Roderick on the Line

◼   ► this episode of Roderick on the line is [TS]

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◼   ► that's Friday August fifth 2016 at the [TS]

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◼   ► against humanity calm / concert [TS]

◼   ► Lowe aye jaan hyper blue my job how's it [TS]

◼   ► going good together [TS]

◼   ► it's early is really it's early you're [TS]

◼   ► on time today man [TS]

◼   ► yeah well yeah turn clocked n just like [TS]

◼   ► every just like every time [TS]

◼   ► right on right on the button yeah [TS]

◼   ► buttons yeah hi I one of those nights [TS]

◼   ► last night were just could not stay [TS]

◼   ► asleep [TS]

◼   ► that's the worst a dryad some kind of [TS]

◼   ► had some kind of dream that there was a [TS]

◼   ► spider i woke up and i had to move on my [TS]

◼   ► pillows around [TS]

◼   ► no no and then I was like I can't go [TS]

◼   ► back to sleep there's a spider in my [TS]

◼   ► pillows course there wasn't [TS]

◼   ► oh I mean not be right not per se [TS]

◼   ► you're right but the dream that I had [TS]

◼   ► about the spider was a dream not [TS]

◼   ► reflective the number spiders that were [TS]

◼   ► in my pillows and then I i I'm doing [TS]

◼   ► admin on now you got up and get admin [TS]

◼   ► right about three or 330 the morning I [TS]

◼   ► was like you know what it's about time I [TS]

◼   ► joined snapchat oh good for you that you [TS]

◼   ► can win as the light comes with the [TS]

◼   ► ghost I have well you know I joined it [TS]

◼   ► and I went through you know I went [TS]

◼   ► through the rigmarole and then I got in [TS]

◼   ► there and I was like what I'm going to [TS]

◼   ► start snapchatting right now I'm not [TS]

◼   ► going to choose my mama choose my avatar [TS]

◼   ► right now four o'clock in the morning [TS]

◼   ► and you're crazy if I ask I've got some [TS]

◼   ► sense and so yeah I woke up this morning [TS]

◼   ► some congratulations from people about [TS]

◼   ► my having joint snapchat which felt good [TS]

◼   ► that felt good little bit @midnight [TS]

◼   ► street just keep lines right just just [TS]

◼   ► keeping the lines right and I I what [TS]

◼   ► else do they do hope [TS]

◼   ► oh I or haha i organized my apps on your [TS]

◼   ► phone [TS]

◼   ► yeah I gotta love doing that got rid of [TS]

◼   ► some I move them around holders folders [TS]

◼   ► folders I didn't you know I folder a few [TS]

◼   ► let's be honest [TS]

◼   ► yeah but you know I was more like this [TS]

◼   ► is the literary page of the apps and [TS]

◼   ► this one is the banking page you know [TS]

◼   ► like that [TS]

◼   ► this one is the one of all the of all [TS]

◼   ► the Astronomy ones me it's like [TS]

◼   ► as in your library yeah that's right so [TS]

◼   ► i did some of that feeling doesn't also [TS]

◼   ► feel good to get rid of one's here's my [TS]

◼   ► test if i'm not sure what this does [TS]

◼   ► i isolated the Sun is a positive ago I [TS]

◼   ► don't really remember what this does [TS]

◼   ► yeah well I went through a phase where I [TS]

◼   ► really believed yeah yeah [TS]

◼   ► do you have one of those five-year [TS]

◼   ► Diaries I'm unfamiliar with him but I [TS]

◼   ► don't maintain one [TS]

◼   ► yeah I've all you know for the last five [TS]

◼   ► years I've had a five-year diary sitting [TS]

◼   ► on top of bookshelf read more every [TS]

◼   ► morning I look at remember tomorrow is [TS]

◼   ► the day I'm gonna start keeping a [TS]

◼   ► five-year diary wouldn't that be a great [TS]

◼   ► thing to have any great thing to have [TS]

◼   ► wouldn't that be great to look back and [TS]

◼   ► say I kept that diary for five years and [TS]

◼   ► here it is a record for everyone haven't [TS]

◼   ► been doing it if I had one for the last [TS]

◼   ► five years boy what a resource it would [TS]

◼   ► be yeah yeah yeah I love for phor like I [TS]

◼   ► just where your head was on a given day [TS]

◼   ► yeah you know what my my mom and dad [TS]

◼   ► kept check registers oh yeah sure but in [TS]

◼   ► between that in your phonebook you know [TS]

◼   ► your phone address book em does remove [TS]

◼   ► those are real documents in the house [TS]

◼   ► yeah I've got check registers from my [TS]

◼   ► folks and back into the seventies and [TS]

◼   ► you can just flip through it's like oh [TS]

◼   ► well here's that here is the actual [TS]

◼   ► entry for the for the check that paid [TS]

◼   ► for the first piano lesson [TS]

◼   ► Wow and it happened on this day you know [TS]

◼   ► it's like really heavy particularly we [TS]

◼   ► know what my folks were like you know [TS]

◼   ► what they were kind of fighting for [TS]

◼   ► custody for a while I mean it's very [TS]

◼   ► interesting to see like how much time [TS]

◼   ► actually spent with them what we were [TS]

◼   ► doing so five-year you know five your [TS]

◼   ► diary to have all this stuff like today [TS]

◼   ► we went to the zoo yesterday we went to [TS]

◼   ► the zoo go to the zoo every day our [TS]

◼   ► lives are totally on changing from day [TS]

◼   ► to day but it's fun to deal with like [TS]

◼   ► say quicken exactly [TS]

◼   ► yeah exactly and so so there was a there [TS]

◼   ► was a little brief period there where I [TS]

◼   ► downloaded a couple of apps that were [TS]

◼   ► like take a picture of yourself everyday [TS]

◼   ► sure it was Adam Lanza gore the got me [TS]

◼   ► thinking about it because he did some [TS]

◼   ► he's insane face channel [TS]

◼   ► was a cult I don't know some he's got 10 [TS]

◼   ► million apps [TS]

◼   ► uh-huh i was one about the animals [TS]

◼   ► before I remember that easy take a [TS]

◼   ► picture and then you can make that into [TS]

◼   ► like an animation that shows your aging [TS]

◼   ► yeah right [TS]

◼   ► yes he was sitting on a park bench sadly [TS]

◼   ► eating a sandwich yeah but he took a [TS]

◼   ► picture of himself each time here i am [TS]

◼   ► sort of you know I'm I mean Adam I'm the [TS]

◼   ► lovable sandwich eating guy that that [TS]

◼   ► and now look at me look at me for a [TS]

◼   ► whole year sad sandwich eating guy every [TS]

◼   ► day I wanted to be that so I downloaded [TS]

◼   ► some of these i took some pictures of [TS]

◼   ► myself every day for like two weeks six [TS]

◼   ► days and then I forgot to keep doing it [TS]

◼   ► and so I deleted all those I'm trying to [TS]

◼   ► there's a ringtone i really want [TS]

◼   ► I've never wanted a ringtone before the [TS]

◼   ► acapella one I could tell when I really [TS]

◼   ► want this will be more than happy to [TS]

◼   ► help you with this i have an appt made [TS]

◼   ► by my friend fucking fascist where you [TS]

◼   ► just you take the take the fall you drop [TS]

◼   ► it on their transition ringtown easy [TS]

◼   ► peasy lemon squeezy [TS]

◼   ► but i wanna i want to edit it oh yeah [TS]

◼   ► you know I don't want you also has an [TS]

◼   ► app for that coefficient love this I [TS]

◼   ► love that there's a map for no we [TS]

◼   ► haven't done super tech support in [TS]

◼   ► awhile [TS]

◼   ► no that's true I you know there's a lot [TS]

◼   ► of things so I want this I want this [TS]

◼   ► thing i downloaded two apps and I spent [TS]

◼   ► I swear to you two hours in itunes just [TS]

◼   ► trying to figure out how to work it now [TS]

◼   ► yeah i think is not a good place to [TS]

◼   ► start anything every time you know used [TS]

◼   ► to be your itunes five choices you go i [TS]

◼   ► might get a little bit like a dream [TS]

◼   ► because you're pretty sure it's like oh [TS]

◼   ► it was my music collection but it wasn't [TS]

◼   ► and you were there but you weren't and [TS]

◼   ► my rents demos with not there and they [TS]

◼   ► should have been [TS]

◼   ► yeah and meanwhile every time i would [TS]

◼   ► try to get a push the button i'd get [TS]

◼   ► into something like this is where I want [TS]

◼   ► to be in my I try to back out of it [TS]

◼   ► good luck tonight have been kind of [TS]

◼   ► backed out of it had to back all the way [TS]

◼   ► to Paraguay and I'm sitting around i [TS]

◼   ► don't speak spanish it's like what how [TS]

◼   ► to make it to Paraguay was way no not [TS]

◼   ► explain oh so I stopped doing that is [TS]

◼   ► don't have the ringtone well i'll be [TS]

◼   ► happy to help you with that I woke up [TS]

◼   ► this morning Merlin to and I had an idea [TS]

◼   ► that one day I would wake up to this [TS]

◼   ► acapella wonderful [TS]

◼   ► acapella music still well there's a lot [TS]

◼   ► in there and you have to tell you you're [TS]

◼   ► getting into here is a very John [TS]

◼   ► Roderick topic i think really does not [TS]

◼   ► run well just because like for myself [TS]

◼   ► like at all [TS]

◼   ► you know I'm not really do anything I [TS]

◼   ► don't have that much stuff to do but sit [TS]

◼   ► there and get just get started a little [TS]

◼   ► bit with the with manscaping my apps and [TS]

◼   ► then you know 45 minutes goes by the [TS]

◼   ► first of all all the games that my [TS]

◼   ► daughter has downloaded are now pushing [TS]

◼   ► everything way off the screen just have [TS]

◼   ► pages and pages of games about cooking [TS]

◼   ► and so I just dropped one on the other [TS]

◼   ► makes a folder called games and then I [TS]

◼   ► drop drop drop drop then I couldn't fix [TS]

◼   ► a photocall games job gonna drop drop [TS]

◼   ► drop drop drop drop drop drop it all [TS]

◼   ► right in there but no but I think [TS]

◼   ► there's something I wish Apple would [TS]

◼   ► help us a little bit with that I mean I [TS]

◼   ► kind of feel like there's two things one [TS]

◼   ► giant wish and a small wish the giant [TS]

◼   ► wishes i wish you would really really [TS]

◼   ► kind it does this with that little [TS]

◼   ► screen to the last but I would really [TS]

◼   ► realize hey dingaling you know you got [TS]

◼   ► 200 apps on there but like here's the [TS]

◼   ► six you use constantly and here is the [TS]

◼   ► 30 you've used in the last month and [TS]

◼   ► automatically you know move dumb stuff [TS]

◼   ► away i don't drive some people crazy but [TS]

◼   ► yeah i would i would like that because I [TS]

◼   ► guess I get sick of moving the stuff [TS]

◼   ► from but it's very i find it very [TS]

◼   ► rewarding try to find a recent ringtone [TS]

◼   ► I've got oh I'm not familiar with the [TS]

◼   ► with the work of the the comedian Patton [TS]

◼   ► Oswalt yes but there's something that I [TS]

◼   ► yell at Mike at several times a day [TS]

◼   ► it's not one of his routine so I made [TS]

◼   ► that into my ringtone here we go of you [TS]

◼   ► doing [TS]

◼   ► no format just got a problem let's see [TS]

◼   ► here what are you doing huh [TS]

◼   ► so I like yelled at my cats are all that [TS]

◼   ► time I tell her she's a hideous monster [TS]

◼   ► and when she moves from one room to [TS]

◼   ► another I say what are you doing [TS]

◼   ► see this is what I want I want our full [TS]

◼   ► of fun [TS]

◼   ► yes I wanted to be full of me and [TS]

◼   ► Johnny's are your device's you should be [TS]

◼   ► having fun with this [TS]

◼   ► you should get you should get turned [TS]

◼   ► crunk and you should get on fleek I [TS]

◼   ► should yes I should these are some of my [TS]

◼   ► squad goals [TS]

◼   ► yes squad pound sign squad goals i [TS]

◼   ► should have all my devices should [TS]

◼   ► represent the inner me [TS]

◼   ► oh god yes write me when I'm fucked up [TS]

◼   ► that's the real me elbow you kidding me [TS]

◼   ► huh and i want it i don't know when [TS]

◼   ► you're in the club John it is getting [TS]

◼   ► hot in here [TS]

◼   ► this is what I want my others want this [TS]

◼   ► television while I want no part of you [TS]

◼   ► want i want to be one of these fun guys [TS]

◼   ► who's opening his garage door remotely [TS]

◼   ► and I want mine with the matter how a [TS]

◼   ► device [TS]

◼   ► yes and I want my phone to go we can we [TS]

◼   ► can we can do whatever I wanted to do [TS]

◼   ► where's my phone that's what my phone [TS]

◼   ► should say where's my phone so I don't [TS]

◼   ► have I have no access to some of these [TS]

◼   ► worlds [TS]

◼   ► yeah and there and I feel I feel like [TS]

◼   ► I'm just life is passing me by [TS]

◼   ► oh my gosh what are we going to college [TS]

◼   ► photo photo photo fear of missing out [TS]

◼   ► the College of the millenniums college [TS]

◼   ► yeah yeah i was sitting I was watching [TS]

◼   ► people catching pokémon's yeah and [TS]

◼   ► wonderful thing about people who are [TS]

◼   ► catching pokemon is that they are very [TS]

◼   ► nice and very happy to tell you what [TS]

◼   ► they're having fun they're having fun in [TS]

◼   ► there and so I you know and I'm a [TS]

◼   ► curious person who so i say which [TS]

◼   ► Pokemon are we catching today and they [TS]

◼   ► say well you know here's some of the [TS]

◼   ► pokemon's that we are waiting to see [TS]

◼   ► Spahn and you know they're saying all of [TS]

◼   ► it while there while they're watching to [TS]

◼   ► see pokemon to all appearances [TS]

◼   ► photographing the sidewalk right so [TS]

◼   ► they're not you know they're kind of got [TS]

◼   ► busy photographing the sidewalk did what [TS]

◼   ► they sort of look up they make a little [TS]

◼   ► bit of eye contact because they're all [TS]

◼   ► very nice people but then they're back [TS]

◼   ► to the the the game [TS]

◼   ► yeah I still don't understand it and I [TS]

◼   ► and I'm curious about it I don't know [TS]

◼   ► what minecraft is like I'm I'm so i'll [TS]

◼   ► explain my minecraft is is explainable [TS]

◼   ► in very and very cool to try to swing [TS]

◼   ► the tide [TS]

◼   ► I gotta fly I have not and will not play [TS]

◼   ► hooky man's game but here's what I'll [TS]

◼   ► give your line huh [TS]

◼   ► when you catch another EV try that one [TS]

◼   ► EV yeah but you get another EV are v's [TS]

◼   ► fairly common thats pokeyman yeah [TS]

◼   ► there's pokeyman called ed and I think [TS]

◼   ► there's a lot of those and people you [TS]

◼   ► gotta catch em all right here with my [TS]

◼   ► reasons I won't do it but you know III [TS]

◼   ► can have two minds about this is [TS]

◼   ► absolutely not for me but I I'm very [TS]

◼   ► happy that people are having fun with it [TS]

◼   ► and I'm going to get into the whole [TS]

◼   ► recruiting outside shut up Kelly having [TS]

◼   ► your line don't you [TS]

◼   ► pokemon is that your mom no excuse me [TS]

◼   ► out no my daughter has you know she [TS]

◼   ► likes the polka bands but she and she's [TS]

◼   ► expressed an interest in it but i have [TS]

◼   ► been mostly nude about it because that's [TS]

◼   ► not a franchise that I want to get into [TS]

◼   ► I was not right because our did they [TS]

◼   ► support David Duke or something like [TS]

◼   ► what's so bad about pokemon listen [TS]

◼   ► people love me [TS]

◼   ► yeah that stuff I do is tremendous [TS]

◼   ► everyone says I've been very successful [TS]

◼   ► know and uh and you know i have to look [TS]

◼   ► into that [TS]

◼   ► so we know it's just it's just you know [TS]

◼   ► I don't know she's just she really [TS]

◼   ► expressed an interest will get into it [TS]

◼   ► but you know it's my big question why is [TS]

◼   ► she / downloading 25,000 games where you [TS]

◼   ► pay extra money to put a cherry on top [TS]

◼   ► of an ice cream cone to your phone [TS]

◼   ► why does she not have a room god this is [TS]

◼   ► not a particular interesting answer i'm [TS]

◼   ► happy to share with you first of all we [TS]

◼   ► have something called family sharing [TS]

◼   ► which means that once one of us has [TS]

◼   ► gotten for free or bought a nap it's [TS]

◼   ► accessible to the others and she's using [TS]

◼   ► one of my devices which is going to get [TS]

◼   ► this this free game I said sure and so [TS]

◼   ► point number two we either either x [TS]

◼   ► games for money or we get free games and [TS]

◼   ► we we don't do in app purchases like we [TS]

◼   ► don't we don't buy magic coins and stuff [TS]

◼   ► we don't buy magic coins now now now I [TS]

◼   ► mean when she gets to the point where [TS]

◼   ► she has an allowance that can be a dumb [TS]

◼   ► thing we argue about but now she wants [TS]

◼   ► the cooking games are fun you know you [TS]

◼   ► are you have to cook things you get you [TS]

◼   ► go on you know make some teriyaki or [TS]

◼   ► something no part of that is fun it's [TS]

◼   ► fun for a little kid it's it's it's sort [TS]

◼   ► of like plan threes remember that [TS]

◼   ► diabolical game we hate it's not like [TS]

◼   ► that we like you you know these little [TS]

◼   ► motions i still play three i played [TS]

◼   ► three yesterday at my feeling about [TS]

◼   ► three was i I went through a long period [TS]

◼   ► where I didn't play threes [TS]

◼   ► mhm i have not gotten any better I still [TS]

◼   ► max out at around nine thousand and I [TS]

◼   ► was like thousands and thousands of [TS]

◼   ► games and I can't get past like 9,000 [TS]

◼   ► it's very hard to get better and I have [TS]

◼   ► this weird sense that I used to be [TS]

◼   ► better at it than I am I don't do you [TS]

◼   ► remember we used to talk about threes on [TS]

◼   ► our program in the early days and i [TS]

◼   ► remember having some high score you have [TS]

◼   ► you your score was much how you're [TS]

◼   ► definitely in the in the five digits I [TS]

◼   ► think you were in the high five digits [TS]

◼   ► well I i remember being able to you know [TS]

◼   ► to to accomplish amazing feats with in [TS]

◼   ► threes and now i can no longer [TS]

◼   ► accomplish amazing feats it feels like [TS]

◼   ► Three's has been feels like the the [TS]

◼   ► algorithm has changed we have to change [TS]

◼   ► the algorithm really read the encryption [TS]

◼   ► I feel like they rewrote the encryption [TS]

◼   ► and you know every time you're about to [TS]

◼   ► create an amazing feat they just give [TS]

◼   ► you seven red ones they give you blue on [TS]

◼   ► the wrong side and you're like were when [TS]

◼   ► you're dead [TS]

◼   ► Asher we were we visited with the [TS]

◼   ► developer that came and he told us that [TS]

◼   ► basically everything we think about that [TS]

◼   ► game is true it is trying to fuck with [TS]

◼   ► you on purpose that's why I guess that's [TS]

◼   ► what makes it a game instead of a mom [TS]

◼   ► yeah yeah he seem to not understand his [TS]

◼   ► own game [TS]

◼   ► yeah or how it worked yeah I'm that's [TS]

◼   ► essential to being a developer I think [TS]

◼   ► you just need to know how to get on the [TS]

◼   ► app store up that was that was that was [TS]

◼   ► a fun time didn't know I mean you know [TS]

◼   ► you go through this at some point when [TS]

◼   ► you when you give up on the things that [TS]

◼   ► you're good about right now and you know [TS]

◼   ► your kid will want to do things with [TS]

◼   ► with games and stuff like that and and [TS]

◼   ► those are those are pretty harmless [TS]

◼   ► minecraft is amazing the things i want [TS]

◼   ► to talk about Minecraft it's basically [TS]

◼   ► just is basically imagine like a video [TS]

◼   ► game version of Legos with unlimited [TS]

◼   ► legos first rule of Minecraft don't know [TS]

◼   ► about Minecraft to me [TS]

◼   ► mmm me all along hmm i was in her house [TS]

◼   ► yesterday and there was a teen there who [TS]

◼   ► nobody was is preteen but a very [TS]

◼   ► advanced preteen he was like some [TS]

◼   ► postgraduate between yeah that's right [TS]

◼   ► he's right he's right there between he [TS]

◼   ► has to decide whether he's gonna weather [TS]

◼   ► is really going to go and do a [TS]

◼   ► dissertation or whether he's just going [TS]

◼   ► to become a carpeted tough time for kid [TS]

◼   ► but he was blues pokemon meaning and his [TS]

◼   ► mother express a lot of apprehension [TS]

◼   ► about Pokemon [TS]

◼   ► not the pokemon itself was bad but [TS]

◼   ► augmented reality she did not like [TS]

◼   ► augmented reality and I said well you [TS]

◼   ► know in a fucking couple years wrong [TS]

◼   ► maybe it's gonna be the google glass and [TS]

◼   ► she said haha google glass failed and i [TS]

◼   ► have this sudden awareness that there [TS]

◼   ► are many many millions of people who [TS]

◼   ► think that Google glass failed [TS]

◼   ► therefore we will never have to deal [TS]

◼   ► with the idea what we're never going to [TS]

◼   ► have heads-up displays or there's never [TS]

◼   ► going to be an experience very you're [TS]

◼   ► very on point with this I happen to [TS]

◼   ► totally agree with you [TS]

◼   ► yes very people's idea about this stuff [TS]

◼   ► like so many things because very [TS]

◼   ► short-sighted based on like what's [TS]

◼   ► available right now [TS]

◼   ► yeah right like what failed i'm like [TS]

◼   ► yeah well because it was because they [TS]

◼   ► were it was a beta asking and it looked [TS]

◼   ► dumb like this place with 17 wings fell [TS]

◼   ► off a cliff why we're gonna bother [TS]

◼   ► fighting over who would even joke like I [TS]

◼   ► said it's all set up and playing piano [TS]

◼   ► music [TS]

◼   ► exactly today look at the airplanes of [TS]

◼   ► 1907 and then will you know let's talk [TS]

◼   ► to the airplanes of 1925 you know there [TS]

◼   ► were there were a lot of hilarious [TS]

◼   ► airplanes and now we're still using them [TS]

◼   ► anyway I was saying listen you know life [TS]

◼   ► is going to be like a mario brothers she [TS]

◼   ► was like no and I said yeah here's your [TS]

◼   ► augmented reality you walk out the door [TS]

◼   ► and pokemon is it is is is introducing [TS]

◼   ► this now to everybody [TS]

◼   ► people will do this so you as a company [TS]

◼   ► can do it too [TS]

◼   ► you're walking down the street and here [TS]

◼   ► here's a little thing that's like if you [TS]

◼   ► grab the coin you get a free ice cream [TS]

◼   ► climate Donald's bling [TS]

◼   ► no that's augmentation already like whoa [TS]

◼   ► you know catch em all and released in [TS]

◼   ► here running down the street catching [TS]

◼   ► coins on your way to the nearest [TS]

◼   ► mcdonalds where those coins will if you [TS]

◼   ► catch enough of them will add up to a [TS]

◼   ► cheeseburger and you know and it's just [TS]

◼   ► going to be that's going to be [TS]

◼   ► everywhere unless it and you'll be able [TS]

◼   ► to obviously turn it off because I'm [TS]

◼   ► gonna be busy walking around looking at [TS]

◼   ► your phone my augmented reality is going [TS]

◼   ► to me all of the places you can access [TS]

◼   ► Seattle's underground sewer Network [TS]

◼   ► right all the manhole covers that are [TS]

◼   ► unlocked [TS]

◼   ► but these little mcdonald coins are [TS]

◼   ► gonna be popping up and people are going [TS]

◼   ► to be saying that everybody's gonna have [TS]

◼   ► a little lightbulb over their head to [TS]

◼   ► like elucidating their marriage status [TS]

◼   ► oh IC acting before I used to be a [TS]

◼   ► reality is going to be very augmented [TS]

◼   ► they're not very long [TS]

◼   ► yeah and this time this mom that i was [TS]

◼   ► talking to was younger than me but she [TS]

◼   ► did not want anything to do with it [TS]

◼   ► yeah i mean hi [TS]

◼   ► that's right my bad i'm talking about [TS]

◼   ► this a lot lately and it because you [TS]

◼   ► know i think it's an important thing to [TS]

◼   ► everyone's talking about it this one [TS]

◼   ► other programs with other people [TS]

◼   ► yeah so then that's too well here's I [TS]

◼   ► mean you're there are several parts to [TS]

◼   ► this i mean one of the things is that [TS]

◼   ► what I think as you get older it's [TS]

◼   ► harder and harder not to suffer from [TS]

◼   ► which is to develop these heuristics for [TS]

◼   ► the things that you're going to dismiss [TS]

◼   ► because you either at first you don't [TS]

◼   ► understand them they seem silly or they [TS]

◼   ► seem dangerous and you never bothered to [TS]

◼   ► learn much more than the thing that they [TS]

◼   ► showed on the news for two minutes and [TS]

◼   ► that's that's not any way to grow as a [TS]

◼   ► person because the stuff that makes a [TS]

◼   ► thing a thing you may not really [TS]

◼   ► understand it until you start doing it [TS]

◼   ► like if you describe rock music to [TS]

◼   ► people it wouldn't sound all that [TS]

◼   ► interesting you can get help to go to a [TS]

◼   ► concert there's lots of stuff like that [TS]

◼   ► the other thing is that looks like the [TS]

◼   ► word curious which you use all the time [TS]

◼   ► and i never use right and when you say [TS]

◼   ► heuristics and each time I think that's [TS]

◼   ► what I'd like to use also hermeneutics [TS]

◼   ► of extra using that more hermeneutics [TS]

◼   ► medics I you know and I think to myself [TS]

◼   ► I tried as your as you continue to talk [TS]

◼   ► I kind of try on the word heuristics for [TS]

◼   ► myself [TS]

◼   ► yeah like sort of the used to tell you [TS]

◼   ► but instead i say increasingly lazy [TS]

◼   ► shortcut like the people wanted really [TS]

◼   ► lazy shortcut where they go trap I don't [TS]

◼   ► think about that anymore like chunky [TS]

◼   ► right there at the car and not for me [TS]

◼   ► but here's the other thing about parents [TS]

◼   ► and other ding-a-lings is that you know [TS]

◼   ► i can tell you that anything [TS]

◼   ► my kid is a dick about with screens is [TS]

◼   ► nobody's fault but my own because always [TS]

◼   ► follow mine one order to do what to do [TS]

◼   ► who but someone what is that I'm well [TS]

◼   ► aware [TS]

◼   ► what do you want a while because if I [TS]

◼   ► decide I kind of a competent nobody's [TS]

◼   ► fault mine right yeah don't have to 10 [TS]

◼   ► it's a really great [TS]

◼   ► Led Zeppelin's arm that that should have [TS]

◼   ► been on a album [TS]

◼   ► look I know that song yeah but it wasn't [TS]

◼   ► an element was just on just the thing [TS]

◼   ► just to say that we tend to as we know [TS]

◼   ► we're being parents we tend to go like [TS]

◼   ► we know stuff that kids don't know stuff [TS]

◼   ► and so they are little little paws into [TS]

◼   ► which we pour wisdom and information and [TS]

◼   ► experience it's like this that's [TS]

◼   ► bullshit you know I mean like I guess [TS]

◼   ► what I'm saying is like if your if your [TS]

◼   ► kid is a dick with the iphone it's [TS]

◼   ► because you let them become a dick with [TS]

◼   ► the iphone it's not the iphones fault [TS]

◼   ► it's your old I'm a dick with the iphone [TS]

◼   ► and I wasn't my phone it's incredibly [TS]

◼   ► hypocritical so we're like okay listen [TS]

◼   ► we let you watch gilmore girls for six [TS]

◼   ► hours this morning and now you know [TS]

◼   ► you're cranky so you don't get a screen [TS]

◼   ► for a while but mom and I are going to [TS]

◼   ► sit here and look at our ipads because [TS]

◼   ► energy because zero your Vaz I i had a [TS]

◼   ► real problem the other day I I i was in [TS]

◼   ► a parade a nice and it was a big big big [TS]

◼   ► parade and and either then and the my [TS]

◼   ► job in the parade was to ride in the [TS]

◼   ► back of in 1976 eldorado convertible [TS]

◼   ► color root beer brown and wave their [TS]

◼   ► wearing a sash and I thought that this [TS]

◼   ► would be fun for my daughter also [TS]

◼   ► because last year when i was running for [TS]

◼   ► office we were in several parades where [TS]

◼   ► we walked the length of the parade [TS]

◼   ► waving at people and waving signs with [TS]

◼   ► my name on it and so you know she [TS]

◼   ► started to think that being in parades [TS]

◼   ► was normal and that was one of the [TS]

◼   ► things that we did with Daddy right with [TS]

◼   ► mom I you go to the swimming pool with [TS]

◼   ► that you go marching parade [TS]

◼   ► and wave to 50,000 people and so this is [TS]

◼   ► the business Seattle's big parade the [TS]

◼   ► Seafarer parade is the big one the [TS]

◼   ► torchlight parade and it's not it's not [TS]

◼   ► a torchlight parade that ends at a rally [TS]

◼   ► or there's no crystal knocked like [TS]

◼   ► experience interest whether just a a [TS]

◼   ► healthy number of two bizarre weather [TS]

◼   ► like a lot of to be a lot of tubes there [TS]

◼   ► were wrong all wrong [TS]

◼   ► roll fire department the bagpipe bands [TS]

◼   ► boy there were I mean you know a lot of [TS]

◼   ► floats featuring princesses there was [TS]

◼   ► the apple-blossom princess and there was [TS]

◼   ► the that was the under the sea princess [TS]

◼   ► and there was that all the princesses [TS]

◼   ► were there there there the Seafair [TS]

◼   ► pirates in a in a in an enormous ship [TS]

◼   ► that has a cannon a yeah there's a lot [TS]

◼   ► going on there was the US Army was the [TS]

◼   ► US Navy Band anyways so we just sounds [TS]

◼   ► like a pretty big production the big [TS]

◼   ► production we were in we were in this [TS]

◼   ► Cadillac and and that you know the [TS]

◼   ► driver the Cadillac was doing the s [TS]

◼   ► turns because because that's the only [TS]

◼   ► thing that we didn't have any other and [TS]

◼   ► like a like an entitled down fixie uh [TS]

◼   ► yeah except he's doing he said he was [TS]

◼   ► very smooth guy we got this Cadillac [TS]

◼   ► from a local car museum he knew what he [TS]

◼   ► was doing and it had been a doubt you [TS]

◼   ► forget what horrid car horns were like [TS]

◼   ► in the nineteen seventies he would lay [TS]

◼   ► on this horn and it was pick up it was [TS]

◼   ► like a ship it was like a ferry boat [TS]

◼   ► coming into port [TS]

◼   ► yeah you know haha like totally great [TS]

◼   ► horn anyway this was our job drive the [TS]

◼   ► length of the city of two miles an hour [TS]

◼   ► waving wearing a sash and so I brought [TS]

◼   ► my little girl and she was totally [TS]

◼   ► amazing for the entire thing until after [TS]

◼   ► we've been doing it for four hours and [TS]

◼   ► there's no end in sight she finally was [TS]

◼   ► like she just had that experience of [TS]

◼   ► like okay 100,000 people I've lived a [TS]

◼   ► hundred thousand people and now a little [TS]

◼   ► freaked out [TS]

◼   ► is that where is the end and I'm like [TS]

◼   ► yeah still little ways to go and she was [TS]

◼   ► like I now want to hide and she went [TS]

◼   ► down into the footwell oh poor thing [TS]

◼   ► and I was like I'm not sure I'm not sure [TS]

◼   ► which point I was but I became a bad [TS]

◼   ► father here because we only seem to be [TS]

◼   ► doing fine [TS]

◼   ► yeah this wasn't this is intense and and [TS]

◼   ► and frankly the the part that I became a [TS]

◼   ► bad father was I was like I did what my [TS]

◼   ► dad would have done which is I said get [TS]

◼   ► your ass back up here what are you doing [TS]

◼   ► we got we got parading to do here don't [TS]

◼   ► leave daddy up here just waving by [TS]

◼   ► himself and she was death [TS]

◼   ► it's making me look that she was down [TS]

◼   ► there you know with her with her little [TS]

◼   ► bunny rabbit sucking your thumb and the [TS]

◼   ► wheel well and I was like god damn it [TS]

◼   ► get up here [TS]

◼   ► people want well you know people pay [TS]

◼   ► people paid not no money to watch this [TS]

◼   ► come up here and help daddy huh and so [TS]

◼   ► then I was up there waving you know [TS]

◼   ► thank you [TS]

◼   ► after happy parade last thing you want [TS]

◼   ► to see when you go to operators is just [TS]

◼   ► 2 miles and miles of a child being [TS]

◼   ► admonished well and also yeah that's [TS]

◼   ► right you can't you can't I can't I [TS]

◼   ► couldn't actually beyond to make sure [TS]

◼   ► these 360 can be like Apes you know and [TS]

◼   ► I kind of was like a up here but where [TS]

◼   ► she was like no way and I thought you [TS]

◼   ► might [TS]

◼   ► this was a I don't think maybe a unique [TS]

◼   ► parenting problem but certainly there's [TS]

◼   ► not a lot of role models like I can't [TS]

◼   ► call a hotline [TS]

◼   ► ok let's say what do you guys do when [TS]

◼   ► your daughter doesn't want to to fulfill [TS]

◼   ► the entire parade at five years old so I [TS]

◼   ► was that you know so yeah I had monitor [TS]

◼   ► a little bit and then afterwards I was [TS]

◼   ► sorry but then I was like but also you [TS]

◼   ► know you don't want to be a quitter but [TS]

◼   ► also I understand that you're retired [TS]

◼   ► and that you didn't quite know what you [TS]

◼   ► were getting into [TS]

◼   ► yeah but also look daddy's got weird [TS]

◼   ► things that he had to do sometimes raids [TS]

◼   ► and other events where he may drag you [TS]

◼   ► up onstage because he wants you to [TS]

◼   ► because that just as my dad used to [TS]

◼   ► leave me sitting in Alaska bars for two [TS]

◼   ► hours well he did something [TS]

◼   ► uh-huh [TS]

◼   ► and he and he justified it to himself by [TS]

◼   ► feeling like it was teaching me how to [TS]

◼   ► sit in a bar i guess it was teaching me [TS]

◼   ► how to meet meet adults and keep them [TS]

◼   ► from stealing me as well there's a lot [TS]

◼   ► to that I'm not saying I agree with this [TS]

◼   ► but there was a time when the ability to [TS]

◼   ► sit quietly in a bar with something that [TS]

◼   ► was expected to do I mean it'sit's [TS]

◼   ► something about learning learning [TS]

◼   ► restraint some control right well except [TS]

◼   ► you know when he would come back two [TS]

◼   ► hours later you know I'd be sitting on [TS]

◼   ► the bar they be feeding me whipped cream [TS]

◼   ► out of a out of shot glasses it I'd be [TS]

◼   ► you know I'd be dancing regaling me with [TS]

◼   ► stories like there was I didn't set the [TS]

◼   ► mirror Lee and and hope that the big man [TS]

◼   ► in the wolf skin coats would leave me [TS]

◼   ► alone I was like is that will skim coat [TS]

◼   ► did I ever tell you about the time I saw [TS]

◼   ► wolf would you buy me a shot glass full [TS]

◼   ► of whipped cream and now a timely [TS]

◼   ► message about concert against humanity [TS]

◼   ► cards against humanity is coming out [TS]

◼   ► typically they've got a giant theater [TS]

◼   ► and some shit to give away it's August [TS]

◼   ► in that ATM there's not much else to say [TS]

◼   ► so I your seats today [TS]

◼   ► hey it's the second show like this that [TS]

◼   ► cards has gone and done [TS]

◼   ► they promised lots of comedy they [TS]

◼   ► promised lots of fun and if they don't [TS]

◼   ► sell Baelfire everyone no fire everyone [TS]

◼   ► like you do your fire to your mom your [TS]

◼   ► dad they're all fired you get thinks the [TS]

◼   ► vehicle your desk and I retire and [TS]

◼   ► you're still fired [TS]

◼   ► jonathan coulton a spire Paul and store [TS]

◼   ► their post-fire furniture look eugene [TS]

◼   ► mirman fire fire the entire cards office [TS]

◼   ► they're all fire from your at theatre [TS]

◼   ► step on fire everyone attending jen guy [TS]

◼   ► fired by your uber driver fire [TS]

◼   ► you're welcome tales which she fired to [TS]

◼   ► the cast of Hamilton all the Queen's [TS]

◼   ► corgis iron fire five [TS]

◼   ► the moons of jupiter our fire medic [TS]

◼   ► impose how the year the letter r taylor [TS]

◼   ► swift to get fired fired five [TS]

◼   ► the buyer to give take your seats and [TS]

◼   ► kneel before your master [TS]

◼   ► we hope this show does not become a huge [TS]

◼   ► goddamn disaster seats are moving [TS]

◼   ► pretty well but they could move much [TS]

◼   ► faster by your seat today [TS]

◼   ► you want to miss this show so get your [TS]

◼   ► tickets quick because if you miss it [TS]

◼   ► you'll feel like the biggest black is [TS]

◼   ► my dad won't be back for a while we [TS]

◼   ► could probably get one more round of [TS]

◼   ► whipped cream so I seriously that was my [TS]

◼   ► that was my gag i would get a shot glass [TS]

◼   ► i would order a shot glass of whipped [TS]

◼   ► cream bartenders love it hilarious money [TS]

◼   ► that's pretty easy drink it's not like a [TS]

◼   ► mojito right you know and and so then [TS]

◼   ► I'd be sitting at the bar and I'd be all [TS]

◼   ► hard-bitten high shot glass in front of [TS]

◼   ► me today the bar tenants would come back [TS]

◼   ► and there'd be like another round hit me [TS]

◼   ► and we'd laugh I'm getting us it's ready [TS]

◼   ► whip right there shit out of the camp [TS]

◼   ► yeah oh and then you know it's like it's [TS]

◼   ► like when you put peanut butter in a [TS]

◼   ► calm way into a dog [TS]

◼   ► I you know I'm sitting there trying to [TS]

◼   ► trying to get the last bit of whipped [TS]

◼   ► cream on the bottom of the shot glass [TS]

◼   ► but you know you can't quite get in [TS]

◼   ► there huh [TS]

◼   ► so close laughs all right i would pay i [TS]

◼   ► would pay six hundred dollars to watch a [TS]

◼   ► supercut of all the times that I did [TS]

◼   ► that as a child I'd especially like to [TS]

◼   ► see the dancing [TS]

◼   ► well you know i'll start dancing no I've [TS]

◼   ► seen no no i mean i've seen adult genre [TS]

◼   ► can bust out a dance with very little [TS]

◼   ► provocation [TS]

◼   ► I'm just seeing the the young you the [TS]

◼   ► mascot of the bar yet with is a high on [TS]

◼   ► whipped cream do a little jig and enjoy [TS]

◼   ► that yeah you had that it sounds you [TS]

◼   ► know sometimes there are aspects of my [TS]

◼   ► childhood that sound like what like a [TS]

◼   ► Western where it's all happening in a in [TS]

◼   ► the in like a saloon but that's actually [TS]

◼   ► what happened and the way that I had in [TS]

◼   ► many cases that way I learned to dance [TS]

◼   ► my first dance instruction came from a [TS]

◼   ► woman in a Alaska bar where I was [TS]

◼   ► sitting where I had been deposited and [TS]

◼   ► she was uh it's not looking i mean i [TS]

◼   ► don't know i can't say for sure but I [TS]

◼   ► think now it retro actively that she was [TS]

◼   ► a working like sure she was probably at [TS]

◼   ► least a barfly she was certainly that [TS]

◼   ► but i think she was also issues she was [TS]

◼   ► like this this is [TS]

◼   ► tough parlance these days she was she [TS]

◼   ► was a professional it was alaska right [TS]

◼   ► so he's a semi-professional yeah [TS]

◼   ► everybody was wearing a wolf skin coat [TS]

◼   ► and she was you know she was nicely [TS]

◼   ► tired and there was some music playing [TS]

◼   ► and she and I'm sitting there with my [TS]

◼   ► whipped cream and she said do you want [TS]

◼   ► to dance [TS]

◼   ► yeah and i said i don't know how to [TS]

◼   ► dance and she said Lt Shadow Dance I'm [TS]

◼   ► like that was a little bit older now I [TS]

◼   ► was probably 10 and i don't i didn't i [TS]

◼   ► didn't say no or I didn't know how to [TS]

◼   ► say no I don't think I wanted to say no [TS]

◼   ► and she took me out on the dance floor [TS]

◼   ► and taught me how to dance huh that's [TS]

◼   ► kind of my taught me how to dance pretty [TS]

◼   ► well she gave me like the the top six to [TS]

◼   ► eight moves and she said listen you [TS]

◼   ► gotta you know i'm leaving you right now [TS]

◼   ► but you've got to learn to lead you've [TS]

◼   ► got to be the you know the expectation [TS]

◼   ► is that you're going to lead so then she [TS]

◼   ► had me lead for a while I stepped on [TS]

◼   ► your toes and she said one of the things [TS]

◼   ► you can't do this step on the other [TS]

◼   ► person's toes and when i was ten years [TS]

◼   ► old so I wasn't you know I was a little [TS]

◼   ► kid I was big enough that we could we [TS]

◼   ► could approximate dancing inside it had [TS]

◼   ► it stuck with me even now when I dance I [TS]

◼   ► have this you know I there there's this [TS]

◼   ► little connection this element to that [TS]

◼   ► at first time I think um I feel like [TS]

◼   ► most of what I know that here's my hands [TS]

◼   ► make life hack for this here's what I [TS]

◼   ► know about dancing i'm not a big dancer [TS]

◼   ► i'm not a big public answer you rock out [TS]

◼   ► shell rock out but here's what I know if [TS]

◼   ► you're not moving your but you're not [TS]

◼   ► really dancing and this this is that's [TS]

◼   ► the rookie mistake is a lot of people [TS]

◼   ► think you can just do a little kooky [TS]

◼   ► thing with your arms [TS]

◼   ► yeah that'll work but like to really not [TS]

◼   ► just to look like you're dancing but to [TS]

◼   ► feel like you're dancing your ass should [TS]

◼   ► be emotion gonna move your butt if you [TS]

◼   ► move your I mean it sounds really [TS]

◼   ► obvious but if you look at people who [TS]

◼   ► are dancing awkwardly because they [TS]

◼   ► haven't found the button moved it all [TS]

◼   ► right they're moving their needs are [TS]

◼   ► moving they think it's like you know [TS]

◼   ► sort of like when you think about your [TS]

◼   ► hair [TS]

◼   ► people think about come in the front of [TS]

◼   ► their hair but not [TS]

◼   ► the back the thing is it's the junk in [TS]

◼   ► the trunk that's really making the fuck [TS]

◼   ► I just made that up [TS]

◼   ► I look at me that up i want yeah that's [TS]

◼   ► the thing is like if you want to improve [TS]

◼   ► your dancing you know in your repose at [TS]

◼   ► home [TS]

◼   ► well work on moving about a little bit [TS]

◼   ► well this is one thing that a lot of [TS]

◼   ► people don't know [TS]

◼   ► also moving your butt right that's on [TS]

◼   ► the that's right at the top of the list [TS]

◼   ► but here's what you dance to you do not [TS]

◼   ► dance to the guitar you do not dance to [TS]

◼   ► the vocals you do not even really dance [TS]

◼   ► to the drums came to the base to the [TS]

◼   ► base and if you look at the group of [TS]

◼   ► people dancing and your land you [TS]

◼   ► actually listen to the music you will [TS]

◼   ► see that they are the ones that are [TS]

◼   ► moving correctly are moving to the base [TS]

◼   ► that's a really good point a lot of that [TS]

◼   ► I don't want to make this all about the [TS]

◼   ► dudes right but you know a lot of the [TS]

◼   ► dudes they're actually they're literally [TS]

◼   ► playing air guitar sometimes don't do [TS]

◼   ► that don't do that that's clearly having [TS]

◼   ► fun you know [TS]

◼   ► no houkago matata just get in there have [TS]

◼   ► fun with it but you so basically is what [TS]

◼   ► you're saying you gotta move your butt [TS]

◼   ► to the base [TS]

◼   ► mm and you know you know them and [TS]

◼   ► ninety-nine percent of the people are [TS]

◼   ► completely unconscious of it and I think [TS]

◼   ► about ninety percent of people in the [TS]

◼   ► world couldn't pick the base out of of a [TS]

◼   ► musical composition for the bases the [TS]

◼   ► part that makes you want to dance [TS]

◼   ► that's right that's what that's the [TS]

◼   ► whole job of the base and that's why the [TS]

◼   ► base is so important and that's why when [TS]

◼   ► you're when you're starting out playing [TS]

◼   ► rock music when you're a teenage kid [TS]

◼   ► you're just like why would i play the [TS]

◼   ► bass the bass got no the base isn't [TS]

◼   ► flashy I want to be the flashy guy [TS]

◼   ► that's like maybe that's why everybody [TS]

◼   ► wants to be a guitar plant yeah but that [TS]

◼   ► along the way you realize oh the whole [TS]

◼   ► thing is the whole thing is just sitting [TS]

◼   ► on top of the base and without it that I [TS]

◼   ► mean the bases the thing that is [TS]

◼   ► motivating the whole whole song and then [TS]

◼   ► you start watching like what people are [TS]

◼   ► doing with their bodies like oh my god [TS]

◼   ► the bases and in control huh [TS]

◼   ► and the bass players are like and that [TS]

◼   ► you know and that's why bass players are [TS]

◼   ► creeps because they know the power [TS]

◼   ► yeah they're like moving people's butts [TS]

◼   ► and assistants and galleys you know the [TS]

◼   ► rest mutants Rasputin's like I'm not I [TS]

◼   ► don't need you know I don't need to make [TS]

◼   ► a big well they're kind of not rescue [TS]

◼   ► teams in that sense but they're like I [TS]

◼   ► I'm my historical recipes but they play [TS]

◼   ► by their own rules they play by their [TS]

◼   ► own rules right they smell like people [TS]

◼   ► in a wolf skin coat and boots boo-boo [TS]

◼   ► and that's what you're you know that [TS]

◼   ► sounds a little sign fealty to think [TS]

◼   ► about when you watch seinfeld is dancing [TS]

◼   ► what are you moving your butt to get not [TS]

◼   ► to Jerry pointing with the thumbs up [TS]

◼   ► buddy to do [TS]

◼   ► boom I I feel like there's another there [TS]

◼   ► one other thing about dancing which is [TS]

◼   ► the the the two and four right not the [TS]

◼   ► 13 m 2 and four you move to the to look [TS]

◼   ► for right unless you're staring Copelan [TS]

◼   ► but you know that's the other thing is [TS]

◼   ► people dance to the beat of his own drum [TS]

◼   ► that's right [TS]

◼   ► yes i know i agree with you and you see [TS]

◼   ► this again with the sorry why people use [TS]

◼   ► with the clapping he was with the [TS]

◼   ► clapping on the one you don't know about [TS]

◼   ► mhm don't clap on the one unless you [TS]

◼   ► really know what you're doing I think [TS]

◼   ► what you know if you're stevie wonder [TS]

◼   ► you know the here's the thing [TS]

◼   ► it sounds to me like there's an [TS]

◼   ► extension course waiting to happen right [TS]

◼   ► here which is which is midway at [TS]

◼   ► whatever your you know community college [TS]

◼   ► or something you should do a course on [TS]

◼   ► helping people understand what dancing [TS]

◼   ► isn't how to do it [TS]

◼   ► things things have been lost they do [TS]

◼   ► they truly have like the accordion has [TS]

◼   ► been lost [TS]

◼   ► yeah yeah they're very few people that [TS]

◼   ► learn the accordion now and the end most [TS]

◼   ► of them are doing it somewhat [TS]

◼   ► hilariously well and also I think [TS]

◼   ► speaking as someone who is forced to [TS]

◼   ► learn accordion I think according to [TS]

◼   ► something you for someone to learn [TS]

◼   ► movement there are many people who were [TS]

◼   ► like hey mom can I got accordion but in [TS]

◼   ► ninety dollars also just in fairness [TS]

◼   ► John is also just not as much exposure [TS]

◼   ► to accordance anymore that we step [TS]

◼   ► according to everywhere we were allowing [TS]

◼   ► with accordions in the 90s audience all [TS]

◼   ► the way down in the 1950s lot of people [TS]

◼   ► learn the accordion about out of their [TS]

◼   ► own at avidity who because they said [TS]

◼   ► this is a great way to entertain the [TS]

◼   ► parties that's true in 1920 everybody [TS]

◼   ► played the piano you couldn't go to a [TS]

◼   ► party in according to be on your chest [TS]

◼   ► exactly now all that stuff is that has [TS]

◼   ► been lost a time like tears in rain [TS]

◼   ► and one thing that has been lost I'll [TS]

◼   ► tell you as somebody who occasionally [TS]

◼   ► will be inspired and we'll grab a [TS]

◼   ► partner and say dance with me and dance [TS]

◼   ► around they are almost always like [TS]

◼   ► excited and thrilled like oh my god [TS]

◼   ► someone standing were dancing [TS]

◼   ► yes I want to be that I want to do that [TS]

◼   ► dance here you know what I'm talking [TS]

◼   ► about like holding one another dancing [TS]

◼   ► not standing apart from one another and [TS]

◼   ► making choo-choo arms and she talked [TS]

◼   ► about grown-up dancing I'm talking about [TS]

◼   ► like i am going to now dance with you [TS]

◼   ► and spin you around and we're gonna [TS]

◼   ► we're going to dance properly but even [TS]

◼   ► in the course of my own lifetime the [TS]

◼   ► number of people who know what that [TS]

◼   ► means has declined [TS]

◼   ► yeah now so when I was 14 I could I [TS]

◼   ► could grab ahold of somebody that I [TS]

◼   ► didn't know you know you wanna dance yes [TS]

◼   ► and then you are holding them and [TS]

◼   ► dancing when I was high but I think [TS]

◼   ► there's a high bar [TS]

◼   ► I mean like singing I think people used [TS]

◼   ► to just randomly this could be because i [TS]

◼   ► enjoy musicals but I feel like people [TS]

◼   ► used to somewhat more randomly sing and [TS]

◼   ► dance more people dance now as I hope [TS]

◼   ► not me where I mean more than an element [TS]

◼   ► of that but I don't think dancing is [TS]

◼   ► part of what we do i think singing is so [TS]

◼   ► much a part of what we do seems to be a [TS]

◼   ► think people just did they did it [TS]

◼   ► yes well I'm often and this is the life [TS]

◼   ► back here a lot of times you'll be [TS]

◼   ► somewhere like on a cliff or say you [TS]

◼   ► know in the in the surf or in the forest [TS]

◼   ► and you think i would like to ask this [TS]

◼   ► person to dance [TS]

◼   ► who there's no big band here there's no [TS]

◼   ► dance [TS]

◼   ► this is not this is not what other [TS]

◼   ► people would consider a dance [TS]

◼   ► opportunity to find like EDM in the wild [TS]

◼   ► but but it well and EDM in the wild is [TS]

◼   ► one of the best festivals student but it [TS]

◼   ► is actually an opportunity to dance [TS]

◼   ► you just have to identify you just have [TS]

◼   ► to it's like it's like a searching for [TS]

◼   ► pokemons if you pull out your own [TS]

◼   ► imaginary augmented reality and you look [TS]

◼   ► at the cliffside and you say is this an [TS]

◼   ► opportunity to dance and a little [TS]

◼   ► monster pops up it goes [TS]

◼   ► yes [TS]

◼   ► you can actually say would you like to [TS]

◼   ► dance on the other person will go [TS]

◼   ► what and then you put your arms around [TS]

◼   ► them and you sing and dance to your own [TS]

◼   ► singing like a little bit of a mean you [TS]

◼   ► know you lost a couple bars of a have [TS]

◼   ► any big bands on string of pearls you do [TS]

◼   ► bom bom the time to time to time dat da [TS]

◼   ► anything [TS]

◼   ► children should be taught that song that [TS]

◼   ► so they can dance on demand but it to [TS]

◼   ► protect I'm done and done and dad and if [TS]

◼   ► you know what dozen of those you can you [TS]

◼   ► know you can do you don't have the [TS]

◼   ► jitterbug eating you can do some slow [TS]

◼   ► you know you can do a slow like begin [TS]

◼   ► the beguine that that's a lovely thing [TS]

◼   ► to do in front of a mountain that's [TS]

◼   ► right [TS]

◼   ► mhm and so yeah [TS]

◼   ► hey I'm spinning your partner out and [TS]

◼   ► back in and then a little bit of this [TS]

◼   ► over here a little bit of this over [TS]

◼   ► there a little over there and I and you [TS]

◼   ► are providing the accompaniment and and [TS]

◼   ► if you know if you know a little bit of [TS]

◼   ► jazz you can just sort of improvised the [TS]

◼   ► song I'll do this all the time I don't [TS]

◼   ► added to that dun dun hadn't but a deck [TS]

◼   ► down added that added that it's nothing [TS]

◼   ► it's just it's just no that's totally [TS]

◼   ► plausible [TS]

◼   ► yeah it's just gibberish right Jaz [TS]

◼   ► gibberish whoohoo [TS]

◼   ► but you're dancing and what I have found [TS]

◼   ► in recent years is that is a very [TS]

◼   ► excited partners or like wow that we're [TS]

◼   ► really doing this but they don't know [TS]

◼   ► what they don't know their job right [TS]

◼   ► there that there's no longer a sense [TS]

◼   ► like okay you are the one who's a [TS]

◼   ► singing and be doing this so then see [TS]

◼   ► you are probably going to lead me [TS]

◼   ► mhm around you know as soon as you start [TS]

◼   ► there like they start tugging like wow [TS]

◼   ► because we lost the we've lost the don't [TS]

◼   ► know how to be led [TS]

◼   ► they think it's a dominance thing it's [TS]

◼   ► not it's more like just what you know [TS]

◼   ► one person's driving in the other person [TS]

◼   ► is his writing [TS]

◼   ► yeah somebody's got to you know sort of [TS]

◼   ► and the wonderful thing about [TS]

◼   ► old-fashioned dancing right was the [TS]

◼   ► man's job was to or the person leading [TS]

◼   ► that person's job was to not make a big [TS]

◼   ► show of themselves [TS]

◼   ► no but to show off their partner to [TS]

◼   ► their best advantage certainly agree so [TS]

◼   ► it's like I'm seeing you now and i'm [TS]

◼   ► featuring you here it's more like you're [TS]

◼   ► driving it so i can imagine a parade you [TS]

◼   ► could say oh yeah the person driving [TS]

◼   ► yeah they're driving to the other person [TS]

◼   ► can wave exactly i'm driving the [TS]

◼   ► Cadillac and honking the horn you are [TS]

◼   ► sitting up on the balance and waving in [TS]

◼   ► a sack yelling at your child down the [TS]

◼   ► willow and so you know to lead in [TS]

◼   ► dancing is not to be the featured player [TS]

◼   ► yeah but but so all you know that like [TS]

◼   ► that intellectual a like that group [TS]

◼   ► knowledge has as something it is gone [TS]

◼   ► and can't be recaptured I think and it's [TS]

◼   ► the casual Friday problem mmm [TS]

◼   ► nobody just it was it was seen as an [TS]

◼   ► element of freedom to be able to go to [TS]

◼   ► work dressed as a as a furnace repair [TS]

◼   ► person and now know what now in one [TS]

◼   ► generation it was completed how to dress [TS]

◼   ► or be professional all of it was lost [TS]

◼   ► and now you know you have this this sort [TS]

◼   ► of culture of young people who are like [TS]

◼   ► i'm dressing up [TS]

◼   ► i'm dressing fancy it's sort of like [TS]

◼   ► we're like the getting dressed up like [TS]

◼   ► an adult is as like a separate special [TS]

◼   ► thing [TS]

◼   ► yeah I can have been mission creep and [TS]

◼   ► i'm personally I have to say I mean I [TS]

◼   ► know we differ on this I like too much [TS]

◼   ► casual dresser but I take your point has [TS]

◼   ► been mission creep on the whole idea of [TS]

◼   ► casual Friday to now it's just casual [TS]

◼   ► week [TS]

◼   ► casual week and and it has spawned a [TS]

◼   ► generation of you know these young [TS]

◼   ► Macklemore haircuts who are really into [TS]

◼   ► menswear let's call it menswear yeah and [TS]

◼   ► I mean you know young women have always [TS]

◼   ► had an opportunity to express themselves [TS]

◼   ► in their clothes men not so much and you [TS]

◼   ► have to really make a point of it now [TS]

◼   ► because you're not forced to by [TS]

◼   ► profession by professionalism [TS]

◼   ► well it's I mean this is up top my head [TS]

◼   ► but it for a long time i would say [TS]

◼   ► definitely even through the sixties [TS]

◼   ► men's fashion was a way of how well sort [TS]

◼   ► of how well you could fit in by looking [TS]

◼   ► like a polished version of everyone else [TS]

◼   ► and we're growing in it was like you I [TS]

◼   ► think you would distinguish yourself by [TS]

◼   ► actually distinguishing yourself by [TS]

◼   ► looking different but still fitting in [TS]

◼   ► you know what i mean i don't know maybe [TS]

◼   ► that's not a distinction but I feel like [TS]

◼   ► it is i mean look at photos i was [TS]

◼   ► looking at some old photos of our of our [TS]

◼   ► neighborhood there's a site that has [TS]

◼   ► like all these old photos of muni and [TS]

◼   ► stuff like that and like the work the [TS]

◼   ► guys like getting into his workmen's [TS]

◼   ► truck is wearing a hat like with his [TS]

◼   ► sleeves rolled up like a plumber and [TS]

◼   ► he's wearing a hat [TS]

◼   ► mhm you just you have to do that you [TS]

◼   ► can't go out without a hat on course not [TS]

◼   ► or you know if you were working as a [TS]

◼   ► professional person like white shirts [TS]

◼   ► yeah you you look at a picture of 50 [TS]

◼   ► people working in an office and they [TS]

◼   ► were all dressed exactly the same so so [TS]

◼   ► in a sense you didn't have to make any [TS]

◼   ► choice at all you just have to know what [TS]

◼   ► you're gonna wear a dark suit and a [TS]

◼   ► conservative time [TS]

◼   ► yeah and you had to have to iron your [TS]

◼   ► shirt and it had to be laundered and [TS]

◼   ► your hair had to be combed like my mom [TS]

◼   ► my plum set at Safeco insurance company [TS]

◼   ► where she worked in the seventies until [TS]

◼   ► nineteen seventy-nine when she left the [TS]

◼   ► company [TS]

◼   ► you still could not undo the top button [TS]

◼   ► of your shirt and loosen your tie my [TS]

◼   ► personal work day even like through [TS]

◼   ► disco oh no because this was an [TS]

◼   ► insurance company there's no this wasn't [TS]

◼   ► your not here to disco and I am I my [TS]

◼   ► understanding and i'm pretty sure this [TS]

◼   ► is true that if your boss saw you at [TS]

◼   ► lunch time sitting at a lunch counter [TS]

◼   ► with your tie unfastened that that would [TS]

◼   ► be cause for reprimand food because it's [TS]

◼   ► you were out in the town having your [TS]

◼   ► lunch you also were representative [TS]

◼   ► second sure [TS]

◼   ► mhm and that is the kind of thing that [TS]

◼   ► casual Friday and the casualisation of [TS]

◼   ► professionalism sought to undo or you [TS]

◼   ► know it was regarded as perk i work at [TS]

◼   ► this company where you can loosen your [TS]

◼   ► tie at lunchtime [TS]

◼   ► haha we're having fun over here and then [TS]

◼   ► that has extended to now like hey I work [TS]

◼   ► at a tech company and i am an engineer [TS]

◼   ► so I get to wear a diaper to work [TS]

◼   ► because engineers are the only transfer [TS]

◼   ► booths and nobody you know nobody can [TS]

◼   ► tell us know [TS]

◼   ► mhm because will make their garage doors [TS]

◼   ► go up and down if they if they push us [TS]

◼   ► around but you know for me like I I see [TS]

◼   ► young menswear enthusiasts all the time [TS]

◼   ► and I and I'm like I appreciate the [TS]

◼   ► effort but there's also this [TS]

◼   ► self-conscious kind of peaky blinders [TS]

◼   ► old-timey this too [TS]

◼   ► it's AI mean I don't know a lot about it [TS]

◼   ► but it strikes me that is it does [TS]

◼   ► approach a costume [TS]

◼   ► not that that's bad but it's a little [TS]

◼   ► bit like a costume in some ways also i [TS]

◼   ► was thinking about this [TS]

◼   ► at what point will we have come around [TS]

◼   ► and some really really cutting-edge new [TS]

◼   ► tech company that everybody wants to [TS]

◼   ► work for huh [TS]

◼   ► it's not one of those situations like [TS]

◼   ► how do we get new engineers oh why don't [TS]

◼   ► we you know why don't we locate [TS]

◼   ► ourselves into ET and pay everybody [TS]

◼   ► million dollars because engineers are so [TS]

◼   ► hard to find but a thing where it's like [TS]

◼   ► this is the company everybody wants to [TS]

◼   ► work at this is the cool guy place this [TS]

◼   ► is the artwork there because the works [TS]

◼   ► people will be there because the work is [TS]

◼   ► interesting the work is interesting [TS]

◼   ► they're doing something you think is [TS]

◼   ► important it's pre-ipo oh sure all the [TS]

◼   ► shit at what point does some twenty [TS]

◼   ► six-year-old entrepreneur say rather [TS]

◼   ► than ping-pong tables and endless [TS]

◼   ► cheetos at in our company workroom we're [TS]

◼   ► all gonna wear black suits that like [TS]

◼   ► non-ironic seats [TS]

◼   ► yeah that's gonna be the dress code [TS]

◼   ► black suits but like nice black suits [TS]

◼   ► tailored black suits and choose and ties [TS]

◼   ► we're gonna dress like people like Don [TS]

◼   ► Draper wear a dress like Don Draper [TS]

◼   ► because all these tech companies that I [TS]

◼   ► go visit now they all have mid-century [TS]

◼   ► modern furniture you know they all love [TS]

◼   ► their they're very conscious of [TS]

◼   ► aesthetics [TS]

◼   ► yeah but then it's like it every single [TS]

◼   ► person I see is just getting brothers [TS]

◼   ► you know they all their dress like scott [TS]

◼   ► simpson game on again getting it [TS]

◼   ► others and i like how much how when is [TS]

◼   ► it going to happen because it surely [TS]

◼   ► will that some really really hot company [TS]

◼   ► where the where the you know the the [TS]

◼   ► leading entrepreneurs in the grouper are [TS]

◼   ► conscious of the fact that they're [TS]

◼   ► trying to distinguish themselves they [TS]

◼   ► are a special group and it's going to be [TS]

◼   ► it's going to be suits at which point [TS]

◼   ► does that does that catching fire some [TS]

◼   ► really good point and I think that [TS]

◼   ► actually people have written in and talk [TS]

◼   ► to kind of a fair amount about this i [TS]

◼   ► think i think one of the things is that [TS]

◼   ► it's for a time it was a different kind [TS]

◼   ► of way of telegraphing Silicon Valley [TS]

◼   ► anyway it was a way of telegraphing your [TS]

◼   ► power was it you know Steve Jobs was not [TS]

◼   ► gonna show up you know in any monkey [TS]

◼   ► suit [TS]

◼   ► no not know of a black mock turtleneck [TS]

◼   ► is no monkey suit [TS]

◼   ► yeah but you you just gotta deal with [TS]

◼   ► him because he Steve Jobs and that's how [TS]

◼   ► he rolls but right there's were an [TS]

◼   ► article went around last week we're [TS]

◼   ► ready queue is guide apple has been [TS]

◼   ► trying to negotiate all their deals with [TS]

◼   ► the TV places to try and get like [TS]

◼   ► over-the-top you basically can get it's [TS]

◼   ► like having imagine having cable except [TS]

◼   ► you know without having to have cable [TS]

◼   ► but he's been meeting with people like [TS]

◼   ► kind of more you know [TS]

◼   ► san Francisco's kind of west coast more [TS]

◼   ► than Los Angeles in some ways Los [TS]

◼   ► Angeles still kind of a business down a [TS]

◼   ► little bit more like new york and like [TS]

◼   ► he should happen like gym shoes with no [TS]

◼   ► socks and apparently it really put off [TS]

◼   ► the people that he was meeting bet it [TS]

◼   ► did [TS]

◼   ► yeah good so I mean I guess I'm saying [TS]

◼   ► is like I think part of it part of it is [TS]

◼   ► this like this is ethos in several [TS]

◼   ► historically i can't stand the last five [TS]

◼   ► years historically Silicon Valley has [TS]

◼   ► been about you know the the sort of the [TS]

◼   ► Mavericks and the casual people in the [TS]

◼   ► see themselves as being a part of a [TS]

◼   ► meritocracy where you didn't have our [TS]

◼   ► key you know that the ideally you're [TS]

◼   ► there can be known for the quality of [TS]

◼   ► what you produce right rather than how [TS]

◼   ► much you Hugh to this company's idea of [TS]

◼   ► this IBM like idea of looking like you [TS]

◼   ► know the model worker iqid a real weirdo [TS]

◼   ► at a company like that and design one [TS]

◼   ► part of this electronic device that is [TS]

◼   ► world-changing and you know people [TS]

◼   ► aren't worried so much about your [TS]

◼   ► Footwear and well but that's where it [TS]

◼   ► started [TS]

◼   ► I don't know if that's where it is now [TS]

◼   ► but I think that's where it started I [TS]

◼   ► think that's where it started to but but [TS]

◼   ► you know that that that becomes a sort [TS]

◼   ► of arms race [TS]

◼   ► ok [TS]

◼   ► an arms race with casual wear a pretty [TS]

◼   ► soon you are you are actually [TS]

◼   ► demonstrating your power by how much of [TS]

◼   ► a slob you are how much cheetos dust [TS]

◼   ► there is on your black sweatshirt yeah [TS]

◼   ► and then yeah then we're living in a [TS]

◼   ► world where that we're well the world [TS]

◼   ► that I've described many many times on [TS]

◼   ► this program where standards have to [TS]

◼   ► climb I remember when what the company [TS]

◼   ► that funded the dot-com that i was at is [TS]

◼   ► very very well-known silicon valley CC [TS]

◼   ► and on the rare occasion that the guy [TS]

◼   ► whose name was in the company came to [TS]

◼   ► the office he talked about pickles time [TS]

◼   ► think this nice little you think he just [TS]

◼   ► come from the gym and on top of that he [TS]

◼   ► brought his dog [TS]

◼   ► oh yeah such a power move to bring your [TS]

◼   ► dog in somebody's office [TS]

◼   ► hey what's up you ain't doing that like [TS]

◼   ► you going applying for a job and like [TS]

◼   ► bring your dog with you take your dog [TS]

◼   ► might take my shoes off [TS]

◼   ► oh that's my dog Garfunkel regardless of [TS]

◼   ► their man we're going to get some water [TS]

◼   ► for Garfunkel [TS]

◼   ► well I told you right my lady friend who [TS]

◼   ► is in the San Francisco tech world and [TS]

◼   ► she's like you know she is a lot she's [TS]

◼   ► nice [TS]

◼   ► yeah she's nice and she's a lawyer and [TS]

◼   ► she's on the professional side and I [TS]

◼   ► first met her she would go to work in a [TS]

◼   ► hoodie and yoga pants and I'm like this [TS]

◼   ► seems weird to me this is a large [TS]

◼   ► company work for hand and she doing but [TS]

◼   ► it is the other things are innocuous [TS]

◼   ► she's doing like real work she's not [TS]

◼   ► she's not sitting around going like I [TS]

◼   ► wonder if we should change the color of [TS]

◼   ► the button but she's gotta deal with [TS]

◼   ► lawsuits and stuff oh yeah and she's [TS]

◼   ► dealing with our lawyers and talking and [TS]

◼   ► she's on the Executive Board or whatever [TS]

◼   ► and she said and I I don't remember if [TS]

◼   ► we talked about this but she said you [TS]

◼   ► can you have to dress this way because [TS]

◼   ► you don't wanna make the engineers [TS]

◼   ► uncomfortable [TS]

◼   ► oh really yeah and I said what does that [TS]

◼   ► mean and she said well the engineers are [TS]

◼   ► the most important people and if you are [TS]

◼   ► walking around like dressed up if they [TS]

◼   ► feel like that's like you're being fancy [TS]

◼   ► and trying to show them up or just that [TS]

◼   ► year [TS]

◼   ► yeah putting on airs you're putting on [TS]

◼   ► errors or that you're creating an [TS]

◼   ► uncomfortable work environment for them [TS]

◼   ► again so so she said you know we are [TS]

◼   ► it's you know it's like [TS]

◼   ► and and I think there's a little bit of [TS]

◼   ► that we don't have to dress up because [TS]

◼   ► the meritocracy but also you don't want [TS]

◼   ► to you don't want to dress up because [TS]

◼   ► there's there there's really remember [TS]

◼   ► the remember the twilight zone episode [TS]

◼   ► where the kid has magic powers and [TS]

◼   ► everybody in the town is super scared of [TS]

◼   ► him saying yes the cornfield right [TS]

◼   ► that's right and super super weirdly and [TS]

◼   ► his parents to everybody's just [TS]

◼   ► terrified I was an episode he'll kill [TS]

◼   ► them and he and but the but the [TS]

◼   ► appearance of the town is everybody's [TS]

◼   ► super nice and happy and friendly like [TS]

◼   ► oh of course why don't we all put [TS]

◼   ► chocolate sauce on our heads hey great [TS]

◼   ► he's like it has that feeling right [TS]

◼   ► where you don't you walk through and the [TS]

◼   ► engineers are like I don't think that [TS]

◼   ► your your shoes are creaking too much [TS]

◼   ► like you should don't you know he'll go [TS]

◼   ► with the hill you know he or she will [TS]

◼   ► move to a more more new company don't [TS]

◼   ► believe you know don't offend them so [TS]

◼   ► yeah so and I I I encouraged her over [TS]

◼   ► time to think of herself as a as a as a [TS]

◼   ► member of the professional community and [TS]

◼   ► wear shoes that that she doesn't also [TS]

◼   ► exercise in to work and then left [TS]

◼   ► fashion advice from well but you know if [TS]

◼   ► you're dreaming if your man is like [TS]

◼   ► clued in and that you know her whole [TS]

◼   ► career she's been intact so there's [TS]

◼   ► never she's never had a even if she's [TS]

◼   ► around female mentor that that was like [TS]

◼   ► oh I like the way you dress everybody's [TS]

◼   ► just wearing fleece please PLEASE from [TS]

◼   ► head to toe [TS]

◼   ► uh-huh and that's true you know that's [TS]

◼   ► that that's true in seattle to in the [TS]

◼   ► sense that the billionaire's here dress [TS]

◼   ► like like they're renting kayaks like [TS]

◼   ► the guy behind the counter the kayak [TS]

◼   ► rental place [TS]

◼   ► alright and so there is no dress code in [TS]

◼   ► the nicest restaurant in Seattle you [TS]

◼   ► could never say have a blazer because [TS]

◼   ► that because the bend of some [TS]

◼   ► billionaire will sweep in right and you [TS]

◼   ► know with his pet seal they had a garden [TS]

◼   ► or herb and forget about my kids of [TS]

◼   ► water and some fish are fucking bitch [TS]

◼   ► for Garfunkel my seal and and so yeah [TS]

◼   ► I've had people come visit from the [TS]

◼   ► Midwest from back east and they're like [TS]

◼   ► oh we're you know we're going to dinner [TS]

◼   ► should i put on something else and Emily [TS]

◼   ► like in New York City you just you just [TS]

◼   ► don't go out like that [TS]

◼   ► no no you don't i mean you know it's [TS]

◼   ► you're gonna go out like that [TS]

◼   ► yeah I mean it's you really don't know [TS]

◼   ► III ii don't know i don't find it like [TS]

◼   ► kind of like overbearing but I feel like [TS]

◼   ► it's definitely a thing that you know [TS]

◼   ► you need to maintain a certain parents [TS]

◼   ► need to have hard soled shoes and shine [TS]

◼   ► on and I just wonder at just at like [TS]

◼   ► whether or not this is a whether or not [TS]

◼   ► this is a thing where were i'd just i i [TS]

◼   ► absolutely think that we all are in the [TS]

◼   ► present moment thinking that this is [TS]

◼   ► because this is now and we cannot even [TS]

◼   ► see five hours into the future that this [TS]

◼   ► let's assume that this will always be [TS]

◼   ► the case but I really do believe that [TS]

◼   ► it's let things are cyclical and this [TS]

◼   ► will cycle back there will be enough [TS]

◼   ► there will be another era where where [TS]

◼   ► where there will be a gradual [TS]

◼   ► realization that appearances do matter [TS]

◼   ► that that stuff does it you're not [TS]

◼   ► communicating that you're just a worker [TS]

◼   ► bee you are communicating that you are [TS]

◼   ► trying [TS]

◼   ► let's say trying well it seems at least [TS]

◼   ► partly to be tied to the economy of the [TS]

◼   ► feeling of the economy is a classic [TS]

◼   ► example of you know hemlines going up in [TS]

◼   ► world war two because there was not much [TS]

◼   ► cloth and the clothes that you made had [TS]

◼   ► to be pretty modest so when the new-look [TS]

◼   ► comes around late forties early fifties [TS]

◼   ► Long's much like floor length skirts [TS]

◼   ► just use that fabric but but there's [TS]

◼   ► also just that sense of like in some [TS]

◼   ► ways like the more the more weird and [TS]

◼   ► difficult your life gets the more [TS]

◼   ► important it becomes to you to look wire [TS]

◼   ► together right [TS]

◼   ► mhm so I think that ability to look [TS]

◼   ► casual or be casual feels tied to a [TS]

◼   ► certain kind of status or success and [TS]

◼   ► specifically I remember something like [TS]

◼   ► casual Friday in the nineties where I [TS]

◼   ► worked and it was still kind of a [TS]

◼   ► pissing contest was like who's been well [TS]

◼   ► not precisely but the but you would [TS]

◼   ► people come in like what tommy hilfiger [TS]

◼   ► shirt were you wearing like when you [TS]

◼   ► were when you were doing cash [TS]

◼   ► Friday meaning mostly khakis and a shirt [TS]

◼   ► with no tie you know some guys like [TS]

◼   ► sales guys would still they basically [TS]

◼   ► dress like they would any other day [TS]

◼   ► except they wouldn't have a jacket and [TS]

◼   ► tie and then the other guys but they [TS]

◼   ► were constantly competing with like they [TS]

◼   ► reckon that's that one Jerry Garcia tie [TS]

◼   ► that that particular again Tommy [TS]

◼   ► Hilfiger was really big at the time but [TS]

◼   ► it was still it's still status you you [TS]

◼   ► wouldn't come in and like a blister [TS]

◼   ► culture [TS]

◼   ► well and also right there were there [TS]

◼   ► were very very definite standards of a [TS]

◼   ► casual Friday [TS]

◼   ► oh absolutely you could wear denim you [TS]

◼   ► yeah you had to have yet to be what that [TS]

◼   ► was why doctors became a brand doctors [TS]

◼   ► doctors was the casual Fridays we should [TS]

◼   ► give us a PBS special you know what you [TS]

◼   ► should wear my day is special [TS]

◼   ► brooklyn john go back through go back [TS]

◼   ► through western all the things you [TS]

◼   ► thought she understood turns out let's [TS]

◼   ► talk about doctors this episode brought [TS]

◼   ► to you by doc but a pop-up I I'd i am [TS]

◼   ► almost certain that the that when this [TS]

◼   ► sea change comes you're right it will be [TS]

◼   ► a reaction to something in the world and [TS]

◼   ► I imagine you know I think that the this [TS]

◼   ► rise of authoritarianism that's [TS]

◼   ► happening in our world and sort of [TS]

◼   ► across the world where it seems like Oh [TS]

◼   ► thorat arianism is fashionable now [TS]

◼   ► that's really unusual that seems like a [TS]

◼   ► thing that we have for a very long time [TS]

◼   ► all agreed was not was you know not an [TS]

◼   ► aspiration always been a long time [TS]

◼   ► actively unless it was somebody a [TS]

◼   ► middling level dictator that we needed [TS]

◼   ► for their resources land bases and [TS]

◼   ► generally was something that we fought [TS]

◼   ► for 60 or so years [TS]

◼   ► well and certainly within ourselves we [TS]

◼   ► imagined like oh they're little petty [TS]

◼   ► despot it's around the world at exactly [TS]

◼   ► as you say that we alive with or battle [TS]

◼   ► depending on how depending on how much [TS]

◼   ► oil is under the sand but in America [TS]

◼   ► we're progressing away from despotism [TS]

◼   ► think about all the things we we six [TS]

◼   ► like celebrated over the years became [TS]

◼   ► particularly the Berlin Wall and the [TS]

◼   ► blend wall and there's a lot [TS]

◼   ► layers to why that felt like a success [TS]

◼   ► one of them was it felt like kind of [TS]

◼   ► between that glass knows it felt like [TS]

◼   ► the [TS]

◼   ► the [TS]

◼   ► end of soviet-era communist domination [TS]

◼   ► or the fear of domination like we kind [TS]

◼   ► of exhale but also just the idea that [TS]

◼   ► like this wasn't a divided city anymore [TS]

◼   ► this wasn't a divided Europe anymore [TS]

◼   ► like and I know that's not entirely true [TS]

◼   ► but it felt very symbolic which is why [TS]

◼   ► the van Halen song right now as you so [TS]

◼   ► often at the time thats that's such a [TS]

◼   ► great example of how van Halen was on [TS]

◼   ► the bleeding edge think about just a few [TS]

◼   ► years later it's all running with the [TS]

◼   ► devil [TS]

◼   ► mmm matter what your line for gas star [TS]

◼   ► wars huh [TS]

◼   ► right but what should i do enforce my [TS]

◼   ► netflix chef but I do i do feel like [TS]

◼   ► this this weird rising authoritarianism [TS]

◼   ► everybody's worried about Donald Trump [TS]

◼   ► obviously we can just we can start about [TS]

◼   ► who is that what's another bus will [TS]

◼   ► arrive at the the guy that's on [TS]

◼   ► everybody's lips the the be the a line [TS]

◼   ► of the modern fashion Donald Trump but i [TS]