Ep. 211: "Character of the Mountain"
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hello hi John I'm Merlin how's it going
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good I when I when I picked up the phone
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i heard you make a sound which I almost
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never do you work in the middle of going
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oh you heard that
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yeah what was that wonder how far back
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the recording begins I'm not sure that's
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really awkward was a little time jump
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well I'm you know trying to get better
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about you know reducing my mouth noises
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was not right
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well you know I I hope it's you know
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subtle change I've always found your
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mouth noises to be fairly a fairly
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charming
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yeah sometimes I hear them and I
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realized there's a lot of making more of
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them i think my body is developing
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existential Fisher's oh dear
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yeah we'll just be like kind of random
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for coming from somewhere
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yeah I've been hearing sounds completely
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to again it sounds silly to also might
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have my array of unconscious anxiety
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noises has been widening posters give me
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an example of some of those well my
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classic I very similar in some ways to
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the dustin hoffman noise in the Graduate
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my classic used to just be this haha i
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remember that noise and then as
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sometimes when i'm waking up in the
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morning and I'm realizing what a rack my
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life is all go haha or again you know I
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i make something very similar to another
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classic does not annoy just a boy oh boy
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that's a good one
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leave the one you do in the morning I
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think Jonathan Coulton does that what
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how did he do it
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nah yeah oh no I totally do that
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sometimes in the morning i just did in
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the noises that we make there's a
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there's a noise that noise and my wife
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makes that i picked up which is like if
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you if you're in the middle of dropping
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something or you know goofing giving up
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something especially when you're
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dropping something she goes like this
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ah right just yeah and i started doing
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that I got a lot of them i got a lot of
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anxiety noises most of them are in my
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head but sometimes they they pop out
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I when i'm dropping something i do the
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thing that I guess I think of it being a
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Three Stooges sound but I've never
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really watched the three stooges enough
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no it's right to make their curly noise
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yeah I do like me
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yeah that's a good one you want yeah
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yeah no no I don't do that it's like
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yeah yeah oh it's like it's bouncing to
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the floor yeah like Big Mac once I do
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the i do that mm-hmm
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oh yeah we both do that i mean i make
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I've been told they make a lot of food
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choices i have a variety from noises but
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those are dyed to play those tactically
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beginner the the parts about my broken
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like those come out little squeaks yeah
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yeah mm-hmm
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I'm not sure that I make a lot of
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squeaking sounds yeah you don't seem
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like you have things I well it's funny
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you know isn't it true though that when
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you when you read enough library books
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about mental health that it turns out
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that anxiety manifests itself as all
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other disorders
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there's a little its yet I this is it
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i'm not a clinician as you know
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no well but if you're right you do great
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nails don't think you do the best you
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can do a little flag you know I'll do
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you know Charlie Daniels Band your
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french nails are some of the best thank
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you 10 people say they're not classy but
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I think French the French tip is a nice
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tip that's a nice tip and you know uh I
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think you know I feel like there's a lot
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of things were you know the laypersons
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idea of mental health comes kind of
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falls down in these areas that are
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little unsubtle and so you may not see
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for example that there's anxiety and
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depression in so many different things
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and in fact there's anxiety and
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depression and there's depression
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anxiety which seemed mutual exclusive
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unless you've lived it
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yeah and they're they're both really
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right there mm you know they they work
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real nice their kind of salt and pepper
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of small mental illness
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uh-huh oh I love that salt and pepper
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record shoot shoot they do i'm so sad
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and my lifestyle flaming wreck
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dooby-doo that's a really good song that
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song came out making 93 it's still
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really good
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there are so many good that salt and
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pepper record their date that's where
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they took control you know spinderella
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is no slouch
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hmm but they had they had been i think
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they had a little bit i don't know a lot
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about this but I think they have a lot
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little bit of a situation with their you
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know every band has their that person
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that God let's talk about left eye lopes
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well she's so crazy
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sdlc the right oh yeah right that's what
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I get confused no no I can confused all
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the time
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TLC chase did they take counsel not to
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chase a waterfall
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that's right but but some pepper you you
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were saying that they had AI think they
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had they had a they had a marie wilson
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type they had a handler
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oh IC and I think that's the
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transitional record where the one lady
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was like look i can write really good
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songs you know and work on the
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production and that was kind i think
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Shoop was co-authored with their marie
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wilson and then and then they went on
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the road without that's a strong record
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and for its time I I mean that's always
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such faint praise but you know that was
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that was kind of a pretty wild like you
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know these are sexually empowered ladies
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like doing a really legitimate you know
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hip-hop song and it was like I was like
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a top x song top x I don't see I'm
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trying to look at wikipedia but i'm
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pretty sure it did well I'm sure to I
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think it might have been number one
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you're talking about number one hit
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well something like that shoot you know
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this was that that was precisely the air
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when I was not I was not a I'm not able
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to comment on popular culture between 91
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in 94 with with any kind of reliability
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because those were the top years that I
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was not what I was disconnected out
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really thats I'd like to explore that i
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would also like to say publicly to
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apologize that you know you know me
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you know I is still because of my own
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personal interests and time and focus i
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still think of 1989 as being kind of
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like the apotheosis of hip-hop move the
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dude of you haven't talked about this
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but you know what I i guess when I say
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that on the one hand i'm forgetting how
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much stuff was that I thought I was
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aware of was really good circuit 93-94
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and now in retrospect going back and
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listening to more I can't believe how
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much I missed because I was one of those
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people who was like
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you know the gangster the dark stuff the
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gang stuff the East Coast West Coast all
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that stuff really put me off i was not a
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huge I didn't a time like a biggie but
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like I'm back and I've been listening to
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so much stuff from like 93 94 in
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particular and it's fantastic and I feel
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like a doofus for how much I missed
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there's a guy there is a guy follow on
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twitter
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whoo-hoo really really will take on all
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comers if anybody tries to step to him
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by saying that there's a better rapper
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than Vicki and I I'm learning that is a
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commonly held belief
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yeah and uh hilo watching his thread
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unfold as you know various people will
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say but but but what about and he just
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destroys them with with biggie defense
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big biggie because its empirical yeah
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i'm not familiar with the with with a
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lot of those catalogs because it all
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took place
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I mean I'm much more familiar with with
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the hip-hop of the last 10 years then I
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was at that central because you know i
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think i was still caught in in like I
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went I went down that tribe called quest
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corridor right during that period which
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fields which in some ways feels like the
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last chapter of that story in some ways
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yeah at it does it feels like a like a
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hip-hop was getting really smart really
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conscious it's and more and more
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ambitious like introducing jazz and
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stuff like that it really felt like wow
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this is going to get can get more
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interesting than this and while at the
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same time about the same time you gotta
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see hammer you got no ice
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eventually a crisscross you get you know
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how to paint and stuff like that we're
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like in my mind I was kinda like
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shutting down gonna go well this is jump
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the shark at this point like Biz Markie
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I mean there was a lot of there's a lot
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to related it splintered let's say huh
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then what survived it was not what I
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would have expected was gonna survive it
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right i mean the all the stuff that
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seems like really cool and
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and and intellectual I guess I mean that
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when Atlanta what Atlanta rose to the
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top was the was when I kind of felt like
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what is what why of all the things of
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all the directions that hip-hop could
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explore wise atlanta leading the charge
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and I said I I felt that way because i
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was a Pacific Northwest booster and the
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hip-hop here was always smarter and
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maybe a little bit less hook driven but
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also liked the stuff that was getting a
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lot of airplay was and i'm probably
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conflating my dates here but it was more
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like what became of the dirty south kind
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of stuff which and on for me but but you
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go back and listen listen to like late
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nineties outcast and its really good
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sure I mean like I Phi was not aware of
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that but I'm not back in like even the
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last week especially I've been listening
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to what I have to
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you're gonna hate me for this but like
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being into Hamilton you can go in kind
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of 10 here's the thing is you know what
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I should have a list of anxiety sounds
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that i make only what will start talking
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about Hamill yeah this is not a bit but
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i always say is that he is very generous
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about saying you know for example like
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you know this song like which one like
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satisfied
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uh it's very very similar in some ways
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that's very helpless is very similar to
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clockwise by Beyonce a song that i
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totally passed me by I go back and
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listen clockwise I'm like this long
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fucking great
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this is a really great song like a huge
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now i'm going back and I listen to like
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illmatic a long time ago I finally went
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through and it's fucking genius so or
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like now you know there's a time when I
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offshoot albums they had a pretty good
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solo stuff and wu-tang stuff and it is
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really it is really special and I want
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to eat my words and say I was I was dead
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it got different if not just better it
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definitely more sophisticated but the
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flow became more important you know the
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flow as we come
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I know how important flows it always was
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stuff that your clothes and well you
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know the heavy flow i would I you know I
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think that's actually what I well how I
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think of you
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well you don't need a medic mid 90s
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hip-hop is a lot like any kind of humor
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where a woman i thought i did not I did
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not mean that to go back into the 9700
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I'm gonna say is that you can dissect it
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that and you can talk about nozzles
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internal rhyme schemes but it doesn't
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really get at the thing it's like you
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know it's like trying to say like why
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this money python bit is funnier than
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that one but that's always going to say
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about you just described described
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months and months of my life I was not I
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believe me I thought about it but 91 294
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you were still doing your thing then huh
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yeah well yeah and also completely
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unplugged from I'm gonna have people ask
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him how it is that i can i can claim
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that I don't consume media intentional
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not ask that and yet also have you know
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passing knowledge or i can at least keep
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in the game of a conversation about
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anything i can tell you a song comes on
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the radio I can identify it and say who
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it is and I can't explain that exactly
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either you know like I haven't bought on
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a record album in a long long time and
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record album once like a i can count on
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a couple of hands the number of albums i
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bought since I was out of high school
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really but yeah I mean but what if I
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bought 15 albums maybe I mean the never
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talk about the the day out
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ok computer came out the day ok computer
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no I don't know about that day I think
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there's any year that didn't happen but
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that did that it didn't happen it was
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the only thing that happened
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actually hear about the typo i was
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sitting at my I was sitting at my in my
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store my little uh magazine store and I
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I love to read the british pop magazines
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q and mojo and enemy and stuff like that
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so I was sitting on my counter at work
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you know ringing ringing up people's
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newspapers and reading probably q and
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here's an article about Radiohead in the
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studio and they're in there and they're
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working on their new record they've been
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working on it for a long time and it's
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getting ready to come out and i'm
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reading this article and I'm like this
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is really interesting like you know but
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I don't know this band but but i really
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liked this article and it got to the end
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and you know we always got the british
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pop magazines on a little bit of a delay
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because they had to come in the post and
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it gets to the end of the article and it
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says you know the records coming out
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April whatever and i'm like 'that's
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today and so I picked up the phone how
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right i do instead somebody bring it to
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yeah Ryan to write you remember this
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called the record store day at the end
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of the at the end of the neighborhoods
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like this
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Radiohead and he was like it just came
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out today it's incredible and I was like
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why I don't you know i don't get off
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until 11 and I know your store closes at
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nine is there anyway we can wear and he
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was like out bring it to you right and
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something like that will happen where it
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sounds like I'm a massive fan of things
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and like I had a guy bring me the record
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before the store closed but no that was
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just the one time that ever happened but
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it just so happened that it was ok
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computer and you know and that was
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obviously a record that was on it that
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was on heavy rotation only rotation
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maybe but so anyway during that period
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the early nineties right I was consuming
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a ton of stuff because i was living in
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seattle and surrounded by culture
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that was happening a certain culture but
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as far as what was on TV at that time or
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what the what the contemporary fashion
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was maybe or what any kind of music that
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was happening outside of my outside of
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the world that of happenstance and I
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guess that's what it is but it's a it's
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a happenstance thing we are we were on
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tour one time and Sean was DJing and the
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DJ game you know we're driving into the
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night we're the only two that are awake
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and he started he started asking me like
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what band is this what song is this and
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I could and I could tell him and so the
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DJ game became can Shawn play a song
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that I don't that I can't tell him what
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band is and we drove through the night
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and somehow and i have no idea how I was
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able to identify every band food and
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Sean's really trust you know like
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shooting out some obscure shit I
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couldn't do that now
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right but 2004 i could just be like yeah
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I think that's probably you know just
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sort of died it wasn't all very
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confident but I could listen to it and
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get the vibe of it and then pull down
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out of my you know Terminator menu like
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this is you know this has got to be
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behead coats and I was just thinking
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I mean how would you know like I'd I
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cannot tell you how i would so it's a
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it's I think it's a like it's a there's
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a permeability to me that I here and
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register stuff but but I don't
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intentionally seek it out and I don't
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sit around and consumers voluntarily
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yeah and during that era I was just yeah
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I was soaking in it
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let's its I'm this is not totally
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analogous but it might be a little bit
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sports wear when i was a kid i was very
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into following sports professional
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sports especially baseball and most
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especially the Reds you know and just
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the National League in general and so
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far you know for a couple three years i
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would seek that out in addition to it
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just a huge part of my environment
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living in Cincinnati but i mean i would
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look at the sports page i need the box
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scores i know who is out by two and a
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half games and stuff like that I knew
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who's batting averages were what that's
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here with the thing is you think about
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think about baseball think about the ND
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think about any of those things you have
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so much more attention for that stuff
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when you're younger so back then yes I
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did seek that out and I collect baseball
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cards etc etc all the things of the kid
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does but arm announced but now today I
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don't follow sports
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yeah but you can keep it moving in the
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Congo but it's it's everywhere so you
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kind of you know you kind of have to
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know at least a little bit about sports
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in order to be a man in America like you
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can't just get you considered I think
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it's considered somewhat confrontational
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to go into a discussion going to talk
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about sports
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I don't even like boards well yeah I
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mean like it obviously that's a certain
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kind of like you know I don't even have
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a tubular my now I know I don't even
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know what he was something I need the TV
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understand but I'm but I think that's
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part of it and we know you're just
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surrounded by it and it's it's what
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other people are talking about and
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you're just picking stuff up but you
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know music also is different because
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even though you may have heard the name
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the head coats don't know how to
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pronounce that the head coach many times
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you may not
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I mean how would you have known that
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particular like oh this is brian
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jonestown massacre like how would you
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know that you know i don't know i don't
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know let's um let's go let's go this
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direction do you think Pete Rose should
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be in the Hall of Fame I feel like Pete
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Rose yes probably
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sort of conservatorship I'm not the word
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is I think someone should be his power
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of attorney and like should get him to
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quit Donald trumping all the time being
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such a dumbass but no I mean you know uh
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I do I think that's I think that is a I
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don't think about it a lot but you're
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asking I think he is it is not a very
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nice person he's not a very smart person
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but he was legitimately great at what he
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did and what he eventually did in the
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late seventies early eighties shouldn't
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have an effect on the way 20 years that
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he was people right right giving praise
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lawns Barry Bonds should be in the whole
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thing I i'm home run hitter right yeah I
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I don't know that's complicated
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I Alex Rodriguez you like a murder not
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like the guys is right
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right now ya know why everybody but when
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people have strong feelings with it was
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here a doping scandal
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well yes ok but i think is so Alex
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Rodriguez was as was a seattle mariner
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how to do the Yankees he will eventually
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so he left he was a seattle mariner he
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was a very popular player i mean in the
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sense of his game but nobody really
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liked him right everybody likes ken
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griffey jr. here in Seattle it's ken
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griffey jr. walks into a restaurant here
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at everybody just falls on the floor it
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was it was easily mariner giggling he
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was a he was a mariner all through that
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he was the one he was the young guy that
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like brought the Mariners to Nationals
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you know his dad from the Rebs right
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right and he was just this charming kid
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that could hit the ball out of the park
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and everybody loved him and you know the
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stadium that we built here we certain
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people will call it the house that
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Griffey built I would never call it ok i
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would say it wasn't how you think about
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it was the house that got built after
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three different three different citywide
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boats each vote Tony against the steps
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are different on the shirt but um but uh
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but so Rodriguez he was a great player
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but but that was the intro era tu and I
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mean it there were a lot of people to
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like and he was not one of them and then
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he signed the richest deal in the
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history of baseball 250 million dollars
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or something to place in texas rangers
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and then he traded to the yankees and I
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think the Rangers have to keep paying
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him somehow that so he gets paid by the
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AE ideal like that you should get that
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kind of deal i should have won the last
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Rodriguez like he's happy place on the
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yankees one of the all-time I think is
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the number for home run hitter in
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barry bonds of course the great Barry
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unlikable character you were here in San
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Francisco during his reign right yeah
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yeah yeah I mean it's funny he just he
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just radiates unpleasantness
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yeah yeah he doesn't seem likely see ken
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griffey jr. and it's like yeah just
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no he seems like he would talk to a kid
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but Barry Bonds part also the earring
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and only theory
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yeah yeah yeahs get ken griffey jr. I
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mean what ken griffey jr. bought a house
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in Florida and I don't this is a long
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time ago I don't care about baseball or
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any of that but when he bought a house
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in Florida I felt a little bit betrayed
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like Ken what are you doing why you
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buying a house in Florida man your
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seattle guy and then when he traded oh I
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was any I think he went to his dad's
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team right there was some reason hmmm
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but I felt like we didn't mean it's a
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little bit at the same way with a churro
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went it was like what you guys are
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Seattle Seattle where you going where
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you going man but we don't talk about
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that i think i think that the players
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moving other places is a super
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interesting phenomena Yeah a like hair
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like you know every game you go to every
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game you see so many people had a for
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the Giants in last year's had like a Tim
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Lincecum Jersey you know like you know
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as there's these characters who become
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so synonymous with the team and it's why
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people go to the games i had at one
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point I had a Jason Giambi days blouse
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not much was that more a housecoat and
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generally house could really i misused
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the word should we use all the time like
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else if something sells ago like it fell
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together like a like a wine i know you
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really should ease luxury is ashish
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model but yeah like that's a beautiful
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chemise and the person I'm complimenting
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will go huh
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no this is a chemise know that's like
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pingas it's a good word but it is funny
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because like you know it's it's such a
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complicated not of feelings and brand
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and business there in 44 everybody I
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mean for the team for the player for the
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people like you understand I'm again
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just to be clear I'm not trying to be
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cynical about this
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I've had those feelings i bought those
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products like I feel that bond
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I mean I have you know Marvel character
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sitting around here my my office
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it's just that it's funny though when
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somebody does leave them people just
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people are so sad they're so crestfallen
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and now like that that Lincecum jersey I
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mean like what you gonna do with that
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you can
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wear that around yeah what you got to do
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with that ya can't wear that around can
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wear that around
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well I mean I people people do I see I
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people at baseball games i mean the the
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sheer amount of mariners merchandise
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not to mention like Yankees merchandise
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I mean they're the the number of yankees
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baseball caps in the world has got to
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exceed the number of domesticated cats
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in the world like this time more yankees
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hats and people Empire is 1.1 yankees
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hats per person
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it's like cellphones in south korea 41.1
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some like 1.1 1.2 cell phones per person
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in south korea so right
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they have their beyond one hundred
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percent saturation but well haven't you
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been hundreds in saturated never had
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that I happens to me all the time you
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know I often do this program in the back
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i I really felt strongly about it 0 and
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it was because he just had a grace as
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kind of personal grace and the fact that
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he spoke English but insisted on doing
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all these interviews through a
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translator the way he the way he walked
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out on the field his little quirks you
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know he was a tall man he was not a
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small guy huh his peers just reliable
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and there's a lot of criticism of him
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for the way he sort of appeared at least
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to be batting for himself and his own
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legacy rather than for the team i guess
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but III can't
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that just seems like weird sports talk
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that seems like sports radio talk and I
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often wondered why he singled so much
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when he clearly could have knocked that
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ball out of the park also like you know
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he could have he could have tried to be
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a hero like a like a Alex Rodriguez type
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where it's just like Grand Slam
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uh-huh but he just was this workman like
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plumped the ball into the field
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somewhere where nobody can catch it we
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call it a small small small ball move
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the move the the runners forward
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but I really admired it and I just liked
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everything about him I just like his
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physicality it's one of those things
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where I mean I don't are you watching
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the olympics one of the problems for me
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of watching the olympics is that I cry
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every time really doesn't thing
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interesting i heard the swimming lady
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did really well I saw an infographic of
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swimming and it looked very amazing
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she's extraordinary athlete but like the
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the way that they televise the Olympics
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the the the commentators are are so off
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like I mean really invasive ring but
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yeah I was a large community that was
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watching them yesterday and a
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commentator actually said well you know
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do you think she can pull it off and the
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other person said well I think she can
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pull it off
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the question is will she wow that's a
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really good point so it's actually
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Campbell will she
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yeah and I was just like wow you know I
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can do I could do that job
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yeah but is it really this game is going
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to come down to whoever puts more points
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on the board the events right that's
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right who I mean who's got hard
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oh and the other thing is these guys
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came to play ball but they really the
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the Olympics the way we televise them at
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least he doesn't like a bit there's a
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story there like I what I call file card
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you get a file card always mom drove him
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to pull every morning at 2am that cancer
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or the or the lately they're doing this
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thing that I've never seen in past
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olympics weather like this person has
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been is a five-time olympian who's never
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wanna metal all cinderella stories and I
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guess yeah you're just like wow we've
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been to the Olympics five times I've
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never won a medal luge on their do well
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and it just feels like okay you are one
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of the greatest athletes of our time
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because you've been to the Olympics not
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just once
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five times huh and yet she like Oh
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championship eludes you
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how must that feel I mean to be the
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greatest athlete like there there's a
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diver a competitive diver from China a
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woman who's been to the Olympics five
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times and has more
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gold medals than anyone in the history
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of diving and you just watch your diving
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you're like wow that's that's
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exceptional you know or watch the US
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gymnastics team you just like I don't
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even understand what's happening
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I couldn't describe that move if I had a
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if you know if I had a powerpoint
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demonstration right but to to be one of
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the greatest athletes of your country
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and of our time and have never won a
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yes i am now emotionally engaged in this
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like I just wanted two different story
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now it's also it's all it's a story
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about overcoming and it's also announced
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the aging but it's a story about getting
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yeah there's no how many more chances
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are they going to have there's a gymnast
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from Uzbekistan just a 40-year old lady
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was fucking 40 years old that's crazy
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and she's out there competing with the
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you know with 16 year olds yeah but I
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don't even need any of that
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contextualizing drama building American
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television like let's make it you know
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let's make everything MTV's the real
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world impulse just watching sports
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people performing at their highest level
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i just will start to cry about any
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competition where I see somebody be
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performed beautifully because at that at
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that level of sport the difference
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between somebody who is one of the
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greatest in the world and the greatest
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in the world is so profound
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yeah you know like this person ran that
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race and they you know where within two
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tenths of a second behind the leader but
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the leader ran with this indescribable
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ility that I that I have this emotional
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response to and I don't know why and I
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don't know how I can't control it and I
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sit there I'm just like I'm I don't cry
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I don't cry but if firm you know if I
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saw somebody if I saw like well i think
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i would probably cry if I saw something
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I'm not sure maybe i do crack I don't
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typically cry in the course of a week or
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four-year um I don't cry about things
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that happened to me but watching
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somebody do a race and and you know
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thrill of victory agony of defeat
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I just get so worked up and I and I so
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best thing
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ya feel that way about truly great
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moments in sports of all kinds when
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somebody does some baseball thing that
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that just is that's captivatingly good
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evenin a mundane game where some you
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know where fielder just pulls off a
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catch I'm just like oh and i'm not sure
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if i'm not sure if sports fans are
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experiencing those feelings too and
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that's why sports is so popular with
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people i find i find it almost a little
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overwhelming
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yeah yeah it's it's also my my my friend
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John Gruber as put it this way i think
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this is pretty smart you know there's
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some people who are into baseball for
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the numbers and some people who are into
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baseball for the story and I thought
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that was a really nice point the first
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person to say that but I think that's
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really smart and people who are into the
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story are into this much longer arc of
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like not just this inning
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we're not just not not this at bat this
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inning this game this are you know
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double header or whatever this not even
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the season is the grand Ark of the big
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story about the Yankees yeah oh and I'm
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looking I'm looking right now is funny
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you should mention that at an article in
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the new york post where is Jeter ranked
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in the top 10 greatest Yankees nice well
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except the writer says cheater isn't
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even in the top 10 Yankees and then he
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proceeds to talk about babe the babe the
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babe and lou gehrig enjoy DiMaggio and
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Mickey Mantle and Yogi Berra boo and
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you're just like there are a lot of big
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Yankees there are a lot of top Yankees
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where's Derek Jeter going to fall the
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wait so wait it is it written by Derek
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father who's a better constantly area
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oh that looks like a like a showtime TV
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show kind of thing
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yeah I so with you just finish this one
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bit yeah i think that you know if you're
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someone like me who's a tourist like you
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can come in and just in you know enjoy
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game on its own terms but you know like
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my family my gosh my in-laws they are
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they're just they're screaming
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obscenities the whole game they're all
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they're mad about the calls and like
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they're very very invested but I get
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what you mean i'm going to just toss out
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something I didn't I I used to be really
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into the hitters like the big hitters
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again and getting older I'm more and
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more really appreciate pitching and
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especially when you look at somebody
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like our God is an amazing closer for
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the Yankees a few years ago
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oh I'm so embarrassed the you know that
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one guy
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but yeah the guy you know who I mean
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yeah he's the latino guy whose name I
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can't remember
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but like when you go in particular he
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was pitching I think against the giants
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a few years ago in the World Series and
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just the coolness like The Incredible
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composure that it takes to come in at
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the end and and be able to keep it all
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together from pitch to pitch and if you
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fuck up bitch where you gotta not fuck
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up the next one and like you know you
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don't get to be a hero
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you've got you've got to make you gotta
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become a hero one pitch at a time and I
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really or a goat but like it you're as
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good as that game and oh wait i know it
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rod Rodriguez has a name I look it up
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thankies relief pitcher I i I'm saying
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pitching and the composure and
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athleticism and intelligence that it
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takes to be a picture like to not get
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stuck in your own head like it's just so
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amazing to watch
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quality like Felix Hernandez for the
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Mariners and Ariana Mariano Rivera
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Mariano Rivera yeah something you know I
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i followed the Mariners most closely
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because it because it's part of our
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culture here
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know but your local team a lot of times
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will generate more fandom among mode the
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local population to get the whole to get
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the national sport and there's different
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teams that are there nominally located
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around the country you're saying that
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the town that the in your hometown that
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team that franchise that business they
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tend to accrue more attention and
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affection typically among the local
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population so now my my dad is was from
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the Northwest he never lived in boss
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then he didn't leave never we never
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lived in Pakistan he grew up in Seattle
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went to college in seattle and then
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moved to Alaska so he so he had a very
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geographical fandom it was like em it
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out from the initial wound and so he you
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know his number one favorite thing was
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Huskies the University of Washington
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Huskies and I think that he I think in
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the in the fifties and sixties he
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followed Huskies basketball but as time
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went on like the Huskies football became
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you became the big thing but he like
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college basketball and he would root for
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the team in any because he would watch
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any game any sports game he would root
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for the team or person who originated
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the closest to seattle so if they were
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to get there were two tennis players and
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one of them was from Baltimore and one
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of them was from you know was from
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Boston he would he would adjudicate in
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his in his geographic understanding of
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the country which was closest and i
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would say it's pretty hard to you know
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pretty hard to care
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that's so arbitrary yeah he was just
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like you know like he always rooted for
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berkeley over UCLA like just that just
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made sense to who
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um but so Felix Hernandez is a big deal
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here in seattle he's Abby's the you know
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he's a picture that has his own fan
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group in the stadium and he is a great
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picture but I just this is I'm you know
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this is one of those things I can
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explain
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I'm just not into Felix tremendous huh
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he comes out and i appreciate his
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performance i understand that he's a
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great picture but like I don't feel an
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emotional resonance with him sometimes a
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pitcher walks out there and just like
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this guy holy cat who I into this guy
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and I don't know what it is it so it's
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not just Flair it's just something I
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just feel like Felix Hernandez is kind
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big kid maybe I feel like maybe he's a
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little bit of a bully in the dugout but
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like not have not a bully like he's just
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what he's always laughing but he's like
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he's that you know he's like grabbing
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the grabbing your underwear and pulling
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hmm so but that's that's where the weird
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thing about sports
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i I don't know how it is that i can tune
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into curling at two o'clock in the
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morning on a hotel room television and
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about everything that's on TV at two
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o'clock in the morning which is to say
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nothing but i will prefer watching
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curling to almost anything else if i can
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find it on TV and I'll sit else in the
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hotel room even if i have something due
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the next day and i'll watch curling as
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long as it's on the five o'clock in the
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morning and i'll get really invested in
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a curling match between prince edward
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island and Saskatchewan and we'll just
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be like really rooting in general i
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think i would probably root for Prince
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Edward Island and a but it would depend
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it would depend on how whether i like
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the captain or not the uniforms uniforms
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but you know if curling were just
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sweeping the way kids sweeps the
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mcdonalds it wouldn't be as fun if the
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intensity and focus of the sweeping that
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makes it compelling a little music kappa
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night but i find the sweeping aspect of
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it you know because that's where there's
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a lot of yelling you know a lot of
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yelling to go with that sweeping is that
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right yeah yell at each other they
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yelling at the puck the stone they're
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just yelling at the walls because
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they're very excited and they're
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sweeping is having get relative to the
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amount of energy they're expanding its
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having a very my new effect on the
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corner trying to make a little path
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right yeah a rough day rough up or
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smooth up for doing something to a
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certain area to make make the stone move
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a certain way a curve the stone Turner
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that the aspect the aspect that I like
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is the throwing of the stone because
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it's so focused and i understand it like
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and you start to see that your whole
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body slides with the stone
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and then you just set it free it's like
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fly be free stone and let the sweepers
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sweep as they may but i have set you on
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a course on a path through life are you
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going around these other stones are here
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and like parenting
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that's right are you going to hit these
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other stones head-on or you can move
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around these somebody come up and coming
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to combine clean up after you
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yeah you're gonna run down and fuck one
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of those cows are you gonna walk down
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and fuck all those cows this episode of
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that was good i don't have strong
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feelings I have friends who are very
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very into it I i thought it seemed good
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it's got kind of rain in it although it
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does have kind of run
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uh oh yes yes it does show you watching
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well i stumbledupon it was late at night
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in a hotel room that's a great time i
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have to say that is actually a great
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time discovered TV shows you're so
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predisposed to something that's not a
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knife commercial yeah I i well so I
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discovered band of brothers on hana
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flight it was one of the hanging was one
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of the early flights don't have to talk
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about crying there's two things I
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discovered on flights that true well
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let's say three things well I discovered
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delta airlines a trivia game with
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consistent as European sports think i'm
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so mad about frustrates you who is the
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captain of the of the nineteen seventies
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winning manchester united manchester
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united nothing about Lester look you but
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at another two TV shows i discovered the
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two not not TV shows the do
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entertainment i discovered on airplanes
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are Band of Brothers which I had avoided
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up until then because it felt like this
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is just some saving private ryan
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bullshit some steven spielberg produced
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ya tom hanks involved like weird fake
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war like high-definition war movie that
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I and I didn't see saving private ryan
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when it came out and my dad was still
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alive and we should have gone to see it
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together but I was like I don't want to
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watch some steven spielberg war movie
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hopefully you know that opens still
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pretty rough
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well and that's the things like when i
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finally watched it I said was I so
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afraid of this is just a great war movie
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and I have watched them all war movies
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but I'm on some flight and it was a long
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flight it was like from Europe and for
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whatever reason they had band of
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brothers and I started it starts getting
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no but I started soon enough i think i
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think i started episode 2
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Johnny when you asked what a fucking
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cast yet incredible and it was streaming
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it was it was in order so i just spent
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ten hours watching band of brothers and
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it was it was like it was like the Civil
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War documentary can first ken burns or I
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guess what i think of as the first ken
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burns which I could watch that once a
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year for the rest of my life
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what's the shit what's the name of the
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battle in the weather stuck in the woods
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with your daddy
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yeah you know the one I mean yeah the
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one in the woods
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ah fuck what is wrong with us this week
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well yeah thanks Tom those bolts the but
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the bolt the yeah this is your damn
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right is it but it's the one where
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they're stuck in the woods outside the
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village in the fuck and it's very
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amusing bombs are just coming to just
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and they're just picking them off and
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like that is I think you know did the
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ability to tell that story and to keep
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drawing that out with so little relief I
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i think it's masterful and it's late
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it's like over at least one probably two
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episodes at least and it's just it's so
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relentless and so well done and I said
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that cast
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yeah I really good show you know what
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the public that show if I'm at this guy
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could be wrong but two things I remember
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coming out around nine eleven is jay-z
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record came out on 911 and there was our
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band of brothers came out just a little
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bit before nine eleven i think about and
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I we kind of lost in the lights because
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we at the time we were like it I really
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that sensitive you know you feel back
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then you know it's like I don't know i
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don't think i'm gonna go watch you're
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not gonna want to shoot him up
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it is so good the guy from homeland is
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so great on there
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well and that this is one of those
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problems of with actors right I cannot
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watch him in anything else
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DJ he just appeared in a new spy movie
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as like the the sort of Q spymaster
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character right in a damian lewis
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someone say i guess i like it i watched
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him in a spy movie just recently that
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involved some you know escaping from
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some baddies and he was the the another
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fairly a
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like a moral spymaster and andy and
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using his actual British accent and I
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just found the whole thing very false
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because I because he is lieutenant
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winters for me forever
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yeah the other thing I discovered on a
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delta or not Delta i'm not going to
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advertise for Delta here it could have
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been any airline yeah that had TVs in
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the back of the seat was David Blaine
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Street magic and hey I cannot tell you
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how much that first episode that first
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appearance of David Blaine Street magic
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how much I was just like God show me
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more of this street magic is real
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who cares i know he is out there like
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you know looking to shoot it happened
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like I think of a card
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ok six of diamonds what here call your
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mom how did you wait a minute how did he
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just full-on guess the card was the one
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since the ones writing this has been
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parody temp too much greater effect but
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it is really true it's like there's it's
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like you know you've seen that guy
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Apollo what's-his-name the greatest
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pickpocket in the world you know
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yeah yeah he's great my daughter and I
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just want to watch that video every
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couple weeks and I still I still can I I
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know how he does it and I still don't
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see him do it but he's doing it I that I
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believe I know there's some tricks in
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that but that is all I think genuine
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brilliant sleight-of-hand yeah but with
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the but I think don't you think it's
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probably more stagecraft with David
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Blaine you don't care i think it's david
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playing the guy is on a salad bar for
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six years and he's the guy who does the
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name the endurance things
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yeah which I don't find very interesting
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like he's increased in I alright top of
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the bellagio for and it's just like you
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all right you're starving yourself to
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death that is amazing i guess from
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it's pretty slow reveal but there are
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those guys in India there's the one guy
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in India who has had one
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I'm raised for 15 years what the daily
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said or 40 years or something like that
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he's got one arm that he's just kept
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raised and it has become completely
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atrophied there's no muscle in the
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armoire fat if the arm that he holds up
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appears to just be his arm bone that's
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commitment and he and he does it because
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of that you know whatever that aesthetic
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a tradition is there and you know where
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you're just like I pound a nail into my
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nose his decision
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his thing was I'm gonna hold one arm up
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in the air which if you've ever tried to
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do it for a long period of time if
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you've ever been in a lecture hall and
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you're like who you're trying to cut
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somebody's hair you know how hard it is
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to keep your arms in the air for more
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than a couple minutes is a lot harder
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than it looks guys had is on one arm in
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the air for decades this is one thing
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that with the internets really good
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because you have to guess at some point
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somebody goes you know what I want to
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dedicate my life to God show this vest
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is an empty vessel without without our
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god I'm gonna put my arm up in the air
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and like a year in tuition because I you
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know another guy's been doing that for
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14 years already got fuck yeah sorry man
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now what am I gonna do think of
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something else left arm left arm but I
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but so I'm not interested in David
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Blaine's geegaws because what what
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interests me most about magic is
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close-up magic I don't want to see a big
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show I don't want to I don't want to see
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a lion disappear you know like all those
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things at Penn & Teller do where teller
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is walking around and some rubber ball
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is following him across the stage like
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it's not just all like legacy I I feel
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like that is just that's just show you
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like you like those clothes magic that
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really feels magical because they you
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know in those biggest shows they just
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set up the lighting in such a way that
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you can see the wires its own show its
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tricks but like the Ricky J stuff for
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your brother
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you can see that where those cards get
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rid of them they keep coming out of his
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butBut so David Blaine is doing the
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thing that I always wanted to do and the
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best part about David Blaine is that he
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uses magic any and again he's a complete
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cornball right like like they set it up
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in such weather like where should we go
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let's go to downtown st. Louis at one
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o'clock in the morning
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like the place that everyone is the most
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scared to go and they want their walking
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around with a TV camera with bright
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lights on in East st. Louis and these
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guys are kind of coming out of the
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shadows and even the the neighborhood
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guys are like are you crazy like this is
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the place of all places that you don't
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want to be why what are you doing and
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the David Blaine's like launch come over
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here and discarded as a manager
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yea big card and the guys are like pick
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alright because it is this your gun yeah
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this magic popping card picks a card
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David like is it the four of clubs and
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they're like wow I'm and it's that it's
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that idea that magic you did you don't
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need a common language you don't need ye
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it pretty it's like a protective bubble
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because your amazing people and and
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you're doing it like you're not taking
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their money it's not a game of dice
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you're just like let me show you let me
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show you something that's gonna blow
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your mind and it any and it universally
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blows people's minds anywhere and that
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is such a great that's what I always
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wanted to know it's like I wanted to
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know magic and I wanted to play the
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harmonica who because with what with
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close-up magic and with the harmonic you
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can go you can go anywhere right
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oh you're kidding me there's nowhere in
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the we're going to delight children all
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over the world if you can play the
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harmonica and do a card trick
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there's nowhere in the world where you
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can't go trains coming way and people
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are like yeah yeah god like you're
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welcome everywhere
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yep strand if you can be like where's
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the corner oh it was in your ear
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what every kid in the world is on your
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is on your side and then the
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suspicious-looking grandparents who are
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like what are you doing with the quarter
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in the ear is this are you some kind of
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pervert right and then you're like you
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were thinking of the four of clubs and
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then the grandparents say basically come
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stay with us
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that's the 1i love and a guy you don't
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because you decided you want to go be a
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skateboard guy but i think within their
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own culture
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yeah they were there just their attitude
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was well if you make us wear ten pot
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helmet we're gonna take it off and throw
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it away the second we get out onto a
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mission of fashion thing it's also is
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hurting their ability to be agile though
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you can't hear in them you can't see out
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of them and also the helmet goes like
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quite can be quite heavy Clank there was
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an episode about 98 on 90% 99% invisible
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recently they talked about the problem
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of basically like you know should you
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were huh sures like you know you can
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take 32 decibels office sound I put
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these things in your ear but you lose
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the subtlety of hearing like somebody
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rustling around or somebody whispering
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it's a risk there they risk long-term
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hearing damage because it enables them
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to be able to hear smaller noises
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similar kind of thing right but so my so
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i think that the actually black cock
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story that they that inspired a redesign
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of the helmet for all of the Armed
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Forces turn me out closer to a
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skateboard helmet closer fitting you
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know with the ears more revealed so that
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you can hear better
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yeah a less clankety clankety is made of
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steel but there's a at as far as i
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understand this to be true there is one
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recorded example of a special forces
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person dying of a traumatic head injury
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one in the whole history of them wearing
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skateboard helmets
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wow so it seems like on the one hand
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that's too bad
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and that guy should have had a helmet on
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because maybe he'd be alive today but
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also they seem to know what they're
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doing and there they are saying to
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themselves one way to keep from getting
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shot in the head is to keep your head
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down like don't be a guy who's in a
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trench who's picking up over the top in
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your skateboard helmet if you're gonna
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do that
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go find another go find a different
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helmet over but Jenny if you're just
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running through some some situation in
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the middle of the night at the nobody's
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gonna shoot you in the head the chances
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of them scoring a headshot are pretty
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low and so we're gonna wear these other
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helmet and I admire that there was a
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there was a guy grow when I was growing
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up at Mount Alyeska who skied in a tank
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commanders helmet like a Russian you
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know the ones i'm talking about that
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they they are like it's not a helmet
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it's like it's like paths that go from
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your forehead to the back your head like
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five of them across the top of your head
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that looks like it doesn't look like any
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other kind of helmet maybe it looks like
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a bike helmet like an old-fashioned bike
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helmet just made a paths that's made out
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of leather dynomite my uncle have one of
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those yeah yeah
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and so there was a guy not always a
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little take a little Leatherhead cage a
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little head
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Leatherhead kids that's right which I
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always assumed was something some jurors
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yeah let Leatherhead kids and Jason
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and he wore this has his ski hat right
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and and it was like uh it stood out but
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this is another question I have for you
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yes when I was a young preteen and teen
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ager the way people wore their ski hats
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at Mount Alyeska really mattered to me
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and stuck with me like everybody's
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wearing a hat huh
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because you're all on the mountain and
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there are a lot of ways to express your
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style on a ski mountain you know like do
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you have the latest sweater
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we are all watching for that stuff
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because it's very social
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skiing is very social sure so you're
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like oh those with this or this year's
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skis or those last year's keys or bull
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are those three years ago skis this but
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also you know Ski fashion changes very
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fast when i first started out everything
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was still wool and everything was role
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and red white and blue and then as time
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went on like by the nineties Ski fashion
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just looked like a stuff from in living
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color but I remember as a kid being very
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impressed with an interested in anyone
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who wore their ski hat in a jaunty way
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and i still can I can still can think of
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45 people some of them I knew some of
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them were just characters of the of the
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mountain
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who wore their hat it in a jaunty way
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and I'm just I thought about this quite
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a bit is that an actual was that because
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I was a teen and things like that we're
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making a very strong impression on me
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and I felt like the fact that this guys
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wearing his ski hats slightly askew is a
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bold move on his part and and is
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impressive
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I'm impressed by this and this is
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something i'm taking away so is that
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because i was a team is that because i
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had some latent interest in fashion that
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was that was different from other
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people's or a is it because it's
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genuinely it was genuinely impressive
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you know what I mean like the guy in the
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tank commanders had was that really like
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if I saw that today what I would I think
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cool what I think I'll i mean i think
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it's kind of both but I think part of it
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is that when somebody while wears
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something unusual or even weird i think
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part of it is the fact that the part
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that most of us dinguses mrs. like oh
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I'm going to put on a tank commander had
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look like that guy
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it's the confidence with which they pull
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it off that really tells I think this is
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the thing about fashion is and this is
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why there's so many missteps in trying
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to ape what other people do is you you
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try to like emulate the kind of dumb
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physical characteristics instead of
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trying to emulate the confidence and
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exuding of personality behind that John
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yeah but I think that's what sticks with
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you like me look at that guy how do you
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do that
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do you remember you remember Merlin Mann
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from the late to thousands who me
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the Merlin man whose hair was a was a
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character was a bigger-than-life
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character
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oh yeah I mean kind of yeah sure I
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remember him to remember this Merlin
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Mann family everywhere was working i
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like to think of him as the Merlin Mann
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of that photo site was that photo site
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that you like so much flicker flicker
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yeah and I had lots of hair problem you
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really were you really ran flickr I did
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I didn't have had a big hand in that
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thank you for having you ran the table
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over forget who and boy you're you're
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different hairs were very exciting to me
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every time I tuned in it was like that a
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lot of people try and do this
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will Wheaton is very big about is
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morning hair now it's one of his troops
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who don't follow wil wheaton from his
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work and his television personality is
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on names on Star Wars he was on Star
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Trek Star start back I always get those
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confused and it's the the newer
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generation
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yeah normal generation huh no I'm not
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missing this kind he likes cats he does
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i think also desire and his entire
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family is very handsome handsome family
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i mean i can probably had some no
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offense
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no it's all right i mean i don't have
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any dog in his race but but but your
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hair your pioneering hair explorations
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very very interesting and you you're not
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somebody who says like i'm gonna wear
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flamboyant shirt right Merlin man
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doesn't wear a flamboyant sharp Merlin
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man wears a pretty dependable shirts
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already probably a solid Pendleton or
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something you know that just says like
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I'm here I'm here I'm queer get used
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from but the hair yes you were bold bold
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bold choices because so kind of had a
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mind of its own i I never really i would
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have a hard time finding a haircut that
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I would like but I don't have a
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particularly distinguished record of
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deliberately doing something interesting
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mmm i sometimes stumble ass-backwards
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into something interesting interesting
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don't realize it for a while but I i
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just have such a fraud history of trying
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to do something cool and because i
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missed I mean not to keep quoting myself
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here but because I wasn't trying to
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emulate the physical characteristic or
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is the way I would put it like I was
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tracing a shadow on a sidewalk and I was
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trying to be somebody else like
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Hiroshima my absolutely ugly and
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reference
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Wow and brothers we happy few I and so
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that thing is to get you can't do that
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you gotta quit doing that unless you
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pull it off if you can pull it off
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that's great but like you know I really
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think that the thing I don't know I'm
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just repeating myself but that's but not
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wasn't trying to do a thing I said come
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here I saw a picture of a guy a few
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years ago
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yeah who was standing in front of a
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fashion show I don't know
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I you know I'm revealing a lot about
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myself that I am that I'm being exposed
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to photographs of guys standing outside
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of fashion show
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that's ok because it's a you know you
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have to pursue that that's not a thing
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you're just going to see right you're
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not going to open up a magazine John's
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countries changed a lot we're open to
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all kinds of points of view and fluidity
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it's it's ok if you've seen fashion
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thank you thank you thank by the way
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that September issue of Vogue is coming
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up just so you know I don't read those I
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don't read the I don't read the
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beginning you don't even have a TV
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because I can't stand magazines that
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have perfume in them find a magazine
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every once in a while somebody will uh
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or not somebody every once in awhile
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Vanity Fair will send some family fare
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at me intimated that sense of Vanity
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Fair at you
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yeah and I'm like don't do this yeah I
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don't want this you know like yes okay
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maybe there's a very interesting profile
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Ellen john f kennedy jr. in a Vanity
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Fair that I might actually want to read
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but do not send these to my mailbox on
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bidden because I open my box and for
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conflicting male perfumes the start
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pouring out and then I have an allergy
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attack and is no way to live
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I don't even carry an inhaler and I
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should have one just for an encounter
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with a random Vanity Fair terrible
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condition
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look but so I see this photograph of
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this guy standing out in front of a
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fashion show and he's wearing very old
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ripped you know like near ipped Levi's
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they're not just blown out at the
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neither like ripped all the way down
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like a carefully ripped settable sure
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Reagan who fancy rips but they're not
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fancy ripped on some pre ripped jeans
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they're vintage Levi's that have been
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fancy ripped and the way you fancy
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repair Levi's but a lot of people don't
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know this is you delicately run a razor
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just very delicate and then let entropy
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of the work that's right let you all
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you're doing is getting started
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you're just getting started with a
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little bit of a razor cut across the
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pants all the way down there you know
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and then then they fray very well so
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he's wearing these and then a
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double-breasted blue blazer with brass
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buttons and you know an open collared
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shirt and then his hair is really really
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slicked with a side part in a kind of
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let's just call it what it is
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brown shirt haircut Oh like a like a
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post Macklemore your pre Macklemore Mack
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all printing more pre Macklemore plus y
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plus 5 more a proposed by mar pre
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Macklemore ok and and i look at this and
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I'm like the element here the unexpected
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element is the double-breasted blazer
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which is like huh
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there's some there's some Flair
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happening with that double-breasted
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blazer that is not a thing that anybody
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expected who and so I the next
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opportunity got a double-breasted blazer
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with brass buttons blue hard to say a
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blue double-breasted blazer with brass
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buttons nice
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and i would put that blazer on in my
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house and I'd say here I go out the door
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in my blue double-breasted black
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brass-plated you know you can always get
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a couple of times I'll protools it and
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you'll be fine and I and I would get to
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the front door and I would be like huh
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hmm what ways but you do them you
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deposit moment you die you think
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something wasn't quite right about it
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yeah I would stop and i would say it
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seems like on the face of it you're tall
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it seems like that would be a good look
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on you I think so too did you look like
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look out like a cereal mascot or
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something
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no I looked amazing yeah but I paused at
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the front door because it was not my
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invention
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o.k saw picture a guy and every once in
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a while you see a picture of somebody in
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here like that belongs to me that's not
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even yours you're wearing that but you
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don't even know what it is
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yeah you know you feel in your gut you
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not to think about it like you you know
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like oh that's my thing
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yeah yeah the first time well one time
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many many years ago Shawn Nelson and I
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were driving in the car and there and we
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were driving along i was driving and the
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light turned yellow the light turned
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yellow at and we were at a removed from
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that light sufficient that I could have
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applied the brakes and stopped should
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have probably if you want to be a
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stickler about the law but surveying the
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scene looking to the left and to the
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right I realized that there was no
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impediment to me continuing forward and
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I neither applied the brakes nor the
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accelerator but simply let the car move
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as it was moving
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he kept on keeping on I kept on keeping
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on and so went through the intersection
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as the light was changing to the stop
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let's say let's say I was in the
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intersection as it was still yellow but
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we continued moving through the red and
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Sean in a gesture where he was you know
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indicating a kind of like
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contempt even for my insouciance for my
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sort of like devil may care he raised
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his hands in the air and went out how
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like to shooting two pistols like a
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Bandido into the air but it was not in
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admiration he was doing it as a
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commentary like you know I guess the
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laws don't apply everywhere i'm a i'm a
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Bandido and I and I saw the gesture and
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I said that belongs to me now you you
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made that gesture in reference to me and
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it is not a gesture that you are using
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for yourself because it doesn't belong
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it belongs to me oh and i started to
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when i was about to do something
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reckless go out in the air with my
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fingers sounds like it sounds like a you
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that's right well it became a you better
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because it became a bit and now everyone
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I mean I do it all the time
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couple everyone i know associates it
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with me
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it's just a way of saying like okay well
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fucking school and sean has a long time
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ago I think saw me do it and commented
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like hey you got that for me you took
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that from me and sunshine probably said
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to you it's a it's called the not your
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friends show business
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well a little bit like what you really
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saw that one for him too yeah but we are
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you gonna do with that John you were
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never gonna use it again and it was when
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you were using it you were using it a
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like let's say against me and I
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repurposed it right it's my nigga right
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like I took it back
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Garrett I took those guns back all I get
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you taken back the night taking back the
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night to those jobs back and I made it
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up I made it a positive i spun it
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mm and and so there's a little bit of
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like I hope hope this is not a shed
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that's always listening to to learn
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english i was there so deep in in
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analogies and metaphors and at this
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point I'm so disoriented but your point
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is that sometimes it belongs better on
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somebody it's just that when it came to
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the blue block button button blazer you
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felt no no
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oh that's that guy's that's Hitler hair
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well i still can't so I have done this
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now several times i have I didn't get
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rid of the above the double-breasted
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blue blazer with brass buttons I and I
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put it on sometimes and I get as far as
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the threshold of my house and I stopped
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and I say this looks amazing on me
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there's no one else in Seattle that's
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that's doing this
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Commodore Schmidlapp miss ya business
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you know this is my this is my own Maj
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to caddy shack right or whatever it is
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looking like this guy was in New York
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City there's nobody nobody's gonna come
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at me and say wait a minute i mean now
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that I've revealed I've showed my hand
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on this program if anybody ever sees me
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in a double-breasted blue blazer with
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brass buttons they're gonna say I know
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that I know what you're doing but but i
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never was able to get outside in this
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thing and partly it's because I don't
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know when you sit down in a
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double-breasted blazer apparently you're
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supposed to leave it button and I and I
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can't do that and uncomfortable to leave
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the jacket buttoned when I sit down
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because i've been i've trained myself to
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unbutton the jacket boy sit down you do
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that thing that gentleman do where you
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are when you rise GG button button
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yeah but she's even unbutton your seated
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that's right i love that move
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it's a great move right man sometimes
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you know there's just this one section
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of 2001 that I'll just watch a lot it's
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that whole like you know in the middle
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of the don't know jack you call it but
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it's when working back its when
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what's-his-name
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hey good Marshall Floyd Floyd haywood
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when when when when he goes to the space
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station and it's just courtliness on a
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spaceship
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it's just sitting and having a drink
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it's doing a little phone call it's
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happening he goes and he has the meeting
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with the people he does that move he
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doesn't move very well as Heywood Floyd
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is that his name
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floodwood hey who wants a floor third
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floor leaflet hey wood floor i'm having
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a tough morning floor floor floor
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Heywood Floyd Heywood Floyd you were
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very close or even on it
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Heywood Floyd it's three it's very makes
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me it's one of those things when i watch
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that it's like watching James Coburn
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movie or something we like man I
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wouldn't mind being in the sixties
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mainland unbuttoned their their their
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jacket to sit down and they butted up
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against and you can still do it you can
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still do you don't worry that
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oh yeah I do it all the time but you
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can't do a double breasted well I just
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don't know i don't know that i used it i
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mean as much as I thought Letterman was
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a riot and when he started wearing the
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wrestling shoes with khaki pants and
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that was a funny thing but he's driving
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me nuts that he wouldn't button up his
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double yeah he was flapping around was
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so stupid
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it looked terrible he looked like he
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looked like a a manta ray fucking flappy
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wins it's like that time your geeky yeah
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well why not what you got to tie your
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get your fucking key
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well so anything about 2001 if you think
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about it it's a trick that's okay wit
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you think about 2001 a Space Odyssey
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right we think of it as expressing the
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sixties but really there was a there was
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a very brief moment where so much of
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what constituted the the sixties and i'm
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not talking about the hippie sixties but
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I'm talking about like that the tight
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the buttoned-up sixties the buzz aldrin
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sixties like Van Dyke sixties the Dick
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Van Dyke 60 so much of that was still
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reverberating or even absolutely reverb
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especially in the straight world you
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might grow your hair a little bit long
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but you still had a tailored suit
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absolutely and that carried into the
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seventies into our era when we were kids
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we were still we don't think you know
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2001 doesn't seem like out like a thing
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of our era but in fact it was because
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something that happened five years ago
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now i know i know i know it's like funny
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something that happened in 2011
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everything I was in the Superchunk all
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morning and h times thing as so much
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super chuckles like every time a song
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came on and what this is 21 years old
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this is 21 years old 21 years old and
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and like to me like I would see
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distinctions within a given year about
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stuff you know when you're a little kid
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you like oh my gosh you want you
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it's like 85 like oh my god this rerun
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from the community to is so dated
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yeah right or this this this fashion
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from that from earlier in 1985
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page you were so again this goes back to
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the beginning I guess it's kind of
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environmental awareness where you're so
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you can't help but be super aware of
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certain things i greet you know I I
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still watch that and that timeless isn't
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too strong of a word but I still think a
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bunch of the sequences in that stand up
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so well today one and so when we were
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seven years old what that movie was what
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is 70 years old
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is it came on 69 it still works
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instantly so is it yeah it was only six
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years old when I was seven years old
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we're at a point when I was getting into
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space and imagining what life in space
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was going to be like like it was
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essentially the the most recent idea and
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what space was going to be was very chic
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and anybody it would be analogous to
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taking like a business-class fight
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yeah very exactly exactly right you know
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everybody was was dressed very well
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there were many girls shoes gonna bring
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a juice box
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pan pan american airlines was that was
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the purveyor and it was at a really
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influenced us and it was only when Star
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Wars happened and the aesthetic of Star
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Wars was like actually a lot of a lot of
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the spaceships are going to be writing
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in our kind of a little bit greasy yeah
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the cash like yeah yeah um but but that
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was so that any way it feels like that
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was a very brief moment in time when
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when we were imagining colonizing space
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and it was going to be elegant and then
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it became it became an elegance all
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through the space state overall through
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the shuttle years it always felt to me
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kind of like yeah astronauts were were
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the people that were you know that did
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pretty well in biology right where they
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want this swashbuckling Navy pilots that
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they had been in the sixties although
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they i'm sure all the astronauts were
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Navy pilots until recent times but it
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was much more like oh yeah we're going
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to send a teacher in space it's going to
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be you know it's it's much it's it's
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it's not elegant it's very much like
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we're working here this is we're doing
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work now it's not we're not just a
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like bold explorers we are up here doing
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yeah there's there's there's there's
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work to be done here this is not some
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flight of fancy know like hey hand me
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that wrench and the person like the
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astronaut throws the wrench in it it
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flies across the other person grabs the
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rent and were like we were in space but
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really we're just doing some work we're
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working on cars up there like we're
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throwing wrenches back and forth instead
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of martinis like if somebody sent me a
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martini and you flew a martini over how
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different is that
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yeah then a wrench right and now we're
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introducing these four pay like Elon
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Musk jets and you think yeah there
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there's going to be some fake elegance
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there it's gonna be like flying Virgin
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Airlines where there's there's some
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purple lighting but I still that's not I
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mean maybe we've just maybe we've lost
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the elegance of the sixties and that's
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what I'm complaining about
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uh-huh even even the elegance of the
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sixties as prognosticated into space
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flight into into SSTs don't you wish
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that you'd written in SST I wish I don't
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know what I wish upon a star
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well part of it is the technological
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idea of like but it really would be neat
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to be living in a time when we were
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looking beyond oh well nothing like we
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even like that carefully looking at the
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problems of our planet but we're looking
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looking much broader than that because
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to me like if you start thinking about
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your place in the rest of the universe
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you can't help but think more about
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where you live and I think that's
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something that gets lost sometimes is
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when people talk about moving sidewalks
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and jetpacks is like when we lost the
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ambition to think about what was in the
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rest of the universe and put a budget on
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yes sure there's still stuff here and
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there but you know the in our kids like
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is somebody gonna go to the moon again
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like I don't know it seems like they
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have to at some point but why are we
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working on that because when we look
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beyond our planet we have to naturally
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think more about our planet
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anybody who comes back from space and
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seen that view comes back with this
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singular feeling about about their home
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this this planet Earth this spaceship
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and that we are already on and I don't
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know I don't you know it's it's not
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difficult for me to wax rhapsodic about
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but I think that's one problem sure
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there's a part of me wishes I could be
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you know i would float and go like fly
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around in a suit and like you know maybe
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you need a sandwich with the crew you
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know going to see the obelisk and all
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that but now you're part of it is and
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this is just the old you know our old
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point which is like there's just
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something that makes me a little bit sad
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inside that we've lost our disaster for
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exploration and not just macho
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exploration but just exploration for its
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own sake that helps us to understand
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just more about the world outside of our
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world and i think that makes our life on
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this planet somewhat diminished as long
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as we're not doing that and I'm like
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about it a lot but i do think about it
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I'm always astonished that that like
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strong advocacy for space exploration is
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a controversial topic because you and I
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share a feeling of like yes we should be
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exploring space what why are we even
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talking about this
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I'm embarrassed that we are doing such a
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poor job of it and have been for so long
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not just that we should but like what
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the fuck are we doing get the family is
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something we are made made to do that in
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it and once we got that ability it seems
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like the kind of thing where like to go
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and explore even near space responsibly
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it feels like our destiny yeah and I
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wonder whether like when the bike gangs
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came to New landia or whatever they call
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it New Forest idea who up there in in
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the in the canada then nobody from
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Europe came back to the Americas for
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another 500 years right the vikings made
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it over here they dug some pits they
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forged some some iron as a Viking will
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do and then either those Vikings died or
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they got back on the boat went home and
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then never made it back here like
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Vikings made it to north america and
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then did not come back and four five
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hundred more years there was there the
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there be dragons until until the Spanish
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and the Italians and the 40 days the
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Portuguese like to get this
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headed back out and said like let's just
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go see if we can get rich by raping
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yeah but then they made it here and then
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once Magellan's sailed around the world
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it's not like it's not like there was
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another hundred years where people in
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Europe or like whoa whoa let's take it
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easy this isn't in our budget right
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somebody and what it was was somebody
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found gold and no one has found gold in
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outer space yet right
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and so you know we went up there we we
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put over like whatever like theirs
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theirs unobtainium there's something up
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there that we need for this purpose and
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the space race starts all over again
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that kind of motivation we put a dozen
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people on the moon
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you know and it was like okay good we
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can do it and I bet the Russians are
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scared but there was no you get to the
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moon it was like dust minds
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let's bring back some more dust and dust
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is worth a lot of money only because
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only 12 people have been here how many
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people but yeah something's gonna happen
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up there where somebody realizes oh I
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can collect fairy dust up here and use
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that very dust to something you know to
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build a cubic zirconium are you know
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like it's a it's a it's big it's a bang
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maybe there's some new you know some new
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drug up there one that does what it
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should one that doesn't make you feel to
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back one because i make you feel too
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good to go into a few stay for a minute
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