Roderick on the Line

Ep. 215: "Occasional Live Keyboardist"


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  hello hi John hi Merlin how's it going [TS]

  good how are you going good thanks for [TS]

  starting late today [TS]

  well I understand that you had a big [TS]

  apple event but and something about a [TS]

  new iphone came out that had some things [TS]

  that you need to know about yeah I as as [TS]

  they're being announced need to know [TS]

  about him [TS]

  yeah so I so I understood totally that [TS]

  you would need to you know postpone our [TS]

  regular are already once postponed [TS]

  podcast school in order to go to what I [TS]

  presume the television or did you go to [TS]

  a library or something to watch the big [TS]

  the big reveal where someone in a black [TS]

  turtleneck walks around with the with [TS]

  the digital pointer how did it go [TS]

  this is an actual question well yeah i'm [TS]

  not sure i've never want you could just [TS]

  said you're welcome but you know no no [TS]

  it's a the the black turtleneck was a [TS]

  Steve thing now it's mostly guys in [TS]

  their sixties in untucked blue shirts [TS]

  all this untucked shirt thing uh-huh [TS]

  was that meant to communicate um I don't [TS]

  know this seems like a very you know it [TS]

  is it's like business casual in the [TS]

  nineties wear it it isn't what it sounds [TS]

  like [TS]

  like I think there's a pretty well [TS]

  described or understood dress code for [TS]

  these kinds of things which is you where [TS]

  you were some kind of a slack that you [TS]

  are slack a trouser then you're a [TS]

  chicken black mm eats anywhere you are a [TS]

  trouser that's not too formal but not [TS]

  exactly jeans you might wear some kind [TS]

  of like a ski skin book shit and usually [TS]

  you have a blue casual ish shirt [TS]

  untucked you can also do a little the [TS]

  long sleeve a blue shirt initiated I've [TS]

  heard called new media blue new media [TS]

  new media blue you wear that with collar [TS]

  and with the sleeves down you know the [TS]

  but these people aren't hired [TS]

  spokespeople these are millionaire [TS]

  people multi-millionaire people who are [TS]

  doing this talk I think they're probably [TS]

  pretty comfortable [TS]

  yeah yeah i mean you get that you get [TS]

  the CEO you get the [TS]

  but get this guy over here on the CTO [TS]

  the CFO the CEO 10 years and what this [TS]

  is fascinating background for you at [TS]

  Apple there's a CEO and then there's [TS]

  mostly you get the vice president's you [TS]

  get like a senior senior executive vice [TS]

  president will see i approve vice [TS]

  president he looked like a vice [TS]

  president I do I don't like a lot of [TS]

  people up with the sea level I think the [TS]

  bed you know I think that too many seas [TS]

  spoils the soup [TS]

  oh but uh how the sea assault remember [TS]

  the land of the old man and the sea [TS]

  killed and the sea salt yep yep yep my [TS]

  greedy i just weird how you like vice [TS]

  presidents in some companies director in [TS]

  some companies it'sit's you lieutenant [TS]

  colonel problem right you get a lot of [TS]

  what he called the Iraqi Colonel's yeah [TS]

  yeah rocky Colonel we had a lot of them [TS]

  are you just going to goodwill get [TS]

  yourself in a rocky Colonel outfit [TS]

  you're good to go [TS]

  now tell me this so here it is it's big [TS]

  day big day today [TS]

  yeah I presume a lot of our mutual [TS]

  friends a lot of people are going to be [TS]

  the XOXO festival who are like Barbara [TS]

  clear my schedule [TS]

  yeah i'm gonna sit in front of my laptop [TS]

  or the or my transistor radio [TS]

  yeah remember to listen to this listen [TS]

  to it on the I radio like the chain not [TS]

  processed automatically summon didn't [TS]

  really serious nerd Christmas people [TS]

  people make a point of watching this [TS]

  it's a tradition that goes back just [TS]

  iphone specific this is not there's not [TS]

  going to be there no new imac or or or [TS]

  mac paint right it's not an oeuvre but [TS]

  maybe never know that there could be [TS]

  just one more thing we have a new mac [TS]

  paint for the macintosh uh-huh could be [TS]

  back pain it could be a new let's see [TS]

  i'm going to scroll down the sidebar new [TS]

  Finder okay all got people love you find [TS]

  her a new launch pad June sure press [TS]

  assistant system it's been forever [TS]

  through the new version of facetime [TS]

  really restart shutdown lockout some of [TS]

  these are very popular programs booze [TS]

  all faithful sure photo booth [TS]

  oh yeah i think i have used to take [TS]

  selfies on my [TS]

  laptop that was just a death cab song oh [TS]

  it's a death cab song that was on an EP [TS]

  yes and I think using there's a photo [TS]

  album is different than photos totally [TS]

  different but photo booth was everybody [TS]

  everybody at bar soon understood that [TS]

  photo booth was a hit [TS]

  yea it hit written all over it but it [TS]

  only came out on an EP huh [TS]

  and in that sense I hear about it all [TS]

  the time because it's the commander [TS]

  thinks aloud problem yeah it was a good [TS]

  song that was only on an EP so it failed [TS]

  to the the power of the good song failed [TS]

  to to move units right of the album [TS]

  because its people people don't buy bp's [TS]

  the way they buy an elbow place back in [TS]

  the day so that at bar sook I think it's [TS]

  called the photobooth problem and within [TS]

  the long winters camp [TS]

  obviously it's called the commander [TS]

  thinks lap did you guys think it's your [TS]

  best known song i think so i think well [TS]

  because it's been it's been popularized [TS]

  by it you know it's it's got it has at [TS]

  has multiple sources of dissemination [TS]

  right it's the song exploder was a good [TS]

  one doesn't really good one but also [TS]

  adam savage a learn to play and place it [TS]

  at his shows and you know it was a it's [TS]

  like yeah it's are there any ukulele [TS]

  cover seven John absolutely no who [TS]

  anyway so here we are we're we're we're [TS]

  listening on our honor thing on our rent [TS]

  railroads apples having an event yep [TS]

  that almost certainly means that i'm [TS]

  going to have to sign or click accept on [TS]

  a new set of terms and conditions on [TS]

  itunes right that's I think as we're all [TS]

  watching this for all thinking how is [TS]

  this going to affect John [TS]

  well because every time i turn on my [TS]

  computer somehow I have to accept a new [TS]

  set of terms & condition is not a thing [TS]

  huh [TS]

  and it's just like yes yes I do i do not [TS]

  want to be held here at the customs [TS]

  building who have the border of slovakia [TS]

  and Ukraine because he never clicked to [TS]

  accept because I didn't click accept [TS]

  click the first one but then when it [TS]

  popped up to say are you sure you hit [TS]

  you accidentally hit cancel everything [TS]

  held at the border [TS]

  that's right did do you have any liquids [TS]

  or gels [TS]

  Oh mhm I don't you didn't check the box [TS]

  you say no but you didn't you scroll [TS]

  back up say the number anything anyway [TS]

  so here you are [TS]

  yeah and this is an event huh where the [TS]

  untucked shirts are just talking iphones [TS]

  not exactly [TS]

  ok they do they have an event in June at [TS]

  the developers conference where they [TS]

  talked mostly talked about software [TS]

  because you know that affects the [TS]

  developers and this is their big event [TS]

  where they usually in September they [TS]

  announced the new iphone this is a new [TS]

  iphone every year and then there's other [TS]

  things and there's been many many [TS]

  question marks because this is kind of a [TS]

  weird time for Apple they have not [TS]

  updated their computers in a very long [TS]

  time and they're still selling some very [TS]

  old things and then there's this is [TS]

  picked this particular model of iphone [TS]

  people have had a lot of questions now [TS]

  let me ask you this [TS]

  de still have an iphone that you use red [TS]

  so do you ever use it to listen to audio [TS]

  like to music [TS]

  no no not a lot looking at your hearing [TS]

  good luck because there's not a [TS]

  headphone jack anymore so this is the [TS]

  big headphone jack on this is the [TS]

  headphone jack controversy which only [TS]

  was revealed very recently [TS]

  yes and everyone said this is the final [TS]

  sign that little Steve jobless apple has [TS]

  lost its path [TS]

  whoo-hoo right word no did I say that [TS]

  every year every six months oh you know [TS]

  there's a lot of talk about that kind of [TS]

  thing but so does that mean that there [TS]

  that they're pushing everybody into a [TS]

  bluetooth only music listenings not [TS]

  exactly [TS]

  ok the new the new iphones that don't [TS]

  have a headphone jack come with [TS]

  headphones earphones that will work with [TS]

  the existing lightning adapter they also [TS]

  have new wireless ones that are [TS]

  bluetooth like that are kind of [TS]

  innovative neat i'm sure they will not [TS]

  fit my tiny ears but that's beside the [TS]

  point [TS]

  yeah they're trying to try to move way [TS]

  it's also the new phone is water [TS]

  resistant which would have been great [TS]

  three days ago when my daughter poured [TS]

  an entire bottle of water in my wife's [TS]

  purse [TS]

  oh yeah and ruined her phone oh yeah and [TS]

  everything else ever sure her money is [TS]

  wet [TS]

  Oh what money ok I get money a lot [TS]

  because i'm a perspire sticking your [TS]

  sock [TS]

  no I'm not afraid of being the jacked [TS]

  although you know the story of my family [TS]

  is that my grandfather [TS]

  when he split town when I 1467 whatever [TS]

  figures and didn't come back right [TS]

  he hopped a freight as part of his [TS]

  hoboing because this would have been [TS]

  1936 oh that's the height of 50 times he [TS]

  apparently did keep his money in his [TS]

  bottom but it is very hopeful but it's [TS]

  very noble [TS]

  wait a minute you mean is I can't [TS]

  confirm to you mean in this prison jar [TS]

  that but it is so so little bit [TS]

  you did it so if i have my often in a [TS]

  big rock candy mountains and shit you [TS]

  want out of me back not the sock okay [TS]

  you're back now find in a big rock candy [TS]

  mountain and yeah I'm here you there [TS]

  yeah you went out for a minute are you [TS]

  somewhere different it's not even [TS]

  keeping his sake kept it somewhere else [TS]

  in the big rock candy mountain and I [TS]

  know there's no point asking these are [TS]

  you on wife let's read never mind don't [TS]

  answer please answer in the big rock [TS]

  candy mountain and it's so so grandpa [TS]

  goes out for cigarettes and he's got [TS]

  money in his body's getting his whole [TS]

  bottom apparently but I don't you know [TS]

  now that I'm thinking about it there's [TS]

  never there was never a situation where [TS]

  some or some like a hobo colonel came [TS]

  back and said I your father kept this [TS]

  watching his bottom right right that's [TS]

  not the kind of thing that gets written [TS]

  down in the in the family bible know so [TS]

  I don't even know where I heard that and [TS]

  I don't know I can't confirm you know [TS]

  what I mean that that's that's even less [TS]

  that sounds like a record that sounds [TS]

  like a speculation [TS]

  yeah that's even at that that's right a [TS]

  speculum ation who uh there's there's no [TS]

  way anybody could have known that [TS]

  because it's not the type of thing he [TS]

  would have said so let's just scratch [TS]

  let's strike that from the record but he [TS]

  might have had like a hundred-dollar [TS]

  bill with them i think so or a gold [TS]

  calling because I'm sure [TS]

  gold coins right you would put a [TS]

  hundred-dollar bill in a glass vial and [TS]

  put it up there that could end badly [TS]

  no I think it's probably gold coin he [TS]

  had to you [TS]

  I don't mean to dear tables ok so I I'm [TS]

  not reading into this something that's [TS]

  not actually there you're saying yeah [TS]

  but money maybe I well I've heard that [TS]

  but again i'm going to check with my mom [TS]

  and see if if that's a story that [TS]

  because it on the one hand it's not a [TS]

  thing I i can picture him saying but on [TS]

  the other hand it might also be [TS]

  something that he brought up at the [TS]

  dinner table [TS]

  so what did he ever come back oh yeah I [TS]

  came back I mean my great-grandfather [TS]

  you have cigarettes he did my [TS]

  great-grandfather at a certain point [TS]

  look down at the five-year-old and [TS]

  three-year-old that he was raising and [TS]

  said this is bullshit and he threw them [TS]

  in the back of his 1934 chevy and drove [TS]

  from Ohio to California in that be [TS]

  36-38 drove across the country on route [TS]

  66 with these kids and according to my [TS]

  mom that they spent the whole drive [TS]

  sitting up on the package shelf of the [TS]

  back of the Chevy drove all the way out [TS]

  there drove around California asking [TS]

  people have you seen this guy found him [TS]

  and said get your ass back to Ohio and [TS]

  raise your goddamn kids [TS]

  damn how why grow that's family what [TS]

  yeah my great-grandfather was nobody to [TS]

  mess around he's the one that like was [TS]

  putting a new roof on his own barn at [TS]

  the age of 92 Jesus old stock pioneer [TS]

  stock [TS]

  yeah now let's get back to the question [TS]

  at hand [TS]

  yeah if I have my iphone plugged into my [TS]

  lightning adapter [TS]

  yeah I got it gets so much more [TS]

  interesting I cannot listen to it on my [TS]

  headphones now if it's if it's being [TS]

  charged it used to be a kind of human [TS]

  centipede that right you have it plugged [TS]

  in [TS]

  you have to get a daisy chaining huh [TS]

  yeah you can have plugged into the [TS]

  adapter and the sound is coming out the [TS]

  other end into your headphones yeah then [TS]

  what you do with that sound is up to you [TS]

  we're talking about you go out and [TS]

  violin these Newlands yeah if you want [TS]

  by one of the new ones and it's and the [TS]

  battery is low which isn't available [TS]

  available we will be when you plug it [TS]

  into the lightning adapter that is also [TS]

  where you are expected to plug your [TS]

  headphones [TS]

  yeah it comes with an adapter which I [TS]

  think was actually strangely brave of [TS]

  them are nearly Apple would go and we [TS]

  got rid of this thing because you never [TS]

  actually needed to do but this time [TS]

  there including an adapter that changes [TS]

  from your lightning dingus to your [TS]

  headphones dingus my boy because you [TS]

  know every headphone in the world uses [TS]

  the same little mini jack 2.5 million [TS]

  years there are 400 years every single [TS]

  one [TS]

  yeah and all those that's okay soso the [TS]

  tech nerds are up in arms against an [TS]

  hour to get to that first day to get [TS]

  through the watch and talking about the [TS]

  news new brand new watch series to watch [TS]

  you got there by the way this is our [TS]

  extensive coverage of the September [TS]

  apple event thank you for tuning in to [TS]

  get the you get a guy because this is [TS]

  the only podcast you do that is on the [TS]

  tech podcast and little by little I [TS]

  don't really do any tech podcast but [TS]

  that's ok then what what wait I haven't [TS]

  had a mute button [TS]

  oh cheese becomes back that was a mute [TS]

  button that was tremendous Wow [TS]

  right right as i was about to do a [TS]

  terrible terrible sounding car [TS]

  no I heard the role you have a role [TS]

  going in there all it's one that's one [TS]

  of the advantages of this location of my [TS]

  podcasting my now growing podcasting web [TS]

  oh because here i have a Miami but [TS]

  that's nice [TS]

  umm so so disoriented [TS]

  yes so they had to get through the watch [TS]

  part they had 200 all the good they're [TS]

  giving Mario Mario is coming to to the [TS]

  to the iphone [TS]

  oh the little guy who runs around eight [TS]

  coins [TS]

  what's he gonna do there oh he's they [TS]

  brought out the guy who invented Mario [TS]

  Japanese fella came out [TS]

  yeah and he talked about the bringing [TS]

  Marcus a big deal because the the mario [TS]

  people have never make games for the [TS]

  iphone so that's a big deal so is Mario [TS]

  gonna be like the paperclip guy like I [TS]

  see you're writing attack that's a good [TS]

  idea you should capture that no he's [TS]

  gonna run around any coins and I guess [TS]

  he's gonna like date mushrooms or [TS]

  whatever he does and then they're also [TS]

  bring in the the pokemon go hunt in the [TS]

  watch [TS]

  that was the first hour what pokemon ya [TS]

  watch you gotta get watched you can [TS]

  catch you got cat small you can have [TS]

  some hatch the trainers and and then [TS]

  what else did the only thing they had a [TS]

  guy from nike come out and talk about [TS]

  the new co-branded I Apple watch they're [TS]

  doing with nike you want to get that [TS]

  that's a big deal be nike co-brand she's [TS]

  got her sisters supporting sort of sport [TS]

  band on it was very exciting this all [TS]

  sounds like exactly what Steve Jobs [TS]

  would do a little bit of co-branding a [TS]

  little bit of partnering is famous for [TS]

  partnering know what you think of Steve [TS]

  Jobs legacy oh yeah largely based on [TS]

  partnering oh sure yeah with other [TS]

  established brands ya doin one tiny [TS]

  partner he said it wasn't his daughter [TS]

  so you know um yeah so it was it was [TS]

  weird it was weird event it was very [TS]

  weird is good to have a good time we've [TS]

  got a couple good jokes in and I got a [TS]

  couple good mr. show jokes in the women [TS]

  were you there [TS]

  no gosh no I don't go two things I want [TS]

  to go to drinks tonight and tonight we [TS]

  got the potluck at the after school [TS]

  program so i gotta go to that but this [TS]

  was like a message board event for [TS]

  bringing sandwiches [TS]

  no I assume that the potluck the PTA [TS]

  potluck is a person thing you're [TS]

  required to be there [TS]

  oh yeah we're bringing lots of [TS]

  sandwiches but the apple event you were [TS]

  like commenting on somebody's a newsfeed [TS]

  sure it's something you've got what's [TS]

  called Twitter and reddit is this [TS]

  Twitter for these things and i was [TS]

  offered a good for you good for you [TS]

  that's healthy and I was watching on my [TS]

  apple TV & and that's where I watched it [TS]

  and made some chocolates were you were [TS]

  you like one of those guys in a in an [TS]

  early nineties internet movie where you [TS]

  had like six different digital devices [TS]

  are going at one something to do ok [TS]

  right Gregory yeah yeah don't click on [TS]

  that little pie icon [TS]

  haha its loading it's loading they're [TS]

  almost here the car though I love stuff [TS]

  like that almost loaded got you the [TS]

  other night because we watched Apollo 13 [TS]

  as a family and that was really fun [TS]

  that is fun yeah she was really we got [TS]

  to the last you know well into the end [TS]

  of the second act and she was like I [TS]

  know this turns out ok but I [TS]

  yeah it gets a really good movie space [TS]

  race was very Oh was never clear that it [TS]

  was gonna work out well you know and you [TS]

  gotta gotta go make the filter from the [TS]

  lymph it the filter from the the [TS]

  returnee thing you know [TS]

  did you see that some that just recently [TS]

  someone who found so a guy found the [TS]

  computers the the Apollo computers on a [TS]

  junk heap and he bought them at a scrap [TS]

  auction what he was like those look [TS]

  interesting i think this happened a long [TS]

  time [TS]

  oh my gosh however though this is like [TS]

  the BBC racing dr who that's so weird [TS]

  why would they not have this in a museum [TS]

  or something [TS]

  it's like the whole first half of the [TS]

  Carson show was all taped over to make [TS]

  like metamucil ads right like gasps [TS]

  efforts on commercials [TS]

  yeah yeah you you know that right there [TS]

  that from the earliest days of this the [TS]

  the Carson show until he realized it [TS]

  released soon they were taking care of [TS]

  that and turns out they weren't hehe one [TS]

  day he was like hey let's come up the [TS]

  reels from the that show I from 1970 or [TS]

  something and they were like call up the [TS]

  reels really used those wheels because [TS]

  right when state at me bc was the worst [TS]

  about this wasn't just doctor who but [TS]

  they did it with tons of stuff [TS]

  what's funny is i think i don't know a [TS]

  lot about this but I think in some ways [TS]

  there's a better archive based on a [TS]

  kinescope so what are called for you [TS]

  need to shoot a movie camera at a screen [TS]

  on a TV yeah the original the original [TS]

  pirating and and I think there's more [TS]

  stuff of you know the I Love Lucy [TS]

  honeymooners era then of some stuff for [TS]

  the late sixties that's bananas and that [TS]

  that's when Carson said alright i am [TS]

  taking over everything in my show all of [TS]

  you fuckers take a big step back and [TS]

  we're going to put every single tape [TS]

  that of all these shows in a salt mine [TS]

  somewhere in utah right he took complete [TS]

  control at that point because he had the [TS]

  power to be such an interesting kind [TS]

  everybody out of my office is basically [TS]

  oh um so yeah back to the back to this [TS]

  fascinating event [TS]

  yeah I'm Oh No week the the Apollo [TS]

  computers [TS]

  oh yeah right oh the computers right [TS]

  right so guy finds him by submitting [TS]

  auction just like you know what am I bid [TS]

  twenty dollars to have 22 sold and he [TS]

  keeps him around because he knows their [TS]

  thing and then just recently some hacker [TS]

  bro dug around found this guy found the [TS]

  computer's power to backup and [TS]

  downloaded the software and is now a [TS]

  capable and he says that this whole [TS]

  business about they send a man to the [TS]

  moon on a computer that as the computing [TS]

  power ups of the content of a digital [TS]

  image like them like a led watch like [TS]

  most thermostats probably are more [TS]

  sophisticated he said that is wrong and [TS]

  dumb these are actually really powerful [TS]

  computer that's interesting and he said [TS]

  these things are geniuses the the gene [TS]

  it's built genius style and they're [TS]

  they're awesome and he's this is just [TS]

  recently he's like running this machine [TS]

  or at least he pulled the software out [TS]

  of it and can see it and use it and and [TS]

  and that's that's yeah so we learn more [TS]

  about that that's super interesting well [TS]

  i think it's on the internet I look it [TS]

  out look out look at the Apollo guidance [TS]

  computer right now a ball guidance [TS]

  computer there it is because i make that [TS]

  stuff up too crazy too crazy right what [TS]

  else is out there [TS]

  what other dead sea scrolls are out [TS]

  there right right right [TS]

  somebody's gonna find and use fire [TS]

  starter until someone else says hey what [TS]

  are those firestop right not bad still [TS]

  comes up in are upset but it will just [TS]

  jump into part of each other in the [TS]

  kitchen go firestop like I was silly was [TS]

  a prodigy was the name of that band and [TS]

  you know the guide the singer guy with [TS]

  the five Mohawks he didn't even like [TS]

  that song really what was the other guy [TS]

  Oh Carole Bayer Sager yeah and [TS]

  the guy was one of those by billy corgan [TS]

  grouches oh interesting get super mad [TS]

  that the song that he was the genius of [TS]

  that band and then mr. crazy [TS]

  Kevin Roland or whatever but 550 heart [TS]

  that's sexist metro set seven nose rings [TS]

  yeah he's like international superstar [TS]

  alright it's basically a backup dancer [TS]

  that the genius guy said you know ya [TS]

  dance around a fire starter and then [TS]

  means a megastar and and genius dude is [TS]

  like cut out of the Starling know you [TS]

  makes me this is such that such a [TS]

  seventies movie that's terrible [TS]

  and so then he gets mad prodigy prodigy [TS]

  nice weather isn't it gets mad and he's [TS]

  already mad and all the photographs you [TS]

  see he's very mad and the thing is he's [TS]

  not very interesting-looking he's not [TS]

  nearly as interesting looking as has you [TS]

  know as the titular fuck starter as the [TS]

  firestarter [TS]

  yeah right Anna as Johnny Rotten right [TS]

  yeah I could not tell you what this [TS]

  guy's name is IRA maybe seem pretty [TS]

  silly and then I guess either either [TS]

  angry guy decided being pushed everybody [TS]

  to the side and was like I'm a lead [TS]

  singer from now on and then nobody [TS]

  wanted anymore [TS]

  prodigy or something else I stopped [TS]

  reading q magazine right around that [TS]

  same time so I didn't notice sure I [TS]

  thought I thought I knew stuff about the [TS]

  always and I think his name it looks [TS]

  like his name might be Keith Flint [TS]

  o'keefe that's right Keith he's a he's a [TS]

  dancer and vocalist in the band use the [TS]

  dancer in the one it says yes I think [TS]

  you might be so according to the members [TS]

  were originally Liam Howlett keyboardist [TS]

  and composer I think he's probably smart [TS]

  guy right smart he's the he's a sad [TS]

  Corgan in fact in any British pop act [TS]

  liam is the one that's doing the design [TS]

  demonic John yeah that's right in any [TS]

  British pop act right human brew ha ha [TS]

  leave it alone and mate so so here's the [TS]

  thing that creates a background hip so [TS]

  what what what did Keef was keeps job [TS]

  description okay so you got Leah mallet [TS]

  this is from wikipedia which is never [TS]

  wrong [TS]

  Liam Howlett was the keyboards and [TS]

  composer Keith Flint is a dancer and [TS]

  vocalist someone called maxim was an MC [TS]

  and vocalist and then Leroy with 2 e's [TS]

  thornhill was a dancer her educational [TS]

  live keyboardist oh I also had a female [TS]

  dancer and vocalist called sharky sharky [TS]

  how's Leroy and Sharky left the band for [TS]

  different reasons as you run down the [TS]

  list of their jobs you know in any [TS]

  situation where a person is described as [TS]

  vocalist in a band [TS]

  they have no contribution to the right [TS]

  to the right isn't that kind of a [TS]

  damning with faint praise that [TS]

  information you know you're not that you [TS]

  should definitely not the lead singer [TS]

  you're not even really a singer your [TS]

  vocalist vocalist I mean Linda McCartney [TS]

  was a vocalist right so these guys are [TS]

  dancers and vocalist bubbly and the only [TS]

  guided and then occasional sometime [TS]

  part-time live keyboard player sure and [TS]

  the and specifying that he's the live [TS]

  keyboard player just in case anybody [TS]

  thought for a second that he played a [TS]

  single mode on the right it's such a [TS]

  fuck you it's like oh you do you want to [TS]

  talk about 800 Leroy you mean the guy [TS]

  who is the occasional live keyboardist [TS]

  everyone's well yeah he would walk past [TS]

  keyboard and play one like he was one [TS]

  button which has probably been painted a [TS]

  different color so he could stake like [TS]

  hit the green key night time sequence at [TS]

  rigorous tests [TS]

  dance dance dance dance dance dance yeah [TS]

  you know this is the notices this is the [TS]

  British class system this is what we're [TS]

  seeing right here different braintree [TS]

  essex that's a much cooler name the [TS]

  prodigy braintree essex I've been to [TS]

  braintree and I hated the name braintree [TS]

  who I still do [TS]

  there's one in in Massachusetts and I [TS]

  don't like that one either to our [TS]

  battery out my the thing that I remember [TS]

  about braintree two things one the river [TS]

  that runs through braintree is full of [TS]

  shopping carts typical Lori's haha their [TS]

  torches valleys they called Charlie's [TS]

  that's it [TS]

  shopping trolleys trolley travels and [TS]

  the second thing i remember is that i [TS]

  bought a I bought a flat of strawberries [TS]

  on the heist [TS]

  meet 42 pounds and then went around the [TS]

  corner was British thing you've ever [TS]

  done flats drivers on the street for two [TS]

  pounds i went around the corner there [TS]

  was an identical flat of strawberries [TS]

  for one pound oh one block off the high [TS]

  street and I said you know what fuck [TS]

  braintree fuck this high street was [TS]

  about these particular strawberries [TS]

  yeah but that shopping cart river I'm [TS]

  gonna keep on keepin on [TS]

  how'd you get a name like braintree [TS]

  we've had sponsor on this was on this [TS]

  show I wasn't here but yeah they sure we [TS]

  have Braintree on here what is braintree [TS]

  mean in in essex here it means easy [TS]

  payment integration of a pal but i do [TS]

  have two bells my finger got me a bell [TS]

  their third apart there's a there's a [TS]

  bar here in Seattle called the two bells [TS]

  oh that's nice [TS]

  never beat these are the 13 points no no [TS]

  there's only two bells but there are 13 [TS]

  coins there are lights the two bells was [TS]

  where my former roommate who was doing [TS]

  work release at the time worked as a [TS]

  short-order cook he would go home at [TS]

  night to the jail [TS]

  slap it was great for me because he was [TS]

  no longer living in our house you still [TS]

  can read you still pay plus yes he was [TS]

  he was paying rent his stuff was all [TS]

  there but he socks but he wasn't around [TS]

  because she was he was spending the [TS]

  night in jail but many they let him out [TS]

  to go to work and then come back it was [TS]

  you know it just was one less guy but [TS]

  also the bad side was once guy could [TS]

  steal pot from the endless roommate that [TS]

  had pot in his dresser drawer that I can [TS]

  search for some reason I don't know this [TS]

  reminds me of a time in the nineties [TS]

  when we dropped off the Volvo wagon to [TS]

  be repaired this place has dropped it [TS]

  off this guy was king a good guy good [TS]

  mechanic and drop the car off and [TS]

  usually hear back you know that day with [TS]

  the estimate here but this is goodbye [TS]

  were calling nothing's going on nothing [TS]

  finally go they were like hey you know [TS]

  what's going on you know you know [TS]

  where's Jerry or whatever and where's [TS]

  Jerry about the first people to ask that [TS]

  yeah right no one ever asks how's Waldo [TS]

  the still in New Yorker cartoon but yeah [TS]

  we going there like yeah like where's [TS]

  Jerry and they're like um [TS]

  mhm [TS]

  Jerry is currently incarcerated for [TS]

  everything i love that phrase currently [TS]

  incarcerated want you know you think [TS]

  about now you see you just said ball [TS]

  though you save all lower bowl is a [TS]

  vulva volts in mulva oh no Mama is the [TS]

  assistant vice principal of my former [TS]

  high school [TS]

  malva no that was a different google [TS]

  we've talked about quite frankly ticket [TS]

  that um you see the crisp at that was [TS]

  Rick about em but you say ball though [TS]

  when the thing about a ball is you think [TS]

  this is a classy car [TS]

  this is you know in the english class [TS]

  system of Scandinavian cars this is this [TS]

  car went to Oxford or Cambridge or [TS]

  cambridge right [TS]

  oxbridge l8r tho whenever I see this has [TS]

  happened several times one of although [TS]

  mechanic gets sent to jail [TS]

  it always strikes me as stranger then if [TS]

  a Chevy or toyota mechanical this is one [TS]

  of those freakonomics type things yes [TS]

  right you hear you all the mechanicals [TS]

  know those guys are probably sitting at [TS]

  home making furniture the BMW guys that [TS]

  run in the jail [TS]

  that's right run the jail ok area back [TS]

  here there were gel in their hair and in [TS]

  prison they have to make you know [TS]

  homemade gel thought this boot but uh [TS]

  but in fact I mean one time many many [TS]

  years ago I was walking down the street [TS]

  in portland oregon and i came upon a [TS]

  Volvo which had been Tommy volvo coming [TS]

  through there I like a part of all of [TS]

  which had been low righted a lowrider [TS]

  Volvo and it was like that scene in [TS]

  bachelor party the movie where they will [TS]

  overwrite as I those to the Broadway [TS]

  play [TS]

  um oh my goodness there's a man you know [TS]

  in a in a vest knocking on the front [TS]

  door here [TS]

  oh no that's not good let's see let's [TS]

  see what this is this is the guy from [TS]

  his different mission control gently [TS]

  knocking with me Jean I'm gonna go to [TS]

  the door opening here [TS]

  hey how are you I'm well how are you [TS]

  I know you just sort of energy yes sir [TS]

  i'm just going to inspect your gas meter [TS]

  of course into extension which goes to [TS]

  the bar get it happen to know them on [TS]

  your problem i appreciate it thanks so [TS]

  much [TS]

  thank you good days Cheers he works for [TS]

  the gas company and how much how much [TS]

  that I heard it all I you should get on [TS]

  next door and report that well no he [TS]

  seems very official [TS]

  he said he sounded the Senate suave well [TS]

  he's very suave I i get the impression [TS]

  that he's Nigerian yeah awesome accent [TS]

  he did and he now is he was carrying a [TS]

  wand which I am presuming was a gas [TS]

  detection was gonna be out by the barn [TS]

  gonna be out by the barn checking the [TS]

  gas to make sure that it's not there's [TS]

  no slow leak you blew a great cinemax [TS]

  opportunity there by the way what was it [TS]

  nigeria with the launch as if you can't [TS]

  or eats a just be on your way [TS]

  haha wasn't okay with 16 to get vocal in [TS]

  the nigerian with the one shows up at my [TS]

  door i do not expect him to be wearing a [TS]

  reflective vest like the one that I'm [TS]

  really where is Prince is now that's [TS]

  he's wearing a robe of eldorado ha [TS]

  greetings uh I'm from the future haha on [TS]

  come with me now hit himself with a [TS]

  little brush to not to fly so three [TS]

  ladies behind him with throwing rose [TS]

  petals everywhere you want cake comes in [TS]

  dressed like a priest you cannot marry [TS]

  this girl [TS]

  decorative rocks to fuck with the with [TS]

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  volvo mechanics they give you any [TS]

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  watch [TS]

  do you have one already a watcher phone [TS]

  of watch on both i gotta watch your [TS]

  phone and iPad [TS]

  and I met so is there anything is there [TS]

  any better reason let me let me let me [TS]

  change that around is there anybody what [TS]

  better reason for me to have him i watch [TS]

  no no I mean no no youyou don't I mean [TS]

  you move in a grand mall fashion but I [TS]

  don't know if you do enough atomic [TS]

  movement to really make it worth your [TS]

  while I'm moving mysterious ways [TS]

  that's true you're located like a you to [TS]

  hit and you are you know you go right [TS]

  through right through security that [TS]

  that's good you know the new iphones [TS]

  amazing it's gonna be great [TS]

  they're not gonna be bananas so now um [TS]

  let me ask you this [TS]

  yeah you there you see it there in the [TS]

  turban you there in the velvet rope so I [TS]

  have I I think I recounted on this [TS]

  podcast that I i was carrying around a [TS]

  broken iphone 5s and one time I came to [TS]

  san francisco i could not arrange a [TS]

  meeting like you you didn't have any [TS]

  opportunity for me to get an audience [TS]

  with you [TS]

  who and so I had a tweetup that's right [TS]

  you did and cleanup man and a young man [TS]

  came to the tweetup and everyone at the [TS]

  table remarked on my screwed-up phone [TS]

  and how it embarrassing it was because i [TS]

  do a tech podcast with Merlin Mann and I [TS]

  should have a good iphone literally [TS]

  state-of-the-art I'm like a tech I'm [TS]

  kind of a tech guy right off like a like [TS]

  a tech celeb yeah you're like a an [TS]

  occasional live keyboardist attack [TS]

  yeah that's right on vocals the dancer [TS]

  vocalist dancer I'm a dancer not a Whore [TS]

  the answer i only want to be a dancer I [TS]

  and I'm sitting there at the table and [TS]

  he's like oh I mean leans over to his [TS]

  wife or fiance and he says honey give [TS]

  him that iphone and his wife says what i [TS]

  use that as my camera and he says she's [TS]

  an Android developer [TS]

  she just took my old iphone because wink [TS]

  wink [TS]

  it's a better camera or something like [TS]

  that [TS]

  no no no when he said no I'm [TS]

  misunderstanding you know English is a [TS]

  complicated language he was saying [TS]

  literally gives John your iphone and she [TS]

  digs in her purse pulls out this iphone [TS]

  and he says it's my iphone i gave it to [TS]

  you and she says yeah but i'm using it [TS]

  as a camera he said duke he said well no [TS]

  he was being very he was being very [TS]

  generous because he keeps saying keep [TS]

  saying we're developer at the last time [TS]

  you meet this guy he makes his feet say [TS]

  give you something he gave her baby does [TS]

  it five times a day he would be his [TS]

  point was i am being yeah i think when i [TS]

  was reading between she's an Android [TS]

  developer she shouldn't even have an [TS]

  iphone sure this was a business church [TS]

  and state this was a violation of some [TS]

  she's on her and casting pearls before [TS]

  swine exam people beep on yea what [TS]

  you're bringing stuff over here and yet [TS]

  you want to you want my iphone because [TS]

  it's a better media / want my iphone [TS]

  yeah so he was like fork it over and I'm [TS]

  like hey look this is you know my name [TS]

  is Paul and mrs. between y'all who write [TS]

  like I don't want to [TS]

  I didn't ask for i didn't ask to be part [TS]

  of this drug who and he's like no know [TS]

  who I want you to have this it's you [TS]

  know it's my it's a great my gift to you [TS]

  and we'll work this out this is pillow [TS]

  talk between us right where web [TS]

  developers you have no idea what it's [TS]

  like to be it's like to lead vocalists [TS]

  and birds two vocalists and dancers [TS]

  yeah married like who's writing the [TS]

  ticket to the occasional live keyboard [TS]

  is not enough composers so in he's ibiza [TS]

  Mac Developer she's an Android developer [TS]

  he's like we're gonna work this out [TS]

  don't you worry about he slides this [TS]

  iphone over to me I'm like when [TS]

  everybody tables like this is a big move [TS]

  like this [TS]

  he's like I got 20 of these might look [TS]

  yeah there's a baller move is a big [TS]

  player yeah well it took me [TS]

  two-and-a-half weeks to figure out how [TS]

  to unlock the goddamn [TS]

  who had to get it and go down to the [TS]

  apple store for some friends there [TS]

  because i'm kind of a tech kind of a [TS]

  wheel you know yeah absolutely [TS]

  anyway so now i have an iphone 6 it's [TS]

  not an iphone 6s mine [TS]

  that's good phone iphone sex except for [TS]

  how slippery Diaz well but I put a [TS]

  little case on it and this case says [TS]

  junior firefighter burien Normandy Park [TS]

  Fire Department huh [TS]

  and it keeps the food is not very [TS]

  slippery now okay guys we're so now [TS]

  let's say I'm a person who wants to pay [TS]

  nine hundred dollars for a new phone [TS]

  just AT&T no longer offers the old deals [TS]

  sell me on the iphone 7 l available that [TS]

  will be a lot better [TS]

  ok things if you if you go to a store [TS]

  here's the thing oh if you're all [TS]

  batteries die if you have a battery in [TS]

  your that's two-year-old phone [TS]

  men must die yes yes normally out of it [TS]

  and if you go in and get the exact self [TS]

  same phone [TS]

  exactly that's brand-new the batteries [TS]

  can be so much better that is that plus [TS]

  some of the thick [TS]

  oh yeah but I'm trying to say is the [TS]

  first thing that you'll notice which is [TS]

  just a natural consequence of physics in [TS]

  life is that the battery better its [TS]

  but-but-but tons faster like crazy [TS]

  faster it's got an insane camera on it [TS]

  it is waterproof for water resistant to [TS]

  many meters also you don't have an ipad [TS]

  to my knowledge to you [TS]

  so my ipad was stolen as in the great [TS]

  case oh the caper and then it was [TS]

  returned by the by the written police [TS]

  department that doctor dr. Yamaguchi em [TS]

  now I have it but somehow in the somehow [TS]

  my tenuous connection to it as a media [TS]

  device in first place which was always [TS]

  like I'm watching something on my phone [TS]

  and that and i'm i'm essentially keeping [TS]

  my coffee is sitting on my ID [TS]

  dad i'm watching this thing I watching a [TS]

  film on my phone and I go don't have a [TS]

  another way to watch [TS]

  oh i do that's a good sign the ipad may [TS]

  not be for you if you find yourself [TS]

  having to go and that this distance is [TS]

  not tech talk without tech talk but i [TS]

  will say that like if you have to see if [TS]

  you find yourself saying that grown i [TS]

  should go use that thing I've got that [TS]

  may not be a good [TS]

  this is why I say now here i'll say this [TS]

  if you were to come into some money [TS]

  God love you yeah i did spend it anyway [TS]

  fingers crossed goon that's generally [TS]

  what Germans do that come into money got [TS]

  that money scheisse [TS]

  yeah that's cool it's just that my [TS]

  daughter doesn't shy semana I if you [TS]

  came into some money I'd say it's good [TS]

  and i'll tell you why i like my lady [TS]

  friend her phone until two days ago she [TS]

  loved very much the bigger iphone is for [TS]

  someone like you is not an ipad user you [TS]

  might really like it also your big man [TS]

  big pockets you can handle it but here's [TS]

  the thing with that [TS]

  yeah you know my lady friend mhm [TS]

  it works in the tech industry yeah also [TS]

  is true [TS]

  sure she she's also a millennium and [TS]

  she's going to snapchat yeah well she's [TS]

  yeah I get snapchats all the time now [TS]

  but I don't know what to do with them [TS]

  smile like I have a little animal [TS]

  oh they're on my lap time is called [TS]

  snapchats you afraid of that kind of [TS]

  print about them it slowly lower your [TS]

  glasses but the end of your neck that's [TS]

  it seems like she's having having having [TS]

  some kind of a breakfast here [TS]

  that's terrific but we don't got Jack [TS]

  and oh what kind of give the gala call [TS]

  forever [TS]

  ah so she said to me and this is Right [TS]

  circa when I got the iphone 6 from the [TS]

  very nice man at the tweetup who right [TS]

  before that I was thinking okay the new [TS]

  world order is that apparently now you [TS]

  pay nine hundred dollars for an iphone [TS]

  listen if you are listening to this [TS]

  program and you are thinking about [TS]

  tweeting or emailing me all the [TS]

  multifarious different contracts i could [TS]

  have signed yeah [TS]

  in order to get in mind hundred-dollar [TS]

  iphone four hundred are ya [TS]

  my mother away yeah my way of calling [TS]

  not another dollar is there a place [TS]

  where you particularly people to send [TS]

  that i would i would like you to send it [TS]

  to info @ @ dot Roderick dot [TS]

  com mand any town USA 12345 and I'm so i [TS]

  was thing I'm a pic I got big pockets [TS]

  using strong like bull [TS]

  I want the big iphone I'm gonna hold [TS]

  that in my hand I see I look around I [TS]

  see people with them all over the place [TS]

  oh yeah sure sure [TS]

  and she said don't you dare get the big [TS]

  iphone i simply what do you mean she [TS]

  said you might as well you might as well [TS]

  be wearing a tracksuit like the bigger [TS]

  iphone what is for squares like no one [TS]

  in that within the cool kid [TS]

  yeah yeah you want the smallest iphone [TS]

  you can you know what some big TV and I [TS]

  said listen I'm not some millennium I'm [TS]

  gonna get the iphone that suits me [TS]

  I'm gonna get the iphone then I like it [TS]

  and maybe it's gonna be one that is [TS]

  bigger than the than the the initial [TS]

  television sets of 1948 where I want one [TS]

  that I can watch an entire film i want [TS]

  one where I'm going to look at other [TS]

  peoples instagrams and be able to see [TS]

  what the picture is about [TS]

  that's right don't don't discount the [TS]

  eye thing that she said if you get the [TS]

  big iphone i will not be seen with you [TS]

  hold dear [TS]

  she's really really dropped the gauntlet [TS]

  and so then I was in a position where i [TS]

  was like em too which is more important [TS]

  to me that I'd seen in public with my [TS]

  girlfriend okay or that i'd be able to [TS]

  see people's instinct do you value the [TS]

  private or the public aspect more [TS]

  that's right five things at five [TS]

  breakups only a millennium can [TS]

  understand uh-huh that's right and who [TS]

  did you friend last who your friend who [TS]

  the person new friends at last friend [TS]

  last [TS]

  I think I thought that's what I want to [TS]

  know so I thought about it I was in the [TS]

  middle of thinking about it when I went [TS]

  to this tweet up and i say i went to the [TS]

  tweetup but it was I who called the [TS]

  tweet you host it [TS]

  I hope stood between who um and identity [TS]

  then this iphone 6 came out of a nice [TS]

  woman's purse and when sliding a nice [TS]

  android-developers person when sliding [TS]

  across the table to me and i was [TS]

  suddenly at the the problem I didn't [TS]

  have to think about it anymore [TS]

  nice i didn't have to choose the big [TS]

  iphone because an iphone chose me [TS]

  that's nice like a lawn that's nice but [TS]

  now looking into my future I think [TS]

  iphone 7 [TS]

  well there I mean ah I just submit this [TS]

  without comment that it's gonna be very [TS]

  costly but I'm gonna go on and down you [TS]

  know the thing is you can use it for a [TS]

  while so you might as well get one this [TS]

  one you can drop in the bathtub and [TS]

  you're good to go [TS]

  that's nice you know so it's more than [TS]

  900 dog [TS]

  well it depends if you buy it outright [TS]

  and you buy one that's worth getting in [TS]

  having for a while yeah it's like it's [TS]

  going to be around a thousand bucks or [TS]

  you know you go get a plan with a place [TS]

  and wireless plan and nerve share [TS]

  30 caps Blair no thanks [TS]

  possible possible possible you go into a [TS]

  store you go into an over-limit store [TS]

  where someone in a branded polo sure God [TS]

  Guam's onto you like a fucking this [TS]

  until just be sweet Neil's like Calamity [TS]

  Jane we wanted how many years can we [TS]

  speak to you today about the insurance [TS]

  that's right because i want the [TS]

  insurance I'm not an animal 24 years old [TS]

  I'm between you i am the gatekeeper [TS]

  between you and other people's [TS]

  instagrams [TS]

  well I i would say see I missed the end [TS]

  I was getting really bored i forgot come [TS]

  and start recording with you early i [TS]

  would go to when available in store [TS]

  which I imagine will be soon i don't [TS]

  know i was going to look at see what the [TS]

  hand feels like minute hand feel is a [TS]

  big part of it [TS]

  Apple has done the thing and we all know [TS]

  this and they've done it now for for [TS]

  more than a decade a decade-and-a-half [TS]

  let's call it [TS]

  this is just gonna be about the cords [TS]

  again no no okay i will talk about the [TS]

  cord know what did they provided this [TS]

  cable with the phone and now they expect [TS]

  you to buy all new cables [TS]

  yeah yeah but anyway I'm not gonna talk [TS]

  about that at least in the iphone 7 [TS]

  they're still using the last iteration [TS]

  of the cable / huh [TS]

  um although they have now eliminated the [TS]

  one thing that you could connect to [TS]

  their devices with from the analog but [TS]

  in any case which is a which as I say it [TS]

  I realized is one of my catchphrases [TS]

  yeah they sent me stop talking really [TS]

  uh-huh [TS]

  apple for 15 years has been making [TS]

  things that you cannot not get yeah it's [TS]

  just feel that way yeah I tied myself to [TS]

  them [TS]

  I you know I buckled myself around the [TS]

  next to apple back in two thousand let's [TS]

  call it i think it was probably about [TS]

  two thousand four when we went to the [TS]

  ucsf computer store from which our shows [TS]

  image is derived was the 2004-2005 2004 [TS]

  you've got yourself one of those uh [TS]

  white to ibooks I got a white ibook her [TS]

  up but I had I was not referring to see [TS]

  one the other one the square was pretty [TS]

  is a pretty computer it was a beautiful [TS]

  computer and I lost that computer in [TS]

  Chile did it was it was shoplifting out [TS]

  of my bag I and I wasn't even in the [TS]

  shop I was cafe lifted out of my bag [TS]

  oh that's not cricket now in a town in [TS]

  the in northern Chile and i'm still I'm [TS]

  still mad about it i hoped i wish pox [TS]

  upon the house of the person hope they [TS]

  choke on it [TS]

  yeah because it was a nice computer and [TS]

  and I assume that i would still be it [TS]

  would still be running ios6 and i would [TS]

  still be [TS]

  but this is your regular it was it's [TS]

  easily been four years since I stopped [TS]

  caring whether you're actually kidding [TS]

  and I just I just ride the wave now [TS]

  enjoy it [TS]

  yeah but but even before the white [TS]

  laptop i had and i was invested in the [TS]

  one of the towers a blue tower oj that [TS]

  was really the blue light one blue and [TS]

  white time you can meet Rock I had that [TS]

  same computer wasn't that a nice those [TS]

  the 73 know the g3 that person anymore [TS]

  that was running like iOS to oh my god [TS]

  my foot who's running that was running [TS]

  it was a thing where i went and bought [TS]

  some recording software and the [TS]

  recording software required that I have [TS]

  a piece that I have a board put into the [TS]

  town only getting bored and that's what [TS]

  you buy at our community boards in it [TS]

  that's right and so I so sup the tower [TS]

  myself and put the board for my [TS]

  recording software in there [TS]

  jiminy Christmas this was a big time [TS]

  movie but then then the thing is not a [TS]

  thing that you can just sell because [TS]

  it's got your own for you personalize it [TS]

  with your own stuff that you're born [TS]

  into that board now is worth zero [TS]

  dollars it's worth less than two [TS]

  well yeah um so I was kid I was attached [TS]

  to these guys now you say to me Oh go [TS]

  into the store and see if you like the [TS]

  feel of it will of course I'm going to [TS]

  the store and you see if this thing is [TS]

  usable of course it's I don't try to be [TS]

  rational about this and go and only real [TS]

  just doop de doop [TS]

  no I wanted and I get everyone's well [TS]

  somebody on on the internet will save [TS]

  some song and I just stopped listening [TS]

  because i'm a member of this religion [TS]

  but you know where they also remember [TS]

  from a practical basis i mean it said [TS]

  that's funny and true but you're also [TS]

  part of that ecosystem it's like that [TS]

  stuff kind of makes sense to you and the [TS]

  ecosystem such as it is it's as much as [TS]

  it's like what is whoever Mark Twain and [TS]

  democracy you know it's like all the [TS]

  other ones shittier yeah that was [TS]

  Abraham Lincoln but yes all you sure [TS]

  about that at all the other ones are [TS]

  skinnier Abraham Lincoln upton sinclair [TS]

  I felt like yeah Robert rabbit rest [TS]

  yes sure it felt like when I went into [TS]

  the store the last time that I was so [TS]

  yield to this universe this ecosystem if [TS]

  you will [TS]

  I was I was like one of those New Yorker [TS]

  cartoons where two guys are hanging by [TS]

  shackles with long periods and look it [TS]

  get a cell its introduction and somebody [TS]

  else then one of them said there are [TS]

  15,000 bricks in myself and I've counted [TS]

  them all and the other one said have you [TS]

  named them yet [TS]

  I was like yeah that's my life Yeah [TS]

  right there [TS]

  apple and they can do whatever they want [TS]

  with me they take away the black [TS]

  turtlenecks they put people in kinkos [TS]

  shirts and they're telling me they're [TS]

  partnering with with your meeting with [TS]

  pokemon they poked with a partner with [TS]

  that with Mario partner with mario gold [TS]

  bar air who and like like Phil sent me [TS]

  an email the other day a Smokey the Bear [TS]

  watch it was like what I don't usually [TS]

  open their emails but I open this one [TS]

  say who and there was a watch that's a [TS]

  filthy little watch made by be shinola [TS]

  company can shinola is a brand-new the [TS]

  olden times they literally bought the [TS]

  name of the shoe polish company to [TS]

  inmate watches [TS]

  yeah they bought him some some hipsters [TS]

  a fifty-year-old hipster I mean this [TS]

  happened like I think that's probably [TS]

  happened during your daughter's life [TS]

  time this is not this is not an old [TS]

  brand in the last five years yeah it's [TS]

  about matters worse [TS]

  it says shinola circuit and 1912 sure [TS]

  there's macklemore's making watches it [TS]

  and then the watch costs a thousand [TS]

  dollars but now but now in in it in a [TS]

  triple brand in the hat trick of [TS]

  branding and it's got a Smokey the Bear [TS]

  shinola has put a smokey the bear face [TS]

  on the filson watch to commemorate the [TS]

  national parks now that's that's that's [TS]

  that's a nice gesture and this is a [TS]

  business so this is a watch for a [TS]

  thousand dollars by giving us two [TS]

  schools probably mmm I don't think [TS]

  they're giving them away [TS]

  ok i looked at it and and gosh darn it [TS]

  if that little smokey the bear face [TS]

  wasn't somewhat enticing to he's like [TS]

  part of our childhood i watch with [TS]

  smokey on it please you only you only [TS]

  you who [TS]

  and I but then I realized that I was [TS]

  being manipulated [TS]

  yeah and you know they might as well put [TS]

  mr. your face on it they put mr. your [TS]

  content API would be that what i would [TS]

  have been upstairs in my shoebox captain [TS]

  out my silver dollar only you only [TS]

  believe something you can prevent your [TS]

  face [TS]

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