Roderick on the Line

00:00:00 ◼   ► hello hi John [TS]

00:00:07 ◼   ► hi Merlin how's it going well i'm proud [TS]

00:00:15 ◼   ► to be an American who huh oh well at [TS]

00:00:18 ◼   ► least I know I'm free [TS]

00:00:19 ◼   ► oh no I like that song i'm proud to live [TS]

00:00:23 ◼   ► in the land i love and that gave its [TS]

00:00:25 ◼   ► life for me was that I guess I don't [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► have all the lyrics that's pretty good [TS]

00:00:29 ◼   ► song [TS]

00:00:31 ◼   ► yeah it had it came under fire a lot [TS]

00:00:33 ◼   ► well I'm trying to you know get away [TS]

00:00:35 ◼   ► from the way to generate criticism or [TS]

00:00:37 ◼   ► whatever how it got used but I i like [TS]

00:00:39 ◼   ► the like the tune the tone the tune the [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► tone i feel like it's been helpful as [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► they got a lot of crazy names today I [TS]

00:00:49 ◼   ► feel like that came under fire just like [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► just like the man who composed well how [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► I'm trying to say is like the I mean the [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► there's the famous line from the song [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► but there's a reason we sing that line [TS]

00:01:01 ◼   ► and it's because it's really catchy it's [TS]

00:01:04 ◼   ► not what you expect in a chorus it's [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► hooky well and what it does is I i I'm [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► tired i mean i don't have the song front [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► of me I don't have a guitar but I feel [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► like it starts on the one chord let me [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► ask you if you did have a guitar right [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► now would you be capable of playing it I [TS]

00:01:21 ◼   ► haven't been used to be restoring no no [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► I don't mean would you be capable of [TS]

00:01:26 ◼   ► playing the guitar but would you be able [TS]

00:01:28 ◼   ► to play i'm proud to be an American is [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► it a song with in your repertoire now [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► but you know how it is when you do [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► enough like playing well we've talked [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► endlessly about playing along with [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► records and how you get a feel in your [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► hands for like when it's 24 and when [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► it's 250 you know that feeling your [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► hands if you like you know what I mean [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► oh right yeah it's like the feeling of [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► victory [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► mmm the green one in the morning [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► Thank You 105 but I feel like I feel [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► like it's probably like a pretty much [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► like a one-in-four kind of cadence for [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► most of it's not it's not super [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► interesting but the arrangement and the [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► fact that it starts on that ago i'm [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► proud to be an American [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► it's it's just a it's very catchy catchy [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► tone yeah [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► it is the day's cachito yeah but that's [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► how I am I'm that's I'm that proud [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► oh that's nice yeah yeah i think i am [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► too good [TS]

00:02:25 ◼   ► yeah well let's start off this show with [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► some American pride did you get tickets [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► to the private property lose em coming [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► up on four minutes after the hour we're [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► going to talk about pride pride pride is [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► a it's a front topic it is you know it's [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► one of the seven deadly sins is that [TS]

00:02:46 ◼   ► right yeah [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► pride goeth before a fall huh [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► Oh actually was a technically I think [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► it's pride goeth before destruction and [TS]

00:02:55 ◼   ► a haughty spirit before a fall [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► is that right yeah i think it's Romans [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► uh so why do I have it was just a [TS]

00:03:03 ◼   ► condensation of of that it's sort of [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► like a maid the trains run on time type [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► situation I think we just trying to [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► explain that and every time I try to [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► explain that anecdote that you told I I [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► don't tell it with the ferocity and [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► clarity that you do because it it filled [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► me with so much joy it's so great but [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► it's like explaining a pun [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► yeah it's like going to go see if I said [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► you had a beautiful body would you hold [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► it against me see it's a double entendre [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► yes see that they were actually saying [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► that he made the trains run on time [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► it's that now we know that way if you [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► give me that obviously believe me [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► yeah absolutely I I that anecdote made [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► me cry when I first heard it and then it [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► made me cry when I retold it and it was [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► it was one of those things like a like [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► you know that you hear something to make [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► you cry man here again it makes you [TS]

00:04:00 ◼   ► crying [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► there were there were three or four [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► three or four times that I told that [TS]

00:04:07 ◼   ► story a where it made me cry before I [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► finally like got right when we got like [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► tempered two questions first of all we [TS]

00:04:17 ◼   ► were crying in different ways and second [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► is your daughter there no now was I [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► crying in different ways no my [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► daughter's you can take the first [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► question first [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► was I crying in different ways yes I [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► mean I was crying with like i was i was [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► crying tears of joy at the ludicrous [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► business of of humanity [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► I mean it just seemed like it was an [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► anecdote that made me that just that [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► just said so much it's spelled so much [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► it's in line with that the reason i [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► think one reason to keep conflating our [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► getting it wrong in thinking it was [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► Stalin is it's very much in line with [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► that classic black russian sense of [TS]

00:04:59 ◼   ► humor [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► yeah you know what I mean we talked we [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► talked about this but there it's so in [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► line with that it's like it's such a [TS]

00:05:04 ◼   ► perfect instance of that kind of black [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► humor [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► yeah then and and yet I and I don't know [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► it just makes so much sense it so it's [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► so hilarious [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► I i am i've been out of coffee [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► Oh to get out of coffee [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► well see this is the thing I don't worry [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► my toilet paper on amazon prime [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► ok I wait that's not i'm sorry that [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► sounded like it don't take the hit you [TS]

00:05:33 ◼   ► know that's what I can get your attitude [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► copy but surely look at me she was a big [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► ok something like the logicians might [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► call that a non sequitur but what if you [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► know just a little dislocated [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► no I where I had to go to the bathroom I [TS]

00:05:49 ◼   ► go I don't shop very well or often and I [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► don't here's the thing [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► Oh generally i get my coffee for free [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► because it's in a swag bags [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► oh yeah right right like anymore if i go [TS]

00:06:10 ◼   ► to an event there they give you a pound [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► of coffee and a pair of like cheap [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► sunglasses and whatever it is indeed a [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► USB Drive ever John I I i have a few of [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► them hanging on the doorknob right in [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► in view of where I'm sitting I can see [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► like four USB drives hanging on lanyards [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► but yeah pound copy is typically the [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► gift that you give someone that you're [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► not paying very well that if they come [TS]

00:06:41 ◼   ► to to be part of your presentation and [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► so I usually wait around until I'm [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► invited to something like that I get my [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► pound of coffee and then there's always [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► another pound of coffee laying around [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► that somebody didn't want that at the [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► end of the at the end of the event when [TS]

00:07:00 ◼   ► I'm the last person to leave the [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► dressing room like numbers that pound of [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► coffee right and then somebody typically [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► there are a couple of things that were [TS]

00:07:08 ◼   ► they give you a pound of coffee and a [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► bottle of wine and I usually stand in [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► the middle of the room at events like [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► that and I say trade my bottle of wine [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► for a pound of coffee LOL sounds all [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► trading places everybody yeah i'll tap [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► tonight so somebody's like what what [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► and so so I'll typically come home from [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► an event like that with with the with [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► the patio but you know bag of coffee [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► like a I'm sorry a bag of bags of coffee [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► and that will you know part of me along [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► until the next event so but I had run [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► out so this could also be a lot of the [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► bellwether that maybe you should do more [TS]

00:07:46 ◼   ► events exactly right i was thinking that [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► same thing like wait a minute i haven't [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► been to Portland in a month and a half [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► and then portland is famous for this [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► movie i'll give you up a pound of coffee [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► you know just for showing up a bridal [TS]

00:08:02 ◼   ► shower huh [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► no I've never been to a bridal shower [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► i'm not invited to this but anyway so go [TS]

00:08:08 ◼   ► ahead you're about to say something [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► no I just did coffees one of those [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► things that I really trying not to run [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► out of ya is one of those things like I [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► mean the obvious once you get your [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► toilet paper and paper towels and your [TS]

00:08:21 ◼   ► whatnots or your you know milk for the [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► kid that I i usually have one in the [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► chamber you don't want to run out of [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► what not especially you heard that [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► phrase three is 22 is one and one is [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► none [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► it seems like it's sort of good [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► schenectady to the phrase one boy can do [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► the work of one boy two boys can do the [TS]

00:08:41 ◼   ► work of half a boy and three boys do no [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► work at all [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► that's terrific mmm that's so good i got [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► some grandfather shit right now i think [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► that the phrase that I was citing is I [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► think it comes from the world of [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► material like you know you're the what [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► is it sergeant sale or whatever like you [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► you're that you're the supply person [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► sure and I learned about it you're [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► serian yeah right yes Aaron I learned [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► about it from the Pakistan videographer [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► cgpgrey whose videos I think you've seen [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► and and he says that when you have [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► important things in your life that it's [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► an excellent principal and something's [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► really it's really stuck in my head [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► because that the idea being that too is [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► 11 0 and 0 is negative 1 right [TS]

00:09:25 ◼   ► yeah 322 is one is none and if you think [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► about it in terms of let's say you've [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► got you've got deployed like you got a [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► base somewhere and if you have the [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► moonbase well I could be yeah sure you [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► more than ever more than ever in that [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► case but let's say you've got I don't [TS]

00:09:40 ◼   ► know arbitrary let's see about three [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► generators that are available to like [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► run the unit need this one generator [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► well you have to basically act like that [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► one generator is broken because it once [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► it's broken you really only you won't [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► have three anymore you have to you have [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► to ensure this gets dead so to get to [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► the bottom of the stack it to one is [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► none which means that once you have one [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► bag of coffee left you essentially have [TS]

00:10:01 ◼   ► no coffee left sure you're screwed well [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► just from a supply standpoint I is it [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► you know it's sticky saying I like yours [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► too about the boys that's good [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► well this is what this is why i always [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► think uh I always think in increments of [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► four million dollars interesting because [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► if you had four million dollars and this [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► applies to four hundred dollars but I [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► like to think of it in terms of four [TS]

00:10:24 ◼   ► million dollars because my daydream who [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► write yeah but you have four million [TS]

00:10:29 ◼   ► dollars you put two million dollars [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► immediately somewhere that you can't get [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► it he put it [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► somebody put into bonds or you put it [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► give to barry bonds he you do something [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► with two million of it half of it where [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► it immediately goes away [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► into some special place where you [TS]

00:10:47 ◼   ► stopped but mostly in a special [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► unattainable money whole unattainable [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► money hole but but in particular you do [TS]

00:10:53 ◼   ► that only so that you stop thinking [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► about it as belonging to you to my [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► daughters gone so now you have two [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► million dollars ok so now forced to for [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► us to exactly and then with the two [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► million dollars then you divide the 2 [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► million dollars so that 1 million [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► dollars is in it you still think of it [TS]

00:11:12 ◼   ► as belonging to you as being like [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► accessible money but it's in it very [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► difficult to play it's like in savings [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► its deeper there's little deeper levels [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► you put a million dollars into like deep [TS]

00:11:25 ◼   ► freeze it's not all the way into I don't [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► miss any more in your mind but it's in [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► free floors 22 is 12 as one and now [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► within one then you start having you [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► know then you start having the one and [TS]

00:11:39 ◼   ► into i guess i would put it into thirds [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► right one-third is what you're living on [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► one third is your money and one-third is [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► your money that you are thinking about [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► what i'm going to do with this money and [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► then one third of that you find a way to [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► give it away [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► wow you should write an e-book is that [TS]

00:12:04 ◼   ► does that is that ebook level of of like [TS]

00:12:08 ◼   ► think think technology is just my [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► opinion [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► I'll tell you why because it's not an [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► idea that really needs like a 300-page [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► book or like a whole like blu-ray like [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► that is it's a larger than pamphlet [TS]

00:12:20 ◼   ► sized idea it's a family fun pop it's a [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► pamphlet sized idea but the [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► implementation of that idea is like [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► really that's where the texture is and [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► and but you wouldn't necessarily put on [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► something to Waldenbooks because i don't [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► think they have all the books anymore i [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► don't suppose we're going to sell your [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► gold where those Christopher Walken [TS]

00:12:36 ◼   ► walking accept that this is it gets [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► guide has been on my ass or did they [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► only sell throw not anything that's [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► hardly a courtesy lab Maya [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► but ah so I my mom a frequent character [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► on this podcast my mom said you're out [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► of coffee [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► she came by the house you're out of [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► coffee she said yeah I know she said [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► bartels which is our locally owned [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► drugstore chain here [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► yeah she said bartels has a sale on [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► coffee [TS]

00:13:18 ◼   ► it's like 499 a pound for a brand of [TS]

00:13:23 ◼   ► coffee that's pretty darn good [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► that's pretty good and I was like whoa [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► that's pretty good and she said you want [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► me to get you something I said yeah she [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► said well I can't go to my bar towels [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► because i already got i already use the [TS]

00:13:35 ◼   ► coupon I OIC she got to wear a fake [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► mustache or something yeah that's right [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► they all know me there but i can find [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► another coupon and go to go to a [TS]

00:13:44 ◼   ► different bar tells its it's starting to [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► sound like a like a little bit of a [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► george costanza move now uh huh [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► she's gonna go to a different bar tells [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► and and get me get me some you know get [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► max out the coupon for four pounds of [TS]

00:13:59 ◼   ► coffee this is the folgers no no its [TS]

00:14:01 ◼   ► like a this is a this is the tight [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► this is beans to bag of beans out of 10 [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► that's it that's a very good deal where [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► your deal and it's you know and it's a [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► brand you recognize but they're not [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► advertising on our podcast so why would [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► I give them or a light totally agree [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► you know what i mean i'd say that you [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► know what you mean do you remember a [TS]

00:14:20 ◼   ► time when people were taping over the [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► name taping over the word fender on [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► their stratocaster because they because [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► they didn't want to be didn't want to [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► advertise yea yea or their amps and you [TS]

00:14:36 ◼   ► see you still see it in TV shows a lot [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► we're in order to show reality you want [TS]

00:14:41 ◼   ► to show everybody using either an apple [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► or Adele usually guess what people use [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► for laptops but an apple laptop is very [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► distinctive not least because it has a [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► large apple on it and so you'll see [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► people putting putting stickers and [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► whatnot on there i mean i've been asked [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► to cover my apple on a video on video [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► things yes I've definitely been told to [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► turn my water bottle in my hand during a [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► photoshoot [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► oh so they don't see that you're an [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► Aquafina man not a dishonest man that's [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► right well you can tell him out of the [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► Sami man just by looking at I want to [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► circle back to that because I got some I [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► got some updated thoughts on dasani ok [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► but the world isn't so so let's see 3321 [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► coffee mom's gonna go to bartells she's [TS]

00:15:20 ◼   ► going to scare up another coupon right [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► and it [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► mm well so wait I jumped ahead i'm sorry [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► ok let's let's let's go back we don't [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► know if mom has done that or not [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► ok it in the timeline of the stylet it [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► out then i go to a wedding i went to a [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► wedding this weekend where every person [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► at the wedding [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► waiting for them at the dinner table was [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► a coffee mug with the with the emblem of [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► the wedding party has its own kind [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► little mark wedding party had their own [TS]

00:15:51 ◼   ► brand or their own watermark who and [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► it's on the coffee mug is delightful [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► little thing and then within the coffee [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► mug kind of set in the in the mug at a [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► jaunty angle is a pound of coffee [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► nice a pound of good coffee mm when I [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► walk thing its wedding coffee so I walk [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► in there's 200 people at this dinner and [TS]

00:16:13 ◼   ► I survey the room and I'm like they're [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► 200 coffee mugs and 200 pounds of coffee [TS]

00:16:18 ◼   ► in this room and I know for a fact and [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► I'm one of the groomsmen [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► oh my gosh so I'm there early and I know [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► I'm going to be there late and I know [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► there's going to be some rogue coffee [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► bag you know people are going to you [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► John you know how this works first of [TS]

00:16:33 ◼   ► all you're in a position of extreme [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► privilege and in a good way you should [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► be allowed i think is in the Magna Carta [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► I think you're allowed to go up and [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► basically get people's coffee [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► here's the other thing a lot of people [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► are going to some drinks they're going [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► to take off the shoes to get a dance and [TS]

00:16:46 ◼   ► they're going to leave without [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► remembering to take the coffee [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► that's right and you just you just sit [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► there like a crow on a wire just waiting [TS]

00:16:53 ◼   ► and watching watching wing it's three [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► o'clock in the afternoon and i'm already [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► planning for 145 in the morning and I'm [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► marking the people in my head who are [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► going to get carried out of that wedding [TS]

00:17:05 ◼   ► reception on a gurney and I would like [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► wading into who i don't want to forget [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► my local market my coffee nothing i can [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► do that [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► no they're not they're going to be like [TS]

00:17:15 ◼   ► well [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► Colin uber and I mean 17 that the same [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► arena [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► somebody cut the total that's the point [TS]

00:17:21 ◼   ► out i'm gonna swoop down and and so I [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► walked out of that wedding at an end up [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► at a certain point the the reception is [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► coming to a close and the staff the [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► people who are going to tear this this [TS]

00:17:38 ◼   ► party down who are swooping in and [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► they're starting to clean up and they're [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► sweeping up the debris and they're taken [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► together they got they got out what we [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► call that when you are you strike the [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► set [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► they got to get ready for the Abramowitz [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► but Mitzvah that's exactly right that's [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► happening tomorrow morning huh well no [TS]

00:17:55 ◼   ► tomorrow morning there's a there's like [TS]

00:17:57 ◼   ► a flower show [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► ok then the bottom it's what happens in [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► the afternoon but they're swooping in [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► there they're striking the set and I'm [TS]

00:18:05 ◼   ► saying kind of in the kind of been [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► through the the four is 22 is 11 is none [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► yeah one is one-third I'm saying you [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► know I've gotta tie the sum of this copy [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► to these people because I'm looking [TS]

00:18:20 ◼   ► around there's probably there's probably [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► nine unattended how you know you're at [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► the point where having the one and your [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► figure out how do I spread the wealth [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► that's right that a nice John [TS]

00:18:31 ◼   ► these guys are you cleaning up the clean [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► up the place and you know and they're [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► kind of looking around like this coffee [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► just gonna the phrase you would use in [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► the cavities is for anyone that's right [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► this for anyone is this is this gonna [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► get bend or is this gonna find its way [TS]

00:18:50 ◼   ► into my messenger bag and so you know I [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► again as you say i have the authority i [TS]

00:18:55 ◼   ► have the privilege of being one of the [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► people in a pink tie if you will [TS]

00:18:59 ◼   ► who so I swooped in i swoop across the [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► room I survey the room and I'm like that [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► one that one that one that so anyway I [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► come home with six pounds of coffee [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► jiminy Christmas good quality copy and i [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► arrived home to find there are four [TS]

00:19:16 ◼   ► pounds of coffee in my refrigerator that [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► my mom bought with a coupon [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► oh my gosh that is so nice [TS]

00:19:22 ◼   ► step but now i have 10 pounds of coffee [TS]

00:19:27 ◼   ► which witch too many I I don't want to [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► introduce triangulation here but are you [TS]

00:19:34 ◼   ► i'm guessing you're recording from home [TS]

00:19:35 ◼   ► today [TS]

00:19:37 ◼   ► oh uh no I don't like asking terms of [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► the the coffee situation [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► oh yes that's right ok so you have [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► access to coffee now have access to [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► coffee and I'm and I'm feeling pretty [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► good caffeinated ok but I'm but I'm [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► concerned I'm concerned about my [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► well-being because now I have too much [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► coffee and I'm concerned about the [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► coffee's well-being because i don't know [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► if i have the I don't know if I have the [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► facilities to maintain 10 pounds of [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► coffee in a in a in a min estate ready [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► now right [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► like I feel like I should put five [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► pounds in a place where I don't even [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► think I have it I got it I got it [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► where is that where the copy isn't going [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► to be isn't going to be kind of is going [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► to spoil it something some way that's [TS]

00:20:25 ◼   ► the kind of thing that makes me wish I [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► lived in like a rich people suburb and [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► had like a second refrigerator and a [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► deep freeze and all that kind of stuff [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► because that's kind of like your [TS]

00:20:33 ◼   ► unattainable money hole in some ways not [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► precisely but you know another thing [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► they say out of sight out of mind right [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► and also to really let's be honest a lot [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► like cats wanting to see i'd like to [TS]

00:20:41 ◼   ► have a look at for companionship [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► it's nothing got 12 cats right so I mean [TS]

00:20:46 ◼   ► that's not good for you or the cats and [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► in this case the coffee's can be saying [TS]

00:20:48 ◼   ► what was going on with me [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► speaking of cat yeah I noticed that the [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► latest update of the iOS is Sierra uh [TS]

00:20:57 ◼   ► yes that's correct [TS]

00:20:59 ◼   ► do they run out of cats the they chose [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► to do a pivot from big cats two [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► locations in California and there's a [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► there's a kind of a subtle way the date [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► Telegraph how important or big the [TS]

00:21:15 ◼   ► change in the release is by for example [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► like you somebody is a big deal and then [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► el capitan is a smaller deal because [TS]

00:21:22 ◼   ► that's just a place in Yosemite who [TS]

00:21:24 ◼   ► knows how far they're gonna go i miss [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► the cats so I've always enjoyed the cats [TS]

00:21:27 ◼   ► so do you think there's going to be like [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► an iOS Compton em on iOS launch [TS]

00:21:33 ◼   ► that's iOS but no I don't think they [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► would I think they're sticking with the [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► numbers but it can be very very [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► confusing and then this also extends to [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► their the different models of a computer [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► of things because that those get [TS]

00:21:45 ◼   ► confusing names too and so a lot of the [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► human cry right now Isabella oh my gosh [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► what's gonna happen what they can [TS]

00:21:51 ◼   ► announce on thursday is going to be a [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► macbook is going to be a macbook air is [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► there going to be a macbook pro or [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► they're going to be the features of what [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► we used to call a macbook air in [TS]

00:22:00 ◼   ► something that's no longer called a [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► macbook air [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► this is some people have podcast about [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► why are you all humans didn't talk about [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► that today you mean well the thing is [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► it's important that i talk about these [TS]

00:22:11 ◼   ► things with you because I keep telling [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► people when they say what you do for a [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► living again [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► yeah I say I'm kind of I'm kind of in [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► the text fear and they may tilt their [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► heads quizzically and their spouse does [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► to like like a dog that just harmonica [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► and it's a go [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► I'm kind of disruptive within the [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► texture [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► oh and then make up their heads the [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► other one go [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► mmm only Nixon could go to China that's [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► right and so periodically I think it's [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► important that i talk about text oh [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► that's that's a terrific idea [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► yeah because it it repositions me [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► centrally in the disruptive a quadrant [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► of the texts fear right is every spirit [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► is divided into quadrants that's right [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► every sphere has quadrants and over here [TS]

00:23:05 ◼   ► you got a normative quadrant you're not [TS]

00:23:07 ◼   ► interested in that there's no future in [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► the normative quadrant new you want to [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► be another disruptive cause a dominant [TS]

00:23:13 ◼   ► quadrant and then there's the what was a [TS]

00:23:19 ◼   ► missive no I don't think submissive I [TS]

00:23:21 ◼   ► think it would be a subversive oh I see [TS]

00:23:25 ◼   ► you say you're going to the dominant [TS]

00:23:28 ◼   ► quadra subvert the dominant quadrant of [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► the sphere right [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► ok so that's where I like to locate [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► myself for being located i don't know if [TS]

00:23:38 ◼   ► you can locate yourself [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► I think you can I think you need to be [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► located [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► bye-bye others by the culture by the [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► conventional wisdom and in order to do [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► that you have to maintain a foot in the [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► in the selected quadrant okay you know [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► what no I'm gonna allow it i'll tell you [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► this I'll tell you one thing i don't [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► like about about Bill Clinton was that [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► he introduced the word grow as far as i [TS]

00:24:02 ◼   ► know into the parlance as a transitive [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► verb i do not like when people use grow [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► as a transitive verb I don't think [TS]

00:24:08 ◼   ► detect you don't want to grow our [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► quadrant to see I think that's going to [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► be happening in the in the [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► counter-revolutionary non-dominant hand [TS]

00:24:15 ◼   ► of the public of the severe well I think [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► what we're doing here fires didn't [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► correct me if I'm wrong but if you want [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► to use locate as a reflexive verb to [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► talk about where you decide to see how [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► about this how about you situate [TS]

00:24:30 ◼   ► yourself i'm pretty sure all to sarah [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► said you can situate you can situate [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► others and I imagine with a little bit [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► of effort you can situate yourself i [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► think i'd ride to such I think we I try [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► to situate myself within your and my [TS]

00:24:44 ◼   ► context so then it's like a Zen sphere a [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► sense their spirits fears upon spirits [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► fears all the way down huh [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► I tried to be nice try to situate myself [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► with you within our text within our [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► sphere which is within the text fear [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► okay okay I think I got it I'm situating [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► myself with you as the disrupt or [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► but i am but i think that that that it's [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► not capable [TS]

00:25:16 ◼   ► I'm not capable of well for instance I [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► don't think you can say about yourself [TS]

00:25:21 ◼   ► that you're woke oh yeah it's like [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► calling your own verse poetry [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► yeah i think only someone else only a [TS]

00:25:29 ◼   ► stakeholder can describe you as woke you [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► i know another one thought leader [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► oh you're not allowed to call yourself a [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► thought later somebody else calls you a [TS]

00:25:40 ◼   ► thought leader you can punch him in the [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► nose but but i think if you call [TS]

00:25:43 ◼   ► yourself a thought leader you can have a [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► heater problems and let's be honest just [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► because you have one bag of coffee two [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► bags of coffees three coffees bags that [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► doesn't mean you can also have a larger [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► bag in which to situate those coffees [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► these are the weddings or speak speaking [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► events now if you are Steve Aoki can you [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► call yourself a thought leader Steve a [TS]

00:26:03 ◼   ► key is he the guy in fargo i think use [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► isn't here in electro house musician [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► yeah I don't mean like you I don't use [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► it like a musician in houses were [TS]

00:26:18 ◼   ► nothing like he's an electrician he [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► might be an electrician like an [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► electrical engineer i'm thinking of the [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► guy that Frances McDormand goes to visit [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► in in the Twin Cities I thought that I [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► steve aoki like who's like weirdly [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► really creepily one sort of cheat on her [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► husband that's a really good movie that [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► is a nice me like that movie i do that's [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► a fine fine movie [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► oh boy like that movie line i like those [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► guys that make those movies becomes I [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► like those guys today there one of those [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► one of that they're they're the kind of [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► artists were like regardless of how i [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► feel about every single thing that they [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► make [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► I always will be attracted to their [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► point of view [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► yeah you know I didn't make it even all [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► the way through health Caesar that's [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► okay it happens I'm I try again but yet [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► really that's that's my daughter really [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► wants to watch it because it's really [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► funny yeah it with the trailer looks [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► funny but we're but that was that it was [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► like not funny it was it was it was hard [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► to watch because it was [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► because they they land so many punches [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► normally throughout their career they [TS]

00:27:26 ◼   ► have and this was just a swish that [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► everybody in it and frankly I honestly [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► this is hard for me this is really hard [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► for me to say okay say slowly not so [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► sure about Clooney not so sure about [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► Clooney yeah yeah I don't like to say it [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► yeah I don't like to ruminate on that [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► one because I'm pretty easy kind of the [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► Pantheon for me I before me too i'm kind [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► of pro Clooney I go I look out into the [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► world and I go Clooney right if there [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► was a knock on the door I opened the [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► door and there were two people standing [TS]

00:28:09 ◼   ► there and dark sunglasses in black suits [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► uh-huh and they said Clooney I'd say [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► Clooney yeah right you're not gonna stay [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► and see like no and I feel like I feel [TS]

00:28:21 ◼   ► like you know a barring any information [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► to the contrary my god is that he's a [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► he's a good guy a good guy right i feel [TS]

00:28:29 ◼   ► that same way about pit innovative these [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► two guys at the door like Clooney and [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► Pitt Clooney and poke [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► I was I'd say yeah they do my taxes yeah [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► like I i love cleaning but there are [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► there are there's I think ample evidence [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► to say about pit at least there's ample [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► evidence where you could be any one of [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► them but hmm yeah really i just i always [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► felt like that charm that smile [TS]

00:28:56 ◼   ► he's gonna get away with it there's [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► something a friend of mine likes to say [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► about why i'm not on a lot of his [TS]

00:29:01 ◼   ► podcast which is that he likes to deploy [TS]

00:29:03 ◼   ► me tactically which i think is a very [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► nice way of saying he just doesn't want [TS]

00:29:07 ◼   ► too much of me on it shows which i think [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► is an entirely reasonable point of view [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► it is what you're saying here that maybe [TS]

00:29:12 ◼   ► cleaning is something we should deploy [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► tactically what I'm saying is Clooney as [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► a comedic actor I feel like that's the [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► leap that we have that we that we are [TS]

00:29:24 ◼   ► making one reflectively and we need to [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► stop we need to take a step back at ya [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► Clooney's very charming he's wonderful [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► he's handsome [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► is he truly a comedic actor oh brother [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► where art out [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► well this is what I'm saying oh brother [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► where art down is a very very [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► interesting film that will get a lot of [TS]

00:29:46 ◼   ► people love it's sort of like Moonrise [TS]

00:29:48 ◼   ► Kingdom no doubt very good or i would [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► even say steve zissou it's one of those [TS]

00:29:54 ◼   ► like if you don't like the general Wes [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► Anderson deal don't start with steve [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► zissou but I feel like Moonrise Kingdom [TS]

00:30:02 ◼   ► is one of the films where a where like a [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► fans of the director can differ there is [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► a lot I don't think that's the [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► apotheosis of what wes anderson is [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► capable of right now I mean people who [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► are fans are like this is this is the [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► one right and then there are others like [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► me who feel like no that is not true [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► that is not this is it's not it's not [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► the nadir either but it's like I have I [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► have strong criticisms of that film ever [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► and oh brother where art thou [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► I feel is very similar in the sense that [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► at the center of the movie is an act or [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► that does not belong there [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► uh-huh ate a little bit like CII more of [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► those weirdos that I like the the Great [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► Khan brothers movies that everybody [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► likes and I also i really-really jail [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► enjoy some of the slider films like I i [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► really like the hudsucker proxy a lot [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► and some people removing some people [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► really don't like that movie and I think [TS]

00:31:14 ◼   ► it's wonderful but in that case is it [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► just is it is it a little bit too coen [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► brothers and that's not helped by the [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► clooney what about later type of years [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► Ladykillers you got Tom Hanks with a [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► stutter I feel like I feel like Clooney [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► is clown and Clooney is clowning clooney [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► is clown in that movie he is Hammond [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► Hammond it up and the thing about the [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► Coen brothers is that everybody's hand [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► all the time in all their movies but [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► they're not smirking they're showing [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► John Goodman it's like swinging from the [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► rafters but he's committed he's [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► committed [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► yes John Goodman is really happening but [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► he's not clownin you believe it [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► uh-huh and you look throughout all the [TS]

00:32:01 ◼   ► Coen brothers movies who are the who's [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► clowning and it's Clooney's class [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► Clooney's clownin yeah so you can see [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► all the way through [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► oh brother out there which is a great [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► film everybody else is like is all the [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► way in happening there there there ham [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► Virginia ham been having the hand and [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► Clooney is riding the hand all i see is [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► like slim pickins on the on the the bomb [TS]

00:32:31 ◼   ► you know you don't you don't fly a [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► rocket ship you're right it [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► that's right that's right and eating [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► with Virginia ham you need to be in the [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► ham you need to be the ham have it to [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► hangout ride that that's right so let's [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► go with the ham right you don't have the [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► ham ride you in transitively so if be if [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► your brother where art thou clooney is [TS]

00:32:52 ◼   ► you know he's playing the role but he's [TS]

00:32:54 ◼   ► right in the ham ya been at OC old [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► Caesar or hail caesar right who's not [TS]

00:33:01 ◼   ► even he's just like he's sweating [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► through the oldies if you know what I [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► see how this yes Jackie kind of fake [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► teeth in hail caesar did they do things [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► to make his teeth more funny in that I [TS]

00:33:15 ◼   ► find feel like yes although when you [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► comment on Hollywood actors teeth i know [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► i mean in a like this is obviously fixed [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► fake teeth sort of like like Matt and [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► Matt Matt Matt Damon uh the kid from the [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► eighties movie chillin chillin in that [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► one movie with the other guy we have all [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► yeah with the girl with the girl would [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► be a few minutes in hair [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► yeah so like okay and I'm kind of going [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► somewhere with this and this is this is [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► a large unified field theory that might [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► be a ham [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► but i'm thinking also think of the movie [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► snowpiercer which owes us a lot of [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► fucking money arm very good movie but [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► till the Swinton she has a character [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► with fake teeth she's cloud in the ham [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► too [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► she's transformed by those 50 she is i [TS]

00:34:03 ◼   ► think i think in many of these instances [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► the teeth make people a little Clowney [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► yeah and and i think it doesn't always [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► work [TS]

00:34:11 ◼   ► I'm gonna you know I'll fight anybody in [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► the snowpiercer fight ring you know I [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► can [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► there were interesting [TS]

00:34:21 ◼   ► snowpiercer is is a series of [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► interesting vignettes stitched together [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► with the incomprehensible like one page [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► the one page of snowpiercer makes no [TS]

00:34:34 ◼   ► sense of the the four three two one on [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► that is I feel like the first quarter of [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► it is riveting [TS]

00:34:40 ◼   ► yeah the second quarter maybe half of [TS]

00:34:43 ◼   ► that and then by the time you get to the [TS]

00:34:45 ◼   ► end you get to the front you're like oh [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► yeah you really had me ask me a little [TS]

00:34:49 ◼   ► bit yeah you lost me here I'm I've been [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► wondering that we've talked about this [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► quite a bit like how do scripts get made [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► in particular howdy shitty scripts get [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► all the way to Maine ok I've just been [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► recently watching the very popular [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► television show strange strange things [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► strange strange ways [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► stranger things stranger thing to eat a [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► new password re-establish my old [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► password [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► oh that's good for mending fences yeah I [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► made a that's right that's right and I i [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► watch the show and it was a thing where [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► you know at first you're like is this [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► just a TV show and then things start [TS]

00:35:34 ◼   ► happening here like this interesting TV [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► show and then a little while in I [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► started to feel at least like there's [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► acting happening here some of what i [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► thought was just not very good acting is [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► good acting then I got you know a little [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► bit like mm that relationship between [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► those people is annoying me now [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► I feel like if I warriors yeah if I were [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► in the writing room I would have I would [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► have done that I would have handled that [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► a little better put a little bit of [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► backspin on that who and then about what [TS]

00:36:06 ◼   ► would you what would you say [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► four-fifths of the way through i said [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► this had better not be one of those [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► shows where the writing falls apart [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► four-fifths of the way through the show [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► because nobody thought about how to end [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► it i remember getting i want to say into [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► the penultimate episode and thinking wow [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► they have a lot of loose ends to clean [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► up in an hour [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► that's right and and it felt very much [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► like you guys didn't think this all the [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► way through and i'm picturing you in the [TS]

00:36:37 ◼   ► writing room and no there's no person in [TS]

00:36:39 ◼   ► the writing room who's sitting back in [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► their chair and saying now wait a minute [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► what why in the universe of this all [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► happening like why or furthermore like [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► not just what [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► but like that that thing has motivations [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► to yeah I know I that that's the most [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► interesting kind of story is that bring [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► the thing has motivation see it's like [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► what you name another just to go to an [TS]

00:37:07 ◼   ► old example alien and aliens like you [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► know the particular alien it has things [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► that it wants [TS]

00:37:13 ◼   ► mhm sure does a like so many of these so [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► many monster movies now that the the [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► thing is just a thing [TS]

00:37:23 ◼   ► ya mean Jason had a motivation who [TS]

00:37:27 ◼   ► Michael Myers had motivation who i'm not [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► sure about the one with the sweater and [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► the little over four sky with the stripe [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► sweater [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► yeah who came into your dreams and did [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► bad things yeah uh what was his [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► motivation he was be was dream he was in [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► a dream and he's mad i think was a child [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► molester who that throwing a furnace who [TS]

00:37:49 ◼   ► I think and then he gets in your dreams [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► yeah yeah child molester in first that's [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► terrible ah uh-huh [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► I know I know I thought will meet i take [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► the heat I deserve it but then but then [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► that the the stranger things arrived at [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► its end and I was relieved of my of my [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► relieved of the horror of of having [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► spent a season with this and then [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► meeting to hate it yeah but like I I get [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► it arrived at the end and I went alright [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► television you have you you succeed use [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► you didn't i'm not sure you stuck the [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► landing but you made the landing you [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► arch your back put your hands in the air [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► now it's up to the judges [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► yeah did they stick it yeah now it's up [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► to history to judge you i don't feel [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► ripped off guiding good question i [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► didn't watch lost be ever one time early [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► on we were on tour and uh and a very [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► delightful band we were opening for a [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► for a delightful band and they gave us i [TS]

00:39:01 ◼   ► pod the first ipods that had TV screen [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► oh neato yeah those are neat with it was [TS]

00:39:10 ◼   ► that the ipod need oh ok i thought [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► needed came with a sock em so we all got [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► ipod nose and the other guys in the band [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► loaded their ipod nose with things [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► immediately and I don't know how they [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► did it [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► probably online people mover whooping [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► all this on their ipod those are four [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► things now I kept my yard and then you [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► have to use the ethernet cable they did [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► somehow we were in Europe I don't even [TS]

00:39:34 ◼   ► know how they did it [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► that's a whole different voltage there [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► well yeah exactly right you can't even [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► play Betamax tapes over multiple pal but [TS]

00:39:42 ◼   ► uh I kept mine in the box probably for a [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► year and then my mom a frequent [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► character on this podcast LOL she found [TS]

00:39:53 ◼   ► my ipod no in the box and she was like [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► what's this nice and it's an i pad pod [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► and she said oh my now and then she took [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► it and loaded up with stuff she loaded [TS]

00:40:04 ◼   ► up with the history of indie rock to [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► create a thick and she's been that was [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► pre Creed [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► and she's I don't know she used it until [TS]

00:40:12 ◼   ► it caught on fire but anyway one time we [TS]

00:40:14 ◼   ► were driving through Austria or [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► something and i was maybe sick and I was [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► just mad and Eric course on the bass [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► player the long winter said here why [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► don't you watch an episode of lost the [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► very popular television show who on my [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► ipod ipad nido with my papito then and [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► the ipad needa yet no i don't know i [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► don't have the timeline is very [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► confusing to play your sick that was i I [TS]

00:40:39 ◼   ► IX chap I yeah [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► carrabelle up eggs the American [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► Shorthair so so I got ready stucked is [TS]

00:40:56 ◼   ► that in the car and I watched I tried to [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► watch lost on this little teeny phone [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► thing in a moving vehicle and I became [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► very frustrated with up with every stage [TS]

00:41:10 ◼   ► of the like what is this in [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► comprehensible television show it's like [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► I'm watching somebody play the video [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► game missed who but on a thing that is [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► like this the size of a large pack of [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► candy cigarettes and this vehicle is [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► moving through space and i'm building a [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► little car second i was sick already [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► with so that not an ideal introduction [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► know it was a little bit like a [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► clockwork orange introduction my [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► eyeballs were pinned back i was taped to [TS]

00:41:37 ◼   ► a chair [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► Ludovico technique and I was like I [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► don't want to watch this loss and I was [TS]

00:41:42 ◼   ► grateful later when the when there was a [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► cataclysmic sigh of disappointment [TS]

00:41:46 ◼   ► throughout the culture i inhabit wearing [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► hit or inhibit the closer you get it but [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► it makes me which you choose to look at [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► yourself [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► that's right the culture in which i'm [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► located that I choose to inhibit i said [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► haha rules i didn't want your dumb show [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► because I wait and I wait until the jury [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► is in ya and now you all feel like [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► you've been hoodwinked like you were [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► gasps lighted by some people that didn't [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► write the story in advance [TS]

00:42:20 ◼   ► that's not a thing that I don't like to [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► watch that thing where the story wasn't [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► written in advance i listen to a [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► wonderful thing this weekend which was a [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► 1960 interview studs terkel interviewing [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► Buster Keaton in 1962 my god which is [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► pretty interesting to think about it [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► anyways I'm but she was still kicking [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► around at the time he's talking about [TS]

00:42:44 ◼   ► like trying to release his films in [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► Europe and but it was a of course that's [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► terrible that's who I acted love that [TS]

00:42:50 ◼   ► guy just love his whole deal and there's [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► just lots of interesting little tidbits [TS]

00:42:55 ◼   ► and little just really talking about [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► anything about his movies or 40 years [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► old at that point he was still kicking [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► around but they were it was very [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► interesting just talking about you know [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► how you how you make those movies and [TS]

00:43:06 ◼   ► what went into it one thing he said that [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► was so remarkable was that in this [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► gravelly voice for her from the secrets [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► that would eventually kill him he's like [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► yeah we really know what we would do [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► this we would always we had to have a [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► really a very good start and a fantastic [TS]

00:43:20 ◼   ► ending and then we can fill in the [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► middle easily but you gotta know how it [TS]

00:43:23 ◼   ► starts [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► and you've got to know how it ends and [TS]

00:43:25 ◼   ► they never used the script which is if [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► it is true is amazing because you think [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► about you know today like they're a lot [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► of people who use you know primarily Mad [TS]

00:43:32 ◼   ► Max famously had storyboards rather than [TS]

00:43:34 ◼   ► like a written script but like whatever [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► ambitious idea when I put a different [TS]

00:43:38 ◼   ► time and I I don't have been turning it [TS]

00:43:41 ◼   ► over in my mind like wondering if I [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► think that's entirely true [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► I assume it is but also think about the [TS]

00:43:47 ◼   ► implications of only really having a [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► beginning and an end and then that how [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► that governs what you do for the parts [TS]

00:43:53 ◼   ► in the middle I are you familiar with [TS]

00:43:57 ◼   ► the author Maria simple she wrote oh [TS]

00:44:01 ◼   ► she's a blow friend of the guy who we've [TS]

00:44:05 ◼   ► talked about she's a friend of the guy [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► who talked about she's she's there isn't [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► she the daughter of Lorenzo simple [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► junior so we're remembering that's [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► correct [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► ok Maria Semple yes you talk to you [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► talked up talk about her don't tell me [TS]

00:44:17 ◼   ► about Maria Semple well Marie simple is [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► a writer she has she has written a [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► popular book where'd you go Bernadette [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► which was a [TS]

00:44:28 ◼   ► the best she was in the it was in the [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► best sellers fear Bernadette and she [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► just a friend she is married to George [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► my er one of the peaches were just the [TS]

00:44:39 ◼   ► simpsons yes yes yes and was a he was a [TS]

00:44:42 ◼   ► writer he was that I guess head writer [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► on the early david letterman show the [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► david letterman show that we all do only [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► love you when you weren't allowed to do [TS]

00:44:52 ◼   ► anything normal we have guests and hope [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► that they're know that we have anybody [TS]

00:44:59 ◼   ► who's ever been on the Carson show nope [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► you better you better send the reception [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► is from a drug clinic to the bus station [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► what are you there you there all the [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► high be on TV free peanuts in the world [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► are going to fix that would you like a [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► hot i'm sorry i love that show anyways [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► yeah so sure you duh [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► funny funny kind please learn a dead [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► what am I thinking of my singing that [TS]

00:45:29 ◼   ► that's a who's that guy there the guy [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► from George in the wheelchair passed [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► away was that guy's name [TS]

00:45:35 ◼   ► no the one guy plan huh Tony Orlando [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► Tony Orlando let's save Tony Orlando [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► thinking of thick chest alone just not [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► hear the sonic lisburn dad giving away [TS]

00:45:50 ◼   ► the chestnut were with did a long tour [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► of europe with the chestnut I that was [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► colorful it was extremely colorful and I [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► loved and adored him but I felt like [TS]

00:46:01 ◼   ► when he died he and i were estranged [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► he's a pretty complicated guy wasn't [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► yeah and there was a bet and then lived [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► in a world of complicated people [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► yeah i surrounded by complicated i saw [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► him at some in noe valley from nineteen [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► ninety thousand time to show there was [TS]

00:46:17 ◼   ► pretty riveting [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► yeah he's a he was great intense [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► performer yeah people's freedom with [TS]

00:46:23 ◼   ► lamb chop [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► that's right and that was in Matt era [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► that was in that that exact error that I [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► toward within the lamb chop chop era el [TS]

00:46:32 ◼   ► nido fact we all played a show together [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► in [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► Barcelona barthelona a small sample [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► herpaderp oh maria semple gave just gave [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► a talk where she was describing her [TS]

00:46:47 ◼   ► writing process and it was that she [TS]

00:46:51 ◼   ► imagine some characters and then she [TS]

00:46:55 ◼   ► wanted and then she decided what was [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► going to happen to them [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► here's what she hears what she has she [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► has the characters and then she knows [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► what she wants to happen to them at the [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► end she was she knows where they at [TS]

00:47:07 ◼   ► where she wants them to end up and then [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► the book writes itself and I I thought [TS]

00:47:13 ◼   ► about that she was speaking and then I [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► walked away with it I've been turning it [TS]

00:47:16 ◼   ► over in my hands over sentence [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► huh you said you know I've got these i [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► got this character a a callow shrill [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► woman and I want her to get her [TS]

00:47:27 ◼   ► comeuppance and I want to come up and [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► still look like this and so here we go [TS]

00:47:33 ◼   ► and here's her journey on her way to her [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► comeuppance [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► I was like me that's a that's very [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► different from like starting in the dark [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► and feeling your way toward like 900 [TS]

00:47:48 ◼   ► pages of gibberish and then trying to [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► filter that down into 10 song at how [TS]

00:47:53 ◼   ► light the light give creating a fiction [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► book a novel in any way is just seems [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► like such a staggering idea to me and [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► wonder how I wonder I wonder if that [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► process works for more than one book [TS]

00:48:04 ◼   ► she's describing it as as working now [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► successfully for her through three books [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► wow she that's that's she's got a good [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► mind [TS]

00:48:15 ◼   ► yeah you need a good mind to do [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► something like that very smart and [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► writing a novel i got i wish i could [TS]

00:48:23 ◼   ► yeah i've never tried so I don't know if [TS]

00:48:27 ◼   ► I could take you have to start with [TS]

00:48:28 ◼   ► short fiction so short fiction I think I [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► friends and Outsiders in Outsiders [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► somebody who enjoys fiction from as an [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► outsider point-of-view kind of seems [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► like that's the it feels like in a [TS]

00:48:39 ◼   ► really perhaps dumb way that's the [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► training wheels for learning how to tell [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► a story is to write something you know [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► 10 pages long before you write something [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► 300 pages [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► well I I may have done this because it [TS]

00:48:53 ◼   ► was very self-serving but a long time [TS]

00:48:55 ◼   ► ago I said the novel is a is a high art [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► but then the short story is a higher art [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► because you have less room fewer words [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► to tell the entire tail and then poems [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► as commonly would say aren't even [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► further and even higher art because you [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► have now reduced it you have reduced the [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► short story to or the rather you reduce [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► the novel's worth of story two stanzas [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► and then the highest ours is the pop [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► song because now you've taken the poem [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► and cleanse it of all of its impurity [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► wash the filth out of it through and [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► made only the gold only the little [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► shining nuggets and that is why the pop [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► song sits atop the pyramid of all [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► writing as the true condensation now [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► that may be that may be self-serving but [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► i don't think so [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► who I think I i think it I think that [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► within the within the sphere that that I [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► grow I grow the sphere were in it the [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► one in which he located yourself [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► that's right I be the sphere I i see the [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► spear I be the sphere living rooms and [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► within that groans here I i think i've [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► reduced the I budget reduce the sum [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► total of all human knowledge to a to a [TS]

00:50:50 ◼   ► poster that could go on the wall of a [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► dentist's office [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► I don't think that sounds self-serving [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► know my pitches photographs of furniture [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► that is made on it on the walls of his [TS]

00:50:59 ◼   ► place [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► no it's much worse it's much more [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► clockwork orange it's why I don't go [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► there anymore [TS]

00:51:05 ◼   ► he's very much you mean does he play his [TS]

00:51:07 ◼   ► his sons band over the over the intercom [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► it's kind of worse he's very gregarious [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► nom everyone is it well yeah I mean I I [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► I don't want to talk to the over guy [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► definitely want to talk to my dentist is [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► a very nice guy but there's a very very [TS]

00:51:24 ◼   ► large screen in your face that is [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► nominally they're so like a kid could [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► watch dora or something but he has his [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► screensaver for a TV screen it's a big [TS]

00:51:34 ◼   ► big big TV screen that you have to look [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► at because you can either like look look [TS]

00:51:37 ◼   ► at him while he's in your mouth or you [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► can look at this screen right right [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► exactly Hobson's choice and so but up on [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► the screen is a canny mix of furniture [TS]

00:51:46 ◼   ► that he is built and cartoons about [TS]

00:51:49 ◼   ► dentistry that he regards as funny I [TS]

00:51:51 ◼   ► don't know [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► yeah I can't see the Beethoven anymore [TS]

00:51:56 ◼   ► I mean it's like kind of blue whoo-hoo [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► oh my my my [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► the Newport home companion yeah ha ha ha [TS]

00:52:11 ◼   ► tinh know you haven't listened to the [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► old prairie home companion except when i [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► was over at friends houses in mind [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► looking for aa really this is this is [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► we're going with this you did you've [TS]

00:52:24 ◼   ► never listened to prairie home companion [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► not voluntarily okay Herman what's now [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► hosted by that that that funny [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► nice hilarious talented man who plays [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► mandolin in the band that's not it's not [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► Nickelback used to be a nickel creek [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► that's right he's extremely talented and [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► funny and has made the show fun uh a [TS]

00:52:43 ◼   ► friend of the show John Hodgman was on [TS]

00:52:45 ◼   ► this week's episode [TS]

00:52:45 ◼   ► oh that's fun that is it is fun and [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► they've had great they had lake street [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► dive which is my favorite band i've [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► discovered in 2016 they were on [TS]

00:52:53 ◼   ► okay good but they're not they're not [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► being too cute about it still got a lot [TS]

00:52:57 ◼   ► of flavor of the old show you never [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► listen to on purpose right [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► all the kids are beautiful and all of [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► the trucks run on time [TS]

00:53:06 ◼   ► yep ethanol here at Lake Wobegon at [TS]

00:53:08 ◼   ► least at least garrison keillor made the [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► trucks run on time [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► well so I am I would consider myself [TS]

00:53:14 ◼   ► pretty darn good friends with sara [TS]

00:53:17 ◼   ► watkins chance she's very talented home [TS]

00:53:20 ◼   ► then she'll be on the old show you [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► didn't listen to quite often she's no [TS]

00:53:23 ◼   ► cindy cashdollar but she would be on [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► fairly often [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► yeah well she and her brother and the [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► other otherwise it's now hosting it [TS]

00:53:29 ◼   ► that's right in the other where they [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► were Nickelback the three of them they [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► were Nickelback and they are amazingly [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► charming wonderful tear them cover [TS]

00:53:36 ◼   ► pavement curl your hair [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► yeah take the cover spit spit on a [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► stranger and sublime they there's a lot [TS]

00:53:44 ◼   ► of sublimity in one lady subliminally am [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► and I thought when he got that show that [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► if there was a chance for someone to [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► come in and take over for garrison that [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► this always like Hong Kong garrison [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► garrison who he garrison himself in that [TS]

00:54:03 ◼   ► in that a saint paul public radio [TS]

00:54:06 ◼   ► building and I thought that there was a [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► very good chance that that would be a [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► success because of the because of the [TS]

00:54:14 ◼   ► slept sublimity and the and the talent [TS]

00:54:17 ◼   ► has good taste too and it sounds like [TS]

00:54:19 ◼   ► it's happened also you can rip like [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► everybody playing mandolin like he plays [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► he plays the mandolin like a genie pages [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► of guitar player is pull offs are crazy [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► but being about the mandolin is that [TS]

00:54:29 ◼   ► that as mandolin playing gets better and [TS]

00:54:32 ◼   ► better [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► it becomes clearer and clearer that the [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► mandolin is the mandolin is just there [TS]

00:54:39 ◼   ► to make it make no clouds [TS]

00:54:42 ◼   ► mmm yeah Pat Allen who bad mandolin [TS]

00:54:47 ◼   ► playing is like his mandolin playing [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► that bad mandolin playing is is fairly a [TS]

00:54:54 ◼   ► musical right because it's someone [TS]

00:54:56 ◼   ► that's used to playing the guitar picks [TS]

00:54:58 ◼   ► up the mandolin figures out for five [TS]

00:55:00 ◼   ► chords and then it's just a really high [TS]

00:55:03 ◼   ► little little guitar be loop loop like [TS]

00:55:06 ◼   ► you know like the same setup [TS]

00:55:08 ◼   ► yep oh no kidding so what do you mean is [TS]

00:55:11 ◼   ► that the same setup no I don't like four [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► ok but i do think that if you're if [TS]

00:55:16 ◼   ► you're used to playing the guitar you [TS]

00:55:18 ◼   ► can sit in a noodle on it and be like [TS]

00:55:19 ◼   ► well I put my finger here it sounds like [TS]

00:55:21 ◼   ► that but you know you you make chords [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► you find chords I'm gonna learn about [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► mandolin tunings but as you get better [TS]

00:55:27 ◼   ► and better [TS]

00:55:28 ◼   ► the mandolin and you get faster and [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► faster and pull-offs get faster and [TS]

00:55:31 ◼   ► faster it becomes just that you know [TS]

00:55:33 ◼   ► that like it's every note all the time I [TS]

00:55:35 ◼   ► bet it's hard i mean that the tension on [TS]

00:55:37 ◼   ► the strings is pretty high but you don't [TS]

00:55:39 ◼   ► get a lot of slack it's not like a Les [TS]

00:55:40 ◼   ► Paul right it's not like it's not like a [TS]

00:55:43 ◼   ► fretless wonder it's not like a black [TS]

00:55:45 ◼   ► black les paul custom home but he the [TS]

00:55:49 ◼   ► advantages that the notes are really [TS]

00:55:51 ◼   ► close together and you don't have sure [TS]

00:55:53 ◼   ► so you have time hands or something tiny [TS]

00:55:55 ◼   ► hands you believe me [TS]

00:55:56 ◼   ► Miss Elizabeth notices yeah looks like [TS]

00:55:58 ◼   ► the opposite of a guitar upside down [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► guitar so it's ji ji Dae GD I he used to [TS]

00:56:05 ◼   ► throw shit all over the stage all I [TS]

00:56:07 ◼   ► remember him he's going to cut himself [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► GD yeah cut himself and then smear his [TS]

00:56:11 ◼   ► poop in it [TS]

00:56:12 ◼   ► yep something and we and that was art [TS]

00:56:14 ◼   ► research magazine GG dae I know that [TS]

00:56:20 ◼   ► seems ukulele John what's ukulele team [TS]

00:56:22 ◼   ► up to ninja hang on a telephone [TS]

00:56:25 ◼   ► telephone uq leili tuning I don't know [TS]

00:56:29 ◼   ► how ukuleles tuned even though i play [TS]

00:56:31 ◼   ► them all the time because I picked them [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► up and I tune them to the to my best [TS]

00:56:36 ◼   ► casts oh yeah so all all instruments [TS]

00:56:40 ◼   ► that I that somebody that are left in my [TS]

00:56:43 ◼   ► hands long enough for me to take [TS]

00:56:45 ◼   ► ownership of the tuning who I end up [TS]

00:56:49 ◼   ► tuning at least in the form of the high [TS]

00:56:51 ◼   ► for strings of a guitar interesting and [TS]

00:56:55 ◼   ► did you ask a person before you enter [TS]

00:56:57 ◼   ► ukulele letter and ukulele right if [TS]

00:57:00 ◼   ► someone hands me there ukulele and says [TS]

00:57:02 ◼   ► here you go [TS]

00:57:03 ◼   ► I do what I'm suggesting is what i would [TS]

00:57:05 ◼   ► do on the mandolin I would never try to [TS]

00:57:07 ◼   ► the mandolin but I just said and I yeah [TS]

00:57:10 ◼   ► I just play notes until I find chords [TS]

00:57:13 ◼   ► and then I'm like MJ mandolin seems like [TS]

00:57:15 ◼   ► a circle of hell because you got doubles [TS]

00:57:16 ◼   ► of everything it's like a 12-string but [TS]

00:57:18 ◼   ► with the none of the 12 string guitar [TS]

00:57:20 ◼   ► notes of it [TS]

00:57:21 ◼   ► yeah a drink that's tuned some some [TS]

00:57:24 ◼   ► other way and but that's what I mean [TS]

00:57:27 ◼   ► when I say if someone leaves their [TS]

00:57:29 ◼   ► ukulele with me long enough that i would [TS]

00:57:31 ◼   ► take over possession of the tuning which [TS]

00:57:34 ◼   ► is to say [TS]

00:57:35 ◼   ► more than overnight somebody if you [TS]

00:57:38 ◼   ► leave your ukulele with me overnight [TS]

00:57:39 ◼   ► somebody let you ukulele right if [TS]

00:57:42 ◼   ► somebody said like hey I left my ukulele [TS]

00:57:45 ◼   ► at your house i'll be back in six months [TS]

00:57:48 ◼   ► enjoy it yes i would take over the [TS]

00:57:52 ◼   ► tuning of it sure would sit and look at [TS]

00:57:53 ◼   ► this thing and just be like mm canada [TS]

00:57:57 ◼   ► and so at that point i would tune it [TS]

00:58:01 ◼   ► like a like a guitar and I and i'm not [TS]

00:58:03 ◼   ► sure i would even know [TS]

00:58:05 ◼   ► dge 2gb now so that's just like it's [TS]

00:58:10 ◼   ► just like it's guitar i get out you know [TS]

00:58:12 ◼   ► I've got a I've gotta a ukulele guitar [TS]

00:58:16 ◼   ► that I like a lot to tell you about this [TS]

00:58:18 ◼   ► ukulele guitar [TS]

00:58:19 ◼   ► yeah so it's a it's a guitar that's like [TS]

00:58:22 ◼   ► the size of a big ukulele and you just [TS]

00:58:24 ◼   ► have it sitting around in the family [TS]

00:58:25 ◼   ► room doesn't stay tuned [TS]

00:58:28 ◼   ► not too bad it just uses classical [TS]

00:58:30 ◼   ► guitar strings basically it really needs [TS]

00:58:31 ◼   ► to change I've had a frog almost couple [TS]

00:58:33 ◼   ► years now i love having around here's [TS]

00:58:35 ◼   ► the ball thing I did [TS]

00:58:36 ◼   ► normally you tune this thing the ease in [TS]

00:58:38 ◼   ► a yeah i'm doing right I'm doing drop [TS]

00:58:41 ◼   ► gee I took down add my friend gee sounds [TS]

00:58:44 ◼   ► great [TS]

00:58:45 ◼   ► totally exactly totally baller that is [TS]

00:58:49 ◼   ► that does sound cool you pick one these [TS]

00:58:51 ◼   ► up they're not very expensive and there [TS]

00:58:52 ◼   ► would be ideal for someone like you can [TS]

00:58:55 ◼   ► leave a key backer he held the [TS]

00:58:57 ◼   ► backpacker if you're a lock and welder [TS]

00:58:59 ◼   ► anything like that [TS]

00:59:01 ◼   ► walking welder we also got something our [TS]

00:59:03 ◼   ► house the other day that that's a lot [TS]

00:59:04 ◼   ► like what your what your meat sticks [TS]

00:59:06 ◼   ► called was called jagermeister no [TS]

00:59:09 ◼   ► seniors lon Yolanda yauger they are we [TS]

00:59:13 ◼   ► are we have a new salami product in our [TS]

00:59:15 ◼   ► house it's like it's basically about the [TS]

00:59:17 ◼   ► circumference of the key tip but it's [TS]

00:59:19 ◼   ► made out of salami and it's a delicious [TS]

00:59:21 ◼   ► three did you snap into a slim jim you [TS]

00:59:23 ◼   ► don't happen to you get from trader [TS]

00:59:25 ◼   ► joe's uh mhm mhm [TS]

00:59:29 ◼   ► anyway it was somebody write somebody a [TS]

00:59:31 ◼   ► good a good friend of mine a good friend [TS]

00:59:34 ◼   ► of this program that you might not know [TS]

00:59:36 ◼   ► okay gave me very generously gave me a [TS]

00:59:40 ◼   ► basket of laundry eggers boy [TS]

00:59:44 ◼   ► and said you know we drove all the way [TS]

00:59:46 ◼   ► across town in our town different from [TS]

00:59:49 ◼   ► my town and bought these land jaegers [TS]

00:59:51 ◼   ► and we love you to have them [TS]

00:59:52 ◼   ► that's so nice it was incredibly nice [TS]

00:59:54 ◼   ► really i think this is the problem i did [TS]

00:59:57 ◼   ► not prefer em there [TS]

00:59:57 ◼   ► not prefer em there [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► and Yeager's to my own land oh there [TS]

01:00:02 ◼   ► because Langer's you know they can go a [TS]

01:00:04 ◼   ► lot of different directions [TS]

01:00:05 ◼   ► absolutely and so I figured like say [TS]

01:00:08 ◼   ► anything about that really what you're [TS]

01:00:09 ◼   ► saying is like there's a form factor [TS]

01:00:11 ◼   ► here we want this thing that's like [TS]

01:00:12 ◼   ► super comfortable like a husky pencil [TS]

01:00:14 ◼   ► yeah nobody's gonna make it out of I bet [TS]

01:00:17 ◼   ► there's a lot of options there a lot of [TS]

01:00:19 ◼   ► options and how are you going to grind [TS]

01:00:21 ◼   ► up this stuff that you're going to put [TS]

01:00:22 ◼   ► in it [TS]

01:00:23 ◼   ► our season casing seasoning casing m.i.a [TS]

01:00:27 ◼   ► and so I figured you know these were [TS]

01:00:31 ◼   ► originally meant to be carried around in [TS]

01:00:33 ◼   ► the pocket of a farmer for however long [TS]

01:00:36 ◼   ► for azzaro at in the pocket of a [TS]

01:00:39 ◼   ► goatherd or somebody somebody that goes [TS]

01:00:41 ◼   ► up into the mountains and then comes [TS]

01:00:43 ◼   ► down some indeterminate time later huh [TS]

01:00:46 ◼   ► and so I put them in my pocket and [TS]

01:00:47 ◼   ► walked around figured they needed a [TS]

01:00:49 ◼   ► little bit of pocket curing Tokyo sure [TS]

01:00:51 ◼   ► and it didn't improve them and so they [TS]

01:00:55 ◼   ► said in my refrigerator a while and I [TS]

01:00:57 ◼   ► said maybe what they need to be is they [TS]

01:00:59 ◼   ► need to be desiccated because these [TS]

01:01:01 ◼   ► things are are better when they're [TS]

01:01:03 ◼   ► desiccated but no that didn't help them [TS]

01:01:07 ◼   ► either [TS]

01:01:08 ◼   ► and then I would be like that the easy [TS]

01:01:09 ◼   ► sticking a bag with like some silica [TS]

01:01:10 ◼   ► packets [TS]

01:01:12 ◼   ► well i think if you leave a thing in the [TS]

01:01:14 ◼   ► refrigerator long enough it will self [TS]

01:01:17 ◼   ► discipline and self test case yeah so [TS]

01:01:19 ◼   ► that didn't prove them and at the whole [TS]

01:01:21 ◼   ► time I was covered in a little bit of [TS]

01:01:23 ◼   ► shame because i like that i like the [TS]

01:01:25 ◼   ► people that gave me the land jaegers and [TS]

01:01:28 ◼   ► I and I did consider the supreme act of [TS]

01:01:31 ◼   ► generosity but i just could not stomach [TS]

01:01:33 ◼   ► these Landers and eventually they went [TS]

01:01:34 ◼   ► down the river [TS]

01:01:36 ◼   ► mmm yeah which was you know terrible i [TS]

01:01:39 ◼   ► just want their land Yeager for the [TS]

01:01:41 ◼   ► first time it's bigger than I thought it [TS]

01:01:42 ◼   ► would be it's not a slim jim it really [TS]

01:01:44 ◼   ► old like it's like a small-ish like [TS]

01:01:46 ◼   ► legitimate sausage [TS]

01:01:47 ◼   ► yeah it's a it well and the more that [TS]

01:01:51 ◼   ► the the more that the moisture goes out [TS]

01:01:53 ◼   ► of it the more it becomes it's like if [TS]

01:01:56 ◼   ► you're let's see it's bigger than your [TS]

01:01:59 ◼   ► finger [TS]

01:02:00 ◼   ► yeah it's bigger than its like if you [TS]

01:02:03 ◼   ► took a candle your typical candle em you [TS]

01:02:07 ◼   ► burned it for an hour and then you a [TS]

01:02:13 ◼   ► it around in your pocket okay for a [TS]

01:02:15 ◼   ► couple of weeks and I mean like it's on [TS]

01:02:18 ◼   ► stage and pocket candle its that's right [TS]

01:02:20 ◼   ► it's a candle that has had wax dripped [TS]

01:02:22 ◼   ► down the side of it from having burned [TS]

01:02:24 ◼   ► for an hour and then you took it out and [TS]

01:02:25 ◼   ► carried around your pocket for let's say [TS]

01:02:27 ◼   ► the length of time it took you to get [TS]

01:02:29 ◼   ► these goats over the mountain but it [TS]

01:02:30 ◼   ► matches the performance characteristics [TS]

01:02:31 ◼   ► you look for in this kind of thing it's [TS]

01:02:34 ◼   ► not like you're going to carry around [TS]

01:02:35 ◼   ► like what like poached eggs or porridge [TS]

01:02:37 ◼   ► in your pocket and you need something [TS]

01:02:38 ◼   ► portable something's gonna be Hardy that [TS]

01:02:40 ◼   ► idiotic let's be honest if you fall off [TS]

01:02:42 ◼   ► the tractor it's not gonna ruin your [TS]

01:02:43 ◼   ► lunch [TS]

01:02:44 ◼   ► well sure a it's it's like if you could [TS]

01:02:49 ◼   ► carry a pickle in your pocket I'd love [TS]

01:02:51 ◼   ► that a little pickle [TS]

01:02:52 ◼   ► yeah you can't carry a pickle in your [TS]

01:02:54 ◼   ► pocket it's going to get your that the [TS]

01:02:56 ◼   ► the brine is going to give you a rash [TS]

01:02:59 ◼   ► oh that's a shame but al and Yeager's [TS]

01:03:01 ◼   ► not going to give you a rash who and [TS]

01:03:03 ◼   ► it's um yeah I carry them around the [TS]

01:03:06 ◼   ► thing about beef jerky is beef jerky [TS]

01:03:08 ◼   ► gets its hard to eat get stuck in your [TS]

01:03:12 ◼   ► teeth [TS]

01:03:12 ◼   ► yeah it isn't it is this a little more [TS]

01:03:14 ◼   ► moist to desiccate it as it is a little [TS]

01:03:16 ◼   ► more moist and jerky [TS]

01:03:18 ◼   ► absolutely it snaps my guests like a [TS]

01:03:21 ◼   ► slim jim [TS]

01:03:22 ◼   ► there's more to it it doesn't involve [TS]

01:03:25 ◼   ► any kind of pro-wrestling element [TS]

01:03:27 ◼   ► yeah I understand when you bite into it [TS]

01:03:29 ◼   ► you imagine I mean like if this was a [TS]

01:03:33 ◼   ► television commercial and I've never [TS]

01:03:35 ◼   ► seen a commercial for land taker but if [TS]

01:03:37 ◼   ► this was a television commercial [TS]

01:03:39 ◼   ► I'd be like a guy just a normal guy [TS]

01:03:41 ◼   ► walking around his normal guy clothes [TS]

01:03:43 ◼   ► and then I'd snap into a land jager [TS]

01:03:46 ◼   ► instantly i will be wearing lederhosen [TS]

01:03:48 ◼   ► what you want italian hat and I Rowland [TS]

01:03:51 ◼   ► had and I would go world and the the [TS]

01:03:54 ◼   ► commercial the tagline would be land [TS]

01:03:57 ◼   ► eager turns you into a tyro lien em they [TS]

01:04:00 ◼   ► can I workshop that little more hit land [TS]

01:04:03 ◼   ► jager welcome to garmisch-partenkirchen [TS]

01:04:05 ◼   ► mm and that well yeah okay so that's not [TS]

01:04:10 ◼   ► a great i'm looking at him right now and [TS]

01:04:11 ◼   ► they they look they look really to some [TS]

01:04:13 ◼   ► you've never had you never have I don't [TS]

01:04:15 ◼   ► know if I have I have I forgot it [TS]

01:04:18 ◼   ► you have to go find the Bavarian butcher [TS]

01:04:21 ◼   ► shop either like the Bavarian quarter of [TS]

01:04:23 ◼   ► the sphere go to the Bavarian quarter [TS]

01:04:26 ◼   ► well yeah san Francisco's famous [TS]

01:04:27 ◼   ► Bavarian court who which is right over [TS]

01:04:30 ◼   ► there by italian town and yeah you walk [TS]

01:04:34 ◼   ► the streets and you you [TS]

01:04:37 ◼   ► yo for landecker that's the phrase you [TS]

01:04:40 ◼   ► know for Yeager y'all for a jager didn't [TS]

01:04:44 ◼   ► want to tell you addicted [TS]

01:04:46 ◼   ► yeah oh he's more local la you get he go [TS]

01:04:53 ◼   ► la de cola i think that the the process [TS]

01:04:58 ◼   ► of making and jager kills ecoline I'm [TS]

01:05:00 ◼   ► gonna just come right out and say [TS]

01:05:02 ◼   ► whatever you you want my friends food [TS]

01:05:03 ◼   ► podcast right direction that is not [TS]

01:05:06 ◼   ► gonna he may agree or disagree [TS]

01:05:08 ◼   ► uh-huh you make that he's got a lot of [TS]

01:05:10 ◼   ► thoughts he doesn't get the consensus on [TS]

01:05:12 ◼   ► that podcast seem to be everything you [TS]

01:05:15 ◼   ► put in your mouth there is an element of [TS]

01:05:17 ◼   ► risk and all we can do as eaters is to [TS]

01:05:22 ◼   ► measure the risk and bite into those [TS]

01:05:26 ◼   ► things where we've determined that the [TS]

01:05:27 ◼   ► risk is manageable life would be so much [TS]

01:05:32 ◼   ► better if we acknowledge that that's the [TS]

01:05:33 ◼   ► way everything is yeah i think that [TS]

01:05:36 ◼   ► there is not an inherent risk in things [TS]

01:05:38 ◼   ► that causes problems everything is risky [TS]

01:05:41 ◼   ► everything is risky just haven't [TS]

01:05:42 ◼   ► quantified yet yeah that's why anxious [TS]

01:05:44 ◼   ► people are technically right [TS]

01:05:47 ◼   ► hello um and so capacity Podsednik be [TS]

01:05:54 ◼   ► technically right about time how I [TS]

01:05:55 ◼   ► you're technically right little the [TS]

01:05:58 ◼   ► capacity to live in the world is [TS]

01:06:00 ◼   ► determined by your ability to or we're [TS]

01:06:03 ◼   ► on the sliding scale of risk management [TS]

01:06:05 ◼   ► you're gonna you're gonna put the marker [TS]

01:06:08 ◼   ► where you say this is the amount of risk [TS]

01:06:12 ◼   ► I'm willing to take em and my risk [TS]

01:06:15 ◼   ► marker is way out [TS]

01:06:17 ◼   ► I think relative to others I'm going to [TS]

01:06:19 ◼   ► take a lot of risk not knowing that [TS]

01:06:24 ◼   ► knowing that everything could everything [TS]

01:06:26 ◼   ► can potentially kill you [TS]

01:06:27 ◼   ► I mean I have a basket full of swords in [TS]

01:06:29 ◼   ► this house yeah which is not when you [TS]

01:06:32 ◼   ► know when my child was born and there [TS]

01:06:34 ◼   ► was all that all that talk in the [TS]