Roderick on the Line

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00:00:19 ◼   ► who had John I'm Merlin how's it going [TS]

00:00:24 ◼   ► it's going pretty good i'm i'm i'm not [TS]

00:00:27 ◼   ► in my customary podcast scenario should [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► I are sure you are now doesn't sound the [TS]

00:00:32 ◼   ► same [TS]

00:00:33 ◼   ► he's some fantastic i have that Dad [TS]

00:00:35 ◼   ► rock'n'roll years well it all sounds [TS]

00:00:37 ◼   ► like to me write it just sounds like a [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► compressed little uh one of those that [TS]

00:00:43 ◼   ► the grilled cheese sandwiches that is [TS]

00:00:44 ◼   ► made in a waffle iron [TS]

00:00:46 ◼   ► it's what Robin Williams called a [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► Buddhist gift oh I see what you mean [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► something that you don't want that you [TS]

00:00:52 ◼   ► have to learn to accept I heard in an [TS]

00:00:54 ◼   ► interview in a documentary one time [TS]

00:00:56 ◼   ► where I i think was Terry Gilliam was [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► saying that mr. robin williams says that [TS]

00:01:01 ◼   ► a mistake is a Buddhist gift you know we [TS]

00:01:05 ◼   ► say in rock and roll is one time it's a [TS]

00:01:07 ◼   ► one-time it's a clam m2 times it's a [TS]

00:01:10 ◼   ► it's a team three times it's a it's a [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► rift is that they make jazz Jon that's [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► exactly I make sure how many clams take [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► to make a jazz [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► mm well it depends is that why it's also [TS]

00:01:21 ◼   ► a red so what do you think mr. al 1233 [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► we points3 leaks something about that up [TS]

00:01:32 ◼   ► about hope about that up [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► oh no mr. Berlin I've been trying to [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► listen to more music have you have you [TS]

00:01:40 ◼   ► been trying to watch old a sudden that [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► live episodes for mr. bill [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► Oh mr. bill mr. bill is really look [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► forward mr. bill so did I don't think I [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► really wanted the implications of mr. [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► bill you know there was that that's the [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► that's that national lampoon sense of [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► humor which i think you needed to be [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► very very preppy and very very stone [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► preppy and stoned pre-installed i'm in [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► new york city right now what are you [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► doing in there are you are you in the [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► actual titular city something back [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► it sounds like you might be one of the [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► borough's i'm in a burrow right now I'm [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► on the i'm on the great island of of [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► long and but I'm staying in New York [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► City and New York is really really full [TS]

00:02:26 ◼   ► of young recipe drunk people [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► he also smoked a lot and so much [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► cigarette isn't me don't you see more [TS]

00:02:34 ◼   ► smoking in the city enormously more [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► smoking I mean everywhere else people [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► don't smoke anymore they don't smoke [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► anymore but in New York they smoke you [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► smoke like it's just a normal thing they [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► do they smoke like it's a normal thing [TS]

00:02:46 ◼   ► and also they don't have any like [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► prohibition against talking on the phone [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► she's gonna want the phone all the time [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► in San Francisco University of soul on [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► the phone [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► well you see them do you see them [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► staring at the phone and typing but [TS]

00:03:01 ◼   ► people rarely you see you see a lot of [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► people if you see people talking on the [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► phone it's usually because they got one [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► of those robot bluetooth things [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► mhm and it's a that's that's a whole [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► different kind of thing uh yeah that's [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► that's right people in seattle the same [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► way there staring at their phones [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► they're engaged with their phone but [TS]

00:03:17 ◼   ► they are not talking into it in any way [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► and in New York they're talking into [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► their phones and I think it's because [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► you can't stare at your phone in New [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► York or you'll be murdered [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► yeah you know what i think that's that's [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► part of the ethos i was in line at the [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► snack bar at the cinema yesterday and I [TS]

00:03:34 ◼   ► was thinking isn't this funny all five [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► of the people in front of me are staring [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► at their phones and I thought to myself [TS]

00:03:39 ◼   ► you know why don't know with what i [TS]

00:03:42 ◼   ► thought to myself self i said to myself [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► I says well why don't people just talk [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► to each other anymore [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► oh and then and it was really nice one [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► guy says to another guy in line when he [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► got there and the guy says it's a [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► yeast-like to put it on my popcorn haha [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► it's on East and then they went into a [TS]

00:04:00 ◼   ► long conversation about which theaters [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► have ye stand down my just look at your [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► fucking phone shut up I'm you know like [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► if somebody if I said hey how's it going [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► and somebody use the word yeast in the [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► first sentence wow yeah that's a real [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► like that's a real like pull back pull [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► back get out get out [TS]

00:04:17 ◼   ► yeast feels like the topic of a [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► one-issue person what I call the file [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► card person where there is one thing [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► they want to be Bernie Sanders it could [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► be bikes it could be east right how do [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► you know that how do you know that you [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► have a fireman at your party [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► mmm i give up a dino will tell you huh [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► that's one that's kind of non jokes and [TS]

00:04:39 ◼   ► it's a great joke i mean i guess you [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► have to know I guess you have to know it [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► ultrafire man I justyou have to have [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► ever had a fire it's like that that dark [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► Russian sense of humor you have you have [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► to be a nineties kids understand this [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► fireman Jack yeah that'd be the joke [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► being that a fireman is not going to [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► miss an opportunity to tell you the [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► firemen because they're here because [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► they're here [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► yeah yeah there's there's a lot of folks [TS]

00:05:04 ◼   ► like that god bless them you know what [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► thank you for your service [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► god bless them and I it was did I ever [TS]

00:05:08 ◼   ► tell you about the time mostly about [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► this the other day I regret not having [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► joined the military [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► hmm we granted when did that regret for [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► start to evidencing itself [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► well I when I was young I I always [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► assumed i would be in the military at [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► some point and then right about the time [TS]

00:05:29 ◼   ► that you are the age of someone who's [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► going to join the military right I was a [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► I was a piece Nick an anarchist yeah and [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► so not joining the military felt like a [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► real rebellion against my earlier self [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► no one was pressuring me to go into the [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► military my mom actually anytime a [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► recruiter would call the house my mom [TS]

00:05:49 ◼   ► would like to swear at them and and slam [TS]

00:05:51 ◼   ► the phone down [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► not my son that's right and she said if [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► you join the military i'm going to move [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► you to Canada or something she had some [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► idea that she could prohibit me from [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► joining the military [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► she was gonna disown because she is a [TS]

00:06:04 ◼   ► real peace activist but i thought i [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► would join the military and then during [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► the during the heyday years where was [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► like go join the military and learn [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► discipline and be a young person I it [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► wasn't in my that was part of my scene [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► but then later like when I was 30 I said [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► what I wish when I was 18 instead of the [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► scene that I did occupy I'd gone and [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► John join the military minutes but it's [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► one of those things where you're like [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► how can you say that [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► well how different would you be right [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► it's like completely different life but [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► then after 911 when I was in my [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► mid-thirties and still young enough to [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► join the military [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► I went and looked and they had been [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► they'd raise the top age and I could [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► have just gone [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► at 35 years old and said sign me up [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► I'm going to the you know going to fight [TS]

00:07:00 ◼   ► on behalf of Justice going to the big [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► game [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► whatever we thought then yeah right oh [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► LOL mixed up about the country's but you [TS]

00:07:08 ◼   ► know em um and I really thought about it [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► but you know I had a lot going on sure [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► and and now i'm too old to join the [TS]

00:07:19 ◼   ► military and it's very easy for me to [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► say boy I wish I joined the military but [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► i do feel like having a kid like some [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► other things in life you know some not [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► not bucket list because that's vulgar [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► but you know like the idea that that in [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► the course of living a full life you do [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► the you know you do the following things [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► and we got to take your boxes grown-up [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► yeah what was the you know starship [TS]

00:07:46 ◼   ► troopers right they won't even give you [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► a full citizenship and lose it and what [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► if you know it's like Israel yeah that's [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► right that's right like Israel everybody [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► goes except in Israel it seems like [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► everybody's super super sexy right [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► that's a sexy army [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► oh yeah and don't you learn like Jewish [TS]

00:08:02 ◼   ► kungfu if they have their own special [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► kungfu they teach you probably probably [TS]

00:08:08 ◼   ► they you know that's like I think of [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► them as like the tank top army em [TS]

00:08:13 ◼   ► they're carrying their guns on the [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► subway they're all wearing tank tops [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► yeah it seems like it was a good way to [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► be 19 carrying a gun and wearing a [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► tanktop taiwan occurred to me i [TS]

00:08:22 ◼   ► mentioned last week my primary high [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► school girlfriend she joined the [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► airforce when she was about once a 22 [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► maybe 23 your secondary high school [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► program by a secondary and tertiary high [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► school girlfriend occurred to me about [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► five years ago that she's probably [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► retired now from the Air Force yeah I [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► think about it as a as a lieutenant [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► colonel and she's making like a normal [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► weight for the rest of her life [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► II don't a pretty good they do yeah see [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► that's one of the really think about it [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► i really be in my country and retired [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► they pay you not very well through the [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► whole time that you're working [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► comparable to what you could probably [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► making in the real world but then they [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► continue to pay you not your full salary [TS]

00:09:02 ◼   ► but but pretty darn good but you get [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► glasses and stuff like [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► yes those nice VA hospitals me they're [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► so great the NBA and you get that [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► haircut that one haircut I definitely a [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► you were a cadet right and I was a cadet [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► we were both military cadets I for a [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► year I was as a consequence of going to [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► military school I was automatically in [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► njrotc em and give you additional Junior [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► ROTC if you just stayed in the njrotc [TS]

00:09:35 ◼   ► retirement 19 [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► yeah well they would have commissioned [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► you in the Navy you'd be an officer now [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► easily and of course i would have been [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► an officer just by virtue of having been [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► recognized as standing in the door of [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► the recruiter yeah they would have said [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► oh my god John I think they would've [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► fast-tracked you I think if everybody [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► had had had had their head together that [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► day [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► you've probably been retired a couple [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► years you know right into officer [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► candidate school huh [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► and it's sort of like if I had ever gone [TS]

00:10:01 ◼   ► 25 ever gone to Yale and stood in the [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► doorway which I never did write it as a [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► young person my gun stood in the doorway [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► somebody would have seen the light kind [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► of from behind right yeah there would [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► have been like a angel choir [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► well they could just see the cut of your [TS]

00:10:15 ◼   ► jib just from the silhouette that's [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► right from the silhouette and they would [TS]

00:10:18 ◼   ► have said Jesus Christ what are you [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► doing out there come in [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► uh-huh and maybe I would have been [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► pushing a broom but then i would have [TS]

00:10:24 ◼   ► been solving math problems on the [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► chalkboard in the you know in the night [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► RC and that's the thing is once you're [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► fast track you can really get super fast [TS]

00:10:32 ◼   ► tracked and let's be honest with you and [TS]

00:10:34 ◼   ► says uh what does he say showing up as [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► eighty percent of life you show up at [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► the Mossad or you show up to show up in [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► the doorway of Yale they're going to [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► walk you in and then once you've got a [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► literal foot in the little door then the [TS]

00:10:45 ◼   ► fast-tracking really starts and that's [TS]

00:10:47 ◼   ► when they can you become like ender you [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► know they're going to they're going to [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► move you up a lot of a lot of places [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► very very quickly they're gonna remember [TS]

00:10:53 ◼   ► the game you don't in the game after you [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► then they might try and Gaslight your [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► little bit no spoilers but the point [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► being I think at that point that they're [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► going to see they're gonna be able to [TS]

00:11:02 ◼   ► actually maybe even measure the cut of [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► your jib let's be honest and this is [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► what [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► yeah we'll go ahead no no I just I [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► disappoints me John you you should be [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► there so many things you should be [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► retired from at this point breaks my [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► heart to know to know how little your [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► jib cut was appreciated breaks my heart [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► but I don't know [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► right when you're when you're making a [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► list of the things that you ought to do [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► in the course of a life [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► yeah i don't know how many of those I've [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► done already but i do know the ones that [TS]

00:11:30 ◼   ► I've aged out of I do feel if you're [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► gonna live a full life you should have [TS]

00:11:34 ◼   ► been in the Mossad at one point [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► yeah he should have gone to Yale and and [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► gone through as a member of that the [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► njrotc and let's see should have fought [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► and overseas war retired before the age [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► of 40 [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► yeah right all these things what apps [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► should have designed to have made an [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► appt you should have made a nap after [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► winning winning an Emmy right if you got [TS]

00:12:02 ◼   ► out of the got out of the Navy or the [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► Air Force let's say huh [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► and then went to write for a hit comedy [TS]

00:12:08 ◼   ► show you become he gotta pee gotta pee [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► just an a2 it for the brilliant Mel [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► Brooks Mel Brooks puts out an app boom [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► he's a neat ah ha whatever we get Rita [TS]

00:12:20 ◼   ► Marie now [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► yeah yeah Mel Brooks who else did you [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► know that I i wrote a tweet to Rita [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► Moreno and then I put it in my drafts [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► folder and I haven't sent it i do this [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► both remember what it was i mean i'm not [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► sure if you listen to the show but [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► DeeDee of a sense of what is what you're [TS]

00:12:36 ◼   ► going to say to her I do so I don't know [TS]

00:12:39 ◼   ► if I've ever described it on this [TS]

00:12:41 ◼   ► program but when my dad was after he was [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► every had already left the washington [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► state legislature and I think maybe yes [TS]

00:12:50 ◼   ► in fact after he after he worked for [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► John F Kennedy he was bouncing around [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► let's say in Washington State [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► it seemed like he had hard to put the [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► stories all together as you know but it [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► seems like he has somewhat missed an [TS]

00:13:08 ◼   ► opportunity that in the early fifties he [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► was again fast-tracked to being am a [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► prominent Democrat in Washington and [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► then somehow he had not played his cards [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► right and Carrie was 40 years old not [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► sure which way to which way to turn [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► I don't don't really understand that [TS]

00:13:29 ◼   ► feeling yeah right and you [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► he was doing some acting now it's at the [TS]

00:13:35 ◼   ► Cirque theatre in seattle in the surc [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► was a kind of you know a little bit [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► avant-garde it was theater-in-the-round [TS]

00:13:42 ◼   ► and it was the theater space was in a [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► neighborhood that was in the early [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► sixties considered transitional which [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► remained transitional until very [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► recently and now it's very expensive in [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► the in the great in the great song the [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► great operator of America [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► yeah but at the time he was in this [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► theater company and it was a theater [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► company that did a very excellent job of [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► bringing a national and international [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► theatre people to perform in Seattle [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► this is pre world's fair and so my dad [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► was in a play with Rita marina in the [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► late fifties early sixties so it would [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► have been right around the [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► I'm gonna I'm just gonna throw out of [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► gas that it was maybe before he went to [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► work for Kennedy ok [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► 59 let's call and he's in a place with [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► Rita Moreno and he characterizes himself [TS]

00:14:49 ◼   ► now this is the same man who I don't I [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► want to make clear that he never said he [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► shot down a Japanese zero with a 45 [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► pistol he only claim to have shot at a [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► japanese air he left the conclusion of [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► that engagement to our imagination but [TS]

00:15:07 ◼   ► he implied pretty strongly that he was [TS]

00:15:13 ◼   ► going out on some dates with random rain [TS]

00:15:16 ◼   ► some dates some number of dates romantic [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► theater dates [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► mm not get otherwise engaged at this [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► point no or maybe unclear [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► this was also a transitional period he [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► was he at one point he got divorced and [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► then another point he met my mom I got [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► it [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► ok right in the same area 15 on going [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► through changes as simpana says right [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► and this is a this is the Manuel going [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► through changes right [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► that's because the victim of changes as [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► Judas Priest that's a good point but 59 [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► right this is our mad men era [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► yep everybody's really well-dressed my [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► dad at what I think at one point was [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► wearing a pencil mustache [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► well anyway went on [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► mmm unclear some dates with Rita Moreno [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► and then one night he was waiting [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► outside the theater or no no I'm sorry [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► he was escorting rita moreno out of the [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► front door of the theater on their way [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► to a date and a man steps out of the [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► shadows and I know where the Cirque [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► theater is and I know where the shadows [TS]

00:16:26 ◼   ► are I can picture the shadows there [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► right there foo man steps out of the [TS]

00:16:31 ◼   ► shadows it's marlon brando top jimmy and [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► Marlon Brando says Rita whenever I not [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► do a good Marlin ready Rita who recruit [TS]

00:16:42 ◼   ► offer get removed [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► that's pretty good thanks I just stuffed [TS]

00:16:46 ◼   ► a bunch of cotton in there and then rita [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► moreno leaves with Martin Brando dashing [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► my father's hopes now this story [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► uh-huh is not verifiable by searching [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► the archives that are currently on the [TS]

00:17:05 ◼   ► Internet [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► yeah I look at the internet and look at [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► the Cirque playhouse and I can't see [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► anything here about it right so the cert [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► playhouse we'll confirm that Rita Moreno [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► was in a production there she is this [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► here it says here that I see her name [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► here the impressive list of Hollywood [TS]

00:17:21 ◼   ► stars who trod the boards at the Cirque [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► includes many many names [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► you got it yet Bob Cummings get King [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► Donovan Marsha hunt Tab Hunter Howard [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► keel you got to ride in McDowell rita [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► moreno so I actually met on his losses [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► OOP it's I met at mcdonalds child shut [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► up and my father and the cornelius Yeti [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► already been the ape [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► yes oh my god what if that was all i was [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► a big fan I love that guy [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► I did too i just he's like the English [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► Tony Randall it's exactly who he is and [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► he he was at the time my favorite actor [TS]

00:17:55 ◼   ► and I'm not sure whether it [TS]

00:17:57 ◼   ► that's because i met him i think it is [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► largely because I met him just as Count [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► Basie was my favorite big band [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► orchestral leader he may count basie [TS]

00:18:05 ◼   ► well I stood there I stood there as my [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► dad met like that was wearing a hat [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► count basie was not working at okay um [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► my dad massive count basie then he acted [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► as though he was meeting you know [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► Richard he'll pack his genius [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► I don't want a ranger what a touch that [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► guy had I'd think I think done by just [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► so much with four notes so hot small [TS]

00:18:35 ◼   ► court small chords got those little Nat [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► King Cole cord [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► mm so but my dad didn't make a big point [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► to introduce me to count basie at the [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► time because he was pretty starstruck I [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► was just standing as me I saw goddamn [TS]

00:18:46 ◼   ► but i actually was introduced to writing [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► down all so anyway I'm i wrote this [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► tweet to read Miranda okay so wait a [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► minute was nice running dowel yeah that [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► was incredible man that's something we [TS]

00:18:59 ◼   ► hear he turned to me gave me all this [TS]

00:19:01 ◼   ► attention it was in a bit crowded room [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► the lights were up user need my entire [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► month that makes me so happy to hear it [TS]

00:19:09 ◼   ► was wide by that point the circle [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► theatre had moved was no longer in its [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► prior location it was now down in the [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► center of the city and and we would we [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► would go there sometimes because you [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► know even even in his late fifties my [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► dad was still very bohemian one of them [TS]

00:19:27 ◼   ► he was one of the theater people is one [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► of the you know one of that [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► well not really but he but he was a [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► member of a lot of guilds anyway so i [TS]

00:19:38 ◼   ► wrote this wheat to Rita Moreno who's [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► still very active on Twitter you know [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► kind of like toni tennille you don't [TS]

00:19:48 ◼   ► know that she's out there of via one kit [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► she's not you wouldn't think she's one [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► kiss away from rock on the line but it [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► turns out toni tennille is one kiss away [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► one gets away from my nie you remind me [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► of Tony tell sometimes and I I'd are you [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► following her on twitter [TS]

00:20:04 ◼   ► she's a lot of emoji know she's you know [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► she has this autobiography and she's and [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► you know it's a good autobiography she's [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► out she's tried on the board of a low of [TS]

00:20:16 ◼   ► a book author but I don't know that's [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► right they tried charging the both of us [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► okay [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► hi difficult wider planks can but so i [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► don't know how many kisses away from [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► writer from the line Rita Moreno is and [TS]

00:20:31 ◼   ► i wrote this sweet and a little bit you [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► know it's a little bit like dear reader [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► marina my dad says that he may be like [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► you never said that he that you guys [TS]

00:20:46 ◼   ► like next in a parked car [TS]

00:20:48 ◼   ► uh-huh but the young ran out of [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► characters yoohoo & in un entier hurry [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► here's the lake there's a link to the [TS]

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00:23:46 ◼   ► because rita moreno there's you know [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► there is chance that you'll read that [TS]

00:23:50 ◼   ► and she'll go oh Dave Roderick I haven't [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► thought of him in years and she'll write [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► me back go of course I remember your [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► father he played the role of of a Tony [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► Tony Randall in in our hit show at the [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► circle theatre in seattle in 1959 or [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► reading marino may not reply or she may [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► say sorry don't remember anybody by that [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► name and I don't want to you know I [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► don't want to throw my dad under the bus [TS]

00:24:17 ◼   ► I don't want to eat you don't want every [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► one of your stories fact-checked after [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► you're dead you can't win here [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► I mean certainly I hope that's not [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► that's not fair i hope that my archivist [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► goes about trying to fact-check all of [TS]

00:24:30 ◼   ► my stories because they [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► it will be that will be the subject of a [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► documentary film when that fact checker [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► when that dubious documentary film [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► series that dubious person me after I'm [TS]

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00:24:41 ◼   ► who says haha this can't all be real [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► Jonathan dubious and then find [TS]

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00:24:47 ◼   ► yep it also checks out it checks at the [TS]

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00:24:53 ◼   ► astonished until their John comment all [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► kinds of stuff you left out because it [TS]

00:24:57 ◼   ► didn't seem plausible [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► yeah that's right and then when they [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► when they find out that the story was [TS]

00:25:02 ◼   ► under told yes [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► oh how the journalist who like to check [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► facts are going to be a lot of openings [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► in the next few years I think I think [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► somebody maybe getting started right now [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► you know what I got to take your story [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► but maybe somebody comes in and get the [TS]

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00:25:16 ◼   ► this could be somebody who comes in and [TS]

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00:25:24 ◼   ► you're saying well I mean you're mean [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► like younger than I am but I'm saying [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► right now you bring somebody maybe start [TS]

00:25:29 ◼   ► interviewing people for this you get to [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► pick your own I've been watching the [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► crown on netflix now Winston Churchill [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► did not like the guy who painted his [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► portrait he didn't like the way the [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► portrait turned out no spoilers [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► he did not want to modern it's doing [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► that do you think you need to have [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► somebody who's not on board you need a [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► skeptic to come in should know where the [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► cowboy boots are you should just read [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► over it on your own after your death [TS]

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00:25:50 ◼   ► right now is going to be engaged in a [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► project is going to want to be engaged [TS]

00:25:54 ◼   ► in the project for reasons that will [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► diminish their capacity to say wait a [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► minute trying to do credulous right now [TS]

00:26:03 ◼   ► a little yeah it has to happen Lee it [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► has to happen when somebody like well I [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► think that fact checking in journalism [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► like digging down is going to be very [TS]

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00:26:19 ◼   ► huh [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► right like it's going to be in and like [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► a sort of an anachronism some young kid [TS]

00:26:26 ◼   ► is going to say you know what [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► back in the old days journalists like [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► took a critical i was trying to figure [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► it out to totally figure out of things [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► are probably true right and then they're [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► gonna then they this young hipsters [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► going to be like that's what I'm gonna [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► get into [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► this is gonna make me really cool i'm [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► going to get into this whole like [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► journalism and maybe make I mean there's [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► probably going to be a lot of things [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► that they can investigate more [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► interesting than me but let's say one of [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► them like I want to just be so this is [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► gonna be the i'm going to be the most [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► obscure I me I'm some peasant bring this [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► up [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► trigger warning but mm ah Marlon Brando [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► and rita moreno did have a torrid affair [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► yeah according to the internet but he [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► cheated on her so much she tried to take [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► her own life [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► oh my goodness i'm not saying anything [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► one way or another I don't know did this [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► government's become free to her I don't [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► know if it's gonna be you know sand in [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► her gears but maybe just keep that in [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► mind wallet in your drafts folder so [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► circa when I don't know I don't visit [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► the daily mail or new york post but i'm [TS]

00:27:37 ◼   ► looking at just in the search results [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► also a very if you go in search on their [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► two names to see a very cool picture of [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► them in bed together [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► oh well I mean I bet from from my dad's [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► story it I always kind of put together a [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► picture of the fact that Marlon Brando [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► and she already had a long history [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► yeah and that this was one of those [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► things where he showed up thinking [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► probably release from treading the [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► boards [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► uh yeah and also probably from sexy time [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► yeah that's kind of bored reading I if [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► you're doing it if you're treading it if [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► you're treading on boards [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► uh-huh that's a different that's very [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► sexy he probably got that means that [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► you're not you're not confined to soft [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► places right you're gonna you're willing [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► to just do it out anywhere you mix it up [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► a little bit about the strange hmmm but [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► what I'm guessing is that Marlon Brando [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► steps out of the this is what I've [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► always guessed he steps out of the dark [TS]

00:28:38 ◼   ► Rita Moreno was not expecting in there [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► and also probably you know would have [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► said if you'd asked her what Marlon [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► Brando steps out of the Dark Shadows [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► what are you going to do list includes [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► therefore young listeners this is marlon [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► brando in the fifties that's right and [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► Marlon Brando fifties is not the Marlon [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► Brando you have in your head [TS]

00:28:56 ◼   ► right now he's a very handsome man in [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► the fifties Marlon Brando in the fifties [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► not single-handedly but he helped upset [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► an idea of sexy male masculinity in a [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► very interesting way because he was he [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► was he was really good looking he was [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► really masculine but like maybe say what [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► James has got the jacket jacket yeah [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► like James jacket the guy Danny [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► automobile accident oh yeah that's right [TS]

00:29:24 ◼   ► James acting like a majestic forever [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► young lord for he got the vulnerability [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► you got maybe a little bit not [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► sensitivity is a fraught work i think [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► that's correct but like you wouldn't [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► rule out these may be bisexual [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► oh no I don't know what out at all i [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► don't think people had a name for that I [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► don't think people i mean they had some [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► majority of names but i think people saw [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► something that would be taken so many oh [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► right and i think i think you see using [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► that James jacket movie they can take [TS]

00:29:56 ◼   ► him take him [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► yeah I think he had drug problems later [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► on which is a shame bisexuality was [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► understood to be a thing and I think [TS]

00:30:02 ◼   ► that it was you know it was something in [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► New York City that was maybe even chic [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► but sometimes people they throw a shape [TS]

00:30:10 ◼   ► they got they got a certain kind of vibe [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► and I'm saying is as great a man is that [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► let's be honest David rock was a great [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► man i would not want to be seeing Marlon [TS]

00:30:17 ◼   ► Brando come out of the shadows while I'm [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► trying to make x ray Marino also know I [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► don't know [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► so reading here just a little bit right [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► Rita a twenty-two-year-old rita moreno [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► met the thirty-year-old Marlon Brando in [TS]

00:30:30 ◼   ► 1954 so a long time before this and uh I [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► cannot say this doesn't seem like [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► reading Moreno's voice but the new york [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► post a paragon of journalistic integrity [TS]

00:30:47 ◼   ► is never wrong quotes are here to say [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► that he was a great lover sensual [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► generous delightfully inventive would be [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► gravely understating what he did not [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► only to my body but for my soul every [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► aspect of being with Marlon was [TS]

00:31:07 ◼   ► thrilling [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► because he was more engaged in the world [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► than anyone else i've ever known [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► she writes I totally believe that mm I [TS]

00:31:16 ◼   ► think he feels I think he felt things [TS]

00:31:19 ◼   ► very very deeply well but she goes on [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► Khun possibly as an outgrowth of this [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► now this isn't quoting i'm not sure that [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► we're still post now i'm not sure how [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► the New York Post does its backchecking [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► yeah but she says or someone says the [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► New York Post writer says possibly as an [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► outgrowth of this he had insatiable [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► sexual needs which he unabashedly [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► pursued with droves of other women the [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► so here we are insatiable unabashedly [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► and droves [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► now that's broke my heart and came close [TS]

00:31:58 ◼   ► to crushing my very spirit with his [TS]

00:32:01 ◼   ► physical infidelity and worse with his [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► emotional betrayal so this all happened [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► before my dad before my dad met Rita [TS]

00:32:11 ◼   ► Moreno and maybe mm date md went on went [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► on date this is not getting simpler as a [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► story now know and so when he steps out [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► of the shadows right he's the guy that's [TS]

00:32:25 ◼   ► almost that's broken heart he's the guy [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► that's caused her to you know him crush [TS]

00:32:31 ◼   ► almost crusher very spirit and yet she [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► can't resist him and leaves my dad [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► standing just adjacent to the shadows [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► and adjacent to the shadows would be a [TS]

00:32:45 ◼   ► great huh [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► auto by our autobiography titled uh-huh [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► if you're going to drop the author board [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► and and then off they go into the night [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► and then that's where the story ends my [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► dad does not he does not follow up with [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► like well then the next day we had to [TS]

00:33:01 ◼   ► keep doing this play [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► he didn't say that was the last I ever [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► saw are you know there's always that [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► there's always the rest of the story [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► which a lot of times you don't get [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► because the dramatic moment isn't and [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► then we kept doing the play for two [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► weeks the dramatic moment is like [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► Marlon Brando she's good storytelling [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► yeah that's right but i dunno i have no [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► idea i'm and and the internet is silent [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► for the internet is the internet is [TS]

00:33:26 ◼   ► intentionally meet on the subject maybe [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► in the fullness of time your own [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► incredulous biographer will be able to [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► work on this i'm thinking here of [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► reading the the Alexander Hamilton [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► biography like all biographies it begins [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► way before that person was born if you [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► can do a biography you know well you [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► take for example the great album cover [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► Goldman biography of Elvis one of the [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► great biographies that begins with us [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► being fitted into a course in getting [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► his hand and getting his diarrhea [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► medicine before he goes on stage along [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► with the speed that sets the stage for [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► the Elvis you're gonna you're gonna get [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► here but most biography start a long [TS]

00:33:58 ◼   ► time before we're going to learn about [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► Alexander Hamilton's yet grandparents [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► before we learn about Alexander you know [TS]

00:34:03 ◼   ► I'm saying yeah yeah so with you I mean [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► obviously there's going to be some solid [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► David Roderick material but i don't know [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► i don't know we've talked about this [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► before like a little checks [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► it's not gonna make well but yeah I [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► don't think there's a check i don't [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► think it goes back as far as a checked [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► that would have liked on the bottom of [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► it you know dinner with Rita but Rita [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► Moreno in the same article references [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► being looked up and down by a by a [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► predatory animal who spotted his prey [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► and paralyzes it with that look and [TS]

00:34:34 ◼   ► later on she sees that same predatory [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► animal in the in Life Magazine turns out [TS]

00:34:40 ◼   ► john f kennedy hall dear and then after [TS]

00:34:43 ◼   ► Marlon Brando she dated a berry as she [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► describes him a very disappointing [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► dennis hopper and the lamb boy Elvis [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► i'll come on [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► so in addition to read aria in addition [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► to e got also relationships with with [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► the Elvis Marlon Brando and potentially [TS]

00:35:06 ◼   ► my dad although you know he never my dad [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► was not lascivious right he was like the [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► only also you know you have to you have [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► to remove these cataracts of history and [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► go well that's the dennis hopper the [TS]

00:35:16 ◼   ► fifties that's Elvis Presley of the [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► fifties and if you get your idea of [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► Elvis from the fat Elvis stamp man go [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► watch Elvis in like 56 it's a whole [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► different scene man look but yeah man [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► but even look at him in the 68 Comeback [TS]

00:35:27 ◼   ► 68 Comeback now that synthetic means [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► again [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► but he but it but it doesn't read as [TS]

00:35:33 ◼   ► investment would he bring God brings he [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► bring some motherfucking ruckus in that [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► for shutdown he's got a lot of you know [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► why it does sir can you imagine how much [TS]

00:35:40 ◼   ► better your life would be if you get [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► Scotty Moore get Scotty Moore in count [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► basie I'm just saying you get some [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► tasteful people in your band to mention [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► the superb and you can have to if you [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► have if you have Scotty more on guitar [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► hero count basie on the keys who also [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► gonna bring in that band to have the [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► world's most tasteful backup band for [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► John Rother now Blaine how Blaine right [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► how blankie mentioned the patience of [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► that man how patient he must have been I [TS]

00:36:06 ◼   ► don't think of him as very patient [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► well he's had a lot of problems in the [TS]

00:36:09 ◼   ► cellars awards and stuff but you know [TS]

00:36:11 ◼   ► just having to go through all all of [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► like Phil Spector and Brian Wilson [TS]

00:36:16 ◼   ► making a beat with their mouth and say [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► and do that now change it uh-huh yeah [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► just yeah right like sitting in the room [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► while Brian Wilson goes 400 takes those [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► stories are so great just you see that [TS]

00:36:27 ◼   ► wrecking crew documentary but they would [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► just show up and it would just be like [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► dozens of people in the room perfect for [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► uppers just over and over and sometimes [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► nothing is Brian went to figure out how [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► to make it seem like a fire engine or [TS]

00:36:39 ◼   ► whatever [TS]

00:36:39 ◼   ► yeah Brian Brian would eat one reason [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► might look learn to play the theremin um [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► so yeah if i had how blame and Carol k [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► just sitting in chairs smoking [TS]

00:36:50 ◼   ► cigarettes at my shadow and the cat eye [TS]

00:36:52 ◼   ► sunglasses [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► uh yes I didn't read my story [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► yes and then Scotty Moore playing the [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► guitar well and speed proper playing you [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► don't mean you know if you have the [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► wrecking crew at your disposal [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► ok that's pretty good that's that's [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► pretty advanced right yeah right and the [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► and the and abandoned analyzed on [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► playing second base you think why is [TS]

00:37:13 ◼   ► that work tom petty that's not there [TS]

00:37:15 ◼   ► why not have the whole thing of being [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► recorded by george martin george more or [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► Nigel goodrich magic which you've been [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► watching sound breaking having you admit [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► i just discovered it last night how [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► fucking great sound breaking it's so [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► great I with more than you expect you [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► thinking this large another talking [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► heads music documentary but holy shit [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► it's so good helbling watched three [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► episodes right in a row [TS]

00:37:41 ◼   ► me too and I said this is really good [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► why why is this not why are there not [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► billboards in Times Square for this [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► why do we have to keep watching like me [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► Kevin James make more material and i'm [TS]

00:37:54 ◼   ► not opposed to kevin james but he [TS]

00:37:56 ◼   ► produces a lot of culture a lot pic i [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► think disproportionate with his what is [TS]

00:38:02 ◼   ► like is mm objective value right like [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► here's Kevin James he's fine he's good i [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► like impossible reason he's not sir [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► Kevin James but you don't even have an [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► OBE at all he's no he got but he's got [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► he's got he's got a new TV show where he [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► sits on the roof of his house in a in a [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► lawn chair and place a blue-collar guy [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► with it with a suspiciously life and now [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► he's in the subways here I see he's got [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► a movie where he's a like he's a [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► implausibly overweight like assassin [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► you've got a premise that's that strong [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► and you bring in a Kevin James at the [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► license to print money my friend [TS]

00:38:45 ◼   ► listen I'm gonna sell this in the room [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► CIA assassin ok get stuck in the door [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► food who now is a mall cop [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► yeah well some guys will have it a shot [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► and shove the charge mystery took you [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► have the universe documentary [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► yes I'm taneous contemporaneous with the [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► all this kevin james culture documentary [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► where they interview literally all of [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► the Giants of popular music and they're [TS]

00:39:16 ◼   ► all and and the the script for it is [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► just this sort of seamless beautiful [TS]

00:39:22 ◼   ► well into that steel two quick things my [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► friend is this a podcast with that with [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► TV critic Tim Goodman call TV talking [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► two things on a crib from him number one [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► soon [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► I guess when George Martin's involved [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► you can find some pretty fucking amazing [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► video footage that's right no better [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► right exists reduction come with that [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► come from but also the canny way that [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► it's not the usual [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► ok now let's talk about glam rock now [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► let's talk about new wave now let's talk [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► about blues just the stuff about Bessie [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► Bessie Jones right just like getting [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► like the q-tips got a thought on that [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► like every everywhere every person has a [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► not on this thing and you start to see [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► it and I think pretty fairly how the [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► pieces fit together right you listen I [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► mean Roger Waters is a very difficult [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► person he was so gracious in this i'm [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► not sure that was him he's beautiful in [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► this thing and he's like you so Roger [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► water says and just it comes it's cut [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► out of nowhere they're talking about [TS]

00:40:12 ◼   ► something completely else and then all [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► of a sudden Roger Waters it says when [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► they first played Sergeant Pepper all [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► the way through on the radio we people [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► off the road were on tour in a man it's [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► being floated on tour in a van [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► we pulled off to the side of the road to [TS]

00:40:25 ◼   ► listen to the entire album on the car [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► stereo and were like blown away and said [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► like how do we do next and you just go [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► uh-huh right boom like that people here [TS]

00:40:39 ◼   ► all the time sergeant pepper very [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► influential album [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► yeah but here's Roger Waters and you [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► know like in 1968 pink floyd and when [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► you think about think about what was [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► going on then with those homies yeah [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► here it is sergeant pepper in there like [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► its theatrical music its theater and yet [TS]

00:41:00 ◼   ► it's also pop music and go but also that [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► theme that keeps coming up probably [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► because it's very George Martin E that [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► concept that certainly reached its apex [TS]

00:41:10 ◼   ► with stealing damn the the concept of [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► making music that you can't play live [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► the idea is we're going to make [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► something here sergeant pepper is not [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► meant to be something where we go to [TS]

00:41:19 ◼   ► Shea Stadium with no monitors and yell [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► really loud [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► this is meant to be there are things [TS]

00:41:23 ◼   ► happening here that can actually happen [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► even with a real band [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► yeah that's touched it sits on your [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► rights to it in sorry i had to get a dig [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► it [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► you hired the hit maker yes in the car [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► what I what what I came away from the [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► three episodes with though I mean aside [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► from like 700 wonderful moments and [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► wonderful feelings was like watching [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► nigel godrich who was no older than the [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► radiohead bro he's so young [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► yeah and he's just in the studio with [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► them and they're just doing their thing [TS]

00:42:03 ◼   ► and [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► the collaborate the collaborative [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► feeling of making a record with a making [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► a record with somebody where it where it [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► also feels like they have all the time [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► in the world right there Lefty keeps [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► coming up of like making it like a safe [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► and secure place you can be vulnerable [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► you can try things [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► yeah and they're just a their member of [TS]

00:42:27 ◼   ► the band yeah and it's not a thing where [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► you say you know oh well we've only got [TS]

00:42:33 ◼   ► three more hours and then it all has to [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► you know we have to wrap it up because [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► there's another session in here and and [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► do bros gotta you know gotta make a [TS]

00:42:44 ◼   ► living [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► it's like we're in here until this gets [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► done [TS]

00:42:50 ◼   ► did you see the voice episode of yeah [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► we're adele is developing first time [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► I've ever really thought well sea diver [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► i watch that one twice and the first of [TS]

00:43:02 ◼   ► the second time i watched it I don't [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► know the christina aguilera think that's [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► a little bit contrived but the first [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► time I watched it I was really moved and [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► it reminded me of you a little bit and [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► your your philosophy of like we're not [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► going to this is not hound dog [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► we're not going to do this 42 times and [TS]

00:43:16 ◼   ► I don't know that story about her was [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► exactly true but it worked for me I [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► thought that was such a great bit even [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► if even if it was massage a little bit [TS]

00:43:23 ◼   ► who knows and apparel maker but but that [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► story of her wanting to redo her first [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► take the entire time that they were [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► recording and then settling on the last [TS]

00:43:32 ◼   ► one thing okay you can do it one more [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► time but don't stop after one minute [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► stop not as good as the first one stop [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► we're done [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► is that what did you think when you saw [TS]

00:43:38 ◼   ► that my so I wasn't able to see the [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► voice all the way through [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► oh gee sorry spoilers it's okay because [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► because my uh my roommate in my hotel [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► room here in New York City [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► let's call it my roommate yeah said at [TS]

00:43:59 ◼   ► four thirty in the morning and you turn [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► that down haha [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► after watching three straight episodes [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► of it haha planet what are you watching [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► it on we watching on ipad i know i was [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► watching on the hotel television because [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► it's a public television show on PBS [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► that he had like on demand [TS]

00:44:17 ◼   ► no it's on PBS it was just it i just [TS]

00:44:20 ◼   ► looked into it was just I was looking [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► through the channels watching procedure [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► all crime dramas and like autopsy [TS]

00:44:27 ◼   ► photographs cool i saw that their I've [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► been watching him in the PBS app they're [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► all up PS like a fucking just put them [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► all up but that's so cool so you were [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► watching him like wow that's exciting [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► that's even so online i'm flipping [TS]

00:44:36 ◼   ► through the channels right yeah and I [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► come upon episode 1 in the first minute [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► I look what's this I wonder match and [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► then like so three episodes later I hear [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► I hear this voice can you turn that down [TS]

00:44:52 ◼   ► and I ended my first reaction is you [TS]

00:44:55 ◼   ► have no idea what i'm watching here like [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► no I can't turn it down i should turn it [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► up yeah we should turn all the lights on [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► well now that exploded for you it's [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► basically a parrot Perry talking about [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► awaiting the weight I get what you're [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► saying [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► I understand what it is because of this [TS]

00:45:09 ◼   ► for many years within the music business [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► it has been fairly common barely [TS]

00:45:18 ◼   ► understood knowledge that christina [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► aguilera is the hardest-working singer [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► in the game her legs everybody agrees [TS]

00:45:29 ◼   ► everybody talks about it and and because [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► it sounds amazing at first you think [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► like I just she's just super talented [TS]

00:45:35 ◼   ► she shows up she has done little checks [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► out [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► yeah she's got some kind of cup of tea [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► over here she works for an hour and then [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► says you know fix it in the mix or [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► whatever but everybody says she's a [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► perfectionist and she just she works [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► harder than anybody else in the room and [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► as soon as Linda Perry showed up on the [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► screen [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► you know I have I she's very out she's [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► very outspoken she's done a lot of [TS]

00:46:01 ◼   ► amazing work in the music industry but [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► she's also someone who's wearing a hat [TS]

00:46:07 ◼   ► she's got a lot of neck tattoos and a [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► story yeah she's got a lot of neck to [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► she's got an unusual have anything like [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► that [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► yeah unusual hat I mean that's what [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► divorces me from for a little bit [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► John used to have yeah ben harper in [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► that episode also wearing a hat [TS]

00:46:23 ◼   ► he's got started to like happiness [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► towards he's got a story i'm saying you [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► know what I mean this is like this is [TS]

00:46:28 ◼   ► not the first time you've told this [TS]

00:46:30 ◼   ► anecdote that's [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► yeah do you remember the first Ben [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► Harper record I know Ben Harper's name [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► that's it [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► so ben harper now is a member of the [TS]

00:46:42 ◼   ► sort of horde to her culture right you [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► think of him now and somebody within the [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► john mayer school of like em a little [TS]

00:46:53 ◼   ► bit what I when I think of is like [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► greasy dentist office music you know [TS]

00:46:59 ◼   ► like it's not just dentist office music [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► it's a little bit greasy to like the [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► band train but it's just like it's on [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► but it's in the dentist office so it's [TS]

00:47:07 ◼   ► not offending anybody doesn't have been [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► middle-aged people that are getting the [TS]

00:47:10 ◼   ► peat cleaned but it's also trying to rep [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► that it's either rock or blues in some [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► kind of real spit in like oh this is the [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► blues and it's not about the Blues [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► something else it's something that [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► little greasy but the first Ben Harper [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► record was because ben harper and erick [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► is almost exactly the same age I think [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► and it came out in the nineties not even [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► the late nineties and it was really good [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► it was a huge this young guy that was [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► playing lap steel at a time when kind of [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► nobody was playing lap steel and it had [TS]

00:47:48 ◼   ► these good tunes on it and 1992 yeah and [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► it was being played in all the cool [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► Seattle cafes it was like it was it did [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► feel like here's a here's a guy that is [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► doing something nobody else is doing is [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► very authentic and these are good teams [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► right it felt like the 1st Lenny Kravitz [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► record where you're like what is this [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► guy huh [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► he's even better than terence trent [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► d'arby but then as time goes on [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► somehow they pick their they picked [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► their culture it's not what you think [TS]

00:48:18 ◼   ► their culture is going to be or maybe [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► their culture picks them [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► I've told you have an eye about the time [TS]

00:48:23 ◼   ► like modest mouse in seattle and in the [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► nineties was very cool young funky weird [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► band doing some weird weird in angular [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► yeah kind of kind of that initially [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► there a little bit like almost parallel [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► hubli yet right Isaac Brock would buy [TS]

00:48:40 ◼   ► the cheapest guitar he could find with a [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► with a whammy bar he would take the [TS]

00:48:44 ◼   ► whammy bar [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► off and he would put his hand under the [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► floating bridge at the back of the [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► guitar and would manually whammy the [TS]

00:48:53 ◼   ► bridge well we're wrong why don't we [TS]

00:48:55 ◼   ► like he was he was doing that now with a [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► whammy bar but just with the palm of his [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► hand the butt of his hand it was like [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► that kids doing something that nobody [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► else is doing and then I was act i was [TS]

00:49:06 ◼   ► at the show which I think was the [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► turning point for modest mouse which was [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► one day they were playing the crocodile [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► cafe for their usual they expected their [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► usual audience of 240 people and it was [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► not their usual audience there was a [TS]

00:49:21 ◼   ► sold-out show 350 people and the [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► additional hundred people were all [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► wearing white baseball caps backwards [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► and modest mouse took the stage and were [TS]

00:49:35 ◼   ► like whoa who are you and the hundred [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► people went Wow modest mouse looked on [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► stage horrified they looked as horrified [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► as the as we were in the audience like [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► who are these guys and it was the bros n [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► roses he discovered them the bros [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► discovered modest mouse and the bros [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► came at where formerly there had been no [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► bros there were now bros and the next [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► time modest mouse played the 240 people [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► who had followed their careers up until [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► that point were gone and in their place [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► were 900 bros and off they went I mean [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► that was their career and you could you [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► could tell they didn't want that you [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► know you can see on their faces like no [TS]

00:50:26 ◼   ► no no we want to we want the bar friends [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► but you don't get to pick your audience [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► and I wonder if that didn't happen to [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► Ben Harper where been hyper was like wow [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► what a while and one day they were all [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► all these like joe michaels or dave [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► michaels or what's in st. Michael's LOL [TS]

00:50:50 ◼   ► yea jacket jacket right jack jack jack [TS]

00:50:54 ◼   ► touch and then they were all there [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► and uh and then it's like well you know [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► but you don't get to pick your audience [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► you gotta you gotta play for the people [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► that are buying the ticket lots of [TS]

00:51:08 ◼   ► crowded West came out in 1997 at least [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► that's the first 1i owned i think one [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► before that was a dub narcotic with a [TS]

00:51:20 ◼   ► candle in 1k the they did everything [TS]

00:51:24 ◼   ► right [TS]

00:51:24 ◼   ► oh I mean in the in those early early [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► days it's not that they did everything [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► right it's that everybody liked them [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► yeah they were quirky they were really [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► good and you know I I they they made an [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► album that never they made some [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► recordings that never came out that are [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► kind of owned by a friend of mines that [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► still sit on his shelf on tape and he [TS]

00:51:46 ◼   ► said that when they were 19 years old [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► they were literally sniffing glue [TS]

00:51:51 ◼   ► huh and that feels very authentic yeah [TS]

00:51:53 ◼   ► like glue sniffing hmm [TS]

00:51:56 ◼   ► right sure that's like wow you got it [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► you got to kind of stop and put your [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► finger on your chin and stare up at the [TS]

00:52:03 ◼   ► ceiling after certain age that when [TS]

00:52:05 ◼   ► you're doing and what you're doing it to [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► be cool [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► you're just sniffing glue because we [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► think they'll never catch on in New York [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► I mean as it is right now [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► last time i was in new york i just felt [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► like everybody was smoking and now I'm [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► here in San Francisco for smoking might [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► as well be masturbating into a back its [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► it really looks like you said look I'm [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► so sorry i just got 10 minutes i'm [TS]

00:52:27 ◼   ► really stressed out you know anyone [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► who's anyone could get hot you never [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► know if you like New York really really [TS]

00:52:34 ◼   ► doesn't just is just doesn't care [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► and it's not ever going to care I [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► remember one smoking was first outlawed [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► in Los Angeles and there were all these [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► bars where they so Los Angeles used to [TS]

00:52:50 ◼   ► have a thing I don't think it does it [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► anymore [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► but it used to be very fashionable in LA [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► to turn the lights down in the bar so [TS]

00:52:57 ◼   ► low that you felt like you were in a [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► catacomb could walk into a normal bar [TS]

00:53:03 ◼   ► that normal couches and people sitting [TS]

00:53:06 ◼   ► around and the lights were so freaking [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► well they couldn't he was like you can't [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► really navigate this social space [TS]

00:53:12 ◼   ► because if everyone is just in shadow [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► very safe it was not it didn't feel I [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► was not and that you know I was rock and [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► roll but I was not that comfortable [TS]

00:53:23 ◼   ► being in a room with 300 people that I [TS]

00:53:26 ◼   ► couldn't see because of dark not because [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► if it was stranded people I couldn't see [TS]

00:53:31 ◼   ► because of smoked a line chart and [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► people I couldn't see before organic [TS]

00:53:36 ◼   ► that's more like a grassroots kind of [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► darkness [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► yeah smoking up smoke it up but when [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► smoking was first outlawed in Los [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► Angeles there were all these bars where [TS]

00:53:44 ◼   ► it was clear that that somebody said [TS]

00:53:46 ◼   ► we're just not going to force that and [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► so there was suddenly not just not just [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► the normal amount of smoking is cool but [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► now this additional like smoking is [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► illegal [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► I don't think that I don't think that [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► goes on in la anymore i think that that [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► was very that was very brief and then [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► people realized women were la like wheat [TS]

00:54:06 ◼   ► per capita 40 avocados a week remember [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► capital that's a lot of condos you know [TS]

00:54:14 ◼   ► yeah you know that's why of that's why [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► global warming is that right yeah [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► because of the avocados avocados you can [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► get in California but people in 40 a day [TS]

00:54:24 ◼   ► what you got yet probably have a 90 [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► million people in LA so many million [TS]

00:54:28 ◼   ► people something like the times x 40 [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► avocados a day that's like 3600 avocados [TS]

00:54:32 ◼   ► easy so that's why global warming haha [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► yes [TS]

00:54:37 ◼   ► not because there's not the kind of [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► journalism that we used to have now and [TS]

00:54:41 ◼   ► the smoke is probably not helping i see [TS]

00:54:43 ◼   ► i think the smoking is out [TS]

00:54:44 ◼   ► oh is it turns out John I'm looking out [TS]

00:54:47 ◼   ► started smoking again i'm looking at [TS]

00:54:50 ◼   ► sniffing glue here on the internet [TS]

00:54:52 ◼   ► locker room you don't see locker room [TS]

00:54:54 ◼   ► and rush like he is too with locker room [TS]

00:54:58 ◼   ► oh yeah I've heard them called amyl [TS]

00:54:59 ◼   ► nitrates I think the poppers but we just [TS]

00:55:02 ◼   ► get a bottle of it and start it right [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► out of the box [TS]

00:55:05 ◼   ► all you're telling me that used to snort [TS]

00:55:07 ◼   ► amyl nitrate I didn't know that's what [TS]

00:55:09 ◼   ► it was called then I I see four years i [TS]

00:55:11 ◼   ► heard angle nitrate as the drug that you [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► would use in a gay bar today [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► well see to me you would go to it i [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► don't know i never knew why you went to [TS]

00:55:19 ◼   ► a sex shop to get it but you would go to [TS]

00:55:21 ◼   ► a sex shop and you play something on the [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► order of five to eight dollars for a [TS]

00:55:24 ◼   ► bottle of in Florida was called rush in [TS]

00:55:26 ◼   ► most other places it was called locker [TS]

00:55:28 ◼   ► room [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► oh my god locker room locker room holy [TS]

00:55:32 ◼   ► shit never occur to me till now so yeah [TS]

00:55:34 ◼   ► right God's right it's right here on the [TS]

00:55:36 ◼   ► label Bingbing you know you and you can [TS]

00:55:38 ◼   ► you could snort that and I you know I [TS]

00:55:40 ◼   ► used to do a fair amount that you clumsy [TS]

00:55:42 ◼   ► ox my sense of smell nitrate was that it [TS]

00:55:45 ◼   ► was a thing that you did right as you [TS]

00:55:46 ◼   ► were orgasm [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► yeah and and it turned your you know [TS]

00:55:50 ◼   ► talk about jacking off in a bag [TS]

00:55:52 ◼   ► yeah I control the whole thing into like [TS]

00:55:55 ◼   ► a well-liked man on Coney Island it was [TS]

00:55:58 ◼   ► a lot to recommend it yes certainly [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► you're gonna have a brain-damaged [TS]

00:56:01 ◼   ► situation but but the beauty of it was [TS]

00:56:02 ◼   ► you could take it you could pretty [TS]

00:56:04 ◼   ► easily get that into a concert and you [TS]

00:56:06 ◼   ► can keep it in your car and it was the [TS]

00:56:08 ◼   ► kind of thing where like if you smoked a [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► doobie you're gonna have lots of smoke [TS]

00:56:11 ◼   ► and stuff but like with with with locker [TS]

00:56:14 ◼   ► room you get really super-high for like [TS]

00:56:16 ◼   ► 90 seconds and in Gila headache and it [TS]

00:56:17 ◼   ► goes away you do it again [TS]

00:56:19 ◼   ► soccer room locker room you know the [TS]

00:56:22 ◼   ► inhalant of choice in Alaska at the time [TS]

00:56:24 ◼   ► was nitrous oxide and we would go to the [TS]

00:56:27 ◼   ► party sometimes that's made a comeback [TS]

00:56:28 ◼   ► we find a lot of those on the street [TS]

00:56:30 ◼   ► here [TS]

00:56:30 ◼   ► nitrous yep it's a column yeah we but we [TS]

00:56:34 ◼   ► would go we don't we need weapons but we [TS]

00:56:36 ◼   ► also went to the party supply store and [TS]

00:56:39 ◼   ► would buy like a canister besides pretty [TS]

00:56:42 ◼   ► costly if you buy a man with it [TS]

00:56:44 ◼   ► format even if you've got a cracker in a [TS]

00:56:46 ◼   ► balloon that's that gets pretty costly [TS]

00:56:48 ◼   ► yeah you so we that's why we would buy [TS]

00:56:50 ◼   ► them in these like fire extinguisher [TS]

00:56:52 ◼   ► sized you can't you saying you cut out [TS]

00:56:54 ◼   ► the middleman cut out the middleman mhm [TS]

00:56:56 ◼   ► and we'd say we're putting on up [TS]

00:56:58 ◼   ► we're doing a party for our high school [TS]

00:57:00 ◼   ► home and we'd like to buy a thing of [TS]

00:57:02 ◼   ► this for our balloons and they would be [TS]

00:57:03 ◼   ► like here you go son have a good time [TS]

00:57:06 ◼   ► now with cream party and then there was [TS]

00:57:08 ◼   ► an adapter [TS]

00:57:09 ◼   ► mhm you would screw on it that would [TS]

00:57:11 ◼   ► allow you to fill up balloons and of [TS]

00:57:13 ◼   ► course how do you use nitrous oxide you [TS]

00:57:15 ◼   ► fill up a balloon we switch balloons you [TS]

00:57:17 ◼   ► think about going [TS]

00:57:18 ◼   ► shopping buy this thing we call it a [TS]

00:57:19 ◼   ► cracker what is this thing that there [TS]

00:57:21 ◼   ► was a bespoke item laconic brass [TS]

00:57:23 ◼   ► knuckles you open it up and stick the [TS]

00:57:25 ◼   ► little whip it in there and then you had [TS]

00:57:26 ◼   ► a our kids punch balloon attached to [TS]

00:57:28 ◼   ► that [TS]

00:57:29 ◼   ► yeah points and classic ugly drug [TS]

00:57:31 ◼   ► paraphernalia [TS]

00:57:32 ◼   ► yeah but we never no one was hip to amyl [TS]

00:57:36 ◼   ► nitrate in Alaska we were too busy doing [TS]

00:57:38 ◼   ► nitrous let alone and I think nitrous so [TS]

00:57:43 ◼   ► it's nice it's wit very superior it's a [TS]

00:57:47 ◼   ► wonderful wonderful high if you've never [TS]

00:57:48 ◼   ► tried it i highly recommend it and I'm [TS]

00:57:50 ◼   ► not a doctor I'm not a medical doctor [TS]

00:57:52 ◼   ► friend introduced me to nitrous oxide [TS]

00:57:54 ◼   ► and dancing siouxsie and the banshees [TS]

00:57:55 ◼   ► and I never looked back [TS]

00:57:56 ◼   ► I was listening to Siouxsie and the [TS]

00:57:58 ◼   ► Banshees the other day yeah said their [TS]

00:58:00 ◼   ► lives and uh well matter and i'll tell [TS]

00:58:08 ◼   ► you if we don't know imagine that [TS]

00:58:09 ◼   ► imagine get the 12 inch of that the [TS]

00:58:11 ◼   ► really long version [TS]

00:58:12 ◼   ► yeah you doing some nitrous think about [TS]

00:58:13 ◼   ► that for a minute buddy i am thinking [TS]

00:58:15 ◼   ► about it i miss you at least want to [TS]

00:58:17 ◼   ► masturbate in the bag [TS]

00:58:18 ◼   ► I lived it lived it and I it's also you [TS]

00:58:25 ◼   ► know nitrous oxide is very good with [TS]

00:58:26 ◼   ► with classic classic era of British [TS]

00:58:29 ◼   ► heavy metal [TS]

00:58:30 ◼   ► oh yeah yeah yeah and it's I can also [TS]

00:58:33 ◼   ► well i'm not suggesting this I don't [TS]

00:58:34 ◼   ► think it's a good idea but it can also [TS]

00:58:36 ◼   ► be nice when you're super high [TS]

00:58:38 ◼   ► ok so this is this is the thing and this [TS]

00:58:40 ◼   ► is what I've never fully legit dr pepper [TS]

00:58:42 ◼   ► with that what you used to drink dr. [TS]

00:58:44 ◼   ► pepper is that right yeah well mountain [TS]

00:58:45 ◼   ► dew unnecessary monday and then dr. [TS]

00:58:47 ◼   ► pepper as as time went on I said look [TS]

00:58:50 ◼   ► mountains for kids [TS]

00:58:52 ◼   ► yeah a dr pepper is a sophisticated [TS]

00:58:54 ◼   ► drink sophisticated because because it's [TS]

00:58:58 ◼   ► old and you feel like an old-world drink [TS]

00:59:01 ◼   ► it's an old-world drink you think of you [TS]

00:59:02 ◼   ► know like an old man is going to order a [TS]

00:59:04 ◼   ► dr pepper and a soda fountain [TS]

00:59:05 ◼   ► yeah it's got like a pretty taste [TS]

00:59:07 ◼   ► nobody's gonna order a mountain dew this [TS]

00:59:08 ◼   ► I mean mountain dew is like it if you're [TS]

00:59:11 ◼   ► down in the different and strange [TS]

00:59:12 ◼   ► fucking MOOCs in cheeps fuck that if [TS]

00:59:15 ◼   ► you're if you're in the Appalachians and [TS]

00:59:16 ◼   ► you say mountain dew you might get a [TS]

00:59:18 ◼   ► moonshot oh are you might get my get a [TS]

00:59:21 ◼   ► bottle of crystal meth [TS]

00:59:22 ◼   ► I bet it's one of those things where [TS]

00:59:23 ◼   ► somebody call namespace pollution I bet [TS]

00:59:25 ◼   ► there's a lot of things called Mountain [TS]

00:59:26 ◼   ► Dew and be real careful which order and [TS]

00:59:29 ◼   ► on whom I bet if you're in the Panhandle [TS]

00:59:31 ◼   ► in san francisco and you ask the iphone [TS]

00:59:32 ◼   ► mountain dew you're going to get a sheet [TS]

00:59:33 ◼   ► of blotter acid coordinate your hand [TS]

00:59:36 ◼   ► here or you're in a bag of that hand you [TS]

00:59:39 ◼   ► the bag gonna rush guys North this while [TS]

00:59:43 ◼   ► urinating on we gotta get a mountain dew [TS]

00:59:45 ◼   ► no ice [TS]

00:59:47 ◼   ► I feel I feel like the thing about [TS]

00:59:50 ◼   ► nitrous oxide when you're watching when [TS]

00:59:53 ◼   ► you're watching a movie in the speed or [TS]

00:59:57 ◼   ► rush sonra right where some [TS]

00:59:57 ◼   ► rush sonra right where some [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► young people are driving some fast cars [TS]

01:00:02 ◼   ► ok some like gone and gone in 30 seconds [TS]

01:00:06 ◼   ► yeah or whatever the feathers found in [TS]

01:00:08 ◼   ► the angry yeah gone in 15 seconds 15 [TS]

01:00:10 ◼   ► seconds and then that then the following [TS]

01:00:12 ◼   ► movie was gone 11 seconds 15-5 so all of [TS]

01:00:16 ◼   ► those all of those movies those racers [TS]

01:00:18 ◼   ► movies yeah you'll notice that they [TS]

01:00:21 ◼   ► often have a bottle of nitrous oxide as [TS]

01:00:24 ◼   ► a performance enhancer yeah right but [TS]

01:00:27 ◼   ► where they shoot nitrous into their car [TS]

01:00:30 ◼   ► and it somehow i think the way it works [TS]

01:00:33 ◼   ► is that it somehow it just uh Evel [TS]

01:00:38 ◼   ► Knievel has given talks about this you [TS]

01:00:39 ◼   ► can use to say you don't be doing drugs [TS]

01:00:41 ◼   ► that's like doing pure nitrous now nux [TS]

01:00:43 ◼   ► when nuts hit the pedal to get the extra [TS]

01:00:45 ◼   ► speed in fury road is that nitrous [TS]

01:00:47 ◼   ► probably yes [TS]

01:00:48 ◼   ► knocks knocks nitrous oxide right and no [TS]

01:00:51 ◼   ► ass and yeah I like densify the fuel or [TS]

01:00:56 ◼   ► something and then at work ones and then [TS]

01:00:58 ◼   ► you're all of a sudden you're slammed [TS]

01:01:00 ◼   ► back into the back of your chair at my [TS]

01:01:02 ◼   ► don't have power potential mangel bar [TS]

01:01:04 ◼   ► yep yep and and i'm good i'm gonna go [TS]

01:01:07 ◼   ► out on a limb here and say that the if [TS]

01:01:09 ◼   ► even one of those movies when the [TS]

01:01:11 ◼   ► nitrous button gets pushed you have the [TS]

01:01:13 ◼   ► person that goes into the lead at that [TS]

01:01:15 ◼   ► moment is not going to win the race [TS]

01:01:17 ◼   ► oh my yeah yeah yeahs oil mm-hmm [TS]

01:01:21 ◼   ► but so I have found that nitrous is acts [TS]

01:01:25 ◼   ► similarly as a power enhancer for other [TS]

01:01:29 ◼   ► drugs like marijuana if you do some [TS]

01:01:32 ◼   ► marijuana and then you push the button [TS]

01:01:34 ◼   ► on some nitrous yeah you're going to get [TS]

01:01:37 ◼   ► more stone more hot and he would have an [TS]

01:01:41 ◼   ► additive quality right around now I'm [TS]

01:01:44 ◼   ► sure there are people listening to this [TS]

01:01:45 ◼   ► program we were like why are these two [TS]

01:01:47 ◼   ► advocating drugs i can well we're not [TS]

01:01:48 ◼   ► but i can tell you why because our [TS]

01:01:50 ◼   ► marijuana is not your marijuana [TS]

01:01:52 ◼   ► mm that's right want to you by you by [TS]

01:01:54 ◼   ► that's fucking crazy as marijuana you [TS]

01:01:57 ◼   ► people he loved your marijuana get [TS]

01:01:58 ◼   ► forget it i had stuff like that maybe [TS]

01:02:01 ◼   ► once in my life maybe your top of the [TS]

01:02:04 ◼   ► chronic i am talking about the chronic [TS]

01:02:06 ◼   ► didn't that the medical grade as they [TS]

01:02:09 ◼   ► said [TS]

01:02:09 ◼   ► yeah i'm talking about the Matanuska [TS]

01:02:12 ◼   ► thunderfuck operations I'm i wanted i [TS]

01:02:15 ◼   ► went to a drug screening of the day [TS]

01:02:16 ◼   ► first time I've been in 1i draw anymore [TS]

01:02:18 ◼   ► i want to know the story of drug the [TS]

01:02:21 ◼   ► story of the ok tienda de les drugs they [TS]

01:02:24 ◼   ► lost wrongs and I said to the guy leaned [TS]

01:02:28 ◼   ► on the counter you know kind of casual [TS]

01:02:30 ◼   ► because I don't belong there [TS]

01:02:31 ◼   ► right because i haven't done any drugs [TS]

01:02:32 ◼   ► in 20 years now but I'm there were some [TS]

01:02:34 ◼   ► friends they wanted to go to the [TS]

01:02:36 ◼   ► drugstore [TS]

01:02:36 ◼   ► hey we're in seattle can we go to the [TS]

01:02:38 ◼   ► drugstore mhm I was like Charlotte the [TS]

01:02:40 ◼   ► drugstore I know where one is i know [TS]

01:02:42 ◼   ► gallon owns one we go and we're leaning [TS]

01:02:44 ◼   ► there and they've got some they've got [TS]