Roderick on the Line

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◼   ► who had John I'm Merlin how's it going [TS]

◼   ► it's going pretty good i'm i'm i'm not [TS]

◼   ► in my customary podcast scenario should [TS]

◼   ► I are sure you are now doesn't sound the [TS]

◼   ► same [TS]

◼   ► he's some fantastic i have that Dad [TS]

◼   ► rock'n'roll years well it all sounds [TS]

◼   ► like to me write it just sounds like a [TS]

◼   ► compressed little uh one of those that [TS]

◼   ► the grilled cheese sandwiches that is [TS]

◼   ► made in a waffle iron [TS]

◼   ► it's what Robin Williams called a [TS]

◼   ► Buddhist gift oh I see what you mean [TS]

◼   ► something that you don't want that you [TS]

◼   ► have to learn to accept I heard in an [TS]

◼   ► interview in a documentary one time [TS]

◼   ► where I i think was Terry Gilliam was [TS]

◼   ► saying that mr. robin williams says that [TS]

◼   ► a mistake is a Buddhist gift you know we [TS]

◼   ► say in rock and roll is one time it's a [TS]

◼   ► one-time it's a clam m2 times it's a [TS]

◼   ► it's a team three times it's a it's a [TS]

◼   ► rift is that they make jazz Jon that's [TS]

◼   ► exactly I make sure how many clams take [TS]

◼   ► to make a jazz [TS]

◼   ► mm well it depends is that why it's also [TS]

◼   ► a red so what do you think mr. al 1233 [TS]

◼   ► we points3 leaks something about that up [TS]

◼   ► about hope about that up [TS]

◼   ► oh no mr. Berlin I've been trying to [TS]

◼   ► listen to more music have you have you [TS]

◼   ► been trying to watch old a sudden that [TS]

◼   ► live episodes for mr. bill [TS]

◼   ► Oh mr. bill mr. bill is really look [TS]

◼   ► forward mr. bill so did I don't think I [TS]

◼   ► really wanted the implications of mr. [TS]

◼   ► bill you know there was that that's the [TS]

◼   ► that's that national lampoon sense of [TS]

◼   ► humor which i think you needed to be [TS]

◼   ► very very preppy and very very stone [TS]

◼   ► preppy and stoned pre-installed i'm in [TS]

◼   ► new york city right now what are you [TS]

◼   ► doing in there are you are you in the [TS]

◼   ► actual titular city something back [TS]

◼   ► it sounds like you might be one of the [TS]

◼   ► borough's i'm in a burrow right now I'm [TS]

◼   ► on the i'm on the great island of of [TS]

◼   ► long and but I'm staying in New York [TS]

◼   ► City and New York is really really full [TS]

◼   ► of young recipe drunk people [TS]

◼   ► he also smoked a lot and so much [TS]

◼   ► cigarette isn't me don't you see more [TS]

◼   ► smoking in the city enormously more [TS]

◼   ► smoking I mean everywhere else people [TS]

◼   ► don't smoke anymore they don't smoke [TS]

◼   ► anymore but in New York they smoke you [TS]

◼   ► smoke like it's just a normal thing they [TS]

◼   ► do they smoke like it's a normal thing [TS]

◼   ► and also they don't have any like [TS]

◼   ► prohibition against talking on the phone [TS]

◼   ► she's gonna want the phone all the time [TS]

◼   ► in San Francisco University of soul on [TS]

◼   ► the phone [TS]

◼   ► well you see them do you see them [TS]

◼   ► staring at the phone and typing but [TS]

◼   ► people rarely you see you see a lot of [TS]

◼   ► people if you see people talking on the [TS]

◼   ► phone it's usually because they got one [TS]

◼   ► of those robot bluetooth things [TS]

◼   ► mhm and it's a that's that's a whole [TS]

◼   ► different kind of thing uh yeah that's [TS]

◼   ► that's right people in seattle the same [TS]

◼   ► way there staring at their phones [TS]

◼   ► they're engaged with their phone but [TS]

◼   ► they are not talking into it in any way [TS]

◼   ► and in New York they're talking into [TS]

◼   ► their phones and I think it's because [TS]

◼   ► you can't stare at your phone in New [TS]

◼   ► York or you'll be murdered [TS]

◼   ► yeah you know what i think that's that's [TS]

◼   ► part of the ethos i was in line at the [TS]

◼   ► snack bar at the cinema yesterday and I [TS]

◼   ► was thinking isn't this funny all five [TS]

◼   ► of the people in front of me are staring [TS]

◼   ► at their phones and I thought to myself [TS]

◼   ► you know why don't know with what i [TS]

◼   ► thought to myself self i said to myself [TS]

◼   ► I says well why don't people just talk [TS]

◼   ► to each other anymore [TS]

◼   ► oh and then and it was really nice one [TS]

◼   ► guy says to another guy in line when he [TS]

◼   ► got there and the guy says it's a [TS]

◼   ► yeast-like to put it on my popcorn haha [TS]

◼   ► it's on East and then they went into a [TS]

◼   ► long conversation about which theaters [TS]

◼   ► have ye stand down my just look at your [TS]

◼   ► fucking phone shut up I'm you know like [TS]

◼   ► if somebody if I said hey how's it going [TS]

◼   ► and somebody use the word yeast in the [TS]

◼   ► first sentence wow yeah that's a real [TS]

◼   ► like that's a real like pull back pull [TS]

◼   ► back get out get out [TS]

◼   ► yeast feels like the topic of a [TS]

◼   ► one-issue person what I call the file [TS]

◼   ► card person where there is one thing [TS]

◼   ► they want to be Bernie Sanders it could [TS]

◼   ► be bikes it could be east right how do [TS]

◼   ► you know that how do you know that you [TS]

◼   ► have a fireman at your party [TS]

◼   ► mmm i give up a dino will tell you huh [TS]

◼   ► that's one that's kind of non jokes and [TS]

◼   ► it's a great joke i mean i guess you [TS]

◼   ► have to know I guess you have to know it [TS]

◼   ► ultrafire man I justyou have to have [TS]

◼   ► ever had a fire it's like that that dark [TS]

◼   ► Russian sense of humor you have you have [TS]

◼   ► to be a nineties kids understand this [TS]

◼   ► fireman Jack yeah that'd be the joke [TS]

◼   ► being that a fireman is not going to [TS]

◼   ► miss an opportunity to tell you the [TS]

◼   ► firemen because they're here because [TS]

◼   ► they're here [TS]

◼   ► yeah yeah there's there's a lot of folks [TS]

◼   ► like that god bless them you know what [TS]

◼   ► thank you for your service [TS]

◼   ► god bless them and I it was did I ever [TS]

◼   ► tell you about the time mostly about [TS]

◼   ► this the other day I regret not having [TS]

◼   ► joined the military [TS]

◼   ► hmm we granted when did that regret for [TS]

◼   ► start to evidencing itself [TS]

◼   ► well I when I was young I I always [TS]

◼   ► assumed i would be in the military at [TS]

◼   ► some point and then right about the time [TS]

◼   ► that you are the age of someone who's [TS]

◼   ► going to join the military right I was a [TS]

◼   ► I was a piece Nick an anarchist yeah and [TS]

◼   ► so not joining the military felt like a [TS]

◼   ► real rebellion against my earlier self [TS]

◼   ► no one was pressuring me to go into the [TS]

◼   ► military my mom actually anytime a [TS]

◼   ► recruiter would call the house my mom [TS]

◼   ► would like to swear at them and and slam [TS]

◼   ► the phone down [TS]

◼   ► not my son that's right and she said if [TS]

◼   ► you join the military i'm going to move [TS]

◼   ► you to Canada or something she had some [TS]

◼   ► idea that she could prohibit me from [TS]

◼   ► joining the military [TS]

◼   ► she was gonna disown because she is a [TS]

◼   ► real peace activist but i thought i [TS]

◼   ► would join the military and then during [TS]

◼   ► the during the heyday years where was [TS]

◼   ► like go join the military and learn [TS]

◼   ► discipline and be a young person I it [TS]

◼   ► wasn't in my that was part of my scene [TS]

◼   ► but then later like when I was 30 I said [TS]

◼   ► what I wish when I was 18 instead of the [TS]

◼   ► scene that I did occupy I'd gone and [TS]

◼   ► John join the military minutes but it's [TS]

◼   ► one of those things where you're like [TS]

◼   ► how can you say that [TS]

◼   ► well how different would you be right [TS]

◼   ► it's like completely different life but [TS]

◼   ► then after 911 when I was in my [TS]

◼   ► mid-thirties and still young enough to [TS]

◼   ► join the military [TS]

◼   ► I went and looked and they had been [TS]

◼   ► they'd raise the top age and I could [TS]

◼   ► have just gone [TS]

◼   ► at 35 years old and said sign me up [TS]

◼   ► I'm going to the you know going to fight [TS]

◼   ► on behalf of Justice going to the big [TS]

◼   ► game [TS]

◼   ► whatever we thought then yeah right oh [TS]

◼   ► LOL mixed up about the country's but you [TS]

◼   ► know em um and I really thought about it [TS]

◼   ► but you know I had a lot going on sure [TS]

◼   ► and and now i'm too old to join the [TS]

◼   ► military and it's very easy for me to [TS]

◼   ► say boy I wish I joined the military but [TS]

◼   ► i do feel like having a kid like some [TS]

◼   ► other things in life you know some not [TS]

◼   ► not bucket list because that's vulgar [TS]

◼   ► but you know like the idea that that in [TS]

◼   ► the course of living a full life you do [TS]

◼   ► the you know you do the following things [TS]

◼   ► and we got to take your boxes grown-up [TS]

◼   ► yeah what was the you know starship [TS]

◼   ► troopers right they won't even give you [TS]

◼   ► a full citizenship and lose it and what [TS]

◼   ► if you know it's like Israel yeah that's [TS]

◼   ► right that's right like Israel everybody [TS]

◼   ► goes except in Israel it seems like [TS]

◼   ► everybody's super super sexy right [TS]

◼   ► that's a sexy army [TS]

◼   ► oh yeah and don't you learn like Jewish [TS]

◼   ► kungfu if they have their own special [TS]

◼   ► kungfu they teach you probably probably [TS]

◼   ► they you know that's like I think of [TS]

◼   ► them as like the tank top army em [TS]

◼   ► they're carrying their guns on the [TS]

◼   ► subway they're all wearing tank tops [TS]

◼   ► yeah it seems like it was a good way to [TS]

◼   ► be 19 carrying a gun and wearing a [TS]

◼   ► tanktop taiwan occurred to me i [TS]

◼   ► mentioned last week my primary high [TS]

◼   ► school girlfriend she joined the [TS]

◼   ► airforce when she was about once a 22 [TS]

◼   ► maybe 23 your secondary high school [TS]

◼   ► program by a secondary and tertiary high [TS]

◼   ► school girlfriend occurred to me about [TS]

◼   ► five years ago that she's probably [TS]

◼   ► retired now from the Air Force yeah I [TS]

◼   ► think about it as a as a lieutenant [TS]

◼   ► colonel and she's making like a normal [TS]

◼   ► weight for the rest of her life [TS]

◼   ► II don't a pretty good they do yeah see [TS]

◼   ► that's one of the really think about it [TS]

◼   ► i really be in my country and retired [TS]

◼   ► they pay you not very well through the [TS]

◼   ► whole time that you're working [TS]

◼   ► comparable to what you could probably [TS]

◼   ► making in the real world but then they [TS]

◼   ► continue to pay you not your full salary [TS]

◼   ► but but pretty darn good but you get [TS]

◼   ► glasses and stuff like [TS]

◼   ► yes those nice VA hospitals me they're [TS]

◼   ► so great the NBA and you get that [TS]

◼   ► haircut that one haircut I definitely a [TS]

◼   ► you were a cadet right and I was a cadet [TS]

◼   ► we were both military cadets I for a [TS]

◼   ► year I was as a consequence of going to [TS]

◼   ► military school I was automatically in [TS]

◼   ► njrotc em and give you additional Junior [TS]

◼   ► ROTC if you just stayed in the njrotc [TS]

◼   ► retirement 19 [TS]

◼   ► yeah well they would have commissioned [TS]

◼   ► you in the Navy you'd be an officer now [TS]

◼   ► easily and of course i would have been [TS]

◼   ► an officer just by virtue of having been [TS]

◼   ► recognized as standing in the door of [TS]

◼   ► the recruiter yeah they would have said [TS]

◼   ► oh my god John I think they would've [TS]

◼   ► fast-tracked you I think if everybody [TS]

◼   ► had had had had their head together that [TS]

◼   ► day [TS]

◼   ► you've probably been retired a couple [TS]

◼   ► years you know right into officer [TS]

◼   ► candidate school huh [TS]

◼   ► and it's sort of like if I had ever gone [TS]

◼   ► 25 ever gone to Yale and stood in the [TS]

◼   ► doorway which I never did write it as a [TS]

◼   ► young person my gun stood in the doorway [TS]

◼   ► somebody would have seen the light kind [TS]

◼   ► of from behind right yeah there would [TS]

◼   ► have been like a angel choir [TS]

◼   ► well they could just see the cut of your [TS]

◼   ► jib just from the silhouette that's [TS]

◼   ► right from the silhouette and they would [TS]

◼   ► have said Jesus Christ what are you [TS]

◼   ► doing out there come in [TS]

◼   ► uh-huh and maybe I would have been [TS]

◼   ► pushing a broom but then i would have [TS]

◼   ► been solving math problems on the [TS]

◼   ► chalkboard in the you know in the night [TS]

◼   ► RC and that's the thing is once you're [TS]

◼   ► fast track you can really get super fast [TS]

◼   ► tracked and let's be honest with you and [TS]

◼   ► says uh what does he say showing up as [TS]

◼   ► eighty percent of life you show up at [TS]

◼   ► the Mossad or you show up to show up in [TS]

◼   ► the doorway of Yale they're going to [TS]

◼   ► walk you in and then once you've got a [TS]

◼   ► literal foot in the little door then the [TS]

◼   ► fast-tracking really starts and that's [TS]

◼   ► when they can you become like ender you [TS]

◼   ► know they're going to they're going to [TS]

◼   ► move you up a lot of a lot of places [TS]

◼   ► very very quickly they're gonna remember [TS]

◼   ► the game you don't in the game after you [TS]

◼   ► then they might try and Gaslight your [TS]

◼   ► little bit no spoilers but the point [TS]

◼   ► being I think at that point that they're [TS]

◼   ► going to see they're gonna be able to [TS]

◼   ► actually maybe even measure the cut of [TS]

◼   ► your jib let's be honest and this is [TS]

◼   ► what [TS]

◼   ► yeah we'll go ahead no no I just I [TS]

◼   ► disappoints me John you you should be [TS]

◼   ► there so many things you should be [TS]

◼   ► retired from at this point breaks my [TS]

◼   ► heart to know to know how little your [TS]

◼   ► jib cut was appreciated breaks my heart [TS]

◼   ► but I don't know [TS]

◼   ► right when you're when you're making a [TS]

◼   ► list of the things that you ought to do [TS]

◼   ► in the course of a life [TS]

◼   ► yeah i don't know how many of those I've [TS]

◼   ► done already but i do know the ones that [TS]

◼   ► I've aged out of I do feel if you're [TS]

◼   ► gonna live a full life you should have [TS]

◼   ► been in the Mossad at one point [TS]

◼   ► yeah he should have gone to Yale and and [TS]

◼   ► gone through as a member of that the [TS]

◼   ► njrotc and let's see should have fought [TS]

◼   ► and overseas war retired before the age [TS]

◼   ► of 40 [TS]

◼   ► yeah right all these things what apps [TS]

◼   ► should have designed to have made an [TS]

◼   ► appt you should have made a nap after [TS]

◼   ► winning winning an Emmy right if you got [TS]

◼   ► out of the got out of the Navy or the [TS]

◼   ► Air Force let's say huh [TS]

◼   ► and then went to write for a hit comedy [TS]

◼   ► show you become he gotta pee gotta pee [TS]

◼   ► just an a2 it for the brilliant Mel [TS]

◼   ► Brooks Mel Brooks puts out an app boom [TS]

◼   ► he's a neat ah ha whatever we get Rita [TS]

◼   ► Marie now [TS]

◼   ► yeah yeah Mel Brooks who else did you [TS]

◼   ► know that I i wrote a tweet to Rita [TS]

◼   ► Moreno and then I put it in my drafts [TS]

◼   ► folder and I haven't sent it i do this [TS]

◼   ► both remember what it was i mean i'm not [TS]

◼   ► sure if you listen to the show but [TS]

◼   ► DeeDee of a sense of what is what you're [TS]

◼   ► going to say to her I do so I don't know [TS]

◼   ► if I've ever described it on this [TS]

◼   ► program but when my dad was after he was [TS]

◼   ► every had already left the washington [TS]

◼   ► state legislature and I think maybe yes [TS]

◼   ► in fact after he after he worked for [TS]

◼   ► John F Kennedy he was bouncing around [TS]

◼   ► let's say in Washington State [TS]

◼   ► it seemed like he had hard to put the [TS]

◼   ► stories all together as you know but it [TS]

◼   ► seems like he has somewhat missed an [TS]

◼   ► opportunity that in the early fifties he [TS]

◼   ► was again fast-tracked to being am a [TS]

◼   ► prominent Democrat in Washington and [TS]

◼   ► then somehow he had not played his cards [TS]

◼   ► right and Carrie was 40 years old not [TS]

◼   ► sure which way to which way to turn [TS]

◼   ► I don't don't really understand that [TS]

◼   ► feeling yeah right and you [TS]

◼   ► he was doing some acting now it's at the [TS]

◼   ► Cirque theatre in seattle in the surc [TS]

◼   ► was a kind of you know a little bit [TS]

◼   ► avant-garde it was theater-in-the-round [TS]

◼   ► and it was the theater space was in a [TS]

◼   ► neighborhood that was in the early [TS]

◼   ► sixties considered transitional which [TS]

◼   ► remained transitional until very [TS]

◼   ► recently and now it's very expensive in [TS]

◼   ► the in the great in the great song the [TS]

◼   ► great operator of America [TS]

◼   ► yeah but at the time he was in this [TS]

◼   ► theater company and it was a theater [TS]

◼   ► company that did a very excellent job of [TS]

◼   ► bringing a national and international [TS]

◼   ► theatre people to perform in Seattle [TS]

◼   ► this is pre world's fair and so my dad [TS]

◼   ► was in a play with Rita marina in the [TS]

◼   ► late fifties early sixties so it would [TS]

◼   ► have been right around the [TS]

◼   ► I'm gonna I'm just gonna throw out of [TS]

◼   ► gas that it was maybe before he went to [TS]

◼   ► work for Kennedy ok [TS]

◼   ► 59 let's call and he's in a place with [TS]

◼   ► Rita Moreno and he characterizes himself [TS]

◼   ► now this is the same man who I don't I [TS]

◼   ► want to make clear that he never said he [TS]

◼   ► shot down a Japanese zero with a 45 [TS]

◼   ► pistol he only claim to have shot at a [TS]

◼   ► japanese air he left the conclusion of [TS]

◼   ► that engagement to our imagination but [TS]

◼   ► he implied pretty strongly that he was [TS]

◼   ► going out on some dates with random rain [TS]

◼   ► some dates some number of dates romantic [TS]

◼   ► theater dates [TS]

◼   ► mm not get otherwise engaged at this [TS]

◼   ► point no or maybe unclear [TS]

◼   ► this was also a transitional period he [TS]

◼   ► was he at one point he got divorced and [TS]

◼   ► then another point he met my mom I got [TS]

◼   ► it [TS]

◼   ► ok right in the same area 15 on going [TS]

◼   ► through changes as simpana says right [TS]

◼   ► and this is a this is the Manuel going [TS]

◼   ► through changes right [TS]

◼   ► that's because the victim of changes as [TS]

◼   ► Judas Priest that's a good point but 59 [TS]

◼   ► right this is our mad men era [TS]

◼   ► yep everybody's really well-dressed my [TS]

◼   ► dad at what I think at one point was [TS]

◼   ► wearing a pencil mustache [TS]

◼   ► well anyway went on [TS]

◼   ► mmm unclear some dates with Rita Moreno [TS]

◼   ► and then one night he was waiting [TS]

◼   ► outside the theater or no no I'm sorry [TS]

◼   ► he was escorting rita moreno out of the [TS]

◼   ► front door of the theater on their way [TS]

◼   ► to a date and a man steps out of the [TS]

◼   ► shadows and I know where the Cirque [TS]

◼   ► theater is and I know where the shadows [TS]

◼   ► are I can picture the shadows there [TS]

◼   ► right there foo man steps out of the [TS]

◼   ► shadows it's marlon brando top jimmy and [TS]

◼   ► Marlon Brando says Rita whenever I not [TS]

◼   ► do a good Marlin ready Rita who recruit [TS]

◼   ► offer get removed [TS]

◼   ► that's pretty good thanks I just stuffed [TS]

◼   ► a bunch of cotton in there and then rita [TS]

◼   ► moreno leaves with Martin Brando dashing [TS]

◼   ► my father's hopes now this story [TS]

◼   ► uh-huh is not verifiable by searching [TS]

◼   ► the archives that are currently on the [TS]

◼   ► Internet [TS]

◼   ► yeah I look at the internet and look at [TS]

◼   ► the Cirque playhouse and I can't see [TS]

◼   ► anything here about it right so the cert [TS]

◼   ► playhouse we'll confirm that Rita Moreno [TS]

◼   ► was in a production there she is this [TS]

◼   ► here it says here that I see her name [TS]

◼   ► here the impressive list of Hollywood [TS]

◼   ► stars who trod the boards at the Cirque [TS]

◼   ► includes many many names [TS]

◼   ► you got it yet Bob Cummings get King [TS]

◼   ► Donovan Marsha hunt Tab Hunter Howard [TS]

◼   ► keel you got to ride in McDowell rita [TS]

◼   ► moreno so I actually met on his losses [TS]

◼   ► OOP it's I met at mcdonalds child shut [TS]

◼   ► up and my father and the cornelius Yeti [TS]

◼   ► already been the ape [TS]

◼   ► yes oh my god what if that was all i was [TS]

◼   ► a big fan I love that guy [TS]

◼   ► I did too i just he's like the English [TS]

◼   ► Tony Randall it's exactly who he is and [TS]

◼   ► he he was at the time my favorite actor [TS]

◼   ► and I'm not sure whether it [TS]

◼   ► that's because i met him i think it is [TS]

◼   ► largely because I met him just as Count [TS]

◼   ► Basie was my favorite big band [TS]

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◼   ► well I stood there I stood there as my [TS]

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◼   ► was wide by that point the circle [TS]

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◼   ► would go there sometimes because you [TS]

◼   ► know even even in his late fifties my [TS]

◼   ► dad was still very bohemian one of them [TS]

◼   ► he was one of the theater people is one [TS]

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◼   ► well not really but he but he was a [TS]

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◼   ► wrote this wheat to Rita Moreno who's [TS]

◼   ► still very active on Twitter you know [TS]

◼   ► kind of like toni tennille you don't [TS]

◼   ► know that she's out there of via one kit [TS]

◼   ► she's not you wouldn't think she's one [TS]

◼   ► kiss away from rock on the line but it [TS]

◼   ► turns out toni tennille is one kiss away [TS]

◼   ► one gets away from my nie you remind me [TS]

◼   ► of Tony tell sometimes and I I'd are you [TS]

◼   ► following her on twitter [TS]

◼   ► she's a lot of emoji know she's you know [TS]

◼   ► she has this autobiography and she's and [TS]

◼   ► you know it's a good autobiography she's [TS]

◼   ► out she's tried on the board of a low of [TS]

◼   ► a book author but I don't know that's [TS]

◼   ► right they tried charging the both of us [TS]

◼   ► okay [TS]

◼   ► hi difficult wider planks can but so i [TS]

◼   ► don't know how many kisses away from [TS]

◼   ► writer from the line Rita Moreno is and [TS]

◼   ► i wrote this sweet and a little bit you [TS]

◼   ► know it's a little bit like dear reader [TS]

◼   ► marina my dad says that he may be like [TS]

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◼   ► throws my dad under the bus right [TS]

◼   ► because rita moreno there's you know [TS]

◼   ► there is chance that you'll read that [TS]

◼   ► and she'll go oh Dave Roderick I haven't [TS]

◼   ► thought of him in years and she'll write [TS]

◼   ► me back go of course I remember your [TS]

◼   ► father he played the role of of a Tony [TS]

◼   ► Tony Randall in in our hit show at the [TS]

◼   ► circle theatre in seattle in 1959 or [TS]

◼   ► reading marino may not reply or she may [TS]

◼   ► say sorry don't remember anybody by that [TS]

◼   ► name and I don't want to you know I [TS]

◼   ► don't want to throw my dad under the bus [TS]

◼   ► I don't want to eat you don't want every [TS]

◼   ► one of your stories fact-checked after [TS]

◼   ► you're dead you can't win here [TS]

◼   ► I mean certainly I hope that's not [TS]

◼   ► that's not fair i hope that my archivist [TS]

◼   ► goes about trying to fact-check all of [TS]

◼   ► my stories because they [TS]

◼   ► it will be that will be the subject of a [TS]

◼   ► documentary film when that fact checker [TS]

◼   ► when that dubious documentary film [TS]

◼   ► series that dubious person me after I'm [TS]

◼   ► dead [TS]

◼   ► who says haha this can't all be real [TS]

◼   ► Jonathan dubious and then find [TS]

◼   ► themselves little by little [TS]

◼   ► yep it also checks out it checks at the [TS]

◼   ► exxon THX out there more and more [TS]

◼   ► astonished until their John comment all [TS]

◼   ► kinds of stuff you left out because it [TS]

◼   ► didn't seem plausible [TS]

◼   ► yeah that's right and then when they [TS]

◼   ► when they find out that the story was [TS]

◼   ► under told yes [TS]

◼   ► oh how the journalist who like to check [TS]

◼   ► facts are going to be a lot of openings [TS]

◼   ► in the next few years I think I think [TS]

◼   ► somebody maybe getting started right now [TS]

◼   ► you know what I got to take your story [TS]

◼   ► but maybe somebody comes in and get the [TS]

◼   ► lay of the land [TS]

◼   ► this could be somebody who comes in and [TS]

◼   ► you get some you know get some briefings [TS]

◼   ► with you [TS]

◼   ► you can walk through the cigar boxes and [TS]

◼   ► cowboy boots I'm old at this point [TS]

◼   ► you're saying well I mean you're mean [TS]

◼   ► like younger than I am but I'm saying [TS]

◼   ► right now you bring somebody maybe start [TS]

◼   ► interviewing people for this you get to [TS]

◼   ► pick your own I've been watching the [TS]

◼   ► crown on netflix now Winston Churchill [TS]

◼   ► did not like the guy who painted his [TS]

◼   ► portrait he didn't like the way the [TS]

◼   ► portrait turned out no spoilers [TS]

◼   ► he did not want to modern it's doing [TS]

◼   ► that do you think you need to have [TS]

◼   ► somebody who's not on board you need a [TS]

◼   ► skeptic to come in should know where the [TS]

◼   ► cowboy boots are you should just read [TS]

◼   ► over it on your own after your death [TS]

◼   ► I'm afraid that anybody that I higher [TS]

◼   ► right now is going to be engaged in a [TS]

◼   ► project is going to want to be engaged [TS]

◼   ► in the project for reasons that will [TS]

◼   ► diminish their capacity to say wait a [TS]

◼   ► minute trying to do credulous right now [TS]

◼   ► a little yeah it has to happen Lee it [TS]

◼   ► has to happen when somebody like well I [TS]

◼   ► think that fact checking in journalism [TS]

◼   ► like digging down is going to be very [TS]

◼   ► fashionable in 25 or 30 years in the [TS]

◼   ► same way that vinyl is fashionable now [TS]

◼   ► huh [TS]

◼   ► right like it's going to be in and like [TS]

◼   ► a sort of an anachronism some young kid [TS]

◼   ► is going to say you know what [TS]

◼   ► back in the old days journalists like [TS]

◼   ► took a critical i was trying to figure [TS]

◼   ► it out to totally figure out of things [TS]

◼   ► are probably true right and then they're [TS]

◼   ► gonna then they this young hipsters [TS]

◼   ► going to be like that's what I'm gonna [TS]

◼   ► get into [TS]

◼   ► this is gonna make me really cool i'm [TS]

◼   ► going to get into this whole like [TS]

◼   ► journalism and maybe make I mean there's [TS]

◼   ► probably going to be a lot of things [TS]

◼   ► that they can investigate more [TS]

◼   ► interesting than me but let's say one of [TS]

◼   ► them like I want to just be so this is [TS]

◼   ► gonna be the i'm going to be the most [TS]

◼   ► obscure I me I'm some peasant bring this [TS]

◼   ► up [TS]

◼   ► trigger warning but mm ah Marlon Brando [TS]

◼   ► and rita moreno did have a torrid affair [TS]

◼   ► yeah according to the internet but he [TS]

◼   ► cheated on her so much she tried to take [TS]

◼   ► her own life [TS]

◼   ► oh my goodness i'm not saying anything [TS]

◼   ► one way or another I don't know did this [TS]

◼   ► government's become free to her I don't [TS]

◼   ► know if it's gonna be you know sand in [TS]

◼   ► her gears but maybe just keep that in [TS]

◼   ► mind wallet in your drafts folder so [TS]

◼   ► circa when I don't know I don't visit [TS]

◼   ► the daily mail or new york post but i'm [TS]

◼   ► looking at just in the search results [TS]

◼   ► also a very if you go in search on their [TS]

◼   ► two names to see a very cool picture of [TS]

◼   ► them in bed together [TS]

◼   ► oh well I mean I bet from from my dad's [TS]

◼   ► story it I always kind of put together a [TS]

◼   ► picture of the fact that Marlon Brando [TS]

◼   ► and she already had a long history [TS]

◼   ► yeah and that this was one of those [TS]

◼   ► things where he showed up thinking [TS]

◼   ► probably release from treading the [TS]

◼   ► boards [TS]

◼   ► uh yeah and also probably from sexy time [TS]

◼   ► yeah that's kind of bored reading I if [TS]

◼   ► you're doing it if you're treading it if [TS]

◼   ► you're treading on boards [TS]

◼   ► uh-huh that's a different that's very [TS]

◼   ► sexy he probably got that means that [TS]

◼   ► you're not you're not confined to soft [TS]

◼   ► places right you're gonna you're willing [TS]

◼   ► to just do it out anywhere you mix it up [TS]

◼   ► a little bit about the strange hmmm but [TS]

◼   ► what I'm guessing is that Marlon Brando [TS]

◼   ► steps out of the this is what I've [TS]

◼   ► always guessed he steps out of the dark [TS]

◼   ► Rita Moreno was not expecting in there [TS]

◼   ► and also probably you know would have [TS]

◼   ► said if you'd asked her what Marlon [TS]

◼   ► Brando steps out of the Dark Shadows [TS]

◼   ► what are you going to do list includes [TS]

◼   ► therefore young listeners this is marlon [TS]

◼   ► brando in the fifties that's right and [TS]

◼   ► Marlon Brando fifties is not the Marlon [TS]

◼   ► Brando you have in your head [TS]

◼   ► right now he's a very handsome man in [TS]

◼   ► the fifties Marlon Brando in the fifties [TS]

◼   ► not single-handedly but he helped upset [TS]

◼   ► an idea of sexy male masculinity in a [TS]

◼   ► very interesting way because he was he [TS]

◼   ► was he was really good looking he was [TS]

◼   ► really masculine but like maybe say what [TS]

◼   ► James has got the jacket jacket yeah [TS]

◼   ► like James jacket the guy Danny [TS]

◼   ► automobile accident oh yeah that's right [TS]

◼   ► James acting like a majestic forever [TS]

◼   ► young lord for he got the vulnerability [TS]

◼   ► you got maybe a little bit not [TS]

◼   ► sensitivity is a fraught work i think [TS]

◼   ► that's correct but like you wouldn't [TS]

◼   ► rule out these may be bisexual [TS]

◼   ► oh no I don't know what out at all i [TS]

◼   ► don't think people had a name for that I [TS]

◼   ► don't think people i mean they had some [TS]

◼   ► majority of names but i think people saw [TS]

◼   ► something that would be taken so many oh [TS]

◼   ► right and i think i think you see using [TS]

◼   ► that James jacket movie they can take [TS]

◼   ► him take him [TS]

◼   ► yeah I think he had drug problems later [TS]

◼   ► on which is a shame bisexuality was [TS]

◼   ► understood to be a thing and I think [TS]

◼   ► that it was you know it was something in [TS]

◼   ► New York City that was maybe even chic [TS]

◼   ► but sometimes people they throw a shape [TS]

◼   ► they got they got a certain kind of vibe [TS]

◼   ► and I'm saying is as great a man is that [TS]

◼   ► let's be honest David rock was a great [TS]

◼   ► man i would not want to be seeing Marlon [TS]

◼   ► Brando come out of the shadows while I'm [TS]

◼   ► trying to make x ray Marino also know I [TS]

◼   ► don't know [TS]

◼   ► so reading here just a little bit right [TS]

◼   ► Rita a twenty-two-year-old rita moreno [TS]

◼   ► met the thirty-year-old Marlon Brando in [TS]

◼   ► 1954 so a long time before this and uh I [TS]

◼   ► cannot say this doesn't seem like [TS]

◼   ► reading Moreno's voice but the new york [TS]

◼   ► post a paragon of journalistic integrity [TS]

◼   ► is never wrong quotes are here to say [TS]

◼   ► that he was a great lover sensual [TS]

◼   ► generous delightfully inventive would be [TS]

◼   ► gravely understating what he did not [TS]

◼   ► only to my body but for my soul every [TS]

◼   ► aspect of being with Marlon was [TS]

◼   ► thrilling [TS]

◼   ► because he was more engaged in the world [TS]

◼   ► than anyone else i've ever known [TS]

◼   ► she writes I totally believe that mm I [TS]

◼   ► think he feels I think he felt things [TS]

◼   ► very very deeply well but she goes on [TS]

◼   ► Khun possibly as an outgrowth of this [TS]

◼   ► now this isn't quoting i'm not sure that [TS]

◼   ► we're still post now i'm not sure how [TS]

◼   ► the New York Post does its backchecking [TS]

◼   ► yeah but she says or someone says the [TS]

◼   ► New York Post writer says possibly as an [TS]

◼   ► outgrowth of this he had insatiable [TS]

◼   ► sexual needs which he unabashedly [TS]

◼   ► pursued with droves of other women the [TS]

◼   ► so here we are insatiable unabashedly [TS]

◼   ► and droves [TS]

◼   ► now that's broke my heart and came close [TS]

◼   ► to crushing my very spirit with his [TS]

◼   ► physical infidelity and worse with his [TS]

◼   ► emotional betrayal so this all happened [TS]

◼   ► before my dad before my dad met Rita [TS]

◼   ► Moreno and maybe mm date md went on went [TS]

◼   ► on date this is not getting simpler as a [TS]

◼   ► story now know and so when he steps out [TS]

◼   ► of the shadows right he's the guy that's [TS]

◼   ► almost that's broken heart he's the guy [TS]

◼   ► that's caused her to you know him crush [TS]

◼   ► almost crusher very spirit and yet she [TS]

◼   ► can't resist him and leaves my dad [TS]

◼   ► standing just adjacent to the shadows [TS]

◼   ► and adjacent to the shadows would be a [TS]

◼   ► great huh [TS]

◼   ► auto by our autobiography titled uh-huh [TS]

◼   ► if you're going to drop the author board [TS]

◼   ► and and then off they go into the night [TS]

◼   ► and then that's where the story ends my [TS]

◼   ► dad does not he does not follow up with [TS]

◼   ► like well then the next day we had to [TS]

◼   ► keep doing this play [TS]

◼   ► he didn't say that was the last I ever [TS]

◼   ► saw are you know there's always that [TS]

◼   ► there's always the rest of the story [TS]

◼   ► which a lot of times you don't get [TS]

◼   ► because the dramatic moment isn't and [TS]

◼   ► then we kept doing the play for two [TS]

◼   ► weeks the dramatic moment is like [TS]

◼   ► Marlon Brando she's good storytelling [TS]

◼   ► yeah that's right but i dunno i have no [TS]

◼   ► idea i'm and and the internet is silent [TS]

◼   ► for the internet is the internet is [TS]

◼   ► intentionally meet on the subject maybe [TS]

◼   ► in the fullness of time your own [TS]

◼   ► incredulous biographer will be able to [TS]

◼   ► work on this i'm thinking here of [TS]

◼   ► reading the the Alexander Hamilton [TS]

◼   ► biography like all biographies it begins [TS]

◼   ► way before that person was born if you [TS]

◼   ► can do a biography you know well you [TS]

◼   ► take for example the great album cover [TS]

◼   ► Goldman biography of Elvis one of the [TS]

◼   ► great biographies that begins with us [TS]

◼   ► being fitted into a course in getting [TS]

◼   ► his hand and getting his diarrhea [TS]

◼   ► medicine before he goes on stage along [TS]

◼   ► with the speed that sets the stage for [TS]

◼   ► the Elvis you're gonna you're gonna get [TS]

◼   ► here but most biography start a long [TS]

◼   ► time before we're going to learn about [TS]

◼   ► Alexander Hamilton's yet grandparents [TS]

◼   ► before we learn about Alexander you know [TS]

◼   ► I'm saying yeah yeah so with you I mean [TS]

◼   ► obviously there's going to be some solid [TS]

◼   ► David Roderick material but i don't know [TS]

◼   ► i don't know we've talked about this [TS]

◼   ► before like a little checks [TS]

◼   ► it's not gonna make well but yeah I [TS]

◼   ► don't think there's a check i don't [TS]

◼   ► think it goes back as far as a checked [TS]

◼   ► that would have liked on the bottom of [TS]

◼   ► it you know dinner with Rita but Rita [TS]

◼   ► Moreno in the same article references [TS]

◼   ► being looked up and down by a by a [TS]

◼   ► predatory animal who spotted his prey [TS]

◼   ► and paralyzes it with that look and [TS]

◼   ► later on she sees that same predatory [TS]

◼   ► animal in the in Life Magazine turns out [TS]

◼   ► john f kennedy hall dear and then after [TS]

◼   ► Marlon Brando she dated a berry as she [TS]

◼   ► describes him a very disappointing [TS]

◼   ► dennis hopper and the lamb boy Elvis [TS]

◼   ► i'll come on [TS]

◼   ► so in addition to read aria in addition [TS]

◼   ► to e got also relationships with with [TS]

◼   ► the Elvis Marlon Brando and potentially [TS]

◼   ► my dad although you know he never my dad [TS]

◼   ► was not lascivious right he was like the [TS]

◼   ► only also you know you have to you have [TS]

◼   ► to remove these cataracts of history and [TS]

◼   ► go well that's the dennis hopper the [TS]

◼   ► fifties that's Elvis Presley of the [TS]

◼   ► fifties and if you get your idea of [TS]

◼   ► Elvis from the fat Elvis stamp man go [TS]

◼   ► watch Elvis in like 56 it's a whole [TS]

◼   ► different scene man look but yeah man [TS]

◼   ► but even look at him in the 68 Comeback [TS]

◼   ► 68 Comeback now that synthetic means [TS]

◼   ► again [TS]

◼   ► but he but it but it doesn't read as [TS]

◼   ► investment would he bring God brings he [TS]

◼   ► bring some motherfucking ruckus in that [TS]

◼   ► for shutdown he's got a lot of you know [TS]

◼   ► why it does sir can you imagine how much [TS]

◼   ► better your life would be if you get [TS]

◼   ► Scotty Moore get Scotty Moore in count [TS]

◼   ► basie I'm just saying you get some [TS]

◼   ► tasteful people in your band to mention [TS]

◼   ► the superb and you can have to if you [TS]

◼   ► have if you have Scotty more on guitar [TS]

◼   ► hero count basie on the keys who also [TS]

◼   ► gonna bring in that band to have the [TS]

◼   ► world's most tasteful backup band for [TS]

◼   ► John Rother now Blaine how Blaine right [TS]

◼   ► how blankie mentioned the patience of [TS]

◼   ► that man how patient he must have been I [TS]

◼   ► don't think of him as very patient [TS]

◼   ► well he's had a lot of problems in the [TS]

◼   ► cellars awards and stuff but you know [TS]

◼   ► just having to go through all all of [TS]

◼   ► like Phil Spector and Brian Wilson [TS]

◼   ► making a beat with their mouth and say [TS]

◼   ► and do that now change it uh-huh yeah [TS]

◼   ► just yeah right like sitting in the room [TS]

◼   ► while Brian Wilson goes 400 takes those [TS]

◼   ► stories are so great just you see that [TS]

◼   ► wrecking crew documentary but they would [TS]

◼   ► just show up and it would just be like [TS]

◼   ► dozens of people in the room perfect for [TS]

◼   ► uppers just over and over and sometimes [TS]

◼   ► nothing is Brian went to figure out how [TS]

◼   ► to make it seem like a fire engine or [TS]

◼   ► whatever [TS]

◼   ► yeah Brian Brian would eat one reason [TS]

◼   ► might look learn to play the theremin um [TS]

◼   ► so yeah if i had how blame and Carol k [TS]

◼   ► just sitting in chairs smoking [TS]

◼   ► cigarettes at my shadow and the cat eye [TS]

◼   ► sunglasses [TS]

◼   ► uh yes I didn't read my story [TS]

◼   ► yes and then Scotty Moore playing the [TS]

◼   ► guitar well and speed proper playing you [TS]

◼   ► don't mean you know if you have the [TS]

◼   ► wrecking crew at your disposal [TS]

◼   ► ok that's pretty good that's that's [TS]

◼   ► pretty advanced right yeah right and the [TS]

◼   ► and the and abandoned analyzed on [TS]

◼   ► playing second base you think why is [TS]

◼   ► that work tom petty that's not there [TS]

◼   ► why not have the whole thing of being [TS]

◼   ► recorded by george martin george more or [TS]

◼   ► Nigel goodrich magic which you've been [TS]

◼   ► watching sound breaking having you admit [TS]

◼   ► i just discovered it last night how [TS]

◼   ► fucking great sound breaking it's so [TS]

◼   ► great I with more than you expect you [TS]

◼   ► thinking this large another talking [TS]

◼   ► heads music documentary but holy shit [TS]

◼   ► it's so good helbling watched three [TS]

◼   ► episodes right in a row [TS]

◼   ► me too and I said this is really good [TS]

◼   ► why why is this not why are there not [TS]

◼   ► billboards in Times Square for this [TS]

◼   ► why do we have to keep watching like me [TS]

◼   ► Kevin James make more material and i'm [TS]

◼   ► not opposed to kevin james but he [TS]

◼   ► produces a lot of culture a lot pic i [TS]

◼   ► think disproportionate with his what is [TS]

◼   ► like is mm objective value right like [TS]

◼   ► here's Kevin James he's fine he's good i [TS]

◼   ► like impossible reason he's not sir [TS]

◼   ► Kevin James but you don't even have an [TS]

◼   ► OBE at all he's no he got but he's got [TS]

◼   ► he's got he's got a new TV show where he [TS]

◼   ► sits on the roof of his house in a in a [TS]

◼   ► lawn chair and place a blue-collar guy [TS]

◼   ► with it with a suspiciously life and now [TS]

◼   ► he's in the subways here I see he's got [TS]

◼   ► a movie where he's a like he's a [TS]

◼   ► implausibly overweight like assassin [TS]

◼   ► you've got a premise that's that strong [TS]

◼   ► and you bring in a Kevin James at the [TS]

◼   ► license to print money my friend [TS]

◼   ► listen I'm gonna sell this in the room [TS]

◼   ► CIA assassin ok get stuck in the door [TS]

◼   ► food who now is a mall cop [TS]

◼   ► yeah well some guys will have it a shot [TS]

◼   ► and shove the charge mystery took you [TS]

◼   ► have the universe documentary [TS]

◼   ► yes I'm taneous contemporaneous with the [TS]

◼   ► all this kevin james culture documentary [TS]

◼   ► where they interview literally all of [TS]

◼   ► the Giants of popular music and they're [TS]

◼   ► all and and the the script for it is [TS]

◼   ► just this sort of seamless beautiful [TS]

◼   ► well into that steel two quick things my [TS]

◼   ► friend is this a podcast with that with [TS]

◼   ► TV critic Tim Goodman call TV talking [TS]

◼   ► two things on a crib from him number one [TS]

◼   ► soon [TS]

◼   ► I guess when George Martin's involved [TS]

◼   ► you can find some pretty fucking amazing [TS]

◼   ► video footage that's right no better [TS]

◼   ► right exists reduction come with that [TS]

◼   ► come from but also the canny way that [TS]

◼   ► it's not the usual [TS]

◼   ► ok now let's talk about glam rock now [TS]

◼   ► let's talk about new wave now let's talk [TS]

◼   ► about blues just the stuff about Bessie [TS]

◼   ► Bessie Jones right just like getting [TS]

◼   ► like the q-tips got a thought on that [TS]

◼   ► like every everywhere every person has a [TS]

◼   ► not on this thing and you start to see [TS]

◼   ► it and I think pretty fairly how the [TS]

◼   ► pieces fit together right you listen I [TS]

◼   ► mean Roger Waters is a very difficult [TS]

◼   ► person he was so gracious in this i'm [TS]

◼   ► not sure that was him he's beautiful in [TS]

◼   ► this thing and he's like you so Roger [TS]

◼   ► water says and just it comes it's cut [TS]

◼   ► out of nowhere they're talking about [TS]

◼   ► something completely else and then all [TS]

◼   ► of a sudden Roger Waters it says when [TS]

◼   ► they first played Sergeant Pepper all [TS]

◼   ► the way through on the radio we people [TS]

◼   ► off the road were on tour in a man it's [TS]

◼   ► being floated on tour in a van [TS]

◼   ► we pulled off to the side of the road to [TS]

◼   ► listen to the entire album on the car [TS]

◼   ► stereo and were like blown away and said [TS]

◼   ► like how do we do next and you just go [TS]

◼   ► uh-huh right boom like that people here [TS]

◼   ► all the time sergeant pepper very [TS]

◼   ► influential album [TS]

◼   ► yeah but here's Roger Waters and you [TS]

◼   ► know like in 1968 pink floyd and when [TS]

◼   ► you think about think about what was [TS]

◼   ► going on then with those homies yeah [TS]

◼   ► here it is sergeant pepper in there like [TS]

◼   ► its theatrical music its theater and yet [TS]

◼   ► it's also pop music and go but also that [TS]

◼   ► theme that keeps coming up probably [TS]

◼   ► because it's very George Martin E that [TS]

◼   ► concept that certainly reached its apex [TS]

◼   ► with stealing damn the the concept of [TS]

◼   ► making music that you can't play live [TS]

◼   ► the idea is we're going to make [TS]

◼   ► something here sergeant pepper is not [TS]

◼   ► meant to be something where we go to [TS]

◼   ► Shea Stadium with no monitors and yell [TS]

◼   ► really loud [TS]

◼   ► this is meant to be there are things [TS]

◼   ► happening here that can actually happen [TS]

◼   ► even with a real band [TS]

◼   ► yeah that's touched it sits on your [TS]

◼   ► rights to it in sorry i had to get a dig [TS]

◼   ► it [TS]

◼   ► you hired the hit maker yes in the car [TS]

◼   ► what I what what I came away from the [TS]

◼   ► three episodes with though I mean aside [TS]

◼   ► from like 700 wonderful moments and [TS]

◼   ► wonderful feelings was like watching [TS]

◼   ► nigel godrich who was no older than the [TS]

◼   ► radiohead bro he's so young [TS]

◼   ► yeah and he's just in the studio with [TS]

◼   ► them and they're just doing their thing [TS]

◼   ► and [TS]

◼   ► the collaborate the collaborative [TS]

◼   ► feeling of making a record with a making [TS]

◼   ► a record with somebody where it where it [TS]

◼   ► also feels like they have all the time [TS]

◼   ► in the world right there Lefty keeps [TS]

◼   ► coming up of like making it like a safe [TS]

◼   ► and secure place you can be vulnerable [TS]

◼   ► you can try things [TS]

◼   ► yeah and they're just a their member of [TS]

◼   ► the band yeah and it's not a thing where [TS]

◼   ► you say you know oh well we've only got [TS]

◼   ► three more hours and then it all has to [TS]

◼   ► you know we have to wrap it up because [TS]

◼   ► there's another session in here and and [TS]

◼   ► do bros gotta you know gotta make a [TS]

◼   ► living [TS]

◼   ► it's like we're in here until this gets [TS]

◼   ► done [TS]

◼   ► did you see the voice episode of yeah [TS]

◼   ► we're adele is developing first time [TS]

◼   ► I've ever really thought well sea diver [TS]

◼   ► i watch that one twice and the first of [TS]

◼   ► the second time i watched it I don't [TS]

◼   ► know the christina aguilera think that's [TS]

◼   ► a little bit contrived but the first [TS]

◼   ► time I watched it I was really moved and [TS]

◼   ► it reminded me of you a little bit and [TS]

◼   ► your your philosophy of like we're not [TS]

◼   ► going to this is not hound dog [TS]

◼   ► we're not going to do this 42 times and [TS]

◼   ► I don't know that story about her was [TS]

◼   ► exactly true but it worked for me I [TS]

◼   ► thought that was such a great bit even [TS]

◼   ► if even if it was massage a little bit [TS]

◼   ► who knows and apparel maker but but that [TS]

◼   ► story of her wanting to redo her first [TS]

◼   ► take the entire time that they were [TS]

◼   ► recording and then settling on the last [TS]

◼   ► one thing okay you can do it one more [TS]

◼   ► time but don't stop after one minute [TS]

◼   ► stop not as good as the first one stop [TS]

◼   ► we're done [TS]

◼   ► is that what did you think when you saw [TS]

◼   ► that my so I wasn't able to see the [TS]

◼   ► voice all the way through [TS]

◼   ► oh gee sorry spoilers it's okay because [TS]

◼   ► because my uh my roommate in my hotel [TS]

◼   ► room here in New York City [TS]

◼   ► let's call it my roommate yeah said at [TS]

◼   ► four thirty in the morning and you turn [TS]

◼   ► that down haha [TS]

◼   ► after watching three straight episodes [TS]

◼   ► of it haha planet what are you watching [TS]

◼   ► it on we watching on ipad i know i was [TS]

◼   ► watching on the hotel television because [TS]

◼   ► it's a public television show on PBS [TS]

◼   ► that he had like on demand [TS]

◼   ► no it's on PBS it was just it i just [TS]

◼   ► looked into it was just I was looking [TS]

◼   ► through the channels watching procedure [TS]

◼   ► all crime dramas and like autopsy [TS]

◼   ► photographs cool i saw that their I've [TS]

◼   ► been watching him in the PBS app they're [TS]

◼   ► all up PS like a fucking just put them [TS]

◼   ► all up but that's so cool so you were [TS]

◼   ► watching him like wow that's exciting [TS]

◼   ► that's even so online i'm flipping [TS]

◼   ► through the channels right yeah and I [TS]

◼   ► come upon episode 1 in the first minute [TS]

◼   ► I look what's this I wonder match and [TS]

◼   ► then like so three episodes later I hear [TS]

◼   ► I hear this voice can you turn that down [TS]

◼   ► and I ended my first reaction is you [TS]

◼   ► have no idea what i'm watching here like [TS]

◼   ► no I can't turn it down i should turn it [TS]

◼   ► up yeah we should turn all the lights on [TS]

◼   ► well now that exploded for you it's [TS]

◼   ► basically a parrot Perry talking about [TS]

◼   ► awaiting the weight I get what you're [TS]

◼   ► saying [TS]

◼   ► I understand what it is because of this [TS]

◼   ► for many years within the music business [TS]

◼   ► it has been fairly common barely [TS]

◼   ► understood knowledge that christina [TS]

◼   ► aguilera is the hardest-working singer [TS]

◼   ► in the game her legs everybody agrees [TS]

◼   ► everybody talks about it and and because [TS]

◼   ► it sounds amazing at first you think [TS]

◼   ► like I just she's just super talented [TS]

◼   ► she shows up she has done little checks [TS]

◼   ► out [TS]

◼   ► yeah she's got some kind of cup of tea [TS]

◼   ► over here she works for an hour and then [TS]

◼   ► says you know fix it in the mix or [TS]

◼   ► whatever but everybody says she's a [TS]

◼   ► perfectionist and she just she works [TS]

◼   ► harder than anybody else in the room and [TS]

◼   ► as soon as Linda Perry showed up on the [TS]

◼   ► screen [TS]

◼   ► you know I have I she's very out she's [TS]

◼   ► very outspoken she's done a lot of [TS]

◼   ► amazing work in the music industry but [TS]

◼   ► she's also someone who's wearing a hat [TS]

◼   ► she's got a lot of neck tattoos and a [TS]

◼   ► story yeah she's got a lot of neck to [TS]

◼   ► she's got an unusual have anything like [TS]

◼   ► that [TS]

◼   ► yeah unusual hat I mean that's what [TS]

◼   ► divorces me from for a little bit [TS]

◼   ► John used to have yeah ben harper in [TS]

◼   ► that episode also wearing a hat [TS]

◼   ► he's got started to like happiness [TS]

◼   ► towards he's got a story i'm saying you [TS]

◼   ► know what I mean this is like this is [TS]

◼   ► not the first time you've told this [TS]

◼   ► anecdote that's [TS]

◼   ► yeah do you remember the first Ben [TS]

◼   ► Harper record I know Ben Harper's name [TS]

◼   ► that's it [TS]

◼   ► so ben harper now is a member of the [TS]

◼   ► sort of horde to her culture right you [TS]

◼   ► think of him now and somebody within the [TS]

◼   ► john mayer school of like em a little [TS]

◼   ► bit what I when I think of is like [TS]

◼   ► greasy dentist office music you know [TS]

◼   ► like it's not just dentist office music [TS]

◼   ► it's a little bit greasy to like the [TS]

◼   ► band train but it's just like it's on [TS]

◼   ► but it's in the dentist office so it's [TS]

◼   ► not offending anybody doesn't have been [TS]

◼   ► middle-aged people that are getting the [TS]

◼   ► peat cleaned but it's also trying to rep [TS]

◼   ► that it's either rock or blues in some [TS]

◼   ► kind of real spit in like oh this is the [TS]

◼   ► blues and it's not about the Blues [TS]

◼   ► something else it's something that [TS]

◼   ► little greasy but the first Ben Harper [TS]

◼   ► record was because ben harper and erick [TS]

◼   ► is almost exactly the same age I think [TS]

◼   ► and it came out in the nineties not even [TS]

◼   ► the late nineties and it was really good [TS]

◼   ► it was a huge this young guy that was [TS]

◼   ► playing lap steel at a time when kind of [TS]

◼   ► nobody was playing lap steel and it had [TS]

◼   ► these good tunes on it and 1992 yeah and [TS]

◼   ► it was being played in all the cool [TS]

◼   ► Seattle cafes it was like it was it did [TS]

◼   ► feel like here's a here's a guy that is [TS]

◼   ► doing something nobody else is doing is [TS]

◼   ► very authentic and these are good teams [TS]

◼   ► right it felt like the 1st Lenny Kravitz [TS]

◼   ► record where you're like what is this [TS]

◼   ► guy huh [TS]

◼   ► he's even better than terence trent [TS]

◼   ► d'arby but then as time goes on [TS]

◼   ► somehow they pick their they picked [TS]

◼   ► their culture it's not what you think [TS]

◼   ► their culture is going to be or maybe [TS]

◼   ► their culture picks them [TS]

◼   ► I've told you have an eye about the time [TS]

◼   ► like modest mouse in seattle and in the [TS]

◼   ► nineties was very cool young funky weird [TS]

◼   ► band doing some weird weird in angular [TS]

◼   ► yeah kind of kind of that initially [TS]

◼   ► there a little bit like almost parallel [TS]

◼   ► hubli yet right Isaac Brock would buy [TS]

◼   ► the cheapest guitar he could find with a [TS]

◼   ► with a whammy bar he would take the [TS]

◼   ► whammy bar [TS]

◼   ► off and he would put his hand under the [TS]

◼   ► floating bridge at the back of the [TS]

◼   ► guitar and would manually whammy the [TS]

◼   ► bridge well we're wrong why don't we [TS]

◼   ► like he was he was doing that now with a [TS]

◼   ► whammy bar but just with the palm of his [TS]

◼   ► hand the butt of his hand it was like [TS]

◼   ► that kids doing something that nobody [TS]

◼   ► else is doing and then I was act i was [TS]

◼   ► at the show which I think was the [TS]

◼   ► turning point for modest mouse which was [TS]

◼   ► one day they were playing the crocodile [TS]

◼   ► cafe for their usual they expected their [TS]

◼   ► usual audience of 240 people and it was [TS]

◼   ► not their usual audience there was a [TS]

◼   ► sold-out show 350 people and the [TS]

◼   ► additional hundred people were all [TS]

◼   ► wearing white baseball caps backwards [TS]

◼   ► and modest mouse took the stage and were [TS]

◼   ► like whoa who are you and the hundred [TS]

◼   ► people went Wow modest mouse looked on [TS]

◼   ► stage horrified they looked as horrified [TS]

◼   ► as the as we were in the audience like [TS]

◼   ► who are these guys and it was the bros n [TS]

◼   ► roses he discovered them the bros [TS]

◼   ► discovered modest mouse and the bros [TS]

◼   ► came at where formerly there had been no [TS]

◼   ► bros there were now bros and the next [TS]

◼   ► time modest mouse played the 240 people [TS]

◼   ► who had followed their careers up until [TS]

◼   ► that point were gone and in their place [TS]

◼   ► were 900 bros and off they went I mean [TS]

◼   ► that was their career and you could you [TS]

◼   ► could tell they didn't want that you [TS]

◼   ► know you can see on their faces like no [TS]

◼   ► no no we want to we want the bar friends [TS]

◼   ► but you don't get to pick your audience [TS]

◼   ► and I wonder if that didn't happen to [TS]

◼   ► Ben Harper where been hyper was like wow [TS]

◼   ► what a while and one day they were all [TS]

◼   ► all these like joe michaels or dave [TS]

◼   ► michaels or what's in st. Michael's LOL [TS]

◼   ► yea jacket jacket right jack jack jack [TS]

◼   ► touch and then they were all there [TS]

◼   ► and uh and then it's like well you know [TS]

◼   ► but you don't get to pick your audience [TS]

◼   ► you gotta you gotta play for the people [TS]

◼   ► that are buying the ticket lots of [TS]

◼   ► crowded West came out in 1997 at least [TS]

◼   ► that's the first 1i owned i think one [TS]

◼   ► before that was a dub narcotic with a [TS]

◼   ► candle in 1k the they did everything [TS]

◼   ► right [TS]

◼   ► oh I mean in the in those early early [TS]

◼   ► days it's not that they did everything [TS]

◼   ► right it's that everybody liked them [TS]

◼   ► yeah they were quirky they were really [TS]

◼   ► good and you know I I they they made an [TS]

◼   ► album that never they made some [TS]

◼   ► recordings that never came out that are [TS]

◼   ► kind of owned by a friend of mines that [TS]

◼   ► still sit on his shelf on tape and he [TS]

◼   ► said that when they were 19 years old [TS]

◼   ► they were literally sniffing glue [TS]

◼   ► huh and that feels very authentic yeah [TS]

◼   ► like glue sniffing hmm [TS]

◼   ► right sure that's like wow you got it [TS]

◼   ► you got to kind of stop and put your [TS]

◼   ► finger on your chin and stare up at the [TS]

◼   ► ceiling after certain age that when [TS]

◼   ► you're doing and what you're doing it to [TS]

◼   ► be cool [TS]

◼   ► you're just sniffing glue because we [TS]

◼   ► think they'll never catch on in New York [TS]

◼   ► I mean as it is right now [TS]

◼   ► last time i was in new york i just felt [TS]

◼   ► like everybody was smoking and now I'm [TS]

◼   ► here in San Francisco for smoking might [TS]

◼   ► as well be masturbating into a back its [TS]

◼   ► it really looks like you said look I'm [TS]

◼   ► so sorry i just got 10 minutes i'm [TS]

◼   ► really stressed out you know anyone [TS]

◼   ► who's anyone could get hot you never [TS]

◼   ► know if you like New York really really [TS]

◼   ► doesn't just is just doesn't care [TS]

◼   ► and it's not ever going to care I [TS]

◼   ► remember one smoking was first outlawed [TS]

◼   ► in Los Angeles and there were all these [TS]

◼   ► bars where they so Los Angeles used to [TS]

◼   ► have a thing I don't think it does it [TS]

◼   ► anymore [TS]

◼   ► but it used to be very fashionable in LA [TS]

◼   ► to turn the lights down in the bar so [TS]

◼   ► low that you felt like you were in a [TS]

◼   ► catacomb could walk into a normal bar [TS]

◼   ► that normal couches and people sitting [TS]

◼   ► around and the lights were so freaking [TS]

◼   ► well they couldn't he was like you can't [TS]

◼   ► really navigate this social space [TS]

◼   ► because if everyone is just in shadow [TS]

◼   ► very safe it was not it didn't feel I [TS]

◼   ► was not and that you know I was rock and [TS]

◼   ► roll but I was not that comfortable [TS]

◼   ► being in a room with 300 people that I [TS]

◼   ► couldn't see because of dark not because [TS]

◼   ► if it was stranded people I couldn't see [TS]

◼   ► because of smoked a line chart and [TS]

◼   ► people I couldn't see before organic [TS]

◼   ► that's more like a grassroots kind of [TS]

◼   ► darkness [TS]

◼   ► yeah smoking up smoke it up but when [TS]

◼   ► smoking was first outlawed in Los [TS]

◼   ► Angeles there were all these bars where [TS]

◼   ► it was clear that that somebody said [TS]

◼   ► we're just not going to force that and [TS]

◼   ► so there was suddenly not just not just [TS]

◼   ► the normal amount of smoking is cool but [TS]

◼   ► now this additional like smoking is [TS]

◼   ► illegal [TS]

◼   ► I don't think that I don't think that [TS]

◼   ► goes on in la anymore i think that that [TS]

◼   ► was very that was very brief and then [TS]

◼   ► people realized women were la like wheat [TS]

◼   ► per capita 40 avocados a week remember [TS]

◼   ► capital that's a lot of condos you know [TS]

◼   ► yeah you know that's why of that's why [TS]

◼   ► global warming is that right yeah [TS]

◼   ► because of the avocados avocados you can [TS]

◼   ► get in California but people in 40 a day [TS]

◼   ► what you got yet probably have a 90 [TS]

◼   ► million people in LA so many million [TS]

◼   ► people something like the times x 40 [TS]

◼   ► avocados a day that's like 3600 avocados [TS]

◼   ► easy so that's why global warming haha [TS]

◼   ► yes [TS]

◼   ► not because there's not the kind of [TS]

◼   ► journalism that we used to have now and [TS]

◼   ► the smoke is probably not helping i see [TS]

◼   ► i think the smoking is out [TS]

◼   ► oh is it turns out John I'm looking out [TS]

◼   ► started smoking again i'm looking at [TS]

◼   ► sniffing glue here on the internet [TS]

◼   ► locker room you don't see locker room [TS]

◼   ► and rush like he is too with locker room [TS]

◼   ► oh yeah I've heard them called amyl [TS]

◼   ► nitrates I think the poppers but we just [TS]

◼   ► get a bottle of it and start it right [TS]

◼   ► out of the box [TS]

◼   ► all you're telling me that used to snort [TS]

◼   ► amyl nitrate I didn't know that's what [TS]

◼   ► it was called then I I see four years i [TS]

◼   ► heard angle nitrate as the drug that you [TS]

◼   ► would use in a gay bar today [TS]

◼   ► well see to me you would go to it i [TS]

◼   ► don't know i never knew why you went to [TS]

◼   ► a sex shop to get it but you would go to [TS]

◼   ► a sex shop and you play something on the [TS]

◼   ► order of five to eight dollars for a [TS]

◼   ► bottle of in Florida was called rush in [TS]

◼   ► most other places it was called locker [TS]

◼   ► room [TS]

◼   ► oh my god locker room locker room holy [TS]

◼   ► shit never occur to me till now so yeah [TS]

◼   ► right God's right it's right here on the [TS]

◼   ► label Bingbing you know you and you can [TS]

◼   ► you could snort that and I you know I [TS]

◼   ► used to do a fair amount that you clumsy [TS]

◼   ► ox my sense of smell nitrate was that it [TS]

◼   ► was a thing that you did right as you [TS]

◼   ► were orgasm [TS]

◼   ► yeah and and it turned your you know [TS]

◼   ► talk about jacking off in a bag [TS]

◼   ► yeah I control the whole thing into like [TS]

◼   ► a well-liked man on Coney Island it was [TS]

◼   ► a lot to recommend it yes certainly [TS]

◼   ► you're gonna have a brain-damaged [TS]

◼   ► situation but but the beauty of it was [TS]

◼   ► you could take it you could pretty [TS]

◼   ► easily get that into a concert and you [TS]

◼   ► can keep it in your car and it was the [TS]

◼   ► kind of thing where like if you smoked a [TS]

◼   ► doobie you're gonna have lots of smoke [TS]

◼   ► and stuff but like with with with locker [TS]

◼   ► room you get really super-high for like [TS]

◼   ► 90 seconds and in Gila headache and it [TS]

◼   ► goes away you do it again [TS]

◼   ► soccer room locker room you know the [TS]

◼   ► inhalant of choice in Alaska at the time [TS]

◼   ► was nitrous oxide and we would go to the [TS]

◼   ► party sometimes that's made a comeback [TS]

◼   ► we find a lot of those on the street [TS]

◼   ► here [TS]

◼   ► nitrous yep it's a column yeah we but we [TS]

◼   ► would go we don't we need weapons but we [TS]

◼   ► also went to the party supply store and [TS]

◼   ► would buy like a canister besides pretty [TS]

◼   ► costly if you buy a man with it [TS]

◼   ► format even if you've got a cracker in a [TS]

◼   ► balloon that's that gets pretty costly [TS]

◼   ► yeah you so we that's why we would buy [TS]

◼   ► them in these like fire extinguisher [TS]

◼   ► sized you can't you saying you cut out [TS]

◼   ► the middleman cut out the middleman mhm [TS]

◼   ► and we'd say we're putting on up [TS]

◼   ► we're doing a party for our high school [TS]

◼   ► home and we'd like to buy a thing of [TS]

◼   ► this for our balloons and they would be [TS]

◼   ► like here you go son have a good time [TS]

◼   ► now with cream party and then there was [TS]

◼   ► an adapter [TS]

◼   ► mhm you would screw on it that would [TS]

◼   ► allow you to fill up balloons and of [TS]

◼   ► course how do you use nitrous oxide you [TS]

◼   ► fill up a balloon we switch balloons you [TS]

◼   ► think about going [TS]

◼   ► shopping buy this thing we call it a [TS]

◼   ► cracker what is this thing that there [TS]

◼   ► was a bespoke item laconic brass [TS]

◼   ► knuckles you open it up and stick the [TS]

◼   ► little whip it in there and then you had [TS]

◼   ► a our kids punch balloon attached to [TS]

◼   ► that [TS]

◼   ► yeah points and classic ugly drug [TS]

◼   ► paraphernalia [TS]

◼   ► yeah but we never no one was hip to amyl [TS]

◼   ► nitrate in Alaska we were too busy doing [TS]

◼   ► nitrous let alone and I think nitrous so [TS]

◼   ► it's nice it's wit very superior it's a [TS]

◼   ► wonderful wonderful high if you've never [TS]

◼   ► tried it i highly recommend it and I'm [TS]

◼   ► not a doctor I'm not a medical doctor [TS]

◼   ► friend introduced me to nitrous oxide [TS]

◼   ► and dancing siouxsie and the banshees [TS]

◼   ► and I never looked back [TS]

◼   ► I was listening to Siouxsie and the [TS]

◼   ► Banshees the other day yeah said their [TS]

◼   ► lives and uh well matter and i'll tell [TS]

◼   ► you if we don't know imagine that [TS]

◼   ► imagine get the 12 inch of that the [TS]

◼   ► really long version [TS]

◼   ► yeah you doing some nitrous think about [TS]

◼   ► that for a minute buddy i am thinking [TS]

◼   ► about it i miss you at least want to [TS]

◼   ► masturbate in the bag [TS]

◼   ► I lived it lived it and I it's also you [TS]

◼   ► know nitrous oxide is very good with [TS]

◼   ► with classic classic era of British [TS]

◼   ► heavy metal [TS]

◼   ► oh yeah yeah yeah and it's I can also [TS]

◼   ► well i'm not suggesting this I don't [TS]

◼   ► think it's a good idea but it can also [TS]

◼   ► be nice when you're super high [TS]

◼   ► ok so this is this is the thing and this [TS]

◼   ► is what I've never fully legit dr pepper [TS]

◼   ► with that what you used to drink dr. [TS]

◼   ► pepper is that right yeah well mountain [TS]

◼   ► dew unnecessary monday and then dr. [TS]

◼   ► pepper as as time went on I said look [TS]

◼   ► mountains for kids [TS]

◼   ► yeah a dr pepper is a sophisticated [TS]

◼   ► drink sophisticated because because it's [TS]

◼   ► old and you feel like an old-world drink [TS]

◼   ► it's an old-world drink you think of you [TS]

◼   ► know like an old man is going to order a [TS]

◼   ► dr pepper and a soda fountain [TS]

◼   ► yeah it's got like a pretty taste [TS]

◼   ► nobody's gonna order a mountain dew this [TS]

◼   ► I mean mountain dew is like it if you're [TS]

◼   ► down in the different and strange [TS]

◼   ► fucking MOOCs in cheeps fuck that if [TS]

◼   ► you're if you're in the Appalachians and [TS]

◼   ► you say mountain dew you might get a [TS]

◼   ► moonshot oh are you might get my get a [TS]

◼   ► bottle of crystal meth [TS]

◼   ► I bet it's one of those things where [TS]

◼   ► somebody call namespace pollution I bet [TS]

◼   ► there's a lot of things called Mountain [TS]

◼   ► Dew and be real careful which order and [TS]

◼   ► on whom I bet if you're in the Panhandle [TS]

◼   ► in san francisco and you ask the iphone [TS]

◼   ► mountain dew you're going to get a sheet [TS]

◼   ► of blotter acid coordinate your hand [TS]

◼   ► here or you're in a bag of that hand you [TS]

◼   ► the bag gonna rush guys North this while [TS]

◼   ► urinating on we gotta get a mountain dew [TS]

◼   ► no ice [TS]

◼   ► I feel I feel like the thing about [TS]

◼   ► nitrous oxide when you're watching when [TS]

◼   ► you're watching a movie in the speed or [TS]

◼   ► rush sonra right where some [TS]

◼   ► rush sonra right where some [TS]

◼   ► young people are driving some fast cars [TS]

◼   ► ok some like gone and gone in 30 seconds [TS]

◼   ► yeah or whatever the feathers found in [TS]

◼   ► the angry yeah gone in 15 seconds 15 [TS]

◼   ► seconds and then that then the following [TS]

◼   ► movie was gone 11 seconds 15-5 so all of [TS]

◼   ► those all of those movies those racers [TS]

◼   ► movies yeah you'll notice that they [TS]

◼   ► often have a bottle of nitrous oxide as [TS]

◼   ► a performance enhancer yeah right but [TS]

◼   ► where they shoot nitrous into their car [TS]

◼   ► and it somehow i think the way it works [TS]

◼   ► is that it somehow it just uh Evel [TS]

◼   ► Knievel has given talks about this you [TS]

◼   ► can use to say you don't be doing drugs [TS]

◼   ► that's like doing pure nitrous now nux [TS]

◼   ► when nuts hit the pedal to get the extra [TS]

◼   ► speed in fury road is that nitrous [TS]

◼   ► probably yes [TS]

◼   ► knocks knocks nitrous oxide right and no [TS]

◼   ► ass and yeah I like densify the fuel or [TS]

◼   ► something and then at work ones and then [TS]

◼   ► you're all of a sudden you're slammed [TS]

◼   ► back into the back of your chair at my [TS]

◼   ► don't have power potential mangel bar [TS]

◼   ► yep yep and and i'm good i'm gonna go [TS]

◼   ► out on a limb here and say that the if [TS]

◼   ► even one of those movies when the [TS]

◼   ► nitrous button gets pushed you have the [TS]

◼   ► person that goes into the lead at that [TS]

◼   ► moment is not going to win the race [TS]

◼   ► oh my yeah yeah yeahs oil mm-hmm [TS]

◼   ► but so I have found that nitrous is acts [TS]

◼   ► similarly as a power enhancer for other [TS]

◼   ► drugs like marijuana if you do some [TS]

◼   ► marijuana and then you push the button [TS]

◼   ► on some nitrous yeah you're going to get [TS]

◼   ► more stone more hot and he would have an [TS]

◼   ► additive quality right around now I'm [TS]

◼   ► sure there are people listening to this [TS]

◼   ► program we were like why are these two [TS]

◼   ► advocating drugs i can well we're not [TS]

◼   ► but i can tell you why because our [TS]

◼   ► marijuana is not your marijuana [TS]

◼   ► mm that's right want to you by you by [TS]

◼   ► that's fucking crazy as marijuana you [TS]

◼   ► people he loved your marijuana get [TS]

◼   ► forget it i had stuff like that maybe [TS]

◼   ► once in my life maybe your top of the [TS]

◼   ► chronic i am talking about the chronic [TS]

◼   ► didn't that the medical grade as they [TS]

◼   ► said [TS]

◼   ► yeah i'm talking about the Matanuska [TS]

◼   ► thunderfuck operations I'm i wanted i [TS]

◼   ► went to a drug screening of the day [TS]

◼   ► first time I've been in 1i draw anymore [TS]

◼   ► i want to know the story of drug the [TS]

◼   ► story of the ok tienda de les drugs they [TS]

◼   ► lost wrongs and I said to the guy leaned [TS]

◼   ► on the counter you know kind of casual [TS]

◼   ► because I don't belong there [TS]

◼   ► right because i haven't done any drugs [TS]

◼   ► in 20 years now but I'm there were some [TS]

◼   ► friends they wanted to go to the [TS]

◼   ► drugstore [TS]

◼   ► hey we're in seattle can we go to the [TS]

◼   ► drugstore mhm I was like Charlotte the [TS]

◼   ► drugstore I know where one is i know [TS]

◼   ► gallon owns one we go and we're leaning [TS]

◼   ► there and they've got some they've got [TS]