00:00:00 ◼ ► this episode of rock on the line is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/0">TS</a>]
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00:00:22 ◼ ► hello hi John hi Merlin is going well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/22">TS</a>]
00:00:29 ◼ ► no dear i'm switching headphones you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/29">TS</a>]
00:00:33 ◼ ► seem like you're in a different room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/33">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► yeah i'm always in a different room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/35">TS</a>]
00:00:36 ◼ ► stand by here goes headphones with ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/36">TS</a>]
00:00:39 ◼ ► ah I can't hear you now because i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/39">TS</a>]
00:00:43 ◼ ► switching John is switching so here we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/43">TS</a>]
00:00:45 ◼ ► we'll need to hear unfolding China's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/45">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► back John is switching his headphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/48">TS</a>]
00:00:50 ◼ ► either can hear me yeah you sound good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/50">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► can hear me Merlin yeah I can hear I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/51">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► oh ok i'm having a problem with a large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/56">TS</a>]
00:01:02 ◼ ► are you on bart equipment what it is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/62">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► it's a headphone jack and malfunctioning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/66">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► yeah and so I only I'm hearing you in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/72">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► oh I just in one year just in one area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/75">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► must be maddening that's not good that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/78">TS</a>]
00:01:21 ◼ ► not good that's not how I normally here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/81">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► Merlin Mann and it's what it feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/83">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► to be Brian Wilson this is exactly what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/85">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► it feels like to be Brian I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/88">TS</a>]
00:01:29 ◼ ► right now I'm and I filled my living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/89">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► room was saying its full catch em oh man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/91">TS</a>]
00:01:36 ◼ ► yeah so it's almost a form of virtual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/96">TS</a>]
00:01:41 ◼ ► reality or sec augmented reality this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/101">TS</a>]
00:01:43 ◼ ► kind of it's a it's a nurse at Brian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/103">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► Wilson emulator yeah it's it's like dr [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/106">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► demented reality or dog mented reality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/109">TS</a>]
00:01:58 ◼ ► I'm broadcasting to you live from Venice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/118">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► oh there you are can you see the beach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/122">TS</a>]
00:02:04 ◼ ► no no I can't see the beach i can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/124">TS</a>]
00:02:07 ◼ ► Russia from here but not the beach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/127">TS</a>]
00:02:09 ◼ ► yeah that's one thing about Alaskans a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/129">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► lot of people don't know it isn't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/131">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► Alaska is close to Russia it's just that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/133">TS</a>]
00:02:19 ◼ ► is that it now has hasn't fallen nature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/139">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► versus nurture is that just something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/141">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► thats is something like in the water or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/143">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► do you think something genetic it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/146">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► really more Heisenberg Ian oh sure right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/149">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► like you're not sure what happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/153">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► well know that Russia is there by virtue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/155">TS</a>]
00:02:37 ◼ ► of our observation rather than there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/157">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► being a Russian really necessarily units [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/160">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► and about quantum quantum observation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/163">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► there it is that's right that's right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/165">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► i observe Russia and then spookily at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/167">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► observed Russian and if everybody in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/173">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► Alaska lined up at the same time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/175">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► know who knows we would be like Hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/178">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► Across America before for vision or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/179">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► mhm i was watching now you know they got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/182">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► full-season a bob ross on their endeavor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/189">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► thought of his program is happening in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/192">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► seasons he's a very interesting guy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/194">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► he you know he don't know if you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/199">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► watched his his old show on PBS but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/202">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► it's a it's it's strangely relaxing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/204">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► kind of fascinating to watch don't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/206">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► how you could be an American person and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/209">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► yeah because because it's not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/213">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► instantly mesmerizing e yeah it's and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/217">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► mean you know what he say about bob ross [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/221">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► i mean obviously he had a it was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/223">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► a bit was one of those things like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/225">TS</a>]
00:03:47 ◼ ► star hustler or something where people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/227">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► knew about it and it's funny you make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/228">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► fun of it but but when you actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/230">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► watch the show it's it's pretty amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/232">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► like to feel like you have a lot to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/234">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► about bob ross maybe more than most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/236">TS</a>]
00:03:59 ◼ ► well you know i am going to wikipedia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/239">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► but the reason I mentioned here you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/242">TS</a>]
00:04:04 ◼ ► it is on netflix if you ever get a TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/244">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► but the other thing is that he has said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/246">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► numerous times in this just makes sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/249">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► to me that a lot of his inspiration was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/251">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► very inspired technically by this by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/254">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► popularized the wet on wet painting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/258">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► technique they eventually had a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/260">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► fracture fracture in their relationship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/262">TS</a>]
00:04:24 ◼ ► that's very sad but the fact that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/264">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► paints the way that he does in the kinds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/266">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► of things that he does is owing to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/268">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► fact that he was stationed in alaska was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/270">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► cute when he was in the service he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/273">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► like a like a sergeant guy and I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/275">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► like supply or something like that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/278">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► that's when he took up painting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/279">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► augment his income he would make these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/281">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► paintings and sell them and that Alaskan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/282">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► influence is still there so that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/285">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► maybe that has something to do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/286">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► nature of his visions any different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/288">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► he he uses the wet on wet technique the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/290">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► wet on wet technique yeah that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/293">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► that's what enables the whole thing wet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/295">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► on wet now that I don't know a lot about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/297">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► this but it's my understanding that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/300">TS</a>]
00:05:01 ◼ ► typically when your oil painting you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/301">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► your campus you get your chest so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/303">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► got your that dry stretch your cameras [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/304">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► got all ready to go and start painting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/306">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► in layers and I think he ordinarily wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/308">TS</a>]
00:05:14 ◼ ► well before you putting more on what Bob [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/314">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► Ross does based on this technique this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/318">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► guy named Alexander not to be confused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/320">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► with the alexander technique he uses he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/321">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► has a hole wet canvas really uses the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/324">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► wet paint and you know what Bob Bob Bob [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/326">TS</a>]
00:05:29 ◼ ► rossi he doesn't call it a mistake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/329">TS</a>]
00:05:31 ◼ ► because it a happy accident you can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/331">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► these happy cloud happy tree and he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/333">TS</a>]
00:05:36 ◼ ► squirrels on a show sometimes I my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/336">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► experience loses one of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/339">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► growing up I didn't I guess I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/341">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► think about it until i was out of Alaska [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/344">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► Heisenberg in things where you can't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/349">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► it until until you take yourself out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/352">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► it's like it's like a Schroedinger box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/356">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► right you can't tell if I the burgers in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/360">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► so I moved away from Alaska and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/365">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► realized that all art in Alaska or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/368">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► vast majority of art in Alaska is kitsch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/371">TS</a>]
00:06:14 ◼ ► all Alaska absurd painting landscape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/374">TS</a>]
00:06:20 ◼ ► painting is all done in this style where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/380">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► there's the northern lights and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/383">TS</a>]
00:06:25 ◼ ► snowy it's nighttime and there's a and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/385">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► there's a a log cash and maybe you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/387">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► definitely maybe some unhappy trees but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/396">TS</a>]
00:06:43 ◼ ► painting of Alaska or multiple paintings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/403">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► of Alaska in their home and they're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/406">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► this sort of they're all done in a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/409">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► similar style a lot of them are actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/411">TS</a>]
00:06:54 ◼ ► painted on gold bands which is a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/414">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► that song in some ways you know you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/418">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► what a gold pan looks like like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/422">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► sentence creek pants use for pitchers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/423">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► hold ya so discreet been right so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/425">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► is a gold pans are a canvas in Alaskan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/428">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► culture upon which all manner of dreams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/433">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► someone's home in Alaska and there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/440">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► they are middle-class it's but there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/443">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► very good chance that they will have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/446">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► gold pan mounted on the wall that has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/447">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► painting on it and and their bare you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/450">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► know that these paintings vary in size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/454">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► primarily and if you go into a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/458">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► nice house in Alaska maybe one that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/462">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► really nicely decorated in every other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/465">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► way somewhere you will find a gold pan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/467">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► some more prominently a gold pan painted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/470">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► with the scene of the northern lights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/472">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► and a little cash and some snow and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/474">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► the finest Alaskan painting the jacob [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/479">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► Velasquez theme of paintings that now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/484">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► sell for tens and hundreds of thousands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/486">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► of dollars are also landscape paintings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/489">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► and they don't necessarily have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/491">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► northern lights in them there's that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/494">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► think maybe the very highest echelon of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/497">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► Alaskan painting you are allowed to not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/499">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► hmm but a but and this is kind of true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/503">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► of like all Alaskan culture right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/508">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► the songs that come out of Alaska [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/512">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► including my cousins albums they feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/515">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► Alaska I prominently and the writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/521">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► that comes out of Alaska's largely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/525">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► centered on Alaska or or takes place in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/528">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► Alaska there's there's that it's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/531">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► it's that it's that encompass moment a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/533">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► compass in Ascension engine went yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/537">TS</a>]
00:09:03 ◼ ► alas canna Alaska which produces a last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/543">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► canna and alas canna is the primary form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/546">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► of like cultural production of Alaska [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/550">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► and so now that i know bob ross learned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/553">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► that in Alaska it so much makes sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/557">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► reproducible miss of it the the the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/561">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► that those landscapes kind of come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/566">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► his and now i'm thinking about them you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/569">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► know sort of located on a giant gold pan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/572">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► all he needs is a little bit of northern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/578">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► lights well let me catch these paintings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/579">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► are not cheap and the gold pan painting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/583">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► something with you that will probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/587">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► searched on the internet for gold pan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/591">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► paintings it it auto completed with bob [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/592">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► ross what gold campaigns I'm i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/595">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► looking right now at some of the mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/598">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► bob ross original gold pan paintings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/600">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► including one of a mountain and a cabin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/603">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► you're kidding time not i'm not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/607">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► we have arrived it we've arrived at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/611">TS</a>]
00:10:16 ◼ ► my gosh is a lot of sirens going by hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/616">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► everything's okay you have noticed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/618">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► encroaching what do I think what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/626">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► pretty cold today those those uh and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/629">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► sound a little bit like police sirens to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/634">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► me i'm not sure there's a difference but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/636">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► demonstrate I can tell the different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/640">TS</a>]
00:10:41 ◼ ► kinds of delivery services by the sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/641">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► I can't hear many things but I'm usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/644">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► pretty good at identifying vehicles you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/645">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► do that when planes you can do that with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/648">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► planes i can try to get pretty close i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/649">TS</a>]
00:10:52 ◼ ► can try an airplane to to know what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/652">TS</a>]
00:10:54 ◼ ► hearing yeah it's very very distinctive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/654">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► cadence to it to US postal service truck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/656">TS</a>]
00:10:59 ◼ ► that's not right that's the different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/659">TS</a>]
00:11:04 ◼ ► FedEx truck sound more expensive and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/664">TS</a>]
00:11:06 ◼ ► the Postal Service ones have a very have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/666">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► a very distinctive kind of disappointed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/668">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► what are the ones that sound like rumble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/674">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► Rumble Rumble which ones are those that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/676">TS</a>]
00:11:23 ◼ ► sounds to me like a garbage truck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/683">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► oh em that my pee yeah what I'm thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/687">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► of where our garbage garbage truck is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/690">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► unchanged and change the topic it very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/693">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► leisurely very leisurely garbage person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/695">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► so they really really take their time my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/697">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► garbage truck because i live in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/701">TS</a>]
00:11:42 ◼ ► maybe like a crosshatch neighborhood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/702">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► that has some some streets are are dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/705">TS</a>]
00:11:49 ◼ ► ends Cossacks the garbage men and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/709">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► mmm they come through the neighborhood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/715">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► in a very curious pattern where instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/718">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► of going down the streets that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/725">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► blocked off they they turn their trucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/727">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► at and then back down the streets that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/731">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► that's interesting yeah so that advocate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/735">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► yeah they that's their routine they you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/739">TS</a>]
00:12:21 ◼ ► know they pull little T maneuver and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/741">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► then they back all the way down the long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/743">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► block to the end and then are able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/746">TS</a>]
00:12:29 ◼ ► drive forward out of there but what that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/749">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► means is that half the time they're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/752">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► my neighborhood by volume they are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/755">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► course fully half the time and or maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/759">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► even more the time because more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/768">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► more than half the time because you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/769">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► to account for the time that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/770">TS</a>]
00:12:52 ◼ ► pulling the team maneuver and so and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/772">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► they come service my neighborhood at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/777">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► neighborhood in town to get their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/781">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► garbage picked up on fridays and so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/784">TS</a>]
00:13:10 ◼ ► a real symphony the beeps plus rattles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/790">TS</a>]
00:13:15 ◼ ► and squeaky brakes and big diesel motors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/795">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► or whatever those are now two diesel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/798">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► combined with compressed air combined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/801">TS</a>]
00:13:23 ◼ ► with corn syrup and whatever those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/803">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► motors are running on and and also they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/806">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► get their route I've tried to try to map [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/811">TS</a>]
00:13:34 ◼ ► it as you do that you try to map view [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/814">TS</a>]
00:13:37 ◼ ► the garbage truck says that you likely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/817">TS</a>]
00:13:39 ◼ ► you reach a certain certain and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/819">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► talked about Rev route talk or root talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/821">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► a.sesay and you know I think as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/823">TS</a>]
00:13:45 ◼ ► reach a certain age in life you became [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/825">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► very interested in how people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/826">TS</a>]
00:13:49 ◼ ► compelled or choose to wear out their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/829">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► vehicles i think it's a very interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/832">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► topic and then once you start noticing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/833">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► yeah you can't help but notice right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/835">TS</a>]
00:13:57 ◼ ► I and I thought you know the the way the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/837">TS</a>]
00:13:59 ◼ ► garbage trucks empty a neighborhood of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/839">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► their of the neighborhood's garbage and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/843">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► then move on you know that's a system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/845">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► that's part of a larger system and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/847">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► became curious as to whether it was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/851">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► Emma tized across the whole city or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/854">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► whether each whether the managers like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/856">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► it's like a car and every year ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/859">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► yeah every neighborhood is d garbage in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/861">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► a different way that's right makes sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/863">TS</a>]
00:14:25 ◼ ► up but maybe not you know maybe maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/865">TS</a>]
00:14:28 ◼ ► it's maybe its institutional a top-down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/868">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► system or maybe garbage managers like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/871">TS</a>]
00:14:34 ◼ ► listen my own neighborhood I know better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/874">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► than anyone and in our neighborhood in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/877">TS</a>]
00:14:40 ◼ ► my in Sector 14 we back down every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/880">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► called a sec and the guy that's running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/883">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► some sector-12 is like that's ridiculous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/885">TS</a>]
00:14:48 ◼ ► who knows i don't i'm not i'm not privy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/888">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► I you know with when I was running for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/891">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► City Council one of the questions I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/894">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► asked my team was once i'm in city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/895">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► council because I presume that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/900">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► do I have the authority doing do I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/903">TS</a>]
00:15:06 ◼ ► the ability to go down to the Sanitation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/906">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► Department and get a report and say I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/908">TS</a>]
00:15:10 ◼ ► like a report I'd like to sit here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/910">TS</a>]
00:15:13 ◼ ► be in a room with you guys and get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/913">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► report from everybody about what's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/915">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► what kind of decreasing yeah and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/917">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► looked at each my team sort of looked at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/919">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► each other and slowly nodded and said he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/922">TS</a>]
00:15:27 ◼ ► would be able to do that I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/927">TS</a>]
00:15:31 ◼ ► wouldn't know why you were there and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/931">TS</a>]
00:15:33 ◼ ► said all climb there i just want to i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/933">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► want to go around to the city and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/936">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► the all the agencies that are performing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/939">TS</a>]
00:15:42 ◼ ► all these marvelous tasks I want to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/942">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► thank you i'm not going to tell them how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/945">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► to do their jobs just you you seek first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/947">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► yeah it's like Don Schaffner food safety [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/951">TS</a>]
00:15:55 ◼ ► questions about how the garbages how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/955">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► about the plan is run here and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/957">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► people who think about how they do their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/959">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► job all day long are usually very keen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/961">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► yeah yeah I couldn't wait but but now as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/965">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► a layperson is just a common member of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/968">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► I don't feel like I have this thing is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/972">TS</a>]
00:16:15 ◼ ► don't want to just go like wait in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/975">TS</a>]
00:16:17 ◼ ► lobby with my hat in my hand for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/977">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► press secretary to come out and say what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/979">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► constantly reexamining our processes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/983">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► find efficiencies and yeah I don't say I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/985">TS</a>]
00:16:28 ◼ ► just want to sit in a room with all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/988">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► with all those district managers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/990">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► garbages then they just be like listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/993">TS</a>]
00:16:37 ◼ ► yeah but if I showed up as a city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/997">TS</a>]
00:16:39 ◼ ► councilman with my you know my little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/999">TS</a>]
00:16:41 ◼ ► yeah imagine the power point that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1001">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► would get to see and I probably would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:47 ◼ ► scare people that that's not what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1007">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► want that's not what they get most city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► council people and by most I mean all to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► not have not been to the Sanitation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► Department probably although who knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1016">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► but uh but yes so i'm very curious about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1018">TS</a>]
00:17:02 ◼ ► it and once i started watching what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1022">TS</a>]
00:17:04 ◼ ► were doing it so it's quite an elaborate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1024">TS</a>]
00:17:08 ◼ ► it's a it's a little bit of a swan lake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1028">TS</a>]
00:17:10 ◼ ► that's happening and garbage trucks it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1030">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► seems to me are running a running a a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:18 ◼ ► lot of redundant trips down the street [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1038">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► you know I mean like garbage truck comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1043">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► first appears in the neighborhood goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:29 ◼ ► past my house kind of a add up at a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1049">TS</a>]
00:17:33 ◼ ► ok it's going somewhere it's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1053">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► somewhere yeah then I hear it beeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:38 ◼ ► somewhere in the neighborhood and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1058">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► another garbage truck goes by again at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:47 ◼ ► pretty good clip on a different Street [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1067">TS</a>]
00:17:49 ◼ ► it's not the same garbage truck it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1069">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► different one on a neighboring streets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► oh I hear him go by then I hear him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► beeping and mind your mind beeping and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► then one of them goes by my house again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1077">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► still not making any attempt to stop and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► pick up garbage and i'm watching these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► things go by and I'm like I would think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► that there would be a route through this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:10 ◼ ► neighborhood that would just sort of be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1090">TS</a>]
00:18:12 ◼ ► like an S and one garbage truck would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1092">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► just go s around and pick up all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► I wouldn't think it would require two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► garbage trucks making multiple passes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► before they arrive at their and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► this is all this is all residential this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► is all residents presumably everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► has mostly the same trash containers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► they're all identical ok alright this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:41 ◼ ► this is this is good this is a mystery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1121">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► as the kind of thing you know once you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:45 ◼ ► get this on your mind it's hard to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1125">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► it off right so you know I and I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► usually up at six or seven to be out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► like chasing them around with that with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► a clipboard state love that you get home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1136">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► hold on just a second here one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► greatest experiences I ever had was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► right when i moved into my house I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► cleaned out all this garbage from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► from the house and had produced a stack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:16 ◼ ► of like 30 black garbage bags it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1156">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► just a mountain of garbage bags out in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► front of my house and I'd gone on to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:24 ◼ ► city website send and read all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1164">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► information about it and city has very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► clear rules about overages they said you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► get two garbage bags as part of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► weekly thing and then each additional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► quick question point of the information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:48 ◼ ► so do you have cans for those are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1188">TS</a>]
00:19:52 ◼ ► these are bags on the curb I did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1192">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► have 30 garbage cans had them stacked up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1194">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► in a pyramid and a and I was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1197">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► anxious because I didn't you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► was the only place I could put these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► bags the garbage man was about to arrive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► stair dismount bags and start counting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► up in increments of 80 how much I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:13 ◼ ► going to own and he and I'm so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1213">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► yeah well I mean you know there they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► this is all part of the system they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► they've determined the price of extra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► oh that I would be able to understand if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► I had gone if I'd won my race for City [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► Council but I don't understand presently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► and I didn't understand them it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► exactly a dollar moves a lot of money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► that was good to take all these 30 bags [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► gonna be a lot of money for the cheaper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:48 ◼ ► have a holler person come out right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1248">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► I just cleaned the place out this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► this was all very fresh and so I made a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► point to be standing next to my mountain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1258">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► of garbage bags at seven o'clock in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► morning we are rolled I i had even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:06 ◼ ► dressed okay because I wanted to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1266">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► meeting you're taking yeah I wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► make a good presentation I wanted my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► yeah I understand your karma the bass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► player of the Death Cab for Cutie's had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► worked as a garbage man into comas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► hilltop neighborhood a long time ago as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► a young man before he was a before he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:27 ◼ ► was in a rock band and he'd given me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1287">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► lot of garbage man inside knowledge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► yes he told me all about being a garbage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:39 ◼ ► man he told the story about an old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1299">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► garbage man on his route in tacoma who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► had a very very large collection only of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► discarded Polaroid sex pictures people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► would take you know their picture of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► their girlfriend or their wife and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1316">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► for whatever reason would throw the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► I don't understand they moved pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:05 ◼ ► fast but somehow they're also visually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1325">TS</a>]
00:22:09 ◼ ► sorting garbage probably a lot like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1329">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► crows I mean just just in the sense that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► they have a very experienced has given [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► them giving them a very attenuated I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► toward a variety of kinds of things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:22 ◼ ► they might want to know about in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1342">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► tracking mhm i believe that too and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:26 ◼ ► think i would love to be a garbage man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1346">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► for that reason but i think it only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► really becomes meaningful if you've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► a garbageman for 20 years is canceled so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► so according to nick this guy carried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► and he had multiple photo albums just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► I think you told me about this am and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► and I feel like because I have a I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1375">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► another friend who collects Polaroid's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1376">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► that were taken in in prisons in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► seventies and his collection of prison [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► Polaroid's is really beautiful and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► says that online there are people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► are like also collecting polarizer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► prison life in the seventies and that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► often gets into bidding wars with these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► people and losses to have an original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► well that's the thing it's a pole right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► right this is the direct connection to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► the event and so i'm guessing that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► community of people who are interested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► in a giant collection of like homemade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► because the Polaroids not a very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► picture particularly a Polaroid taken in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► a house at night in the country every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► Polaroid is very intimate right and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► so it's it would be it would be it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► very intimate it's on unusual all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1436">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► pictures are from Tacoma that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► there lot of probably through threads a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► lot of a lot of red garter belts I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► I don't know exactly what all was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► this but it was a collection is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:10 ◼ ► proud of it made me think a lot about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1450">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► garbage men and what they're doing Nick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► armor set a great thing to do on a hot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► summer day is to fill the top of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:20 ◼ ► garbage can with ice and put a six-pack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1460">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► of beer of good beer in a little ice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► like a little ice nest inside the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► garbage can so when the guy lifts the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► lid off here's this little icy beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► moment in their day and then that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► consumer that's left that for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► yeah as a token it's like leaving some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► some beads and shiny glass for the crows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► and so one day on the hot summer day I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► was out monkeying around my yard and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1493">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► remember this conversation and again i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1496">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► was up early and so I was like a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► idea and I had some beer in my house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► that someone had left Iran and I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► some ice made a little ice nest in top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:11 ◼ ► of my garbage can and put a six-pack of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1511">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► beer in there and I was so I was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:16 ◼ ► proud of this little beer gift and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1516">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► naturally when I heard the garbage cans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► rattling and beeping in my neighborhood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► I ran and hid behind a bush like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► like Santa a little bit like Santa I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► like Heidi Heidi Santa and I'm hiding in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:36 ◼ ► a bush and i'm waiting in the end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1536">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► garbage trucks are going by and rattling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► beeping and it was very frustrating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► because I was like come on you guys they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► had to do their thing all around my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► neighborhood finally the garbage truck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► comes and the eye lifts the lid off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:53 ◼ ► can it and he stops and looks at the at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1553">TS</a>]
00:25:57 ◼ ► the ice nest and the beer and then he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1557">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► carefully takes the six-pack of beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:03 ◼ ► empty the garbage can put the garbage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1563">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► can back and then they drive off and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► beers left sitting on the sidewalk if he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► no I think he just didn't want me beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► or i but but I thought about this a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:19 ◼ ► is he not allowed to take the beer sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1579">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► is there are he and his partner in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► recovery it did he consider this our the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► Mormons did he consider this to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:29 ◼ ► like some kind of it an insult maybe he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1589">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► did think it was a test it seems like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:34 ◼ ► you're going to test a garbage man you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1594">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► wouldn't go to the trouble of making a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► maybe the maybe garbageman culture into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► coma is really lacks and fun and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► partying and garbageman Seattle are very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► so like I didn't know but I had I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► done this thing and it had been it had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► been rejected that you know it had been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► because it feels it feels like a like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1617">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► maybe they misinterpreted it i cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► know and I can't know without having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► gone as a city councilman and got a full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► report from the entire thats really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:12 ◼ ► washing over me at this point John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1632">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► disappointed or frustrated that your run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► didn't go the way we want it but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► just thinking I mean like in Florida we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► had Governor Bob Graham who was famous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:24 ◼ ► for always going out and it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1644">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► regular thing he did as governor where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► he would go out and work for being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► part of a day at all different kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► jobs that that seems like that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► oh yeah absolutely I would have done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:35 ◼ ► ride-alongs with everybody yeah the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1655">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► linemen and the sewer people and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► you know kind of the soul totally walked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► out me look flopped out into the yard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► and picked up my unwanted beer and took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► it back and put it in my pantry because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1675">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► i don't want to either come out that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1676">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► the other thing maybe they just didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► like to contact a sure all right who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► know you just no way for now I'll never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► but anyway this one day the very early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► on in my house i'm standing out there a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► garbage truck comes around i'm basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:15 ◼ ► standing there waiting in a suit with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1695">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► the guy pulls up gets out a recognizes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► that I'm there to talk to him because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► i'm standing next to a mountain of 30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► garbage banks and he says where we got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► here and I said well I have 30 garbage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:33 ◼ ► bags and I wanted to talk to you about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► him and he looked at him and he looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► at me and he said yeah give me twenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► he said 40 bucks and I said sold i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► know i don't want to keep talking this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► yeah and I took 40 bucks out of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1735">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► wallet I gave it to him and the two of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1737">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► us through 30 garbage bags in the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► of his truck shook hands and off he went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► win-win everybody wins he's 40 bucks the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► goes away it was gonna end up in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► yep and and I didn't pee dollars a bag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► so there is enough autonomy there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► enough like opportunity for somebody to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► to make a little you know to what their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► while the garbage all goes down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► stream so i learned a lot that day but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► but a and I don't think it was the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► if he if he jumped out of the truck on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► on beer next day I would recognize the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► guy because he's seared into my memory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► as one of the people I'm most grateful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► to see how course and grateful for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► wasn't that it wasn't that guy was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► different person that didn't want my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:55 ◼ ► beer my arm my late grandparents didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1795">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► they mainly got traveled to buy us but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► on the occasions that my grandfather the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► rare occasions my grandfather and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► grandmother would stay in a hotel motel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► my grandfather had a system to he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► thought was pretty bulletproof and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► did include putting the TV remote in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► plastic bag now this before remotes but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► you know that i can think about it he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► went down he would very mindful II put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► quarter on the floor in in plain sight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► IC and if that quarter was gone he knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► that place is crooked stones corner that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► was his like you know quarter in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:44 ◼ ► uh-huh this is kind of like in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1844">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► experience putting a walkie-talkie in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► the middle of Florida that's right it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► an invitation to adventure but i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► we all we all have little systems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► that but when something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1854">TS</a>]
00:30:56 ◼ ► happens on that spy stuff like you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1856">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► know you can put like a piece of paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1858">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► you know in the door and if it's on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► floor you know somebody's open this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► thing is all that kind of like spy stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► you're reading books but like I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► sure if that's such an efficient method [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► trustworthiness of a larger but I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► it's not yeah because they might mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► just might not see it but on the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► hand this this could be something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► the sting this could be a long con but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► when he would come back to his room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► after going to the beach or or or Bob [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► naps or what-have-you if that quarter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► was on the counter in clear sight i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► think that made him really happy i bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► yeah or if somebody had picked it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► from where it was and put it put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► somewhere else the place of prominence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► like eyes on your court that that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► I'm saying that's what I'm saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► was that was a good sign for him i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► hundred-dollar bill under the American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► hundred-dollar bill under the tablecloth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► in Cuba story i don't remember if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1910">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► did have another friend who was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► journalist with things like you put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1916">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► money in the kids bible and remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► no it was one of those things where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► Cuban Secret Service the Cuban spits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► knots would put a hundred-dollar bill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► under the tablecloth of someone's home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► on American hundred and so in the course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► of them cleaning their house they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► find this American hundred inexplicably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► in the middle of their home and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► knew not to take it because it was a it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► was a test it was a sign of hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► yeah in Cuba 20 years ago it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► life-changing amount of money at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► briefly but it was just like we are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► know we're in your home and not only are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► oh my gosh like we can prick and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► in your home and we are so in your home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1976">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► that we can leave this here and know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► that you won't touch it you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► you can touch it and see available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► yeah you would put your tablecloth back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► down and walk around knowing that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► was this enormous amount of money under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► the table cloth and you would just leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► it there until it was then gone most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► complicated but now they're in your head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► oh yeah he had a plan according to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► according to you know legend the Cuban [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► Secret Service of all the secret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:28 ◼ ► little bit less of the you know standing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2008">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► out in gorky park with a with the small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► like file folder that they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► not a file folder but you know they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► not they weren't human Secret Service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:41 ◼ ► wasn't rolling up a microfiche and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2021">TS</a>]
00:33:44 ◼ ► sticking it in cigarette filters they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2024">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► were mostly a they were an internal they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► were doing most of their work within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► Cuba and they were really inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► people's heads you know it sounds a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2034">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► little bit more like I mean I know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2036">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► Stasi had their very technical things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► that they did but that sounds like one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► of those you know in in sort of a on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► totalitarian regime especially if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► don't have the the money you want people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► to be policing themselves and you spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► a little bit to put the fear into them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► and then you don't have to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► right right well and this friend now i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► dont i I've started to worry because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► don't i don't want i never wanted to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► a one of those middle-aged people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► was repeating themselves all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► and ever since I started saying that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► said that yeah yeah yeah yeah ever since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► i've started taking my my my bipolar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► it has been reported to me that my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► memory has suffered a little bit no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► yeah but I don't remember it being that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► way before well it certainly wasn't i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► had a mind like a steel trap ensure and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► pretty sure I mean we did need it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► couple hundred programs where I repeated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:55 ◼ ► a couple of stories that generally i had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2095">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► a sense of what weather story been told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2097">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► well you're you're co-hosting with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► I mean cuz I i do find your story is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► very interesting and and I'm like it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► will often say to you I tried to qu as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► we say in the business if it is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► anecdote that I remember very clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:13 ◼ ► but you know you don't listen to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2113">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► show so you know how would you know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► i but but lately i have felt like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► have been a couple of instances where we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► talk merrily about a thing and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► response on the internet was I've heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► of course are our cabin marm yep says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► well that appeared in episode 18 episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► 940 you know like a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► feeling like oh gee I told that story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► and feels good I think we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► probably assume everybody's heard every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► episode yeah I might let my favorites of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:47 ◼ ► those are when someone says you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2147">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► john told that story before and then and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► then when he told the story again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► Merlin said exactly the same thing after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► which honestly does not surprise me at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2155">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► all well and I'm proud of the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2156">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► in most cases no one says that story was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► well that's see that's that's good so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► least you're still in it something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► yeah or or we got a full on David we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► like a you the the story changes a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► as it gets a retold well or just told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► over and over as though as the told as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► though we've never heard that he was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► oh yeah right but uh but you know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► part of that is to confirm two people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► that some of the fantastical stories are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► impossible to remember a lie i feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► that needs a little bit that there still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► are the occasional listeners who think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► that your stories maybe partly or fully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► fictional they are just that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► just stories actually that gets on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► skin a little bit but always drives me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► crazy this isn't as this isn't some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► stress isn't like one of those one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► those podcasts where people are talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2216">TS</a>]
00:37:00 ◼ ► hmm this is a this is a like it this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2220">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► true true stories podcast true tales [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► from the from the Wild West but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► this friend who went to Cuba who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:13 ◼ ► hundred-dollar bill he was telling that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2233">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► as a prelude to his story which was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► he was out in the far country and in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► group of people and he at their request [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► you know you have any kids yes i do here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► is a picture of my daughter he pulled a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► picture of his daughter out of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:29 ◼ ► wallet he started passing it around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2249">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► pictures daughter went around this room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► oh and as it was time to leave he said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► hey who's got that picture and everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► was like I don't have a night I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► happen and it was a finite number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► people in the room it wasn't like a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► event it was there 15-20 people there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► seriously it's time for me to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2275">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► where's my picture and everybody famed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2278">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► you know complete ignorance we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► know I don't know nobody nobody was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► last person to have seen the photo and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► you know in his escorts who he presumed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► were also secret agents or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:18 ◼ ► like time to go time to go and so he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2298">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► hustled into his van and taken off and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► never you know in the picture was gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► and he was you know he was hurt and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:28 ◼ ► insulted because everybody had been so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2308">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► friendly and a little vulnerable and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► that's that weird well six months later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► apartment one day the photograph appears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► he tells the story as though that's it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► lot of work that God's honest truth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► it does seem like a lot of work it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► like a lot of work to do to accomplish a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2336">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► very inscrutable goal or you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► obviously what they're saying is don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► fuck with the Cubans but he's not he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► back in seattle he's not fucking with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► the Cubans they may be saying don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► know be careful what you publish be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► careful what you say about Cuba whoa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► journalists got it but you know super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► spooky spooky action at a distance yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► literally and that you know when he told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► that story it was it was a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► chillin and I still you know he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► pretty trustworthy source and claim that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► would that was the one picture he would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► remember it it there's no way it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► have could have appeared by accident or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► happenstance it was that same picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► you know finger grubby with multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2397">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► fingers yeah and it's not like it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► the garbage men who are keeping a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► Polaroid album like somebody had to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► that put it into a file folder with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► guy's name and be able to call it up at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► a point later on I mean that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► that's an information that's a that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► knowledge management issue also mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► that there's a lot going on there a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► of moving parts that had to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► somewhere with his name on it and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► think one of the other messages was all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► the people in the room who were like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► shows the picture of your daughter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► they were all normal citizens they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► weren't spies they were just normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► people but someone in advance of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► trip there had gone around and said he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► going to be here and and you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► we expect or something mean there was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► was it was a casual enough exchange that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► it it made it feel like someone was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► improvising and it was oh you know here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► comes the picture I'm going to grab this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2457">TS</a>]
00:40:59 ◼ ► picture and everyone in the room is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2459">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► going to deny any knowledge of it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:03 ◼ ► it's just very deep and very dark a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2463">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► of confidence expressed their confidence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► that there that control is total train [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► so you know that's that's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► something that's that is a kind of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► like psychological control over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► environment to kind of gas lighting that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► I really inspired by now i know i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► thinking the same thing if you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► want to if you really want to mess with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► somebody here here's the thing this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► where falls apart for me like you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► have the wiring for this but I don't is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► I'm thinking about these stories you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► describing you know things have come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► over the years about like the odd things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► that on one hand the odd sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► missions successful or abortive that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:51 ◼ ► hear about and just that the tangle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2511">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► like seemingly complex methods that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2515">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► used to do something that seems very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► very strange and then cover up the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► that it happened because they're always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► saying it's you know you want to cover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► up the mission but that was that term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:09 ◼ ► there's you can also protect your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2529">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► methods and lightning obviously you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► don't want people to know if you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► a double agent someone with that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► term but you don't know if there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► somebody on the inside doing that but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► it just seems like you have to be wired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► a real weird certain way in order to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► able to pull that off in the end to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► think that it's that's effective as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► know what it's going to be an agent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► chaos like I understand like if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► operation part of your job is to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► make castro think he's crazy probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► yeah but like you know it seems like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► potentially you know every decision you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► make you've got to think about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► sacrificing and it you know the trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► to avoid talking about the Republican [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► candidate here but like unless you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► really sure what it is that your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► particular gambit is in service of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2574">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► know like what why would you risk it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2578">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► right guys you know if you're if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► running the Cuban Secret Service or what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► are the Cuban whatever the conversion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► the CIA is like I guess he just got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► I can't imagine well because it it begs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► the question it does Cuba have a secret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► office of agents in seattle washington [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► if so why and if not did they fly an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2598">TS</a>]
00:43:27 ◼ ► agent here to perform this weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2607">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► like we've we are watching you wear in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► your apartment mission or was there a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► Cuban secret agent who was in seattle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► for other business and they gave him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► this thing they said oh and by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► on friday afternoon when you're done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► with your other secret business run by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► this guy's house break-in and put that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► picture there just because we've got it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► back here at the Home Office we're still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► fucking with him like how I did that how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2635">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► yeah how did it how did it of all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► how did that make it to the top of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2645">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► anyone's pile and i see i see where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► could conceivably be it you know have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:16 ◼ ► that because it's clearly a threat right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2656">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► there I can see where they would feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► like they needed to make that threat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:21 ◼ ► right it's and it's a little bit of it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2661">TS</a>]
00:44:24 ◼ ► a little bit about the Ceausescu apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2664">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► in the pine trees where within a within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► a totalitarian closed circle he they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:36 ◼ ► become detest so detached from reality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2676">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► that completely insignificant things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► like that take on added importance to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► them because they don't you know and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► think at the time Cuba was still close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:51 ◼ ► to Americans large now and so my friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2691">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► was one of the few American journalists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► who added who were in Cuba in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2697">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► authorized way and maybe they had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► mental bandwidth to do this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► thing to the 50 American journalist that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► had come to Cuba that year you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► maybe it was a manageable number and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► opportunity to to put a hundred-dollar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► bill or their table cloth at some point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► just to let them know that that Cuba is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:22 ◼ ► watching its it with it because within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2722">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► totalitarian like thought loops who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► knows who knows what they have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► bandwidth for it maybe it maybe a jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► program I know like a wpa for spying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► there are army people everywhere they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► directing traffic there standing around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► in front of buildings they're opening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► doors for people there that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:55 ◼ ► they're out changing tires on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2755">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► highway there's army everywhere when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2756">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► think about it the people's the People's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► Republic has the largest army in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► world and what are those people doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► all day you know they can't just be on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:07 ◼ ► maneuvers right and so it is a jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2767">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► program the they just there's a a they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► have a million-man army and nine hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► thousand of them are out directing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:18 ◼ ► traffic so a form or more right i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2778">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► they are they're just sort of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► omnipresent and but they're also doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► stuff that needs that needs getting done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:32 ◼ ► and maybe that's true the the the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2792">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► Cuban Secret Service maybe they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► actually out like like sneaking around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► turning off people's drippy water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► faucets and stuff changing burned-out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► determined one time it is a self-help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► book about this called that is called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► paranoia and it's about the idea of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► notional idea of something that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► opposite of paranoia so paranoia is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► idea that forces are out to get you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► cause usually bad things for you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► paranoia is this kind of you admit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► sort of hippie idea like what if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► world is conspiring to make your life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► great and that's it i'm saying it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:16 ◼ ► be kind of fun you know if you have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2836">TS</a>]
00:47:18 ◼ ► resources to do something more like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2838">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► yeah it will be nice to have like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► secret government agency that just did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► nice things for you maybe they put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► nickel in here in your parking meter or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► something like that you know any maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:31 ◼ ► maybe they trim your hedge and anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2851">TS</a>]
00:47:33 ◼ ► that would be very and maybe in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2853">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► you hadn't even thought of a way they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:37 ◼ ► be very complimentary you know just ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2857">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► that could improve your life that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► come get me some Roman and the and some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► kind of like CIA edward scissorhands had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► created a topiary dinosaur in your front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► communicate to you that they that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► government had amazing powers and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2877">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► they were watching you at all times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► yeah like a mean if you're going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► creepy about it why not make it a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► for people is oh so you are you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► got a kid with the dairy allergy you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► arrive home and in the oven there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:10 ◼ ► there's a nice a dairy-free like a tuna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2890">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► casserole but it didn't use any dairy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► you know something like that where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► could use the information they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► about you and like in a nice way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► well and I imagine we have more that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► what's so hard about that right what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► would if you had a smoke detector that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:28 ◼ ► had been beeping for a year and a half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2908">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► but it was way way up like up in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► vaulted ceiling you didn't have a ladder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► and you couldn't get there and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:37 ◼ ► couldn't even remember why you thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2917">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► it was a good idea to play smoke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► detector there and it had driven you all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► crazy and then one day you came home and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► it wasn't beeping anymore but you looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:47 ◼ ► up and saw the light on and you realized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2927">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► someone had changed the batteries it had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► it had to be somebody would be inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:55 ◼ ► your head you would be like what is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2935">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► oh gosh but it was also very nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► gestures never have a proactive positive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► gaslighting yeah yeah I mean that again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► seems to fall under the rubric of Elon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► haha he knows Elon Musk in this he's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► mhm I had a guy i was at a cocktail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► Elon Musk came up ok I said yeah you on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► muskets kind of a he's kind of amused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:27 ◼ ► for me I I think about him as-as-as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2967">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► as a sort of the idea of the the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► Platonic idea of the of the modern tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► billionaire and oh and went around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► room and everybody in that cocktail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► party agreed that Elon Musk was doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:45 ◼ ► two amazing things and then one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2985">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► people at the cocktail party expressed a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► contribution which was that he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► sinister figure and that there was this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:57 ◼ ► Elon Musk worship happening in the in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/2997">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► endless the the person saying this was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:05 ◼ ► scope person ok something's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3005">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► insider little bit inside or just being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:10 ◼ ► in san francisco in the tech world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3010">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► they're feeling a little bit inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► they've been to a cocktail party with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► the Elon Musk was there have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► yeah and and it then then everybody in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► the room kind of had to defend their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► admiration for elon musk a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► you know to say like oh no wait and only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:30 ◼ ► yeah yeah wait a minute will you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3030">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► this is what i was saying and it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► know and then it was my turn and I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3034">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► you know I'm not saying Ilan himself but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► yeah right the Platonic idea like our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► billionaires who are not building their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► own vaguely sinister space exploration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► programs who are not planning to build a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► hyper space train that goes from LA to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3053">TS</a>]
00:50:56 ◼ ► San Francisco but those billionaires are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3056">TS</a>]
00:51:00 ◼ ► why are those billionaires not doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3060">TS</a>]
00:51:02 ◼ ► that if I were a billionaire I would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► doing some crazy shit like that and of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:06 ◼ ► course would look sinister yeah i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3066">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► if i were a billionaire and I was hiring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► a secret army to go around and change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► everybody's the batteries and everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► smoke detector people would say what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► fuck is this guy doing alright I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► you would do solar probably solar right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:20 ◼ ► keep changing this will be a solar smoke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3080">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► detector but you know I got off of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► airplane a couple of days ago and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3084">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► turned my uber app on and every time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► do I'm like I hate this company but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► know but also they do a much better job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► yeah every time I think I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► protest super and I call a yellow cab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:40 ◼ ► I have an experience that sends me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3100">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► screaming back to burr and I know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► there i know that we have a small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► contingent of London taxi drivers that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► listen to our program that thang [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:52 ◼ ► conditions that is yeah that anytime I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3112">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► disparagingly about about the hack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3116">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► yeah he is this the the London taxi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:03 ◼ ► drivers union of podcast listeners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3123">TS</a>]
00:52:06 ◼ ► responds very aggressively and to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3126">TS</a>]
00:52:16 ◼ ► that are how that are a an utterly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3136">TS</a>]
00:52:19 ◼ ► different class of people that have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3139">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► pass rigorous exams and they have a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:24 ◼ ► of institutional pride that is not true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3144">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► of yellow cab drivers in seattle in LA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► right so I pull out my uber app i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► walking to the airport in the good clip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► here and and then the the app reports to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:39 ◼ ► mean with a pop-up screen we would like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3159">TS</a>]
00:52:45 ◼ ► prior to us picking you up and after us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3165">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► we would like we would like unlimited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► discretion so right now we're claiming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3177">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► that we're going to we're going to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► at your location up to five minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:04 ◼ ► after we drop you off to see where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3184">TS</a>]
00:53:06 ◼ ► you're actually going so we know whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3186">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► we're doing a good enough job of getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► huh but that's that's at our discretion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► because what we're really asking for is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► permanent where we want you to go into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► the app and give us permanent location [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► option known and then they say you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► click yes or no or or a click yes or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► now I guess something like that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► suggests that this is optional for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3213">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► and so I was of course was like no not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:40 ◼ ► now let's give me the most no answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3220">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► that I give and I study of that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:45 ◼ ► still be able to get arrived right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3225">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► that's anything that you got your you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► have something to do you have stopped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► because I'm I'm like you're already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► you're already biting into my time of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► normal plan to have the driver waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3236">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► for me when I walk out the door and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3238">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► then the app says oh ok if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► want to let us use our location services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► which we've never had to do before we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► now require that you manually type in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► we're no longer going to give you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► functionality of the the way the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► used to store where you regularly when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► yeah their hands are tied and now you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3262">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► and write down the address where you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:28 ◼ ► going and send it you know send a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3268">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► scented letter by the bike carrier hawk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► and I'm like I'm like listen I'm two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► minutes from the door now you've taken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► seven minutes of my precious time with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:42 ◼ ► this war shit and and it's because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► are because here another one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► tech companies that's decided that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► information should belong to you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:53 ◼ ► that's your the mean in fact maybe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3293">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► whole idea of Hooper has been a ruse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3295">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► just to eventually get us all into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3298">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► position where you can collect our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:04 ◼ ► locations constantly be be a apprised of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3304">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► our location is a very interesting idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► you sons of bitches now and so now what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► is I mean what if I mean you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:17 ◼ ► uber of five years ago you wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3317">TS</a>]
00:55:19 ◼ ► assume they'd say okay this is obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3319">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► a replacement for taxis that's what this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► mm but they do a lot of stuff that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:27 ◼ ► you wonder what they're really up to and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3327">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► it might seem like they're not sure it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► seems like they have some idea what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► they're trying to do is we don't we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:35 ◼ ► yeah it seems like unlike a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3335">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► companies who hire lawyers to make sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► that the company is in compliance with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:41 ◼ ► some of these tech companies hire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3341">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► lawyers with the full knowledge that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► they intend to break the law and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► their lawyers are trying to help them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► break the law in the most efficient way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► possible knowing that they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:54 ◼ ► be sued you know covering their tracks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3354">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► like the lawyers are in service of not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3356">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► of like protecting the law or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► consumer but what of protecting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► company i mean i guess that's been true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:07 ◼ ► oil company lawyers and tobacco lawyers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3367">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► but but there's something a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:12 ◼ ► continuous access to your location and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3372">TS</a>]
00:56:15 ◼ ► it suggests that there's a minority [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3375">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► report future where uber is selling that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► information so that when you walk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:22 ◼ ► through a mall the billboards can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3382">TS</a>]
00:56:26 ◼ ► yeah but in ad but anyway so then I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3386">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► now I've stopped right I'm no longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► moving through the area networks was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► totally disrupted right I had to stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► how to put on the brakes dig my heels in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► he be now I'm standing there thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► about what I'm gonna do for your back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:45 ◼ ► and enjoy your back into a cold second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3405">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► display them i am trying to figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► am I going to submit to this indignity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► in order to use this thing that i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► found to be more functional than other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:57 ◼ ► systems or am I going to make a Pyrrhic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3417">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► stand a mi Sisyphus here am I the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:06 ◼ ► that is going to insist on a body pat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3426">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► down going through TSA rather than go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:10 ◼ ► through there a particle accelerator and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3430">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► I'm like okay / you know i do that thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► he'll attaches itself is yeah okay over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► and i go and i turn on my location [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► services and then everything the app is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► happy everybody's back to normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:28 ◼ ► okay great and then all of a sudden it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3448">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► doesn't recognize but the credit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:33 ◼ ► information that i put in so now I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3453">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► stopped again what to go through this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► thing basically just to restart the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► and then attract then it remembers my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► credit card ok so a little bit of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► hundred-dollar bill under the tablecloth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► thing where it said you know remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► when you initially click know what we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► going to forget your credit card for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:52 ◼ ► couple of minutes that'll teach you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3472">TS</a>]
00:57:56 ◼ ► mhm and so it's like so by then by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3476">TS</a>]
00:57:59 ◼ ► time the app actually remembers your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3479">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► credit card and works i'm fucking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:02 ◼ ► grateful I'm like thank you / app don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3482">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► leave me stranded here and then they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► like and the driver will be there in 16 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► minutes the longest I've ever the 16 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► well interesting right just a double [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► little like kicking the creek in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► uh-huh and then final indignity driver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:22 ◼ ► arrives first time in many many years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3502">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► getting a car from from LAX driver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:29 ◼ ► didn't speak English at all he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3509">TS</a>]
00:58:31 ◼ ► Armenian or something and I asked him a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3511">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► question and he gave me an unanswered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:36 ◼ ► that was not an answer to the question i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3516">TS</a>]
00:58:40 ◼ ► not even in the ballpark and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3520">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► realized he didn't that was it was he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► answered the question that way because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► those were the English words in you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► accept this is my proa is not on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► no no I'm feeling like they are you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► at that point when i click no I i got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► shunted over onto the couch in the good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/3536">TS</a>]
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01:06:58 ◼ ► help i'm walking through like I want him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4018">TS</a>]
01:07:03 ◼ ► to have to work a little bit harder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4023">TS</a>]
01:07:05 ◼ ► because I don't think he's using his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4025">TS</a>]
01:07:07 ◼ ► money in the creative but well yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4027">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► mean one thing about this is that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:12 ◼ ► think about the way most historically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4032">TS</a>]
01:07:16 ◼ ► it feels like the most products get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4036">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► somewhere out there the is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:24 ◼ ► something out there where there's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4044">TS</a>]
01:07:25 ◼ ► opportunity that meets a few criteria [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4045">TS</a>]
01:07:26 ◼ ► the criteria of is there i guess the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:32 ◼ ► sweet spot would be sorry I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4052">TS</a>]
01:07:33 ◼ ► thinking out loud here but but is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4053">TS</a>]
01:07:35 ◼ ► a sweet spot where there is a need on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4055">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► the one hand so whenever one is there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4058">TS</a>]
01:07:40 ◼ ► a need for something that is number two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4060">TS</a>]
01:07:42 ◼ ► not currently being serviced number 34 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4062">TS</a>]
01:07:48 ◼ ► ideally pay a lot for it and I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4068">TS</a>]
01:07:50 ◼ ► maybe importantly but where we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4070">TS</a>]
01:07:53 ◼ ► unique sources to create a barrier to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4073">TS</a>]
01:07:57 ◼ ► entry right so you want to distract and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4077">TS</a>]
01:08:00 ◼ ► they're going to say hey look you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4080">TS</a>]
01:08:01 ◼ ► if your job is like that somebody on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4081">TS</a>]
01:08:03 ◼ ► recently who like send your kid letters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4083">TS</a>]
01:08:05 ◼ ► from Santa and you know it's like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4085">TS</a>]
01:08:09 ◼ ► that's not you know you can't protect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4089">TS</a>]
01:08:12 ◼ ► that idea and like anybody could do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4092">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► but like in that case you're looking so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:17 ◼ ► historically say well you know in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4097">TS</a>]
01:08:19 ◼ ► case of uber that makes a lot of sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4099">TS</a>]
01:08:21 ◼ ► because and you know I realize this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4101">TS</a>]
01:08:23 ◼ ► not a particularly sympathetic point of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4103">TS</a>]
01:08:25 ◼ ► view but just to underscore what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4105">TS</a>]
01:08:26 ◼ ► said you know getting taxes in San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4106">TS</a>]
01:08:31 ◼ ► and not just a source of frustration but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4111">TS</a>]
01:08:35 ◼ ► like it's a joke it's a joke how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4115">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► unless it happens to be going by because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:42 ◼ ► historically the way would work if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4122">TS</a>]
01:08:43 ◼ ► call a taxi dispatcher who represents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4123">TS</a>]
01:08:45 ◼ ► one or more of these independent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4125">TS</a>]
01:08:47 ◼ ► companies and they send a little ping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4127">TS</a>]
01:08:49 ◼ ► one thing only and so a guy says hey do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4129">TS</a>]
01:08:53 ◼ ► you want to drive for miles across town [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4133">TS</a>]
01:08:56 ◼ ► to go pick up this person and take them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4136">TS</a>]
01:08:58 ◼ ► wherever they might say yes but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4138">TS</a>]
01:09:01 ◼ ► thing is if half a block later they pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4141">TS</a>]
01:09:03 ◼ ► up another fair you're out of luck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4143">TS</a>]
01:09:06 ◼ ► they may not report that they've done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4146">TS</a>]
01:09:08 ◼ ► that and so it can take it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4148">TS</a>]
01:09:11 ◼ ► frequently take us 12 in infinite hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4151">TS</a>]
01:09:13 ◼ ► to get a taxi there's a lot of date [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4153">TS</a>]
01:09:15 ◼ ► nights where we sat on the front steps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4155">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► what we couldn't get a taxi for 1230 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:21 ◼ ► hours so getting me know that that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4161">TS</a>]
01:09:23 ◼ ► mean like you know we will live out in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4163">TS</a>]
01:09:25 ◼ ► the boonies as far as San Francisco's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4165">TS</a>]
01:09:26 ◼ ► concern so unless you got somebody was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4166">TS</a>]
01:09:28 ◼ ► coming back from the airport already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4168">TS</a>]
01:09:30 ◼ ► happened to be out in our neighborhood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4170">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► anyway I'm trying to say is that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:33 ◼ ► you understand that you go like okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4173">TS</a>]
01:09:35 ◼ ► there's this company does this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4175">TS</a>]
01:09:36 ◼ ► initially it's going to be mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4176">TS</a>]
01:09:38 ◼ ► limousine type things that's what it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4178">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► at first and then we went to private [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:41 ◼ ► cars which seemed a little bit weird but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4181">TS</a>]
01:09:43 ◼ ► all through that you could still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4183">TS</a>]
01:09:45 ◼ ► regardless of what you thought of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4185">TS</a>]
01:09:46 ◼ ► company you can look at it and go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4186">TS</a>]
01:09:48 ◼ ► this makes sense this is a classic model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4188">TS</a>]
01:09:51 ◼ ► of disruption in some ways anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4191">TS</a>]
01:09:53 ◼ ► skipping over some of the like weirdness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4193">TS</a>]
01:09:55 ◼ ► and unpleasant pleasantries but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4195">TS</a>]
01:09:57 ◼ ► then you eventually get to wear like now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4197">TS</a>]
01:09:58 ◼ ► the app wants to follow where you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4198">TS</a>]
01:10:01 ◼ ► you're like well how does that how does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4201">TS</a>]
01:10:03 ◼ ► that play in to the narrative on the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4203">TS</a>]
01:10:07 ◼ ► hand it's sensible because why because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4207">TS</a>]
01:10:10 ◼ ► you know well this used to be about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4210">TS</a>]
01:10:13 ◼ ► something different which is like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4213">TS</a>]
01:10:15 ◼ ► want to figure out what patterns of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4215">TS</a>]
01:10:16 ◼ ► movement are let's even say at a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4216">TS</a>]
01:10:18 ◼ ► high level we want high we want to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4218">TS</a>]
01:10:20 ◼ ► a high level of understanding that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4220">TS</a>]
01:10:22 ◼ ► in this city at this time of day people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4222">TS</a>]
01:10:25 ◼ ► from this neighborhood tend to go from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4225">TS</a>]
01:10:26 ◼ ► residence to a certain kind of business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4226">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► if you don't mean if they've got a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:31 ◼ ► data that shows certain kinds of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4231">TS</a>]
01:10:32 ◼ ► about that you can allocate resources [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4232">TS</a>]
01:10:34 ◼ ► like on that you know that's that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4234">TS</a>]
01:10:36 ◼ ► classic example of how you would use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4236">TS</a>]
01:10:38 ◼ ► that data sure but like but then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4238">TS</a>]
01:10:40 ◼ ► can't help but think but yet what do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4240">TS</a>]
01:10:43 ◼ ► data and why do you need 25 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4243">TS</a>]
01:10:46 ◼ ► after it's like what is what is the play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4246">TS</a>]
01:10:48 ◼ ► for a company that is doing that and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4248">TS</a>]
01:10:51 ◼ ► in the same way that you know faceboook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4251">TS</a>]
01:10:53 ◼ ► i don't know i'm starting a pundit but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4253">TS</a>]
01:10:56 ◼ ► do think it's an intriguing you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4256">TS</a>]
01:10:59 ◼ ► thought experiment to wonder like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4259">TS</a>]
01:11:01 ◼ ► is the big play here because we want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4261">TS</a>]
01:11:03 ◼ ► we've all seen you've all seen that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4263">TS</a>]
01:11:06 ◼ ► we're talking to our friends via email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4266">TS</a>]
01:11:09 ◼ ► saying like what are we going to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4269">TS</a>]
01:11:11 ◼ ► together for eggs like we have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4271">TS</a>]
01:11:16 ◼ ► me and my friends the young dads club we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4276">TS</a>]
01:11:19 ◼ ► get together we all get eggs when we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4279">TS</a>]
01:11:20 ◼ ► Meg's you guys I don't know let's get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4280">TS</a>]
01:11:22 ◼ ► some eggs yeah lets you know when her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4282">TS</a>]
01:11:24 ◼ ► wounds are egg experience and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4284">TS</a>]
01:11:26 ◼ ► next time you log in to anything over on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4286">TS</a>]
01:11:30 ◼ ► the side there's an advertisement that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4290">TS</a>]
01:11:31 ◼ ► says want some eggs like gangs come to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4291">TS</a>]
01:11:34 ◼ ► Bill's egg bill and you're like that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4294">TS</a>]
01:11:38 ◼ ► creeping the shit out like what I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4298">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► not I was not on facebook liking eggs i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:45 ◼ ► was in a private email conversation with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4305">TS</a>]
01:11:46 ◼ ► my friends about going to get eggs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4306">TS</a>]
01:11:48 ◼ ► you your algorithm has mistaken what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:51 ◼ ► what we were saying we were just using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4311">TS</a>]
01:11:56 ◼ ► that's a pretty it's everything I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4316">TS</a>]
01:11:57 ◼ ► it's creepy and it's a pretty blunt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4317">TS</a>]
01:12:00 ◼ ► yeah right so uber you know at yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4320">TS</a>]
01:12:02 ◼ ► agree with you that their premise is at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4322">TS</a>]
01:12:06 ◼ ► this super-high level we are making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4326">TS</a>]
01:12:09 ◼ ► models of of human movement to the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4329">TS</a>]
01:12:13 ◼ ► that we can see that all of human life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4333">TS</a>]
01:12:15 ◼ ► is just a giant anthill and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4335">TS</a>]
01:12:19 ◼ ► the city any city that has changeable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4339">TS</a>]
01:12:24 ◼ ► oh my god the garbage truck is out front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4344">TS</a>]
01:12:25 ◼ ► oh my god hello garbage truck and he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4345">TS</a>]
01:12:29 ◼ ► squeaky hydraulic brakes see they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4349">TS</a>]
01:12:31 ◼ ► doing they were listening to the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4351">TS</a>]
01:12:32 ◼ ► they're probably listening that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4352">TS</a>]
01:12:34 ◼ ► prob well that's why the skyscape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4354">TS</a>]
01:12:36 ◼ ► yeah probably listening in and finding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4356">TS</a>]
01:12:38 ◼ ► out if you were talking about garbage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4358">TS</a>]
01:12:39 ◼ ► and that garbage truck was a clean air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4359">TS</a>]
01:12:42 ◼ ► vehicle so it was running on on like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4362">TS</a>]
01:12:45 ◼ ► fumes but but uh yeah right the the any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4365">TS</a>]
01:12:49 ◼ ► city that has changeable express lanes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4369">TS</a>]
01:12:51 ◼ ► where the express lane is heading one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4371">TS</a>]
01:12:52 ◼ ► way in the morning and then it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4372">TS</a>]
01:12:55 ◼ ► the afternoon i have read in my in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4375">TS</a>]
01:13:00 ◼ ► research about city systems i have read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4380">TS</a>]
01:13:03 ◼ ► multiple times people riding in to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4383">TS</a>]
01:13:06 ◼ ► city saying look I know that express [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4386">TS</a>]
01:13:09 ◼ ► lanes are moving out of the city in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4389">TS</a>]
01:13:11 ◼ ► afternoon and into the city in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4391">TS</a>]
01:13:13 ◼ ► morning but on the night of the big big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4393">TS</a>]
01:13:17 ◼ ► football game when there's also a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4397">TS</a>]
01:13:20 ◼ ► big baseball game now with it hadn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4400">TS</a>]
01:13:22 ◼ ► accounted for something slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4402">TS</a>]
01:13:26 ◼ ► acknowledge that at at that point in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4406">TS</a>]
01:13:29 ◼ ► time because the football and baseball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4409">TS</a>]
01:13:31 ◼ ► traffic is backed up all the way to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4411">TS</a>]
01:13:36 ◼ ► difference and change on that particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4416">TS</a>]
01:13:39 ◼ ► day the direction of them of the traffic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4419">TS</a>]
01:13:43 ◼ ► and the city replies even accounting for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4423">TS</a>]
01:13:48 ◼ ► the large large number of sports people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4428">TS</a>]
01:13:52 ◼ ► that are coming to the city still there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4432">TS</a>]
01:13:54 ◼ ► is more traffic headed out of the city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4434">TS</a>]
01:13:56 ◼ ► then there is coming in turns out and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4436">TS</a>]
01:14:01 ◼ ► it would make it would make no sense to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4441">TS</a>]
01:14:04 ◼ ► change the express lanes because because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4444">TS</a>]
01:14:07 ◼ ► in the afternoons that's the direction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4447">TS</a>]
01:14:09 ◼ ► people are moving a lot more people than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4449">TS</a>]
01:14:10 ◼ ► the than the paltry hundred thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4450">TS</a>]
01:14:13 ◼ ► people that are all converging on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4453">TS</a>]
01:14:14 ◼ ► sports game at the same moment ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4454">TS</a>]
01:14:17 ◼ ► alright and so that's an example of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4457">TS</a>]
01:14:20 ◼ ► obviously the city has been spending a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4460">TS</a>]
01:14:22 ◼ ► lot of time collecting that information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4462">TS</a>]
01:14:24 ◼ ► and they know who's moving where and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4464">TS</a>]
01:14:26 ◼ ► what they're doing and they're making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4466">TS</a>]
01:14:28 ◼ ► the this kind of decision of with a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4468">TS</a>]
01:14:30 ◼ ► of confidence and when i when i read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4470">TS</a>]
01:14:34 ◼ ► that which was a couple of years ago it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4474">TS</a>]
01:14:37 ◼ ► made me really really want to go to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4477">TS</a>]
01:14:41 ◼ ► in the city where they're all sitting in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4481">TS</a>]
01:14:43 ◼ ► a giant map is sitting in a dark room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4483">TS</a>]
01:14:45 ◼ ► listening to the whopper go what will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4485">TS</a>]
01:14:48 ◼ ► pop up as it calculates every car on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4488">TS</a>]
01:14:52 ◼ ► road and all the the crazy traffic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4492">TS</a>]
01:14:55 ◼ ► signals that are doing things that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4495">TS</a>]
01:14:57 ◼ ► do not you cannot understand why you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4497">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► talking about Heisenberg I mean we think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4501">TS</a>]
01:15:02 ◼ ► about like you know for example if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4502">TS</a>]
01:15:04 ◼ ► you've ever gone nothing replica you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4504">TS</a>]
01:15:05 ◼ ► going down like a cell or was it oak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4505">TS</a>]
01:15:11 ◼ ► like if you're going down the Panhandle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4511">TS</a>]
01:15:13 ◼ ► basically east or west and those lights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4513">TS</a>]
01:15:15 ◼ ► are time to certain way you know saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4515">TS</a>]
01:15:18 ◼ ► so yeah you're changing the timing on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4518">TS</a>]
01:15:19 ◼ ► bunch of lights like that's that seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4519">TS</a>]
01:15:21 ◼ ► like not quantum crazy but like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4521">TS</a>]
01:15:24 ◼ ► could be so many unintended consequences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4524">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► of trying to social engineer that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:28 ◼ ► not getting exactly right for certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4528">TS</a>]
01:15:30 ◼ ► ways that could go wrong you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4530">TS</a>]
01:15:32 ◼ ► there's an accident or something and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4532">TS</a>]
01:15:33 ◼ ► that that intentionally throws this off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4533">TS</a>]
01:15:35 ◼ ► in a way that's not helpful at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4535">TS</a>]
01:15:37 ◼ ► well one of the most confusing things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4537">TS</a>]
01:15:39 ◼ ► for me is you know I Drive past Boeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4539">TS</a>]
01:15:42 ◼ ► airport goings-on private Airport in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4542">TS</a>]
01:15:45 ◼ ► Seattle uh multiple times a week and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4545">TS</a>]
01:15:49 ◼ ► boeing has its own traffic lights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4549">TS</a>]
01:15:56 ◼ ► well know what they've done is they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4556">TS</a>]
01:15:58 ◼ ► bowing right and so they have a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4558">TS</a>]
01:16:00 ◼ ► leverage and so what boeing has done is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4560">TS</a>]
01:16:04 ◼ ► there on this strip there are a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4564">TS</a>]
01:16:07 ◼ ► manufacturing and smoothing out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4567">TS</a>]
01:16:10 ◼ ► wrinkles on their Boeing aircraft yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4570">TS</a>]
01:16:12 ◼ ► and some at some times of day these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4572">TS</a>]
01:16:22 ◼ ► Engineers all at the same moment and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4582">TS</a>]
01:16:25 ◼ ► you've ever been somewhere where there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4585">TS</a>]
01:16:26 ◼ ► where anything is disgorging thousands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4586">TS</a>]
01:16:29 ◼ ► of Engineers and i know you have no I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4589">TS</a>]
01:16:31 ◼ ► that's that's the thing that needs its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4591">TS</a>]
01:16:33 ◼ ► own traffic light right right and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4593">TS</a>]
01:16:36 ◼ ► there are about five locations on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4596">TS</a>]
01:16:38 ◼ ► long 10 mile road that a 10-mile mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4598">TS</a>]
01:16:42 ◼ ► strictly straight road where there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4602">TS</a>]
01:16:45 ◼ ► traffic lights that make no sense at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4605">TS</a>]
01:16:47 ◼ ► unless you are someone who is in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4607">TS</a>]
01:16:53 ◼ ► who's just gotten off work and there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4613">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► four thousand other engineers all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4614">TS</a>]
01:16:57 ◼ ► ok and so here are these traffic lights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4617">TS</a>]
01:16:59 ◼ ► and they offend me of course because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4619">TS</a>]
01:17:01 ◼ ► there's no reason for that except to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4621">TS</a>]
01:17:03 ◼ ► benefit this one this one situation that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4623">TS</a>]
01:17:06 ◼ ► was three times a day but insanely these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4626">TS</a>]
01:17:11 ◼ ► traffic lights also trigger at two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4631">TS</a>]
01:17:17 ◼ ► oh that drives you crazy so you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4637">TS</a>]
01:17:20 ◼ ► driving Alex's dad with a stop sign but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4640">TS</a>]
01:17:22 ◼ ► with a light that is that's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4642">TS</a>]
01:17:23 ◼ ► presumptuous right and every time one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4643">TS</a>]
01:17:27 ◼ ► yeah it also then stays red for five or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4647">TS</a>]
01:17:31 ◼ ► six minutes as though a thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4651">TS</a>]
01:17:34 ◼ ► engineers in there like carefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4654">TS</a>]
01:17:37 ◼ ► maintained Chrysler K cars as if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4657">TS</a>]
01:17:42 ◼ ► just pouring out of this parking lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4662">TS</a>]
01:17:44 ◼ ► right he's sitting there honor you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4664">TS</a>]
01:17:46 ◼ ► in a in a giant four-lane highway next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4666">TS</a>]
01:17:49 ◼ ► to a next to you know obviously a jewel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4669">TS</a>]
01:17:52 ◼ ► in the crown level airport just sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4672">TS</a>]
01:17:56 ◼ ► at this light like it like a total well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4676">TS</a>]
01:17:58 ◼ ► like cock lets me an entitlement wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4678">TS</a>]
01:18:01 ◼ ► gonna say yeah let's let's let's speak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:04 ◼ ► in New speak for a second and say what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4684">TS</a>]
01:18:07 ◼ ► you really are and so for many years now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4687">TS</a>]
01:18:10 ◼ ► i will stop at that light to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4690">TS</a>]
01:18:12 ◼ ► disgustedly but I look both ways and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4692">TS</a>]
01:18:15 ◼ ► i'll make it make an independent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4695">TS</a>]
01:18:17 ◼ ► decision that I'm not going to sit out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4697">TS</a>]
01:18:18 ◼ ► here in the dark waiting for this fake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4698">TS</a>]
01:18:22 ◼ ► understand is how it is that that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4702">TS</a>]
01:18:26 ◼ ► thing is in program to stay green at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4706">TS</a>]
01:18:29 ◼ ► times until you know until 4 45 and a 4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4709">TS</a>]
01:18:34 ◼ ► 45 p.m. and then you realize oh this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4714">TS</a>]
01:18:37 ◼ ► just a system of command and control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4717">TS</a>]
01:18:39 ◼ ► they just want to stop you out here to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4719">TS</a>]
01:18:42 ◼ ► see if they can they want to stop you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4722">TS</a>]
01:18:44 ◼ ► out here just to remind you they can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4724">TS</a>]
01:18:48 ◼ ► take it that's not your hundred-dollar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4728">TS</a>]
01:18:50 ◼ ► bill and it's another example again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4730">TS</a>]
01:18:54 ◼ ► you know what your traffic light means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4734">TS</a>]
01:18:56 ◼ ► to me I'll stop I'll do the courtesy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4736">TS</a>]
01:18:58 ◼ ► stop I'm gonna treat this stop sign like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4738">TS</a>]
01:19:02 ◼ ► yeah now who knows that's making it into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4742">TS</a>]
01:19:07 ◼ ► yeah no no I know the garbage man might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4747">TS</a>]
01:19:09 ◼ ► be picking that up right now with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4749">TS</a>]
01:19:10 ◼ ► spooky action right any any amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4750">TS</a>]
01:19:14 ◼ ► this kind of civic disobedience may have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4754">TS</a>]
01:19:18 ◼ ► repercussions I may not you know I'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4758">TS</a>]
01:19:20 ◼ ► log onto facebook and be reading you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4760">TS</a>]
01:19:24 ◼ ► know reading my friends accounts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4764">TS</a>]
01:19:26 ◼ ► their recent surgery and some banner ad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4766">TS</a>]
01:19:30 ◼ ► will say don't like stopping at stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4770">TS</a>]
01:19:32 ◼ ► lights maybe you should try checking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4772">TS</a>]
01:19:35 ◼ ► yourself before you wreck yourself or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4775">TS</a>]
01:19:38 ◼ ► maybe next time we stopped to let you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4778">TS</a>]
01:19:39 ◼ ► get a pan add four eggs right yeah like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4779">TS</a>]
01:19:42 ◼ ► it just pops up on my phone now speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4782">TS</a>]
01:19:44 ◼ ► of which I don't usually look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4784">TS</a>]
01:19:46 ◼ ► internet one talking to you because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4786">TS</a>]
01:19:48 ◼ ► don't think it takes it takes my full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4788">TS</a>]
01:19:51 ◼ ► yeah but because I'm getting on a plane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4791">TS</a>]
01:19:54 ◼ ► this afternoon i just checked my email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4794">TS</a>]
01:19:56 ◼ ► real fast to make sure that they weren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4796">TS</a>]
01:19:58 ◼ ► telling me that they spilled a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4798">TS</a>]
01:19:59 ◼ ► gas on the tarmac and I get to emails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4799">TS</a>]
01:20:03 ◼ ► back-to-back first one is from virgin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4803">TS</a>]
01:20:07 ◼ ► america an airline that recently spilled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4807">TS</a>]
01:20:10 ◼ ► a cup of coffee on me huh is it about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4810">TS</a>]
01:20:14 ◼ ► how you get extra reward points with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4814">TS</a>]
01:20:18 ◼ ► yeah I just got the same one we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4818">TS</a>]
01:20:19 ◼ ► some exciting news about virgin airlines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4819">TS</a>]
01:20:21 ◼ ► integration with alaska airlines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4821">TS</a>]
01:20:23 ◼ ► starting today elevate members can now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4823">TS</a>]
01:20:25 ◼ ► earn points when flying Onalaska well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4825">TS</a>]
01:20:28 ◼ ► isn't that fascinating and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4828">TS</a>]
01:20:33 ◼ ► both my elevate frequent flyer number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4833">TS</a>]
01:20:36 ◼ ► and my Alaska frequent flyer about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4836">TS</a>]
01:20:39 ◼ ► so I'm like look at that you guys are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4839">TS</a>]
01:20:41 ◼ ► already you're not making me go into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4841">TS</a>]
01:20:43 ◼ ► you know into your web service to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4843">TS</a>]
01:20:46 ◼ ► and figure this out you've got the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4846">TS</a>]
01:20:49 ◼ ► the very next email in my inbox is from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4849">TS</a>]
01:20:52 ◼ ► Delta Airlines Delta says and a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4852">TS</a>]
01:20:56 ◼ ► letters in the pin the headline our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4856">TS</a>]
01:20:57 ◼ ► partnership with alaska airlines is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4857">TS</a>]
01:21:00 ◼ ► ending haha boy Delta in Alaska together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4860">TS</a>]
01:21:06 ◼ ► our partnership this is a positive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4866">TS</a>]
01:21:08 ◼ ► milestone for both airlines as Alaska [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4868">TS</a>]
01:21:10 ◼ ► focuses on its merger with virgin and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4870">TS</a>]
01:21:13 ◼ ► Delta this is the kicker line here Delta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4873">TS</a>]
01:21:17 ◼ ► focuses on expanding service from seatac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4877">TS</a>]
01:21:20 ◼ ► which is not coincidentally alaska [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4880">TS</a>]
01:21:24 ◼ ► airlines is hub so Delta is Delta and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4884">TS</a>]
01:21:29 ◼ ► Alaska now we're going to war with one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4889">TS</a>]
01:21:31 ◼ ► another we formed support for seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4891">TS</a>]
01:21:33 ◼ ► this for a couple years those of us who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4893">TS</a>]
01:21:37 ◼ ► travel from seatac the writings been on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4897">TS</a>]
01:21:39 ◼ ► the wall how has it has it out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4899">TS</a>]
01:21:42 ◼ ► feeling that the at the bigger army [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4902">TS</a>]
01:21:44 ◼ ► diplomacy because they also got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4904">TS</a>]
01:21:45 ◼ ► United now right busy night apart Delta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4905">TS</a>]
01:21:48 ◼ ► oh is that right who is it who is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4908">TS</a>]
01:21:51 ◼ ► then no that's not right united in who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4911">TS</a>]
01:21:54 ◼ ► usurpation of one airline not too long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4914">TS</a>]
01:21:57 ◼ ► ago and probably what United United of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4917">TS</a>]
01:22:00 ◼ ► course is my sworn enemy right now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4920">TS</a>]
01:22:03 ◼ ► yeah but but anyway big big big news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4923">TS</a>]
01:22:07 ◼ ► right here right after each other one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4927">TS</a>]
01:22:10 ◼ ► yeah now now what am I gonna do now how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4930">TS</a>]
01:22:13 ◼ ► am I going to manage my frequent flyer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4933">TS</a>]
01:22:15 ◼ ► our good friend jason has been trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4935">TS</a>]
01:22:17 ◼ ► get me to be a gold member for a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4937">TS</a>]
01:22:19 ◼ ► mm that's his nickname of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4939">TS</a>]
01:22:24 ◼ ► and-and-and-and every attempt i make i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4944">TS</a>]
01:22:28 ◼ ► just get awarded get toward imported [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4948">TS</a>]
01:22:30 ◼ ► everything look at that face on the tail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4950">TS</a>]
01:22:34 ◼ ► i always see it looks like Brezhnev such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4954">TS</a>]
01:22:35 ◼ ► as me invisible bridge Navy when I was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4955">TS</a>]
01:22:39 ◼ ► kid the letter Y Z alaska airlines logo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4959">TS</a>]
01:22:43 ◼ ► guy they have the logo guy on the on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4963">TS</a>]
01:22:47 ◼ ► the tale of alaska airlines planes had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4967">TS</a>]
01:22:50 ◼ ► multiple figures on that there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4970">TS</a>]
01:22:52 ◼ ► there was a totem pole there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4972">TS</a>]
01:22:56 ◼ ► little eskimo girl there there were a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4976">TS</a>]
01:22:59 ◼ ► lot of things there wasn't one symbol [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4979">TS</a>]
01:23:03 ◼ ► and over time they phased out all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4983">TS</a>]
01:23:08 ◼ ► them and made that one eskimo guy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4988">TS</a>]
01:23:11 ◼ ► face of alaska airlines he's the keys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4991">TS</a>]
01:23:14 ◼ ► the colonel sanders the colonel sanders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4994">TS</a>]
01:23:18 ◼ ► it's my party and I see and looking when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/4998">TS</a>]
01:23:21 ◼ ► the second he has like a prospector [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5001">TS</a>]
01:23:23 ◼ ► looking guy on the prospector that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5003">TS</a>]
01:23:24 ◼ ► right he was one of them and somehow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5004">TS</a>]
01:23:28 ◼ ► this guy became more and more stylized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5008">TS</a>]
01:23:31 ◼ ► and more and more cartoon yeah until now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5011">TS</a>]
01:23:34 ◼ ► he's just dumb i think a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5014">TS</a>]
01:23:36 ◼ ► who have never seen someone in an Eskimo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5016">TS</a>]
01:23:40 ◼ ► parka might not even know what they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5020">TS</a>]
01:23:42 ◼ ► they might I I don't know if if everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5022">TS</a>]
01:23:46 ◼ ► looks at that picture and reads it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5026">TS</a>]
01:23:48 ◼ ► what it is not at all why is this why is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5028">TS</a>]
01:23:51 ◼ ► the face of this guy in this i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5031">TS</a>]
01:23:54 ◼ ► even know if his little hood read this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5034">TS</a>]
01:23:57 ◼ ► fur it doesn't but it's very very high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5037">TS</a>]
01:24:00 ◼ ► contrast so right there's not a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5040">TS</a>]
01:24:03 ◼ ► detail to it looks like it looks like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5043">TS</a>]
01:24:05 ◼ ► might be a fella named Oliver I'm wack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5045">TS</a>]
01:24:09 ◼ ► oh I bet I that doesn't that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5049">TS</a>]
01:24:14 ◼ ► let's say we have to make this photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5054">TS</a>]
01:24:15 ◼ ► here he's a well-known Oliver is a is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5055">TS</a>]
01:24:20 ◼ ► name not not unused in the in the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5060">TS</a>]
01:24:26 ◼ ► something I've heard that before I i had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5066">TS</a>]
01:24:28 ◼ ► a friend named Oliver ok ok story checks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5068">TS</a>]
01:24:31 ◼ ► mhm mhm i had if I had a friend named [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5071">TS</a>]
01:24:35 ◼ ► Oliver who was a who was a native [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5075">TS</a>]
01:24:37 ◼ ► alaskan is what i meant to say yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5077">TS</a>]
01:24:39 ◼ ► so there is so I yeah right he doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5079">TS</a>]
01:24:41 ◼ ► look it's not clear that he's wearing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5081">TS</a>]
01:24:44 ◼ ► fur Parker at all right he just is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5084">TS</a>]
01:24:47 ◼ ► he's a smiling person looks like an afro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5087">TS</a>]
01:24:51 ◼ ► right in a very strange head dress but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5091">TS</a>]
01:24:55 ◼ ► that is that's his / Parker he looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5095">TS</a>]
01:24:57 ◼ ► more like he's got a missile like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5097">TS</a>]
01:25:01 ◼ ► silhouette is the singer from from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5101">TS</a>]
01:25:05 ◼ ► Boston he's got a very well you know me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5105">TS</a>]
01:25:07 ◼ ► a very prominent afro right well let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5107">TS</a>]
01:25:10 ◼ ► hope he doesn't end up the way by but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5110">TS</a>]
01:25:14 ◼ ► oh no did something happen while you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5114">TS</a>]
01:25:16 ◼ ► not there you're not familiar with his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5116">TS</a>]
01:25:18 ◼ ► God not gonna look it up its tail alone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5118">TS</a>]
01:25:22 ◼ ► now he he was regretting now own ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5122">TS</a>]
01:25:29 ◼ ► and he he committed suicide ok alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5129">TS</a>]
01:25:33 ◼ ► and he uh he left a he left a suicide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5133">TS</a>]
01:25:38 ◼ ► note in French that said I am a lonely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5138">TS</a>]
01:25:43 ◼ ► yes the singer of Boston our guy and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5143">TS</a>]
01:25:51 ◼ ► can you what can you do a lonely little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5151">TS</a>]
01:25:54 ◼ ► speaking of bob ross i have feel like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5154">TS</a>]
01:25:57 ◼ ► have very rarely heard you talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5157">TS</a>]
01:26:00 ◼ ► participating in the visual arts so my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5160">TS</a>]
01:26:05 ◼ ► question to you is and if you told me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5165">TS</a>]
01:26:07 ◼ ► this you can tell me to refer somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5167">TS</a>]
01:26:08 ◼ ► else but I don't remember you ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5168">TS</a>]
01:26:09 ◼ ► talking about an interest in Visual Arts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5169">TS</a>]
01:26:12 ◼ ► whether that's drawing or painting or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5172">TS</a>]
01:26:14 ◼ ► what have you do you have you ever done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5174">TS</a>]
01:26:15 ◼ ► any visual things as something spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5175">TS</a>]
01:26:19 ◼ ► so when i was a kid i thought that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5179">TS</a>]
01:26:23 ◼ ► would be a cartoonist wow I spent a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5183">TS</a>]
01:26:28 ◼ ► of time drawing it was my number one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5188">TS</a>]
01:26:31 ◼ ► activity it was what I did in school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5191">TS</a>]
01:26:35 ◼ ► instead of paying attention tanks planes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5195">TS</a>]
01:26:39 ◼ ► cars that kind of thought of the above [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5199">TS</a>]
01:26:41 ◼ ► and then ultimately faces and figures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5201">TS</a>]
01:26:43 ◼ ► and then I started drawing cartoons a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5203">TS</a>]
01:26:51 ◼ ► that I never had a I never had a stock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5211">TS</a>]
01:26:55 ◼ ► cast of people it was more like bizarro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5215">TS</a>]
01:27:00 ◼ ► by Pizarro or I mean it was it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5220">TS</a>]
01:27:04 ◼ ► little not far society because the far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5224">TS</a>]
01:27:07 ◼ ► side had a lot of reoccurring chickens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5227">TS</a>]
01:27:11 ◼ ► absolutely it was just your everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5231">TS</a>]
01:27:14 ◼ ► panel man at one panel and a and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5234">TS</a>]
01:27:18 ◼ ► always a couple of people interacting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5238">TS</a>]
01:27:21 ◼ ► and I i drew a what I think we're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5241">TS</a>]
01:27:28 ◼ ► proto pretty good comics so interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5248">TS</a>]
01:27:33 ◼ ► and hat and filled an entire one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5253">TS</a>]
01:27:39 ◼ ► sex with these cartoons and you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5259">TS</a>]
01:27:44 ◼ ► the challenge of course was to come up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5264">TS</a>]
01:27:46 ◼ ► with ideas and as I as I came up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5266">TS</a>]
01:27:49 ◼ ► funny ideas I would draw them and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5269">TS</a>]
01:27:52 ◼ ► would encounter drawing problems as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5272">TS</a>]
01:27:55 ◼ ► do that's how every artist gets better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5275">TS</a>]
01:27:58 ◼ ► you draw until you encounter a drawing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5278">TS</a>]
01:28:01 ◼ ► problem and then you try and fix it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5281">TS</a>]
01:28:03 ◼ ► try and solve solve for how to draw hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5283">TS</a>]
01:28:07 ◼ ► and hard right solve for how to draw a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5287">TS</a>]
01:28:12 ◼ ► three-quarter view it's easy to draw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5292">TS</a>]
01:28:15 ◼ ► cars but even those you have to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5295">TS</a>]
01:28:17 ◼ ► better at a car you can just draw a card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5297">TS</a>]
01:28:19 ◼ ► from memory you have to go study a car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5299">TS</a>]
01:28:21 ◼ ► because they don't look like you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5301">TS</a>]
01:28:23 ◼ ► yeah anyway so I filled up this notebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5303">TS</a>]
01:28:26 ◼ ► all the way through high school of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5306">TS</a>]
01:28:28 ◼ ► these hilarious what I thought were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5308">TS</a>]
01:28:30 ◼ ► hilarious and which were pretty which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5310">TS</a>]
01:28:32 ◼ ► sometimes approximated hilarious little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5312">TS</a>]
01:28:37 ◼ ► graduation I gave the book to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5317">TS</a>]
01:28:41 ◼ ► long-time high school girlfriend and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5321">TS</a>]
01:28:45 ◼ ► wasn't my girlfriend at the time but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5325">TS</a>]
01:28:47 ◼ ► felt you know I felt the lasting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5327">TS</a>]
01:28:49 ◼ ► lifelong bond with her and so I gave her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5329">TS</a>]
01:28:54 ◼ ► my book of all my cartoons and she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5334">TS</a>]
01:28:59 ◼ ► very appreciative of it because it had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5339">TS</a>]
01:29:02 ◼ ► become a filipino was like John's book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5342">TS</a>]
01:29:04 ◼ ► of cartoons that she knew there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5344">TS</a>]
01:29:07 ◼ ► oh yeah she'd watch me draw them I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5347">TS</a>]
01:29:09 ◼ ► shown them all to her many times and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5349">TS</a>]
01:29:12 ◼ ► was a fan of them and then somehow you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5352">TS</a>]
01:29:19 ◼ ► know I i left Anchorage and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5359">TS</a>]
01:29:21 ◼ ► hitchhiking around the country and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5361">TS</a>]
01:29:23 ◼ ► keeping a journal and throughout that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5363">TS</a>]
01:29:26 ◼ ► throughout my journal there are also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5366">TS</a>]
01:29:28 ◼ ► little caricatures and drawings and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5368">TS</a>]
01:29:31 ◼ ► as I'm trying to describe something i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5371">TS</a>]
01:29:33 ◼ ► seeing I would do a little sketch of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5373">TS</a>]
01:29:36 ◼ ► but that just sort of gradually went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5376">TS</a>]
01:29:41 ◼ ► away and part of it was that I was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5381">TS</a>]
01:29:43 ◼ ► spending a lot of time sitting at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5383">TS</a>]
01:29:45 ◼ ► table where I could draw and it was hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5385">TS</a>]
01:29:49 ◼ ► to draw on buses and it was hard to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5389">TS</a>]
01:29:53 ◼ ► know to make the time to stop and do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5393">TS</a>]
01:29:55 ◼ ► because I was always in motion and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5395">TS</a>]
01:29:58 ◼ ► just left i lost the habit of sketching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5398">TS</a>]
01:30:03 ◼ ► and a few years later maybe ten years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5403">TS</a>]
01:30:07 ◼ ► after I graduated I was with my high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5407">TS</a>]
01:30:11 ◼ ► school girlfriend and i said to her you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5411">TS</a>]
01:30:13 ◼ ► know that book of of of comics she said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5413">TS</a>]
01:30:17 ◼ ► oh yes and I said I mean I gave that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5417">TS</a>]
01:30:21 ◼ ► you then and probably it's just in a box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5421">TS</a>]
01:30:24 ◼ ► now or something and I wouldn't mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5424">TS</a>]
01:30:25 ◼ ► getting it back if you don't if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5425">TS</a>]
01:30:30 ◼ ► don't need it because I you know I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5430">TS</a>]
01:30:33 ◼ ► it would matter to me I'd like to see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5433">TS</a>]
01:30:34 ◼ ► i'd like to interact with the guy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5434">TS</a>]
01:30:38 ◼ ► she said that book belongs to me you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5438">TS</a>]
01:30:42 ◼ ► gave me that and wait a minute it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5442">TS</a>]
01:30:48 ◼ ► I to room and I think I do remember this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5448">TS</a>]
01:30:50 ◼ ► story was like well hmm alright i guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5450">TS</a>]
01:30:54 ◼ ► what I don't suppose you would make me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5454">TS</a>]
01:30:57 ◼ ► copy of it and did this didn't has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5457">TS</a>]
01:30:58 ◼ ► become grist for the idea that she may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5458">TS</a>]
01:31:03 ◼ ► no I she gave every impression that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5463">TS</a>]
01:31:07 ◼ ► uh that she occasionally referred to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5467">TS</a>]
01:31:11 ◼ ► that happen with a different note book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5471">TS</a>]
01:31:13 ◼ ► oh yes no there were the they were the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5473">TS</a>]
01:31:16 ◼ ► journals that were that were just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5476">TS</a>]
01:31:19 ◼ ► out-and-out stolen by and by another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5479">TS</a>]
01:31:23 ◼ ► as part of our by another roommate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5483">TS</a>]
01:31:28 ◼ ► as part of our that's right it was in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5488">TS</a>]
01:31:30 ◼ ► box yes okay sorry i was conflicting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5490">TS</a>]
01:31:33 ◼ ► stories part of our breakup guys but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5493">TS</a>]
01:31:37 ◼ ► he's got it and she's sitting on it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5497">TS</a>]
01:31:39 ◼ ► i don't know i can't imagine that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5499">TS</a>]
01:31:41 ◼ ► refers to it now but at that point after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5501">TS</a>]
01:31:45 ◼ ► i was out of high school 10 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5505">TS</a>]
01:31:48 ◼ ► she was like you're not getting back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5508">TS</a>]
01:31:52 ◼ ► alright so anyway but anyway so I was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5512">TS</a>]
01:31:56 ◼ ► I wanted to be a comic artist and I felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5516">TS</a>]
01:31:59 ◼ ► like comic strips and i don't mean comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5519">TS</a>]
01:32:04 ◼ ► book I understand I understand the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5524">TS</a>]
01:32:06 ◼ ► difference but like comics comic strips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5526">TS</a>]
01:32:09 ◼ ► one panel comics New Yorker style comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5529">TS</a>]
01:32:13 ◼ ► were a very high art form I felt and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5533">TS</a>]
01:32:19 ◼ ► truly great ones rose to the level of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5539">TS</a>]
01:32:21 ◼ ► the truly great and I wanted to be one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5541">TS</a>]
01:32:24 ◼ ► of those and my drawing skill topped out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPO_cyw/5544">TS</a>]
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