13: Unusually Open, with Michael Lopp
  
   
 
 
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     good morning like the morning Michael 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Bob people often date their number one 
     
     
  
 
 
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     complaint I think about the talk shows 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that I don't introduce my guest 
     
     
  
 
 
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     oh I don't we just start talking and we 
     
     
  
 
 
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     talk so I I'm introducing you your name 
     
     
  
 
 
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     is Michael op mmm I don't think I've 
     
     
  
 
 
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     ever heard you 
     
     
  
 
 
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     maybe it's South myself as you said 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Michael out but I'm either i'd never 
     
     
  
 
 
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     heard my full name from you in a really 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     this microphone is huge John thank you 
     
     
  
 
 
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     for the recommendation but I've got this 
     
     
  
 
 
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     huge thing point of space which i think 
     
     
  
 
 
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     sounds really good but it's just it's 
     
     
  
 
 
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     it's dominating the room that would be 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the road podcaster yes is my 
     
     
  
 
 
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     recommendation it so I had it all the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     way back dates back to recommendation 
     
     
  
 
 
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     from our good friend and Benjamin former 
     
     
  
 
 
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     close to the show more or less the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     answer is if you don't know what to get 
     
     
  
 
 
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     you want to record a podcast you get the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     road podcaster USB mic but it is 
     
     
  
 
 
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     enormous it's about the size of like a 
     
     
  
 
 
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     grown man's forearm but it i think it I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     think it actually here's better than I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     do when I first put it on I put on the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     headphones my license huge I could hear 
     
     
  
 
 
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     my kids in the other room right i mean i 
     
     
  
 
 
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     could pick yeah I'm like oh you know are 
     
     
  
 
 
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     they doing down there and i took my 
     
     
  
 
 
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     headphones off and I couldn't hear them 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     could it actually makes me as i told you 
     
     
  
 
 
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     an email actually makes me feel Bionic I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     can hear everything around me right you 
     
     
  
 
 
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     can hear that I i can hear when i 
     
     
  
 
 
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     whenever I plugin i can hear the wheels 
     
     
  
 
 
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     of my chair on the floor right 
     
     
  
 
 
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     did you get the bionic arm thing for it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     i did my kids come in and play with it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and they're like this is so awesome that 
     
     
  
 
 
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     is radio store like no I'm just nerd 
     
     
  
 
 
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     ok big week while two big pieces from 
     
     
  
 
 
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     daring fireball I was like I felt 
     
     
  
 
 
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     compelled since we were talking to go 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and read them you know i'll tell you 
     
     
  
 
 
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     this because you'll appreciate this and 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I think maybe the people listen to it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     listen to the show will appreciate it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     maybe it's just the early morning 
     
     
  
 
 
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     loopiness but i wasn't i know you know 
     
     
  
 
 
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     this that and a few people have noted it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that that yesterday yesterday Monday 
     
     
  
 
 
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     there this week the 13th of of august 
     
     
  
 
 
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     was in fact the 10-year anniversary of 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the first post on daring fireball 
     
     
  
 
 
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     congratulations thank you i didn't note 
     
     
  
 
 
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     this publicly i didn't mention it I've 
     
     
  
 
 
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     never to my knowledge I don't believe 
     
     
  
 
 
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     noted publicly that August thirteenth is 
     
     
  
 
 
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     an anniversary date for daring fireball 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I so like a year ago I didn't know 
     
     
  
 
 
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     tonight anniversary i didn't know the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     eight that in the seventh 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I knew it though I was very much aware 
     
     
  
 
 
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     of it like I went to bed Sunday night I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     went to bed thinking I hope nobody 
     
     
  
 
 
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     notices or says anything tomorrow and 
     
     
  
 
 
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     when I woke up it was the opposite there 
     
     
  
 
 
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     were a bunch of really nice things cocky 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Rosa nice thing there is nothing at the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Atlantic couple people around the web 
     
     
  
 
 
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     had did take notice of it knew that it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     was the 10-year anniversary and it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     everything that everybody wrote about it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     was all very complimentary was very very 
     
     
  
 
 
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     flattering and I i went from waking up 
     
     
  
 
 
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     thinking I hope nobody has noticed this 
     
     
  
 
 
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     to thinking well this is this is all 
     
     
  
 
 
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     very very nice and I feel very flattered 
     
     
  
 
 
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     you remember but the day that i wrote 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the first one 
     
     
  
 
 
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     yeah remember i do you can you describe 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     well I don't know the day so much but I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     do remember that I'd spent a weeks 
     
     
  
 
 
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     leading up to it working on the site the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     design picking the color i mean i've 
     
     
  
 
 
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     i've said this like tomorrow and a 
     
     
  
 
 
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     couple of times that you know took me a 
     
     
  
 
 
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     long time to pick the exact color a 
     
     
  
 
 
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     little darker a little lighter little 
     
     
  
 
 
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     darker or lighter and looking at in 
     
     
  
 
 
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     multiple monitors and trying to find 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that the right shade of ever so slightly 
     
     
  
 
 
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     blue-tinted gray and and and various 
     
     
  
 
 
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     other aspects of the design but 
     
     
  
 
 
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     eventually it was ready to go and I just 
     
     
  
 
 
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     need to do something to write and and I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the thing i could and i can remember 
     
     
  
 
 
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     this feeling very probably is that as 
     
     
  
 
 
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     nerve-wracking as it is to write 
     
     
  
 
 
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     something for public consumption for me 
     
     
  
 
 
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     it's even more nerve-racking to write 
     
     
  
 
 
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     something for nobody's consumption that 
     
     
  
 
 
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     it's like you know and and in the same 
     
     
  
 
 
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     way that it's nerve-racking to get up 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and speak in public in front of an 
     
     
  
 
 
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     audience to me it would be even more 
     
     
  
 
 
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     awkward to get up on a stage with a 
     
     
  
 
 
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     microphone and speak in front of an 
     
     
  
 
 
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     empty room with a microphone and then 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that to me is what publishing the first 
     
     
  
 
 
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     article felt like like getting up and 
     
     
  
 
 
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     giving a speech in front of what i 
     
     
  
 
 
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     suspected to be a completely empty room 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and when I the magic is the first step I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     think exciting once you have it go into 
     
     
  
 
 
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     me and it's like going from going out 
     
     
  
 
 
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     for a run right where you know you know 
     
     
  
 
 
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     you want to run four miles or three 
     
     
  
 
 
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     miles or something like that and if 
     
     
  
 
 
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     you're halfway through and you just feel 
     
     
  
 
 
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     beat but you know you're not home yet 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and you know you're having done the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     thing you just keep your feet moving 
     
     
  
 
 
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     just keep moving just keep moving and 
     
     
  
 
 
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     eventually you're going to be home and 
     
     
  
 
 
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     you're gonna have the miles it but to me 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that the one that's hardest is right 
     
     
  
 
 
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     outside your front door when you haven't 
     
     
  
 
 
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     started yet right and you're not sweaty 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and you're not tired and you haven't you 
     
     
  
 
 
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     know if you haven't even started loving 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     it's just going from i'm standing still 
     
     
  
 
 
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     haven't started to ok i'm running that 
     
     
  
 
 
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     transition that's the hard part 
     
     
  
 
 
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     totally present because once you start 
     
     
  
 
 
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     it's it it's way easier to keep going 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and it is to get started getting started 
     
     
  
 
 
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     is without question the hardest part I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     think I've had like three or four 
     
     
  
 
 
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     articles on the topic of just that that 
     
     
  
 
 
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     nodes you have to give yourself so I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     thought about this considerably now and 
     
     
  
 
 
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     i will say this I i well and i'm and and 
     
     
  
 
 
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     i'm going to be unusually open because 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     oh ah but the idea I had was that I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     wasn't going to publicly acknowledge 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that 10-year anniversary of of daring 
     
     
  
 
 
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     fireball was going to tacitly 
     
     
  
 
 
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     acknowledged and but i would implicitly 
     
     
  
 
 
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     it acknowledged it by publishing on the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     actual 10th anniversary a what I thought 
     
     
  
 
 
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     to be prototypically daring fireball 
     
     
  
 
 
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     which article but the article I was 
     
     
  
 
 
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     going to write was the one that I didn't 
     
     
  
 
 
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     write on 13th is the one I wrote 
     
     
  
 
 
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     yesterday on the further information and 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and speculation on the ipad mini but I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     didn't write that on the 13 i wrote on 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the 13 my review the retina macbook pro 
     
     
  
 
 
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     here's how that came about is when I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     woke up on under 13 and this is true I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     swear and I realized that there were a 
     
     
  
 
 
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     couple people around the web who did 
     
     
  
 
 
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     notice and acknowledge that 10-year 
     
     
  
 
 
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     anniversary of during fireball one of 
     
     
  
 
 
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     them was to see the Senate's at the the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Atlantic this young kid he's only in 
     
     
  
 
 
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     college Robinson Meyer wrote an article 
     
     
  
 
 
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     in the Atlantic called happy 10th 
     
     
  
 
 
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     birthday daring fireball and it's it's a 
     
     
  
 
 
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     really nice little piece very very 
     
     
  
 
 
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     flattering overall anybody who got our 
     
     
  
 
 
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     my dad my dad even called me on the day 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and my dad like like he often doesn't 
     
     
  
 
 
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     acknowledge it but sometimes that he 
     
     
  
 
 
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     can't help because there's no other way 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that he can acknowledge what he's 
     
     
  
 
 
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     talking about but but that he apparently 
     
     
  
 
 
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     like I don't know if he does it every 
     
     
  
 
 
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     day but at least a couple times a week 
     
     
  
 
 
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     my dad Google's my name and sees what's 
     
     
  
 
 
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     going on and he doesn't really get it is 
     
     
  
 
 
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     not a technology guy right on but 
     
     
  
 
 
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     googling my name on Monday this this 
     
     
  
 
 
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     came up and you know the Atlantic you 
     
     
  
 
 
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     know that's like a a list name and you 
     
     
  
 
 
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     decide you see this thing atlantic in 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the end and yeah I my dad you know kind 
     
     
  
 
 
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     of my dad stay so Robinson Meyer never 
     
     
  
 
 
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     heard before but he wrote this nice 
     
     
  
 
 
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     piece of mind attend anniversary daring 
     
     
  
 
 
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     firebomb he says at the beginning and I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     think this is very nice and I feel like 
     
     
  
 
 
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     this is a guy who gets it he wrote it's 
     
     
  
 
 
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     a blog not just about Apple what about 
     
     
  
 
 
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     excellence nice i say that as a sentence 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that's actually that's a guy who gets it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and its season 14 
     
     
  
 
 
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     it's all very very flattering and 
     
     
  
 
 
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     anybody who had an article like this 
     
     
  
 
 
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     written about their work should be very 
     
     
  
 
 
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     very flattering but I wasn't flattered 
     
     
  
 
 
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     because at the very end was this 
     
     
  
 
 
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     paragraph is the third from the bottom 
     
     
  
 
 
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     it says the past year DF hasn't been as 
     
     
  
 
 
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     enjoyable as it has been in the past 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Oh Apple groupers Beatrice is engorged 
     
     
  
 
 
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     as a company and now seems to be veering 
     
     
  
 
 
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     from interesting complex to dolly 
     
     
  
 
 
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     complicated parentheses i hope the next 
     
     
  
 
 
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     few months prove me wrong on both counts 
     
     
  
 
 
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     in parentheses 10 years ago grouper pick 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the right story at the right time and 
     
     
  
 
 
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     followed the most complete business 
     
     
  
 
 
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     turnaround anesthetic parable in recent 
     
     
  
 
 
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     history but in light of that victory is 
     
     
  
 
 
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     renegade confidence has become an 
     
     
  
 
 
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     assured superiority he hasn't written 
     
     
  
 
 
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     for a long time and engaging description 
     
     
  
 
 
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     of a laptop and now that was a link to 
     
     
  
 
 
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     my 2005 article on a powerbook what was 
     
     
  
 
 
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     then called a powerbook right 15 
     
     
  
 
 
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     powerbook or an account of an 
     
     
  
 
 
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     anthropomorphized interface settlement 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and in that paragraph really stuck with 
     
     
  
 
 
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     me and really I really pissed me off and 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that made me that honest to god that's 
     
     
  
 
 
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     what made me instead of writing 
     
     
  
 
 
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     yesterday about the upcoming tablet 
     
     
  
 
 
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     stuff that I thought about and know 
     
     
  
 
 
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     about little little little bits here and 
     
     
  
 
 
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     there that I know a little bit here and 
     
     
  
 
 
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     there that I've sort of thought through 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and I thought fuck you i'll show you a 
     
     
  
 
 
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     fucking engaging description product you 
     
     
  
 
 
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     know I yeah but you know what i mean add 
     
     
  
 
 
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     to me and and then I thought about it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     after I why did i do that why would i 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I'd why would i get so fired up about an 
     
     
  
 
 
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     article that I should be should feel 
     
     
  
 
 
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     flattered by not fired up by but I feel 
     
     
  
 
 
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     like that's the way you have to be I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     feel like you've got to if you're not 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     I don't sometimes I feel like you need 
     
     
  
 
 
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     to look for an enemy not an enemy bet 
     
     
  
 
 
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     you I don't know what am I my I if 
     
     
  
 
 
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     people knew people who have actually 
     
     
  
 
 
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     really changed my day or bend the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     sources of articles if they actually 
     
     
  
 
 
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     knew who they were 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I don't have a lot of the mortises or 
     
     
  
 
 
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     anonymous people but the amount of 
     
     
  
 
 
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     energy that i get from sort of the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     random critic who's sane a critical 
     
     
  
 
 
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     right not this the total troll it may be 
     
     
  
 
 
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     shocked i mean i can't like do origin 
     
     
  
 
 
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     stories and all the articles but the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     amount of of energy that I've gotten 
     
     
  
 
 
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     from random folks and like hey you know 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:11:05
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     rands is not resonating with me and 
     
     
  
 
 
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     really said anything like a month or two 
     
     
  
 
 
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     this person who i do not know at all who 
     
     
  
 
 
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     know just ruined my weekend because i'm 
     
     
  
 
 
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     going to sit there and write a piece 
     
     
  
 
 
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     about pens or something like that this 
     
     
  
 
 
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     happens it happens a lot 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I'm listening I see everything that 
     
     
  
 
 
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     comes by my inbox and it does affect 
     
     
  
 
 
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     even though i don't know these people 
     
     
  
 
 
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     are right but yeah and in and you'll 
     
     
  
 
 
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     make it fire you up 
     
     
  
 
 
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     yes right and end and I know that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:11:35
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     ► 
     athletes are like this too and if you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:11:37
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     say anything that can be construed as 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:11:39
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     confrontational it's going up on the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     locker room wall and it's going to be 
     
     
  
 
 
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     framed and and they're going to use that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:11:47
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     and they're going to say off 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:11:49
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     this guy right you know you think you're 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:11:52
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     going to be dust you know if you imply 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:11:54
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     that you think you're going to beat the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:11:55
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     opposing team that's going up on the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that's going up on the locker room board 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:11:58
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     and everybody in the opposing team is 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:12:00
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     going to see that you need something to 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:12:03
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     yeah I mean it's not about you but like 
     
     
  
 
 
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     most of my most of my pieces 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I'd literally see like seventy percent 
     
     
  
 
 
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     of the piece in my head based on just 
     
     
  
 
 
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     some again bit flipping in my head like 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I'm like to do and it's like oh I can 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:12:18
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     that's the thing i want to say right and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:12:20
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     it's what it's someone kicking me or 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:12:22
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     just being inspired by reading something 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:12:24
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     i can actually see the whole piece and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:12:26
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     that's what i want to have that moment 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:12:28
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     it's just run to the nearest keyboard as 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:12:30
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     quickly as possible or piece of paper 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:12:32
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     and just start getting it out there it's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:12:36
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     a lovely experience i love when I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:12:38
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     capture that I I just paste the link to 
     
     
  
 
 
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     do you see this guy named kemper Smith a 
     
     
  
 
 
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     distant shape distant shaped on this 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:12:48
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     beautiful and and he did this with no 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:12:52
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     help from me and he didn't didn't pay me 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:12:55
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     in advance i didn't turn down a request 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:12:56
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     but he did this is he he downloaded all 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:13:00
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     962 full articles that I written during 
     
     
  
 
 
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     fireball over the last 10 years and tag 
     
     
  
 
 
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     them himself even though i've actually 
     
     
  
 
 
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     been tagging all of my articles all 
     
     
  
 
 
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     along but but the tags I've been 
     
     
  
 
 
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     applying to them aren't exposed publicly 
     
     
  
 
 
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     anywhere they're only in movable-type 
     
     
  
 
 
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     behind the scenes and and you know I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:13:24
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     guess someday i'll try to expose it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:13:25
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     somehow I but it's not publicly 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:13:28
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     available so this guy downloaded all the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:13:30
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     articles read them all and as you read 
     
     
  
 
 
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     them tag them all and you can see the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     tags he applied underneath and he 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I email them and after this came out 
     
     
  
 
 
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     because it's so interesting and at 
     
     
  
 
 
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     number one I asked him do did you tag 
     
     
  
 
 
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     all these yourself and he was like yeah 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:13:52
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     sigh oh my god I feel almost feel guilty 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:13:55
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     about that because I've got the tags 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:13:56
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     behind the scenes and could save you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:13:59
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     some work but but maybe the tags he 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:14:02
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     implied or more interesting but maybe 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:14:04
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     they're more honest because they're 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:14:05
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     they're more objective than the text i 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:14:07
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     would have applied but he even admitted 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that he didn't do it from the outset to 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:14:11
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     achieve the vigil visualization he has 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:14:14
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     but only realized as he was going that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:14:16
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     it would make for a good visualization 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:14:17
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     is that he's he's applied colors to the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     articles on this this graph blue meaning 
     
     
  
 
 
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     desktop topics typically almost 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:14:28
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     certainly mac and pink for mobile 
     
     
  
 
 
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     meaning iOS or or ipad i guess and it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     just so happens if you think about it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that given that the iphone came out in 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:14:44
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     2007 that if if now is the 10-year 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:14:48
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     anniversary of during fireball that it's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:14:50
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     actually half of the you know the first 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:14:52
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     half the first five years that I've been 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:14:54
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     writing during fireball there was no 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:14:56
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     iphone in the last five years there has 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:14:59
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     been an iphone and you can kind of see 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:01
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     and this this graph that has made the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:04
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     shift in topics on during fireball from 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:07
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     desktop to mobile you got blue on the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:11
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     left you've got kind of purple in the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     middle and then we'll pink on the on the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:15
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     right so he's also got a pivot to go to 
     
     
  
 
 
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     showing our article links as well and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:21
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     there's something very comforting 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:23
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     stop it looks like you're generally 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:25
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     writing shorter articles but what's more 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:27
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     interesting to me is that there's this 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:29
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     flow to the sides of your articles over 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:32
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     the course of a year it looks like yeah 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:35
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     there's this little like sort of bump it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:37
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     looks like what winter time I can 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:39
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     actually figure it out but there is a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:41
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     cake there's a structure to the size of 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:43
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     your articles over the course of the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:44
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     year which is fascinating 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:47
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     yeah and it's not winter though it's is 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:50
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     its I don't know now but there is there 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:54
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     is a pattern to it but it doesn't quite 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:15:56
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     the cyclical it or doesn't quite 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:59
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     correspond to the calendar in any way 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:01
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     but there is like a sine wave like 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:04
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     motion to it interesting and it is 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:08
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     interesting and it's the sort of thing 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:09
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     where I often think about doing stuff 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:11
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     like this i often think like you know 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:13
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     what I should do is you know and it's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:14
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     the type of programming that I'm 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:16
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     actually capable of doing is like the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:18
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     lemme export everything ever written 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:19
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     during fire Paul and count all the words 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:21
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     or or let me I you know I can do stuff 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:25
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     ► 
     like this is the type of programming i 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:26
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     can do or let me a verge how many words 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:29
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     i've written a month for the last 10 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:31
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     years or you know is there any kind of 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:34
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     pattern in my writing fewer words per 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:35
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     month that my writing you know more are 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:38
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     you know that sort of thing but then I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:41
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     ► 
     get freaked out by it I get freaked out 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:43
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     ► 
     by the self-awareness and I don't do it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:45
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     ► 
     so it's interesting to see somebody else 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:46
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     ► 
     to it and you're right there is there's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:48
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     definitely like a sine wave pattern here 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:51
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     to the length of the pieces 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:52
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     ok there's another tag down here that's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:54
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     ► 
     really important because i know this is 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:56
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     ► 
     a personal issue of yours gonna have to 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:58
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     ► 
     get a whiny em boston terrier outside my 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:01
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     ► 
     windows have to go in like two seconds 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:02
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     ► 
     but there's a tag here which is was 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:05
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     ► 
     wrong about something and according to 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:08
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     ► 
     him just eyeballing this 123456789 10 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:13
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     ► 
     tulip maybe like 15 there's 15 that he 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:17
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     ► 
     measured as was wrong about something I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:22
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     ► 
     I know you're obsessive about this I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:24
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     ► 
     feel like number is low 15 wrong about 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:29
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     ► 
     something that may feel like numbers 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:17:31
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     ► 
     I wish that it was zero god I wish I 1.5 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:38
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     ► 
     times a year though I'm wrong about 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:39
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     ► 
     something that sense that sounds good 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:41
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     ► 
     and and you know what one reason that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:42
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     ► 
     that's could be could be low is that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:45
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     ► 
     he's only counting for lack of a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:48
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     ► 
     sufficient term the full articles the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:50
     ◼
      
     ► 
     ones that that get a star in the RSS 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:53
     ◼
      
     ► 
     reader and show up in my arm 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:55
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     ► 
     have his own methodology is actually 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:57
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     ► 
     suspect he's got the tag right next to 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:59
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     it's for my favorite and this is why 
     
     
  
 
 
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     it's a little bit more interesting that 
     
     
  
 
 
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     he tagged the articles rather than going 
     
     
  
 
 
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     with if he had somehow had access to my 
     
     
  
 
 
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     internal tags which don't have stuff 
     
     
  
 
 
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     like that my tags are just stuff like 
     
     
  
 
 
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     you know tablets or Android wear samsung 
     
     
  
 
 
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     vs apple lawsuit or something like that 
     
     
  
 
 
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     he's got one where where is it was a 
     
     
  
 
 
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     grouper knows something i think that 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Google has inside information yeah there 
     
     
  
 
 
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     it is Gruber has inside information 
     
     
  
 
 
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     yeah that's pretty good John syracuse 
     
     
  
 
 
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     let's see what's going on here huh you 
     
     
  
 
 
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     tag John circular less than you've been 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     yeah but i do feel i will say this i 
     
     
  
 
 
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     will say this and I've I have said this 
     
     
  
 
 
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     publicly many times that it is one of my 
     
     
  
 
 
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     goals with the site overriding always 
     
     
  
 
 
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     every day always very aware of it is is 
     
     
  
 
 
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     it's in my mind I don't be wrong 
     
     
  
 
 
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     yeah you're right about everything but 
     
     
  
 
 
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     on the other hand you want to i want to 
     
     
  
 
 
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     take chances i want to push myself and I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     if I'm never wrong that I'm not pushing 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     sure right i mean i think that's true in 
     
     
  
 
 
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     anything in life right 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I mean it's if you don't have any 
     
     
  
 
 
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     failures you're not pushing yourself 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I and when you are wrong immediately get 
     
     
  
 
 
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     on top of it first thing to do when you 
     
     
  
 
 
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     realize you're wrong is acknowledged it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and you do it publicly to say you know 
     
     
  
 
 
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     what here's this thing I wrote this 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that's wrong here's why and get on top 
     
     
  
 
 
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     of it do not be the guy who because he 
     
     
  
 
 
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     doesn't want to be wrong starts working 
     
     
  
 
 
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     on ways to show how when he was wrong he 
     
     
  
 
 
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     wasn't wrong 
     
     
  
 
 
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     don't be that guy I think it's it i 
     
     
  
 
 
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     think it's i think its 10-year 
     
     
  
 
 
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     anniversary we can can honor fireball a 
     
     
  
 
 
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     little bit but I think that's one of the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     defining reasons it's been six as full 
     
     
  
 
 
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     as it's the journalism background right 
     
     
  
 
 
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     is you don't just you know you don't 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     and what kind of op-ed pieces and kind 
     
     
  
 
 
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     of dreaming and in poetry and whatnot 
     
     
  
 
 
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     but it's like it you can base your 
     
     
  
 
 
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     statements as best you can 
     
     
  
 
 
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     unless you can flag it as otherwise you 
     
     
  
 
 
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     based on facts right and just when you 
     
     
  
 
 
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     go and you see all the mass media staff 
     
     
  
 
 
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     of people with opinions and going back 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and forth it's sort of refreshing and 
     
     
  
 
 
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     obviously on the fan and bias to 
     
     
  
 
 
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     actually like know that in both the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     pieces that you did this week it's like 
     
     
  
 
 
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     it this is based on the best data that I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     have and I'm going to source the best I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     can and yes i will have opinions about 
     
     
  
 
 
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     this but at the end of the day this this 
     
     
  
 
 
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     is this is this is sourced information 
     
     
  
 
 
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     does that make sense yeah but if i'm 
     
     
  
 
 
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     wrong i'm gonna get right on top of it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:20:47
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     so let's just say for example with this 
     
     
  
 
 
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     whole iPad Mini or ipad air whatever you 
     
     
  
 
 
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     want to call it thing let's say that the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     thing ships and it doesn't have a 4 310 
     
     
  
 
 
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     like one of the fundamental things I've 
     
     
  
 
 
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     been writing about all year is that 
     
     
  
 
 
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     they've if Apple makes a smaller ipad is 
     
     
  
 
 
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     going to have a 1024 x 768 43 aspect 
     
     
  
 
 
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     ratio display at a hundred sixty-three 
     
     
  
 
 
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     DPI let's say this thing ships and it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     has a 16 29 display a widescreen display 
     
     
  
 
 
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     or if I iphone like 32 display well the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     first thing I'm going to do is say well 
     
     
  
 
 
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     holy should I was wrong and linked to 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the instances in the past that I've 
     
     
  
 
 
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     written that it's going to have the 43 
     
     
  
 
 
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     10-6 you know 1048 by the or 1024 x 768 
     
     
  
 
 
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     display and just get it all out and just 
     
     
  
 
 
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     say look I was wrong 
     
     
  
 
 
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     here here here and here terribly awfully 
     
     
  
 
 
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     completely wrong bad assumption and you 
     
     
  
 
 
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     know and and you know get right to show 
     
     
  
 
 
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     how will show where everything I've been 
     
     
  
 
 
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     writing was wrong and immediately try to 
     
     
  
 
 
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     get it you know get on top of all that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:21:51
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     acknowledged everywhere is wrong and 
     
     
  
 
 
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     then get right and then explain what 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that means right 
     
     
  
 
 
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     no other way to do it I don't understand 
     
     
  
 
 
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     people to do it otherwise 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I think they don't want to be wrong 
     
     
  
 
 
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     there's um no the rotating around 
     
     
  
 
 
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     there's another tag here it's very 
     
     
  
 
 
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     interesting tags calls somebody jackass 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I think you think I think this is under 
     
     
  
 
 
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     represented to it looks like in 2006 
     
     
  
 
 
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     you're calling a lot of people jackasses 
     
     
  
 
 
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     but I think you've done it more like us 
     
     
  
 
 
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     me jackass of the week is sort of or 
     
     
  
 
 
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     whatever the is it has it died down 
     
     
  
 
 
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     yeah definitely but that HC the reason 
     
     
  
 
 
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     why is that I think most jackasses of 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the week were linked what I call linked 
     
     
  
 
 
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     list items not full articles right right 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and I would just linked to the jackass 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and explain why they're jackass but 
     
     
  
 
 
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     without writing a full article about 
     
     
  
 
 
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     them so it's there's not going to be a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:22:39
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     lot of them on these tags are great 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:22:42
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     fictitious dialogue this is another one 
     
     
  
 
 
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     this is this is one of the first things 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that my memories of you was what was the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     cancer polarized payment say it's too 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     chrome right anthropomorphised brushed 
     
     
  
 
 
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     metal interface exactly this is this is 
     
     
  
 
 
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     they feel like a rare treat to me right 
     
     
  
 
 
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     now I feel like you're literally you 
     
     
  
 
 
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     know you're a lot of your articles it's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:23:04
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     clear you're working right you're like 
     
     
  
 
 
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     gotta get this right that these I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:23:07
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     imagine you sitting back drinking a 
     
     
  
 
 
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     martini kind of giggling to yourself as 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:23:12
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     you're writing the piece and get a 
     
     
  
 
 
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     little drunk right this is this is what 
     
     
  
 
 
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     i saw in them 
     
     
  
 
 
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     yeah and there's no Dino is somehow i 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:23:23
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     feel like i'm a little overdue for 
     
     
  
 
 
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     something silly on the site when we can 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:23:28
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     have tags to prove it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:23:29
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     yeah now these tags are great you know 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:23:32
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     and i should mention and and I we went 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:23:34
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     through this last night you you actually 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:23:36
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     hit your 10th anniversary on ransom 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:23:38
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     proposed before I did you say it was 
     
     
  
 
 
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     earlier this year you don't you're not 
     
     
  
 
 
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     quite exactly sure when the baby was 
     
     
  
 
 
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     April I wasn't paying attention either 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:23:44
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     you know but I got coverage on Fox and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:23:47
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     you know CNN and that cover story about 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:23:50
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     so was pretty big deal is I played it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:23:53
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     played quieter now I was it was 10 years 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:23:55
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     ago in April I was I was I wasn't gonna 
     
     
  
 
 
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     say anything 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:23:59
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     got a couple notes from folks but i was 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:01
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     i was launching my web fonts at the time 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:05
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     so it seemed like a time at least say 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:07
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     something so 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:08
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     it's a 10 years I find that interesting 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:11
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     that the two of us started completely 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:13
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     independently and and over those years 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:15
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     and many drinks and South thighs and Las 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:19
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     ► 
     Vegas situations and it's working here 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:21
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     we are sitting here 10 years later 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:22
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     there's something very I'm center just 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:25
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     think about that and there are and and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:28
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     you know i think a lot of it is the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:29
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     nature of what's likely if you started 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:33
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     your website circuit 2002 right there's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:37
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     a very good chance that you're running 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:39
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     ► 
     movable-type and Beyond are both running 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:41
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     ► 
     movable-type you're still running loop 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:24:43
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     yeah I've considered other things but I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:45
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     mean you might have no reason to leave 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:47
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     there is nothing it does it doesn't do 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:50
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     ► 
     that i needed to do 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:51
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     ► 
     although I did see that have not movable 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:53
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     ► 
     type but blogger launch medium last 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:57
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     ► 
     night inside its I saw that too and it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:59
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     is funny because I'll tell you what on 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:01
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     the days when I'm actually writing a bit 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:03
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     a bigger article and and the last two 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:06
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     days monday and tuesday this week that's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:08
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     what I've spent my days doing is 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:09
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     nose-down writing like nobody's talking 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:13
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     to me and I come skipping meals and i'm 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:16
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     just writing writing writing right the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:19
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     ► 
     world then passes me by 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:21
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     right like it is kind of it is kind of 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:23
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     mutually exclusive to the other side of 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:27
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     ► 
     daring fireball where I'm linking to 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:28
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     ► 
     what's new and technology with brief 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:30
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     ► 
     pieces like so on days when I'm not 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:33
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     ► 
     really writing anything big 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:34
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     ► 
     I'm like on top of the industry and I'm 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:36
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     ► 
     like within five minutes aware of 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:38
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     ► 
     everything that's going on everywhere 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:41
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     ► 
     and on the days when I'm actually 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:42
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     ► 
     writing it's like like last night I went 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:45
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     ► 
     I was I don't you know when I realized 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:47
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     ► 
     that doesn't that medium was announced 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:49
     ◼
      
     ► 
     but it wasn't when it when it hit like 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:51
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     ► 
     it was hours later and I was like had 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:53
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     ► 
     written my article and my family would 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:56
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     ► 
     you know my wife my son they were in bed 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:58
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     ► 
     and then I could catch up on Twitter and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:26:02
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     ► 
     then all of a sudden I realize how we 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:26:03
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     ► 
     should have Evan Williams just launched 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:26:04
     ◼
      
     ► 
     an entire new blogging platform 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:26:06
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     ► 
     something but I don't quite get it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:26:08
     ◼
      
     ► 
     I don't get medium no I don't get 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:26:10
     ◼
      
     ► 
     together i mean i've given it 15 minutes 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:26:12
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     ► 
     and it's seven so you've gotta pay 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:26:14
     ◼
      
     ► 
     attention right but it's unlike ok i 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:26:18
     ◼
      
     ► 
     haven't found a compelling thing 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:26:19
     ◼
      
     ► 
     although they have a very nice 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:26:20
     ◼
      
     ► 
     to slab serif emser as their mark in 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:26:24
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     ► 
     their logo so but i haven't actually 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:26:26
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     ► 
     like digested with the elder up to get I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     absolutely feel the same way you do wear 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that if the guys last couple of projects 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that he helped launch were blogger and 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Twitter then yet you know you kind of 
     
     
  
 
 
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     want to get you going to get together 
     
     
  
 
 
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     benefit that know you you're like yes I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     will sign up i will give you my fifty 
     
     
  
 
 
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     dollars i will i'm certainly interested 
     
     
  
 
 
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     even though i do not get in and even his 
     
     
  
 
 
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     miss which I would describe odio as was 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the right idea which was a podcast are 
     
     
  
 
 
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     going to be a big deal 
     
     
  
 
 
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     yeah kind of before like because and and 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the thing that killed oh do I think more 
     
     
  
 
 
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     or less was Apple getting into podcasts 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I remember and a and an apple got into 
     
     
  
 
 
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     podcasts surprisingly early for apple 
     
     
  
 
 
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     yes like it i'm still I still think I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     still think it's one of the most 
     
     
  
 
 
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     interesting things apples done the last 
     
     
  
 
 
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     10 years was the way that Apple jumped 
     
     
  
 
 
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     on podcasting so early 
     
     
  
 
 
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     alright I and it kind of killed the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     audio but at least even so even even the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     one that they missed on the thing that 
     
     
  
 
 
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     didn't really amount to much i ended up 
     
     
  
 
 
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     being the right idea just wasn't wasn't 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the right there wasn't really a business 
     
     
  
 
 
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     model he was he was collecting break 
     
     
  
 
 
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     people this is my recollection and 
     
     
  
 
 
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     during that time to like Dunstan and I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     think with this Dorsey was in that and 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that means so he had this incubator 
     
     
  
 
 
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     going on in there so even though it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     didn't work out he had that sort of 
     
     
  
 
 
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     universal people around and let you know 
     
     
  
 
 
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     when often did someone interesting 
     
     
  
 
 
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     things right the long story short I was 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that you know is i the the parent 
     
     
  
 
 
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     company which is a great name 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I i think is one of the great names I've 
     
     
  
 
 
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     said this to have I i don't know if that 
     
     
  
 
 
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     well but I have said this to my life 
     
     
  
 
 
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     when I've seen them is that obvious 
     
     
  
 
 
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     corporation is one of my favorite names 
     
     
  
 
 
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     in the history of naming anything I can 
     
     
  
 
 
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     kind of helps explain it is it is sort 
     
     
  
 
 
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     of a like it's an apt description of 
     
     
  
 
 
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     everything I've Williams ever does 
     
     
  
 
 
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     right right it's like blogger was sort 
     
     
  
 
 
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     of an obvious idea Twitter super obvious 
     
     
  
 
 
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     idea pod containing it's like it's like 
     
     
  
 
 
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     a way of being like are we 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the right path is this is just obvious 
     
     
  
 
 
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     right right but the idea was that the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     audio was their big bat and the thing 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that they actually had money invested in 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and lots of time and everything and they 
     
     
  
 
 
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     like gave up on it and in the meantime 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Jack Dorsey who was working there at 
     
     
  
 
 
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     this little idea for what about this 
     
     
  
 
 
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     thing this idea I have for a centralized 
     
     
  
 
 
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     server for sending status messages and 
     
     
  
 
 
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     then you know boom Twitter yeah eat the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Duke and pick names medium it's a great 
     
     
  
 
 
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     name and exactly describe I mean it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     whatever i'm not sure what they're doing 
     
     
  
 
 
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     but it's like clearly it's just it's 
     
     
  
 
 
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     just like let's try to reimagine the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     blogging the the content platform can 
     
     
  
 
 
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     let me take a break here and talk about 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the first sponsor ok I and i want to 
     
     
  
 
 
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     tell you it's to iphone app it's a 
     
     
  
 
 
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     repeat sponsor from from few episodes 
     
     
  
 
 
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     ago app for your iPhone called humorless 
     
     
  
 
 
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     photography app it's a camera app for 
     
     
  
 
 
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     your iPhone and it's sort of a do one 
     
     
  
 
 
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     thing and do one thing well app and the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     one thing the humorless does is take 
     
     
  
 
 
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     black and white photography and you like 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Michael up you like black-and-white 
     
     
  
 
 
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     pictures anyone who follows me on 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:29:49
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     ► 
     Instagram knows i'm still furious about 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the removal of the gossip filter because 
     
     
  
 
 
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     i think it was with which is like 18 
     
     
  
 
 
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     months ago i'm still mad about this I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     stilt a grip Garth Gotham because I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     figured out how to sort of approximated 
     
     
  
 
 
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     but a mad and I have a conspiracy theory 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:30:06
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     alright was removed but please continue 
     
     
  
 
 
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     this is a guy was a complete set up 
     
     
  
 
 
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     because I know as a guy who follows your 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Instagram that you love black-and-white 
     
     
  
 
 
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     love photography is all heelys does is 
     
     
  
 
 
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     humorous is an app that is meant for 
     
     
  
 
 
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     taking it it's just it's it's a 
     
     
  
 
 
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     black-and-white camera that's what it is 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and i'm a huge fan of it and i've always 
     
     
  
 
 
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     been a fan of black and white I think 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that there's this weird psychology 
     
     
  
 
 
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     behind black and I know it's not natural 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and know that it's sort of it the whole 
     
     
  
 
 
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     origins of black-and-white were like 
     
     
  
 
 
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     technical limitations that kept us from 
     
     
  
 
 
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     shooting in color but in hindsight 
     
     
  
 
 
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     there's this great great emotional 
     
     
  
 
 
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     effect from black-and-white photography 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and I i think there's really something 
     
     
  
 
 
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     to seeing your pictures in black and 
     
     
  
 
 
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     white as you're shooting them so that 
     
     
  
 
 
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     you know what you're getting 
     
     
  
 
 
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     yeah and that's what euless is all about 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and they have a brand-new version 1.5 
     
     
  
 
 
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     it's in the months since the last time 
     
     
  
 
 
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     they've sponsored to show they've been 
     
     
  
 
 
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     hard at work and the some really great 
     
     
  
 
 
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     features they've got some new aspect 
     
     
  
 
 
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     ratios that you can enjoy so you can 
     
     
  
 
 
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     shoot 1 21 which means square which 
     
     
  
 
 
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     means like optimized for instant paper 
     
     
  
 
 
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     right in the camera intagram 322 which 
     
     
  
 
 
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     is the aspect ratio of the iphone screen 
     
     
  
 
 
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     or at least the iphone that we have 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:31:26
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     right now so you can shoot full frame 
     
     
  
 
 
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     you got some new aspect ratios you see 
     
     
  
 
 
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     him right there in on the screen as you 
     
     
  
 
 
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     shoot a bunch of clean up the way that 
     
     
  
 
 
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     they made the user interface even more 
     
     
  
 
 
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     streamlined improve direct access to 
     
     
  
 
 
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     their color filters now the color 
     
     
  
 
 
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     filters you say what the hell you said 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:31:45
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     it's a black-and-white app the color 
     
     
  
 
 
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     filter is what i mean is that they 
     
     
  
 
 
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     simulate in terms of traditional 
     
     
  
 
 
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     photography the way that you would put 
     
     
  
 
 
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     like an orange filter over your lens or 
     
     
  
 
 
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     a green filter or blue filter which 
     
     
  
 
 
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     filters the light that comes through and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:31:59
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     you get different degrees of contrast 
     
     
  
 
 
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     works for example on and I'll God and 
     
     
  
 
 
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     it's so early in the morning that it's 
     
     
  
 
 
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     like pitch black here so i can i'm 
     
     
  
 
 
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     guessing wrong but like if you want the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     sky to pop against the clouds I think 
     
     
  
 
 
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     you put like a blue filter on and then 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the blue will look dark and the white of 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the clouds will look white and you put a 
     
     
  
 
 
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     color filter and you get different types 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:32:24
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     of contrast out of the black and white 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:32:26
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     so in other words it's not about making 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the image tinted color its route 
     
     
  
 
 
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     altering what is dark what is light and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:32:33
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     the thing they've improved the interface 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:32:35
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     for that dramatically so that you can 
     
     
  
 
 
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     switch the color filter on the fly in 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the viewfinder and more conveniently it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:32:44
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     really really nice 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:32:45
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     it's a for the gotham to certain to back 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:32:47
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     up here the the Gotham filter that to 
     
     
  
 
 
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     rebuild it to which involves about two 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:32:51
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     different apps which was the first as a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:32:53
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     black-and-white app the first thing that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:32:54
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     I do is actually a red filter which 
     
     
  
 
 
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     actually gets that pop that you see 
     
     
  
 
 
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     against clouds and makes the sky could 
     
     
  
 
 
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     be black so it's like if you list has a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:33:04
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     red filter built right in there's a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:33:05
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     slider that lets you adjust how strong 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:33:07
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     it is whether it's dark whether it's 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     I it really is absolutely positively one 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:33:13
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     of my favorite apps for the iPhone I and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:33:16
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     if i'm thinking if I'm feeling black and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:33:18
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     white i immediately that's what I know I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:33:19
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     want to go to I go to houlis to shoot 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:33:23
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     I'm and I I think everybody should check 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:33:26
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     ► 
     it out you can go to a humorless hu e le 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:33:31
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     ► 
     SS app.com and find out more get a link 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:33:35
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     ► 
     to their to their app in the App Store 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:33:37
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     ► 
     and if you've already got it just quit 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:33:40
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     ► 
     go to the App Store app and and download 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:33:42
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     ► 
     the 1.5 update you've you definitely 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:33:44
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     ► 
     want it it's it's it's a great update 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:33:48
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     ► 
     everybody should get if you don't have a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:33:49
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     ► 
     shame on you you list in the appstore 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:33:53
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     ► 
     199 I mean for God's sake won a dollar 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:33:56
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     ► 
     ninety-nine buck 99 how who can't afford 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:33:58
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     that less than ever the coffee exactly 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:02
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     ► 
     what we're talking about what the hell 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:08
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     were we talking about 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:10
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     ► 
     we were we were we were we were talking 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:12
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     about ever and medium however serial 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:15
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     ► 
     entrepreneurs and that sort of thing 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:16
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     ► 
     yeah I said but i don't quite get I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:18
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     ► 
     don't get what medium is quite all about 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:20
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     ► 
     but I feel like it i feel like they need 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:22
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     ► 
     to do it I'll get it as more people who 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:25
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     ► 
     are on it use it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:27
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     ► 
     totally i'll pay very close attention so 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:31
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     ► 
     but also blogging really again we're 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:34:34
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     that's right now I'm cloud the thing i 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:36
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     ► 
     saw that help me explain it and and he 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:38
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     ► 
     is end and you know he's like one of my 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:41
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     ► 
     go-to guys that i've been reading since 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:43
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     ► 
     long before i canno and we're talking 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:45
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     ► 
     about me and you blogging for 10 years 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:47
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     ► 
     but like makes me feel like it hasn't 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:49
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     ► 
     even been that long because this guy's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:50
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     ► 
     been at it like when I got started I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:52
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     ► 
     feel like he was already added for a 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:34:54
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     ► 
     Dave want dave winer I saw dave winer on 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:57
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     ► 
     Twitter last night and he's already on 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:58
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     ► 
     medium and has an account and I mean 
     
     
  
 
 
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     literally the guy dave winer arguably 
     
     
  
 
 
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     invented blogging maybe even invented 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:35:06
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     word and I like the guy was writing 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:09
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     blogging software like as like well some 
     
     
  
 
 
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     of us haven't even learned HTML yet in 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the nineties and the way he described it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     was that in medium that you don't you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:24
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     don't put a category on a post you put a 
     
     
  
 
 
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     post you put a post in a category right 
     
     
  
 
 
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     like a centralized category in the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     system which is sort of an interesting 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:36
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     way to think about it you don't just 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:37
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     write a post and tag it Apple there's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:40
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     like an apple category and you can put a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:41
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     post in it and then somebody out there 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:44
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     using it would be surfing the Apple 
     
     
  
 
 
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     category and then they'll see your post 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:47
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     it's not about the individual necessary 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:50
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     it's looking at these buckets of stuff 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:52
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     that if you want to go see I don't know 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:53
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     interesting or new or Apple you can 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:55
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     stroll down and see all of the different 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:56
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     pieces inside of it that makes sense 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:58
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     it's simple that makes sense yeah 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:00
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     something like that I you get what you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:06
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     get you have a macbook pro with retina 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:08
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     display I don't and I knew you'd ask 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:11
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     that and then I have I have I feel bad 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:14
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     because I have seen enough around and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:16
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     then work that it's it's it's easy just 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:19
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     means you're going to say this anyway 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:21
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     but you just see it in your life is 
     
     
  
 
 
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     completely changed and everything else 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:25
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     starts to look just you know not so 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:36:28
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     yeah so that is sort of one of the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:30
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     things that kept me that like had that 
     
     
  
 
 
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     review that I had that kept in the draft 
     
     
  
 
 
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     folder for weeks longer than I had 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:38
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     originally anticipated is this whole 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:40
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     angle of it being a machine and a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:44
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     ► 
     technology that I loved and and I say 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:48
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     that word with no hyperbole that i 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:50
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     absolutely adore it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:52
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     I mean I love it it like strikes my 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:55
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     childlike wonder 
     
     
  
 
 
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     nerd nerve in a way that that nothing 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:03
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     ► 
     like nothing since the original iphone 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:05
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     has but on the other hand it is not the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:08
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     ► 
     machine for me and and I I'd it's like I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:12
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     couldn't square that circle because i 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:15
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     don't want a 15-inch 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:17
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     ► 
     laptop anymore even though it is 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:20
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     ► 
     noticeably thinner and noticeably 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:23
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     ► 
     lighter than any previous 15 inch laptop 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:26
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     ► 
     from apple before I've really gotten 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:29
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     ► 
     used to when i leave the house with a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:31
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     ► 
     computer that was this tiny little 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:33
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     ► 
     sliver of a macbook air right 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:36
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     ► 
     what is your should notice but what is 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:39
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     ► 
     your what is your desktop setup because 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:41
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     ► 
     I'm wrestling with the same thing right 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:42
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     ► 
     now is I've got the cheese grater right 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:43
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     ► 
     here on the floor and I've got the 30 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:45
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     ► 
     inch and I about the 27-inch next to it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:48
     ◼
      
     ► 
     so we've got some pixels with some 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:49
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     ► 
     serious pixel here my my desktop setup 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:52
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     ► 
     is totally janky it really it's it's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:55
     ◼
      
     ► 
     ridiculous it's it's an old it actually 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:58
     ◼
      
     ► 
     is a 15-inch macbook pro but I don't use 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:38:01
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     ► 
     it as a macbook pro it's a macbook pro 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:38:03
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     ► 
     that never leaves the desk and I don't 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:38:05
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     ► 
     use the built-in display on driving a 20 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:38:09
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     ► 
     inch mirror a measly little 20 and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:38:12
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     ► 
     cinema display might the macbook pro my 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:38:15
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     ► 
     desk is sold that it has the grace the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:38:18
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     ► 
     gray keyboard not the black keyboard but 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:38:20
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     ► 
     what is your upgrade for that because 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:38:22
     ◼
      
     ► 
     this is the one and i feel like my 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:38:23
     ◼
      
     ► 
     upgrade this is it this is the thing is 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:38:25
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     ► 
     that my upgrade is I wanted to be a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:38:28
     ◼
      
     ► 
     retina imac right and I don't want to 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:38:31
     ◼
      
     ► 
     buy an imac that's not retina and I sort 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:38:34
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     ► 
     of had it as a vague thought before and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:38:36
     ◼
      
     ► 
     now that I've seen an actual retina 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:38:38
     ◼
      
     ► 
     display its mike adamant like I can't 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:38:42
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     ► 
     imagine buying a new any new mac that's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:38:44
     ◼
      
     ► 
     not a retina right I can't imagine i 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:38:46
     ◼
      
     ► 
     actually left when i left the WWDC 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:38:49
     ◼
      
     ► 
     keynote this year in june i was very 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:38:53
     ◼
      
     ► 
     excited about the retina macbook pro but 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:38:56
     ◼
      
     ► 
     i also thought well now they've they've 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:38:58
     ◼
      
     ► 
     updated the heirs and I my air my 11 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:01
     ◼
      
     ► 
     chair is two years old my god it's from 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:04
     ◼
      
     ► 
     2010 and it's the the last one that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:08
     ◼
      
     ► 
     Apple made that doesn't have a light up 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:10
     ◼
      
     ► 
     keyboard right if you remember in 2010 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:12
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     ► 
     the 11-inch didn't have a light up 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:14
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     ► 
     keyboard a 13-inch tube and and then 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:17
     ◼
      
     ► 
     they came out with a 2011 update that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:20
     ◼
      
     ► 
     was a real nice update and I skipped 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:22
     ◼
      
     ► 
     because i just bought the previous 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:23
     ◼
      
     ► 
     generation and now I felt like leaving 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:25
     ◼
      
     ► 
     the keynote I thought well now it's two 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:26
     ◼
      
     ► 
     generations after mine the thing only 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:29
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     ► 
     cost a thousand bucks 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:30
     ◼
      
     ► 
     I'm sure I can you know find someone 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:34
     ◼
      
     ► 
     else to take this two-year-old 1 i'll 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:37
     ◼
      
     ► 
     get it and I left the keynotes excited 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:40
     ◼
      
     ► 
     about the retina macbook pro been 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:41
     ◼
      
     ► 
     thinking hey I should quick jump on 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:43
     ◼
      
     ► 
     Apple that common pre-order a brand-new 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:45
     ◼
      
     ► 
     11-inch air to replace this one right 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:48
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     ► 
     I really I honestly was thinking maybe 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:50
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     ► 
     you know I would 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:51
     ◼
      
     ► 
     quick preorder one immediately sight 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:53
     ◼
      
     ► 
     unseen just quick preorder one and I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:56
     ◼
      
     ► 
     didn't I waited and then the longer i 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:58
     ◼
      
     ► 
     use the retina 15-inch macbook pro that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:40:00
     ◼
      
     ► 
     Apple loan me as a review unit and now I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:40:03
     ◼
      
     ► 
     I can't bring myself to do it and I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:40:05
     ◼
      
     ► 
     cannot spend money on a machine that's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:40:07
     ◼
      
     ► 
     not it doesn't have a Retina display 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:40:09
     ◼
      
     ► 
     so you're gonna do the imac if and when 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:40:12
     ◼
      
     ► 
     it ever comes out as your desktop that's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:40:14
     ◼
      
     ► 
     going to be your desktop machine that's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:40:16
     ◼
      
     ► 
     what I'm might in theory what I would 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:40:17
     ◼
      
     ► 
     love to do is get a retina Brian if if 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:40:21
     ◼
      
     ► 
     though if Apple were to ship cinema 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:40:25
     ◼
      
     ► 
     displays with retina just retina right 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:40:28
     ◼
      
     ► 
     and quality then i would buy one of 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:40:30
     ◼
      
     ► 
     those and I don't know I guess get a mac 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:40:32
     ◼
      
     ► 
     pro or or Mac Mini or something to drive 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:40:36
     ◼
      
     ► 
     yeah I think that's the move because i 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:40:38
     ◼
      
     ► 
     feel like i'm wondering if i'm going to 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:40:40
     ◼
      
     ► 
     go to a completely mobile solution but i 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:40:42
     ◼
      
     ► 
     have the same quantity which is I fly a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:40:44
     ◼
      
     ► 
     lot and the only thing to take on a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:40:47
     ◼
      
     ► 
     plane is an error 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:40:48
     ◼
      
     ► 
     there's just no doubt in my mind that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:40:50
     ◼
      
     ► 
     it's it's it's easy to slide in the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:40:52
     ◼
      
     ► 
     thing that's the chair in front of me 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:40:54
     ◼
      
     ► 
     it's light it's the right size and when 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:40:57
     ◼
      
     ► 
     you're in one of those airports that has 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:40:59
     ◼
      
     ► 
     like a hundred and twenty-two and not 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:03
     ◼
      
     ► 
     called terminals like where they called 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:04
     ◼
      
     ► 
     gates I got in 20 and you you like all 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:07
     ◼
      
     ► 
     right you get through security and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:09
     ◼
      
     ► 
     you're like in an unfamiliar airport 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:11
     ◼
      
     ► 
     you're like all right I've got gate ab7 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:13
     ◼
      
     ► 
     where am i and you look up and it says 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:15
     ◼
      
     ► 
     gate to right here like ah Christ you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:20
     ◼
      
     ► 
     get when you get to gate e7 if you're 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:22
     ◼
      
     ► 
     not in the era of the macbook air you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:24
     ◼
      
     ► 
     don't feel like like you're one shoulder 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:27
     ◼
      
     ► 
     hurts and your other one doesn't write 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:28
     ◼
      
     ► 
     exactly used to like it used to be like 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:30
     ◼
      
     ► 
     now if you know I feel like I'm you know 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:32
     ◼
      
     ► 
     doing manual labor here I feel like one 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:34
     ◼
      
     ► 
     too much you know one of my shoulders is 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:36
     ◼
      
     ► 
     ready to fall off right it is addictive 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:40
     ◼
      
     ► 
     the lightweight and you know if 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:42
     ◼
      
     ► 
     you know it if you're not and I guess if 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:45
     ◼
      
     ► 
     you're in first class you know you can 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:47
     ◼
      
     ► 
     you can even set up an imac up there but 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:50
     ◼
      
     ► 
     in a regular which see it is it it is an 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:54
     ◼
      
     ► 
     enormous advantage to have a macbook air 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:57
     ◼
      
     ► 
     well even even in first class that i'm 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:58
     ◼
      
     ► 
     doing a lot but it's still it's just 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:00
     ◼
      
     ► 
     it's for me it's a nice trade-off 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:02
     ◼
      
     ► 
     between enough screen real estate the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:04
     ◼
      
     ► 
     moving it around but also you know just 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:08
     ◼
      
     ► 
     the perfect size keyboard there's that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:10
     ◼
      
     ► 
     the the smaller keyboard i know there's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:12
     ◼
      
     ► 
     a lot of folks like that really really 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:13
     ◼
      
     ► 
     small some form factor is just drives me 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:15
     ◼
      
     ► 
     a little bit crazy so I it's the perfect 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:17
     ◼
      
     ► 
     it's the perfect size for me on the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:19
     ◼
      
     ► 
     travel and I so I you know I in theory 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:24
     ◼
      
     ► 
     like a and you know I'm two years from 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:28
     ◼
      
     ► 
     now I i assume that this will be no 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:31
     ◼
      
     ► 
     problem and i'll have it all is well 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:32
     ◼
      
     ► 
     have a Retina imac wearing a desk in my 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:34
     ◼
      
     ► 
     office and a retina 11-inch macbook air 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:38
     ◼
      
     ► 
     right I take with me everywhere else too 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:41
     ◼
      
     ► 
     huh is it multiple times 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:43
     ◼
      
     ► 
     no one monitor I i had multiple monitor 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:47
     ◼
      
     ► 
     thing I had it years ago 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:49
     ◼
      
     ► 
     last time i had like a real office job 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:51
     ◼
      
     ► 
     but I worked at bare-bones software i 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:53
     ◼
      
     ► 
     had multiple monitors and I did 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:56
     ◼
      
     ► 
     appreciate it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:57
     ◼
      
     ► 
     I know exactly you know what people are 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:59
     ◼
      
     ► 
     talking about 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:00
     ◼
      
     ► 
     ah but it doesn't really well I don't 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:04
     ◼
      
     ► 
     know it doesn't really work for me do 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:05
     ◼
      
     ► 
     you do the whole expose whatever always 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:07
     ◼
      
     ► 
     forget what it's called this this year 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:09
     ◼
      
     ► 
     do you do multiple debt virtual desktops 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:11
     ◼
      
     ► 
     sometimes sometimes especially like from 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:15
     ◼
      
     ► 
     like when I'm writing a big article is 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:17
     ◼
      
     ► 
     out the spaces right and i'll put I have 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:21
     ◼
      
     ► 
     everything in space everything is space 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:22
     ◼
      
     ► 
     one except space to is only the the the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:28
     ◼
      
     ► 
     BB a document i'm typing in and the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:31
     ◼
      
     ► 
     Safari windows that are specific Lee 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:34
     ◼
      
     ► 
     opened for that article right that I've 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:37
     ◼
      
     ► 
     got like his research and then i can say 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:39
     ◼
      
     ► 
     space to is is the stuff I'm working on 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:42
     ◼
      
     ► 
     for the article but it's funny though 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:44
     ◼
      
     ► 
     because like i've noticed this the last 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:47
     ◼
      
     ► 
     two days because the last two days I've 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:49
     ◼
      
     ► 
     spent writing these articles is 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:51
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     that i'll start out and it seems perfect 
     
     
  
 
 
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     for space to only has two windows BB a 
     
     
  
 
 
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     document and one safari window with two 
     
     
  
 
 
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     tabs by the time i'm done i've got like 
     
     
  
 
 
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     seven Safari windows each with four tabs 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:07
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     open over there losses many Safari 
     
     
  
 
 
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     windows is the front and the whole thing 
     
     
  
 
 
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     is just as big a jumble is my space 
     
     
  
 
 
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     number one right but it is a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:15
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     partitioning way as I did the same thing 
     
     
  
 
 
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     its that's what am I focusing on and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:19
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     where am i doing research I have another 
     
     
  
 
 
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     one which is basically distractions 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:23
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     right so if I'm like taking a mental 
     
     
  
 
 
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     break its that window that has twitter 
     
     
  
 
 
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     in whatever other things are kind of 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:28
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     sitting by my desktop so one of the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     reasons i ask you about the render 
     
     
  
 
 
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     display name 
     
     
  
 
 
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     yeah is is that like one of the ways 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that you and I are very much alike is is 
     
     
  
 
 
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     a a relentless pursuit of perfection in 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and to an obsessive obsessively detailed 
     
     
  
 
 
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     degree correct on and and the retina 
     
     
  
 
 
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     display enables that right right like I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     mean you've at least you you like loaded 
     
     
  
 
 
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     up your website in a Retina display 
     
     
  
 
 
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     oh no the night I had this actually 
     
     
  
 
 
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     looking at your side at one point this 
     
     
  
 
 
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     is before the retina macbook came out 
     
     
  
 
 
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     was and reading my logo right because I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     don't logo years ago and I suddenly 
     
     
  
 
 
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     looked at it as on the ipad ipad 2 and I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:20
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     was like what the hell happened right as 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:22
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     well as if suddenly all of those jaggies 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and all of that like that that stuff 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that's lost on their regular displays 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:29
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     was suddenly this in my face and it was 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:30
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     it looked awful unlike is everybody 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:33
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     looking at this for the last 10 years 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:34
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     right so that was my first like moment 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:37
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     like oh the game is different regarding 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:40
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     how are actually going to have to have 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:42
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     our images and what our fonts are gonna 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:43
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     look like I i noticed and i noticed this 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:46
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     last week because it will there is a day 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:47
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     and and i hope to write about it soon is 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:50
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     and it took me as always with anything 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:54
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     like this aid a way more time that I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:57
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     thought it would I upgraded the fav icon 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:00
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     ► 
     daring fireball last week on 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:03
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     and for a couple of reasons but it took 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:06
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     me way longer than i thought it would 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:07
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     but i upgraded it and and mainly to to 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:13
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     rectify it right and i did notice and as 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:17
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     I was doing it and went around the web 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:18
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     and tried to see well who else has a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:19
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     ► 
     retina quality fabric on marine ran 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:22
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     ► 
     trans has a retina fav icon i noticed 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:26
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     ► 
     that because and it is one of those 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:27
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     things were when you're surfing you look 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:29
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     ► 
     at your website on the retina macbook 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:31
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     ► 
     pro and if you don't you look up at the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:33
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     ► 
     URL and you see that that little little 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:36
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     ► 
     time fav icon but it's not retina just 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:38
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     ► 
     like oh that's not gonna work just 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:40
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     ► 
     sentence right yeah it does yeah exactly 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:43
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     ► 
     it looks like somebody fax it to you and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:48
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     ► 
     it's like immediately it was like it was 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:50
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     ► 
     like pain in my heart it was like I get 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:53
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     ► 
     this hurts me it hurts me as though I'm 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:56
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     ► 
     I'm listening to somebody insult my wife 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:47:01
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     ► 
     alright it hurts me because my beloved 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:05
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     ► 
     daring fireball fav icon now looks like 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:07
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     ► 
     a complete looks like looks like a piece 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:11
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     ► 
     of paper the wet piece of paper I just 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:13
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     ► 
     peeled off my shoe 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:14
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     ► 
     I've got to fix this but there aren't a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:18
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     ► 
     lot of resources online for how to make 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:21
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     ► 
     a retina quality fabric on its its its 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:26
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     ► 
     do you know and you know it and it's a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:27
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     ► 
     lot of SEO crap like the SEO crap for 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:30
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     ► 
     how to make a fav icon dominates the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:33
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     ► 
     search results yeah that's why I want to 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:34
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     ► 
     write about it you know but I knew that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:36
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     ► 
     you've got it but the other thing too 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:38
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     ► 
     and i wrote about this in my review is 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:41
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     ► 
     that I and this is where your way way 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:44
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     ► 
     ahead of me your way at me in and i'm 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:47
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     ► 
     way behind the times is that on on the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:50
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     ► 
     retina macbook pro and I think it's true 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:54
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     ► 
     for the iphone and the ipad 2 but I feel 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:58
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     ► 
     like it r is is even more prominent on 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:02
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     ► 
     the retina Mac I that you that did it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:08
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     ► 
     it's so much like print quality outlet 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:12
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     ► 
     that you want real fonts the on-screen 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:14
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     ► 
     funds and you've switched I've 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:17
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     ► 
     I don't know when but you've switched 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:18
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     ► 
     this year to ideal sands from a muffler 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:25
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     ► 
     and for Jones um it was around the time 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:29
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     ► 
     of the 10-year anniversary's want to 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:30
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     ► 
     switch into your credit the idea to even 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:33
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     ► 
     like consider this idea was was from you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:35
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     ► 
     you i gotta i was flying and I landed 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:39
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     ► 
     and I got this rapid text or tweet or 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:42
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     ► 
     something from you you're like oh my god 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:44
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     ► 
     ideal sands got a big i think it was 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:47
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     ► 
     distance so that the inception is is 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:49
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     ► 
     from you although i have i have turned 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:51
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     ► 
     it on and it's beautiful it's gorgeous 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:55
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     ► 
     I'd literally it literally to your to 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:57
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     ► 
     your point is when I first loaded up on 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:59
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     ► 
     the ipad 2 with all I else and I of 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:02
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     ► 
     Sentinel izi as a headline and it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:05
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     ► 
     I feel like there's the world is a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:07
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     ► 
     better place right i mean it i did 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:09
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     ► 
     there's order and there's there's beauty 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:11
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     ► 
     and its I can't describe the feeling of 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:13
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     ► 
     actually seeing great typography on the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:16
     ◼
      
     ► 
     blog I didn't I'd only really upgrade i 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:19
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     ► 
     did a couple other nips and tucks but 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:21
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     ► 
     only upgraded the typography the whole 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:24
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     ► 
     layout as the same but it feels to me 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:26
     ◼
      
     ► 
     whenever I see it feels like a brand-new 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:28
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     ► 
     side it it looks great on a non retina 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:32
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     ► 
     display a great fun and and one of the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:34
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     ► 
     reasons and and I think it's super 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:36
     ◼
      
     ► 
     interesting the the hfj web fonts to my 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:42
     ◼
      
     ► 
     knowledge are only in its not publicly 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:45
     ◼
      
     ► 
     available the only three sites i know of 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:48
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     ► 
     that have the hfj web fonts are you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:54
     ◼
      
     ► 
     Jason cocky and and proc Obama like 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:02
     ◼
      
     ► 
     that's pretty good company 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:04
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     ► 
     you cocky and and Obama yeah it's not 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:08
     ◼
      
     ► 
     like that it was one of the reasons why 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:10
     ◼
      
     ► 
     is that it is you talk to these guys 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:12
     ◼
      
     ► 
     talk to anybody who's working on 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:14
     ◼
      
     ► 
     distributing web fonts and it is really 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:19
     ◼
      
     ► 
     hard it is it's super simple it's as 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:21
     ◼
      
     ► 
     simple as linking to anything like in 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:23
     ◼
      
     ► 
     reg or a style sheet or anything on the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:26
     ◼
      
     ► 
     web to get one working get web phones 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:50:29
     ◼
      
     ► 
     technically right and it is incredibly 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:33
     ◼
      
     ► 
     hard and painstaking and glyph by glyph 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:38
     ◼
      
     ► 
     requires all of this and drawn work 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:42
     ◼
      
     ► 
     yeah get them to look good 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:46
     ◼
      
     ► 
     everywhere meaning on the mac on iOS on 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:50
     ◼
      
     ► 
     Android and what's the the other the the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:57
     ◼
      
     ► 
     OS four pcs from Microsoft alright is it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:01
     ◼
      
     ► 
     but i totally don't know I've been 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:03
     ◼
      
     ► 
     ignoring microsoft were so remember that 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:51:08
     ◼
      
     ► 
     christ almighty it's on like ninety 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:10
     ◼
      
     ► 
     percent of all computers in the world 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:12
     ◼
      
     ► 
     anyway whatever its called 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:16
     ◼
      
     ► 
     it's really really hard to get web fonts 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:18
     ◼
      
     ► 
     that look good there because they use 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:20
     ◼
      
     ► 
     the all these different platforms use 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:22
     ◼
      
     ► 
     different anti-aliasing algorithms they 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:24
     ◼
      
     ► 
     have different software that actually 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:25
     ◼
      
     ► 
     renders the the outlines into bitmaps 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:28
     ◼
      
     ► 
     that helped push them to pixels on 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:30
     ◼
      
     ► 
     screen and these guys you know you do 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:34
     ◼
      
     ► 
     you think like me guys like me and you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:36
     ◼
      
     ► 
     sweat the details enfants it's like the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:38
     ◼
      
     ► 
     guys who actually make fonts like it you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:42
     ◼
      
     ► 
     know it's amazing that they can even get 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:43
     ◼
      
     ► 
     out of bed because they you know they 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:46
     ◼
      
     ► 
     really really sweat the details on and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:48
     ◼
      
     ► 
     they notice things like when one side of 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:51
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     ► 
     uppercase M is a half a pixel thicker 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:56
     ◼
      
     ► 
     than the other side when it's rendered 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:58
     ◼
      
     ► 
     on this browser on this platform and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:02
     ◼
      
     ► 
     that's what's taking so long for all 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:04
     ◼
      
     ► 
     these guys to get you know to get these 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:06
     ◼
      
     ► 
     fonts out as web front-end the other 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:08
     ◼
      
     ► 
     thing for hf and Jade in particular i 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:10
     ◼
      
     ► 
     believe is that they're also just super 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:13
     ◼
      
     ► 
     concerned with with you know making sure 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:15
     ◼
      
     ► 
     that it's it's fairly license they don't 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:17
     ◼
      
     ► 
     want right fonts out in the open so 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:19
     ◼
      
     ► 
     right there really obsessive about that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:21
     ◼
      
     ► 
     which i think is absolutely the right 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:23
     ◼
      
     ► 
     thing to do it's so easy to to steal 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:26
     ◼
      
     ► 
     upon if you will and did their work is 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:29
     ◼
      
     ► 
     mean as you just described it's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:31
     ◼
      
     ► 
     painstaking work no one ever looks at 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:33
     ◼
      
     ► 
     fonts they do not see any of the work 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:35
     ◼
      
     ► 
     involved and actually pulling it off and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:37
     ◼
      
     ► 
     who stares at a set of letters and goes 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:52:40
     ◼
      
     ► 
     note that ? is like a work of art in 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:42
     ◼
      
     ► 
     itself it times up by the entire 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:45
     ◼
      
     ► 
     character set you're talking about a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:46
     ◼
      
     ► 
     massive amount of work and I and I think 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:49
     ◼
      
     ► 
     one of the things are tweaking and why 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:51
     ◼
      
     ► 
     it's not this is my opinion out there 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:53
     ◼
      
     ► 
     two more people is they're just making 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:55
     ◼
      
     ► 
     sure that it's it's rock-solid in terms 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:56
     ◼
      
     ► 
     of importance of protecting their their 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:58
     ◼
      
     ► 
     hard work right 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:00
     ◼
      
     ► 
     absolutely and but you really the bottom 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:04
     ◼
      
     ► 
     line now is that this this transition 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:07
     ◼
      
     ► 
     from only using the fonts that are 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:09
     ◼
      
     ► 
     available by default with the one they 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:12
     ◼
      
     ► 
     call the website fonts right you know 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:14
     ◼
      
     ► 
     their users like this list of like you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:15
     ◼
      
     ► 
     know 15 fonts that are available on mac 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:18
     ◼
      
     ► 
     and windows and android or whatever i 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:22
     ◼
      
     ► 
     guess android doesn't have any font 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:23
     ◼
      
     ► 
     androids got like serif and sans serif 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:26
     ◼
      
     ► 
     or something like that was terrible but 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:27
     ◼
      
     ► 
     you know there's the website fonts that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:29
     ◼
      
     ► 
     everybody is known from 1997 onward and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:32
     ◼
      
     ► 
     it's like you know the bottom line is 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:34
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     like you're either picking times 
     
     
  
 
 
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     verdanna or Georgia for fonz and now you 
     
     
  
 
 
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     know with the web fun thing you can pick 
     
     
  
 
 
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     any of these fonts and there's typekit 
     
     
  
 
 
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     which as you know like a whole bunch of 
     
     
  
 
 
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     funds from adobe and and other great 
     
     
  
 
 
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     indian browsers are type vendors and 
     
     
  
 
 
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     they look good on anywhere and it's 
     
     
  
 
 
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     because they've spent a lot of time to 
     
     
  
 
 
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     make sure they look at my god did they 
     
     
  
 
 
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     look good you look great on the retina 
     
     
  
 
 
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     display there's only there's only one 
     
     
  
 
 
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     complaint and I don't know if you have 
     
     
  
 
 
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     like a huge amount of people that are 
     
     
  
 
 
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     listening to us at this point but 
     
     
  
 
 
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     there's a load issue and it's not just a 
     
     
  
 
 
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     challenge a solution i've seen it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     elsewhere there's a and maybe it's a 
     
     
  
 
 
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     browser issue but there's a double load 
     
     
  
 
 
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     issue when you first load the page you 
     
     
  
 
 
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     first you get a render and then there's 
     
     
  
 
 
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     a second render it doesn't really line 
     
     
  
 
 
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     it doesn't really flow the page but when 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the fonts are actually loading so 
     
     
  
 
 
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     there's this eighth of a second half of 
     
     
  
 
 
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     a second where you get the correct 
     
     
  
 
 
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     geometry with like but all the bulleted 
     
     
  
 
 
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     mean that underlines and whatnot and the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     typefaces have it loaded yet and then it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     shows up the fast machine the slower 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I mean that faster the Machine the less 
     
     
  
 
 
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     of lag there that's the only thing that 
     
     
  
 
 
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     like bugs me is like this second or so 
     
     
  
 
 
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     we're still loading it doesn't come in 
     
     
  
 
 
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     as one doesn't come in as one just 
     
     
  
 
 
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     render the page 
     
     
  
 
 
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     minor thing you're going to notice 
     
     
  
 
 
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     you're going to be trying this on at 
     
     
  
 
 
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     some point and you're gonna be it's 
     
     
  
 
 
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     gonna be four in the morning and you're 
     
     
  
 
 
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     going to be like just about done you're 
     
     
  
 
 
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     going to go into an ipad 2 and you're 
     
     
  
 
 
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     reloading like how much load thing I'm 
     
     
  
 
 
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     just telling you now I'm saving you some 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     i think it's i don't think it's a hnj 
     
     
  
 
 
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     thing I think it's a think it's a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:55:11
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     browser issue right now and there's a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:55:14
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     phrase for it like it's like a lingo 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:55:16
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     ► 
     it's like the flash before something i 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:55:20
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     don't know i add something area so 
     
     
  
 
 
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     ridiculously early in the morning for me 
     
     
  
 
 
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     i cannot be but there-there it i know 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that i've seen it and every other people 
     
     
  
 
 
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     have commented on it and i also know 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that a big there's a big deal like in 
     
     
  
 
 
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     terms of the latency but switching from 
     
     
  
 
 
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     using built-in fonts to web phone right 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:55:38
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     that it it really affects people who are 
     
     
  
 
 
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     on high latency connection yet like for 
     
     
  
 
 
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     example all of our friends down in New 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Zealand right which you know is like 
     
     
  
 
 
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     isolated and sort of has like a crappy 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:55:51
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     connection to the rest of the entire 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:55:53
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     ► 
     internet right I i know that that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:55:58
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     depending on where your how you're 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:00
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     ► 
     serving your websites where you're 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:01
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     ► 
     getting them from that that delay 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:04
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     ► 
     between the initial page render and when 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:06
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     ► 
     the actual phone kicks in is is even 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:08
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     ► 
     worse down there 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:09
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     ► 
     I've had one complaint from folks about 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:11
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     ► 
     it i haven't had one there was some 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:12
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     ► 
     someone running some bizarre butu blah 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:16
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     ► 
     blah blah and that had a complete but 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:18
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     ► 
     everyone else is this was I was worried 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:20
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     ► 
     that there was some part of the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:21
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     ► 
     demographic there was gonna be some 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:23
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     ► 
     technology some browser i wasn't able to 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:25
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     ► 
     support had one complaint and it was 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:27
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     ► 
     completely edge case a linux 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:30
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     ► 
     distribution which was satisfying for me 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:32
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     ► 
     I felt like I was a little bit ahead of 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:34
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     ► 
     the times but it's not it's not at all 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:37
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     ► 
     we've already blown past the hour mark 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:38
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     ► 
     and I promised bunch of people that the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:40
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     ► 
     show would only be an hour long but 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:42
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     ► 
     right we're gonna we're gonna head 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:43
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     ► 
     towards the finish working towards the 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:56:46
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     ► 
     let me do the second sponsor read going 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:48
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     ► 
     in and then we've got a couple of other 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:49
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     ► 
     things i want to cover before before I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:51
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     ► 
     let you go on and our second sponsor it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:54
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     ► 
     this to me is is serendipity 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:57
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     ► 
     this is a delightful one-two punch of 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:59
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     ► 
     sponsors uh is our second sponsor is a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:04
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     ► 
     photo delight 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:06
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     ► 
     it's an app for the iPad from from our 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:09
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     ► 
     friends at global delight a photo 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:12
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     ► 
     delight is a photo colorizing app for 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:17
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     ► 
     iPad so you got our first sponsor heelys 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:20
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     ► 
     all about black and white photography 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:22
     ◼
      
     ► 
     now we've got an ipad app that's all 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:25
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     ► 
     about color photography on the ipad i 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:28
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     ► 
     feel lied to me that serendipity 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:30
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     ► 
     I mean that's this to me is is is a sign 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:32
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     ► 
     that the universe works now 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:36
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     ► 
     photo delight lets you create a really 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:39
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     ► 
     cool pictures out of ordinary snapshots 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:42
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     ► 
     and it's got just really they've got 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:45
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     ► 
     they call it smart touch that lets you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:47
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     ► 
     adjust your photo with you know just by 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:51
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     ► 
     touching it in and put your finger on 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:53
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     ► 
     spots and I you can do color spill you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:58
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     ► 
     just put color right there and it's real 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:00
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     ► 
     smart about what it does as you touch 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:02
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     ► 
     the photo it detects the color you want 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:04
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     ► 
     to highlight by your touch on that part 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:07
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     ► 
     of the image and it continues to reveal 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:09
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     ► 
     only that color in the image wherever 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:12
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     ► 
     else you move your finger without 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:14
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     ► 
     lifting it and you could produce is 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:18
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     ► 
     really really amazing footage you have 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:20
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     ► 
     to kind of do you have to try it to see 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:22
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     ► 
     what i mean but it really produces 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:23
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     ► 
     striking images without spending a lot 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:58:27
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     ► 
     zooming in and the racing and stuff like 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:31
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     ► 
     that it's it's it's just a really quick 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:34
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     ► 
     way with just a couple of quick taps on 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:37
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     ► 
     the parts of the photo you want to 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:38
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     ► 
     highlight to really really make it super 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:40
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     ► 
     vibrant and you know more or less more 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:58:45
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     ► 
     it's one of my that we just the wife and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:48
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     ► 
     I just went to Yellowstone with the kids 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:50
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     ► 
     and literally eighty percent of time on 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:55
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     ► 
     the iphone is sitting there between the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:57
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     ► 
     two of us battling on Instagram and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:00
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     ► 
     seriously and she's better than I am by 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:03
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     ► 
     the way just so everyone knows but it's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:05
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     ► 
     a it's because I've got a set of 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:09
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     ► 
     photo editing apps that we have and that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:11
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     ► 
     in the goal for each of us is what 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:13
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     ► 
     combination of these apps and they're in 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:15
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     ► 
     their set of features can we use to like 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:17
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     ► 
     outdo the other person this is sitting 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:19
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     ► 
     in bed at nine doing photo processing 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:21
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     ► 
     right who would have imagined right I've 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:24
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     ► 
     got an entire page 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:27
     ◼
      
     ► 
     why don't you come home screen p.m. on 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:29
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     ► 
     my iphone that is just for diddling a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:32
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     ► 
     picture that's gonna go to Instagram 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:34
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     ► 
     photo delight for the ipad no it means 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:38
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     ► 
     the highlights the new version is to 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:40
     ◼
      
     ► 
     point out let me just there's the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:41
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     ► 
     highlights and we just read these 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:42
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     ► 
     highlights is great gorgeous UI for the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:45
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     ► 
     retina display check totally agree it is 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:47
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     ► 
     absolutely pixel-perfect on the retina 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:49
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     ► 
     iPad in parentheses 3i they're 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:53
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     ► 
     intelligent smart touch ensuring that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:56
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     ► 
     that the parts of the photo you touch 
     
     
  
 
 
 
 
	 01:00:00
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     ► 
     the parts that get highlighted you get 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:02
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     ► 
     to color eyes photos of up to 20 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:00:05
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     ► 
     I mean I don't even know where you're 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:06
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     ► 
     going to get 20 megapixel pictures onto 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:08
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     ► 
     the iphone ipad but that's what it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:09
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     ► 
     supports up to so you're all set 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:11
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     ► 
     brush settings accidental stroke 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:14
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     ► 
     correction options pinch pan gestures 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:16
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     ► 
     for finer adjustments its integrated 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:19
     ◼
      
     ► 
     with iOS's Twitter and Facebook sharing 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:22
     ◼
      
     ► 
     you can share to flickr you can share 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:24
     ◼
      
     ► 
     the photobucket or by email you can send 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:27
     ◼
      
     ► 
     it anywhere you want and they've got a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:29
     ◼
      
     ► 
     contest they've got a contest where 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:31
     ◼
      
     ► 
     there's a photo colorizing contest share 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:33
     ◼
      
     ► 
     a pic when a gift where a user can 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:35
     ◼
      
     ► 
     participate to win a twenty-dollar 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:36
     ◼
      
     ► 
     itunes gift card and you can find more 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:40
     ◼
      
     ► 
     details on their website at 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:42
     ◼
      
     ► 
     www.google.com global delight calm and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:49
     ◼
      
     ► 
     their app is called photo delight and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:50
     ◼
      
     ► 
     you can find out more about the contest 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:52
     ◼
      
     ► 
     there and buy it by the app for the iPad 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:54
     ◼
      
     ► 
     and and I recommend it completely it's a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:58
     ◼
      
     ► 
     great great app you know your wife your 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:02
     ◼
      
     ► 
     wife's Instagram account to me is almost 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:05
     ◼
      
     ► 
     like a fake Instagram account where it's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:08
     ◼
      
     ► 
     like it's like the the like like that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:12
     ◼
      
     ► 
     the account that Instagram would show in 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:15
     ◼
      
     ► 
     the appstore screenshots for what do you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:18
     ◼
      
     ► 
     do with instagram because it's it's all 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:21
     ◼
      
     ► 
     of these like scenic landscapes right 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:24
     ◼
      
     ► 
     and and I I don't know what she does i 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:28
     ◼
      
     ► 
     don't know if if she's got like her own 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:31
     ◼
      
     ► 
     personal jet airplane but it's like all 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:33
     ◼
      
     ► 
     of a sudden it's like here's one where 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:35
     ◼
      
     ► 
     it's like trees and woods and mountains 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:37
     ◼
      
     ► 
     and Michael that's I think that's word 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:39
     ◼
      
     ► 
     and that's where the lobsters live right 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:41
     ◼
      
     ► 
     and the next one is like a desert 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:42
     ◼
      
     ► 
     landscape and the next one is like the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:44
     ◼
      
     ► 
     ocean and the next one is is it it it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:49
     ◼
      
     ► 
     they're all over the place 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:50
     ◼
      
     ► 
     I don't know how I don't know how it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:51
     ◼
      
     ► 
     happened I don't know where how she's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:53
     ◼
      
     ► 
     getting we live in Santa Cruz Mountains 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:55
     ◼
      
     ► 
     in California and there's lots of the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:57
     ◼
      
     ► 
     the coasters I'm looking out the window 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:59
     ◼
      
     ► 
     right now I can see the Pacific Ocean 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:00
     ◼
      
     ► 
     we're in the middle of a redwood forest 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:02
     ◼
      
     ► 
     and there's lots of diversity so but the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:05
     ◼
      
     ► 
     larger point is she's really fucking 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:07
     ◼
      
     ► 
     good at this 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:07
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     because you know we obviously like how 
     
     
  
 
 
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     many likes you get 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:13
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     that a right and she's got a far less 
     
     
  
 
 
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     than me but ratio wise and just kicking 
     
     
  
 
 
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     my ass I'm kicking my ass and she's all 
     
     
  
 
 
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     its in i think i think i will I not 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:23
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     she's not gonna hear this because I'm 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:24
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     not gonna tell her about that i'm doing 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:26
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     the show by the way if you can hear this 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:28
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     is I think what she's good at and is in 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:31
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     its it's an important thing is if you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:32
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     look at the rands the Rams instagrams I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:35
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     go for like high contrast and deep 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:38
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     colors i think my composition is ok but 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:41
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     she goes with subtle right and it's in 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:43
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     its I don't do so because i feel like i 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:45
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     need to like turn up the knobs and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:46
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     whatever direction as loud as she's very 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:48
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     good at like finding a great great great 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:51
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     look and then just make this subtle 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:53
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     changes supposed to like throw down the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:55
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     Gotham or whatever you know intense you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:57
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     know saturation that randy was going for 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:59
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     I i think that you and I are more or 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:02
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     less on par photography quality-wise 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:04
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     where you and I can take some pictures 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:06
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     are like wow that's pretty cool for a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:08
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     picture you took with your phone right 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:09
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     your wife though is that she takes 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:12
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     picture of my cum on you took that with 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:13
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     your iphone you've gotta be kidding 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:15
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     you gotta be kidding me I i don't think 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:19
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     i could get a picture like that out of 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:20
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     my I 2500 dollar can 5d you're not 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:25
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     telling her this is everyone else that's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:27
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     not too can't hear this because I'm but 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:29
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     she does and and you can vouch for that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:31
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     she takes those pictures with the iphone 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:33
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     it's all iphone she wasn't having it I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:34
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     do i do in my heart I do think she 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:36
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     cheats i think because i think there's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:38
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     one there's one cheat 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:40
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     she took a picture with the kids at one 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:41
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     point I'm saying know that her pictures 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:43
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     every single day look like all iphone 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:45
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     sweater gun when it's going to talk 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:51
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     about their you know what I want to talk 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:53
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     about is a little bit on the website 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:56
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     that you surprised that Apple isn't 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:01
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     using web plans yet on the website 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:03
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     yeah i'm loading it just to make sure 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:07
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     that they didn't do it this morning 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:08
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     because you know that would be funny you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:12
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     know it's you know I used to work at 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:15
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     Apple um it's just about to ask you the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:18
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     convention you always have to ask after 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:20
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     you have to double-check with anybody 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:23
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     um yeah the website i gotta happen it's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:29
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     gotta happen eventually and the same is 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:31
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     true for me though maybe it's just as 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:33
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     surprising that i'm not using web fonts 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:35
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     yet the plane with the website for me 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:37
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     even when we were there is it's like in 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:41
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     tonight my friends run it so I can you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:43
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     know rip on him cuz they're my friends 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:44
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     but it's it's a beautiful beautiful 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:46
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     sight is it is it's gorgeous sight but 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:49
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     if you go look at it i mean there's this 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:51
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     isn't an application if you go like view 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:52
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     the source the amount of technology 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:55
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     behind the site is pretty low like when 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:57
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     you login to apple.com and answers you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:59
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     don't I mean you can go to store and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:00
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     that's an application and whatnot but 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:02
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     it's it's it's always felt in beautiful 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:05
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     to me but technology wise and i'm going 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:07
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     to get and now who's gonna yell at me 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:09
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     about this its indicated they didn't 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:11
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     haven't been leaning forward in terms of 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:15
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     in terms of the technology right 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:17
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     it'sit's a static it's not a static site 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:19
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     but it is a static site and it doesn't 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:21
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     surprise me and I know people are gonna 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:23
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     yell at me about that i would expect it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:24
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     at some point here but then thinking 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:27
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     about Apple that you have to wonder it's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:29
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     like there's probably some reason they 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:30
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     haven't done it like is it you know 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:32
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     because web fonts are big and be a huge 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:34
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     load up or whatever but there doesn't 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:37
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     i'm not surprised not like I'm sitting 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:39
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     at home i got haven't done well the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:41
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     things I can think of our that a clearly 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:45
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     the everybody knows the homepage of any 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:47
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     site is the most right and i think the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:49
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     homepage the actual apple.com homepage 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:52
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     is way more important Apple than it is 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:55
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     the most becomes hold it in the way that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:57
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     the first impression of anything is more 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:00
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     important with apple like their stores 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:03
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     are nice and if you just like going to 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:05
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     the store and crawl into the corner and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:08
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     just examine where the floor hits the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:10
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     wall and look for dust bunnies you're 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:13
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     not going to find it at all around you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:14
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     and the actual joint where the floor 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:18
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     hits the wall is just looks as new you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:20
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     know maybe it's a ten-year-old apple 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:22
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     store in your local mall and still looks 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:06:25
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     but the thing that's most important 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:26
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     isn't the detail it's not like the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:28
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     actual wow if you actually look at the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:30
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     corner of this table where all the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:32
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     iphones are setup it still looks like a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:34
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     brand-new table right right on the 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:06:37
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     things went off no scuff marks blah blah 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:38
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     ► 
     but the thing is most important is what 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:41
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     it looks like from the outside when you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:42
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     first step in right right is that first 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:45
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     impression and everything goes from 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:06:47
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     ► 
     well it seems true for the homepage of a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:48
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     ► 
     website right and the homepage of apple 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:53
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     com it's all images there is no text 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:55
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     because they're actually it all is 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:57
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     it's not rendered in web our web browser 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:00
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     fonts you know like right 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:02
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     luton it's all rendered in the Apple 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:04
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     corporate myriad typeface but the way 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:08
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     they do it is by everything's an image 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:09
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     right i was just i was looking at the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:12
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     present were talking I was doing and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:13
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     ► 
     that's one of the reasons that they 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:14
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     ► 
     don't have to go and find all of these 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:16
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     headlines are actually images right and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:19
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     ► 
     it's already notified and maybe you know 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:07:22
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     ► 
     there's a WEC session where they explain 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:24
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     how they do it their way of serving 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:27
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     retina images to retina you know quality 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:30
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     ► 
     displays and I sorry to interrupt your 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:33
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     ► 
     the Scorsese iphone ad what did you do 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:37
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     ► 
     you love it too jaded I know your fan so 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:39
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     ► 
     I love scorsese and i'm not a hater on 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:42
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     ► 
     these celebrity serie ads but i do feel 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:45
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     ► 
     though here's the thing about the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:47
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     Scorsese one that I feel I they're all 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:50
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     little cheating because they all make 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:52
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     Siri look a lot faster than Cirie 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:54
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     actually is sure in the thing with 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:56
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     Scorsese is Scorsese infamously is a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:00
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     super fast talker and thinker like he's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:05
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     ► 
     a mile-a-minute talker that's that's his 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:07
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     ► 
     thing and that's Martin Scorsese and in 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:11
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     ► 
     addition to the fact that even if he 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:14
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     were like it in like the the like a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:19
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     direct ethernet connection to the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:21
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     backbone of the best backbone of the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:24
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     ► 
     ethernet in urbana illinois is not going 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:27
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     ► 
     to get this sort of response time from 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:29
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     ► 
     Cirie he's not in midtown Manhattan and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:32
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     you go to New York and not home 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:35
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     ► 
     I don't care if you're on verizon on 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:37
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     ► 
     curvy on AT&T I don't care what you're 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:39
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     ► 
     on the 3g service in midtown Manhattan 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:42
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     ► 
     it mid tahay is sketchy right like it it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:46
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     ► 
     couldn't be more unrealistic in terms of 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:08:50
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     ► 
     it's actually like interacting with 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:51
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     ► 
     Syria that's the thing that gets me 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:52
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     ► 
     about the right to good and I thought it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:55
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     ► 
     was not as clever as one it's a good ad 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:57
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     ► 
     in terms of what Siri could be or will 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:59
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     ► 
     be eventually but in terms of like what 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:02
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     ► 
     you would actually get from Cirie while 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:04
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     ► 
     you're in a cab and mid-cap it's like 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:06
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     ► 
     that commercial in real time would take 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:09:10
     ◼
      
     ► 
     yeah it would be like a feature film and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:14
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     ► 
     also the fast-talking beginning those 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:16
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     ► 
     you be getting those a I'm sorry Martin 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:18
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     ► 
     I don't you mean Bible it right because 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:20
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     ► 
     he's talking so that has right I I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:23
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     ► 
     thought it was kinda interesting that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:24
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     ► 
     they gave a white iphone because i think 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:26
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     ► 
     it's very clear that's because the cab 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:28
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     ► 
     is a dark atmosphere and sort of wearing 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:29
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     ► 
     a dark thing and it actually i think is 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:31
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     ► 
     I think Martin Scorsese if he has an 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:34
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     ► 
     iphone really carries one he's a black 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:35
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     ► 
     iphone guy totally agree with that are 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:37
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     ► 
     you black or white right now all you 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:09:40
     ◼
      
     ► 
     come on oh yeah I can't believe you had 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:42
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     ► 
     to ask what do you do i do you i'm not 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:46
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     ► 
     sure about you you might be a white 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:48
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     ► 
     iphone i am a white iphone and i think i 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:50
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     ► 
     got inception down that too because i 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:53
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     ► 
     had black twice and and I'm like a new 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:57
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     ► 
     phone i'm gonna get the white but then i 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:59
     ◼
      
     ► 
     went back and i think these ads are all 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:01
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     ► 
     changed now after after they announced 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:03
     ◼
      
     ► 
     the most recent iphone and i went back 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:04
     ◼
      
     ► 
     and look at the advertising and i'm 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:06
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     ► 
     pretty sure that the the White was more 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:10
     ◼
      
     ► 
     prominently featured and now i'm just 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:12
     ◼
      
     ► 
     sitting there weathering I've gotten 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:14
     ◼
      
     ► 
     figure out whether i got manipulate or 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:15
     ◼
      
     ► 
     not into getting a welcoming I just 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:17
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     ► 
     wanted a change of scene in the white is 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:18
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     ► 
     beautiful by the way but I I'm feeling 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:22
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     ► 
     manipulated because i think they really 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:23
     ◼
      
     ► 
     pushed it and i think that is one of the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:25
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     ► 
     reasons that I actually decided to make 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:27
     ◼
      
     ► 
     the switch on the most recent i'm going 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:29
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     back to black its that's that that's the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:31
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     only one for me this is an old story and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:34
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     i'm sure i've told this before like that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:36
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     long ago episode of the talk show i've 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:37
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     probably told it to you personally 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:40
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     because you hung out with me and my wife 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:42
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     if it's it's a good story is that when 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:45
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     the iphone 4 1st was announced 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:49
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     I and my wife and I were both want 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:53
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     hey I get one every year she was 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:54
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     definitely on pace for a new phone and I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:57
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     said you should get the white one 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:59
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     I've seen it because i was at the press 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:01
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     event where r WC where they announced it 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:11:03
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     it's beautiful I don't want it I'm gonna 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:06
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     get black I get black everything I just 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:08
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     if anything is available in black I just 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:09
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     get in black anything cars bones if 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:13
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     there's a black option i just get black 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:15
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     that went to the right and i said but 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:19
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     trust me this thing is beautiful the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:20
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     white one is great and then we're gonna 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:22
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     solve this problem we've had since the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:24
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     iphone came out where there's two phones 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:26
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     on the kitchen counter right in their 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:28
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     identical and we don't you gotta turn it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:30
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     on to see you know see whose is whose 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:32
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     and you're never going to accidentally 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:34
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     pick up the you know each other's phone 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:35
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     and she said okay I'm in and then of 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:39
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     course the white iphone infamously took 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:42
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     apple like 10 months learn and by the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:46
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     time it actually came out you know 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:49
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     there's the rumor was that there was a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:51
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     new iphone coming and that actually 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:53
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     turned out to be false because it didn't 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:55
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     come out the iphone 4s didn't come out 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:57
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     until october but it was a real source 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:59
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     of of marital stress in in my life 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:02
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     because I got blamed for this 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:05
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     I'm sure she didn't bring that up and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:06
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     doesn't continue to bring that up like 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:08
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     every week hour or so she ended up not 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:12
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     getting a new phone until the forest 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:13
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     came out but she did get white and in 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:15
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     fact though she does love it and loves 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:17
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     the white but still I I get blamed for 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:20
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     like the lost 18 months of her having 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:22
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     the janky old 3gs on but yeah it's I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:29
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     think the weight is great but that it's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:32
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     funny it is funny too though to think 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:33
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     that it then it's like one of those 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:35
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     things are like at the time it was 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:37
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     amusing and we thought about it and then 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:39
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     we've sort of like forgotten it but like 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:41
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     ► 
     mighty Apple couldn't ship a white 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:44
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     ► 
     iphone yeah i still think that's one of 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:47
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     ► 
     the most interesting things to happen in 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:49
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     ► 
     the last 10 years like this company that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:50
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     ► 
     we sort of think can do no wrong and as 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:54
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     you know infinitely powerful couldn't 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:59
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     ► 
     ship a white iphone that they were 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:01
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     ► 
     apparently convinced that they could you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:03
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     ► 
     know we're ready to ship two weeks later 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:06
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     ► 
     in june to 2010 I wasn't there when I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:09
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     ► 
     was happening but um I mean it feels 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:11
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     ► 
     right to me it feels like I mean they 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:12
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     ► 
     remember the rumors they're rumors were 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:14
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     ► 
     that when we got hot like you start to 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:16
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     ► 
     see discoloration 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:17
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     ► 
     this amazing to me that that feels very 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:19
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     ► 
     apple right they went to the shaking big 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:21
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     ► 
     period or whatever that like last month 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:23
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     ► 
     or so of like a qualification and they 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:25
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     ► 
     found that there was a slight 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:26
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     ► 
     discoloration or whatever it was 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:29
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     ► 
     this is actually i think is very apple 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:31
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     ► 
     which is like they're like you know we 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:32
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     ► 
     don't ship crap right and right after 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:34
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     ► 
     three months if you're seeing a little 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:36
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     ► 
     discoloration where it's hot it's like 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:38
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     ► 
     that is in every single phone is going 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:41
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     ► 
     to be returned at that point so this is 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:42
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     ► 
     like something like that the other the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:44
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     ► 
     other room and maybe it was a little bit 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:45
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     ► 
     of column a and a little bit of column 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:13:48
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     ► 
     I thought the other rumor was that there 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:52
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     ► 
     was like light leakage that the bike 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:54
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     ► 
     ride the camera right so like photos 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:57
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     ► 
     wouldn't look as good because there was 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:59
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     ► 
     light coming in to hit the center that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:01
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     ► 
     wasn't coming in from the lens or 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:02
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     ► 
     something like that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:03
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     ► 
     yeah but whatever you know so my out my 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:05
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     ► 
     guess is maybe it was like all of the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:07
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     ► 
     above right was discoloration and there 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:09
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     ► 
     was some light leakage and that day 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:10
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     ► 
     because there's a I like if you look at 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:14
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     ► 
     the schematics the white one has I get 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:16
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     ► 
     different grill around on camera but you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:20
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     ► 
     I'm sure you notice this because you've 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:21
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     ► 
     got friends you know you you did work 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:23
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     ► 
     there you've got friends who are there 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:25
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     ► 
     is that the one of the most interesting 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:26
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     ► 
     things is wet and I noticed this when I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:28
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     ► 
     was there for the antenna gate event 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:33
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     ► 
     when they had the the hey hey you better 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:36
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     ► 
     come out here we gotta deal with this 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:37
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     ► 
     antennagate situation and that was a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:39
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     ► 
     special press event on campus had been 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:41
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     ► 
     while so it was like august i think 2010 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:46
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     ► 
     like two months after the iphone for it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:49
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     ► 
     shipped and two months where the only 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:51
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     ► 
     one that ship was the black one and you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:53
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     ► 
     go to the campus and you see employees 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:55
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     ► 
     walking around and half of them had 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:56
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     ► 
     white iphone right and it was like 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:59
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     ► 
     you're in this bizarro universe on 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:15:01
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     ► 
     campus where the white iphone existed 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:15:03
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     ► 
     and it was like whoa 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:15:07
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     ► 
     the only other place that I had seen was 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:15:11
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     ► 
     on the the table where at wec where they 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:15:14
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     ► 
     add the one set up for the press but you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:15:16
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     ► 
     went to the campus and employees had 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:15:18
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     ► 
     them like this lala land where where's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:15:20
     ◼
      
     ► 
     you know stuff that isn't available to 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:15:23
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     ► 
     the public people just walk around with 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:15:26
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     ► 
     on one of the things i speculated on in 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:15:28
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     ► 
     my piece earlier this week on the retina 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:15:30
     ◼
      
     ► 
     macbook pro is what font Apple might use 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:15:35
     ◼
      
     ► 
     as the system fun for Mac os10 if they 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:15:38
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     ► 
     switch from Lucinda lucida grande grande 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:15:41
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     ► 
     grande Grande google could all grande' 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:15:44
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     ► 
     lucida grande Grande i don't know i 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:15:48
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     ► 
     immediately thought that I should ask 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:15:49
     ◼
      
     ► 
     you since you're gonna shoot you in a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:15:50
     ◼
      
     ► 
     few of you feel for that even a opinion 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:15:53
     ◼
      
     ► 
     on that you know I thought about it I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:15:54
     ◼
      
     ► 
     was thinking about last night that I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:15:56
     ◼
      
     ► 
     don't know what it is but the thing 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:15:58
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     ► 
     about it is you know i think it's i 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:16:00
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     ► 
     think it's going to be some vatika 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:16:01
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     ► 
     variant but um and my opinion is it's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:16:06
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     ► 
     more the intent of what it's there it's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:16:07
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     ► 
     it needs to be very readable and just 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:16:09
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     ► 
     very ignore aliff you will write it just 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:16:12
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     ► 
     has to be really you don't want it you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:16:14
     ◼
      
     ► 
     don't want to see it right it has to be 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:16:15
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     ► 
     something which there is an elegance to 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:16:17
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     ► 
     it there is there is a pirate ability to 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:16:20
     ◼
      
     ► 
     it has a lot of the things that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:16:21
     ◼
      
     ► 
     characteristic of Lucinda's but wait it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:16:24
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     ► 
     just it isn't zero flash right because 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:16:27
     ◼
      
     ► 
     this is the this is the system phone 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:16:28
     ◼
      
     ► 
     right it's going to be something which 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:16:30
     ◼
      
     ► 
     it's just it's vanilla beautifully 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:16:33
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     ► 
     what do you think I my guess is it's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:16:37
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     ► 
     gonna be helped that they're going to 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:16:39
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     ► 
     switch to help that ago and i do think i 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:16:41
     ◼
      
     ► 
     actually do that i had this is like this 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:16:43
     ◼
      
     ► 
     is an article that is in my drafts 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:16:45
     ◼
      
     ► 
     folder i like and it's probably two 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:16:48
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     ► 
     sentences and a bunch of gibberish words 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:16:50
     ◼
      
     ► 
     but next thing about all is that I do 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:16:53
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     ► 
     think i think that one of the most 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:16:54
     ◼
      
     ► 
     interesting design decisions 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:16:56
     ◼
      
     ► 
     Apple has ever made in 30 years of 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:00
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     ► 
     corporate history is the choice of 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:03
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     ► 
     helvetica as the system font for iOS 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:06
     ◼
      
     ► 
     right because helvetica is sort of the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:15
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     ► 
     most obvious font that they could have 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:18
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     ► 
     chosen right it is a great face it is 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:21
     ◼
      
     ► 
     you know it's super famous it's maybe 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:23
     ◼
      
     ► 
     you know I it's the font that actually 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:25
     ◼
      
     ► 
     has a documentary named after it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:27
     ◼
      
     ► 
     it's a font that people who don't even 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:28
     ◼
      
     ► 
     really think about fonts have at least 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:30
     ◼
      
     ► 
     heard of even if they can't identify it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:33
     ◼
      
     ► 
     I'm but what sort of what makes 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:37
     ◼
      
     ► 
     helvetica so famous is that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:39
     ◼
      
     ► 
     it is so neutral right right 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:44
     ◼
      
     ► 
     internets it's almost the non fund like 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:48
     ◼
      
     ► 
     I remember when I first got a mac 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:50
     ◼
      
     ► 
     thinking and I didn't really even know 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:53
     ◼
      
     ► 
     what its like before I really became 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:56
     ◼
      
     ► 
     even informed about typography but I was 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:58
     ◼
      
     ► 
     intrigued by the font menu and that i 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:18:01
     ◼
      
     ► 
     could do is select all go to the font 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:18:03
     ◼
      
     ► 
     menu and make what i just wrote look 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:18:06
     ◼
      
     ► 
     different and I remember thinking that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:18:10
     ◼
      
     ► 
     are actually not even thinking that it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:18:15
     ◼
      
     ► 
     was sort of a of course it has to be 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:18:17
     ◼
      
     ► 
     this way that of course in any word 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:18:20
     ◼
      
     ► 
     processing document when you make 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:18:22
     ◼
      
     ► 
     command n and make a new document and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:18:25
     ◼
      
     ► 
     just start typing on course it's going 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:18:27
     ◼
      
     ► 
     to be 12-point helvetica right because 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:18:30
     ◼
      
     ► 
     that's the font that you haven't chosen 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:18:33
     ◼
      
     ► 
     a fund that's the okay you're just 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:18:36
     ◼
      
     ► 
     starting and this is neutral and we're 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:18:38
     ◼
      
     ► 
     not going to assume that this is 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:18:39
     ◼
      
     ► 
     supposed to feel friendly we're not 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:18:41
     ◼
      
     ► 
     going to assume it's supposed to feel 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:18:42
     ◼
      
     ► 
     formal was conditional it's just the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:18:46
     ◼
      
     ► 
     words right and it's America nobody ever 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:18:49
     ◼
      
     ► 
     says it's a great fun but nobody ever 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:18:50
     ◼
      
     ► 
     says wow that is an interesting choice 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:18:53
     ◼
      
     ► 
     for a font like you are a brilliant 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:18:57
     ◼
      
     ► 
     designer for having chosen helvetica but 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:00
     ◼
      
     ► 
     that's what they chose for iOS and you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:03
     ◼
      
     ► 
     know any other thing about choosing that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:04
     ◼
      
     ► 
     for iOS is that helvetica is you know 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:07
     ◼
      
     ► 
     it's not free you know is I think 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:10
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     linotype owns the license to it but it's 
     
     
  
 
 
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     certainly widely available on any other 
     
     
  
 
 
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     company and in fact you can see there's 
     
     
  
 
 
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     a whole bunch of android phones that 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that it doesn't ship as part of the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     default android distribution but the the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     add-ons from companies like Samsung and 
     
     
  
 
 
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     HTC inevitably use helvetica for like 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the home screen widgets you know the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     clock and the date and time and the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     weather and stuff like that because you 
     
     
  
 
 
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     know it's automatic everybody can have 
     
     
  
 
 
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     access to America but it is i mean 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that's the that's the point about a 
     
     
  
 
 
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     really good face is I mean unless you're 
     
     
  
 
 
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     doing something you know comics & Z and 
     
     
  
 
 
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     then horrific like that 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the point is it needs to kind of stay 
     
     
  
 
 
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     out of the way and when I go look at the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     web fonts on Iran's and repose right now 
     
     
  
 
 
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     it's they still give me joy but at the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     end of the day I want them to get out of 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the way so that people can get to the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     message you know so it's there's there's 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that balance you want to you want to 
     
     
  
 
 
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     strike of highly readable but you know 
     
     
  
 
 
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     but also just get the hell out of the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     way so i can get the words the knock 
     
     
  
 
 
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     against helvetica is that or one of the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     knocks against it especially for uses a 
     
     
  
 
 
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     system font is that it's a font that not 
     
     
  
 
 
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     only is it hard to distinguish certain 
     
     
  
 
 
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     similar characters in some cases it's 
     
     
  
 
 
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     actually like impossible without the cut 
     
     
  
 
 
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     surrounding context and the best you 
     
     
  
 
 
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     know famous example is capital I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     lowercase L in the numeral one right now 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the one in Helvetica is a little 
     
     
  
 
 
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     different but like capital I in a 
     
     
  
 
 
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     lowercase l the only difference between 
     
     
  
 
 
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     them in America is that the capitalized 
     
     
  
 
 
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     ever so slightly taller but they're just 
     
     
  
 
 
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     straight bars with no Sarah for glyph 
     
     
  
 
 
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     for anything at all and you know a lot 
     
     
  
 
 
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     of people feel very strongly that like a 
     
     
  
 
 
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     system font i should have some kind of 
     
     
  
 
 
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     distinguishing characteristic for all of 
     
     
  
 
 
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     those characters you know that the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     elders should have a little bendy the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     lowercase L should have a little bendy 
     
     
  
 
 
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     thing at the bottom the upper case I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     should have the bars the crossbar and 
     
     
  
 
 
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     right and have erica has none of those 
     
     
  
 
 
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     things but god I love helvetica I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:24
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     wouldn't i wouldn't mind at all of the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Mac os10 switch to help erica can happen 
     
     
  
 
 
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     in some point something I know what it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     is but it's one of those things where 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the retina and makes all the difference 
     
     
  
 
 
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     in the world right there on pre retina 
     
     
  
 
 
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     displays it's not that vehicle looks bad 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:39
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     but it doesn't look great 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:40
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     yeah right whereas on the retina display 
     
     
  
 
 
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     it's like all yeah that's you know 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:44
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     that's the helvetica i love it's my 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:46
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     favorite thing to one of my favorite 
     
     
  
 
 
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     things to do on the site when I landed 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:49
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     the the web fonts is to pinch and it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:52
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     doesn't make them huge and make the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:55
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     article huge we're going to see word by 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:56
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     word and justjust Chris 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:59
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     just gorgeous very satisfying 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:22:03
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     it's so different it's so different 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:22:06
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     yeah and you know and and for me you 
     
     
  
 
 
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     know and it really is it's it's overdue 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:22:12
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     and I don't even have a good excuse for 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:22:14
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     why I haven't switched to some sort of 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:22:15
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     web monitoring fireball other than then 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:22:18
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     what's the word laziness 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:22:22
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     yeah but I you know the body fun during 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:22:27
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     fireballs vidhana at 11px and I chose 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:22:32
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     that I chose that fun and and size in 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:22:36
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     2002 at a time when the overwhelming 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:22:41
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     majority of daring fireball readers not 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:22:44
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     just on windows which at the time was 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:22:46
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     actually a majority of readers but even 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:22:49
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     on Mac we're using mac OS 9 not Mac os10 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:22:52
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     on a mac OS 9 it wasn't anti-aliased 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:22:56
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     right it was a pure pixel fund like I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:23:00
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     picked that font and size at a time when 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:23:03
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     anti-aliasing wasn't even enabled except 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:23:06
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     for the sliver of readers who were 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:23:09
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     already on Mac os10 right which was 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:23:12
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     varied 2002 was actually really really 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:23:14
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     small number of people 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:23:16
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     ah and it just doesn't hold up right 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:23:21
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     like I link to the egg have you noticed 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:23:23
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     you go to ikea your ikea guy you know 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:23:25
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     everything I know can't gather but you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:23:27
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     know that you know the brand right 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:23:29
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     hell yeah and you know that they 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:23:31
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     switched from you like their own custom 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:23:33
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     version of future great fund 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:23:38
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     to verdanna like their catalogs and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:23:40
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     their signage are all printed in for 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:23:42
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     Donna you know this i'm looking at it 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:23:45
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     yeah and it really looks horrible yeah I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:23:48
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     print resolution I and everybody nobody 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:23:52
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     nobody has a good explanation for why 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:23:54
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     they did this is it there's a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:23:57
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     convenience store / gas station chain in 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:24:02
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     the greater philadelphia area called 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:24:04
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     wall just wanted wha can spot me wa wa 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:24:09
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     ok I everybody listening most people 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:24:12
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     listening are exactly like you think 11 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:24:15
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     and then the Philadelphia area listeners 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:24:17
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     are all like I can't believe he had to 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:24:20
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     spell you know it's a 7-eleven is type 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:24:24
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     thing but with the like you know just 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:24:27
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     nicer it's a lot nicer go to 7-eleven on 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:24:30
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     but they use i often gas up the car at a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:24:34
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     wawa they used for Donna like on their 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:24:38
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     print stuff you know how like when you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:24:39
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     get when you're buying gas there's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:24:40
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     always an ad for something right 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:24:42
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     sandwiches they're selling inside or the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:24:44
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     slurpees or whatever the hell they got a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:24:47
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     use for Donna and every time I pump gas 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:24:49
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     there I noticed when they use for Donna 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:24:51
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     and I think my god does that look like 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:24:53
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     shit at print resolution right that's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:24:56
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     what verdanna looks like to me on a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:24:57
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     retina display right just looks like 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:24:59
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     you've you've chosen a font that is 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:25:02
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     never meant to be output at this 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:25:04
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     resolution you know now you're using you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:25:08
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     ever see anybody who uses Chicago has a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:25:11
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     print font know the the I just see that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:25:16
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     every once in a while you'll see like a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:25:17
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     store something that is like a sign and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:25:19
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     they picked Chicago and it looks so bad 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:25:21
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     as a print fun 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:25:23
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     ya know I haven't point whenever I'm 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:25:25
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     walking around New York City it's it's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:25:27
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     the notice lots of people like to his 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:25:29
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     Instagram it's just that the font 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:25:31
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     travesties that are out there it's it's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:25:34
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     ► 
     shocking to me or as bad as trebuchet 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:25:38
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     looks on the web right when somebody 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:25:40
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     princess sign using trebuchet 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:25:42
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     oh god it just kills I get diets like 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:25:44
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     needles in my eyes 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:25:45
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     bad fonts that's the thing about the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:25:49
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     retina display is good fonts looks so 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:25:51
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     good and bad fonts looks so much worse 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:25:54
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     yeah you look worse than they do before 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:25:57
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     reading this place on Crede right I've 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:00
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     got one more thing 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:01
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     ok go and that's one more thing that's a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:05
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     ► 
     piece that you wrote on random pose 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:07
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     right just a few weeks ago 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:09
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     ► 
     mm you wrote about Apple's thing where 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:14
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     exactly is it that's my question for you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:16
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     is it is the one more thing from a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:19
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     ► 
     keynote is it an apple thing or was it a 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:26:23
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     ► 
     oh you know i did research into the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:26
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     ► 
     piece and i found that let the YouTube 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:28
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     video that someone just amalgamated 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:29
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     ► 
     altogether and i will put that i will 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:31
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     ► 
     put that YouTube in the show notes right 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:34
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     everybody to enjoy and just gets its 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:36
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     ► 
     it's an amalgamation of Steve Jobs one 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:38
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     ► 
     more things from keynotes were asked 15 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:41
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     ► 
     years but the question that you asked 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:43
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     ► 
     that I don't know the answer to is did 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:45
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     ► 
     anyone say it in a keynote before that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:47
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     ► 
     and I don't know you certainly shaped it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:49
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     ► 
     though right i mean if you go look at 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:51
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     the video you can see you can see him go 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:55
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     ► 
     from like it's this it's this total 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:57
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     ► 
     moment of its it's the showmanship of 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:00
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     ► 
     him going from like oh it's like walking 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:03
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     ► 
     off stage right you know and he's like 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:06
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     ► 
     we're all done and he turns around and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:08
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     ► 
     goes oh wait a minute there's one more 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:10
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     ► 
     thing and that's how it really started 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:11
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     ► 
     and you've seen this too but it really 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:13
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     ► 
     started with him like literally trying 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:15
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     ► 
     to convince us that he almost forgot to 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:17
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     ► 
     introduce this world-changing thing and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:19
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     ► 
     it over the years it's sort of refined 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:21
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     ► 
     into sort of a a more it wasn't that big 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:25
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     ► 
     of a surprise it was just those three 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:27
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     ► 
     words that they actually that they 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:29
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     ► 
     actually did you always were wondering 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:31
     ◼
      
     ► 
     right you're always wondering whether 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:33
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     ► 
     that thing was going to happen at the at 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:36
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     ► 
     the end of the of the key nobody and it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:38
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     ► 
     didn't always and when it did it was 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:39
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     ► 
     usually something that was it was 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:40
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     ► 
     compelling whether the airport express 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:42
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     ► 
     or forget all the things were there but 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:44
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     ► 
     the question that i have is i think it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:46
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     ► 
     is a Steve thing is my opinion I don't 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:48
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     ► 
     think I think they will never do it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:50
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     ► 
     again because it is his thing and if 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:54
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     ► 
     they do that would be that's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:56
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     ► 
     that is made significant milestone in 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:59
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     ► 
     the post Steve world if they actually go 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:28:01
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     ► 
     say one more thing because it is him 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:28:03
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     ► 
     it's really it is literally a sign of 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:28:05
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     ► 
     his love his style and then the showman 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:28:07
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     that he was and they did and then you 
     
     
  
 
 
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     know it was certain when he died it was 
     
     
  
 
 
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     certainly an unusual situation and 
     
     
  
 
 
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     running that unusual disables a unique 
     
     
  
 
 
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     situation for apple in its corporate 
     
     
  
 
 
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     history that there's nobody else whose 
     
     
  
 
 
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     death going forward and make their 
     
     
  
 
 
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     company could still be around and still 
     
     
  
 
 
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     thriving a hundred years from now 
     
     
  
 
 
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     absolutely and they're still never going 
     
     
  
 
 
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     to be anything like the death of Steve 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Jobs in terms of what it means to the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     company and and they had to do something 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:28:39
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     and so they did something unusual and 
     
     
  
 
 
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     they had you know they had that picture 
     
     
  
 
 
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     of Bryon sort of tribute on the homepage 
     
     
  
 
 
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     of apple com for a long time after and 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I'd right I months i think it was months 
     
     
  
 
 
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     yeah I was it was really a long time I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:28:53
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     mean some you know he died in october is 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:28:58
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     a talker i actually don't remember 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:28:59
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     exactly what I think was october and I i 
     
     
  
 
 
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     think they had that up on the homepage 
     
     
  
 
 
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     through the holidays 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:29:04
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     yeah I mean and you know that's it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:29:07
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     particularly big deal because the Apple 
     
     
  
 
 
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     as big as it is is still 
     
     
  
 
 
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     disproportionately a holiday quarter 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:29:14
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     company still always did I don't think 
     
     
  
 
 
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     it's ever going to not be their biggest 
     
     
  
 
 
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     quarter of the year 
     
     
  
 
 
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     absolutely and they spent the whole 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:29:21
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     quarter with their homepage being a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:29:23
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     tribute to the you know deceased founder 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:29:26
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     Steve Jobs ah and then you know now it's 
     
     
  
 
 
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     it's you know once that period was over 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:29:35
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     now they just don't talk about Steve 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:29:38
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     right right but I feel like when they 
     
     
  
 
 
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     have the events it's impossible for 
     
     
  
 
 
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     anybody and I feel like years from now 
     
     
  
 
 
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     five years from now when they're 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:29:48
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     introducing you know the the iphone 12 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:29:52
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     or the 11s I don't know what that are 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:29:58
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     going to call it but whatever whatever 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:30:00
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     they're going to call it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:30:01
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     we're still going to think with the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:30:02
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     beginning of the event when the music 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:30:05
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     stops where and somebody walks out 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:30:09
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     you're going to think 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:30:10
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     god I wish that were Steve 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:30:11
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     absolutely.aah and that's a tough thing 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:30:15
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     for you know for Tim Cook and Phil 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:30:17
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     Schiller and everybody was gonna do it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:30:19
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     is that it's never nobody is ever going 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:30:21
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     to stop missing Steve at those events 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:30:23
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     because that's when we had any kind of 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:30:28
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     you know sauce with jobs right that's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:30:31
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     when his presence was palpable is on the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:30:33
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     events and i think i'm with you that I I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:30:38
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     feel like it would be nice and maybe 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:30:39
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     they could do it you know and if anybody 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:30:41
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     can pull it off I think it's Schiller 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:30:43
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     sure but if they ever did the first time 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:30:48
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     they did that one more thing right in an 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:30:53
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     event going forward without him it it's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:30:58
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     almost as though it's almost as as 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:31:02
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     explicit not even implicit but explicit 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:31:07
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     a shout out to steve jobs as if they 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:31:11
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     actually just said hey and we'd like to 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:31:13
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     just throw up a you know just you know 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:31:15
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     it's been a year since he died here's a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:31:17
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     picture of them would just like to say a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:31:19
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     few words about Steve Jobs is working on 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:31:21
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     ► 
     for a year which are not going to do 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:31:23
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     that what if they do one more thing I it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:31:26
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     would be if you're going to spend that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:31:29
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     ► 
     let's let's play like if you can 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:31:30
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     actually because there would be a cost 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:31:32
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     to doing that because i think they do 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:31:34
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     you think it is his his line but if you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:31:36
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     were going to do that the window but I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:31:38
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     would do if I was which are i'm not but 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:31:41
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     when you would have to be something of a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:31:43
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     magnitude that would be significant but 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:31:46
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     it also have to be this is something 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:31:48
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     ► 
     that Steve would have wanted right if 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:31:50
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     ► 
     it's because otherwise it's not 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:31:51
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     something amazing if it's not something 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:31:53
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     ► 
     huge then you're wasting that right 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:31:56
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     ► 
     it has it would have to be a happy call 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:31:58
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     out to him is this what i would but i 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:32:00
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     ► 
     would think it's like it happened it's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:32:02
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     ► 
     this feels like a this is a thing that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:32:04
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     ► 
     Steve would want to build right because 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:32:06
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     ► 
     like you and answered exactly like you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:32:08
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     ► 
     mentioned and i think i've talked about 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:32:09
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     this before that it was the fact that it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:32:14
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     was way more powerful because it wasn't 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:32:16
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     every event right or even predictable 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:32:19
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     ► 
     right you know and i think what I've 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:32:22
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     ► 
     mentioned before is that it gets into 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:32:23
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     ► 
     like behavioral psychology where it's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:32:26
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     this a random reinforcement schedule is 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:32:30
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     ► 
     actually the most powerful way right to 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:32:33
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     ► 
     get somebody hooked on something and I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:32:35
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     ► 
     know I've mentioned this before but that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:32:37
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     you know like if you have I think it's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:32:38
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     ► 
     called a skinner box where you you put a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:32:41
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     rat in a box and give the rat a little 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:32:43
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     button to push to get food and if if 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:32:46
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     it's like you set up a schedule where 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:32:48
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     every other time every odd time that it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:32:52
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     hits the button a piece of food comes 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:32:54
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     ah and then you stop and you just unhook 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:32:58
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     the button and then you matter how many 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:33:00
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     times the rat push the button no food 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:33:02
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     comes out the rat will give up after 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:33:04
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     like I don't know 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:33:05
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     567 pushes right and and with different 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:33:07
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     schedules the rat will keep pushing the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:33:09
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     dead button after you unhook it longer 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:33:11
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     ► 
     and longer but if the original schedule 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:33:13
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     is random the rat will never stop 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:33:17
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     pushing the button 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:33:18
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     ► 
     this is true I swear on my bulimia is 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:33:21
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     ► 
     one of the most interesting things about 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:33:23
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     ► 
     psychology and I feel like that's the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:33:24
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     ► 
     one more thing right for us is that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:33:27
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     ► 
     three years could go by right now and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:33:32
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     ► 
     its dominance 2015 and Michael op is 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:33:35
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     ► 
     back on the talk show with with john 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:33:37
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     ► 
     gruber and we're going to talk about it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:33:41
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     ► 
     hasn't been one more thing since Steve 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:33:43
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     ► 
     Jobs alive right and you'll come on and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:33:45
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     ► 
     we'll talk about it when someone maybe 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:33:46
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     ► 
     they'll do it next time right and will 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:33:50
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     ► 
     be kind of hope that's when I feel like 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:33:51
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     ► 
     that's the thing that makes it so 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:33:53
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     ► 
     interesting and so it's one of those you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:33:56
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     ► 
     you writing about that made me so 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:33:58
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     ► 
     jealous because I was a god damn i wish 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:34:00
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     ► 
     i wrote that was really one of those 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:34:02
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     ► 
     like i really wish i had written that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:34:04
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     ► 
     piece because it really kind of gets to 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:34:06
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     ► 
     the heart of what makes apple such an 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:34:08
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     ► 
     interesting company is that you think 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:34:10
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     ► 
     about and you know that they think about 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:34:12
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     ► 
     right right and they wouldn't use it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:34:14
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     ► 
     like they would not take if they do it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:34:16
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     ► 
     they wouldn't take it lightly and it's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:34:18
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     ► 
     it's it's a little bit off topic but 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:34:20
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     ► 
     it's like it's one of the things i'm 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:34:21
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     ► 
     reading all the press about the samsung 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:34:22
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     ► 
     cases i know i know about there anymore 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:34:26
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     ► 
     and I don't you know and wasn't involved 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:34:27
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     ► 
     in these conversations but you gotta 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:34:29
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     ► 
     know one of the things they said hey 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:34:31
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     ► 
     listen we're gonna go we're going to go 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:34:32
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     ► 
     to town on this case against Samsung 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:34:35
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     ► 
     is we're gonna have to we're gonna have 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:34:37
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     ► 
     to open the kimono a little bit and show 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:34:39
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     ► 
     them a little bit secret sauce and I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:34:41
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     ► 
     don't know how you quantify that I don't 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:34:42
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     ► 
     know how you measure that but it's it's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:34:45
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     ► 
     you're seeing prototypes you're seeing a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:34:47
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     ► 
     little bit more how Apple works and they 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:34:49
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     ► 
     don't want that at all 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:34:50
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     ► 
     they don't want of course they don't 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:34:51
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     ► 
     want that at all and that's that's the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:34:53
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     ► 
     thing i think i think it pains him to 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:34:54
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     ► 
     have to like say well we have this room 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:34:57
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     ► 
     and this room that's everyone's always 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:34:59
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     ► 
     known about was never been actually 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:35:00
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     ► 
     confirmed when sits around a table and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:35:02
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     ► 
     they made whole prototypes and they 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:35:04
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     ► 
     don't want to share that at all because 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:35:05
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     ► 
     it's a costume it's it's it's it's the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:35:08
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     ► 
     mystique is a little bit less mysterious 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:35:10
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     ► 
     and that's a good line I don't know but 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:35:12
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     ► 
     yes the thing they're wrestling with all 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:35:15
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     ► 
     right like you know it is i think it is 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:35:19
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     ► 
     very much analogous to the the adage 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:35:21
     ◼
      
     ► 
     that a magician never explains the loser 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:35:24
     ◼
      
     ► 
     ex work around that you don't talk about 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:35:27
     ◼
      
     ► 
     it that it does take something away but 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:35:29
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     ► 
     I do think exactly agree with you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:35:31
     ◼
      
     ► 
     completely though that it's absolutely 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:35:36
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     ► 
     they are they were completely aware of 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:35:38
     ◼
      
     ► 
     that going into this lawsuit where they 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:35:41
     ◼
      
     ► 
     feel that it's worth it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:35:42
     ◼
      
     ► 
     it is absolutely absolutely not the case 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:35:44
     ◼
      
     ► 
     that they just blindly in anger wanted 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:35:48
     ◼
      
     ► 
     to sue samsung and then all of a sudden 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:35:50
     ◼
      
     ► 
     a year later like oh shit we're screwed 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:35:52
     ◼
      
     ► 
     we've got to reveal these prototypes 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:35:54
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     ► 
     right like they knew that all of that by 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:35:57
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     ► 
     completing their event and completely 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:35:59
     ◼
      
     ► 
     see that as being worth the risk for you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:36:01
     ◼
      
     ► 
     know whatever competitive reasons i 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:36:05
     ◼
      
     ► 
     could see it then the thing that gets me 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:36:06
     ◼
      
     ► 
     think about the one more thing too is 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:36:08
     ◼
      
     ► 
     that this event that is rumored for next 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:36:12
     ◼
      
     ► 
     month right because the idea the rumors 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:36:16
     ◼
      
     ► 
     are so strong that it's going to have 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:36:17
     ◼
      
     ► 
     both an iphone and a new ipad this 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:36:21
     ◼
      
     ► 
     smaller ipad thing makes me think that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:36:24
     ◼
      
     ► 
     one or the other of them like maybe the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:36:26
     ◼
      
     ► 
     event is about the iphone and the ipad 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:36:27
     ◼
      
     ► 
     is one more thing and that you're like 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:36:30
     ◼
      
     ► 
     getting towards the end it seems like 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:36:31
     ◼
      
     ► 
     the wrapping up and then I feel like I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:36:33
     ◼
      
     ► 
     can just imagine myself in the audience 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:36:35
     ◼
      
     ► 
     taking my notes thinking oh shit i've 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:36:38
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     written Hollis shit wondering more about 
     
     
  
 
 
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     this iPad Mini or error nano whatever 
     
     
  
 
 
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     they're going to call it and they are 
     
     
  
 
 
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     not going to announce it and you know 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     for that site you know grouper was wrong 
     
     
  
 
 
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     right and I start getting that flop 
     
     
  
 
 
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     sweat of ocean I've got a right and I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     was wrong article and then one more 
     
     
  
 
 
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     thing right and i can imagine if i can 
     
     
  
 
 
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     imagine being there in the audience 
     
     
  
 
 
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     doing it and I can also imagine being at 
     
     
  
 
 
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     home following along on all the sites 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that live longer and stuff and having 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that same feeling like oh man everybody 
     
     
  
 
 
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     was wrong with the ipad mini and then 
     
     
  
 
 
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     all the sudden there's Dan more in on 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Mac worldcom saying one more thing 
     
     
  
 
 
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     schiller one more thing I'm gonna go 
     
     
  
 
 
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     with no I think it's his I mean I've 
     
     
  
 
 
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     been wrong many times I don't have a tag 
     
     
  
 
 
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     one I do want to go on the record on the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     name if there is another ipad coming out 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I you seem you're saying many and air I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     feel like there's there's exclusive 
     
     
  
 
 
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     names relative to the platforms and i 
     
     
  
 
 
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     think many and air are all macbook and I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     think blurring that over from that over 
     
     
  
 
 
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     to the ipad isn't gonna happen so no I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     don't love the name if there is one but 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that feels more like that is the realm 
     
     
  
 
 
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     of more of the the portable devices not 
     
     
  
 
 
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     portable but the you know i'm talking 
     
     
  
 
 
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     about the iOS devices so that's going on 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the record there all right you're gonna 
     
     
  
 
 
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     record that the reason I don't think 
     
     
  
 
 
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     they'll use nano is that nano to me and 
     
     
  
 
 
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     his boys small smallness yeah and I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     don't think smallness is the is where 
     
     
  
 
 
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     they're going I think it's a in this and 
     
     
  
 
 
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     lightness i would go i agree i would go 
     
     
  
 
 
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     with new word before air or many ok 
     
     
  
 
 
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     alright one more thing just before we go 
     
     
  
 
 
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     yeah if they do if Apple does ever do 
     
     
  
 
 
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     whether it's next month whether it's a 
     
     
  
 
 
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     year from now whether it's three years 
     
     
  
 
 
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     from now if they ever do another one 
     
     
  
 
 
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     more thing in a presentation who who 
     
     
  
 
 
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     does it and I think it's you that I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     think it's a binary choice i think it's 
     
     
  
 
 
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     either Schiller or to Tim Cook I think 
     
     
  
 
 
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     it's got item with you on the shoulder I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     think Schiller I think she'll be just 
     
     
  
 
 
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     watching Schilling started so 
     
     
  
 
 
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     uncomfortable years ago he was sort of 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the court jester type and he is no 
     
     
  
 
 
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     longer that at all obviously he's thank 
     
     
  
 
 
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     you so much better 
     
     
  
 
 
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     speaking of much better presenter that 
     
     
  
 
 
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     he was 5 10 years ago but and he may be 
     
     
  
 
 
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     able to do it with more Flair but it's 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the CEO right i think i think you're 
     
     
  
 
 
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     going to do it it's got to be Tim Cook 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and it and again i don't think that they 
     
     
  
 
 
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     do it because i think it is a Steve 
     
     
  
 
 
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     thing but in the CEO has to announce it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     even though tim is Tim doing products i 
     
     
  
 
 
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     can't even down right now 
     
     
  
 
 
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     well he hasn't he to my knowledge he is 
     
     
  
 
 
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     not done a product he does he sort of 
     
     
  
 
 
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     talks about the company at the beginning 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and introduce the event and he does the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     wrap up at the end but he hasn't done a 
     
     
  
 
 
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     product right i would go with Tim I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     think I think shoulder are 
     
     
  
 
 
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     constitutionally could totally do it but 
     
     
  
 
 
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     again if you're gonna do this if you 
     
     
  
 
 
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     believe my theory that it's going to be 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and if they're good at it that's going 
     
     
  
 
 
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     to be they're gonna spend it in a very 
     
     
  
 
 
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     careful way and it's something that 
     
     
  
 
 
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     comes from Tim alright people always say 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I should have people on the show who 
     
     
  
 
 
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     disagree with rather than directly i'm 
     
     
  
 
 
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     going to disagree i'm going to say that 
     
     
  
 
 
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     if they ever do it it's going to be sure 
     
     
  
 
 
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     not cook and the reason that hook is the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     one who has to sort of tow this line of 
     
     
  
 
 
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     being the guy in charge i'm now the head 
     
     
  
 
 
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     motherfucker in charge but I'm not 
     
     
  
 
 
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     trying to be steve jobs right that's a 
     
     
  
 
 
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     very strange and difficult and totally 
     
     
  
 
 
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     do not want to be that in that man shoes 
     
     
  
 
 
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     sure line to hugh and i feel that him 
     
     
  
 
 
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     doing one more thing would come across 
     
     
  
 
 
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     as I think i'm steve jobs now whereas 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Schiller could pull it off and make it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     seem like look Steve always did this but 
     
     
  
 
 
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     it's an apple thing nasty thing but then 
     
     
  
 
 
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     it's smaller right then it's nothing not 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the chiller is not amazing and great i 
     
     
  
 
 
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     agree because it's coming out of 
     
     
  
 
 
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     somebody who's not the CEO exactly right 
     
     
  
 
 
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     again i think that i think we can 
     
     
  
 
 
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     disagree but I think that I my god as 
     
     
  
 
 
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     they just don't do it again there's a 
     
     
  
 
 
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     certain i think there are certain things 
     
     
  
 
 
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     set of things that we could we could 
     
     
  
 
 
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     debate on what this list is that are 
     
     
  
 
 
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     sacred and no longer there 
     
     
  
 
 
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     one of them being steve jobs but it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the other things are associated with him 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that feels like one of them right it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     feels like part of his show 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I mean as things were as things were as 
     
     
  
 
 
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     he was getting worse you could see it in 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the present you can see used to be just 
     
     
  
 
 
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     a Steve Jobs shown there was 
     
     
  
 
 
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     occasionally someone from Sony up there 
     
     
  
 
 
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     just embarrassing all of us but they 
     
     
  
 
 
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     started to kind of build out the crew 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and no force dollars they're more and 
     
     
  
 
 
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     there's more folks it started getting to 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that world of of of the sort of the cast 
     
     
  
 
 
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     of characters as opposed to just him 
     
     
  
 
 
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     um that's the currents in the current 
     
     
  
 
 
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     status quo but it's a to me it's just 
     
     
  
 
 
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     it's that's that's his and again if 
     
     
  
 
 
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     they're gonna spend it better be 
     
     
  
 
 
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     something big 
     
     
  
 
 
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     totally agree Michael op thank you for 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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