The Talk Show

11: We’re Going to Get You Some Jeans Today, Jimmy, with John Moltz


  speaking of streaks that I gotta I gotta

  run this by it streaks nine-game hitting

  streak for Ichiro Suzuki now he used to

  play for a different team just stop just

  stop already

  now i have I already is already have as

  much as I can take

  I have a question for you I really do

  this is Hank into baseball not you know

  we used to go because we have a minor

  league team right here in tacoma that's

  the the rainiers which is the Mariners

  form team and we go to those games

  frequently when he was little and we get

  beyond seats up another you know top of

  the top of the road he would just run

  around and occasionally watch the

  baseball game but then they do fun stuff

  like you know you get to run with the

  mascot that's right so you go out in the

  field you run around with the mascot on

  and we got wasted those but we took him

  to one mariners game when he got a

  little bit older and it was just it was

  we wanted to stay for the whole thing

  and it was too long and they were

  supposed to do that thing where you

  don't take him for the number of endings

  that they are old in years and we didn't

  do that so anyway he he didn't have a

  great time at that and then you know I

  figured what's the point of pan and

  secure also it's not a huge

  disappointment to him that that Ichiro

  as is gone to the Yankees know and he

  and as a matter of fact you'll love this

  he is a contrary and so so anytime we

  bring up bring up the mariners he sees

  in a sense that he wants the mirrors to

  lose and and he is divined that ma the

  family enemies is the Yankees and so he

  he now says to me once the Yankees 2

  I like that kid yeah I know I know you

  like that and and and then a friend i

  have been a badly mismanaged this

  because originally i said that you know

  I loudly proclaimed that he would be you

  know out on the street if he became a

  Yankee fan and it of course you know

  immediately became a Yankee fan you know

  but you know and he's not watching you

  know he doesn't want any of it so it's

  just it's just to try and raise our iron

  which is very good at anyway I'm I'm

  happy free throw

  yeah because I mean you know I want them


  you know I mean he you know he got stuck

  with a bad deal

  yeah and they have Mariners you know

  it's a weird team they're always there

  always seemed to be up-and-coming but

  but never never get it

  yeah we had a good run way to get run

  for a while and then and now you guys

  are stuck in in what it used to be the

  AL East it was the toughest division now

  it looks like they are west is the

  toughest division you got three teams

  fighting for playoffs

  yeah yeah but not the 14 not the 14 not

  the one that I happen to follow

  how's the very nice website going good

  yeah I'm having fun which is really what

  it's all about people got right so

  that's all that's all you're in it for

  right that's it I'm just in it for the

  fun right

  do you wanna do you want to talk about

  Skyfall a little bit i could talk a

  little bit about that I wants a new


  yeah I was um I was married to the new

  trailer earlier and a very pretty school

  tasteful ceremony not because i love it

  looks it looks great i am super super

  excited about it because I don't know

  how you cannot be I feel like the whole

  reboot of the franchise has been good so

  far and and ever since I found out about

  the backstory behind quantum of solace

  which was a letdown after but you know

  that you know why it was bad

  yeah because it was right but they it

  when it was like one of the movies that

  was like absolutely at the worst point

  for the writers strike because they had

  gotten to the point where production had

  to start like financially like they've

  you know paid all of this cast and crew

  and they had locations and it was like

  you know like they've passed the point

  of no return on shooting but they didn't

  really have the script done yet

  and then there's a writer's strike and

  then they just like made stuff up and i

  imagine it I i read something about that

  and I can't remember who was the person

  who was talking about that problem but

  it wasn't actually it was Daniel Craig

  actually writing some of yeah they said

  that Daniel Craig and the director has

  sort of wrote some stuff and in higher

  given that

  it's actually pretty good yeah I mean

  you know when you think okay maybe just

  stop doing it but they can't stop doing


  no it was like any obligations and they

  have yeah well aight and i think the

  lesson to be learned on that is that

  your route you know and I'm sure that if

  I got started making a movie yeah you

  know what I'd probably put off

  finalizing this I'd procrastinate on the

  writing or whatever but it's like you

  really should have liked the script down

  before you you get the idea but they

  never do

  right i mean you don't want you know who

  nobody ever count on a writer strike but

  I remember something something to be

  said about that but anyway i'm super

  excited about it because it's got a

  great that's the other thing is that

  first James Bond movie i can remember

  with like a name brand director at the

  helm at least in my lifetime are our

  good friend Sam Sam end its mendez

  mendis that's a good question we were

  notorious for mispronouncing I am are

  only 2 i've only just gotten started the

  second sentence on this episode but of

  American Beauty fame

  yeah yeah i think it's going to be a

  great movie did the same guy diehl the

  previous to know now I forget who

  directed the previous two and martin

  campbell directed the one the guy who

  did goldeneye I was that was set on

  owning now you now I gotta look it up

  yeah let's see here Marc Forster

  director quantum of solace solace solace

  yeah solace solace and Martin Kamel AMR

  kmo get directed casino royale and

  martin campbell did goldeneye which i

  think is probably one of the better

  what's that guy's name Pierce process


  yeah it kinda happened i'm actually

  speaking of Hank I'm actually trying to

  figure out what's a good place to start

  him on bond

  because he hasn't seen heat we actually

  watched a little bit of casino royale he

  should have some of them the fun or

  fight scenes and he really liked that a


  so and I think in pierce brosnan or even

  perform Timothy Dalton lemonade on table

  hey Dalton right either there i was

  thinking either their first movies Jones

  index we're getting a place like art the

  think the second Timothy Dalton 11 which

  almost like oh really

  almost put the franchise into the ground

  right and i think it's terrible I've I

  you know my comment you know when I

  talked about it on there with with the

  with our old friend and Benjamin was it

  just looks like it looks like an epic

  production quality wise look like an

  episode of the a-team right and which is

  not good

  the Jonas he looks like the legislature

  is too old at that point yeah but Jonas

  really liked it because it had it was

  kinda high on that the cockamamie action

  like yeah you know the one thing I had

  going for it was you know you didn't

  have to wait too long before the bullets

  are flying around and he hasn't seen

  them the recent ones that right

  no and I don't there are still there's a

  little this little yeah I don't even

  know i'm not even sure why not because I

  think they're pg-13 right they're not

  are they are they are pg-13 but that

  torture scene

  oh yeah that's pretty casino royale

  as'll a little rough here it's a little


  speaking of bad movies about the about

  the these new Apple ads that have

  everybody very upset

  I mean so they like the one so they

  unveiled three new ads and I i guess

  that the idea the other thing that ties

  them together is there about it at the

  Genius apple genius and it's this kid

  there's like they've got one guy who's

  like you know he's now like the the

  prototypical apples genius huh

  I I i like the one I think the one is

  okay I think the one is bad i think that

  the one where the guy buys the the the

  other computer yeah I think that's

  actually pretty good at you think that's

  the good one I do I think that's the

  real and which one do you think because

  i like i like the one in the airplane

  that's the one I think is ok i like the

  main one that's that's made a and then I

  could I don't know I think they're both

  ok I think they're both not bad at all i

  don't and only the worthy of creating

  the one with the the guy whose wife is

  having a baby

  this is a pretty bad yes that's a bad


  it's just that again we mean yes you

  said and I think I said the same thing

  they're not for us right so what we

  think of them is really kind of

  irrelevant and I know that can Siegel

  who has made some hay by puppy Yves in

  the ad industry had worked on Apple's ad

  campaigns a decade ago has published a

  little self-published a book about what

  it was like working with steve jobs and

  apple on these ads he was pretty pretty

  hard on him and in his and I think the

  fundamental part of his argument is ok

  so these ads aren't for your typical

  aren't for existing users there for new

  users but ideally a great ad would work

  for both that it would appeal to the new

  group and not anger people the way that

  these ads of angry people and I think

  there's definitely some truth to that if

  they were truly great ads sure everybody

  would agree they're good ads but i don't

  really get the the consternation that

  these at cost

  yeah i was a little bit surprised that

  some people seem to be family opposed to

  right and I'm not singing their praises

  I don't think I mean I think that best

  my my take on them is roughly a

  ambivalent but I got a lot of it i got

  at most most in a long time

  accusations of it

  no this is proof that John groupers in

  the bag for Apple he even he can't

  criticize these awful awful ads but i

  cannot get it you know i mean like i

  don't know what they want from the I I

  mean I my support just because I'm

  ambivalent should i turn the dial up to

  11 and and rip them apart i don't

  understand that mean I'd have given my

  honest take on them

  what's interesting is that nobody see we

  did not have this reaction to the

  celebrity ads know and I don't I wonder

  why that is

  they're not really any better and I mean

  there are better i don't know AI think i

  think that by me personally i like the

  Mayday add more than any of the

  celebrity ads yeah I don't know the

  Mayday one isn't bad i don't know that

  both not been there just aren't great

  I don't know right right but i think

  another but neither the celebrity ones

  and nobody seemed to really pay

  attention to those it was when they

  started using the genius that suddenly

  and the one thing that underscores all

  this and I do think it would be

  different the thing that I think the x

  factor is that Steve Jobs's is dead and

  has been in the ground for a while now

  whereas if he had you know stay ahead of

  the cancer for another year and we're

  still alive today I don't any and they

  released the exact same ads I don't

  think the criticism would have been

  anywhere near what we've seen I think

  it's all driven by this see the

  company's going downhill flying off a

  cliff because steve jobs is dead

  yeah and the timing I guess after after

  the hugely disappointing quarterly

  results us could take out that then you

  i think it was you had a good take on

  that that it's the headlines were so bad

  on the choreography salts because it's

  all about Apple's miss that they had to

  miss they missed they had a missed first

  Miss rare mr. Apple and nobody explains

  what it is exactly they're missing right

  that the what it is they're missing is

  you explain this

  they're just missing what the Wall

  Street analysts think they were going to

  report right that I mean it's there it's

  the wall street analyst estimates and

  it's like an average of the wall street

  analysts estimates

  and what they were going to report right

  so every quarter i guess every company

  does this where the company's says

  here's what we hear is our results and

  here's what we think we're going to do

  in the coming quarter and apple exceeded

  its own estimates which are of course

  famously low

  I mean but it's smart that they always

  pick Apple publishes estimates for the

  coming quarter that are like we know

  this thing we know we can be we can hit

  right and then you never know I mean

  something get anywhere they could get a

  better surprise a bad surprise in the

  middle of the quarter and right i mean

  that's why they do that right and then

  the the analysts look at apple's numbers

  and pick numbers higher than that and

  say this is what we you know this is

  where think we're really going to do and

  for four quarters and quarters and

  quarters Apple kept beating those

  estimates but they're just guesses

  they're just guesses from these guys and

  some of these guys we all know are very

  very dump

  I mean they say they're on the record

  you could look at my website your web

  site you a lot of these guys I for years

  and years have a track record of saying

  some really really dumb things about

  Apple these guys are not that smart some

  of them are some of them are very smart

  but some of them are not that smart and

  they just average them together and

  apples numbers that they released a

  little bit under what's what these guys

  were saying especially on the i think

  was the iphone sales in particular

  even though they sold 26 million of them

  and bottom line they still made like the

  most profit and revenue that they've

  ever made in a q3 in the company's

  history the only top their revenue

  estimate by a billion dollars making

  some revenue and was whether the revenue

  profit can't remember now just a billion

  i will say though that the that the

  stockton it didn't seem like investors

  actually panicked or you know went by

  the headlines like yeah i think this i

  think the stock dropped the next day but

  it dropped by less than the S&P 500 they

  actually beat the market the next day I

  think you could problem in i think if

  you wanted to make money on that you'd

  have to do it had to do it in

  after-hours trading because it did seem

  like after hours and it took a hit and a

  course did you know dryly noted as he

  often does

  that the stock went back to where it was

  at levels not seen since jun 29 and I

  don't know what Apple has to do with an

  ad to make people happy now at this

  point I feel like they could do anything

  and then people are going to say these

  ads think yeah and also i guess i think

  i did the the iconic I I mean the thing

  that I thought maybe they could have

  done better was I didn't know that I

  didn't seem to me like picking a genius

  was necessarily the right thing to go

  with from a sort of iconic corporate


  no they don't have nooooo i think i

  think part of it too is that they wanted

  to have some new ads for the Olympics

  they don't have new products to announce


  yeah I and what did they have that

  nobody else has and they've got that's

  the apple retail stores

  yeah I but I don't even know I don't

  think they can't shoot one in an apple

  store because that's the I don't know

  there's no concept there to have you how

  do you pitch the apple stores to people

  without showing apple stores are doing

  just look out nice our stores look you

  know so I think you need a little spooky

  story like this i'm not sure that the

  premise is that much sillier or worse

  than the imac i'm a pc thing that ran

  for years

  well I just thought that you know as the

  face of your company

  the two previous big ad campaigns had

  the mac itself and then private prior to

  that it was Mac users like you right and

  then now we're now it's the guy who

  helps you with your mac which you know i

  think it you know it it says to

  potential buyers don't worry about it we

  got this guy he can help you out right

  I really you know and I just can't you

  know it's just so hard to put yourself

  in that mindset of somebody who's never

  bought an apple computer but is thinking

  about it now do not know anybody in here

  is your as your families and friends

  circle so yeah pretty much

  so completely pretty much I had it is

  yeah amy amy has a cousin who was with

  her cousins have some college-age girls

  and and one of them is going off to be a

  freshman this year and they wanted I i

  think that i think her older sister has

  a macbook to though i'm not sure but i

  know i know that they used to you know

  they used by pcs and that she's getting

  a macbook pro two to take the college

  and they wanted to know doesn't come

  with Wi-Fi and what's up

  I you know and that was like the only

  question and and then it I you know and

  I'm not making fun of my they don't know

  yeah i mean i was i there like a serious

  question they had like hey this thing

  comes with regular Wi-Fi right and it's

  like oh yeah definitely

  you cannot buy you can't get it without

  the Wi-Fi I mean it's you're all set

  and did they need like a base station or

  something right as i guess it could be

  confusing as Apple brands and airport I

  mean maybe

  yeah they don't know maybe you think

  it's something else now I don't think

  they do that anymore i think that like

  when you go up to the menu and mountains

  stations the base stations are but yeah

  probably not the yeah I know I just say

  yes as Wi-Fi right I'm but now i don't

  really have anybody in that mindset but

  I guess I you know I guess I know people

  like that i guess one of the other dads

  who is coaching little league with me

  this year is you know it's so hard like

  what do you do what did you know and

  trying to explain people that is I do

  and and you know I guess he googled me

  then you know because any seem like he

  de he kind of had an idea of what I did

  and it was not on any kind of gave me

  that you know i'm thinking about getting

  getting getting rid of all my crap and

  just getting some apple stuff like that

  like an android phone and so he did in

  fact switch to a iphone during the

  season but I think he's going to switch

  to a mac to also my account my account

  no that's right i've talked about this

  my count yeah 3 Dell laptops on this

  desk and he hits the ball and says that

  that that it takes like 90 seconds after

  he opens the lid for the for them to let

  him live

  in the windows and stuff he has an ipad

  now and I think he's you know he loves

  it so much that i wouldn't be surprised

  if he's he's got macbook probably three

  macbooks by next year

  yeah Karen's parents still use is her

  dad as as a I think it's HP has an older

  HP and we left we gave him an ipad we're

  back visiting a few weeks back

  so I'm trying to I can't emphasize

  enough for my account how important the

  wake from sleep thing is and I always

  not in its you know I'm sure it's one of

  those things where if you buy a

  brand-new windows laptop brand new

  taking home that it wakes from sleep

  pretty fast and falls asleep pretty fast

  forever but I think it's just one of

  those things where I get the impression

  from him that you know that Windows is

  still windows in that three or four

  months after you and the thing that

  doesn't it doesn't wake up so fast i get

  the same impression from my

  father-in-law to know they're just just

  over time it just starts to grading and

  right it's like Windows is always sort

  of been like that like it's it's like

  fruit and I think I think I mean that

  used to happen with my mac too because I

  used to be much more loose about what I

  would install and I think I'm more

  careful now about making sure that I

  don't get a whole bunch of startup items

  right yeah and it seems every time I

  printer of course the printer soft the

  other somehow end up with a some startup

  item for the printer which just just

  drives me nuts

  best thing I ever had one of the best

  things that they ever did was the way

  they've changed printing with iOS where

  your did you are just you the printer

  maker are not allowed to install

  anything on this device you've just

  here's the protocol we support if you

  want to be able to if you want people to

  be able to print from their iPads to

  your printer

  it's all on your side yeah you know so

  that was it that was a big that was a

  big complaint when the ipad came as

  people say oh I can't print I was like

  man if Apple could kill printing Apple

  could just shoot printing in the back of

  the head that would be the best thing

  you could ever do well in the problem

  isn't it's not printing per se it's that

  you've always had to install the general

  yeah that's always to get a new it's

  always a miserable experience right i

  remember to in the old days of

  installing mac OS 10

  when it's I don't even know maybe the

  options are still there but it seems

  like now with the the lion and mountain

  lion you just downloaded from the App

  Store you you click a button get your

  password you walk away for an hour and

  your upgraded and you don't make any

  choices you know you don't just know

  there's nothing there's like a button is

  just one button install but it used to

  be that you go through and like check

  some stuff you know you'd be like you

  want these and other languages and it's

  like not you know i mean i just looked

  like an alien

  you know mainland China I don't need

  that stuff so i'll save some megabytes

  there and it used to be that you would

  show you how big the printer drivers

  were and it was like it was like a

  gigabyte it was like yeah it would be

  like HP printer drivers and it would be

  like eight hundred megabytes yeah and

  then printer drivers and it's like well

  I you know I don't have a canon printer

  but maybe someday I'm going to have this

  macbook in a room and there's going to

  be one and maybe I guess I should

  install it i don't know but there were


  yeah absolute value

  yeah that's a good point in the middle

  look at that stuff when i upgraded to

  know I don't think they like anywhere

  and maybe that's true so after it moving

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  a little bit of motion

  you know maybe it's a waving tree in the


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  is just sitting there panting that poor

  dog needs a drink of water needs a drink

  of water and he's never gonna get it

  it's you take two little two seconds

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  it's a challenge though i really like it

  it's got the stuff the filters you can

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  the newspapers the way the flow rates in

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  everything not absolutely yeah yeah

  that's why I mean right to collect you

  want to collect the whole set you do you

  do it you don't want to be left behind

  you want to be the guy who missed the

  one thing and it's easier it is so much

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  yeah well yeah because you didn't have

  to pay tax on that at least not in

  Pennsylvania sure you have do you have

  states hilton sales oh yeah we gotta

  think it's six-and-a-half percent which

  sucks i mean i mean just ours is eat or

  something it between 8-9 or something

  like that I just feel bad for the kids

  because I remember when I was in grade

  school we had to compute the sales tax

  and when I was a kid it was six percent

  in which which is the math just doesn't

  that good and like why not like five

  percent would be a lot easier but

  six-and-a-half percent i had that's like

  a lot of carrying numbers and I that

  just makes me feel bad for the kids to

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  with six and a half percent you end up

  with the IAE got like little Danny and a

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  yeah don't even get me started on the

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  stuff around what we got we got we got

  Apple v samsung going to going to court

  he wearing your suit i am wearing my

  suit because we're doing legal analysis

  here right and and and by far away it

  seems you know a lot of this is you know

  the basic story is exactly what you

  think apples cases hey these guys ripped

  us off and Samsung's case is there's

  nothing to rip off its just a black

  rectangle and other people had touch

  screens so how can we rip them off but I

  get the impression reading out of the

  coverage so far and we're recording on

  Thursday August to that they went to

  court I think starting on Monday couple

  days ago I get the feeling though that

  that Samsung doesn't think this is going

  very well for them

  yeah I can't tell if it's that

  necessarily or if they're just you know

  laying the groundwork it's so hard to

  tell with this stuff but it because

  there's so many it's such a 12

  dimensional chess that they are

  are just laying the groundwork for an

  appeal in case they need to make an

  appeal right that but that it makes it

  seem though that it's that they're

  already thinking they're going to need

  to appeal this and so there because they

  end the the unusual story is that they

  really seem to have anger deliberately

  angered the judge where they just

  doesn't seem like a good idea

  no it really so now yeah if you're

  losing the ball game already

  you know make you might as well just go

  out there and kick dirt on the Empire

  and get thrown out because you're losing

  right but you don't want to do at the

  before the game starts to you know start

  complaining to the ump and be like you

  know you know you in general you're

  pretty crummy Empire before the game

  starts you know i mean it just doesn't

  seem like you're gonna get a lot of the

  it's going to help your help your case

  but they wanted to admit some evidence

  at the last minute and apples objection

  to this which i think is right you know

  it seems to me I mean you know what I'm

  not really a lawyer I just play one here

  on a podcast but the idea was that it

  was after the deadline that there's a

  deadline for what they call that

  discovery whatever the hell they call

  yeah there's a deadline where they say

  look whenever you want to use as

  evidence in the case you have to submit

  by this date so that the other side can

  take a look at it and prepare a response

  or an objection etc which seems fair

  you want you know you can't just pull

  stuff out of your pocket at the you know

  understand and surprise the other side

  everybody gets a chance to prepare and

  see the other guys evidence before the

  case starts in samsung like a day or two

  before the trial started said hey we

  want to add this stuff Apple is like

  what that passed the date and doesn't

  really seem like good evidence anyway

  right it's this f700 phone that they

  made in 2006 that wasn't even a

  smartphone and it had a quality pullout

  slider it was like twice as thick as an

  iphone but if you look at it

  top-down you know it it kind of looks

  like as a touchscreen smartphone black

  when you know if you don't turn it on

  and look at it straight down and squint

  your eyes and take take your glasses off

  it kind of maybe looks a little sort of

  like a modern smartphone

  it's all sort of look like iphones

  wasn't this the one that didn't come out

  until wasn't announced until after no it

  didn't come out until after and sometime

  in 2007 after the ionic been announced

  but it really you know and I think nilay

  patel at the verge had a story about it

  that I link to this week from a year ago

  I because Samsung had already been

  talking up this phone because it

  predated the iphone at least internally

  but that it was really nothing once you

  really looked at the phone it was

  nothing like an iphone or even like a

  modern samsung smartphone it wasn't even

  a smartphone there were no apps and it

  didn't you know the screen that they

  show which sort of looks like an array

  of icons in a grid which you think wow

  that's sort of like an iphone that

  wasn't even the home screen that was

  just like the settings at the home

  screen was more like a menu

  yeah yeah like and you know like that

  weird like a desktop like thing like

  Windows Phone used to have

  oh yeah i think was oh I might even been

  a Windows Phone device I don't know but

  it would look at you know it was nothing

  like an iphone and what was the other

  thing we wanted to get submitted they

  wanted to get this goofy story about

  Apple copying sony not because they had

  an actual sony device or phone that

  looked anything at all like an iPhone

  from before the iphone but because

  because a Business Week story that

  interviewed two designers from Sony

  about a new Walkman in two thousand six

  or so and and their question was how

  much was this thing inspired by the ipod

  and the sony guys said something about

  rounded corner we like rounded corners

  and as few buttons as possible

  that's all they said that was their

  comment and then internally an apple

  somebody simple what you know let's

  let's just as an exercise what would a

  sony device that adhere to those broad

  descriptions look like and an apple in

  house made their own sort of what was

  Sony device like this look like just

  based on the sony aesthetic right based

  on the sony aesthetic and you know it

  looks like an iphone 4 and he's a couple

  of buttons there are a couple of buttons

  down at the bottom of the switches

  almost and they look just like the


  and on the very first Walkman right yeah

  definitely yeah i think it was all a lie

  kamoj to the like 1979 Walkman it

  doesn't really seem to help

  Samsung's case at all really other than

  this broad description of what round

  corners and few buttons very strange but

  anyway what what the thing that really

  this really gets crazy though is that

  the judge said no you cannot admit any

  of this and so at the end of the day

  like day one of the trial samsung PR

  took all the slides that they weren't

  allowed to put in in front of the jury

  release them to the press and in a

  statement said that they hope the jury

  gets to see them through the press and

  what they said they said that it would

  be unfair if the jury did not get to see

  ya so there's a little place that has a

  little bit of a hedging in there but the

  implication release clearly seem to be

  that we hope the jury sees you know we

  weren't allowed to show it to you in

  court but we really hope the jury sees

  this when they go home and read

  techcrunch it is a silicon valley jury

  yeah yeah I saw that I saw that in the

  delay in the jury selection that there

  were a whole bunch of that was yeah that

  was pretty funny

  I mean they had apple an apple people in

  Google people of course in the jury pool

  right i also saw that they were asking

  them to prospective jurors did a

  familiar with patents do they know

  anything and there was one guy who has

  like it's like 850 patents to it because

  it works I don't worry works maybe like

  HP or something like that but he's his

  name is on like a hundred patents wonder

  if they picked them i doubt it like most

  of the time they usually try to pick

  people who don't know but maybe in

  Silicon Valley there's no way around it

  might be hard

  yeah but anyway that the judge did not

  seem happy with with that telephone

  Samsung's part well I think it's odd

  that they brought that up after


  yeah it seems like the of it sounds like

  they already knew about it beforehand

  right because they were talking about

  last year and and maybe they maybe this

  is another attack

  dick to to try and cast doubt on the


  I guess sort of the sort of say okay

  we're gonna do we're gonna bring this up

  late will try and get in they won't let

  us get it in and then we'll throw arms

  up and said all things the Sham right

  and I've already gotten some email from

  people who are you know and you know and

  God bless him I feel like I'm doing

  something good that they can at least

  and to read my site but people who are

  on the other side of things and really

  are sort of hoping that Apple loses this

  case people who are you don't think it

  has no marriage people who don't really

  like Apple and the one guy has said that

  this is you know he's convinced in a

  it's just like a statement of fact that

  the judges had it in the bag for Apple

  all along which I really don't think has

  been the case she's actually you know

  she seems like she's kind of unhappy

  with both sides that they weren't able

  to settle right you know it seems like

  she's pretty upset that this is even

  gone to trial that this should have been

  settled before you know they should have

  been able to hash out a check that

  Samsung could write that that seems to

  be our biggest beef yeah I mean she's in

  so now they're in the middle of this and

  she's she wants it she wanted it that

  you want to not to not get to this point

  what did i read i just read to this one

  thing I'd this is where I just don't get

  it is that i read that Apple what Apple

  want is they want like 2.8 billion

  dollars from Samsung which is you know

  that's a lot of money even for Apple

  it's a lot of money to you know you

  don't you don't just leave 2.8 billion

  dollars in the couch cushions but it's

  not that much money right they've got

  like a hundred and eleven million

  billion dollars in the bank they made

  8.8 billion in profit profit last


  I mean an extra 2.8 billion i mean

  that's nice i mean if if let's just say

  that that day it works out exactly how

  apple says it they wanted to that the

  jury rules and apples favor

  they say give them exactly what Apple

  wants two point eight billion dollars

  well that's that's nice but is it worth

  everything you're going through I'm not

  sure I guess so you know how much time I

  mean what other lawyers doing anyway

  right there lawyer James lawyer during

  everyday anyway they might as well be

  luring 4 2.8 billion dollars in damages

  and is it is it more the point of what

  it's less what it's worth to apple and

  what it's worth the samsung TV

  as you know as Microsoft is doing with

  android by trying to sort of killed by a

  thousand Knicks right you know just

  basically charge it make it cost enough

  to produce an android phone where it's

  no better than producing a windows right

  and maybe it was also about steering

  Samsung's future decisions how closely

  they're going to try to copy out apple


  yeah going forward in some of the stuff

  the Apple presented I mean again you

  know I I you know I tend to see stuff i

  mean i think apples got a pretty good

  case but uh i don't know i think that

  the sum of the stuff that they've had in

  Apple's evidence that's going in seems

  really pretty damning my favorite is

  that it's from a samsung internal the

  investigation into why there were so

  many returns of galaxy tabs at best buys

  so they went to the best buy people and

  really well one of the reasons people

  are returning it and the mother of your

  most frequently cited reason for why

  people were returning the galaxy tab

  John I they thought it was an ipad they

  thought it was a night with the really

  seems like it's exactly apples argument

  all along really does that isn't related

  Samsung's own investigation into this it

  wasn't like Apple went there and you

  know yet you can accuse apple of hiring

  pollsters who go into a best buy and

  cherry-pick people who might be confused

  and user Samsung's own investigation

  into what you know why people returning

  them and what was the other the other

  thing I thought was real damning was

  that that the emails from google to them

  saying hey this these things looked at

  once like ipad you got to change this up

  and they didn't change any of it like an

  example apples and apples you saw that

  HP tablet which the back of it looked

  exactly like an iPad yeah i mean it and

  they're not really pursuing I mean I

  guess they're so they're pursuing some

  other like HTC and some other

  manufacturers are and motorola yeah hp1

  that HP teased in an Olympic commercial

  it's like an unannounced product but it

  looks a lot like an iPad

  where is that was aluminum device with

  rounded edges and a black plastic strip

  at the top resume rainwear the antennas

  are yeah which I'm sure is just the

  natural evolution of them of the devices

  ring as a call all devices were normally

  ended up there it's like the it's like

  from something from like star trek into

  the next generation where evolution on a

  planet always ends up in a humanoid

  Muhammad form and I just have different

  bumping heads right exactly

  for years these guys these guys have

  green years

  yeah like they're completely different

  just an actor it's a chance that we need

  to address an actor / the original

  Klingon didn't even have the bumpy heads

  the reason I just they think goatees

  just go to you and then they what they

  do they explain that away by saying that

  they were like the vehicle yeah the

  Klingons didn't want the Federation to

  know what they really look like now is

  that it was a disease and the only way i

  preciate sisters that was just a disease

  in the only way to cure the Klingon

  population was for a time they had to

  inject them with human DNA and so that's

  why they look human

  I believed I think that's the case yeah

  sure somebody in your audience will will

  correct me if I'm right they had goatees

  yeah it's great

  speaking of hundreds of billions of

  dollars Andrew Ross Sorkin had a as blog

  post on the new york times dealbook blog

  with his suggested buying less for Apple

  who should Apple acquire and i think i

  think the bottom line is it shows just

  how honestly I think it's just how hard

  it is to spell a hundred to spend that

  type of money his ideas were nuanced

  that the dragon naturallyspeaking people

  which makes a lot of sense to me

  I'm actually sort of surprised that

  Apple hasn't bought them already and

  I'll get back to that in a second but

  that's only one to make sense to me

  yeah and i think their market cap is

  around six billion so figure with a

  premium that probably caused Apple maybe

  like eight billion

  others may be to buy them out on Twitter

  steady that's not going to happen path I

  mean what lie yeah why

  rim and now use your in the silly zone

  already right and andrew ross sorkin is

  a good writer i think is a good blog

  post it's not a bad idea for a post like

  who could Apple by but I think once when

  the number four is written

  yeah I guess it's I mean you really you

  have to know what other companies are

  out what other smaller companies are out

  the right i think there's a there's a

  there's an inclination to write about

  Apple buying somebody big right because

  that sounds sexier and it just doesn't

  seem like they're going to do that right

  there there BMO is more just going out

  and buying smaller strategic you know

  smaller companies that have a strategic

  asset that they need

  yeah they buy technology i can't

  remember the last time they bought a


  yeah I'm I i I'm drawing a complete

  blank on that but like they bought a

  bunch of napping companies announced

  famously like the one company had these

  fancy pants 3d maps which now or they're

  exactly like the 3d maps we have in ios6

  so they bought technology you know they

  bought the the system-on-a-chip guys a

  couple years ago remember that the

  second you company

  yeah you know I a year or two before

  they started making their own society on

  the chips for iOS devices stuff like

  that day by technology i can't see them

  buying a product you could argue that

  nuance you know is more of a technology

  than a product I don't know what they

  make from Dragon I mean it

  they have a six billion dollar market

  caps I'm sure they have you know revenue

  and profit but they be buying it just

  for the speech recognition so i guess

  the reason I'm a little i was a little

  surprised it didn't buy them at first is

  that they seem like they're bet they're

  they're complete completely that all of

  Siri on nuances speech recognition

  presumably because it's you know is the

  best they could get right and i think

  it's very good but it just seems unusual

  me that they would put a whole feature

  on top

  that technology that they don't know

  yeah and what about uh will I forget

  what you said about square

  well I just don't see why they wouldn't

  build it themselves themselves that I

  would think like is there anything what

  would they be getting from square that

  that would put them ahead of just doing

  it themselves

  I mean presumably with nuance with the

  speech recognition the reason they're

  not doing it themselves is it's a really

  really hard problem that nuance has

  already solved really well and that they

  couldn't you know they don't have an

  in-house means of doing what nuance does

  better than new ones so license it

  whereas i don't think there's anything

  square does that Apple couldn't just do

  on its own but on the other hand i

  wouldn't be surprised if you found out

  if the news came out next month that

  apple bought square i wouldn't shock me

  at all

  I mean because they're very design

  oriented company yeah i mean the goofy

  little dingus that that you put in the

  earphone thing that's I mean that's good

  that that's not going to fly at Apple

  that time but in terms of whatever

  partnerships they've already set up and

  retailers around the country that might


  and then the last one is the last

  suggestion with sprint which is just

  like right now you're just making sure

  you're just making things up right

  you're just making things up because I

  mean what it means that the swimming it

  needed the whole story of the iphone is

  that selling more and more as it expands

  to more and more carriers that the ideas

  that they're expanding more carriers if

  apple bought sprint what do you think

  verizon and AT&T did they would

  immediately stops I mean I think they

  would stop selling the iphone yeah i

  mean the point is to make is to try and

  make the carrier's more relevant to

  write instead of going to the carrier

  business right

  I think presumably long-term I mean

  let's say 20 years from now i don't have

  I think everybody kind of hopes that

  we've got some kind of wireless

  networking that doesn't involve these


  you know the one that will move on to

  something a big new thing i would rather

  you know I think of apples going to

  spend ten billion dollars on wireless

  networking it would make a lot more

  sense to put it into some kind of

  next-generation technology with

  long-range and stuff like that

  in and not by buying a you know ya phone

  company in which case they buy some

  small company that was starting in that

  field right one thing he didn't suggest

  and I'm kind of surprised because it's

  always what comes up and in fact a lot

  of technology companies they do this

  microsoft has done this google really

  hasn't been yahoo you know certainly has

  is buying media companies right like I'm

  surprised you didn't said suggest disney

  as a target now when I mean don't ya i

  guess i just i'm not saying i will never

  get his neck but I'm now I know you're

  going to just say look if you're gonna

  pissed you know 10 20 billion dollars

  away on the acquisition why not disney

  right i mean they're even if you would

  just ignore the fact that Steve Jobs his

  family is the single largest shareholder

  and that they've you know got an

  existing relationship whatever it just

  seems like that's what big tech

  companies do and they have money hope

  burning a hole in your pocket by a movie

  studio I don't think that's I mean that

  you know it's a terrible idea

  that's yeah so so I'm glad he didn't

  have it on there right

  kodak wonder why didn't say by kodak

  kodak yeah the patterns

  yeah I think Kodak is one of those ones

  that they might end up buying but it's

  gonna be after you know it's just a


  yeah just it's just a bunch of patents

  just about two pieces of paper that's so

  sad thing about kodak you know this I i

  might be making this up I'm not

  wikipedians i'm doing this remember is

  because the guy who founded the company

  was something something eastman right

  yeah I you know where the kodak came

  from uh started Houston i think i used

  to know this the way I remember is that

  he just thought it sounded cool

  oh really yeah but maybe I'm wrong maybe

  i should i should wikipedia this I like

  the sound of that down

  it is a cool mist totally makeup yeah

  yeah it's a cool name and just there we


  you're checking John Eastern not see

  wikipedia said you know Wikipedia

  is you know if it says in wikipedia it's

  true the letter K was a favorite of

  Eastman's he is quoted as saying it

  seems a strong incisive sort of letter

  in his mom he and his mother divides the

  name kodak with an anagram set eastman

  said that there were three principal

  concepts he used in creating the name

  should be short one cannot mispronounce

  it and it could not resemble anything

  would be associated with anything but

  kodak it's a great name really had yeah

  yeah I think it's odd having a favorite

  letter but odd for an adult to have a

  favorite letter don't have a lot more on

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  got a couple of stories isn't news but

  it somehow it's it's come up this last

  week is the idea that the carriers in

  the US and i think around the world i

  got some email from a guy who works at a

  car phone store and I think Ireland is a

  carrier's direct their salespeople they

  tell them hey guy comes in and says he

  wants a smart phone try to steer him

  towards these android things not the

  iphone and that's not news but yeah but

  I thought that the one story the story

  was pretty good with this guy Jeff's

  turn one into a verizon store and spent

  40 minutes and he admits he himself is

  not a big he you know use the F word he

  says I'm certainly not an apple fanboy i

  was in your store to buy and

  android phone he went in there to buy an

  android phone but this is what he heard

  these are some quotes he heard from

  verizon sales staff to customers they

  released the iphone 4s because Steve

  Jobs died so they just threw in a couple

  more features and pushed it out

  that's my favorite that might be my

  faith that day could you just imagine

  i'd just imagine like it is it was

  shouldering ship it will see alert tim

  cook and and jony ive and you're like

  just so sad about Steve you know what

  let's just let's just slap some more

  features onto this phone and in his

  memory where we'll just just shit out a

  new iphone

  that's the way that they're gonna i'm at

  that's factually incorrect on so many

  levels like what is the thought process

  there because Steve Jobs died like that

  the cause and effects with Steve Jobs

  barrier they threw in a couple of monkey

  the monkey was off their back and now

  they could do what I really wanted to do

  apples servers are really small and when

  you use Syria normally redirects to

  google anyway it's actually not not too

  far off the mark I guess every icon

  looks like on your homescreen it's

  really hard to find applications you

  know where only you know where it's even

  harder to find applications in the dock

  in the android store

  yeah I got a I got my wife I'd nexus 7

  oh yeah yeah she wanted she wanted

  something to read books in bed and I

  didn't want something I asked her if she

  wanted an ipad and she didn't want

  something that big

  this is really just using it to read

  books and so I was like yeah you know i

  get i get the next guy won't try it out

  anyway and stoner box and so and you

  know and she's only using as an ear ear

  right but I you know but I peruse the

  google play store and it was really that

  was really because Hank wanted to

  destroy the weekend we got it we went to

  the beach and Hank wanted to try it and

  play some games on it and so I tried to

  download some some games and i really

  had a hard time finding anything that

  was that good yeah I'm it does seem like

  the best apps are all the ones that are

  already built into it like you don't

  there's aren't there aren't any third

  party apps that are last have yeah and

  what else did I heard

  oh i just read today Fraser Spears had a

  review of the nexus 7 he said yeah the

  kindle app is just like the iPhone

  Kindle app except font rendering is


  that's but it's and I like the form

  factor and I think damn freaks at a

  piece on macworld about how that makes

  the case for a smaller ipad night I kind

  of agree with that yeah i think that the

  the just I think with it the consensus

  that everybody is coming to is that the

  10-inch tablet is is sort of a really

  great size for general-purpose mobile

  tablet computer but it's too big for it

  to use it as an ereader yeah

  meaning you're just sitting somewhere

  and just holding it in one hand in

  reading something really long you know

  that it's it's just not really that good

  you know that there's a reason why all

  the other all the dedicated readers are

  more like the six-inch sighs yeah and

  the thing I like about i mean the thing

  I like about it is that that seven inch

  size really fits in you can hold it in

  your hand and your fingers can go on

  either side of it will release my hand

  and I don't think you'll be able to do

  that with a 7.8 inch i wonder i do

  wonder about that like that's you know

  obviously the the

  the rampant rumors are that Apple's

  smaller ipad is going to be 7.5 inches

  yeah and so I wonder if you know I

  definitely and I I've linked to it and

  and explain it and it in the the math

  really does seem even without trying the

  math seems really solid that usability

  wise it'll be really nice that the apps

  won't seem too small to use that the

  touch targets will be good if you just

  run existing ipad apps at that size but

  I do wonder if by making it that big

  that they overshoot the it's really nice

  to hold in one hand

  yeah but I have a theory about that too

  and that maybe it's not so much of

  thought so I don't didn't built-in

  handle in the backyard kickstand

  kickstand know it's like a glove

  just put it on your backhand like a good

  big oven mitt

  no I think it might be is it how much of

  it is about the size of the ipad as we

  know and how much is wait weights but

  it's what I think it's be I think it's

  mostly wait I think it's mostly wait

  because you think you know I mean the

  but I don't think it's alway as i do

  think it is nice to just be able to get

  going to hold it to hold it in your hand

  but I I mean for me reading on the ipad

  laying on my back or whatever and having

  that I mean I would i do I curl up the

  smart cover and I hold it by the Smart

  Cover I just you know I think the way

  you go about designing things you pick a

  couple of criteria that you're going to

  consider to be your your primary ones

  and they're the ones you try to

  compromise the least on and then

  everything else is where you make these

  compromises to meet these goals and it's

  a lot better to have a couple of things

  that really stand out than to try to

  optimize everything and end up with

  every aspect of it being mediocre so I

  think 11 area where the ipad as we know

  it they haven't really optimized for is

  wait it's not you know compared to like

  a laptop it's not heavy nobody ever said

  point this ipad is killing me but it's

  it's not a super lightweight device it's

  not super thin I have a theory my

  thinking is if this ipad mini thing is

  true that maybe weight becomes a primary

  design goal

  and that it's really really thin and so

  it comes at the expense of something

  like a red you know that's why it

  doesn't have a red who doesn't

  supposedly have a Retina display because

  then it can use a smaller battery so

  it's just retina display takes more

  battery suit with much smaller battery

  it's and then it's then the way the I

  the ipod touch is them right just sort

  of insanely them

  yeah exactly that's exactly I didn't

  think of that but I'm going to steal

  that it's on it

  yeah so in a way that the ipod touch is

  remarkably thinner than iphone maybe

  this thing the ipad mini is remarkably

  thinner than the idea as we know it and

  that that's it that's a great selling

  point right now it's the one-handed ipad

  that's what I'm thinking we should we

  should call somebody that Apple it's

  that make that happen

  anything else I got a few i got a few

  things like a what we call my fuse

  follow ups

  yeah I last week's show with mgc where I

  i somehow i forgot the third key to

  success on the internet I i mentioned

  the coffee i mentioned that sodastream

  for making your over carbonated water

  forgot to mention that you've got to

  have a clicky keyboard seems inexcusable

  how does the one that then that's the 1i

  don't have which I find you and I got

  explains where I am

  my wife would love it if I got rid of a

  couple of these i'll send one out to

  actually do i'm actually just looking

  over my shoulder here and I see 336 era

  keyboards but the reason I forgot it is

  i was actually I was on vacation last

  week I recorded that show with mg while

  i was on vacation so I didn't have my

  clicky keyboard in front of me for I am

  out of sight out of mind out of sight

  out of mind and without that if i had

  the keyboard / remember it

  that's why you need to have one

  that's why you need to have one

  keep it in your mind I think it's the

  clicking that reminds you so my

  apologies though to anybody who isn't

  familiar with my three-step theory to

  internet success and it's going to be a

  seminar i'm going to take the seminar

  around the country this fall and I'm

  going to teach you how to make fussy

  coffee how to over carbonate your own

  water and how to type on the keyboard to

  me all day seminar come into a college

  campus near you but I my apologies

  anybody to listen to last week's show

  and thought that you could get away with

  just the coffee in the SodaStream that's

  never get an explosion when you over

  carbonate not yet how many many whistles

  you do I idea 30 i do for the form now I

  think the gaskets are going bad not

  there yet i'm not there the gaskets are

  going bad on the ceiling on my well

  that's what I would think would happen

  yeah and everything through I swear that

  the blood-gas condom the plastic tops on

  that the bottle caps to get these

  reusable bottle comes to put the plastic

  tops are getting cracked so many

  scandals and I yeah you should listen

  one of those lids just gonna come flying

  often right when i open when like in the

  end of the day that I had made at the

  beginning of the day it is sort of like

  opening a bottle of champagne

  yeah mix it's a very satisfying pop

  though that's really what happened your

  hand write it shine let me show you off

  the ship just sodastream accident so

  three max the other one is a technical

  and this is actually a good one is i

  forgot i actually knew this and I'd

  forgotten about it but mg and I last

  week we're talking about the gatekeeper

  and mountain lion and that with the

  default setting you can open an unsigned

  app and I've noticed a lot of developers

  it seems like you know not talking about

  App Store stuff stuff you download

  directly from the developers websites

  that they a lot of the apps i've been

  downloading are already signed with

  these free

  I don't know a concert tickets to get

  from apple yeah but even if you have one

  that's not signed you can open it

  without changing your gatekeeper

  systemwide preferences did you know

  about this no you can just do that one

  app yeah you control click on the app to

  get a contextual menu and then choose

  open from the contextual menu and it'll

  just open and I the things that one so

  just that once we will stick just once

  well no no it was just for that one app

  and then yeah it the system applies the

  I'm gonna forget that the lingo but it

  gives it the the credential that says

  okay this is a known good app this app

  is known to be good so you're alright

  which is a great great tip because that

  way you can run gatekeeper at the

  default more secure setting where it

  only runs signed apps in appstore apps

  but if you have other apps that aren't

  signed you can open them without

  diddling the settings you just control

  click on it and choose open and I guess

  the thinking is that nobody's gonna do

  that by accident and it's sort of an

  express anybody who knows about this

  shortcut anybody who even knows that

  contextual menus exist if you've done

  this and choose open

  ok we trust you you're not you know you

  don't need to have your hand help on


  yeah you have the have the gatekeeper

  turned on i have it set to mac app store

  and identify developers right now right

  i think everybody and especially once

  you know about this shortcut is really

  you know unless you're for some odd

  reason downloading unsigned applications

  all day every day you know and it proved

  to be an annoyance but I think once you

  know about this shortcut there's no

  reason for anybody not to run it with

  that that's the default setting i think

  it's i think it's great

  did what Stace the four second is the

  second the did you talk about the

  September 12 no i didn't

  yeah I didn't I don't know what there is

  to say about that really but i don't

  really have much that either seems get

  the ideas i I'm or the guy that I

  morning if they've actually gotten a lot

  of scoops lately they've been doing some

  good work we are

  what's your friend's name their Rene

  Rene Ritchie and he said he's got some

  good sources but anyway he reported that

  Apple is going to have another

  sent on the 12 sep tember it's a

  wednesday make sense like Wednesday's in

  Tuesday's 12 sep tember and they're

  going to announce the new iphone and the

  ipad mini that's what he says and then

  Jim Dalrymple gave it a yep he gave the

  i-phone part

  yep mmm he did not pull I don't know if

  that was intentional or not but he

  pulled the the part about the iphone and

  said yet

  yep after the close reading of ya down


  oh yes you have this is you know I'm a

  professional and you have to pay


  I i have nothing two to add on that I

  know nothing i well i know a lot but I

  don't know anything about any events

  sounds right to me

  well some and then today some Wall

  Street analysts said I think it was shot

  while but i'm not positive said oh no

  but I've heard from parts suppliers

  they're not shipping parts until the

  late September

  I don't know but yeah I don't I don't I

  don't take anything I think the I more

  story was an announcement September 12th

  goes on sale nine days later which also

  makes sense because Apple tend to not

  you know release products on fridays

  yeah and i think in theory in general if

  they're ready assuming everything is

  actually ready to go

  I just makes sense to me that apple

  would prefer to do it mid-september than


  yeah we think so right you get much more

  time before Christmas right more time

  before Christmas everything you know

  october bizarrely is already a big

  Christmas buying month so yeah I don't

  know yeah I'm sure that you're not

  you're not running out in October buying

  Christmas presents and i know that i am

  NOT gotta know what is CI is so sits

  just sick i think i was a you know where

  it came up but i know is talking to our

  friend pocket fascist of rogue amoeba

  Fame about it and it was literally it

  was the beginning of june it was the

  beginning of june not even the end of

  june beginning of june and there was a

  back-to-school sale back to school

  I mean I mean that's my kid wasn't even

  out of school yet and as a kid that

  would make me angry

  all in all but it there any time because

  anytime you know you're going through

  summer and anytime you see that the back

  to school special you know that

  commercials come on ours forever just

  drive me

  Oh God by getting a piece of dogshit

  your newspaper exactly always horrible

  you just get your looking for like the

  funny pages of the sports yeah and then

  there's a circular and then Thomas says

  hey you're going back to school in a

  couple weeks and there's a queue a

  picture of a twelve-year-old boy wearing

  a brand-new pair of stiff jeans my god

  it's just horrible with that now you

  know with that you know kid who's a 12

  year old model for department store

  circulars smile on his face I guess that

  I guess that like like the Apple ads

  though is not for the kids

  no it's for the it's for the parents and

  the parents are thinking the opposite

  they're thinking

  good god I can't wait for this kid to go

  back to school let's go get him

  something we're gonna get you some jeans

  today Jimmy what it's like a month and I

  have a gun and you know they're buying a

  different size 2 and Jimmy I'm Jimmy

  will be a different sockets but it's

  only goes to school right and it's like

  a by that you gotta be heard that is

  where it is wearing flood pants

  ok pero getting his ass kicked all right

  I'm where I I say we call it a show

  alright I'm i think we have to do we hid

  it under an hour

  I think we might have if we do we win a

  prize if we get the show prize so keep

  your eye on the mailbox

  I don't think John Smoltz thanks for

  being here very nice website dotnet is

  that right is that does correct

  it's both actually it's calm and done

  thank god

  very nice very nice