The Talk Show

8: Like Giving Natalie Portman a Trucker Cap, with Merlin Mann


  so you're talking about you gotta get a

  hammer to fix your macbook pro right

  I've got a four-year-old macbook pro in

  the end and i put to death a tough age

  55 years old I don't know that mean i

  think still has a silver keyboard

  you know I mean ancient and I put the

  SSD in there by hand and used a hammer

  because it's the only tool i have an ass

  i don't have any of these little

  screwdrivers and stuff like that and it

  works and it was it's a remarkable

  upgrade really was and I just the whole

  debate over you know the fact that you

  can upgrade the new macbook pro ball but

  that this one putting a seven hundred

  dollar SSD in there it was like getting

  a new machine my desktop machine is this

  four-year-old macbook pro and i put an

  SSD in there myself couple years ago

  gave it a big upgrade but I you know I

  don't have good tools i use the hammer

  instead of these little precision

  screwdrivers I don't know what else I

  did in their thing seems very fast but

  it it doesn't do I owe consistently so

  when I do like a recording it'll get you

  know i'll get like two minutes of good

  stuff in it just hiccups like it it's

  not good so I can't use our first guy so

  I used my macbook air which is a

  secondary computer for skype but it's

  also the machine on which I try out like

  things like mountain lion with him and

  I'd I think mountain lion the latest

  version of mountain beta 2 beta so I'm

  not complaining really but it seems to

  have had a bit of an allergic reaction

  with the mac picture get your hard drive

  really have something to do with your

  USB well now on this machine i don't i

  don't know i don't either something's

  going on with a bound line the latest

  beta on this because like for example

  like one of the reasons I was a little

  late starting this cause i just opened

  it up and macbook Gary open it up and it

  should be ready to go right and instead

  I got the beach ball and the beach ball

  just never went away and that's the sort

  of thing like i have never had problems

  like that with people at the login

  screen I yeah well you know what the 1i

  have it set up so that after it wakes up

  its sleep that it you know prompt you

  for anything but yet at all it with the


  I'm not now i have gotten it goes to

  sleep and you know it's euthanized like

  as I just won't come up

  sometimes where you left it we'll talk

  about that this is

  now not really kinda who cares I mean

  it's a beta I'm sure they're gonna fix

  it you know before that thing actually

  ships but I just don't want you to stay

  in the Good Book says i'm saying i'm not

  on the radar screen but you need to

  watch that stuff

  yeah but what are they gonna do you mean

  by much don't state secrets you know I

  mean I mean what the beta release of an

  operating system but a little little

  unstable right on a you know one

  particular model of macbook air i have

  not if you know they do sometimes on

  forums on flora what we're if you're

  going to learn how to start bath salts

  in a different way the way you say it is

  i think you say it's a friend who's not

  me right

  this is the parliaments ok so friend is

  not mean that may be running that on the

  macbook air pretty much with no problems

  but the problem is now for myself not my

  friend my i was very bummed to find out

  that my macpro just gonna run it

  it's too old they want to talk about

  right now it's just it's not gonna go

  i'm not in the window won't run a candy

  mountain lion I i try to get it from the

  thing I mean friend of mine tried to let

  me start over

  I it's not gonna run my macpro it's

  totally bone in my head it's making me

  rethink my entire setup here get to

  those stages like every like five years

  we go

  hmm might be time to really rethink a

  lot of these things

  yeah exactly i got it i mean i got i got

  you know for drives in here i recently

  probably unadvisedly switched from one

  terabyte everything to two terabyte

  stuff which I'm already kind of

  regretting but you know I gotta get a

  butt ton of space on this thing I can

  you know keep everything hooked up I

  don't have thunder bolt anything yet so

  if i wanted to do all that hooking up

  with your real pain

  you know I mean but uh I'm gonna miss

  that I don't want to do with this thing

  I have to I I it's just it's just a big

  shell I don't know what to do with it I

  can sell it right because if i sell it

  somebody's gonna have to like cut the

  whole thing and put all new robot parts

  it right if they want to run online

  yeah I guess I don't people like these

  are the times for the case so they can

  make mashed raised and stuff people of

  Marco eat you want to sell one of these

  Marco thirty-eight thousand dollars

  today for a macro and he bought he

  bought the

  the the quote quote new haha that was a

  pretty lights upgrade is that correct

  yeah i mean almost almost almost almost

  really really featherweight it's like

  this right we have exactly it's you know

  it's like a I i think it went from 2.66

  gigahertz 22.7 guards but he was he so

  he's so hungry

  he's been so focused on this that he

  couldn't let it go by now

  well the funny thing is is one of the

  things that i love about WWDC is is you

  go out there i got there for the week

  and it's like all of a sudden my entire

  internet is now within like three city

  blocks of each other and this is totally

  true story i forget where I was coming

  from but it was on you know what it was

  Pete went over to the peet's coffee

  that's over there at things like third

  and Howard and I was walking back to

  Moscow me west and marco was behind me I

  think Marco might have been staying at

  the w and and I went down that way we

  caught up to me and he was heading back

  over and he goes you know what and it

  just knows it's like he just opened up

  is I use thinking like you know I think

  I'm gonna buy that new mac pro and you

  know it's like wednesday that he liked

  talking to I was like they're like in

  between like right in front of moscone

  north and south which is between the W

  and and Moscow me west where WTC is

  that's where Marco talked himself into

  buying the mac pro and I was just there

  nodding my head I didn't encourage it

  I didn't discourage it i but i was there

  and then next week on the show and he

  said he ballin heating complain about

  your coffee at all eaten I think you can

  watch that you see considers Pete's to

  be pretty burned because people end up

  putting a lot of junk in it and he

  didn't like that

  don't thank God I don't have his tastes

  like I couldn't live like that but now

  him that's a big deal because he's can

  ask for favors your show but i can ask

  one favor i miss your show but just just

  for the sake of having some kind of a

  contrivance can we act like I don't know

  all that much stuff about computers

  okay um that's how I always treat you

  thank you

  ok but you know what that's gonna help

  so much now Marcus case when he

  making the making software he needs the

  fastest concealed like that that changes

  his his career if he can make the

  software turn into software faster right

  it is going to be sitting around some

  kind of hobble genuine macbook air he

  needs something that's gonna be called

  building right because it takes time

  that takes time and it takes it to your

  pagan out your processors when you're

  trying to make the instant papers that

  correct yes that's one of those things

  where the rest of us people who you know

  like I don't think there's anything i do

  anymore a computer that i have to wait

  for the computer I i have the way less

  energy unless something has gone wrong

  that's exactly the same for me there's

  nothing I do that wasn't a runaway

  process that I mean occasionally you'll

  see some squirrely happen for some

  reason occasionally multi markdown takes

  four processors and i don't know why but

  friends not even running anything which

  is weird but you know whatever it be

  quit to quit the process but now like

  what if i get real crazy and I have you

  know 30 Safari windows open and a bunch

  of tabs in each one and and there's a

  couple of them that are doing JavaScript

  over and open up activity monitor and it

  says safari is using 90-some percent of

  my cpu just idle in the background then

  yes things get slow and presumably if I

  had a faster machine i could still have

  all of that going on and it wouldn't be

  as noticeable but in general on my max

  I'm never waiting for the cpu whereas

  developers absolutely are like video

  like if you're if you're doing video

  there's a really kind of neat

  you might have seen this on the app

  store there's up I saw it ostensibly

  because I was trying to test the new

  drives you know when you get any dries

  it's a good idea to kind of put him

  through a torture test and at least find

  out to the extent possible how you know

  what I mean they say for drugs bad it's

  going in the first few weeks which has

  been my experience actually did find 1i

  got a clunker but I there's this app you

  can get and something disc something and

  then cooked and I think what it does

  it's made for video folks and so you

  pound on this drive super hard and it

  shows you how much like what's what's

  sizes of video you can reasonably do

  with your computer so right so if you're

  if you're pushing out whatever 1080p

  giant video you want all the power you

  can get right that's heavily math

  intensive stuff right

  yeah ditto ditto for

  pushing on instapaper right tell you

  that was a good purchase room I yeah I

  don't know maybe at I guess the thing

  i'm not i'm confused about is how slow

  but what kind of machine repair is

  replacing with the i would i would

  always feel like the same thing is like

  moving somewhere you know like when

  you're in a house you notice everything

  that's wrong with where you live you

  know the parking Sox your neighbor your


  I don't know what allowed to say on here

  but your neighbors an unpleasant person

  you know what you mean like you notice

  everything that's wrong and then when

  you move you suddenly noticed all these

  things that you never knew or right

  before and as i get older i start to

  think more about the overhead involved

  in changing anything and even today with

  like migration assistant everything so

  much better you can I have successfully

  restored an ipad from the iCloud in like

  minutes that you know sometimes it works

  but you know what i mean it's like to be

  the overhead of moving to a new machine

  would be so much juju that I would worry

  about that I would want a bigger

  thinking about getting a new macbook air

  because even though mind still working

  great for almost two years ago i'm

  attracted to the new ones but don't you

  think I mean like I would way that in

  terms of that bump and speed i would

  think a lot about whether it's worth you

  know me just for the chance that maybe

  it's got a bum USB port or something

  don't mean like that stuff happens the

  overhead of that

  yeah I also worry about and when I buy a

  Mac I do i do I still feel like this i

  still feel like you start you start over

  right don't you go totally clean and

  well that's now I don't really do that

  but i had i feel like i'm gonna i'm i'm

  in with this thing for four years

  that's what i like to do I like to get

  it set up and then I add all my stupid

  little extras and get all the little

  preferences moved over and and the

  things that don't happen automatically

  just through migration assistant

  although I guess what i do is i don't

  really use the migration assistant i try

  to like start using the thing new and

  then slowly one by one as I miss things

  move them over that used to being up

  that used to be easier in some ways that

  back when you know what I mean like back

  when you could just pull over an

  application drop it in the folder I mean

  for that matter you know extensions you

  can just drop an extension in and


  right you know what I mean he knew even

  if you're not doing any tape stuff for

  crazy cakes tough or anything like that

  there's still there still a certain

  amount of to do today and where's

  migration assistant

  knock on wood has you know if you've got

  the time and the connection i bump blown

  away with how migration assistant works

  i have to say is it worked pretty well

  for you yeah it does especially it works

  a lot better for like Amy like as a just

  a normal person it doesn't have stupid

  system extensions and stuff like that

  you know if you make sure you got enough

  and she gets a new one she gets a new

  machine you just do the standard

  migration assistant thing and all of a

  sudden an hour to later her machine is

  all of our stuff on it I have it that's

  that still feels like magic to me I

  gotta say that this next one I don't

  know if I want to spend the dough

  because I i I've always said that my the

  su-30 that I had whatever in there I

  guess early nineties always still feels

  like in my head like pound-for-pound

  still feels like the fastest Mac I ever


  that's probably not accurate but given

  the balance of running like word 5.1 you

  know what I mean like everything I was

  doing just felt lightning-fast on a

  computer but I gotta say this macbook

  air i bought it on my birthday like

  november two thousand ten i bought this

  thing and it's to this day it still

  feeling it still feels ridiculously fast

  I know part of that's the SSD drive but

  I mean that this one again my macpro

  it's like beachball city and i'm forever

  Apple jacking and f cking and doing all

  the Mojo to try and you know when I

  don't know this is true for you in my

  experience it feels like most the time i

  get beach balls

  it's not because the processor stuff or

  whatever it's because yeah maybe I'm low

  on space but I it feels like it's always

  like a tiny little nick of disc damage

  that might be causing it to forget that

  yeah I know exactly and so i'll go but i

  don't think i get it anymore with the

  ssds I think the ssds are sort of like

  that well that's the thing is i mean i

  don't know i'm so so the new macbook

  airs don't get the right now that's only

  on the macbook pro right exactly yeah so

  that's you know it's it's kinda like why

  didn't get you know the ipad 3 is

  because it's just not enough there yet

  it's why for the sake of argument friend

  is not me would not put iOS 6 on Carrie

  phone it's not like I don't need sports


  from this not me does not need support

  scores you know I'm saying it's not

  quite there yet

  it's almost there with macbook air just

  because now i'm hungry in the same way

  i'm guessing like Marco I'm hungry for

  that like that pounding speed it's you

  know so you know that phenomenon that's

  so a common it's a cliché which is you

  get your new computer and you go oh my

  god this is so much faster than my other

  computer and within four to nine days he

  stopped noticing that it's faster now

  maybe this is my virtue of the fact that

  i do have two main max that I do stuff

  on that that macbook air still feels so

  freakin fast to me I mean everything

  everything feels so fast it's like it

  really is like a completely different

  experience and in the memory very first

  notice i I've got back and forth on now

  back on launch bar but what I really

  remember was when i first got it and I

  still in Quicksilver it was the first

  time in years the Quicksilver was a

  no-look app it has been so long since I

  could just hit a thing and know that it

  was working in type to deny me know

  because for a long time it went down as

  Quicksilver or my mac but I got to where

  I hid the thing and then I look to make

  sure it got it and I type to make sure

  that had caught up and you know as what

  that stuff I think you like this a long

  time ago like the name i think that was

  you looking to like the difference in

  like you know portions of a second in

  terms of whether people will buy

  something on amazon or on a site its

  imperceptible but but you do it is

  perceptible somewhere in your brain and

  anyway that macbook air just so blazing

  fast i think i'm addicted I'm hungry and

  that's why I think a person like Marco

  who probably a little too much money

  like you go out and get that extra

  little bit because you don't mean it's

  like you know you at least you know in

  your mind when you're sitting there and

  waiting for the instapaper to get made

  at least in your mind your knowing that

  there's no chance you could be working

  on something that's faster

  yeah I I'd see the logic of that I do

  especially if you're there it's the same

  reason that I think it's worth it to buy

  a good chair you know that you're in it

  all the time you know I i spent i think

  i think i bought this chair about a year

  ago but i spent like the last I think

  about that chair at ikea in 1999 or

  something like that and it was like ikea

  price desk chair and it was so I don't

  know maybe I spent 60 bucks in 99 on a

  chair that I thought was pretty

  comfortable it didn't have adjustable

  arm rest but they just were perfectly

  placed for my arms very comfortable

  chair and I sat in that chair my home

  office until like last year i think and

  then it finally they literally just

  broke and my standards for buying a

  chair where well i think you know 70 80

  bucks is about what you spend on an

  office chair and you know what I thought

  that's not i should get seduced and

  research because I'm there I'm here all

  day long I'm here I don't know how long

  do I work i think i work at least an

  hour a day or more importantly spend it

  in like three minutes in vegas exactly

  so i don't know i know i said i got this

  chair and i love it and i think i spent

  I don't like seven hundred dollars on it

  or something like them which seems crazy

  to me it still seems crazy than air on

  that it's it's not an aeron it's like

  it's like an errand i forget the name of

  it but it might even have been designed

  but it's like super adjustable air

  economic chuckles yeah it doesn't have I

  don't think anywhere near as many points

  of adjustment as as an actual air on but

  it's like that and it has a couple of

  key ways that it's adjustable and it

  just it's have it set up just right and

  I always you know very very comfortable

  in the chair but it's worth it for you

  know because I expect to have this chair

  at least 10 years that's like a sharp

  knife in the kitchen

  exactly i mean it's it's not that much

  more money to get and maintain a good

  knife and keep it sharp because you're

  going to be driven a little bit crazy

  every time you almost cut your finger

  every time you touch a cucumber

  that's no way to live I i agree with you

  and that's why I mean like I don't know

  that again i have so much like probably

  out-of-date accumulated Mac conventional

  wisdom in my head but I still always

  feel like if you're gonna buy a mac by

  the by the top-of-the-line one in

  whatever you're buying by putting as

  much room as you can get the biggest

  hard drive you can everything everything

  and even if its imperceptible like when

  I got that macbook air I got the most

  tricked-out when I could because there's

  never going to be a day where I go I

  wish this thing was just a little bit

  slower and you can you know the ram you

  can always use more RAM that's number

  you're never going to know

  I need more ram exactly now I totally

  agree it is funny that I think about

  that i mean i use your mark down

  I mean it's what I to the point where

  people are sick of hearing about it it's

  what I do all day long and what is that

  I mean it's has a text file and then

  occasionally it runs a little filter and

  but i mean that's that's really the

  extent acorn like I go in a corner and I

  do stuff in layers and I mean it's

  nothing like what I used to do with

  photoshop back in the day it's kind of

  funny though that computing power has

  gone through the roof

  I'm doing less and less stuff that would

  need it I don't play games you know what

  i mean but it does make a difference in

  your if you like workflow there's so

  many little things if you have added

  little bits of stuff to make your

  computer work more the way you want

  I think it will tolerate a lot of that

  stuff better we have more like I almost

  want to say like I don't know

  headroom like you just you're not gonna

  run into those barriers as fast you're

  not going to have to like delete stuff

  from your drive is often you're not

  going to have to like you know run all

  those utilities we used to have to run

  to find out what weird thing was causing

  the problem that i like the chair

  analogy though I freaked my god I'm

  under strict forgetting I'm under strict

  orders from my family to get a new chair

  it's it's become it looks like something

  that like used to be a well-loved teddy

  bear and now like somebody at bus

  stations been sleeping on its it is it

  is disgusting and it's not economic and

  I can't feel my left off

  I think the problem is with you you

  should got the air on because now you

  don't have the the triceps flexor now it

  is it's going to have an unarmed it is

  also mine is like an air on which is in

  that it's like a mesh you know like

  instead of a padded foam thing that you

  sit on it it's a mesh thing which I

  think if you know if you really want to

  think about the accumulated to that go

  into a chair i do think that's the way

  to go for long-term maybe not it get to

  scatological but there's something oh

  you're seeing air that thing out a

  little that you know I'm saying that

  that uh I'm saying that maybe that that

  ikea one that I had for 12 years had a

  lot of

  you know maybe i shouldn'ta just

  throwing it out the trash maybe I should

  have taken that to like a some kind of

  special disposal we ever get stuff like

  you know it's so crazy making and get

  stuff in the mail that's got like

  private information on your life haha

  now i don't want credit card thing I

  don't want this and then what do you

  gotta tear off all of your identifying

  information if you're like me in your

  weirdo either like shred it or you tear

  it into pieces and put in different

  trash cans friends not mean in your case

  you probably should have cut out i don't

  wanna say the center of the seat

  you should have cut out at least an oval

  right after going out and a an asshole i

  don't think that ass ellipses and then

  you should probably either shred that or

  put that in several garbage cans maybe

  hazmat bag exact nobody's going to want

  that you put on the street you can harm

  a kid exactly you live in Philadelphia

  hear you you like a good meal i don't

  know i did try something drives me crazy

  like on NPR when they're constantly

  advertising the the Aeron chair and true

  black I don't know if you get that their

  know every time I hear that get angry

  about aeron chairs like I don't know

  exclusive movies really Aeron chair now

  available in true black and you're like

  oh god damn it I wish I hadn't bought

  just that horse crap black one a few

  years ago as it really is closer to

  charcoal and now i have no i have not

  heard this what is the difference do

  they explain the difference between

  black and true don't think they need to

  explain i think you keep your Johnson

  rod type situation with this chair stuff

  i mean i think i think it's around all

  the way down you could use always

  probably I'm guessing there's always

  more costly like mattresses you know a

  racquetball yeah are right

  same deal also can i just say mattresses

  another situation we should probably cut

  the ellipsis yeah well probably several

  lipsy especially if you have made my

  need a shredder like a giant industrial

  sized shredder you should this room i

  think the shredder

  I don't listen to the radio much I don't

  want the commercial radio much but when

  I do it's all about mattresses

  I'm just think there's a lot of

  mattresses out there that probably

  should be dealt with you know you see

  the street mattresses right you get

  Street mattresses i have you mean when

  you see mattresses on the city is what

  ya people just add they're not that they

  put this way John they're not putting a

  lot of care into what happens to the

  mattress a lot it's a lot of stuff has

  gone down on that mattress Jonas Jonas

  and I have a running gag when we see a

  street mattress this is something you

  see in it and you know I think any urban

  area you often to see a mattress

  shoes on the wires you just see matches

  some artichoke is you do you want a nap

  haha i don't know what i would do we got

  one of those

  we got a fully Swedish one but now you

  got me thinking about the that that

  aerated but hammock and now it's gonna

  be troubling to me and I feel like I'm

  to need to stand up every time I need to

  break when i'm i'm thinking the true

  black Iran is that you say that and all

  I can think of is the the business card

  scene from american psycho haha yeah

  right and they're talking about their

  errands and then the last guy he says

  well there's true black and then the guy

  knows you know then he gets like the

  sweat because he knows he's he's been

  beaten doesn't have to but that's the

  sort of thing that's why I was reluctant

  to to even consider these

  five-hundred-dollar and more office

  chairs because I just didn't want to get

  into that whole thing at night you know

  that don't you feel like a sucker

  I mean like a sucker for spending I mean

  about you but like I don't spend seven

  hundred dollars on chair is very often

  but sometimes I'll go like you know I

  need to go spend some money myself to

  feel good

  let's say maybe the chair and the chair

  is a good way to do that I don't spend

  that much less a lot of dough for me but

  my problem is i would go in there and I

  would want some kind of John syracuse

  with me i would want some kind of

  seating lawyer who could go in there and

  make sure that i'm not getting the

  screwgy right because I i could easily

  go in there like the mattress thing

  which let's be clear

  it is a racket mattresses are a

  reference but in my case it's the same

  for everything i buy and and you know

  really to nothing not to be on topic but

  one thing to apples credit is really

  only so many things you can do to trick

  it out you can go and get like a you

  know a calfskin case for your dingus but

  by and large you know you're not gonna

  be able to get you can't get like you

  know what ninety six gigs of ram just to

  say you've got it

  the device will work fine with with this

  kind of thing I think this is an upscale

  marketing John I think there are always

  add-ons like you like Las Vegas but

  there's always a nice sweet you can get

  a bittersweet no one's been in yet

  there's one that they've just been sick

  like maybe that maybe that's the gimmick

  gimmick is else it's a virgin sweet


  good i can see two sexy two reasons for

  that I can see the one is which is like

  no don't even look over there like that

  that's not for you

  no one's ever been in there and that

  makes them want to upgrade but also for

  somebody who is a cost-conscious multi

  Chamillionaire you go and sit in your

  second nice and sweet like we gotta put

  a pope sweet

  we also got a pope john paul sweet

  obviously the man's deceased God rest

  his soul

  he's never even in i would like the vice

  presidential suite

  there's a lot of ice in Vegas you know

  electoral system say stays and I would

  like I would like the second wedding

  suite ma you know we're here on a budget

  during the practice wedding suite given

  the first giving the first marriage

  sweet it's in there you got some get

  some get some cooks and you got some

  some things that will eventually become

  misunderstandings maybe a fruit basket

  you go on your it's your second marriage

  and you go on your honeymoon and then

  that night did you know the first night

  you're out any call this solemn over to

  your table and you're like hey this is

  our honeymoon

  let's go big but hey second marriage


  there's a classic line from The Simpsons

  that I use all the time was celebrating

  the anniversary of Homer says waiter

  bring us a bottle of your second sheet

  see second your second sheet with stamp

  yeah you know it's hard yeah I think I

  think you realize you know how God don't

  get me started on weddings but ok so for

  example though I'm i am so on economic

  and I had an irk pinched nerve recently

  that was really really awful and i think

  i'm still getting rid of it a little bit

  but my economic situation is bad and I'm

  gonna confess something on your program

  that I've never I don't think and fast

  before which is the my desk I was

  frustrated with the size of desks

  because i used to be a very messy desk

  person I'm just I'm just not think about

  it does person now but I used to be when

  I had a job i had piles and piles and

  piles of stuff on my desk but the worst

  part is and this is I'm gonna confess

  something to you I don't think I've ever

  said before the desk that I have is

  actually it's a cafeteria table that I

  stole from my college

  ok so if anybody's ever seen a photo of

  of anything I've ever done on my desk

  you'll see it's this fake wood grain and

  it's one of those giant like folding

  tables that she would have and say a

  student center in sarasota florida so

  it's a it's a good height for eating and

  expensive food but it's it's not a great

  height for doing work so I'm doing you

  know the key rookie mistake and

  economics as i understand it I stuff

  aside is that my elbows are lower than

  my hands and this is why I can't feel my

  arm you have that no I i'm actually i

  think in terms of I don't know I'm sure

  an expert could come in and correct me

  now long ago I had enough wrist pain and

  and etc that I did the research and

  bought a desk that a very low so my

  wrists are always lower than my elbows

  to have one of those fruity keyboard

  drop deals with a little drawer

  no doesn't seem a little bit on

  masculine know-it-all does i think is

  working on it

  you know I think any time you introduce

  hinges or or anything that's like a

  drawer it's kind of masculine remember

  when you get a rollout mouse drawer you

  go to get the office depot you can roll

  out my story and that and you get that

  little meeting at the CD billy bookcase

  type box thing we could put cds on your


  remember that yeah I do and I always

  you're always remember thinking with the

  mouse tour wool when you're gonna put

  that away

  I mean I guess maybe you know other

  people aren't like me and if they're

  they're doing other things at their desk

  then using their computer but if i'm at

  my desk i'm using the computer why in

  the world would i want to put the mouse

  way especially then

  yeah right exactly exactly even if

  you're and and you know what I said the

  same thing until I started having

  relatives and and now my relatives have

  these kinds of things where it's not

  really a good like think nights not a

  nice desk to have in your kitchen and

  it's really not a nice computer space

  either it's got bills and pictures all

  pictures of the kids from when they were

  cute and then you got your mousing area

  i totally agree i think this is why is

  why I'm so angry about my macpro

  mountain lion is I is ugly and gross and

  hygienic as my setup is here

  it works like everything's where I

  wanted to be you know i mean i don't

  have to noodle with stuff I've got the

  dell 30-inch deal here I got a dell 20

  whatever we're back in the day when you

  get the radius turn it on its side i do

  that's what I do

  so I've got my main

  screen and I know according to all the

  nerve suppose to have like seven of the

  same screen you know but I've got a 30

  inch dell in front of my face here and

  then I off to the right I got my other

  dell that generic del everybody has to

  turn to the side and that's where I keep

  my mark that app running so i can see

  the big document in a portrait but it

  all works great and I got the clicky

  keyboard and it just it all works

  together and I think I'd be giving away

  something if I had either a mouse drawer

  or or it now you have just doesn't seem

  weird to do the gig you have a clicky

  keyboard but you run it laid down your

  macbook pro now i'm running lid open but

  screen off its off to the side off to

  the side so ministry is not distracting

  now because it's it's turn the other way

  to turn sideways

  I don't like that at all

  well it's not good install it all looks

  terrible it really does i I can't even

  send you a photo because it's i think

  i've seen some pictures and it looks

  like something out of Brazil it's not

  crowded for a man of your stature is a

  little crowded in your room

  yeah it is but I kind of but I'd I need

  a small room because I will however big

  the rumors that I'll just fill it up

  with junk like Andy Rooney can ask a

  candid question

  yeah and this have anything to do with

  your TV is it

  I don't want to be judgy but is there

  any chance that your TV has become a


  no why would my TV be a problem because

  you have the largest TV anyways everyone

  is it in a different room

  okc but here's what I'm saying has an

  ottoman moved in there maybe books know

  how many records you got like Tom Petty

  maybe some tom petty records need to be

  in the other room which have so much TV

  that you're just no room in there now

  that's all you know that bathroom is

  great but that's because i have nothing

  to do with that room from just a sofa

  and a giant hundred and seventy two inch

  plasma screen that's incredible

  now you could burn in with that I nope

  no you don't have to run a screensaver

  on that or anything just leave it on all

  the time now while you turn it off when

  you're done watching watching your shows

  don't leave a pause you know

  Syracuse's got me spooked about that he

  has his he shuts it off the second he

  has to go and take a whiz shut the whole

  thing down all the way down now

  I don't do that do a worry about that I

  we've got a really really we need to get

  a new t monitor deal

  it sets from costco and it's got like

  three big black marks on the screen at

  the top that doesn't sound good looks

  cloudy i don't think that supposed to be

  like that i don't know we have mac mini

  running at home for all of our media

  stuff but it's it's not first first

  generation but it's old and it being

  serious is this sounds crazy but it's

  kind of related when you're on a macbook

  air a lot of the day or if I'm an ipad

  the ipad 2 is a thousand times faster

  than the thing that's running DMVs

  whatever those are or mkvs whatever

  those are you don't mean no I dunno even

  you're mostly an apple TV man though

  right yeah pretty much everything I

  watches appletv are you streaming it

  running off a local box streaming from

  just connect to itunes and if it's not

  on itunes then I'm i'm not watching if

  you'd asked me six months ago whether

  that would work i would say sometimes I

  can't believe how well that works it

  works really well it's one of the few

  things apple has going on in the cloud

  that I think they've really got down

  stone cold

  no I there's like three things in that

  space that they're getting right and

  almost everything else is a mess

  yeah i totally agree with you last I

  told you I think it actually I don't

  it was in messages that app so it

  probably didn't go through what I was

  telling you i watch the I was meant to

  tell you i watch the Johnny Carson thing

  I which is which is really really

  interesting but I watched it like you

  suggested i watched on my iPad in the

  PBS app right which was completely crazy

  making it was like after I got my iphone

  and I had to go back to occasionally

  doing anything on my chubby or or nuvi I

  guess anything that ends with an is

  going to be a terrible interface because

  i feel like i had to punch it had to get

  a special prodding stick to make the

  chumby work you don't mean like when

  your kid picks up a kindle and tries to

  touch the screen

  yep that's how I felt I've gotten so

  spoiled already on apple TV streaming

  that like when I want to watch this PBS

  thing and like a notification popped up

  and then i have to like start over or

  something was so weird

  yeah I run into that sometimes with the

  baseball games because i have the

  mentality yeah and it works great on

  apple TV but every once in awhile and I

  don't even think it's happening this

  season but every once in a while like

  that the streaming on apple TV with MLB

  would get get janky and i would think

  while switch to my phone because it's

  right here in my pocket and do the

  airplay to the apple TV and then that's

  just as good but then all of a sudden

  one somebody sends you a text message in

  the whole thing just falls apart because

  the phone like drops the airplay so it

  can show you that the alert

  I i find that extremely frustrating and

  uh personally and I i if I had my

  druthers I would wish that that would

  work a little bit differently and here's

  a use case from from literally 10

  minutes before our call

  I was on I was on a phone call with

  somebody long phone call and you know a

  long phone call means four minutes 45

  you gotta do gonna take a little

  breather in between right yeah got to

  spend a penny and so I jonathan coulton

  got to hear me urinate for about 15

  seconds because i thought that i had hit

  the thing it shut off the call but the

  dingus was up telling me that I had a

  podcast with john gruber in 10 minutes

  it's jonathan got a little cross country

  treat that doesn't it seem like i should

  be able to hit the red button

  I mean you know there's always the joke

  about like you can't like slam the phone

  down with anybody with a mobile phone

  like a feature phone doesn't seem weird

  that I have to dismiss a pop-up in order

  to like turn the phone off yeah i think

  that the popups those blue pop up alerts

  and iOS are oddly modal they're like the

  JavaScript alerts you know when you just

  in JavaScript you just type alert space

  you know whatever the string here and

  you get this thing that just pops up and

  you can't use anything else in your

  browser until you you know it seems

  oddly reminds me of of not os9 but

  whatever system nine well-liked system

  we could six though you know what I mean

  where everything where you had to click

  ok or cancel and that was it you could

  write desktop to click on write any time

  an alert and any app would come up it

  was system model you couldn't switch to

  another app you had to do it just seems

  very very model it just seems I don't

  just one of those things where I think i

  missed it in my

  hey little things apple could fix in

  ios6 just seems like they should I don't

  know be at the top and slide down and

  just sit there until you deal with them

  you know sort of sort of more like a not

  called what's the thing called on the

  mac that now they have in the

  Notification Center in Mountain Lion the

  like we choose between it's almost like

  he's talking about like the thing that's

  like a growl ya around

  it should be like growl in the way that

  they've done it in it should just be

  there any and will be visible and you if

  you're looking at your phone you can't

  miss it it's there but it doesn't

  interrupt everything that's going on to

  too much of that would be a little

  android but but you know how you can

  choose when you get a notification

  center you can choose like nine and by

  the way what a mess you know having me

  on the show another time working just

  wine and I got so much to worry about

  right now

  what you don't let me before you keep on

  me to stop and do it yeah we have energy

  everything we talked about that you like

  I do I think you're gonna like this one

  okay i want to tell you about Launch

  Center pro from our friends at appt

  cubby i'm predicting that you've heard

  of this app big fan

  it's an app for the iphone and I think

  it's one of those apps it's really

  really hard to describe it's sort of

  like in in theory maybe sort of like a

  quicksilver for iOS and i just wrote

  this the other day about the Chrome for

  iOS where if you want to fire off a

  bookmarklet and chrome for iOS you have

  to type it in their little omnibox you

  up there and type this box retype urls

  and search queries you can also type the

  name of one of your bookmarks and if

  it's a bookmark let then you can fire it

  off but whereas on safari users tap

  bookmarks and then there's a list of

  your bookmarks so tap tap

  you've done it on iOS I like to tap I

  don't like the night I was when you and

  your little short piece i was telling

  with you I thought I open chrome and was

  completely perplexed right and I like

  where I would go I rely very heavily on

  safari I have a very carefully crafted

  series of bookmarking to show up first

  exactly like it's like I've made my own

  little interface to Safari which is like

  the top six bookmarklets in my bookmarks

  list which do things and I know exactly

  i can almost navigate by this

  that's without even looking I use on the

  mac i use launch bar which is you know

  competitive quicksilver's Alfred's

  another one and these are these things

  where you'd fire them up you type

  something and hit return Launch Center

  pro is the same thing in theory for iOS

  but instead of firing it and typing

  something you fire it and you tap

  something and it's all customizable you

  can configure it for the shortcuts you

  need and the idea is that you're going

  to put it somewhere where it's super

  super convenient

  I think it's really honestly I think

  it's intended to be in the doc it's

  supposed to be one of your like top four

  things and what you can do is you could

  take something out like let's say your

  phone app take it out and create Launch

  Center shortcuts for the people you call

  the most frequently and then you go home

  screen launch center boom call Merlin

  because I call you I mean I probably

  call you three four times a day at least

  especially on weekends I actually

  there's only one thing that's

  frustrating about this app which is that

  you have to launch it at all right

  because once it's open there's nothing

  the closest i can think of is not funny

  i like a lot of people like I use search

  on iOS like I would Quicksilver like I'm

  forever I don't like flipping around so

  like if I know I want to get to

  something and I filled every screen I

  got to that point where I can't see all

  my apps you know what i mean so i'll

  flip over to search and type in some

  letters and that pulls up a nap that's

  great but the thing Launch Center I

  don't hijack your thing here but I

  really been using this app and it's

  amazing you're right you going to

  customize but it's not even it's not

  even just a launcher it's and your pride

  getting to this but what's amazing is

  you can go in and with a click you could

  do things like create an item in a

  calendar-like all agenda create an item

  with this location create an item with

  this default title so like

  daddy-daughter time is is a that's a

  button i click that you can then you can

  also have putting the clipboard or put

  in a contact name or put in input like

  manual input and make stuff like

  creating an OmniFocus task dialing a

  number sending a message to this person

  it's got little variables it's a little

  bit limited but it's growing and you can

  launch apps

  it's aight i think it's a terrific app a

  special note just for you and

  upcoming version 1.03 and at the top of

  their list text expander support you and

  Errol attack spinners and it works in

  the applique can explode text and


  I think it's going to explode

  TextExpander shortcuts gonna that would

  be that would be magic it you just have

  to see it and it also i have to admit I

  was very skeptical and this is from our

  friends at apco bead David Bernard is

  sort of the pool bar over there and he's

  he's a great guy i've linked to many

  times from during far but he's also very

  open about his iOS experiences he's

  documents you know pretty much open

  kimono the financial aspects of being in

  indy iOS developer and he sort of

  admitted that launch center was sort of

  just under just a little like scratching

  his own niche idea and it's turned into

  a big hit for them i think it's going to

  get the top of some a lot of these lists

  in the appstore afternoon when i first

  heard it I didn't even think it was

  possible because it seems like that sort

  of extending the system type of utility

  isn't really possible and i'll say what

  it seems like it seems like one of those

  apps that goes unlock your screen with a

  gesture or you don't mean one of those

  after like use your fingerprint and it's

  totally not that that's why it's got one

  star reviews it seems like it's one it

  seems like one of those and I'm saying

  it's not this but there's all these apps

  that get on the top ten the with a joke


  it seems like a joke and when I open

  this thing up i thought oh haha how

  funny is that click here to add an army

  focus task with an input thing or and

  it's hard to explain this except it's

  it's getting i would put it up with

  maybe why don't you know yeah you know I

  don't understand computers i would put

  it up with one password and text

  expander in the oh my god how did they

  get away with something that's useful

  right because there's so and I don't

  know how this is working but more apps

  seem to get added to this we

  yes it's great to be able to launch the

  app I don't know if it's fun being clear

  about this

  you can have preset stuff if you do

  stuff all the time it's all in there

  it's all in this is why i say the only

  thing is frustrating having to launch it

  I i wish it was open all the time in the

  same way that you use a full-time so i

  hijacked your and that's alright it's

  really i mean i've really you

  did you tell me this was going to be the

  sponsor did I know this no you did not

  know this is all from my heart is on top

  secret I don't tell anybody I spring the

  sponsors on on the guest of the show

  see that's where you got to make people

  wait for it exactly but I mean I I'm

  just telling you as merlin mann former

  productivity guru I i think this is

  really useful and if there's some way

  that you guys keep that in nebulous

  notes that would be really awesome but

  launched a text file with this stuff in

  it if you just think it's one of the

  things like text expander and i am an

  alternate text and rapper like me want

  to use text expander you feel like a

  sucker to to not use it i find myself

  gravitating toward a nap i will write an

  email in nebulous names just because

  it's got all the stuff I one in it and

  in this instance I mean I see this

  applet some very interesting places as

  long as it can that get away with it

  well one of the things that really takes

  advantage of and I think that the the

  heart and soul of the launch center pro

  is this these URLs that app support and

  I think it's most people don't know

  about this even people like nerds and

  people who listen to our shows don't

  know that on iOS really the only way one

  app can talk to another is through

  custom URLs and so like you could have a

  note-taking app like by word or

  something like that where by word has a

  special URL instead of HTTP colon slash

  slash it's like byword a / x dash by

  word I don't know what it is but Launch

  Center is programmed with knows about

  all of these hundreds maybe I don't know

  but doesn't say anything in the dingus

  hear their sites that will show you

  write that there are so many like if you

  put one password at one time for colon

  slash slash the it works it's an earl

  scheme just like would work on the web

  or as a lot of people don't know on your

  Mac as well right and so Launch Center

  he knows about these things it already

  knows the format for these things so you

  fill them in so you you can do stuff

  it's really surprising the shortcuts you

  can make so if you always want to fire

  off a new note in this one app for

  certain things

  boom here to taps away one tap on launch

  center one tap on your custom shortcut

  that you've made for the thing that you

  do the most frequently it's a great app

  you can visit apka for more

  information and they have a demo video

  or just search for launch center in the

  app store things like buck 99 290 and

  something like that i don't want your ad

  to Longwood maybe after we're done i'll

  give you a couple of these because I got

  some good ones in here

  yeah I knew you would love this app

  because you're the master of stuff like

  this how this you going to buy one of

  those stupid is you don't have the

  answers over but you know you go on but

  when the stupid flashlight apps

  how about this you hit a button called

  flashlight and it hits your LED doing a

  hundred percent Houthis have used toggle

  here talking with giant like so you want

  to keep your lady up or or I'm sorry

  your bachelors partner and so you hit

  toggle and you have a selection of two

  ranges you pick a number between one and

  a hundred and they want to hit toggle

  change the parental how this works John

  Gruber you hit toggle and suddenly my

  screen changes to 2% brightness I hit it

  again it goes to like what I keep it on

  sixty sixty percent brightness but you

  go in and you pick what that is

  I'm and that sounds weird but like how I

  mean think about this this is one that I

  loved on my HTC android that i missed

  here is the ability like flipping and

  you flip bluetooth on and off or

  whatever but you have to go change your

  your embed your ipad i can't get an ipad

  dark enough to not keep my wife awake

  but in this instance yeah but you're

  saying and where somebody hit dropbox

  you go do a thing it's like it'sit's

  crazy and then anything to do with

  contacts this is going to obviate 50

  different no offense to anybody else but

  it'll obviate like five other apps that

  you might be using for this hockey stuff

  because you can just say make a phone

  call to this person with this one click

  I'm sorry I'm going onto i'm going to

  try i'd i'd you went real fast you got

  real Merlin either but powerful thing is

  fascinating it's you hit this button and

  it toggles your screen brightness

  between like super bright you need it

  because the sun shining in your eyes not

  going to see it or really really dim

  like it's the like you said like it's

  your in bed it's nighttime and

  somebody's next you trying to sleep two

  taps away instead of fishing into the

  settings app and going down to the end

  if you're a nerd you pick axe and why

  the room who knew that at third party

  house tour and how that's possible can

  change that because apparently because

  the brightness setting has a you

  Apple has a URL that developers can use

  a URL scheme for changing the screen

  brightness I didn't even know that was

  possible not you know this isn't

  jailbreak stuff this is right there in

  the app store it's great that I've got a

  bunch the only Calendar apps on my

  favorite calendar app right now is

  called calendars it's really really

  great but the other thing that I also

  really like one called agenda and so I

  got one here when i click on this i

  click on

  so you've got these are described you

  got a grid of what's four times three

  you got 12 of these buttons on the

  screen but then you can have the

  equivalent of a folder by clicking and

  you don't have to double click on it you

  click it and it pops straight up so its

  thumb thumb thumb and you're just doing

  your thing and so it will go and create

  an item and you know whatever I have a


  let go create like time for me and my

  kid to hangout hit that it doesn't

  create that you can create with a

  certain location and will eat it's there

  and like any of this life hack nonsense

  if you do anything more than once

  automated like red shell script for

  whatever in this instance it's all baked

  in here the only two downsides yes you

  have to launch it would be nice for open

  all the time but you know that's a joke

  John when I say that I'm saying I wish

  this were bound to my home key but the

  other thing is i could spend all day

  making these because they are so useful

  and they're adding new ones all the time

  yeah and it's a very quickly be nice it

  would be nice if you could set it to

  launch on double tap home or something

  like that or triple tap home like a way

  that you could boom absolutely yeah

  anybody's great at creating new textile

  Launch Center pro in the App Store you

  can do it all well is a new show next

  week what you'll have your back and

  we'll talk more about our Long Center

  shortcut enjoy that do these do i like

  to wait for time mercies do i know i

  think ideally it to you

  oh yeah i do use that usually just

  talked to the lady usually no no I do

  use Doody tue i use that I learned about

  it from your stupid site i think it's

  that became the nerd go to timer app has

  got natural language and stuff so here

  like let's say for example I steep in my

  you know you know how important it is to

  have a friendly way to make coffee and

  everything about this i dunno about that

  have an aeropress and I do them doing

  the inverse we should talk about this on

  our third show i do the inverse but you

  know I'm doing two minutes now which is

  a little crazy but I will forget about


  that sounds nuts I know myself well

  enough to know I will forget so I've got

  a two-minute timer in usability Launch


  hit it and I get a 10-minute time boom

  do that no no I know anyway now and i

  use do for my weekly reminders like

  friday afternoon i have a do that goes

  off to remind me to thank this week's

  daring fireball RSS sponsor by a handle

  of vodka exactly or the trash wednesday

  night trash on with do that way I i do

  that in OmniFocus but yeah that's never

  want to think about this but you don't

  want that stuff in your calendar either

  you know I mean like you don't

  absolutely calendar you I just want it

  at ten o'clock at night on wednesday

  just tell me to take the trash out and

  do do has nice little things like for

  this week because wednesday was not

  trash day because of the great us

  holiday then there's a one-button it

  just says tomorrow same time

  this news is awesome right and it's just

  one tap and it's done and it doesn't

  give you any of this stuff like hey you

  wanted this is a recurring thing you

  want to change this for all of them or

  just this one you just hit hit tomorrow

  and then it bugs me tomorrow

  this is the example I always bring up

  with this I think we've talked I'm

  positive we talked about this before

  it's like me bird feed which was a

  twitter app then by husband Evan right

  yeah and it got me I'm picked up by

  grizzly which may have got a little

  weird but that was me that Apple's way

  whereby got a little weird you may think

  you've got trashed but that's a shame

  but is that what letters little like


  yeah well what they did was the funniest

  thing about you got to open a woman when

  you're not gonna make buzz-buzz can have

  a blog post you know where the funniest

  thing about that though is that it went

  in the strangest possible way which was

  that it was say nothing about the

  usability of the app just take a look at

  it was exquisite

  it was exquisite you did not see

  anything you didn't need to see it was

  he needed to see if your power user you

  knew where it was and if you weren't

  even care

  Nevin Morgan is a designer he now works

  at panic alongside cable sasser I mean

  that that's the caliber of work that

  Nevin does I mean this we're talking

  about guy who went on to work i don't

  think he worked at panic it maybe he did

  but anyway he is bi world-class UI

  designer and the app looked like it was

  exquisite and then the they sold it to

  brazilian grizzly came out

  the version that looks like me and you

  designed it you know like like on a

  cocktail napkin like it wasn't bad per


  I mean it was you know but it was like

  they raced all of the exquisiteness and

  it was just sort of genericized you know

  I mean like if me and you sat down and

  end and fired up photoshop and spend a

  week trying to make a twitter app we

  could make like what brisley came out

  with and then we would hand it to

  someone like Nevin and say now make it

  look actually good i think they went the

  other way like they know they gave us

  like giving Natalie Portman trucker cap

  is your movement moving in the wrong

  direction Johnny but it was not enough

  for me now are you are you a tweak tweak

  pot user i use the tweet but the sweet

  spot for me is another one that paul guy

  seems a little aggravated sometimes on

  the internet but had I love the sweet

  spot he will either he's a pretty little

  guy sometimes

  yeah but i really like the sweet spot in

  those gestures you know there's that is

  the st. John I've always loved on max I

  guess apple stuff in general which is

  this magical thing where I'll do

  something and maybe not even realize i

  what i was doing and something happens

  that i didn't realize i expected to

  happen and it worked and suddenly it

  feels like a moment of magic and that

  happens sometimes now in apps will do

  like I'll go you know what I'm going to

  try and swipe to the right and see if

  this takes me back i took me back to a

  list that's so freaking cool the first

  time I had motives plugged into my

  macbook pro and I i we forgot that I

  wasn't on my iPhone and hit mute and

  we'll wait a minute commute worked on my

  macbook pro you know what I mean that

  that's that's so magic when you don't

  have to sit there and read documentation

  for that stuff it's just it was a term

  for this new user experience right the

  thing you've most expect to happen when

  you do something

  yeah there is a term but we'll just call

  it the thing that you most expect to

  happen but they also but the other thing

  is you know and wipe creating this and

  stuff like a bar like if I wanted

  somebody said something nice about

  Roderick on the line and I want to

  retune it all that you do a long hold on

  the reetou button and ask you which

  account you want to that's really that's

  really that's really clever because

  you're not going on the modality stuff I

  gotta change you have to go over here i

  got re-enter a thingy

  yes I i do understand that there's a lot

  of people who think that the whole tap

  bots you I aesthetic is too heavy-handed

  and because it is i mean it's way over

  the top and you know the whole robot

  themed and you know I turn off the

  sounds like the sounds the only app i

  keep that nonsense on I sometimes I get

  but sometimes i'll fire up a new device

  and I'd forget I don't turn off the

  sound I don't mind them but keyboard

  clicking exactly that's a rookie

  oh man the keyboard clicking oh I love

  the keyboard clicking you don't use

  keyboard clicking and iOS you really

  don't you you're screwing with me now i

  do use it and i have one time and i

  would type 40 times faster if i had the

  clicking but it just feels so douchey to

  me to have that on me i really need it I

  need the feedback

  huh mine's been getting bad you know

  it's adi have you gotten this like I'm

  ready to do a reset because I now get

  auto corrections of things I've typed

  incorrectly before i'll try to type

  anything and go like four loop you know

  that that's another one of those things

  that I can't believe they haven't gotten

  the iOS yet is that you please help me

  back because I i seriously listen to us

  to hear this

  good what is that no I just did that the

  beans in my bonnet

  I'm so angry about so many things apple

  stupid right now I thought it was actual

  letters from actual actual actual

  readers actually mom and I'll here now

  why can't you go in there and in


  why can't you go settings I don't know

  keyboard and then have a list of the

  auto corrections and you could add you

  know and and and fix the ones that get

  in it still seems like you can totally

  tell you why not you can groove a bad

  autocorrect right you let an autocorrect

  go once or twice and then all of a

  sudden it's in there and there's nothing

  you can do about it

  well I did you get this and I don't know

  where this is coming from

  hi this is this either at first I

  thought it was laggy pneus or me being

  hitting the wrong target

  have you gotten the thing where it goes

  so I do this thing sometimes I want to

  speak in a jokey vernacular and so I'll

  go hang in ' right and so i type Hannah

  posture he goes out you mean hanging '

  I'm like no I absolutely do not mean


  ' and so I hit the thing nothing happens

  don't you been hanging up on and hit it

  again three times you get three shots

  right i hit three times i hit on the

  exit not on the Exile hit every every

  possible target on the goddamn phone and

  then it says I've changed this to hangar

  apart if you ever get this without you

  can't what is it trying is it is it

  trying to grow with me

  what why what why I wanted to let me be

  wrong i don't know what you do but you

  know the Phenom it didn't used to do

  this for me and now it does and i think

  it's become sentient and I don't like it

  it has at least given up on correcting

  swears that did the trick

  duck you know what when you address

  contact caii did I I light but I was it

  works for me now that I've taken them

  out of my address book

  so here's a fun one for it used to work

  for me until my contacts up speaking

  perfect i lost i recently lost nothing

  that bad on me for trying to do more

  than one thing i don't know why i think

  i can sync with more than one thing I

  got all my name's all the Twitter

  addresses work fine but I've lost tons

  of phone numbers and addresses for no

  reason that I can understand they just

  went away last week you guys went away

  you got Delmon I get settlement you know

  my favorite the ones i think

  intelligence with my favorites a couple

  years ago I had 14 copies of Jason Santa

  Santa Santa Santa Santa Santa Santa

  Santa Santa Maria every time it's think

  that an extra Santa I blame him you

  don't need three names that seems

  excessive to me what the hell did that


  we should talk about this on another

  showcase this is probably too long

  already but this is this is this is the

  thing what you're describing

  yes I wish I had that I wish I could do

  that on the desktop i wish there was a

  desktop dingus where I could go in and

  say here's all the audit you know what I

  mean like I know that sounds ridiculous

  right why why is it that i have to

  re-enter those hobbled iOS abbreviations

  on every device i sit there with two

  devices open to try to make a matchup

  that should be synced through iCloud

  that seems like a no-brainer but then

  what now going to go into the going to

  the experience on iOS of having to do

  that you get this long ugly list that's

  totally unwieldy and that's the problem

  notifications like tell me how a normal

  person who's not a nerd with time

  to kill gets all the notifications the

  way they want because here's what

  happens you got a new app

  hey this thing would like to give you

  notifications well of course I want

  notifications I'm not an idiot

  you hit it and suddenly you're finding

  out that somebody just leveled up on

  food book or whatever him now you know

  Jonas has an old 3gs center right now

  they play the games on and he's always

  get notifications from the stupid games

  he plays like you know you installed it

  gets a new game a ninety-nine cents and

  he okay's the the get notifications and

  it's stupid stuff like you know you

  haven't haven't played we miss you

  you're eligible for a smart bomb

  yeah there's no bullets available in the

  cowboy game and I mean and it's like I I

  go I see that I go in there and I just

  turned it all I turn it all off its like

  no you don't you don't get to send text

  messages to make it telling mrs. no I

  don't want to rehash my extensive lining

  i did imac power users a couple weeks

  ago because i went into a pretty long

  thing on this but what I mean this is

  one part that I wish that I cloud I

  think could do a better job with ok

  the basic value proposition of the Apple

  products the the way that it's evolving

  in a way that I like and I'm happy with

  is that they are trying on some level to

  simplify the experience right i mean you

  know you go in you by your new iOS

  device you don't need to own a mac like

  that's really cool in theory right then

  how do you delete large files

  how do you know how much space is left

  on your phone we all obviously you drill

  down into settings and going to usage

  and then go in there and you delete all

  of your music or you keep all of your

  music like that's a little ham-fisted

  for me but the problem is so striking

  that instance like it screw the idea of

  just owning a phone is great but like

  well let's take the total corner case

  let's say you're super rich guy you're

  super duper rich guy who just retired

  and you say you know what I'm going to

  buy one of these iphones when I was

  tricked out what I can

  I'm gonna buy all my favorite the

  loneliest monk records i'm going to get

  a 720p of my granddaughter taking our

  first steps

  pretty soon your phone's full you walk

  into the foundation meeting you like a

  dick like how do you how do you deal

  with all that stuff on there without

  either going through a million fiddly

  swipes or buy a mac i actually think

  android does a better job of this where


  first the first run you mean II well

  that you the basic idea is you buy a new

  iOS device that's just a an iphone and

  you give it your iCloud ID and it knows

  some stuff about you and it will set up

  some stuff and you can do stuff like go

  to the App Store and seed apps you

  already own that aren't installed on the

  phone and it also offer to let you back

  up from an iCloud backup but everything

  doesn't come with that it seems to me it

  doesn't seem like you get everything if

  you don't really do a restart now my

  I've done I've had two unsuccessful

  restores and one successful restore the

  first time it was successful which

  seemed like Disney Matt

  seemed like Disney Matt

  dick but i did a restore of my eye when

  I got an ipad 20 you know and the thing

  is John this is the Albatross we must

  constantly mention this to people I'm

  click to encrypt in itunes because i

  love your passwords why is that not

  default i have no you will not get your

  settings and let you have that turned on

  its a marker trick but we've been clear

  about what this is very flattered when

  interacting you're going you know I got

  it when you back up and iOS device to

  your Mac or presumably a windows machine

  not to iCloud but to your Mac and I say

  do both i do the iCloud backups and the

  mac backups because I figured you know

  can't lose with you my daughter

  suspenders yeah but when you back up to

  your Mac if you encrypt the backup even

  if you are not worried about somebody

  snooping into your backup even if you

  are completely certain that even if

  you're using the the file vault and you

  feel like you're covered because your

  whole disk is encrypted so why encrypt

  your backup you gotta click that button

  and encrypt your back up with a password

  because then then and only then your

  backup book includes your passwords and

  then when you restore from that backup

  you don't have to enter every single

  email accounts password again which

  could have been so much easier to

  explain if there was a check box that

  said remember my settings right and then

  ? for help i can tell you I down the

  exact same as you where I was went years

  on iOS without doing that because I was

  not concerned about the the security I

  anybody who had access to my Mac what's

  the long way to phrase it i mean right

  it's that it's really it's really


  I mean because that's what you're the

  value of that that seems like a nerd bit

  to flip right right but it's absolutely

  you know when it when I want to save my

  butt was a friend of friend who's not me

  was on iOS 5 beta lion beta and atv data

  atv tube8 all at the same time no sorry

  originally anyway the point being i was

  constantly restoring constantly

  constantly constantly restoring I mean

  if you're probably on the 5 beta do you

  remember when was like oh my god

  suddenly Wi-Fi sinking worked

  yeah and you're like this is the most of

  it and then suddenly one day not only

  did it stop working but it wouldn't take

  a tethered did you get this one where it


  not only stop backing upper 60s me stop

  not only stopped syncing with itunes but

  you couldn't reach either it thought it

  was it like a dead other somebody else's

  phone so you have to do a full restore

  so God God save you you better have a

  full backup of that with your passwords

  or you're gonna be you're gonna lose

  half a day every time that happens so I

  mean that that's an example though of

  that that's up there will be a piece of

  you I what I'm trying to say though is

  like in the past in itunes as flawed and

  goofy as itunes is at least I always had

  a sense that there's a folder somewhere

  we're all my mp3 is live and let me be

  clear i love itunes match I have become

  a big fan of itunes match in a lot of

  ways but we're losing our sense of place

  with Apple devices and that's what's

  that's one thing starting to frustrate


  we're getting a collision of the

  embarrassment of riches of all the great

  stuff we can have my gosh you're kidding

  me i throw in some hundred 28k version

  of the song and now it's just everywhere

  like how is that allowed to happen

  that's amazing but if I pull down if

  that rich guy goes or gal goes and pulls

  down everything loneliest monk record

  256k get whatever those are big files

  right they bottle that music where's

  that music live well obviously just go

  to iTunes so you can delete and

  redownload it is that's super obvious to

  most people do you think i don't know i

  don't know that it is and i still think

  i think that the roots of iOS being

  without any iCloud we're just being

  something that syncs to your Mac that it

  still is not shaking those roots

  I don't think it's as clear that that

  the stuff economically lives in our did

  you know to put it is certainly not

  because in the cloud

  they're certainly not one correct way to

  do it anymore either in theory or

  practice um I mean the iCloud sinking is

  great arm again now I mean there's all

  kinds of things world that the trust is

  not there for me I still don't

  understand why I can't enter this one

  email address in 3c I messages in this

  one place it's in use under the device

  ok what devices that we're like I don't

  know how to fix that and I went to

  college and stuff like I think there's a

  lot of stuff that's pretty confusing but

  this the collision that I think is

  interesting from a John Gruber

  standpoint is that it is so great that

  we've got all this stuff the fact that I

  cloud works at all

  is amazing and the fact you know I like

  Dropbox in some ways which is better

  it is amazing that that works but now

  you've got this collision of oh my gosh

  abbreviations on iOS are great but if

  they don't sink I've got to go reenter

  those I mean yeah why don't they sink

  where they supposedly is it a bug or I

  don't get that I don't know it'sit's for

  now though it certainly doesn't make me

  worry about the future of text expander

  that's for sure

  at least in my head like but but here's

  the problem with that okay so that's

  frustrating i understand apples great

  about rolling stuff up when wrong stuff

  out when it's ready so I get that you

  don't overwhelm people with all these

  different things but first of all it

  feels real hockey

  I'm glad it's there but it's tacky i

  would have to manually keep this updated

  all over the place but look at every app

  I use instant cast nebulous notes

  nebulous macros I can export and import

  through dropbox to anywhere I can spit

  out my instant cast as opml and move it

  anywhere right and and this is this is

  where I get my tinfoil hat on is the

  that collision of the power of what this

  can do the large you know the ability to

  have these high quality files you know

  the 720p videos add up

  you know what I mean all that stuff then

  colliding with ok now how do I handle

  having all these notifications

  that's a lot of bits to flip on a screen

  that sighs you know I mean like it's an

  interesting inflection point for Apple

  because as they try and make this more

  simple as they do add the sandboxing as

  they try and bring in this fatter middle

  part of the adoption curve i think these

  collisions are going to get interesting

  to watch and I'm sure they will in the

  meantime fix them even as new collisions

  come up but did you see that as a

  tension at all dude i'm afraid i don't

  know if i'm posting this question right

  now I'm not sure you are there you've

  got a lot of great stuff out there

  they're trying to make it simple but

  they're trying to potentially introduce

  simplicity into something that is native


  yeah very where my music natives and how

  I not get this notification or even

  where your preferences live like in the

  old days it used to be real simple

  reason your preferences folder in Iowa

  you would well on the mac not on is

  because you never had access to the

  folders we're not even an iOS though I

  mean why increasingly I'm seeing

  preferences inside of that

  but there's still tons of times right by

  a nap and I buy a lot of apps and i'll

  open up and I'll go hm i can change some

  things in here but it feels like i can

  probably change more so what do i do i

  click the home button i go to settings

  and then I go discover that there's an

  area in there where I can change more

  and sometimes that is one more for the

  call it a radio button but one flip

  checkbox that will be reset cash it

  might just be that it might be huh

  or it might be something like good

  reader where you're like oh my god

  there's like 16 pages of preferences in

  here right and I don't feel like there's

  any kind of standard for is their

  standard for wear that stuff should go

  and no not really

  they used to say that used to be the big

  that the the guideline was that all

  settings go into settings app and that

  app shouldn't have settings and that's

  why did they might even still be in the

  head but nobody nobody crosses dead

  because there's too many settings that

  are to you don't want to you know like

  in in tweet bot on a per account basis

  you can set up a read it later service

  like Instapaper or pin board or image

  posting or yes shortening or meeting you

  can write I think you can mute hashtags

  and people on one account and not on

  another right and it would be

  infuriating if you had to go to the

  Settings up to do that you know it

  belongs in the app but my point though

  is more like in the old days if you want

  if you had two machines and to max and

  you want the exact same bbedit set up in

  both you knew what to do go to the one

  that set up the way you want to take the

  Preferences copying over to the other

  one put them in the Preferences folder

  and then boom you've got them now they

  wouldn't it wouldn't stay in sync but

  you could at least you knew that it

  wouldn't stay in sync right you know and

  you could start with a known good

  preferences file put it over on the

  other one and then you'd have those

  preferences you can't there's no way to

  do that in iOS like if you've got this

  you know you've got all these cool

  abbreviation set up on one device and

  now you've got this other device and you

  want those abbreviations will have to

  you you've got to sit there and type

  them all out by hand right

  yeah I hmm i don't know there's there's

  I guess the the tinfoil hat part for me

  is that the house a lack of vision

  because there's certainly a lot of

  vision happening but there's certainly a

  lot of ambition going on with all of

  these things but it's a weird universe

  where is a strange universe to me wear

  something like the hacky abbreviation

  stuff sets sits alongside the ability to

  restore and ipad um and where I don't

  know I just feel like I don't have this

  total level of confidence like you just

  said I mean you sort of course back in

  the day you could just take extensions

  out and restart and that would work i'm

  happy to give that up it's tough runs

  you know what i mean i don't know i

  don't know what that is I don't know

  that's protected memory journaling

  whatever like I'm glad I don't have to

  deal with that stuff anymore personally

  but at the same time the implementation

  of this simplicity combined with things

  like sandbox and gives me the fear in

  terms of how I actually work and how

  much I don't mean to whine I know people

  will say I'm whining about Apple but you

  know what I'm saying like it'sit's still

  like when i open up txt edit and it

  gives me a dialog box

  I'm sorry one of her friend is not me

  opens text edit on mountain lion and get

  to the dialog box for the cloud it's

  like what like I don't you know what I

  mean that that feels really perplexing

  to me kinda awesome though in a

  different way if you're not if you just

  come at it as like with like a fresh set

  of eyes I could see that particularly

  being true for you as for example of ppl

  a user right because you're like you

  ever sit there and go oh what should I

  open this text at txt file in you I'm

  getting very rarely it's going to be

  beheaded or the terminal making right

  you're not right i mean if you open a

  text file is going to be at it right and

  so having all of your cloudy stuff i

  clouded stuff in that one pp edit barrel

  is okay with you yeah but that's you

  know that's the for somebody like me and

  you drop boxes the better solution right

  everything i doing BB

  that you saved in a dropbox folder not

  you know I'm not really looking i don't

  really care of

  bbedit ever supports iCloud I don't

  think i would I doubt I would run an app

  store version of BB edit and the only

  wonder if we'll ever have to don't you

  wonder I mean I that I can't see I don't

  see where that that's not coming i'm not

  trying to be slippery slope guy but I

  don't caii getting hard for me to

  imagine a future where that's not the

  way you're at least supposed to do it

  yeah it's that I think I wrote about

  this recently where there's some weird

  carrot-and-stick action and I don't

  think apple is ever ever going to i

  really don't i think it's so long as

  there is a mac that there will not there

  will not be a everything has to come

  through the app store rule the

  gatekeeper thing is a lot of work and

  they're trying to really trying to do

  the right thing which is allow

  third-party apps that didn't go through

  the app store to have the security and

  sort of peace of mind that

  hey it's not malware or and it's not

  going to do anything it's not supposed

  to do and if it is Apple can revoke this

  sort of certification and and keep it

  from running elsewhere again a great

  great stuff and I really don't think

  that that's a half step towards making

  everybody do the app store i really

  think it's a half step towards hey let's

  bring some of these advantage of the of

  the app store to other apps the way that

  they're doing it other with is to add

  these new features that you can only get

  through the app store and if the

  features are compelling enough

  everybody's going to opt-in you know you

  said as much in your article if you want

  i think is yes that's feel like slider

  read but if you want to have icloud

  stuff you have to sell your it has to go

  through the app stores ever act right

  dense and a no and I can see there's

  good reasons for that beyond just being

  trying to get thirty percent of the

  revenue from the apps being sold it's

  not just about the money and I really

  you know financially the money that

  Apple get from the app store it's

  nothing to sneeze at but it right and

  it's a red herring

  I think the security thing is it is a

  great idea that's also right here it's

  about control they value they value the

  control far more

  they value the money i mean that's you

  know they could you know the money from

  the app store probably doesn't even know

  if it covers the charitable

  contributions they that they do for the

  employees with the matching funds I mean

  it's just not that much money it's the

  control they want control more than they

  want more money they make all the money

  all the money comes from selling that

  the hardware whereby all I mean alright

  effectively oh yeah you know put a

  little asterisk there it's the control

  and it's the fact that hey we've got

  these dismiss these data centers and

  this is where all the iCloud stuff is

  sold and we control everything that's

  stored here we know everything now that

  you know that you can set you can email

  yourself a copy of anything so it's like

  you know in the email is served on their

  iCloud servers but they know that you

  know that's going through imap it's

  under their control

  they're not going to so I don't mean it

  in that they control the content

  I just mean that they control the means


  so if every single app that wants to do

  read right to to iCloud has two they

  want to have control over that means it

  has to go through the app store so I

  understand that and for some apps its

  iCloud sinking is so compelling that

  they're going to go app store only I

  mean and speaking of barebone software

  that's what they're going to do with no

  Jimbo maybe have to write well I mean

  that the mobileme things right one of

  the most notorious examples i'm not know

  that they're notorious but that the one

  of the like the heartbreaking examples

  of they had this app that was working

  great for nerds right and now it's not

  as simple as just changing some few

  lines of code it's really it's a

  different API right right i mean and yea

  heartbreaking in the sense of an awful

  lot of of very smart guys and long-term

  Apple developers I mean honestly

  personal friends of mine also but you

  know just the good guys

  I mean I don't think there's anybody

  whether you use their apps or not nobody

  the little things about barebone

  software and things that there anything

  other than good guys at the buzzer

  burnin cycles on trying to keep well no

  but they've lost

  no but it's the tragedy that mean again

  it's tragedy in terms of lost developer

  time not

  tragedy in terms of you know darker or

  something like that I you know I mean

  we're you know we're nerds but you know

  so keep it in perspective but no but the

  way you Jimbo we used to work with

  mobileme was fantastic it was like that

  it was the existence proof that mobileme

  actually wasn't a total garbage you know

  its reputation notwithstanding and in

  fact they actually the sinking that your

  jumbo did the mobileme like it it took

  out a ton of bugs in mobile knees sink

  service and it worked it absolutely

  worked i can vouch for that for you know

  a long time i wave i did to max both

  running Jimbo and sink through mobileme

  and I don't think I ever lost a

  keystroke you know and i would type it

  on one on my air and shut the lid and

  turn and just 10 seconds later i'm

  looking at my other machine and there's

  that bookmark that I just yo Jimbo down

  the machine right next to it it was

  great and now it's you know it's gone

  because mobile he's gone and if you want

  to sink two no Jimbo libraries which is

  super super useful

  I you know you can do it now through

  dropbox but it's kind of a hack and you

  have to quit one copy of your jumbo

  before you launch the other and stuff

  like that and they're going to switch to

  iCloud sinking but because they're

  switching to iCloud syncing now it has

  to be an app store on the app and I

  think you're going to hear that story

  more and more

  well yeah you're going to see people

  like Manton or you know smile that's

  just going to have to take it someplace

  else you know which is which is

  certainly a bomber as well right but it

  feels like and I'm not saying this is by

  design but there's always a little bit

  of sugar in the medicine there's there's

  you know always I mean I cloud

  yeah you're sticking your iCloud

  documents to various things it is it's

  it's great i mean it's a really neat

  thing I cloud preferences any of that

  stuff it's it's a really neat idea on

  some level it does really feel like

  they're solving a problem that's already

  been solved better by Dropbox which for

  me has just worked so well that it's

  it's just kinda scary how well it works

  but you know just for an edge case like

  me what I give up in the potentially

  losing the ability to have this text

  about being usable by different apps you

  know that's that's a sucky trade-off for

  me but i don't know i mean is this is

  this is which

  what about this before everybody's

  talking about this but you gotta follow

  Appa's lead where you're going to get

  totally left behind right you know

  thinking you know yet you know what if

  you wanna if you want your scroll to go

  this way enjoy that for maybe a year

  because that that little legacy button I

  like it the old way is probably going to

  go away at some point you know I mean

  but it's it's the part for me as a no as

  having as a person whose use this stuff

  for 25 years or however long it's been

  alright so like that wow that's freaky

  yeah 25 years is that I've always found

  the most interesting stuff on the edges

  and the things that compensate for

  something Apple wasn't doing often ended

  up being the thing that I really love

  even if it was something Apple was doing

  i frequently found a way to do it better

  and that was okay you know what I mean I

  you know obviously there's things like

  transmit like I don't think they had an

  ftp app apart from the terminal so I

  mean stuff i transmit no problem but you

  know I haven't even say deficits i mean

  i would say that Apple has for the last

  however many 5-10 years has been getting

  better and better and better at making

  something extremely stable that you

  could add onto to enhance your

  experience with what you're doing on

  your mac in particular and I i developed

  certain habits around that and I certain

  expectations about how things work and

  you know a friend who's not me that has

  been really wondering like wonder why

  open with isn't available in the finder

  sometimes and seeing that state because

  i use OD is open with a lot probably not

  always at that point I is open with all

  the time so we're talking about

  ctrl-click or right or right click on a

  document and your present with a menu of

  every app that your Mac knows of that

  could open this document so if that's a

  text file or Die movie they'll be a lot

  well why the heck would you want this

  wouldn't you just want to click on HTML

  and have it open in safari no I might

  want to go edit that bbedit which is my

  go-to for HTML editing i might want to

  open that text me if I want to turn that

  into mark down and do the writing system

  where I do the writing i might want to

  open in chrome if it's a movie so we're

  done with this call I will have a dot

  mov file

  of two tracks and the only app that lets

  me edit that well is quicktime player 7

  right if I open in quicktime it's not I

  mean it's not even a comparison ID quick

  the t keep seven around i think i do on

  my machine but i haven't had a reason

  for it to use it pearl but on the face

  of it

  clicking got a movie that makes a lot of

  sense that that would open in whatever i

  guess that the itunes but like what if

  what if you like VLC well that's a much

  better experience in a lot of ways for

  me but that media files are the big news

  from open with because you know what are

  you gonna do with an image its could be

  widely widely vary i just want to look

  at it

  well I had just opened preview or

  whatever but I want to be printed it

  previously good guess but if you exactly

  if you want to open with a I want to

  edit it i want to open an acorn but I

  actually I don't want to use a corn

  because i want better I I specifically

  wanted to put text in it and I like the

  way the Pixelmator does text better so I

  want to open in Pixelmator and write

  something like that or I just want to

  open a browser because i actually want

  to see how this ping it if the colors

  are actually going to look good in the

  browser as I think they are because it's

  you know it's got a color profile right

  yeah I was open with all the time and is

  that might just be me but I feel like

  it's just you i I'm looking in another

  guy a guy over here away it's not you

  did you get it was nothing

  yeah i got an open with I think you

  might have to add that for your app I'm

  not sure you know what I have no idea

  i'm talking to my buddy lost my friend

  is not me that check it out but I don't

  know anyway yeah it's a it's it's

  there's so much exciting and good stuff

  happening and and it's I think it's

  sometimes frustrating for people inside

  and outside the apple bubble because

  there's so much that Apple does really

  well a lot of the time and there's

  almost always something that they could

  be doing better that ethic as you have

  documented over time that they are

  probably working on and and that's

  served me so well in the last few years

  it's only recently that I've got a

  little bit of the fear and and really it

  is because it's not because I'm being

  perfidious it's because I really this is

  what i use i don't know what else I

  would use besides this stuff but at this

  point for me i can afford to be a


  it makes fun of people who are

  physically with their workflow because i

  have a workflow is bulletproof and it's

  what is a workflow that I would will

  have to amend for sure if I want to keep

  using all this stuff in the way that I I

  suspect it's going

  yeah i went to shows running a little

  long but I was sorry I know that's right

  well I wouldn't do that would happen

  with you but I i have a little bit more

  i want to talk to you about but and then

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  you just get nothing and you just get a

  thing from apple that is nothing you

  like it right

  did it just gives you a number you just

  that's just it you go like you go to the

  Apple what is Apple tell you like if

  your app is did it's just they just give

  you number 6 500 but I just and that's

  it and then the next week it just says

  that you know 375 that's it that's all

  you know and then the check comes at the

  end of the month you don't know anything

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  refers it would be entirely not really

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  Marco is an example it comes to mind but

  somebody who's you know wanting wanting

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  sit as a transitive verb if they want to

  make sure their business keeps growing

  they're going to need decide where to

  level resources where to put things and

  it's not simply a douche thing or you

  know we go surfing thing its business

  intelligence in the actual sense of the

  word and again that you're having a hack

  that in yourself but what a great

  service to have and does it do stuff

  like I mean so so how would it know that

  it came from your site

  I because it can't say didn't imagine I

  you know I don't even know how it works

  i guess because the link you do you get

  with the Lincoln and the link comes in

  with a little bit of like a referral

  code type thing and

  but it works

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  I think I that was good we got into some

  good stuff and now facing brave

  no not yet i have not really where I

  haven't taken the boys see any of these

  summer movies and now we're so far but

  are we saw the Avengers but haven't seen

  one since so we haven't seen brave we

  wanted to see men in black I don't know

  that's even in the theaters anymore so

  forget about that got to see brave

  haven't seen spider-man you have me back

  for next week well here's the thing i

  wanted to i just want to go through this

  list of it's a little noisy it's a

  little topical little you know and it

  satisfies you know I feel like a we have

  a chance to talk about the the tablet


  well we can do that ok then wrapped up

  and it kind of ties in with this which

  is all this stuff that google announced

  that the i/o conference and it made me

  think about the fact that almost

  everything google and apple are doing

  there that they're like two gears where

  you know what anybody would be called

  the way that the the teeth go together

  like in almost every regard one of them

  is ahead and the others catching up or

  the other ones ahead and the other one

  is catching up right and the google i/o

  listo he's just my notes i watch i watch

  their their their keynote and almost

  everything is what it's always one or

  the other so that's one of the first

  things i mentioned was project butter to

  get everything up to 60 frames per

  second and triple buffering and and all

  this stuff

  clearly they're trying to catch up to

  iOS their iOS has always been very

  smooth animation wise touch response

  lies android has not say whatever you

  want about android it hasn't now they're

  they're even

  Google's tacitly acknowledging that

  they're catching up let's catch up for

  google then they didn't offline voice

  typing we know where you can dictate to

  the phone and it even works without an

  internet connection well that's

  something where google has been ahead of

  apple apple and Google's had voice

  dictation in an android for a couple

  years now and it works really good and I

  do think I i think it's faster

  do you use the dictation on the iphone i

  use it all the time i guess a city

  person i'm always out walking around and

  if I you know it's to send a text to my

  wife or whoever if I'm on the sidewalk

  walking i'll just hold down the button

  and dictated and it was so much better

  than trying to thumb type while you're

  actually walking but sometimes you do it

  and you get the little purple blinking

  lights and they're like blink blink

  blink but it's totally drunk dad like

  drunk dad drunk that comes to the plate

  just enough just often enough to break

  your heart yeah like I sit there and

  like I tried to demo that for somebody

  and I look like I'm out of my mind I'm

  just talking into my phone nothing

  happens and then sometimes I'll be

  sitting there and in the i'll be outside

  and it's windy and the train going by

  and I'll say three sentences and it gets

  it flawlessly in like a tenth of a

  second like it's already done it before

  you finish the set

  it's completely crazy making you know

  what I wish it was always exactly one

  sent one second

  put in july i don't care what you wanted

  I want you don't mean I'm sorry but that

  there yes it should work and it makes me

  so crazy and then Syria forget them does

  understand my name anymore but I think

  Google's ahead on that I do and and they

  and the fact that now they have offline

  voice typing definitely puts them at it

  so you can still you can get some of

  this without even having a network

  connection so if you know i mean i think

  that clearly puts them ahead although it

  is right now you at the offline stuff is

  us english only but apple doesn't have

  any offline voice dictation what else to

  denounce expanding including including a

  mountain lion actually enough

  yes true expandable notifications with

  likereply buttons and and stuff like

  that i think that the whole notification

  center thing in the phone I think

  android is still I think you know I

  think it's pretty safe to say it's ahead

  of of the iphone in that room

  art like so if you get an email and a

  notification thing there's a little

  button they have you can just reply to

  it right there and make it go away

  that seems super convenient to me who

  here's my favorite this is my favorite

  then I get and I might i'm not going in

  the order that they announce stuff

  because this i think came than that

  their day to keynote but with it was a

  chrome tabs sinking do you use chrome

  and use safari yes and yes I mean no no

  it's here yes i do this both but I use

  chrome and I got the tab seeking and I

  it's amazing it is amazing and i run

  into this situation all day and then

  maybe this is me because i'm john gruber

  the guy links to lots of things but i

  know that there's this thing that i read

  that i want to link to but I don't

  remember where the hell i read it did i

  read it on my phone that i read it on my

  mac i read it on the macbook air isn't

  any ipad but i know i left it open

  wherever it was because I wanted to link

  it right from there and it's still

  hadn't done it and where the hell is and

  if you use chrome and you have on this

  tab sinking you can just go there and

  i'll show you all of your open tabs from

  all your devices and instant updates

  instantly and to me it's a brilliant

  feature as a guy who leaves open tabs on

  browsers all over the place and I'm

  playing around with it with the chrome

  for iOS and it wasn't you know it never

  misses a beat

  whereas apple on the other hand now

  they're working on the same type of

  feature but it's not coming to iOS 6 and

  it's not coming to the mac until

  mountain lion but in the meantime

  they've got the one thing they do sync

  with safari is the reading list which is

  sort of like they're built into the

  paper thing right

  I use that i use it not not ice you know

  don't use it as a replacement for

  instapaper instapaper is where I send

  stuff where I really do want to sit down

  in a nice comfortable chair and read

  stuff i will use the apple reading list

  just to send a URL from one machine to

  another right now i see like i never had

  more than three or four urls in my

  reading list for Apple because that's

  all I use it for I am on the ipad and I

  want to link to this i know i want to

  link to it from during far but i want to

  write more than I want to type on the

  ipad soft add it to my reading list go

  over sit down from my mac go to reading

  list and the damn thing isn't there and

  there's no reload button

  you just have to sit there and wait

  until you get lucky and it decides to do

  a sink and get it and I figured out that

  it does help though you can trigger it

  there's no reload button but you can

  trigger it by adding another thing to

  the reading list on the machine you're

  on just to just to get it to say just

  say just tell safari hate talk to the

  reading list sir I've done that with

  dropbox or creative folderol touch i'll

  do a touch on something just to like say

  ok update but here's the craziest thing

  the craziest thing is with safari with

  the reading list

  other times though you'll say add the

  reading list and you get an alert you

  get a dialog box that says it can't do

  it right now because bookmarks are

  sinking I get that all the time because

  I I'll go in and want to do one of my

  bookmark site i do my books mostly from

  the little book the little you don't

  mean yeah I just leave my bookmarks menu

  bookmarks bar whatever it is I just

  leave that open i don't use history much

  so I just leave that open forever going

  in there what do I have quicks for kicks

  or whatever

  instapaper Italy any of those yeah but

  then suddenly you good and will be these

  folders in there it's like sorry nothing

  here right now which is harrowing right

  even for a second isn't that we all it's


  I mean it's like you get default up

  paying right you should be something

  this looks like my stuff is that I had

  an iphone replaced all a while ago was

  in the in the sinking era and how to go

  to the apple store and get a get a unit

  swapped out and I got the new and they

  open it up and I put in my and they're

  like hey you know we got super fast

  Wi-Fi here to connect to that you could

  you know restore from iCloud backup and

  I was again why don't I just do that you

  know i mean if you know it seems super

  convenient when I just didn't have the

  eyes I walk out of the store i'll have

  all my stuff on my phone and I type in

  my icloud name and password and it says

  you want to restore from a backup and

  the the most recent backup was like

  seven months before I was like oh my god

  like my now I i double back up i also

  backup to my mac at home but still as a

  you know as a nerd that that's like a

  heart attack right there right and the

  expert guy was like the music I know

  what it is it's because that you

  probably have the

  you're the phone you just swapped out

  had ios 5.1 and in this phone as 501

  in other words the phone that they gave

  me the replacement had an older version

  of iOS but it didn't let you log in

  yeah but in other words that only let me

  update from the backup from when i was

  using that version of iOS you know what

  I mean like I ideal and I think that

  must be what happened to me one time on

  my iPad didn't do the research so i had

  to update the phone to the new version

  of iOS first then I could restore to the

  thing but that that's that same thing

  that moment areum thing where what it

  shows you and not what you expected and

  what it's showing you is involves data

  loss it's like oh my god and you did

  that from your Mac from your laptop did

  the restoring order yeah i just said the

  I what I ended up doing is just leaving

  the store with the phone in factory

  condition and just went home and and

  updated and all from the mac how much

  you okay i guess but anyway how much how

  would you have done if I'm sorry how

  would you have done if you don't have a

  mac i would have first updated the OS to

  iOS 5.1 over the war over the erica and

  then I then restored from backup

  ok so you could do it good better

  planned on that one for backup dork

  right but anyway with Apple sinking tabs

  right now singing bookmarks you can't

  even add a new bookmark while it's

  syncing bookmarks and this seems to

  happen to me all the time and it's not

  like something i ran into once I mean

  this is a dialogue i get all the time or

  we're on the other hand with chrome and

  google all your open tabs are synced

  instantly between everything let alone

  your bookmarks so anyway Apple clearly

  chasing google in that regard sinking

  these the the browser data google now

  there's one where i actually think even

  know that you know that's like their

  Serie like thing that's something that

  even though they haven't had anything

  that's quite like Siri in terms of the

  user experience in terms of the actual

  hey who knows how to do stuff like this

  that's right in Google's wheelhouse


  in other words what what is siri siri is

  let me give you a couple of words and

  you figure out what I mean

  then show it and you know all google

  really had to copy from Apple was this

  idea of you know what if we really know

  if we know exactly what the users asking

  for if they just say Yankees score we

  know we're a hundred ninety-nine percent

  sure we're a hundred percent sure this

  guy wants to know what the most recent

  Yankee score is we can show that

  information using a design template

  known for this particular nugget you

  know of data i think that the google now

  thing looks great only thing i hate

  about is the name the name is so stupid

  i got last week on the show I got

  confused when Adam was talking about it

  because he was saying something about

  google now and I thought he meant google

  the company today today's google google

  here would be better

  no because of how would you spell here

  see ya see this is why you got the

  popular blog that's true but that you

  know that is you talk about the special

  sauce supposedly this truly special


  it's just just for mrs. google is the

  scale everybody says the real thing

  about Google scale but the thing that we

  see those the consumer-facing thing is

  that like we're pretty sure we know what

  you want right we know going to want and

  we and because we know what you want we

  can show it to you in a way that is far

  more both pleasing and informative and

  and conveys the information better than

  a just a list of texts results right of

  any anything and everything and then we

  won't throw up our hands with serious

  because series got a couple level three

  levels of problem which is first of all

  there's the connectivity issues trying

  to place my relatives yesterday who are

  her recent iphone people I said you know

  it's a little sprite no I typically

  terrible analogies but it's kinda like

  having an eight-lane freeway where you

  really need like you would you could be

  okay if it was a 16 lane freeway and

  still find room like you like your

  series Scott to get to the clouds got to

  get to where you want to call it the sky

  and Cirie has to talk to something to

  get it so there's the problem of like if

  the bandwidth isn't there you're not

  hooked up right you know hooked up to

  where it can get

  it's not going to happen but even then

  like you could get the server error

  which was I'm percent which I read as

  it's just too

  busy it's not it's pretty taciturn about

  explaining why it didn't work right but

  then the other problem that is running I

  feel like I run into more and it doesn't

  make sense to me is it just doesn't get

  words right like words that I say all

  the time unless unless i'm having some

  kind of palsy

  I don't understand why it's having a

  harder time rather than better time

  understanding me but I don't have a

  problem see really does seem to

  understand me i get the fall back to I

  don't mind the Wolfram Alpha fall back

  because that's like pretty good but i do

  get a lot of you know do you want to

  search the web for ma'am Mambo dogface

  to the banana patch or whatever but in

  this instance I think you're describing

  here is really great especially if

  you're busy you're on the run the

  ability to just say two words like

  everyone is in Philadelphia but like say

  you might say nearest muni write

  something just by just by understanding

  like there's several factors that can go

  into having a pretty good idea what it

  is i'm looking for and even being able

  to fall back on that you mean one of

  these three things you know like from

  alpha is pretty great at that ever use

  i'm gonna use the website a lot i didn't

  do i use it use it for all my stock

  stuff on a link from doing for i find

  that they're there

  yeah they're they're they're really good

  and I'm not surprised at all that

  Apple's oh it's terrific relying on them

  for a lot of the serious stuff

  my only beef with the website is they've

  got a little bit bananas with all the

  like sign up for the pro account stuff

  yeah this they've taken a lot of

  features but you know you gotta make

  money whatever but like I i do this all

  time yesterday you know I said you know

  how many days is it from this date in

  this year to today to show my daughter

  how many days old she was and had a


  yeah you know what's-what's what is a

  what is on a hundred eleven percent of

  forty-six dollars because i just wanna

  know what the tip is for delivery I'm

  not that you know you as you know like

  you I'm good

  well you know what you think that's

  pretty good for delivery yeah i died i

  do it for delivery man as a hard one

  see I used to on the two-dollar people

  for a long time was a 20-percent person

  I think it's a sucker thing to twenty

  percent on delivery

  it's ridiculous I I tip 20 rounding down

  rather than rounding up the eleven

  percent a roundup which i think is very

  generous for delivery

  yeah so like a $55 delivery al

  tip 10 bucks right here i'll throw in

  ten bucks

  what's a hundred and eleven percent was

  again with the help of 255 dollar bill

  $55 855 even yeah okay what's a hundred

  eleven percent of $55 talking fast as I

  know we're almost out of time

  ok here you go miss a game eleven

  percent that's a six-dollar see my wife

  I differ on this let's get a little

  picture of a nickel

  that's cute I look at that but i always

  do that anyway they can see again my

  demos for the worst but um but I can see

  this being super useful so you watch

  your years what you're saying you're

  larger point that i keep interrupting

  you on is that gears and teeth so that

  the the thing I wonder about that in

  terms of moving forward with things is

  here isn't it might be the wrong analogy

  when I know I know but I didn't think

  they seem to complement each other where

  they're each working on the other's


  well I minimalistic this is matt other

  maps google claiming google as women way

  ahead of the game on maps and now

  everybody's buying these map companies

  everybody's doing their maps i think

  google i think the iOS mapped in the

  beta that I can't talk about is actually

  pretty good

  fashions not I and it is so fat he said

  he noticed that

  yeah and it looks beautifully easy i

  like the heart of this license and

  vector Rowling's yeah only around in

  maps is crazy fast yeah it's really

  really nice but it is missing the

  transit information which flawed or

  imperfect as it were as it is from

  google is better than nothing and street

  view is it

  we talked about this adam and john

  august i talked about this last week

  street view is more practically useful

  than the flyover view that Apple has

  apples flyer review is far more

  impressive feels like you're making a

  movie but in terms of hey i'm in the

  city or this neighborhood i'm not

  familiar with what am I supposed to be

  seeing if I'm looking you know this is

  what I'm looking for in Street View is

  like that and that cool thing that they

  demoed i don't know if you saw this they

  call it compass view they think the

  nexus 7 does it but you hold up like

  your tablet and it using the

  accelerometer and

  whatever else is in there you get it

  gives you like a live streetview like as

  you pivot the thing around it it's like

  a window into the world

  oh google earth where yeah it's not just

  it's not just the horizontal axis when

  you move it up right like if you want to

  select google goggles if you want to

  yeah if you want to turn around you

  actually just hold the thing up in front

  of your face and turn around and it

  shows you what you would see in its

  super useful I think Apple clean up by a

  even Apple technology after catching up

  on maps but then you get the google play

  which is there in their store and the

  apps everybody knows the android apps

  are nowhere near as good as iOS apps and

  they have way less like media content

  like they don't have music from Warner

  Brothers and like if you use itunes u

  dont even reviewed who the hell knows

  what the move the the records stations

  are right i mean right record companies

  are who knows who's on warner brothers

  and who's on universal or whatever like

  that it's just you just know that it's

  in these it's very rare these days that

  I don't find what I want on for music

  read books are different situation far

  very far different situation but no with

  music I I very seldom if anything i have

  to go figure out which one of this i

  want to i want the deluxe edition doing

  is the movie store they have nothing

  from Fox sono ice age

  x-men avatar none of the twilight movies

  and the TV store they don't have

  anything CBS fox WB HBO BBC MTV

  Nickelodeon Showtime discovery history

  networks so no madman no modern family

  no family guy I'm stealing this all from

  David Polk that sounds hard and I you

  know it's like one of those little

  underappreciated things about Apple is

  the way that they have over the decades

  since they've opened the itunes music

  store negotiated with all of these

  little fiefdom of media major media

  content holders in the US and around the

  world most importantly and I know that

  like even apple doesn't have TV shows

  all over the world but they certainly

  have more than just in the US right

  because that was the other thing that

  came out yesterday is that the the you

  can buy the the new google 7-inch tab

  it in the UK but you don't get any TV

  shows or movies or magazines or

  something like that because they don't

  have the rights for really really hard

  and apple is clearly ahead of them there

  and I think you know clearly amazon is

  to the Nexus Q that the crazy

  three-hundred-dollar media player

  I mean it's ridiculous 300 bucks and it

  does less than the apple TV that cost

  $99 I mean apples clearly ahead of their

  I mean the airplay thing is actually

  pretty awesome right

  I mean that's the I think that's what

  their airplanes airplane is ridiculous

  right bottom line magic

  yeah bottom line is that's what they

  have to catch up on because it's a

  killer feature is I've got this video

  for this photo

  unlike my kid i want to i want to watch

  this youtube video but it's no fun for

  three people to watch a video on a phone

  right i had a button it's on the appletv

  and it really unlike so many things it

  really does just work looks crazy that

  it just works right and and you know and

  yeah exactly could just be a youtube and

  now that everybody is shooting

  everything in HD and YouTube except

  everything in HD and you show and when

  you plant in a web browser window on

  your Mac it you know the HD thing is

  nice but when you plan on your Apple TV

  you can tell this is actually like HD

  really really so Google clearly catching

  up to apple right there

  I feel like everything they announced

  though is something that's either

  reinforcing one of their strengths that

  the other one doesn't have and/or

  announcing some sort of catch-up

  initiative in the other regard

  well it's I think there's probably I

  mean if I I don't follow this stuff

  anywhere near as close as you do but I

  mean I think there's probably of some a

  lot of good reasons for that I mean one

  thing is that i imagine that

  shareholders and a lot of there's still

  a lot of people that respond very well

  to tables with check marks and it's you

  know it's one of those frustrating to me

  to me personally it's one of those

  frustrating like okay I go I want to

  find out which version of this adobe

  thing I've gotta buy and I gotta sit

  there and like move my finger down the

  screen but you know I'm talking about

  don't know that the web professional

  enterprise prayer well what about your

  your buddy Brett tipsters

  iOS text editor chart which is like one

  of the great wonders of the world but

  you can flip off the columns you don't

  need right that sometimes you know but

  sometimes I'm I'm positing that I'm

  putting that as you know a place where

  that actually is useful

  well I'm but just to go straight to your

  to your thing though I mean like I think

  it's pretty and I jokingly referred to

  this earlier but i think it is pretty

  great that you can make fun of apple for

  their like by this white thing or that

  white thing but i think it is pretty

  great that you can actually it's not

  really that hard to go in and buy this

  thing on your phone like if you want to

  buy an ipad it's not super hard like

  they're they're all my gosh it's

  overwhelming there's eight options or

  whatever I think that's really really

  neat we are reducing the number of SKUs

  you're making easier to buy you're not

  doing this who have somebody had that

  whole post about trying to the dell site

  and like having to identify whether

  there are student or a multimedia user

  and it's just that kind of like that

  kind of brain-dead business unit

  thinking that led us to this terrible

  websites where was organized around

  company 50 times

  I'm to the point I want to make is that

  for a lot of people there is one of the

  soldiers rephrase down good enough to

  not be nothing and I don't know if

  that's good or not but i just wrote that


  sometimes you just want to i think in a

  company a lot of companies with that

  have a pretty popular normal kind of

  approach to business

  say something that's good enough to not

  be nothing and I think that's the kind

  of thing that really grinds your gears

  is when somebody does something that is

  merely something that's good enough to

  not be nothing and i think its seat

  strikes me that was very frustrating to

  you when a lot of Polish care business

  document integration at every step of

  the the kind of thing that makes an

  iphone which is a really magical device

  you know it's not it shouldn't be as

  simple as just going oh yeah we got that

  too kind of right right so you're going

  to do we got some movies

  ok check right that for somebody who

  buys in that way and let's be honest a

  lot of enterprise people buy stuff like

  that thereby who's got the most checks

  and you know the thing is it isn't the

  consumer who came up with that grid you

  know the kind of ground talking about i

  know get the three levels of service

  would you get this one you get the free

  Johnson rod or whatever I think that

  good and we're going to say good enough

  to not be nothing is plenty for a lot of


  and you know netflix netflix streaming

  came out boy it was it was really the

  kind of thing I used to make you want to

  cancel my cable at any level of quality

  so but also i mean there's also just

  this philosophical difference in

  approach and i mean i guess and i don't

  mean this in the way that it sounds but

  i wonder how much this matters to people

  who are not strictly partisans for

  google apple or otherwise i mean i think

  a lot of people just want to cheap phone

  that does stuff and they go oh cool i

  can do movies now too

  well I think you hard winter because

  it's close enough to looking like that

  thing in the ads it's not going to cost

  me as much and and they're they're not

  gonna sit there and analyze whether this

  is closer to a kindle fire and ipad or a

  play play my store whatever its called

  I don't think that's almost bestbuy kind

  of people think and I don't know how

  kind of who they're going for I don't no

  don't don't you think that they're kind

  of going for people who want a

  twenty-dollar phone or want to go to

  bestbuy and get a black thing that's not

  an ipad i get maybe I reductive I mean

  that it's probably super productive and

  insulting to everyone involved but i

  don't think so i think with the play

  that I think they actually were very

  honest about it and that it or not to

  play the nexus 7 but that it's all about

  the play store when that they just said

  like three or four times they reiterated

  this is the thing that you buy for using

  content consuming content from google

  play apps movies TV shows magazine right

  right right we've got all this stuff you

  buy this thing for 199 bucks and that's

  how you use it you know and that's why I

  think it's so much more clearly which is

  kind of what the first apple TV was yeah

  definitely I mean it was kind of a

  hardware device for itunes yeah and it's

  funny because it got cheaper but got

  more versatile like that more expensive

  original one was far more limited to the

  itunes universe then then the current

  that's really that's a really

  interesting point because i actually I

  kind of wish so I just have a hacked

  apple TV i used to have hacked apple TV

  that would let me run all that stuff on

  it i used to do it a lot to be honest it

  was during the beta that I got sick of

  restoring and then reacting because it's

  a little bit of a pain but you know

  what's funny is I i didn't really miss

  it i can still use my Mac Mini with VLC

  to watch whatever but like if you know

  what's funny is if anything with my

  Apple I don't have those super super

  late because I told him it

  1080p TV but have a 1080i TV can you

  believe that exists it's not as our I

  don't even know what that it's like

  biometric gasoline or something just

  doesn't I don't even know what that


  um so but when r is there anything I

  wish I could take some icons away like I

  yeah we know it's funny we met that pal

  years the MLB guy i've made that crack

  about how like you doing incredibly

  impressive job with something I couldn't

  care less about and I mean that is the

  biggest compliment in the world and

  there will be things amazing like but I

  don't need to see that on my screen like

  I wish I could just see you know I mean

  Peters settings movies TV netflix

  podcast yeah you know it means you're

  crazy that you can't move those around I

  don't know how you would do it because I

  know the way that you know looks like

  something you would do by touch but it

  is enough but it does seem to know that

  somebody who who is a huge NBA fan

  should be able to move the NBA one to be

  more prominent than the major league

  baseball in and someone who doesn't like

  sports at all I be able to move those to

  the bottom

  oh yeah I mean I in an ideal world this

  is a little bit android i guess but it

  would have if you like my channels but

  you know what i mean like if you could

  say and then again this is a problem

  that has not been solved by stuff like

  boxy I mean or boxy swell plexus well

  I've tried all of them i think that's

  where Apple's going with the apple TV

  though is that it's going to be apps and

  that the apps are like channels and that

  you are you gonna get some kind of

  customization yeah but they I mean even

  I don't mind all of those because most

  of the stuff i want is you know apart

  from podcast is is up near the top i can

  get the netflix in a couple clicks I

  still got a lot of beef with the

  interface for some reason the remote app

  on my phone isn't working anymore i

  don't know why i run up against the Home

  Sharing thing constantly having to

  re-enter all my stuff everywhere I don't

  know I guess I'm hitting my limit or

  something but it's the apple TV thing is

  really kind of transformative what like

  I think like I think by far away the

  worst Apple experience you can possibly

  have right now today is entering a

  halfway decent password just don't even

  say the words I do I was the Apple TV

  right out the jobs had lived long enough

  that I could watch him try to enter like

  a medium security password with the

  white dingus

  or you can select or deselect over and

  over email just entering a horrible

  password your your your first child's

  first name as your password all lower it

  has a capital letter right track it and

  i totally agree with you it's totally

  crazy now and the thing is you know

  security siracusa didn't realize that

  the remote app existed so he has a Greek

  you can you imagine I I know it's crazy

  she was really good he um he had he had

  to go through that it can you imagine

  that poor guy is comfortable as he is

  with a four-way dingus

  yeah like but the other thing with that

  is that one thing that's an escape got

  just the thing though it's inescapable

  so you can have to everybody has to

  experience this one's even if you know

  about the remote app is that you can't

  use the remote app until you've got the

  thing on your Wi-Fi and so unless you

  have no password Wi-Fi you've got to at

  least enter one password which is your

  Wi-Fi network using the remote everybody

  gets to do it at least once

  John this is this is three shows but

  this is all this is such a whole I think

  we've had this discussion by out in 10

  seconds or seven minutes here's the

  problem is it's still thursday i think

  so you get you by your iOS device you

  get your phone what do you flip it on

  you guys start an account so what do you

  do you say you know monkey but 35 @ and pencil 69 my password

  whatever right because you're sitting

  there on your phone you mistyped a

  couple times right and you go okay i

  should pick something simpler

  so you pick pencil 69 right Oh that'll

  be secure it's got it just like that

  just like the guy with the paper told me

  now I've got a mix of numbers and

  letters so i'm good i got a thousand

  your password pencil 69 right and you

  know that you know the Cascade here

  oh I love it so i buy a mac so i turn on

  back to my mac with pencil 69 is the

  password i use pencil 69 because it's

  real pain in the butt to enter the

  internet on my appletv so now you've got

  like five problems

  first of all you have like a 20 second

  password second of all you got the same

  one on all of your devices because who

  do you know your family has different

  passwords for different things right

  my my I had a family member who got I

  told you this guy I'm Ali like that I

  got hacked

  you know I got half expect really but

  how'd you get hacked i got hacked on


  oh oh my god you're one of those like

  200 people that what happens and i got


  how'd you hack well I think

  I think what was your password i was the

  same as my name and I you know the thing

  is I'm I don't make this a thing but i'm

  telling you this is gonna be there's

  gonna be there's gonna be a security 911

  about this someday and you know and it's

  going to be because people had to go in

  or this ridiculously childlike password

  and I'm telling you I don't have any

  numbers on this John but I will bet she

  times to doughnuts that most people keep

  the first password that they put in

  whatever device they started on for as

  long as they can and they will use it

  for as many different devices and

  accounts as they can and they pick one

  day they don't go and then we'll go to

  password generators or try to test these

  things it takes you seen me you've seen

  how long it takes me to do my media com

  password there was a there was a session

  at WWDC on security and they had a Q&A

  afterwards which is rare anymore WWDC

  like people have ruined the Q&A with bad

  questions so that they used to be almost

  every session at Q&A and now very few do

  but they were Q&A after the security

  session and there's a is credibly astute

  question which was it was off topic for

  the thing but it was like Apple security

  guys where the guys doing the session

  and they were like what if you guys been

  what you guys working on to just

  completely eliminate the broken password

  paradigm and it was like three seconds

  of silence and the guy just said no


  r or no didn't say no testing which is

  really doesn't filter i take it back he

  said we have nothing to say about that

  at this point which is looking around so

  that's easier that's either that's

  either silly are saying too much or it

  could be anything could be nothing could

  be should immediately said what we're

  always working on right well i do but i

  do think that it's something that

  they're working good

  and did you say there's some dude now is

  there somebody who's like

  single-mindedly like some famous guys on

  this at Google

  I'll bet there is I don't say that

  somebody there knows this Apple somebody

  somebody kinda like I need to get a

  brain somebody's talking about how like

  there's a dedicated person you're

  dealing with the identity problem in

  general I thought that was used i don't

  think so huh also cover that to go back

  five minutes that was Peter right at ARS

  technica who wrote about trying to buy a

  pc laptop

  it was a very very it was it you know

  just telling that story straight would

  have been funny but the way he did what

  I thought was very very fine

  he went to del to buy a laptop and the

  categories he had to start with we had

  to choose between everyday computing you

  know it's so funny I was just thinking

  this morning design and design everyday

  computer user I'm just finally realizing

  that everyday computing design and

  performance and the other one was then

  and powerful so which one do you want

  function of the couch it right up

  so the better ones lanova the lenovo had

  three categories to choose from this is


  powered for productivity optimized for

  entertainment and no-nonsense features

  built for versatility

  no not since say that again no no

  nonsense features built for versatility

  ok I don't that's a good category you



  I guess that means poor yeah but what

  sort of differencing optimized for

  entertainment and powered for

  productivity which one's the good image

  porn or video porn i don't know i had

  that's another thing is John I mean

  they're getting more important point

  which is that you really should be

  optimized i have although they should

  take every goddamn whiteboard out of

  that place in break in half

  I have always that sets a shame i have

  often said that the best thing about

  being a mac person is when you buy a new

  computer it's actually not that hard

  yeah really i think i would go nuts if I

  had to buy windows pc i totally agree i

  totally agree

  hey so what do you think you can't buy

  HD movies a lot of times

  Wow and on iTunes I guess because they

  think they why can you only rent it you

  think that's a that's a label or a yeah

  they date they don't trust rating yeah

  that's the worst i think i think ratings

  for suckers I mean if they let you rent

  it out here so here's if you were me and

  I could negotiate here's what i would

  say you ran a movie and if you you get

  to start it and finish it once in the

  next 30 days right that would be if it

  were me that's what i would say you're

  saying you gotta see you get you can

  have settings of this movie maybe you

  can even rewind five minutes a couple

  times something something but you know

  what i mean my problem is that

  expiration within a short period of time

  I wouldn't I have a four-year-old

  daughter i will never watch that movie

  that way even in a hotel room you can

  make a positive like watching on the

  other te looking for in a suite or

  something like that right but not that I

  I that drives me a little bit crazy like

  it somebody somewhere thinks that I

  don't know if they think it's going to

  be pirated but it but it can't really be

  piracy because then why would they let

  you read it

  anybody was the point I mean then right

  again your back to the whole like we're

  not making business and so we're like

  anyway I think that's super weird i'm

  going to it's so not the other day you

  know we're trying to be good about like

  setting limits on things you know just

  any limit as long as there's a limit

  right that's the thing right with the

  kids stuff it doesn't matter like you

  know a lot of people focus on like what

  the limit is I think it's just important

  to have a limit and then enforce it so

  we're going to movie night we schedule

  movie night tonight is moving it but you

  go and hit the thing and like in a

  second Wally is streaming and it's

  prettier than you

  the internet that that is really amazing

  to me that still blows me away every

  time and so ustream you don't storm

  no I used to but now I don't need to as

  you know and I have some blurays because

  some of the movies i truly truly that's

  horrible i buy the blu-ray but it you

  know what as time goes on and get more

  used to apple TV even if i'm really in

  the mood to watch one of my very

  favorite movies that I've bought on

  blu-ray the the idea of getting standing

  up and getting a disk and I mean it's

  all involves about four steps combined

  to get up get the disc change the hdmi

  cable and Allah but it all seems so

  daunting when I could just watch you


  21 Jump Street movie on itunes in 10

  seconds I I really I i hate to admit

  this because I i'm really not the kind

  of person that blows money I blow money

  on some stupid things like alcohol but

  like I don't just go by like electronics

  for like I'm just not the kind of person

  but I was finally ok look clearly you

  know the winter has been chosen it's

  bluray and so I went and I got I got

  like the the total middle-of-the-road

  this is not that expensive whatever 203

  and whatever alpha amazonas got the

  blu-ray and I swear to you on my hand to

  God I have owned more DVD players then i

  have used the blu-ray player i bought

  the blu-ray player and I've got exactly

  one thing which is the godfather trilogy

  and I watched two of them and everyone

  should own it just for the documentary

  that we talked about this but seriously

  it's in the closet with the old tivo now

  it's just like it was in it because in

  our case we have this traffic TV we

  don't have a great media setup and we

  would have to like change the hdmi cable

  and all that I guess the hdmi is like

  where it's going now

  I mean that's going to become the that

  USB of stuff i guess i don't know if you

  guys we gotta go right we have a great

  show resident crazy that I mean it shows

  not okay here's what i do i tell you i'd

  give you a similar example and I know

  it's one of your current obsessions is

  that you're you're you and Ellie I

  believer in the fantastic mr fox picked

  which is not one of my favorite movies

  of the last few years and it's one of

  those movies that it really does I've

  watched it so many times and I keep

  liking it more

  more i remember when i saw it the first

  time and that i thought i'm almost

  certain the boy went to see that one in

  the theater because I thought I can't

  miss a chance to take my kids to see Wes

  Anderson movie I mean he's never you

  know when the next thing that's going to

  happen we thought we thought about rush

  but it's got handjobs tekli and and I

  remember when I watch it I wasn't really

  sure I like the movie at one point and

  then it kind of got to the end and in

  the very end the final scene in the

  supermarket she's to all of a sudden I

  realized my god i just hit me all my god

  I love this movie love it and how great

  is that song at the end which is all the

  Bobby 44 yeah you know what you would

  love John Gruber you would love you

  would love to hear two things first my

  daughter demanding that i play street

  fighting man on repeat all that's that

  is I know it's not rocks off its pretty

  good and then it's right as soon as it

  comes on she goes oh yeah so awesome you

  can see my son was a hundred percent the

  same i watched the first 20 minutes of

  it whenever it came out and I could

  watch it somewhere and when this is cute

  you've got to watch that movie all the

  way through once and then watch it again

  right and like every time you look at

  one of those faces straight on looking

  at the camera it's the most the late and

  then ashes ear twitching like spinning

  it's a total delight but it's such

  genius filmmaking too because if you

  listen to the lyrics of the song it's a

  guy who's lost his girl right but yeah

  they're great at that

  it's a guy who lost his girl but in the

  movie its triumphant it strengthened and

  it it makes you it makes you feel happy

  even though the lowest did you buy it on

  the we know what we did here's the thing

  here's Mary is what made me think about

  it and this is a perfect way to end the

  show is that we bought the blu-ray and

  it's i think i think it was one of those

  1 i'm almost certain i think it's one of

  those ones where you buy the blu-ray and

  it comes with the DVD and a digital

  download from itunes but that isn't its

  SD you know it's not HD HD extra

  features are totally changed but but

  rather than get the blu-ray out and go

  through it i'll just hit play on apple

  TV and play a lesser version maybe

  there's HD I don't know but it still

  doesn't look as good as the blu-ray and

  even though I'm the type of guy really

  cares about how stuff looks and i bought

  the blu-ray because i really want to see

  like the actual hairs on

  and that characters twitch and stuff

  like that it's so much more convenient

  to just fired up on on itunes and stream

  it is ridiculous we've talked about this

  before I think you know your wife's

  underwear so Weezer fan I can't tell you

  how many copies of weezer i bought

  because I didn't want to go in the other

  room get the CD the blue record it's

  it's it's asinine and like once you get

  that Apple has apple has me bent over

  something like that their eyes I've got

  a lot of albums i've got a lot of albums

  that i just did the torpedoes i think

  that's it another right I just don't

  want to risk because that I think to

  even I have to find the disk and then i

  gotta wait for it to rip and it takes me

  10 minutes to reboot CD or words that's

  true whether using handbrake i

  discovered this one called I flicks it's

  pretty great if he's I flicks no okay

  you should check it out but now i

  totally agree with you and they I mean

  like I can't believe in a million years

  that I ever got that comfortable you run

  that app that shows how much you spent

  on apps

  no I don't do it no don't do it don't do

  it yeah why would I writing my paper

  receipts 1010 you can ask you a question

  yeah you really use dashes instead of

  asterisks 44 you else i do well you know

  what I my very own that ok i know you

  can use both right

  yeah most of them are going to email i

  said yeah it did I didn't look at it

  right now okay alright just check it out

  sometime some stuff like some of Brett

  tips of stuff does better with asterisks

  like the do you have to use would use

  his mark on services

  I don't think so oh god I should teach

  you about markdown it's really cool and

  I right by Wright markdown like a


  that's a shame on you i think i do i'm

  pretty sure i write like a caveman chami

  i'm talking about markdown stuff but you

  know what i use the dashes I think

  because I I'd I so pretty early looks

  right here

  I so overly associate the asterisks with

  italicized as Talas ation yeah right i

  still disagree i still disagree with the

  design decision about astros vs.

  underscores but that's because I wasn't

  well you know I still have a preference

  I still if i can i will go in and edit

  something so that while i wait before I

  even knew you I wrote to you about this

  and you sent me a taciturn response as

  you do but I'd said like textile I think

  asterisks I think it's textile I think

  asterisks should be

  bold and underscore should be Italian oh

  but no no of course I changed my life

  around your goddamn thing you don't

  maintain anymore but right now i'm ok

  with that because now it's muscle memory

  you should make this better for guys

  that he's doing amazing stuff with your

  stuff i do maintain it i maintain it by

  not screwing around with it

  that's smart yeah you know everybody

  tells me that I need to do more with

  Mark different Jon you're at a time

  where we ended for change every week

  there's more and more people using this

  thing i don't like is that proves it

  right now it doesn't it I don't know I

  just feel like with ours dicking around

  with the syntax all the time i would

  Cano not know different showcase all

  right i'll try that but you know he has

  stuff like you select these lines suck

  lines and hit command shift eight

  interns at all into UL a hit command

  ship one interns mode LOL thats not done

  as fast as hell

  it's fast as hell yeah I could see that

  i'm looking at i'm looking at

  impermanent alright well yeah I think

  okay right before we sign off when we

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  Merlin thank you thank you for doing

  this i think the whole thing came off

  pretty well I'm very friendly for two

  guys who the last time I saw you in

  person you were doing a photoshoot in

  the house of shields bathroom with my


  yeah that's not good yeah yeah the thing

  is I i want to get accessible i was

  charging ten bucks at first for them and

  then I realized that 99 cents i could

  actually get more out of his countenance

  the paper model for photos of your wife

  i don't think i said i send you all of

  them my gosh you guys got all of them

  but i don't know i think i had some

  photos and they look like along the way

  she looks like she's trying she realizes

  someone's taking a picture of the urinal

  little photo bombing and she wants to

  just get make sure she's in the picture

  is that was so funny

  it looks like some we should send the

  american apparel haha ah