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H.I. #16: The Worst Topic for a Podcast


  But now if you cut it you can put in the extra bits on the on the cheap. Don't don't. [TS]

  Not making any promises about that. This could this could be cut and then that's the ultimate humiliation. [TS]

  It's like devil cat. [TS]

  It's always funny like we talked before the show and like I'm looking at you on the camera and it's like normal [TS]

  and then when we go into this blind mode and you're just a voice it's like you're a different person. [TS]

  Do you do you feel that it's a strange transition I think from oh we're just chatting about what we were just talking [TS]

  about your very handsome office a moment ago but now suddenly it feels like there are people here [TS]

  and of course the Internet is now here with That's it that's what it is it feels like [TS]

  when we go into a star it feels like there are more people all of a sudden that's what that feeling is yes. [TS]

  So it is it is different. [TS]

  Suddenly even though our physical surroundings have changed basically not at all except that I can no longer see you [TS]

  and you can no longer see me. Interesting that's interesting. [TS]

  Anyway enough of this crisis follow I have something I'm going to call feedback on feedback on feedback with wow here [TS]

  is on our You Tube channel which is ten episodes behind our audio version. [TS]

  I recently just put up the feedback on feedback episode so it's interesting to have this bit of a time delay for the [TS]

  You Tube people versus the audio people [TS]

  and it's like Inception every time we talk about people commenting on videos that are commenting on bits of it yes it [TS]

  does and then try and trying to keep in mind that this is then going to be our conversation is going to pass through. [TS]

  So are we talking to the people in the future [TS]

  or it's always very strange in that episode that is the episode where we talk about people who is the person who leaves [TS]

  a three star review that you only get five star reviews or three star reviews five star reviews or one star reviews [TS]

  but you don't get very many three star reviews and you get the people who hate people who do. [TS]

  Things in the paper we hate things and you don't get that many people. [TS]

  Yes And so but I can't help [TS]

  but notice that since we put that up on You Tube That's the episode in which we're talking about reviews. [TS]

  I noticed we got another spike of reviews on i Tunes for the pod cast and I do go through [TS]

  and I read all of those I have a little program that actually aggregates the reviews from all over the world so I can [TS]

  see what you know what reviews people have left about the show because I'm very interested. [TS]

  I feel the need to officially tell people you don't need to leave a three star review just so that I will read it [TS]

  but we had a big spike in people leaving three star reviews saying whoa i totally love the show [TS]

  but Grace had that nobody leaves so he star reviews. So here's my three star review. Love the show. [TS]

  It's like it's like [TS]

  when you get I mean you probably don't get to say much because your videos get watched very quickly [TS]

  but on some of my slower channels you will get a point where you have a video that's been out for a while [TS]

  and it's only got sums up everyone's lot and it's had zero dislikes [TS]

  and as soon as someone points that out in the comments and says oh wow isn't it great is [TS]

  when he has never had a single dislike you dislike within half a second. Yes because someone just wants to. [TS]

  Yes that's a moment to break break something beautiful. [TS]

  Yes that's exactly [TS]

  and you should you should tell you should tell people that you will only read the five star reviews with this [TS]

  aggregator of yours. [TS]

  So if people want to have that comment read by you personally in touch they have to lay the first no I will I will be [TS]

  honest about that. I do read all the reviews so just say if you actually like this show. [TS]

  Leaving a three star review is not the most helpful thing that you can do I promise I will read a bit of your view [TS]

  anyway so I don't you know I got my videos I don't like to say the end of the videos like that everyone does on You [TS]

  Tube Oh don't forget to like the video [TS]

  but since we've had people go out of their way to give us review lower than they normally would. [TS]

  I'm going to take this opportunity to. Just ask if you enjoy the show. [TS]

  Would you please leave a review that is actually reflective of the star that you think the show should get I would I [TS]

  would appreciate that. So this is my call. Second call for reviews and just to put that out there. I read them all. [TS]

  It's not like my emails where I delete things instantly. [TS]

  I'm very interested to hear what people have to say about the show in the reviews. [TS]

  If it makes you feel bad my mom reads the reviews as well so she doesn't like to see people give me ramen you shouldn't [TS]

  OK [TS]

  and I don't think that you think they are trying to get people into it I think they try to be fair I think a ten year three [TS]

  star show anyway. But there's another side to the compilation. [TS]

  Well I think I'm trying to but how to answer that which is. [TS]

  So as we have said many times this is this is the two dude talking genre [TS]

  and I always feel with these things that in the grand scheme of pod cast that are available for people to listen to. [TS]

  Yes I think this show maybe a three star show [TS]

  when you're talking about comparison to something like Radio Lab For example you know a five star pod cast no no doubt [TS]

  about it. [TS]

  But it's again it's always with this kind of show it's about the reaction for the person listening to the people [TS]

  talking and so for some people they're really going to like it and for some people they're really going to not like it. [TS]

  My sigh was because I can both kind of agree with you but I look about it in a slightly different way. [TS]

  You took that way more seriously than you were supposed to it was just like a glib comment you know I really very fair. [TS]

  I actually I actually listen to the podcast with you but I feel like I've been in [TS]

  and sometimes from going for a walk [TS]

  and I've listened to all the ones I want to listen to go check on one of those on hello internets [TS]

  and have a reminisce of the action we had a few times so I just I just like the. [TS]

  The reminiscing there because we have that long [TS]

  but how do you find listening to the show because I mean I have I usually end up listening to it about three times [TS]

  probably before it goes up [TS]

  but that's because I'm I'm editing it so yeah I mean how is it taking a little taking a little walk like how he enjoyed [TS]

  listening to the show. [TS]

  I always like the most recent one and think that one's aura and the outer ones I don't like [TS]

  and I'm like that with my videos. [TS]

  If I watch I can watch my old videos which I still enjoy the most recent video I think it's pretty good. [TS]

  People icons and yeah nobody can nobody can watch their [TS]

  or their old stuff so is terribly contorting I do want to mention just before I forget one one more thing about the the [TS]

  feedback on feedback on feedback which is yeah I haven't done in a while is mention new countries where we have reviews [TS]

  and when I guess and that's of course because it's like as time goes on it's harder and harder to get new countries. [TS]

  You're playing Magic the Gathering and you know that sounds like something that you value. [TS]

  Yes it's a it's a card game you have to like buy decks of cards but some of the cards are really rare [TS]

  and so if you are in a country that we haven't received a review from Yet you are basically like one of the rare Magic [TS]

  the Gathering cards that's or that's a look out here. It's like a sports guy the sports car. [TS]

  So that when I'm with you I do they vary the frequency of those get sometimes you get special cards [TS]

  and they'll be a lot of these premium ones that are on this shiny foil sort of material [TS]

  and they're not rare ones to get lucky. [TS]

  It's like a golden ticket and while he won't be wiping your pack [TS]

  and there's one of these you know whether the players [TS]

  or printed on not just different code material I did know that this is the same idea. [TS]

  So we have three that I just wanted to mention quickly I have not been to any of these places [TS]

  but they are Costa Rica Cyprus and Ecuador are our new three. [TS]

  Since the last time I mentioned this a little while ago so thank you very much to the reviewers in those countries who [TS]

  have added to our list of places that we have reviews from so thank you very much. [TS]

  You know Costa Rica's been awesome in the World Cup That's one of the moment I do not know that they were what they [TS]

  were like overachievers who actually maybe they weren't overachievers I was awesome. [TS]

  I LIKE THEY WON THE GREAT with England and Italy and all that and thank you. [TS]

  They're out now but they did really well no one. Congratulations Costa Rica. [TS]

  Yeah talk to me that kindles you had you had yet you had to be ever vigilant rant about candles in the last episode if [TS]

  you've gotten over that. [TS]

  No Well no I haven't gotten over it because I have to face the horrors that I discussed last time every day [TS]

  when I read a book so no I haven't gotten over it. [TS]

  You sure can do every day I make a real attempt to try and read something long form every day [TS]

  and I usually do that on like on the Kindle. [TS]

  I'm not always successful [TS]

  but I do I do try to carve out time to say OK I'm going I am going to read some section of a book now [TS]

  and I find the Kindle is the best for that. [TS]

  Aside from all the pairing the day to day this soul of a like your bed time thing. [TS]

  When do you normally find this reading time around lunchtime is [TS]

  when I'll do it like OK it's lunch now I'm going to try to carve out at least twenty minutes where I'm just going to [TS]

  sit here and I'm going to read you know section of a of a non-fiction book that I'm working my way through so. [TS]

  Discipline with your time. [TS]

  Well I mean this is this is the ideal version of it I don't do it every day [TS]

  but I would say I do it most days of the week and I'm not going to be curious to know my hit rate is on this boat. [TS]

  More days than not I do it is what I would say so anyway don't you read regularly. [TS]

  Well it's usually like bedtime Sometimes I'll dislike it if I've got time I was going to write a chapter of a book. [TS]

  Or if I go on holidays or trips and planes and things like that I certainly don't have like. [TS]

  A regime or carve out time for it's just kind of does not last is too busy [TS]

  or I have a little checklist with my daily checklist [TS]

  and read for twenty minutes is one of the items on there so I am happy when I can successfully check that check box. [TS]

  That's how I do it [TS]

  but you don't have to check that check box you realize you could just say I'm not going to do that today [TS]

  and I'm going to do this instead of doing this for a longer oh oh no don't don't make a C. [TS]

  Don't make what makes what makes you obey the checklist because I wake up every morning thinking of all the things I [TS]

  want to do and I'm going to go to the gym and I'm going to do this and I'm going to pay those bills [TS]

  and I'm going to sew everything at and then the end of the day comes [TS]

  and it's like well actually I didn't do any of that because I got sidetracked. What makes you go by yourself. [TS]

  This could be a whole topic on its own but nothing makes me obey the checklist. [TS]

  It's I have one particular checklist that I use which is the kind of ideal checklist that on an ideal day checklist I [TS]

  should say which is that a name has it got like a name saved and I called the work flow checklist [TS]

  but it's basically flat. In a perfect day I would hit all of the items on this list. [TS]

  So there's time that blocked out for different kinds of activities one of which happens to be the reading some of it [TS]

  which happens to be working on the next video there's a few other things [TS]

  but there is not maybe ten items on this which is the perfect day is hitting all of these items. [TS]

  How if there's any potential you can reel off the list for us now are not going to knock out its secret [TS]

  but are really out there like a legal activity. Rob a bank. [TS]

  Yet there is nothing that forces me but it's it's an it's a nice way to keep track of how did I do [TS]

  and then I can be a little bit reflective at the end of the day which I can look at the checklist [TS]

  and say like well today was a day that didn't go very well [TS]

  or you know look at that almost everything is checked off on this list like this is a very good day. [TS]

  The reading is on there because it's not important on any particular day but it's something that. [TS]

  Matters over the long run whether or not you read every day matters over a long time scale. [TS]

  So it's something I've tried to not skip. [TS]

  And there's a few other items that are kind of like that stuff that it's not important today [TS]

  but it does matter over the longer term so I want to throw down a challenge to everyone he comments on Reddit on the [TS]

  podcasts to list the ten times I think around a great checklist and [TS]

  when we eventually get access to that list in a future pod cast Lucy how I pay for work and be serious about it. [TS]

  Put silly things or read things. Yeah tell me internet out of this silly that's that's going to work. [TS]

  Yeah that's like ten of them. Freestyle reviews don't hurt my mother's feelings by leaving him in review. [TS]

  I'm back to they can go there. Oh yes that's what we're talking about right. [TS]

  People were sending me all of this information I wanted to know why. Why Kendall do you do this horrific thing. [TS]

  A fully justifying the text and making every day a little bit fatter for me [TS]

  and people sent me all of these answers saying how it's baked into the format of Kindle books that the books are [TS]

  specified that they're going to be fully justified as it is so I got some answers from people trying to speculate about [TS]

  stuff [TS]

  but then I found out which is just made me even sadder about this whole situation which I did not think was possible [TS]

  that on the older model Kindles which maybe you have because as we found out last time you've no idea what Kindle you [TS]

  even have a similar photo with my can do. You did not I never got a photo of your Kindle. [TS]

  I said You even did I have to but I don't remember you commented that I had because it was on charge [TS]

  and you said you've never seen the uncharged SANDOVAL Oh I forgot about this yesterday but I think that's right. [TS]

  OK I should know what kind it is but you at least have a photo of it. You should know. I guess I do. [TS]

  That hasn't got a cable or a button. You did send me that thing. I just put that out of my mind. [TS]

  Oh OK so you have the same Kindle that I do you have OK for white. Yeah that's what you have Brady. Now you know. [TS]

  Thank you. [TS]

  Yes So what I discovered that made me even more sad is that on the older model of Kindles there is a secret option that [TS]

  people can enable which will left justify the text. [TS]

  Here's why this is infuriating to me because this immediately invalidates all of the arguments that other people have [TS]

  have sent me about like oh it's a formatting problem. [TS]

  Like there's some sort of technical reason there obviously isn't if there's a secret option on the older Kindles to be [TS]

  able to left align the text it is technically possible which which means I am being pushed into the belief. [TS]

  That Amazon is just either irrational [TS]

  or vindictive with its choice to force fully fully justified text on the Kindle page there's a if it's technically [TS]

  possible if you used to let people do it if people who still have old Kindles can left justified the text then you're [TS]

  just being mean by taking this option away on the newer Kindles. [TS]

  There must be a reason that My Space I want to believe that there is a reason I really do. [TS]

  But now it's now it's just I don't I don't know what to think anymore. [TS]

  Again if if anybody listening to the sound of my workplace works at Amazon it's OK you can send me an anonymous email. [TS]

  I won't tell anyone I just need to know review that is what that that is what I want to review [TS]

  or if you're on the software team and Kindle. [TS]

  Just you know slip slip in a hidden option for the paper white [TS]

  and then no one will know you just put to get that passed through on the code review for the next the next iteration. [TS]

  And you know make everybody happy but would be awesome if the way you accessed it was you had to type like C.G. [TS]

  Pay on some screen and be the best that would be the one that would because I'd be really excited about that [TS]

  and I could more pleasantly read books every day [TS]

  and so could everybody else just left just a part of the text Amazon anyway. [TS]

  Anyway I don't get started but that's that was my feedback. [TS]

  I am even sadder after learning more about the situation which I did not think was possible. [TS]

  So you know that's that I would like to thank everybody who has been tweeting [TS]

  and e-mailing me over all the times they say in the word humbled being used in various books and articles [TS]

  and it's become it's become quite fun it's become kind of like a Where's Wally wake. [TS]

  Where can you find them and send them in. [TS]

  Much appreciated and entertained [TS]

  and also as we record this it's the night after Brazil were dumped out of their own soccer World Cup. [TS]

  In traumatic circumstances for them they were beaten seven one by Germany which is an unprecedented result especially [TS]

  for a team like that and lots of people trying to meet you in the game [TS]

  and said Now surely this is an example of a team or US sports people being humbled [TS]

  and indeed it was very traumatic for the people of Brazil with my condolences but I know it's only sport in Brazil. [TS]

  It transcends sport. [TS]

  Well losing losing a semifinal of the World Cup in your own country after all that they would up in such a spectacular [TS]

  fashion. I feel their pain. And I don't I don't follow this very closely either but I can tell. [TS]

  I sympathize with that feeling of you. Everybody wants the hosting country to win. [TS]

  That's how it should work [TS]

  or at the very least make it to the final round so I can definitely understand that it is very crushing. [TS]

  How do you feel the same way with the Olympics whoever's hosting the Olympics it feels like I really hope they get the [TS]

  most gold medals. And why do I feel that way when I mean you don't feel that way. [TS]

  I feel the opposite I don't always think it's unfair. [TS]

  I always think if you win a major major thing in your own country you've done it with the assistance of an advantage [TS]

  and I think that slightly detracts from the glory of the win. [TS]

  Controversial And I I don't know I mean it just seems too much of a coincidence that the host country suddenly wins [TS]

  more often. [TS]

  Obviously they're they've got an advantage there is I spent all my life training to be the world's best at something [TS]

  and then I went to the Olympics [TS]

  and I got picked by someone from the home country who obviously got that extra bit of support from the craft. [TS]

  I'd be devastated if they won because of you know I know they didn't take drugs [TS]

  but they got an advantage that I didn't get home home ground advantage. [TS]

  So what you're saying is that the Olympics or the World Cup should be held in a country that is not participating. [TS]

  No I'm not I'm not saying that [TS]

  and it's just I think that's what's hard it's just it's just part of the base that someone is going to have that [TS]

  advantage but I think this feeling that everyone wants their home country to win. I don't think that's fair. [TS]

  I think it's like I mean all the more glory to someone who can who can win against the home country on their home turf [TS]

  like it's good for the tournament [TS]

  and it's good that Brazil got as far as they did because the more the people of the country are interested in the [TS]

  tournament the better the tournament is and the crowds are more active there's more. [TS]

  There's more buzz around the house thing. [TS]

  I'm glad Brazil did well and Brazil and just between you [TS]

  and may perceive a pretty handy soccer so you know they win their share of World Cups anyway [TS]

  but I think this home advantage thing I've always felt this you know I think there's more glory in winning something on [TS]

  foreign soil there's more glory for the winning team [TS]

  but I still feel like I would I would have wanted Brazil to win even though I'm not invested in this that I would like [TS]

  wherever it is it is hosted. [TS]

  I feel like if I was the architect of the universe I would want them to win but that seems that seems better. [TS]

  I feel a bit like well the best team didn't win but you know the best team didn't get to win I guess. [TS]

  Stowe stole what was rightfully theirs as they had an advantage. [TS]

  I'm realizing what I of course I grew that I'm realizing what I'm what I'm actually saying [TS]

  but not what I'm actually thinking [TS]

  but not saying is that I want whoever is hosting the game to happen to also have the best team that year. [TS]

  That's what I want thing on my app. Fair enough. [TS]

  This is fairly unreasonable request [TS]

  but that's what I want to I'm not going to sweat a Strat to host a big event I want to strive to win everything it's [TS]

  not like I you know I'm as biased as the next man. Yeah. [TS]

  Anyway I don't know what to think about what I just said but I'm sure I'll be told. [TS]

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  but what I do you have is drum roll please the triumphant return of plane crash corner is that not one not like you have [TS]

  just made so many people happy New Year's Eve You gave me enough incentive there with that Romero and you. [TS]

  Find enough enthusiasm for me to talk about plans for a minute. [TS]

  I'm really interested I want to hear where your mum does [TS]

  when he's not reading reviews I know she enjoys playing Christian does she does. [TS]

  There are two things I was going to mention. [TS]

  One is despite my sort of interest in aviation I've never really followed aviation Twitter streams [TS]

  and things very closely. But I've recently started following a couple. [TS]

  I kind of remember they they sort of aviation gate so you know obviously sit at their computer [TS]

  and watch the live trackers of every plane in the world doing what they're doing. I really enjoy it. [TS]

  You get lots of great pictures and information about things happening in the world of aviation but and there is a [TS]

  but they do make flying. Suddenly same Much much unsafer than I previously thought because one of the. [TS]

  But I think it's the sort of False Alarm sort of thing I've learned is every time any plane decides it's got a problem [TS]

  and wants to divert or land or skip the queue or go somewhere else. [TS]

  This becomes huge breaking news for these traits of AIDS you know Flight seven four three has declared an emergency [TS]

  and is now heading to Paris and they've got these regular updates and you can click on links and follow it [TS]

  and you suddenly thinking oh my goodness a crush is going to happen this is amazing luck on another [TS]

  and then every single time the plane lands and it turns out someone stopped their time [TS]

  or you know I always always look in on board medical emergency or something it could be anything [TS]

  but every time you think something amazing is happening [TS]

  and maybe just some minor technical thing it would seem a little blank and jump the queue [TS]

  but it has you know you know I'm always the first person to side flying is very safe. [TS]

  Following these Twitter streams does change your outlook on that and actually changes it falsely. [TS]

  Flying is to say that this sort of. So that's something that's something I'll send you some. [TS]

  The two streams and you can follow them. [TS]

  Please don't please don't send me this internet [TS]

  and adding daily anxiety to my Twitter stream my trip is to can see nothing but problems. [TS]

  That's like signing up to a police blotter is all around the world. Twitter stream. [TS]

  I know what I would love I would love to be informed of every murder. [TS]

  Please let me know about every murder that happens in the world. [TS]

  If I want to know every day you would never want to go outside of that stream. [TS]

  So we have these little the little local and use that as a newspapers where I live. [TS]

  Pop through your letter box and now have like a little crime Kona [TS]

  and every single thing that happens in there in the town like you know Betty Jones had her pop pop pop stolen from [TS]

  house number three. Like makes it into the publication. Suddenly like Glee everything's like everyone's a plant. [TS]

  So anyway we better take it easy than tonight. Yeah exactly. So you're following him. [TS]

  You can you can follow things too closely. Yes definitely. [TS]

  But there was a video posted just recently I don't know if you say it certainly everyone has sent it to me. [TS]

  And well they sent it to more than me because being watched sixteen million times [TS]

  and I can assure you I'm responsible for only about five of them [TS]

  but it was a plane a seven six seven plane coming in to land recently at the airport at Barcelona [TS]

  and as it came in to land another seven six seven was sort of crucial ing along on the ground [TS]

  and crossed the runway as it was going about its business [TS]

  and the two it looks like the two it would have would have hit on this plan that was coming into land sort of at the [TS]

  last minute fires up the engines to maximum you can hear the engine screaming and [TS]

  and pulls up at the very last minute and flies over the top of this plane slowly crawling across its runway. [TS]

  It's worth a watch you know it's really interesting to say you know if you get to say these things. [TS]

  So I'm sure you put them in can in the not so small plane crash in the near plane crash it's the you you tell me that [TS]

  so I was just so I was trying to pull it if you're watching [TS]

  and you tear seven six thousand three hundred near there is a question mark. [TS]

  Surely they know the person who posted this [TS]

  or you decided I mean here I mean it's not us you know that they're not like you know rubbing paint off each other [TS]

  but you could see what could be what could have happened. Are you watching it. [TS]

  I just pulled up now have a little watch OK I know I know I complained about the question mark in this [TS]

  but now I can see why there is a question mark in this video. [TS]

  One question I feel like it's not that it's not close enough. It's actually just that. [TS]

  The angle makes it difficult to appreciate the closeness. [TS]

  But you know with that you can definitely say looking at this video that they would have collided had the plane not [TS]

  pulled up at the last moment and it has sixteen million views as of as of this moment. Take it to the bank. [TS]

  Yeah [TS]

  but the thing is the thing to remember with those big planes today is like once it's like the Titanic you know it's one [TS]

  thing to say the iceberg in front of that evening going to do a few things and these things aren't as responsive [TS]

  and nimble as a bicycle. So yeah I ne Miskin doesn't necessarily look like an image. [TS]

  Yes cool video and such so I will put it put it in the description [TS]

  and still no news on that Malaysia plane who knows when we'll ever get to use. [TS]

  I was talking to a mate of mine who is a pilot the other day about it [TS]

  and you know I won't bore you with just more speculation. [TS]

  But one interesting thing he said to me was all those things that got switched off on the plane all those that that the [TS]

  tracking devices. That were manually switched off my mind. [TS]

  He flies commercial airliners said he wouldn't even know how to switch those things off if he was asked to do so it's [TS]

  not like it's not like someone has you know pressed the wrong button [TS]

  or something like that someone for someone to switch those things off is a pretty strong chance they have planned well [TS]

  in advance to switch it off. [TS]

  They were getting into conspiracy theory territory here is that you know you're the expert the expert not the expert. [TS]

  I'm to some numpty that follows on Twitter and and what is a question investigation T.V. [TS]

  Shows of the two US You are the expert that is true to us. Right so there you go if you're on a plane at the moment. [TS]

  Enjoy your flight. [TS]

  I see him on Twitter people requesting plane crash corner because they are going to the airport [TS]

  or because they have a flight I don't have hundreds Dechen says I'm I'm glad that people like it I'm glad the people it [TS]

  makes people happy. But I've I find that very strange. I don't I don't understand that mindset of yeah. [TS]

  Anyway I hope it made those people happy and spread a few nine eleven books on planes [TS]

  and their pictures on the cover of the of the towers being struck by planes [TS]

  and I always feel a bit weird doing them planes and sort of make sure I obscure the cover [TS]

  and things like that because it has to be that way things like bad form [TS]

  but you also told me you watched as the plane crash shows on the airplane to now I don't I don't do that because I [TS]

  don't I usually watch what's available on the plane [TS]

  and as yet most airlines have not started showing air crash investigation as part of the in-flight entertainment. [TS]

  If they had I probably would. Yeah that's exactly it. [TS]

  I just I'd love that if we ever fly somewhere together I don't want to sit next to you if you're going to be watching [TS]

  plane crash investigation the entire time I can. [TS]

  I went and I went and I probably won't talk too much about plane crashes. [TS]

  I know that's powerful and kind of if you know you put a video. Yes yes they did. [TS]

  Congratulations this is like it seems like you get chasing them at the moment [TS]

  but you know not everyone said that I don't feel like they're much faster [TS]

  but I don't know I haven't I haven't someone out there probably has a spreadsheet of my upload schedule I have no idea. [TS]

  But yes I got this one out. Franticly and just barely in time for the July fourth deadline. [TS]

  But yes this we're recording it shortly I should be not shortly after [TS]

  but a few days after the American empire video went live. It's already passed a million views. [TS]

  Yes that has crossed over into my very successful categorization which is more views then subscribers within seven days [TS]

  so I can't complain about interesting metric and I hate that one. [TS]

  I'm I'm pretty sure we talked about this before more so I came more season after remember that one I'll stop lying that [TS]

  I don't I don't think I don't think this works entirely but this [TS]

  and also because You Tube has a shall we say dramatically changed the way subscribers work since about a year ago my [TS]

  metric used to always be I would take the number of subscribers [TS]

  and you say OK I should get more if I take the subscriber number and divide it by three. [TS]

  So take one third of that I should get more views then the third of my subscribers within seven days [TS]

  and I got that number by looking at other channels that I thought were successful channels [TS]

  and seeing how do their video views do compared to the subscriber numbers. [TS]

  So that that was kind of my minimum threshold of of what counts as anything below that would be kind of a failure. [TS]

  But I may have to make life pretty miserable right now. Well it also depends on what kind of channel you're running. [TS]

  It's like you can't you have to look at OK what are comparable channels so I was looking at other channels that has [TS]

  like a low upload frequency but relatively successful videos but I haven't revised that number recently [TS]

  and I think I may have to because of the way I think subscribers. [TS]

  Those numbers mean less now than they used to so I think that estimate may be a little bit over optimistic [TS]

  but still I think a very successful video for me is more views than subscribers in seven days [TS]

  and so the American empire won't cross that and yes I'm pleased with that. [TS]

  There than was a comedian I think it was it was luck. [TS]

  It feels like kind of the American equivalent of your famous you know U.K. [TS]

  Explained video felt very much like that it was it was the it was the US version it was the video that was begging to [TS]

  be made. Yes yes that is exactly it and I have to say I have Jim Why the hell does it take so long to make it. [TS]

  Well I am kind of. [TS]

  Unable to believe that nobody made this video before me this is been anxious [TS]

  and on my mind for a long time that somebody was going to beat me to this video because it seemed it seemed like the [TS]

  obvious thing to do and I don't know why nobody made it before I did so how do you how do you know nobody's made it [TS]

  and it just wasn't successful and it's on some channel with seven views. [TS]

  Well I don't know that because I'm not You Tube omniscient I can't know if your hero is on the whole so I thought you [TS]

  were great. Why don't you know what everybody had for breakfast today. [TS]

  Let's see on the scope of Knowability this is the other. You didn't stop me saying it a minute ago. [TS]

  Yeah OK I would have to go back and edit in the word virally successful right. [TS]

  No one made a virally successful version of this video is the correct thing. [TS]

  But yes if you're if you are the if you are the listener who made the video that has seven views. [TS]

  I guess I'm sorry but that you know I was but I was I was anxious about getting kind of scooped on this one [TS]

  and I have been for a long time because this has been a relatively high on my To Do list [TS]

  and what does it take so long because first let me say I love the video. I actually liked it more than the U.K. [TS]

  One because I guess a lot of the stuff in the U.K. [TS]

  when I already knew you know part of the Commonwealth [TS]

  and all that where is the US one had lots of new information for me personally [TS]

  but watching it it didn't feel like a video that would take years of thinking and research. [TS]

  It felt like you know you just had to look the stuff up write a good script I mean you wrote a really good script [TS]

  and you know I can respect that would take some time but it still doesn't seem a lot more than a week or two's work [TS]

  and it's taken a really long time. [TS]

  Well that you know I don't I don't want to pick on you or anything because it's cool video. [TS]

  I always emotionally in times you know well first of all I have not been working on this for you here [TS]

  but that would be a really poor showing if that is like oh man you like you need some help. [TS]

  There are there are many things that are on my list which are in the cut and the back of my mind [TS]

  but it doesn't necessarily mean that I'm actively working on any of those projects I kind of keep my eyes open for [TS]

  interesting things that might go in the video for things that are on that list [TS]

  but it doesn't necessarily mean I'm actively working on them. But that's also why I think I think it was a Q. [TS]

  and A video as I did I mentioned that it's I estimate it's about ten hours per minute on screen to make the videos [TS]

  but that ignores a lot of this kind of unquantifiable time is sort of grazing [TS]

  and putting things away for a rainy day sort of. That's exactly it. Or I mean even just like we were talking. [TS]

  Here today like I spend I try to spend time reading every day. Does that count as work. [TS]

  On video I often pick books that are related to future topics that I'm going to do. [TS]

  Does that count you know I don't know I don't know how to quantify that amount of time [TS]

  or so yeah it's ultimately unknowable precisely how long it takes. [TS]

  But in terms of I am going to make an American empire video I think I really settled on that probably about three [TS]

  or four weeks before it got published. [TS]

  OK I was I was working on something else [TS]

  and then I had to kind of switch because I didn't the other thing I realized was not going to be out in time [TS]

  and so I thought OK I want something soon. [TS]

  And I settled on the America topic and I think I was about three or four weeks before. Well that was a cool video. [TS]

  Well done I enjoyed it. Thank you for making it and I'm glad you liked it. Are you unhappy with the video. [TS]

  I think would be fair to say whoa is me. This is terrible. My video is a mess it's going to be awful. [TS]

  You were kind of you thought it was going to be really bad. [TS]

  Yeah and when so when I watched it and it was really good I was like well well well I'm only you were doing. [TS]

  Well I think you were actually you know you were doing you were humble bragging I know it [TS]

  and you were telling me how terrible your video was and all the problems as I knew it was going to be really good. [TS]

  First of all even if that's what I was doing that's not humble bragging that's lowering expectations humble bragging is [TS]

  different [TS]

  but I do a humble checking to make any sense now I fumble jacking it's a word look at a point of addiction because I [TS]

  was humble jacking will be on urban dictionary before the day is that it's just just like I don't know if you if you [TS]

  saw it in time but. [TS]

  The Wikipedia briefly had Brady typing listed under the hunt [TS]

  and peck typing section there on their key article about keyboard typing and as of the hunt [TS]

  and peck typing also known as Brady typing [TS]

  and I think you can see in the history there was this little edit war back and forth about whether [TS]

  or not his term should be included [TS]

  and eventually the section for that article in Wikipedia had to be protected by a Modoc. [TS]

  Let's stop arguing about this Brady typing is not a thing. You are lowering expectations. [TS]

  That's what I was humoring you before. [TS]

  My sentiment was genuine [TS]

  and so forth for the listeners the background here is that you were trying to contact me we were possibly meeting up [TS]

  and you contacted me at the kind of need year of my moment of making this video which was I was at the very last minute [TS]

  very early in the morning on July third just wrapping up the animation trying to get it exported [TS]

  and uploaded to You Tube and because it was a rush job I was up late the night before [TS]

  and I was just genuinely very sad about this whole project because. [TS]

  Well he is here's the way into this my feelings were genuine and I still look at that video [TS]

  and I'm not very happy with it but I feel better about it now than I did at the time. [TS]

  First of all the fact that it's successful definitely helps. [TS]

  OK Other people like this so I can feel a little bit better about it [TS]

  but I think this is a great little time to talk about you can see the thing you brought up before the match is just off [TS]

  of handily but the notion of it's a good time to talk about the notion of brain crack [TS]

  and rain crack Do you know what I mean by brain crack. OK So sounds like a drug thing. [TS]

  Well it is sort of like a drug thing and some people know this just immediately this is. [TS]

  There's a frank ages ago when he was doing his Basically the thing that gave birth to modern blogs which is the show [TS]

  and actually Hank Green just did a blog where there's a video about the history of Internet video. [TS]

  I'll put the link in the show notes for people to check out this if you if you are a young person on the internet [TS]

  and want to hear like what it was like for us old timers for us grandpas to tell you stories about how the Internet was [TS]

  back in our day. [TS]

  Go watch this video by Hank Green he mentions the show and kind of why it was important and very influential [TS]

  and Frank also currently has a You Tube channel which is doing very well. Put that in the description as well. [TS]

  But the show I was lucky enough to have found it when it was active and I used to watch it all the time [TS]

  and one of the actually I would probably say his best episode is this episode where he talks about the notion of brain [TS]

  crack [TS]

  and it's a very useful thing to think about it the idea is that what can happen sometimes if you make things that you [TS]

  have an idea about a video. So in my case this American empire video. [TS]

  What can happen is over time if you don't actually work on that thing you you start to think about how good it will be [TS]

  as opposed to thinking about how am I going to get this thing done. [TS]

  OK As time goes on you're kind of abstract notion of how good this thing will be. [TS]

  It becomes very large and very outsized. Anything that could possibly happen. [TS]

  And I think this this American empire video is a case where I had a severe severe case of brain crack [TS]

  and didn't realize it until the video was kind of up and over. [TS]

  As well after I did that you can explain video there was there was a brief time I thought like oh this is just a one [TS]

  off thing and then I like Mike you can agree it was very by chance like I happened to make a couple more videos [TS]

  but I never really thought this would be a thing. [TS]

  But but once I settled on oh let me try to make these kind of regularly. The idea of doing the U.K. [TS]

  Explained version but for America it was just so obvious it just so happened that basically for a year [TS]

  and a half I never made it because there was always something else I want to make more [TS]

  but the result is this thing had been brain cracking in my mind for maybe a year and a half. [TS]

  So the result is when I actually sit down to make the thing it seems like nothing [TS]

  but awfulness because it's being compared to this abstract idea of how good it's going to be [TS]

  but you don't have any actual concrete thoughts about it it's just you know I don't know if you ever have this let's [TS]

  talk about dreams for a moment BRADY You know with my fave. [TS]

  I thought you had to talk I looked for a mustard so I don't know if you ever have this expense that you have [TS]

  or you wake up from a dream and you have the feeling either that something in your dream was really funny [TS]

  or like oh I had a really great idea in my dream. Do you ever have that experience. It doesn't ring a bell. [TS]

  I can either remember what was in my dream and therefore all the associated emotions or a giant I fell from my cup [TS]

  and just have a feeling very interesting. [TS]

  OK well I know some people do this anyway but not so you will be able to sympathize with this [TS]

  but I think I have this little theory that some sometimes I will wake up from a dream or [TS]

  or people of like why I had a really great idea in my dream but I can't remember what it was [TS]

  or something was really scary in my dream but I can't remember what it was when waking up with that kind of feeling [TS]

  and I have the suspicion that when that. [TS]

  And what's going on in your brain is the part of your brain that that recognizes good ideas [TS]

  or that recognizes something is funny is active even though there's no input to it it's just spinning so like you have [TS]

  this same feeling that you have when you have a great idea but there's nothing there. [TS]

  You're in the middle of your eight hour evening hallucination where that happens every day [TS]

  and I think the brain crack thing is a kind of similar phenomenon that happens like this thing is in your mind [TS]

  and what ends up happening is that you're not really thinking about oh how am I going to make this thing. [TS]

  What happens is just the abstract notion of how good it's going to be. [TS]

  It ended up in your brain [TS]

  and that Europe is really in Europe a zillion footballer imagining what it's going to be like to hold the World Cup [TS]

  aloft before you actually play the games required to win. Yes it's a sort of sort of and. [TS]

  So in the end is a frank video. Can I just interrupt my thanks chief it was a cold brain crack. Oh sorry. [TS]

  His idea is that if you're not careful you become addicted to the brain crack that like thinking about how good the [TS]

  thing is going to be becomes better then doing the thing and you know kind of like not doing it [TS]

  and this is where I was leading with his conclusion is that the way to break this addiction is [TS]

  when you have ideas in your mind is to just don't think about how good they are just make them as soon as you can [TS]

  and I think that's a useful notion and say you were locked up. [TS]

  If I was going to pick anyone in the world who doesn't follow that advice it's you. [TS]

  Well this is I don't follow that advice at all and it's partly because my production cycle is very long [TS]

  but nonetheless I find it a useful notion to keep in mind [TS]

  and I'm actually kind of glad that this thing happened because I'm working on something now that I will say I have [TS]

  basically been. [TS]

  Bring cracking for years this is a topic that I've been thinking about doing something on for a very very long time [TS]

  and it is a useful for me to remember because I want to try to get it up soon and I keep working on [TS]

  and feeling like this thing is just terrible [TS]

  but the America Empire video has reminded me like oh no note you know just make it. [TS]

  Don't concentrate on how bad you think it is because it is like an optical illusion going on here you've thought about [TS]

  it so long that you're not even really thinking about it you're just thinking about I want this thing to be great [TS]

  and it's a it's a topic that I'm intensely interested in and have been for many years [TS]

  and I've actually diverted us from talking about it sometimes on the podcast because I want to save it for after the [TS]

  video goes up so anyway that is that is that is brain cracked that is why I was terribly sad about the video [TS]

  and I feel better about it now even though I still don't like it it's not one of my favorites there you know where as [TS]

  with everything I wish I had had maybe two more weeks to really tighten it up [TS]

  and it feels very it feels very sloppy to me to say is that so funny to be ready. Yes. [TS]

  OK so we know she could probably tighten up that five or six minute video statutes already incredibly tough [TS]

  but now it is so sloppy so sloppy That's why I don't. [TS]

  But anyway that's I'm not saying you couldn't tighten that but I think it may take weeks. [TS]

  It's just a snippet a few words and shorten a few sentences. [TS]

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  The design of US state fakes interest me because I'm a real on the flags. [TS]

  Oh OK All right we're going to talk about this than I was I was looking at that [TS]

  and I thought oh here it is the worst thing to try to talk about on a podcast let me put up a voice up for talking [TS]

  about sex and flags and maps are two of my favorite things which is probably why I like your videos so much. [TS]

  OK I'm good. Going to send you a link through this guy he delivered. [TS]

  Opened a pair and they are being projected into my eyeballs. [TS]

  Piracy over current state flags I would like to know just just looking over them. [TS]

  What are your initial thoughts about this collection of flags What are your first impressions. [TS]

  My first impressions that there are a lot of red and blue moon I see a lot of British. [TS]

  What I perceive to be British British looking things to them. [TS]

  Well my impression is that some of them are very similar to each other and some of them are very different [TS]

  but most of them or most of them seem to be blue with a with a roundish logo in the middle. [TS]

  I feel like I'm supposed to be saying something that I'm not I know I know you are you are not letting me down. [TS]

  You would never let me down Brady and I'm just curious as to your initial impressions. [TS]

  Yeah I would say I'm just a bit overwhelmed [TS]

  but to give you any one impression not just a whole bunch of colorful flags I look at a page like this [TS]

  and this is just a train wreck of awful awful design I think maybe if I get it it's just it's hideous [TS]

  and they're not cohesive. [TS]

  But that's the beauty of it is that they kind of got a science story and each is disappointing in its own special way. [TS]

  I don't expect necessarily to be cohesive but I just I look at these these these state flags [TS]

  and it generally once son of Brad had to go and you have share in Pennsylvania are all quite good. [TS]

  I mean they're just good solid data to confirm first of all first of all have to help out the people here who are [TS]

  driving. In the car or can't look at the other one of the lines of course they're on a plane. [TS]

  Do you mention that on domestic flights now you know pay for the Internet. [TS]

  Look if you look at this train wreck of design look at the terrible thing that the U.S. State flags. [TS]

  It's disappointing it's because there's so much interesting potential squandered. [TS]

  These flags and almost all of them or an actual count of the the biggest chunk of the flags [TS]

  when you look they are blue and they have some boring and or ugly seal in the center. [TS]

  I like hey that's what I noticed so I was sort of on the right track. Yes. So Blue seals or seal in the center of blue. [TS]

  We've got it. [TS]

  Idaho Kansas Kentucky sort of Louisiana not exactly Maine Michigan Minnesota Montana Nebraska Nevada manages to make it [TS]

  even worse. New Hampshire New York my home state is so disappointing. New York. [TS]

  Now it is said he is trying to hold on wealth of North Dakota Oregon at least Oregon mixes up low [TS]

  but Pennsylvania Utah as well. [TS]

  Also disappointing showing there Utah Vermont Virginia [TS]

  and Wisconsin it's a whole bunch of flags that are just blue with a seal in the middle. [TS]

  OK So first of all just horrifically unoriginal [TS]

  or boring flags I look at something like let me open up here at the at the New York. [TS]

  It's OK for me to criticize my home state flag I don't make people upset over it if you're so the New York state flag [TS]

  is like so many others is particularly not great color blue either blue black background with a seal. [TS]

  There's two women standing on the other side of the Shield [TS]

  and The Shield for New York has a little picture of the Hudson River. [TS]

  And there's a sunrise over over the hill in the background. Trust me internet. [TS]

  It sounds so much nicer when I describe it than if you go look at it if you look at it I think it's hideous. [TS]

  The sun has a little face on it like it like a kindergartener drew the face. [TS]

  I don't understand why that's there I think it's it's just hideous. And think about this New York is the Empire State. [TS]

  How great is that as a state name. Right the Empire State. [TS]

  There's so much cool stuff that you could do with the New York flag. [TS]

  But here is a flag that just is an iconic and doesn't represent anything interesting about New York state [TS]

  and you know I know one lyric supposed to be iconic So it's not like people put the state flags on it it's not like the [TS]

  national flag I mean there are fifty of these things there are fifty of these things [TS]

  but I think you underestimate Americans attachment to their States of America. [TS]

  There's a little there's a little legal thing I left out of the U.S. [TS]

  Video but Americans are legally citizens of both their state [TS]

  and the federal government even though we don't have a passport or anything just for the state [TS]

  but it's a it's a legal level that does exist that you are a citizen of New York [TS]

  or whatever state you happen to live in and an American citizen. [TS]

  So I think that the state flags they should be iconic partly because you often see them all shown together. [TS]

  So I happen to often go by the U.S. [TS]

  Embassy here in London which is I'm going to give it the award for the most unfriendly most unwelcoming building in all [TS]

  of the U.K. The No two is a secure. [TS]

  You could call it describe it as you might call it secure [TS]

  but that building just telegraphs go away in every way it possibly can. [TS]

  Is that you look at the building and the building looks back and says. Go away. No no she's Betty. [TS]

  Yes and if you visit the USA embassy in London out in the front there are the fifty state flags [TS]

  and then they show them [TS]

  and interestingly for anyone who goes there I leave it as an exercise to the viewer to figure out why the flags are in [TS]

  the order that they are in. Outside of the London embassy it's interesting we'll touch anyway. [TS]

  Precisely because they're shown together they should be iconic. [TS]

  You should be able to say oh that's New York or that's New Jersey. [TS]

  But now so many of them I mean a person who we had to the uses of these flags professionally like [TS]

  when I make a video about them there's no way I could win a guessing game of which flag is who's for almost all of them. [TS]

  The just if you go fifty state flags over trying to be iconic [TS]

  and different from the one next to them wouldn't it just get crazy [TS]

  and you'd start having like you know a fluorescent pink triangular one with. [TS]

  OK a green alien on it just because you want to be different from the guy next to me. [TS]

  How can they be a little bit of an understatement. [TS]

  I mean everyone's business card looks the same [TS]

  but that's because business kinds of artists is classy little thing that in this car we have a little bit of [TS]

  information about that they're not they're not kind of you know supposed to scream Look at ME I'M AMAZING I'M iconic [TS]

  look at my stars and stripes they just like this. [TS]

  Understated moment of hey here's who I am buddy I mean but there are there are a lot there are awesome business cards. [TS]

  You've seen destines business cards that man has incredible business card OK You put me in a difficult situation now [TS]

  because you know I love destiny but I think having silly business is silly I think it depends on who you are [TS]

  and of I am not a fan of novelty. [TS]

  I know I like a bit of the old fashion class and I think these old flags these nice blue flags with the Lakers on them. [TS]

  And Justin's business card by the way is not a business card it's more of a joke thing they're a fun thing he gives to [TS]

  fan so I'm not dissing destines business [TS]

  but I think state flags like I think have a be a class you don't have to scream the loudest [TS]

  and say look at me you know I'm different from all the others why not just say hey I'm just cool calm guy with a class [TS]

  not all right all right. [TS]

  Here's the thing I think that you can design a cool calm classy flag [TS]

  but I think none of these flags meet this requirement either. I think they're all just kind of hideous. [TS]

  None of them are a single test [TS]

  and one of Alabama because I guarantee he's going to get in touch better than flag No I love the state. [TS]

  All right hold on let me let me let me take a look I don't think I was actually going to ask before I left. [TS]

  All right was it that if you had to pick the best flag on here what would you Carrick And I from my perspective there [TS]

  is only one decision to make you're one of these flags is great and it obviously stands out from the best. [TS]

  And now I'm hoping that you pick it. I like Alaska I like it. [TS]

  Oh look a few of them I mean fit for iconic ness Texas does well but I quite like those blue ones with. [TS]

  I definitely don't like Maryland. I'm sure I like the looks of them. [TS]

  Alaska is my favorite because God Constellation on the Big Dipper one of the well you know there's a lot there are a [TS]

  lot there's a few I don't like. California's pretty Co I mean I like the ones I guess I'm most familiar with. [TS]

  And they invariably are the big famous states are and then put me out of my misery. OK if you have. [TS]

  You line up all the flags and say which of these is the best flag I think. [TS]

  No contest hands down number one winner goes to the great state of New Mexico New Mexico has the best flag by far [TS]

  and for the listener it is a yellow background [TS]

  and it's this red the symbol which is just sort of I don't know how to describe it sort of it's like a cross like a [TS]

  like a little plus sign in the center but it's let me describe it for you then. [TS]

  OK you have it looks like a corporate flag of a company that produces chemicals know how wrong it looks so in fact if I [TS]

  was going to name one that I didn't like that would be on the list. [TS]

  We had looks like it looks like it's got a corporate lawyer. [TS]

  It doesn't look like it's from the past from history it looks like a belongs to some company called Synergy three [TS]

  thousand now. [TS]

  Now New Mexico number one in my book I would say that that the that the logo in the center is the only native american [TS]

  looking where I'm sure it's got a lovely story behind it. [TS]

  I mean we're going to have we're going to disagree [TS]

  and you know me I don't care at all about the history of these things I just care about how it looks. [TS]

  It's my you know it's it's funny you picked out. [TS]

  I'll pick another one that you that you mentioned that you mentioned Maryland as being terrible. [TS]

  We're going to disagree on high and love the Maryland flag but I that it outright. [TS]

  Right right but I love the particular reason so again for the listener the Maryland flag. [TS]

  It is objective Lee hideous I think you would agree right. [TS]

  Do you know what I'm really reluctant to say too much of this stuff because we're going to find out now it's like it [TS]

  was designed by some. [TS]

  Oh so if you're out driving back pedaling don't start backpedaling Listen I'm just worried that I don't know the [TS]

  stories in there I don't know who you are and listen to this in a moment like this. [TS]

  Just double down on confidence and your ignorance. Fredricka is going to go with your plan straight ahead. [TS]

  OK So Marilyn I love your flag and here the reason why. It is hideous. [TS]

  So it's divided into quadrants on the top left in the top right or sort of red and white crosses [TS]

  but that they're colored in a strange way [TS]

  and on the on the opposite corner are the completely uncolored matched yellow [TS]

  and black checkers that are also skewed at an angle. [TS]

  I think there is nobody you could show the Maryland flag to who their first reaction wouldn't be this terrible plight. [TS]

  But here's a pile of the America that the Maryland flag to me is one of these things in life sometimes something is so [TS]

  hideous it like wraps around the spectrum of like we imagine this line is like good and bad. [TS]

  Like an old fashioned video games where if you go too far to one side you end up popping back up on the other side [TS]

  and to me that's not the flag of Maryland has accomplished I don't think they have quite wrapped around him [TS]

  and if it's so awful that I totally love it never change Maryland has been just the greatest. [TS]

  Have you ever seen the strength in state flags. [TS]

  Actually I don't know if we have I don't know if I knew this because this would disappoint you even more. [TS]

  I don't know if I feel like I might have [TS]

  but I don't remember them off the top of my head having to scroll down to states and mainland territories. [TS]

  National Governors States and mainland territories [TS]

  and ignore the two that are a bit different because they're not states anyway. Is a C.T. In the Northern Territory. [TS]

  So ignore them or just look at the other six. [TS]

  OK OK it's the same thing over the same thing repeated [TS]

  and I like that I now do uniformity NOW NOW NOW NOW for the listener again what we have here for the Australian states [TS]

  is you know the U.K. [TS]

  Flag that's in the top left as it is in so many flags the rest of the flag is blue [TS]

  and then each of the states has a little. Different seal that's in the kind of other half of the of the flag. [TS]

  No what it what have we got here one of one of them is like the with the George lying with the cross [TS]

  and I have a crown and a Blue Cross we have what looks like what is it a crow [TS]

  or some kind of bird on a yellow background. [TS]

  That's my state that censorious out of trying to ensure that a piping Shrike piping Shrike means just what it is that [TS]

  we have a lion on a white circle and then we have a cancellation and a crown [TS]

  and oh sorry sorry wasn't Western Australia almost forgot you. We have a black swan on the yellow circle. [TS]

  So I say basically this is the same thing over [TS]

  and over again with a slight tweak each time does this offend you if you aren't good I give two thumbs up to Australia [TS]

  because if you're going to do something like this be consistent about it [TS]

  and I would have no problem with the American states if they all did something similar where they OK everybody OK [TS]

  everybody we're going to get on board and we're going to have a basic template [TS]

  and everybody does a variation on that template and that that I would be one hundred percent OK with [TS]

  but I think that the American states are just the worst because even the ones that look similar they've all chosen a [TS]

  different colour blue and it's all it's like guys use the same blue don't use slightly different blues [TS]

  and that the seals are all different sizes and it's just I cannot tell you. [TS]

  When I hear a little detail for people who really obsessively watch the videos. [TS]

  The when I so when I make the country girls I have to take the flag in kind of fitted onto the skirt [TS]

  and the skirt is a triangle. [TS]

  Now you would not believe how poorly almost every flag in the world maps onto a triangle you need to make more videos [TS]

  about Nepal. I don't know I shouldn't. I think in the pub and Paul I would just. [TS]

  Might just change the shape of the skirt I think is what I would do for that would be cocoa [TS]

  but it's surprisingly hard to take a flag [TS]

  and shrink it down so that it is still identifiable in a triangular shape because all the mags are designed to be a [TS]

  rectangle and I usually spend some time trying to figure out the way to make it look the best [TS]

  and one of the things that I do if you pay a lot of attention is your nose a lot of the flags are kind of off centered [TS]

  from the from the triangle I think they end up looking a lot better when they're just a little bit knocked one way [TS]

  or another which also causes tremendous problems for me and animating it [TS]

  but that the Side Story I don't I think are getting some insight into what it takes so many weeks you have just come [TS]

  out. I do not want to know how many hours I spent trying to make the state girl's skirts not look just disastrous. [TS]

  And on a bunch like on the New York one I zoomed in all the way to get rid of almost the entirety of the flag [TS]

  and just focus on this little bit with the Hudson River or they just were just so awful [TS]

  and that's why this is on my mind as I was like I was dealing with a horrible design of the state flags [TS]

  and then like oh how can I tried to make them look good [TS]

  and it was just there was just one of the things I just going to keep going on this I'm sorry. Looking at the flags. [TS]

  If you're designing a flag for whatever. [TS]

  And you give it to me for feedback like I'm greeting it like I'm the teacher here if you have to write the name of your [TS]

  thing on your flag. Instant fail. Instant fail. Just I'm sorry Montana. [TS]

  That seal might be really nice but if you have to write Montana up across the top fail Oklahoma Oklahoma. [TS]

  You're so close to a kind of awesome flag I mean you need to change the blue background obviously [TS]

  but your central logo is great but then you're right Oklahoma across the bottom fail state of Oregon fail. Ah. [TS]

  Kansas sale Illinois failing high school things don't know enough and they look at the Arkansas fail. [TS]

  Ice just that instant fell and what one of the ones one of the ones which is it just hurts me deeply. [TS]

  California California. Man you're so close to awesome with this flag. [TS]

  But then you have to write the California Republic across the bottom [TS]

  and I know I know you want to do this because you were for about a week you were a republic sort of depending on how [TS]

  you want to count that. And so you want to have that there. [TS]

  I understand but you know what you also have you've got a huge bear on your flag right. [TS]

  Go with the bear and make the bear bigger make the bear is scarier. But then you're a California Republican. [TS]

  Cross the bottom is just. So close like it's going to go American in America. [TS]

  They does what it says on the tin with America like they're not there's no there's no subtlety Oh go now there's none [TS]

  of that right you haven't got USA written on your leg. Well that's exactly it I imagine. [TS]

  Like if some of these state designers had made the American flag it would just say USA Stars [TS]

  and Stripes everywhere it would be written like the means are with impact font you know maybe an exclamation mark [TS]

  and then like many of these states do they also have to write the date to say USA seven hundred seventy six for ever [TS]

  write like exclamation marks. That's what if that's what it would be and it's just I don't know if it makes me sad. [TS]

  So some of them are the ones I don't know of Wisconsin as well as constant eight hundred forty eight one the ones that [TS]

  really get me are the ones that are so close like the California one it bothers me more because it's almost great [TS]

  and I feel the same way with Wyoming. Take a look at Wyoming flag. Wyoming has a. [TS]

  American buffalo in the middle has a nice bold colors it's got the red and the blue and white [TS]

  or the red border with a white border and then a mainly blue. OK nice mixing it up. [TS]

  Looks a little bit good it's like a picture frame and you have the American Buffalo right in the center. [TS]

  Outlined very cool and you have to ruin it by like cramming in this seal which says the great state of Wyoming. [TS]

  No one can look at that flag [TS]

  and not immediately think I'll be so much better if they just took out the seal how iconic would this be how cool is [TS]

  this you have an American buffalo I'm your flag. Really what's happened here. [TS]

  And actually this is what's happened in most of these flags you can tell is they're suffering from being designed by [TS]

  committee. [TS]

  It's like someone has said I'm not voting for if I hasn't got a sale and someone said Oh [TS]

  but it's so good with just the buffalo clean and yeah that now that is exactly [TS]

  and someone has said we have to have California written on it and the bad guys gone. [TS]

  Now I know that this coat sleeve the bear and the other guy's going you know I'm really proud of the name and [TS]

  and that's where a lot of ace of stuff it's been a group of people who've been required to approve it. [TS]

  I mean what I want to ones also I have I have. [TS]

  Let me start over there just as we could do a house show that the state thinks well I'm going to keep going because I [TS]

  am as you are because you can't be stopped. I give it up and I'll do the edit. Yes it's true. [TS]

  Also it's the ones that I just again I'm deeply disappointed in Utah Utah can you so if you tied blue as a seal on it. [TS]

  Now one of the things I like with flags is we think OK could you could you could you have picked a worse topic for a [TS]

  podcast that we're going to heat the house but no one could say these things and then [TS]

  when you do these things well so hopefully many people right now are bunking off work [TS]

  and they just have the wikipedia article for the state flags open so they can follow along. [TS]

  OK your flag should be immediate immediately identifiable It is my rule for this [TS]

  and Utah because of its kind of its history it has the beehive [TS]

  and this notion of industry as a kind of central themes of the state as is like OK OK that's great. Go with the B.S. [TS]

  Right make your flag about bees or industry like it's very easy to imagine in dust like an industrious image [TS]

  but no shrink is down so it's so small and it's just barely in the logo and at a glance you can't possibly tell it [TS]

  and then you think it's just eight hundred ninety six written across the bottom like are just B.S. [TS]

  You tied in great like that like there's state highways it has little beehive as logo. [TS]

  It just seems it seems I don't have to throw in this giant eagle an American giant as like to hide the thing that makes [TS]

  them unique. Double down on your uniqueness and just go with these flags. [TS]

  I mean your wanting to design a modern corporate logo here. You know thinking flag you're thinking corporately owned. [TS]

  OK OK Here's here's an example I'm going to go if you mention Texas before something you like. [TS]

  Yeah so the Texas state law I feel like everyone would know it because it is so iconic [TS]

  but it's blue bar on the left hand side white star and then two stripes the top one is white and the bottom one is red. [TS]

  Now I'm one hundred percent great with Texas. [TS]

  It's but it's a it's an abstract flag [TS]

  but it's the kind of thing where you can because it's abstract you can map your feelings of Texas onto it at that [TS]

  but that's a different way to go. And Texas is a state with an incredibly strong identity anyway. [TS]

  People have a mental image of what Texas is. [TS]

  And you then project your feelings onto that Texas flag and you can do so because it's a relatively abstract flag. [TS]

  And I actually feel the same way like I think a similar kind of flag is. Right next door to it is a flag for Tennessee. [TS]

  Mostly red the blue circle in the center three white stars and a little blue stripe on the side. [TS]

  Again that is abstract and so Tennessee that you can project your feelings about Tennessee onto that flag [TS]

  and that flag is also it's identifiable in a way that so many of these these SEAL flags are not with us in Alaska was [TS]

  my favorite. Tell me why I'm wrong all right. I'm OK with Alaska. I'm fine with it. [TS]

  I don't I don't have any problems there. [TS]

  It's definitely it's definitely I don't you know I should i should I should feel what I should actually do is genuinely [TS]

  sit down and great all the flags. Rank them in a list. [TS]

  I couldn't I don't know if I could rank them except obviously for New Mexico the winner. [TS]

  But I should I should at least try to group them. Who gets who gets aides who gets B.'s who gets fees. [TS]

  I feel like Alaska is solid B. Maybe B. Plus you know I know and everybody with words. F F immediately. [TS]

  So you're giving California an F. I'll keep California but I think you have to think about that I don't know. [TS]

  I'm making no promises here [TS]

  but I love that you're so passionate about it I love flags I love so if I wasn't who couldn't I hadn't I had the flags [TS]

  of all the countries in the world. [TS]

  Unlike a poster right next to my bed and I go to sleep every night when I was a boy [TS]

  and it had the flag the name of the country and the capital of the country [TS]

  and I spent so many hours just staring at that it's a lot of it is still quite ingrained on Mark. [TS]

  Whenever there's like a flag section on a quiz show or something. [TS]

  I was surprised myself by how many fags I can identify just like from from from boyhood couldn't look at them anymore. [TS]

  But how many of them were just him. Printed into my brain from that process. [TS]

  Oh yeah [TS]

  and I think one of the reasons why I feel so passionate about this is I think that a flag is a really interesting [TS]

  design challenge. [TS]

  You know how how do you want to go how are you going to represent your nation [TS]

  or you know some cities have flags How are you going to represent your city [TS]

  and what are you going to do in this in this limited space [TS]

  and there's a lot that you can do with either going along with expectations [TS]

  or breaking expectations like the flag that have crazy shapes or I think there's just so much here [TS]

  and it's really interesting [TS]

  and there's so much potential which is not a finite thing that we think these are so important [TS]

  and yet in a previous episode when I discuss sort of the symbolism [TS]

  and importance of people's surnames to them you completely don't get it. [TS]

  And yet flags these abstract things attach to states you know compete you know going to stop you talking about you [TS]

  can't you putting words in my mouth which is important. Does it is this is this an important issue. [TS]

  I mean obviously the hideous way that most of the states have left their flags for hundreds of years. [TS]

  Signify that this is not on the top of their importance list. [TS]

  So it's hard to say that it's important and I wouldn't say that but that's why I used the word interesting. [TS]

  I think this is this is very this is very interesting how to how to solve this problem in Arizona. [TS]

  I think good job Arizona like that no I don't Arizona the stars with the with the sunshine coming out of it the oh how [TS]

  could I how I would I would go amiss if I didn't mention this the flag of Hawaii you know my my wife is from Illinois. [TS]

  So I have to mention this. The flag of Hawaii I put in the same category. [TS]

  As the flag of Maryland which is kind of hideous but also wraps around into you know what I like it [TS]

  and the the Hawaii flag also has the U.K. [TS]

  Flag in the top left and then it has six stripes red white and blue again but [TS]

  when you look at the British flag does not line up with the stripes if you are a person who has tremendous O.C.D. [TS]

  This is not a flag for you. [TS]

  These things do not align in any way [TS]

  but I think that also wraps around I like the the flag of Hawaii I also think it's it's at least in this crowd a very [TS]

  identifiable as always in the sense that it certainly stands out on the page. [TS]

  Yes and it's a different it's a different aspect ratio. But seriously we're going to move on right now. [TS]

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  Now the usual advice that you hear which is total nonsense is that you should just follow your passion [TS]

  and find something that you're passionate about and then just magic happens and your life is awesome [TS]

  but I mean the whole track of advice is just terrible and so good they can't ignore you. [TS]

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  And I recommended it on Twitter a few times and I recommended it on my You Tube channel [TS]

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  internet. All one word. If you have been you have been productive. You also wrote a blog recently. [TS]

  Oh yeah it's cold I have died many times. Yes and it was interesting. [TS]

  Very kind of it's not really it was something I would necessarily expect from you in some ways I don't mean to put you [TS]

  on the spot here but I would speak. [TS]

  How how would you try to summarize this for the listener what would you say that this is about. [TS]

  It's same today the message saying today that we away as humans we are always changing over time. [TS]

  Physically and mentally and the person you were sometime ago is completely different from the person you are now [TS]

  and that person shouldn't be considered the same as you and they're like you can't you can't judge them [TS]

  or compare them to the person you are now it's like a whole different person. Is that right. [TS]

  Yeah I think this is sort of the gist of it. One of the thing I'm not sure but it does have a fee. [TS]

  So has a few flaws maybe doesn't have flaws. It's a nice thought but it does beg a few questions. [TS]

  Oh I think it definitely definitely back some question this is something that I have I have found true in the way that [TS]

  I think about myself [TS]

  and I think that it is it's a useful tool for other people to keep in mind which is that you are not. [TS]

  It's useful to think of yourself as not the same person that you were [TS]

  and the easy way to think of this is as the the like the child version of you said I think the kid who went to middle [TS]

  school. He's not you know he's someone who became you. [TS]

  But for a lot of practical purposes you are basically different people. [TS]

  If there is enough time separating the two of you and I threw out a number just because I needed to pick a number [TS]

  but I kind of feel like. [TS]

  Basically if you go back ten years that's a long enough period of time that you are a different person from that person. [TS]

  And I'm I start out the article by using this example where my wife and I we were having dinner [TS]

  and we realized that we had known each other for ten years at that point. [TS]

  And as we discussed it we said like we feel that the people who met both of us have changed a lot [TS]

  and that we're we are not really those people anymore. [TS]

  We feel kind of grateful to them because their decisions led to our current life. But we don't feel like we are them. [TS]

  We feel like we are we are different people especially since eventually we got married [TS]

  and then you end up you if you start affecting each other in a way that you were different people before [TS]

  and now you're married and so you. You naturally affect each other to people your personalities. [TS]

  But even if you don't get married just living life going on in life there's a constant change that's happening [TS]

  sometimes fast sometimes it's slow [TS]

  but I think people sometimes get it get hampered by thinking of themselves as a continuous person I just think has a [TS]

  hamper them. What problems does it cause if you think in that way. Well yeah you're right there. [TS]

  Well OK OK one of the one of the I would say what prompted me to write this is something has been on my mind for a long [TS]

  time and and is this this thing that I saw with my students [TS]

  and I was really aware of his being different from my own life which is that the kids I taught all grew up in a world [TS]

  with with Facebook and I swear I'm not going to pull like a grandpa. [TS]

  Get off my lawn moment here this is this is just a wondering thing I'm not saying this is bad I'm just saying I wonder. [TS]

  But but so like the high school kids are taught [TS]

  when they went to college they were still very much connected to their previous life. [TS]

  They were still very much connected to all of their friends they knew in high school [TS]

  and in a way that was not possible because of technological differences. [TS]

  When I went to college I mean I might as well have have been traveling across the country. [TS]

  I just nobody I knew from high school went to the same college that I did [TS]

  and I just wonder about this if this is fact where with things like Facebook that people end up kind of carrying around [TS]

  ambient influences from their former selves in unhelpful ways. And one of the one of the things that came. [TS]

  When the discussion on Reddit which I thought was a good example was people talking about how [TS]

  when they like grown adults when they go back [TS]

  and visit their parents for holidays that they feel themselves like sliding back into the role of what they were like [TS]

  when they were younger I don't know do you experience this. [TS]

  I try I don't I don't know why I think I wouldn't describe how you described it but it is different. [TS]

  It is definitely when you go back to places of your childhood a strange sensation. [TS]

  Yes I remember you know I I go into lots of environments you know that maybe should be intimidating that I come to [TS]

  and intimidating to me no. [TS]

  But when I went back to my old school recently I felt physically nervous going there [TS]

  and I can't explain why it was a really anxious experience. Also probably because school is a time of great anxiety. [TS]

  There are things that are always do [TS]

  and the threat of the principal's office looms constant ninety percent of the divine I remember. [TS]

  I don't mean the scolding anxious experience but I feel anxious going back there. [TS]

  Yeah yeah I mean there are differently when you go back to your old haunts you get strange feelings beyond nostalgia. [TS]

  So there is something going on. Yeah and I know I experienced this a couple times when. [TS]

  I mean basically after after I went to college I very. [TS]

  I have very rarely been back to the place where I grew up and that's why I didn't have a bad childhood or anything [TS]

  but I'm on the couple of occasions when I went back I was very much aware of [TS]

  and did not like this feeling of like somebody else grew up here and I'm not that person anymore [TS]

  and I don't really I don't really want to. Here time is time to go. [TS]

  I'm not and I'm just very very strange very strange influence. [TS]

  Let's say I sometimes run across people who seem very past oriented. [TS]

  And there are people who are grown adults [TS]

  but who still end up kind of framing events in their life through the lens of their childhood experiences I think is [TS]

  the most common version of this that I see. [TS]

  Can you give us a practical example of a benefit for example people saying things like Oh I am I was in a very popular [TS]

  kid in high school [TS]

  and then kind of viewing all of their adult interactions in the same way feeling like oh I was always just the [TS]

  unpopular kid and. [TS]

  I feel like I have died many article Times article as it is a bit like you don't always have to be the person that you [TS]

  were. If you don't you don't always have to be where you are from. [TS]

  The change is possible and constant looking back is bad. [TS]

  I think you look you look forward in your life and things things in your past can positively affect your future. [TS]

  But they are done they are over and they only have the amount of importance that you continue to give them. [TS]

  And so if you're looking back you're constantly reinforcing the importance of things. [TS]

  And if it's something positive that you want to carry forward into the future that's fine [TS]

  but I don't know if I feel like people have kind of invisible anchors that keep them being the person that they always [TS]

  were. And maybe I feel too. [TS]

  More strongly because I had such a sharp break going to college and maybe it's a little too personal [TS]

  but as an example as like I was not in high school a very popular kid and but I was lucky [TS]

  and I had a little group of friends but I wasn't like most teenagers I like a very mopey person. [TS]

  I was not someone probably people would want to be around and I remember very well [TS]

  when I went to my college orientation which was like preparing we're not starting college isn't starting now [TS]

  but it's starting in the future so we go to orientation. [TS]

  I remember very strongly going to orientation and looking around and realizing like oh. Nobody here knows who I am. [TS]

  It's also means nobody has any reason to care about me like my friends from high school we've known each other for a [TS]

  long time and so there's there's like an intrinsic caring there but [TS]

  when you just show up to college nobody knows you you have to learn really fast how to not be like a mopey miserable [TS]

  person that people don't want to be around. [TS]

  Yeah [TS]

  and in some ways like what what what it what that does is it's like look you have spent your whole life being one way [TS]

  and things are changing and like you have to let go of that now that person [TS]

  and all of their reactions has to just be gone. [TS]

  And for me that was a very very positive experience and I had a similar kind of thing happen again sort of [TS]

  when I moved to London [TS]

  and it was a sense that I'm intentionally choosing to move to a place I don't know anyone at all [TS]

  and it's kind of a break with the past again and it's like OK we're going to move forward [TS]

  and I did it first that's a good for that but yeah changing schools and changing things [TS]

  and the way that they Yeah yeah I am good in that huge. We in favor of these kinds of fresh starts. [TS]

  But I think it's like it's like a value multiplier if you consciously think of it as I am a different [TS]

  or I can be a different person. You know I don't have to be the person that I always was. [TS]

  And this this just naturally happens [TS]

  and I the thing I speculate about a little bit in the article is is I worry about kids these days growing up [TS]

  and kind of always having immediate access to the circle of friends they happen to have when [TS]

  when they just grew up wherever they grew up. [TS]

  I wonder if that has a bit of a dampening effect [TS]

  or just even even for adults as you know there's this kind of affected everybody knows on online [TS]

  and social media which is as more and more people in your life follow you so just. [TS]

  OK First of all it's just a small group of friends and then it's friends and then some family and then some family [TS]

  and some co-workers and then suddenly like on Facebook the classic thing like your Facebook friends with your mom [TS]

  and your boss. Yeah. Suddenly you're very constrained and. If you don't it just it changes your actions. [TS]

  If you're constantly thinking about all of these people in your life I don't know I think maybe I was wandering off a [TS]

  little bit far here [TS]

  but you know I mean I I mean I'm still friends with some people from SCO you know who are very dear to me [TS]

  and you know we're still good friends but there's a whole bunch obviously [TS]

  but I've also just completely lost touch with. [TS]

  Yeah I'm not that long ago I kind of shared a contact with some school people partly because it was a reunion going on [TS]

  and partly just curiosity you know within the FI wakes it was like you know I wish them over all the best in the world [TS]

  and I'm sure they're great people with amazing lives and much happier than me perhaps [TS]

  but they would just like complete strangers to me it was like did I even know these people. [TS]

  Yes things they're saying [TS]

  and doing in the life they're leading it was like oh my goodness it's just like Congress becoming friends with complete [TS]

  and utter strangers who just happen to know my name and I sort of and in the end kind of drifted away from that [TS]

  and realize that wasn't probably how I should be using Facebook and I don't do it anymore [TS]

  but it was a first for a while it was a strange experience it was like you know I could never go to a school reunion I [TS]

  think for that reason. MAN Yeah. I've been I've been invited to school reunions and I feel the same way. [TS]

  I wish everybody I went to school with great lives. I hope they're all doing well. [TS]

  I can't imagine ever going to reunion for the similar reason that it is like a stranger Party is basically what it is. [TS]

  From my perspective we have all changed so much that we are fundamentally different. [TS]

  And now this is just an arbitrary gathering of people whose past people used to knew each other. [TS]

  Practice like that's not why it's very very strange. So yes I have not gone to my high school ever intend to. [TS]

  I think this is why I found you I have died many times article quite strange experience to rate I've only read it once [TS]

  to be fast you know close enough. Well you have a baby. [TS]

  Maybe I've kind of you know I skim skim read too much [TS]

  but it was a strange mix of what I would expect for me a kind of a very logical thinking [TS]

  and you know a logical argument about the way we should think and progress in life [TS]

  but another part of it seemed a kind of new agey and you know the old me and the new me and I have died [TS]

  and it was kind of a little not religious but it was kind of a little bit new agey is the way I would describe it [TS]

  and it didn't it didn't seem like the sort of things I would expect from you. [TS]

  Yeah funny this is this was also a thing where. [TS]

  I've been thinking about this article for a while and I thought let me just write it [TS]

  and have many many disappointments with it and one of it one of it is the kind of language [TS]

  and how do you express these thoughts [TS]

  and not a new age kind of person I know I can totally understand it from reading the article it can kind of sound a bit [TS]

  new agey but I don't know I have been thinking very consciously for years in terms of days past me and Future Me [TS]

  and those present me and I find that very useful [TS]

  but it's sometimes hard to express in in writing in a way that doesn't seem dumb. [TS]

  I don't know if there's anything I can nation A or something. [TS]

  Yeah I mean yeah I was a reincarnation either I mean that's you get that. [TS]

  But and I want to boil down to it I have this feeling like. [TS]

  The only you know the only you you have is like present you and pasturage doesn't exist anymore [TS]

  and President you can just make decisions for future you [TS]

  but it is also very helpful to consider future you as though he's a different person. So what. [TS]

  What decisions would you make on behalf of a different person who you don't know yet who you don't know [TS]

  and they wouldn't I wouldn't bother too much about them. [TS]

  But but the catch is you are going to eventually be that person like you [TS]

  or you have to make decisions for a future you could like a different person [TS]

  but you will subjectively experience their life [TS]

  and in this case you're probably understanding why I thought this whole thing was making this in the most not new agey [TS]

  way possible but yet it does it does sound this way [TS]

  and this is also one of the reasons why it's you know again my my my wife and I talk about this because [TS]

  when you were married. [TS]

  You talk about long term decisions for your life and we're very conscious sometimes of [TS]

  when you make long term decisions. [TS]

  Don't try to presume that you will know all of the preferences of you from in ten years from now and [TS]

  and so I think that that is helpful sometimes especially when you can see like irreversible decisions. [TS]

  You know if you want to be careful about not necessarily presuming that the future you are going to be exactly like the [TS]

  current You [TS]

  and I talk about in the article is like is there anything you would agree on with the teenager version of you I mean I [TS]

  think I might strangle to death the teenage version of me if I ever met. [TS]

  You're so irritating just just shut up I think. [TS]

  Take your current Me and future Mayo share the same views on how the rest cashew nuts [TS]

  but I don't feel like I could order a big can of honey roasted cashews that's for future may and he'd be pretty good. [TS]

  Well yes that's what and this is the one thing that I was entirely unable to communicate in the article [TS]

  and is this notion of I don't mean to imply that the future is a totally different person like it [TS]

  but it's a hard to write an article that expresses both of these thoughts at the same time you know like there are [TS]

  things that can be the same [TS]

  and it's actually funny because shortly after I publish this I happened to be talking to my parents on video chat [TS]

  and they say a word. [TS]

  This is again this is one of these things where I feel this most strongly sometimes like my parents will show me some [TS]

  picture of me as a kid and they'll be like oh look at you here and I feel like I'm not sure that's me. [TS]

  That's like larval me you know this person grew up to be me but he's not me. [TS]

  They were my parents were saying how they go oh you know. [TS]

  It's so interesting to have seen you grown up and that that from their perspective. [TS]

  They say oh adult me is just like the childhood version of me. [TS]

  From their perspective it seems like I'm the same person [TS]

  but they say they're just like I'm just more of what I was as a kid. [TS]

  Now that I'm a grown up and you know my own subjective experience is is very much different from that. [TS]

  So it's interesting it's interesting to see that sometimes [TS]

  but I don't know that there's any Well my people can decide what I think about what you said [TS]

  and that's read the article for themselves. So I'm sure you put a link in the show next. [TS]

  Yes And I said I'm trying to portray this as a useful framework. [TS]

  There's something in your life that you want to change in a in a positive way. [TS]

  I think this is this is a useful mental framework to keep in mind [TS]

  and that's that's kind of why it's kind of why I wrote it. [TS]

  But yes I think it's it's going to I'm not sure it's the clearest but it's there anyway. So that's that. [TS]

  So you've got here something in the next about democracy three and I have no idea what that Eva Mendes. [TS]

  So I break this might bore you to tears [TS]

  but now I'll talk more about the flag so you don't you cut me off with the flag that was that was that was just because [TS]

  I want to watch the World Cup later on [TS]

  and I thought if I didn't stop you really would we would talk more about Flags In other words democracy three. [TS]

  Democracy three is a video game that I had of my i Pad And this is it's a video that's why I warned you you're going to [TS]

  be hard [TS]

  but I think I would actually be pleased about that I thought it was going to be some boring kind of you know paper [TS]

  someone had written about the future of democracy in games potentially is more interesting. [TS]

  Potentially from a bout of the rethink so this was I had this with a game I had saved for after my last. [TS]

  Video so many American video went up I was like OK for any little bit of downtime what am I going to do [TS]

  and this was on my list to try this one next. [TS]

  And now this game is the most perfect example of what I said before I tend to play games that are basically work [TS]

  and this game game is in quotation marks. It is basically a spreadsheet is the way to describe this game in game form. [TS]

  So his his is not Wouldn't people normally think of and it's a it's a country simulator [TS]

  and you are elected as president of a country that Australia Canada the U.K. [TS]

  There's a bunch of different ones that you can pick. [TS]

  Can you redesign the flag or are you stuck with what I've got now you stuck with what they've got [TS]

  and put a screen shot up a link to the game actually in the description [TS]

  but also put a link to the screenshot for just people who want to take a look at it. We get in close to the game. [TS]

  All it is is a whole list as a whole picture of bubbles each of which represents either some kind of problem in your [TS]

  country or some kind of law in your country and you can click on the bubbles [TS]

  and then you can adjust the effects of the law. [TS]

  So for example you can set the taxation rates higher [TS]

  or lower you can say am I going to have corporation tax is there going to be a cigarette tax. [TS]

  Are we going to have a National Health Service how much are we going to fund it how much are we going to fund the [TS]

  military all the rest of this and there is there must be two hundred things that you can pick from [TS]

  and all of them have effects on the voters in this pretend country here so there's a basic premise. [TS]

  What made me kind of laugh out loud is it puts you in a scenario where you have to think very differently [TS]

  and it's one of the reasons why I really like videogames as a kind of cultural thing. There's plenty of mindless game. [TS]

  Like Call of Duty I'm just trying to kill all the foreigners in a horrible way like Call of Duty games are terrible. [TS]

  You shooting people but they can be kind of interesting tools [TS]

  and democracy three is set up in a way so that basically there's almost nothing you that you can do that's not going to [TS]

  frustrate some people the way you say you move the slider and it affects the voters [TS]

  and non-linear ways it's like impossible to try to balance everything [TS]

  and you put into all of these no win situations where you just you just can't make everybody happy [TS]

  and that doesn't make it a video like that. You're never going to make everybody happy. [TS]

  But so the thing about it is that made me laugh I realize I'm playing the game [TS]

  and you have to try to keep the budget balanced so that there are these big things that you're trying to do to keep the [TS]

  country on track let's not default on our debt. Let's not have crime just go crazy in the streets. [TS]

  But there's a million other policies just like in the real world that people care about and. [TS]

  I'm playing the game immediately. Immediately your mind goes toward God you know group X. The unions are unhappy. [TS]

  How do you find yourself doing immediately. [TS]

  What is some token issue that I can just throw in there a way to make them happy. [TS]

  That basically doesn't really affect anything. [TS]

  You can search for that this is exactly right like is there some is there something that I can do in this game to just [TS]

  make Group X. Happy. That doesn't really affect my budget in any any meaningful way. [TS]

  Annotation is politics [TS]

  but this is why I thought the game was a great example of really kind of showing you look like I know this in the [TS]

  abstract it's one of reasons why I don't follow the particulars of politics very closely is because [TS]

  when you look into a lot of the issues you realize. [TS]

  So much of politics is kind of smoke [TS]

  and mirrors exactly about this like issues that maybe necessarily don't affect lots of things [TS]

  but people just care tremendously about it but you know it and I want to [TS]

  and I was don't want to mention anything in particular [TS]

  but I'll just pick one that actually happens to be represented very well in the game [TS]

  and it is how much money are you going to put towards welfare fraud investigations. And like in the U.S. [TS]

  This is a perfect example. [TS]

  Yes people love this people want to hear that you have some huge program that you know investigating welfare fraud [TS]

  and terror. But if you actually dig into the numbers this is just such a non-issue. [TS]

  Almost certainly the amount of money that you put into welfare fraud investigation is going to be more than you say [TS]

  from the level of welfare fraud that actually occurs. [TS]

  But people love the welfare fraud investigation even in the game it's like on an intellectual level I'm completely [TS]

  against most welfare fraud investigations because they're not cost effective. [TS]

  But boy do the voters love them like yes to welfare fraud maximally funded. [TS]

  There is the idea of the game is to get reelected is it what you have or the country successfully. [TS]

  That's exactly it get get reelected without running everything into the ground. [TS]

  It's just so interesting because you can know something intellectually [TS]

  but I think a well designed game can make you feel it really instinctually in a way that you can never quite [TS]

  intellectualize and that's why I thought this was it was a great example. [TS]

  Sounds good but you can also you can see how if someone goes into politics and they've never been in politics before [TS]

  and then you realize in politics OK what do you actually spend most of your time doing fund raising. [TS]

  Well what are you worried about. Angry voters you know kicking you out of office so what can you throw their way. [TS]

  It doesn't actually cause. Thank you very much money or impact the things you're really trying to do. [TS]

  If you're doing that for a long period of time you can see how like the I have died many times think you're kind of a [TS]

  different person at the end of that I'm not necessarily saying you're a worse person I think the politics example [TS]

  sounds worse but just because on a daily basis you're thinking about things in a different way. [TS]

  It changes who you are in the same way that when I when I became a teacher. [TS]

  I think about education in a totally different way than I ever did as a kid [TS]

  and then I'm making like this is my first adult job now making adult decisions in an adult world [TS]

  and all of this feeds back into kind of changing who you are over time but I don't think you'd be a good politician [TS]

  or a political leader. Well according to the game I get assassinated very quickly very alike. Yeah. [TS]

  It's if if you have one group that particularly doesn't like you there's a non-zero chance that you will be [TS]

  assassinated. I don't know how many times I was assassinated by one group or another. [TS]

  Question like What can I do to please you group you know the trying to through this. [TS]

  So it's interesting because on paper you should be good because you struck you quite moral You're very logical you do [TS]

  think about what's good for the the greatest good you know efficient very efficient paper you should be OK to latish [TS]

  and in practice you try to be absolutely terrible. [TS]

  This is I think sometimes when I do the like the animal kingdom politics that he [TS]

  or I do a video on voting people often leads leave comments of a Lego to C.G. B. [TS]

  Grade for president if you'd be great for King. [TS]

  Sometimes I respond to those comments and then you do not want me as a political leader. [TS]

  Let me just let me just say that right now this is not something you really want particularly in the IT WERE some of [TS]

  the real world like like I would never ever want to be a politician and I think I would be. [TS]

  Terribly bad at it because actual politics is about being really good with people [TS]

  and being able to negotiate under certain sort of certain situations and you've got a nice voice. [TS]

  Yes but that that is a very small part. [TS]

  Actually I go out and I was with you but not all voice over actors or politicians. [TS]

  You know we're not being run by voice over actors and maybe we should say that [TS]

  and particularly in the United States if you ever dig into the numbers of how politicians spend it they basically spend [TS]

  almost all day every day fund raising. [TS]

  And people have this notion of oh politicians they're reading laws and writing laws [TS]

  and now they are on the phone calling people to give them money. [TS]

  That is what politicians do most of the time and [TS]

  when they're not doing that they're trying to work out deals with other politicians to get particular pet projects [TS]

  through to make somebody in their district happy so actual politics. I would have no interest in ever doing that. [TS]

  And then. This kind of theoretical position where I am elected king somehow and have absolute powers. [TS]

  Nobody wants that either. [TS]

  That's not that's not a good situation because I agree with you that my my overriding thought if I was actually in [TS]

  charge of a country is OK This is a huge responsibility. [TS]

  I am very concerned about the welfare of my people and I will do things for the greater good. [TS]

  My sis and this is sounding like a bit of a political pitch to me [TS]

  but this is what I imagine is the banner of great trouble this is for the greater good. [TS]

  But I heard a lot of horrifying things that can happen under that kind of notion. [TS]

  So you know just because that's the way I would think about it doesn't mean that people would be happy about it at all. [TS]

  Though I don't think there's any universe in which I should be a political leader [TS]

  and I would not want to be a political leader. So anyway. Well I think I'd vote. [TS]

  I'd say if you don't do not vote for me that's my recommendation. Some city any good still. [TS]

  I keep I keep thinking I want to play Sim City again and download it because that would be my escape [TS]

  or have things moved on is that no Electronic Arts the worst video game company in the world currently owns similarly [TS]

  and has run it into the ground in it in a terrible manner I did rate something on its Electronic Arts is awful. [TS]

  They ruined a couple of great games that I really liked. [TS]

  So they are a terrible terrible company and if you work in Electronic Arts. [TS]

  I'm sorry but you should feel bad that your company buys great independent game companies and then crushes them [TS]

  and drinks their blood and turns it into money and it's an awful awful company so no I cannot I cannot recommend it [TS]

  but it's funny that you mention it because actually Sim City was my very first experience with this as a kid the very [TS]

  first Sim City I left there I remember it so clearly they had light movement of I mean some said he was so simple [TS]

  compared to something like democracy three but just the notion of. [TS]

  All of the citizens they want parks but they get angry [TS]

  when I was raise taxes to pay for the parks just just that intuitive feeling I think is very interesting that the games [TS]

  can show you and Sim City is a good example of that [TS]

  and it was my first real experience of that of oh this is teaching me to to think in a different way than I normally do. [TS]

  But no I cannot I cannot recommend the current version of Sim City. [TS]

  I've been looking for a good Sim City simulator game for the mac but I cannot say that I have found one yet so sorry. [TS]

  So I'm betting I'll just keep working. [TS]

  OK if you like making a video of you start playing video games you will be making as many videos [TS]

  and people would be sent. Yeah so I think we actually have other stuff to talk about but I do think we have to stop. [TS]

  I think we have to stop it yeah I think you've got a bit side tracked by direct. [TS]

  Did I get sidetracked or or I think you did I hear you do that off before fully expressing all of my very interesting. [TS]

  It's where you going somewhere was there like a grandfather. [TS]

  Was there a big payoff that I didn't let you get the pay off was more complaining that's what the payoff was I think [TS]

  you were just going to go through each leg one by one [TS]

  and I was like a detail could take probably would have if you hadn't stopped me we were going to talk about a movie [TS]

  but I think you have to say that for both say that there's a movie that we're going to talk about [TS]

  and we'll talk about in the next episode because we've both got things to say about it. [TS]

  Yes OK That's your incentive to keep listening to. [TS]

  Actually I wonder should we tell people what the movie is so it can be like a homework assignment [TS]

  and that's a good idea so we could we could do that. [TS]

  Actually this is this is also a good a good time to mention something else that we were mentioning as we get it will [TS]

  mention moving now we want to talk about the movie her with I can never be the guy's name the chain looking paintings [TS]

  easily leave Phoenix and how he changed it or something. [TS]

  After the movie is called her [TS]

  and we're going to talk about that next time so maybe this is a homework assignment people can watch the movie [TS]

  and then then listen to the episodes so that they are prepared. My my advice I'll talk about this more next time. [TS]

  But my advice always with movies is just watch it. Don't try to find out a whole bunch about it. [TS]

  Just watch a movie and if you don't like it you turn it off. [TS]

  But go into it if your so that's that's that's that's for the movie [TS]

  but I will just mention we have links in the show notes and people should be aware that those are affiliate links. [TS]

  So if we link to Amazon for example or if we link to i Tunes avi you click the link [TS]

  and you buy something through that link. Hello Internet does get a very small percentage of that. [TS]

  So I've gotten a lot of requests from people which I really appreciate where they said oh I have all of the websites [TS]

  and the audio books I could possibly have. Is there any. [TS]

  Other way that I could support the show and so if we mention something that you happen to be interested in you [TS]

  and you click the link that's another way that you can support the show if if you want the no obligation which is just [TS]

  saying that that's the way it is. So the people are aware. [TS]

  But yes some some people have all the audio books and websites and razors they could possibly want. [TS]

  I wonder I have no idea as a recording this who is going to be the appetizers for our show so maybe that one opening [TS]

  show it's not going to be electronic at Electronic Arts. I don't want your money because you're evil. [TS]