00:00:04 ◼ ► We've been trying for thirty five minutes to get this thing to work to get a connection between the two of us [TS]
00:00:17 ◼ ► and apparently an Indian dude in between the two of us starting this record it was more difficult in the first one we [TS]
00:00:26 ◼ ► ever did. Yeah by far by a lot. We have been beset with technical problems tonight. [TS]
00:00:31 ◼ ► Yes we have and there is nothing more interesting than podcasts talking about their technical problems getting started. [TS]
00:00:38 ◼ ► However are you trying to call me and pressing the same button several times in a row. [TS]
00:00:50 ◼ ► and I would love to know if any of the listeners have had this because Yet I wonder now like has someone tried to hack [TS]
00:00:58 ◼ ► or does face time just for the law occasionally send you to random strangers send me to the same guy twice in a row. [TS]
00:01:06 ◼ ► Unlike the third time I've been caught you using the same things. That was I think there's a ghost in the machine man. [TS]
00:01:21 ◼ ► and off halfway through this point customs of the going to find myself talking to that other bloke that might be good [TS]
00:01:27 ◼ ► he might be really interesting that you might be here we go where he is his brilliancy G.P. [TS]
00:01:45 ◼ ► and of the people had say in our last half hour which was mostly us looking at each other you hear each other [TS]
00:02:01 ◼ ► We would go under just like two cave men banging on the screen with a bone or something just to make it work. [TS]
00:02:11 ◼ ► The funny thing was I was like oh my goodness for the first time ever it's great technology [TS]
00:02:16 ◼ ► and I missed the CO I finally at the end of twenty minutes we realized it was my mistake in my headphones [TS]
00:02:24 ◼ ► Because I think my headphones stop working at the exact moment you happened to meet your so for some other reason. [TS]
00:02:33 ◼ ► and it was my fault all right all right OK so let's try to do some follow up like normal people. [TS]
00:02:40 ◼ ► Flowcharts flowchart OK so I just want to give a shout out to a couple of people in the red it made these flow charts [TS]
00:02:50 ◼ ► of our conversation for the previous episode and as one might imagine who'd listen to many of these episodes. [TS]
00:02:58 ◼ ► Our conversations can occasionally be shall we say meandering they can loop back around they can visit a topic many [TS]
00:03:07 ◼ ► and to very patient very diligent editors have detailed all of the various flows of the conversation [TS]
00:03:14 ◼ ► and all of the various loops so I'm going to put those two links in the show notes and. [TS]
00:03:19 ◼ ► Maybe nobody else is interested in this but I actually find them quite interesting to look at [TS]
00:03:23 ◼ ► and to see what happens if you try to map on a on a screen in the direction that a conversation takes over time. [TS]
00:03:31 ◼ ► You say meandering I say textured and rich and complex. Yeah is that what you're saying. [TS]
00:03:39 ◼ ► Also I did notice that H R I animated made its comeback this week there was the fifth installment of da skis. [TS]
00:03:53 ◼ ► Now dusk is done another amazing job with those animations I really really like his work. I'm very happy. [TS]
00:04:01 ◼ ► and so yes I will definitely put a link in the show notes as well people should check those out if you haven't seen [TS]
00:04:12 ◼ ► but like every time it's getting a bit weird I realize there's lots of in jokes I don't get to because I'm not very [TS]
00:04:19 ◼ ► but they have heaped I said they change the context of things I think dusky has a style [TS]
00:04:26 ◼ ► and I think he's doing well with that style. But people should check it out. So that will be in the code. [TS]
00:04:33 ◼ ► OK so last time last time you told me about the airlines trying to paint paint over their logo as [TS]
00:04:54 ◼ ► and I'm going to say that if you were Felix in the red it was the winner of this one [TS]
00:05:00 ◼ ► and he called that wreckage redaction and I think that's I think that's a good phrase [TS]
00:05:11 ◼ ► And so you say like oh wreckage you can think about this in metaphorical terms of any kind of disaster that a company [TS]
00:05:17 ◼ ► has gone through. They try to cover up any of the wreckage so that you don't know that it was them. [TS]
00:05:23 ◼ ► So I like this as a proposed term for this thing. I'm on board with that one time. That's good. [TS]
00:05:27 ◼ ► Oh good we both were both behind it the thing I like about it because last week not lost weight that last episode you [TS]
00:05:35 ◼ ► Yeah and I thought using I thought that just made it sound bland and boring and corporate [TS]
00:05:44 ◼ ► And obviously it's also got the alliteration so well done well done. It's absolutely perfect. [TS]
00:05:53 ◼ ► and a small point was to get a little conversation in the red it was about the legality of this and it looks. [TS]
00:06:00 ◼ ► Like at least in the United States it's pretty clearly illegal that it would fall under the category of evidence [TS]
00:06:13 ◼ ► but it seemed like as soon as there is any kind of accident the wreckage becomes the immediate property of the [TS]
00:06:23 ◼ ► and I can't go any kind of manipulation of that is evidence tampering so at least in the U.S. [TS]
00:06:32 ◼ ► That really seems to me the way that they using the evidence tampering law not in the spirit that the evidence [TS]
00:06:39 ◼ ► tampering though is intended because they're not really tampering with evidence for its evidential value. [TS]
00:06:46 ◼ ► They're tampering with it for a different reason I don't think they're not going to figure out how the plane crashed [TS]
00:06:56 ◼ ► but what I think they're doing is taking something that's clearly dodgy and bad anyway [TS]
00:07:03 ◼ ► You don't know man you don't know what's underneath that paint the investigators could be going all C S I on that [TS]
00:07:09 ◼ ► but you know some some dude with the paint brush was stomping around and breaking stuff with his boots [TS]
00:07:17 ◼ ► I'm going to really disagree with you here I think it is totally evidence tampering. [TS]
00:07:21 ◼ ► OK Well I think what they're doing is wrong and if they use the evidence tampering law to stop them then fair enough [TS]
00:07:30 ◼ ► and from what I've seen of plane crash sites it's not like it's not like a typical murder saying where you've got to be [TS]
00:07:36 ◼ ► careful about where you put your boot prints because it could be you know this plane crash is it is not like you know I [TS]
00:07:44 ◼ ► was going to try to use the Brady metaphor argument you would say something to me like Oh would it be OK if somebody [TS]
00:07:53 ◼ ► This is the kind of question that you would ask me if I was arguing on the other side which beat me to it like a year [TS]
00:08:05 ◼ ► Let's do it one as we go and do the whole bunch of Norway stuff and get you to Norway things [TS]
00:08:19 ◼ ► and this has a C T P Great written all over it I don't know how you can presume such a thing wrong. [TS]
00:08:34 ◼ ► and about a million people sent me the links to the new Norwegian passport you are correct my love. Way to Go Norway. [TS]
00:08:44 ◼ ► The front cover is very simple it looks like it's mostly just a color says Norway on it [TS]
00:08:52 ◼ ► But but the thing that I think is really the centerpiece of this is the page for the stamps. [TS]
00:09:04 ◼ ► and the mountains the mountains are done in a very angular style and they have and the moon is over it [TS]
00:09:21 ◼ ► But most importantly this is a page that accomplishes what I think a passport page is supposed to. [TS]
00:09:34 ◼ ► You don't know that it's easy to Ford I don't know if you don't know that at all particularly because that second [TS]
00:09:38 ◼ ► picture is what the same scene looks like if you shine a U.V. Light on it and so if you shine a U.V. [TS]
00:09:44 ◼ ► Light on this it makes it look like it is night time and so the moon starts to glow. [TS]
00:09:52 ◼ ► and it looks like there's a whole bunch of anti fraud information including the passport number maybe below. [TS]
00:10:00 ◼ ► I'm going flip and it is a very cool passport it kind of looks like it's from the sixty's or seventy's or something. [TS]
00:10:08 ◼ ► I think if you can pull that off that is one of the coolest looks that you can possibly have like movies that pull off [TS]
00:10:28 ◼ ► Big thumbs up to Norway on the passports of the second link I happen to know let me call up the second like OK I'm [TS]
00:10:36 ◼ ► calling it out now so passports was a way to have a look this is Norwegian money yes. [TS]
00:10:48 ◼ ► or do you want to try to explain it to listeners actually is what you should do first is this for real. [TS]
00:10:55 ◼ ► OK So basically on the front side of the currency it has quite a nice looking normal money. [TS]
00:11:04 ◼ ► Reminds me a little bit of sort of this sort of euro currency in its design and appearance in many ways. Quite good. [TS]
00:11:17 ◼ ► It's the exact same image except it's been kind of pixilated or Minecraft or door made or blocky [TS]
00:11:32 ◼ ► and on the other side it's this kind of redacted version you know most of what's going on here. [TS]
00:11:43 ◼ ► One thing I do quite like about the front side of the Norwegian money is that they haven't gone with the terribly [TS]
00:11:53 ◼ ► Or instead they have a lighthouse they have a very they have a very Viking looking ship might they have a fish they [TS]
00:12:00 ◼ ► The ocean and I'm a big fan of all of these designs on the front and yes on the back side they have pixilated it [TS]
00:12:12 ◼ ► or something what's going on here as far as I can tell I was just trying to google around a little bit this is just a [TS]
00:12:21 ◼ ► and this is this is again this is one of these things in design where I can't I never quite can put this into words [TS]
00:12:27 ◼ ► very well but it's like I will give Norway a thumbs up for a bold decision on the back [TS]
00:12:39 ◼ ► but I applaud doing something different you know my thoughts are I feel the same way as you I'm not quite sure what I [TS]
00:12:50 ◼ ► but the thing that amazes me was this got through all the levels of approval when politicians and administrators [TS]
00:13:01 ◼ ► It got through like at no point did someone say here are like that's really clever [TS]
00:13:15 ◼ ► My understanding is that this is the next round of currency because they have not yet been printed [TS]
00:13:20 ◼ ► but these are the finalized I think so I think someone's going to pull the plug at the last minute [TS]
00:13:24 ◼ ► and I think it's not going to make I think someone here or pod casting guy now. Gray doesn't like it. [TS]
00:13:32 ◼ ► and I would I would take this over most currency designs that I see because they just tend to be really boring not just [TS]
00:13:49 ◼ ► and if I saw it on a regular basis I think this might kind of move into Maryland flag territory if I could decide you [TS]
00:14:03 ◼ ► On first appearance but I applaud the boldness in design so well done Norway I think your money is interesting [TS]
00:14:13 ◼ ► Unlike many countries money which is just totally boring so that is that is the Norway stuff now we're going back to [TS]
00:14:22 ◼ ► Dulles Airport Dulles that's what is Dallas even Maine which is what is that word I believe it's an old Indian word for [TS]
00:14:30 ◼ ► terrible airport. Now sell US airports. Seems terrible airport airport is the literal truth. [TS]
00:14:37 ◼ ► Well if you have say in the last part because you've been known to have this was the worst airport in the world because [TS]
00:14:48 ◼ ► and plain sailing the island a little bit lower than you'd look just a little bit See thing is barely above my head. [TS]
00:14:55 ◼ ► So first of all there is an article which was a survey of people about the best and worst airports [TS]
00:15:03 ◼ ► and Dulles didn't come in as the worst airport but it did take the third worst airport category. [TS]
00:15:12 ◼ ► When you put the list in the next I'm going to look at this list you've got you've piqued my curiosity. [TS]
00:15:20 ◼ ► The three worst airports according to the survey the worst is New York La Guardia Airport which I have traveled through [TS]
00:15:30 ◼ ► it is not a great airport. Is it worse than Dulles I don't know I think I'd have to go back and do a comparison. [TS]
00:15:45 ◼ ► but as a New Yorker I am required to think that everything in New Jersey is terrible so I'm just going to assume that [TS]
00:15:54 ◼ ► These are all American airports by the way people just so you know way on other Canadian ones too. Yeah. [TS]
00:16:00 ◼ ► It's North America because the best airport according to the survey is Vancouver International. [TS]
00:16:06 ◼ ► So can a take that they're second best. Portland Oregon International and third best is Austin's airport. [TS]
00:16:18 ◼ ► Indeed they have as you know is that I am I'm a big fan and if you notice if you scroll it [TS]
00:16:22 ◼ ► but it doesn't pretend click clack Yeah if you scroll fast enough so well done Business Week on this website about [TS]
00:16:28 ◼ ► frustrating airports but so basically I'm not wrong that Dulles is the worst airport in the world. [TS]
00:16:33 ◼ ► Anyway the thing I want to mention which I actually found very interesting was there is a civil engineer who works in [TS]
00:16:46 ◼ ► Oh three thank you cool man Dan who left a big discussion about like why the Dulles Airport is so bad. [TS]
00:17:00 ◼ ► It is very interesting and then it started me down a kind of a rabbit hole about Dulles Airport [TS]
00:17:10 ◼ ► but the the most interesting thing is people who go to Dulles. If you ever have to change terminals. [TS]
00:17:24 ◼ ► but in a normal airport there would be some sort of underground tunnel or perhaps a little tram. [TS]
00:17:30 ◼ ► Now at Dulles they have these things that are like tanks maybe crossbred with apps that are just huge mobile ugly [TS]
00:18:00 ◼ ► All and they pull right up to the terminal and there's like a docking port for them [TS]
00:18:09 ◼ ► and then this thing drives across all of the space where the airports are the drives across a space where the airplanes [TS]
00:18:20 ◼ ► and takes you to this other terminal how horribly high off the ground than a lighthouse off the ground. [TS]
00:18:25 ◼ ► Yet they are at airplane boarding height qualify touching the ground what are they like driving on a low sounds bizarre. [TS]
00:18:39 ◼ ► Is kind of looks like like a Humvee or something you know I mean like that's why I say It's it's bizarre and. [TS]
00:18:46 ◼ ► The experience of writing in one would have made me think of is the opening scene to Saving Private Ryan and D.-Day. [TS]
00:19:05 ◼ ► Like oh nothing is going to shoot me right as soon as the thing opens up just like it is such a terrible terrible [TS]
00:19:15 ◼ ► and they are they seem unique to dollars I've never seen them anyway you know what they remind me of that remind me of [TS]
00:19:19 ◼ ► something I've been on that's much more pleasant at a place called Burger island down in the southwest of England here [TS]
00:19:30 ◼ ► and stay in Agatha Christie used to write books there and it's kind of a deco place but to get over [TS]
00:19:36 ◼ ► when it's high tide you can walk over a low tide but when it's high tide it kind of gets cut off from the mainland [TS]
00:19:42 ◼ ► and they have this little tract on wheels with like a platform and you stand up on the platform [TS]
00:19:49 ◼ ► and the rest of the tractor like goes underwater and you're just standing on this platform that's above the water [TS]
00:19:55 ◼ ► and that's actually really lovely because it's just five or six if you want to and you go into a lovely art. [TS]
00:20:06 ◼ ► Yeah Yeah Yeahs it's like it's like you're on a on a cattle car between airport terminals it's just terrible. [TS]
00:20:18 ◼ ► But as with everything in the universe like stuff just doesn't happen for no reason somebody wasn't just like hey I [TS]
00:20:23 ◼ ► know let's try to come up with a terrible way to transport people from one terminal to another. [TS]
00:20:27 ◼ ► So in my rabbit holing here I came across this video which is kind of worth watching [TS]
00:20:35 ◼ ► and it is the video promoting what Dulles Airport is going to be back in the I think it's like the early sixty's. [TS]
00:20:57 ◼ ► and how can we come up with some new system so people don't have to walk as much to get to the airplane. [TS]
00:21:08 ◼ ► and the planes are lined up at each of the land the plane the lined up along these corridors what we're going to do is [TS]
00:21:15 ◼ ► instead we're just going to kind of have one big gathering area for all of the passengers who want to get on planes [TS]
00:21:32 ◼ ► or however many terminal the airplane ever many gates the airport would have that was going to have twenty gates there [TS]
00:21:39 ◼ ► would just be on one wall of the main area twenty doors that you can walk through. [TS]
00:21:45 ◼ ► And each of these mobile lounges on wheels are going to pull up to one of those doors [TS]
00:22:00 ◼ ► Since at that plane heights going to drive directly to the plain dock with the plane [TS]
00:22:05 ◼ ► and just dump people on their right and when you watch the video it's like that's actually kind of a genius idea. [TS]
00:22:15 ◼ ► and it is also hilarious because the video talks about how absolutely luxurious these things are going to be like. [TS]
00:22:27 ◼ ► but in the meantime I'm showing this cartoon guy who's like you know lounging on this couch you know just it looks it [TS]
00:22:35 ◼ ► but they are like this is an interesting idea to have a row of basically buses that can dock directly with airplanes [TS]
00:22:42 ◼ ► and drop people off and then you can restructure the whole way the airport the airport is set up [TS]
00:22:54 ◼ ► But apparently the problem is that this is just before the era of when planes became much bigger [TS]
00:23:19 ◼ ► and like oh we're going to build another really long terminal that is also for planes that are like a generation too [TS]
00:23:27 ◼ ► and so the bottom line is like it was a really interesting idea at exactly the wrong time and then to try to fix it. [TS]
00:23:38 ◼ ► but the thing that you need is spaces for WAY bigger planes you don't need more space for smaller planes [TS]
00:23:45 ◼ ► and so this leads us to today where I found a couple of articles that talk about how like a home of the air traffic at [TS]
00:23:50 ◼ ► Dulles is going down and nobody likes to use it and it's awful and like the whole airport is just in jeopardy [TS]
00:24:01 ◼ ► But anyway I just thought that this mobile lounge notion is an interesting logistics solution to moving people around [TS]
00:24:11 ◼ ► and I love the idea that these horrible horrible transports are actually still called mobile lounges. [TS]
00:24:17 ◼ ► So it's a bit like it's a bit like an English town or something that's you know built for horse and cart [TS]
00:24:21 ◼ ► and cars are being invented in the town planners are going now I'm sticking with I'm sticking with building for horses [TS]
00:24:30 ◼ ► Yeah it's a bit like they realize oh people can travel around more because of all of these cars so we better double the [TS]
00:24:40 ◼ ► and they're going to need to get around in our town is like oh no now it's just twice as bad as if you just left it [TS]
00:24:47 ◼ ► I thought that's a very interesting I'll put the video in the show notes is also just worth watching it like a little [TS]
00:24:57 ◼ ► and talking about something you know turns out to be a total disaster altogether how many human minutes would you guess [TS]
00:25:03 ◼ ► you spent reading about this airport and researching how bad it was and all those problems. [TS]
00:25:08 ◼ ► Less than an hour less than an hour I know I've spent more than that I don't even care. [TS]
00:25:18 ◼ ► and airports despite the fact that I've just been talking about them for about half an hour are not hugely interesting [TS]
00:25:24 ◼ ► to me. I'm much more of a train person than a plane person but I didn't get as lost as I might otherwise. [TS]
00:25:32 ◼ ► OK I think that's that's good enough for now. Do you want to tell the next item yet. [TS]
00:25:37 ◼ ► Black Mirror is being released on Netflix in the US If you could you couldn't find any less enthusiastic if I mean you [TS]
00:25:49 ◼ ► and asked people to watch it for homework so we could talk about even more all of us friends complained that they could [TS]
00:26:03 ◼ ► and you should definitely And also I say they're going to have a white Christmas special here in the U.K. [TS]
00:26:11 ◼ ► So Will another dose of New Black Mirror as well. So it's win win on both sides of the Atlantic but we're on Netflix. [TS]
00:26:20 ◼ ► I wonder if there are any people that haven't listened to black mirror discussion on whatever episode it was on because [TS]
00:26:39 ◼ ► Speaking of our podcast you know we should mention that because people are people are really great like their voice you [TS]
00:26:47 ◼ ► know saying nice things and saying they enjoy listening and they have supporting our advertisers and they are buying T. [TS]
00:26:55 ◼ ► Shirts which is interesting up quite a few people been saying they've been wearing the T. [TS]
00:27:08 ◼ ► and I guess that's what we're going to do it like it's an ad because well like advertising ourselves now should we do [TS]
00:27:15 ◼ ► Yeah I guess you know we should we should totally do it that we do like a sound I can't even think what the sound is [TS]
00:27:20 ◼ ► when and that happens. Now going to require you to make the sound. I mention this because like blue blue blue. Yeah. [TS]
00:27:38 ◼ ► and listens to it can you do off the top you head over to me on the spot goes do they do it right I think that's really [TS]
00:27:46 ◼ ► do so so so with a deadly terror. Here is our ad. This this episode of hello internet has been brought to you by C G P. [TS]
00:28:00 ◼ ► A grey and Brady who now have the capacity for you to support our podcast by by doing something unpatriotic. [TS]
00:28:09 ◼ ► You've got to you've got to start off I was to do what should I say this podcast has been brought to you by. [TS]
00:28:19 ◼ ► I think they were getting really mad here to me will leave this conversation in about us trying to figure out how to [TS]
00:28:25 ◼ ► talk about this and then and then what do we say because I mean we can't just leave it at that. [TS]
00:28:33 ◼ ► and it's over done here it out so so if people go to what's the address is patriot on dot com slash its patron dot com [TS]
00:28:47 ◼ ► So some very generous people have asked if they can donate directly to the pod cast and so we have set that up [TS]
00:29:00 ◼ ► but we thought we should mention at some point so this is us awkwardly trying to figure out how to talk about these [TS]
00:29:06 ◼ ► kinds of things. So our Arbitron is available I think I think describing that as Or could was generous. [TS]
00:29:23 ◼ ► but it will not affect the part of us which is you know business as usual. Free for All. [TS]
00:29:33 ◼ ► None of this is you know this is just a total ick cherry on top kind of thing if you really like the show [TS]
00:29:46 ◼ ► but it is by no means mandatory do you think we should have some mechanism whereby someone like particularly likes me [TS]
00:29:52 ◼ ► but doesn't want any money to go to like your parents for example. Right you have some capacity for that. [TS]
00:30:00 ◼ ► I don't I don't think that I don't think ph on I don't think that's built into the system to say OK to split the money [TS]
00:30:12 ◼ ► For some of the really mean if it was that you would become a bit of a popularity contest [TS]
00:30:20 ◼ ► and I think the result was that everybody loved breeding and it's so I'm glad that that is not that is not part of it. [TS]
00:30:30 ◼ ► and OK Now after after that amazing stellar ad repatriating dot com slash are forgotten already how the Internet what [TS]
00:30:53 ◼ ► and thank you for listening to everybody this is our really professional day isn't it. [TS]
00:30:57 ◼ ► Forty minutes to try to get a decent connection up and running in a very very amateur [TS]
00:31:02 ◼ ► and I'm not sure this has been the pod cast in which it was appropriate for us to ask for support from a policeman. [TS]
00:31:08 ◼ ► But this is the way things have turned out. I saw something on Twitter during the week that shocked me. [TS]
00:31:16 ◼ ► Oh yeah a guy I follow a cool C.D.P. Gray said something along the lines of the fact that he has a Christmas tree. [TS]
00:31:25 ◼ ► Yes of all the people in the world of all the people that would not have a Christmas tree you would have been top of my [TS]
00:31:32 ◼ ► list. Hater hater of objects person who does not like clutter. Trinkets masses who pretty much is a bit of a scrooge. [TS]
00:31:55 ◼ ► Secondly I don't understand why is this why this is surprising you Christmas is nice. You don't like. [TS]
00:32:04 ◼ ► What function does a Christmas tree in your house what is it look like what do you put on up. [TS]
00:32:17 ◼ ► It doesn't stay in your house all year long and so changing stuff up is nice it's nice to have things different. [TS]
00:32:23 ◼ ► And yes even though for the rest of the year I might want my house to be relatively minimal. [TS]
00:32:29 ◼ ► It's nice during the holidays to put up a Christmas tree even if it doesn't serve any function [TS]
00:32:33 ◼ ► or perhaps precisely because it doesn't serve any function other does smell very nice it is actually a living tree. [TS]
00:32:43 ◼ ► or it was a kind of a living tray it hasn't got its roots in the soil anymore presumably. [TS]
00:32:47 ◼ ► Yeah I mean technically it's a dying on the way. What it is. Yeah. Every Christmas tree is a dying tree. [TS]
00:33:08 ◼ ► Well OK So ideally what we what we would like to do and I think it'll work out this year [TS]
00:33:15 ◼ ► but I found this bug as it got up it'll it'll have already occurred. We like to decorate on December fifth. [TS]
00:33:21 ◼ ► Half of my my family background is Dutch So St Nicholas Day is kind of a big deal there. [TS]
00:33:29 ◼ ► and so I think that is a nice starting point for the official beginning of the Christmas season. [TS]
00:33:35 ◼ ► I mean of course in the real world it ends like seconds after Thanksgiving is over. [TS]
00:33:41 ◼ ► You know is particularly American like Christmas decorations just go up immediately [TS]
00:33:49 ◼ ► That's when we will decorate you know there's the usual stuff you put of tinsel but bubbles on the tree. [TS]
00:33:54 ◼ ► I think we have to get a new star this year I think our star last year didn't work out very well. So here's the thing. [TS]
00:34:11 ◼ ► Who takes who takes the lead role on design issues because I imagine in my head You're the first person in the house [TS]
00:34:19 ◼ ► but I will arrange the lights because you have to arrange the lights in a particular way. [TS]
00:34:23 ◼ ► If they're not if they're not even if it's just it stares you in the face because it's in the main room of our house. [TS]
00:34:29 ◼ ► If you don't get the lights evenly distributed it's not going to work on your wife to do that if we can both work on it [TS]
00:34:47 ◼ ► But we both put up together it's like a fun family activity we both decorate the Christmas tree [TS]
00:34:56 ◼ ► and I don't know yet because I just honestly don't see why this is as rising. Well OK I stand corrected. [TS]
00:35:05 ◼ ► OTOH I will take a picture of our totally normal probably slightly boring because there's on coming to London [TS]
00:35:16 ◼ ► and my inviting you over to my house I don't remember this I think I think that's pretty much what just happened. [TS]
00:35:23 ◼ ► I don't think that's what happened though I think getting back to you. Do I will tell you what they're all about. [TS]
00:35:32 ◼ ► and I will bring a decoration to put on because the I will have to get something in your house for this [TS]
00:35:37 ◼ ► and he now it's starting to cross the line then we need to discuss boundaries and when you're [TS]
00:35:46 ◼ ► Decoration gifts that's an obligation that you're imposing on the other person no no no. [TS]
00:35:53 ◼ ► or like some kind of decoration for the House it's no good you know you can't do that. So get it off. [TS]
00:36:00 ◼ ► No I will send you a nice picture. So last time we spoke I was trying to get into India. Oh yeah yeah. [TS]
00:36:12 ◼ ► I did make it into into how did how did how did you end up because you didn't have the right number of days to get [TS]
00:36:17 ◼ ► string pulled for you because you're an important chemistry video guys i OS There are not many things I'm good at [TS]
00:36:23 ◼ ► but getting things like doing stuff like that I'm quite good at figuring out it's kind of a journalistic thing you [TS]
00:36:31 ◼ ► develop over the years just figuring out how to get stuff done get into things I managed to find a way [TS]
00:36:48 ◼ ► or if I just make it sound like I you know makes me sound a bit more James Bond if I leave it at that. [TS]
00:36:54 ◼ ► Let's just say it totally is hands James Bond but that's what I want to burst the bubble right now [TS]
00:36:58 ◼ ► but I mean happy with this James Bond battle so I'm I'm I'm going to caper. Let's just say I got in. [TS]
00:37:05 ◼ ► OK OK you can have a James Bond moment thank you. The reason I went was for the Commonwealth. [TS]
00:37:12 ◼ ► Science Conference which was a conference held in Bangalore with sort of scientists from all around the world came from [TS]
00:37:24 ◼ ► but I was hoping Professor Martin Poliakoff who is the chemist in my chemistry videos. [TS]
00:37:32 ◼ ► and one of his roles in that capacity was to make like the final speech at the end of the conference because he's got [TS]
00:37:46 ◼ ► and so I went along to help him make this video at the end something he could show [TS]
00:37:50 ◼ ► and you know finish the conference nicely Oh wait wait so you had to make a video about the conference while you were [TS]
00:38:00 ◼ ► OK this is an this is an easy thing for me obviously you know I'm a journalist and I had four [TS]
00:38:07 ◼ ► OK so anyway another I had an I had an idea at the last minute so I suggested to the professor he was on board with it [TS]
00:38:18 ◼ ► or five days of the conference you should just take a whole bunch of selfies just take selfies with everyone you make [TS]
00:38:35 ◼ ► but then I had to sort of as a second idea so it wasn't kind of introspective here we all are at the conference. [TS]
00:38:52 ◼ ► or professional scientists academics commercial whatever to send me selfies of themselves like in the lab [TS]
00:39:04 ◼ ► So the video had one component which was here at the conference having a great time here S O phase in the second [TS]
00:39:12 ◼ ► And Meanwhile elsewhere in the Commonwealth science is happening you know every minute every day sort of thing. [TS]
00:39:22 ◼ ► One the most one of the more interesting things to me was people's reaction to being asked for photos from around the [TS]
00:39:27 ◼ ► commonwealth which was very mixed and I can't and I haven't been able to fully interpret it [TS]
00:39:33 ◼ ► and you being Mr geography and Commonwealth and maps might be able to help me. Mix How so. [TS]
00:39:54 ◼ ► So I think this is an example of a time where you can ask which pictures from people from the Commonwealth. It would. [TS]
00:40:06 ◼ ► when the whole purpose was that this was sort of a celebration of silence around the commonwealth. [TS]
00:40:10 ◼ ► Yeah it would be like if America was having a science in all of the states conference [TS]
00:40:15 ◼ ► and people got angry because you're not accepting photographs from everywhere else in the world yes. [TS]
00:40:26 ◼ ► I also received an incredible number of pictures from people not in the Commonwealth clearly [TS]
00:40:36 ◼ ► and thought it was an excuse to send me a selfie that we're trying to sort of circumvent the rules [TS]
00:40:46 ◼ ► or people just don't know what the Commonwealth is and they just are not and I will come of this [TS]
00:40:59 ◼ ► I'm not sure how famous the Commonwealth is inside the commonwealth I think I think this is this is a bit of a bit of a [TS]
00:41:09 ◼ ► problem I would say at least in my experience teaching English kids with there was a huge amount of confusion about the [TS]
00:41:16 ◼ ► Commonwealth you know I really felt that there was there was a ton of confusion primarily about whether [TS]
00:41:25 ◼ ► or about just who was even in it at all I would say kids had some sort of dim notion that it was it was the British [TS]
00:41:39 ◼ ► and so I am I am not the least bit surprised that lots of people would be genuinely confused about whether they are in [TS]
00:41:51 ◼ ► and are saying John all of his excellent video that the Commonwealth Games which I highly recommend [TS]
00:42:00 ◼ ► Before everyone tells us to watch it and that I'm surprised the people in the Commonwealth wouldn't know that arena [TS]
00:42:06 ◼ ► and I think maybe this is betraying my astray Liam ness for a minute here because obviously I'm a Strat [TS]
00:42:12 ◼ ► and grew up in Australia and Australians are obsessed with sport and winning sport things [TS]
00:42:20 ◼ ► and obviously the Commonwealth Games was a chance every four years for us to win a bunch of sport stuff so the [TS]
00:42:26 ◼ ► Commonwealth Games is a really big deal in Australia and so you know this is a you know it's like it is like [TS]
00:42:35 ◼ ► So because the Commonwealth Games are such a big deal I think we sort of know what it is and who's in it [TS]
00:42:41 ◼ ► and what our chances of winning are because we're not going to have to bait this person because he's from America we [TS]
00:42:53 ◼ ► and their obsession with sport I may be more aware of it than some other Commonwealth countries that are not as sports [TS]
00:43:03 ◼ ► Are you putting out the the incredibly contentious statement that Australians are super into sports [TS]
00:43:09 ◼ ► and would therefore know all the nations they need to crush in the Commonwealth Games. [TS]
00:43:14 ◼ ► Yeah I don't think that's hugely can I get there I think it's seems quite likely that the average Australian might know [TS]
00:43:23 ◼ ► way more Commonwealth nations than a random citizen somewhere else in the Commonwealth. [TS]
00:43:33 ◼ ► I would back that because of the sport connection I mean that you know the Commonwealth of Nations is such a such a [TS]
00:43:48 ◼ ► and you know how we could be there we had that first paragraph which tries to some things. [TS]
00:43:53 ◼ ► And so here is the Wikipedia first paragraph or Commonwealth of Nations the Commonwealth of Nations. [TS]
00:44:00 ◼ ► Is an intergovernmental organization of fifty three member states that were mostly territories of the former British [TS]
00:44:07 ◼ ► Empire the Commonwealth operated by intergovernmental consensus of the member states organized through the Commonwealth [TS]
00:44:14 ◼ ► and non-governmental organizations organized through the Commonwealth foundation that is as clear as it's going to get [TS]
00:44:21 ◼ ► on what is it that the Commonwealth AG is that's pretty it's pretty dry as worse as the article goes on longer so it is [TS]
00:44:28 ◼ ► a bit hard of like what do you do. Commonwealth nothing about sport not in that first paragraph. [TS]
00:44:36 ◼ ► and it's an excuse to have a sporting event every four years in which you're more likely to win medals at the Olympics. [TS]
00:45:02 ◼ ► and enshrine the values in the Commonwealth charter which I'm sure you are well aware of since you are so into sports. [TS]
00:45:09 ◼ ► Oh yeah I actually have to come in with just a test so you don't know until I left. [TS]
00:45:20 ◼ ► All right I'm sure it's a riveting document I'm sure it is as well riveting and very important and widely. [TS]
00:45:28 ◼ ► So I met Prince Andrew the Queen's child most famous probably for being married to thirty [TS]
00:45:44 ◼ ► and stuff because he travels around a lot as this business envoy. I think that's unfair. [TS]
00:45:49 ◼ ► I have a lot of respect for the guy he goes to a lot of events that he doesn't have to go to for the good of his [TS]
00:45:58 ◼ ► country and the Commonwealth. So I don't want to bad mouth him but he would not pose for a selfie. [TS]
00:46:06 ◼ ► He actually said I don't do Sophie's So I got to hear him say selfie but he wouldn't. [TS]
00:46:15 ◼ ► But we did get some pictures and footage of him so he helped us out and looking at all the speeches [TS]
00:46:19 ◼ ► and things that man has to sit through and all the boring meetings he has to go to you know you can call him [TS]
00:46:25 ◼ ► and Miles Andy all you want you know he doesn't have to go to all those places you have to think of the royal family as [TS]
00:46:40 ◼ ► and they're a kind of diplomat who can who can be a little bit above the day to day for a lot of goings on in the [TS]
00:46:47 ◼ ► political world and like you said boring boring meetings and stuff I just I could never ever get through alive. [TS]
00:46:58 ◼ ► He is known for getting in an above average number of rounds of golf when he does visit these places. [TS]
00:47:04 ◼ ► He doesn't mind that you know he doesn't want to go. So anyway he's in the video but he wouldn't do a selfie. [TS]
00:47:11 ◼ ► He doesn't do Sophie's I bet he's been asked loads of times. Yeah I but the frequency of that request is going up. [TS]
00:47:17 ◼ ► Yeah exactly. Exactly he has to you know I think it's got to a point where public figures have to have a Sophie policy. [TS]
00:47:24 ◼ ► This episode of hello internet is brought to you by a brand new sponsor Braintree. [TS]
00:47:37 ◼ ► If you're a developer or a product manager searching for the right payment A.P.I. Check out Braintree. [TS]
00:47:42 ◼ ► It takes just minutes to integrate your payments with Braintree and if you don't have minutes just give them a call [TS]
00:47:47 ◼ ► and they'll even handle the integration for you and walk you through it with an actual live human person to talk to. [TS]
00:47:54 ◼ ► The Braintree code sports Android i O S and Java Script clients and they support payments of all kinds. [TS]
00:48:00 ◼ ► And Apple pay Pay Pal major credit cards and debit cards one hundred thirty global currencies [TS]
00:48:07 ◼ ► It's the most secure way to pay Braintree is known for their back and security and merchant protection. [TS]
00:48:18 ◼ ► and secure payment information so credit card info isn't passed on to the merchant server Braintree is the fastest [TS]
00:48:24 ◼ ► easiest most secure way to pay period. It's no surprise that Braintree is the payment A.P.I. [TS]
00:48:35 ◼ ► but these companies from early stage startups to the successful companies they are today. [TS]
00:48:42 ◼ ► If you're searching for the right payment platform check out Braintree at Braintree payments dot com slash podcast [TS]
00:49:02 ◼ ► and after you integrate with Braintree the first fifty thousand dollars in transactions are fee free. [TS]
00:49:08 ◼ ► So once again that's Braintree payments dot com slash podcast and we thank Braintree for their support. Hello Internet. [TS]
00:49:18 ◼ ► Well I received a very interesting e-mail yes from someone who watches some of my videos [TS]
00:49:27 ◼ ► and therefore saw the request for selfies but also tells me he's a big fan of hello internet. Let me call this up. [TS]
00:49:46 ◼ ► If you look out officially another lives though if you're trying not to say they know man he's an Anonymous. [TS]
00:50:11 ◼ ► and two forum he posted a picture of himself with kind of a cut lip it had a I think it had a drinking accident. [TS]
00:50:23 ◼ ► and that is considered the defining moment in the creation of the word Sophia is the thing everyone pins it. [TS]
00:50:32 ◼ ► and said you can use my Sophie if you want because you know how how I'm supposedly the guy who invented the word. [TS]
00:50:49 ◼ ► And he took me quite literally and wrote me a really long email back telling the story of how it happened [TS]
00:51:12 ◼ ► and I think that attitude was enhanced by his experience with think COTA the inventor of Sophie he he had he said [TS]
00:51:22 ◼ ► people like journalist were trying to contact his parents on Facebook and there was some ridiculous interviews [TS]
00:51:27 ◼ ► and they'd start interviewing him and he'd say well I didn't really invent and then that try [TS]
00:51:34 ◼ ► He had people investigating his past posts and trying to sort of analyze him and stuff like that [TS]
00:51:40 ◼ ► but basically I think the thing I took away from what he he took from a is that journalists are really lazy [TS]
00:51:47 ◼ ► and the media is a bunch of rubbish and I think that pretty much sums up your attitude to journalists as well so you [TS]
00:51:55 ◼ ► I can go along with the sentiment of that you know what's funny that even though he made. [TS]
00:52:00 ◼ ► So we're really clear that he didn't invent the word. He says I don't think I coined the word. [TS]
00:52:10 ◼ ► but it's such an obvious word whoever did invent it probably doesn't remember anyway so that's what he says. [TS]
00:52:19 ◼ ► and he probably didn't I still am calling him the guy that invented the word selfie for the sake of my anecdotes [TS]
00:52:24 ◼ ► and when I say get him out of Maine guess who listens to the podcast. The guy who invented the word selfie. [TS]
00:52:30 ◼ ► Yeah I think that's fair. I think that's totally fair. I feel like what is it in dictionary they have. [TS]
00:52:38 ◼ ► You'll see sometimes I feel like that's what this is that the dictionary is not saying oh whatever example they have is [TS]
00:52:56 ◼ ► CO I find it so funny because he wrote in one of the e-mails on MY GOD Brady e-mailed me I'm a huge fan especially the [TS]
00:53:07 ◼ ► He could not be more excited than I am and he about may I am the excited one here all right all right of the road. [TS]
00:53:15 ◼ ► Sophie get a room you do not with those clips of you saying the picture disgusting. [TS]
00:53:22 ◼ ► Things Hopi and it's nice to hear from you. And big opera star a member of the Commonwealth. [TS]
00:53:37 ◼ ► You have you heard of Raman spectroscopy you probably have been a science picture. Yes I have I have yes. [TS]
00:53:43 ◼ ► So this was I was invented by an Indian scientist Raman and he spent much of his career in Bangalore [TS]
00:54:00 ◼ ► Thinking are they going to be all these treasures from Rahman's life and we went there [TS]
00:54:05 ◼ ► and it was quite it was a very impressive collection of minerals and rocks over three [TS]
00:54:16 ◼ ► But I have to admit it wasn't what we expected we were hoping for more to do with the man himself [TS]
00:54:20 ◼ ► and to tell his story not just his rock collection that he left behind. It didn't feel like we connected with him. [TS]
00:54:31 ◼ ► So we're making a video and the professor was going along and talking about some of the items of interest [TS]
00:54:35 ◼ ► and why he collected this and why this piece of rock was interesting etc etc and we'd finished up [TS]
00:54:42 ◼ ► and we were just about to leave and this guy lucky the curator was a real rock hound [TS]
00:54:49 ◼ ► and showing this rock collection off was obviously you know it was a big deal to him he really enjoyed it [TS]
00:54:57 ◼ ► and then just as we were leaving there was like a stick in the corner of the room. [TS]
00:55:06 ◼ ► and he said Oh that was Rahman's walking stick that he used all his life that was his personal walking stick [TS]
00:55:32 ◼ ► and you hold a walking stick more than almost anything often walking sticks are really interesting things so anyway we [TS]
00:55:44 ◼ ► And then just as we were going to leave again Martin turned around and said to him what happened. [TS]
00:55:49 ◼ ► Rahman's Nobel Prize that he won he was I think he won the one hundred thirty Nobel Prize. [TS]
00:55:53 ◼ ► What happened to his prize and they go I said oh I've got that in a cupboard in my office. [TS]
00:56:00 ◼ ► What would you like to see that. After two hours of looking at rocks we were like we would like to see that. [TS]
00:56:06 ◼ ► Thank you very much. So he went to discover that the back of this thing is not on display. [TS]
00:56:19 ◼ ► and like the official certificate that he got given you know in Sweden with all that beautiful calligraphy one of a con [TS]
00:56:29 ◼ ► So it's so it's so this became clear this was how we were going to have to conduct the rest of this. [TS]
00:56:34 ◼ ► This filming that we just had to kind of interrogate this guy to find what other treasures he had like a locked locked [TS]
00:56:41 ◼ ► away that he didn't think were worthy of display that he didn't think it was nearly as interesting as rocks. [TS]
00:56:50 ◼ ► He had this tiny little pocket spectroscope he always kept in his coat like a little handheld thing like you know the [TS]
00:56:55 ◼ ► size of a pack of a lifesavers or something to look at flowers and things when he was walking around in gardens. [TS]
00:57:01 ◼ ► Another really intimate object that he always had on him so I had that locked in the cupboard away from do you put it [TS]
00:57:09 ◼ ► up there I let you go you can look at that too if you want I don't know why you don't want to just look at more rocks [TS]
00:57:16 ◼ ► when someone's too much of an expert in something it has too much of a passion for one thing they kind of you know [TS]
00:57:27 ◼ ► So I got to hold a Nobel Prize and I sent you a picture didn't I did he did. I said more glamorous than a GO button. [TS]
00:57:34 ◼ ► Yes I was impressed by your picture of you holding a Nobel Prize. They look good that suits you. [TS]
00:57:45 ◼ ► So while I was holding Roman's Nobel Prize medal I understand you have if you got your hands on a new Kindle [TS]
00:58:01 ◼ ► My my black because you going to go crazy now that I have some idea I have some thoughts on the Kindle. [TS]
00:58:08 ◼ ► First of all how come you've got a new Kindle now when Christmas is a question to speed up a Christmas present. Why. [TS]
00:58:22 ◼ ► but she doesn't need to get me anything I think I can get myself a Kindle it seems seems reasonable. [TS]
00:58:35 ◼ ► I don't know how successfully we always do them but we attempt to do Christmas presents [TS]
00:58:42 ◼ ► but yeah I you know I feel like there was a new Kindle out I wanted to see what it was like [TS]
00:58:50 ◼ ► and sold it at the end tell me what what's a coat is a got some name is it like the Zed X. [TS]
00:58:56 ◼ ► Three thousand hours of you know the Kindle was a call like some stupid name on the Kindle. [TS]
00:59:01 ◼ ► Ladies oh wow this is the one this is the one we were talking about a couple episodes ago I think which is called the [TS]
00:59:06 ◼ ► Kindle. They have to think about it really hard. It is called the Kindle voyage Yes I always want to call the Voyager. [TS]
00:59:15 ◼ ► That's it we can talk about how we better spend the next twenty minutes talking about Tech's justification [TS]
00:59:20 ◼ ► or OK OK OK I promise not to talk too much about text justification I can promise only the amount that it deserves [TS]
00:59:31 ◼ ► which is quite a lot but then again this is this is a record this podcast a little bit early [TS]
00:59:39 ◼ ► and so I'm working on a review of this can that which will probably be out before this podcast so just let the [TS]
00:59:44 ◼ ► but I think it's a good thing that I want to highlight here is not the justification of text which is terrible [TS]
00:59:54 ◼ ► It's like if I kept talking about humble brags at a certain point people just don't hear about that and you know my. [TS]
01:00:05 ◼ ► and I swear this device has single handedly made me doubt the entire Amazon company. [TS]
01:00:18 ◼ ► Take a look at this Kindle and it's like I don't know if Amazon is going to be around in a few years. [TS]
01:00:25 ◼ ► Really this thing is so terrible combined with a bunch of other stuff about Amazon as like it's like my whole world [TS]
01:00:32 ◼ ► view on Amazon has completely changed and there are many things that I don't like. [TS]
01:00:37 ◼ ► But let me just let me just try to narrow my focus to one thing. OK OK So here he is here's a little thing right. [TS]
01:00:46 ◼ ► One Kindles many generations ago they had this amazing feature which was a button that you could press to turn the page [TS]
01:00:56 ◼ ► and they had buttons on either side and they made a satisfying click sound and all was good. [TS]
01:01:03 ◼ ► That's a that's a pretty fundamental part of reading a book you might say it's a core feature for a reading experience. [TS]
01:01:11 ◼ ► Yes they play Woody Allen talk. Yeah it's like OK Number one can you see the words right. [TS]
01:01:25 ◼ ► So you're right it's probably second consecutive being able to read before I read here. Yeah. [TS]
01:01:37 ◼ ► and then the thing is made is nice to have something a bit tactile even though everything's going eighty's [TS]
01:01:44 ◼ ► And the selling point of the Kindle is like hey look we're not trying to be a general purpose tablet. [TS]
01:01:51 ◼ ► and so we can have a little button on the side where the i Pad is never going to have a little button on the side [TS]
01:02:00 ◼ ► As for inexplicable reasons they said you know those great buttons on the side that everybody loves which every of you [TS]
01:02:06 ◼ ► You know we're going to take those out and instead we're going to give you a touchscreen. OK That's awful. [TS]
01:02:12 ◼ ► That was the last candle that I had because I don't understand this at all but whatever. [TS]
01:02:20 ◼ ► Let me guess on this one you can't even see the world that's is like it is inches away from that right. [TS]
01:02:26 ◼ ► So OK so here's here's what they said like oh I know people loved that page tourney thing and everybody complained [TS]
01:02:51 ◼ ► and make a brand new input device on the bezel which I don't even know what they call it. [TS]
01:02:57 ◼ ► But here here imagine here is the user experience for this is like these regions on the side of the Kindle that you're [TS]
01:03:08 ◼ ► and pressing it against a completely immobile surface like a huge slab of marble on the floor of a palace [TS]
01:03:20 ◼ ► and in order to turn the page of your book instead of a nice click button instead you have to smoosh your thumb against [TS]
01:03:27 ◼ ► a completely rigid surface and when you have smudged it enough the page will turn. [TS]
01:03:33 ◼ ► So no give no sounds nice just it is it is baffling to me that it will it will do this bizarre little vibrate thing as [TS]
01:03:42 ◼ ► So every time you turn the page it goes right to let you know oh yes we have registered that you have compressed your [TS]
01:03:49 ◼ ► thumb hard enough against the side of our screen in order to turn the page it's just and like OK so I took this out. [TS]
01:03:57 ◼ ► Let's give this a fair shot. I really like. We want to love the Kindle. Soak it out. I load up a book on it. [TS]
01:04:03 ◼ ► I press the button once on this are not the button I Press T V A mobile slab on the side once [TS]
01:04:10 ◼ ► and I go like I swear to god it was physically uncomfortable and then it vibrates in the slicks in the startling way. [TS]
01:04:29 ◼ ► Why was there nobody who said hey you know be a good idea. A button like we used to do that everybody loved. [TS]
01:04:52 ◼ ► and so I thought like OK OK maybe my first experience with this is just horrible. Let me try to give it a good go. [TS]
01:05:02 ◼ ► So I sat out like OK I'm going to read for twenty minutes I'm going to use my Kindle I'm going to use a little button [TS]
01:05:07 ◼ ► thing that they want me to use on the side I could not make it twenty minutes using this thing because my son started [TS]
01:05:14 ◼ ► to get a little bit physically uncomfortable and I realized oh oh what this thing actually is. [TS]
01:05:24 ◼ ► That is the function that this thing serves like I can feel it's like I've had repetitive strain injury before you know [TS]
01:05:30 ◼ ► what like the warning signs are like it's like oh yes pressing my thumb several thousand times over the course of a [TS]
01:05:38 ◼ ► year against a completely rigid surface is going to give me repetitive strain injury guarantee it [TS]
01:05:51 ◼ ► It's just it's just so crazy that I feel like well well Amazon it's been a good run but I. [TS]
01:06:00 ◼ ► Think this is where we have to part ways. You've got to wonder whether we would have turned a Muslim had invented it. [TS]
01:06:08 ◼ ► but we'll put spikes all around the edge of it so it was really grippy on the road. [TS]
01:06:15 ◼ ► Because like when you're up in a star rating on your i Pad What will he go from here. [TS]
01:06:20 ◼ ► Yes So basically I was hoping to get this Amazon Kindle before my trip to Alabama. [TS]
01:06:39 ◼ ► but it's more a question of like OK well there's a solution which is not perfect for me but it's fine. [TS]
01:07:04 ◼ ► But like this physical piece of hardware demonstrates to me that you are just never going to do this. [TS]
01:07:11 ◼ ► It's almost like it's like asking someone to love you right like oh please Amazon please love me [TS]
01:07:17 ◼ ► and do the things that I want to write and they give you a turd in a bag and give you say at that point. [TS]
01:07:24 ◼ ► Well it's not really Amazon's fault it's your fault. Yeah and that's kind of how I feel at this moment. [TS]
01:07:32 ◼ ► This Kindle is just so awful so I ordered the return box almost immediately like I cannot believe this thing it's just [TS]
01:07:38 ◼ ► terrible Wow returning I wouldn't have if I don't like something I just put it in a shelf [TS]
01:07:42 ◼ ► and never use it you know she returned stuff. Well it's expensive enough that it's worth returning. [TS]
01:07:50 ◼ ► and then Amazon gets to keep my money I feel like I need to send a message like this this is this is too much. [TS]
01:07:55 ◼ ► Amazon is too much. I mean there's just a million things about it which are terrible. [TS]
01:08:00 ◼ ► But that button is just like the embodiment of terrible decisions which just makes me doubt the whole company is this [TS]
01:08:08 ◼ ► just is this is this just gray fussiness or have you been hearing other people talk about this [TS]
01:08:14 ◼ ► but in the same way I was I was curious because I was like Is this just me do I have a defective one. [TS]
01:08:19 ◼ ► Change Settings on this which you can there's a whole bunch of settings you can try to change is a whole bunch of [TS]
01:08:25 ◼ ► but universally It has been panned I haven't seen anybody who's written any kind of review that says that they like it [TS]
01:08:31 ◼ ► but if you if you ever are in a store and see one of these things just touch it once [TS]
01:08:35 ◼ ► and it's like it's just terrible it's lame I will put a thumbtack on the edge of the screen [TS]
01:08:41 ◼ ► and say Oh you do this to turn the page. It's just equally useless thinking Grayle what's going on. [TS]
01:08:52 ◼ ► What happened is that just some did one person think oh I never you know we've got to do something different if we [TS]
01:08:57 ◼ ► don't do something different will die and that this is a compulsion to do something different or. [TS]
01:09:02 ◼ ► Well here's an oath I try very hard when things seem strange to imagine what's happening in this other entity [TS]
01:09:17 ◼ ► or I cannot come up with any kind of rational reason for why they are behaving the way they are [TS]
01:09:24 ◼ ► but I tweeted their last bizarre product announcements which was that Amazon echo thing that is the infamous freakiest [TS]
01:09:31 ◼ ► weirdest promotional video I've ever seen I don't know what's going on so I'm going to say that that for me the Kindle [TS]
01:09:52 ◼ ► and it's just like unusably awful is just terrible terrible piece of equipment is like you can even use this with a [TS]
01:10:07 ◼ ► and strike three The Kindle is like these three things in a relatively short period of time just just seriously make me [TS]
01:10:15 ◼ ► The Echo thing for those who haven't seen the video I will put it in the in the show notes. [TS]
01:10:22 ◼ ► It is even the commercial is so awkward it's so painfully awkward someone watched it [TS]
01:10:30 ◼ ► and signed off on that someone said OK yes we are willing to release that to the public. [TS]
01:10:38 ◼ ► and you can all it is is it's basically Siri that plugs into your wall that isn't a phone that listens to you twenty [TS]
01:10:48 ◼ ► Yeah and you can ask it all the same questions that you can ask Siri. Set a timer. [TS]
01:10:53 ◼ ► How many cups in a quart or whatever you know there's like a minimally useful stuff but not anything shockingly useful. [TS]
01:11:01 ◼ ► It's like your phone can do all of this except that your phone is on you all the time. [TS]
01:11:13 ◼ ► and there's a little detail which again is one of these things with like somebody over there who just lost their mind. [TS]
01:11:19 ◼ ► So I have asked several people this when they watch the commercial I go what is the name of this product. [TS]
01:11:27 ◼ ► Everybody gives the same wrong answer because this little family in the commercial sets up this product which is called [TS]
01:11:38 ◼ ► when you set it up you have to give it a special name and it only listens to you after you say that name [TS]
01:11:45 ◼ ► Alexa I think and so then you have this commercial which is supposed to be selling a product [TS]
01:11:54 ◼ ► Yeah and they say the name of the product Amazon Echo may be five times and so everybody think. [TS]
01:12:03 ◼ ► But who could possibly like what person creating a commercial says how can we say the product name less. [TS]
01:12:11 ◼ ► How can we figure out how to make this more confusing. So it is like the echo is crazy. [TS]
01:12:21 ◼ ► and they keep selling it in this way like oh it's a specially designed for someone who makes books like have you seen [TS]
01:12:26 ◼ ► someone read a book. Have you ever read a book. Product is clearly not designed for anybody who reads books. [TS]
01:12:40 ◼ ► and you can even sell it now they've reduced it to one dollar to buy the phone it's just like it's embarrassing [TS]
01:12:45 ◼ ► and so these three things together I feel like I don't even feel safe having my digital books in Amazon's ecosystem. [TS]
01:12:55 ◼ ► and all the other problems they have is like I can't count on you to fix anything. [TS]
01:12:59 ◼ ► I don't feel good about buying books in your ecosystem anymore and I'm going to give up on trying to make you love me [TS]
01:13:08 ◼ ► and we need to separate so you know what the heck coming back for just a second. It's so funny. [TS]
01:13:15 ◼ ► If you had made that video and you said Brady I've just made a spoof video and I want you to watch. [TS]
01:13:38 ◼ ► That it's genuine it it's almost it has that like Saturday Night Live feel to it exactly like my family is just a [TS]
01:13:48 ◼ ► and one of the things I love is OK so again try trying to envision this product if you haven't seen the commercial it [TS]
01:13:54 ◼ ► is a black cylinder that spies on you that you have to plug into the wall. But even that seems like a joke. [TS]
01:14:00 ◼ ► I know it's like all they need is to give it a menacing red ring around the edge right. [TS]
01:14:09 ◼ ► But but then the whole like they keep they keep doing like point of view shots from the echo [TS]
01:14:15 ◼ ► and in the way they do the camera work. It also looks like a joke because it's like the echo pops up. [TS]
01:14:23 ◼ ► and the camera pans down so suddenly the Echo is in front of the camera like looming over them looking at them sleeping [TS]
01:14:36 ◼ ► and his wife will be in bed with the echo of yapping like yeah like that's where they're going or that [TS]
01:14:40 ◼ ► or the next scene is him going to be driving in the car and they show the echo like buckled into the passenger seat [TS]
01:14:45 ◼ ► or something like this just like you can't believe it's real and it's just awful to watch. It's awful to watch. [TS]
01:14:56 ◼ ► They've made it they've sold it they hired a team of people to make his god awful commercial. [TS]
01:15:03 ◼ ► and said let's let's let's run that on the internet like that is why people who give any money for making that people [TS]
01:15:10 ◼ ► were given money for that. Well I mean if those actors I feel like hey I was on I'll take your money. [TS]
01:15:17 ◼ ► and just say like we're going to get slaughtered on the Internet people are going to laugh at us nobody's going to buy [TS]
01:15:21 ◼ ► this ridiculous product because it doesn't serve any need for any human on the face of the earth. [TS]
01:15:28 ◼ ► But who should get this Amazon echo instead of just getting an Android phone. Nobody no one anywhere. [TS]
01:15:35 ◼ ► I will accept that if you make a good enough ad and trick me maybe I will think I need one. [TS]
01:15:42 ◼ ► Like people will buy anything if it's promoted well enough and well marketed and is made to look cool [TS]
01:15:48 ◼ ► but then they've made it they've made a product that I don't really want. Look even worse. [TS]
01:15:54 ◼ ► Yeah so I think an interesting exercise. I showed this to my wife like you have to watch that. [TS]
01:16:00 ◼ ► You're not going to believe this and I had to preface it with. It is not a joke. This is for real. [TS]
01:16:23 ◼ ► and to see how Apple tries to do a better job of convincing you that this thing will be useful. [TS]
01:16:32 ◼ ► Part of it is just look you can just quickly ask your phone what the weather is and it tells you. [TS]
01:16:36 ◼ ► And they also have a little emotional resonance part at the end of the Siri ad where they show oh I don't know a blind [TS]
01:16:43 ◼ ► person using their phone right like Apple always knows how to get you and them and they show it actually being. [TS]
01:16:51 ◼ ► and the interesting thing is that they show Siri doing probably eighty percent of the same things at the Amazon Echo [TS]
01:16:58 ◼ ► does but it's in a thirty second commercial and the Amazon echo thing is five minutes long [TS]
01:17:05 ◼ ► and in the Echo conference like it's the center of everything that's like this freak that's come into the house that [TS]
01:17:10 ◼ ► they're all coming to say and yeah like some girl my girl even says at one point you could Amazon echo R.S. [TS]
01:17:19 ◼ ► but really is that really like giving up if you start saying that your phone has really become part of the family. [TS]
01:17:39 ◼ ► It's like I said the family don't want a baby so if you if you buy this product you will become like them [TS]
01:17:45 ◼ ► or like one of the selling points is is the children can use it to passive aggressively make fun of each other [TS]
01:17:50 ◼ ► when there's like the daughter asks Alexa to define annoying like yeah that's a real selling point there Amazon people [TS]
01:17:57 ◼ ► people are oh I wish I wish. If I could I could turn it over to a machine making fun of my sibling. [TS]
01:18:08 ◼ ► But anyway all of this is why I think I was on it like I'm worried about you Amazon [TS]
01:18:13 ◼ ► but you know I'm going to keep buying all of my physical items from them because I don't like to go to stores [TS]
01:18:18 ◼ ► and they ship stuff to my door like they do that great of a man their whole their whole electronics ecosystem. [TS]
01:18:25 ◼ ► It just seems like it is in terrible terrible danger of whoever is running it and whoever is approving it. [TS]
01:18:42 ◼ ► Now I do admit this is maybe because they sent me a set and that's also because as some of you know C.D.P. [TS]
01:18:57 ◼ ► First they just make great products that sell the handle raises really good really nice feel to it. [TS]
01:19:07 ◼ ► Second I have a really cool branding all the packaging logos design is done really well it's kind of understated in [TS]
01:19:21 ◼ ► I'm not going to run through everything now but check out their excellent Web site for all the prices. [TS]
01:19:26 ◼ ► That's Harry's dot com lastly they're easy to use you just go online to that website. [TS]
01:19:32 ◼ ► Order what you want and as if by magic it appears at your door. This online shopping thing blows my mind. [TS]
01:19:41 ◼ ► Harries dot com Now in the build up to Christmas I got a really special deal that I want to tell you about. [TS]
01:19:47 ◼ ► Basically if you get in before the fourteenth of December which may be cutting out fine depending on [TS]
01:19:51 ◼ ► when you listen to this podcast you can get this set called the Winter Winston for five dollars less than usual. [TS]
01:20:02 ◼ ► The sale includes the razor the handle itself three replacement blades and achieve a vial of the foaming shave Joe [TS]
01:20:09 ◼ ► or shave cream depending on your lubricant of choice. Now go to Harry's dot com and enter the promo code. H. [TS]
01:20:31 ◼ ► Now even if you're already a customer who used to code before you can use this one again they probably thinking if I've [TS]
01:20:42 ◼ ► Well twenty fifth of December Christmas you may be under obligation to give someone a present [TS]
01:20:48 ◼ ► and if you're anything like me you might be thinking this would be a good present. [TS]
01:20:52 ◼ ► Really cool classy looking change that practical gift could be a good one. Check them out. [TS]
01:20:58 ◼ ► Harries dot com And thanks to them for sponsoring our show once more. Now let us talk about Star Wars. [TS]
01:21:13 ◼ ► Well this is we have already we haven't had this discussion yet but we've kind of half basically [TS]
01:21:19 ◼ ► when the new the new Star Wars trailer teaser trailer came out and did it come around Thanksgiving other on [TS]
01:21:30 ◼ ► and I both love Star Wars so I sort of said well obviously we're going to talk about this in the next podcast because [TS]
01:21:37 ◼ ► we're huge Star Wars fans and there's a new Star Wars teaser trailer. Yeah and I'm not I'm not I'm not up for this. [TS]
01:21:55 ◼ ► and partly because this film's not out for you and this is like a Take this is a take. [TS]
01:22:04 ◼ ► and he said I want what you sow before we before we thrash it presumably you still haven't watched it. [TS]
01:22:16 ◼ ► I you know I get you seem very insistent that I should watch this. Well first of all let me tell you what I think. [TS]
01:22:35 ◼ ► or spoil the film in some way even even the most subtle thing that doesn't tell explain the story gives some paces away [TS]
01:22:42 ◼ ► and you want to go into this film in December next year completely cold that that would be ideal. [TS]
01:22:50 ◼ ► Yes I think that I know you think that is the correct way to see a film and I respect that. But I think you're wrong. [TS]
01:23:01 ◼ ► I think trite I think teasers and trailers are part of the cinematic experience just as much as popcorn [TS]
01:23:12 ◼ ► and all the other all the other parts of films I don't think a film is just about the ninety minutes [TS]
01:23:21 ◼ ► I think trailers and hype and expectation and teases and things I don't think leaks [TS]
01:23:28 ◼ ► and spoilers as a part of the experience but I think a trailer made by the director [TS]
01:23:34 ◼ ► and released by the director who is in artistic control of this process he wants that to be part of the experience that [TS]
01:23:44 ◼ ► and I think you are denying yourself part of what the maker of this film wants you to experience. [TS]
01:23:51 ◼ ► I feel like I don't know who you are right now didn't have we had conversations where you agree that knowing anything [TS]
01:23:57 ◼ ► about the movie spoiled it that. There are new mailers are spoiler filled. I don't know why I feel right. [TS]
01:24:06 ◼ ► Insistent trailers are my favorite thing. Like I've mentioned before in the park as my dad used to be a film critic. [TS]
01:24:17 ◼ ► or twice a year they would get in all the trailers for the film and their little tiny special cinema [TS]
01:24:24 ◼ ► and you show him all the trailers for the films that were coming in and you just sit there for an hour [TS]
01:24:36 ◼ ► and people talk during the trailers I get really angry and shoot them dirty looks. [TS]
01:24:54 ◼ ► and if a trailer gives away the whole film it's probably a sign that it's a bad film anyway. [TS]
01:25:02 ◼ ► That's not what I'm saying I'm saying you should watch it and you said to me you said to me he doesn't have spoilers [TS]
01:25:11 ◼ ► and of course if it shows one frame of the film it contains spoilers to some extent so I'm not going to I'm not going [TS]
01:25:24 ◼ ► I'm not going to say it doesn't contain spoilers of course. Of course by its very nature it contains spoilers. [TS]
01:25:34 ◼ ► but I do think you should watch it if only because I so want to talk to you about it. [TS]
01:25:41 ◼ ► And I think we'll be talking about Star Wars for the next year before this film comes out [TS]
01:25:46 ◼ ► and I also think you're just making life difficult for yourself because people aspire you think people are talking [TS]
01:25:51 ◼ ► about it people analyzing it to death and you're going to get snippets here and there anyway. [TS]
01:26:00 ◼ ► Something happens you know and you may as well know what they're talking about I think you should watch it. [TS]
01:26:12 ◼ ► Brady I say that because it's against my better judgment I am going to follow your advice before you do that because I [TS]
01:26:24 ◼ ► you know I don't want to jeopardize that for an hour now you walk it back I mean I don't know if that's being a thing [TS]
01:26:29 ◼ ► to say well this is going to say this is this is it that's why this is an important moment. [TS]
01:26:33 ◼ ► Tell me what could happen when you watch it. That would make you upset with me. Spoilers. [TS]
01:26:42 ◼ ► but you're also telling me that I should watch it anyway so I am I am trusting your judgment that even though there [TS]
01:26:54 ◼ ► or a life where I have watched the trailer before seeing the movie is a better life than where I have not watched the [TS]
01:27:00 ◼ ► trailer before seeing the movie. It's a better life for me because I can talk to you about it. [TS]
01:27:06 ◼ ► And I like talking to you about stuff. But but let me you go you will be upset afterwards. [TS]
01:27:15 ◼ ► There are things that will be spoiled and you will grumble for a year about it and tell me that it was wrong [TS]
01:27:27 ◼ ► and I will have been the right thing to have done for you saying that I will be wrong about my opinion. [TS]
01:27:45 ◼ ► OK I'm going to I'm going to dim the lights in my recording because I'm going to make this like an event. [TS]
01:27:50 ◼ ► OK I've sent on a message. I'm bit nervous now but you should be and you should be all right. If you felt this way. [TS]
01:29:15 ◼ ► It's the deed is done. I'm here. Yeah yeah I know you're there and they are there. [TS]
01:29:38 ◼ ► I'm not sure what to think right now. I think I don't know just what you what you feeling. [TS]
01:29:48 ◼ ► First of all it's impossible not to be excited by Star Wars trailer. But you know it's like. It does. [TS]
01:30:00 ◼ ► As a matter of moments ago we were talking about Amazon and like on this this abused spouse [TS]
01:30:11 ◼ ► but with Star Wars it like I will always want Star Wars to love me as soon as you see the new trailers like all of that [TS]
01:30:26 ◼ ► I mean to be fair I was really excited by the Phantom Menace trailer and what happened there. [TS]
01:30:38 ◼ ► and this trailer is I have the same feeling like my heart is lifted by the Star Wars music. [TS]
01:30:46 ◼ ► It's impossible not to like watching the trailer even though it is definitely filled with things I would regard as [TS]
01:30:54 ◼ ► But OTOH I said that I said that I know but it's impossible not to be hopeful and I find myself filled with a new hope. [TS]
01:31:05 ◼ ► The next movie will be good and I do I do. I put some trust in J.J. Abrams So I. So before we talk a bit more about it. [TS]
01:31:18 ◼ ► You've watched it once. Yes. What's like your overall impression what's you feeling about it. [TS]
01:31:23 ◼ ► Like what like compared to what you expected because obviously for a week we've been talking about it you had no idea [TS]
01:31:32 ◼ ► Is it what you expected is it not what you expected is it better than you thought Is it worse. [TS]
01:31:38 ◼ ► Like it's what I would expect the first trailer to be very brief scenes of just things in the movie [TS]
01:31:44 ◼ ► and things you might be excited to see when they first pop up on screen but we're going to show you them right now. [TS]
01:31:48 ◼ ► You know that's that's that's what I kind of expect the first trailer to be I think you know it's it's about time that [TS]
01:31:56 ◼ ► they've gotten some hand guards on the lightsabers. I'll tell you that I had a little fun. [TS]
01:32:03 ◼ ► So these are amazing technological developments now having hand protectors for your lightsabers So I like that I'm a [TS]
01:32:12 ◼ ► It looked like there were just two coming out I might have more than just two. So you had a real like a disloyal. [TS]
01:32:17 ◼ ► Yeah like sensors had three hundred years ago. That's the kind of thing I might want. [TS]
01:32:22 ◼ ► I'm dangerous I think it looks like something you could you hand could slip up and touch very easily. [TS]
01:32:27 ◼ ► Well I have now of course now I have to go through and watch the trailer frame by frame [TS]
01:32:30 ◼ ► but it looks like there was a little bit of metal that your handle could bump up against I don't I'm sure that the [TS]
01:32:35 ◼ ► nerds have analyzed this quite quite in-depth well before before to give you my story within a few days before this was [TS]
01:32:45 ◼ ► released. I sort of didn't know it was about to be released but obviously most people did. [TS]
01:32:54 ◼ ► or sort of you know fan type trailers of what I hope the trailer would say and I also didn't know this was happening [TS]
01:33:04 ◼ ► and I got tricked into clicking on one of the fan made ones not knowing it was fan made and it was really good. [TS]
01:33:15 ◼ ► And I watched and I thought this is also this is going to be pretty and I was really really pleased [TS]
01:33:23 ◼ ► and there was something that didn't quite seem right that I can remember what it was [TS]
01:33:26 ◼ ► but it was there was enough to make me go into the comments and it very quickly became apparent that it was fake. [TS]
01:33:32 ◼ ► And I felt like they have a dish and like in hindsight you know there were probably lots of things I didn't realize [TS]
01:33:41 ◼ ► and then this one came out so I started watching not being entirely sure if I was watching a real one or not. [TS]
01:33:51 ◼ ► And I would have been more likely to have thought this one was fake then the first one I watched [TS]
01:33:57 ◼ ► and a lot of people be very positive of that. It's trailer and I'm less positive about it. [TS]
01:34:04 ◼ ► There are a few things about it I did like and like you I have supreme confidence in J.J. Abrams. [TS]
01:34:24 ◼ ► but there are a few things about this that are slightly out of me I don't know if you want to watch again there are [TS]
01:34:33 ◼ ► Well I don't know if you want to adapt a feeling of feeling very conflicted at this moment [TS]
01:34:39 ◼ ► and it's again it's a funny thing because I've been talking about these movies coming out in exchange [TS]
01:34:45 ◼ ► and I've been telling myself you'll go into these movies thinking that it's a kind of alternate universe that it's not [TS]
01:34:52 ◼ ► Star Wars and if you enjoy these movies you know that's great and then you know maybe they can be Star Wars [TS]
01:34:59 ◼ ► but go into it. Treat him as a kind of different different kind of movie like a rebirth. Yeah. [TS]
01:35:07 ◼ ► and again as soon as the trailer starts playing like in my heart of hearts like you know you can't do that you know [TS]
01:35:13 ◼ ► it's really Star Wars and you're going to go into it thinking that it's really Star Wars and so on [TS]
01:35:22 ◼ ► And it's not I don't want to be banned I understand it one of the things I worry about slightly is like I think I have [TS]
01:35:37 ◼ ► Yeah the new one the two thousand and nine Star Trek movie I think. Yeah that is by no means a perfect movie. [TS]
01:35:45 ◼ ► I do have problems with that movie but overall like that is that is an exciting movie [TS]
01:35:51 ◼ ► and I think I pulled off what was just an impossible task of making you really believe in. [TS]
01:36:00 ◼ ► In Star Trek making you believe in that world you know the casting was perfect everything about that was just great. [TS]
01:36:06 ◼ ► and I would have thought oh man whoever has to do the Star Trek reboot this project is just doomed no one can pull this [TS]
01:36:14 ◼ ► off successfully and I would say you know the movie has some minor flaws but overall that was a two thumbs up. [TS]
01:36:26 ◼ ► Abrams is doing the Star Wars because I feel the same thing that it's like this is an impossible situation. [TS]
01:36:42 ◼ ► So I am hopeful but now I would like to know what is it what is it about the trailer that you don't like. [TS]
01:36:48 ◼ ► Always is going to go through the same by saying and say oh I thought of saying you have a list of the six. [TS]
01:36:58 ◼ ► Yeah my very first thought watching the trailer is is helmet lifts stormtrooper. I don't know I don't know about this. [TS]
01:37:14 ◼ ► when that guy pops up into his screen that made me think it was a joke that actually made me think Saturday Night Live [TS]
01:37:21 ◼ ► like like you know you think everything's OK So when this is going to be a Star Wars and then some dude pops up like [TS]
01:37:34 ◼ ► I mean to be fair my assumption is that he's not a stormtrooper he's a guy in a stormtrooper outfit [TS]
01:37:40 ◼ ► and I think a lot of people have ashamed that you know the raid on the Death Star in a new hope with you know John [TS]
01:37:49 ◼ ► My first impression was when he pops up and gives you a scare and he's like got this startled look [TS]
01:38:03 ◼ ► I've moved on from that so that so that was that was my thought on that same the next st with the like that soccer ball [TS]
01:38:12 ◼ ► droid made me reinforced my thinking that it must be a joke because it's such a silly droid [TS]
01:38:20 ◼ ► and it's something we've never seen before so I was thinking Oh that's silly and I was pretty disappointed by that. [TS]
01:38:25 ◼ ► So it was in a way it was not from to the next st had those kind of troopers on our land coming down in stormy weather [TS]
01:38:35 ◼ ► and it was quite moody and that was quite good and that was more what I expect from J.J. [TS]
01:38:40 ◼ ► Abrams it's going to you know we're going to have some darkness and some lens flare [TS]
01:38:47 ◼ ► Yeah it's gritty and it's cold and people get themselves in a tizzy about stormtroopers vs clone troopers [TS]
01:38:54 ◼ ► and that makes me really upset because people don't understand the difference tween claim troopers and storm troopers. [TS]
01:39:00 ◼ ► This is getting into fan territory we don't need to go into every here for a while. [TS]
01:39:08 ◼ ► and that gives me hope that he's getting away from the George Lucas static boring shots [TS]
01:39:13 ◼ ► and we're going to have you know it's going to be modern filmmaking. Yet there was not a single couch in this trailer. [TS]
01:39:19 ◼ ► Yeah exactly so that was a Good then we have a woman getting on a spade in the desert [TS]
01:39:27 ◼ ► and that was pretty you know pretty typical Star Wars not sounds fun. I didn't lie. [TS]
01:39:32 ◼ ► I'm neutral on that shot and looks fine but what you really do need someone to talk to you watched [TS]
01:39:51 ◼ ► and it wasn't in the desert which relieved me because I don't want a whole film on top twenty No I shimming it's tech [TS]
01:39:57 ◼ ► twenty No I don't want a whole film on a desert planet right. That was cool that we had the light saber. [TS]
01:40:03 ◼ ► Then with a menacing character who I think we're all the shaming is a villain we don't know that he's wearing a hood [TS]
01:40:13 ◼ ► and part of that there is definitely a bit of metal that his hand can so that that the design thumbs up people have [TS]
01:40:25 ◼ ► And again it's a really cool saying I like the stormy weather and I like the way it's shot. [TS]
01:40:30 ◼ ► So that's good and then we have the Millennium Falcon at the end and a lot of people got very excited by the show [TS]
01:40:40 ◼ ► or I do not like it that the million Paquin should not be doing that in my opinion. [TS]
01:40:47 ◼ ► I know I know it does some pretty cool things in the asteroid belt and you know it's a pretty cool ship [TS]
01:40:52 ◼ ► and don't get me wrong it's my favorite ship in the world. No You know it's my favorite ship. [TS]
01:40:58 ◼ ► It just seems too nimble for me. Yeah I have had the same thought of many of you know really what it really is. [TS]
01:41:06 ◼ ► It's a bulky thing and it shouldn't be capable of such close quarters nimble flying [TS]
01:41:13 ◼ ► and people think it's great to see the Millennium Falcon really you know strutting that stuff [TS]
01:41:18 ◼ ► but I don't think the Millennium Falcon should be doing those kind of maneuvers in that way so I was not comfortable [TS]
01:41:24 ◼ ► and I hope the minium Falcon doesn't have its identity changed because obviously jobs is quite keen on the Millennium [TS]
01:41:40 ◼ ► but I hope he doesn't change it too much I like it is a big bulky freighter that you know you can you know you can it's [TS]
01:41:49 ◼ ► got some tricks up its sleeve in a very handy stuff when it has to be but let's not turn this into a little you know F. [TS]
01:42:00 ◼ ► The freighter and like you say is clunky doesn't handle the bass doesn't go to lightspeed immediately. [TS]
01:42:06 ◼ ► Yeah if it's if the Millennium Falcon is just doing all kinds of tight maneuvers like any fighter ship it's totally [TS]
01:42:14 ◼ ► uninteresting and we can have X. Wings doing this we have all kinds of other ships. [TS]
01:42:17 ◼ ► Look at the look at the design of that thing in a Humvee it's not supposed to be really nimble. Exactly. [TS]
01:42:24 ◼ ► And one final thought is a first for a film that's clearly going to be so expensive and so meticulously done. [TS]
01:42:32 ◼ ► I think the way the name of the film comes up against the Star Wars logo at the end is really amateurish [TS]
01:42:39 ◼ ► and crappy So it's not a surprise that got past some designers He said Yeah that's a good way to show the name of the [TS]
01:42:49 ◼ ► when it came up I had a moment of not being able to read it very well because I wasn't even sure what the name was [TS]
01:42:56 ◼ ► and it took it took a moment longer to read it because it does come up in a strange overlapped with the yellow where it [TS]
01:43:07 ◼ ► And it was another thing that made me think it was fake the first time I watched it I was like you know I know proper [TS]
01:43:12 ◼ ► film company would do so anyway they are there they're my thoughts but I still am excited about the film. [TS]
01:43:20 ◼ ► I'm sure be better than the rubbish that was served up to us for the for the prequels [TS]
01:43:25 ◼ ► but I was not you know I wasn't as enamored by the teaser trailer as some people were just I'm still feeling mixed [TS]
01:43:41 ◼ ► and I can already tell we're going to end up talking about this a whole a whole lot more offline than even just what [TS]
01:43:51 ◼ ► Considering your job to have to watch that I get so the thought of getting paid for to have my say. [TS]
01:44:04 ◼ ► You were never going to go a year with avoiding everything because people are going to make means unfunny jokes. [TS]
01:44:09 ◼ ► People have already released a George Lucas special edition of the trailer which you have to watch that that is crammed [TS]
01:44:16 ◼ ► more crap into every shot like you really ruined and no less it is not like OK as I will be able to enjoy the truth [TS]
01:44:25 ◼ ► Yeah I don't know that it's funny you mention the Millennium Falcon though the one thing again while in J.J. [TS]
01:44:35 ◼ ► One thing straight from the start which has worried me was even when the casting was announced [TS]
01:44:48 ◼ ► but I worry about how much of an inclusion of the old characters there's going to be like they released that photo [TS]
01:45:04 ◼ ► and everybody trying to do the criminology about where are they sitting you know who's most important depending on how [TS]
01:45:10 ◼ ► Abrams the sun king of this picture and I just I just worry that the old characters will will dominate it too much [TS]
01:45:22 ◼ ► when I hear the casting it's like oh God I know I don't know how much is it going to be these three particular people [TS]
01:45:32 ◼ ► I just I don't know that not all the things we want to take from the fact none of them are in the tazer a lot about us [TS]
01:45:49 ◼ ► when I was in the Millennium Falcon I got that was kind of reminding me of oh right that you know they're going to [TS]
01:45:54 ◼ ► bring back this ship and you know probably Han flying it again maybe you know who knows. [TS]
01:46:14 ◼ ► and still feel like that is one of my major concerns about the movie. But again I will trust J.J. [TS]
01:46:28 ◼ ► and will have more to talk about I know you are now is now going to say that we're done recording I'm going to watch as [TS]
01:46:34 ◼ ► And putting on a show right now but like now I can't wait to get off the phone with you OK OK. [TS]
01:46:45 ◼ ► and things like that as well there is one more thing I want to tell you about and I've kept a secret. [TS]
01:46:50 ◼ ► OK And I resisted putting anything on Twitter even though I know you avoid Twitter [TS]
01:46:55 ◼ ► and don't say things I twenty I didn't want you to see this. So I've I've kept a secret. [TS]
01:47:03 ◼ ► Last night I had dinner and spoke for hours with someone amazing. I'm just letting the moment hang OK. [TS]
01:47:18 ◼ ► OK Should I give you a clue who this person was. Well that was my phone not in airplane mode so ruining my moment. [TS]
01:47:32 ◼ ► and it's because of all our technical problems that I had on that I had an airplane loaded to send you a message so we [TS]
01:47:41 ◼ ► and what I actually know speaking of funds I'll send you a picture of me meeting this person that's how I will reveal [TS]
01:47:46 ◼ ► it to you. OK I'm just getting my phone because the pictures on my site and making me nervous here. [TS]
01:48:07 ◼ ► Then I hear that might they want to tell people what you look at the picture you're looking at is it is it is you in a [TS]
01:48:16 ◼ ► low to high. Yes smiling yes. With an elderly elderly gentleman who was also smiling. Yes who looks familiar. [TS]
01:48:29 ◼ ► How would you describe him. His appearance he has gray hair. Yes he looks like you. Plus fifty years. [TS]
01:48:36 ◼ ► Actually he's a lot bigger than me. He's looking down. Oh. How is it vater. Yes Oh wow. [TS]
01:48:53 ◼ ► I had dinner with the Veda David Prowse Oh wow well this was last night. Last not very cool and very cool indeed. [TS]
01:49:05 ◼ ► So it looks like Vader in fifty years. I don't mind being told that they are. And a former bodybuilder. [TS]
01:49:16 ◼ ► How did how did this come to happen it was a there was a fundraiser at Bristol I live on the edge of Bristol it was [TS]
01:49:28 ◼ ► and for various reasons nothing to do with me than to do with my wife I was set at like the prestigious top table [TS]
01:49:37 ◼ ► and again I don't know if that is because Word guy I was a Star Wars fan so I don't know if it was a coincidence mode [TS]
01:49:45 ◼ ► was because word got out that I was a Star Wars fan that I was put next to David Prowse [TS]
01:49:50 ◼ ► and his wife because he was like a guest of honor there of course he's a he's from the Bristol area [TS]
01:50:06 ◼ ► and I knew I was going to be there for the next few hours like you know you can imagine I was in heaven [TS]
01:50:15 ◼ ► and he introduced himself he was a completely lovely man completely lovely and his wife was completely charming [TS]
01:50:23 ◼ ► and I was introduced to him and I sort of said to him I'm going to tell you I'm a big Star Wars fan [TS]
01:50:30 ◼ ► but I said I promise you I won't talk about Star Wars too much and I think you and I don't like that. [TS]
01:50:36 ◼ ► Yeah well you can't avoid the topic and he said oh no it's no problems at all his wife kind of pulled me aside [TS]
01:50:42 ◼ ► and said Don't worry he completely loves it and I know so I said to him I broke that promise [TS]
01:50:51 ◼ ► The other promise I made to him at the start was I won't ask for your autograph because I already have your autograph. [TS]
01:51:00 ◼ ► I also broke that promise because that's how I ended up stealing his name tag at the end of the night that he was on [TS]
01:51:06 ◼ ► his on the seating next to us you know we have our names close like a wedding you have little names on tags and I [TS]
01:51:14 ◼ ► Please go on and I got him to sign that for me and also for his wife to sign hers from Mrs Veda. [TS]
01:51:21 ◼ ► She said it was the first time she'd ever been asked to sign her name so I said don't ever sign again so I've got the [TS]
01:51:33 ◼ ► So I spent I spent the night talking about Star Wars with data that is pretty cool [TS]
01:51:38 ◼ ► and brilliant You look so happy of this picture and I look like that right now talking about it was a perv. [TS]
01:51:51 ◼ ► and he just spends all his life now being Darth Vader you know going and signing autographs [TS]
01:52:00 ◼ ► Life is just a Star Wars now and it was brilliant it was brilliant. So they are very cool very cool. [TS]