◼ ► but I think it justified maybe like it vindicated my memory and you think it vindicated your memory. [TS]
◼ ► and if you only listen to my side of the conversation it definitely sounded like you were right. [TS]
◼ ► but trust me it makes him look not guilty we have very little follow up before we get to the business of penguins [TS]
◼ ► Yes we talked about a moment she and my ignorance of a mochi and to sort of set the record straight [TS]
◼ ► Everyone has been pointing out a video on the computer file Chano which of course is my channel [TS]
◼ ► but I must hasten to point out I did not make all the videos in fact I make hardly any of the videos on there [TS]
◼ ► It's run by my friend Sean and he made a video with Tom Scott all about M O G which I had watched some of to be fair [TS]
◼ ► but kind of had forgotten bits of it so never mind saying Brady How can you not know this you've got a whole video that [TS]
◼ ► you made about I have not made a video about a video was made about on my channel but not by me. [TS]
◼ ► and then forgot all the stuff to be fair though you could not possibly be expected to remember everything that has [TS]
◼ ► I guess it would have gotten to the point now where there are videos I completely have forgotten nation having made [TS]
◼ ► but I will also say that I am sometimes caught out slightly embarrassed in conversations for the same phenomenon where [TS]
◼ ► someone is asking me about a detail of something in my video and of course I have made vastly fewer videos than you [TS]
◼ ► and I find that my brain almost just dumps a huge amount of the knowledge I have acquired once the video making process [TS]
◼ ► or vaguely referencing one of my videos I will have to watch that video again because I can't remember all the stuff [TS]
◼ ► I remember putting together a video about how the primary election system works in the United States [TS]
◼ ► And today I couldn't hide confidently tell you very much about the details of how that works. [TS]
◼ ► and watched Oh I was going to thinking are you about to enlighten me on a process by which emoji are selected. [TS]
◼ ► I'm just going to recommend a fantastic computer file video featuring the brilliant I'm so it was a really good video [TS]
◼ ► Tom is very good you know I gather a lot of good ones but I still haven't gone back and watched it. [TS]
◼ ► We basically have a tiny segment now which is called half hour so we can have a segment that I can't pronounce grey you [TS]
◼ ► just make me look bad everywhere like half the raid half assed or a perfect perfect break don't don't overthink it. [TS]
◼ ► You're doing great. This isn't exactly half ass are you so much as just as just like a complaint that I want to. [TS]
◼ ► Only lodge with You Tube and it is there. I'm not exactly sure how new it is but it is there. Auto play feature now. [TS]
◼ ► Are you familiar with this new auto play feature on photo play was really on hold and then it went away [TS]
◼ ► and hasn't come back. Just different to what I'm thinking of you going to have to help me here. [TS]
◼ ► and what I believe they used to call auto play was if you link to a video that is in a playlist the You Tube will [TS]
◼ ► automatically play the next video in that playlist but it feels like within the past six weeks [TS]
◼ ► or so if someone sends you a youtube video and they say oh here watch you know watch this this funny cat video [TS]
◼ ► The instant that video is over youtube automatically starts playing another video then like if you like a ten second [TS]
◼ ► and I know that I have done it wrong almost every time because I think that the center of the circle has a little [TS]
◼ ► and say oh you know what I would love I would love every time I went to a youtube video it also showed me a random [TS]
◼ ► Gray video I think it's more likely than not the recommended next video will be another C.D.P. Gravity. [TS]
◼ ► when I have occasionally watched You Tube videos that have been produced by any of the people in our circle who make [TS]
◼ ► OK it's not like if I watch a smarter every day video the next one is a smarter every day videos Well it's it's bizarre. [TS]
◼ ► And they're using their you know who they're who knows whatever it is they're magic algorithm to select a video out of [TS]
◼ ► and You Tube sitting around smoking their cigars right in a dimly lit evil looking meeting room saying we need to [TS]
◼ ► I know let's make sure to randomly start playing videos at every possible opportunity and I will use [TS]
◼ ► but it will definitely at least double our view numbers which will also double our revenue. [TS]
◼ ► When I think of this feature that's how I imagine this went down in a meeting like I would love to hear from You Tube [TS]
◼ ► I can't I have a very hard time imagining a convincing argument for the whole of course I can [TS]
◼ ► and help them find the best possible content I can easily imagine what that lame answer will be. [TS]
◼ ► but their mouth would just be smelling like that's all it would be like oh God Can you please turn away. [TS]
◼ ► Show starting at the end of a show like because the screen shrinks and I say this is going to start in ten seconds [TS]
◼ ► It's very funny it's very funny that you mention this because I was actually going to use Netflix as the counterfactual [TS]
◼ ► and I actually really like their auto play feature when you're binge watching television of course right. [TS]
◼ ► I think that like that is nice that is exactly what I want to say hey guess what Netflix you are right I do want to [TS]
◼ ► watch the next episode of daredevil please just keep it playing on the screen like let's let's let's work our way [TS]
◼ ► I don't watch movies very often on Netflix so I don't know do they start playing a random movie [TS]
◼ ► and you've had a finale I feel like I want just a few seconds to absorb or maybe turn to my wife [TS]
◼ ► and talk about what just happened not not be sort of panicking trying to think oh no how can I stop the next one [TS]
◼ ► starting I don't want to say I don't want to catch the first few seconds of the next one because it might spoil [TS]
◼ ► something or ruin the moment bike and I can't believe you don't think that I can't believe. You don't think. [TS]
◼ ► Well at least let me make a simple command to say let's have the next episode done to shove it [TS]
◼ ► Yes Last night we did watch in my house a movie on Netflix and it did not auto recommend another movie [TS]
◼ ► and I need a little time to just recover to grieve if you can't you can't start playing Legally Blonde right away it's [TS]
◼ ► Is designed to be watched right in a row so I don't I don't have that feeling at the end of an individual television [TS]
◼ ► and I'm like oh I don't know what the facts would have started before I figured out how to work my Apple Remote [TS]
◼ ► Every everything about this to me is really funny because one I love the notion of the technological problem as being [TS]
◼ ► and I don't live my life like that where I'm almost always watching Netflix just on an i Pad with my headphones in so I [TS]
◼ ► can just reach out with my hand and exactly press the button that I want and there's none of this remote nonsense. [TS]
◼ ► We just have and i mac that functions as a television so it's just a big computer but you want to have remotes [TS]
◼ ► but I don't think Netflix are as evil as the way you should be doing it but I still think they haven't nailed it [TS]
◼ ► and I think you're being too kind on them I would say that the Netflix feature can be genuinely customer centric [TS]
◼ ► and you know that it is because they don't have ad numbers that they are potentially trying to inflate [TS]
◼ ► and as far as I can tell they are always showing you the next thing in a sequential series as opposed to You Tube which [TS]
◼ ► and as we have discussed many times has no concept of serial content no concept at all just two other minor points [TS]
◼ ► about why we are all we are talking about this that I just want to mention which when I originally set up my R.S.S. [TS]
◼ ► I had a huge number of people say Oh but don't you know on your youtube channel there's a there's an R.S.S. [TS]
◼ ► Feed that people can sign up for so they can be notified of of when you have a new video up. [TS]
◼ ► So I've heard from a lot of people who used to be tracking all of their videos from various channels in order with [TS]
◼ ► And apparently the subscription section on You Tube that people used to be able to go to to see all of the videos see [TS]
◼ ► It used to have a feature called collections where you could arrange a bunch of channels together to say oh I want to [TS]
◼ ► So here's crash course and here is periodic videos and he will be gray and I can see new ones from this group [TS]
◼ ► Saying that You Tube has also removed this feature so it's just it's so clear like piece by piece You Tube is taking [TS]
◼ ► away all of the little abilities for the user to control and keep track of their own viewing experience [TS]
◼ ► and I don't I don't like that I don't like that at all I just want to say to keep watching our videos on You Tube So [TS]
◼ ► Please don't send Brady and I tweets or e-mails about how you can turn off the youtube auto play feature. [TS]
◼ ► but there are many reasons why it won't work unless you're logged in or it's remembered your preferences [TS]
◼ ► or you use a different browser. So we're just complaining about it because we come across that kind of a lot. [TS]
◼ ► But yes I do know that you can turn it off but it is it cannot. You'll still run into it even if you try to avoid it. [TS]
◼ ► Yeah they've already been sent That's the problem I did it in the beginning so before we've already gotten them [TS]
◼ ► Email which actually I wouldn't want anyway because it would just double the e-mail about this week's episode of hello [TS]
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◼ ► Rood We finally had a long awaited Star Wars penguin Bristol Zoo David Prowse mate. Hello Internet. [TS]
◼ ► and only a small number of people with and of the risk of being a bit mean to the people who wanted to come [TS]
◼ ► but didn't get tickets I think we should talk about what a fun day we had to tell people a bit about it. [TS]
◼ ► There were like forty people there all told you about a lot more people wanted to come who didn't get tickets. [TS]
◼ ► OK I guess if we're looking at the set of people who wanted to come versus the set of people who came it was a small [TS]
◼ ► But I'm thinking of it from the perspective of oh you and I right we should we show up at the zoo [TS]
◼ ► and there's a crowd of forty people standing around that's a lot of people I guess. I live near Bristol. Yes you do. [TS]
◼ ► You came up on the train you in your life you came up and then and met with met with us and we went for lunch [TS]
◼ ► and you you got to say it I was very impressed with the Clifton Suspension Bridge you look very nice even though half [TS]
◼ ► of it was under renovation at the time you took a photo were you doing that just to sort of to human made to make me [TS]
◼ ► and they have to you have to remember the day because this is this is the thing you need the photographs otherwise [TS]
◼ ► That's true I'll be sad and cry he never came to the bridge and you can say yes I did and I'll be I know you didn't [TS]
◼ ► I do this all the time and they take pictures of stuff just to remember that it happened at some point. [TS]
◼ ► Oh and I want to get us on the bridge and it was it was the world's most lovely day to walk across the bridge [TS]
◼ ► and he gave us all the special little talk about the penguins because this whole day was raising money for African [TS]
◼ ► penguins conservation of them which is done and down in South Africa and at that point the first surprise. [TS]
◼ ► As of the day was sprung upon you you know I like surprises you like surprises and you like being given objects [TS]
◼ ► You had sneakily arranged for a penguin to be named after me at the zoo is that the best way to describe how this came [TS]
◼ ► out I was I was almost overwhelmed and confused when it happened and I was trying to think who did this [TS]
◼ ► Well I suggest it's it's actually very unusual for animals at the zoo to be formally named And I think any one of two [TS]
◼ ► but because we've managed to with the help of our viewers raise so much money for the conservation of penguins [TS]
◼ ► and because maybe they just thought we would NASCAR The zoo said OK we will we want to quit going to name a penguin [TS]
◼ ► C.D.P. Grey and they had a couple of newborn chicks so I went along on the first day before and said. [TS]
◼ ► Let's get some photos and video footage of the penguin So when Gray finds out I can put a video on You Tube [TS]
◼ ► or a blog and we can you know show everyone what the penguin looks like so I went along to the zoo [TS]
◼ ► and the decision was made so easy by the fact that there was one big fat very grey fluffy penguin coat grey with a grey [TS]
◼ ► So I said I'm going to use that one the other penguin having adventures is informally named Well that's not the case [TS]
◼ ► You need binoculars are very good vision to say because the tags are very small so that is you [TS]
◼ ► and that's going to be officially amended to have your name on it so it becomes the real deal [TS]
◼ ► but the thing I didn't tell you and the thing I found is we don't actually know what gender C.D.P. [TS]
◼ ► Gray and that is not something you will find until it has its six monthly health check when they take a sample [TS]
◼ ► So in about four months time we will find out if C.G. P. Gray The penguin is a boy or a girl. [TS]
◼ ► Not such a great penguin luck is a moment when you say they do with science they do it with a D.N.A. [TS]
◼ ► I think so I think that they take a bit of blood and they also take like Feather samples and they do it with. [TS]
◼ ► So I'm presuming that just yet. I must just today and I you know about chicken sexers. Yes. What do they do. [TS]
◼ ► and there are some very funny videos of chicken sexers at work picking up chickens very quickly pulling up some [TS]
◼ ► feathers and then putting them in a pile whether they are the whether they are male chickens [TS]
◼ ► or whether they are female chickens so I thought that I thought I'd do that with the penguins [TS]
◼ ► but I think they like to touch them as little as possible and I keep keep it real I'm sure C.D.P. [TS]
◼ ► Gray the penguin would also prefer to be touched as little as possible. Yes So people go to the show no spot hopefully. [TS]
◼ ► TIME In this case I will got my act together probably with gray and will have pictures available [TS]
◼ ► But the challenge I want to throw down is I want people to go to a priest and take their own pictures [TS]
◼ ► or have a selfie with scenes of the grave the penguin in the background and if you do that and sort of Twitter [TS]
◼ ► but even once you're there this is this is people going to be the hardest Where's Waldo ever especially [TS]
◼ ► and looks like all the other penguins at the moment he's quite unique because he's fluffy yatra [TS]
◼ ► and white you're right that's going to be that's going to Hardcore is basically the challenge is on easy mode now [TS]
◼ ► but in so if you want to practice while it's easy now is the time to go and then you can go later [TS]
◼ ► and show off your amazing penguin identifying skills later on because they did say the zookeeper did say that all of [TS]
◼ ► and so maybe maybe someone when you see to be grey as an adult can find him or her and take a picture [TS]
◼ ► Do you feel any kind of attachment or bond lucky you know curious about sort of this penguin's future [TS]
◼ ► or anything so this is this is the craziest of the crazy irrational thing that does work I think. Oh yes. [TS]
◼ ► For nonsensical reasons I do feel like I hope that penguin turns out OK I hope he has a great life in the zoo [TS]
◼ ► I don't know if they do that I don't I don't think that will happen to that Penguin it could get transferred to an. [TS]
◼ ► OK but I don't think they would really set a lot of time I don't even know I'm talking about. [TS]
◼ ► I feel like the bigger the penguin would vastly prefer the easy zoo life then living in South Africa. [TS]
◼ ► I have already told them that I want to go to London film the six month health check up when they do two thousand [TS]
◼ ► and do extra updates for the patron supporters so if you follow how the Internet unpatriotic you will occasionally get [TS]
◼ ► Maybe because I think only those people are kind of interested enough to be subjected to such minutiae of their life I [TS]
◼ ► I was more I was more flattered than I expected to be and I was and it was a very nice if quite surprising and [TS]
◼ ► and slightly derailing for a few moments thing to have done to me so thank you very much for that Brady [TS]
◼ ► Did you have to tell your family that OK so I did tell my my family about it and particularly [TS]
◼ ► when I was telling my parents the very first question out of their mouth was why didn't Brady get a penguin. [TS]
◼ ► Well I'll tell you why I am more than happy for you to have the penguin because I find that far more amusing [TS]
◼ ► Because later in the day the zoo actually did spring a surprise back on me and it wasn't that I've named a line [TS]
◼ ► I think it's called something like Poly or something of that Polly the penguin that they made a special exception [TS]
◼ ► and I can see it's not even I haven't adoptions to figure out which which I'm holding in front of me [TS]
◼ ► You may have a penguin but I kind of have I have a daughter I have the adoption of you say everyone was a winner [TS]
◼ ► and everyone came away with a little certificate I will keep mine and probably display it in some way. [TS]
◼ ► What Grey would do with his. Well you know who knows who knows if he even still has it but I'm sure he does. [TS]
◼ ► It is in my wife's handbag as we speak how she's going to carry everywhere shooting like maybe that's the plan I don't [TS]
◼ ► know maybe no Anyway you're out. Anyway it was it was a really fun little moment it was really good with an O.L. [TS]
◼ ► and like to talk to everyone about penguins while they were feeding them fish and stuff like that. C.D.P. [TS]
◼ ► and here she decided that the corner was the best place to be the corner behind a bush. Basically by himself. [TS]
◼ ► and yet I felt strangely proud like I was like oh wow like we are real thing now because a zoo keeper sent us to a [TS]
◼ ► and I had never really was that whole this whole thing together I mean the day you you made the day happen [TS]
◼ ► and loathe you should you should take part of this is a magazine you did all the organizing are just part of your [TS]
◼ ► instructions and gave a few tips and said it will be funny if you named a penguin after Grey and stuff like that. [TS]
◼ ► So anyway now all of this time by the way not only will be joined by thirty to forty hello internet listeners we were [TS]
◼ ► joined by David Prowse so he wasn't just going to sworn in at the end he actually came in listen to the talks [TS]
◼ ► It was great I got a chance to to shake the hand of a man who has crushed many people's throats through telekinesis. [TS]
◼ ► So from the from the in the penguin enclosure although it was a beautiful day we did put all kind of nerdy people [TS]
◼ ► So we we went into a little nice little sort of Education Center I have to say with that set up a little makeshift [TS]
◼ ► We were given some biscuits and some tea and we hung out a bit and then we all took S.A.T.'s [TS]
◼ ► and it was time to watch it was time to watch Star Wars Episode four A New Hope with the IN THE AUDIENCE Yes. [TS]
◼ ► Now I want to I want to say something about this film. We're watching Star Wars. We're sitting down the lights are off. [TS]
◼ ► when we were talking about originally we were going to be watching Star Wars one of my initial concerns was which [TS]
◼ ► version of Star Wars are we going to watch it is you just going to handle this how is this going to work [TS]
◼ ► So for people who may be unaware that the specialized editions are this kind of amazing amazing piece of work where I [TS]
◼ ► and done their best to collect as much of the original footage that has been made available from Lucas film from the [TS]
◼ ► but also take out all of the George Lucas special edition nonsense stuff that was added in the late ninety's I think it [TS]
◼ ► Well there are a few different special editions where it was kind of the meddling was kind of done in stages. [TS]
◼ ► but I can tell you that if I was if I was in charge of the government I would give the people who have done those D. [TS]
◼ ► It's an amazing it's an amazing piece of work to see the only thing that's a little bit weird about watching them is [TS]
◼ ► High resolution footage if they weren't able to get a couple of shots in high resolution because the only high [TS]
◼ ► but these specialized editions so in my defense a gray You didn't even have to tell me this. [TS]
◼ ► and you were like of course you were like I felt like you were a bit proud of me like I said we're going to we're going [TS]
◼ ► and taken the bull by the horns I had already discussed this with you. Like I was I was all over this. [TS]
◼ ► I didn't need to be told this to either of the two of us I would probably say that you are the bigger Star Wars fan I [TS]
◼ ► And we discussed this many times I think it's because you're like you are slightly older than I am I never did you did [TS]
◼ ► you see them in the theaters or not I don't remember I saw the only one I saw in the theater was Return of the jet. [TS]
◼ ► OK they have that would make sense. Yeah I never saw any of them in the theater I only ever saw them on on V.H.S. [TS]
◼ ► As a kid yet. So but anyway. Anyway this is this is all to the side so I had to given you the D. [TS]
◼ ► and then you specialized isn't too busy we need to get you to actually give it to me quite a long time ago like almost [TS]
◼ ► and then I think the day before the zoo I gave it to you again just to make sure I was like oh my God we got to watch [TS]
◼ ► the specialized addition you send to me again but I said Don't worry I've already give it to them [TS]
◼ ► but I sent it to them I said this is the one to show they said it will have a daily days back up [TS]
◼ ► I said make sure this works played up on the big screen first if there's a problem that we know will bring on a year [TS]
◼ ► especially you know this is a very particular version we want to show and I would I would say I did. [TS]
◼ ► or would you say I'm absolutely sure the zookeepers are like OK nerds like you don't know why you're being so picky [TS]
◼ ► about this but whatever guys. Yeah but this is basically the nerd equivalent of like there can be no green M. [TS]
◼ ► when we start to watch the movie suddenly there is a moment where there are stormtroopers writing dinosaurs basically I [TS]
◼ ► but I was I was I was confused because I thought wait it's been a long time since I watched that the specialized [TS]
◼ ► addition where there are some shots that they just couldn't get any They couldn't get clear versions of [TS]
◼ ► and so were there a couple the shots with specialized stuff and if I had to destroy their arms in the air [TS]
◼ ► but there's also a couple of shots where I'm thinking no I know that one Lucas put extra crap in [TS]
◼ ► So do I just badly remember the do you specialize edition I basically was having a kind of anxiety attack in the back [TS]
◼ ► Am I just misremembering I thought the specialisation was the greatest thing that humanity has ever produced. [TS]
◼ ► You were giving out medals a minute ago. I know and then I was like do I just do I does not remember it. [TS]
◼ ► In particular there's a thing like there's one shot where R two D two is hiding in a cave and I know for a fact C.G.I. [TS]
◼ ► Rocks were put all in front of him in a way that makes no sense. But that wasn't in this version. [TS]
◼ ► but as it was going on it became more and more clear especially when a dinosaur walks in front of the screen [TS]
◼ ► and literally blocks out the entire frame for a couple of seconds I was like OK No this is definitely the special [TS]
◼ ► It's a special edition and if I don't know how this happened and I thought I gave I gave Brady the file [TS]
◼ ► and I know great like Brady passes on I thought oh my God I have made a terrible mistake like well you know what did I [TS]
◼ ► And I'm trying to pull out my phone and look on Dropbox to see like which version of the file that I give [TS]
◼ ► but you live on like the outer rim planet so you have no cell phone connection anywhere in that whole town as far as I [TS]
◼ ► Job at the Hyatt and steps on his tail and there's like a squeaky sound when he steps on a step and I swear [TS]
◼ ► and not also watch that absolutely horrible horrible scene doubting myself and I thought I somehow messed this up. [TS]
◼ ► And all I was thinking of is is one of our earlier conversations where I talk about how I don't have any regrets. [TS]
◼ ► I made people watch the specialized addition not only that I made David Prowse Darth Vader himself watch the [TS]
◼ ► specialized addition and if it couldn't be any worse to add one additional dagger into my heart. [TS]
◼ ► There were three people with us that day who had never seen Star Wars absolute Star Wars virgins [TS]
◼ ► and I did have a like a bit of a moment not least of all because I've told people before the screening that we were [TS]
◼ ► I'd kind of brag that way we've got to control this and then we show them that some of those nonsense things [TS]
◼ ► After I got over the initial shock I didn't I didn't take quite as badly as you said he was a cock up of some scale [TS]
◼ ► but the thing that is amazing is the movie from my opinion that it still shines through the Special Edition. [TS]
◼ ► There's one thing that I wonder if I've occasionally heard that that younger people cannot tell the difference between [TS]
◼ ► and the prequel Star Wars movies which is always horrifying to me whenever I hear this that there's this kind of no [TS]
◼ ► Well as we're watching the specialized addition I thought ha I can kind of understand maybe why that would happen. [TS]
◼ ► Because everything that has been added in the specialized version is like the same kind of just childish [TS]
◼ ► or distracting stuff that is all over the screen that just doesn't need to be there that doesn't add anything to the [TS]
◼ ► and thinking yeah I could see how the tone of these movies is much less different if you're watching the specialized [TS]
◼ ► and I would really curious for feedback of people who've seen that is the first time they do do they notice all of this [TS]
◼ ► and see what you know what do they think of the special the special version versus the D specialize edition why does it [TS]
◼ ► make as much of a difference as I feel that it makes or what I actually I almost don't want to admit [TS]
◼ ► but it's possibly quite likely. Am I just extremely sensitive to the changes because I love you. [TS]
◼ ► Well I would just be really curious to know I'm going to say to my credit first mind I knew it was the wrong edition [TS]
◼ ► Like you I was thinking did the special that did the deed specializes you know have to make some compromises [TS]
◼ ► but I knew something was wrong very quickly. So I'm going to say that to my credit to big myself up as a stylus fan. [TS]
◼ ► So I'm thinking oh I'm Mr Starr I was here I for that but just to bring things back down to earth for everyone [TS]
◼ ► and I'm sure people have guessed this by now already. It was May he cocked up spectacularly. [TS]
◼ ► I supplied the wrong file because after the film I went up and checked it they put a D.V.D. [TS]
◼ ► and then it occurred to me what I've done wrong what we were talking about in the car afterward [TS]
◼ ► and you realized that you had done a Spotlight search for Star Wars and dragged over a file [TS]
◼ ► and apparently you you have a copy of the special edition which is which is amazing to me. All this is. I don't mind. [TS]
◼ ► He watched it enough that spotlight thinks it is the version you want oh no that's not saying that's not the case. [TS]
◼ ► but I imagine I had the specialized addition once when I very quickly made a Star Wars sane for research purposes [TS]
◼ ► Yeah that's the only reason I have to do specialized addition is as well I need it for research for fair use research [TS]
◼ ► but funnily enough as idle as I look back over the mistakes I've made there was an opportunity to pick this mistake up [TS]
◼ ► like an episode of air crash investigation where you look back over the things that went wrong [TS]
◼ ► or something while it could've difference which I did have that moment where I could have saved the day because I did [TS]
◼ ► What does this video even play it in the end credits there is the stop there and obvious aims in the middle. [TS]
◼ ► and by coincidence it was the scene where Han Solo has his little interaction with Greta in the canteen of all the nice [TS]
◼ ► outline so I watched and thought I can let's watch to see if the shooting say the shooting happened [TS]
◼ ► and the shooting happened and I had that you know extra blast that was added were great I shot first [TS]
◼ ► and I was like oh yeah so in the day specialist EDITION. That's that's what was that's interesting I never knew that. [TS]
◼ ► So after telling everyone beforehand that I got a good addition and telling gray and that I stuffed up. [TS]
◼ ► So this is my public apology it's my mia culpa. It was entirely my fault. It was not my intention. [TS]
◼ ► but they say sorry Gray sorry sorry everyone I want to be clear I'm not going to let you take one hundred percent of [TS]
◼ ► Initially when I found out it was it was you I thought I had this huge like all thank God sigh of relief. [TS]
◼ ► But later on I decided no no no I should have handled it the same way that I did and a lot of moments [TS]
◼ ► when you're teaching where everybody triple check stuff and so I thought I should have checked the file as well. [TS]
◼ ► I should have had a back up. So this is also partly my fault I will not let you take one hundred percent of the blade. [TS]
◼ ► but you can have you can you can have five percent you can have five percent of the blind makes you feel better so I [TS]
◼ ► will take forty percent of the time. Afterwards the man himself comes up the movie has ended. [TS]
◼ ► when Darth Vader steps stepped onto the starship everybody spontaneously just let out a big clap except I think you [TS]
◼ ► Life just goes in the room doesn't mean that it is not that bad a buddy but Darth Vader is awesome I have that [TS]
◼ ► but that was my absolute favorite moment of the whole day is Darth Vader coming on screen is like the man himself is [TS]
◼ ► sitting here and everybody except Brady cheered and yes you're right you know booing is totally fine here [TS]
◼ ► but he said it sounded like was only the second time he'd watched the whole film from start to finish. [TS]
◼ ► and I'm not sure I one hundred percent believe this I mean you know I can imagine maybe he's just watched infractions [TS]
◼ ► like a million times and it doesn't ever watch it from start to finish but that is quite possible actually. [TS]
◼ ► But anyway that's what he said and you know we'll take it as our exclusive exclusive law and our public policy will be. [TS]
◼ ► and savor because they were the lucky ones to be there and then he posed for a bunch of selfies and. [TS]
◼ ► I saw your wife went up and got a selfie with the man I noticed it was it was it was great you [TS]
◼ ► Definitely I was going to miss that opportunity now and then and then once once David had done his duty for for this [TS]
◼ ► and for us he was able to depart and your OK speeding off in his tie fighter however you want to imagine. [TS]
◼ ► My favorite part of the day was earlier on when there was a bit like a traffic jam and we were outside [TS]
◼ ► and David was following me on like he had this motorized scooter because he's got a leg injury [TS]
◼ ► and it was like I was being followed by death later in a tie fighter stay on target stay on target. [TS]
◼ ► We're very grateful to them and then we had a chance to hang out with people and also do some selfies [TS]
◼ ► and we did say we're going to do some signatures and I thought we might have to sign a few posters [TS]
◼ ► and things like that. What I did not expect was the incredible amount of technology we were asked to sign. [TS]
◼ ► By my count I signed two candles one with a keyboard and one the beloved paper white three i Pads and five [TS]
◼ ► When someone hands you their phone I remember this in Alabama as they oh you know ha ha ha you know one [TS]
◼ ► or two people had a sign sign phones but then to have a line of people who are holding their i Pads or phones. [TS]
◼ ► This is this is a lot of pressure not to mess this up to do a good signature because already I don't know I must mess [TS]
◼ ► Yeah yeah if I have a I have a video of me doing a time lapse of signing stuff assigning posters [TS]
◼ ► One out of ten or so you can see that I have to like been the poster because I apparently can't sign my own name. [TS]
◼ ► When is that while there you know we have seven i Devices that you need to sign in a row you need to get it right it [TS]
◼ ► has to be done right it's usually preferable I'm happy to do it. Point is that a lot of stress. [TS]
◼ ► Yeah it's a lot of stress so I felt relief every time someone came up with a post it was a bit like thank God I'm not [TS]
◼ ► going to accidently ruin possibly one of the most important technological devices in your life with my terrible [TS]
◼ ► signature I felt like a bit of a pretender sun in the candle I think it was clearly a cake because your the your the [TS]
◼ ► famous Kindle complained and they got you to sign and then they're like Brady we use on my Kindle to OK [TS]
◼ ► but anyway I did it he got it you gotta catch em all you gotta catch em all you need both signatures. [TS]
◼ ► People came from very far and we appreciate all that but it's only someone came from Italy. [TS]
◼ ► There was someone from Boston as well it was I was I was doing my best all day long to try to try [TS]
◼ ► and that was is genuinely nice I mean as I kept saying to everybody on the day it is also just a kind of very strange [TS]
◼ ► experience from my perspective but it was it was it was really good to be able to meet people and say hi [TS]
◼ ► and I really I really like the whole format of the day of oh we have stuff to do like like we're just a group of people [TS]
◼ ► and we're going to the zoo and we're going to look at penguins and now we're going to watch a movie. [TS]
◼ ► and I felt for me anyway it made it much more natural to just kind of talk to people as as we're walking around [TS]
◼ ► and doing stuff in the day so I had a I had a pretty good time but I was very exhausted by the time it was over. Yes. [TS]
◼ ► I don't live in Bristol in Cyprus till he came back to to my place because he was you decide to spend the night in this [TS]
◼ ► part of the world so yes you stayed at a house and you got to meet Audrey. Yes I stated chateau hire and he did. [TS]
◼ ► or too upset to talk just now no I was going to you my dear. I like some savage days everyone touches and pats. [TS]
◼ ► but I feel that with dogs I don't want to bother them right if she wants to come up that's perfectly fine [TS]
◼ ► when she's lying on her doggie bed of a dog is lying on their little doggie bed that should be a safe space for them. [TS]
◼ ► They should always feel safe in a little doggie beds more than made up for it with the amount of touching of a tree [TS]
◼ ► that I could Audrey however is a very very friendly super happy little dog that I was very happy to pick up [TS]
◼ ► and it was very exciting to me the trick so that was that was also a high point of the trip. [TS]
◼ ► I kind of felt that you hoped Audrey a bit from your wife because you know what like to a tree [TS]
◼ ► and you were you always the one holding him petting her I thought I was I was not doing the you know that's not it's [TS]
◼ ► not true that's not true at all now and you know if anything I got far too little argy time [TS]
◼ ► and my wife was constantly holding on to is the way it seemed from from my perspective that's how it is with village if [TS]
◼ ► And yes I did get to see the room has an atlas in it before you start doing the thing that you always do. [TS]
◼ ► and everyone great was very nice he wasn't making jokes about the house he was very complementary [TS]
◼ ► and we had a very nice time he said sort of how the Internet has been brought to you by fracture [TS]
◼ ► Basically they're an online service which lets you print a photo or image directly onto the glass. [TS]
◼ ► and it will be all ready to put on the wall with a screw having already included in like a special backing no frames no [TS]
◼ ► If you'd like to see more the website is Fraction Me dot com You can order them in all sorts of sizes from a small four [TS]
◼ ► point eight to six point four inches right up to a big one which is twenty eight point eight by twenty one point six. [TS]
◼ ► I think it's a really good idea for a gift because it's a really personal thing when you give a friend [TS]
◼ ► So when you give it to them it sort of a talking point a lot or look at that how does that work [TS]
◼ ► Also since learning about fracture I've been thinking about another cool thing you could say because basically I've [TS]
◼ ► heard there are lots of business people who order these things and they get like their logos [TS]
◼ ► or some kind of graphic for every element on the periodic table and then hanging them on your wall as a Jew. [TS]
◼ ► and do it now there's a very special offer for your listeners if you order one of these go to fracture may dot com So [TS]
◼ ► it's all one word fracture Me dot com And then when you check out enter the code hello internet. Hello Internet. [TS]
◼ ► and they'll know you came here from the show this is a really cool product if you actually want to see an action I've [TS]
◼ ► got a nice little video on their website so I go and check them out. And thank you to fracture for sponsoring our show. [TS]
◼ ► Ari can these factors are the sole things Gray would hang in his house to cause the kind of minimalistic and coal. [TS]
◼ ► I have a little paper cut. Oh you have a paper cutter Grady's paper cuts. Oh yeah. He kind of he kind of sang that. [TS]
◼ ► My paper is when people send you a link to something in email but more often on something like Twitter [TS]
◼ ► or social media and they don't tell you what the link is to so someone might tweet Brady you should look at this [TS]
◼ ► and there's a link to it and you cannot tell from the link what it is or have you seen this or you will love this [TS]
◼ ► or I bet you hate this or check it out and you have no idea what you're clicking on and what you going to go to [TS]
◼ ► and it could be something really worthwhile that you're glad you saw or it could be a complete and utter waste of time. [TS]
◼ ► Whatever it is I know less and less now because I have pretty much imposed a blanket ban on clicking on links [TS]
◼ ► when I'm given no idea what the link is going to pay the debts are hard fastballs you know it's like all of my policies [TS]
◼ ► when the video is going to say I will watch it because Gray is a trusted source but if someone I've never met before. [TS]
◼ ► and says Brady you have to say this I'm not going to click on that because it could be something awesome [TS]
◼ ► or it could be a complete waste of my time or it could be a joke or a prank or I'm just going to go away [TS]
◼ ► and if I say check this out really it's you know and they tell me what it is I can then make an informed decision. [TS]
◼ ► Surely this comes under some sort of Internet etiquette that you will have a policy on and have read about [TS]
◼ ► But if anybody has spent a long time on the Internet particularly I feel like the old Slashdot days you learn pretty [TS]
◼ ► And so yes you don't play link roulette when someone just sends you a random link is not going to happen. [TS]
◼ ► But that that will help the only thing in my life which is somewhat like this where I do click on the links is again [TS]
◼ ► when you say someone you know sends you something and one person in particular who's kind of bad at this [TS]
◼ ► or that it's going to be some kind of problem that I have to deal with for the rest of the day. [TS]
◼ ► Or you know look you you know whatever there's a whole there's a whole universe of things that are sometimes problems [TS]
◼ ► when ever I receive a contextless link from someone I know very well every single time I have a moment of God What is [TS]
◼ ► Yeah and I click on it and it's just I don't know maybe someone needs a title for their video [TS]
◼ ► or it's you know just something that they want to show me there's no reason that if anything bad you know I owe my [TS]
◼ ► brain just assumes that it's going to be bad news and that it's a problem and it makes me sad. [TS]
◼ ► So I do not appreciate the contextless links either and I try to do them as little as possible [TS]
◼ ► and then incriminating me terribly I do feel like I try to do that with you if I send you a link. [TS]
◼ ► and I think you're pretty good with that as well because of your policy of not clicking on the links you're much more [TS]
◼ ► you much more aware and so I think OK. Anyway that's my pipe I don't want to have to wear them. [TS]
◼ ► Now I'm worried I know just like for a few days in a row that they were I know you don't read news sites so this [TS]
◼ ► and these were people who are going to be honest I probably hadn't heard of like you know this old lady has died [TS]
◼ ► or This guy directed some film in the one nine hundred seventy S. That was really popular and I to I don't know. [TS]
◼ ► So you quite often see stories about people famous people dying and sometimes you've heard of them [TS]
◼ ► and sometimes you haven't but there's always there's always one of them every couple of days or so [TS]
◼ ► and so old person has died at the age of eighty three. She was a famous ballet dancer from the one nine hundred sixty S. [TS]
◼ ► and you're thinking you know gosh now as the media becomes more and more saturated and I get older and older. [TS]
◼ ► Is there going to be a time in twenty years or say when this just going to be so many famous people [TS]
◼ ► or so many people that did things that I may know about that the news industry is just going to be like forty people [TS]
◼ ► dying a day because if I was shown a list of all the people who are older than me who I may have heard of. [TS]
◼ ► That list is going to be massive now like it's going to be full of cricketers and sportsman and movie stars [TS]
◼ ► and older every day there's going to be no now that cricketer who I liked when I was a teenager has died today that T.V. [TS]
◼ ► Star who I used to watch in that soap opera in the 1980's died like are we going to get a son like is this death thing [TS]
◼ ► No no no no but what I'm saying at the moment is when the when someone dies it is it's like it's unusual. [TS]
◼ ► when there weren't as many famous people say the right OK OK rather than the number of people is increase yes [TS]
◼ ► or they're out at the moment there are too many people dying it's kind of manageable does anyone maybe want to die. [TS]
◼ ► or forty years maybe the number of people dying who by the same criteria are worthy of coverage is going to just have [TS]
◼ ► and my head's going to explode for the number of people dying that I that I have an interest in. [TS]
◼ ► Isn't this an argument for the role of editors that the editors just have to be more rigorous in their selection of who [TS]
◼ ► No because because say if there is someday in the distant future where three of my boyhood cricket heroes die [TS]
◼ ► and one politician from my hometown all die on the same day I would be curious to know that all of those things. [TS]
◼ ► What I'm saying is is there it is the number of people going to get so high that it's just going to be hard to [TS]
◼ ► So it's unlikely I will read a new story about this pop star of the you know twenty tens who had a whole bunch of hit [TS]
◼ ► and how dense that's going to become you know what's happening here brainy. I think you're beginning to deal with. [TS]
◼ ► That's what's happening here because as you grow older the number of people that you are just aware of in the world in [TS]
◼ ► The number of people that you could have possibly heard about and have any interest goes up. Yeah. [TS]
◼ ► But as as you're getting older you are now more aware of those who you are aware of who have died. Yeah right. [TS]
◼ ► when you're thinking backwards about oh it seemed to be less I think it's much less that oh they're more famous people [TS]
◼ ► Right and so that's true although I'm going to mention I can imagine now like some very very old person [TS]
◼ ► and they're thinking oh my god not another one although there were flaws in the get it immediately. I understand that. [TS]
◼ ► but there is also the there is also the fact there are more famous people now more media now so there are more that it [TS]
◼ ► feels like I feel like I will have more targets when I'm older than my good my grandmother did. [TS]
◼ ► but I would bet that we're talking about like an order of magnitude difference in the effect that the increase in the [TS]
◼ ► number of famous people has increased the supply of potential deaths that you are aware of by ten percent. [TS]
◼ ► and your inevitable aging is increasing to this vastly more than the fact that there are more famous people on on You [TS]
◼ ► I like how you described as my inevitable death like this not even a slim chance I'm going to avoid it. I think. [TS]
◼ ► I was I was trying to talk in your terms you know I don't actually put the chance of my own death at one hundred [TS]
◼ ► but I figure you're the kind of guy who would just assume it was what do you not put your trust one hundred percent. [TS]
◼ ► Now I don't know I don't think that's what percent I mean extremely likely you know it's ninety nine with a bunch of [TS]
◼ ► but this was largely a function of the fact that I was a teenager I was in my early twenties. [TS]
◼ ► And so I just didn't I didn't have much of a connection with very many notable people because I hadn't been alive long [TS]
◼ ► but now that I am much older I'm aware that I can much more sympathize with why people get upset [TS]
◼ ► when notable people who they don't know personally die so now I can I can understand in a much more intuitive level [TS]
◼ ► and you you know you feel like you have much more of a connection to that you know I would say I get upset very often [TS]
◼ ► So I don't want to I want to make it seem like I'm sitting here reading through a news website in tears because some [TS]
◼ ► but that was not a thing that I was trying to imply I was I was just trying to say that I have come to this conclusion [TS]
◼ ► Oh now as I'm sitting here there are many more people whose whose death I would be aware of than [TS]
◼ ► Are you saying you've now come to the realisation of this and you understand why city people like Brady are affected [TS]
◼ ► or are you saying you do. If it could as well now. Yeah I would I would say that I get more affected. [TS]
◼ ► I mean you know I was sort of ornamental people just you know the star like a little flame war. [TS]
◼ ► and that was partly because it felt like oh this is a person who has affected my life quite directly because I use [TS]
◼ ► and also is something that my you know my in my family Apple is a big topic of conversation [TS]
◼ ► and so in many ways it feels like I've been talking about this person with people who are close to me for very many [TS]
◼ ► and so that like that that was probably the first one that I felt I felt like oh I feel sad in a way that is not [TS]
◼ ► when I was much younger you know I would hear about notable celebrities dying of like why is everybody so sad about [TS]
◼ ► this but it's because I hadn't been old enough to have any kind of connection with another person. [TS]
◼ ► Now there's a weird thing I think about sometimes which is that there are a large number of internet personalities [TS]
◼ ► And sometimes I think there are people I've been following for fifteen years maybe or ten years [TS]
◼ ► And sooner or later some some person in this little group of people is going to die as well [TS]
◼ ► I feel like I'm waiting for the first internet person death in a strange way where it's like oh the death of this [TS]
◼ ► But I don't know but I would certainly find out about their death and that would be strange [TS]
◼ ► and I know nothing I don't know them personally in any way whatsoever. I don't know I just got more of a drive. [TS]
◼ ► I've had a few people in my video start you know with my video still and sometimes go through what I'm out here [TS]
◼ ► and some reasons like a company of that person not here anymore this is it's a numbers game. [TS]
◼ ► when you start interacting with large I mean how many people must you have interviewed for a very yeah yeah I guess I [TS]
◼ ► when you start talking about hundreds of people it's not even oh we're just waiting for everybody to die of natural [TS]
◼ ► and things because they're sort of you know some of them are a bit older because they're sort of you know learned [TS]
◼ ► and how the Internet if we didn't talk about death in some way with it we didn't suddenly veer into a set. Yeah. [TS]
◼ ► but do you have anything important at all on that computer. Your work files your documents your Ph D. [TS]
◼ ► Thesis your photos of your baby your photos of your dog. Have you back those things up recently or ever. [TS]
◼ ► Computers They are wonderful but fragile things at any moment. A hard drive can go bad and everything on that. [TS]
◼ ► and I lost everything I ever made in college it was pretty disastrous. All that stuff just gone. [TS]
◼ ► My fate will not be for you automatically without even having to think about it back please will just make a copy of [TS]
◼ ► all of your data and keep it safe in the cloud and then if something goes bad you can get it back. [TS]
◼ ► and fifty petabytes of data on their services a number so large it's impossible to even begin to understand. [TS]
◼ ► And they have restored over a billion files for their customers a billion files that might have been lost [TS]
◼ ► and you can see what your files are from anywhere in the world. The company was founded by X.. [TS]
◼ ► Apple engineers but they are platform agnostic. It will work on your mac and it will work on your P.C. [TS]
◼ ► It's just five dollars per month per computer for on limited backup. Do you have a lot of data. I have a lot of data. [TS]
◼ ► I couldn't possibly pay by the byte five bucks unlimited sold I have backplanes running on my computer right now. [TS]
◼ ► You should to pause the podcast go to back Blaze dot com slash hello internet. It will make me feel so much better. [TS]
◼ ► It will allow you to sleep at night. Please do this back Blaze dot com. Slash hello internet. [TS]
◼ ► We're not inside any emotion people will be totally cool with and that is the U.K. General election. [TS]
◼ ► Can I do my like big butt covering Kavli thing at the start before I start poking you with a stick. [TS]
◼ ► I said Don't think like I am putting any sort of positions on the table or any point if that comes about. [TS]
◼ ► And also I'm not as knowledgeable as gray about voting I don't think anyone who is not an expert professional expert on [TS]
◼ ► I was going to an executive summary. And I know this will upset people for going wrong but whatever the U.K. [TS]
◼ ► General election just happened basically the whole the whole parliament which is all the all the members of the [TS]
◼ ► parliament that represent the different electorate so constituencies around the country all get thrown out. [TS]
◼ ► and we were going to have so many different people from various parties that no one would have much of a majority [TS]
◼ ► As it turned out that the ruling the party that was already in power the Conservative Party which was ruling by a [TS]
◼ ► coalition had a very successful election surprised everybody got the majority of seats in the house just [TS]
◼ ► and enough to form a government. So we now the Conservative Party the sort of the right wing party in the U.K. [TS]
◼ ► Just has a majority from an American perspective there are many parts of that description which will make no sneer [TS]
◼ ► and I T L D R There is a conservative government in the U.K. Yet right that that's the result of. [TS]
◼ ► Yeah now can I ask you let's ask one big burning question right from the start do you vote like are you are you allowed [TS]
◼ ► Just go go go play with the dogs to talk us through it but don't talk us through in too much detail [TS]
◼ ► but I will I will I will try to do this as briefly as I possibly can the short answer is that I can vote in U.K. [TS]
◼ ► and people moving all over the place. But the bottom line is that if say someone from Italy moved to the U.K. [TS]
◼ ► Even though they are allowed to live here they are not allowed to vote in national elections but the U.K. [TS]
◼ ► Has a unique agreement with Ireland which I am a citizen that Irish citizens are allowed to vote in national election. [TS]
◼ ► OK So under most normal circumstances a person in my situation would not be allowed to vote [TS]
◼ ► OK and just answer the same question in cases in people's heads because obviously I have this astride an accent [TS]
◼ ► Citizen I have a bridge I have a British passport due to sort of a birthright involving my father so I am I am a fully [TS]
◼ ► fledged U.K. Citizen unlike Grey who is here on an Irish passport right. Yeah I'm a dirty immigrant basically. [TS]
◼ ► Yeah actually are regular Australians allowed to vote in the national election I don't think they are. [TS]
◼ ► I spoke the other day where where he talked about the fact he just realized the whole time he was here he could have [TS]
◼ ► voted and he didn't say the answer is I don't know the answer but I wouldn't rule that out. [TS]
◼ ► We are both eligible to the background is the upshot to that so the next question is did you vote. [TS]
◼ ► OK the way it works here is that you fill out a little a registration card that comes around in every October [TS]
◼ ► when you fill that out the you get added to this big list of people who are allowed to vote. [TS]
◼ ► And unlike many places in America you cannot turn up on the day and just say OK I want to vote. [TS]
◼ ► Can you register me now is like not enough has to be done in advance so you need to be on this list. [TS]
◼ ► And so this this comes around and I always make sure to fill out this little form so that I'm on the list. [TS]
◼ ► You know you're eligible to vote in various elections. Now I have to confess something to you Brady because. [TS]
◼ ► I was entirely unaware that there was an election going on until the last time we were recording this podcast and [TS]
◼ ► You made some casual remark to me about the upcoming election and I just went along with that I went Oh yes [TS]
◼ ► and the conversation sort of moved along and I was writing down on a piece of paper U.K. Election date. [TS]
◼ ► Question mark right as a thing to look into the conversation so I only I only learned of the election whatever it was [TS]
◼ ► That's crazy to me like that's just pain everywhere it's like everyone else in the country is like for God's sake let [TS]
◼ ► As topic for video and when we hung up the phone after that I immediately was over them a lookup on the datas [TS]
◼ ► and I thought it was relatively soon and I ended up doing some initial research to try to make a video for it [TS]
◼ ► and so yes it did come to kind of bite me in the butt because had I known about it ahead of time I would have been able [TS]
◼ ► Oh we have to back up for a second because this is going to sound incredibly confusing to Americans this is not like in [TS]
◼ ► America where everybody knows until the end of time when all of the elections are going to take place. The U.K. [TS]
◼ ► Elections don't take place every X. Number of years for various complications that we won't get into. [TS]
◼ ► or six years now I forget because it changed recently there has been some changes on that in recent years I think you [TS]
◼ ► should rate read up a bit more I looked into it and yes the way that it can happen has chair and the. [TS]
◼ ► The date for this election has been known for a long time like this this is the first time where the election wasn't [TS]
◼ ► Things have firmed up a bit there but anyway it is firmer but you still have uncertainty and [TS]
◼ ► when the date is going to be and you still only know when the maximum date is going to be unlike. [TS]
◼ ► I'm fully aware when all of the presidential elections for the rest of time will happen because I can count by four [TS]
◼ ► and that's why in theory for someone it could be a kind of surprise that there's an election going on. [TS]
◼ ► So getting back to the did you vote question model on election day people who are Follow me on Twitter knew that I had [TS]
◼ ► and I have to admit that I had no intentions of going out to vote because I thought I got a whole bunch of other stuff [TS]
◼ ► and he was like a little a little angel on my shoulder saying you should probably go out and vote. [TS]
◼ ► but anyway this was what was in my mind this is what was in my mind you know what I really can't I got too much to do. [TS]
◼ ► There's too much stuff that I'm feeling bad about being way behind on I got to get this stuff done. [TS]
◼ ► and as I'm going out to run some errands I literally on the same side of the street walk right by a gigantic sign that [TS]
◼ ► OK And so I thought now I'm going to feel like a real jerk if it's right here it will take two seconds [TS]
◼ ► and I don't actually step in to go vote. So I step in to go vote. Just before you say what happened next. [TS]
◼ ► Yes if you didn't even know the election was on. How on earth can you know who you going to vote for. [TS]
◼ ► I was wondering if you were going to pick up on this post because I hadn't seen any of the debates. [TS]
◼ ► I could not be a more uninformed voter this is you are the advertisement for one of the biggest problems with democracy [TS]
◼ ► I was keenly aware that this was a very funny moment of oh you know you tell people oh everybody should go out [TS]
◼ ► I I doubt that there was a person less informed in the nation walking into a polling station at that moment than myself [TS]
◼ ► in a grade that proves to me that you don't watch the news because despite the fact you didn't even know the election [TS]
◼ ► or they don't you know people's ignorance never ceases to amaze me so even though you didn't know the election was on I [TS]
◼ ► am more comfortable with you voting than the majority of people who voted that day. But anyway. [TS]
◼ ► Oh thanks Brady that feels like a condemnation of the masses but I will take it as a compliment of me thank you. [TS]
◼ ► but then I discover a thing which I did not know which is that you're not allowed to just vote anywhere you have to [TS]
◼ ► vote at a very particular place as a whole what is this nonsense I can't just like you can't take my vote here now. [TS]
◼ ► and they give me the address of the place that I have to go to actually vote and I take a look at [TS]
◼ ► Yeah and I think well this is exactly the opposite direction that I'm going to go in. Well shrug my shoulders. [TS]
◼ ► However as you may be aware I now have an apple watch and on my way home I look at the Apple Watch [TS]
◼ ► and frowned because I had not gotten in the amount of walking and motion that I needed to for the day. [TS]
◼ ► I walk past my house and to the polling station and I go in to vote and I tell the lady my name [TS]
◼ ► and tell her my address and she says you're not listed on this. This polling station you can vote here. [TS]
◼ ► and I'll tell you the fact you didn't know where to vote tells me you didn't get a polling card sent to you [TS]
◼ ► and if you did have a polling center. It was me that you were on the right name and address on the list. [TS]
◼ ► Well the thing is I know I filled this out like I try to fill out this paperwork all the time [TS]
◼ ► Yeah and so it is very possible that there was a polling card in there somewhere but I go to this location [TS]
◼ ► and they tell me no my name isn't on this list and then they ask if I moved recently which definitely was the case [TS]
◼ ► and they tell me oh don't worry about it it's no problem you can go to this third location to vote. [TS]
◼ ► If that happens to be right around the corner because I basically moved right around the corner. [TS]
◼ ► I go to a third location to vote only to have them tell me that no my name is not listed there either as a person who [TS]
◼ ► I ended up walking to three polling stations to try and vote I was not able to vote at any of them but. [TS]
◼ ► I'm not going to ask you you would have voted for because that's no one's business and I don't want to start that [TS]
◼ ► but you did know who you were going to vote for if you go in or were you just going to look at the paper [TS]
◼ ► or have you could look at if you go leanings that would have just said well I always vote left or right of center [TS]
◼ ► and I just would have picked whoever represented your party of choice. What was what was your plan. [TS]
◼ ► or any of the people involved in these politics was that I I had a vote that was a kind of strategic vote that was not [TS]
◼ ► OK so that's why I could feel like oh I can go vote in good conscience as opposed to just like you know randomly [TS]
◼ ► and that's not something you want to discuss that's kind of a political thing is now we will eat we'll leave it at that [TS]
◼ ► and I come from Australia where voting is compulsory so it is kind of ingrained to me that on election day you vote [TS]
◼ ► And if basically any year when I jokingly say I think I'm not going to vote this year she just looks at me [TS]
◼ ► and says you are voting my friend so that's all I have no choice about voting that she tell you who to vote for. [TS]
◼ ► No no she doesn't know she doesn't tell me to vote for she's But she just thinks people should vote she thinks is [TS]
◼ ► I live in quite a safe city as well so I feel I can have a huge effect in what I would do anyway. [TS]
◼ ► So to expand on what greatest explained the one thing he didn't include because he doesn't seem to realize this is that [TS]
◼ ► if you are on the electoral roll about a day or two before the election you receive a polling card with your name [TS]
◼ ► and also your voting registration number I think you have some code number associated with you. [TS]
◼ ► OK I had mine and basically you can you don't have to have it with you they can tick you off the list without it [TS]
◼ ► but if you have your pollen count it makes life pretty easy because I just take you cut off the tick you off the list [TS]
◼ ► So I went along to the local church churches often host the election which I find so funny with so separate. [TS]
◼ ► and the other one wasn't explicitly a church it was officially religiously affiliated I just find that mind blowing. [TS]
◼ ► As an American every time I've done it to they not do that in America public is not held in churches depending on the [TS]
◼ ► state there may be states that do do it in churches but at least at least where I grew up it was always schools [TS]
◼ ► It's usually like a church roller aside it's not usually you know you don't like walk down the aisle [TS]
◼ ► and I haven't put things on the altar where you put you know you have to vote on the altar in the moment of handing you [TS]
◼ ► So I don't want to have the feeling that some crazy religious thing it's just convenient because most towns have a [TS]
◼ ► church and they usually have a hole where you can do it makes one hundred percent sense from a logistical perspective. [TS]
◼ ► and I with the voting just outside the church at the gate to the church there's all the political people hoping to you [TS]
◼ ► know give you a piece of paper or to smile at you and hope you vote for them. I'm used to that that's normal. [TS]
◼ ► but in this vestibule area there's this guy in a suit and he says may I have your bias in your polling place [TS]
◼ ► and I'm like OK well you know I mean the polling booth now his official this is obviously part of the process. [TS]
◼ ► So I showed him my polling card and my wife shows her public and he starts writing down our numbers on this list. [TS]
◼ ► Something you know I carry the you know the checking of the numbers and stuff. This is how it's all working. [TS]
◼ ► He's taking all this information and I ask him again like a bit more family doesn't tell me. [TS]
◼ ► but by this by this point it's probably noticeable that I'm unhappy I say Who are you where are you from. [TS]
◼ ► And he says he's from this political. He's just taking information now this is normal they do they do this. [TS]
◼ ► Other political parties do this for their own research purposes and that's fine I accept that [TS]
◼ ► but I felt like I was a bit tricked because this guy wasn't outside with all the other people he was like in like this [TS]
◼ ► the Holy of Holies he was in that he was in the church he was in he was like really close to the polling booths. [TS]
◼ ► and I walk in two steps later this official guy because now I'm in the room where all the polling booths comes up to me [TS]
◼ ► I thought that guy was part of the polling process I wouldn't have given him my numbers are really just great he did I [TS]
◼ ► don't think he should be there. He should be out with all the others and this guy said You're right I'm sorry. [TS]
◼ ► I think he was on that earlier when it was raining and he shouldn't be there and I said Well go [TS]
◼ ► and my wife is I really embarrassed says I don't care he couldn't you know she just wants me to shut up because. [TS]
◼ ► Because now she thinks I'm creating a sane right. I'm not creating a sane. Of course not of course not I am being fair. [TS]
◼ ► Right so he then goes off and like do it with this guy obviously so I'm all riled up now and then [TS]
◼ ► and then I go up to the person who is supposed to cross me off the list and they give me my papers [TS]
◼ ► and they're like really apologetic they will feel really bad about what's happened I think I think that basically the [TS]
◼ ► and they're probably worried I'm going to kick up a huge scene and get them in trouble so they'll come up [TS]
◼ ► and apologize to me and ask me to smooth things over and make some joke jokes with them and I went voted [TS]
◼ ► and then I went back outside and he was a bit further away from the door at this point and he said sorry [TS]
◼ ► and I said no problems have a nice day but I think he knew I was job and happy about the whole thing. [TS]
◼ ► So my voting experience of kind of you know exercising democracy was not like you know the sunny pleasant thing it [TS]
◼ ► when really I was just a bit riled up by some guy named McGreal Brady Haran defender of the sanctity of elections you [TS]
◼ ► know that there are two things that I think are important sensitive elections and the privacy of data [TS]
◼ ► and this guy like smashing both of them in my face so it was a perfect storm and then I think I can't MCO [TS]
◼ ► and would have you know I wouldn't disagree with anyone I have a conflict so I thought it sorry for him [TS]
◼ ► And look on the drive home saying I'm sorry I just think it's you know I think it's important because Barack and I. [TS]
◼ ► and it's like it's a relevant headline doesn't it doesn't really matter and I and also I don't care that much. [TS]
◼ ► or whatever dislike whatever that's just but I think if everyone just votes what they think is best best for them [TS]
◼ ► Sorry to rake over stuff you already know other than in the show I groaned I watch the news. [TS]
◼ ► but there have been a few little controversies to do with the selection to do with who got in [TS]
◼ ► and who got how many votes obviously I don't know anything about any of the controversies that happened during the [TS]
◼ ► but the morning the morning after basically I thought oh I do want to see the result like I'm just curious to see how [TS]
◼ ► when I do my videos I try very hard to never mention particular political parties yet because people's brains just turn [TS]
◼ ► off the instant you mention particular political parties and they they stop thinking about it in terms of fairness [TS]
◼ ► Yeah and the only thing they care about is their sports team winning. Yeah. So there we are. [TS]
◼ ► but I guarantee you dear listener I could barely know less about their particular policies. [TS]
◼ ► but unfortunately since we're talking about a particular election we can't have this conversation in terms of gorillas [TS]
◼ ► and I suspect almost sound like you're going to sort of say they got a raw deal is the most controversial part of the [TS]
◼ ► While I still think that America has everything you could want to go wrong with elections America basically does the [TS]
◼ ► For various reasons has been able to hang on to having multiple parties in a way that the United States [TS]
◼ ► Yes and I'm looking at some pie charts here I'll put them in the show not on a nationwide level. [TS]
◼ ► Is is divided into a bunch of constituencies the way this works is the election isn't really taking place on the [TS]
◼ ► national level. It's six hundred some odd local elections for who is going to be the member of parliament of the Shire. [TS]
◼ ► Is that member of parliament a member of our you have his constituency so every every constituency is saying we want to [TS]
◼ ► send Billy blokes from the Conservative Party to be a member of parliament for the next five years [TS]
◼ ► And if one party is able to get a majority of the seats in parliament they have complete control over the government. [TS]
◼ ► but just that it's different so that the thing that blows most Americans minds is that the the prime minister is not [TS]
◼ ► and if your party gets the majority of seats in parliament they basically get to pick who is going to be prime minister [TS]
◼ ► who just happens to be one of those members of parliament and they decide write him like a man [TS]
◼ ► and this is why from an American perspective you can get really bizarre things that happen where no election occurs [TS]
◼ ► and that's because the party in charge has decided oh we don't like how this guy is doing things we're going to vote [TS]
◼ ► but just pick saying saying we're catering to Americans so much here I think we also need to point out during in one [TS]
◼ ► thousand nine percent of cases during the election it's not a mystery who the prime minister will be you know ahead of [TS]
◼ ► time. In fact the election is quite presidential in that way and although you're voting for. [TS]
◼ ► and they just go into the polling booth look for the name of the party you know who is associated with the prime [TS]
◼ ► And I just took that person's name so it is a battle to be between two prime ministers but yeah it is. [TS]
◼ ► It is finally back where it's like the practicalities of it because yes it is almost run as though it is a presidential [TS]
◼ ► but there is the actual mechanics of it kind of have nothing to do with that it's very it's it's a strange an interesting [TS]
◼ ► and short of it is if you get fifty one percent of the seats in parliament because you also pick the Prime Minister you [TS]
◼ ► and you get to pass those laws for the most part please people don't email me with with lots of kind of stuff but like. [TS]
◼ ► Sounding it off ninety five percent of the time that's the case fifty one percent you're in charge. [TS]
◼ ► The weird thing is because of the way First Past the Post works because of the way the local constituencies work. [TS]
◼ ► The end result is that thirty seven percent of the voters for the Conservative Party happen to win fifty one percent of [TS]
◼ ► Yeah but then that also means because the thirty seven percent of the voters got fifty one percent of the seats. [TS]
◼ ► That's that's really what kind of sticks in my craw most more than some of the other things that we will talk about is [TS]
◼ ► is this very notion that the largest group gets to act as though they are a majority even though they are they are by [TS]
◼ ► no means a majority. That is a frustrating system and I think that that is very undemocratic. [TS]
◼ ► Thing is like I said I know you're a big expert on this and I don't feel particularly passionate about it [TS]
◼ ► I think the thing here is there are actually two there there are two arguments going on here at the same time [TS]
◼ ► and I know you're aware of the subtlety but I'll point this out anyway. No no please don't. [TS]
◼ ► There is a debate about what voting system should be used in the each of these constituencies to choose our John Doe [TS]
◼ ► or Sally Jones to go off to parliament and that's an argument to have. Who's going to represent us. [TS]
◼ ► How are we going to decide our individual representative to represent me here in the hills and you day. [TS]
◼ ► or should we be represented by some committee that that represents all their views and how we all want to vote [TS]
◼ ► Yep so if we're going to have that system I think we're always going to have this problem where you can do very well. [TS]
◼ ► Let's just say that this is this party that the called the U.K. Independence Party Ukip in the U.K. [TS]
◼ ► And what happened in this election and it's one of the things that's being raised is they go about [TS]
◼ ► or thirteen percent of the National Right now they're a very controversial party because they are to do with [TS]
◼ ► immigration and their nationalist party but all of us thought they got thirteen percent of the vote [TS]
◼ ► and they only got one seat in the parliament which turns out to be point two percent of Parliament yet. [TS]
◼ ► So that's that's the direct disparity to compare and everyone thinks that's very unfair and maybe they're right [TS]
◼ ► and I think Grey thinks that's unfair and maybe he's right. I'm not entirely convinced that's unfair. Tell me why. [TS]
◼ ► But that doesn't mean there's no there is only one constituency in which the majority of the people in that [TS]
◼ ► Just to be clear though they didn't win a majority of the seats even there they want to plurality of the seats. [TS]
◼ ► So all and whatever you want to call them that's called Neverland's going to make you happiest. That's perfectly fine. [TS]
◼ ► and it looked like they were going to win and they got to the final and they stumbled at the final hurdle [TS]
◼ ► and they lost the final to Germany I think it was held in Germany so that probably gave the Germans an advantage anyway. [TS]
◼ ► People thought maybe they'll do it this time. Again they got to the final they got right to the end. [TS]
◼ ► Now kind of the bridesmaids again and then in two thousand and ten they finally met they made it to the final again [TS]
◼ ► Now this feels to me under a great model we would say you've done so well so many times in so many different countries [TS]
◼ ► and so many different tournaments against so many different people. Let's just give you a World Cup trophy. [TS]
◼ ► and you've proven yourself to be a good soccer team we're going to give you a trophy anyway I think the same thing [TS]
◼ ► applies to the selection if you keep it going to put a candidate and all the six hundred odd states [TS]
◼ ► and that one in fifteen percent of the vote and that one and they keep doing well but they never win. [TS]
◼ ► Are we going to say you know what you did so well get over so many states that even though you never won. [TS]
◼ ► Let's just give you a whole bunch of seats in the Parliament anyway this I think is an interesting argument [TS]
◼ ► and this I feel like is the technicality argument where you're right they basically didn't win any of the elections [TS]
◼ ► We are very aware of some of the complicating factors like Ukip running a candidate in almost every constituency [TS]
◼ ► when you talk about winning a local constituency my view on it is the constituencies are the exact same problem as the [TS]
◼ ► The whole problem in my view is the idea which seems comical if you think about it that a single person is going to [TS]
◼ ► represent in any meaningful way the views of a large group of other people this is no longer about voting then it's [TS]
◼ ► Like to like how we represented we represented but because the Everything's going to come down to that problem. [TS]
◼ ► Then to that problem the president is an interesting case because the president in large extent is a kind of veto like [TS]
◼ ► but if you zoom down to any single constituency I looked up the numbers for the constituency in which I live has voted [TS]
◼ ► for the same party for as long as it has ever existed and almost always by a sixty percent margin. [TS]
◼ ► That right there is the fundamental problem that the idea that that person or whoever that party happens to run. [TS]
◼ ► Every single time for more than half a century for for more than twice my lifetime that that party completely [TS]
◼ ► And in this case at the very least in this constituency it is a majority and the majority of the voters. [TS]
◼ ► but it still means that for all of time the other forty percent of people who live in that constituency never have any [TS]
◼ ► but there are they aren't the only true alternative the only totally fair alternative is that each of the sixty five [TS]
◼ ► or seventy million or have many people live here in the country have one representative for them and we have a [TS]
◼ ► and millions of people in it so that we are overrepresented on every vote on every law you have to you have to at some [TS]
◼ ► and a single representative per however many tens of thousands of people are in each constituency. [TS]
◼ ► and this is this is one of the reasons why I made those voting videos to show that there are several systems that allow [TS]
◼ ► and still have national parliamentary results that better reflect the actual will of the people. [TS]
◼ ► when you look at like I'm looking at these pie charts on my screen right now which would show where the thirty seven [TS]
◼ ► And then I mean it's not even just Ukip it's I mean looking at this looking at this chart right you have Ukip had [TS]
◼ ► thirteen percent of the vote they end up with less than one percent of the seats. The Liberal Democrats. [TS]
◼ ► Eight percent of the vote they get one percent of the seats the Greens got four percent of the vote they get a point [TS]
◼ ► I think this is results where a third of the people end up with one hundred percent of the control [TS]
◼ ► and sixty six percent of the people end up with no control and no meaningful representation. [TS]
◼ ► and why does why does this ruling government have legitimacy when only thirty seven percent of the people voted for it. [TS]
◼ ► I find it very difficult for a government to make a convincing argument why they should have one hundred percent of the [TS]
◼ ► The reason why I don't like local representation so much is because if you control where those borders are drawn you [TS]
◼ ► You know if if someone said to me I get to redraw these boundaries you know I could I could instead make it an almost [TS]
◼ ► completely different government and I could put together a coalition of any other government that I want [TS]
◼ ► and that's one of the reasons why I think the local representation thing is just overvalued people people don't realize [TS]
◼ ► how much where those boundaries are drawn wildly affects the elections before we come on to the cause. [TS]
◼ ► Again that's a separate issue and I know the two are tied together because having power gives you. [TS]
◼ ► But let's leave the issue of boundaries aside and manipulating boundaries. Let's just stick for a bit longer. [TS]
◼ ► Yeah the U.K. Luckily doesn't really have that problem the boundary conditions are pretty good in the U.K. OK. [TS]
◼ ► and let's talk a bit for bit longer about this whole issue of Tories only the Conservative Party sorry thirty seven [TS]
◼ ► and utter quagmire a log jammed mess that would be is there not something to be said for the FF for the argument that [TS]
◼ ► you need to engineer the system so that whoever you decide is the winner whoever does win based on whatever voting [TS]
◼ ► system you use is then given some power is given some potency because if we had a committee in Westminster in London [TS]
◼ ► deciding our laws that was based on this make up of thirty seven percent thirty odd percent thirty percent they would [TS]
◼ ► just never get anything done. Don't you need to say OK for better or worse this party has won the election. [TS]
◼ ► Let's just give them some power for five years because otherwise the companies can't govern without power. [TS]
◼ ► and then everyone said well we think we think Spain were thirty three percent the best team in the Netherlands with [TS]
◼ ► Now to be ridiculous you have to you have to have your competition and then say OK one person gets the trophy. [TS]
◼ ► One person gets the power and for the next four years or five years or whatever it is you are the champions [TS]
◼ ► or you are the government you have the power. And that's come back again in five years and do it all again. [TS]
◼ ► However this is the situation the reason why it really bothers me is you're talking about the national level you're [TS]
◼ ► and I never understand this argument of we just need to play we just need to just do stuff we need to just be able to [TS]
◼ ► when you're talking about things like you talk about things like national defense you're talking about national [TS]
◼ ► I don't understand the argument that if we if we can't get people to agree on these very important issues we should [TS]
◼ ► just let whoever happens to be the largest group but not a majority just decide everything. [TS]
◼ ► I don't see why people are so allergic to compromise because sometimes compromise doesn't work like. [TS]
◼ ► Here's here's the thing here's the reverse scenario because I think what happens is people look at the current system [TS]
◼ ► But but imagine I think about it from a classroom scenario and the thought you have you know twenty kids in a room [TS]
◼ ► and you say OK kids here's what we're going to do we're going to let you decide. Some of the rules for the classroom. [TS]
◼ ► Now the first thing we have to decide though is how how are we going to decide rules that will affect everybody. [TS]
◼ ► How many votes do you think we need in order to make a rule that is going to affect everybody. [TS]
◼ ► I think all humans have it have an innate sense that if you're going to do something that affects everybody you should [TS]
◼ ► I can't imagine you would have anybody in this situation where you haven't set up a system arguing that if six kids can [TS]
◼ ► agree together they don't need to compromise with anybody else they can just set rules for the entire classroom of [TS]
◼ ► twenty. You're talking about a very black and white situation here lacka lacka guilty or not guilty. [TS]
◼ ► Well again that's a very stats a very again that's a very simple statement of what happens when laws are created [TS]
◼ ► and there's huge amounts of compromise and negotiate. Stop stop stop stop right there though. [TS]
◼ ► and negotiate with anybody because they have a majority of seats so they have to be one hundred percent of the power. [TS]
◼ ► and the political situation is going to make it easy for them to push laws through then you are not [TS]
◼ ► but it doesn't change the fact that what is being discussed is largely under their control. [TS]
◼ ► Just every everything which has become a stick in the mud every every every minor thing would just get held up by [TS]
◼ ► and I mean you know I mean you know there are many like most countries have some kind of proportional representation [TS]
◼ ► And if your party can't get an actual majority of the people supporting you you should have to compromise [TS]
◼ ► But I think that if you were able to actually get a majority of the citizens of a nation to support your political [TS]
◼ ► party and elect you into office. I like that parliamentary systems then do give you an enormous amount of leeway. [TS]
◼ ► and on the flip side with America like the American system people always always complain about how slow [TS]
◼ ► But that whole system is designed to slow everything down it's designed to have elections at different times. [TS]
◼ ► and I'm not always sure that that's good I feel like if a majority of people want to vote in a particular party that [TS]
◼ ► I just don't like it when it is a small number of voters who have ended up basically because of borders [TS]
◼ ► and then act as though the majority of citizens have actually voted them in which is not at all the case. OK. [TS]
◼ ► I'm going to say anyway everyone who voted in the election knows how the political system here works. [TS]
◼ ► Sumption do you think you know weren't you just telling me that the vox pops demonstrate that nobody knows how for the [TS]
◼ ► sake of argument we're going to use for the sake of OK let's pretend we have nothing but inform voters [TS]
◼ ► and I think if you're going to have an idealized parliament where everyone sits around and compromises [TS]
◼ ► and I do you know no relation No I don't understand what I am arguing the exact opposite that they have ended up in a [TS]
◼ ► situation where they don't need to compromise. No what I was saying is you're being you're being quite. [TS]
◼ ► Academic about how parliament works so let me be academic about how the voters work for a minute [TS]
◼ ► If they knew that thirteen percent of their vote was going to put thirty percent Ukip candidates in the house they may [TS]
◼ ► and political parties that they don't think are likely to actually win this is true across the board [TS]
◼ ► and so is true for the Greens it's true for the for Ukip that it is likely they have a larger percentage of votes than [TS]
◼ ► they would get under an actual Your representative system so if it was quite self correcting Now this to me just even [TS]
◼ ► or I should say you know for certain that these percentages aren't even necessarily accurate representations of how [TS]
◼ ► people would vote if they were dealing under a proportional system the whole thing is just is just garbage. [TS]
◼ ► So interesting that you are so passionate about this topic and you're so passionate about the way you wake up [TS]
◼ ► and the fairness or the unfairness of it and yet you take absolutely no interest in the actual governing [TS]
◼ ► and you didn't even know there was an election because the reason that I don't take any interest in it is precisely [TS]
◼ ► You know the constituency in which I live is never going to vote for a different candidate not not not even close. [TS]
◼ ► So I like living here but as long as I live here you know my vote doesn't count for anything. [TS]
◼ ► and care nothing at all for how the gov like the particulars of how the government is working because I have absolutely [TS]
◼ ► no influence on those things. How do you know it's not working then how do you know it's not working. [TS]
◼ ► Like how do you know the system isn't working and we're not being well governed if you don't know how we're governed. [TS]
◼ ► What I mean is that the system is not representing what I think is the will of the people that you see in the way the [TS]
◼ ► That's what I mean I'm not I'm not talking about like are the trains running kind of thing I mean that the national [TS]
◼ ► level government is not any kind of reflection of how the people are expressing their But that's not what. [TS]
◼ ► or the conversations aren't being shaped by like obviously the number of people with their bums on the chairs in the in [TS]
◼ ► but do you know that there are more subtle things at play here. Because everyone knows these numbers right. [TS]
◼ ► Well everyone are you asking to political parties pay attention to these polls you bet they did say that conservatives [TS]
◼ ► And if I was if I was the political strategist for the Conservative Party I would be very worried about those high [TS]
◼ ► and it seems from the little bit that I know that it is very likely that the conservatives have changed some of their [TS]
◼ ► policies to try to woo Ukip voters so that is correct you are quite right I agree with the I don't know if you are [TS]
◼ ► but I agree with you it does seem that way as well to me I mean that's my guess I don't know what that says to me that [TS]
◼ ► says to me Look you know I don't care about this and I think the voting systems are rubbish today. [TS]
◼ ► What this says to me if if the the party that's governing is being shaped by this thirteen percent of the vote that you [TS]
◼ ► can't go then even though they haven't got the bums on seats they are shaping the debate and the way we're governed [TS]
◼ ► Somehow a bit of it happens to be sort of like a compromise but it's like a crappy second order effect. [TS]
◼ ► If the the growing number of green voters slightly influences the Labor governments to change their policies in [TS]
◼ ► But there are much better ways to design a system to do that on purpose without negative effects that the current [TS]
◼ ► system has. That's that's my frustration. Has any country got a national level in your opinion. [TS]
◼ ► I don't want to single out anybody in particular but I would say that in the developed world the U.S. and The U.K. [TS]
◼ ► And I would include Canada have particularly interesting combinations of problems that all exacerbate each other in [TS]
◼ ► Many of these things is like the first past the post system which is common to all three of them is terrible. [TS]
◼ ► And so while many other countries that use different systems or even within the U.K. Parts of the U.K. [TS]
◼ ► Use things like single transferable vote which I do quite like. It's not exactly proportional. [TS]
◼ ► But if you have a slightly better voting system it can greatly mitigate other problems that the country has. [TS]
◼ ► Greg you just completely completely out of that like a politician like on the side of the politician What are your [TS]
◼ ► policies and they just didn't stop slagging off the opposition. I said I said What's a good one who's doing it right. [TS]
◼ ► I know you don't want to get people jumping on your back but could you name a bunch of countries [TS]
◼ ► and Canada and maybe rightly so but I just want to know where to look for someone who's who's doing it right. [TS]
◼ ► Do you like Australia I'm from Australia so I was the only one I'll ask about specifically as a strategy because that's [TS]
◼ ► Yeah it's I was one of you has let us try it because the funny thing about Australia is they have the alternative open [TS]
◼ ► but I still think it's better than than the way the U.K. System works. It's still not very good. [TS]
◼ ► Yeah they're different but everyone's in a striking when you tell me which country does it. [TS]
◼ ► Well I won't tell anyone what we can do we can talk some of the particulars off air gushing about you [TS]
◼ ► Yeah I thought to say I'd like but the first past the post really really makes things worse. [TS]
◼ ► And the problem on the national level about misrepresentation is the same problem you have at the local level about [TS]
◼ ► You know if you if you look at any of the smaller places it's really interesting like if you just look at Scotland the [TS]
◼ ► but It basically looks like Maggie Simpson because most of the country is blue except for Scotland which is the yellow [TS]
◼ ► but it's a similar thing where the Scottish National Party basically took every single seat in Scotland which makes it [TS]
◼ ► look like everybody in Scotland voted for the Scottish National Party but that's not the case. [TS]
◼ ► You know that's that's not the case. But if you if you voted anything except Scottish National Party. [TS]
◼ ► but they ended up with nine almost ten percent of the actual seats in parliament so just like there's a whole system is [TS]
◼ ► You know if you can distribute your voters so that you get a plurality of votes you know that's awesome for you as a [TS]
◼ ► and you know I mean you do seem like the sort of the wishy washy let's all let So let's all sit in a circle [TS]
◼ ► and they should be fairly represented and have a big hug and with them will just compromise [TS]
◼ ► and I guess I sounded a bit I don't I sound a bit more ruthless like I'm giving out World Cups [TS]
◼ ► and dismissing the losers to go and suffer for years and if you don't if you don't win on that day you never win. [TS]
◼ ► Let me ask you something do you do you think a third of the people should be able to decide whether [TS]
◼ ► or not the whole country goes to war like this is the kind of stuff that happens on a national level. [TS]
◼ ► and that's that's why it matters like you know what I think if you're going to declare war you need to get more than a [TS]
◼ ► third of the people to agree with you. You shouldn't be able to say oh we're the biggest group. [TS]
◼ ► and they're just about to blow you off the face of the earth do you think a group of six hundred people should sit [TS]
◼ ► around and hold hands and think oh what do you think no no what do you think I don't know what do you think. [TS]
◼ ► Let's trade like trade you know let's just have someone in charge of body press the button. [TS]
◼ ► Let me ask you something don't you think. Right in an in an existential situation people would agree. [TS]
◼ ► Right people if the if you want to know is that isn't what you want to give someone Power I Am i am very happy to lay [TS]
◼ ► it on the table and this is this is this always happens in these conversations. People act as though. [TS]
◼ ► No humans can never possibly agree on anything. And like humans are actually very good at this kind of stuff. [TS]
◼ ► If you have a big obvious problem with a big obvious solution what do you think you're going to have people not [TS]
◼ ► but anyway I mean you're right necessity is the mother of invention and I was probably also the mother of compromise. [TS]
◼ ► and before you even start before you even start this is what I was just about to say this exact thing that you're going [TS]
◼ ► and do all of this stuff is because the smaller the stakes the more people can feel free to argue about this kind of [TS]
◼ ► and you can't get anybody to agree usually it's like it's not over something that is absolutely vital if it goes one [TS]
◼ ► Right this is this is the this is the bike shed effect right everybody wants to argue about what color to paint the [TS]
◼ ► and you bring experts to the table it's a lot easier to get people to agree on important stuff than it is an important [TS]
◼ ► that's not exactly what I was going to say I was going to say that we're decorating the house at the moment [TS]
◼ ► So in the end I have given the power to my wife so we don't end up with rooms painted different colors she just given [TS]
◼ ► her the power to decide and I think there's something to be said for giving someone power to decide things. [TS]
◼ ► You you have implicitly agreed to go along with what she said this is what a coalition is this is what a coalition [TS]
◼ ► government is right where you know you don't always get our way but we're kind of agreeing to go along with you [TS]
◼ ► but I can guarantee that if she came back with some kind of future that she wanted to paint the whole house [TS]
◼ ► and I don't I don't want to I think the Parliament is way too big I think that's actually one of the problems is [TS]
◼ ► and national governing bodies at something under a Dunbar number right you need like one hundred people so that the [TS]
◼ ► people who are actually working with each other have some notion of who the individuals are. [TS]
◼ ► It's basically how many humans can a single human meaningfully keep track of like the relationships between them. [TS]
◼ ► You know one of the very first things I would do is I like listen we're cutting this Parliament down by a divisor of [TS]
◼ ► and we're going to have bigger constituencies each of which send more representatives so that it is more proportional. [TS]
◼ ► But you can expect six hundred people to meaningfully work with each other in any particular way. [TS]
◼ ► Suffers from that a little bit with like gigantic parliaments of listening guys like you know you can have proportional [TS]
◼ ► representation with one hundred people that's close enough like a hundred people going to get your error within one [TS]
◼ ► Yes six hundred people is a crazy number of people so it definitely has to be smaller as well. [TS]
◼ ► They are not some are not some hippie. I just think if it's a big problem people will be able to agree on that. [TS]
◼ ► It's an important thing you'll get agreement to your faith in humanity restored my faith in you [TS]