◼ ► We need to go no go for recording the five a deputy go hijack go face time go show don't go. [TS]
◼ ► I hear you went to a balloon festival of some sort I went to a balloon festival with the Bristol International Balloon [TS]
◼ ► Balloon Fiesta that sounds even better than a festival I don't think that's like them being silly I think that's what [TS]
◼ ► you call the balloon fiesta so I think that's what you call the police first of all I think that's like the [TS]
◼ ► I'm shakin with is like their first degree search of the poker if you are what fifteen seconds in [TS]
◼ ► and already there is some Brady keyboard typing that I'm going to be cutting out collective noun for billions. [TS]
◼ ► Are No hang on there's there's all sorts of things here there's heart some silly ones here so I think some of these [TS]
◼ ► and a victory I don't really believe most of these collective Now there I think is just people making up words [TS]
◼ ► and you know how we feel about people making up words. It's delightful and it's of them that way. [TS]
◼ ► Reboot of hot air balloon a free bit of infringements that's what it would be a free version of infringed. [TS]
◼ ► Yeah so I did go to the Bristol International Balloon Fiesta for for a day and got a special V.I.P. [TS]
◼ ► Packing purse I've got to go into the balloonist carpark got me know I needed to get me really close to the action [TS]
◼ ► but I went straight to the emergency road with all the vans that chasing the balloon so I had a I had a much better [TS]
◼ ► experience than the average Joe. I'm going to be honest here he told me you went to this this hot air balloon fiesta. [TS]
◼ ► What I had in my mind was some little local event with you know a few hobbyist hot air balloon hit I guess [TS]
◼ ► but two hundred thousand people that's a serious that the serious number of people this is this is a really do is for [TS]
◼ ► real to I mean I went to every morning and evening throughout the event which goes for three [TS]
◼ ► or four days later these mass a sense where a whole bunch of balloons or sort of take of together and I reckon sixty [TS]
◼ ► and that's just some of the balloons going up it's to big thing you getting images what I was googling for Actually I [TS]
◼ ► was thinking how big our balloon festivals because the only one I know off the top of my head is the one that happened [TS]
◼ ► and I thought oh this is why I was thinking we are that's going to be my scale of comparison here because I think [TS]
◼ ► but numbers of balloons is five hundred at the New Mexico one so you figure the one that you went to is just slightly [TS]
◼ ► I mean Bristol is one of the world capitals of hot air ballooning the the biggest hot air balloon company in the world [TS]
◼ ► is based here in a couple of other ones it's a it's a hotbed of hot air ballooning here pursue [TS]
◼ ► and quite often in the evening you to say want to tell you flying H No if the weather is good [TS]
◼ ► and you say that you be I was driving home one of the other dice along the murder weapon just looked at the left [TS]
◼ ► and seeing a hot air balloon floating along doing a little thing that sounds delightful. That's. [TS]
◼ ► I don't like a really a really nice thing to randomly see in the sky just a that a happy little hot air balloon [TS]
◼ ► floating along I have a real special relationship hot air balloons Toyota the years I've three Some films are my reach [TS]
◼ ► and i even if you know about that there was a a scientist at the University of Nottingham who in her spare time with this [TS]
◼ ► and she talked to the university into buying her a hot air balloon it became the University of Nottingham hot air [TS]
◼ ► and I sort of followed her through the journey of having it made him I wish I actually went on its first flight over [TS]
◼ ► the Swiss Alps and things like that so I had this like quite a long standing relationship with balloons and [TS]
◼ ► and I still can't see a hot air balloon without thinking if I had I was Jennifer oaks and she's an amazing woman [TS]
◼ ► but this time I finally went I went to the master sent to fight a battle civilian areas it was great it was really good. [TS]
◼ ► Yeah I have learned you spend a lot of time waiting around when you follow the Hot air balloons [TS]
◼ ► Yeah well I noticed the the footage on the video that you sent me is sped up in many places. [TS]
◼ ► Now Never Now I get a creepy feeling in my feet just thinking about being in a hot air balloon over the Alps he feels [TS]
◼ ► The Lehigh Yeah you never feel like you're going to fall are anything although I have to say I did one of the other [TS]
◼ ► and this is actually different balanced this is. They fill balloons up with harsh in this isn't how dare they. [TS]
◼ ► Susan up with Hartigan and then they just all take off on our race and in this case they just all went across Europe [TS]
◼ ► and It's almost a bit of a it's bit of a blinking contest if you know who's going to blink first [TS]
◼ ► and Janet break a world record on one of them for so women balloonist her another woman broke the distance record for [TS]
◼ ► and I watched them all a for it was an amazing sight I made a video and I'll put some links in the shyness [TS]
◼ ► or people who who want to watch the race but on that particular race one of the balloons the went missing and the [TS]
◼ ► and the people in it are they they go into a storm and couldn't get out and plunged into the ocean. [TS]
◼ ► and rice everyone so I saying these famous videos of the ones that catch fire it's not good P.R. [TS]
◼ ► I'm very surprised to hear you say that there are still balloons that use hydrogen because of course the only thing I [TS]
◼ ► can think of is the hidden Burke I thought out didn't we stop with the hydrogen at that point this is quite a [TS]
◼ ► specialized This isn't like touristy stuff this is a very special rice for the pros you know over a simple though the [TS]
◼ ► Flying one of those know it I think that's what happened to those people who died the other was Reserve. [TS]
◼ ► When they do balloons on air crash investigation to somebody right up whatever it is that the P C R B reports that you [TS]
◼ ► like so much I'm sure that I don't know I've never read a hot air balloon crash investigation report [TS]
◼ ► Shape right someone has to write a report on Maginnis them I don't know for sure you've never seen a hot air balloon on [TS]
◼ ► air crash investigators I don't believe I have one thing I did want to talk about from from all of this is it did occur [TS]
◼ ► to me while I was watching all these balloons taking off and two hundred thousand people watching. [TS]
◼ ► and I think probably ninety percent of them taking photos was vetted of us advertising billboard hot air balloons are I [TS]
◼ ► think they're a great way to advertise most of them I think are sponsored by companies smart able anus get some company [TS]
◼ ► to pay for the balloon have their name on it and I've got a toy to play with for the next five years [TS]
◼ ► and the company's got a big flying advert for the next five years there I think they're wonderful wonderful adds a [TS]
◼ ► Everyone loves whether you're scared of going into my not everyone loves a hot air balloon that's exactly what I said [TS]
◼ ► and then you think of Bob's burger joint has also helped make that thing fly Exactly exactly. [TS]
◼ ► I mean it was a genius public relations move by the University of Nottingham to to give Janet the money for herbal [TS]
◼ ► or because she traveled all around the world with a you know there wasn't lying over this for saps in fact on that [TS]
◼ ► Flurry I took a photograph of it flying over the Swiss Alps just just with my normal Cameron I'm no one winning [TS]
◼ ► photographer but when you've got a hot air balloon and mountains you almost can't go wrong. [TS]
◼ ► and a couple of years later I was in the office of the the vice chancellor of the university [TS]
◼ ► That's bloody My photo I don't know how it ended up with him I don't know he got I oversee gave it to the university to [TS]
◼ ► but it was quite it was quite amazing I'm sitting there looking at and I'm not that's my psych I might sing at [TS]
◼ ► but what that reason I make that I make the point is that it shows what wonderful public relations things out that with [TS]
◼ ► all the great things these big universities to the post of the how uni the thing they don't have up on the wall this is [TS]
◼ ► Other I wonder what the rates are for advertising on hot air balloons I mean I don't think they're interchangeable like [TS]
◼ ► that I think you know the envoy like as it's called the balloon so if it is a pretty pair been thing I think you can [TS]
◼ ► I mean one of the problems for how ever learns is that not clickable that's one of the weird things in the world of [TS]
◼ ► advertising is precisely these these brand moments so you can definitely say that the University of Nottingham for [TS]
◼ ► and A lot of recognition from people around the world from seeing the University of Nottingham on the balloon [TS]
◼ ► but yes you can't you can't track it like we do with our advertisements where there is a code that the advertisers know [TS]
◼ ► then exactly I go what's the return on investment for advertising on various things you never have any idea what the [TS]
◼ ► or even just just regular old billboard advertising it's very hard to have any idea about how much is that worth in [TS]
◼ ► terms of just a raw R O Y calculation I mean your rights it must be a nightmare and to measure [TS]
◼ ► but it's still a very real thing and a very important thing that happiness that people feel is real [TS]
◼ ► but it is impossible to put a number on how much should we spend on hot air balloons this year it's not me the [TS]
◼ ► happiness that's a real value like it does convert into stuff I mean there's no better example than the videos I make [TS]
◼ ► and say oh you know you were that Brady got you know I go to this university because of those videos I watch them [TS]
◼ ► when I was SCO and I really love them and therefore I chose the University of Nottingham and you can measure that [TS]
◼ ► or how many people are there because they want so the balloon and they're probably right we'll know that [TS]
◼ ► but it was still money well spent a time well spent say that has to be very strange for you to know that there. [TS]
◼ ► There are students at the university directly because of your work I think of you like that's a very one to one [TS]
◼ ► but in terms of that video to the person relationship is it is amazing I always joke with people who say that I say [TS]
◼ ► don't make any decisions based on May ninth I know where the cheese grater is in my house yelling what university [TS]
◼ ► and The big doctor square on that how cool with that I think there would look really good on a balloon that would be [TS]
◼ ► and it becomes a hazard because I can't think of many great hot air balloons I've seen over the years [TS]
◼ ► There might be a lower gets greater loads I wonder maybe maybe you could put blinking lights around it you could get [TS]
◼ ► around that we don't have the docs could blink the hot air balloon you would have loved that was being tested at this [TS]
◼ ► particular Fiesta was a solar powered hot air balloon and basically it was all Pete was pretty much mostly black [TS]
◼ ► and you would have loved how it looked it was like a kind of at night just looked Co It looked it looked bad ass didn't [TS]
◼ ► but I say it's a video of a savable that would take some pictures up to show people it was made by Cameron balloons up [TS]
◼ ► when I'm typing now because they don't have my quick you work hard now I can tell that worry me [TS]
◼ ► or has it has the the stripe it's a symmetrical little bit black on one side white on the other it's cold looking it is [TS]
◼ ► and things by Laura has to have been as well to heat up if it has burners on board in case of clouds I certainly hope [TS]
◼ ► so even the world of hot air balloons has technological progress within it. Oh yeah definitely. [TS]
◼ ► Let's move on from whatever lines what we got in the follow up list here that we have a lot I think you wanted to talk [TS]
◼ ► about how wrong I was on the Internet you were rooting for him to I mean surely you should know by the out you should [TS]
◼ ► never state something as effect on the progress because never will immediately go and look and if it is not a fact. [TS]
◼ ► but I get this is this I thought was funny we're talking now about the neutral video that we mentioned offhandedly last [TS]
◼ ► but pictures that are all the thumbnail of the that image of the guy in the future on the clip [TS]
◼ ► and then someone circling below at the number of thumbs up or thumbs down being slightly off. [TS]
◼ ► The thing that's interesting to me about this is I feel OK I make these You Tube videos that lots of people watch [TS]
◼ ► when he's you know what a lesson about errors in my videos now than I do an offhanded remark which I'm clearly not even [TS]
◼ ► backing on the pod cast says I I was just speculating I believe that maybe this was hard coded into you do because I've [TS]
◼ ► never seen it be different and a holy God have I heard from people about how it's different. [TS]
◼ ► and not hard coded which is impressive because there are many of these videos around You Tube [TS]
◼ ► and it seems that almost all of them are within five or so always of being the same on the mess up and thumbs down. [TS]
◼ ► Grey Nomads a diligent nerds are diligent The Probably a few people watching them with with O.C.D. [TS]
◼ ► Yeah so another little piece of follow up with something Atia got to tell you about which was a nice little story let's [TS]
◼ ► talk about ports for a second OK you having you're having a million about your airport you hate so much. [TS]
◼ ► Yeah especially Dallas Daily I do love a good moan about Dulles is actually what you know if there are many nice [TS]
◼ ► Welcome talk endlessly about the less which I hate I wonder if like the head of published it in public relations at [TS]
◼ ► Dulles Airport get stuck chills down their spine every time you have ever into its relation. [TS]
◼ ► Yeah he has a Google Alert out that thirty hello internet Pigford mentions of Dulles to know if you need to go into [TS]
◼ ► Damage mode I don't even talk last time about the birds that were flying there is a Others too much to complain about. [TS]
◼ ► Can't even mention everything that happens every time I go there in a committee meeting right now saying am I going to [TS]
◼ ► but if you praying you're going to read this one dollars Airport I will not accept your advertising dollars dollars [TS]
◼ ► and I'd charge them double you take that maybe he just wouldn't do the raid Yeah I think maybe that would even be [TS]
◼ ► better let me tell you about an airport Well actually I have it is kind of a problem for the airport [TS]
◼ ► OK When I arrived at Marrakesh a few weeks back now will set the front of the plane so we got our first [TS]
◼ ► and there were lots of people standing around as there often are at these airports in exotic countries the culturally I [TS]
◼ ► and because we are at the front of the Kerry we quit straight three we were first ones very absolute berries [TS]
◼ ► and I think behind us there must have been some family of eighteen people who all want to carry through together [TS]
◼ ► and half of them didn't have their passports or something because whatever happened with the we went through [TS]
◼ ► and obviously there was no I want to take them we were the only people in the bank it show we were the only people the [TS]
◼ ► place was completely empty it was amazing was huge huge area just two of us the carousel fill it up with all the bat [TS]
◼ ► with all the bags it could it could take right and because it was no one to take them away that was it. [TS]
◼ ► So so they couldn't put anymore bags on the carousel so we were just standing there watching the same bags going past [TS]
◼ ► not Abbott's thinking well we're going to be stuck in now until everyone else gets three possible control [TS]
◼ ► and it was do no one through fifteen twenty minutes not a single cell that come through OK this is getting suspicious. [TS]
◼ ► I was I mean how big was this plane how far ahead where you it wasn't it was just an it was an easy chip line everyone [TS]
◼ ► was in the queue the next people behind us were standing right behind us every woman standing behind us there was I [TS]
◼ ► when they are I like how on earth can you be the only people I don't know I don't know it right up to a promise I'm [TS]
◼ ► and around the same time this this Moroccan man picked his head through to see what was going on a wire. [TS]
◼ ► None of the bags were were moving there we kind of men are eyes and and he looked into the hole [TS]
◼ ► and see that black white under those two red ones to the right of that blue one and he's this one here [TS]
◼ ► and said here that want that second one up on the other trolley No no no not that one that one now I know below that [TS]
◼ ► what this one yes and he sort of pulled it out like a like a gentler pace and all the other begs came toppling down [TS]
◼ ► and then he physically pass them through the How To Be Like handed them to be hand to hand it was a brilliant [TS]
◼ ► and they were still a service it was rarely if ever so I slipped into the money I tipped him as like thanks man you [TS]
◼ ► saved me a lot of pain and and then we went off through and got cab got a car that was waiting for us. [TS]
◼ ► Still no to come very So I would have been there forever waiting for those other people if it wasn't for that nice man. [TS]
◼ ► That's all ahead on me I need to tell of them if they're guilty but it was all had in my pocket. [TS]
◼ ► They guy America ship thumbs up thumbs up for their valley luggage service some stab for their passport control if you [TS]
◼ ► know the first two people in the line I'm very glad that your bags came through in that you have this nice little [TS]
◼ ► but my mind just keep focusing on hair were all the other people that's a part of the story that I keep wanting to go [TS]
◼ ► Yeah to you don't you don't think about who's behind you cry you crack on you walk faster that passport control you you [TS]
◼ ► and slow old ladies in front of you that you can stride on by fast as possible without actually breaking into a run so [TS]
◼ ► you look like a jerk if I go in August walking fast trying to get past everybody because if you're at the if you're at [TS]
◼ ► This does just remind me that I made a little note about something on my last flight where I wanted to tell you that [TS]
◼ ► or not the self checkout machines in the grocery stores are faster or not remember this. Yes Yeah. [TS]
◼ ► Don't get excited because I'm not going to tell you that you're right there you're totally wrong. [TS]
◼ ► OK However I'm pretty sure I made some broad sweeping statement about how I using the machines are always faster. [TS]
◼ ► Let me tell you I ran into a machine while traveling were all I could think of was I was just shaking my little fist [TS]
◼ ► and I was going through customs the United States has the equivalent of the grocery checkout machines for going through [TS]
◼ ► Citizen is this customs or passport control immigration I mean where they're checking your passport [TS]
◼ ► and seeing if they're going to let you into the country where you know that have that most U.K. Upwards now as well. [TS]
◼ ► Yeah I've never seen them before and I walk up and I go oh OK well I'm sure this is going to be great [TS]
◼ ► and ice little automated machine it's certainly going to speed up the line No it's not going to speed up the line I [TS]
◼ ► and I was standing there watching everybody else trying to scan their passport and I'm trying to scan my passport [TS]
◼ ► and the little machine goes just be tricky is buzzing at me saying it's not scanning the passport correctly [TS]
◼ ► and I'm looking around and I see maybe the twenty other people who are also using these machines. [TS]
◼ ► Everybody is having a hard time scanning these little passports Yeah something what's going on I was determined I'm [TS]
◼ ► going to figure out this machine I'm not going to ask the nice lady for help I'm going to figure this out the design of [TS]
◼ ► or was that you have to hold your passports stick it in this little tunnel basically for the scanner you have to put [TS]
◼ ► and inside the tunnel where you cannot see your hand much like those secret voting boxes that we were talking about on [TS]
◼ ► our special episode inside there there's a little lever that you have to reach for with your hand that you can't see to [TS]
◼ ► pull down and it pulls down some scanner on top of your passport but you have to do it physically with your hand. [TS]
◼ ► Otherwise the machine will not scan the passport I care that is a little bit more is where it [TS]
◼ ► and it did work I pulled down the little lever so that it eventually scanned my passport it puts everything up on the [TS]
◼ ► and of course because the United States the machine also takes a little picture of you because I'm sure it's going into [TS]
◼ ► a gigantic database somewhere you know who knows where but somewhere they know that goes into this database [TS]
◼ ► but I figured OK It least I figured it out I can make it happen really fast the next time next time I use it will be [TS]
◼ ► and then you just get in the line totally is normal then you still have to talk to the regular guy who asks you all the [TS]
◼ ► but he also scans your passport it was just again an astounding example of this like bizarre airports inefficiency is a [TS]
◼ ► or fifty people waiting in like the human flesh line and there was a five or six people in the row by a lion [TS]
◼ ► and a store I go into the rubber line and the woman there who was like shipping paper three just looked at me [TS]
◼ ► I walked away I was I hear your system that's the person to trust I mean the British ones are not a stupid Is that what [TS]
◼ ► you just said with all these new levels in that and never reasonably simple to use I I can use them [TS]
◼ ► but I swear they must have some kind of brain zapping laser because I'm a soon as people walk into them they become [TS]
◼ ► and I just stand there watching them go for goodness sake I just want to go on yank the past we're out of the hands I [TS]
◼ ► Airport at a different machine which didn't have this mechanism I have scanned my passport at many airports that don't [TS]
◼ ► have this mechanism and almost everybody who's on this plane with me has certainly done the same thing. [TS]
◼ ► Difference for the second time for almost everybody who's getting off the plane right because everybody who boarded [TS]
◼ ► and now you introduce this new more complicated thing at the end of the flight that they have to scan it was like hey [TS]
◼ ► Might cost a hundred bucks more per machine those things it may be but I was looking at those machines [TS]
◼ ► and I'm looking at everybody's struggling through them and I thought there is no way this is clearing the line faster. [TS]
◼ ► My suspicion is that the whole purpose of that machine is actually the part where it takes your photo I thought this is [TS]
◼ ► why they're doing this is to build some gigantic database it's not at all about making the line any faster I take your [TS]
◼ ► Line as well but you have to look at it a little camera and I take a picture they have never done that if you are a U.S. [TS]
◼ ► They take my side I owe my fingerprints and then give me a twenty minute interview about each a video as air travel. [TS]
◼ ► and that is just works if you have a small business than just works is for you Just Works dot com helps you run payroll [TS]
◼ ► TOS negotiate health care prices as a small business owner These are all things that you have to do [TS]
◼ ► and help you save on health care it's just that simple if you go to just work dot com You can see examples of their [TS]
◼ ► and you feel overwhelmed by the amount of busy paperwork that you have to do which isn't really the core of your [TS]
◼ ► and let's just works know that you came from our podcast Just Work dot com helps you take care of your small business [TS]
◼ ► and your team I just want to very quickly to my new favorite thing which I know you don't like. [TS]
◼ ► I'm quickly going to give people an update on where the two hello internet flagships as we record we are the only put [TS]
◼ ► cast in the world that has official flagships but they're not official flags are there no official flagship space [TS]
◼ ► and nothing official about them their unofficial flagships there like mascots that mascot ships how Internet of course [TS]
◼ ► Gino was like to because I looked a little bit about where it's going to pay over the next year. [TS]
◼ ► and I don't think it's coming back for quite some time this might be at only chance to join a head down to south [TS]
◼ ► and I just love saying knots so what's the Not that I never know what home fast little bad of mph while they say mph [TS]
◼ ► The SES is docked at Key West so I said for those of you following the progress of a mascot ships there you go. [TS]
◼ ► Following the non-live progress of the ships because by the time they hear this part gas those ships are somewhere else [TS]
◼ ► or whatever going to do with imagine that if I had dinner with the captain of anthem at the say now that to be pretty [TS]
◼ ► and if you were having dinner with a ship captain what sort of things which you ask Well I'd really want the ship [TS]
◼ ► Oh yeah that's the thing that I would run the Sarah Lee on board with your hair straight to the engine room I'd be I'd [TS]
◼ ► be less stuff is MY Let's let's say on the move I want to pull the horn Yes yes I want to see the engine room I want to [TS]
◼ ► and I want to see a maps I expect to hear all about the engine room after you have dinner with the captive breeding [TS]
◼ ► or that he might not take me down a mutt he might have lots of questions he wants to ask me about video isn't part [TS]
◼ ► and who will not tell you tell me about what software yet are that's going to be the Congress tell me about your band [TS]
◼ ► with problems listening to you too. How long does it take to process the video I'm so excited. [TS]
◼ ► Gray really looks like let's move on from ships because if we talk about them for any longer I'm just going to give you [TS]
◼ ► but I can get over the fear your finger hovering over the big button in fact you probably start recording at the moment [TS]
◼ ► and doubting me shall I indulge you even further by introducing the next topic which is freebooting takes the world by [TS]
◼ ► Illegals taking and react loading in hosting of on line content particular videos. We have to let it go. [TS]
◼ ► It's it's gotten bigger than us and it has left the nest and gone into the world to place its own path [TS]
◼ ► and arm while I will forever be proud of it. And our little role in in its creation it's moved on. [TS]
◼ ► and I think the reason why you're describing it this way in that the word has moved on is that we have for the first [TS]
◼ ► time seen people use the word freebooting without making any reference to Brady Herrin and C.P.G. [TS]
◼ ► but in addition to that it has sort of also gone into some bigger bigger reign as now I mean we saw we saw Hank grain [TS]
◼ ► user in his excellent article that he recently wrote about that favorite thing we've seen on the baby see website [TS]
◼ ► and the days of us getting excited going your Look that's a little victory for us they're over [TS]
◼ ► but also I think it's really important to really quickly point out that while we will always joke around about the word [TS]
◼ ► and its and its humble origins here and hello internet free trading itself is very serious issue. Do not agree. [TS]
◼ ► Yes that is what I know I love thing I'm agreeing you don't know you're laughing I'm laughing because of your tone of [TS]
◼ ► Certainly doesn't sound like there was a funny story in a picture that came from Destin in Alabama I think away Cotto a [TS]
◼ ► and he has also been one of the real trial places using the term for evading and his local T.V. [TS]
◼ ► but this is what I've sort of sketch together from various text messages we've shared I think his local T.V. [TS]
◼ ► and spoke to him about it I haven't actually seen the report yet but what happened was they then said to him. [TS]
◼ ► Destine Can we please use some of the footage from your free version video to kind of illustrate our report. [TS]
◼ ► and presumably footage of destiny which makes perfect sense because you know they want to catch him in the terms of [TS]
◼ ► and Sherry shown example of so of course distance said Yes you know in that go ahead you can use my footage so you know [TS]
◼ ► and the one clip they took at to use with the clip that he borrowed for me of orgy playing with bubbles [TS]
◼ ► and they put they put that into their report and had that like Mark to You Tube dot com slash matter every day [TS]
◼ ► Desson of course did have permission to that but with what age but I don't know about Alabama. [TS]
◼ ► Television stations I don't think permission is a transitive property destine thought it was hilarious set me if I die [TS]
◼ ► of the from the reports I have a look at this it is pretty funny about that you touched upon the reason why I think [TS]
◼ ► this word has now come into its own is that while you know it has left our house of hello internet [TS]
◼ ► and it has gone in many ways to the house of Facebook to cause a lot of problems because that's where I see it always [TS]
◼ ► being used in in context is talking about the changes that are happening at Facebook as Facebook is clearly making some [TS]
◼ ► but that's where the word is always being used about how Facebook is making money off of other people's content [TS]
◼ ► and so I this is where I have seen it being used as describing this as Facebook freebooting. [TS]
◼ ► and that was partly the topic of of Hanks' article yacking about how Facebook is doing things like inflating the [TS]
◼ ► numbers of views on their videos by huge orders of magnitude if a video appears anywhere on someone's Facebook feed [TS]
◼ ► and I owe you watch this for a tenth of a second before you hit pause that totally counts as a view [TS]
◼ ► and that's part of the reason why the view numbers on Facebook are just astronomical he sees the numbers just in the [TS]
◼ ► when it like there's not enough humans on Earth to have caused all these views was like oh no it totally counts all of [TS]
◼ ► and that's where we also see the word freebooting come into play because it's a nice alliteration it is Facebook [TS]
◼ ► and I can't even tax credit for that I think destine start at that with these videos allowed to acquit them serious [TS]
◼ ► thing then before we continue with our various bits a follow up to causing the tone you have favored because all I have [TS]
◼ ► had a little interesting interaction over the last couple of days so I thought I'd tell Well I'll tell you about I have [TS]
◼ ► News and those people listening to how they would set can a stripe because that's pretty much how this works. [TS]
◼ ► Yep now there is a this all relates to a Twitter account a twist of fate at this stage I don't I do NOT going to say [TS]
◼ ► what it is because I want to give him free publicist a part right because also I don't want to sort of the lynch mob [TS]
◼ ► or judge and jury over an individual you know you know how I feel about that so I don't want to be too. [TS]
◼ ► but there is this Twitter account which I came across this week actually just set the Twitter handle to you not twenty [TS]
◼ ► How would you explain this to Twitter accounts to paypal just scrolling through and looking at it right now [TS]
◼ ► and this is an account that tweets gifts and they're tweeting. Gifts mainly from science or science the related videos. [TS]
◼ ► I mean it's just an endless list of stuff they didn't make much of which is actually water marked with the real [TS]
◼ ► and it is clearly cropped very awkwardly So this is one that that someone decided they could take out the water mark. [TS]
◼ ► but it is it is basically a freebooting type of account because they're taking the best parts from various science videos [TS]
◼ ► from various creators and tweeting it's without any link back to the author even at a bare minimum [TS]
◼ ► and even if they were doing that I wouldn't condone it but I certainly not doing that either. [TS]
◼ ► but they're not even doing that that the barest of bare minimums of saying oh this comes from a video with whatever [TS]
◼ ► Exactly I think this is like the online video equivalent of one of those rooms they have a police station just full of [TS]
◼ ► Nice to be whether the battle line is drawn but I think the sort of gee if gift free boating is OSA really big issue [TS]
◼ ► and perhaps once Facebook saw there has set up this is the next place where this battle needs to be for the Sony Well I [TS]
◼ ► and there still are lots of clips from my videos in there now I am far from the handy victim as we speak now you see [TS]
◼ ► and I'm sure destiny must be on there as well as his video to say good for that sort of thing this is one of the parts [TS]
◼ ► Gray video doesn't really make sense if you haven't got the home video you don't normally have a golden bullet that can [TS]
◼ ► be stolen from your video but I do have the problem where someone takes all of the slides from my video [TS]
◼ ► and writes an article with a little caption below each of the it becomes like a like a Power Point almost it'll turn [TS]
◼ ► I can understand why it happens but the gift freebooting is huge where I see it for example is on Reddit Yes [TS]
◼ ► when a gif of a video makes it to the front page where even linking to the video would be a vastly more enjoy it will [TS]
◼ ► experience than linking to the gifts I find it very surprising but there's something about a gift [TS]
◼ ► and encouraged credibility even in situations where a gift seems like the worst possible way to show whatever it is you [TS]
◼ ► want to show I find it very very surprising how how fast and how far just the worst gifts can spread. [TS]
◼ ► and I kind of was just lying in bed so I actually had to decide on have a look at what the press. [TS]
◼ ► Oh yeah I never had to do it either interesting Yes So anyway I went through the process it wasn't too bad it was like [TS]
◼ ► all these copyright processes they put quite a few hurdles in your way and they make you work for the right [TS]
◼ ► but I did it for two of these gifts that I've found I I reported them that been on the Twitter feed for quite a while [TS]
◼ ► and favorite in the thousands of times so they had paid I had gone everywhere you know that day was done [TS]
◼ ► but before I got to any of that I received an email from the person who runs the Twitter account. [TS]
◼ ► Hey Brady are so you filed a copyright climb for one of my GIF images I've shared I've removed both of the pictures [TS]
◼ ► Yeah I've had this thing on and then he helpfully said and he's there more content you want removed. [TS]
◼ ► I will gladly tell you say so I didn't reply to that because like you said we get that kind of thing a bit. [TS]
◼ ► Let me interject something here which is just that the listener understands the reason it sounds like Twitter has a [TS]
◼ ► and the reason he wants you to remove your copyright complaint is it leaves the way it works on You Tube is that if a [TS]
◼ ► You Tube channel has I think it's three simultaneous outstanding copyright complaint against it that channel the whole [TS]
◼ ► thing will just get taken down so there's a cumulative punishment for repeatedly infringing copyright on You Tube which [TS]
◼ ► You convince the person who filed the claim against you to remove it you just basically have another free shot at [TS]
◼ ► infringement every single time I ever file a copyright complaint against anybody I hear back from them saying Oh we [TS]
◼ ► and please remove the complaint which as far as I'm concerned is just a request like please allow us to continue. [TS]
◼ ► but then I got an even longer e-mail ready Heron I am the owner of Twitter dot com slash the name of this account which [TS]
◼ ► GIF images from all over the internet I do not profit from the tweets I simply do it for fun. [TS]
◼ ► Let me stop there can I just say this Twitter Cam has approaching nine hundred thousand followers [TS]
◼ ► and if you think building a following of nine hundred thousand people on Twitter is not a form of profit profit you [TS]
◼ ► have made with this material which I think a lot of you shouldn't have I think to defend on the whole prophet thing [TS]
◼ ► and then the final sentences would you mind taking down the notice the hits and I wanted to withdraw my my thing [TS]
◼ ► and also said I thought this was unbelievably cheeky and also Would you send the clips you would like me to upload. [TS]
◼ ► Anyway I did rip I did reply at this point I believe I was polite and respectful and I wish them success [TS]
◼ ► but I also made my position clear about what I thought was not right about what they were doing [TS]
◼ ► and I got another really long reply I won't read it all but I'll try and find a couple highlights here. [TS]
◼ ► Brady I'm sorry you feel this way I've been going through all the content trying to remove anything that seems to [TS]
◼ ► affect your you chip general than I thought it was more of a free promotion as if someone wanted to watch the full clip [TS]
◼ ► That's a crazy claim because lives virtually no identification of what what the clip is a where it's from [TS]
◼ ► and you would have to you have to have very good google fu to go from these animated gifs to find my video [TS]
◼ ► The actual video only ever afford a five second gif and no sound and I mostly find my content from read it [TS]
◼ ► or nine gag which is why I was unaware so they're saying I don't even know where it came from I just took it from [TS]
◼ ► Ferrari other people watch the video but I don't even know where it's from science gives a very popular on Reddit [TS]
◼ ► and usually if you look at the tweets someone post the video so does to traffic to your videos also I thought I was [TS]
◼ ► within fair use Polish policy as I'm sharing for knowledge purposes only I also still state in the Twitter bio that I [TS]
◼ ► and also has also in the Twitter by and there is and and there was a removal request I have my email in the by [TS]
◼ ► and I always remove So I mean he's basically saying I put the mail there because I'm always getting complaints [TS]
◼ ► and told to remove stuff he says hopefully we can resolve this I'd be happy to work with you in the future are feel [TS]
◼ ► and My sorry for my computer I know you do I know you think it's different because the let's let's let's cysto I feel [TS]
◼ ► and so I've I've suffered I have suffered even unknowingly in this case but I've suffered for a little R. [TS]
◼ ► and You Saif and I know I know you've kind of done without and I've benefited from having it for the last few weeks [TS]
◼ ► but I've given up back can you not press charges because I don't want the police on to make because if the police are [TS]
◼ ► Encipher can you can you not press charges so the police went prosecute me on by the way I've still got your computer [TS]
◼ ► but we will draw from at the value that is within it because in this analogy if we were continuing it further other [TS]
◼ ► and He would be asking if it's OK for him to continue using the T.V. As long as he tells everybody that it's your T.V. [TS]
◼ ► Good for her his this falling down into a mess of that a new to Latino a lot of other alike A Different know even what [TS]
◼ ► that even the heart of the terrible the one point that jumped out to me on this which is a conversation that I see [TS]
◼ ► but I just want to put on the record here is someone will link to say a free booted material [TS]
◼ ► And because Reddit is usually pretty good about someone knows where this thing is from the top comment will almost [TS]
◼ ► always be over this source is this thing right so if you click on the discussion you'll see right away at the top. [TS]
◼ ► As as someone who has had many things on Reddit I've even gotten things on the front page of read it [TS]
◼ ► but it can be a difference of two orders of magnitude how many people click on the link on Reddit to go to the [TS]
◼ ► infringed thing versus how many people click on that comment that says oh the original source is from here think it is [TS]
◼ ► by no means making up for it or making it OK and I just see people say like oh isn't it isn't it free promotion. [TS]
◼ ► and I always feel like if the people making the things are don't want this kind of promotion it should be pretty clear [TS]
◼ ► and I even get tweet sometimes people say oh I saw your video on some news channel in some foreign country [TS]
◼ ► and you know isn't that great promotion for you and it's always like news to me that is there [TS]
◼ ► and I would never agree to it if they ask me ahead of time which is precisely why they don't so it's just further [TS]
◼ ► discussions in the frustrations of online creators when this exchange first started it did cross my. [TS]
◼ ► Mind that maybe I was I was going to be dealing with a kid to retain nature because you know kids [TS]
◼ ► and there were points during this exchange where I was stunned by the naive it eating displayed that I thought maybe it [TS]
◼ ► but than the naive ity in the lack of understanding of what's going on here is is starting to me [TS]
◼ ► and for someone like that to then have wield the power of nine hundred thousand Twitter followers is we live in [TS]
◼ ► but one of the key factors is does the use of the material impact the market for the original thing. [TS]
◼ ► Yeah and without a doubt the use these gifts just totally decimate the market for the original thing. [TS]
◼ ► and wants to watch the rest of it because they've already seen the heart of it like that's not what fair use is what [TS]
◼ ► everybody seems to take fair use as oh I'm not making any money and I like sharing this so isn't that fair [TS]
◼ ► and the other thing I find a little bit frustrating is there seems to be this mindset towards educational material that [TS]
◼ ► Kansas going into all of that everything could be shared in ever and it's all one big group hug and [TS]
◼ ► and if I'm sharing knowledge and talking about knowledge and facts and information around helping educate people [TS]
◼ ► and I'm using your awesome footage do it that's OK because education is good and education is good [TS]
◼ ► but I tell you what you've got to start a Twitter account where you just show gifts of every home run hitter in Major [TS]
◼ ► and you see how long that countless I've spoken to some people who work in the world of writing educational books [TS]
◼ ► and the things that publishers will say to them is is just shocking words I owe you do you want to get paid what a [TS]
◼ ► and we don't really need to pay for that right because you just love you just love sharing knowledge [TS]
◼ ► and who just keep all that like the money there's still money somewhere it hasn't just disappeared [TS]
◼ ► but you know there's this weird in the whole industry of media production this this kind of this presumption of of [TS]
◼ ► Towards anything that is vaguely educational if it's I think it's kind of understandable that feeling [TS]
◼ ► but it's still very frustrating if you are the producer of educational material that also lots of people want to watch [TS]
◼ ► or let's take money out of the equation for a second let's pretend we live in a world where money doesn't matter [TS]
◼ ► and we have a different currency and say the currency was Twitter followers or you choose subscribers or just fan [TS]
◼ ► and people like at stealing that they're building they're following based on my content and [TS]
◼ ► and they could have been people that started following me instead so even if they haven't stolen dollars from my wallet [TS]
◼ ► Current say I often think that the real currency that we deal with on the Internet is human time and attention [TS]
◼ ► when you're on the internet that is really the currency exchange that is happening between various parties is how how [TS]
◼ ► and I do think those are those are two slightly different things you know how much time do you spend on something [TS]
◼ ► and how much attention do you pay to something that that's that's like the bottom level of the economy really [TS]
◼ ► and then other and other things are built on top of that but particularly on the Internet or yes a science. [TS]
◼ ► Twitter account that's taking other people's stuff you can measure the amount of human time [TS]
◼ ► and attention that they have acquired for themselves do you have any other thoughts hearing any of that exchange we [TS]
◼ ► struck by anything this interaction with the with the real life free version I mean there really is a it's just it [TS]
◼ ► sounds so very similar to the same things that I get for myself every time you try to track someone down which is why I [TS]
◼ ► don't really think that it was as you were saying before naive it say I just think it's a situation where if I'm [TS]
◼ ► hearing the same thing from everybody every time there's anything going on about infringement as I think I think they [TS]
◼ ► know and they're just running down the list of plausible deniability reasons trying to delay [TS]
◼ ► Yeah maybe I'm not maybe at this I thought this person was cheap it maybe I'm not giving them enough credit. [TS]
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◼ ► but also learn all about how it works it's really pretty and and here's the important bit the code hello internet. [TS]
◼ ► Oh one word will get you fifteen percent of your first order fifteen percent that's the word hello internet use that [TS]
◼ ► I've got something I'm really looking forward to great things in jobs that people do all this name to the hello [TS]
◼ ► but I haven't got loads you now I'm just going to a couple of quickies first of all my most important question is are [TS]
◼ ► Oho I think that the paper is a fundamental part of stuff people do while listening to the pod cast corner I really [TS]
◼ ► or read a current member where my current member who wrote some Sorry for not giving you a name check [TS]
◼ ► but with I were talking about LA last times things people do while this need to hello internet podcast Cora you know [TS]
◼ ► how I've built it up and said This is amazing and you said and your wired it wasn't going to be amazing. [TS]
◼ ► or set out lay out if this job doesn't end up involving Barack Obama I'm going to be disappointed [TS]
◼ ► Anyway we haven't got anything quite so Presidential this time but I've got to quick is that I like. [TS]
◼ ► and more talk about it more light of it would still a couple of quickies Now this one comes from Emilie [TS]
◼ ► and it occurred to me that you especially Brady might be interested in what I do I'm a member of the operations team on [TS]
◼ ► the Cassini mission. Cool I don't control the spacecraft directly but I thought you'd both enjoy knowing sometimes. [TS]
◼ ► Summer in the world there is someone listening to your pockets while she designs. Observations for a camera. [TS]
◼ ► Emilie I mean Cassini is that's pretty good that's the glamour mission for me as well I mean that's like that's that's [TS]
◼ ► the pretty boy space mission is a net with all those great fighters a Saturn you can't go wrong. [TS]
◼ ► but pictures of Saturn Saturn you know is unusually photogenic for a planet. So there's M.L.A. Obviously designing. [TS]
◼ ► Servatius I'd like to know more about what that means presumably she programs what what's going to point [TS]
◼ ► but you can certainly email me again Emily you cannot email me too many times about what you do on the Cassini mission [TS]
◼ ► and I'll just do one more this one comes from someone who sounds various trailer comes from Dave Dave says get a [TS]
◼ ► First off I'd like to tell Bradley hey hey that I'm a fairly Adelaide Ian had to move for employment however as a kid I [TS]
◼ ► but him call the black stump that makes me think Dave might be younger than me because it was only really famous before [TS]
◼ ► when it was the tallest building and when it was no longer the tallest building it kind of fell into obscurity [TS]
◼ ► but maybe who knows. Anyway let's hear about Dave's job because that's where things get really interesting. [TS]
◼ ► Adelaide like the secret keyword to getting through you just saying that has reminded me of several other Adelaide [TS]
◼ ► Oh those are my job may not seem the most exciting think again. I absolutely love it. I drive a fuel truck. Code an A.P. [TS]
◼ ► Quad in the outback Western Australia Western Australia was the biggest day of a strategy of its massive my truck fully [TS]
◼ ► and a bit of petrol for service in remote areas. Surveys as well. A strange Coast service stations of carriages. [TS]
◼ ► The run I was all the run I do is about fifteen hundred kilometers around trip from depo to the mine site. [TS]
◼ ► Another about the truck I can't tell you how to support that was to read those words because I could have heard about [TS]
◼ ► that truck forever for a feeling of ways but more about the know that will come back to the truck [TS]
◼ ► and all of the gang of listening to this is this sounds like a truck to have in a Mad Max style apocalyptic future. [TS]
◼ ► and that's about the track I listen to your podcast on the twelve hour shifts I drive on the track it was a good laugh [TS]
◼ ► Brackets apparently because of terrorists over according of our trucks is banned and brackets. [TS]
◼ ► and he attaches a picture of this sort of semi trailer with one to do let me see the missing who are all five fuel [TS]
◼ ► tanks talking behind it and I'm going to send it to you now in between all the waking up and looking my hand [TS]
◼ ► and let me get it for you actually was going to send it to you I didn't think I'd be so mean to hang on no I want to [TS]
◼ ► when you go play with Audrey I'm going to look at this drawing books I'm sending that destiny he would like it [TS]
◼ ► but he might get confusing. He's going to love it. I'd send a test and hippo The reply was I'm not. [TS]
◼ ► Yep drove one of them yesterday. Yeah there we go you should have. Wow if trucks could be snakes that's what this. [TS]
◼ ► but obviously the use need so much fuel that those mines I have never seen anything like this just to describe it it's [TS]
◼ ► I mean usually I've seen the truck and it has the single cylindrical container behind it that's on an additional four [TS]
◼ ► but this picture that he sent of a similar truck has four of them it looks like chained up behind it I didn't even know [TS]
◼ ► but in some ways it's as impressive this is very interesting to me you know this is the I like logistics I wonder if [TS]
◼ ► these things are even allowed in the US I've never I've driven a lot around the US on a lot of roads where there's a [TS]
◼ ► lot of a lot of cargo being transported and I have never seen anything like this I wonder if it even exists in the U.S. [TS]
◼ ► or If this is just a bad ass Australian thing that I prepare pretty pretty hard as nails over there say yeah I just did [TS]
◼ ► and the tend to talk images the one he sent So that's obviously where he got it so if you look at that we get paid your [TS]
◼ ► article you look at all the different rules and regulations and classes and there's these cake last one [TS]
◼ ► Kota power trine or a body and six there's a whole bunch of stuff about them on Wicca Paideia of course. [TS]
◼ ► and now I want to see one in real life I want to see one of these key trains with one two three four five six seven [TS]
◼ ► or I want I want to say one with the hello internet podcast on the phone in front of it I'm not going to lie there any [TS]
◼ ► Hello Internet logo on your i Phone in front of the stream that would be that would be appreciated by would really like [TS]
◼ ► or tree she's got not how is Audrey making that much noise. She's court knows me for that one. [TS]
◼ ► Are Now she goes silent because she's getting attention she just makes them a snuffly knows you get the picture. [TS]
◼ ► The dogs a sleeping at your feet. All right let's move on I don't know what to do about O.J. [TS]
◼ ► That I'm just gonna lay for a minute she starts getting to know as a well I think I'm on your bed [TS]
◼ ► OK cry this is that moment we've all been waiting for in the last park asked we heard from a listener who has gustatory [TS]
◼ ► and they sent a list of ten words that they wanted to be said by you because I thought I would taste interesting they [TS]
◼ ► and knew how excited I was that there was a word that might sound better for me so they have been in touch since you [TS]
◼ ► and they tell us which one of us says are in a more tasty Why then are you ready for this. OK let's go. [TS]
◼ ► Because Ari because now because tastes like Frank and pains and it tastes better when I say it. Welcome welcome. [TS]
◼ ► Taste like something that I don't actually know what this is that maybe you do a graham cracker [TS]
◼ ► or graham cracker I don't know that is its purpose. I was about to say in the most unhelpful way it tastes. [TS]
◼ ► Graham cracker e does I don't know how I feel like oh a graham cracker their thing you give kids you know in [TS]
◼ ► kindergarten to munch on a lace waitress a very slightly sweet the a soft a soft I don't know what to compare them to [TS]
◼ ► Well OK here's the thing it's their staff because when you're a little kid you gum on them write any [TS]
◼ ► and they sort of become soft in your mouth I don't has gotten their cookie like is the best description maybe. [TS]
◼ ► but only just apparently it was very close run next word before before that is rich pay not butter crackers [TS]
◼ ► and there is a tie between the two of us the next word is like like that taste like cottage cheese [TS]
◼ ► when Gray says that unusually strong your lot is very coaches cheesy gray Next we have into group interger macaroni [TS]
◼ ► but I have a very high standard for this one because of the way my calculus teacher said at which tasted very good [TS]
◼ ► possibility possibility this is if you silly pastor a pastor with red sauce and grated cheese. [TS]
◼ ► when Grace said it I have to say listening to all of this I am very glad that I do not have gustatory synaesthesia [TS]
◼ ► Tomato soup and it tastes better when Gray says the next word family family but now and it tastes better [TS]
◼ ► when Grace as an owner of banana taste like banana hard and I think a question actually I did. [TS]
◼ ► When you say the food does it taste like the food I wonder if there are like special words that about you know a lot [TS]
◼ ► and passion passion some sort of barely carbonated fruit juice substance that I've never quite been able to place [TS]
◼ ► but I think there is melon involved and apparently both of us pronounce it in a way that tastes better than average. [TS]
◼ ► Seems appropriate and as I suspected it taste significantly better when Brady said your accent makes words with. [TS]
◼ ► Becomes a daylight you're saying party not party yeah that's part that's partly my my growing up in New York. [TS]
◼ ► Transition I have a very hard time with words like that words like water as I cannot say that word normally with a T [TS]
◼ ► or I say water you can tell grades at the word Norty is completely tasteless for me the vast majority of words don't [TS]
◼ ► So I replied with a few little follow up requests so of course of the bit of extra information for you here. [TS]
◼ ► and apparently they don't the only two names of people that do have ties to paranoia emulate which takes like banana [TS]
◼ ► and Rachel which tastes like Cherry And I did confirm that both Derek and to not have tests [TS]
◼ ► and this is want to thank the hello internet listeners for in many ways so I'm sure people remember you [TS]
◼ ► and I both spoke about the album the race for space by Public Service Broadcasting which I love. [TS]
◼ ► Yeah and you spoke quite highly of as well I thought it was good he was not for me personally [TS]
◼ ► but Hatch Lee I have listened to it a couple more times since then I feel like it might be growing on me ever so [TS]
◼ ► Brilliant out pretty eminent for those who don't remember it's this these musicians this band that combine disco modern [TS]
◼ ► Sputnik in Eureka Garren in the Apollo missions using all the old broadcasts from the time that all the out NASA radio [TS]
◼ ► and they too are in a really clever way really clever way is the Brady album couldn't be more for Brady It couldn't be [TS]
◼ ► and one of the songs they did before they someone of their other albums about Mount Everest so I was joking that these [TS]
◼ ► are like my dream people thought I was beginning it up in the flesh ring way that these things happen a lot of the [TS]
◼ ► listeners gave a try based on a recommendation and a lot of people said they really liked it [TS]
◼ ► and a lot of them said so on Twitter and on social media saying thanks for the recommendation [TS]
◼ ► and shouted out to the band as well this is that there are a London based band then as a result suddenly I think these [TS]
◼ ► guys were saying kind of their Twitter faith full of a lot of talk about hello internet and at Brady Haran and C.D.P. [TS]
◼ ► and they actually performed at the question be music festival that I went to and I had actually a range to try [TS]
◼ ► Leading question barely I'm one of the guys in the band wasn't well so that never happened so I thought well that's an [TS]
◼ ► and amazingly the sort of the the creative force behind the band kind of the main the main man who served his stage [TS]
◼ ► name is Jay will goose Squire interesting character that does not is real name at the stage name apparently So anyway I [TS]
◼ ► and appear as a special guest in my objectivity video you bring everybody to the Royal Society though I think that was [TS]
◼ ► obviously that was obviously the bite so so he came along and I had actually a range with Kate. [TS]
◼ ► The head librarian and we arranged a series of really amazing space artifacts to do with Sputnik and Garren [TS]
◼ ► and Apollo we got some real amazing things that that I was rolling all over and we took Jay down to save them [TS]
◼ ► and had a really good time got along really well and that wouldn't be possible if it wasn't for hello internet [TS]
◼ ► and then the the instilling good comments from hello internet listeners the made moral of the story here is if you ever [TS]
◼ ► do anything because of hello internet that you think could have any positive anything positive coming from [TS]
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◼ ► and hopefully in the wake of this podcast goes out that video might be as well and people can can have a look [TS]
◼ ► but it was it was Rico were you able to convince him to do that adorable to our based album we were discussing last [TS]
◼ ► time we didn't get on to the topic of chew our best albums I feel yeah I feel I missed opportunity. [TS]
◼ ► He's a he's a lot like you know a lot of ways great there are a lot of things about Jerry that remind that reminded me [TS]
◼ ► and one of them is his secrecy about upcoming projects which I guess is are even more important [TS]
◼ ► when you make outcomes so he was he was tightly around like a smart man hears like much more is a very smart man he was [TS]
◼ ► It was good it was really good it was good fun I was wondering if you had a fan girl did in the meeting I think I think [TS]
◼ ► Know how mean I definitely have a lot respect for for what these guys are creator think it's a really great thing [TS]
◼ ► but even my friend Alan who makes music for my videos and who wrote the Hello into that little jingle stats show. [TS]
◼ ► I like I'm amazed by people who can he can do what they do so I've got loads loads of respect [TS]
◼ ► but I don't know because of because of my job over the years are kind of get exposed to lots of people who are who are [TS]
◼ ► when we were walking down the street together in London someone came up to us and recognized me [TS]
◼ ► and not him so that if you're OK Give us an advantage in the celebrity meet up the dynamic wasn't really like that [TS]
◼ ► and seriously like I can't recommend the abdomen after the music video for go which I think is really good. [TS]
◼ ► Was made by a company in Bristol I think for the long coat go which is the Apollo eleven song it's got like something [TS]
◼ ► like three hundred thousand views I think that's criminal I think there is criminal that you know Taylor Swift we have [TS]
◼ ► but that would have like a hundred million and this can have three hundred thousand. There's something wrong. [TS]
◼ ► Well the world there's probably a gif of it somewhere that has twenty million views a soundless looping gift it was a [TS]
◼ ► it was interesting how much we had to talk about in common about things like who had East Twitter [TS]
◼ ► Except on really crappy music and he made he made we call him the ability to make music. Seems like magic to me. [TS]
◼ ► Anybody has any kind of musical skill I was I was talking to him about the random acts of intelligent show [TS]
◼ ► and I said if they don't put on one of their shows at that Rocket Center in Huntsville the something wrong with the [TS]
◼ ► world can you imagine seeing them do their Apollo set under the satin far with all that oppose Apollo space ships [TS]
◼ ► Who would become the best setting for any show in the world and the best setting if you are. Space themed what's next. [TS]
◼ ► but I'll never you cheaper never get you to be one of those people who are into these the president the United States [TS]
◼ ► and I would never interview the president of the United States but I was trying to think that they'd ask you [TS]
◼ ► and it was just silence in my brain are so I assumed it was something going wrong in the office or your computer. [TS]
◼ ► Who's breaking That's how awkward inquiries that was that just was that if you try to think of a question to ask. [TS]
◼ ► Honest to God Brady I was trying to think of think of questions to ask you because you told me that I need to be a [TS]
◼ ► and I was I was just I don't know what to ask what do I ask this is where I have told you many times that you have this [TS]
◼ ► natural interviewing skill that you seem to just disregard because it comes so naturally to you. Let me start this way. [TS]
◼ ► Yeah I totally think I sent you a message saying oh I just met with the guy from public service broadcasting right what [TS]
◼ ► do you want to know what's the first thing you think was the first question that comes into your head not what do you [TS]
◼ ► think you should ask what do you want to ask because that's probably a good stuff. What's the first question you have. [TS]
◼ ► Yeah the first thing I asked you was how the do have you made up and yet that's what you told us. [TS]
◼ ► OK I told you that because Twitter because he writes he had say no these tweets mentioning us so he kind of we got [TS]
◼ ► and then I'd exchanged a few emails of progress to Marie who we dealt with that so now you know that right. [TS]
◼ ► And then and I message I also asked you if you fan girl the big time when you met the person and the very did that. [TS]
◼ ► OK you don't want to there's nothing else you want to know I guess the thing is I feel like oh if there's something [TS]
◼ ► interesting you'll tell me and I don't know what to ask. And that is that I know nothing about the situation. [TS]
◼ ► Aren't you going to tell me the interesting things about this situation how would I know what to ask is interesting [TS]
◼ ► when I don't know what the interesting thing is you know what the interesting thing is yeah that's not really had to [TS]
◼ ► earn this works but you know this is not how journalism works and it's also why I'm not a journalist [TS]
◼ ► but I just I just say again every time we've ever discussed as you disregard your interviewing skills because they just [TS]
◼ ► and sitting here sweating trying to think of a question to ask you if you're telling your story [TS]
◼ ► and I can't we don't have very sorry you just have to say what comes into your head sometimes nothing comes into the [TS]
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◼ ► Igloo the Internet you'll actually like homework we mentioned last time the Martian as some homework to do this episode [TS]
◼ ► is coming out relatively soon after the other one so maybe not everybody has read it yet I don't know for the record [TS]
◼ ► everyone I said to grab that I thought it was too soon to be talking about the book with a Martian a week after setting [TS]
◼ ► but it's largely because I already read the Martian I think from my perspective two and a half weeks ago [TS]
◼ ► and so I think I'm good I'm just going to forget the details if we wait any longer because it might be a while until we [TS]
◼ ► record the next one like the half life of the Martian in my brain is quickly diminishing so we have to talk about it [TS]
◼ ► when I read it it must be six months maybe even a year ago around the time I recommended on on a notable at [TS]
◼ ► and I have forgotten what were still full of I'm not going to be massively useful although I have read a cross the book [TS]
◼ ► but I won't have the kind of intimate knowledge of data that used to have over your already oversell thing my position [TS]
◼ ► but I guess the bottom line for the listener is one prepare yourself for spoilers from this point on [TS]
◼ ► and I know you I don't know you've already got your little plant in place so I'm not going to be able to shake you from [TS]
◼ ► or not I am I going to know that what I have to wait for that to be revealed over series of sleight of hand. [TS]
◼ ► Gray isms you always want you always want to jump right to the very to the heart of the thing. [TS]
◼ ► Why do you always want to do this because I'm a journalist it's an inverted pyramid right if the world ends before this [TS]
◼ ► or not that doesn't make any sense I will say simply I was I think it gives a context to what you're saying. [TS]
◼ ► or not like it changes the the the salt the grain of salt I'm I'm taking with what you say. [TS]
◼ ► Anywhere you to how you want what you want to say about this book you said as homework you must have something you want [TS]
◼ ► to say so the reason that I wanted to set it as homework was you know I don't read a lot of. [TS]
◼ ► Fiction books Normally I tend to read mostly non-fiction this is a case where a bunch of people in my life [TS]
◼ ► All recommended this book there was a bit of a gay universal wall of recommendation from people so I thought you know [TS]
◼ ► but also that they think I would like this book so I thought OK I'm going to give it a try. [TS]
◼ ► but I bought it while sitting on the runway at Dulles Airport waiting for my plane to take off to San Francisco [TS]
◼ ► and I realized oh I need to get something to do on the airplane as I was able to just buy it on my i Pad [TS]
◼ ► and I hadn't turned off the data connection even though they told me to call it literally downloaded as the wheels were [TS]
◼ ► lifting off the crowd and but you know you don't tell us Latins about that it's OK This is the context [TS]
◼ ► Yeah if you want me to come to the meat of it all haha sorry that was an adorable little foul you head up to the set [TS]
◼ ► with a little That's the last know is orgy makes the Shiva as she's like noting off that's so sweet she looking into of [TS]
◼ ► or I was I was thinking what does that mean does that mean he'd like to want to like it because I didn't know you'd [TS]
◼ ► Yes So what I would say is if I'm going to cut to the heart of it there is no way in the world I would ever have [TS]
◼ ► finished this book were it not for the fact that I was on an airplane and had limited options of other things to do. [TS]
◼ ► and the note at the top of my page was just ne'er was kind of the way I felt I felt about the book [TS]
◼ ► but it was it was just an interesting experience reading it because I could see why people would think that I would [TS]
◼ ► but it was actually probably those parts that most annoyed me about the book would be the things that people would [TS]
◼ ► think that I like the most I didn't think you'd like the book. Oh really interesting didn't you recommended to me. [TS]
◼ ► but I'm not surprised you don't like it why are you not surprised I think I'm in this is going to more be that where [TS]
◼ ► and those reasons are because it was a good book the Martian is it is a book that will be liked by people who don't [TS]
◼ ► read many good books the Martian in the legally don't know what a good book is actually like particularly science geeky [TS]
◼ ► and haven't got much to compare it to and just thinks it's awesome that book has been written about Mars [TS]
◼ ► and which is cheer the fact a science book has been written and has gone mainstream and it could and the [TS]
◼ ► and they wouldn't care because it's a science book that's gone mainstream and that means good good good. [TS]
◼ ► So there that there's a lot of that going on you know is such a something starts in the mainstream it must be good [TS]
◼ ► and we must be cheerleaders because we share everything science and I find that a bit frustrating. [TS]
◼ ► Men it's also not a particularly well written book you know it's pretty it's pretty basic you know it's not it's not a [TS]
◼ ► There's a few things that are good about it which I talk about in a minute or may not depending on where things go [TS]
◼ ► Is another example of a book that's not a particularly good book that is very compelling to rate [TS]
◼ ► and I found the Martian a bit like that I have always had to read the next chapter because it was very had had certain [TS]
◼ ► hoax through it that that was very clever much like the different chic it doesn't and you can sit back [TS]
◼ ► when you're reading the defense she cut it's like heroin and you had to rate the next chapter [TS]
◼ ► and I got the margin a bit like that the motion is a bit like I cannot stop because I have to read the next chapter [TS]
◼ ► and it's not because I can't wait to see what brilliant turn of phrase is going to be used for other reasons [TS]
◼ ► but it's interesting to hear you say that you felt compelled to read it because I did not feel that way at all [TS]
◼ ► So for those those who haven't read it this is no spoiler it starts off straight away with the premise that a man has [TS]
◼ ► been left on Mars after after a space expedition there and the storm has forced the rest of his crew to retreat yet [TS]
◼ ► Basically of him saying he's on Mars and he screwed and he's injured and how is he going to try [TS]
◼ ► and it's a compelling story about a man trying to survive. Yeah it's sort of cast away in space. [TS]
◼ ► Perfect that's how you would pitch the movie might very well be how the movie was cast away in space [TS]
◼ ► and the first seven chapters are all told from the first person perspective of this guy and mark what NE is the here [TS]
◼ ► but I found the first two chapters like oh OK this is an interesting premise it's good so far [TS]
◼ ► and in Star Trek they always have technobabble which boils down to someone says something is broken [TS]
◼ ► and then another person has a a made up series of nonsense words about how they're going to fix whatever the thing is [TS]
◼ ► and I just always feels like Can we just move past this I Why does this always have to be the plot point of made up [TS]
◼ ► Made up solution neither of which matters it just matters that the thing got fixed such I remember thinking that to be [TS]
◼ ► fair in the book are I do remember getting fatigued by the take by the number of things that break [TS]
◼ ► and then get fixed is to be like OK here we go again but I never never member thinking was that would never happen [TS]
◼ ► and that solution same such style I saw well that probably would happen among us and that probably is a Y. [TS]
◼ ► You could fix it so while I found found that sound a bit repetitive in that sense I don't remember thinking [TS]
◼ ► technobabble This is why I think people would think that I like it because they're plausible solutions. [TS]
◼ ► He's actually talking about actual things so have I have a little segment here that's highlighted as a as a passage [TS]
◼ ► The C O two filters are not clean a bill once they're saturated there done the mission accounted for a four hour Evie a [TS]
◼ ► All told I have about fifteen hundred hours of C O two filters after that and then he just like he goes on [TS]
◼ ► Right that the author has is providing the character with a certain number of air filter that he's going to be able to [TS]
◼ ► Pink sickly Apollo thirteen Style right of oh we have this square peg to fit in this round hole [TS]
◼ ► but I'm just constantly aware of the author as creator of problems for which the character Mark is going to give me far [TS]
◼ ► and I just found it really really tedious in the first seven chapters I can sometimes sort of talking to that point [TS]
◼ ► but from a slightly different than the last so again my memory's not as good as your post because I was alone with [TS]
◼ ► but I thought the problem there was more a case of the also was trying to to justify everything he was trying to show [TS]
◼ ► It's a bit like OK you don't need to you don't need to prove to me that yeah that he has this many faces for this race [TS]
◼ ► and because the sin that is what would have happened if that disaster hadn't struck it was a bit all rot I came [TS]
◼ ► and Sarah you know you've done your homework I know you've done your homework it doesn't mean you have to shave me oh [TS]
◼ ► you're working out exactly I just read I'm randomly flipping through the book on my page on my computer [TS]
◼ ► and I just started another sentence to be viable soil needs forty liters of water per cubic meter my overall plan calls [TS]
◼ ► for nine point two cubic metres of soils all eventually need three hundred sixty eight leaders of ones like God damnit [TS]
◼ ► do it like I don't need all of this it is just too much and I'm flipping through pages and the number of pain. [TS]
◼ ► OK two pages over right to says like several paragraphs after the thing that I just read you in sixty two square meters [TS]
◼ ► I could grow maybe a hundred fifty kilograms of potatoes in four hundred days that's a grand total of one thousand one [TS]
◼ ► hundred fifty calories a sustainable average of two hundred thirty it's like it just flip flip flip I flip over to the [TS]
◼ ► next page OK there's numbers all over that page I flip over to the next page there's numbers on this page flip over [TS]
◼ ► there's no numbers on this page finally Oh no there is there's a number of hundred six in the middle of flipping over [TS]
◼ ► and it's just for ever I almost I almost don't know why I like I made it through this first section [TS]
◼ ► but I could have done something better with my time on the flight the very next chapter is where it finally switches [TS]
◼ ► perspective and it goes to NASA headquarters and them trying to figure out what has happened [TS]
◼ ► and so I thought OK book I'm going to give us I'm going to give you a little bit more time because maybe you just [TS]
◼ ► but for me it was it was just it was unfortunate because there was just enough of the other stuff that I ended up [TS]
◼ ► but yeah I just found almost all of the sections where Mark is talking about his solutions to the problems just way [TS]
◼ ► and I think you're right it's like someone who's very very eager to show you all of their work that actually actually [TS]
◼ ► reminds me of back when I was in college I had a job doing research for one of the professors [TS]
◼ ► Where we had to present to some Congress people what what our research projects were and what we were working on. [TS]
◼ ► And I'll never forget that the professor told me before we went into some of these meetings he wanted to impress the [TS]
◼ ► Don't tell the Congress person about the details that seem important to you you have to think about what he might be [TS]
◼ ► interested what are the practical results of this research you know or why the funding should continue [TS]
◼ ► and the complicated data analysis spreadsheet you had to use for high energy frequency plasmas this does feel like it's [TS]
◼ ► just too much like there's a way to move the story forward without having all of the details he showed he showed you [TS]
◼ ► and it put you off the sausage if this was a book about a real event that had occurred I may find those details much [TS]
◼ ► and I have I have a note here where I wrote made up solutions to made up problems and then him brackets. [TS]
◼ ► but I was going to ask if there were other things you like about the book what do I like about of a you know what do [TS]
◼ ► you like about the book that I do like the nest out of Jack de like SPOILER ALERT algea I do like that they use [TS]
◼ ► and equipment that has landed on the planet nearby to save the yeah that I have to say that was the best part that was [TS]
◼ ► absolutely the best part I thought that yeah he uses he uses one of the previous crashed missions on the General's act [TS]
◼ ► That's a good way to do things so I like to that but I think the biggest strength of the book from memory. [TS]
◼ ► and had a sense of humor I found him funny like because at this obviously the first part of the book is him writing a [TS]
◼ ► journal like he's keeping like a a log isn't a sort of that people will probably find after he's died he suspects [TS]
◼ ► but he keeps a journal and I think his purse I think the personality of this main character I really liked him [TS]
◼ ► and I think he is what made me care the reason I cared about the book is because I liked him [TS]
◼ ► or they went back to the other spacecraft that's heading back to Earth the people that have left him behind. [TS]
◼ ► I found all of that completely boring because there were no characters there I cared about there was no on a lot [TS]
◼ ► and I thought that was all quite the factory and was very believable to me it is felt like or any old book [TS]
◼ ► or not my night was going to get out of I'm not of course on the reverse here where I found the sections where they [TS]
◼ ► and everybody running the mission as like a as a relief in the book I thought oh boy I want to find out if this team of [TS]
◼ ► Which again is kind of ridiculous because that is also a made up problem that they're coming up with made up solutions [TS]
◼ ► for but I found that the details whenever they were talking about the NASA section were at a more appropriate level [TS]
◼ ► but I can't remember any of the other characters I would completely just went by me like the land nobody's Yes [TS]
◼ ► Laughing out when you were describing your like of the main character because I wrote Does anyone find this funny. [TS]
◼ ► Question mark question mark because this this was my other main main bullet point which is do you read any Stephen King [TS]
◼ ► but I haven't read a lot of red to us right maybe a yeah yeah I know you're listening to the J.F.K. [TS]
◼ ► but you haven't you haven't read a bunch of his books not definitely know a bunch of crap a thing that I kept thinking [TS]
◼ ► Which I find in books which I felt that this character Mark what me had which to me just seems like saying silly things [TS]
◼ ► and I find no humor in this at all and I like Stephen King quite a lot but one thing that really irritates me [TS]
◼ ► It read the exact same way as the Mark Wotte me character in this book reads of Stephen King will have a character say [TS]
◼ ► a silly thing and it just it does not register with me at all it does not move the humor needle at all [TS]
◼ ► and I just find it an extraordinarily grading person how they so all of the sections where he's making jokes. [TS]
◼ ► and I would be the annoyed guy at NASA can we move along here you know we were we have something to do [TS]
◼ ► and great I think that's if you know I mean I mean you're here I'm a NATO is is not always the easiest thing to move [TS]
◼ ► when an author wants to make a character funny I feel like the characters are always funny in the same way. [TS]
◼ ► Where they're really just silly or wacky and I highlighted this was almost at the very end of the book [TS]
◼ ► but I highlighted the one passage that really put me over the edge in terms of this kind of joke. [TS]
◼ ► Around the ramp Well if I could have anything it would be a green skinned beautiful queen of Mars to rescue me so she [TS]
◼ ► and I just feel like it's not funny it's just silly it's just that one was just like it's as a groaned out loud I think [TS]
◼ ► on the airplane I can't remember that one of the way you read it certainly is certainly didn't make me for not giving [TS]
◼ ► and I imagine I would be like that confronted with that situation I would have that kind of gallows humor. [TS]
◼ ► He knew where the weather with it I mean he was definitely corny he was differently like making data Corning is a good [TS]
◼ ► way to the but but that was his personality and when he started having email contact or text contact back with NASA [TS]
◼ ► but that that is a personality trait I know cornball corny people and some of the movements and a lot of them [TS]
◼ ► and I would not describe them as like comedy geniuses but I like them and that cornball corny jokes nature to him [TS]
◼ ► but he just seems like a real character to me and women of the with the at last a character [TS]
◼ ► and I feel for whatever reason I remember thinking when I was reading a lot what needs seems like a real guy to me. [TS]
◼ ► I did kind of like him but also importantly I believed I believed he was real and therefore I wanted him to live [TS]
◼ ► and all those NASA paper which is cardboard cutouts sitting sitting sitting at computers and analyzing data [TS]
◼ ► and even the people in the ship were kind of characters I feel so guilty we we we made a mistake we must go back I will [TS]
◼ ► agree with you there I mean even though I enjoyed the sections where they're they're talking about the astronauts who [TS]
◼ ► Aside from the captain I kept being aware of I don't know how many other people are on the ship [TS]
◼ ► and our just I'm confused with the dialogue because yes there was there were no distinct characters there whatsoever [TS]
◼ ► but casting my mind back I have his vague recollections of there's a director and there's like a pushy P.R. [TS]
◼ ► but it's very it's very hard to to come up with anything in particular but you're totally right with the corny [TS]
◼ ► and this is just a a personality difference because you mentioned for example dad humor and I have always thought [TS]
◼ ► and I really think some kind of biological shift I wonder if I were to have a baby would I suddenly think that puns are [TS]
◼ ► and he has this sort of humor was along those lines so is why I would be much much more resistant to it that I'm not a [TS]
◼ ► A biological change in men when they have children about the humor they like I demand answers. Someone's Ph D. [TS]
◼ ► I'm giving it a thumbs up it's not a masterpiece it's just been I just it's the other thing is it's A.Z.'s pottery [TS]
◼ ► and it's it's not yeah it's that's the other reason it's you know it's like a hot knife through butter reading that [TS]
◼ ► and it was always hopeful that may definitely contributes to why it is a more popular book I mean I have to say I'm [TS]
◼ ► always very happy to see anybody who starts off as self published as this author was achieve a nominal success I always [TS]
◼ ► Definitely definitely goes along with that it helps grease the wheels the only other thing I did want to talk about was [TS]
◼ ► Yeah how did you feel I guess you didn't carry through this experience that it because I read the book before the movie [TS]
◼ ► and this is always something that drives me crazy with books I've never ever you know what I used to buy a lot of books [TS]
◼ ► I'm sitting in a room right now with a whole bunch of books that have been collected over over my lifetime my parents [TS]
◼ ► Yeah I can only assume that they sell well because they always come out but I personally hate them [TS]
◼ ► Why do I have to have Matt Damon's face looking at me if this is not a physical object anymore I should be able to [TS]
◼ ► but it did also cause the problem as I was reading the book I kept thinking Matt Damon is he this character. [TS]
◼ ► Remotely I don't think so I mean I can imagine that would have really affected how much I'd like to mock what NE [TS]
◼ ► and you know you can think what you want to bet him but I did have a blank slate for my mouth. [TS]
◼ ► and if I had met Damon preloaded as much what name I might not be saying quite the nice things about him that I am well [TS]
◼ ► maybe Owatonna I'll never know because I can't do it again but I don't have strong feelings about Matt Damon one way [TS]
◼ ► or do really like him I just add a few times I thought because of the humor I thought I have a hard time imagining Matt [TS]
◼ ► but I didn't feel like Matt Damon was in my brain as I was reading the book because I thought these characters seem so [TS]
◼ ► He seems like a very strange casting choice for this person but so I always knew that the movie was out [TS]
◼ ► and just just before we started recording this pod cast I thought I want to watch the trailer because I've seen some [TS]
◼ ► and the trailer is the perhaps the most magnificent least spoiler task Dick trailer I have ever seen it with this. [TS]
◼ ► Three minutes long but it hits every single plot point in the whole book. Yeah I was amazed. [TS]
◼ ► and I said other making the film let's watch the trailer together and I think we watched it twice. [TS]
◼ ► Larger of being struck by the quantity of spoilers and I do agree I do agree with your observation [TS]
◼ ► and watching it OK you watch it on your watch again as well it is a good trailer if you ignore spoiler issues it does [TS]
◼ ► I wish to cry so you just watch the trailer again I wish there was one thing I thought they didn't spoil them around [TS]
◼ ► that it spoil all of the major plot points the trailer hits yet which if you're listening to us talk now we're assuming [TS]
◼ ► that you're OK with spoilers with it's the storm that comes his have has an explosion he finds the probe The [TS]
◼ ► communicate with NASA NASA comes up with the plan to rescue him. The astronaut's already in space. [TS]
◼ ► and they show that the final take off where he is rescued from Mars it's just amazing they even have a shot showing [TS]
◼ ► and things like that whether it's always it's always deliver you know what there are so many spoilers it didn't even [TS]
◼ ► cross my mind that showing him writing four hundred sixty one on the wall is also a massive oil [TS]
◼ ► or I love you if you're going to survive the it's amazing I will I will say this face if you hadn't read the book a lot [TS]
◼ ► That is truly like you would do the take off your pre-programmed couldn't of clocks that was him taking off from. [TS]
◼ ► Somehow you could easily have missed that you wouldn't have clocked at that was the old NASA probe that he was rubbing [TS]
◼ ► and using to to get back in touch with you definitely wouldn't have picked up on that if you didn't know the book [TS]
◼ ► or you weren't very annoyed with mushing history so in some ways the spoiler is only spoiling for people who've read [TS]
◼ ► and what have it I don't think it shows him flipping his vehicle which is was a big moment in the book as well wasn't [TS]
◼ ► and if that's true that's true I don't think the show that maybe they had films that yet so they couldn't couldn't cram [TS]
◼ ► when I watch these trailers what I mean by spoilers is even if I don't know what the thing is I am very aware of shots [TS]
◼ ► when I'm watching the movie My brain just has a little checklist of all of the shots that we saw in a trailer [TS]
◼ ► and is ticking them off and I've been in movies so many times where I'm just sitting there in my brain is thinking. [TS]
◼ ► Others to things in the trailer we haven't seen yet we haven't seen him seen him go up to a pile of robotic stuff [TS]
◼ ► and we haven't seen that second spaceships I'm just waiting and just hate that so much so yeah. [TS]
◼ ► Even if you don't know what's going on is still spoilers I haven't got your memory for trailers I don't have what the [TS]
◼ ► and that is that that trailer is that is basically the whole film from start to finish this you know it really is if [TS]
◼ ► they as look you know the only thing they don't rule out is that there's a last second he dies because of some mishap [TS]
◼ ► or something that they didn't show him back on Earth that there have been you're lying for like having a having a drink. [TS]
◼ ► Tussling is kids hair or whatever that's the way and Hollywood one in the movie The My final thought on this though is. [TS]
◼ ► and watching the trailer I thought oh I bet this is going to be a much much more enjoyable movie than the book because [TS]
◼ ► but it is it doesn't necessarily have to be exactly like the guy in the book me can just be a you know a slightly [TS]
◼ ► wisecracking astronaut and it is much more palatable sometimes on film if you I my my where edgier bit more map more. [TS]
◼ ► Yeah it more chase him down one bit less exactly exactly he can be more Jason Bourne and less Mark what me [TS]
◼ ► and so I just that was my conclusion was I thought this is probably going to be a movie that is way more enjoyable [TS]
◼ ► and successful than the book is I think my critics I think the movie will be poorer for not having that unusual written [TS]
◼ ► and I think there's something quite special about the transition from him only being able to write to them being able [TS]
◼ ► and I think turning into of a log which is what they're going to do because I have to yeah the media they have to do. [TS]
◼ ► but I don't know I'm always a bit worried about Martian films because I always have high hopes for films about mass [TS]
◼ ► and they so often disappoint mission to Mars from a remains the worst film ever made in the history of movies. [TS]
◼ ► and I join the parents of a so I've watched the way more than of what some films I love that motion films very often [TS]
◼ ► There's a mostly my my final thought you could not disappoint a few people that really love the book because [TS]
◼ ► when you set as homework a few people got pretty excited because I love the book so much so you're going to disappoint [TS]
◼ ► Yeah and I would never wish a bad experience on anybody I would hope that they enjoy the book [TS]
◼ ► but you know we have to complain about something on the part cast Yeah that's that's that's how this works. [TS]
◼ ► when the time comes to discuss that one of us has absolutely slammed thought it was a waste of time to raid yeah is to [TS]