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H.I. #54: Star Wars Christmas Special

 

  you know how I love a little bit of fate and coincidence and stuff I had my head [TS]

  I had been a crazy idea today so I just wanna put it in there cause I know you [TS]

  like new and unpredictable things that I love alone suffered a schedule I did [TS]

  something I do maybe once every few months and that is I bought like a [TS]

  scratch ticket oh yeah I usually do as a little surprise present from iowa [TS]

  because she's not particularly in to scratch tickets but she finds it funny [TS]

  that Australians called them scratch ease so ever since then I sometimes [TS]

  think that's funny because it is funny [TS]

  Australians and your lil names for everything we love putting the liaison [TS]

  the end of things so sometimes I come home and bring her a scratchy so anyway [TS]

  I brought a scratchy for myself and I thought I would do the scratchy luck on [TS]

  the podcast because I could win 1,000,000 pounds and I thought if I 11 [TS]

  million pounds while we will live recording that would be an amazing piece [TS]

  of podcast would be pretty go it would be astounding do you think if I win [TS]

  1,000,000 pounds that would change the topic of today's podcast and we will [TS]

  just talk about how I'm gonna spend this million pants now because honestly I [TS]

  would much rather talk about our intended topic then you're million [TS]

  pounds if you like I'm really happy for you but let's get on with the show [TS]

  really did do you think I could do the show if I just want two million barrels [TS]

  I mean your professional podcaster you should be able to soldier on without one [TS]

  which he just ran into the street screaming no but I think I think it [TS]

  would be unprofessional to win 1,000,000 pounds live on a podcast and then not [TS]

  talk about it just crack on with other by now subjects there's always follow up [TS]

  Brady right we can talk about it and follow up on the next episode [TS]

  you've got to adapt to circumstances and you could go with fake takes you you've [TS]

  got to be as adaptable as a Swiss Army knife as we previously discussed you [TS]

  can't just have your notes and think like like if I was looking out the [TS]

  window right now and a comment came and smashed into the say do you think I'd be [TS]

  thinking would I be thinking that that does his topic for next week I must put [TS]

  the show notes or do you think it's a great not gonna believe what just [TS]

  happened of course if you wildly change this [TS]

  scenario then yes I'm going to agree with you had we're going to talk about a [TS]

  comment smashing into the earth I'm not having that I'm not wildly changing the [TS]

  subject changing the area I like I admit crashing to the earth is pretty [TS]

  significant and more significant than we may winning a million pounds but may 20 [TS]

  million pounds is still like a big deal it's like more interesting than talking [TS]

  about Star Wars it is not it is not more interesting great if you if you want to [TS]

  if you wanna million per someone walked into your office right now and gave you [TS]

  a suitcase with a million pounds I would say let's talk about that Star Wars can [TS]

  wait that is quite an unusual scenario why did someone give me a suitcase full [TS]

  of a million pounds now the suitcases a thing to worry about like sitting here [TS]

  at my feet as I'm trying to record the scenario let me make this really easy [TS]

  for you if you had a scratchy cat in front of you and you scratch that off [TS]

  and you won a million pounds I think that's more interesting than talking [TS]

  about stuff goes ok you know what I can prove to you it isn't because he is that [TS]

  we can do if you really want that can be my scratchy ticket and you can scratch [TS]

  it off and if I win a million pounds then we keep going on with the show and [TS]

  I'm right and it's great that we're going to see if I can prove to you I can [TS]

  prove to you how correct I am on this one I would rather be Rome and having [TS]

  them are you are you ready to scratch off here is scheduled to take it well [TS]

  I'm gonna give you a fun of choices in the scenario because my wife believes [TS]

  that it's lucky to use a golden coin to do it with a coin of high value but just [TS]

  for you I also have a penny I'm gonna let you decide if you want me to use a [TS]

  lucky golden coin or a penny to scratchy scratchy scratchy I mean which one is [TS]

  more satisfying to hold because obviously they're not going to change [TS]

  the numbers in the ticket I've actually was slightly disagreed with my wife on [TS]

  this because I think the gold pound coin is a little bit sick for doing the [TS]

  scratchy oh yeah pound coins no good that's no good to hold it all you need [TS]

  like a tu pense going that's that's good it's nice and then it's probably the [TS]

  only thing that it depends going is good at it is big enough to hold [TS]

  up to scratch when now you've said that I gotta go and get two pence cause now I [TS]

  feel like it's bad luck if i dont use it to a pens game it doesn't there is no [TS]

  there is no luck in this scenario I'm gonna get to Penn Schoen hang on [TS]

  ok I made in this news release getting it depends if he has it right hand is [TS]

  going to be sitting back down in like two seconds I'm back on his way back to [TS]

  you know I keep my cup of coins in a in a old ww2 like mortar shell then huge [TS]

  big goldwater show is it within arms reach is essentially a pretty matches so [TS]

  figured it's on those bookshelves next to my desk right right of course sounds [TS]

  good just the way they mentally to pants ok see if you can guess what you might [TS]

  open scoring is from 1990 1995 nowhere near it [TS]

  we have what like fifty years of two pence coins I think that's pretty close [TS]

  five years five years how long how long of two pence coins currently in [TS]

  circulation been made [TS]

  let me let me say something again grow so you can do it all my goodness great [TS]

  that's amazing you are within five years they didn't exactly because it would be [TS]

  ridiculous because being five years is nowhere near I think it depends entirely [TS]

  on how many years worth of fifty pence coins are in circulation and I bet [TS]

  there's like 50 years worth of fifty pence going circulations 108 maybe not [TS]

  cuz theres desolation in the nineteen seventies in the UK and other currency [TS]

  in the nineteen seventies I think they did 66 I believe was the ok so still [TS]

  like shifted basically fifty years ago I don't know that was 66 assists in my [TS]

  head cuz that's also the year they won the World Cup I could be wrong about [TS]

  that but anyway there's many many years I'm within 5 I'm impressed by this [TS]

  random coincidence are you impressed by telling him you like that that's what I [TS]

  tell you what you will be impressed by my million pound win that's about to [TS]

  happen mary millions I put a picture of the card and shown out so people can [TS]

  have [TS]

  look what's the maximum on that scratch the maximum million parents who is not [TS]

  really Mary millions it's Mary hey million or 44 for people to marry [TS]

  million therefore it's a Merry millions visit Mary's million there's million [TS]

  pounds the next prices 25 2010 51 than 200 100 as the little ones if I win [TS]

  25,000 I don't really know what we're gonna do I think I mean that's there's a [TS]

  lot of money but where is that boundary of when it becomes uninteresting [TS]

  we've got a great because that's the whole thing with like scratch cards and [TS]

  lotteries as before you inevitably lose it so the dreaming of what will happen [TS]

  if you win so I'm trying to make course that is what this thing is so I'm not [TS]

  even dreaming of what I would do with the million I'm dreaming of what will [TS]

  podcast about if I read the million [TS]

  got like it's like levels of abstraction going on here we know we're going to [TS]

  talk about we're gonna podcast about Star Wars now here we go there are four [TS]

  gingerbread man in a little cluster and apparently if I if when I scratch away [TS]

  these gingerbread man if I find a little Santa Claus face i win a prize I'm sure [TS]

  to listeners are holding their breath man had a ball pool side win the second [TS]

  on a globe know when a sweet know when Holly know where and when nothing how [TS]

  unlikely it looks like today's podcast is going to be about the new Star Wars [TS]

  film The Force awakens [TS]

  what's the most important thing before we say anything about the force awakens [TS]

  the new Star Wars movie instead of us is what is a spoiler situation here because [TS]

  oil is a very important when it comes to this there can't not be spoilers this [TS]

  episode is going to have many spoilers starting essentially immediately so so [TS]

  if you don't want spoilers stop now we are recording this is at its two days [TS]

  after it came out in the UK I think that's about right and i know many [TS]

  people who have taken the last couple days to basically hide from the internet [TS]

  because they are terrified of receiving spoilers so I know a lot of people like [TS]

  I can't go on reddit I can go on Twitter because if I go on I know I'm going to [TS]

  see spoiler and so many many people are are hiding but as always cast people [TS]

  could be listening in the far far future great I have a story yes a blatant [TS]

  exactly to that obviously will come to us so we can estaba spoilers obviously a [TS]

  very major character dies in this film and I was spoiled [TS]

  yeah I was it doesn't really bother me but I and it was just you know what it [TS]

  does bother me it was the method in which it was done okay so tell me how [TS]

  did this tragedy happened I was in the comments section of one of my videos [TS]

  just like I do for work and it was one of those people who just who just wants [TS]

  to be a bad person and just wrote so-and-so dies and is killed by someone [TS]

  so no one really basically the whole purpose was for people to stumble over [TS]

  and incidentally and can I say [TS]

  and I've been thinking about this and I don't want to sound too extreme but I [TS]

  think people who do that I don't judge them cause I don't know what's going on [TS]

  in their lives they could have had a difficult childhood [TS]

  of stuff going on and I've lived long enough to know when people do bad things [TS]

  sometimes there are other things going on so I don't want to I don't judge the [TS]

  person [TS]

  but can I say that Act the act of spoiling say I feel more a TV show in [TS]

  that I don't know if there's a word for doing that i'm gonna call / spoiling [TS]

  it's like a drive-by spoiling what is called a flash point is I think it's a [TS]

  little bit catch you but I think the act of doing that is one of the most pure [TS]

  despicable things you can possibly do because there's nothing but evil about [TS]

  it [TS]

  life is nothing but taking pleasure from evil there are many worse things that [TS]

  people can go right for example crimes and terrorism they are worse things [TS]

  right to inspect some how many of them can be justified but you can say well [TS]

  okay this person may be heard they had walked believe so they thought they were [TS]

  doing the right thing or they were motivated by a need and then they did a [TS]

  really bad thing but people who are doing these flash spoils me it's just [TS]

  that there's none of that going on there's no there's no constructs you can [TS]

  make where there's like a justification other than them taking pleasure from [TS]

  ruining something for other people and I think that's a really despicable acting [TS]

  you can sit there and laugh and think i've i've ruin the film for X number of [TS]

  people and then you have but can I just say that's a despicable thing you've [TS]

  done and like that's as low as you can get a good time for you I know it makes [TS]

  you happy that that and that just makes me feel a bit sad for you I can imagine [TS]

  that sort of person takes a lot of pleasure [TS]

  there's something about this which is like East symmetric warfare in that I [TS]

  imagine the person who does the spoiling gets maybe five seconds worth a very [TS]

  minor enjoyment for some people but the damage done is enormous [TS]

  you you ruin the movie for a large group of people like you take away such a huge [TS]

  amount of joy for what is a very probable very small increase of pleasure [TS]

  to yourself so that's one of things it's even worse about it like the asymmetry [TS]

  of it well I mean that's the case from [TS]

  crimes and things isn't what you say is true great I just think I guess that's [TS]

  just sad that had a sad crap life and they may be they feel that the world's [TS]

  been bad to them so they want to do something bad to the world I'm thinking [TS]

  of the damage done in terms of human hours of enjoyment you know when someone [TS]

  sees a spoiler like that on one of your videos like it's possible you know many [TS]

  hundreds maybe thousands of people see that lets multiply a thousand human [TS]

  hours of spoiled moving us against the persons leading seconds of enjoyment [TS]

  that is the tremendous asymmetry of it that mean then let people who kick [TS]

  puppies on that as far as bad things go that are not illegal it's it's up there [TS]

  but by the way I am only talking about these flash boils like I mean people may [TS]

  people may be pointing out that in our recent vote-counting video the face of [TS]

  growing appeared a few times I point out why this is different when it was [TS]

  accidental [TS]

  it was you editing the video was made that video is very long and as you know [TS]

  I didn't go through a frame-by-frame and it had to be done a bit of a hurry if [TS]

  you're watching that video you probably know you're in a frisky zone but if [TS]

  you're like somewhere unrelated and someone does that does that flash Boyle [TS]

  I think that's a bit worse I didn't quite realize that there actually are a [TS]

  tremendous number of comments on our flag video about spoilers for my face [TS]

  but I didn't see very much of that because as soon as we put the video up I [TS]

  was precisely afraid of the thing that happened to you happening to me of [TS]

  someone leaving just a random comment on that video to be a jerk about Star Wars [TS]

  spoilers so this is how we looking at so little in the last couple days leading [TS]

  up to this movie and then after I saw for the first time I went back to look [TS]

  at that video Russell 2000 boy lots of comments about these would be great face [TS]

  boilers again need to add an annotation or something to to warn people about it [TS]

  because of how many comments there have been anyway enough about that it didn't [TS]

  I don't think it affected my enjoyment of the film I didn't you know I didn't [TS]

  take enough from a to know exactly what and when and how and who said there was [TS]

  still some doubts but it did you know that was less of a surprise as a result [TS]

  but anyway let's talk about this film [TS]

  let's talk about Star Wars now actually the force awakens directed by Jim Abrams [TS]

  now you've already seen it twice the way this work is that I saw it on the 17th [TS]

  as a date with my wife had originally reserve some tickets ahead of time and [TS]

  we were going to go out and see it because because we are professional [TS]

  movie reviewers in some way I like this notion that everything we discuss on the [TS]

  podcast we can somehow be professional in in any way and we get we get money [TS]

  for the podcasting network professional X we're professional movers now I mean [TS]

  after that scratchy thing on a professional gambler I believe you are [TS]

  you a Wikipedia pages are going to get very long very long my plan was unlike [TS]

  say some of the other movies that we have intentionally watched for the [TS]

  podcast like The Hobbit movies where my expectations were low going in when I go [TS]

  into the Hobbit movie I have my phone now ready to take notes right away [TS]

  because I feel like a movie there's no way you're going to convince me to put [TS]

  down this phone because you're interesting so I might as well start [TS]

  taking notes now but I felt that that would have been deeply unfair to do to [TS]

  the Star Wars movie and it was also just not something I wanted to do and also [TS]

  just not something I would want to do when I'm going to see a movie with [TS]

  somebody else so I booked two tickets one which was just to see it with my [TS]

  wife and just to watch it and then the second one which just happened today [TS]

  which is the day after I booked it with the intention of going into the movie [TS]

  theater and having my phone and taking notes by the way people don't worry I [TS]

  booked in the back so that nobody was getting distracted by my phone so then [TS]

  the second thing is that ok now I am medal watching this like I'm watching me [TS]

  watching this and i'm taking notes on it and and writing some stuff down so [TS]

  that's that's my experience of it OK and you have watched it once I've watched it [TS]

  once yes I watched the day after you basically my wife wants to see it and [TS]

  she's booked tickets for us to see it on Sunday which happens to be the day after [TS]

  uni recording now [TS]

  because we're recording the podcast want to talk about and also I wanted to avoid [TS]

  spoilers I went to see a day earlier than two days earlier than planned but [TS]

  also funnily enough we've now learned this sound of music alive event is on TV [TS]

  on the Sunday night my wife really wants to watch so we've actually booked [TS]

  tickets for Monday night now and we're not gonna use a Sunday Ticket so there [TS]

  will be two empty seats in the cinema for one of the screenings so I would [TS]

  have bought three tickets in the course of four days but only gone to two of [TS]

  them as we talk now I've only seen it once I didn't take notes during ice [TS]

  cream with some notes the day after my memories of it alright well I know Brady [TS]

  you have no patience for talking about it without saying in advance what you [TS]

  actually thought of the movie so do you want to give your overall feeling he [TS]

  reaction to Star Wars do you disagree with me because I know this is a point [TS]

  of difference between us you like sort of constructing this complicated web [TS]

  where no one knows exactly what you're thinking with a movie review it's more [TS]

  important for people to know what you think overall I know where you're coming [TS]

  from and then and then you say good or bad about it has a context i think [TS]

  talking about it is the review [TS]

  yeah and that's what we'll do but it is it is all colored by whether or not you [TS]

  liked the film like it colors I think it's important to do and that's why I [TS]

  will I will concede I will concede your point ik I will concede your point [TS]

  ok well my overall feeling about it that will that can be taken with everything I [TS]

  say subsequently is I thought it was a really really good it was excellent [TS]

  two thumbs up superb job wow high rankings probably the biggest star Wars [TS]

  fan that I know in real life I know anybody in real life be like Star Wars [TS]

  more than you not flawless and I have a have a whole page of of criticisms I [TS]

  think when he was announced as directed my expectations were too high then they [TS]

  went down and after a few of the trailers I began to lose faith and get [TS]

  to wonder some expectations went down a bit so it exceeded my expectations but [TS]

  my expectations weren't ridiculously high but they also were at rock bottom [TS]

  but I think the film's very good for two four and a half stars out of 5 I'd say [TS]

  what about you what's your overall thoughts before we get get down to the [TS]

  nitty gritty yes I had only watched that first trailer that you made me watch for [TS]

  the record I wouldn't have watched otherwise like you I was happy VD [TS]

  hearings was selected as the director and I was intentionally keeping my [TS]

  expectations low and my mind mental bar here was if we can get something as good [TS]

  as the new Star Trek movies that James did that's a win those Star Trek movies [TS]

  same thing like they're they're like a fun adventure ride but I've never felt [TS]

  really compelled to watch them again but I would still feel like that would be [TS]

  that would be a win that's really what I'm hoping for that was kind of the [TS]

  mental bar in my life is is ok maybe it's going to be like Star Wars as seen [TS]

  through modern action movie genres but I'll be fine with that if it's if it's [TS]

  like Star Trek but I watched it and I would say that it passed that far [TS]

  it was a better movie than the Star Trek movie was I really liked it's like to [TS]

  have a quite a long list of things that I didn't like but overall it was it felt [TS]

  to me like this huge relief of like oh wow it's a it's a Star Wars movie that I [TS]

  can enjoy again [TS]

  I watched it and it was a fun adventure and I liked it and it was it was good in [TS]

  all the ways that I wanted it to end the thing that I really kept feeling [TS]

  throughout it was like that Star Trek movie doesn't really you like star track [TS]

  but watching this Star Wars movie it felt like the line at Honolulu given the [TS]

  movies like we're home again like this feels like Star Wars it's hard to pin [TS]

  down what that is exactly what it feels like it's in the same family as those [TS]

  original three-month high grade I think I [TS]

  reasons for that I agree with you and that arrow sites like it's made star was [TS]

  a case against like after those three abominations it was a bit like people [TS]

  that you like Star Wars really but those rooms are rubbish it's a bit like year [TS]

  but say now is OK [TS]

  healing moment that that's that's really what it feels like it's just it feels [TS]

  like oh there's there's been this great healing energy Abrams has laid his hands [TS]

  upon the series and it's all okay now maybe it's a bit like a sporting team [TS]

  that won a bunch of super bowls like in the eighties and then they became really [TS]

  rubbish team never gives you a hard time for liking that time this year that had [TS]

  a really good season and made the playoffs on paper it's all right there [TS]

  after oh yeah it was it was it was great and I hope does need gives judge abrams [TS]

  all the creatively way that he once for whatever he's going to do with with the [TS]

  next movies kobe's he is physically safe for the near future someone get that guy [TS]

  the bodyguard 24 7 because I want to make sure I G Abrams is a okay to keep [TS]

  this to keep this train rolling a piece of paper here that says the light side [TS]

  and a piece of paper that says the dark side of the things I like to do things I [TS]

  didn't like my tax ID one problem is a bit longer how we gonna do this do what [TS]

  are we going good some bad so we goin chronological age you know how do you [TS]

  want to talk about the film let's just start kind of rolling through what [TS]

  happens in the movie and then and and take it from there I think if we go [TS]

  funny we don't have to stick to call logical or anything but let's just kind [TS]

  of like start the [TS]

  a very good place to stop my very first note on this was text scroll know it [TS]

  taxes exclamation mark right away it felt great to see a text scroll in the [TS]

  opening part of the movie that was people focus they get with clear of here [TS]

  is the set up Luke is missing [TS]

  Princess Leia general area now has sent off this guy to go look for something [TS]

  that's important it was just it was a very good start [TS]

  ok great there's a text girl that I understand the talking about people it's [TS]

  not talking about trade embargoes and federations and all the rest of this [TS]

  right away very happy very good sign I just love it and of course I don't think [TS]

  you can sit in a movie theater and not have that initial Star Wars sound come [TS]

  on and blasted with that logo and not feel a moment of just tremendous [TS]

  excitement like no matter how low my expectations were going into that peter [TS]

  hasn't tried to like turned down my expectations intentionally as soon as [TS]

  that Big Star Wars sound comes on you just oh boy here we go I hope it's [TS]

  amazing to say that the scroll wasn't bad ok so far as to say it was good [TS]

  stuff I think that the first words Luke Skywalker has vanished that's really [TS]

  compelling like that's like that's a really good first few words like the [TS]

  first thing everyone wonders going to see that film is what's gonna happen to [TS]

  Luke Skywalker like where i doing now comes the big hero what's and to start [TS]

  with that straight away it's like okay let's the hotel doesn't he know the easy [TS]

  way to really get it was really good start sending around and they do a [TS]

  little bit of misdirection because they mentioned about Princess Leia sending [TS]

  her daring pilot off to go find whatever did find the missing map [TS]

  yeah and and of course in your mind you're thinking of that must be Han Solo [TS]

  right now of course not this is the new movie there's a new cast is going to be [TS]

  somebody else he was the daring pilot was written obviously intentionally to [TS]

  make you think conselho and then like nope this is a new this is a new set of [TS]

  movies I thought that was a nice looking to do as well yeah and then the open and [TS]

  then from the scroll obviously the camera pans down in the great Star Wars [TS]

  tradition to see what a big amazing money shots gonna be a [TS]

  is it gonna be a rolling ship or what's it gonna be scrolling down to a planet I [TS]

  think he did he did well it is different but in keeping with the great star was [TS]

  tradition like right away I thought that was a really good sign of he's doing the [TS]

  traditional move we have pan to a planet but he's doing it as the silhouette of [TS]

  the ship so you don't actually see the ship that is is this first one here you [TS]

  just see that there's some silhouette crossing the planet down go these little [TS]

  pods with storm troopers in them and it's like it's ok great this feels like [TS]

  we're doing the right things here going through all the motions but also it's [TS]

  it's different and its new so I thought I thought that was that was really good [TS]

  it's doing everything you need to its conveying so much information with so [TS]

  little effort like okay because the planet like a clips because the plan is [TS]

  eclipsed by the ship its ok this is menaced this is this is big and menacing [TS]

  and straight oh and all of these things are being given to you straight away no [TS]

  confusion now no clutter just but everything is got meaning it's not only [TS]

  beautiful and clever it's it's giving information all the time which is so [TS]

  important at the start of the film is an especially these are films even if you [TS]

  imagine someone walking into this movie theater and they've never seen Star Wars [TS]

  before and they're reading this text may have no idea who any of these people are [TS]

  you still know that the ship is bad news so clearly this is bad news right these [TS]

  are not people that you want coming to this planet just visually like they [TS]

  don't have to tell you anything about it there are a lot of little moments like [TS]

  this in the movie where I just found myself thinking like how competent you [TS]

  are using visual language to convey something like this this is just [TS]

  absolutely this is absolutely a pleasure to watch when when someone is doing [TS]

  doing this kind of thing yeah so I think the first the first major departure in [TS]

  the movie is the scene when the storm troopers land they are thinking of his [TS]

  as new tattoo him truly Jaku i think is the name for it [TS]

  yeah but it's another desert planet yeah it's another does deter planet it's it's [TS]

  you know it's new Tatooine [TS]

  and they're they're landing in there doing a raid and there's a storm trooper [TS]

  who is freaking out because he's this is his his first fight as you find out [TS]

  later he seeing you seeing all the death occurring around him and he's like a [TS]

  PTSD stormtrooper in this moment he sees presumably one of his friends dies this [TS]

  again was just a great thing like let's do something a little bit different and [TS]

  the and the old Star Wars movies had these couple little moments where where [TS]

  storm troopers where human eyes like chatting on the side of of them will be [TS]

  seen or whatever but here we are going to focus on a stormtrooper like one guy [TS]

  who is a real person who is going to be an actual character and I mean because I [TS]

  had seen the trailer that really made me want to presume that that was going to [TS]

  be the case that I guess storm trooper was was one of the main characters by I [TS]

  thought it was a good move I got an interesting it's an interesting and [TS]

  different place to focus in in the movie and we have this sort of this little [TS]

  battle and skirmish kick off on the on the desert planet the same and where [TS]

  someone files a blast heard a big bad and he froze the blast about in the in [TS]

  the in mid-air I mean if you'd told me beforehand that was going to happen out [TS]

  of it or not too sure about that but I was also and it was such a cool new use [TS]

  of the focus was such a cool new effect to see a lazy about frozen in mid-air [TS]

  but still sort of sizzling on the spot other that was that was so cold that [TS]

  blaster bolts was designed in the same way that Iran's lightsabers done where [TS]

  it in its like angry right it has sparks coming off the edge of it feels alive [TS]

  because this is this is the this is the plus side of making a movie many years [TS]

  later that we have better graphics technology we can make things look [TS]

  better than just lines on the screen so yes when when that blaster boulders [TS]

  fired and it stopped in mid air in it you couldn't have done that effect [TS]

  before because it would just be like others are glowing line in the center of [TS]

  the screen but with this it feels like that blaster bolt is just [TS]

  tradução dying to move forward like it's giving off sparks and its kinda [TS]

  moving around a little bit but but it's just casually held there by the dark [TS]

  side of the force and yes it is just so cool like that is exactly the kind of [TS]

  thing I can imagine if I was there I was a little kid seeing this like you [TS]

  imagine yourself like stopping blaster bolts with your hands when you're [TS]

  playing with other kids like that's just a great great thing to do in in the [TS]

  opening scene to establish I guess this guy can do amazing things right away and [TS]

  also very early on we have a bit of a market for the film as well as when when [TS]

  this this pilot here a guy whose name of already forgotten is sort of brought [TS]

  before con la Renta get a telling off and and that is really jokey he's funny [TS]

  like an early modern and modern jerky way who's gonna talk first you can talk [TS]

  the talk first like it was very like okay they gonna they're gonna be sexy [TS]

  but it was a real martin sass wasn't it was an old-fashioned humor it was like [TS]

  very modern speak and it was it was actually quite disorienting for a second [TS]

  that moment right there when the pilot says even talk first my get talks first [TS]

  and then I'll iran says something and then he does another joke which is that [TS]

  he says it's it's very hard to understand you with all the apparatus [TS]

  he's making fun of the of the mask this guys wearing that was one moment where I [TS]

  was thinking like oh I was a little worried at that point because it is that [TS]

  to me just doesn't feel Star Wars because it is very modern I'm not saying [TS]

  it's bad but it was a moment where everything was going great on this train [TS]

  and in my mind anyway like we hit a tiny bump and now I'm suddenly cautious again [TS]

  writes like shields up a little bit worried just again just because I want [TS]

  your watching the movie you just wanted to go so well in the experiences in the [TS]

  past have been so bad [TS]

  release I was anyway like hyper sensitive to everything that felt like [TS]

  slightly slightly off right at the beginning I was not a fan of that and I [TS]

  wasn't a fan of it on the second viewing again but this is where we will start to [TS]

  get into some of the things that I think are little bit off a little bit [TS]

  it did remove a lot of the gravitas of characters that i think is supposed to [TS]

  have some gravitas it did later on I i mean I really liked the humor in the [TS]

  film I'm sure we'll talk about that but there were a couple of times with the [TS]

  humor felt like it was too much from the streets of New York and not enough from [TS]

  a long time ago in a galaxy far far away there's a few things then felt I feel [TS]

  like I can say this it felt like to american in a way and in a few moments [TS]

  in the movie was ok that's feels very American and it does it doesn't feel [TS]

  like this this other place but yeah but relative relatively minor thing [TS]

  relatively minor thing at the moment since I just talked about a moment where [TS]

  I was a little bit worried about stuff I kind of want to talk about the the [TS]

  moment when I felt just sold on this movie and just really stopped thinking [TS]

  about watching the Star Wars movie and I started just watching a Star Wars movie [TS]

  yeah and this was this was when they have the introduction for the main [TS]

  character of the movie the girl ray yeah and so they there's these establishing [TS]

  shots of her and she is a scavenger on new Tatooine and she's pulling apart all [TS]

  of these ships and she has this this like I don't know how long it is maybe [TS]

  you five minute introductory scene seven minutes or so where that is totally free [TS]

  of dialogue and she's she's not saying anything the movie just showing her [TS]

  going about her her life is a scavenger and it's great because they're in the [TS]

  background their these scenes of these big ships that have crashed on [TS]

  Jaku and they don't bother explaining like how the ship's got that like who [TS]

  cares it just looks Star Wars here's this person going through the rubbish [TS]

  and there's just this little moment when she's collected up all of her stuff and [TS]

  she puts it on this little sledge is on the top of a sand dune and she slides [TS]

  down the San do [TS]

  and there's this just to my mind this pitch perfect musical that is is that [TS]

  the use throughout the movie but it's the first time you hear it I've been [TS]

  thinking about that shot I don't know why but for some reason that was just [TS]

  the moment I felt like this is really great you have injuries done at the [TS]

  bombastic here's some fight scene of their spaceships here in there like no [TS]

  you're establishing a new character you're also you're also taking your time [TS]

  in doing this you don't feel rushed very much like the earlier Star Wars movies [TS]

  which are surprisingly slow in some scenes when you watch them now this felt [TS]

  like the same thing like you taking plenty of time to do it and then on top [TS]

  of it you have new music but it's still feels like Star Wars and it still feels [TS]

  like this belongs right in in the movie I love the non smoking establishment of [TS]

  her as a brand new character and that was the point where I really feel like [TS]

  I'm just sitting back and just watching this movie and I'm not really nervous [TS]

  about it anymore or thinking about him watching a brand new Star Wars I'm just [TS]

  engaged with the new character who is doing things in this world like that's [TS]

  that's where I really felt sold on this establishing so much about her you know [TS]

  she's she's tecnico she's resourceful she's she's she's like muscular like [TS]

  she's action she's a she's a woman of action all the time even through that [TS]

  even through that sort of gentle breather after the action he's not used [TS]

  to so much about her in a short space of time still and watching that silent [TS]

  introduction the second time I was even just more aware of all of the things [TS]

  that are being established about her and also I don't know who that actress is [TS]

  never seen her before in anything but man I i think [TS]

  she nails that role every line in every scene I just think she just hits it [TS]

  right out of the park there's something about her that she's just so natural [TS]

  that she really feels a part of the Star Wars world unlike some other people I [TS]

  might mention later but I just thought she was she was just amazing she just [TS]

  fits so perfectly and it's one of these things that I can never quite put my [TS]

  finger on it but some some actors and actresses are just so natural on-screen [TS]

  you just feel like they are what they are and other people you feel like oh [TS]

  you're a good actor but I'm aware of you is being an actor and she was just the [TS]

  total natural so I felt like man who have you found her from the casting [TS]

  department it was just an amazing choice she was so good even just even just [TS]

  little things about in this silent introduction when they show her eating [TS]

  the bread that she's earned from from the items that she has scavenged she's [TS]

  eating that bread convincingly like a person who is really hungry and not [TS]

  doing it in an overly obvious way it's just so natural I guess this is a person [TS]

  who got less food than they were expecting from their scavenging and [TS]

  she's she's hungry and she's she's eating this and it sounds dumb to [TS]

  mention that but it's it's just a just a pleasure to watch them on screen who's [TS]

  just so so good at their job is she was really really just amazing [TS]

  on Mon lot side least here geez absolute top number one i think she's the best [TS]

  thing about the whole film yeah without a doubt that the actress is also the [TS]

  characters she does a great performance but the character so interesting and [TS]

  because their costumes great like every every every single thing about that [TS]

  character ray is is brilliant and I think she is absolutely makes the film I [TS]

  always wanted to say what she was up to when she was on screen could you imagine [TS]

  just imagine if George Lucas had to write a three-minute silence scene for [TS]

  introducing a new character how [TS]

  how unbearably awful would that be would he even try now of course not but it's [TS]

  and that's where like that just felt really great like man I am in the hands [TS]

  of a competent team was able to show me things without having to explain things [TS]

  like that they're people who are thinking about this where they show her [TS]

  writing the notches on the wall so you have some sense though she's been in [TS]

  this place for a long time you know everything about her life like you said [TS]

  you you learn this from her and she is great and and the the directing team [TS]

  even things like I just kept thinking wow there are interesting camera angles [TS]

  in this movie like they're choosing to put the camera in [TS]

  angled locations to show you a bunch of different stuff actually I realized on [TS]

  the second time around her first line of dialogue is in them is in some made up [TS]

  language right she's she's yelling at the guy who finds the the Droid BB 8900 [TS]

  she's she's yelling in a in a different language and it just comes off as [TS]

  convincing as she she sounds like she does speak some other language and and [TS]

  even then she makes like a little head gesture and she should she's the Droid [TS]

  she just comes off right away as very very competent character and and and a [TS]

  great actress yes seriously Daisy Ridley's the actress's name however I [TS]

  feel like this is a moment where maybe I would take something which is on the [TS]

  dark side as as you have divided your lists let me get my dockside paper as [TS]

  well as well as my tax ID paper cuz for as much as I love lots of stuff in this [TS]

  movie showing you things without explaining it to you I feel like there [TS]

  was some writer on the team or someone who felt that there had to be lots of [TS]

  exposition that was redundant in the movie there are tons of lines in this [TS]

  movie where people say things twice or three times right in a row and it just [TS]

  really irked the heck out of me and this girl has one of those lines where she is [TS]

  she goes into town with BB 8-18 you in the silence seen we have established [TS]

  that she's obviously been there for a long time she's taking off his remarks [TS]

  on the wall [TS]

  but she says the to the Droid I know all about 180 for my family [TS]

  they'll be back I feel like these these lines like we know you're waiting for [TS]

  someone you don't need to explicitly say this out loud and I just like they were [TS]

  a bunch of lines were someone would just say things several times over and over [TS]

  again and I just found that kind of your eating like the exposition dial in [TS]

  dialogue was was turned up way too many times I gotta have a couple notes for [TS]

  similar similar lines were someone else later in the movie says the Droid is in [TS]

  the hands of your father Hans solo it again now we know we got it right we got [TS]

  it but you don't you have to say it twice that everybody in the movie knows [TS]

  what you're talking about I meet people don't always pay attention and if things [TS]

  are really important you gonna make sure they know them they're cut the times I [TS]

  agree I think I don't think her putting notches on the wall of her of her home [TS]

  or if she was immediately said to me she was waiting for something we did need to [TS]

  be told she was waiting for people to come back with but they are real they [TS]

  visit that later in the movie later in the lobby where they do it like it's not [TS]

  necessary to do right now you have some sense you have some sense of this [TS]

  already and I think it'd be more powerful leader if you don't like hammer [TS]

  it home and you know and then lined a great in the beginning when someone is [TS]

  talking to Kyle 0 ran away and he says over the first-order rose from the [TS]

  darkside you did not write telling us the color and didn't start out evil then [TS]

  his very next line is you can't deny the origin of your family is ok but you [TS]

  could have stopped did you did not like we understand he didn't start out on the [TS]

  dark side you don't have to like super hammered in I think my favorite my [TS]

  favorite example of this is is down at the very end they mention someone that [TS]

  the pilot guy has a line about it's it's destroying the Sun right in when the Sun [TS]

  is when the Sun is gone then the other weapon as ready as I okay that's a great [TS]

  line he says so as long as it's light out we still have a chance attacking you [TS]

  did you just said that like you just said that line with your previous line [TS]

  that that's probably one of things just irritated me the most is feeling like [TS]

  there were lots of these lines for people who like [TS]

  really trying to make sure that you following along and I understand what [TS]

  movies do that but I just don't know if you like you I always one less [TS]

  exposition then there are movies and this movie felt like they were a few [TS]

  really egregious lines of of exposition I agree with that someone later in the [TS]

  film I thought that was that was later a bit thick but I also think the fact you [TS]

  saw this film twice in three days is contributing to that and I think it's [TS]

  definitely not because that was that was I have fun looking on on my screen [TS]

  working on my screen the two sets of notes that I have which was the first [TS]

  reaction notes and my first reaction notes has a big thing saying there's 22 [TS]

  much as 20% too much exposition and I wrote down that line about light and [TS]

  made a note from future me to find some of the other lines because the first [TS]

  time I watched it I felt like there's just too much of this is too much of [TS]

  this I mean I've heard you complain about this with other films to them as [TS]

  well you know i think i think you know everyone pays close to pay close [TS]

  attention so I feel about the same way but not everyone pays close attention I [TS]

  was a bit too much about but I don't think at like crippled the film and and [TS]

  I need the gym no I don't I don't think so either but it's one of the things I [TS]

  like when you're really enjoying the movie I just find that stuff like sticks [TS]

  in his stick side as this would be a better movie it without this yeah that's [TS]

  also do you have something from your dark side list that you want to mention [TS]

  something this semi related and almost funny that this is this kind of almost [TS]

  goes against what you said and that is I felt like this film like a a big [TS]

  complaint about the terrible terrible prequels is that they completely [TS]

  abandoned sort of characters and interesting counties and they [TS]

  concentrated on this boring politics and this is this big the match the Metro [TS]

  story of what's going on in the galaxy I feel like this film went very very far [TS]

  in the other direction to the point where I kinda didn't understand the big [TS]

  picture very much and therefore I didn't really care [TS]

  about some of the things that were going on like who's in charge of the galaxy [TS]

  now and that that planet they blew up I I sort of had the impression that the [TS]

  bad guys the empire had sort of had retained control after Return of the [TS]

  Jedi but then these bad guys with their stock of blowing up is that the planet [TS]

  with the Senate on it they just blew up so it is the zip code is as the military [TS]

  take over the government and let and hang on so princess Leia's like still a [TS]

  rebel so there is still rebels so the bad guys are still in control so why [TS]

  they why do they play that up and and lots and lots of the stuff happening at [TS]

  the higher level like the big the big politics I was completely bamboozled by [TS]

  and therefore I was finding it hard to sort of like a those guys with the stock [TS]

  cooler bad so obviously a play that thing up but who's in charge but what's [TS]

  going on there was there was a lot of the macro was lost on me I was very [TS]

  engaged with the micro but the big picture was lost to me and therefore for [TS]

  example at the end of a new hope you just want that Death Star blown up so [TS]

  bad you know you know how bad is you know who's good you know who's bad this [TS]

  this attack is the culmination but by the end of force awakens it's a bit like [TS]

  you care about the star killer thing and therefore this big siege at the end when [TS]

  I fly unemployed up it's a bit like yeah I can see why your blood that bad but it [TS]

  wasn't it wasn't God thank God it's gone it's gone it's gone the Death Star was [TS]

  gonna blow up every plan and the Galaxy it was really feel it is Starkiller on [TS]

  like we win next ok what what massive spherical planet destroying device that [TS]

  they're gonna be a next whistle blew up a similar thing in my first reaction [TS]

  notes that I was I was thinking oh did I miss something here because I had a note [TS]

  about the first-order Senate resistance question mark and my feeling was I don't [TS]

  understand the relationship between these three entities and you know when [TS]

  I'm what when I was first watching the movie it was ok I'm just going along [TS]

  with this we have we have obviously the bad guys and obviously the good guy [TS]

  guys but as soon as the star killer came online it did immediately drawn to my [TS]

  attention like wait I don't actually understand what's going on because this [TS]

  resistance seems separates from the senate it doesn't it doesn't seem like [TS]

  they are connected and when I was watching a movie a second time I was [TS]

  trying to pay attention they did I miss online like something explaining [TS]

  something here and we really know and there's actually a line that made me [TS]

  even more confused because when the when the evil general is giving his big [TS]

  speech about how we're going to destroy that senate he makes he makes some [TS]

  remark i wish i I caught it the exact remark but he makes some remark that [TS]

  it's the lead me to believe that there is some formal separation between the [TS]

  senate and the resistance he makes remarkable how ago that the senate is [TS]

  you know is lying about something about the resistance and then it's ok now this [TS]

  is really unclear the relationship between these entities like i presume [TS]

  that the senate is running the Galaxy now and then the first order is the [TS]

  remnants of the empire with incredible resources like oh don't mind us with our [TS]

  terror but then like where the rebellion fits into that is very confusing to me [TS]

  that like if you are not the area where the resistance in the give you are not [TS]

  the army of the senate like I'm I am confused now like you're in it you [TS]

  princess Lalla how are you connected to all of this is that felt weird the film [TS]

  would have made more sense if the resistance princess layer and the people [TS]

  with the ex wings was the military branch of the Senate but then they would [TS]

  no longer be underdogs they would be part of the establishment and you'd lose [TS]

  that whole dynamic so for some reason they've made them to some sort of [TS]

  splinter freedom fighters when when it doesn't really logically may make sense [TS]

  i mean because who they're resisting this first order lunch like you know the [TS]

  enemy that the outsiders or are they all are [TS]

  I actually had the impression that the first order was the military branch of [TS]

  the the Senate but the government and that gone bad you know because they've [TS]

  got an army that was confusing it remains confusing to me it remains [TS]

  confusing I'm sure there are answers to all these me extended universe like all [TS]

  of us like I don't really care I'm just watching this movie and I'm curious but [TS]

  the things in the universe of the movie but yeah I did think it was it was weird [TS]

  and a weird dynamic is like you want both of these sides to be underdogs they [TS]

  don't it's it's strange if it was a bit strange it's a it's a minor complaint [TS]

  but it is definitely one of the things I think of is the mark of a good movie is [TS]

  that the more you think about the movie the more the movie rewards you for [TS]

  thinking about it and bad movies are the kind of movies where you have to say I [TS]

  movie just don't think about it because if you think about it all you know it [TS]

  all just falls to pieces right and it doesn't work at all and I definitely [TS]

  have found myself thinking about the Star Wars movie a lot which is great but [TS]

  this is one of those moments was like don't don't think about the connection [TS]

  between these three entities too much I don't don't think about it because it [TS]

  it's it's it causes a little bit of a problem and it's not really explained so [TS]

  it's I think it's interesting that you picked up on that as as well I thought [TS]

  the character of skin [TS]

  this is asked a stormtrooper turned turned hero was also really good also [TS]

  super strong you know from that moment we see in the trailer where his head [TS]

  pops up and he looks like he's overreacting a little bit I'm thinking [TS]

  I'll know what have they done again I really liked him I really like to I [TS]

  really cared about him and that's that's the that's the most important thing is [TS]

  that you care about care about because he was I thought he put in a good [TS]

  performance there were 10 times I think he pushed the credibility of what that [TS]

  character would do under the circumstances when you go sexy and funny [TS]

  and remain [TS]

  there a few times like now you wouldn't be acting that way in these [TS]

  circumstances so that so for that reason you know he wasn't quite as a [TS]

  superlative characters say the rate character but I thought he was really [TS]

  good hit really good chemistry with the right character I'm really intrigued as [TS]

  to you know what will happen with their relationship so I thought another real [TS]

  asset to the film you know I think that I think they've done really well they're [TS]

  totally with their two most important characters on the hero side of things [TS]

  yes [TS]

  disagree a little bit because I really like the characters well I think the [TS]

  idea of having the storm trooper as as a character is is very good I like the [TS]

  role that he plays in the movie but he would he was one of the the actors were [TS]

  alike [TS]

  you're not there are a bunch of lines that he gives in the movie that I felt [TS]

  were clunky and he he was one of the major before saying something's felt a [TS]

  little bit to american and he was one of these things that there were moments [TS]

  with you you sound very American [TS]

  in a few of these scenes but a bit off again it just it's it's so hard they can [TS]

  watching movie is it so hard to pin down why things are different because [TS]

  Harrison Ford shows up in this movie and he talks and he's obviously American and [TS]

  he actually is American and it doesn't it doesn't feel that way but the guy [TS]

  playing Finn had a few lines I just feel like this is out of place that's what I [TS]

  meant when I said you wouldn't act that way a lot when he when he confronts his [TS]

  old stormtrooper boss towards the end of the film [TS]

  me now sort of that kind of calm in charge of charge I mean that was that [TS]

  was that mister that mister bay in a very jarring way that sort of punch out [TS]

  of the film for a for a few seconds so there yet that that's why wasn't you [TS]

  know that's why I said it wasn't as perfect a sort of the rain go away I [TS]

  don't remember ever being ever been now I know she's but she's Pittsburgh the [TS]

  whole way through but I think it's not even the lines that he has to deliver [TS]

  which sometimes they're hard sometimes but it's the way he delivers them it's [TS]

  it's his accent in his way of speaking feel like clunky lines and i ended up [TS]

  looking him up because I wanted to know if I think she's my suspicions about [TS]

  this I found out he's actually English he went to school in london keyes other [TS]

  person I have no idea who he is [TS]

  which for a Star Wars movie by the way is the right way to go you don't wanna [TS]

  have very obvious known characters are very obvious known actors in your Star [TS]

  Wars movie you want to find a new crop of people who are talented I think [TS]

  that's a really hard job to do [TS]

  unknowns were relative unknowns we're also really good but he is English maybe [TS]

  it was because he is obviously trying to hide his English accent in the movie [TS]

  because maybe they don't want their two main characters do have the same accent [TS]

  which is quite reasonable but I wonder if that's why some of his his lines of [TS]

  dialogue just feel really really clunky to me when he delivers them as I go [TS]

  you're you're not using a natural voice are trying to put on an accent and your [TS]

  accent sounds very American but maybe because it's not exactly American is why [TS]

  it feels off and weird sometimes so my feeling is is he was fine but i ik I [TS]

  would not say that he was great like I really like the character but I don't [TS]

  think that the actor did a perfect job with with what he was with what he was [TS]

  given speaking of people sending americans let's come under Carrie Fisher [TS]

  for a minute I don't know what's happened with her voice but she has sort [TS]

  of an odd voice now and she sounded her she sounded distractingly American to me [TS]

  like really strong I don't know what her accent is what part of america's from [TS]

  Harrison Ford lots of people have American accents and nothing of the sort [TS]

  of India's fishes Jackson her voice has changed in such a way over the years [TS]

  that she her voice really distracted me i i had real problems with with her she [TS]

  sounded character Carrie Fisher has been through quite a rough time since the [TS]

  Star Wars movies in this galaxy and that galaxy [TS]

  time so it is not surprising that her her voice sounds shockingly different [TS]

  sounds like no sound like someone who's been through a rough time it is weird [TS]

  because when she did first come on camera I found her distracting as well [TS]

  as a few you look very different and you sound very different and I find you [TS]

  quite distracting again in a way that I just I was impressed by how did not [TS]

  distracting old Harrison Ford was I was expecting it to be a bit oh god that's [TS]

  off-camera as fast as possible but I think he did a great job and then he was [TS]

  really believe I think they gave him too much action work today I think he I [TS]

  think that when he's running around on that freighter when those monsters are [TS]

  on the loose [TS]

  he's really lumbering like I'm thinking there's no way you're going to get away [TS]

  from those monsters like you are to be much longer and it's it's it's low [TS]

  hanging fruit on these people for being a bit wooden now but I think he was too [TS]

  old for some of the things he was being us today and it was a few times I was [TS]

  thinking fella don't make it don't make him run there someone going aside from [TS]

  that that monster sequence when they're on the spaceship and the monsters get [TS]

  loose which for me might be the low point of the film is that monster [TS]

  sequence totally agree that whole sequence up on that ship was was was [TS]

  definitely the the low ebb it is the low sequence because ok so what's happening [TS]

  in the movie at this point right is that our main characters have escaped with [TS]

  the Millennium Falcon and Harrison Ford finds them and brings the Millennium [TS]

  Falcon on board his ship and there is just this convoluted sequence that the [TS]

  end result is like luxuries we want movie we want Harrison Ford back on the [TS]

  Millennium Falcon [TS]

  everybody wants that harrison ford wants to get back on the Millennium Falcon she [TS]

  wants to get back on the Millennium Falcon everybody wants wants to get [TS]

  there and it seems to me like you know what you can do movie you could just [TS]

  just have Han Solo be really happy that he's found the Millennium Falcon again [TS]

  and just fly away on it just abandon his current ship which makes reference to [TS]

  his being too big for him to fly anyway because he doesn't have enough of the [TS]

  crew like just have him leave but instead there is this very long sequence [TS]

  where you know whatever it is that these people that Harrison Ford has had past [TS]

  dealings with a land on the ship and there's like an argument and then [TS]

  there's monsters escape all of this is just to get him on the Millennium Falcon [TS]

  and if I don't [TS]

  agree with you there were a few things that needed new chief to that point in [TS]

  the film I do agree that they took the wrong way and they could have done it [TS]

  much simpler with you know they could not handle of different ways they did [TS]

  have to establish that he has spent a long time away as a smuggler he's back [TS]

  on the smuggling track right and he'd been and he's been doing it for a while [TS]

  cause these double-crossed so many people so he's not just away from layer [TS]

  for 10 minutes he's like he's out on the loose again on his own he's out getting [TS]

  cigarettes or anything it's been it's been years and we also had to find a [TS]

  mechanism for word to get back to the First Republic that Han Solo has the [TS]

  Droid so there has to be someone to tell on him so someone has to know this so [TS]

  there there were a few little things that have to happen but here I could [TS]

  have been done a lot quicker and easier than this very non Star Wars moment of [TS]

  this of these monsters roaming around the ship join a global everyone up it [TS]

  was felt like pac-man frankly these these these circular monsters are [TS]

  rolling around the hallway eating everybody like the pellets and the [TS]

  monsters are exactly the right size of all of the hallways in the spaceship [TS]

  like me if you made your always two feet shorter bigger problem anywhere let's [TS]

  get to be lucky for the video games and you know what [TS]

  menu just nailed on the head that feel like a sequence that it really does it's [TS]

  also when the kind of thing that happens in movies are just really annoys me [TS]

  happens which is you see these monsters with their tentacles grab and eat all of [TS]

  these peripheral smugglers who were on board but then when one of the monsters [TS]

  gradstein our main character [TS]

  the magic of the script protects him from being eaten immediately and [TS]

  suddenly the monster decide the column full I'm just gonna run away with this [TS]

  person instead of just eating him as you would expect as you would expect the [TS]

  month to do and I always feel like that's just cheap oh you've changed the [TS]

  rules so that your main character is perfectly fine I have to say I quite I [TS]

  really quite liked again because her character is perfect in every way I love [TS]

  the fact that Ray doesn't try to fight the monster or find him like she's smart [TS]

  enough to go look at the surveillance [TS]

  and try to time it with closing the door on the tentacles I love that whole thing [TS]

  and I super love that she doesn't bother to explain that she's saved his ass when [TS]

  they get up again when it when when the door closes that was lucky and they keep [TS]

  moving I love that little that little moment because her humility as well as [TS]

  humor and yes but it's not even a humility it's a kind of pragmatism [TS]

  pragmatism we gotta keep moving right there's no time to explain this even if [TS]

  I want to take credit like not now I will talk about it later over beer or [TS]

  something but we gotta go to get out of here now that I think about it that I [TS]

  don't know if I'm reading too much into it but that doesn't have a nice occur [TS]

  later in the film doesn't know when they come and save her and he doesn't say it [TS]

  was my idea to come and save you it's chilly that tells her so it's almost [TS]

  like but thats comes back doesn't he could have he could have said Jerry want [TS]

  to save you and taken some credit but he didn't and someone else did it for him [TS]

  yeah yeah it is it is it is a little bit of an echo but I I don't know if it's [TS]

  intentional but I'm still gonna say that that whole sequence it is the part where [TS]

  it feels like ok I'm on my second watch through you know as soon as all the [TS]

  monsters escape the perfect time to go the battery back when this chase [TS]

  sequences over even the shift in Felixstowe will ship it felt like it was [TS]

  like my alien or something and it just it was it was it was a node is not part [TS]

  of it was it was a strange part 1 the sportswear imagine that people do the [TS]

  the recut you know they would cut it down to be much shorter I did like the [TS]

  Millennium Falcon going into hyperspace with the monster suck sucking on the [TS]

  front of it I couldn't wait to see what would happen as they fired up the [TS]

  engines couldn't wait to see what they did to what was going to happen to it [TS]

  that is an example of things are better when they just happen but you don't [TS]

  focus on it so that is not a dramatic shot of the monster getting just plowed [TS]

  through by the Millennium Falcon you just can't see it in the background as [TS]

  does mouth that is over the front of the ship and then it separates so you know [TS]

  what's happened you know they're just right through it [TS]

  and i just i love that kind of stuff in movies like don't over focused on it [TS]

  it's better if you just have a thing happen but don't give me all of these [TS]

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  if we're going to be able to stretch and talked for an hour about this I think [TS]

  we're gonna be alright I wasn't sure if I wasn't sure if we're going to make it [TS]

  for an hour I will I will pick something from a light side list which I have to [TS]

  mention complain about things [TS]

  BB 8 [TS]

  much better than expected I was a little worried from the trailer like here's a [TS]

  robot that's made for toys but a holy crap is BB ate a horrible he's [TS]

  absolutely adorable in every scene and I am totally sold on the decision to have [TS]

  his little head rotate atop the ball body because when you watch it you [TS]

  realize man this so much [TS]

  animation as possible compared to something like r2d2 [TS]

  you feel a lot of emotion from r2d2 you have a sense of him as a character but [TS]

  BBA is able to remote through motion in a way that r2d2 c3po really isn't like [TS]

  they are so much more limited in their movement but his ability to swirl his [TS]

  little head around and and look in different directions it gives him such a [TS]

  character and he is no cute cute such a softy gray tell you talk when you're [TS]

  playing with Audrey when they're in the Millennium Falcon just shortly before [TS]

  Han Solo arrives there is a scene that to me it pushes the edge of things but [TS]

  but comes just short of going over my threshold for it but i i think maybe my [TS]

  favorite little sequence in the movie is Wednesday and confesses to BB 8 that [TS]

  he's not really part of the resistance gotta gotta go with me on this one I [TS]

  can't we just can't you just tell us whether rebel bases and I just think [TS]

  it's something that's really cute about that moment and I absolutely love winter [TS]

  in gives him the thumbs-up and BB 8 sticks out his little lighter thing and [TS]

  gives it a little a little his imitation of a thumbs-up that is right on the edge [TS]

  of something that I would be if the movie was done less well but it just [TS]

  came in under and I totally love that little sequence I i join the sequence I [TS]

  think the little cigarette lighter thumbs up it was stretching it and maybe [TS]

  that just just put a toke over the line for half a second game [TS]

  everything came before it gives it cause it is a funny it is a funny little [TS]

  exchange between the two is definitely a subjective moment like for you it's [TS]

  slightly over the edge and for me it is fairly under [TS]

  has barely under but it is saved by the fact that again it is so fast it is just [TS]

  a split second that he does the little later thing and pulls it right back in [TS]

  you know they focused on it too long is now this is no good but I absolutely [TS]

  love that that was that was really great [TS]

  some of the big things what did you think about new Vader Tyler ran I liked [TS]

  him I thought I like too many was menacing with his mask I thought he he [TS]

  was cool looking not over the top he looked like he looked real lucky look [TS]

  like they were trying to make something that looked amazing they were just [TS]

  making a quiet cool and standard villain when he was out of the mask and being [TS]

  like you know just the dude I thought he was close to being a little beer young [TS]

  Anakin Skywalker windy but he just he just acted well enough to get away get [TS]

  away with a chance I like to I like him as a human as well I loved his temp I [TS]

  love that he kept his lightsaber out and having his temper tantrums I like that [TS]

  about him and I like that became his like but that moment with the storm [TS]

  troopers walk around the corner and they realize he's having another one of these [TS]

  tensions in this kind of back away was like one of the funniest bits of the [TS]

  film was the thing that makes them forming as hell though the one storm [TS]

  trooper put out his hand to stop the other one in the way to give a couples [TS]

  walking along the street and wonder this is something that the other one doesn't [TS]

  because they're talking about your hand to stop the other person than just a [TS]

  little humanizing moment as you can imagine they're having some conversation [TS]

  in their head communicators or whatever it is like a way to meet a buddy this [TS]

  before we got official somewhere else right now so I did like him I'll say [TS]

  something about the the final battle about it at the end though but I like to [TS]

  do you like him I thought he was really well done and the thing that I kept [TS]

  thinking which I was amazed by any case it's just the difference that competence [TS]

  makes [TS]

  is that this new Vader is an angst evader which is exactly the thing that [TS]

  everybody complains about in the prequels that the actual Darth Vader is [TS]

  an angsty kinda teenage character and the Chi Lorraine character feels that [TS]

  he's he is in that same genre like his temper tantrums later in the movie I [TS]

  think it's interesting that when the key is in a battle and he's really upset [TS]

  he's I don't know if it's on purpose but his voice is suddenly very different [TS]

  it's like he's lost control over projecting menace rate and he's he's [TS]

  much more closer to a screeching edge of things are mostly you would expect a [TS]

  teenager to be but it works it works and I think the reason it works is because [TS]

  the actor and the costume are still able to project menace and I think the first [TS]

  time he flips out is a really key scene when when there's always in Star Wars [TS]

  like you don't want to be the officer who has to report to the darkside guy [TS]

  that's not that nobody wants that job right now it's a terrible job much [TS]

  throat choking in that situation but the first time you go through this very Star [TS]

  Wars scene where the officer has to say oh we've lost the Droid and I think it's [TS]

  great because it is stabbed wishes him is being really menacing that he he [TS]

  trashes the console in front of him and then when the officer gives this [TS]

  additional piece of information it's such a great shot of him using the force [TS]

  to do not just force choke the guy but to pull him across the room to like [TS]

  inches in front of his face and it's that kind of thing that gives it it [TS]

  gives it menace and so it feels like ok he's not just throwing a tantrum because [TS]

  things haven't gone his way is a he is furious and upset but he is also [TS]

  dangerous and I think the actor actor does it really well and I kept looking [TS]

  at the costume which I thought was a really great comparison to later because [TS]

  it's so [TS]

  slender in many ways like he he is a slender guy he doesn't have the same [TS]

  kind of huge physical presence the Darth Vader does and I think that's a really [TS]

  good choice for doing something that is similar but you have the same kind of [TS]

  Darth Vader's feel but it is it's not the same and I just thought he looked [TS]

  great in a lot of those scenes as much more slender character he's even just [TS]

  wearing like this relatively light rope that doesn't even go all the way around [TS]

  him it's just it was a great visual look and I also thought the voice was done [TS]

  very well it was his his his voice over the way he spoke [TS]

  reminiscent of Vater but not a mimicry and I think it was it was also done [TS]

  really well that it it sounded like oh this is almost like a side effect of the [TS]

  kinds of helmets that all of these people wear because I was aware that [TS]

  when he spoke for the first time very shortly after they have the the female [TS]

  general start stormtrooper talk and her voice is also distorted in kind of a [TS]

  similar way and as his I feel like it almost establishes like oh he's not [TS]

  doing the Darth Vader impression they're all just talking through helmets that [TS]

  distort their voice and maybe it's the avid audio plugin they use all of these [TS]

  people sound like this and I think that's a good choice to very soon [TS]

  here and other character who sounds somewhat similar to him like it or not [TS]

  doing a Darth Vader voice this is just what storm stormtrooper helmets are like [TS]

  and he has a custom one I love that his mass blood was a bit dinged up well as [TS]

  well like it was just the mask look lived in a distro it was it was perfect [TS]

  I was really aware of that too that there were a few dings on the on the [TS]

  front the front faceplate that this is perfect this feels like a real universe [TS]

  think this is a guy who has used this mask over the course of time and it's [TS]

  it's a real thing that has been around for a long time it is not straight from [TS]

  the prop department even though it obviously is say the new the new coaches [TS]

  are doing well what about the ok as I I mentioned I thought I was a bit [TS]

  embarrassed by chance i load times [TS]

  aside from the weird action sequence on that that spaceship I felt mostly the [TS]

  script was actually pretty good and having him not do too much again if you [TS]

  put that one action sequences side there's not much to say how many shots [TS]

  of him running around he's in there were few there are a few where he's like [TS]

  shoot his blaster and being a hero and I'm thinkin yeah when shooting your [TS]

  blaster in being a hero is very different from running really don't show [TS]

  an old man running for the most part I think that's a good decision that he he [TS]

  is there he is doing things the one that to me is over the line is when he [TS]

  doesn't even look and shoots a stormtrooper that to me was like I'm [TS]

  hitting the no buzzer on that one [TS]

  you should cut that half second because because how is that even possible right [TS]

  is he just lucky going back again to think it think about something like the [TS]

  the scene earlier in the movie when rain and Finn are escaping on new Tatooine in [TS]

  the Millennium Falcon which is a great great fight sequence and she's flying [TS]

  from the inside of one of the crash star destroyers and the gun get stuck and she [TS]

  pulls on this amazing maneuver where she know she flies through and and shuts off [TS]

  the engine at just the right moment and turns the whole ship to line up the gun [TS]

  with Thai fighter so that finding the back and shoot the gun and hit think [TS]

  that that's seen in a Star Wars movie is believable because it's conveying to you [TS]

  immediately that she is more sensitive [TS]

  no one could pull off that maneuver like Han Solo couldn't have pulled off a [TS]

  maneuver she's only able to do it because she is special I feel like a [TS]

  game that that is again like the movie is telling you something about this [TS]

  character is done really well we're as Han Solo just shooting a stormtrooper [TS]

  without looking behind his back feels like it just feels done there's no [TS]

  reason for it to happen it doesn't make any sense in the context of the movie [TS]

  and after me it's it's over the line and I would if I always get out there like [TS]

  no jeje abrams we're just gonna cut this it's it's two seconds it adds nothing [TS]

  it's not actually that funny and it's a bit out of place [TS]

  you bring up the Millennium Falcon I wasn't entirely pleased with the use of [TS]

  the Millennium Falcon I thought they got a little bit comic book cartoonish with [TS]

  it at times one of the things I like about this is a sort of feels a bit like [TS]

  it obeys the laws of physics and you know if you're if you if you if your [TS]

  plane crashes into a forest that's like bad rights and I feel like I feel at the [TS]

  Millennium Falcon survived scrapes and landing incidents that the shuttle now [TS]

  bagged up old ship so shouldn't survive and it was performing maneuvers that it [TS]

  shouldn't be performing I thought the time when Ray flew on Dzeko was such an [TS]

  amazing saying and so much fun that I kind of a kind of forgave the amazing [TS]

  nimbleness it was showing flying inside a Star Destroyer I forgave that yeah and [TS]

  and you point out showed that she said she had something special about her that [TS]

  she could do that very implausible move of turning it off and turning it on [TS]

  right before the impossibility is a plot point as opposed to just something that [TS]

  is happening whereas seconds earlier when she tries to take off and it its [TS]

  matches against the ground and then smashes into a building I agree with you [TS]

  it feels like is there physics here because I'm pretty sure that things [TS]

  should have been torn to pieces [TS]

  the landing on the sly planner and coming out of hyperspace so close to a [TS]

  plan and then landing on the planet the way they did like that just that was [TS]

  like ok this is like this is not believable I didn't I didn't like that [TS]

  and it also didn't feel necessary of a kind of saved why they did it with the [TS]

  snow planet because otherwise you landed on the snow plan it would be like what [TS]

  is then is there has been no freakiness required to get there [TS]

  the movie won some reason why they and only vacant land and this maneuver is [TS]

  the reason but it doesn't make sense when you think about it too long [TS]

  yes I I don't think like it was all this talk about how you know thank goodness [TS]

  Lucas didn't destroy the millennium pakistanis prequels and [TS]

  and James will treat it with care and respect it deserves [TS]

  I don't think it was treated with care and respect it deserves and I thought it [TS]

  became it was used to match and it was used [TS]

  into into his silly ways and I think it didn't do justice to the to the great [TS]

  lady of the skies I get I can definitely agree with you there like the crash [TS]

  landing in the forest it feels like I remember in a previous movie when ever [TS]

  so slightly bumping against the inside of a Death Star ripped off a vital [TS]

  component are we not in that same universe now we can just smash straight [TS]

  through trees and it's fine it just seemed it does seem a little bit does [TS]

  seem a little bit too much but speaking speaking of for sensitivity there is one [TS]

  thing in the movie that then I really feel very strongly about is just a [TS]

  terrible terrible mistake and it is near the end of his fans lightsaber battle [TS]

  with our new character Tyler on yet and when I first watched the movie I really [TS]

  didn't like this scene and I thought maybe I'm being too hard on it let me [TS]

  watch a closer and in the second watching and I hate it even more on the [TS]

  second rewatching I think nothing about that scene makes any sense it shouldn't [TS]

  happen it's bad for both characters I just I love that lightsaber seems so [TS]

  much is just the two of them in the forest before so this is yes this is [TS]

  Vinh vs Chi lo ran in the forest its snowing which by the way on the [TS]

  lightsaber fights in the in the snow in forest beautiful scene I love that they [TS]

  get just it looks gorgeous let me say that is it's it's phenomenal but [TS]

  haha why on earth can fin use a lightsaber competently it again against [TS]

  someone who's already shown as he's pretty handy with the full yeah I know [TS]

  he's injured by getting shot by chilly but it was still I think the movie was [TS]

  trying to do because there was one done seen which actually makes me think of [TS]

  indiana Jones which is the first time venues [TS]

  the lightsaber is whether they visited the the man's character there on that [TS]

  forest planets and the storm troopers have landed and he's out there he's [TS]

  unarmed he has only the lightsaber [TS]

  ok that's reasonable he's going to have to use a lightsaber in a situation [TS]

  because he doesn't have a gun fair enough so he goes out to the field he [TS]

  kills a stormtrooper but then another storm trooper in this in this moment [TS]

  which made me laugh a little bit wasn't supposed to this other stormtrooper sees [TS]

  him recognizes him goes trader and does this weird like throw down gesture where [TS]

  he just drops whatever the heck is he's carrying can't even tell what it's [TS]

  supposed to be on screen [TS]

  and then he pulls out some kind of big electric baton to like wait a minute why [TS]

  isn't this like Indiana Jones why don't you [TS]

  stormtrooper just shoot him you like you have a gun while he's not going to be [TS]

  able to deflect votes like Luke Skywalker yes he's not he's not a Jedi [TS]

  you know he's not a Jedi [TS]

  that fight scene was so dumb it's also really confusing because it was about [TS]

  selling Tony Abbott what is this what is this weapon this storm trooper has that [TS]

  is a melee weapon that light sabers can't cut through that you have this [TS]

  weapon that is can go up against a lightsaber ok that's very interesting [TS]

  and quite notable for thing that you're just going to casually have happen but [TS]

  what I think the movie was trying to establish their [TS]

  in the dumbest way possible had for some bizarre reason storm troopers have long [TS]

  sword combat training that this is a thing that they have like I think that's [TS]

  what the movie is trying to establish as setting it up for the lightsaber scene [TS]

  at the end low will call me dumb maybe I did need some exposition their way he [TS]

  says boy that's or training I've had over cause I completely missed that I [TS]

  mean I don't know if it's intentional but that's that's my guess about what [TS]

  the movie is trying to tell you but it's just implausible I i dont members of the [TS]

  UN's armed forces I would love to know that I'm pretty sure that they train you [TS]

  with guns and I'm pretty sure that they would train you in hand-to-hand combat [TS]

  don't imagine there's a lot of fencing training going on in the USSR me and it [TS]

  would make no sense for storm troopers to have that kind of training but OK [TS]

  even giving this ridiculous premise that they're doing long sword fights at [TS]

  stormtrooper Academy why on earth can he hold his own against Kyllo ran in a [TS]

  lightsaber fight for even a fraction of a second [TS]

  well enough ink on Iran's engine is in it that's what we're supposed to take [TS]

  the men they keep emphasizing their cause he keeps like touching his wounds [TS]

  and things so [TS]

  I think they're trying to somehow justify it by saying this guy's right [TS]

  he's you know he's right down on power mode we know that that's what they're [TS]

  trying to do and then they're overly emphasizing that he is injured because [TS]

  she shot him [TS]

  button loosen the key is still clearly force capable why is this fight even [TS]

  occurring why doesn't he just choked to death [TS]

  here's the way the scene in my mind has to go it has to be a bit like the [TS]

  Emperor at the end of the original trilogy who is electrocuting Luke and [TS]

  he's electrocuting Luke because they're showing you like the Emperor is really [TS]

  cruel and he gets enjoyment out of being cruel accuse you know he's not he's not [TS]

  actually trying to kill Luke and it's taking a long time because the Emperor [TS]

  is really bad with his lightning hands and he's he's doing it intentionally [TS]

  really and soda me this this scene in the end the only way this this scene can [TS]

  play out is if Kyle 0 Ren is just intentionally being cruel to fit in but [TS]

  they I was watching you really closely like they play it as though it is a real [TS]

  fight as though finn has some chance of winning and fan even land a blow right [TS]

  heel hands of blow on Carlo ran and and I'm sending now this is book like this [TS]

  this storm trooper he would just get his ass handed to him no matter how wounded [TS]

  Tyler Ennis like this should not be a fight and it irritates me because if you [TS]

  like it diminishes other lightsaber fights and it diminishes raised [TS]

  competence in using the lightsaber moments later any stormtrooper can just [TS]

  pick up a lightsaber and hold off hold their own for a little while against a [TS]

  very poor sense of individual no no you shouldn't even have Mughals using [TS]

  exactly that's that's precisely what is the only person on solo trying to save [TS]

  lives life on the outside with some amazing to see heads I'll even turn on a [TS]

  light sabers icon he knows where the on button is exactly [TS]

  exactly so that's if there's any if there's any genuine real I have a [TS]

  problem with this movie [TS]

  seen it is it is that light saber fight I just irritates me your teeth me a lot [TS]

  again because ray and the actors and like that seen with the two of them [TS]

  fighting is a great scene in the thing that's actually irritating about it is [TS]

  that when you watch that fight Kyllo ran when he goes up against Ray she is on [TS]

  the defensive for most of that fight but he is really pushing her back she is [TS]

  running and she is barely holding her own for most of that you see that's not [TS]

  my memory of my mind I mean you've seen it twice so you're right but my memory [TS]

  of that whole us actually I was disappointed by how strong she was from [TS]

  the start I actually found that implausible that someone who's only just [TS]

  discovered her for sensitivity and has never even switched on a lifesaver [TS]

  before I know she's gotta stick but it was so good luck I thought I thought [TS]

  that was implausible the whole finding kinda passed me by Audrey pay attention [TS]

  but I thought I thought the spanking she gave Carlo read was implausible I [TS]

  thought she should just scraped by in that fight that I thought she was [TS]

  dominant the way the fight plays out is that for the first half of it he is [TS]

  pushing her back and she is running and she's she's running away from him he [TS]

  corners her and the end he has little moment where he offers her training [TS]

  course and pushes the lightsaber up against righties pushing the lightsaber [TS]

  against her and then presumably she does a little like force meditation thing for [TS]

  a moment and gathers upper strength and that's when she then pushes back against [TS]

  him which I agree that it's not my favorite thing in a movie where [TS]

  character he's suddenly much more competent but it's ok I will let this go [TS]

  but but that's why when she first picked up that lightsaber she's being much more [TS]

  like a normal person who would be using it as a shield to deflect from incoming [TS]

  blues and trying to put distance between themselves and like this for as wielding [TS]

  maniac with his lightsaber you know but it is all he's perfectly capable in a [TS]

  fight so that's what I just didn't it didn't like that at all [TS]

  tell you what i don't i don't mean to get all mushy but that's saying when the [TS]

  lightsaber comes out of the snow towards bypasses him and goes into her head and [TS]

  then a little bit of Star Wars music place that check that checked me out [TS]

  there was great I was absolutely I was like i was thinkin that was like that [TS]

  was that was the emotional part the film was not bad I love it was a very it was [TS]

  a very Star Wars shot very very much a Star Wars feeling was one of your big [TS]

  bullet points at you when we gonna do with some of the really big things here [TS]

  that whether it's ok let's do with one of the biggest things about and that is [TS]

  the really obvious obvious way in which the force awakens and has incredible [TS]

  coincidence as with the first yeah I mean you've got you've got the desert [TS]

  the desert orphan a lonely person finding the Droid has the secret map and [TS]

  plans and then you've got that person meeting up with him so low and she [TS]

  backer and having some adventures and then you've got the big siege on the on [TS]

  the big spherical planet destroy at the end I mean it was the movie should be [TS]

  called Star Wars a new hope to yeah it was it was almost like a reboot in some [TS]

  ways I know their differences and I know it took some stuff from attended the [TS]

  Jedi and new hope in kind of match them together but it was almost because it [TS]

  was like and I'm not saying this is a bad thing maybe this is a good thing but [TS]

  it's almost like there's only one story to be told [TS]

  like Robin Hood that's that's how many ways can you tell the Robin Hood story [TS]

  is that is that what is that what we like about it is this is this is this is [TS]

  a remake rather than a sequel it's an interesting question because the movie [TS]

  is remarkably close to a route that reboot or remake [TS]

  I was gonna say almost embarrassingly so but I don't mean it in a way that the [TS]

  film and it's not embarrassing but almost like it's like a big elephant in [TS]

  the room it's like it's like you want to turn to the person next to say he saying [TS]

  this are you noticing history because this is exactly what happens and it's [TS]

  just different people acting up yeah it's always different people have [TS]

  different have some of the same people there admiral a car how are you doing I [TS]

  guess your fish species lives a remarkably long time ok there's a bunch [TS]

  of that which is is it's so it's so similar it's it's quite remarkable it's [TS]

  quite remarkable the force moves in mysterious ways maybe it's so what do [TS]

  you think do you think that's ok well obviously I do cause I liked the film [TS]

  it's kind of an original but maybe I just don't mind that I mean I could [TS]

  watch I could watch ten different robin hood movies you know I love you know out [TS]

  classic tales around classic tales and send Star Wars original trilogy has [TS]

  become an old classic timeless become a myth and we love watching a miscarry [TS]

  versions time and time again and maybe that's maybe that's what's happening [TS]

  before our eyes here it's sort of a revision of the myth with a few of the [TS]

  things that's weird is it so obviously connects with the original as well you [TS]

  know they talk they reference the original films obviously you know what [TS]

  happened back in the day so [TS]

  happened back in the day so [TS]

  that's that's where that line becomes very blurred but it's kind of like did [TS]

  you not have a new story like did you just could not think of a new story did [TS]

  you deliberately use the old story aid are you doing it because you think that [TS]

  would tap into a nostalgia are you doing it because you think this is maybe the [TS]

  way the force works and there's this kind of poetry it runs things going on I [TS]

  mean I don't I don't know I don't know if that's your little reference there is [TS]

  precisely what I was thinking through watching the whole movie the first time [TS]

  is in the red letter media reviews of the prequel movies they have a couple of [TS]

  shots of George Lucas behind the scenes saying this line about how he wants the [TS]

  prequels to be like poetry and to rhyme with the original trilogy that he thinks [TS]

  it's okay for similar things to happen because this is his idea of storytelling [TS]

  and red letter media really just slams him on this just again and again because [TS]

  it's just terrible those movies absolutely terrible and so I was [TS]

  watching watching this movie and thinking I kept hearing Lucas in my head [TS]

  going it's like poetry it runs this time I am ok with his father isn't it [TS]

  bothered me a little bit on the first watching but today when I want you to [TS]

  second time which now means I mean how many times have I seen a story where a [TS]

  gigantic planet rowing machine blows up in my life [TS]

  many many times and on the second watch through it it bothered me much much less [TS]

  I couldn't even really think about how this is exactly like a new hope again [TS]

  and it's just a thing again goes to the the lesson high competence makes all the [TS]

  difference does it really matter what the story is any story can be [TS]

  interesting if competently executed and a great story can be terrible if poorly [TS]

  executed now what I wonder though is why I think this has to have been a [TS]

  deliberate decision that they were going to essentially redo a new hope that cut [TS]

  not have noticed but i think is this is probably [TS]

  probably a good decision if you know you have competent people on board because I [TS]

  mean we now have Disney owns the intellectual property to start wars and [TS]

  so we know that there will be no shortage of Star Wars films in the [TS]

  future [TS]

  Disney has made remarks about this damn plans to do big movies and small movies [TS]

  very much like the way the Marvel universe is unfolding in in movies and [TS]

  TV shows now so there's going to be a lot more Star Wars and I think it's it's [TS]

  fine for this one to be a kind of remake of the older movies establishing that [TS]

  Star Wars feeling like yes people like that are more inclined to like this [TS]

  movie because its matching up with things that we know you already like its [TS]

  fine as long as from here on the feel that they can do more different things [TS]

  so if the next movie starts out on an ice planet and someone gets frozen in [TS]

  carbonite halfway through then I'll be concerned then I'll be like ok I see [TS]

  where this is going and I like it a lot less but but my feeling on this is [TS]

  you've established this Star Wars II feeling with a new characters with new [TS]

  characters and you cast a new world and it's going on and we're going to [TS]

  continue from here [TS]

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  Schroeder the first book is called son of son's it's perhaps one of the most [TS]

  imaginative settings I'll come across yet for a science fiction book this is [TS]

  going to sound a bit weird to describe it but it totally works the book takes [TS]

  place inside of a closed sphere decoding in outer space that is filled with air [TS]

  and there are new planets on the inside so humans in order to live inside this [TS]

  gigantic solar system [TS]

  sized fear they have to build what they call town wheels basically big cylinders [TS]

  that rotates to give them [TS]

  artificial gravity and for reasons that the book gets into later on it seems [TS]

  like technological progress is limited [TS]

  inside this gigantic fear it's just such a weird setting and I liked it as a [TS]

  science fiction book because it constantly deals with the setting like [TS]

  the very fact that people are living in this big open air solar system has a lot [TS]

  of interesting consequences I don't want to say too much that is a spoiler but so [TS]

  if you want to just quickly jump ahead at 10 seconds I will say one thing to [TS]

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  singularity fiction and I get to see much more than that the book doesn't [TS]

  really dwell on the singularity but it does sort of incidentally make reference [TS]

  to the fact that this is posting hilarity fiction and it's a very [TS]

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  another big picture thing to hear because you know a lot of people who [TS]

  don't like the prequels myself included always say they use of you know robbed [TS]

  me of the glory of these films that I loved when I was a child I think in some [TS]

  ways this film has robbed me of even more interesting because the final say [TS]

  in return of the Jedi is a very pleased burned into the memory of any young [TS]

  person isn't that there around the fire there happy the empire is vanquished [TS]

  you're full of hope and your imagination can run wild of Luke Skywalker becoming [TS]

  this great Jedi and happily ever after and had a layer of finally together [TS]

  forever like we always wanted them to pay and everything [TS]

  everything's gonna be good and now we know that that's not what happened later [TS]

  became estranged hand was due to die this terrible death some point in the [TS]

  future in these terrible terrible circumstances we know that Luke went off [TS]

  the rails and became this crazy unhappy so it's like all of that niceness I have [TS]

  at the end of the chain of the Jedi where I can stream of dream about what [TS]

  happened next and come away with this warm feeling is gone now like now [TS]

  whenever I watch that final scene Return of the Jedi [TS]

  look at them around the fire and go if you guys know what's coming next you [TS]

  would look so happy that is such a brady way to look at the end of a movie just [TS]

  sitting there thinking everything's going to be great from now on when I [TS]

  watch when I watch the end of July I I feel I can feel happy for them having [TS]

  won this battle but I always had the feeling of cicada what what happens next [TS]

  and what I don't expect to happen next is just a party on Endor for all of high [TS]

  but that's not what course of course but that's not what we return of the Jedi is [TS]

  Return of the Jedi isn't supposed to be another yet another battle one it's the [TS]

  end of the war the first two films are a series of battles they they win a battle [TS]

  they lose a battle they weren't about to lose about you and then at the very end [TS]

  they win the war and that is what is so beautiful everything [TS]

  everything has you know that's what's so warm about the end of this series but [TS]

  now we learned no they didn't it was just another battle another bloody star [TS]

  planet blowing up things gets bill yet again they've got a jump in their ex [TS]

  wings and shooting in its magic belly button where you can blow it up is this [TS]

  just gonna happen for all of eternity blow-up blah podesta build another one [TS]

  block and esta build another one to borrow a phrase from other franchise all [TS]

  of this has happened before and all of this will happen again that that that is [TS]

  a little bit that feeling but that's also why as we mentioned before I [TS]

  actually do find the absence of the macro it's a bit of a problem for this [TS]

  movie because it does feel like what happened after that that ending in Jedi [TS]

  in now what government is going on I really do think that that is a bit of a [TS]

  missing connecting piece and I am I am fine and expect the notion that there is [TS]

  continued adversity in the future but there is there is a disconnect between [TS]

  what happened then and and what happened now why is laying in this resistance as [TS]

  opposed to the other government that that for me is the problem I can [TS]

  understand what you're saying that you feel like you have been robbed of the [TS]

  happy ending from the from the end of the movie but I i don't i don't [TS]

  necessarily have to have that same feeling I don't get me wrong I can and I [TS]

  would rather have the force awakens than nothing because you know we straying [TS]

  into Godfather three territory here do you know I've never seen any of the [TS]

  godfather [TS]

  ok let's do that another time cuz I'd love cause I didn't watch The Godfather [TS]

  movies for a very long time and then when I finally did I was like oh my god [TS]

  what did I do this years ago so maybe that's a maybe that's an assignment for [TS]

  another day but that the future show would do that the night we do a chick [TS]

  flick slumber parish [TS]

  anyway so I mean you know the Godfather three famously is this third movie that [TS]

  a lot of people which wasn't mad cause the first two are so perfect and yes [TS]

  even I have ever seen the Godfather movies I know that this is the [TS]

  reputation of God yeah but you know I think he's still a really good film and [TS]

  kind of [TS]

  would I rather have a third film just say there's another one I can wash or [TS]

  would I prefer they never touched this sacred cow of the first two films and [TS]

  maybe that's the case here but I think after the prequels are made for [TS]

  selection was almost needed to sort of to save face to cleanse the womb but [TS]

  would it be better [TS]

  would it be better if we could go back in time that we just had those first [TS]

  three Star Wars films made and nothing else no prequels not even all the other [TS]

  ancillary stuff would have been nice untouched little nostalgic perfect thing [TS]

  and the more interesting question if you ask yes would you rather have the [TS]

  original three and nothing else I mean obviously if you could erase the [TS]

  prequels from existing you would but is the prequels [TS]

  paying the price of the prequels is that worth it to get what is coming in the [TS]

  future [TS]

  well that that depends on what the rest of the movies look like yeah I'm an idea [TS]

  I guess I guess we can only sit and watch those first three films so many [TS]

  times but with many many times over the course of life [TS]

  can I say what do you think of the name stop killer for that thing is that what [TS]

  they actually called it's called stock color isn't there to use it once and I [TS]

  think they deliberately use it once they realize I mean Luke Skywalker was [TS]

  originally gonna be cold Luke stocker wasn't he in the first script so I think [TS]

  it's also nice to be a little not too late maybe but but I think it's [TS]

  beautiful I'm now and I do have problems with that weapon I don't have problems [TS]

  with the big bad weapon that name is literally a description of what the [TS]

  weapon does since it sucks up a son and shoot out other planets I know times [TS]

  change and I know this is thirty years later but there have been some [TS]

  incredible advances in technology that we were made privy to the original star [TS]

  was if they can now if they can first convert a planet into a weapon and then [TS]

  a weapon that's capable of setting up a start shooting at I mean this is [TS]

  sounding a lot more Star Trek and Star Wars yeah that's a good that's a good [TS]

  point there's something about that weapon that is very Star Trek ceiling [TS]

  and it it it don't have the resources in the technology does be like in the next [TS]

  movie is is this scrappy scrappy first order going to be building Dyson Sphere [TS]

  yeah yeah I use his perpetual motion lights it was implausible weapon as this [TS]

  upping the ante and and they do have that one shot which is the literal the [TS]

  literal upping the ante when the doing the debriefing I mean there's this move [TS]

  that movies do which is always remarkably effective but I'm still is [TS]

  aware when they do where you have the characters call out something that's [TS]

  happening in the movie to make it less implausible and somehow when the [TS]

  characters acknowledged it you just much more willing to let it go [TS]

  someone like always another death star and they go oh no look the Death Star [TS]

  was this big London double-decker buses on top of each other to [TS]

  infographic moment and and the most the most calling out of luck we know exactly [TS]

  what we're doing is when Han Solo has to say is there a way to blow it up there's [TS]

  always a way to blow it up [TS]

  and it does it does like a city does kinda work in movies when they do that [TS]

  but it is also an acknowledgement of like we know exactly what we're doing [TS]

  that we have to tell you that the Death Star it's it's a bigger and I wonder if [TS]

  there's a way to blow it up there always is that the other night the other great [TS]

  line that has that kind of steps out of the movie for a second and winks the [TS]

  movie but was so good was when vince says he was going to do something to get [TS]

  it used the force and head so that's not have the force works that was a good [TS]

  yeah that works really well it worked really well give you the first there is [TS]

  no one knows what the forces but it definitely doesn't work like that so you [TS]

  didn't know Han Solo was going to die I did not see at what point did you [TS]

  realize it was about to happen and how did you feel when I happen cause I [TS]

  missed out this gas moment ok well here's the problem even though I wasn't [TS]

  spoiled there are things that happen in movies that Telegraph so clearly what is [TS]

  going to happen [TS]

  yeah I mean that clearly had that and when they're there this is again is one [TS]

  of these cases of exposition irritating the crap outta me and exposition kind of [TS]

  ruining something that's coming up which is when we are talking about planting [TS]

  all the detonators and you know the place they have to blow up so the whole [TS]

  thing blows up the place of no guardrails yeah they are going to paint [TS]

  these detonators and his two things that immediately happens which is one con [TS]

  suggest a plan she makes a sound and Han says oh that's much better I'll go down [TS]

  there you go up there is little warning sign number one in your brain that [TS]

  they're drawing attention to things might have gone a different way but [TS]

  they're not going to be there's no reason for that to happen in scraps [TS]

  but the real thing which is just ok is that high and then has to say too chewy [TS]

  here you take the detonator and it just bothers me because we've already [TS]

  established earlier in the movie on so literally says my friend has a bag full [TS]

  of explosives why don't we [TS]

  that I would presume that she has the detonator but as soon as you're drawing [TS]

  attention to someone having the detonator at that moment was like ok so [TS]

  there was going to die within the next three minutes you just know it's going [TS]

  to happen you just know what's going to happen and then when Finn enraged [TS]

  arrived at the convenient point at the viewing window to watch everything [TS]

  unfolded at New Hope mirror you know where everyone arrives at the one place [TS]

  just in time to watch out here I get lightsaber exactly so I don't I don't [TS]

  mind if in and rain arriving at the balcony viewing and I don't mind the [TS]

  dramatic no guardrails ladder empty space like man they have the worst [TS]

  health and safety standards at all these Empire basis I don't mind that because [TS]

  it's it's setting things up its fine but the little line about the detonator just [TS]

  irritates me more because is there anybody in the world who would have been [TS]

  super confused when she ran out and took out a little thing and press the button [TS]

  and it exploded [TS]

  is there anybody who would have gone how did he make that explain where did the [TS]

  10 metre come from Nike has the bags full of explosives I presume the [TS]

  detonator is in there why movie do you have to draw attention to this in such a [TS]

  way that so clearly Telegraph's what's coming up on the figures could have been [TS]

  on a time as well for goodness sake no one cares [TS]

  blows up yeah it doesn't matter that that's another way of doing it just have [TS]

  it be on a timer [TS]

  side note here I absolutely love that they use the same little sound effect [TS]

  for the bombs that was in the original movies like there was a lot of little [TS]

  details with the sound work on this movie that I just loved and there was [TS]

  some bombs in the original trilogy is in the clearly went back and got the exact [TS]

  same sound effect use for these bombs of the little charging up or you know when [TS]

  they press the button to get it ready so I did you know someone cared making this [TS]

  movie I like that then for goodness sake great can I just take issue with one [TS]

  would you keep using then and I know you're using it correctly and I'm [TS]

  probably not you keep talking about competent and competence [TS]

  I think if you say someone had a competent job you're saying they did [TS]

  enough I think the people that made this film will be on competent I think they [TS]

  were very good at making films yeah yeah yeah the reason I keep using competence [TS]

  is because I'm really comparing it with someone who was quite incompetent that's [TS]

  that's why I'm phrase I'm not saying that they hit only competence you know [TS]

  they they weren't complicate the competence is if you have to fill up a [TS]

  glass to get to excellent right they did a great job and then by definition the [TS]

  glass has to be filled up to at least competence [TS]

  else didn't didn't hit that mark the guy that invented all the meadow possible [TS]

  basically yeah exactly so even knowing it's clearly Telegraph's Han Solo is [TS]

  going today and also I mean you can if you know anything about the background [TS]

  Star Wars you know that Harrison Ford is kind of a grumpy guy who was weirdly [TS]

  accidentally a famous actor and seems really grumpy about the whole thing and [TS]

  who also had some arguments with George Lucas about whether or not Han Solo [TS]

  should die in Return of the Jedi that he was very strong on the opinion that Han [TS]

  Solo should die at the end of that movie so it it feels like Harrison Ford [TS]

  definitely once to test out in a dramatic way if you possibly can lead it [TS]

  was his previous goals so it's not surprising that he dies in this movie at [TS]

  that scene was really well done and another emotional point I thought there [TS]

  was a real little of real little gut punch is when he calls out then to get [TS]

  his son's attention that is exactly the kind of thing that might seem like an [TS]

  inconsequential spoiler if you knew it ahead of time but in the context of that [TS]

  seemed to me that is actually the important review of this is like ok I [TS]

  know hun solo is going to die here but that that extra kick in the gut of they [TS]

  named their son Ben that that ads like this emotional emotional piece to do [TS]

  that seems I thought that was that was a really nice way of adding something to [TS]

  that then seeing that you know is going to play out in a certain way [TS]

  how did you how did you feel about that scene yeah I had a much bigger part in [TS]

  the film than I ever expected [TS]

  yeah me too I was very surprised at that yeah they they certainly got their their [TS]

  pound of flesh out of him before they they did away with him you know [TS]

  obviously the opposite of luke hasn't hasn't earned his wages yellow thing I [TS]

  was actually wondering because in in the unions in hollywood unions the teaching [TS]

  very differently if you're someone who has spoken line of dialogue if you're [TS]

  not or if you're not I was kind of wondering about that about Mark Hamill [TS]

  ago he doesn't say a single word I wanted to get people it's because I'm [TS]

  hoping he'll have something to do in the next film but yeah I was was a ride with [TS]

  him tying I kind of I'm not I say why we've got the old actors back and I hope [TS]

  they do something also with Luke Skywalker but I have to say the return [TS]

  of all these out characters has left me a bit colder than I thought it would [TS]

  come and say 3 p.m. I think I could have done without him all he did was annoying [TS]

  me and get him out of there you know and I've got this radar now set to sell more [TS]

  toys I can only assume that new toys but but it's funny you mention that because [TS]

  the C three be 0 appearance with wen Han and Leia meet again for the first time [TS]

  presumably after years of estrangement and then C three be 0 pops into camera I [TS]

  have to admit that kinda helluva laugh at me because I expected and I did not [TS]

  know that c3po was in the movie like I had no idea just as a light note here I [TS]

  went to the theater without ever having even seen the poster for the movie which [TS]

  I was really glad because the poster actually gives away and so for me [TS]

  watching it knowing nothing like the CCPO showing up was quite a surprise and [TS]

  could not have been done in a better way I can just thought it fit just perfectly [TS]

  with his character is famous for stopping them kissing isn't even things [TS]

  like that I I like that it just worked out I kind of like the Red Army this [TS]

  this notion that [TS]

  he is both really vein and also doesn't understand the way humans perceive him [TS]

  that he thinks he looks completely different with this with this red arm [TS]

  but I also agree that there there was a little bit of a feeling for me was 33 P [TS]

  O and r2d2 of do we need to we do we need these characters back I'm not a [TS]

  hundred percent sure that we really we really do I'm sort of thinking on the [TS]

  fly here but it might be a mock wrap up here I'd maybe the problem I had with C [TS]

  three period being in this field is he is now tired by the prequels so he's [TS]

  parties part of those so bringing him into this is a bit like unless he does [TS]

  so many stupid things in those prequels like so many scenes that we won't even [TS]

  talk about that it's a bit like Jar Jar Binks appearing it's a bit like having [TS]

  memories of you know wrong heads on robots and bad puns and I'm thinking [TS]

  about you know you're giving me flashbacks and not to the good films are [TS]

  giving me flashbacks to the bad films so maybe it's that I feel like I feel like [TS]

  it added it added little and you know and he's not like important he's not [TS]

  important like so low and Luke Skywalker you let your your musical legends is [TS]

  Luke Skywalker it's not like it's not like people thirty years later going oh [TS]

  my goodness it's the amazing see 3 p.m. who'd helped with some translation so [TS]

  yeah yeah I I see what you mean I do I get why is there not a big deal but it's [TS]

  not a big deal because he's he's not a big character but I did have this little [TS]

  bit of a feeling when it's actually are DDT was a really problematic character [TS]

  in this movie but did feel when r2d2 wakes up and he has the rest of the map [TS]

  for some reason it's it's a bit weird the dialog that happens there is that ok [TS]

  r2d2 has the rest the map along with this but it is that there is a feeling [TS]

  like ok we have three drugs now 100% sure [TS]

  and and this feeling of I like you was surprised how much of a role on and lay [TS]

  ahead in this movie because my presumption was they were going to have [TS]

  a relatively minimal role and be handing over Star Wars to this next generation [TS]

  of characters and I never really thought about CBO and r2d2 was being in the in [TS]

  the subsequent movies and it looks like he's going to play some role in the [TS]

  future of movie and obviously Luke is going to play some role in the future [TS]

  movie and it begins to feel a bit like an ensemble cast of ok we have Leia and [TS]

  we have Luke and we have r2d2 and we have seen 3 p.m. he feels a little bit [TS]

  crowded like this I want more space for new characters like let's let's do new [TS]

  things and I understand like BBA is very much and r2d2 new generation thing but [TS]

  it's maybe that's why there's this feeling of how do we need our duty to [TS]

  end BB 8900 you know I agree I mean I'm not too worried about the i mean [TS]

  obviously look is gonna be this sage Ben Kenobi so I'm happy with him continuing [TS]

  through the ages and Hensarling it basically does his hand over in this [TS]

  film doesn't and I can imagine life is gonna probably be maybe just be some [TS]

  non-action bureaucratic you know muscle type character who's just you know it's [TS]

  a basin gives lectures so I don't think she's going to be a plug stuff up and [TS]

  things like that so I'm not too worried with the integration of the humans but I [TS]

  just feel like a safe appear just gets on my nerves now it's it's totally okay [TS]

  because perhaps my favorite line of the movie not because of because of its [TS]

  delivery not because of how entertaining it is not because of anything that the [TS]

  line actually conveys except what it the director is expressed explicitly telling [TS]

  you is when the new general and Kyler and are having this little argument over [TS]

  the storm troopers and [TS]

  and ran says maybe we should be using clone troopers instead of these these [TS]

  regular army guys and the general is irritated he says oh no my my soldiers [TS]

  are supremely well trained and we don't need a clone army to me that line is [TS]

  like jay jay abrams looking directly at the audience and saying you know all [TS]

  that stuff with the prequels forget it doesn't exist in this universe we don't [TS]

  have clone troopers like none of that really really connects as I would be [TS]

  shocked if anything to jeopardize has a real connection to anything that happens [TS]

  in the prequels to feel like like that line really just closes the door and on [TS]

  one side of of that door there's the original trilogy is and there's jeje [TS]

  Abrams movie and on the other side of the door [TS]

  out in the cold or the prequels and this movie is making that really official I [TS]

  just love that they took their time dad and his line which makes no sense to [TS]

  almost anybody who isn't a pretty big star Wars fan but they took the time to [TS]

  have this little disagreement be like yeah there's no clone troopers you know [TS]

  the whole thing that the prequels were about that they focused around yet we're [TS]

  just doing all of that I mean I read that line differently in a few different [TS]

  ways that I say that meeting as well how did you read originally though [TS]

  well obviously thought it was being used to show there's an antagonism between [TS]

  the two characters cause it's one of the first times we say that they are on the [TS]

  same page as general as a general I think his name is not on the same page I [TS]

  can also see it serving the purpose cause obviously those pic was credits so [TS]

  much confusion as to the status of Stormtroopers phones are other humans so [TS]

  I think the point was to say whatever you thought about the middle trilogy [TS]

  about the status of Stormtroopers are they still closed have been humanize [TS]

  whatever you thought this is what they are now the humans said don't be [TS]

  confused about why Finn is a stormtrooper it doesn't look just like [TS]

  the boba Fett [TS]

  everything's alright relax I doesn't have a New Zealand accent you know he's [TS]

  fine I thought it was more conscious dealing with a few possible points of [TS]

  confusion and also I thought they setting up something for the future they [TS]

  setting up something about clowns coming later but in hindsight I think there I [TS]

  would I would be shocked if they ever bring the clothes back that's that's [TS]

  running outline is delivering but I also agree that began as a minor point I [TS]

  think it's really well done to show that the general and Kyler and are they are [TS]

  on the same sort of level again it's it's it's very new hopi in that Darth [TS]

  Darth Vader in that is part of this whole establishments but he's in charge [TS]

  of it he's just another guy is working with the Emperor and I like this this [TS]

  movie does the same kind of thing was like I love when you get this feeling [TS]

  that he is working alongside the military but is partially out side of it [TS]

  but neither of the two of them have direct command over the others like they [TS]

  are each in charge of a different thing each working for forgot his name with [TS]

  the new major said Lord [TS]

  The Wizard of Oz something like that I S [TS]

  speaking of this general Hawks I thought that was unless something's gonna change [TS]

  which probably will I thought that was a bad piece of casting I like that actor I [TS]

  like jim DeMint other stuff I thought he was the wrong man for the road and maybe [TS]

  the bros gonna change and you become he's gonna grow into NBC to tonight but [TS]

  at the moment I felt like he looks more like the work experience kid than the [TS]

  person who would be in charge of all do you think you look too young I think it [TS]

  looks too young and he just doesn't have an authority about him that like you [TS]

  know grandmas and people that had he has been hard to beat that guy was awesome [TS]

  yeah there's peter cushing but I think this guy doesn't doesn't have thought [TS]

  and Dom Dom whole Gleason I think it might be I'm sure is is the actor and I [TS]

  think [TS]

  I didn't get up I like him as an actor when I heard he was in the film I saw [TS]

  great he's co-director I'm sure he'll be really good but the road just seemed [TS]

  incongruous to me that he had there and I thought that was my thought that was [TS]

  amiss but maybe he's gonna something's gonna happen to him later his character [TS]

  will go on a different journey that be more suited to the actors skill set but [TS]

  at the moment I think they should have had someone with a bit more authority [TS]

  inexperienced about ya see from me I think he worked I was worried when he [TS]

  showed up because I have I have seen him mostly in an episode of black mirror of [TS]

  course and I have seen him as the male lead in a couple of chick flicks and [TS]

  he's a striking looking person you know it's him right away and but in all of [TS]

  his roles I have found him to be a very good actor but when he did show up in [TS]

  this movie my feeling was oh it's like i I was eventually sold on him in this [TS]

  role as this character and the feeling that I have is that ok yes he's a little [TS]

  young but maybe he is just extremely competent at what he is doing and when [TS]

  he does his big speech to the to the soldiers which was a little weird say if [TS]

  you ask me but when he does that he said was a bit independence and he supposed [TS]

  to be given that stirring stirring speech that this sort of big moment to [TS]

  kick off this finale just into didn't do anything for me I'm like I'm not feeling [TS]

  that you don't have you wouldn't you wouldn't you wouldn't come on me you [TS]

  don't have the charisma for that you know didn't work but maybe maybe I was [TS]

  having a sip of my coke at the time and not paying enough attention this is the [TS]

  thing without ever everybody reacts differently to different characters that [TS]

  I think I think he was fine until I was wearing when he showed up I think he did [TS]

  ok where r is again as we've said many times the beginning please rate the [TS]

  nominal job and I don't think Finn was the [TS]

  know we had some clunky lines and the other character who like the pilot guy [TS]

  we're super sold on him and this is something about this but I was [TS]

  disappointed when the pilot showed back up later in the movie I think that he [TS]

  should have died in the TIE fighter crash at the beginning I think that is a [TS]

  much stronger start to the movie that you have this character they've built [TS]

  him up to be a kind of smart ass kind of guy they've given him a little bit of [TS]

  characterization and then he dies [TS]

  passing on this mission to fit in and to bring him back later just feels it just [TS]

  feels cheap and I don't think he was struck me some amazing actor I wasn't so [TS]

  great this guy is is back I wasn't really in love with his character and so [TS]

  I was I was disappointed at the scene where you're supposed to be like oh boy [TS]

  that amazing pilot is back [TS]

  ok I'm not entirely convinced his parentage won't be of some interest in [TS]

  the subsequent films the pilots parentage [TS]

  everybody's parentage is in question in the Star Wars yeah that's why I think I [TS]

  think he you know he says they keep emphasizing the heat abnormally good [TS]

  pilot and there are only two people I know who are really good powerless in [TS]

  the Star Wars universe yea and they're both pretty important characters so I [TS]

  dunno I think I think you know you're right it would have been it would've [TS]

  been cool if it does really quickly but I don't think I think we might have had [TS]

  a little girl action on the side there could be a few things that could they [TS]

  and so yeah I'm not sure I'm not sure where he's going because he's like he [TS]

  seems to be amake ekta for the film and yet he didn't really do much in this [TS]

  film yeah he's obviously one of the three characters that are going to be [TS]

  going on for the rest of the movies and he is one of those three and then my [TS]

  feelings [TS]

  and he hasn't he hasn't earned his place in that three so that makes me think [TS]

  there's something more to him yet he hasn't earned his place and and also the [TS]

  guy please finish up a few of his line deliveries were just not super great he [TS]

  just the sounds really stupid BC quite short guy much of it doesn't seem to [TS]

  have much of a presence that when he first came walking down the ramp up when [TS]

  you go to be shipping he appeared and that when he can I was a bit like he's [TS]

  sort of Lex Lex he lacks the physical presence of his kind of cop sureness [TS]

  yeah the thing that's kind of reminded me is in Star Trek Voyager in the first [TS]

  couple of episodes they try very hard to establish that their pilots is a similar [TS]

  kind of thing that their pilot is an amazing pilots and he's this rebel guy [TS]

  and they pulled him out of a prison due to have him do this special mission for [TS]

  Star Trek Voyager and all of the characters are constantly talking about [TS]

  how he is just like this badass pilots and the actor it just does not have that [TS]

  characteristic he looks like he should be wearing a white sweater tied around [TS]

  his neck and a pink color church just he just looks like a really crappy [TS]

  upper-middle-class kind of guy yeah and and no matter how much you have [TS]

  characters trying to tell me the Tampere is like some badass imprisoned was an [TS]

  amazing pilot he just isn't and I totally agree with you that this this [TS]

  pilot character whose name I don't even know this is kinda wanted to die in the [TS]

  beginning is it that he does not he doesn't have that kind of on-screen [TS]

  presence I talks the talk and I think he's kinda like his face in his hands [TS]

  unlikely swagger but he just seems like a small it just seems like there's not [TS]

  much of him he said I could be wrong I mean I agree about Tom Paris is always [TS]

  supposed to be this action hero [TS]

  and he always looks like a new look to be unseated in a but exactly but I don't [TS]

  think I don't think this new character whatever is going to forget it suffers [TS]

  from that kind of power responsiveness it's more a kind of I'm not saying its [TS]

  responsiveness which is great but it's it's a similar kind of a lack of this [TS]

  feeling of how you feel like a guy who could be an amazing pilot and but you're [TS]

  a mean they do keep emphasizing it and another of these kinds of dialogue that [TS]

  I didn't like it either end is is torturing him he says I had no idea we [TS]

  had the best pilot in the resistance on board [TS]

  why do you have to say that would anybody in real life say that I don't [TS]

  think there and it was written in text for us which is which is which is also [TS]

  but the fact they emphasized so much as were also made me think like also I [TS]

  thinking I was he like the son of hand side alone or is he the son of Luke [TS]

  Skywalker oh yes oh well I'm sure we'll be seeing much more of him but I always [TS]

  with his wish that movies are neither did make a decision either you kill [TS]

  characters or you don't [TS]

  but the thing that I hate the most is the death faked out of characters and [TS]

  that you know it always feels to me like you just rob you earlier scenes of of [TS]

  any importance and it's become such a trip now to that mean did anyone [TS]

  actually think he was dead surely not like it was a bit silly it would have [TS]

  been a big twist if he was dead cuz it was Jay Jay Abramson jim says some [TS]

  interesting things in movies sometimes I was actually running under the [TS]

  assumption that he was dead and I thought wow what a relief but it might [TS]

  have also just been some wishful thinking [TS]

  you got you got double faced when he appeared back on screen great was the [TS]

  only person the cinema [TS]

  i mean i think is there is something really unremarkable about him because [TS]

  even when they showed him in the in the X-wing when he flies back on I didn't [TS]

  twig that it was him until fin delivers again that line like boy that guy sure [TS]

  is an amazing pilot if I can see it I can see it on the screen you don't need [TS]

  to tell me this speaking of breaking the laws of physics by the way when they [TS]

  show human beings doing like maneuvers that would require reflexes and things [TS]

  beyond what human can do like some of those little barrel rolls and tens I do [TS]

  have problems with that to like it seems like a nice human like that would tear [TS]

  human's body to pieces some of those turns and maneuvers that were being down [TS]

  yet alone whether they have the actual cognitive ability to be thinking that [TS]

  fast anyway this is always think it's it's it's how how far can they push [TS]

  things before you feel like it's too far with it with some of the some of the [TS]

  next week I didn't really think about that too much I just there is something [TS]

  great about X-wing TIE Fighter fights it's just that it's a it's a pleasure to [TS]

  watch again I love all the sound work on the TIE fighters they just have such a [TS]

  particular sound that I love so one other thing I want to mention was just [TS]

  thinking about this movie forrest was thinking about the dreaded prequels one [TS]

  of the things I was really aware of watching this is in some of the opening [TS]

  establishing sequence of this movie with rain her life and then on the desert [TS]

  planet [TS]

  CGI animals in the background that I couldn't help but notice because that of [TS]

  course is one of the great scenes of the remade version of the prequels of just [TS]

  like crap in the background just everywhere and i'm looking at the CGI [TS]

  animals in the background of this movie and game just appreciating what a well [TS]

  done movie can do because I was looking at them out [TS]

  why don't these animals bother me and the answer is they're all there for a [TS]

  reason and so the very first background animal that we see is in that silent [TS]

  establishing sequence for Ray when she gets she's done with her scavenging she [TS]

  gets back to town and she's pulling behind her on this led this little load [TS]

  of stuff that she has scavenged and coming in the opposite direction is a [TS]

  CGI animal pulling a way bigger load of scavenged stuff and this to me is it a [TS]

  great example of that animal adds to the scene like a comment on her life that [TS]

  she is there as a kind of beasts of burden doing this very manual labor and [TS]

  this animal that is going in the opposite direction is at that moment [TS]

  doing her job better than her because she's she's only able to carry so much [TS]

  and it is carrying this enormous amount of stuff like that that just that one [TS]

  little shot is the perfect example of how to add stuff that is atmospheric [TS]

  without being distracting that animal has a reason to be in that scene it's [TS]

  not just oh I wanna make this place look really busy an Alien and Aliens [TS]

  everywhere baby animals everywhere [TS]

  adding nothing doing distracting stuff sneezing when main characters are [TS]

  walking into buildings it was it was just great and then the other the other [TS]

  big CGI animals which is a very close to being George Lucas e but not quite with [TS]

  the gigantic elephant thing that's drinking from the water but but even [TS]

  that animal it's ok you can argue that it doesn't need to be there but it's [TS]

  still add something to the scene because it provides a good reason why then is so [TS]

  desperately thirsty that he's drinking the water hits obviously disgusting [TS]

  because there's big giant disgusting creatures also drinking from it and then [TS]

  it's the motion of that creature that distracts him for a moment so he sees [TS]

  this this by taking place between ray and some other scavengers and said they [TS]

  had to be just a just a great example of you want to have stuff in your [TS]

  movie to show that it's an alien place that's great but it works when they are [TS]

  doing things when they have a reason to be in the scenes just too many draws it [TS]

  a tremendous example of the difference between like what george lucas does and [TS]

  what a competent to do it was competence at its very best and even just any other [TS]

  other very minor thing but just I love that in in those desert scenes the actor [TS]

  playing Finn is sweaty [TS]

  know why because they're really in a desert that he's really hot actually [TS]

  somewhere you know they're not on a on a green screen they her filming out in the [TS]

  desert in Abu Dhabi or someplace just it's a little thing like that just makes [TS]

  it so real like this guy actually has sweat on his face because he is a really [TS]

  hot wherever he is standing like thank you change abrams for building sets and [TS]

  taking people places and and making it feel very real I mean the desert sayings [TS]

  by far and away the highlight of the film for me or that the star of the film [TS]

  along with the lightsaber in the snow in terms of visuals but that but the desert [TS]

  not only is visually the most appealing part but it's also just the most [TS]

  engaging powerful film like it was it was the highlight of the film a film [TS]

  that I like all the bits of that was that was by far and away the best part [TS]

  of the film for me let me ask about the end of the film so first of all there's [TS]

  a question would they just send rate to go and make it look skywalker the person [TS]

  they've been [TS]

  everyone has been looking for for the last thirty years and they finally find [TS]

  out where he is and they send the skills they've just met well you know chilis [TS]

  with it I mean I understand maybe they want to keep a low profile but would you [TS]

  not send like your best pilot or it doesn't it doesn't seem low profile when [TS]

  you have everybody in the base cheering her on as she leaves him presumably [TS]

  they're all cheering her on because they know where she's going she said that but [TS]

  let's leave that to one side I mean I'm glad they sent over a decision what do [TS]

  you think of that the end the final say no [TS]

  we finally see Luke Skywalker and she holds out that lightsaber and I think [TS]

  the movie should have ended three minutes earlier with her taking off and [TS]

  flying in into space to go finally at the end of the end of empire [TS]

  the pacing of the movie aside from the monster seen in never really felt slow [TS]

  to me it never felt like ok slow down for a moment even when the scenes [TS]

  themselves were slow the movie the peace always felt appropriate but that was the [TS]

  only time where I felt a little antsy all of a sudden my seat is movie over [TS]

  we're done right she's gonna go often and find the Skywalker ok that's great [TS]

  felt like such a natural end to me that I was thinking I was going to say look [TS]

  skywalker because there's such a good time to end and we haven't seen him so [TS]

  obviously we're not going to say and then they like tagged arm ok we gotta [TS]

  show you this is this is another example of where knowing anything is a bit of a [TS]

  spoiler because even have a watch the first trailer my brain is always doing [TS]

  the thing that I do when watches movies we're just taking off all of the scenes [TS]

  like we haven't seen X wings flying across the water yet oh they're standing [TS]

  at a place where there's a big lake I guess this is where the ex wings are [TS]

  coming in just tick tick tick tick tick and simply knowing that Mark Hamill was [TS]

  in this movie is a bit of the movie should obviously and here but I know [TS]

  that it isn't going to end it it really feels to me like why do they have this [TS]

  scene I think they have this scene so that Mark Hamill is involved in this [TS]

  movie I think this this scene is here for reasons other than the pure [TS]

  movie-making up it would have been a great bait and switch and they could [TS]

  have argued he was in it because of his flashbacks exactly exactly I think they [TS]

  easily be easily could have done that I just I dunno I really feel like that [TS]

  scene was there because they wanted to have mark hamill involved in this [TS]

  production and it was not there because it was the best way to end this movie [TS]

  yeah I think you're probably right [TS]

  that aside like once we accept ik they gonna do it I have to say I was not a [TS]

  big fan of the final shot this sort of big aerial shot of the helicopter going [TS]

  around the pinnacle showing the two of them it was the perhaps the one camera [TS]

  shot in the whole film that didn't feel like a Star Wars movie yeah I agree it [TS]

  felt like a BBC TV documentary with someone's doing a documentary about the [TS]

  island and they should have this big shot with a presenter goes and here you [TS]

  can see older coast that has been here and let it fail and was obviously in a [TS]

  helicopter and it just didn't it didn't belong and I think the one of the [TS]

  reasons this film feel so much like a Star Wars film is that change abrams [TS]

  restrained himself and like although there is so much more creative with the [TS]

  cameras then Lucas was he didn't go overboard like it's not quite as friends [TS]

  because even the new Star Trek movies and other things it like it it did [TS]

  retain an old-fashioned feel the camera moved a lot more than like in films that [TS]

  was kind of a deliberate sort of space opera decision to say let's be a little [TS]

  bit about school and traditions and there was no shot that was the [TS]

  equivalent in star track of where Kirk realizes they are working into it [TS]

  a trap and he runs through an enormous sets doing a whole bunch of stuff and [TS]

  the cameraman is running behind him [TS]

  yeah that that is a very JJA abrams feeling shots and has a moment from that [TS]

  movie and they don't do that kind of camera motion anywhere in this and you [TS]

  might be right that might be one of the reasons why does feel more Star Wars II [TS]

  but yes that that's swirling camera shot at the end it did seem a little bit out [TS]

  of place and I'll tell you having watched it twice the first time I saw [TS]

  that scene it did feel a little bit like i mean that that whole scene where she [TS]

  she's climbing up the stairs in Ireland and going to find Mark Hamill the first [TS]

  time watching it it felt a little long as I obviously should have ended the [TS]

  movie 2 minutes ago by the Hon tell you on the second watch through that is [TS]

  going to be the part of the movie that just each of the worst because it feels [TS]

  for ever on a second watch through and he do more cuts back and forth between [TS]

  Mark Hamill and her looking at each other silently as she hold out that [TS]

  lightsaber then you realize the first time you watch that movie it is way too [TS]

  long if your gonna do that scene it even has to be half as long as it already is [TS]

  it also felt a bit cheap which is an amazing cause I'm sure cost a bomb to [TS]

  make but it just felt like a felt it felt like it was shot on a video camera [TS]

  after they finish making the main film and I sent it they said some guy in the [TS]

  video camera and in a helicopter and they didn't care for the Steadicam and [TS]

  it it it's in congress and it's a bit weird at the end of these are weird [TS]

  taste in your mouth is still a great film and everything but we still [TS]

  definitely enjoyed about it that feels totally like the kind of thing that the [TS]

  next movie could take care of imaginatively cut it when she flies off [TS]

  into outer space [TS]

  the next movie it picks up it does the scene and opening shots of a planet in a [TS]

  spaceship in there and they kick off with some exciting thing if after that [TS]

  point they cut to Ray being trained by Luke Skywalker somewhere in beautiful [TS]

  Ireland is there anyone who's going to be confused is there anyone is going to [TS]

  think how did that happen it's obvious she found him and she's being trained [TS]

  now and who the hell cares about the exact moment they met you could cut that [TS]

  whole thing you don't even need to do it in the second one a dramatic start to [TS]

  the next film that the camera pans down to the two luk planner and the first [TS]

  ship we say is the Millennium Falcon arriving at the planner [TS]

  there many ways that you could do it and I just don't think you even need to show [TS]

  this meeting happening so explicitly and that's why I just it really feel they do [TS]

  some kind of hollywood political reason that this scene is there I can't imagine [TS]

  anybody actually think that's the best way to end the movie because it's so [TS]

  obvious that it should end with her going off into space it's such a natural [TS]

  ending the other thing I want to talk about it if you would care to do this I [TS]

  don't think [TS]

  Council spoilers but do you have any kind of what will happen next thoughts [TS]

  now like what what's going to happen why I mean it's impossible to know maybe [TS]

  they don't even know for sure but what you think will happen next what you'd [TS]

  like to see happen next is reagan a baby looks daughter if she hadn't layers [TS]

  daughter and the brother of the sister of car they ran did note you can do I [TS]

  will be avoiding spoilers to the next movie obviously but I'm also totally [TS]

  happy to speculate that this is speculating without knowledge is [TS]

  perfectly fine and I am vaguely operating under the assumption that the [TS]

  most likely thing is that yes she she is the daughter of Hon and later like that [TS]

  seems she's somebody's daughter right of importance there's there's not a reason [TS]

  that they wouldn't mention it [TS]

  yep and it's just there just seems like the likely case you know she's for [TS]

  sensitive so it's either luk luk at a bit of an adventure or she is a mother [TS]

  daughter and I believe in the extended universities that it is that that Luke [TS]

  and Leia have a set of twins don't think their solution I had to end had twins [TS]

  and they did they did yes and I'm pretty sure that the the Knights of ran that [TS]

  the reference they make a movie is from the extended universe but the movie [TS]

  seems to lean in that way to make you think this [TS]

  that probably the better decision is to make her Luke's child in but that's what [TS]

  the movies leaning towards I think if you're a Dumbo you'd be thinking that [TS]

  she's links daughter has been waiting for Luke to come back I think the [TS]

  hardened liar is the less obvious option which ironically that makes it more [TS]

  obvious yeah but I lorraine has that line we explicitly says to her oh you [TS]

  feel that that Han Solo is the father that you've never had [TS]

  maybe that's the reason why that line is because it's actually that she's lose [TS]

  the days like she's somebody's daughter its star wars the people going to be [TS]

  related this is a family everybody everybody everybody somebody's daughter [TS]

  have a minor guess which was put on the record now what's his name again the [TS]

  boss of kind of something the wizard of oz [TS]

  visit of US snoek I really I I really liked in his first appearance the [TS]

  holograph figure out thing where they talking to him and he's huge and then [TS]

  you realize how it's a hologram my prediction here is that in person he's [TS]

  actually quite small and that he's basically that's almost a certainty that [TS]

  has to be it has to be he's not going to be a normal sized duties going to have [TS]

  to be a teeny tiny dude let's let the boat is prediction graders let me say I [TS]

  predict what's gonna be lifesavers in the next few bold prediction I'm just [TS]

  getting it on record is this is my speculation is confident gonna go [TS]

  through the obvious redemption is it gonna be done at all over again where he [TS]

  liked comes to the good writeup the end seems like could they would they have [TS]

  the audacity to do that to be so obvious I hope not I think it the story [TS]

  indicates that he won't because I think having him kill his father is quite a [TS]

  thing to do on camera [TS]

  the flip side of this the thing that slightly annoyed me is the whole pin [TS]

  leaves the battle and it's his first battle ever and he's never killed [TS]

  anybody that makes him it makes him too much like this shiny new minted penny [TS]

  that landed on the battlefield I decided I want out of this later on in the [TS]

  movies although idk I hate when I was like what what what were you doing as [TS]

  far as I can tell you a guy he went through training and then bugged out on [TS]

  the first opportunity that you didn't actually do anything [TS]

  yeah but deserted from the evil empire but I think it makes his character a [TS]

  little bit too squeaky clean but then this makes him go he is a good guy in [TS]

  this universe because he's never killed anybody was much more interesting [TS]

  character would be someone who has woken up from his programming over time and [TS]

  and lessen the genuinely did bad things so if if that is the backstory they've [TS]

  established for a good guy like we want him to be universally good and to be [TS]

  entirely unblemished my feeling is that the reverse of that that having Kyler [TS]

  and actually kill his father it makes him one redeemable at against unlikely [TS]

  that they're going to do the redemption will see in a couple of years but I'd be [TS]

  pretty shocked if they if they have a moment we're kind of friend turns around [TS]

  I think they're going to keep up with him as an actual villain I don't know I [TS]

  just don't know I think I think he will be turned around I don't think he'll be [TS]

  bad for ever I do that I do like the little twist to the force thing where [TS]

  he's like trying to push the light out like I know that's kind of what happened [TS]

  at a theater but it wasn't quite it wasn't quite framed in that way it's a [TS]

  bit like I what it's like I want to be dug in only the doctors takes over you [TS]

  and you like give up and say oh I just gave up that's what that was done they [TS]

  don't you know it's too late for me so I'm staying up got ink on my shirt [TS]

  that's it you can't you can't claim marcia whereas he's like the opposite [TS]

  he's like he wants to be dug and like he keeps having these light impulses that [TS]

  he's like sign off gotta stop these luck impulses you know I wanna be a bad guy [TS]

  got to stop this hankering to be good I thought let off on that really [TS]

  interesting twist on the force [TS]

  I like that as well I thought that was really nice this idea that there is late [TS]

  temptation I wanna help that out ran across the street but I mustn't I must [TS]

  admit I like that and also I just think it provides a tiny bit of [TS]

  there is a couple I don't quite like in the movie but what one of which is wen [TS]

  wen Han Solo explicitly says that the forces is tied together good and evil [TS]

  like the light and the dark I think you need to at least have a little bit of an [TS]

  excuse for dark side characters to imagine that they are performing the [TS]

  correct actions and if you just explicitly say like oh it's evil I think [TS]

  it is better when villains are somewhat sympathetic and I try to imagine the [TS]

  dark side as like the this is much easier to get started down path though [TS]

  in the long run is less powerful but you can get a very you can go from 0 to 90 [TS]

  very fast and so I imagine that like dark side characters are ambitious and [TS]

  attracted to immediate power and then that's why he finds himself rejecting [TS]

  the light side is because he's trying to grow immediate power fast and so I do [TS]

  like this temptation of God know if I'm gonna level in my light side points to [TS]

  take forever to get really powerful elected on a crashed but the thing [TS]

  that's always been a slight problem for me with the force and Star Wars is that [TS]

  the darkside know that they're the bad guys like that so it's like they know [TS]

  they know they're bad but it's always been a bit weird to me come to come to [TS]

  the day they call themselves the dockside them as will be calling himself [TS]

  the bad guys and girls on their caps right yeah come on come on come and be a [TS]

  bad guy because it's cuz its gives you power and it's fun like like you say [TS]

  like bad surely bad guys are supposed to think they're good guys be in Star Wars [TS]

  universe the bad guys I've always kind of knowing their bad guys like the [TS]

  temporary in the original trilogy seems like he really likes being the village [TS]

  but seems to be a characteristic yeah it's like it's like a fat person saying [TS]

  come on be really really fat because you get to eat lots of yummy donut us really [TS]

  fat disgusting but at least you get to eat donors like surely the ideal person [TS]

  is someone who wants to be thin and donuts but like the day but the darkside [TS]

  alike are willing to be fat because they want a day let's say where is that there [TS]

  is in real life a person who eats lots of donors somehow convinced themselves [TS]

  they can still be thin eventually [TS]

  whereas the dark side don't do that yeah I don't know what I'm doing here with us [TS]

  for some donuts but nowhere to go with it you wouldn't think we liked the film [TS]

  so much the way we were talking about it but well you know it's always easy to [TS]

  complain about have many more things that we will come up against some point [TS]

  I was complaining to my wife for probably a good 30 minutes and testing [TS]

  her patients about how much I dislike the line where ray references the [TS]

  Millennium Falcon having completed the Kessel run in 14 parsecs there are many [TS]

  many more [TS]

  very nerdy very specific things to pick apart and I have a long list of reasons [TS]

  why don't like that line but I'm sure these things will come up again that was [TS]

  doubling down on a mistake wasn't it when they probably shouldn't have ok [TS]

  listen I have to do this again that the short version of this I K [TS]

  the reason I hated that line is because it does a case it's over for anyone to [TS]

  listening our team knows right but in the in the first movie when Han Solo [TS]

  says to Luke been that they made that he made the Kessel run in 12 parsecs nerds [TS]

  kind of freaked out because of our second unit of distance is not a [TS]

  measurement of time and so it seems like it's the wrong thing for the base and [TS]

  yes super nerds don't send me the links about how the parcel about how the [TS]

  Kessel run as measured I know all of this [TS]

  yeah you can I get my interpretation of that scene which I'm convinced every [TS]

  time I watch it is intentional is that Han Solo is hitting been and Luke on [TS]

  purpose he is saying something intentionally wrong to see if they pick [TS]

  up on it like how much do these guys know about space travel how much did [TS]

  they know about ships and their speeds what you mean he got the the essay used [TS]

  a wrong SI unit test than just bragging about something he didn't really [TS]

  accomplish it is a testing their scientific knowledge or testing their [TS]

  knowledge of his fame inability what he is testing is their knowledge of fast [TS]

  ships [TS]

  and the reason he's doing that is because he's trying to sense how much of [TS]

  a sucker they are you can rip them off exactly right how much how much do they [TS]

  know about what's going on how much can you rip them off and if you watch that [TS]

  scene really closely he gives that line and then they they flashed to Ben Kenobi [TS]

  in Luke and belt tobyGames this weird little smile almost like he knows what [TS]

  he's doing [TS]

  I don't think I'm reading too much into the scene by just very very shortly [TS]

  after that then and you get up and leave and that is such a great little moment [TS]

  in Star Wars went on then choose the jewish playboy these guys are really [TS]

  desperate and as I can't wait to extract all the money from from these desperate [TS]

  soccer's we've come along can I say I don't read it that way [TS]

  cannot tell you how I read that saying well first of all let me acknowledge him [TS]

  to stop that quite often when you talk about films you watched as a child you [TS]

  are blinded to some of the added nuance and even an even when you grow up you [TS]

  somehow don't have the ability to say that no one said you might say exactly [TS]

  but that's set that said as my little but cover the way I read this is hands [TS]

  on his behalf a legend in his own lunch time and he thinks he's he thinks he is [TS]

  the great I am and it's kind of like he's one claim to fame is one thing that [TS]

  he thinks he's famous for his is this Kessel run like and these guys haven't [TS]

  heard of it and it's a bit like a slight may walk into a room and i got high and [TS]

  Brady her and I am Number 5 videos and no one has heard of numberphile [TS]

  said the one the one the one thing let you know my claim to fame and like no no [TS]

  and no and I think that's what's happening to him it's like he's he's [TS]

  there you know I put the Millennium Falcon and there was that is going well [TS]

  and made the case you haven't heard of the mother ship it made the Kessel whose [TS]

  time it's like famous man and it's kind of like so he's kind of this light [TS]

  legend in his own mind and he's like being brought down to earth in real life [TS]

  and it's like ok I don't think he's testing them I think he's bragging to [TS]

  them and then he's bred folds flat because these guys are kind of just [TS]

  being so they see things there [TS]

  that's a perfectly legitimate interpretation of the scene I think I [TS]

  wouldn't argue against that because this there's only subtext in that seems so [TS]

  you can interpret either way and so I just have my own pet interpretation of [TS]

  that but it is just destroyed when Ray sends out the Catherine 14 parsecs 12 [TS]

  because it legitimizes I know this was a thing this is a race like guess the dumb [TS]

  extended universe backwards compatibility reason for why it's [TS]

  measured in parsecs is now Canada I really hate that line it completely [TS]

  vindicates my interpretation because what's happening now is he finally made [TS]

  someone who has heard of his great claim to fame and then they get it wrong [TS]

  because they used the wrong number this does go exactly into making your [TS]

  interpretation Canon interpretation moment but also I also don't like that [TS]

  line because I just why does she know this that seems a bizarrely specific [TS]

  thing for this character to know I think there's a purpose to I don't like that [TS]

  line either by the way that's a great with me as well just cause it feels just [TS]

  jazz but I think one of the little to fan service as well but what I think [TS]

  when I think it was trying to do in service of the plug is to show that [TS]

  she's a complete spaceship cake like she's into it she knows everything she [TS]

  knows the Millennium Falcon she knows like she's a real she's a real space [TS]

  ship engineering and mechanical know and like us only a mechanical engineering [TS]

  spaceship node would have heard of the Millennium Falcon and know about the [TS]

  Kessel run so I think they're trying to further establish a potential someone [TS]

  who really know spaceships and we see that later on you know she fixes the [TS]

  Millennium Falcon on the Hoffman so I think they're trying to establish there [TS]

  is a real geek in the area [TS]

  she's the one who has heard of the Kessel run in the Millennium Falcon [TS]

  unlike lukin been yeah I i understand the mechanics of what is doing in the [TS]

  movie and I totally agree and it also acts as a as a first little bonding [TS]

  moment between her and Han Solo [TS]

  antagonistic it's a bit of our ok well these you know about this thing but it's [TS]

  just great to me and it just feels like a weird thing for her to know because [TS]

  the time light when did when did this Kessel run occur at how many years ago [TS]

  was this how many years with this before she was [TS]

  autonomy maybe this is because I'm not a lot of sports nerd but it it seems it [TS]

  seems like the equivalent of someone knowing obscure baseball's statistics [TS]

  that happened twenty years before they were born when their nineteen it seems [TS]

  like a lot I can get that I like that I think the problem the reason it just me [TS]

  is the timing of it like she's like on a broken-down ship hovering in space it so [TS]

  it seems to be her first time in space perhaps a second ago she was figuring [TS]

  out how she's gonna she's gonna live there's a lot of stuff going on it seems [TS]

  like she's just met someone who just doesn't seem like a conversation should [TS]

  be having at that time it seems like something you discuss maybe later over a [TS]

  cup of coffee [TS]

  it's it's it's a line that debt just it just bothers me it feels like a bit of [TS]

  fanservice I understand the mechanics that's what it's doing in the plot but I [TS]

  think there are better ways to do that where she could recognize something [TS]

  about whatever they say something later on the cargo class kind of thing that [TS]

  this ship is you can have her recognize things about the ship on solo talks to [TS]

  her about you don't have to have these particular line especially when it's [TS]

  such an infamous line in in the Star Wars universe it's poking the bear isn't [TS]

  it yeah it's a bit too much this is free to use Star Wars fans but I know I don't [TS]

  I don't need you to remind me just like I don't need the chest able to turn on [TS]

  when Vince its attitude I recognize that chess table immediately there's nobody [TS]

  who sees the chess pieces come on who then puts the put it together in their [TS]

  head [TS]

  everybody who's going to recognize the chess pieces recognizes the table that [TS]

  that would have been classier didn't switch yeah it would be a thousand times [TS]

  classier to the switch on that I think those those two things right in a row [TS]

  where bill I don't need you don't need to do this I recognized the table it's [TS]

  better if the table doesn't turn on that just goes further to that little part of [TS]

  the film when I get off the desert plateau but before they leave being the [TS]

  worst part the film from the basically the moment that ship breaks down in all [TS]

  but Dzeko [TS]

  until they finally blast out of the fixed costs and that whole sequence is [TS]

  the path that is that is that is low part of the film I will agree with that [TS]

  i mean even at least a tiny bit of of class II fanservice but it still at the [TS]

  scene is unnecessary is when Finn is looking for the bandages for chili in [TS]

  that scene he pulls out the training ball at Luke uses and he holds it right [TS]

  in front the camera looks at it and throws it to the size I don't need to do [TS]

  that you can just you can have it on set in the background and trust me I will [TS]

  notice or having floated away but don't linger don't have a look at the people [TS]

  who go through it by my frame also my love you but don't hold up in front of [TS]

  my face it it's it's a bit like I notice every single one of the droids on those [TS]

  first order ships that were the droids from the original movies I recognize [TS]

  that little floor droid right away I see the trashcan guy with the two feet in [TS]

  the background like I recognize all of them you don't need to linger on them [TS]

  and this is the kind of thing which is nice for super fans but yeah holding the [TS]

  thing up in front of cameras a bit too much [TS]

  switching on the chest that is a bit too much that's probably the last of the [TS]

  last of our are picking us about the movie for today anyone today just [TS]

  considered as sort of an introductory taster of will really get his find a [TS]

  tower at a later date of its just this is our first impressions [TS]

  we're going to go back and watch a few more times now to pick up some of the [TS]

  minutiae yeah we'll really get into it then almost certainly I'm going to see [TS]

  it again with my wife [TS]

  relatively soon though I like it [TS]

  complaining if there's anybody who's on the edge and like spoilers and listen to [TS]

  the end I I recommend the new Star Wars movie [TS]

  the end I I recommend the new Star Wars movie [TS]

  you know how I love a little bit of fate and coincidence and stuff I had my head [TS]

  I had been a crazy idea today so I just wanna put it in there cause I know you [TS]

  like new and unpredictable things that I love alone suffered a schedule I did [TS]

  something I do maybe once every few months and that is I bought like a [TS]

  scratch ticket oh yeah I usually do as a little surprise present from iowa [TS]

  because she's not particularly in to scratch tickets but she finds it funny [TS]

  that Australians called them scratch ease so ever since then I sometimes [TS]

  think that's funny because it is funny [TS]

  Australians and your lil names for everything we love putting the liaison [TS]

  the end of things so sometimes I come home and bring her a scratchy so anyway [TS]

  I brought a scratchy for myself and I thought I would do the scratchy luck on [TS]

  the podcast because I could win 1,000,000 pounds and I thought if I 11 [TS]

  million pounds while we will live recording that would be an amazing piece [TS]

  of podcast would be pretty go it would be astounding do you think if I win [TS]

  1,000,000 pounds that would change the topic of today's podcast and we will [TS]

  just talk about how I'm gonna spend this million pants now because honestly I [TS]

  would much rather talk about our intended topic then you're million [TS]

  pounds if you like I'm really happy for you but let's get on with the show [TS]

  really did do you think I could do the show if I just want two million barrels [TS]

  I mean your professional podcaster you should be able to soldier on without one [TS]

  which he just ran into the street screaming no but I think I think it [TS]

  would be unprofessional to win 1,000,000 pounds live on a podcast and then not [TS]

  talk about it just crack on with other by now subjects there's always follow up [TS]

  Brady right we can talk about it and follow up on the next episode [TS]

  you've got to adapt to circumstances and you could go with fake takes you you've [TS]

  got to be as adaptable as a Swiss Army knife as we previously discussed you [TS]

  can't just have your notes and think like like if I was looking out the [TS]

  window right now and a comment came and smashed into the say do you think I'd be [TS]

  thinking would I be thinking that that does his topic for next week I must put [TS]

  the show notes or do you think it's a great not gonna believe what just [TS]

  happened of course if you wildly change this [TS]

  scenario then yes I'm going to agree with you had we're going to talk about a [TS]

  comment smashing into the earth I'm not having that I'm not wildly changing the [TS]

  subject changing the area I like I admit crashing to the earth is pretty [TS]

  significant and more significant than we may winning a million pounds but may 20 [TS]

  million pounds is still like a big deal it's like more interesting than talking [TS]

  about Star Wars it is not it is not more interesting great if you if you want to [TS]

  if you wanna million per someone walked into your office right now and gave you [TS]

  a suitcase with a million pounds I would say let's talk about that Star Wars can [TS]

  wait that is quite an unusual scenario why did someone give me a suitcase full [TS]

  of a million pounds now the suitcases a thing to worry about like sitting here [TS]

  at my feet as I'm trying to record the scenario let me make this really easy [TS]

  for you if you had a scratchy cat in front of you and you scratch that off [TS]

  and you won a million pounds I think that's more interesting than talking [TS]

  about stuff goes ok you know what I can prove to you it isn't because he is that [TS]

  we can do if you really want that can be my scratchy ticket and you can scratch [TS]

  it off and if I win a million pounds then we keep going on with the show and [TS]

  I'm right and it's great that we're going to see if I can prove to you I can [TS]

  prove to you how correct I am on this one I would rather be Rome and having [TS]

  them are you are you ready to scratch off here is scheduled to take it well [TS]

  I'm gonna give you a fun of choices in the scenario because my wife believes [TS]

  that it's lucky to use a golden coin to do it with a coin of high value but just [TS]

  for you I also have a penny I'm gonna let you decide if you want me to use a [TS]

  lucky golden coin or a penny to scratchy scratchy scratchy I mean which one is [TS]

  more satisfying to hold because obviously they're not going to change [TS]

  the numbers in the ticket I've actually was slightly disagreed with my wife on [TS]

  this because I think the gold pound coin is a little bit sick for doing the [TS]

  scratchy oh yeah pound coins no good that's no good to hold it all you need [TS]

  like a tu pense going that's that's good it's nice and then it's probably the [TS]

  only thing that it depends going is good at it is big enough to hold [TS]

  up to scratch when now you've said that I gotta go and get two pence cause now I [TS]

  feel like it's bad luck if i dont use it to a pens game it doesn't there is no [TS]

  there is no luck in this scenario I'm gonna get to Penn Schoen hang on [TS]

  ok I made in this news release getting it depends if he has it right hand is [TS]

  going to be sitting back down in like two seconds I'm back on his way back to [TS]

  you know I keep my cup of coins in a in a old ww2 like mortar shell then huge [TS]

  big goldwater show is it within arms reach is essentially a pretty matches so [TS]

  figured it's on those bookshelves next to my desk right right of course sounds [TS]

  good just the way they mentally to pants ok see if you can guess what you might [TS]

  open scoring is from 1990 1995 nowhere near it [TS]

  we have what like fifty years of two pence coins I think that's pretty close [TS]

  five years five years how long how long of two pence coins currently in [TS]

  circulation been made [TS]

  let me let me say something again grow so you can do it all my goodness great [TS]

  that's amazing you are within five years they didn't exactly because it would be [TS]

  ridiculous because being five years is nowhere near I think it depends entirely [TS]

  on how many years worth of fifty pence coins are in circulation and I bet [TS]

  there's like 50 years worth of fifty pence going circulations 108 maybe not [TS]

  cuz theres desolation in the nineteen seventies in the UK and other currency [TS]

  in the nineteen seventies I think they did 66 I believe was the ok so still [TS]

  like shifted basically fifty years ago I don't know that was 66 assists in my [TS]

  head cuz that's also the year they won the World Cup I could be wrong about [TS]

  that but anyway there's many many years I'm within 5 I'm impressed by this [TS]

  random coincidence are you impressed by telling him you like that that's what I [TS]

  tell you what you will be impressed by my million pound win that's about to [TS]

  happen mary millions I put a picture of the card and shown out so people can [TS]

  have [TS]

  look what's the maximum on that scratch the maximum million parents who is not [TS]

  really Mary millions it's Mary hey million or 44 for people to marry [TS]

  million therefore it's a Merry millions visit Mary's million there's million [TS]

  pounds the next prices 25 2010 51 than 200 100 as the little ones if I win [TS]

  25,000 I don't really know what we're gonna do I think I mean that's there's a [TS]

  lot of money but where is that boundary of when it becomes uninteresting [TS]

  we've got a great because that's the whole thing with like scratch cards and [TS]

  lotteries as before you inevitably lose it so the dreaming of what will happen [TS]

  if you win so I'm trying to make course that is what this thing is so I'm not [TS]

  even dreaming of what I would do with the million I'm dreaming of what will [TS]

  podcast about if I read the million [TS]

  got like it's like levels of abstraction going on here we know we're going to [TS]

  talk about we're gonna podcast about Star Wars now here we go there are four [TS]

  gingerbread man in a little cluster and apparently if I if when I scratch away [TS]

  these gingerbread man if I find a little Santa Claus face i win a prize I'm sure [TS]

  to listeners are holding their breath man had a ball pool side win the second [TS]

  on a globe know when a sweet know when Holly know where and when nothing how [TS]

  unlikely it looks like today's podcast is going to be about the new Star Wars [TS]

  film The Force awakens [TS]

  what's the most important thing before we say anything about the force awakens [TS]

  the new Star Wars movie instead of us is what is a spoiler situation here because [TS]

  oil is a very important when it comes to this there can't not be spoilers this [TS]

  episode is going to have many spoilers starting essentially immediately so so [TS]

  if you don't want spoilers stop now we are recording this is at its two days [TS]

  after it came out in the UK I think that's about right and i know many [TS]

  people who have taken the last couple days to basically hide from the internet [TS]

  because they are terrified of receiving spoilers so I know a lot of people like [TS]

  I can't go on reddit I can go on Twitter because if I go on I know I'm going to [TS]

  see spoiler and so many many people are are hiding but as always cast people [TS]

  could be listening in the far far future great I have a story yes a blatant [TS]

  exactly to that obviously will come to us so we can estaba spoilers obviously a [TS]

  very major character dies in this film and I was spoiled [TS]

  yeah I was it doesn't really bother me but I and it was just you know what it [TS]

  does bother me it was the method in which it was done okay so tell me how [TS]

  did this tragedy happened I was in the comments section of one of my videos [TS]

  just like I do for work and it was one of those people who just who just wants [TS]

  to be a bad person and just wrote so-and-so dies and is killed by someone [TS]

  so no one really basically the whole purpose was for people to stumble over [TS]

  and incidentally and can I say [TS]

  and I've been thinking about this and I don't want to sound too extreme but I [TS]

  think people who do that I don't judge them cause I don't know what's going on [TS]

  in their lives they could have had a difficult childhood [TS]

  of stuff going on and I've lived long enough to know when people do bad things [TS]

  sometimes there are other things going on so I don't want to I don't judge the [TS]

  person [TS]

  but can I say that Act the act of spoiling say I feel more a TV show in [TS]

  that I don't know if there's a word for doing that i'm gonna call / spoiling [TS]

  it's like a drive-by spoiling what is called a flash point is I think it's a [TS]

  little bit catch you but I think the act of doing that is one of the most pure [TS]

  despicable things you can possibly do because there's nothing but evil about [TS]

  it [TS]

  life is nothing but taking pleasure from evil there are many worse things that [TS]

  people can go right for example crimes and terrorism they are worse things [TS]

  right to inspect some how many of them can be justified but you can say well [TS]

  okay this person may be heard they had walked believe so they thought they were [TS]

  doing the right thing or they were motivated by a need and then they did a [TS]

  really bad thing but people who are doing these flash spoils me it's just [TS]

  that there's none of that going on there's no there's no constructs you can [TS]

  make where there's like a justification other than them taking pleasure from [TS]

  ruining something for other people and I think that's a really despicable acting [TS]

  you can sit there and laugh and think i've i've ruin the film for X number of [TS]

  people and then you have but can I just say that's a despicable thing you've [TS]

  done and like that's as low as you can get a good time for you I know it makes [TS]

  you happy that that and that just makes me feel a bit sad for you I can imagine [TS]

  that sort of person takes a lot of pleasure [TS]

  there's something about this which is like East symmetric warfare in that I [TS]

  imagine the person who does the spoiling gets maybe five seconds worth a very [TS]

  minor enjoyment for some people but the damage done is enormous [TS]

  you you ruin the movie for a large group of people like you take away such a huge [TS]

  amount of joy for what is a very probable very small increase of pleasure [TS]

  to yourself so that's one of things it's even worse about it like the asymmetry [TS]

  of it well I mean that's the case from [TS]

  crimes and things isn't what you say is true great I just think I guess that's [TS]

  just sad that had a sad crap life and they may be they feel that the world's [TS]

  been bad to them so they want to do something bad to the world I'm thinking [TS]

  of the damage done in terms of human hours of enjoyment you know when someone [TS]

  sees a spoiler like that on one of your videos like it's possible you know many [TS]

  hundreds maybe thousands of people see that lets multiply a thousand human [TS]

  hours of spoiled moving us against the persons leading seconds of enjoyment [TS]

  that is the tremendous asymmetry of it that mean then let people who kick [TS]

  puppies on that as far as bad things go that are not illegal it's it's up there [TS]

  but by the way I am only talking about these flash boils like I mean people may [TS]

  people may be pointing out that in our recent vote-counting video the face of [TS]

  growing appeared a few times I point out why this is different when it was [TS]

  accidental [TS]

  it was you editing the video was made that video is very long and as you know [TS]

  I didn't go through a frame-by-frame and it had to be done a bit of a hurry if [TS]

  you're watching that video you probably know you're in a frisky zone but if [TS]

  you're like somewhere unrelated and someone does that does that flash Boyle [TS]

  I think that's a bit worse I didn't quite realize that there actually are a [TS]

  tremendous number of comments on our flag video about spoilers for my face [TS]

  but I didn't see very much of that because as soon as we put the video up I [TS]

  was precisely afraid of the thing that happened to you happening to me of [TS]

  someone leaving just a random comment on that video to be a jerk about Star Wars [TS]

  spoilers so this is how we looking at so little in the last couple days leading [TS]

  up to this movie and then after I saw for the first time I went back to look [TS]

  at that video Russell 2000 boy lots of comments about these would be great face [TS]

  boilers again need to add an annotation or something to to warn people about it [TS]

  because of how many comments there have been anyway enough about that it didn't [TS]

  I don't think it affected my enjoyment of the film I didn't you know I didn't [TS]

  take enough from a to know exactly what and when and how and who said there was [TS]

  still some doubts but it did you know that was less of a surprise as a result [TS]

  but anyway let's talk about this film [TS]

  let's talk about Star Wars now actually the force awakens directed by Jim Abrams [TS]

  now you've already seen it twice the way this work is that I saw it on the 17th [TS]

  as a date with my wife had originally reserve some tickets ahead of time and [TS]

  we were going to go out and see it because because we are professional [TS]

  movie reviewers in some way I like this notion that everything we discuss on the [TS]

  podcast we can somehow be professional in in any way and we get we get money [TS]

  for the podcasting network professional X we're professional movers now I mean [TS]

  after that scratchy thing on a professional gambler I believe you are [TS]

  you a Wikipedia pages are going to get very long very long my plan was unlike [TS]

  say some of the other movies that we have intentionally watched for the [TS]

  podcast like The Hobbit movies where my expectations were low going in when I go [TS]

  into the Hobbit movie I have my phone now ready to take notes right away [TS]

  because I feel like a movie there's no way you're going to convince me to put [TS]

  down this phone because you're interesting so I might as well start [TS]

  taking notes now but I felt that that would have been deeply unfair to do to [TS]

  the Star Wars movie and it was also just not something I wanted to do and also [TS]

  just not something I would want to do when I'm going to see a movie with [TS]

  somebody else so I booked two tickets one which was just to see it with my [TS]

  wife and just to watch it and then the second one which just happened today [TS]

  which is the day after I booked it with the intention of going into the movie [TS]

  theater and having my phone and taking notes by the way people don't worry I [TS]

  booked in the back so that nobody was getting distracted by my phone so then [TS]

  the second thing is that ok now I am medal watching this like I'm watching me [TS]

  watching this and i'm taking notes on it and and writing some stuff down so [TS]

  that's that's my experience of it OK and you have watched it once I've watched it [TS]

  once yes I watched the day after you basically my wife wants to see it and [TS]

  she's booked tickets for us to see it on Sunday which happens to be the day after [TS]

  uni recording now [TS]

  because we're recording the podcast want to talk about and also I wanted to avoid [TS]

  spoilers I went to see a day earlier than two days earlier than planned but [TS]

  also funnily enough we've now learned this sound of music alive event is on TV [TS]

  on the Sunday night my wife really wants to watch so we've actually booked [TS]

  tickets for Monday night now and we're not gonna use a Sunday Ticket so there [TS]

  will be two empty seats in the cinema for one of the screenings so I would [TS]

  have bought three tickets in the course of four days but only gone to two of [TS]

  them as we talk now I've only seen it once I didn't take notes during ice [TS]

  cream with some notes the day after my memories of it alright well I know Brady [TS]

  you have no patience for talking about it without saying in advance what you [TS]

  actually thought of the movie so do you want to give your overall feeling he [TS]

  reaction to Star Wars do you disagree with me because I know this is a point [TS]

  of difference between us you like sort of constructing this complicated web [TS]

  where no one knows exactly what you're thinking with a movie review it's more [TS]

  important for people to know what you think overall I know where you're coming [TS]

  from and then and then you say good or bad about it has a context i think [TS]

  talking about it is the review [TS]

  yeah and that's what we'll do but it is it is all colored by whether or not you [TS]

  liked the film like it colors I think it's important to do and that's why I [TS]

  will I will concede I will concede your point ik I will concede your point [TS]

  ok well my overall feeling about it that will that can be taken with everything I [TS]

  say subsequently is I thought it was a really really good it was excellent [TS]

  two thumbs up superb job wow high rankings probably the biggest star Wars [TS]

  fan that I know in real life I know anybody in real life be like Star Wars [TS]

  more than you not flawless and I have a have a whole page of of criticisms I [TS]

  think when he was announced as directed my expectations were too high then they [TS]

  went down and after a few of the trailers I began to lose faith and get [TS]

  to wonder some expectations went down a bit so it exceeded my expectations but [TS]

  my expectations weren't ridiculously high but they also were at rock bottom [TS]

  but I think the film's very good for two four and a half stars out of 5 I'd say [TS]

  what about you what's your overall thoughts before we get get down to the [TS]

  nitty gritty yes I had only watched that first trailer that you made me watch for [TS]

  the record I wouldn't have watched otherwise like you I was happy VD [TS]

  hearings was selected as the director and I was intentionally keeping my [TS]

  expectations low and my mind mental bar here was if we can get something as good [TS]

  as the new Star Trek movies that James did that's a win those Star Trek movies [TS]

  same thing like they're they're like a fun adventure ride but I've never felt [TS]

  really compelled to watch them again but I would still feel like that would be [TS]

  that would be a win that's really what I'm hoping for that was kind of the [TS]

  mental bar in my life is is ok maybe it's going to be like Star Wars as seen [TS]

  through modern action movie genres but I'll be fine with that if it's if it's [TS]

  like Star Trek but I watched it and I would say that it passed that far [TS]

  it was a better movie than the Star Trek movie was I really liked it's like to [TS]

  have a quite a long list of things that I didn't like but overall it was it felt [TS]

  to me like this huge relief of like oh wow it's a it's a Star Wars movie that I [TS]

  can enjoy again [TS]

  I watched it and it was a fun adventure and I liked it and it was it was good in [TS]

  all the ways that I wanted it to end the thing that I really kept feeling [TS]

  throughout it was like that Star Trek movie doesn't really you like star track [TS]

  but watching this Star Wars movie it felt like the line at Honolulu given the [TS]

  movies like we're home again like this feels like Star Wars it's hard to pin [TS]

  down what that is exactly what it feels like it's in the same family as those [TS]

  original three-month high grade I think I [TS]

  reasons for that I agree with you and that arrow sites like it's made star was [TS]

  a case against like after those three abominations it was a bit like people [TS]

  that you like Star Wars really but those rooms are rubbish it's a bit like year [TS]

  but say now is OK [TS]

  healing moment that that's that's really what it feels like it's just it feels [TS]

  like oh there's there's been this great healing energy Abrams has laid his hands [TS]

  upon the series and it's all okay now maybe it's a bit like a sporting team [TS]

  that won a bunch of super bowls like in the eighties and then they became really [TS]

  rubbish team never gives you a hard time for liking that time this year that had [TS]

  a really good season and made the playoffs on paper it's all right there [TS]

  after oh yeah it was it was it was great and I hope does need gives judge abrams [TS]

  all the creatively way that he once for whatever he's going to do with with the [TS]

  next movies kobe's he is physically safe for the near future someone get that guy [TS]

  the bodyguard 24 7 because I want to make sure I G Abrams is a okay to keep [TS]

  this to keep this train rolling a piece of paper here that says the light side [TS]

  and a piece of paper that says the dark side of the things I like to do things I [TS]

  didn't like my tax ID one problem is a bit longer how we gonna do this do what [TS]

  are we going good some bad so we goin chronological age you know how do you [TS]

  want to talk about the film let's just start kind of rolling through what [TS]

  happens in the movie and then and and take it from there I think if we go [TS]

  funny we don't have to stick to call logical or anything but let's just kind [TS]

  of like start the [TS]

  a very good place to stop my very first note on this was text scroll know it [TS]

  taxes exclamation mark right away it felt great to see a text scroll in the [TS]

  opening part of the movie that was people focus they get with clear of here [TS]

  is the set up Luke is missing [TS]

  Princess Leia general area now has sent off this guy to go look for something [TS]

  that's important it was just it was a very good start [TS]

  ok great there's a text girl that I understand the talking about people it's [TS]

  not talking about trade embargoes and federations and all the rest of this [TS]

  right away very happy very good sign I just love it and of course I don't think [TS]

  you can sit in a movie theater and not have that initial Star Wars sound come [TS]

  on and blasted with that logo and not feel a moment of just tremendous [TS]

  excitement like no matter how low my expectations were going into that peter [TS]

  hasn't tried to like turned down my expectations intentionally as soon as [TS]

  that Big Star Wars sound comes on you just oh boy here we go I hope it's [TS]

  amazing to say that the scroll wasn't bad ok so far as to say it was good [TS]

  stuff I think that the first words Luke Skywalker has vanished that's really [TS]

  compelling like that's like that's a really good first few words like the [TS]

  first thing everyone wonders going to see that film is what's gonna happen to [TS]

  Luke Skywalker like where i doing now comes the big hero what's and to start [TS]

  with that straight away it's like okay let's the hotel doesn't he know the easy [TS]

  way to really get it was really good start sending around and they do a [TS]

  little bit of misdirection because they mentioned about Princess Leia sending [TS]

  her daring pilot off to go find whatever did find the missing map [TS]

  yeah and and of course in your mind you're thinking of that must be Han Solo [TS]

  right now of course not this is the new movie there's a new cast is going to be [TS]

  somebody else he was the daring pilot was written obviously intentionally to [TS]

  make you think conselho and then like nope this is a new this is a new set of [TS]

  movies I thought that was a nice looking to do as well yeah and then the open and [TS]

  then from the scroll obviously the camera pans down in the great Star Wars [TS]

  tradition to see what a big amazing money shots gonna be a [TS]

  is it gonna be a rolling ship or what's it gonna be scrolling down to a planet I [TS]

  think he did he did well it is different but in keeping with the great star was [TS]

  tradition like right away I thought that was a really good sign of he's doing the [TS]

  traditional move we have pan to a planet but he's doing it as the silhouette of [TS]

  the ship so you don't actually see the ship that is is this first one here you [TS]

  just see that there's some silhouette crossing the planet down go these little [TS]

  pods with storm troopers in them and it's like it's ok great this feels like [TS]

  we're doing the right things here going through all the motions but also it's [TS]

  it's different and its new so I thought I thought that was that was really good [TS]

  it's doing everything you need to its conveying so much information with so [TS]

  little effort like okay because the planet like a clips because the plan is [TS]

  eclipsed by the ship its ok this is menaced this is this is big and menacing [TS]

  and straight oh and all of these things are being given to you straight away no [TS]

  confusion now no clutter just but everything is got meaning it's not only [TS]

  beautiful and clever it's it's giving information all the time which is so [TS]

  important at the start of the film is an especially these are films even if you [TS]

  imagine someone walking into this movie theater and they've never seen Star Wars [TS]

  before and they're reading this text may have no idea who any of these people are [TS]

  you still know that the ship is bad news so clearly this is bad news right these [TS]

  are not people that you want coming to this planet just visually like they [TS]

  don't have to tell you anything about it there are a lot of little moments like [TS]

  this in the movie where I just found myself thinking like how competent you [TS]

  are using visual language to convey something like this this is just [TS]

  absolutely this is absolutely a pleasure to watch when when someone is doing [TS]

  doing this kind of thing yeah so I think the first the first major departure in [TS]

  the movie is the scene when the storm troopers land they are thinking of his [TS]

  as new tattoo him truly Jaku i think is the name for it [TS]

  yeah but it's another desert planet yeah it's another does deter planet it's it's [TS]

  you know it's new Tatooine [TS]

  and they're they're landing in there doing a raid and there's a storm trooper [TS]

  who is freaking out because he's this is his his first fight as you find out [TS]

  later he seeing you seeing all the death occurring around him and he's like a [TS]

  PTSD stormtrooper in this moment he sees presumably one of his friends dies this [TS]

  again was just a great thing like let's do something a little bit different and [TS]

  the and the old Star Wars movies had these couple little moments where where [TS]

  storm troopers where human eyes like chatting on the side of of them will be [TS]

  seen or whatever but here we are going to focus on a stormtrooper like one guy [TS]

  who is a real person who is going to be an actual character and I mean because I [TS]

  had seen the trailer that really made me want to presume that that was going to [TS]

  be the case that I guess storm trooper was was one of the main characters by I [TS]

  thought it was a good move I got an interesting it's an interesting and [TS]

  different place to focus in in the movie and we have this sort of this little [TS]

  battle and skirmish kick off on the on the desert planet the same and where [TS]

  someone files a blast heard a big bad and he froze the blast about in the in [TS]

  the in mid-air I mean if you'd told me beforehand that was going to happen out [TS]

  of it or not too sure about that but I was also and it was such a cool new use [TS]

  of the focus was such a cool new effect to see a lazy about frozen in mid-air [TS]

  but still sort of sizzling on the spot other that was that was so cold that [TS]

  blaster bolts was designed in the same way that Iran's lightsabers done where [TS]

  it in its like angry right it has sparks coming off the edge of it feels alive [TS]

  because this is this is the this is the plus side of making a movie many years [TS]

  later that we have better graphics technology we can make things look [TS]

  better than just lines on the screen so yes when when that blaster boulders [TS]

  fired and it stopped in mid air in it you couldn't have done that effect [TS]

  before because it would just be like others are glowing line in the center of [TS]

  the screen but with this it feels like that blaster bolt is just [TS]

  tradução dying to move forward like it's giving off sparks and its kinda [TS]

  moving around a little bit but but it's just casually held there by the dark [TS]

  side of the force and yes it is just so cool like that is exactly the kind of [TS]

  thing I can imagine if I was there I was a little kid seeing this like you [TS]

  imagine yourself like stopping blaster bolts with your hands when you're [TS]

  playing with other kids like that's just a great great thing to do in in the [TS]

  opening scene to establish I guess this guy can do amazing things right away and [TS]

  also very early on we have a bit of a market for the film as well as when when [TS]

  this this pilot here a guy whose name of already forgotten is sort of brought [TS]

  before con la Renta get a telling off and and that is really jokey he's funny [TS]

  like an early modern and modern jerky way who's gonna talk first you can talk [TS]

  the talk first like it was very like okay they gonna they're gonna be sexy [TS]

  but it was a real martin sass wasn't it was an old-fashioned humor it was like [TS]

  very modern speak and it was it was actually quite disorienting for a second [TS]

  that moment right there when the pilot says even talk first my get talks first [TS]

  and then I'll iran says something and then he does another joke which is that [TS]

  he says it's it's very hard to understand you with all the apparatus [TS]

  he's making fun of the of the mask this guys wearing that was one moment where I [TS]

  was thinking like oh I was a little worried at that point because it is that [TS]

  to me just doesn't feel Star Wars because it is very modern I'm not saying [TS]

  it's bad but it was a moment where everything was going great on this train [TS]

  and in my mind anyway like we hit a tiny bump and now I'm suddenly cautious again [TS]

  writes like shields up a little bit worried just again just because I want [TS]

  your watching the movie you just wanted to go so well in the experiences in the [TS]

  past have been so bad [TS]

  release I was anyway like hyper sensitive to everything that felt like [TS]

  slightly slightly off right at the beginning I was not a fan of that and I [TS]

  wasn't a fan of it on the second viewing again but this is where we will start to [TS]

  get into some of the things that I think are little bit off a little bit [TS]

  it did remove a lot of the gravitas of characters that i think is supposed to [TS]

  have some gravitas it did later on I i mean I really liked the humor in the [TS]

  film I'm sure we'll talk about that but there were a couple of times with the [TS]

  humor felt like it was too much from the streets of New York and not enough from [TS]

  a long time ago in a galaxy far far away there's a few things then felt I feel [TS]

  like I can say this it felt like to american in a way and in a few moments [TS]

  in the movie was ok that's feels very American and it does it doesn't feel [TS]

  like this this other place but yeah but relative relatively minor thing [TS]

  relatively minor thing at the moment since I just talked about a moment where [TS]

  I was a little bit worried about stuff I kind of want to talk about the the [TS]

  moment when I felt just sold on this movie and just really stopped thinking [TS]

  about watching the Star Wars movie and I started just watching a Star Wars movie [TS]

  yeah and this was this was when they have the introduction for the main [TS]

  character of the movie the girl ray yeah and so they there's these establishing [TS]

  shots of her and she is a scavenger on new Tatooine and she's pulling apart all [TS]

  of these ships and she has this this like I don't know how long it is maybe [TS]

  you five minute introductory scene seven minutes or so where that is totally free [TS]

  of dialogue and she's she's not saying anything the movie just showing her [TS]

  going about her her life is a scavenger and it's great because they're in the [TS]

  background their these scenes of these big ships that have crashed on [TS]

  Jaku and they don't bother explaining like how the ship's got that like who [TS]

  cares it just looks Star Wars here's this person going through the rubbish [TS]

  and there's just this little moment when she's collected up all of her stuff and [TS]

  she puts it on this little sledge is on the top of a sand dune and she slides [TS]

  down the San do [TS]

  and there's this just to my mind this pitch perfect musical that is is that [TS]

  the use throughout the movie but it's the first time you hear it I've been [TS]

  thinking about that shot I don't know why but for some reason that was just [TS]

  the moment I felt like this is really great you have injuries done at the [TS]

  bombastic here's some fight scene of their spaceships here in there like no [TS]

  you're establishing a new character you're also you're also taking your time [TS]

  in doing this you don't feel rushed very much like the earlier Star Wars movies [TS]

  which are surprisingly slow in some scenes when you watch them now this felt [TS]

  like the same thing like you taking plenty of time to do it and then on top [TS]

  of it you have new music but it's still feels like Star Wars and it still feels [TS]

  like this belongs right in in the movie I love the non smoking establishment of [TS]

  her as a brand new character and that was the point where I really feel like [TS]

  I'm just sitting back and just watching this movie and I'm not really nervous [TS]

  about it anymore or thinking about him watching a brand new Star Wars I'm just [TS]

  engaged with the new character who is doing things in this world like that's [TS]

  that's where I really felt sold on this establishing so much about her you know [TS]

  she's she's tecnico she's resourceful she's she's she's like muscular like [TS]

  she's action she's a she's a woman of action all the time even through that [TS]

  even through that sort of gentle breather after the action he's not used [TS]

  to so much about her in a short space of time still and watching that silent [TS]

  introduction the second time I was even just more aware of all of the things [TS]

  that are being established about her and also I don't know who that actress is [TS]

  never seen her before in anything but man I i think [TS]

  she nails that role every line in every scene I just think she just hits it [TS]

  right out of the park there's something about her that she's just so natural [TS]

  that she really feels a part of the Star Wars world unlike some other people I [TS]

  might mention later but I just thought she was she was just amazing she just [TS]

  fits so perfectly and it's one of these things that I can never quite put my [TS]

  finger on it but some some actors and actresses are just so natural on-screen [TS]

  you just feel like they are what they are and other people you feel like oh [TS]

  you're a good actor but I'm aware of you is being an actor and she was just the [TS]

  total natural so I felt like man who have you found her from the casting [TS]

  department it was just an amazing choice she was so good even just even just [TS]

  little things about in this silent introduction when they show her eating [TS]

  the bread that she's earned from from the items that she has scavenged she's [TS]

  eating that bread convincingly like a person who is really hungry and not [TS]

  doing it in an overly obvious way it's just so natural I guess this is a person [TS]

  who got less food than they were expecting from their scavenging and [TS]

  she's she's hungry and she's she's eating this and it sounds dumb to [TS]

  mention that but it's it's just a just a pleasure to watch them on screen who's [TS]

  just so so good at their job is she was really really just amazing [TS]

  on Mon lot side least here geez absolute top number one i think she's the best [TS]

  thing about the whole film yeah without a doubt that the actress is also the [TS]

  characters she does a great performance but the character so interesting and [TS]

  because their costumes great like every every every single thing about that [TS]

  character ray is is brilliant and I think she is absolutely makes the film I [TS]

  always wanted to say what she was up to when she was on screen could you imagine [TS]

  just imagine if George Lucas had to write a three-minute silence scene for [TS]

  introducing a new character how [TS]

  how unbearably awful would that be would he even try now of course not but it's [TS]

  and that's where like that just felt really great like man I am in the hands [TS]

  of a competent team was able to show me things without having to explain things [TS]

  like that they're people who are thinking about this where they show her [TS]

  writing the notches on the wall so you have some sense though she's been in [TS]

  this place for a long time you know everything about her life like you said [TS]

  you you learn this from her and she is great and and the the directing team [TS]

  even things like I just kept thinking wow there are interesting camera angles [TS]

  in this movie like they're choosing to put the camera in [TS]

  angled locations to show you a bunch of different stuff actually I realized on [TS]

  the second time around her first line of dialogue is in them is in some made up [TS]

  language right she's she's yelling at the guy who finds the the Droid BB 8900 [TS]

  she's she's yelling in a in a different language and it just comes off as [TS]

  convincing as she she sounds like she does speak some other language and and [TS]

  even then she makes like a little head gesture and she should she's the Droid [TS]

  she just comes off right away as very very competent character and and and a [TS]

  great actress yes seriously Daisy Ridley's the actress's name however I [TS]

  feel like this is a moment where maybe I would take something which is on the [TS]

  dark side as as you have divided your lists let me get my dockside paper as [TS]

  well as well as my tax ID paper cuz for as much as I love lots of stuff in this [TS]

  movie showing you things without explaining it to you I feel like there [TS]

  was some writer on the team or someone who felt that there had to be lots of [TS]

  exposition that was redundant in the movie there are tons of lines in this [TS]

  movie where people say things twice or three times right in a row and it just [TS]

  really irked the heck out of me and this girl has one of those lines where she is [TS]

  she goes into town with BB 8-18 you in the silence seen we have established [TS]

  that she's obviously been there for a long time she's taking off his remarks [TS]

  on the wall [TS]

  but she says the to the Droid I know all about 180 for my family [TS]

  they'll be back I feel like these these lines like we know you're waiting for [TS]

  someone you don't need to explicitly say this out loud and I just like they were [TS]

  a bunch of lines were someone would just say things several times over and over [TS]

  again and I just found that kind of your eating like the exposition dial in [TS]

  dialogue was was turned up way too many times I gotta have a couple notes for [TS]

  similar similar lines were someone else later in the movie says the Droid is in [TS]

  the hands of your father Hans solo it again now we know we got it right we got [TS]

  it but you don't you have to say it twice that everybody in the movie knows [TS]

  what you're talking about I meet people don't always pay attention and if things [TS]

  are really important you gonna make sure they know them they're cut the times I [TS]

  agree I think I don't think her putting notches on the wall of her of her home [TS]

  or if she was immediately said to me she was waiting for something we did need to [TS]

  be told she was waiting for people to come back with but they are real they [TS]

  visit that later in the movie later in the lobby where they do it like it's not [TS]

  necessary to do right now you have some sense you have some sense of this [TS]

  already and I think it'd be more powerful leader if you don't like hammer [TS]

  it home and you know and then lined a great in the beginning when someone is [TS]

  talking to Kyle 0 ran away and he says over the first-order rose from the [TS]

  darkside you did not write telling us the color and didn't start out evil then [TS]

  his very next line is you can't deny the origin of your family is ok but you [TS]

  could have stopped did you did not like we understand he didn't start out on the [TS]

  dark side you don't have to like super hammered in I think my favorite my [TS]

  favorite example of this is is down at the very end they mention someone that [TS]

  the pilot guy has a line about it's it's destroying the Sun right in when the Sun [TS]

  is when the Sun is gone then the other weapon as ready as I okay that's a great [TS]

  line he says so as long as it's light out we still have a chance attacking you [TS]

  did you just said that like you just said that line with your previous line [TS]

  that that's probably one of things just irritated me the most is feeling like [TS]

  there were lots of these lines for people who like [TS]

  really trying to make sure that you following along and I understand what [TS]

  movies do that but I just don't know if you like you I always one less [TS]

  exposition then there are movies and this movie felt like they were a few [TS]

  really egregious lines of of exposition I agree with that someone later in the [TS]

  film I thought that was that was later a bit thick but I also think the fact you [TS]

  saw this film twice in three days is contributing to that and I think it's [TS]

  definitely not because that was that was I have fun looking on on my screen [TS]

  working on my screen the two sets of notes that I have which was the first [TS]

  reaction notes and my first reaction notes has a big thing saying there's 22 [TS]

  much as 20% too much exposition and I wrote down that line about light and [TS]

  made a note from future me to find some of the other lines because the first [TS]

  time I watched it I felt like there's just too much of this is too much of [TS]

  this I mean I've heard you complain about this with other films to them as [TS]

  well you know i think i think you know everyone pays close to pay close [TS]

  attention so I feel about the same way but not everyone pays close attention I [TS]

  was a bit too much about but I don't think at like crippled the film and and [TS]

  I need the gym no I don't I don't think so either but it's one of the things I [TS]

  like when you're really enjoying the movie I just find that stuff like sticks [TS]

  in his stick side as this would be a better movie it without this yeah that's [TS]

  also do you have something from your dark side list that you want to mention [TS]

  something this semi related and almost funny that this is this kind of almost [TS]

  goes against what you said and that is I felt like this film like a a big [TS]

  complaint about the terrible terrible prequels is that they completely [TS]

  abandoned sort of characters and interesting counties and they [TS]

  concentrated on this boring politics and this is this big the match the Metro [TS]

  story of what's going on in the galaxy I feel like this film went very very far [TS]

  in the other direction to the point where I kinda didn't understand the big [TS]

  picture very much and therefore I didn't really care [TS]

  about some of the things that were going on like who's in charge of the galaxy [TS]

  now and that that planet they blew up I I sort of had the impression that the [TS]

  bad guys the empire had sort of had retained control after Return of the [TS]

  Jedi but then these bad guys with their stock of blowing up is that the planet [TS]

  with the Senate on it they just blew up so it is the zip code is as the military [TS]

  take over the government and let and hang on so princess Leia's like still a [TS]

  rebel so there is still rebels so the bad guys are still in control so why [TS]

  they why do they play that up and and lots and lots of the stuff happening at [TS]

  the higher level like the big the big politics I was completely bamboozled by [TS]

  and therefore I was finding it hard to sort of like a those guys with the stock [TS]

  cooler bad so obviously a play that thing up but who's in charge but what's [TS]

  going on there was there was a lot of the macro was lost on me I was very [TS]

  engaged with the micro but the big picture was lost to me and therefore for [TS]

  example at the end of a new hope you just want that Death Star blown up so [TS]

  bad you know you know how bad is you know who's good you know who's bad this [TS]

  this attack is the culmination but by the end of force awakens it's a bit like [TS]

  you care about the star killer thing and therefore this big siege at the end when [TS]

  I fly unemployed up it's a bit like yeah I can see why your blood that bad but it [TS]

  wasn't it wasn't God thank God it's gone it's gone it's gone the Death Star was [TS]

  gonna blow up every plan and the Galaxy it was really feel it is Starkiller on [TS]

  like we win next ok what what massive spherical planet destroying device that [TS]

  they're gonna be a next whistle blew up a similar thing in my first reaction [TS]

  notes that I was I was thinking oh did I miss something here because I had a note [TS]

  about the first-order Senate resistance question mark and my feeling was I don't [TS]

  understand the relationship between these three entities and you know when [TS]

  I'm what when I was first watching the movie it was ok I'm just going along [TS]

  with this we have we have obviously the bad guys and obviously the good guy [TS]

  guys but as soon as the star killer came online it did immediately drawn to my [TS]

  attention like wait I don't actually understand what's going on because this [TS]

  resistance seems separates from the senate it doesn't it doesn't seem like [TS]

  they are connected and when I was watching a movie a second time I was [TS]

  trying to pay attention they did I miss online like something explaining [TS]

  something here and we really know and there's actually a line that made me [TS]

  even more confused because when the when the evil general is giving his big [TS]

  speech about how we're going to destroy that senate he makes he makes some [TS]

  remark i wish i I caught it the exact remark but he makes some remark that [TS]

  it's the lead me to believe that there is some formal separation between the [TS]

  senate and the resistance he makes remarkable how ago that the senate is [TS]

  you know is lying about something about the resistance and then it's ok now this [TS]

  is really unclear the relationship between these entities like i presume [TS]

  that the senate is running the Galaxy now and then the first order is the [TS]

  remnants of the empire with incredible resources like oh don't mind us with our [TS]

  terror but then like where the rebellion fits into that is very confusing to me [TS]

  that like if you are not the area where the resistance in the give you are not [TS]

  the army of the senate like I'm I am confused now like you're in it you [TS]

  princess Lalla how are you connected to all of this is that felt weird the film [TS]

  would have made more sense if the resistance princess layer and the people [TS]

  with the ex wings was the military branch of the Senate but then they would [TS]

  no longer be underdogs they would be part of the establishment and you'd lose [TS]

  that whole dynamic so for some reason they've made them to some sort of [TS]

  splinter freedom fighters when when it doesn't really logically may make sense [TS]

  i mean because who they're resisting this first order lunch like you know the [TS]

  enemy that the outsiders or are they all are [TS]

  I actually had the impression that the first order was the military branch of [TS]

  the the Senate but the government and that gone bad you know because they've [TS]

  got an army that was confusing it remains confusing to me it remains [TS]

  confusing I'm sure there are answers to all these me extended universe like all [TS]

  of us like I don't really care I'm just watching this movie and I'm curious but [TS]

  the things in the universe of the movie but yeah I did think it was it was weird [TS]

  and a weird dynamic is like you want both of these sides to be underdogs they [TS]

  don't it's it's strange if it was a bit strange it's a it's a minor complaint [TS]

  but it is definitely one of the things I think of is the mark of a good movie is [TS]

  that the more you think about the movie the more the movie rewards you for [TS]

  thinking about it and bad movies are the kind of movies where you have to say I [TS]

  movie just don't think about it because if you think about it all you know it [TS]

  all just falls to pieces right and it doesn't work at all and I definitely [TS]

  have found myself thinking about the Star Wars movie a lot which is great but [TS]

  this is one of those moments was like don't don't think about the connection [TS]

  between these three entities too much I don't don't think about it because it [TS]

  it's it's it causes a little bit of a problem and it's not really explained so [TS]

  it's I think it's interesting that you picked up on that as as well I thought [TS]

  the character of skin [TS]

  this is asked a stormtrooper turned turned hero was also really good also [TS]

  super strong you know from that moment we see in the trailer where his head [TS]

  pops up and he looks like he's overreacting a little bit I'm thinking [TS]

  I'll know what have they done again I really liked him I really like to I [TS]

  really cared about him and that's that's the that's the most important thing is [TS]

  that you care about care about because he was I thought he put in a good [TS]

  performance there were 10 times I think he pushed the credibility of what that [TS]

  character would do under the circumstances when you go sexy and funny [TS]

  and remain [TS]

  there a few times like now you wouldn't be acting that way in these [TS]

  circumstances so that so for that reason you know he wasn't quite as a [TS]

  superlative characters say the rate character but I thought he was really [TS]

  good hit really good chemistry with the right character I'm really intrigued as [TS]

  to you know what will happen with their relationship so I thought another real [TS]

  asset to the film you know I think that I think they've done really well they're [TS]

  totally with their two most important characters on the hero side of things [TS]

  yes [TS]

  disagree a little bit because I really like the characters well I think the [TS]

  idea of having the storm trooper as as a character is is very good I like the [TS]

  role that he plays in the movie but he would he was one of the the actors were [TS]

  alike [TS]

  you're not there are a bunch of lines that he gives in the movie that I felt [TS]

  were clunky and he he was one of the major before saying something's felt a [TS]

  little bit to american and he was one of these things that there were moments [TS]

  with you you sound very American [TS]

  in a few of these scenes but a bit off again it just it's it's so hard they can [TS]

  watching movie is it so hard to pin down why things are different because [TS]

  Harrison Ford shows up in this movie and he talks and he's obviously American and [TS]

  he actually is American and it doesn't it doesn't feel that way but the guy [TS]

  playing Finn had a few lines I just feel like this is out of place that's what I [TS]

  meant when I said you wouldn't act that way a lot when he when he confronts his [TS]

  old stormtrooper boss towards the end of the film [TS]

  me now sort of that kind of calm in charge of charge I mean that was that [TS]

  was that mister that mister bay in a very jarring way that sort of punch out [TS]

  of the film for a for a few seconds so there yet that that's why wasn't you [TS]

  know that's why I said it wasn't as perfect a sort of the rain go away I [TS]

  don't remember ever being ever been now I know she's but she's Pittsburgh the [TS]

  whole way through but I think it's not even the lines that he has to deliver [TS]

  which sometimes they're hard sometimes but it's the way he delivers them it's [TS]

  it's his accent in his way of speaking feel like clunky lines and i ended up [TS]

  looking him up because I wanted to know if I think she's my suspicions about [TS]

  this I found out he's actually English he went to school in london keyes other [TS]

  person I have no idea who he is [TS]

  which for a Star Wars movie by the way is the right way to go you don't wanna [TS]

  have very obvious known characters are very obvious known actors in your Star [TS]

  Wars movie you want to find a new crop of people who are talented I think [TS]

  that's a really hard job to do [TS]

  unknowns were relative unknowns we're also really good but he is English maybe [TS]

  it was because he is obviously trying to hide his English accent in the movie [TS]

  because maybe they don't want their two main characters do have the same accent [TS]

  which is quite reasonable but I wonder if that's why some of his his lines of [TS]

  dialogue just feel really really clunky to me when he delivers them as I go [TS]

  you're you're not using a natural voice are trying to put on an accent and your [TS]

  accent sounds very American but maybe because it's not exactly American is why [TS]

  it feels off and weird sometimes so my feeling is is he was fine but i ik I [TS]

  would not say that he was great like I really like the character but I don't [TS]

  think that the actor did a perfect job with with what he was with what he was [TS]

  given speaking of people sending americans let's come under Carrie Fisher [TS]

  for a minute I don't know what's happened with her voice but she has sort [TS]

  of an odd voice now and she sounded her she sounded distractingly American to me [TS]

  like really strong I don't know what her accent is what part of america's from [TS]

  Harrison Ford lots of people have American accents and nothing of the sort [TS]

  of India's fishes Jackson her voice has changed in such a way over the years [TS]

  that she her voice really distracted me i i had real problems with with her she [TS]

  sounded character Carrie Fisher has been through quite a rough time since the [TS]

  Star Wars movies in this galaxy and that galaxy [TS]

  time so it is not surprising that her her voice sounds shockingly different [TS]

  sounds like no sound like someone who's been through a rough time it is weird [TS]

  because when she did first come on camera I found her distracting as well [TS]

  as a few you look very different and you sound very different and I find you [TS]

  quite distracting again in a way that I just I was impressed by how did not [TS]

  distracting old Harrison Ford was I was expecting it to be a bit oh god that's [TS]

  off-camera as fast as possible but I think he did a great job and then he was [TS]

  really believe I think they gave him too much action work today I think he I [TS]

  think that when he's running around on that freighter when those monsters are [TS]

  on the loose [TS]

  he's really lumbering like I'm thinking there's no way you're going to get away [TS]

  from those monsters like you are to be much longer and it's it's it's low [TS]

  hanging fruit on these people for being a bit wooden now but I think he was too [TS]

  old for some of the things he was being us today and it was a few times I was [TS]

  thinking fella don't make it don't make him run there someone going aside from [TS]

  that that monster sequence when they're on the spaceship and the monsters get [TS]

  loose which for me might be the low point of the film is that monster [TS]

  sequence totally agree that whole sequence up on that ship was was was [TS]

  definitely the the low ebb it is the low sequence because ok so what's happening [TS]

  in the movie at this point right is that our main characters have escaped with [TS]

  the Millennium Falcon and Harrison Ford finds them and brings the Millennium [TS]

  Falcon on board his ship and there is just this convoluted sequence that the [TS]

  end result is like luxuries we want movie we want Harrison Ford back on the [TS]

  Millennium Falcon [TS]

  everybody wants that harrison ford wants to get back on the Millennium Falcon she [TS]

  wants to get back on the Millennium Falcon everybody wants wants to get [TS]

  there and it seems to me like you know what you can do movie you could just [TS]

  just have Han Solo be really happy that he's found the Millennium Falcon again [TS]

  and just fly away on it just abandon his current ship which makes reference to [TS]

  his being too big for him to fly anyway because he doesn't have enough of the [TS]

  crew like just have him leave but instead there is this very long sequence [TS]

  where you know whatever it is that these people that Harrison Ford has had past [TS]

  dealings with a land on the ship and there's like an argument and then [TS]

  there's monsters escape all of this is just to get him on the Millennium Falcon [TS]

  and if I don't [TS]

  agree with you there were a few things that needed new chief to that point in [TS]

  the film I do agree that they took the wrong way and they could have done it [TS]

  much simpler with you know they could not handle of different ways they did [TS]

  have to establish that he has spent a long time away as a smuggler he's back [TS]

  on the smuggling track right and he'd been and he's been doing it for a while [TS]

  cause these double-crossed so many people so he's not just away from layer [TS]

  for 10 minutes he's like he's out on the loose again on his own he's out getting [TS]

  cigarettes or anything it's been it's been years and we also had to find a [TS]

  mechanism for word to get back to the First Republic that Han Solo has the [TS]

  Droid so there has to be someone to tell on him so someone has to know this so [TS]

  there there were a few little things that have to happen but here I could [TS]

  have been done a lot quicker and easier than this very non Star Wars moment of [TS]

  this of these monsters roaming around the ship join a global everyone up it [TS]

  was felt like pac-man frankly these these these circular monsters are [TS]

  rolling around the hallway eating everybody like the pellets and the [TS]

  monsters are exactly the right size of all of the hallways in the spaceship [TS]

  like me if you made your always two feet shorter bigger problem anywhere let's [TS]

  get to be lucky for the video games and you know what [TS]

  menu just nailed on the head that feel like a sequence that it really does it's [TS]

  also when the kind of thing that happens in movies are just really annoys me [TS]

  happens which is you see these monsters with their tentacles grab and eat all of [TS]

  these peripheral smugglers who were on board but then when one of the monsters [TS]

  gradstein our main character [TS]

  the magic of the script protects him from being eaten immediately and [TS]

  suddenly the monster decide the column full I'm just gonna run away with this [TS]

  person instead of just eating him as you would expect as you would expect the [TS]

  month to do and I always feel like that's just cheap oh you've changed the [TS]

  rules so that your main character is perfectly fine I have to say I quite I [TS]

  really quite liked again because her character is perfect in every way I love [TS]

  the fact that Ray doesn't try to fight the monster or find him like she's smart [TS]

  enough to go look at the surveillance [TS]

  and try to time it with closing the door on the tentacles I love that whole thing [TS]

  and I super love that she doesn't bother to explain that she's saved his ass when [TS]

  they get up again when it when when the door closes that was lucky and they keep [TS]

  moving I love that little that little moment because her humility as well as [TS]

  humor and yes but it's not even a humility it's a kind of pragmatism [TS]

  pragmatism we gotta keep moving right there's no time to explain this even if [TS]

  I want to take credit like not now I will talk about it later over beer or [TS]

  something but we gotta go to get out of here now that I think about it that I [TS]

  don't know if I'm reading too much into it but that doesn't have a nice occur [TS]

  later in the film doesn't know when they come and save her and he doesn't say it [TS]

  was my idea to come and save you it's chilly that tells her so it's almost [TS]

  like but thats comes back doesn't he could have he could have said Jerry want [TS]

  to save you and taken some credit but he didn't and someone else did it for him [TS]

  yeah yeah it is it is it is a little bit of an echo but I I don't know if it's [TS]

  intentional but I'm still gonna say that that whole sequence it is the part where [TS]

  it feels like ok I'm on my second watch through you know as soon as all the [TS]

  monsters escape the perfect time to go the battery back when this chase [TS]

  sequences over even the shift in Felixstowe will ship it felt like it was [TS]

  like my alien or something and it just it was it was it was a node is not part [TS]

  of it was it was a strange part 1 the sportswear imagine that people do the [TS]

  the recut you know they would cut it down to be much shorter I did like the [TS]

  Millennium Falcon going into hyperspace with the monster suck sucking on the [TS]

  front of it I couldn't wait to see what would happen as they fired up the [TS]

  engines couldn't wait to see what they did to what was going to happen to it [TS]

  that is an example of things are better when they just happen but you don't [TS]

  focus on it so that is not a dramatic shot of the monster getting just plowed [TS]

  through by the Millennium Falcon you just can't see it in the background as [TS]

  does mouth that is over the front of the ship and then it separates so you know [TS]

  what's happened you know they're just right through it [TS]

  and i just i love that kind of stuff in movies like don't over focused on it [TS]

  it's better if you just have a thing happen but don't give me all of these [TS]

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  we're gonna be alright I wasn't sure if I wasn't sure if we're going to make it [TS]

  for an hour I will I will pick something from a light side list which I have to [TS]

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  BB 8 [TS]

  much better than expected I was a little worried from the trailer like here's a [TS]

  robot that's made for toys but a holy crap is BB ate a horrible he's [TS]

  absolutely adorable in every scene and I am totally sold on the decision to have [TS]

  his little head rotate atop the ball body because when you watch it you [TS]

  realize man this so much [TS]

  animation as possible compared to something like r2d2 [TS]

  you feel a lot of emotion from r2d2 you have a sense of him as a character but [TS]

  BBA is able to remote through motion in a way that r2d2 c3po really isn't like [TS]

  they are so much more limited in their movement but his ability to swirl his [TS]

  little head around and and look in different directions it gives him such a [TS]

  character and he is no cute cute such a softy gray tell you talk when you're [TS]

  playing with Audrey when they're in the Millennium Falcon just shortly before [TS]

  Han Solo arrives there is a scene that to me it pushes the edge of things but [TS]

  but comes just short of going over my threshold for it but i i think maybe my [TS]

  favorite little sequence in the movie is Wednesday and confesses to BB 8 that [TS]

  he's not really part of the resistance gotta gotta go with me on this one I [TS]

  can't we just can't you just tell us whether rebel bases and I just think [TS]

  it's something that's really cute about that moment and I absolutely love winter [TS]

  in gives him the thumbs-up and BB 8 sticks out his little lighter thing and [TS]

  gives it a little a little his imitation of a thumbs-up that is right on the edge [TS]

  of something that I would be if the movie was done less well but it just [TS]

  came in under and I totally love that little sequence I i join the sequence I [TS]

  think the little cigarette lighter thumbs up it was stretching it and maybe [TS]

  that just just put a toke over the line for half a second game [TS]

  everything came before it gives it cause it is a funny it is a funny little [TS]

  exchange between the two is definitely a subjective moment like for you it's [TS]

  slightly over the edge and for me it is fairly under [TS]

  has barely under but it is saved by the fact that again it is so fast it is just [TS]

  a split second that he does the little later thing and pulls it right back in [TS]

  you know they focused on it too long is now this is no good but I absolutely [TS]

  love that that was that was really great [TS]

  some of the big things what did you think about new Vader Tyler ran I liked [TS]

  him I thought I like too many was menacing with his mask I thought he he [TS]

  was cool looking not over the top he looked like he looked real lucky look [TS]

  like they were trying to make something that looked amazing they were just [TS]

  making a quiet cool and standard villain when he was out of the mask and being [TS]

  like you know just the dude I thought he was close to being a little beer young [TS]

  Anakin Skywalker windy but he just he just acted well enough to get away get [TS]

  away with a chance I like to I like him as a human as well I loved his temp I [TS]

  love that he kept his lightsaber out and having his temper tantrums I like that [TS]

  about him and I like that became his like but that moment with the storm [TS]

  troopers walk around the corner and they realize he's having another one of these [TS]

  tensions in this kind of back away was like one of the funniest bits of the [TS]

  film was the thing that makes them forming as hell though the one storm [TS]

  trooper put out his hand to stop the other one in the way to give a couples [TS]

  walking along the street and wonder this is something that the other one doesn't [TS]

  because they're talking about your hand to stop the other person than just a [TS]

  little humanizing moment as you can imagine they're having some conversation [TS]

  in their head communicators or whatever it is like a way to meet a buddy this [TS]

  before we got official somewhere else right now so I did like him I'll say [TS]

  something about the the final battle about it at the end though but I like to [TS]

  do you like him I thought he was really well done and the thing that I kept [TS]

  thinking which I was amazed by any case it's just the difference that competence [TS]

  makes [TS]

  is that this new Vader is an angst evader which is exactly the thing that [TS]

  everybody complains about in the prequels that the actual Darth Vader is [TS]

  an angsty kinda teenage character and the Chi Lorraine character feels that [TS]

  he's he is in that same genre like his temper tantrums later in the movie I [TS]

  think it's interesting that when the key is in a battle and he's really upset [TS]

  he's I don't know if it's on purpose but his voice is suddenly very different [TS]

  it's like he's lost control over projecting menace rate and he's he's [TS]

  much more closer to a screeching edge of things are mostly you would expect a [TS]

  teenager to be but it works it works and I think the reason it works is because [TS]

  the actor and the costume are still able to project menace and I think the first [TS]

  time he flips out is a really key scene when when there's always in Star Wars [TS]

  like you don't want to be the officer who has to report to the darkside guy [TS]

  that's not that nobody wants that job right now it's a terrible job much [TS]

  throat choking in that situation but the first time you go through this very Star [TS]

  Wars scene where the officer has to say oh we've lost the Droid and I think it's [TS]

  great because it is stabbed wishes him is being really menacing that he he [TS]

  trashes the console in front of him and then when the officer gives this [TS]

  additional piece of information it's such a great shot of him using the force [TS]

  to do not just force choke the guy but to pull him across the room to like [TS]

  inches in front of his face and it's that kind of thing that gives it it [TS]

  gives it menace and so it feels like ok he's not just throwing a tantrum because [TS]

  things haven't gone his way is a he is furious and upset but he is also [TS]

  dangerous and I think the actor actor does it really well and I kept looking [TS]

  at the costume which I thought was a really great comparison to later because [TS]

  it's so [TS]

  slender in many ways like he he is a slender guy he doesn't have the same [TS]

  kind of huge physical presence the Darth Vader does and I think that's a really [TS]

  good choice for doing something that is similar but you have the same kind of [TS]

  Darth Vader's feel but it is it's not the same and I just thought he looked [TS]

  great in a lot of those scenes as much more slender character he's even just [TS]

  wearing like this relatively light rope that doesn't even go all the way around [TS]

  him it's just it was a great visual look and I also thought the voice was done [TS]

  very well it was his his his voice over the way he spoke [TS]

  reminiscent of Vater but not a mimicry and I think it was it was also done [TS]

  really well that it it sounded like oh this is almost like a side effect of the [TS]

  kinds of helmets that all of these people wear because I was aware that [TS]

  when he spoke for the first time very shortly after they have the the female [TS]

  general start stormtrooper talk and her voice is also distorted in kind of a [TS]

  similar way and as his I feel like it almost establishes like oh he's not [TS]

  doing the Darth Vader impression they're all just talking through helmets that [TS]

  distort their voice and maybe it's the avid audio plugin they use all of these [TS]

  people sound like this and I think that's a good choice to very soon [TS]

  here and other character who sounds somewhat similar to him like it or not [TS]

  doing a Darth Vader voice this is just what storm stormtrooper helmets are like [TS]

  and he has a custom one I love that his mass blood was a bit dinged up well as [TS]

  well like it was just the mask look lived in a distro it was it was perfect [TS]

  I was really aware of that too that there were a few dings on the on the [TS]

  front the front faceplate that this is perfect this feels like a real universe [TS]

  think this is a guy who has used this mask over the course of time and it's [TS]

  it's a real thing that has been around for a long time it is not straight from [TS]

  the prop department even though it obviously is say the new the new coaches [TS]

  are doing well what about the ok as I I mentioned I thought I was a bit [TS]

  embarrassed by chance i load times [TS]

  aside from the weird action sequence on that that spaceship I felt mostly the [TS]

  script was actually pretty good and having him not do too much again if you [TS]

  put that one action sequences side there's not much to say how many shots [TS]

  of him running around he's in there were few there are a few where he's like [TS]

  shoot his blaster and being a hero and I'm thinkin yeah when shooting your [TS]

  blaster in being a hero is very different from running really don't show [TS]

  an old man running for the most part I think that's a good decision that he he [TS]

  is there he is doing things the one that to me is over the line is when he [TS]

  doesn't even look and shoots a stormtrooper that to me was like I'm [TS]

  hitting the no buzzer on that one [TS]

  you should cut that half second because because how is that even possible right [TS]

  is he just lucky going back again to think it think about something like the [TS]

  the scene earlier in the movie when rain and Finn are escaping on new Tatooine in [TS]

  the Millennium Falcon which is a great great fight sequence and she's flying [TS]

  from the inside of one of the crash star destroyers and the gun get stuck and she [TS]

  pulls on this amazing maneuver where she know she flies through and and shuts off [TS]

  the engine at just the right moment and turns the whole ship to line up the gun [TS]

  with Thai fighter so that finding the back and shoot the gun and hit think [TS]

  that that's seen in a Star Wars movie is believable because it's conveying to you [TS]

  immediately that she is more sensitive [TS]

  no one could pull off that maneuver like Han Solo couldn't have pulled off a [TS]

  maneuver she's only able to do it because she is special I feel like a [TS]

  game that that is again like the movie is telling you something about this [TS]

  character is done really well we're as Han Solo just shooting a stormtrooper [TS]

  without looking behind his back feels like it just feels done there's no [TS]

  reason for it to happen it doesn't make any sense in the context of the movie [TS]

  and after me it's it's over the line and I would if I always get out there like [TS]

  no jeje abrams we're just gonna cut this it's it's two seconds it adds nothing [TS]

  it's not actually that funny and it's a bit out of place [TS]

  you bring up the Millennium Falcon I wasn't entirely pleased with the use of [TS]

  the Millennium Falcon I thought they got a little bit comic book cartoonish with [TS]

  it at times one of the things I like about this is a sort of feels a bit like [TS]

  it obeys the laws of physics and you know if you're if you if you if your [TS]

  plane crashes into a forest that's like bad rights and I feel like I feel at the [TS]

  Millennium Falcon survived scrapes and landing incidents that the shuttle now [TS]

  bagged up old ship so shouldn't survive and it was performing maneuvers that it [TS]

  shouldn't be performing I thought the time when Ray flew on Dzeko was such an [TS]

  amazing saying and so much fun that I kind of a kind of forgave the amazing [TS]

  nimbleness it was showing flying inside a Star Destroyer I forgave that yeah and [TS]

  and you point out showed that she said she had something special about her that [TS]

  she could do that very implausible move of turning it off and turning it on [TS]

  right before the impossibility is a plot point as opposed to just something that [TS]

  is happening whereas seconds earlier when she tries to take off and it its [TS]

  matches against the ground and then smashes into a building I agree with you [TS]

  it feels like is there physics here because I'm pretty sure that things [TS]

  should have been torn to pieces [TS]

  the landing on the sly planner and coming out of hyperspace so close to a [TS]

  plan and then landing on the planet the way they did like that just that was [TS]

  like ok this is like this is not believable I didn't I didn't like that [TS]

  and it also didn't feel necessary of a kind of saved why they did it with the [TS]

  snow planet because otherwise you landed on the snow plan it would be like what [TS]

  is then is there has been no freakiness required to get there [TS]

  the movie won some reason why they and only vacant land and this maneuver is [TS]

  the reason but it doesn't make sense when you think about it too long [TS]

  yes I I don't think like it was all this talk about how you know thank goodness [TS]

  Lucas didn't destroy the millennium pakistanis prequels and [TS]

  and James will treat it with care and respect it deserves [TS]

  I don't think it was treated with care and respect it deserves and I thought it [TS]

  became it was used to match and it was used [TS]

  into into his silly ways and I think it didn't do justice to the to the great [TS]

  lady of the skies I get I can definitely agree with you there like the crash [TS]

  landing in the forest it feels like I remember in a previous movie when ever [TS]

  so slightly bumping against the inside of a Death Star ripped off a vital [TS]

  component are we not in that same universe now we can just smash straight [TS]

  through trees and it's fine it just seemed it does seem a little bit does [TS]

  seem a little bit too much but speaking speaking of for sensitivity there is one [TS]

  thing in the movie that then I really feel very strongly about is just a [TS]

  terrible terrible mistake and it is near the end of his fans lightsaber battle [TS]

  with our new character Tyler on yet and when I first watched the movie I really [TS]

  didn't like this scene and I thought maybe I'm being too hard on it let me [TS]

  watch a closer and in the second watching and I hate it even more on the [TS]

  second rewatching I think nothing about that scene makes any sense it shouldn't [TS]

  happen it's bad for both characters I just I love that lightsaber seems so [TS]

  much is just the two of them in the forest before so this is yes this is [TS]

  Vinh vs Chi lo ran in the forest its snowing which by the way on the [TS]

  lightsaber fights in the in the snow in forest beautiful scene I love that they [TS]

  get just it looks gorgeous let me say that is it's it's phenomenal but [TS]

  haha why on earth can fin use a lightsaber competently it again against [TS]

  someone who's already shown as he's pretty handy with the full yeah I know [TS]

  he's injured by getting shot by chilly but it was still I think the movie was [TS]

  trying to do because there was one done seen which actually makes me think of [TS]

  indiana Jones which is the first time venues [TS]

  the lightsaber is whether they visited the the man's character there on that [TS]

  forest planets and the storm troopers have landed and he's out there he's [TS]

  unarmed he has only the lightsaber [TS]

  ok that's reasonable he's going to have to use a lightsaber in a situation [TS]

  because he doesn't have a gun fair enough so he goes out to the field he [TS]

  kills a stormtrooper but then another storm trooper in this in this moment [TS]

  which made me laugh a little bit wasn't supposed to this other stormtrooper sees [TS]

  him recognizes him goes trader and does this weird like throw down gesture where [TS]

  he just drops whatever the heck is he's carrying can't even tell what it's [TS]

  supposed to be on screen [TS]

  and then he pulls out some kind of big electric baton to like wait a minute why [TS]

  isn't this like Indiana Jones why don't you [TS]

  stormtrooper just shoot him you like you have a gun while he's not going to be [TS]

  able to deflect votes like Luke Skywalker yes he's not he's not a Jedi [TS]

  you know he's not a Jedi [TS]

  that fight scene was so dumb it's also really confusing because it was about [TS]

  selling Tony Abbott what is this what is this weapon this storm trooper has that [TS]

  is a melee weapon that light sabers can't cut through that you have this [TS]

  weapon that is can go up against a lightsaber ok that's very interesting [TS]

  and quite notable for thing that you're just going to casually have happen but [TS]

  what I think the movie was trying to establish their [TS]

  in the dumbest way possible had for some bizarre reason storm troopers have long [TS]

  sword combat training that this is a thing that they have like I think that's [TS]

  what the movie is trying to establish as setting it up for the lightsaber scene [TS]

  at the end low will call me dumb maybe I did need some exposition their way he [TS]

  says boy that's or training I've had over cause I completely missed that I [TS]