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H. I. #65: Operation Zeus


  I'm gonna be like the old folks home [TS]

  telling people who don't care about this [TS]

  podcast i used to do in the one time I [TS]

  got a quiz question right [TS]

  great i want to start with a listener my [TS]

  00 bold move [TS]

  bold move you're gonna open up with that [TS]

  huh okay all right go for it and we've [TS]

  already agreed this was not allowed to [TS]

  be kept from the show haven't yeah sort [TS]

  of sort of sort of sediment in formal [TS]

  and informal agreement that it will be [TS]

  cut from the show because you spent a [TS]

  good 30 minutes searching for it but go [TS]

  ahead go ahead [TS]

  are you ready dear brady and cgpgrey i [TS]

  am a sheriff's deputy in the US and I [TS]

  spend a lot of time in the squad car to [TS]

  keep saying i listen to the podcast on [TS]

  my fine now he says he has two stories [TS]

  about unique circumstances where he's [TS]

  listened to the podcast [TS]

  the first one is good but i'm going to [TS]

  go straight to the second one because [TS]

  the second one is great [TS]

  last night I had arrested a person and [TS]

  was taking him to jail normally ask them [TS]

  what radio station they want to listen [TS]

  to because I'm a nice guy [TS]

  this individual was particularly road [TS]

  and belligerent so i put on what I [TS]

  wanted to listen to [TS]

  I can officially confirm that a person [TS]

  was put into handcuffs and forced to [TS]

  listen to Brady's complained about the [TS]

  Apple watch for a good half hour against [TS]

  their wheel so there you go [TS]

  handcuffed in the back of the squad car [TS]

  forced to listen to me rant about Apple [TS]

  watches for half an hour [TS]

  I think that person should get a [TS]

  discount on their jail with him for at [TS]

  time served [TS]

  oh my god oh my god the the fact that it [TS]

  is you complaining about the Apple watch [TS]

  makes that perfect right like trying to [TS]

  think of a random segments that that a [TS]

  random person could probably care system [TS]

  for every pretty complains of epic Apple [TS]

  watch [TS]

  that's amazing absolutely everything i [TS]

  could just imagine going all right I'm [TS]

  sorry officer [TS]

  I'll never do it again I confess what do [TS]

  you want to know what are you pointing [TS]

  that I'm going to turn everybody in [TS]

  their gastric that that is a fantastic [TS]

  listener email and we can say that is a [TS]

  segment with keeping isn't it I promise [TS]

  you won't be coming but like I said I I [TS]

  i keep them if they're interesting and [TS]

  that was that was that was a really [TS]

  good 1i like that so we have not spoken [TS]

  for many many moons now and you're one [TS]

  over the world having adventures what [TS]

  one moon [TS]

  yeah exactly one month not many moons [TS]

  one moon it doesn't have quite the same [TS]

  impact if I say we have not spoken for [TS]

  one moon [TS]

  yeah I know but these slanders I [TS]

  understand that I understand that it [TS]

  doesn't have the same impact within it [TS]

  is also wildly wrong [TS]

  someday someday Brady we may actually [TS]

  take a break from the podcast for many [TS]

  many moons but that day was not this day [TS]

  we haven't spoken in exactly one moon so [TS]

  so no hyperbole here you don't need to [TS]

  make it sound like it's been a long time [TS]

  but we have not spoken for many earth [TS]

  rotations that doesn't have the same [TS]

  poetry to it though as many moons now [TS]

  what now you're mad during my case I [TS]

  gotta give you a hard time radio i got [TS]

  to give you Heart era say I didn't even [TS]

  know what it's I mean we haven't got a [TS]

  whole lot to talk about from the last [TS]

  episode because the last episode was the [TS]

  quiz and this you want to tell people [TS]

  again how great you were forgetting that [TS]

  jeff john question right I do think [TS]

  about it from time to time and it makes [TS]

  me smile i will i will remember that [TS]

  moment for the whole rest of my life [TS]

  that was that will be the best pub quiz [TS]

  moment I ever have was kidding that [TS]

  cricketer question right well it was a [TS]

  great move by it now for new elements [TS]

  have been named on the periodic table [TS]

  gray also we spoke about this awhile ago [TS]

  and we were throwing out some names and [TS]

  so yes yes [TS]

  do you remember what we threw out I [TS]

  actually can I can't remember exactly [TS]

  although one of them i got one of them [TS]

  was right because you know I i I'm not [TS]

  be in the know when it comes to the [TS]

  periodic table in case you don't know [TS]

  ya know you've got you've got insider [TS]

  information there i only remember we [TS]

  discussed the possibility of of fine [TS]

  medium and I think we just remember we [TS]

  discussed that because people complained [TS]

  that we had brought it up once before [TS]

  two years ago on the podcast people like [TS]

  now you've been to think twice it's a [TS]

  duplicate content no good thumbs down [TS]

  remember people complaining that we had [TS]

  mentioned finding him twice and that is [TS]

  all that I can I can remember I tell you [TS]

  I if that person doesn't like hearing [TS]

  the same story for me twice they [TS]

  definitely would not like being married [TS]

  to me [TS]

  but i can tell you we did talk about the [TS]

  possibility that one would be named [TS]

  after Japan [TS]

  oh that's right yes yes we did the [TS]

  podium or something was that was that [TS]

  was well they ended up going for nihon [TS]

  IAM meconium this is a hundred and [TS]

  thirteen we also discussed Moscow and [TS]

  that has happened we have Moscow viam [TS]

  that's good i like the sound of that [TS]

  415 and then we've been here we get a [TS]

  bit more freestar 417 we have 10 asain [TS]

  Tennessee because this is a halogen [TS]

  obviously obviously goes down that [TS]

  column with chlorine and all these other [TS]

  halogens and therefore has to end with a [TS]

  newly and Tennessee is marking the [TS]

  Oakridge facility [TS]

  hmm where a lot where a lot of work is [TS]

  done i think i think i can get used to [TS]

  that one tennis scene then we have an [TS]

  even more exotic one we have organ ehsan [TS]

  but ok with 400 on a time with ugliness [TS]

  on for well its got the o/n ending [TS]

  because this is on the insensitive [TS]

  column with the noble gases and it's [TS]

  named after a person who's involved with [TS]

  although the Russian science [TS]

  what's-his-name professor Yuri [TS]

  organization who are who i will also [TS]

  point out is still alive and it's very [TS]

  unusual for an element to be named after [TS]

  someone still alive [TS]

  it's only happened once before [TS]

  officially so this is us this is a [TS]

  second time [TS]

  who was the ones before meanwhile I've [TS]

  glen seaborg that you take away all my [TS]

  good photo for future quizzes here but [TS]

  anyway here we go now i will quickly [TS]

  point out these names are not a hundred [TS]

  percent official we have a consultation [TS]

  period now movie but and in a previous [TS]

  consultation period a symbol has been [TS]

  changed but never a name so i think [TS]

  we're pretty good for the names barring [TS]

  some kind of catastrophe [TS]

  mm well that's very interesting very [TS]

  interesting i like i like the new names [TS]

  overall i think that i think they sound [TS]

  good and yeah let's get some more names [TS]

  on that periodic table can you remember [TS]

  them can you repeat them to me haha [TS]

  quick immediately got because I just I I [TS]

  messed up the first one the first time [TS]

  so it's in my brain wrong it's the [TS]

  podium now it's not Honea meconium ok so [TS]

  the money [TS]

  misko viam tennis seen yes and ask Lou [TS]

  ronit ron paschal or electron that's [TS]

  what the last 10 but no but that would [TS]

  have been awesome and it's also an [TS]

  excellent article for the episode but [TS]

  the fit the question i have is i mean [TS]

  one of your claims to fame gray is your [TS]

  memorization of the periodic table are [TS]

  you gonna update this party trick [TS]

  are you gonna learn these new element [TS]

  names or are you just going to be frozen [TS]

  in time as kind of the high school [TS]

  University guy who remember the periodic [TS]

  table back then but hasn't updated his [TS]

  knowledge i'm gonna be frozen in time [TS]

  because i never updated it for I think [TS]

  it was wherever the heck it was at the [TS]

  time I never updated it there was one I [TS]

  knew that I was supposed to and I never [TS]

  added it's out now I'm not I'm there's [TS]

  not a party trick that I renew and it's [TS]

  a party trick that I get wrong [TS]

  the older and older I get and the [TS]

  further and further I get from the [TS]

  person who used to have that memorized [TS]

  so now i will not be updating a my [TS]

  repertoire [TS]

  ok can you give me the correct name of [TS]

  the last 1i I was gonna be in my head is [TS]

  Oscar it drawn forever unless you tell [TS]

  me I'll get next song honest on which [TS]

  i'm not a big fan of ours and then we're [TS]

  going to respect where Russian business [TS]

  sounds a bit like a made-up planet named [TS]

  okay yeah yeah I know the organisms are [TS]

  coming [TS]

  that sounds a bit like made a plan that [TS]

  name to me I mean I'm not in love the [TS]

  Tennessee neither if I'm honest but I [TS]

  out i might learn to live with that but [TS]

  anyway but who am I to say until I've [TS]

  until i synthesized as an element on my [TS]

  own I guess I'm just gonna have to live [TS]

  with what other people decided names get [TS]

  to it i look forward to [TS]

  radium Audrey mhmm lutetium if they're [TS]

  going to name an element after me would [TS]

  it be Brady amor her rhenium I like [TS]

  Brady mhmm i like radium yeah was it [TS]

  with you that time we're in the car that [TS]

  time I had some discussion about if you [TS]

  could have anything named after you what [TS]

  what would it be [TS]

  I don't like besides a penguin of course [TS]

  right what would be the most awesome [TS]

  thing to have named after you [TS]

  you know if you were quite egotistical [TS]

  or just or even if you weren't just if [TS]

  something was going to be named after [TS]

  you what would be a cool thing to have [TS]

  would you like that's an interesting [TS]

  question posing for the moment that [TS]

  you're a total narcissist because yep [TS]

  the thing that pops into my head [TS]

  immediately is our way that the most [TS]

  amazing thing would be to have an entire [TS]

  your Galaxy named after you but if [TS]

  you're a narcissist while in theory [TS]

  that's great people just don't come [TS]

  across that very often people don't [TS]

  don't mention galaxies and discussion [TS]

  very often [TS]

  now what you would actually want to [TS]

  something that people are going to come [TS]

  across a lot like yeah you get one of [TS]

  the continents renamed after you [TS]

  what about the moon and paper like at [TS]

  night people sitting on a bench looking [TS]

  for the sky guy look at the Brady isn't [TS]

  it gorgeous tonight level when it's a [TS]

  full Brady if you can't get a named [TS]

  after you at least carve your name with [TS]

  the evil lazer on on the surface of the [TS]

  Moon that's what you could do just write [TS]

  your name on there that'd be perfect [TS]

  the highest mountain in the world would [TS]

  be quite good too of course here we go [TS]

  you can rename Everest after Brady wow I [TS]

  mean at least I've seen a George Everest [TS]

  never even saw the mountain right of [TS]

  course everybody knows that that's a [TS]

  famous piece of information that [TS]

  everybody knows no he never even saw the [TS]

  mountain he didn't and it was pronounced [TS]

  evaced even wrists really yeah well one [TS]

  of the reasons he didn't want to be [TS]

  named after him as he thought people [TS]

  would struggle with the pronunciation [TS]

  and so it has come to pass and so it is [TS]

  and so it is anyway I don't even know [TS]

  why which why we took our kids elements [TS]

  i didn't even know why i was talking [TS]

  about having the net the moon named [TS]

  after me but I remember I imagine you [TS]

  would just want some model of iphone or [TS]

  something like you know if you seen the [TS]

  new iphone gray what about a program a [TS]

  programming language grey would be great [TS]

  name for a programming language [TS]

  yeah but I'm not the total narcissist so [TS]

  I'm happy to just have it be my name [TS]

  yeah we're just pretending we're not i [TS]

  don't actually want the moon named after [TS]

  me is I'm not really sure are you sure [TS]

  that you don't really want the moon [TS]

  named after you because I think you [TS]

  might take it [TS]

  I think you might take it was offered to [TS]

  you on a plate in fact the longer this [TS]

  conversation goes on the more i feel [TS]

  like i'm fairly certain we've actually [TS]

  revisited this exact point somewhere in [TS]

  the past on the podcast about naming the [TS]

  moon after you [TS]

  it's all right that's outrageous that's [TS]

  outrageous and are and how dare you [TS]

  suggest people go to changed or more [TS]

  exactly yeah I i I'm quite happy with [TS]

  the Marines current knife [TS]

  ok good luck with everything that i love [TS]

  i love you are implicit approval or [TS]

  disapproval of everything in the whole [TS]

  universe when this comes along it's like [TS]

  I don't know the moon [TS]

  yeah I give that a thumbs up these [TS]

  element name maybe I don't write so [TS]

  everybody is petitioning you cried about [TS]

  what do you think about this we call [TS]

  this object to chair how do you feel [TS]

  about that sir brady and you go [TS]

  mmmm yes chair is a good name for this [TS]

  object yes good waving them by next next [TS]

  oh this thing what is this this is a [TS]

  mouse and yes that is a good name for [TS]

  this creature was good right next next [TS]

  and that's what you like to do all day [TS]

  but then very occasionally someone will [TS]

  bring something before me like copyright [TS]

  infringement and i'll be know exactly i [TS]

  I'm exercising my veto on that one and [TS]

  we have renaming it LOL i love this it's [TS]

  like everything is coming together in [TS]

  this moment i guess like I'm getting a [TS]

  little window into your conception of [TS]

  yourself [TS]

  his opponent look at this is why break [TS]

  like the name things but be careful [TS]

  because because you and I laughs and [TS]

  that we go along with this check but [TS]

  there is a small number of people who [TS]

  listen to the podcast who then think [TS]

  like I seriously I'm serious [TS]

  and yeah like you do like you do there's [TS]

  a small number of people who listen to [TS]

  the podcast you listen to the podcast [TS]

  and you're going to be listening to me [TS]

  saying this right now later and thinking [TS]

  you know he has a point as an excellent [TS]

  point [TS]

  okay speaking of pretentious and pompous [TS]

  names huh [TS]

  let's talk about this check list of [TS]

  yours that you posted to Twitter quite a [TS]

  while back where you gave people an [TS]

  insight into what you call all your [TS]

  projects and they have a night and they [TS]

  have all these names like the blazing [TS]

  phoenix and Apollo and the andromeda [TS]

  strain not i have never seen a more [TS]

  self-important ridiculous list of names [TS]

  for mundane work than the names before [TS]

  your projects naming project is fun [TS]

  living project is totally fun [TS]

  tell me some of the projects on your [TS]

  list at the moment and be honest ok ya [TS]

  up mia let me pull up flip list i'll [TS]

  tell you what like my current ones are [TS]

  because of our listeners who don't who [TS]

  are not aware of what Brady is talking [TS]

  about [TS]

  i posted a while back a screenshot of my [TS]

  to-do list when I was trying to grind [TS]

  through a few things before this very [TS]

  long months of travel that oman and so I [TS]

  posted it did seem it seems to get under [TS]

  Brady skin because i like to use code [TS]

  names for the various projects that i [TS]

  work on in my system and at the time on [TS]

  that list I think I had something that's [TS]

  right i had like project Gemini was on [TS]

  that list and project Gemini was the [TS]

  video that I I last put out which was [TS]

  the the you are two twin brain [TS]

  phenomenon video and so I think like a [TS]

  project Gemini that's an excellent code [TS]

  name for that video okay alright looking [TS]

  at my list right now usually I have at [TS]

  least three of these things I just this [TS]

  morning cancelled one called Project [TS]

  narcissus which was something i was [TS]

  going to do but i decided it was no good [TS]

  but i still have two active projects one [TS]

  is called Project pinion and the other [TS]

  one is called Project skyward [TS]

  so those are those are the two that are [TS]

  still actively in development first [TS]

  things first [TS]

  why do you have to give these things [TS]

  code names ok first code names are fun [TS]

  our code name is not fun breeding yeah [TS]

  they're fun yeah you can see the totally [TS]

  fun and secondly i do actually have a [TS]

  reason that i use code names for a bunch [TS]

  of the projects that i work on because [TS]

  you're weird and paranoid [TS]

  no we're okay and were paranoid [TS]

  I don't even understand how paranoid [TS]

  fits into this howdy how are you [TS]

  envisioning me being paranoid given my [TS]

  project code names [TS]

  well I think you're white paper going to [TS]

  find out what you're working on and you [TS]

  give them code names so that people [TS]

  can't find out what you're working on [TS]

  because someone's gonna jump out from [TS]

  behind a pillar and smack you over the [TS]

  head and hack your phone and take all [TS]

  your ideas [TS]

  okay well first of all I don't think [TS]

  that's an unreasonable concern that had [TS]

  someone is taking ideas to dry [TS]

  I think that's that falls under the [TS]

  category of not paranoid when you are [TS]

  YouTube creator so yeah I have to keep [TS]

  project secret obviously obviously they [TS]

  need to be kept secret because the hand [TS]

  because the hamburger was waitin around [TS]

  the corner and he's like knots trying to [TS]

  steal your videos and you never know you [TS]

  never know opening get no not paranoid [TS]

  totally reasonable and then the second [TS]

  thing is i have a a practical reason for [TS]

  using code names which is [TS]

  i'm working on a video there's two ways [TS]

  i'm tracking what's occurring I have a [TS]

  huge template in OmniFocus you know it's [TS]

  like 80 items long at this point which [TS]

  is all of the steps to move a video from [TS]

  beginning to end and then i also have a [TS]

  series of dropbox folders and files that [TS]

  are related to that project and some of [TS]

  those files and folders need to be [TS]

  shared with other people and so what I [TS]

  used to run into was this problem of I [TS]

  used to just call my projects the title [TS]

  that I was thinking the video was going [TS]

  to be so I would have called something [TS]

  like the last 10 project you are to [TS]

  raipur project humans need not apply a [TS]

  project whatever right but the problem [TS]

  there is that since I spent a long time [TS]

  on these things over a period of a long [TS]

  time I almost always end up changing the [TS]

  title right like the original title that [TS]

  i'm thinking of ends ends up not being [TS]

  the final title and so in my whole [TS]

  system every time I would change the [TS]

  title it would mean having to change all [TS]

  of the references to that in my [TS]

  OmniFocus project template system and [TS]

  much more of a problem is that meant [TS]

  that all of the files that i was using [TS]

  in dropbox that were related to this if [TS]

  they had a title like you are too dot md [TS]

  as the text file that i'm working on if [TS]

  i change that title in the file it [TS]

  breaks everybody that that file is [TS]

  shared with and so if i send something [TS]

  off to an expert and then it comes back [TS]

  like they want to go review it later if [TS]

  i change the title in the meantime then [TS]

  that link is going to be broken [TS]

  they're not going to be able to see it [TS]

  so this way if I just name it gemini dot [TS]

  md instead of actually naming it the [TS]

  title i have in my mind like oh I know [TS]

  what this is Gemini is just the project [TS]

  that i'm working on for this video i can [TS]

  share out that file and everything stays [TS]

  the same so I don't have to keep [TS]

  changing it around so i have a very [TS]

  practical reason for doing this and also [TS]

  it's fun [TS]

  so there you go Brady totally reasonable [TS]

  care i'm sorry I asked now so basically [TS]

  in basically I could I could have [TS]

  answered this question without asking [TS]

  you the actual answer to the question is [TS]

  why does gray have pompous code names [TS]

  for his projects is a combination of two [TS]

  things [TS]

  his paranoia and his overly convoluted [TS]

  computer system here uses to work on the [TS]

  it's not overly convoluted it's entirely [TS]

  appropriate to the task at hand [TS]

  ok ok now it's just snow yeah it's so [TS]

  frustrating for the last thing in the [TS]

  world that i want to have is an overly [TS]

  convoluted system i want to have an [TS]

  appropriate system and that's exactly [TS]

  what i have [TS]

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  mrs. in this particular case are correct [TS]

  how did you find that out was that [TS]

  through operation Zeus had how were you [TS]

  able to obtain this information I [TS]

  subcontracted out the Hamburglar to spy [TS]

  on it was going on like yeah there you [TS]

  go i have got ya sa isn't that's what [TS]

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  yes I never know what to call it because [TS]

  people it's like a five but it's not [TS]

  five and all that stuff [TS]

  it's a small 1i just got the SE yeah so [TS]

  I'm i am incredibly curious as always [TS]

  with these things about how do you feel [TS]

  about it and keep in mind that as you [TS]

  are talking about your Apple products [TS]

  there may very well be someone in the [TS]

  back of a police car right now who is [TS]

  listening to this conversation [TS]

  first of all let me say to that person [TS]

  in the back of the police car what are [TS]

  you doing with your life you got to get [TS]

  things in order [TS]

  come on you're better than that look at [TS]

  that was like the words that was the [TS]

  worst pep talk ever for some criminal [TS]

  wasn't like what about whatever is what [TS]

  do you say to someone who's like you [TS]

  know in that situation maybe like we [TS]

  have immediately jumped into the Brady [TS]

  solves all of the problems in the world [TS]

  section of the podcast for very has just [TS]

  regret addressed are criminals and posed [TS]

  the question i'm sure they have never [TS]

  heard what are you doing with your life [TS]

  guys after tennis around everything was [TS]

  going wrong and then one time I was in [TS]

  the back of this place Karen he played [TS]

  some podcast and some australian guy [TS]

  just said he just asked me what I was [TS]

  doing and suddenly I thought what am i [TS]

  doing [TS]

  yeah when from then on you know yeah and [TS]

  from there I moved off and you don't go [TS]

  into cancer research and here i am now [TS]

  accepting my Nobel Prize the whole [TS]

  because of breathing at my phone so well [TS]

  you did warn me and I did feel the first [TS]

  sort of few minutes when i got up i was [TS]

  a bit freaked out by how big and crowded [TS]

  the icons felt and I feel a bit like a [TS]

  bit fisher-price you know I felt a bit [TS]

  childish you on the bigger screen the [TS]

  icons to lay out more nicely written but [TS]

  I got used to very quickly and i have to [TS]

  say i am pleased all the things I was [TS]

  concerned about like size of screen for [TS]

  viewing things [TS]

  have proven to not bother me in the [TS]

  slightest and I i really like slipping [TS]

  the smaller phone into my pocket I like [TS]

  the feeling of walking out the front [TS]

  door and just sipping a nice small phone [TS]

  into my jeans that sounds really sounds [TS]

  really inappropriate but that's better [TS]

  anyway there you go make of that what [TS]

  you know and i think it didn't sound [TS]

  inappropriate at all until you drew [TS]

  attention to how inappropriate is hiding [TS]

  it was and now and now we're sorry I'm [TS]

  sorry I'm sorry people of the internet [TS]

  and I like the size and I don't know if [TS]

  this is coincidental because I didn't [TS]

  like you know setup controls and do it [TS]

  scientifically like probably someone [TS]

  that you would have but I have noticed I [TS]

  i have got a lot less pain in the back [TS]

  of my hand [TS]

  interesting i was convinced I was having [TS]

  pain in my hand that was jutsu I [TS]

  actually thought it was due to maybe my [TS]

  mouse or my wacom tablet or something I [TS]

  don't know but since getting the new [TS]

  phone i have not had that problem so I'm [TS]

  claiming it is because I'm not [TS]

  stretching around my phone and having [TS]

  all the problems that i was having with [TS]

  the the larger screen so I'm saying [TS]

  win-win smaller phone good stuff i am [TS]

  noticing my battery runs out a little [TS]

  more quickly than I would like but I had [TS]

  that problem with the bigger final two [TS]

  so i just think i use my phone too much [TS]

  and don't charge it often enough so i'm [TS]

  not blaming small phone for that i am [TS]

  saying small phone for the wind [TS]

  smartphone for the win excellent [TS]

  excellent i was the idea that use a bit [TS]

  of young people jog in there you know [TS]

  there you go hey cool kids are you guys [TS]

  up to [TS]

  did I do that inappropriately know that [TS]

  was perfectly fine again if if you had [TS]

  just drawn no attention to it you would [TS]

  have been fine you would have been able [TS]

  to slide right by our no no I think I [TS]

  think you're awkward pause do enough [TS]

  attention to it i am very glad to hear [TS]

  that you like your new phone at that was [TS]

  thinking some of our private [TS]

  conversations I was encouraging you to [TS]

  get it and you had said to me several [TS]

  times that you were convinced that [TS]

  you're bigger phone was giving you some [TS]

  hand strain using it and of all of the [TS]

  people i know you were probably the one [TS]

  who was complaining most about the new [TS]

  now what is it two years old iphone 6 [TS]

  sighs phone [TS]

  like you just never seemed happy with it [TS]

  at all right from the beginning so I'm [TS]

  I'm really happy that you have [TS]

  downgraded to the smaller size like I [TS]

  have no not downgraded its not [TS]

  downgraded I've downsized you downsize [TS]

  you downsides to the smaller firm [TS]

  downgraded I'm terribly sorry I didn't [TS]

  mean to I didn't mean to express it like [TS]

  that I mean technically it is a slower [TS]

  phone it has you know a few things that [TS]

  are technically worse than the six but [TS]

  i'm imagining that you didn't even [TS]

  notice what any of those things were and [TS]

  so you're perfectly fine and i will feel [TS]

  no need to point them out to you right [TS]

  are you still happy with the smaller [TS]

  fine since you made that downsize [TS]

  downgrade down whatever down find [TS]

  ticking down phone i like that down [TS]

  phones though is the verb here [TS]

  oh yeah I know I still totally love it [TS]

  and the thing that has been interesting [TS]

  to me is I wanted to know how it would [TS]

  hold up on a very intensive travel [TS]

  period when a much more likely to be [TS]

  using the phone quite intensely and I [TS]

  got a battery case for it for this trip [TS]

  but I would have done that with any size [TS]

  phone that i've had i've always felt [TS]

  that as soon as you use the phone a [TS]

  little bit intensely you cannot count on [TS]

  the battery to make it through an entire [TS]

  day no matter what you're doing so i am [TS]

  actually extra loving the small phone [TS]

  precisely because i have a battery case [TS]

  on it now and it's like well if I had a [TS]

  bigger phone and had the battery case i [TS]

  would just be so aware of this thing in [TS]

  my pocket all the time but the little [TS]

  phone with a little battery cases like [TS]

  this is perfect like I'm guaranteed to [TS]

  be able to make it to the end of the day [TS]

  no matter what I do no matter how [TS]

  intensely am using the phone to do [TS]

  driving directions and mac map lookups [TS]

  and ordering goobers and all this kind [TS]

  of stuff so i have to say i am totally [TS]

  in love with the little phone and now [TS]

  doubly so on intensive travel periods [TS]

  like to be able to have the smaller [TS]

  device is just so much so much bigger of [TS]

  a win than having a slightly larger [TS]

  device so I'm really happy about it and [TS]

  I hope that people like you [TS]

  the people like me keep buying this [TS]

  little phone and so that they update it [TS]

  sooner than they otherwise would like [TS]

  that's my big hope so because i'm going [TS]

  to promote to everybody everybody out [TS]

  there going [TS]

  by the smaller phone so we can get a [TS]

  better smaller phone sooner that's a [TS]

  that's what I'm hoping for [TS]

  hmm i wonder what the sales figures a [TS]

  lot i'd love to know i would like to [TS]

  know what to tell us if we ask nicely [TS]

  i'll send an email to Tim yeah she [TS]

  listened to the podcast we love to know [TS]

  the sales numbers of course it does [TS]

  of course he does he's code Tim good [TS]

  point good point that how that works [TS]

  everybody who listen to the podcast is [TS]

  named him and then also everyone who is [TS]

  named him by definition also listen to [TS]

  the podcast yeah that's how that works [TS]

  there i say no floor that luxury right [TS]

  perfect nailed it [TS]

  speaking of phones i have installed a [TS]

  new app onto my find that being snapchat [TS]

  ok I saw you [TS]

  this is this is now where i will i will [TS]

  sound like the old and out of touch [TS]

  person going through for the win [TS]

  uh I saw you installing the snapchat [TS]

  onto your phone and then talking about [TS]

  your snapchatting and I saw this on [TS]

  Twitter and it was one of those moments [TS]

  where I was just thinking I know nothing [TS]

  about this i have no ability to [TS]

  understand what's going on I don't [TS]

  understand the snapchat and i would like [TS]

  you to explain the snapchat to me Brady [TS]

  because everybody seems to be talking [TS]

  about it everywhere I go I see ghosts [TS]

  and people discussing the snapchat and [TS]

  asking if I'm on snapchat which I'm not [TS]

  well great let me let me tell you this [TS]

  if not knowing about snapchat makes you [TS]

  feel old [TS]

  installing snapshot on your phone will [TS]

  make you feel even colder [TS]

  ok is it not like installing other apps [TS]

  is that not how that well no no the [TS]

  actual installation is ok but once you [TS]

  open that I swear I have never felt more [TS]

  out of touch with technology and the [TS]

  youth of today and when I tried to [TS]

  understand how to work snatcher [TS]

  I honestly felt like a bear or and get a [TS]

  brick trying to make like I was just [TS]

  like I was scraping the screen and [TS]

  shaking my phone it is pressing all [TS]

  these icons that I had no idea what they [TS]

  meant those symbols i didn't even know [TS]

  existed [TS]

  I felt like an alien had given me the [TS]

  finest in here go ahead make a call and [TS]

  I was like I can't even unlock this [TS]

  thing with the device for the first time [TS]

  in my life I was going on to like Google [TS]

  and YouTube and putting in search terms [TS]

  like how to snapchat [TS]

  what I had no idea it was unbelievable [TS]

  it was built it was actually two [TS]

  pressing it was depressing anyway that [TS]

  little piece of information right there [TS]

  right going to google and type of how do [TS]

  i do the snapchat it's like it's just [TS]

  you just know that you have lost before [TS]

  you have even begun [TS]

  it's like when you doing it's just over [TS]

  haha I was one step from going to a [TS]

  bookshop and trying to buy like a [TS]

  dummy's guide or something so what I'm [TS]

  hearing here is that you might not be [TS]

  the best person to explain the snapchat [TS]

  to me [TS]

  well no I didn't give up either existed [TS]

  ok and i don't i don't know many people [TS]

  who use that despite the fact it's huge [TS]

  and more people use it and Twitter and [TS]

  all that which is why I thought I need [TS]

  to have a look at this thing I don't [TS]

  know many people who use the only person [TS]

  who's there is a good friend destiny of [TS]

  smartereveryday Fame who is only loves [TS]

  it and use it all the time and he's a [TS]

  real disciple of snapchat I had figured [TS]

  out how to use it before I contacted him [TS]

  because I couldn't contact him and just [TS]

  say like you know what does that blue [TS]

  button main so I i I'd kind of learn to [TS]

  use it and then I contacted him and he [TS]

  gave me a little pep talk and told me [TS]

  why it was great and I am I am now using [TS]

  it i've been using it for two weeks [TS]

  maybe i'm not exactly sure who i am [TS]

  called Brady Haran all one word on [TS]

  snapchat if you want to go and hang with [TS]

  me and if I ever in and you never know [TS]

  you might see all sorts of embarrassing [TS]

  things as I accidentally take photos at [TS]

  my nostrils and things like that but I [TS]

  now I now i'm using it so i can comment [TS]

  on what i think about it before you go [TS]

  any further because I think you might [TS]

  not realize how literally nothing I [TS]

  understand about snapchat I don't even [TS]

  know is this a messaging service like [TS]

  Twitter or is it like like a private [TS]

  messaging service like I message or is [TS]

  it like a facebook i known i know [TS]

  nothing [TS]

  please explain i would say it is a [TS]

  combination of I message and twitter i [TS]

  would say it emerges it's somewhere [TS]

  between those two [TS]

  ok I'm it's really hard to explain a lot [TS]

  from scratches and it's like saying you [TS]

  know what is blue but it's quite hot [TS]

  but using Twitter and and I messages as [TS]

  a reference points are probably not a [TS]

  bad not bad way to go [TS]

  so they're kind of multiple ways to use [TS]

  it ok at like there are multiple ways to [TS]

  use Twitter so you get you can have like [TS]

  a public before we come on to like the [TS]

  actual messages in the content let's [TS]

  just talk about the delivery of the [TS]

  content and when it comes to the [TS]

  delivery of the content they seem to be [TS]

  these two main ways you can sort of [TS]

  create a publicly visible stream that's [TS]

  called your story and you could put [TS]

  things on that through the day like I [TS]

  look I woke up this morning and here's [TS]

  my bacon and eggs and i took the dog for [TS]

  a walk and here's a cute picture of [TS]

  audrey and now i'm doing some work and [TS]

  now i'm feeding the chickens and anyone [TS]

  can go and look at this story if they [TS]

  sort of have added you and you know [TS]

  subscribe to whatever you want to call [TS]

  it ok so people can follow you like on [TS]

  Twitter and follower public stream of [TS]

  things that you're posting ok yes oh yes [TS]

  so you could go to snapchat and say I [TS]

  don't want anything to do with strangers [TS]

  but I want them to be able to see what [TS]

  i'm doing and you could just post things [TS]

  all day to your story [TS]

  Lou and I do that I'll talk about talk [TS]

  about that again in a minute so I have [TS]

  got a story through the day that people [TS]

  can watch and they can see that [TS]

  literally can't see me you know walking [TS]

  the dogs and all the different things I [TS]

  do in one of my incredibly exciting days [TS]

  or maybe it's more interesting fun you [TS]

  know blowing stuff up with Neil in the [TS]

  chemistry lab okay but question [TS]

  these are photos that you are then [TS]

  posting this is not this is not like a [TS]

  periscope live broadcast or can you do [TS]

  that i have no idea i don't know about [TS]

  any live component but they are photos [TS]

  and video [TS]

  okay great I'll concentrate on the [TS]

  content at the moment i'll just continue [TS]

  on with the delivery because the other [TS]

  way that things are delivered are like [TS]

  personal messages direct messages and [TS]

  these can lead to an individual they [TS]

  could I could just send a picture to [TS]

  gray of of me in the shower saying hey [TS]

  great i'm in the shower man what are you [TS]

  up to [TS]

  and and you will receive that personally [TS]

  and click on a button and up pops the [TS]

  picture from Brady great or i could send [TS]

  it to five or six people or i could send [TS]

  it to everyone i'm friends with I could [TS]

  send it to hundreds and hundreds of [TS]

  people or i could send it to any person [TS]

  who's username I have and when if they [TS]

  click on it and click on my name up will [TS]

  pop up the message blue and that same [TS]

  that seems to be in many ways that [TS]

  bigger use of it it's rather than sort [TS]

  of these big public streams like Twitter [TS]

  it seems to more be small circles of [TS]

  friends or personal conversations that [TS]

  seems to be a big use snapchat that to [TS]

  me from my very little knowledge seems [TS]

  to be the strength is this more personal [TS]

  interaction which is fantastic it's not [TS]

  really what I'm looking for in a social [TS]

  media thing especially one that none of [TS]

  my friends use I'm obviously looking for [TS]

  more something where I can talk to [TS]

  people who have an interest in what I'm [TS]

  doing but i do but i do like interacting [TS]

  with people who watch my videos so it [TS]

  has more good to me than it would to you [TS]

  anyway here we come into some problems [TS]

  with that for me and i will come to the [TS]

  content in a minute but let me just talk [TS]

  about this problem and I've been [TS]

  consulting with my good friend justin [TS]

  about it because at first there's this [TS]

  setting that says you only receive these [TS]

  personal snaps from people your friends [TS]

  with and obviously I'm friends with very [TS]

  few people so I received very few of [TS]

  these personal snaps basically only from [TS]

  destin and one or two other people and [TS]

  it was recommended to me by destiny no [TS]

  man change that so everyone can snap you [TS]

  he said do it that everyone do it and [TS]

  like you know tell them something to [TS]

  snap your destiny actually went on to [TS]

  his snapchat everyone send picture Brady [TS]

  a picture of your dog and so I did and [TS]

  let me say it was really good fun [TS]

  everyone was sending me pictures of [TS]

  their dog or everyone was sending [TS]

  messages going to operate it's so great [TS]

  you're on snapchat and I was getting all [TS]

  these personal messages and I really [TS]

  liked it for a day or two it that was [TS]

  really nice but what happens then is [TS]

  after that after that has happened and [TS]

  people have no reason to contact you [TS]

  directly [TS]

  you're just on their big long list now [TS]

  and every time they do something but now [TS]

  like see a leaf on the ground or ate [TS]

  spaghetti for breakfast now take a [TS]

  picture and now snap it to everyone on [TS]

  the list and i'm on that list and i'm on [TS]

  lots of people's lists so suddenly I'm [TS]

  getting I'm I see all these names coming [TS]

  up you've got snaps from bill and Sandy [TS]

  and Superman 101 and cgpgrey and you're [TS]

  clicking through them and some of them a [TS]

  personal and aimed at you which is nice [TS]

  you know [TS]

  hey Brady how you doing i really enjoyed [TS]

  the latest hello Internet [TS]

  here's a picture of me listening to [TS]

  hello internet on top [TS]

  kilimanjaro that's really nice but in [TS]

  dispersed with all that there are people [TS]

  who would just basically spammers who [TS]

  just want to tell everyone in the world [TS]

  everything and that's fine but i can't i [TS]

  can't be doing with that because there [TS]

  are too many of them so what I started [TS]

  doing was I started just blocking those [TS]

  people if they were like persistent but [TS]

  i would allow other people to continue [TS]

  stepping in case they wanted to say [TS]

  something to me who but that but then [TS]

  those people were blocking we're getting [TS]

  blocked from my snapchat story my public [TS]

  fade so they were contacted me on [TS]

  Twitter going Brody have you come off [TS]

  snapchat I can't see you [TS]

  ok as i see i see what's happening i was [TS]

  that I was being honest I was saying [TS]

  look sorry i think i must have blocked [TS]

  because you were just sending me snaps [TS]

  that when aimed at me and you're [TS]

  clogging me up and they were like I'm [TS]

  sorry I won't do that anymore can you [TS]

  unblock me so I can see your public fade [TS]

  again I don't quite know if there's a [TS]

  solution to this I don't know about or [TS]

  what to do but so for me this is one of [TS]

  the reasons why i like twitter is [TS]

  because the the broadcasting following [TS]

  relationship is asymmetrical that you [TS]

  can follow me who I don't follow them [TS]

  which is which is what I want on my [TS]

  Twitter experience what I want out of a [TS]

  social network but it sounds like [TS]

  snapchat is more on the Facebook and [TS]

  following is a mutual thing at 2pm agree [TS]

  to follow each other it can be no no [TS]

  because I don't follow anyone okay [TS]

  I've allowed people who don't follow me [TS]

  to get access to me by sending snaps [TS]

  that may have to stop at some point or I [TS]

  may have to just open the door [TS]

  occasionally like say today I'm [TS]

  accepting snaps because i want to see [TS]

  your pictures of a cloud but but then [TS]

  the next day i shut off again I don't I [TS]

  don't I haven't figured out how to use [TS]

  it yet i do like the personal [TS]

  interaction because i like that more [TS]

  than you and I do quite like hearing [TS]

  from people directly in a bit of [TS]

  personal contact but I don't like I [TS]

  can't handle too much of it so I haven't [TS]

  quite figured out how to use it even [TS]

  breathe he has limits and a few more [TS]

  negative things i'll say is I find that [TS]

  I don't like the design very much it [TS]

  does seem too [TS]

  Childish the logo with that ghosts are i [TS]

  think is just god-awful and my but i [TS]

  don't know maybe it's passed some [TS]

  Marilyn point where people it's so bad [TS]

  it's good and bad an hour [TS]

  I don't like the design i don't like how [TS]

  it looks it doesn't feel very cool to me [TS]

  but maybe that's just a personal [TS]

  sensibility and then the young people [TS]

  obviously lover let me say some positive [TS]

  things though what I do like about it is [TS]

  I like that it's very visual because [TS]

  it's only photos and video [TS]

  most of the time and you can do things [TS]

  to it like you can you can add emojis [TS]

  all over or you can give your finger and [TS]

  draw pictures and you can add text and I [TS]

  actually really like the creative side [TS]

  of it it actually is giving me a [TS]

  creative outlet I feel like I don't have [TS]

  anywhere else particularly to be funny [TS]

  I mean I don't have I don't have people [TS]

  find it particularly funny but i find [TS]

  myself hilarious video I quite enjoy [TS]

  being able to like make a joke or from [TS]

  time to time and i think snapchat is [TS]

  really good for that and I'm really [TS]

  enjoying taking a picture of making a [TS]

  video and making a corny dad joke or [TS]

  making a pan or drawing a funny picture [TS]

  or using an emoticon in a funny way so [TS]

  I'm quite enjoying the ability to [TS]

  express that side of myself which [TS]

  doesn't work so well in Twitter and I [TS]

  like that it's all done very visually i [TS]

  am finding it more than just a [TS]

  distraction i'm finding it quite [TS]

  engaging in that respect and I am liking [TS]

  some of the interaction I have with [TS]

  people who do it back to me and we'll [TS]

  send me a funny picture at the or you [TS]

  know a picture of them watching a video [TS]

  or reacting to what I do [TS]

  so overall so far i'm sticking with it [TS]

  because I'm liking it but it does make [TS]

  me feel old and it's not why would make [TS]

  if I was making my perfect social media [TS]

  and my recommendation is you stay away [TS]

  from that you stay far far away because [TS]

  there's nothing in this that you would [TS]

  like but it's funny you mention that [TS]

  because while we were typing I literally [TS]

  opened up that shared task manager [TS]

  between myself and my assistant and like [TS]

  make gray a snapchat ? I hear it's big [TS]

  with the kids these days right like task [TS]

  like is this the thing that I'm here to [TS]

  do but so you are saying that no I [TS]

  should not have nothing to gain here I [TS]

  think you only gain if you're willing to [TS]

  give [TS]

  and I don't think you are someone who [TS]

  wants to give what snapchat once I think [TS]

  you have to sort of give yourself a [TS]

  little bit more than you would be [TS]

  comfortable with i already give so much [TS]

  of myself to the people reading you [TS]

  don't give a lot of yourself but i don't [TS]

  i don't think it's for you but if you go [TS]

  on I'd be over the moon because i think [TS]

  it would be really funny and maybe you [TS]

  know and and you're a funny guy so maybe [TS]

  you could express your sort of your bro [TS]

  right here making some quite interesting [TS]

  ways i would love to see how you did it [TS]

  well the other thing about snapchat of [TS]

  course which i haven't pointed out that [TS]

  everyone knows is that they don't last [TS]

  very long obviously these things fade [TS]

  can be looked at once and they fade away [TS]

  after a day if they don't get looked at [TS]

  no they're also very fleeting and [TS]

  therefore it is a hungry based and I [TS]

  don't think you could feed this based [TS]

  either because if you if you've got one [TS]

  of these snapchat stories and only shows [TS]

  your last 24 hours of snaps and then [TS]

  they'll fade away so in this you're [TS]

  willing to sort of sustained and and [TS]

  feed on a daily basis it kind of doesn't [TS]

  serve quite such a good purpose so [TS]

  that's another that's another strike [TS]

  against it for for you in particular [TS]

  so if i sign up to snapchat and i said i [TS]

  want to see all the funny stuff that [TS]

  Brady's been up to I only get to see the [TS]

  last 24 hours of funny stuff that you [TS]

  been up to [TS]

  that's right yeah that's right you can't [TS]

  you can't go back over you know and see [TS]

  that classic joke I made three weeks ago [TS]

  or even two or three days ago that's [TS]

  already gone you're stuck with what I've [TS]

  done which is which is a strength of it [TS]

  as well but is a weakness so make of [TS]

  that what you will [TS]

  that's it that's that's a really [TS]

  interesting feature because it i can see [TS]

  what they're going for with that because [TS]

  Twitter does have the problem of oh [TS]

  you're making an off-the-cuff remark but [TS]

  is there until the end of time [TS]

  right like you just you just happen to [TS]

  say something but then that sentence is [TS]

  permanently archived forever [TS]

  yeah so I can see what they're going for [TS]

  with snapchat is to make it feel like it [TS]

  is more immediate but that's to me seems [TS]

  like it's the worst of both worlds [TS]

  because i'm sure someone somewhere is [TS]

  archiving all of this stuff anyway so [TS]

  you have the feeling of temporariness [TS]

  but there's still got to be permanent [TS]

  records [TS]

  oh yeah at everything and also [TS]

  everything gets screencapped like if you [TS]

  do and you actually know if people have [TS]

  screencapped what you did there are [TS]

  steps on that [TS]

  there's a symbol for everything so few [TS]

  yeah if you may accidentally make some [TS]

  incredibly racist comment and you've got [TS]

  a huge following my there's going to be [TS]

  screencaps firing all over the world so [TS]

  don't you have it's not like you can say [TS]

  all what I didn't mean that deleted and [TS]

  pretend it never happened it happened [TS]

  there really cements in my head this is [TS]

  not even the worst of both worlds but [TS]

  then if it if there's a feeling of [TS]

  temporariness that temporariness is just [TS]

  a lie [TS]

  it encourages you to just do dumber [TS]

  stuff in public yes maybe is exactly [TS]

  what snapchat once right baby thats [TS]

  exactly there go that is that the other [TS]

  thing about snapchat is it does it is [TS]

  people doing dumb things [TS]

  it is incredibly vacuous and it is quite [TS]

  yeah it does so the nurse's personality [TS]

  to it is you know there's no arms legs [TS]

  because also you you know you have to [TS]

  film the thing or do the thing [TS]

  immediately you can't sort of craft [TS]

  something over weeks and weeks and [TS]

  release on snapchat is very immediate [TS]

  which is nice and it gives us insight [TS]

  into people and you see into their lives [TS]

  and I quite like that you know i love [TS]

  watching Destin feed the chickens or [TS]

  drive to work and you know I feel like [TS]

  you know he's my mate and I feel closer [TS]

  to him when I'm when I'm seeing him do [TS]

  these things you know we can't talk on [TS]

  the phone every day and I like that so [TS]

  for this sort of one-on-one friendships [TS]

  sort of thing it's it's nice because I [TS]

  sort of see what he's up to every day [TS]

  and he can see what i'm up to every day [TS]

  but for sort of that wider audience [TS]

  thing which professionally is something [TS]

  you and I have an interesting as well [TS]

  whoo it's less useful and less part of [TS]

  your sort of professional modus operandi [TS]

  is to allow people into your life em in [TS]

  which case is brilliant look if you if [TS]

  you're very dependent on that sort of [TS]

  personal relationship where everyone [TS]

  feels like their absolute best make em [TS]

  then it works really well and that [TS]

  transient nature of two also sort of [TS]

  forces people's had you know you know [TS]

  they can't trick you they have to feed [TS]

  you every day and give you the stuff [TS]

  every day so it works for what it wants [TS]

  to do but I can't see how that would [TS]

  work VA this has been very enlightening [TS]

  Brady this is this is very interesting [TS]

  is that I feel like like with you and I [TS]

  anybody who make their living on the [TS]

  internet you have to have some kind of [TS]

  awareness of what's coming over the her [TS]

  Eisen and snapchat was one of those [TS]

  things where it it cross the threshold [TS]

  where I realized I can no longer ignore [TS]

  whatever this thing is it's been on my [TS]

  mind that I have to at some point at [TS]

  least talk to somebody about what [TS]

  snapchat is again making a living on the [TS]

  internet you you have a professional [TS]

  responsibility to be aware of these [TS]

  things at the very least and so the [TS]

  longer you're talking about snapchat the [TS]

  less it sounds like there is anything [TS]

  here for me though I still might end up [TS]

  just making an account just so i can i [TS]

  can look at it of course directly myself [TS]

  and kind of play around with it it's [TS]

  interesting to hear about it and i think [TS]

  i can see why it's gotten so popular i'm [TS]

  sure everyone screaming as well look at [TS]

  that podcast player saying that he's [TS]

  missing out some of the most important [TS]

  things of course what i will do is you [TS]

  can't download your own snaps and [TS]

  stories onto your phone to keep him [TS]

  permanently for yourself [TS]

  so what I'll do is I'll get one of my [TS]

  stories that i've downloaded one of my [TS]

  24-hour sequences and i will somehow [TS]

  make that available for the hello [TS]

  Internet listeners in the show notes and [TS]

  they can go and have a look at one of my [TS]

  24 hours look like just so they can see [TS]

  what snapchat actually looks like i'm [TS]

  talking about and and you as well great [TS]

  yeah but I be very curious to see that [TS]

  maybe you can do a series of screengrabs [TS]

  or something i can i can put them all up [TS]

  as an image gallery somewhere i know you [TS]

  can put it as a whole video you could [TS]

  sit and watch it for you know one minute [TS]

  only ever long it lasts you can watch [TS]

  the day so I'll figure out how to do it [TS]

  I'll get off my phone and give it to you [TS]

  and so if you don't want to download the [TS]

  app and you want to see what a snapchat [TS]

  story looks like hopefully we will [TS]

  enable that if i can make the at work [TS]

  provided you have working and 44 the [TS]

  percentage of our listeners who are like [TS]

  what is this snapchat yeah you and I [TS]

  probably the only two people were [TS]

  talking about like it's this strange [TS]

  except everyone is actually on snapchat [TS]

  the moment we'll be listening [TS]

  yeah it was it that was essentially what [TS]

  was just going through my mind is what [TS]

  percentage of the listener base is not [TS]

  already on snapchat it might be just you [TS]

  and me if you're like me you might be a [TS]

  little put off when you listen to a [TS]

  podcast that sounds like it's been [TS]

  recorded in someone's echoey bathroom [TS]

  but forgive me for this sponsorship [TS]

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  them now he's not picking it up i'll [TS]

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  although why would you not believe me of [TS]

  course you believe me I'm holding it now [TS]

  I've got the silver Winston blade really [TS]

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  it actually looks like it was made to be [TS]

  in this bathroom and another thing I [TS]

  like about Harry's is the packaging [TS]

  normally I throw packaging away but you [TS]

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  it's so nice here we go [TS]

  got a cute little logo all this stuff [TS]

  comes in great little boxes not all that [TS]

  silly blister packs and colorful silly [TS]

  stuff but the other brands use you feel [TS]

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  now I've also got here my spare blades [TS]

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  now these blades are just easy to use [TS]

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  or gel i have the shave cream here that [TS]

  nothing's going to make much noise for [TS]

  you but give a little squeeze but oops [TS]

  don't point to shave cream at your [TS]

  microphone on your chest when you're [TS]

  doing this smells really nice too does [TS]

  the job [TS]

  but you might prefer the gel I'm a cream [TS]

  man myself [TS]

  so anyway that starter set as I was [TS]

  saying handle cream or gel plus 3 razor [TS]

  blades and then when you need more [TS]

  blades they're about two dollars h or [TS]

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  I was actually just looking at the harry [TS]

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  moment as i speak they're doing a [TS]

  limited-edition status set with a new [TS]

  handle which isn't silver like mine but [TS]

  it's really cool matte black it's [TS]

  actually really cool looking i mention [TS]

  sort of one growing with like I don't [TS]

  think would fit in my bathroom now I [TS]

  have a little kind of chrome and stuff [TS]

  like that so I think there's silver [TS]

  handle is still the way to go for me but [TS]

  I think a lot of you would like that [TS]

  black one [TS]

  I'm not sure how much available for so [TS]

  maybe go check it out so anyway I guess [TS]

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  purchase that's five dollars off [TS]

  something that's already incredibly [TS]

  cheap and it will also that Harry's know [TS]

  you came from hello internet and that's [TS]

  good for us thank you for joining me [TS]

  here in the bathroom i will get on with [TS]

  my shave and we can get back to the show [TS]

  I was packing my cows parallel parking [TS]

  between two other cars and it was quite [TS]

  tight my car is quite big and I with the [TS]

  back sort of towbar of my car I didn't [TS]

  think the car behind me like a little [TS]

  you know how that are i'm sure people [TS]

  know that feeling that runs through when [TS]

  you think another car when you're [TS]

  parking it's not nice right [TS]

  who's the car tap as I is that what you [TS]

  call a cartel that i'm going to call it [TS]

  yeah okay yeah I'll get right on it so I [TS]

  was like you gotta do the right thing [TS]

  don't you got to get out and leave a [TS]

  note because obviously there's no one in [TS]

  the car apart can you leave a note and [TS]

  say sorry it was May here's my phone [TS]

  number here's my snapchat yeah exactly [TS]

  and so I got out and I are right note [TS]

  sorry sorry I Kachkar here's my phone [TS]

  number that this car was it was quite [TS]

  beat up already and was covered in [TS]

  scratches and dents and I really [TS]

  struggled to find any mark that I had [TS]

  left [TS]

  but I thought maybe that one there's [TS]

  mine but there was more damage than I [TS]

  could have ever done [TS]

  Lou ok so i was thinking are you know [TS]

  I'm not gonna get done over here so i [TS]

  started taking lots of pictures of their [TS]

  car like their bumper just show it was [TS]

  already really badly damaged and as I [TS]

  was doing that the woman whose [TS]

  characters came up to me and said why [TS]

  you taking photos of my car and I was [TS]

  how's the house that are sorry i [TS]

  actually just reversed into it and see [TS]

  that little tiny mark there that that's [TS]

  me amongst the amongst the sort of [TS]

  forests of other damage who she was [TS]

  great she described her shoulders and [TS]

  said oh don't worry about it's nothing [TS]

  but then she said I guess my husband [TS]

  might be worried so i'll take a number [TS]

  just in case and I thought great i know [TS]

  what's gonna happen oh yeah if you [TS]

  should just hit and run Brady should [TS]

  have just hit and run [TS]

  well hang on we're coming to that so [TS]

  anyway I spent a few days wondering if i [TS]

  was going to get a call and i never did [TS]

  obviously that was sensible and thought [TS]

  well it's fine but funnily enough a few [TS]

  days later I was sitting on a bench [TS]

  having a sandwich and in front of me [TS]

  someone else was reversing trying to get [TS]

  into a car space and they banged into a [TS]

  car and there were three or four other [TS]

  people that saw it happen and this guy [TS]

  in the car looked at what he done from [TS]

  in the car with his a wife or partner [TS]

  looked at what he'd done and then [TS]

  thought to hell with this and went [TS]

  speeding off so i took daddy's [TS]

  license-plate and I wrote it down oh and [TS]

  a rope around know and I left on the car [TS]

  saying if you're wondering where that [TS]

  dent on your car came from it was this [TS]

  car was a you know [TS]

  aldi whatever and this is the license [TS]

  plate and here's my name and here's my [TS]

  number in case you need to find out what [TS]

  happened because I thought did I do the [TS]

  right thing that felt like the right [TS]

  thing to do [TS]

  you're a rat Brady you're being a rat [TS]

  right there well I don't know I'm open [TS]

  to that criticism [TS]

  I'm open to that was I being a wrap did [TS]

  I do the right thing or the wrong thing [TS]

  right now [TS]

  first of all first prism reason that I [TS]

  cannot quite pleased the image of you [TS]

  sitting on a bench eating a sandwich [TS]

  swinging your feet looking around in the [TS]

  park whoever it strikes again is very [TS]

  funny little Brady's just sitting here [TS]

  doing whatever and then suddenly example [TS]

  in this situation in the middle of this [TS]

  crime scene [TS]

  it was like an episode of the wire yeah [TS]

  but meanwhile before you were just [TS]

  watching a butterfly or whatever you [TS]

  continue to do the right thing or the [TS]

  wrong thing [TS]

  use the conflicted like the former [TS]

  teacher in me wants to say oh right you [TS]

  did the right thing Brady right you did [TS]

  the right thing is that was that was [TS]

  good of you to do but the me in me it [TS]

  feels like never get involved with [TS]

  anything right I get that I get that [TS]

  right that's like just doing the quick [TS]

  like risk/reward mental calculation and [TS]

  here like what is the best possible [TS]

  outcome what is the worst possible [TS]

  outcome that the few times in my life [TS]

  where I have ever gotten involved in [TS]

  things like this even though you're [TS]

  being a good Samaritan I always feel [TS]

  afterward like I just wish I hadn't said [TS]

  anything right i just wish i had never [TS]

  gotten involved in this like it was just [TS]

  not worth it or you just you get dragged [TS]

  into other people's hullabaloos and [TS]

  she's like oh god this is this is a huge [TS]

  hassle so yeah I would never say like oh [TS]

  you did the wrong thing right me saying [TS]

  you were rat [TS]

  I feel like that's that's just a joke [TS]

  yeah but you actually are being a [TS]

  responsible citizen but they're totally [TS]

  is a feeling of just like in my mind of [TS]

  just not getting involved in this kind [TS]

  of stuff on the unless you absolutely [TS]

  have to but I'm not the least bit [TS]

  surprised that you did butBut how are [TS]

  you feeling about this situation [TS]

  well let me tell you what happened next [TS]

  and and you will realize what you are [TS]

  both wrong and right day so that night I [TS]

  got a fine calm and mr. and I called [TS]

  back and this does hold this really old [TS]

  man answer the phone and I said are [TS]

  returning a call because some message [TS]

  had been left and I knew it was about [TS]

  the incident i'm returning a call and [TS]

  this guys that are thank you so much [TS]

  thank you are let me get my wife are you [TS]

  such a hero is great for your ego okay [TS]

  yep [TS]

  ok I he may not have said here i might [TS]

  be possible Republican might not really [TS]

  that's the part that might just be in [TS]

  your mind that so surprised [TS]

  Brady name the moon after me Harriet [TS]

  yeah okay [TS]

  I was being praised quite a lot me and [TS]

  then this old lady gets on the phone and [TS]

  you could only describe her as like the [TS]

  clich├ęd sweetest granny sounding lady [TS]

  I've ever heard [TS]

  who and she told me she told me how they [TS]

  just got the cut had been saving for [TS]

  years and it was a new car that got in [TS]

  two days before and they were so proud [TS]

  of it was there it was their pride and [TS]

  joy and it was a very new car because [TS]

  the people around at the time so that's [TS]

  a bread you can they can obviously tell [TS]

  by the license plate and how shiny it [TS]

  was and this lady was like we've been [TS]

  saving for years and was so proud of it [TS]

  and we were so upset when we came back [TS]

  and I had a dent on only like the second [TS]

  day we had and then we saw your note and [TS]

  we're so grateful I was like are you [TS]

  couldn't have written this better not [TS]

  only have I been a good samaritan but I [TS]

  mean it could submit and to like a sweet [TS]

  old granny with her brand-new car so I [TS]

  was feeling pretty good about myself I [TS]

  was like oh that's worked out well i had [TS]

  a car and I get off scot-free [TS]

  haha and it's like something out of [TS]

  granite [TS]

  so anyway so then she was like we're [TS]

  gonna give your details to the insurance [TS]

  company who and then a few days later [TS]

  I'm i gotta miss Cole are so and so from [TS]

  insurance company we understand you [TS]

  witnessed an incident would like to get [TS]

  all your details and suddenly on the are [TS]

  no I'm i am i right now I'm getting [TS]

  drawn into like a thing [TS]

  yep am I gonna have to give like [TS]

  statements here like help how's this [TS]

  gonna go have a fun afternoon down at [TS]

  the precinct [TS]

  yep they're going to force me to listen [TS]

  to our however into the episodes in a [TS]

  Cell already so anyway and I didn't [TS]

  return that call because I think the [TS]

  onus is on the insurance company to call [TS]

  me back if they want to speak to me they [TS]

  haven't gotten me yet so it isn't to be [TS]

  continued [TS]

  I don't know whether or not you know I'm [TS]

  going to get my day in court is going to [TS]

  be like you know 12 Angry Men and all [TS]

  that sort of stuff or whether or not [TS]

  it's just gonna dissipate men at first I [TS]

  felt really good about it like a den a [TS]

  good thing [TS]

  now i'm thinking am I going to get into [TS]

  some kind of bureaucratic pain in the [TS]

  backside which aisle which you know [TS]

  fair enough if I have to do I have to do [TS]

  it but what else happens like just my [TS]

  name and address go on some statement [TS]

  that then goes to the guy who hit the [TS]

  car and is he gonna have my details and [TS]

  is he gonna think [TS]

  rat is gonna send a couple of guys [TS]

  around with a crowbar and say you know [TS]

  look what you've done you've got me in [TS]

  trouble [TS]

  what if he's like some criminal on the [TS]

  run and the reason he drove away is [TS]

  because he's in some monkeys in some [TS]

  gang and now everyone else in the game's [TS]

  gonna be on to me because I had his [TS]

  parole revoked or something like I'm [TS]

  totally with you on this one right I'm [TS]

  not only i'm not even going to be making [TS]

  fun of you at this moment for having [TS]

  some kind of crazy thought because it [TS]

  seems totally plausible to me that this [TS]

  minor incident ends in a breaking bad [TS]

  kind of scenario of course your mind but [TS]

  this is I'm checking around and you're [TS]

  just like this is completely how you [TS]

  think this team is totally reasonable to [TS]

  me [TS]

  i I'm like yeah yeah no idea this it is [TS]

  it is it is not unreasonable that [TS]

  there's a probability that you get [TS]

  involved in some kind of criminal [TS]

  element and end up being threatened and [TS]

  then have to do a favor for a guy and [TS]

  then five years later you know you're [TS]

  involved like deeply deeply in the [TS]

  underworld all because you tried to help [TS]

  an old lady once i know you find the [TS]

  word paranoid very emotive what is this [TS]

  word for you where you you're able to [TS]

  control these thoughts like it's not [TS]

  conjuring right I'm not pulling a dragon [TS]

  out of a hat here and saying oh you [TS]

  might get attacked by a dragon now it's [TS]

  just a simple possibility of you don't [TS]

  know anything about the other guy in his [TS]

  car [TS]

  you know it you don't know anything [TS]

  about these people yet you're up so the [TS]

  possibility that they're involved like [TS]

  oh you know the guy is a member of the [TS]

  Yakuza right it's like you don't know [TS]

  you don't know maybe and so it's [TS]

  plausible [TS]

  it's not likely but it's it's not [TS]

  unlikely that they're you know so yeah [TS]

  I'm a little concerned for you can wake [TS]

  up with a horse's head tomorrow morning [TS]

  yeah maybe that's going to be follow-up [TS]

  on the next show [TS]

  yeah forgot that you have seen the [TS]

  Godfather I haven't seen the Godfather [TS]

  but I do I'm aware of that right that's [TS]

  one of the things you can't possibly not [TS]

  be where away one of these days i will [TS]

  see the Godfather but i already know [TS]

  about the horse's head Godfather maybe [TS]

  it's a good grade maybe after we do our [TS]

  chick flick slumber party with him [TS]

  followed up with a godfather Islam [TS]

  fucking nice little shift in tone yeah [TS]

  well I wish you the best with your old [TS]

  lady stroke possibly mafia situation [TS]

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  so great mhm you as we speak at the [TS]

  moment we haven't mentioned this yet but [TS]

  you are currently in the city of angels [TS]

  yes i am i am in la at this very moment [TS]

  the city which in my mind is always [TS]

  filed under the heading worst city in [TS]

  the civilized world is la that is where [TS]

  i am at this current moment it's part of [TS]

  your part of a big road trip you're [TS]

  doing your previously in san francisco [TS]

  and before that you're over on the east [TS]

  coast time in there's so much going on [TS]

  can I ask you about San Francisco first [TS]

  I want to talk to you about San [TS]

  Francisco yeah yeah so as I understand [TS]

  that you were there for you sneak into [TS]

  WWDC the Apple developers conference but [TS]

  you were also there for you there for [TS]

  real Akon which is that than to get [TS]

  together for the orthopod cousin the [TS]

  relay Network which you are part of what [TS]

  was the best thing about your san [TS]

  francisco trip the one best thing the [TS]

  highlight the thing that you still [TS]

  remember in two weeks without still [TS]

  remember two weeks from now [TS]

  well I know you don't tend to remember [TS]

  things are very loved that is totally [TS]

  true that is totally true and a great [TS]

  lawyer you'll be a wholly human within [TS]

  four weeks second within the year I'll [TS]

  be like practically a new human four [TS]

  weeks is a little bit of a short time [TS]

  horizon banega is this trip has been a [TS]

  crazy trip and it's been it's been hard [TS]

  for me to even remember all the things [TS]

  that I've been doing but I think perhaps [TS]

  the most unexpected stroke interesting [TS]

  thing of the trip was that yes i did [TS]

  sneak into the actual WWDC where I had [TS]

  absolutely no right to be happy you [TS]

  think someone else's ticket and that was [TS]

  that was a really interesting experience [TS]

  to be able to see that [TS]

  like the apple conference that you [TS]

  always hear about on the outside i was [TS]

  able to see it from the inside and sit [TS]

  on developer sessions where again I had [TS]

  no reason or right to be there but it [TS]

  was just that was really interesting and [TS]

  unexpected thing that kind of happened [TS]

  at the absolute last moment that's going [TS]

  to be quite an interesting memory that's [TS]

  laid down that i will have for quite a [TS]

  long time [TS]

  well bearing in mind that your lawyer is [TS]

  not present you know how did you get [TS]

  into WWE say how did you sneak in [TS]

  i'm not i'm not exactly sure that can [TS]

  feel hot the show how can happen without [TS]

  getting parties unnamed in trouble on [TS]

  that 1i but I could take it I know maybe [TS]

  you know somebody else's identification [TS]

  fell on the floor and maybe I picked up [TS]

  maybe that's what happens [TS]

  well I'm the last person you should tell [TS]

  graduate because you know what a rat I [TS]

  am [TS]

  yeah i know you are told that right [TS]

  you'll be you'll be emailing Tim [TS]

  straightaway like listen I just wanted [TS]

  to report an incident i'll just leave a [TS]

  little piece of paper and his windscreen [TS]

  wiper saying look I don't want to you [TS]

  know get too involved but you might want [TS]

  to look into the cgpgrey character right [TS]

  but then was WWDC that fairy tale that [TS]

  you dreamed it would be [TS]

  the navona of apple products you know [TS]

  they don't they don't have the actual [TS]

  apple products out there it's a big [TS]

  conference it's a big conference is what [TS]

  it is and it was not so much people that [TS]

  look just like you I imagine [TS]

  oh my god i never blend in more than i [TS]

  did at WWDC yeah it was it was fantastic [TS]

  like no need for camouflage here right I [TS]

  think I think I think that perhaps there [TS]

  is no conference I could go to where I [TS]

  would be more of an anonymous human [TS]

  being then WWDC it's like and I think [TS]

  nobody will notice me for anything it [TS]

  was it was it was just like perfect [TS]

  perfect anonymity at WWDC wearing every [TS]

  against one picture I was not wearing a [TS]

  reputed Scott was anyone else wearing [TS]

  what did you see any hello Internet [TS]

  shirts they're actually didn't see any [TS]

  hello internet stuff although it did see [TS]

  a couple CGP grey shirts there but I [TS]

  didn't say I didn't see any hello [TS]

  Internet ones I Brady there were no [TS]

  reunion swamp n rice wrap shirts are [TS]

  sure it's visible [TS]

  well i know that there was a mighty [TS]

  blacks temptation in the keynote [TS]

  oh yeah how do you know that [TS]

  because I saw her photo someone wearing [TS]

  1i did you I missed that i missed that [TS]

  say my operation Zeus has contacts [TS]

  everywhere I know everything that's [TS]

  going on his operation Zeus a good name [TS]

  for a spy program that seems like a [TS]

  terrible code name for a spy program you [TS]

  need a sneaky name right it needs to be [TS]

  like operation slytherin or something [TS]

  like that's a better name for a spy [TS]

  program [TS]

  ok I'll come back to that I want to [TS]

  think of a better than this relay Conway [TS]

  you where all the podcasts got together [TS]

  and you hung out with people and also i [TS]

  got to make people who listen to the [TS]

  podcast [TS]

  did you enjoy making strangest the thing [TS]

  that I always need to preface this with [TS]

  is with meeting strangers i have much [TS]

  better meeting strangers when I am [TS]

  prepared to meet strangers and so this [TS]

  was one of those things where I knew I [TS]

  was gonna go to an event and the bigger [TS]

  scale of it I also knew like I'm going [TS]

  to be in san francisco for a week I'm [TS]

  going to be hanging out in and around [TS]

  the kind of WWDC crowd which is probably [TS]

  much more likely to recognize me then [TS]

  like a random sampling the population [TS]

  which turned out to be totally true and [TS]

  so being aware of that in advance I [TS]

  could kind of mentally prepare for that [TS]

  and that's the whole week I felt a bit [TS]

  like I felt a bit like I was on duty in [TS]

  a sense I was available for people to [TS]

  come up and say hi in a bunch of [TS]

  situations i was even I I felt like my [TS]

  unofficial name tag was I was wearing my [TS]

  CGP grey hoodie and so yeah when people [TS]

  came up and they said hello and because [TS]

  i was prepared for it was it was totally [TS]

  fine like i am sure I am ready to say hi [TS]

  to people and under those circumstances [TS]

  i can i can be i think i can come off as [TS]

  a regular normal person to interact with [TS]

  so it was good because it was prepared [TS]

  but if I had been recognized and come up [TS]

  to that many times just in a normal week [TS]

  in London I would not be taking very [TS]

  well with that like if they would not go [TS]

  as smoothly if people just randomly came [TS]

  up to me on the street and said hello in [TS]

  moments when I was not expecting it [TS]

  it would be a sign you're doing [TS]

  awesomely well yeah yeah but then if you [TS]

  like to well right and like I need to [TS]

  pull back on my youtube career I [TS]

  honestly think if people started [TS]

  recognizing me as frequently as they did [TS]

  in that week I would make fewer videos [TS]

  and podcasts like immediately records [TS]

  like I have to pull back i have to pull [TS]

  back this is not the life [TS]

  I want to live I'm not a vlogger it [TS]

  looks and sounds like it was quite good [TS]

  fun time now [TS]

  San Francisco is you know you'll see [TS]

  your sexy your second spiritual city [TS]

  till after London you've made it clear [TS]

  that if London gets wiped off the face [TS]

  of the earth in San Francisco's you back [TS]

  out well how'd you find a week in San [TS]

  Francisco [TS]

  well I'm not exactly sure i phrase it [TS]

  that way but I i will say that i kept [TS]

  thinking about how whatever was a couple [TS]

  podcast ago we were discussing cities [TS]

  and how cities go when how is san [TS]

  francisco would be on my list of [TS]

  possible places to live in the united [TS]

  states where I to move back to the [TS]

  United States but I kept thinking about [TS]

  those words those words of mine I felt [TS]

  like they were haunting me for the [TS]

  entire time I was in San Francisco [TS]

  because I don't know how to say this in [TS]

  a nice way but i have never come across [TS]

  a higher density of just random crazy [TS]

  street people anywhere in the world then [TS]

  in San Francisco like San Francisco is [TS]

  where crazy people are professional [TS]

  about their crazy it was absolutely [TS]

  unbelievable to me i don't know if [TS]

  you've seen this when you were there but [TS]

  the amount of crazy people on the [TS]

  streets was a was a constant topic of [TS]

  conversation among everybody there [TS]

  because if you left the hotel and walked [TS]

  in any direction it honestly felt like [TS]

  it was the walking dead in some places [TS]

  like you you would turn down a street [TS]

  and you would feel like you were in some [TS]

  kind of post-apocalyptic wasteland with [TS]

  zombies wandering around it was striking [TS]

  it was really striking and very [TS]

  unexpected in a way have you seen that [TS]

  at all when you're there or you would [TS]

  you really like in a different part of [TS]

  the city [TS]

  well I mean I'm and the ivory Berkeley [TS]

  which also has its share of it's got [TS]

  quite a hippie sort of eccentric [TS]

  reputation but over the city and so far [TS]

  i do go [TS]

  what about us see bit of a button and I [TS]

  realized that it has it does have a [TS]

  quite interesting you know more [TS]

  alternative population and also attracts [TS]

  a lot of people who have been down on [TS]

  their luck faith for some reason a lot [TS]

  of those people tend to flock to San [TS]

  Francisco [TS]

  I don't know why maybe because the [TS]

  climate's not as good as it is [TS]

  further south but that seems to be a [TS]

  real mecca for people who were sort of [TS]

  you know looking for a new start but [TS]

  maybe I'm just a bit more immune to it [TS]

  like what are some of the things you saw [TS]

  that stuck with you i mean here's the [TS]

  thing i had this feeling of I live in [TS]

  London a city that is not a stranger to [TS]

  crazy people on the street and I had [TS]

  just two weeks before going to san [TS]

  francisco i had spent some time in New [TS]

  York which is the city that I spent some [TS]

  time in growing up and have been too [TS]

  frequently and there again you see you [TS]

  know like homeless people on the streets [TS]

  and just like lunatics and anybody who [TS]

  lives in a city at anybody who lives in [TS]

  the city you develop this kind of crazy [TS]

  radar we're here walking down the street [TS]

  and you learn to identify people coming [TS]

  in the other direction that you just you [TS]

  identify them in your vision and you [TS]

  feel like I'm gonna walk as far away [TS]

  from this person as I can while still [TS]

  being on the same side walk together [TS]

  right like you just give this person [TS]

  some space and I always imagine that if [TS]

  you were flying a drone overhead in a [TS]

  city like New York or any city in the [TS]

  world you could very easily use like a [TS]

  computer algorithm to identify the [TS]

  crazies because they they would have [TS]

  like this little periphery around them [TS]

  like an extra space where people just [TS]

  don't go in in the same way that I [TS]

  imagine flying a drone above a police [TS]

  car on the highway is going to be [TS]

  surrounded by a bubble of people going [TS]

  exactly but not faster than the speed [TS]

  limit right boys outside the visual [TS]

  range of that police officer everybody's [TS]

  going faster [TS]

  yeah I have this like I'm aware of crazy [TS]

  people but in San Francisco the density [TS]

  was so high it was startling [TS]

  so one morning I went out for a walk I [TS]

  just sort of went out and has you do [TS]

  like I'm just going for a walk mr. like [TS]

  collecting my thoughts and I wasn't [TS]

  paying any attention i'm just walking [TS]

  down some streets randomly and at one [TS]

  point I suddenly realized like oh I [TS]

  don't know where I am but I've just [TS]

  gotten into like a terrible part of town [TS]

  and i looked around and i did the actual [TS]

  count of there were 25 people in my [TS]

  field Division and every single one of [TS]

  those 25 people my brain was recognizing [TS]

  as a threat like this person is a [TS]

  potential threat this person is a [TS]

  potential threat this person is a [TS]

  percent potential threat this is just [TS]

  not my experience even in the worst [TS]

  parts of London that you end up on a [TS]

  street that real [TS]

  really felt like the city had just [TS]

  officially decided we are abandoning [TS]

  this street like we're just we're just [TS]

  leaving it to the zombies right they can [TS]

  just have it we're not even going to go [TS]

  down there I just kept finding myself to [TS]

  this ridiculous amount like mentally [TS]

  sizing up if I could take a guy on the [TS]

  street like if it came to that because [TS]

  you just like crazy people walking up [TS]

  and like okay could I take this guy in a [TS]

  fight if an absolutely came to it like [TS]

  he looks like a lunatic many passes by [TS]

  like here comes up somebody else's like [TS]

  okay what about this guy like you know [TS]

  what's what's the situation here [TS]

  it was just very very startling and and [TS]

  surprising and I mean apparently talking [TS]

  to some of the locals i happen to be [TS]

  staying in literally the worst part of [TS]

  san francisco so I was at like ground [TS]

  zero for this sort of thing but it was [TS]

  yeah it was just really striking and [TS]

  surprising and there were just so many [TS]

  things that I saw that like I cannot [TS]

  believe I am seeing this like I can't [TS]

  believe that this is America [TS]

  I want an example the most eggs the most [TS]

  extreme example was on the the [TS]

  second-to-last day was I was just again [TS]

  just walking out to get some supplies [TS]

  and walking down the street I saw [TS]

  someone just basically step into the [TS]

  road drop their pants and take it the [TS]

  middle of the street like not not [TS]

  against the street corner anything right [TS]

  it's not like you know not any kind of [TS]

  human privacy just like I know you know [TS]

  where i should I in the street right [TS]

  that's what I do this like oh ok well [TS]

  that's interesting to be like adopt an [TS]

  appropriate position besides the fact [TS]

  that it's great like they didn't just [TS]

  like stay standing up to that you know [TS]

  how they like they just drop their pants [TS]

  and squat right and I go okay right well [TS]

  you know that's the thing that's a thing [TS]

  to say thankyou san francisco that's [TS]

  lovely [TS]

  and that would have been a good snapchat [TS]

  ok so the other the other small thing [TS]

  which was just just like a thing that I [TS]

  was aware of but ok well people here [TS]

  homeless people seem to enjoy sleeping [TS]

  across the sidewalk right not against a [TS]

  wall or anything but just just kind of [TS]

  laying down in the middle of the [TS]

  sidewalk in absolutely everybody's way [TS]

  and then this is where they're going to [TS]

  sleep and this is like oh not just one [TS]

  person this is a bunch of people and [TS]

  that kind of thing is like okay [TS]

  your kind of extra crazy to be doing [TS]

  this right like if you're obviously not [TS]

  in a good situation but then also [TS]

  deciding you're going to sleep in a [TS]

  place where if you moved three feet in [TS]

  one direction you would be less likely [TS]

  to be stepped on but you're feeling is [TS]

  like at the hell with it right I'm just [TS]

  gonna sleep here in the middle like oh [TS]

  ok well this is a frequent occurrence is [TS]

  diverting around someone who's just [TS]

  sleeping in the middle of the street and [TS]

  for the entirety of my trip I kept [TS]

  thinking something about this is just [TS]

  different than other places i have been [TS]

  and when I finally pinned down on is [TS]

  realizing okay well you walk around in a [TS]

  city and write you often smell you're in [TS]

  wherever you're walking it's like okay [TS]

  well this is like not a nice area [TS]

  because it smells like pee right but the [TS]

  number of places in san francisco where [TS]

  I was walking around and it didn't smell [TS]

  like pee it smells like death where the [TS]

  feeling was I don't even know what is [TS]

  occurring here but dear god i don't want [TS]

  to know what's occurring here was so [TS]

  many places i don't know it was just [TS]

  what it just it was so striking and such [TS]

  a weird experience especially [TS]

  considering that like a number of times [TS]

  when i was walking from the hotel to [TS]

  some other place like where was i [TS]

  walking too i was walking to the [TS]

  interior of an ultra modern [TS]

  air-conditioned brand new office of a [TS]

  multimillion-dollar tech company that [TS]

  was the super weird experience of this [TS]

  this kind of out on the streets it is [TS]

  the Living Dead and then inside it is a [TS]

  look at where magic company building the [TS]

  future [TS]

  it was just strange how many of these [TS]

  offices i was bc i would be standing [TS]

  outside of and feel like man I can't [TS]

  wait to get inside and be safe and then [TS]

  on the inside it was like oh we live in [TS]

  the year 3000 here it was very very [TS]

  strange it was very weird [TS]

  there are a lot of places in san [TS]

  francisco that are the smell like way or [TS]

  wait [TS]

  yeah but I it but i found myself praying [TS]

  for the weed smell like homeboy wishes [TS]

  just smelling like weed here right that [TS]

  would that would be a tremendous relief [TS]

  that would be a tremendous relief i [TS]

  think in the San Francisco seems to be [TS]

  specializing in venture capital and tech [TS]

  companies but it also seems to be [TS]

  specializing [TS]

  in just like a kind of aggressive [TS]

  craziness and i keep saying craziness as [TS]

  opposed to just homelessness because [TS]

  while obviously a large number of these [TS]

  people were homeless the thing i said [TS]

  before about how like you identify in [TS]

  your mind people is being threats [TS]

  it's like you're the monkey in the [TS]

  beginning of lawnmower man it's like [TS]

  threat threat threat righties you see [TS]

  them on the streets so many people who [TS]

  like obviously where people going [TS]

  somewhere and who had some job to get to [TS]

  we're still setting off this little [TS]

  internal trigger in my mind I was like [TS]

  okay san francisco you specialize in [TS]

  craziness in a way that is deeply [TS]

  unexpected to me [TS]

  well i'm in part of that maybe means [TS]

  when you're in san francisco you need to [TS]

  recalibrate your crater but also it [TS]

  probably just have more crazy people [TS]

  you're definitely right because the [TS]

  number of actual physical altercations [TS]

  that I got into 10 in my time there and [TS]

  the number that i was prepared for was [TS]

  probably in the low hundreds it's turned [TS]

  up a little bit high [TS]

  I mean it was I really did at one point [TS]

  I found myself again like an idiot going [TS]

  for this early-morning walk and I was [TS]

  like oh what a lovely parked in a min [TS]

  and then suddenly I kind of again like [TS]

  reassess the situation of everyone [TS]

  around me and I felt myself thinking [TS]

  like I wish I had a knife right now it's [TS]

  like I would feel way better if I had a [TS]

  knife you know stuffed into the back of [TS]

  my jeans at this moment so yes my [TS]

  craydar might have been turned up a [TS]

  little high but yes the the number was [TS]

  was still quite alarming and I don't [TS]

  know it's one of those things this is [TS]

  again we can we could get into the [TS]

  radian great ride to solve all the [TS]

  problems of the world section of the [TS]

  podcast but i also just found myself [TS]

  constantly thinking about how this is [TS]

  such a difficult problem to try to solve [TS]

  and thinking about like you know if i [TS]

  was suddenly the mayor of San Francisco [TS]

  tomorrow like what could you practically [TS]

  try to do to make this better and it's [TS]

  very difficult to think of all around [TS]

  politically feasible solutions to [TS]

  something like this like it's just it's [TS]

  just not an easy thing to think about is [TS]

  your overall impression of San Francisco [TS]

  moved because last time it Katie East I [TS]

  got the impression that if you were [TS]

  gonna live in London San Francisco would [TS]

  be an option [TS]

  we do you still feel that way but has it [TS]

  changed your view of the city in terms [TS]

  of desirability or is it just a sort of [TS]

  you know colored a little bit that's an [TS]

  interesting question to ask because I [TS]

  feel both ways about this that this city [TS]

  itself in terms of a place to walk [TS]

  around and a physical place that is a [TS]

  city i find myself liking much much much [TS]

  less then I was thinking that I might [TS]

  and I had been in San Francisco before [TS]

  but this was years ago and very very [TS]

  briefly like I had not spent to a [TS]

  serious amount of time in San Francisco [TS]

  so that the city i found like annoying [TS]

  in a bunch of ways to get at least in no [TS]

  small part because it's just like well I [TS]

  don't like that it's so hot I don't like [TS]

  that it's so hilly I don't like that my [TS]

  threat radar is being set off so [TS]

  constantly like these are a bunch of [TS]

  things that I don't like about the city [TS]

  but i can just double down on the thing [TS]

  that I was saying is attractive about [TS]

  San Francisco is that I think there is [TS]

  perhaps nowhere in the world that has a [TS]

  higher density of interesting people [TS]

  working on interesting problems and that [TS]

  is the attractive part of the city to me [TS]

  and I feel like I really got to [TS]

  experience a full week of this in my [TS]

  travels of every day all day was meeting [TS]

  with and talking to various people who [TS]

  are working on various projects all of [TS]

  which are interesting and people are [TS]

  working very hard on solving challenging [TS]

  technical problems and I think like like [TS]

  that is the attractiveness of the city [TS]

  is just this high density of smart [TS]

  interesting people solving interesting [TS]

  problems so i still find that a very [TS]

  attractive thing but now I just feel [TS]

  like oh it's really unfortunate that [TS]

  it's in san francisco over here like hey [TS]

  why doesn't everybody just can we just [TS]

  relocate everybody to New York maybe we [TS]

  could do that maybe that would be better [TS]

  the other thing that's worth talking [TS]

  about then and it's worth talking about [TS]

  now because as we're recording it hasn't [TS]

  happened yet really but it will have [TS]

  happened by the time this is released [TS]

  i'm guessing is your at VidCon [TS]

  I'm sure seems like something i didn't [TS]

  think you'd ever go to but there you go [TS]

  you're there how you feeling about that [TS]

  what's going on it [TS]

  yes yes why you're nothing i'm laughing [TS]

  because even I find it funny that i'm at [TS]

  VidCon because it feels to me like why [TS]

  am I at VidCon why am I here because [TS]

  you're a sellout [TS]

  well I mean I the funny thing is and [TS]

  this is one of it again like we will [TS]

  have to see what happens but i am at [TS]

  VidCon in the most unofficial capacity [TS]

  ever like I'm not doing any [TS]

  presentations I'm not doing any panels [TS]

  on that I'm not doing anything [TS]

  yeah yeah I bet you to do you think [TS]

  you're not I bet you get dragged into a [TS]

  couple we would you want to put some [TS]

  money on the table right now because I [TS]

  will be willing to bet you anything that [TS]

  I don't do any panels while I'm here [TS]

  how much do you wanna bet Brady hundred [TS]

  bucks you want to bet a hundred bucks [TS]

  okay i'll bet you a hundred bucks so I [TS]

  have to say it again I'm not doing any [TS]

  presentations I'm not doing any panels [TS]

  while I'm here yeah I feel almost like i [TS]

  am at VidCon as a tourist like i am here [TS]

  because this event is such a huge item [TS]

  on the calendar of everyone who who [TS]

  works at YouTube and I've never been and [TS]

  when I was planning what was going to [TS]

  happen this summer the fact that WWDC [TS]

  and relay con were happening so close to [TS]

  when VidCon was happening and I so hate [TS]

  travel that I like to try to group [TS]

  everything in big blocks that it almost [TS]

  seemed crazy to me not to try to go down [TS]

  to VidCon since it would be right after [TS]

  because like I'm never gonna fly out to [TS]

  California just for this kind of thing [TS]

  probably but if i can combine two events [TS]

  then suddenly my brain likes it way [TS]

  better so i did get a ticket to VidCon [TS]

  and i am down here now and I am [TS]

  interested to see what this thing is [TS]

  really like but the funny thing is just [TS]

  before we recorded this podcast i went [TS]

  right when it opens to get my tickets my [TS]

  I could go through my registration thing [TS]

  because I didn't want to get stuck in [TS]

  like an enormous line with tons of [TS]

  people just as with the WWDC where I [TS]

  said like okay [TS]

  Here I am just an anonymous person right [TS]

  i just i totally blend in no one's gonna [TS]

  notice me even registering for the [TS]

  ticket straight away at the VidCon like [TS]

  oh god I am so not the median person at [TS]

  VidCon right like looking around in the [TS]

  room it's like okay there's already 500 [TS]

  people here waiting to get tickets and [TS]

  the median human is a fourteen-year-old [TS]

  girl and I just I feel like way out of [TS]

  place on this line getting my ticket for [TS]

  VidCon so that that is least my one [TS]

  little initial experience with what is [TS]

  like so far [TS]

  mara well I look forward to a more full [TS]

  briefing when the time comes [TS]

  are you feeling like dread or I feeling [TS]

  like an excitement or what would be the [TS]

  which is winning this sort of arm [TS]

  wrestle between your kind of curiosity [TS]

  in your fear as with all these things [TS]

  like my feeling is interest right [TS]

  interest is this human emotion that [TS]

  exists sometimes for some topics and [TS]

  this is this is my feeling now is I am [TS]

  interested to see what this is like i [TS]

  have seen videos of it on youtube I have [TS]

  heard many people talk about it but i [TS]

  have had no first-hand experience of it [TS]

  so i am interested to see how it goes [TS]

  but i have no fear or dread because i [TS]

  have no responsibilities while I'm here [TS]

  I'm just a tourist i'm not doing [TS]

  anything except collecting your hundred [TS]

  dollars at a later point in time [TS]