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◼   ► co yeah I don't know what that was that [TS]

◼   ► went terribly wrong i guess i was going [TS]

◼   ► wrong when i was doing it but whatever [TS]

◼   ► the show must go on [TS]

◼   ► what do you think of the taco [TS]

◼   ► I think it's pretty coat i think it's a [TS]

◼   ► very good title rogue one is a good [TS]

◼   ► title for Star Wars movie [TS]

◼   ► I liked it thumbs up two thumbs up for [TS]

◼   ► the title good stop [TS]

◼   ► yeah it's it's it's funny for me because [TS]

◼   ► for various reasons i have been more [TS]

◼   ► disconnected from the world than normal [TS]

◼   ► for the past many weeks I only just [TS]

◼   ► found out literally like days ago that [TS]

◼   ► this star wars movie even existed and [TS]

◼   ► was in the theaters so I I went into [TS]

◼   ► this one knowing the words Road one and [TS]

◼   ► vaguely what I'd heard a year ago that [TS]

◼   ► they were going to make a movie about [TS]

◼   ► getting the Death Star plans [TS]

◼   ► yeah and that was that was the entire [TS]

◼   ► extent of my knowledge like I knew more [TS]

◼   ► about the force awakens by multiples of [TS]

◼   ► hundreds than than this movie so I went [TS]

◼   ► into it [TS]

◼   ► just knowing cool title very cool title [TS]

◼   ► and that was basically it did not saying [TS]

◼   ► trailers or anything or I hadn't seen [TS]

◼   ► trailers I hadn't seen posters is [TS]

◼   ► somehow this one totally blew past me [TS]

◼   ► yeah and the only thing I knew about it [TS]

◼   ► was was last year hearing about their [TS]

◼   ► plan to do and in between sewed kind of [TS]

◼   ► a movie every year as opposed to their [TS]

◼   ► main one so that was it i knew i knew [TS]

◼   ► nothing walking into the Star Wars movie [TS]

◼   ► nice work i managed to remain reasonably [TS]

◼   ► spoiler-free thank goodness and as of [TS]

◼   ► now i'm also very very review and [TS]

◼   ► opinion free [TS]

◼   ► mmm i do not have reasonably positive [TS]

◼   ► reviews raised me positive but I don't [TS]

◼   ► know what people have liked to not like [TS]

◼   ► to what people have said so things we [TS]

◼   ► say that we might think of profound may [TS]

◼   ► have been set of thousand times before [TS]

◼   ► or we may find something amazing thing [TS]

◼   ► that no one's ever said before but [TS]

◼   ► knowing the sort of star wars ii podcast [TS]

◼   ► few things I think we're all going to be [TS]

◼   ► saying the same things that everyone [TS]

◼   ► else says yeah if if if last year's Star [TS]

◼   ► Wars Christmas special was anything to [TS]

◼   ► go by what we regard ourselves from [TS]

◼   ► listening to all sorts of reviews not [TS]

◼   ► only to discover after recording our [TS]

◼   ► podcast and listening to everybody [TS]

◼   ► else's that there was a very strong [TS]

◼   ► consensus opinion [TS]

◼   ► yeah i feel i feel a little bit more [TS]

◼   ► more nervous going into this podcast [TS]

◼   ► having not looked out into the wider [TS]

◼   ► world and seeing what people think of [TS]

◼   ► the movie because I feel like I have [TS]

◼   ► much stronger opinions in particular [TS]

◼   ► ways for this one really i'm a little [TS]

◼   ► actually feeling a little bit like I [TS]

◼   ► don't know how my reactions to what are [TS]

◼   ► going to match up with the wider world [TS]

◼   ► reactions on the barbecue area to see if [TS]

◼   ► it repeats that shouldn't matter grey I [TS]

◼   ► shouldn't matter you should be fiercely [TS]

◼   ► independent [TS]

◼   ► youyou strong independent minded cgpgrey [TS]

◼   ► never a shape [TS]

◼   ► why you nervous about how your opinion [TS]

◼   ► compares with us I don't know I guess I [TS]

◼   ► guess nervous isn't exactly the right [TS]

◼   ► word but it's just i'm looking at like a [TS]

◼   ► big page of notes and i have a bunch of [TS]

◼   ► strong opinions and it's just [TS]

◼   ► interesting to see like I'm gonna get a [TS]

◼   ► ton of feedback from people saying that [TS]

◼   ► I'm totally wrong or is or is it going [TS]

◼   ► to be just like oh yes you have you have [TS]

◼   ► the same thoughts as everybody else like [TS]

◼   ► last year I don't know it's just kind of [TS]

◼   ► a funny thing to to be going into this [TS]

◼   ► with i think that that kind of like I [TS]

◼   ► have no idea what anybody else thought [TS]

◼   ► about it i literally just saw it it came [TS]

◼   ► out of the theater like a couple hours [TS]

◼   ► ago from my notes viewing of the movie [TS]

◼   ► and so now we are we are walking into [TS]

◼   ► the recording i have 22 tiny little [TS]

◼   ► bullet points that I made on my iphone [TS]

◼   ► during the film so they're roughly in [TS]

◼   ► order are basically because I made them [TS]

◼   ► as the film went on and I made them on a [TS]

◼   ► checklist app that i never i don't use [TS]

◼   ► for anything other than the podcast i [TS]

◼   ► have 22 things to say [TS]

◼   ► maybe but I imagine it's going to be a [TS]

◼   ► lot of duplication and also i mentioned [TS]

◼   ► some of them are either going to be so [TS]

◼   ► badly tight or I'm not gonna remember [TS]

◼   ► what they made because i haven't read it [TS]

◼   ► back yet so let's see how we go alright [TS]

◼   ► let's see how we go where do we start [TS]

◼   ► well I guess I guess [TS]

◼   ► don't we have to do the thing that you [TS]

◼   ► always want to do which is brady you [TS]

◼   ► have to you have to give your your [TS]

◼   ► overall opinion and feeling of the movie [TS]

◼   ► yeah I don't think that we need to do [TS]

◼   ► this but I feel like isn't that what we [TS]

◼   ► always have to do this feels like the [TS]

◼   ► Brady rule for discussing movies it is [TS]

◼   ► kind of a tradition and I do think it's [TS]

◼   ► useful but i was thinking of doing it [TS]

◼   ► your way for once in giving your one-off [TS]

◼   ► exemption [TS]

◼   ► but but I i think it does help and maybe [TS]

◼   ► it is a tradition [TS]

◼   ► hmm ok so it's funny that you wanted to [TS]

◼   ► do with the reverse way because you [TS]

◼   ► finally prepared for know is it's not [TS]

◼   ► that I was prepared for it it's not that [TS]

◼   ► I was prepared for it because i think [TS]

◼   ► most of the time my way is better [TS]

◼   ► hmm i but but that's you know that's [TS]

◼   ► going to be the title of your [TS]

◼   ► autobiography my way is better at the [TS]

◼   ► cgpgrey story but this one time I feel [TS]

◼   ► like I can't walk through the movie and [TS]

◼   ► talk about it without having the overall [TS]

◼   ► framework in place I feel like that [TS]

◼   ► conversation would almost be a a silly [TS]

◼   ► pointless conversation so i think i'm [TS]

◼   ► going to press very hard with we should [TS]

◼   ► give our opinions at the beginning [TS]

◼   ► because I don't know how to talk about [TS]

◼   ► this otherwise i love it I love it [TS]

◼   ► alright and so Brady I want to know what [TS]

◼   ► is your high-level take away from rogue [TS]

◼   ► one how do you feel about it i thought i [TS]

◼   ► was gonna love it [TS]

◼   ► Lou and I feel surprisingly indifferent [TS]

◼   ► about it who I thought I just sort of [TS]

◼   ► thing man [TS]

◼   ► it was it was just like a good movie it [TS]

◼   ► was a good movie it was well done [TS]

◼   ► I there were lots of things I liked [TS]

◼   ► about it it was well-executed I'd be [TS]

◼   ► very proud of myself if I'd made it ok [TS]

◼   ► but it was just like for various reasons [TS]

◼   ► that will touch on it didn't like [TS]

◼   ► grabbed me it didn't it didn't it it [TS]

◼   ► roused very little emotion in me and the [TS]

◼   ► way that even a force the force awakens [TS]

◼   ► did that mean i'm back i got very [TS]

◼   ► emotional about that film but this was [TS]

◼   ► just kind of I just sort of felt like [TS]

◼   ► watching it was little bit of a chore [TS]

◼   ► who and it was nice [TS]

◼   ► there are lots of there are lots of good [TS]

◼   ► things and you know I couldn't possibly [TS]

◼   ► give it a thumbs down because it's a [TS]

◼   ► good film but I just [TS]

◼   ► but i'm not gonna give it like a big [TS]

◼   ► thumbs up I mean I a good test was are [TS]

◼   ► sore on my own little my wife doesn't [TS]

◼   ► mind style was movies and she was a bit [TS]

◼   ► jealous that I was going to get together [TS]

◼   ► and say it without her cause she was at [TS]

◼   ► work and I said to her and this is what [TS]

◼   ► happened with force awakens to i watch [TS]

◼   ► that with her as well because of the [TS]

◼   ► same reason but I [TS]

◼   ► tresor I said we've got to see it and [TS]

◼   ► the next night we went to work together [TS]

◼   ► when she came home from work with this [TS]

◼   ► one and she said so what was rode one [TS]

◼   ► like you know am I gonna go on say it [TS]

◼   ► with you my answer was I think you can [TS]

◼   ► probably wait [TS]

◼   ► hmm I wouldn't rush out to see it this [TS]

◼   ► is gonna be like a you watch it on [TS]

◼   ► Netflix sometime kind of movie [TS]

◼   ► yeah yeah so so it could have been far [TS]

◼   ► worse you know we all we all know we all [TS]

◼   ► know what happens when a star wars movie [TS]

◼   ► goes wrong the radio we all know how bad [TS]

◼   ► it could be and that and that definitely [TS]

◼   ► didn't happen right but my overall [TS]

◼   ► feeling is some good stuff some very [TS]

◼   ► good stuff actually few things I can't [TS]

◼   ► wait to talk about some things that I [TS]

◼   ► thought mr. mark was an important things [TS]

◼   ► I think miss the mark who [TS]

◼   ► but solid if they make one of these [TS]

◼   ► every second year i'll go watch em and i [TS]

◼   ► think that i don't think they could I do [TS]

◼   ► think it sort of you just dragging down [TS]

◼   ► Style Wars a whole little bit for my [TS]

◼   ► liking but that's just me being me who [TS]

◼   ► and being an old grump better if they [TS]

◼   ► have to if they have to make them and [TS]

◼   ► they keep making them at this level [TS]

◼   ► I'm okay with that interesting [TS]

◼   ► interesting Brady mm so that feels like [TS]

◼   ► a at an overall like it [TS]

◼   ► tepid enjoyment is that is that what I'm [TS]

◼   ► getting from you that's not unfair it's [TS]

◼   ► like it's not a big vertical thumbs up [TS]

◼   ► right [TS]

◼   ► it's not a thumbs down right it's kind [TS]

◼   ► of a thumb pointing at about eight or [TS]

◼   ► ten o'clock on the clock because you're [TS]

◼   ► turning this binary scale into actually [TS]

◼   ► a rotational scale right that's what's [TS]

◼   ► occurring there [TS]

◼   ► yeah i'm using your thumbs up thumbs [TS]

◼   ► down in my way right and i'm just [TS]

◼   ► picturing all the teams at home right [TS]

◼   ► now holding up their family pointing at [TS]

◼   ► about ten o'clock yeah okay I see what [TS]

◼   ► he means if you're doing it i can see [TS]

◼   ► you there you go [TS]

◼   ► did you do it I didn't do it reading now [TS]

◼   ► and why would I be doing your thumbs up [TS]

◼   ► and 45 or at ten o'clock i don't [TS]

◼   ► understand why would be doing that where [TS]

◼   ► does your thumb point on this great give [TS]

◼   ► me your big picture [TS]

◼   ► ok so big picture [TS]

◼   ► I have to say that what i really liked [TS]

◼   ► and what I kept feeling throughout the [TS]

◼   ► movie was I enjoy this universe and I [TS]

◼   ► really enjoy this star wars universe and [TS]

◼   ► unlike the really terrible movies I felt [TS]

◼   ► like rode one is a movie that is so [TS]

◼   ► clearly in the star wars universe as it [TS]

◼   ► is in my head all of the sets look great [TS]

◼   ► all of the costume design looks great [TS]

◼   ► all of the physical items and props and [TS]

◼   ► like everything that they're doing it [TS]

◼   ► just looks Star Wars it feels Star Wars [TS]

◼   ► it sounds like Star Wars and I'm sitting [TS]

◼   ► there in the theater thinking where I [TS]

◼   ► really just I love this universe like [TS]

◼   ► this universe is burned into my brain [TS]

◼   ► but I i have to say i thought this movie [TS]

◼   ► was just like a disaster as mess I i'm [TS]

◼   ► not a fan [TS]

◼   ► I have to say I really really it's not [TS]

◼   ► that I didn't like it is not like oh [TS]

◼   ► what a terrible movie it but it's just [TS]

◼   ► this word is the word that keeps coming [TS]

◼   ► into my mind like it's a sloppy mess [TS]

◼   ► there's just as much as like oh I want [TS]

◼   ► to see a bunch of Star Wars stuff and [TS]

◼   ► that is that is like great [TS]

◼   ► it also felt like there's just Star Wars [TS]

◼   ► junk all over the place where where's [TS]

◼   ► ipping all over the universe were going [TS]

◼   ► to all of these different locations [TS]

◼   ► I understand what's happening but [TS]

◼   ► there's just too much going on there [TS]

◼   ► isn't like a clear story line heading [TS]

◼   ► heading through it and it just it's a [TS]

◼   ► mess like I think that that's that's my [TS]

◼   ► my like blurb on the movie poster like [TS]

◼   ► Star Wars road one it's a mess like [TS]

◼   ► that's that's how it feels to be [TS]

◼   ► watching it and so I feel like I saw the [TS]

◼   ► movie last night for the first time and [TS]

◼   ► I always like to just watch a movie and [TS]

◼   ► have let it wash over me and then I saw [TS]

◼   ► it this morning to take some notes on [TS]

◼   ► some particular things and and to pay [TS]

◼   ► attention to some of the scenes that I [TS]

◼   ► was thinking about from last night and I [TS]

◼   ► just feel totally reconfirmed in my my [TS]

◼   ► takeaway like it's just it's just a mess [TS]

◼   ► it feels like i don't know maybe that [TS]

◼   ► maybe the scriptures was rushed or I [TS]

◼   ► don't know what it is but it just it [TS]

◼   ► doesn't hold together for me as [TS]

◼   ► as a movie and on my first watching I [TS]

◼   ► felt completely totally uninvolved [TS]

◼   ► emotionally throughout ninety-five [TS]

◼   ► percent of the entire running of the [TS]

◼   ► film that is its biggest downfall from [TS]

◼   ► 80 for the lack of emotional engagement [TS]

◼   ► and any level of care about the [TS]

◼   ► characters even I can't disagree with [TS]

◼   ► you about it being a mess gray and [TS]

◼   ► there's no better way than to realize [TS]

◼   ► what a mess it is then to read the plot [TS]

◼   ► summary on wikipedia and you just get [TS]

◼   ► like I tried to read it three or four [TS]

◼   ► times and it's just like the fact that [TS]

◼   ► give it every one such ridiculous names [TS]

◼   ► doesn't help [TS]

◼   ► no but yeah you've got things like Jean [TS]

◼   ► and/or and his reprogram Imperial Droid [TS]

◼   ► k 2 s.o travel to Jenna where the [TS]

◼   ► Empire's mining Kyber crystals to power [TS]

◼   ► the superweapon Herrera and his [TS]

◼   ► partisans are engaged in armed [TS]

◼   ► insurgency against them with the aid of [TS]

◼   ► a blind warrior cheer up in we and [TS]

◼   ► mercenary Bay's Melba's gin makes [TS]

◼   ► contact with kanima what are what [TS]

◼   ► yeah it and they go to more places than [TS]

◼   ► they needed to have this feeling about [TS]

◼   ► movies that you can know what a movie is [TS]

◼   ► like very fast right within the first [TS]

◼   ► two scenes of the movie lots of movies [TS]

◼   ► will have an establishing pre something [TS]

◼   ► happening scene and so in Star Wars [TS]

◼   ► grove won its it's the opening scene [TS]

◼   ► about the Empire's coming to find their [TS]

◼   ► scientists who is hiding out in Iceland [TS]

◼   ► being a farmer which i think is a [TS]

◼   ► terrible place to be a farmer [TS]

◼   ► there's like this little contain story [TS]

◼   ► and like that's good like that's fine [TS]

◼   ► that feels like this is the start of the [TS]

◼   ► movie but immediately after that and I [TS]

◼   ► was just curious like I was making out a [TS]

◼   ► little time running because I just [TS]

◼   ► wanted to see like how did my initial [TS]

◼   ► impressions matchup with the reality of [TS]

◼   ► what the what the movie is and it's like [TS]

◼   ► okay the first eight minutes are great i [TS]

◼   ► think it's like this is a nice opening [TS]

◼   ► for Star Wars movie it's it's clear [TS]

◼   ► what's happening [TS]

◼   ► the Empire is coming to take a guy who [TS]

◼   ► doesn't want to go to build a weapon got [TS]

◼   ► it right we're all were all fine we're [TS]

◼   ► all on board and then I timed it in the [TS]

◼   ► next five minutes we go to five [TS]

◼   ► different planets and are introduced to [TS]

◼   ► something like eight characters [TS]

◼   ► and and that to me was watching the [TS]

◼   ► movie for the first time I felt like oh [TS]

◼   ► no we're in a little bit of trouble here [TS]

◼   ► like I'm we're at the third planet that [TS]

◼   ► has a little overlay on the bottom of [TS]

◼   ► what the name of the place is and what [TS]

◼   ► it is and it's like I'm following you [TS]

◼   ► movie but i'm having a hard time [TS]

◼   ► focusing on what is the thing that I'm [TS]

◼   ► supposed to care about like like this is [TS]

◼   ► the thing that i find fascinating about [TS]

◼   ► movies why in some movies do they [TS]

◼   ► emotionally grab you and why do some [TS]

◼   ► other movies just completely failed to [TS]

◼   ► grab you and I I i think that in this [TS]

◼   ► movie the reason it fails to grab me is [TS]

◼   ► there's just there's just too much going [TS]

◼   ► on right at the start and it's it's hard [TS]

◼   ► to know where to focus your mind on what [TS]

◼   ► part of the story writer who matters era [TS]

◼   ► well I kind of feel like I know where [TS]

◼   ► you stand should we go through the film [TS]

◼   ► a bit and find out why this is the case [TS]

◼   ► let's go through the film ho ho Merry [TS]

◼   ► Christmas [TS]

◼   ► hello Internet listeners and patrons [TS]

◼   ► this Star Wars Christmas episode is [TS]

◼   ► brought to you solely and exclusively by [TS]

◼   ► our wonderful supporters over at patreon [TS]

◼   ► we really appreciate you guys and hope [TS]

◼   ► that you enjoy this discussion of Star [TS]

◼   ► Wars road one if you'd like to support [TS]

◼   ► the show you two can go to [TS]

◼   ► patreon.com/scishow ash [TS]

◼   ► hello Internet thank you to our patrons [TS]

◼   ► thank you to our listeners and a merry [TS]

◼   ► Christmas to you all [TS]

◼   ► now when i was walking to the cinema [TS]

◼   ► isn't it kind of crept up on me having [TS]

◼   ► to say this film so I didn't have time [TS]

◼   ► to know how I felt about it but when i [TS]

◼   ► was walking down the hill to my little [TS]

◼   ► local cinema I suddenly got a little [TS]

◼   ► excited moment when I thought I can't [TS]

◼   ► wait for that moment when I'm going to [TS]

◼   ► be sitting in the cinema and the fanfare [TS]

◼   ► is going to happen again and like i'm [TS]

◼   ► going to have that feeling right and [TS]

◼   ► then it but he didn't happen [TS]

◼   ► they don't do it don't do it in these in [TS]

◼   ► between films that turns out we're not [TS]

◼   ► going to have the rousing star wars on [TS]

◼   ► the screen and the john williams music [TS]

◼   ► we still get a long time ago in a galaxy [TS]

◼   ► far far away but then it just kind of [TS]

◼   ► and then I was sweating over here comes [TS]

◼   ► here comes here comes not know i think [TS]

◼   ► in the long run that's probably a good [TS]

◼   ► decision [TS]

◼   ► yep i think that for the alternate [TS]

◼   ► movies they don't want to get tied down [TS]

◼   ► into having to do that exact same [TS]

◼   ► fanfare every time [TS]

◼   ► yeah because that there is there is much [TS]

◼   ► we might discuss later that i would hope [TS]

◼   ► they might do in the star wars universe [TS]

◼   ► and I think that fanfare might not be [TS]

◼   ► appropriate for absolutely everything [TS]

◼   ► but I i agree with you i found it really [TS]

◼   ► jarring and and suddenly it seemed like [TS]

◼   ► everything was wrong in my head with [TS]

◼   ► user with an opening thing I even [TS]

◼   ► looking at the font of the road one like [TS]

◼   ► I don't know everything is all wrong [TS]

◼   ► like this is I'm a braced for a thing [TS]

◼   ► and it's no good [TS]

◼   ► it's started by disappointing me I even [TS]

◼   ► here's my note written before the film [TS]

◼   ► started i'm excited about the fan filled [TS]

◼   ► with that feeling of excitement ever go [TS]

◼   ► away [TS]

◼   ► well I went away pretty quick because it [TS]

◼   ► didn't happen style or I was a pretty [TS]

◼   ► cool start like you said in little [TS]

◼   ► Icelandic a place [TS]

◼   ► no although I have to say even here [TS]

◼   ► there was one little note that struck me [TS]

◼   ► as a little bit wrong and confusing and [TS]

◼   ► there's a bunch of points in the movie [TS]

◼   ► that I think are like this where the [TS]

◼   ► stormtroopers come in right there [TS]

◼   ► they're looking for their scientists [TS]

◼   ► they're searching for his daughter and [TS]

◼   ► that they're searching around the house [TS]

◼   ► and one of the stormtroopers bends down [TS]

◼   ► and picks up a little storm trooper Dahl [TS]

◼   ► which is evidence of the fact that the [TS]

◼   ► girl was there and I remember thinking [TS]

◼   ► like why would a fugitive from running [TS]

◼   ► from the Empire give his daughter a [TS]

◼   ► storm trooper Dahl to play with it was a [TS]

◼   ► little thing that set off like a flag in [TS]

◼   ► my mind like if this is this is going to [TS]

◼   ► come back up later or is this just a [TS]

◼   ► weird i don't know if i want to call it [TS]

◼   ► a mistake but it's just a strange thing [TS]

◼   ► it you know it's like I cannot imagine [TS]

◼   ► someone who has been like persecuted by [TS]

◼   ► a government giving their child a toy to [TS]

◼   ► play with that represents that [TS]

◼   ► government like that's that seems like a [TS]

◼   ► really weird really weird note to land [TS]

◼   ► on it was strange [TS]

◼   ► it was strange whether or not that's the [TS]

◼   ► star wars universe equivalent of toy [TS]

◼   ► soldiers and stuff i don't know but it [TS]

◼   ► was [TS]

◼   ► suny by the felt like something was [TS]

◼   ► gonna come over or felt like like the [TS]

◼   ► worst toy placement in the history of [TS]

◼   ► thai place isn't it great [TS]

◼   ► also in that early saying they had the [TS]

◼   ► blue milk obviously was will appeared [TS]

◼   ► and like I had a little smile to myself [TS]

◼   ► and thought I'm not gonna mind a little [TS]

◼   ► bit of fanservice that's okay [TS]

◼   ► little did I know how much more [TS]

◼   ► fanservice was about to be shoved down [TS]

◼   ► my throat in the next half an hour to an [TS]

◼   ► hour yet to the point where I was [TS]

◼   ► gagging on it [TS]

◼   ► yeah please no more blue milk and sake [TS]

◼   ► yes I i agree and end it also when we [TS]

◼   ► were watching it's like I recognize you [TS]

◼   ► blue milk but I'm concerned how central [TS]

◼   ► you were in the shot [TS]

◼   ► yeah right like it's not like oh there [TS]

◼   ► was blue milk on the counter in the [TS]

◼   ► background there was blue milk literally [TS]

◼   ► obstructing the actress makes shopping [TS]

◼   ► what she was doing for a second [TS]

◼   ► like do you see the blue milk there is [TS]

◼   ► blue milk in front of her we want to [TS]

◼   ► make sure that you don't miss it [TS]

◼   ► yeah and and yes i agree as well like [TS]

◼   ► it's a it's an indication of what is [TS]

◼   ► going to come and we can discuss the [TS]

◼   ► fanservice but that is an ad one minute [TS]

◼   ► and 37 seconds into the film so it [TS]

◼   ► begins with the blue milk [TS]

◼   ► yeah they're so we had a we had a [TS]

◼   ► starting sequence and and then we had [TS]

◼   ► the different the different music for [TS]

◼   ► the title mhm so it sounded almost like [TS]

◼   ► it sounded like they couldn't get the [TS]

◼   ► rights to the style of music so they had [TS]

◼   ► some amateur write something that sounds [TS]

◼   ► star wars ii mhm and but it it jarred [TS]

◼   ► like it charge of me it was like I know [TS]

◼   ► they I know they're trying to give these [TS]

◼   ► things their own distinctive brand and [TS]

◼   ► say this is different from the who you [TS]

◼   ► know the classic important trilogies but [TS]

◼   ► it was it was almost overbearing and [TS]

◼   ► it's different guess who [TS]

◼   ► which was a little bit of a worry but [TS]

◼   ► anyway we cracked on and so the film [TS]

◼   ► began landing and the next thing I wrote [TS]

◼   ► something you've already touched on i [TS]

◼   ► wrote gosh there are a lot of different [TS]

◼   ► places here and the text on the screen [TS]

◼   ► identifying the places you know the [TS]

◼   ► little text that came up and gave us the [TS]

◼   ► name of the planet and even explain what [TS]

◼   ► the planet was who was something I had [TS]

◼   ► very mixed feelings about why mixed [TS]

◼   ► feelings [TS]

◼   ► my initial feeling is this is wrong [TS]

◼   ► this is not what happens in a Star Wars [TS]

◼   ► movie and it's funny I think I've got [TS]

◼   ► I've got a bit of a double standard here [TS]

◼   ► and I'm aware of it because i'm quite [TS]

◼   ► happy to have captions when people are [TS]

◼   ► speaking alien languages and I'm also [TS]

◼   ► quite happy to have the role start the [TS]

◼   ► crawl at the start of a star wars film [TS]

◼   ► but those two things feel like I don't [TS]

◼   ► know they feel like a special exception [TS]

◼   ► but one of the things i like about the [TS]

◼   ► Styles universities it's like it's not [TS]

◼   ► there's no english language other than [TS]

◼   ► the fact everyone speaking English right [TS]

◼   ► there's no english language in texts [TS]

◼   ► mmm and-and-and this felt like it was [TS]

◼   ► breaking the rules of Star Wars by using [TS]

◼   ► English and I was still a caption on the [TS]

◼   ► screen it wasn't like a big street sign [TS]

◼   ► that said welcome to hearth but it still [TS]

◼   ► felt slightly like it was breaking the [TS]

◼   ► rules but I have mixed feelings about it [TS]

◼   ► because I also thought it did serve a [TS]

◼   ► purpose and one of the real criticisms [TS]

◼   ► of the force awakens for me as well but [TS]

◼   ► sometimes I didn't know where I was and [TS]

◼   ► what was going on and why this place was [TS]

◼   ► important and the text did take away [TS]

◼   ► that problem straightaway [TS]

◼   ► I straightaway you the context ok this [TS]

◼   ► is you know this is an imperial planet [TS]

◼   ► this is a this is what's going on here [TS]

◼   ► this is why they're here so like it did [TS]

◼   ► serve a purpose and it saved them a lot [TS]

◼   ► of potentially clumsy exposition who but [TS]

◼   ► it kind of felt like cheating and it [TS]

◼   ► kind of felt like this isn't what you do [TS]

◼   ► in the Style Wars film [TS]

◼   ► overall I don't know up when I came out [TS]

◼   ► of the film i thought it was wrong and I [TS]

◼   ► shouldn't have done that I've mellowed a [TS]

◼   ► bit now and I'm on the fence about [TS]

◼   ► whether it was a good or a bad thing [TS]

◼   ► whoo-hoo ya see that text struck me as [TS]

◼   ► immediately wrong for the same for the [TS]

◼   ► same reason [TS]

◼   ► mmm i thought like this is this feels so [TS]

◼   ► unstar Wars to me it it feels really out [TS]

◼   ► of place and it's interesting i couldn't [TS]

◼   ► have ended down the same way you do you [TS]

◼   ► just about the lack of the English [TS]

◼   ► language and in the films and maybe [TS]

◼   ► that's why it feels like it's a bit off [TS]

◼   ► somehow but I don't like it because i [TS]

◼   ► think almost always when this happens [TS]

◼   ► it's a it's a weakness of the writing of [TS]

◼   ► the movie and if they give you have to [TS]

◼   ► lean on the on-screen here's where we [TS]

◼   ► are here is what this thing is I feel [TS]

◼   ► like almost always there's a better [TS]

◼   ► way to do that yeah it mean it means [TS]

◼   ► like your locations aren't distinct [TS]

◼   ► enough or your character motivations [TS]

◼   ► aren't clear enough and i think this [TS]

◼   ► movie is a perfect example of that [TS]

◼   ► can we go to five different planets in [TS]

◼   ► five minutes with a whole bunch of [TS]

◼   ► characters you couldn't think they have [TS]

◼   ► to show you on the screen here is the [TS]

◼   ► name of a place and here's here's what [TS]

◼   ► it is ok next here's another place we're [TS]

◼   ► going to go and here's what it is ok [TS]

◼   ► next and I I just think it's like yes [TS]

◼   ► you have to do that because you're [TS]

◼   ► introducing so much but maybe you don't [TS]

◼   ► have to like maybe if you write this in [TS]

◼   ► a better way we don't have to visit all [TS]

◼   ► of the places in the universe right at [TS]

◼   ► the start [TS]

◼   ► yeah I don't know if it feels like one [TS]

◼   ► of those movies where it where they're [TS]

◼   ► like it's a political thriller right [TS]

◼   ► then and the show you like a skyline [TS]

◼   ► shot of Moscow hour and it says like [TS]

◼   ► Moscow on the bottom ya know you're [TS]

◼   ► almost waiting for like a little sound [TS]

◼   ► effect that they always use when the [TS]

◼   ► letters rollout yeah it just felt really [TS]

◼   ► it just felt really wrong [TS]

◼   ► I didn't like it and i think [TS]

◼   ► particularly in this movie it's like it [TS]

◼   ► was there was so much of it that because [TS]

◼   ► that is what this entire movie is like a [TS]

◼   ► million pieces [TS]

◼   ► eighty percent of which they could [TS]

◼   ► probably do without but for some reason [TS]

◼   ► they're going to include absolutely all [TS]

◼   ► of them but if they didn't use it [TS]

◼   ► without changing the script already know [TS]

◼   ► doing major surgery on the actual story [TS]

◼   ► I think we'd be complaining even more [TS]

◼   ► about how confused we were about what [TS]

◼   ► the hell was going on where everything [TS]

◼   ► was so if they were going to stick with [TS]

◼   ► their script then I think the text was a [TS]

◼   ► nun for unfortunately the correct [TS]

◼   ► decision i completely agree right if if [TS]

◼   ► I was like the visual effects editor on [TS]

◼   ► here and they just hand me the movie [TS]

◼   ► it's like I am putting words on these [TS]

◼   ► screens like we have to do this because [TS]

◼   ► otherwise it is way worse otherwise it's [TS]

◼   ► more confusing but I feel like those [TS]

◼   ► words are a symptom of a more [TS]

◼   ► fundamental problem that that's that's [TS]

◼   ► what they're showing you there [TS]

◼   ► yeah of course let's not forget Star [TS]

◼   ► Wars movies I famous perfect using a [TS]

◼   ► huge lot load of texts at the start to [TS]

◼   ► save himself a whole lot of storytelling [TS]

◼   ► before we get too carried away about the [TS]

◼   ► old Star Wars films about how clever [TS]

◼   ► they were by not using text based in [TS]

◼   ► favor of the book before the film [TS]

◼   ► started to bring you up to speed [TS]

◼   ► yes I let it that is the case but I also [TS]

◼   ► feel [TS]

◼   ► like I think with almost all of the [TS]

◼   ► original three movies you can blow past [TS]

◼   ► that script and it doesn't really matter [TS]

◼   ► tree like the first Star Wars like blah [TS]

◼   ► blah blah some words words words like I [TS]

◼   ► don't have any idea what the crawl say [TS]

◼   ► yeah but who cares because we open with [TS]

◼   ► a big mean-looking ship chasing a small [TS]

◼   ► ship and a guy in a black evil-looking [TS]

◼   ► suit hunting down a princess like got it [TS]

◼   ► right like I understand what's going on [TS]

◼   ► and doesn't matter what those words said [TS]

◼   ► yeah so what have you got next I've got [TS]

◼   ► lots of little bitty things here I don't [TS]

◼   ► want to get too busy but we don't want [TS]

◼   ► to get too busy and have to go through [TS]

◼   ► all of all of the plot points yeah [TS]

◼   ► butBut I think again like the reason why [TS]

◼   ► i want to lay out my my initial thoughts [TS]

◼   ► of this is I as I feel like in the first [TS]

◼   ► 20 minutes of the film you just have all [TS]

◼   ► of these problems resurfacing in in [TS]

◼   ► various ways and upset so after our [TS]

◼   ► opening scene we met we now have a scene [TS]

◼   ► with the main character guy who were [TS]

◼   ► going to be following most of the time [TS]

◼   ► talking to a rando who's about to die in [TS]

◼   ► this one little like interaction between [TS]

◼   ► the two of them right there talking [TS]

◼   ► about Jenna they're talking about Kyber [TS]

◼   ► crystals they're talking about looking [TS]

◼   ► for Saul right they mentioned somebody [TS]

◼   ► else's name which I couldn't even write [TS]

◼   ► down fast enough in the theater when I [TS]

◼   ► was waiting for the scene to make a note [TS]

◼   ► of it to talk about like Ursula or like [TS]

◼   ► some other person and there's one more [TS]

◼   ► thing and it's like okay there's two [TS]

◼   ► characters we don't know you dropped [TS]

◼   ► five totally new names [TS]

◼   ► yeah in in this little minute [TS]

◼   ► interaction between the two of them and [TS]

◼   ► it's again it's like I can follow this [TS]

◼   ► but it's too much and and I don't know [TS]

◼   ► what to pay attention to and then one of [TS]

◼   ► these two characters dies immediately [TS]

◼   ► and and our main our main guy kind of [TS]

◼   ► runs off and then boom next scene right [TS]

◼   ► we're on to the next place while you [TS]

◼   ► brush past something that is quite [TS]

◼   ► significant in the film from a because [TS]

◼   ► this main character is this i think this [TS]

◼   ► is and/or is that the car had everyone's [TS]

◼   ► names kind of lost me I think he's cold [TS]

◼   ► hand or that the main guy the main that [TS]

◼   ► this is actually though I think it quite [TS]

◼   ► vital point which is my wife and I after [TS]

◼   ► we were discussing the movies seeing it [TS]

◼   ► last night we were both aware i can to [TS]

◼   ► be with my wife like the movie a lot [TS]

◼   ► more than I [TS]

◼   ► did but neither of us could remember a [TS]

◼   ► single characters name [TS]

◼   ► yeah it's true that we didn't already [TS]

◼   ► know from somewhere else and so we kept [TS]

◼   ► having these conversations about like oh [TS]

◼   ► the guy which guide the ninja guy [TS]

◼   ► no not the ninja guy the friend of the [TS]

◼   ► ninja guy owe him the muscle right it's [TS]

◼   ► like it's just amazing to see and I [TS]

◼   ► think it's a side effect again like i [TS]

◼   ► have watched a movie for two hours in [TS]

◼   ► between two people we can't pull a [TS]

◼   ► single name out of our memory i think [TS]

◼   ► that's again an indication of what's [TS]

◼   ► going on with this main guy and or who [TS]

◼   ► becomes like a main in here the film you [TS]

◼   ► talk about him in this other guy having [TS]

◼   ► a chat and then everything kicks off but [TS]

◼   ► significantly he shoots the other guy if [TS]

◼   ► you remember like they're about to get [TS]

◼   ► caught by the stormtroopers and this guy [TS]

◼   ► is going to be baggage because he's [TS]

◼   ► injured and can't run away and and/or [TS]

◼   ► realizes realizes this situation so he [TS]

◼   ► just puts a gun to his back basically [TS]

◼   ► and shoots him he kills him there on the [TS]

◼   ► spot and I think we're supposed to be [TS]

◼   ► shocked by this and realize that he's [TS]

◼   ► this ruthless killer that would do [TS]

◼   ► anything and then he has this redemption [TS]

◼   ► story through the film and becomes the [TS]

◼   ► guy we like me but I never forgave him [TS]

◼   ► for that like like even though he [TS]

◼   ► becomes a good guy and says I've done [TS]

◼   ► some bad stuff in my time but now I but [TS]

◼   ► now I'm you know now I'm a good guy [TS]

◼   ► I I never forgot that he shot that [TS]

◼   ► behind the back and what he did to him [TS]

◼   ► and even even later on when he like you [TS]

◼   ► know does a few nice things and realizes [TS]

◼   ► the error of his ways it never left my [TS]

◼   ► head that he'd done that mean i think [TS]

◼   ► maybe they should do should have been [TS]

◼   ► quite so bad because you know it's not [TS]

◼   ► like i was shocked or you know I'm boom [TS]

◼   ► I'm like a sensitive person who like [TS]

◼   ► comes courtesy feeling yeah clutching [TS]

◼   ► your pearls that there is death on [TS]

◼   ► screen but it made me it made me [TS]

◼   ► incapable of ever sympathizing with him [TS]

◼   ► after seeing him do that the start to [TS]

◼   ► someone shoot someone in the back like [TS]

◼   ► that and kind of for some reason I was [TS]

◼   ► not a big deal is coming out like it's a [TS]

◼   ► big deal to me it wasn't but it was [TS]

◼   ► significant to me and like his [TS]

◼   ► Redemption he was never redeemed for me [TS]

◼   ► enough [TS]

◼   ► hmm i can totally agree with this and [TS]

◼   ► and the thing is I I don't necessarily [TS]

◼   ► think that little scene is a big deal [TS]

◼   ► and then also the movie blows past it so [TS]

◼   ► fast i think it's it's easy to miss [TS]

◼   ► because the first time i watched it was [TS]

◼   ► unclear to me how the shooting happened [TS]

◼   ► and then the second time it was more [TS]

◼   ► clear [TS]

◼   ► just like I just blinked at the wrong [TS]

◼   ► moment right any menu menu miss it just [TS]

◼   ► a little bit but i think it does matter [TS]

◼   ► because this is all rolled up into i [TS]

◼   ► think it's it's emblematic of another [TS]

◼   ► problem with the film which i think the [TS]

◼   ► movie is doing on purpose but they just [TS]

◼   ► do poorly which is I file under the [TS]

◼   ► category the rebels are dicks right [TS]

◼   ► there's like there's like a bunch of [TS]

◼   ► stuff where the rebels are being kind of [TS]

◼   ► dicks or things that just don't really [TS]

◼   ► work and that I think make the rebels [TS]

◼   ► unsympathetic in a whole bunch of ways [TS]

◼   ► that causes structural problems with the [TS]

◼   ► film and that that little that shooting [TS]

◼   ► in the beginning I think would be fine [TS]

◼   ► on its own but it's it's connected to a [TS]

◼   ► bunch of other stuff that then just [TS]

◼   ► doesn't work for me later in the movie [TS]

◼   ► this whole part of the film set on Jetta [TS]

◼   ► or the town the city of Jeddah might [TS]

◼   ► have to say was one of the week of parts [TS]

◼   ► of the film for me it felt terribly [TS]

◼   ► unnecessary actually other than that [TS]

◼   ► help to scoop up some of the characters [TS]

◼   ► who were going to follow us for the rest [TS]

◼   ► of the film like ninja guy and muscle [TS]

◼   ► guy and stuff but the whole thing with [TS]

◼   ► forest whitaker's character who sort of [TS]

◼   ► that the head of the rebels seem very [TS]

◼   ► unnecessary to the film it added nothing [TS]

◼   ► it seems like an unnecessary character [TS]

◼   ► and unnecessary diversion but also this [TS]

◼   ► whole part of the film is the part where [TS]

◼   ► the fanservice felt made on too thick [TS]

◼   ► and I almost felt like I was being [TS]

◼   ► patronized a bit like when the when the [TS]

◼   ► bad guys from the mosque ii campaign and [TS]

◼   ► make a sudden cameo oh my god like that [TS]

◼   ► was really that was unnecessary [TS]

◼   ► yeah that was that was so terrible and I [TS]

◼   ► hate this kind of stuff because it's [TS]

◼   ► like it makes the universe feels small [TS]

◼   ► yes the universe universe feels so small [TS]

◼   ► and so tiny and it also it's strange [TS]

◼   ► could credulity that she's going to bump [TS]

◼   ► into the two guys who show up in in a [TS]

◼   ► new hope [TS]

◼   ► but also because of the way the movie [TS]

◼   ► carries on it means not only did she [TS]

◼   ► bumped into these guys on this planet [TS]

◼   ► but they they also left the planet very [TS]

◼   ► shortly like within 30 minutes right [TS]

◼   ► they get out of there just entire and [TS]

◼   ► where did they go within the span of a [TS]

◼   ► couple of days is they go to some [TS]

◼   ► backwater planet where Lucas it's like [TS]

◼   ► it's too much right the time frame is [TS]

◼   ► just too much it's ridiculous that she [TS]

◼   ► bumps into these guys there it's it's [TS]

◼   ► pointless pointless fanservice yeah and [TS]

◼   ► that how that house saying with the [TS]

◼   ► bustling crowds and that they cram too [TS]

◼   ► much of that in and I was thinking come [TS]

◼   ► on guys la is ok i'm on board I [TS]

◼   ► understand star wars and and the other [TS]

◼   ► little by little things nice but you [TS]

◼   ► don't need to go that hard [TS]

◼   ► mm which is funny because the fan [TS]

◼   ► service that comes later the biggest fan [TS]

◼   ► service [TS]

◼   ► mm that's works because that's what this [TS]

◼   ► was about [TS]

◼   ► so some of the huge stuff I loved and I [TS]

◼   ► felt really excited about some of the [TS]

◼   ► links to New Hope felt wonderful and and [TS]

◼   ► really good i was really pleased towards [TS]

◼   ► the end of the film there's some great [TS]

◼   ► stuff but this early stuff they they [TS]

◼   ► went to her they went too hard too early [TS]

◼   ► you know that they make it they had [TS]

◼   ► their fanservice coming they didn't need [TS]

◼   ► to go this hard this early mhm they [TS]

◼   ► could have shown more restraint [TS]

◼   ► yeah the this so this whole sequence [TS]

◼   ► where they're on this this desert planet [TS]

◼   ► jetta or whatever that this is one of [TS]

◼   ► these things i wanted to see again like [TS]

◼   ► how was my memory of it versus the [TS]

◼   ► actual thing I felt so strongly that [TS]

◼   ► this this whole sequence was unnecessary [TS]

◼   ► and it seemed just like it like a [TS]

◼   ► pointless diversion that we're going to [TS]

◼   ► go to this planet to find a guy who's [TS]

◼   ► going to help us find the guy that we're [TS]

◼   ► actually looking for ya and I was [TS]

◼   ► mentally thinking like you could [TS]

◼   ► probably cut that and just have the [TS]

◼   ► movie go on but what I didn't realize is [TS]

◼   ► that sequence is really long [TS]

◼   ► right like i was thinking this this is [TS]

◼   ► like 20 minutes but that whole sequence [TS]

◼   ► takes us to more than halfway through [TS]

◼   ► the movie right like it is it is so long [TS]

◼   ► that it it's not like when we discussed [TS]

◼   ► the force awakens and we both agree that [TS]

◼   ► the weakest part is when they leave the [TS]

◼   ► planets and their with han Solo and [TS]

◼   ► they're going to fight some giant roller [TS]

◼   ► ball squid monsters on the ship right [TS]

◼   ► it's like why is this happening and you [TS]

◼   ► can you can easily imagine a version of [TS]

◼   ► the force awakens where fan does a [TS]

◼   ► supercut and they were able to get ready [TS]

◼   ► most of that and then you don't even [TS]

◼   ► notice in the movie I'm realizing if [TS]

◼   ► they cut out what i thought was a [TS]

◼   ► pointless diversion you lose like 45 [TS]

◼   ► minutes of this movie where they're down [TS]

◼   ► there on on Jetta doing this thing that [TS]

◼   ► I think is totally pointless it's a huge [TS]

◼   ► sequence and it's also like it's so it's [TS]

◼   ► so convoluted because you blew past what [TS]

◼   ► to me is sets up like a fundamental [TS]

◼   ► problem in the whole movie which is [TS]

◼   ► before we even get down to jetta the the [TS]

◼   ► rebels are dicks thing is we we show the [TS]

◼   ► rebels capturing the main girl who's the [TS]

◼   ► Djinn I think your gentleman like even [TS]

◼   ► knows where the characters are [TS]

◼   ► pronouncing her name differently the [TS]

◼   ► rebels kidnap her from some sort of [TS]

◼   ► labor camp it's like it's like a rescue [TS]

◼   ► but it feels a lot like a kidnap because [TS]

◼   ► the rebels are then taking her back to [TS]

◼   ► the rebel base and forcing her to do [TS]

◼   ► with thing that she doesn't want to [TS]

◼   ► write they just straight-up saying like [TS]

◼   ► I will hand you back to the Empire [TS]

◼   ► unless you unless you do what we want [TS]

◼   ► it's like okay you don't seem like great [TS]

◼   ► people right now you know she's she's [TS]

◼   ► just passed from one prison to [TS]

◼   ► essentially another prison [TS]

◼   ► yeah and and like okay the great rebels [TS]

◼   ► you like I would like you a lot more if [TS]

◼   ► you have a sequence where you were [TS]

◼   ► rescuing her from a horrible situation [TS]

◼   ► and she wants to help you because of [TS]

◼   ► what you've done but it's very different [TS]

◼   ► if you're just straight up kidnapping [TS]

◼   ► her [TS]

◼   ► so here is the actual sequence because i [TS]

◼   ► had to write it down this is the plan as [TS]

◼   ► explained by the rebels they want to [TS]

◼   ► take her to jetta to find Saul Guerrera [TS]

◼   ► yeah as far as America yeah who has the [TS]

◼   ► pilot and the pilot will take them to [TS]

◼   ► her father and they're going to take her [TS]

◼   ► father to the Senate for testimony like [TS]

◼   ► you've got to be kidding me like we [TS]

◼   ► don't need it and and this is like [TS]

◼   ► everything in the movie is like this [TS]

◼   ► like guys do a second pass on this [TS]

◼   ► script just have the daughter know where [TS]

◼   ► the father is right just have that you [TS]

◼   ► can just have her no and the rebels [TS]

◼   ► rescue her and she wants to help but we [TS]

◼   ► don't need this and it's like so many [TS]

◼   ► unnecessary characters but like okay [TS]

◼   ► we're not even trying to find a guy who [TS]

◼   ► knows where the guy we're looking for is [TS]

◼   ► we're trying to find a guy who has a guy [TS]

◼   ► who knows where the guy we're moving and [TS]

◼   ► on top of that I almost lost my god damn [TS]

◼   ► mind because when they get down to the [TS]

◼   ► planet they blow past it so quickly but [TS]

◼   ► but the food cassie is and/or he has a [TS]

◼   ► little line to her he's like oh he I [TS]

◼   ► know and he mentioned some other name [TS]

◼   ► like this bounty hunter dude who's [TS]

◼   ► working for salt Guerrera like oh I'm [TS]

◼   ► going to find this person who's going to [TS]

◼   ► bring us to Saul Guerrero who has the [TS]

◼   ► pilot right I can't [TS]

◼   ► why like why do you need all of these [TS]

◼   ► steps it's just it's like I can follow [TS]

◼   ► it it's just it's just a straight line [TS]

◼   ► but it's it's crazy making that you need [TS]

◼   ► all of these steps toys gray toys you [TS]

◼   ► need more styles figures I i guess but [TS]

◼   ► it's like you have this ridiculous [TS]

◼   ► convoluted path for a sequence of which [TS]

◼   ► the entirety of it as unnecessary and [TS]

◼   ► complex and is it just like I was so [TS]

◼   ► uninvolved for the this first hour of [TS]

◼   ► the movie I'm like yeah I don't care [TS]

◼   ► about any of these people [TS]

◼   ► this is like Saul Guerrero like in my [TS]

◼   ► mind his is the only character i can [TS]

◼   ► vaguely remember because my brain kept [TS]

◼   ► changing his name to like Che Guevara [TS]

◼   ► every time people were saying and I'm [TS]

◼   ► like okay we're looking for a che [TS]

◼   ► guevara and it's like okay there's this [TS]

◼   ► dude is he crazy like he's a terrorist [TS]

◼   ► so should I care about him but he raised [TS]

◼   ► our main character but now he seems like [TS]

◼   ► he's also he's also a monster [TS]

◼   ► she's being forced into this by rebels [TS]

◼   ► who are being dicks who by the way are [TS]

◼   ► just going to assassinate her father [TS]

◼   ► anyway likes what she doesn't even know [TS]

◼   ► so it's like there's just nobody to root [TS]

◼   ► for there's this really convoluted thing [TS]

◼   ► and this is this to me is like the heart [TS]

◼   ► of it right here is like complicated [TS]

◼   ► mess you could just sweep away and [TS]

◼   ► replace with a simpler better movie whoa [TS]

◼   ► also just one more thing can make the [TS]

◼   ► rebels even less likable if that was [TS]

◼   ► possible is they also make them really [TS]

◼   ► like bureaucratic and I have lots of [TS]

◼   ► meetings and they can never agree on [TS]

◼   ► anything and they sit around and [TS]

◼   ► committees all the time it's like the [TS]

◼   ► one thing you like about the rebels is [TS]

◼   ► there like a starfish let's just get the [TS]

◼   ► guns out and blow that they have [TS]

◼   ► right but now that now they're like [TS]

◼   ► their own little mini-set having [TS]

◼   ► meetings and disagreements and like cut [TS]

◼   ► their crippled by inactivity it's like [TS]

◼   ► out like this is the reason rebels form [TS]

◼   ► is to get away from the bureaucracy [TS]

◼   ► right but like offers starting with the [TS]

◼   ► bureaucracy [TS]

◼   ► ok what's with all the politics to did [TS]

◼   ► George like a snake back into the [TS]

◼   ► writing room for that part yeah it was [TS]

◼   ► the hat i totally agree that there's [TS]

◼   ► things that they're like oh we can't get [TS]

◼   ► everybody to agree like you're the [TS]

◼   ► rebels like it should be clear that the [TS]

◼   ► app the other problem was all this was [TS]

◼   ► swirling around our main character gin [TS]

◼   ► and we should talk about her at some [TS]

◼   ► point because she was completely I [TS]

◼   ► didn't like I was not very engaged with [TS]

◼   ► her at all like I didn't know I never [TS]

◼   ► really i never really sort of like tor [TS]

◼   ► understood her story or her [TS]

◼   ► transformation didn't do much for me [TS]

◼   ► either and she was kind of I mean a lot [TS]

◼   ► of our read a lot of people saying you [TS]

◼   ► know she carried the film apparently and [TS]

◼   ► she was good not you know she's a good [TS]

◼   ► actress she did a good job but the [TS]

◼   ► character wasn't very well developed and [TS]

◼   ► from the start i didn't really feel much [TS]

◼   ► for and then when she changed i didn't [TS]

◼   ► feel much and so all of this stuff's all [TS]

◼   ► of these weird people who are unlockable [TS]

◼   ► for various reasons swirling around Gen [TS]

◼   ► and Gen I didn't really care about [TS]

◼   ► I didn't find an unlikable like some [TS]

◼   ► other characters but she was just a bit [TS]

◼   ► she was just there as well really how [TS]

◼   ► long for the ride [TS]

◼   ► yeah i totally agree that this movie she [TS]

◼   ► has to be really likable you have to be [TS]

◼   ► rooting for her [TS]

◼   ► yeah right and i found myself at one [TS]

◼   ► point like it that there were three [TS]

◼   ► little moments in the movie where I kind [TS]

◼   ► of had to laugh but it's but at some [TS]

◼   ► point of the movie when I was just [TS]

◼   ► mildly distracted and watching it and [TS]

◼   ► wants to have will start to like giggle [TS]

◼   ► because I kept having this thought of [TS]

◼   ► like well she was in prison like maybe I [TS]

◼   ► want to hear the Empire story about why [TS]

◼   ► these girls in prison because we've just [TS]

◼   ► made it really clear that she's been [TS]

◼   ► working with his terrorist organization [TS]

◼   ► that even the rebels don't like so like [TS]

◼   ► maybe she's done some really terrible [TS]

◼   ► stuff you know and it's like when you [TS]

◼   ► find your mind wandering like I want to [TS]

◼   ► know what the Empire thinks about this [TS]

◼   ► girl maybe they have a point it's like I [TS]

◼   ► think you have not achieved what you [TS]

◼   ► want movie which is that I should really [TS]

◼   ► be rooting for this girl [TS]

◼   ► supposed to wondering like there might [TS]

◼   ► be more to her story then we're hearing [TS]

◼   ► here yeah well let's let's let's let's [TS]

◼   ► let's go back to the transcript for [TS]

◼   ► those trials like I want to find out [TS]

◼   ► what was going on [TS]

◼   ► whereas in that force awakens Daisy [TS]

◼   ► Ridley character the lead there [TS]

◼   ► yeah like you're just completely [TS]

◼   ► enchanted by and like you are you coming [TS]

◼   ► out of that film feeling good about her [TS]

◼   ► like she's just you just go so I was [TS]

◼   ► just so taken with her her character and [TS]

◼   ► her story and this one like you know at [TS]

◼   ► the end she's on the beach then I'm [TS]

◼   ► thinking well yeah exactly thanks thanks [TS]

◼   ► for helping out with the plans and but [TS]

◼   ► you were a fantastic tool thank you very [TS]

◼   ► much [TS]

◼   ► moving right along yeah I i agree Daisy [TS]

◼   ► Ridley was obviously amazing in in force [TS]

◼   ► awakens this girl I have to say I think [TS]

◼   ► she was a good actress [TS]

◼   ► yeah definitely definitely better than [TS]

◼   ► some of the other people i'm going to [TS]

◼   ► complain about later [TS]

◼   ► yeah but the character itself as written [TS]

◼   ► I I felt just again uninvolved with like [TS]

◼   ► okay maybe you're a criminal and you're [TS]

◼   ► being blackmailed into doing a thing and [TS]

◼   ► I don't really care about you like the [TS]

◼   ► end two more things on the desert planet [TS]

◼   ► and the town of jetta one is we saw much [TS]

◼   ► more agile stormtroopers in some of [TS]

◼   ► those fights anes and I quite liked it i [TS]

◼   ► quite like saying stormtroopers being a [TS]

◼   ► little bit more capable steel cannon [TS]

◼   ► fodder yeah but they seem to have like [TS]

◼   ► special ops stormtroopers ya like like [TS]

◼   ► the guys in black was like oh no now [TS]

◼   ► we're trying to be serious [TS]

◼   ► yeah so so I that was about that but one [TS]

◼   ► thing I do not approve of me is seeing a [TS]

◼   ► Star Destroyer down at Planet level who [TS]

◼   ► that's that seems wrong to me and also [TS]

◼   ► it seems like it should be like not [TS]

◼   ► technically feasible like they should be [TS]

◼   ► built in space and one of the joys of [TS]

◼   ► seeing the crash star destroyer in the [TS]

◼   ► force awakens on the planet [TS]

◼   ► it creates that feeling that the worst [TS]

◼   ► possible thing that could happen to a [TS]

◼   ► star destroyers of falls down onto a [TS]

◼   ► planet because let you know that that's [TS]

◼   ► where they crash and die and it just [TS]

◼   ► seems it seems wrong to me and it feel [TS]

◼   ► it felt like it demeans the awesomeness [TS]

◼   ► of stardestroyers to see them down at [TS]

◼   ► Planet level that makes them seem a [TS]

◼   ► little bit more jokey and also makes [TS]

◼   ► them seem less awesome that they can [TS]

◼   ► just come down and do that so I didn't [TS]

◼   ► like that I didn't like it it's an [TS]

◼   ► excellent point it didn't it didn't [TS]

◼   ► cross my mind until [TS]

◼   ► they were there are many things in the [TS]

◼   ► movie we're feeling like there's [TS]

◼   ► something wrong with this and I can't [TS]

◼   ► quite figure out what and the Star [TS]

◼   ► Destroyer when it was just hovering over [TS]

◼   ► the city and I thought it just didn't [TS]

◼   ► cross my mind is like okay it's fine but [TS]

◼   ► the shot where they show it flying away [TS]

◼   ► both times i kept thinking like [TS]

◼   ► something's wrong about this and I don't [TS]

◼   ► know what it is and and I i agree with [TS]

◼   ► you like you're right that it feels like [TS]

◼   ► the Star Destroyers should be in real [TS]

◼   ► trouble if they're ever in the [TS]

◼   ► atmosphere [TS]

◼   ► yeah and and this this strikes the wrong [TS]

◼   ► note by having it so close to the pair's [TS]

◼   ► planet's surface knowing that Star [TS]

◼   ► Destroyers can come down to a planet is [TS]

◼   ► like when you realize that r2 d2 can fly [TS]

◼   ► right yeah it's like no no I don't want [TS]

◼   ► that to be possible [TS]

◼   ► yeah and it's like there are many [TS]

◼   ► situations in the other movies where [TS]

◼   ► this would be quite useful to do right [TS]

◼   ► like it so much I was the flight with [TS]

◼   ► the entire I think I'd be having more [TS]

◼   ► star destroyers and ground level I think [TS]

◼   ► this would solve a lot of problems yes [TS]

◼   ► send them had a heart instead of those [TS]

◼   ► slow walkers dropping them a hundred [TS]

◼   ► miles away from the base and having them [TS]

◼   ► slowly trudged to the bites [TS]

◼   ► yeah like we just landed Star Destroyer [TS]

◼   ► we don't we don't even have to fight [TS]

◼   ► just literally landed on the ground and [TS]

◼   ► crush the big three they mean they must [TS]

◼   ► have one to spare right just knock it [TS]

◼   ► out of the sky a saying that happens [TS]

◼   ► around this time up in space somewhere [TS]

◼   ► is when we first say Grand Moff Tarkin [TS]

◼   ► for the first time that first scene [TS]

◼   ► where you see him with you know looking [TS]

◼   ► like peter cushing the actor who played [TS]

◼   ► him in the original film my goodness [TS]

◼   ► that was breathtaking how much you look [TS]

◼   ► like him and they knew it too when they [TS]

◼   ► made it because they some account of [TS]

◼   ► what they did but they either did [TS]

◼   ► something with the sound of the camera [TS]

◼   ► work when we first see his face [TS]

◼   ► I was like I almost gasped was so Bo [TS]

◼   ► done see now I thought it was google [TS]

◼   ► 'ish I i have to say when when I heard [TS]

◼   ► Grand Moff Tarkin voice I like wow they [TS]

◼   ► have nailed the voice of this person [TS]

◼   ► yeah right but when they do the reveal [TS]

◼   ► it looks it just all i kept thinking of [TS]

◼   ► is this is the best video game animation [TS]

◼   ► i have ever seen [TS]

◼   ► all I'm gonna say is like I could not [TS]

◼   ► accept the reality of him in every scene [TS]

◼   ► now again like this is an interesting [TS]

◼   ► thing because I didn't know he was going [TS]

◼   ► to be in the movie and [TS]

◼   ► I mean the key to me he obviously looks [TS]

◼   ► like just a cgi face right over over the [TS]

◼   ► actual actor and it's like they did a [TS]

◼   ► really good job with that like I'm not [TS]

◼   ► going to deny it's an incredible job but [TS]

◼   ► i think they didn't do as good of a job [TS]

◼   ► as the movie feels like it is the movie [TS]

◼   ► acts like this is totally seamless and [TS]

◼   ► no one will ever notice and I felt like [TS]

◼   ► man if you're going to do this like you [TS]

◼   ► have a great render but but don't have [TS]

◼   ► like a full front up shot of him it was [TS]

◼   ► just it to me it was really unconvincing [TS]

◼   ► and I hated every scene with him maybe I [TS]

◼   ► need to say again because I thought that [TS]

◼   ► one works so well that I almost thought [TS]

◼   ► they did they find someone that just [TS]

◼   ► looks like that like a kind of fun and I [TS]

◼   ► maybe I wasn't paying enough attention [TS]

◼   ► but for male form a gram of talk and [TS]

◼   ► work obviously me princess leiden will [TS]

◼   ► come to that later but yeah but the but [TS]

◼   ► the talk of one did work for me and I [TS]

◼   ► was like I thought that was really good [TS]

◼   ► anyway yeah but i think this this is [TS]

◼   ► just a question of light of how [TS]

◼   ► sensitive you are to the stuff and i [TS]

◼   ► feel like because I've seen a lot of [TS]

◼   ► video games things like he just he just [TS]

◼   ► kept reading to me as a videogame render [TS]

◼   ► character i just want to say with with [TS]

◼   ► target though this this is again you [TS]

◼   ► talk about like the the star wars fan [TS]

◼   ► service and and talking to me is a good [TS]

◼   ► example along with Darth Vader who will [TS]

◼   ► get to later of your putting all of this [TS]

◼   ► stuff in this movie because we know it [TS]

◼   ► from the other Star Wars movies but I [TS]

◼   ► just kept feeling like do we have to [TS]

◼   ► have targeting here like his is his [TS]

◼   ► character in this movie [TS]

◼   ► absolutely necessary and and i don't i [TS]

◼   ► don't think so [TS]

◼   ► like I think you could again do a [TS]

◼   ► version of this movie where you have the [TS]

◼   ► kind of sniveling power climbing [TS]

◼   ► subordinate under Tarkin be the entire [TS]

◼   ► roll like I don't think you need the [TS]

◼   ► conflict between these two guys [TS]

◼   ► I don't think he needs to be there [TS]

◼   ► except that it feels like they really [TS]

◼   ► want to keep tying this movie to the [TS]

◼   ► other movies and so that's why targets [TS]

◼   ► here right that's why not like mothers [TS]

◼   ► here like that's why a whole bunch of [TS]

◼   ► other people are here and I'd and I just [TS]

◼   ► kept feeling like they're unnecessary [TS]

◼   ► write these people don't need to be here [TS]

◼   ► I didn't feel that way about talk and I [TS]

◼   ► thought I thought for the rogue one to [TS]

◼   ► work it did have to have several [TS]

◼   ► connections with new hope like I had to [TS]

◼   ► have there had to be a few threads and [TS]

◼   ► cables connecting otherwise it would [TS]

◼   ► feel like it was just stuck in there [TS]

◼   ► like filler between a couple of bricks [TS]

◼   ► and not really seamless and I thought [TS]

◼   ► having a few different threads worked [TS]

◼   ► and I thought he liked the rivalry [TS]

◼   ► between him and then Mendelssohn's [TS]

◼   ► character wasn't particularly necessary [TS]

◼   ► or interesting you but having him there [TS]

◼   ► was good because because also made it [TS]

◼   ► all so suddenly made his death in New [TS]

◼   ► Hope same more significant because when [TS]

◼   ► you think about a new hope especially if [TS]

◼   ► you're a kid watching he's just a bit of [TS]

◼   ► a boring out man and like when he when [TS]

◼   ► he dies on the Death Star it's not like [TS]

◼   ► it's not like Darth Vader dying is that [TS]

◼   ► it's like it's just some old bureaucrat [TS]

◼   ► dying but now when you see what he's [TS]

◼   ► done before and his association with the [TS]

◼   ► deathstone all that but it doesn't view [TS]

◼   ► that with a bit more meaning and in a [TS]

◼   ► way that worked for me [TS]

◼   ► my likes I like seeing him in this film [TS]

◼   ► and maybe when i watch again the face [TS]

◼   ► will embarrass me a bit but kind of that [TS]

◼   ► kind of work for me and I liked it I [TS]

◼   ► liked it I liked having him in the film [TS]

◼   ► mmm hehe i thought he belonged in the [TS]

◼   ► film i thought a film about the birth of [TS]

◼   ► the Death Star and the undoing of the [TS]

◼   ► death star would have felt wrong without [TS]

◼   ► the guy we all know was like the boss of [TS]

◼   ► the death star so I'm quite happy was in [TS]

◼   ► the film ya again I'd I just think if [TS]

◼   ► you're going to have him in there it's [TS]

◼   ► the cgi didn't work well enough for me [TS]

◼   ► for him to be a major character [TS]

◼   ► yeah and I just I just kept feeling like [TS]

◼   ► it was ghoulish every time he was on [TS]

◼   ► screen and not in a good way [TS]

◼   ► one other saying that I thought was very [TS]

◼   ► that I like just because I like the look [TS]

◼   ► of a was lit the Death Star taking out [TS]

◼   ► gender & eclipsing the Sun as [TS]

◼   ► same time yeah that was good that was [TS]

◼   ► good ok i was showing off but it was [TS]

◼   ► thought that was just a lot of just a [TS]

◼   ► pretty piece of special-effects I [TS]

◼   ► thought that was a really nice little [TS]

◼   ► sequence yeah happy i will definitely go [TS]

◼   ► along with that I'll go along with that [TS]

◼   ► cool alright anymore jetta stuff or [TS]

◼   ► should we should we find our way off of [TS]

◼   ► general somehow we can get our way off [TS]

◼   ► of jetta but i just think it is it gets [TS]

◼   ► sometimes i get so many furious notes [TS]

◼   ► and Jenna it's just it's just it's [TS]

◼   ► because i kept being I kept being amazed [TS]

◼   ► at how long the sequence was like that i [TS]

◼   ► thought was cuttable and it's like [TS]

◼   ► there's so much stuff in here but again [TS]

◼   ► another thing that I felt is emblematic [TS]

◼   ► of the movie is that they have their [TS]

◼   ► this like this very brief scene with his [TS]

◼   ► mind slug right that che guevara is [TS]

◼   ► using on the pilot to find out what the [TS]

◼   ► truth is [TS]

◼   ► yeah and it's like okay we've introduced [TS]

◼   ► this mind slug and it's to interrogate [TS]

◼   ► the pilot the pilot that Saul Guerrero [TS]

◼   ► doesn't trust for no apparent reason [TS]

◼   ► other than he's crazy and and it's like [TS]

◼   ► oh we're going to use this mind slug but [TS]

◼   ► it just you might lose your mind [TS]

◼   ► afterward and it's like oh it doesn't [TS]

◼   ► make him lose his mind he's like a [TS]

◼   ► little sleepy for an hour and we just go [TS]

◼   ► right on and he's like a totally normal [TS]

◼   ► guy for the rest of the movie and that's [TS]

◼   ► another thing that feels like why is [TS]

◼   ► this here that this scene you could [TS]

◼   ► literally cut and it would not affect [TS]

◼   ► anything that the mind slug thing never [TS]

◼   ► comes back up [TS]

◼   ► he's never actually lost his mind you [TS]

◼   ► don't do anything interesting with it [TS]

◼   ► like I kept thinking what i was [TS]

◼   ► expecting to happen is who maybe this [TS]

◼   ► pilot who has defected after this mind [TS]

◼   ► slug makes him lose his mind for gets [TS]

◼   ► that he's defected right in it and [TS]

◼   ► actually think that he's still part of [TS]

◼   ► the Empire and like has found himself in [TS]

◼   ► this crazy situation like that might be [TS]

◼   ► something interesting to do but nope [TS]

◼   ► it's like we've just introduced this [TS]

◼   ► mind slug and we're blowing right past [TS]

◼   ► it and it doesn't matter it doesn't [TS]

◼   ► affect the plot like we're just going to [TS]

◼   ► keep on going and there's just so many [TS]

◼   ► things like that it's like so much stuff [TS]

◼   ► it's not impossible in the mine slipcase [TS]

◼   ► there that something more did happen and [TS]

◼   ► got cut but they kind of films himself [TS]

◼   ► into a corner where they had to leave [TS]

◼   ► some of their instill that does [TS]

◼   ► occasionally happen in movies doesn't [TS]

◼   ► where they they take out a sequence [TS]

◼   ► but they're left with sort of baggage [TS]

◼   ► either side of a yeah I can't wriggle [TS]

◼   ► out of so i would i would love to know [TS]

◼   ► the behind-the-scenes thing but i have a [TS]

◼   ► feeling like the first cut of this movie [TS]

◼   ► was four hours long [TS]

◼   ► right like I know and I mean that quite [TS]

◼   ► literally and it's it's it's something [TS]

◼   ► that you actually like this you see in [TS]

◼   ► some of the behind-the-scenes stuff of [TS]

◼   ► the the first of the prequels where the [TS]

◼   ► the first cut was incredibly long and [TS]

◼   ► and they realize they had a hard time [TS]

◼   ► cutting it down to be movie like I just [TS]

◼   ► had the same kind of feeling with this [TS]

◼   ► like maybe there was a whole bunch of [TS]

◼   ► mind slug stuff and it's like I just [TS]

◼   ► just get rid of it like everything [TS]

◼   ► mostly because we have to we have to [TS]

◼   ► jettison so much stuff to get the sound [TS]

◼   ► to our running time like we filmed [TS]

◼   ► ourselves into a corner but so that mind [TS]

◼   ► slug is to me just another example of [TS]

◼   ► like thing brought up immediately [TS]

◼   ► dispatched with has absolutely no [TS]

◼   ► consequence but on Jenna we have we [TS]

◼   ► bring up with is then perhaps well by [TS]

◼   ► far and away my least favorite person in [TS]

◼   ► the whole film which is our blinds ninja [TS]

◼   ► dude yeah i love this character and this [TS]

◼   ► actor I could not believe how bad his [TS]

◼   ► line readings were like I could not [TS]

◼   ► believe how ridiculous his character was [TS]

◼   ► and it's like blind pointless ninja you [TS]

◼   ► don't need to be in this movie I cannot [TS]

◼   ► believe that you're here I cannot [TS]

◼   ► believe how you're delivering your lines [TS]

◼   ► you just you just awful I thought he was [TS]

◼   ► so bad so terrible [TS]

◼   ► hey smacks of probably being someone [TS]

◼   ► who's really famous in other markets and [TS]

◼   ► they and having him in the film was a [TS]

◼   ► really smart technical move from just [TS]

◼   ► finding out who he is [TS]

◼   ► yeah that might that might be now he's a [TS]

◼   ► Chinese actor martial artist film [TS]

◼   ► director producer of this was this was [TS]

◼   ► my guess was he has to be a real martial [TS]

◼   ► artist because his fighting scenes look [TS]

◼   ► like him [TS]

◼   ► I'm or haste or he's to help them break [TS]

◼   ► the chinese market [TS]

◼   ► yeah yeah that that's also a possibility [TS]

◼   ► but it i was paying attention during his [TS]

◼   ► stunt scenes like that really looks like [TS]

◼   ► it's you I think you're really doing [TS]

◼   ► this and this is why you're here [TS]

◼   ► yeah but-but-but I like a wrote on it [TS]

◼   ► but his like his introductory like when [TS]

◼   ► he walks across that the battlefield is [TS]

◼   ► like I am with the force and the force [TS]

◼   ► is with me and I fear nothing because [TS]

◼   ► the force wheels at times like that is [TS]

◼   ► the worst line delivery I've ever heard [TS]

◼   ► from anyone [TS]

◼   ► it's like awful and I thought there were [TS]

◼   ► a lot of really bad line deliveries in [TS]

◼   ► the force awakens it's like everything [TS]

◼   ► this guy said every time it's just I [TS]

◼   ► felt like he was sitting in [TS]

◼   ► lay a table reading for the movie it was [TS]

◼   ► just awful i can't believe you're [TS]

◼   ► keeping these line readings in and I [TS]

◼   ► think the whole purpose of his character [TS]

◼   ► was pointless [TS]

◼   ► it's like he does nothing that they [TS]

◼   ► couldn't just have K to the droid do [TS]

◼   ► instead he did bring the force into the [TS]

◼   ► film otherwise there would have been no [TS]

◼   ► force at all with that yeah he is [TS]

◼   ► obviously supposed to be like this sort [TS]

◼   ► of Jedi character but i also think it [TS]

◼   ► totally doesn't pay off and and it also [TS]

◼   ► like causes this conflict like I kept [TS]

◼   ► being aware of like okay so let me get [TS]

◼   ► this straight [TS]

◼   ► there's like a class of priests who are [TS]

◼   ► defending the the resources that are [TS]

◼   ► used to make lightsabers for the jedis [TS]

◼   ► this is happening like three days before [TS]

◼   ► a new hope [TS]

◼   ► where Harrison Ford is talking about how [TS]

◼   ► like I've never heard of the Jedi have [TS]

◼   ► travel home with the universe and [TS]

◼   ► there's no such thing like but there's a [TS]

◼   ► big industrial base here related to Jedi [TS]

◼   ► industries like it's I feel like you [TS]

◼   ► should have just gotten him out of there [TS]

◼   ► and also his connection to the force had [TS]

◼   ► no payoff in amazingly when they had a [TS]

◼   ► scene where they could have had a [TS]

◼   ► perfect for Spain off with him on the [TS]

◼   ► beach trying to pull a switch it's like [TS]

◼   ► hey maybe the guy who's really into the [TS]

◼   ► force could use the Force to pull that [TS]

◼   ► switch [TS]

◼   ► I know you don't even have this payoff [TS]

◼   ► scene i did that's how he walked two and [TS]

◼   ► didn't get shot by the lies about [TS]

◼   ► because the forsook saved him from all [TS]

◼   ► the lights above okay okay okay listen [TS]

◼   ► okay we're jumping way to the end of the [TS]

◼   ► movie right but it's like I understand [TS]

◼   ► so he walks across this battlefield and [TS]

◼   ► it goes all the forces with me and I one [TS]

◼   ► with the forest and you're supposed to [TS]

◼   ► think like oh no the lasers hit him [TS]

◼   ► it's like okay I understand that's what [TS]

◼   ► you're trying to do but you undercut [TS]

◼   ► that immediately when after he does that [TS]

◼   ► his w pointless friend then runs out [TS]

◼   ► after him and sits up with him in the [TS]

◼   ► middle of this field of fire and also [TS]

◼   ► doesn't get hit by anybody yeah but [TS]

◼   ► that's what had been blown closer to him [TS]

◼   ► by that point I know it's literally [TS]

◼   ► sitting up he is his his muscle friend [TS]

◼   ► is a literal sitting duck right in the [TS]

◼   ► middle of a field of fire and it's like [TS]

◼   ► it's our is so infuriating so [TS]

◼   ► infuriating not cry i'm not i'm not [TS]

◼   ► saying their plot house and things that [TS]

◼   ► are not believable [TS]

◼   ► I'm just saying there was a force payoff [TS]

◼   ► he does use the Force to to do something [TS]

◼   ► important I think it was totally [TS]

◼   ► undercut [TS]

◼   ► think it was totally undercut [TS]

◼   ► immediately yeah we've also got a movie [TS]

◼   ► like he's on he's only for slight he's [TS]

◼   ► not a projector I say yeah but he was [TS]

◼   ► just also cases like your character is [TS]

◼   ► unnecessary and it is doubly highlighted [TS]

◼   ► by me that you have like an unnecessary [TS]

◼   ► squared friend who's also following you [TS]

◼   ► around i was like what are you guys [TS]

◼   ► doing here what are you doing here for [TS]

◼   ► the love of God great i'm putting my [TS]

◼   ► foot down and taking us away from jetta [TS]

◼   ► because this was some this was supposed [TS]

◼   ► to be a short podcast and I cannot for [TS]

◼   ► the life haven't even talked about the [TS]

◼   ► terrorist scene right we haven't talked [TS]

◼   ► about it out and let's leave Jenna and [TS]

◼   ► we might come back to it later because [TS]

◼   ► what i really want to know is what you [TS]

◼   ► thought of Darth Vader's Mordor Batcave [TS]

◼   ► ben mendelsohn though the white-robed [TS]

◼   ► daddy finds his way to Martha's bat cave [TS]

◼   ► on Mount Doom because he wants to whinge [TS]

◼   ► about his job promotion and stuff like [TS]

◼   ► that you know is so whiny [TS]

◼   ► but anyway what did you think of the [TS]

◼   ► fact that darth vader like lives there [TS]

◼   ► again from my viewer totally unnecessary [TS]

◼   ► scene [TS]

◼   ► oh yes it's like you want Darth Vader in [TS]

◼   ► this movie if if you if you have to have [TS]

◼   ► Darth Vader in the movie i can live with [TS]

◼   ► the final scene but but this seems [TS]

◼   ► totally pointless to me and it's okay so [TS]

◼   ► the guys coming to complain that old [TS]

◼   ► grandma target is taking credit for my [TS]

◼   ► death star right it's like okay and [TS]

◼   ► you're going to win to like Darth Vader [TS]

◼   ► about this like is this is the best plan [TS]

◼   ► of action right like Oh Darth Vader he's [TS]

◼   ► such a sympathetic shoulder to cry upon [TS]

◼   ► right now it's like I to Steve Jobs to [TS]

◼   ► complain that your chair squeaking at [TS]

◼   ► your desk Apple i'm really tired of [TS]

◼   ► working on this ipod right like well I'm [TS]

◼   ► really tired of having you work for me [TS]

◼   ► get out [TS]

◼   ► it's such a confused scene because it's [TS]

◼   ► also like Vader has summoned him is it [TS]

◼   ► the whole scene is confusing i think it [TS]

◼   ► just it totally doesn't work and i was [TS]

◼   ► so aware that's like okay well you're [TS]

◼   ► like here we go here's Darth Vader he's [TS]

◼   ► on screen and he just has no presence on [TS]

◼   ► screen at all [TS]

◼   ► he almost I want someone to make a gif [TS]

◼   ► of it when the blu-ray comes out but I [TS]

◼   ► was several where that he's almost doing [TS]

◼   ► like a little sassy walk when he comes [TS]

◼   ► out at first like he's swaying a lot [TS]

◼   ► yeah I you can see the lights on his [TS]

◼   ► chest like swaying back and forth it's [TS]

◼   ► like he's doing a little catwalk thing [TS]

◼   ► it's interesting it's very interesting [TS]

◼   ► that before I want to talk about his [TS]

◼   ► homies planet in a second but the fact [TS]

◼   ► you make that point is interesting [TS]

◼   ► because i have a really vivid memory [TS]

◼   ► when they rereleased the first three [TS]

◼   ► films you remember they sort of they [TS]

◼   ► kind of jazz them up and redux them and [TS]

◼   ► of course of course not even short was [TS]

◼   ► when they added all the crap effects [TS]

◼   ► maybe it was then know there was like a [TS]

◼   ► remastered version that came up before [TS]

◼   ► yeah those are and i remember a whole [TS]

◼   ► bunch of my friends and I went to see it [TS]

◼   ► and a friend of mine who was a bit older [TS]

◼   ► than us but a few years who I remember [TS]

◼   ► him saying after the film what it was [TS]

◼   ► he used to be so intimidated by Darth [TS]

◼   ► Vader when he was a kid who and now he [TS]