The Incomparable

211: These Are All Good Ideas


  the incomparable number 212 September [TS]

  welcome back everybody to the [TS]

  comfortable i'm your host Jason smell [TS]

  and we're joined here today for a little [TS]

  bit different kind of episode we're [TS]

  gonna be talking about [TS]

  it's not a draft i know that's shocking [TS]

  to many of you it's instead what we've [TS]

  been calling the TV reboot pitch session [TS]

  where we will [TS]

  my-my associated panelist will and I [TS]

  will be pitching TV shows that we think [TS]

  should come back and how they should [TS]

  come back so let me introduce my fine [TS]

  guests to you tonight who will be [TS]

  pitching to our imaginary TV network [TS]

  that has access to all old intellectual [TS]

  property [TS]

  David lower hi hello there are you [TS]

  prepared [TS]

  I i am prepared i have notes oh god okay [TS]

  voice is too jaan is out there high [TS]

  moisture is hi Jason are you prepared [TS]

  I hope for I hope you're ready for a lot [TS]

  of things involving mustaches [TS]

  I'm always ready for some things [TS]

  involving mustaches Indian eiko is also [TS]

  out there Andy are you prepared to [TS]

  reboot something I i'm prepared i will [TS]

  say that I'm probably not as prepared as [TS]

  what I now think the rest of you are but [TS]

  this is going to be a hollywood-style [TS]

  pitch where we have a long-standing [TS]

  relationship with my production company [TS]

  we're all casual right here and we can [TS]

  just sort of work things out [TS]

  also joining us is mr. Philip Michaels [TS]

  hello are you put on now yes i'm [TS]

  prepared i have i have as many as two [TS]

  browser tabs open that's research you [TS]

  putting David Lord shame they're all [TS]

  right well we should get started this is [TS]

  again it is not a draft i know and that [TS]

  is shocking and I'm expecting that the [TS]

  other panelists may want to jump in at [TS]

  some point and ask questions and that's [TS]

  fine and if they want to do their own [TS]

  alternate pitch go for it but we're [TS]

  going to let everybody to their initial [TS]

  pitch as if they were in the room with [TS]

  the fictional TV executives so who is [TS]

  nice and go first [TS]

  Jason I can i request that Phil get to [TS]

  go first because he he said before we [TS]

  started that he's prepared backups [TS]

  okay justjust I don't think any of us [TS]

  want to step on Phil's toes i pass [TS]

  courteously uh-oh let's go to David Lord [TS]

  okay well you know I was thinking about [TS]

  shows that I you know that i wrote a [TS]

  spec script for and things that like to [TS]

  see again but most of those i just want [TS]

  to bring back as is you know I wouldn't [TS]

  reboot them so much as just start them I [TS]

  thought about you know maybe an hour [TS]

  long musical about the ennui that sits [TS]

  in with a long-running Broadway show and [TS]

  call it after smash but no well there [TS]

  goes my idea thanks [TS]

  ya see and no mustaches yet but a couple [TS]

  years ago I I got to thinking about this [TS]

  this was a show that I had the lunchbox [TS]

  when I was in kindergarten because my [TS]

  grandparents thought I liked the show [TS]

  and I guess I watched it and I came back [TS]

  to it many years later I had the action [TS]

  figures i had the playset space 1999 and [TS]

  the thing is I mean a couple years ago I [TS]

  saw that someone was trying to get the [TS]

  rights to do it and call it space 2099 [TS]

  and it's like it doesn't sound right [TS]

  if you're gonna change the name just do [TS]

  something original by that point so then [TS]

  I thought well how would you do it [TS]

  without changing the name so i thought [TS]

  well alright what if we have like a you [TS]

  know do like Battlestar Galactica do a [TS]

  miniseries right if you just get to tell [TS]

  the one story and tell the one-story so [TS]

  it starts off well i guess i should give [TS]

  a little background for the show right [TS]

  it's set on the moon in the far future [TS]

  year of 1999 the base was run by [TS]

  Commander John Kane egg played by martin [TS]

  landau and dr. Helena Russell barber [TS]

  bein they were sort of a couple i don't [TS]

  think they ever explicitly made the [TS]

  characters a couple but it was kind of [TS]

  implied since they were married in real [TS]

  life and basically in the in the first [TS]

  episode there's a nuclear explosion that [TS]

  might be sabotage [TS]

  and the moon is blasted out of the [TS]

  Earth's orbit and basically becomes the [TS]

  starship enterprise and goes across the [TS]

  galaxy and finds new planets and it's [TS]

  very exciting [TS]

  that's good physics right that's all it [TS]

  fit yeah yeah and and everything else [TS]

  back on earth is going to be fine and [TS]

  you know they'll come back to earth [TS]

  someday and they'll find it just in you [TS]

  know so so yeah it's you know it's not [TS]

  exactly great TV so I thought all right [TS]

  well he keep the name and he get rid of [TS]

  the the silliness of ripping the earth [TS]

  out of its ripping the moon out of the [TS]

  Earth's orbit and turning it into a [TS]

  spaceship and I thought well alright you [TS]

  start where you're at this planet [TS]

  it's the year 1999 and they're they're [TS]

  building an ark ship that is of moon [TS]

  size and shape and it's just out past [TS]

  the moon's orbit and you find out that [TS]

  well this is a planet that's in trouble [TS]

  right the the environment is collapsing [TS]

  the upper classes are financing and [TS]

  funding this and building this and [TS]

  they're planning to escape kind of Atlas [TS]

  Shrugged style and as this is going on [TS]

  as they're preparing it there's an act [TS]

  of sabotage and it blows that out of [TS]

  range at the same time it knocks the [TS]

  moon out of its orbit and causes a mass [TS]

  extinction event on this planet and we [TS]

  find out that it's not earth so as it as [TS]

  this sort of basically takes that setup [TS]

  and you know it still run by Commander [TS]

  John Koenig and it travels and travels [TS]

  and discovers a planet that looks very [TS]

  similar to their planet and its earth [TS]

  and the weird thing is on earth it's the [TS]

  year 2014 9 there's no space program [TS]

  there's no exploration there's no [TS]

  anything because they gave up and people [TS]

  that are missing from our heroes [TS]

  timeline our heroes existence you know [TS]

  commander john candy grins the station [TS]

  but his Helena wrestle died years before [TS]

  on earth there's dr. Helen [TS]

  wrestle but the cake the john candy she [TS]

  knew died years before so you have this [TS]

  sort of underlying mystery of why are [TS]

  their parallels why are their timelines [TS]

  out of sync [TS]

  you know it's 50 years off and so while [TS]

  they're sort of getting to know each [TS]

  other [TS]

  boom another sabotage their blown out of [TS]

  the orbit and it effects the moon around [TS]

  our earth and as part of the second half [TS]

  of the miniseries they have to figure [TS]

  out how to basically save the earth and [TS]

  themselves and from there it sort of [TS]

  goes forward as they you know they have [TS]

  a way of propelling this thing through [TS]

  space it's not the moon it's an actual [TS]

  shape it just happens to be shaped like [TS]

  the moon [TS]

  you know it's like it's like that but [TS]

  but you know you get to do all your [TS]

  daughter throw moon that's no moon [TS]

  you get to have all your star trek [TS]

  strange new world stuff you get to have [TS]

  the underlying mysteries of those [TS]

  disconnects and parallels and why did [TS]

  they happen and what's going on and you [TS]

  know maybe you get to the end of the [TS]

  first season they discover another earth [TS]

  now what's going on I don't know but it [TS]

  sort of seemed interesting to me to have [TS]

  that as your mystery and to sort of take [TS]

  the point of view of this other planet [TS]

  as you know that's where we start [TS]

  so you can sort of step back and look at [TS]

  humanity that way like Roddenberry like [TS]

  to do so in in a sense to our heroes the [TS]

  the earth manner are the aliens so there [TS]

  you go [TS]

  it's not an elevator pitch but it's at [TS]

  least not the 30 paragraphs i wrote out [TS]

  a couple years ago interesting now when [TS]

  you told me this pitch in san diego a [TS]

  while ago I i suggested my alternate [TS]

  version of space 1999 you mind if I [TS]

  throw that out there [TS]

  well i was going to say that was before [TS]

  I had found all the notes because it's [TS]

  I've had this for a couple years now so [TS]

  that's more worked up than I told you [TS]

  back then but i like your solution [TS]

  because it's more sciency her science [TS]

  fiction endorsement by the lady that's [TS]

  the technical to science and space [TS]

  1999 meets cosmos yes interesting with [TS]

  the animation interesting so my pitches [TS]

  that there's a actual astronomical [TS]

  phenomenon called the rogue planet where [TS]

  the planets that are not tied into solar [TS]

  systems and that they are uh you know [TS]

  this this rogue planet is is shooting [TS]

  along it and he comes through our solar [TS]

  system and rips the the moon out of its [TS]

  orbit which actually could happen and it [TS]

  lays waste to the earth [TS]

  so what happens is is the moon is taken [TS]

  away in the people on the moon base are [TS]

  taken away from the earth and I don't [TS]

  know whether they're going to go into [TS]

  outer space like deep space or whether [TS]

  they're gonna be in a weird orbit around [TS]

  our Sun in the end but there's [TS]

  opportunity for them to discover what [TS]

  else is on the moon discover what [TS]

  mysteries are down on the rogue planet [TS]

  and then also potentially have survivors [TS]

  from Earth who have fled who are trying [TS]

  to chase after the moon because the [TS]

  earth has been laid waste and they know [TS]

  that there's a survivable base on the [TS]

  moon and there's a bunch of kind of [TS]

  stuff that could go on so that was mine [TS]

  then you probably called space 2099 [TS]

  because really it's 1999 already [TS]

  happened [TS]

  yeah means my one challenge was trying [TS]

  to keep the name and how do you explain [TS]

  that right could pull a galactic in 1980 [TS]

  and have people travel back in time from [TS]

  the future into the present world of [TS]

  1999 well you know can't record isn't [TS]

  doing anything right now [TS]

  sure [TS]

  it's sort of a farscape cross over there [TS]

  still be like a dark side of the moon [TS]

  that we never get to see and you're sort [TS]

  of holding that off for like your end of [TS]

  season three like big reveal [TS]

  yeah that would work like it turns out [TS]

  there were these there's like a huge [TS]

  like mall of america like covering the [TS]

  entire thing and like people out there [TS]

  taco bell's McDonald's or like pants [TS]

  stores everywhere [TS]

  why did we never bother to check okay [TS]

  yeah you know I don't have this mapped [TS]

  out like lost that would also hook into [TS]

  the plot point of like the people from [TS]

  Earth wanted to find it because they're [TS]

  probably gonna pass that at some point [TS]

  and there may be there might be an [TS]

  Orange Julius over there [TS]

  ok then have a gap is just an old navy [TS]

  store but even like twenty dollar really [TS]

  cheap as crap jeans you know [TS]

  beggars can't be choosers coming in some [TS]

  network higher indian tacos and [TS]

  executive because i like your notes [TS]

  thank you thank you I i I'm as a [TS]

  creative professional I pride myself on [TS]

  being that idiot executive will be [TS]

  saying okay I mean pixar you're great [TS]

  I just need you to walk me through the [TS]

  idea that their cars on the planet out [TS]

  what did there used to be humans are you [TS]

  going to ask about this question or not [TS]

  or maybe I'm just not getting so fossil [TS]

  fuels exist so this is a world in which [TS]

  dinosaurs existed and cars have evolved [TS]

  to be the dominant is getting hung up on [TS]

  the fact that these people have seats [TS]

  and yeah well you know if their seats [TS]

  inside these living beings what's [TS]

  supposed to sit on those seats what's [TS]

  the purpose of the seats great pitch [TS]

  only backburner before we go on with [TS]

  everything if there are talking cars in [TS]

  David's match tonight I'm all for it [TS]

  so the thing I like about Andy's notes [TS]

  as think of all the opportunities for [TS]

  product placement there go the distance [TS]

  just like look what battle on five [TS]

  different zima the ones you're fine i [TS]

  didn't just have to take your star away [TS]

  what I have to pick apart Nandi [TS]

  suggestion areas that he suggested that [TS]

  we that we would find that out in season [TS]

  3 and we know for a fact that no TV show [TS]

  would be able to resist that for like [TS]

  halfway through season one probably [TS]

  right that we have you want to be a [TS]

  season finale [TS]

  yeah cuz cuz we have mid season finales [TS]

  now why I don't know how about now [TS]

  no I mean I'm just going to mail this [TS]

  there are no bad suggestions were all [TS]

  here in a better pitch meeting all right [TS]

  what if we were make to make it like the [TS]

  19th is the future version of them [TS]

  that life blimp and it's like coca-cola [TS]

  has like has this big floating space [TS]

  platform that keeps the logo up there [TS]

  and then it that's what gets blasted [TS]

  into into into deep space [TS]

  ok and they still have a study that's [TS]

  also with the lab where they keep [TS]

  developing their new coca-cola products [TS]

  so when it's like berry burst mellow [TS]

  yellow [TS]

  they could still be drinking that [TS]

  because that's where that product was [TS]

  developed and then one of the first [TS]

  things they do to test the time portal [TS]

  to see that just like in Voyager season [TS]

  five where they've freakishly figure out [TS]

  a way to send messages back to like the [TS]

  the previous time they could you send [TS]

  back the formula for berry burst mellow [TS]

  yellow and then boom it's on store [TS]

  shelves that you just synergy wager [TS]

  well you know share a space platform [TS]

  with a friend so I I think so anyway i [TS]

  like i like your idea i like the kind of [TS]

  bizarre like almost like they're [TS]

  traveling parallel worlds kind of thing [TS]

  it's a spider's kind of thing we're [TS]

  going to put that on the whiteboard we [TS]

  will come back to later [TS]

  yeah but I like red planet it's a little [TS]

  like a jack mcdevitt novel or something [TS]

  you got the mystery of this alien planet [TS]

  that was hurled through space from [TS]

  somewhere else what might what secrets [TS]

  might have perhaps there's more to [TS]

  what's down on that planet than we even [TS]

  know strange things happen and then [TS]

  there's the refugees from Earth and in [TS]

  fact may not in fact like a I I was [TS]

  measuring like a win worlds collide [TS]

  thing where they're coming off the [TS]

  surface of the planet before the end [TS]

  because they think they're going to be [TS]

  destroyed but who's to say if it's in a [TS]

  we know weird orbit but they're still [TS]

  orbiting the Sun who's to say that we [TS]

  don't make contact and it turns out that [TS]

  the what happened on earth is actually [TS]

  not what they expected so I think you [TS]

  feel greater lots of wacky twist that [TS]

  you could do in the moon base without it [TS]

  completely violating the laws of physics [TS]

  like the original one like i said in san [TS]

  diego [TS]

  I'd almost do your version as its own [TS]

  show because that's a really good idea [TS]

  or space [TS]

  yeah 2015 I'm smelling third season [TS]

  spin-off I don't know about the rest of [TS]

  you guys but it sounds like gold to me [TS]

  while you went to the UN to the guy the [TS]

  the pitch guy voice the old formula [TS]

  we're going to do this hold out episode [TS]

  like I'm not David what I like about [TS]

  your idea is that it's fresh i mean it's [TS]

  a reboot of an old show and if we're not [TS]

  fresh but yet it feels fresh even though [TS]

  we're not [TS]

  yeah Jason I see what you're saying i'm [TS]

  going to restate exactly what you said [TS]

  could sound like like I said sometimes I [TS]

  was very good to me i think that's a [TS]

  good idea is better in an invoice on a [TS]

  podcast [TS]

  well we we've had our meeting studio [TS]

  executive Peter Parker's colombo I i'm [TS]

  showering body but I just broadcasting [TS]

  network is our mixture and I cool let me [TS]

  just make sure you do we have to do we [TS]

  have hair about space 1999 before we [TS]

  move on I could pitch it again in [TS]

  bullwinkles voice I think it goes [TS]

  something like this [TS]

  I think it's so adorable the way Jason [TS]

  keeps trying to steer this back on topic [TS]

  let's let solid form of it [TS]

  look at you and so it's blown out of the [TS]

  Earth's orbit it'll be amazing it's like [TS]

  he wants this to be a comfortable [TS]

  podcast not an incomparable podcast so [TS]

  thank you David that's your that's your [TS]

  that's your pitch I appreciate it [TS]

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  move on to the next pitch let's go to [TS]

  assess so I thank you so much free time [TS]

  everybody I've got a good pitch for you [TS]

  I gotta get a few other spins on it too [TS]

  because I think there's a lot of [TS]

  different ways we can go this way I i [TS]

  think the only way forward is magnum p.i [TS]

  and i'll give you a reason why CBS [TS]

  already has hawaii 50 on the year and [TS]

  magnum p.i came in as Hawaii five-o [TS]

  needed to go gently into that good night [TS]

  and and I think a lot of people would [TS]

  agree that the current version of Hawaii [TS]

  five-o needs to need to do the same [TS]

  thing so so there's a version of this [TS]

  that we could do with Tom Selleck and in [TS]

  the way that they restarted maverick [TS]

  with a show called Bret maverick [TS]

  starring James Garner 20 years later I [TS]

  feel like we could do effectively [TS]

  thomasmagnum go ahead and call it magnum [TS]

  p.i all over again and and and have him [TS]

  just a just pick up the reins and keep [TS]

  going we could do that we could do that [TS]

  alternately [TS]

  we could friends right there with the [TS]

  way that lets just do that [TS]

  yeah just go ahead and I want let's [TS]

  listen to your idea to so so so there's [TS]

  you know the kids these days that they [TS]

  like they like their moustaches yeah I [TS]

  like a mustache [TS]

  I've got a mustache it's something [TS]

  treats me well we could we could you [TS]

  think it up we could we could go to you [TS]

  we could go magnum p.i junior you know [TS]

  there's a cartoon called James Bond [TS]

  junior so why not magnum p.i jr. we can [TS]

  basically he'll be wearing the mustache [TS]

  ironically he's wearing a mustache [TS]

  ironically to piss off his dad who takes [TS]

  on the Higgins role so it's his dad's [TS]

  mention that his dad is like what you [TS]

  know what you kids with these raves and [TS]

  these laser lights what did Thomas [TS]

  Magnum get a mansion [TS]

  I roadmaster grass just left it left [TS]

  Terra yeah why wouldn't he don't know [TS]

  why wouldn't you get when you let the [TS]

  guy drive all of your fancy cars I mean [TS]

  that there must have been some sort of a [TS]

  significant relationship you know I [TS]

  where were these guys are really just [TS]

  got along [TS]

  I mean age it just makes sense because [TS]

  we're talking about TV [TS]

  I mean right so Thomas Magnum is now the [TS]

  Owens and is also the the operator of [TS]

  this mansion on on Oahu ok he's the one [TS]

  saying oh my god and he's gone he's [TS]

  eating dogs of course he's got dogs and [TS]

  instead of Zeus and Apollo there [TS]

  Hera and Aphrodite why not ok ok so so [TS]

  we've got magnum p.i jr. and we [TS]

  effectively do magnum p.i but with a kid [TS]

  ok so maybe maybe maybe let's say you [TS]

  want another option [TS]

  I've got another option for you Jim [TS]

  Henson's magnum babies sold that was my [TS]

  fourth that was my fourth page but but [TS]

  but no let me get there let me get there [TS]

  let me let me get there let me get there [TS]

  when we get there let me go please don't [TS]

  tell the worst picture for us gents week [TS]

  James realize your hobbies gentlemen [TS]

  let's think it's think the city is that [TS]

  like a character we go hip we want to go [TS]

  young we want to do magnum p.i meet [TS]

  Veronica Mars lady magnum junior so [TS]

  madam has a daughter instead of a male [TS]

  son we reenact the opening set of setup [TS]

  of the pilot where it's magnum a couple [TS]

  of attractive girls so we're really just [TS]

  faking people out there making him think [TS]

  it's it's it's magnum junior with his [TS]

  hipster mustache and and his his douchey [TS]

  ways but in fact one of the girls is the [TS]

  one that threw the party and they're in [TS]

  trouble with dad who owns the mansion [TS]

  just like just like in the just previous [TS]

  version now different than that of [TS]

  course is that is the magnum jr. is a [TS]

  girl on top of that now let's see let's [TS]

  see how many magazines we got tcf [TS]

  daughter [TS]

  mhm TC had a daughter who went missing [TS]

  and her name was melody and guess who [TS]

  mag lady magnum juniors best friend is [TS]

  Lady magnum junior you get together we [TS]

  got a lot of titles in there can say [TS]

  that you hear what was going I might [TS]

  have we might have some intellectual [TS]

  property problems because i believe [TS]

  there is a feminine deodorant called [TS]

  lady Beckham jr. it was the men's [TS]

  deodorant and then they came up with the [TS]

  lady magnum and then they want it was [TS]

  too dark for Lady Anne are so we can get [TS]

  being a clearance I'm just saying that [TS]

  don't be wedded to ladyman interesting [TS]

  product placement smells like Tom [TS]

  Selleck but i like it to you don't like [TS]

  smelling like Tom Selleck my god what's [TS]

  wrong with strong enough for Rick ragan [TS]

  respect almost everything about somebody [TS]

  alright so once you've got you've got a [TS]

  you've got Thomas magnums daughter and [TS]

  TCS daughter is Rick involved somehow or [TS]

  offspring of Rick or ice pick [TS]

  I think Rick's trying to date them I [TS]

  think it would be amazing to bring Larry [TS]

  Manetti back as Rick I think that he's [TS]

  really busy these days he's he's he's a [TS]

  he actually just joined the the hawaii [TS]

  five-o reboot last year [TS]

  mhm so he basically is playing roughly [TS]

  the same kind of his characters in [TS]

  Hawaii and available he's he's in hawaii [TS]

  and available [TS]

  alright we chance to tell to in Hawaii [TS]

  and available indicate as sort of like [TS]

  Oh could you just move to got a bad [TS]

  relationship she's moved away to get a [TS]

  fresh start [TS]

  she doesn't have a place to live so she [TS]

  lives and she rented a room in a mansion [TS]

  run by a guy wearing a detroit tigers [TS]

  baseball cap but we never named him we [TS]

  only see him from behind right well yeah [TS]

  then he has to wear the baseball cap [TS]

  turned around so we can see the do is [TS]

  just a blue baseball cap we want to pay [TS]

  major league baseball for the licensing [TS]

  fee so it's just [TS]

  bingo baseball cap think i am I I don't [TS]

  want to diminish although the fine work [TS]

  and effort you put into this but I was [TS]

  waiting for this this is going to make [TS]

  the whole evening for it [TS]

  I i feel that i feel that you're really [TS]

  giving short shrift to the Higgins [TS]

  character i think that Higgins character [TS]

  was so essential to the the the series [TS]

  and to make it highly [TS]

  yeah old man magnum I don't think really [TS]

  cuts it is Higgins that but i agree [TS]

  about the thing about Higgins was the [TS]

  tea you know had his own adventures and [TS]

  the the two directions i would take it [TS]

  in one would be the Higgins chronicles [TS]

  where it's all of all of these [TS]

  adventures that Higgins is always [TS]

  recounting only there only there they're [TS]

  set to film and its star John Hodgman it [TS]

  could try that would be I i think that [TS]

  is good really SR John high-fat when I [TS]

  say that I think he is the theological [TS]

  error to John Hillerman I think he could [TS]

  play all of the different uh [TS]

  half-brothers and have brothers of the [TS]

  Higgins guyana with aplomb [TS]

  no I like the show i'm not going to even [TS]

  bring up the other one which i think [TS]

  would be old man magnum which is magnum [TS]

  uh leaves the islands after the the [TS]

  unsatisfying a season of magnum p.i go [TS]

  to Kansas City yeah is what you're [TS]

  saying [TS]

  yeah it goes back to the mainland and [TS]

  has adventures and I i was always struck [TS]

  by a the young indiana jones chronicles [TS]

  where they had the one book and episode [TS]

  where was Harrison Ford and he was [TS]

  wearing an eyepatch and how did Harrison [TS]

  Ford lose the I neighbor [TS]

  yeah that's all they left the fit friend [TS]

  actually on all the old thomasmagnum and [TS]

  uh adventures [TS]

  yeah old thomasmagnum wandering around [TS]

  maybe maybe goes back to Virginia for a [TS]

  while and finds that you can't go home [TS]

  again maybe he tries to make a go of it [TS]

  in Detroit catch tigers game that he was [TS]

  so cruelly denied in season 4 of magnum [TS]

  p.i maybe he travels from city to city [TS]

  like the fugitive for reasons that we [TS]

  don't quite understand but I daughter [TS]

  cycle like reading [TS]

  yes exactly I got one alright how about [TS]

  old man magnum he's still at the estate [TS]

  he's pretty much living in the computer [TS]

  room now and he has a protégé a young [TS]

  not not a relative Overlord perhaps [TS]

  award on and he's controlled by this [TS]

  computerized Hawaiian shirt and he [TS]

  guides the young Ward through all these [TS]

  adventures magnum beyond you know tom [TS]

  selleck's only 69 he could he you know [TS]

  he could do he could make some [TS]

  appearances I'm just saying that blue [TS]

  blood show has to end soon because a [TS]

  Wahlberg brothers luck can only last so [TS]

  long i have to admit the the Higgins [TS]

  chronicles intrigues me and hit i didn't [TS]

  i'm a variety and in the in the inspired [TS]

  John Hodgman casting I wonder if John [TS]

  Hodgman would be up for an eight year [TS]

  long Hawaiian vacation [TS]

  well I his chronicler yeah they will [TS]

  happen all over the place yes he would [TS]

  be a world traveler like the the [TS]

  reclusive billionaire that he is exactly [TS]

  yeah this is the these are all these are [TS]

  all good possibilities [TS]

  I mean we basically have a network full [TS]

  of magnums shows now which only makes me [TS]

  happy [TS]

  you know I would dive that i would i [TS]

  would throw the remote control out the [TS]

  window there are mad I just want to say [TS]

  that i am actually currently missing the [TS]

  deja who episode just to record with [TS]

  your job because I've seen it before and [TS]

  I remember if i keep seeing it again [TS]

  sure sure alright met any other any [TS]

  final thomasmagnum comments before we [TS]

  move on I mean we could we could ruin [TS]

  the Higgins Chronicles by then doing a [TS]

  spin-off i call as they're saying in the [TS]

  chatroom of the sons of higgins where [TS]

  where you would expect magnet to have [TS]

  loads of illegitimate children but but [TS]

  Higgins own o'higgins got no interest no [TS]

  no it's all the half brothers because [TS]

  how many Higgins have brothers are there [TS]

  there are at least three and Randy dead [TS]

  three or four [TS]

  yeah I I think you can also spin off one [TS]

  of the characters on magnum p.i who was [TS]

  really crying out for a [TS]

  their own show and that's Agatha Chumlee [TS]

  could could get a nice little series [TS]

  where it's sort of her adventures on the [TS]

  island murder she pondered he has a life [TS]

  too you are missing one thing that he [TS]

  Higgins had all these half-brothers [TS]

  right but they all suspicious looked [TS]

  exactly like him so we do like sort of a [TS]

  westworld twist where they're all every [TS]

  Higgins you see is actually an android [TS]

  sent back from the future and that's the [TS]

  best the mission of magnum who had [TS]

  failed in his mission because now he's [TS]

  too old now he has to basically have [TS]

  like a Batman core of of magnums to [TS]

  basically to handle the the Higgins [TS]

  incursion so it's sort of like a [TS]

  terminator meets magnum p.i Terminator [TS]

  meets magnum p.i with a nicely groomed [TS]

  mustache and then of them calling about [TS]

  up the edges I want to be just basic [TS]

  hard-working Marlboro Man style mustache [TS]

  he isn't his knee is nothing but [TS]

  business is dead [TS]

  these are all good ideas now you know [TS]

  when you said earlier that there there [TS]

  are no bad ideas i really believe that [TS]

  extends the magnum p.i know it is the [TS]

  Rosetta Stone of TV drama [TS]

  yeah yep yep first show everyone [TS]

  respects script for i would like to read [TS]

  that spec script i will get home alright [TS]

  perhaps even acted out no do all the [TS]

  party you know is there a part for me [TS]

  and that David uh oh of course [TS]

  okay good you know heavens and I approve [TS]

  of your script [TS]

  no all right let's let us uh that was [TS]

  all under the byline of Moises xian [TS]

  little just coming file and Moyes is [TS]

  Andy do you have a reboot pitch for us [TS]

  yes I do and I'll oh I'm glad because [TS]

  otherwise why are you here [TS]

  really excellent i'm here because it's [TS]

  nice to hear human voices [TS]

  okay fair not unless you also got a [TS]

  pitch that's nice well I also have to [TS]

  thank like this group because I thought [TS]

  that's what this was a rock-solid pitch [TS]

  before but there was one four-syllable [TS]

  word to add to add to the end of the [TS]

  this title that makes it about thirty [TS]

  percent more awesome [TS]

  ok [TS]

  Rockford Files 1999 ok rock first of all [TS]

  located the awesomeness of the Rockford [TS]

  Files is that though the basic concedes [TS]

  that you have this incredibly likeable [TS]

  but kind of down-on-his-luck private [TS]

  detective who he's an ex-con but he [TS]

  wasn't one of these like serious ex-cons [TS]

  just like okay I made some mistakes now [TS]

  I really just don't want anybody to pay [TS]

  any attention to me so he's always [TS]

  taking these like sort of low-level [TS]

  low-level things and not trying to get [TS]

  his you get his nose out of joint he [TS]

  wants to basically go go straight and [TS]

  also not be bothered and that's the tone [TS]

  of every single episode of the Rockford [TS]

  Files my idea here is that we I'm seeing [TS]

  this as one of these like cable sort of [TS]

  series where there's like six episodes [TS]

  per season because what I really want to [TS]

  do is I want to populate this show with [TS]

  nothing but great character actors [TS]

  people who are necessary were usually in [TS]

  demand but if you say that [TS]

  look we're doing another 6 episode arc [TS]

  you saw how many emmy nominations we got [TS]

  last season it's only going to take [TS]

  about five days shooting days out of [TS]

  your time it's gonna be a blast can come [TS]

  on come on board also the other twist [TS]

  about this not necessarily twist but [TS]

  there's not going to be any like [TS]

  season-long arcs you will never street [TS]

  the rockford will not spend six episodes [TS]

  trying to get to the hatch of the bottom [TS]

  of the ladder and then open the hatch [TS]

  and find out oh my god it's a no clocks [TS]

  door don't see you next year every [TS]

  single episode is a self-contained [TS]

  90-minute show of awesomeness now I've [TS]

  got I've got some got some casting ideas [TS]

  here now I want Matt Damon as rockford [TS]

  because you have to get that guy perfect [TS]

  james garner the idea was that you're [TS]

  familiar with them you could get a part [TS]

  you get a part of his career he's still [TS]

  hot but willing to sort of trade you [TS]

  know eight months in Budapest shooting [TS]

  what movie were just doing nothing but [TS]

  waiting where what if we just live in a [TS]

  comfortable house and you commute about [TS]

  six months to get this done [TS]

  he's got these are you can't believe [TS]

  he's had a rough for you refuse you [TS]

  can't believe he can he can beat people [TS]

  up but also its he has a likable quality [TS]

  and also I don't think he's at a low in [TS]

  his career but i think that he's at a [TS]

  point where if you tell them what if we [TS]

  book you for five months out of the year [TS]

  to do this TV show I think he's got [TS]

  three four kids now I think that he'd be [TS]

  excited [TS]

  animal to it now there's angel who is [TS]

  the his best friends are confident and [TS]

  sort of assistant in being a private [TS]

  detective I see jack black in this role [TS]

  he is the you got a parent together you [TS]

  need a funny guy to be the the second [TS]

  guys some guys punching someone out some [TS]

  guys being held hostage and saying witty [TS]

  things about drawing inside and groaning [TS]

  and beer second because i assume that [TS]

  would be your character that would be [TS]

  right for a gender reversal [TS]

  well I have well I haven't general [TS]

  rehearsal coming home always all I yeah [TS]

  he also he also has like his the the cop [TS]

  that kind of put them away but now it's [TS]

  like still active [TS]

  first of all this is all happening so la [TS]

  la is another character and rockford [TS]

  files you need another signature cities [TS]

  of the character for Matt Damon of [TS]

  course has to be Boston so for his four [TS]

  days before Jim Rockford unofficial [TS]

  liaison to the Boston Police we have Amy [TS]

  Adams who has had a lot of promotions [TS]

  since he essentially first put rockford [TS]

  in jail now she's sort of a Deputy [TS]

  Commissioner sort of person where she's [TS]

  got access to intelligence and access to [TS]

  lots of information but she's not so [TS]

  high up that you can occasionally be [TS]

  seen hanging out with with Jim Rockford [TS]

  I am scribbling so many angry notes [TS]

  right now okay that's not contain you [TS]

  mind if we do that's fine just keep [TS]

  going you know that somebody had to be [TS]

  the worst to one who let out the rest of [TS]

  his life so yeah I'm the guy who turned [TS]

  down the Beatles that's my legacy that [TS]

  we need he was part of the story right [TS]

  now but today we're talking but we're [TS]

  talking about like I'll just go through [TS]

  i'll just go through some some other [TS]

  casting ideas John Hodgman as sort of [TS]

  his liaison to the mayor's office I sort [TS]

  of see him as the nerdy guy who has [TS]

  access to the IBM PC 80 the 386 packard [TS]

  bell computer that controls all the [TS]

  information inside the mayor's office to [TS]

  this is this is why 1999 is a great [TS]

  place to go because not everybody has an [TS]

  iphone in their pocket there you need to [TS]

  have act not everybody knows how to use [TS]

  technology but it's there so we can use [TS]

  that for the shortcut to get the [TS]

  information but this doesn't mean that [TS]

  rockford doesn't have to still busting [TS]

  shoe-leather kevin Pollak as pops as [TS]

  Rockford's dad [TS]

  Anjelica Huston is his pops is a wife [TS]

  and and Rockford's mom but they're [TS]

  divorced but they still like our buddy [TS]

  buddy together [TS]

  I want to put honeysuckle weeks in here [TS]

  somewhere after after seeing everything [TS]

  foyle's war we need castor something I [TS]

  see here sort of as a sort of a son who [TS]

  owns or is responsible for company that [TS]

  has a fleet of trucks and go to the city [TS]

  of Boston I'm thinking either MBTA [TS]

  official or taxi dispatcher sanitation [TS]

  or liquor distributor so she's the [TS]

  person who can not only have that sort [TS]

  of street-level experience but also tell [TS]

  Jim you dr. Fineman well you know I had [TS]

  one by one of my trucks was like late [TS]

  for delivered because because church [TS]

  street was blocked for like 45 minutes [TS]

  because of it the one of his one of his [TS]

  cars and that's that but that's the the [TS]

  third act reveal that gets you on the [TS]

  other place [TS]

  robbie coltrane as in thats the local [TS]

  minor crime lord who is is in and out of [TS]

  almost every story he's not controlling [TS]

  everything but he sort of he doesn't [TS]

  have people killed he just simply has he [TS]

  has the deliveries diverter he's like og [TS]

  hijacking a shipment from from logan [TS]

  diverting into it other places i also [TS]

  want to get william h macy in there [TS]

  somewhere maybe as the mayor who makes [TS]

  occasional guest appearances that they [TS]

  will be talking about him but we never [TS]

  see them until there's a really good [TS]

  reason to sing but when we when we need [TS]

  the mayor of Boston will get me really [TS]

  makes me see [TS]

  but that's it 1999 lack of technology [TS]

  but some technology front loaded with [TS]

  lots of really great character actors [TS]

  and no season arcs you can miss the [TS]

  Deaconess for shows in a row and time to [TS]

  an end for the fifth and that will look [TS]

  you to get you to binge-watch the first [TS]

  for every single one of them is going to [TS]

  be a beautiful little inexpensive many [TS]

  movie set in the city of Boston about [TS]

  this very very likeable guy that we've [TS]

  all seen in a hundred different pictures [TS]

  i have I brought an empty pillowcase for [TS]

  the money [TS]

  yeah i will pass before you may each put [TS]

  about a quarter million dollars inside [TS]

  it all right [TS]

  interesting interesting Phil DF thoughts [TS]

  I I think you might have some notes I [TS]

  have some thoughts [TS]

  hey you know when I said that I had [TS]

  multiple pitches prepared one of them [TS]

  was for the Rockford Files I was [TS]

  expected lower to pocket haha [TS]

  but I never knew until this day that was [TS]

  not come along haha I i will say that i [TS]

  was lucky enough [TS]

  well lucky might not be the word to read [TS]

  the script for the attempt they made at [TS]

  rebooting it a couple years ago and all [TS]

  I will say is thank God that did not go [TS]

  exactly because now it's in play for my [TS]

  pitch to thank you very much for your [TS]

  support [TS]

  see anything with by sending in 1999 we [TS]

  can keep the answering machine opening [TS]

  and it'll be sort of a signature thing [TS]

  for rocker that even in 1999 it's sort [TS]

  of weird that you're still using a [TS]

  cassette answering system is now in in [TS]

  in my version it would be AT&T iphone [TS]

  voicemail accepted hardly ever works [TS]

  eight years in advance [TS]

  yeah well I wouldn't no I wouldn't set [TS]

  in 1999 here's the problem with your [TS]

  pitch [TS]

  Andy decides it's too perfect it'll [TS]

  raise the bar for everybody yes if it [TS]

  will make all other TV shows feel bad [TS]

  and what if we give Howie Mandel role as [TS]

  the medical examiner because that would [TS]

  like a st. elsewhere reference the kids [TS]

  will or not the four-year-old and fifty [TS]

  year old kids will love that he has the [TS]

  kids and guys are very many loads you [TS]

  can lower the bar of anything he's in [TS]

  believe me so my piece is probable [TS]

  problems that's all I'm saying [TS]

  besides the fact that it's set in Boston [TS]

  which i I really don't think is in [TS]

  movies and TV shows enough at this point [TS]

  in our history [TS]

  it's really weird looking like symptom [TS]

  yeah we could i I was thinking about [TS]

  what would update rockford for the [TS]

  modern era and Jason hit upon it earlier [TS]

  I i would i would make rock I its Jane [TS]

  rockford when one of us is colombo was [TS]

  such a hit [TS]

  well no here's why I think that uh [TS]

  rockford files would work with a female [TS]

  uh lead is because so many of your [TS]

  female crime-fighters female Crime [TS]

  Solvers it's always i'm going to its the [TS]

  avenging angel its Mariska Haggerty on [TS]

  crime on l lon order SUV or where yet or [TS]

  or the lady with the bad hair on the [TS]

  show where she saw the cold cases [TS]

  what was it called bad hair I don't [TS]

  remember but you really don't have the [TS]

  gym rock [TS]

  preferred style female character where [TS]

  it's sort of someone who's down on their [TS]

  heels kinda you know is okay with where [TS]

  they are in the world and I i think that [TS]

  would be a more interesting [TS]

  I I think making that character uh a [TS]

  woman allows for a some more interesting [TS]

  storylines and for some a unique [TS]

  storytelling and I was racking my brains [TS]

  with a blue 22 cast in that part and and [TS]

  two names came up [TS]

  you can pooh-pooh them if you like but [TS]

  doing right now [TS]

  yeah on the most recent season of [TS]

  justified i really liked which was not [TS]

  one of justified best seasons but i [TS]

  really liked Alicia wits work on it [TS]

  I i kinda thought she did a very good [TS]

  job of playing someone who was coming [TS]

  from a lower station in the world but [TS]

  had enough with 22 maybe uh sorry to uh [TS]

  uh move beyond that and I I could see [TS]

  her doing a rockford thing if you wanted [TS]

  to make the show a little bit more [TS]

  goofier uh Casey Wilson a most recently [TS]

  of happy endings I think would be a [TS]

  would be a fine casting decision i love [TS]

  i love the cheese casey wilson of of [TS]

  happy endings a show that is no longer [TS]

  on the year [TS]

  well thatthat's the the most recent [TS]

  reference i could think of I i like to [TS]

  exercise her name at the comic con casey [TS]

  wilson of marry me [TS]

  coming this fall well not not when she [TS]

  gets the Rockford Files guys right did [TS]

  it well as soon as you said gender [TS]

  reversal you know my first thought was [TS]

  that just like the film version of [TS]

  Maverick spoiler horn you you would have [TS]

  that moment of you know where you just [TS]

  you're just accepting this like a normal [TS]

  it's just a total reboot and at the very [TS]

  end someone's is why did you get into [TS]

  this and she's as well it did runs in [TS]

  the family and the camera pans over to [TS]

  the like family photos on her wall and [TS]

  there's Jim Gardner guess that's a copy [TS]

  of a 1974 issue of TV Guide yeah I love [TS]

  that you changed it legally changed my [TS]

  name to rockford because i love that [TS]

  show so much i'm not actually licensed [TS]

  detective there let me show you the [TS]

  tattoo on my bomb as the angel character [TS]

  i would i would see if john c reilly [TS]

  would do some television [TS]

  think he would be outstanding in there [TS]

  also also also a good choice we were we [TS]

  wanted we want a funny guy 211 some of [TS]

  the drama that might happen and people [TS]

  say I will say though that i do have to [TS]

  say no to the gender reversal because [TS]

  that's get this point this is kind of a [TS]

  hack move that's like oh and guess what [TS]

  Rockford's not a dude Wow blow your mind [TS]

  well I do think that you you need to add [TS]

  more women characters to the cast of a [TS]

  lot of these old shows so but I got [TS]

  don't necessarily like a tool to and the [TS]

  lien behind recast alone [TS]

  I got it I got it I think and and well [TS]

  captain EO Houston a regular recurring [TS]

  role as well David mentioned the captain [TS]

  EO is something we could be good you [TS]

  know they do have that hologram michael [TS]

  jackson now so we've got some not like a [TS]

  license that we can also license back to [TS]

  the lake to the bad era my son Michael [TS]

  attraction i would actually doing who I [TS]

  think is hungry for work is being [TS]

  sourced an exact I David mentioned the [TS]

  Dermot Mulroney failed pilot of the [TS]

  rocks reboot on NBC a few years ago I i [TS]

  will say I'll put in a vote if we're [TS]

  doing a little bit of fantasy casting [TS]

  here I feel like the guy who is best [TS]

  suited to play rebooted Jim Rockford is [TS]

  josh holloway formerly of lost and then [TS]

  a bunch of failed TV show since then I [TS]

  think he's the I think he's got the [TS]

  appropriate amount of kind of rumpled to [TS]

  do it while still being a leading a [TS]

  leading man to people like I'm sorry [TS]

  I've already cast him as a as gambit in [TS]

  my X file serious look can we get a [TS]

  medic and dancing kids on The X Files [TS]

  that sky is really wow yeah it's a dick [TS]

  Marcus boards ready to the x-files [TS]

  rabbit goes around looking for aliens [TS]

  because he's kinda kooky okay i don't i [TS]

  don't read your funny books and i know [TS]

  it started like whatever he was in the [TS]

  running for the rockford reboot and when [TS]

  they didn't cast him that was sort of [TS]

  like the first rumbling of oh this yes [TS]

  they don't know what they're doing [TS]

  because he was the right guy for that [TS]

  that pressure and I wouldn't fit it just [TS]

  thinking always that guy from Los but [TS]

  there was that season loss where he is [TS]

  sort of the sheriff of the dharma [TS]

  initiative in the seventies [TS]

  and uh oh my god and a he perfect [TS]

  perfect at that I could totally do so [TS]

  even even watching the show intelligence [TS]

  which was not going to be marshall awful [TS]

  masculine awful awful awful show not [TS]

  intelligence is not the word for that no [TS]

  but he was still entertaining either and [TS]

  I I hated every second of that show but [TS]

  he was 64 yeah get-get josh holloway [TS]

  good show any other uh rockford mm [TS]

  thoughts before we move on i'm open to [TS]

  having him live on a boat [TS]

  I think he's got absolutely no [TS]

  absolutely even if he's it in Boston I [TS]

  think he's got to be like in the harbor [TS]

  or something I think you've got to have [TS]

  that that feeling of being by the water [TS]

  I put him in Seattle myself because I [TS]

  think that has a more today kind of feel [TS]

  I don't see this going to want to pick [TS]

  up a woman when harry met sally by [TS]

  because that all that's beyond people's [TS]

  mind in seattle where the Harriman's how [TS]

  he said New York and there are no seams [TS]

  and I think I think you might be [TS]

  thinking didn't have the five of us got [TS]

  any mail which is another movie with meg [TS]

  Ryan and it was only your notes [TS]

  Sleepless in Seattle we're both wrong [TS]

  just to show you how nor effort [TS]

  identical very light palette is it was [TS]

  actually Sleepless in Seattle Nora [TS]

  Ephron was painting with like mac paint [TS]

  one point others just not either [TS]

  witnessing the dollars in your Frazier [TS]

  kelsey grammer could be on the show has [TS]

  the governor so we have sort of like we [TS]

  have we need a mayor menino sort of guy [TS]

  like as the as as the mayor so like let [TS]

  the guy who will make sure that the [TS]

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  street get plowed in the wintertime but [TS]

  Kelsey Grammer is the guy who's got his [TS]

  eyes on you could we could we could have [TS]

  like it hadn't have presidential [TS]

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  your website so now now Phil Phil hasn't [TS]

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  about what he's going to give us that [TS]

  i'm going to go next and save him the [TS]

  last what [TS]

  ok because i don't i don't feel I i have [TS]

  no notes although I gave it a slight [TS]

  amount of thought i gave it no notes in [TS]

  this way also if you are truly picking [TS]

  gambit in the x-files I will have you be [TS]

  at my x-files reboot does not feature [TS]

  gambit in any one thing but thatthat's [TS]

  my pitches i think i think we should [TS]

  bring back the x-files I think I think [TS]

  that's a great [TS]

  go with a great premise of we talk about [TS]

  standalone episodes great standalone [TS]

  monster-of-the-week kind episodes thread [TS]

  through with a little bit of a [TS]

  conspiracy it was wheezing by the end [TS]

  the last few years were awful i think [TS]

  that the movies have been problematic to [TS]

  awful as well it's a franchise though [TS]

  that I feel like it has a lot of legs in [TS]

  it because at its core it is law [TS]

  enforcement people investigating strange [TS]

  happenings and and there are [TS]

  opportunities to tell Twilight Zone like [TS]

  stories but in an anthology format but [TS]

  with some continuing cast and i really [TS]

  like shows like that that's one of the [TS]

  reasons i think i like Doctor Who so [TS]

  much is that it is essentially an [TS]

  anthology show with a recurring element [TS]

  and characters you get a little bit of [TS]

  both you get some jamba shifts and some [TS]

  different locations while also having [TS]

  some continuity which I think people [TS]

  like people don't want completely new [TS]

  characters every week so I think you [TS]

  bring back the x-files what I would not [TS]

  do honestly is go down the path of the [TS]

  world of TV has changed a lot since the [TS]

  x-files one there are lots of shows [TS]

  about teams of people who do autopsies [TS]

  and investigate strange happenings of [TS]

  one sort or another and the mai-mai show [TS]

  pitch is most like how fringe started [TS]

  but fringe went off the rails and in a [TS]

  good way sort of but off the rails very [TS]

  quickly into a very different show than [TS]

  what i'm really describing here which is [TS]

  you've got a team of people it's a [TS]

  obviously a post-911 world there is a [TS]

  department of homeland security group [TS]

  that has people connections to various [TS]

  government agencies and it's and it's a [TS]

  team that's investigating various a [TS]

  mysterious happenings and checking them [TS]

  for major security problems and is there [TS]

  terrorism involved and and one of these [TS]

  teams is caught up in something in the [TS]

  pilot episode that is a very strange [TS]

  occurrence that they may be there is [TS]

  missing time maybe they see something [TS]

  that they don't understand but what that [TS]

  does is it leads them to become a to [TS]

  start to wonder that these these cases [TS]

  that they just pawn off and file away in [TS]

  the in the you know the draw big X on [TS]

  them and throw them in a pile because [TS]

  they're they're ridiculous they're [TS]

  obviously fake maybe some of those [TS]

  strange alien supernatural psychic [TS]

  whatever kind of cases that they they [TS]

  wrote off both [TS]

  or maybe there's something to them [TS]

  because they've all experienced [TS]

  something that they don't quite [TS]

  understand and they don't entirely [TS]

  believe it actually think that you you [TS]

  would still have two lead characters who [TS]

  are the two main investigators but i'd [TS]

  like to give them a team I'd like them [TS]

  to have a a an NSA kind of spy computer [TS]

  person I'd like them to have a commander [TS]

  of the group maybe there's a forensic [TS]

  specialist or something like that but I [TS]

  don't want to be I wanted to kind of be [TS]

  the group against the world and not the [TS]

  group against each other where the [TS]

  bottom where the bosses like you guys [TS]

  following your crazy x-files things get [TS]

  back to work I I kind of wanted the team [TS]

  to be kind of unified and then have the [TS]

  other agencies in Washington skeptical [TS]

  of what they're doing and yes we will [TS]

  cast John Hodgman since that seems to be [TS]

  required as one of the government [TS]

  something's John Hodgman for everything [TS]

  maybe the condition of the computer guy [TS]

  i'm going to get your digits [TS]

  yeah she could be it could be that's his [TS]

  nickname yea it's not his legal name he [TS]

  gave me the same he will play all of the [TS]

  lone gunman curious people he will be [TS]

  yes they will call him the lone gunman [TS]

  but he's just one guy singular just the [TS]

  one lone government uh so yeah you'll [TS]

  have two characters who are who are more [TS]

  or less the leads are male and female i [TS]

  actually one of the problems with the [TS]

  x-files after hundred episodes where [TS]

  Mulder is always right that it's [TS]

  something supernatural Scully saying RG [TS]

  Mulder I don't know you seriously [TS]

  believe that yes I he's always right [TS]

  stop being so skeptical so in this i'm [TS]

  thinking more that they'll have [TS]

  different angles on what they're seeing [TS]

  where somebody will be more inclined [TS]

  toward conspiracies or aliens or [TS]

  something like that and somebody else [TS]

  will be more inclined toward the [TS]

  supernatural or psychic abilities or [TS]

  something like that and it's really an [TS]

  argument about not it is this real or [TS]

  not but what is the the form that this [TS]

  strange thing will take so I just I [TS]

  think you do that and then to andy's [TS]

  point about standalone you know i should [TS]

  like this is going to have to have a an [TS]

  overarching archive I'd like it to be [TS]

  something not about grey aliens and [TS]

  flying saucers so I'm thinking something [TS]

  like strange events that might be like [TS]

  the emergence of an artificial [TS]

  intelligence that's taking over [TS]

  computers around the world or some other [TS]

  kind of more sci-fi premise that's not [TS]

  the grey alien thing [TS]

  and.and yeah i just think within that [TS]

  you have that a very light story arc [TS]

  that plays out over many seasons but you [TS]

  spend a lot of time going to weird small [TS]

  towns that her probably just vancouver [TS]

  doubling for everywhere else in the [TS]

  world and investigating strange things [TS]

  in small towns and discovering bizarre [TS]

  anthology like twilight zone like things [TS]

  week to week which was for me why i love [TS]

  that show when it was on and I think [TS]

  that core got lost when they got into [TS]

  all the mythology and you know David [TS]

  Duchovny made to move the show to LA and [TS]

  it got really popular and they cast a [TS]

  dancer and Lily Tomlin and you got out [TS]

  of hand but I think you could dial it [TS]

  back [TS]

  learn some of the lessons of your CSI [TS]

  NCIS is your bones is and and do a show [TS]

  that that that is that more modern on [TS]

  procedural ensemble with the x-files DNA [TS]

  and it so that's my pitch [TS]

  so how does josh holloway figuring I'm [TS]

  glad you asked i was gonna say i love [TS]

  the idea of the team [TS]

  I just think if you're gonna have gambit [TS]

  you want to balance them out with your [TS]

  particular orgasmic would be on love [TS]

  dance with dazzler I mean come on [TS]

  yeah sure Oh Cheryl me guess in the end [TS]

  the end the end of course professor x [TS]

  who's the leader of the x-files who do [TS]

  you see as Nightcrawler yes I I that's a [TS]

  good question perhaps josh holloway [TS]

  there you go [TS]

  uh I collect structure the deal so that [TS]

  you do you have to do like to james [TS]

  michael Straczynski thing where you have [TS]

  the red binder where you personally have [TS]

  written down the entire story arc season [TS]

  four season four season and even put [TS]

  into self-destruct laws so that it can't [TS]

  proceed beyond the five seasons you work [TS]

  it out [TS]

  in fact I've already destroyed all my [TS]

  notes so there's no risk that it will [TS]

  have to be uncovered stays me the [TS]

  trouble there's the door [TS]

  I don't know Jason for the part of [TS]

  Scully are you open to Casting vin [TS]

  scully in that role [TS]

  I'm walking into a dark and scary room [TS]

  and suddenly is alien dripping subsets [TS]

  of primordial ooze like a young Sandy [TS]

  Koufax but that that's missing an [TS]

  opportunity I i think i think that this [TS]

  works great this is another great [TS]

  opportunity to a gender flips instead of [TS]

  a guy in a woman it's a woman and [TS]

  excellent [TS]

  you know I and I considered that very [TS]

  strongly but i think i'm a bridge too [TS]

  far i actually wouldn't in the [TS]

  characters Mulder and Scully and I would [TS]

  leave open the possibility of as we said [TS]

  with these other shows you make the nod [TS]

  and you say yes oh well there were other [TS]

  people who worked on these cases in the [TS]

  past and and you you pay its respect [TS]

  while also not having it be a direct [TS]

  gets really Andrea's dressed as a guide [TS]

  but Dustin Hoffman dressed as a girl I [TS]

  think vin scully though is very tempting [TS]

  you could be the head of the Union maybe [TS]

  as batman's organs up into small pieces [TS]

  of meat like farmer John sausages [TS]

  that's too bad that's just tell me [TS]

  there's that there's like one line in [TS]

  which their superior size now look I [TS]

  won't have you going all moulder on me [TS]

  there you go you know is exactly why you [TS]

  at all [TS]

  I can't believe this horrible hit thing [TS]

  happened under the beautiful cerulean [TS]

  blue sky and and the most important [TS]

  thing [TS]

  whichever network picks it up that's the [TS]

  first name of the lead actor ever [TS]

  that's right that's right el rey moulder [TS]

  how can you do that now given the [TS]

  contemporary audience could you started [TS]

  off as a reboot of the x-files and then [TS]

  slowly turn into a reboot of twin peaks [TS]

  without telling anybody any of the [TS]

  audience was way too late it's possible [TS]

  i think that in some ways for motor [TS]

  starts like eating cherry pies that said [TS]

  that could have could all work in the in [TS]

  the Timothy Westfall unified theory [TS]

  universe if we're if we're shooting area [TS]

  if we're shooting in Vancouver then it [TS]

  will we might as well make it twin peaks [TS]

  because you know international exposure [TS]

  to friend we've been traveling all over [TS]

  the country and yet it's the same phone [TS]

  company that runs all of these phone [TS]

  company all these billboards and pay [TS]

  phones [TS]

  it's part of the conspiracy or Phil we [TS]

  take a page from the old television City [TS]

  Chronicle premise of TV and we have them [TS]

  investigate various things each of which [TS]

  is itself a reference to some strange TV [TS]

  show or other so there's a murder [TS]

  insistently Alaska there's a murderer in [TS]

  twin peaks you know where the whole [TS]

  town's been abducted and we just go and [TS]

  every every week they investigate a new [TS]

  crime that happened in some other TV [TS]

  show will be another effectively be cops [TS]

  the TV [TS]

  measure reference guest star of the week [TS]

  show of shows [TS]

  yes it could be that but that's not my [TS]

  initial premise but you know I'll do [TS]

  whatever it takes to get this baby on [TS]

  the air [TS]

  I'm just saying if you don't have Angela [TS]

  Lansbury in there in the murder she [TS]

  wrote tribute episode you know why are [TS]

  you doing the show I i would write that [TS]

  show in a heartbeat is their part for me [TS]

  why did he leave town will be back he [TS]

  just went down about you go to talk to [TS]

  his psychoanalyst where where where [TS]

  Angela Lansbury ends up being an [TS]

  extraterrestrial monster that his [TS]

  convinced a small town that she solves [TS]

  all the murders and she's been the one [TS]

  doing all the murders that was the [TS]

  original I that because around that one [TS]

  is after you not remember we have [TS]

  murdered shot it is that's exactly how [TS]

  it and i am now closing my browser tab [TS]

  for murders everybody uh I thought that [TS]

  was at the Chumley yeah murder she [TS]

  caused anyway I I like exhales I feel [TS]

  like they it's sitting right out there [TS]

  as a premise and making these terrible [TS]

  movies every few years is not the way [TS]

  they should do what they should bring [TS]

  back and i think i think it works beyond [TS]

  the actors way so what movies [TS]

  yeah complete that's this example plate [TS]

  will put good [TS]

  hey Phil help me out here what do you [TS]

  have I have two pitches Jason ok one a [TS]

  serious pitch and on one first for us [TS]

  okay and one a very serious [TS]

  alright alright let's start off with the [TS]

  series but first let me take you back to [TS]

  a a time in our country that i like to [TS]

  call 1986 alright it's a fantastical [TS]

  time where there's music television [TS]

  also I've got I've got a tab open for [TS]

  google music what's what song from the [TS]

  era shall be playing as the background [TS]

  think you deserve the air tonight by [TS]

  Phil Collins might be good [TS]

  that's the that's the guess i'm going to [TS]

  make here it's a very good guess because [TS]

  attribution there was a very popular [TS]

  series called Miami Vice yes you may [TS]

  want to play the collected works of yon [TS]

  hammer now Jan Hammer as his friends [TS]

  column let you do the gender switch and [TS]

  yeah sure [TS]

  yes ok 96 Miami Vice josh holloway might [TS]

  be excellent [TS]

  it's a very popular show that's not the [TS]

  one I'm rebooting now the 1 i'm [TS]

  rebooting is the follow-up series to my [TS]

  advice that Michael man did when NBC [TS]

  said you're brilliant we give you carte [TS]

  blanche I'm gonna do it showed called [TS]

  crime story I'm story i love you [TS]

  that's two of us baby crime story was [TS]

  set in the nineteen sixties it started [TS]

  off in Chicago it gradually moved to Las [TS]

  Vegas it was a very stylish show very [TS]

  good madam respects not so good in some [TS]

  other respects in that it went crazy and [TS]

  went off the practicals several times um [TS]

  the the first season 1 cliffhanger was [TS]

  that the main villain was blown up in a [TS]

  nuclear nuclear test in las vegas desert [TS]

  only he didn't die he came back alive [TS]

  but didn't have Hulk powers and and they [TS]

  had one plot line where the main villain [TS]

  after surviving the nuclear blast flew [TS]

  down to like a banana republic to set up [TS]

  some crime domain just as it happened in [TS]

  real life and it it it was um it was in [TS]

  many ways a very good series and in many [TS]

  ways a very bad series and do not [TS]

  ways a very bad series and do not [TS]

  if you go back and watch some of the [TS]

  episodes as i have uh because some of [TS]

  the movement posted to YouTube what [TS]

  you're struck by is how slow the pacing [TS]

  is because um somewhere around the [TS]

  mid-nineties with ER in such the pacing [TS]

  for TV shows became very very different [TS]

  so that some of your ad shows and crime [TS]

  story is a a prime example with this you [TS]

  are just sitting there waiting for [TS]

  things to happen going to come on [TS]

  so what I would do is reboot crime story [TS]

  uh and the main thing i do is make it a [TS]

  limited run series so you don't have [TS]

  these stupid cliffhangers where a guy [TS]

  goes out into the desert and gets blown [TS]

  up by a nuclear bomb and comes back [TS]

  alive [TS]

  you don't have these of these open ended [TS]

  things rather you have 12 episodes you [TS]

  madman the hell out of it where it [TS]

  mirrors actual things going on [TS]

  throughout history and it tells the [TS]

  story of of a las vegas i think is a [TS]

  very a interesting story to tell with a [TS]

  lot of dramatic possibilities there was [TS]

  a show not too long ago with dennis [TS]

  quaid that failed miserably at doing [TS]

  this and i think uh in the hands of a [TS]

  competent director a competent [TS]

  showrunner could really be done well [TS]

  over the course of 13 to 24 episodes and [TS]

  that would be my pitch bring back crime [TS]

  story but this time put a couple of put [TS]

  a couple of limits on it I think that's [TS]

  good i I think that premise a period [TS]

  pieces kinda hard-bitten police [TS]

  detective guys limited-run i think i [TS]

  think that's a nice so I think that's a [TS]

  nice idea it was stylish it was really [TS]

  stylish and and the period thing was was [TS]

  a very different thing for TV in that [TS]

  area to go back to the sixties like that [TS]

  i remember well you have i've got a [TS]

  whole half shelf of books on Vegas [TS]

  history here that might go into a [TS]

  project i'm thinking about so it is a [TS]

  very interesting times that project [TS]

  crime story the TV [TS]

  it might be now and let's not sell short [TS]

  the the Chicago portions of the the [TS]

  serio actually I like many ways my [TS]

  favorite part of the series I really [TS]

  liked how they did that it was a more [TS]

  solid show at that point and sort of the [TS]

  vegas thing was sort of like oh well [TS]

  let's make it flashy yeah and and then [TS]

  you have the nuclear bomb so I can't [TS]

  help but feel that the biggest parts [TS]

  were NBC go network notes yeah we yeah [TS]

  we wanted we wanted to Miami Vice like [TS]

  show this isn't my advice is moody and [TS]

  set the sixties what the hell are you [TS]

  doing okay i'll move it to Vegas their [TS]

  nuclear bomb tho crime story nuke the [TS]

  fridge 25 years earlier [TS]

  exactly i see a young George Lucas in [TS]

  1986 going I'm going to have to use this [TS]

  and so what's your what's your what's [TS]

  your more serious pitch my very serious [TS]

  bitch huh [TS]

  and I i will brook no dissent on this [TS]

  one here that Andy I'm and I'm listening [TS]

  intently and making notes about how i'm [TS]

  going to descend with all right it's set [TS]

  in boston MA let me take you back in [TS]

  time out to the battery [TS]

  okay are we still in 1986 or have we [TS]

  moved now imagine world where you go [TS]

  back in time again for the very first [TS]

  time and win a World Gym we've gotten in [TS]

  our time machine [TS]

  how can i watched crime story in 1986 [TS]

  we've set the dial back 10 years to time [TS]

  I like to call 1976 [TS]

  ok it's the Bicentennial those tall [TS]

  ships are really raising America's [TS]

  spirits after Watergate a young peanut [TS]

  farmer has emerged from the fields of [TS]

  Georgia his name Jimmy Carter [TS]

  meanwhile a young Roone Arledge says [TS]

  what can we do to bring joy to this [TS]

  nation ribbon asunder by Watergate [TS]

  bye-bye vietnam by by scandal and and [TS]

  and recession i know just like we need [TS]

  to bring this nation together we will [TS]

  bring networks together and have a [TS]

  battle a battle of network stars so I [TS]

  I think we need to bring back battle of [TS]

  the Network Stars it has been too long [TS]

  it has been a 25 years i believe since [TS]

  the last battle of the Network Stars and [TS]

  I think that that the TV universe is [TS]

  change so much you could literally have [TS]

  a battle of the Network Stars olympics [TS]

  with a parade of networks [TS]

  here's the delegation from netflix oh [TS]

  look it's FX Margo Martindale is leading [TS]

  the charge [TS]

  hey everyone here's the AMC exactly uh [TS]

  they have imagined of madmen and then [TS]

  the walking dead i would love to see Tom [TS]

  Selleck and corey burton you know in a [TS]

  foot race against each other [TS]

  god damn you sir i had odd [TS]

  damn you sir do you realize how many [TS]

  years and lives we've applied to finally [TS]

  diffusing that situation but no you've [TS]

  got stretching I'll on adidas tank tops [TS]

  to sell and you want to reiterate my [TS]

  hostilities just so you can profiteer I [TS]

  say god damn you sir but we barely got [TS]

  Gabe Kaplan out of that alive and here [TS]

  between the networks and now this Chuck [TS]

  Conrad is still on the loose [TS]

  still the ace of spades of the dick and [TS]

  the deck of most-wanted Tim Reed is [TS]

  still trying to get out of the kayak [TS]

  race so many of my happiest childhood [TS]

  memories revolve around that wasn't [TS]

  motorcars it has it has a fan of team [TS]

  ABC i will never forget the tears that I [TS]

  said when longtime kaplan long time [TS]

  captain Gabe Kaplan switched over to [TS]

  team NBC [TS]

  that's right oh yeah I was like that was [TS]

  a good day when I Ciara see proud as a [TS]

  peacock you just got to be there [TS]

  yeah yeah yep I mean ratings were [TS]

  important but they won the Network Stars [TS]

  and I i suspect to this day that NBC [TS]

  cast bubba smith and show specifically [TS]

  so that they could have bubba smith on [TS]

  their team one year I mean you don't go [TS]

  into battle with Charlene Tilton you [TS]

  don't go into battle with Randy oaks you [TS]

  bring Bubba Smith to the table so how [TS]

  does but how does this work as a show is [TS]

  it is it on one network doesn't rotate [TS]

  around like the emmys is it is it a [TS]

  series it's just that I feel like an [TS]

  elimination competition because there's [TS]

  so many networks now in exactly 4 13 to [TS]

  26 weeks it's funny that you should [TS]

  mention the emmys Jason because I sort [TS]

  of envision this as being an [TS]

  end-of-the-summer type type gathering [TS]

  hasta love TV that culminates in the [TS]

  emmys you have your week-long of [TS]

  competition and games and tournaments [TS]

  and and and you bring back the dunking [TS]

  booth and the relay race in the end and [TS]

  the obstacle course but you also simon [TS]

  says yes i was going to say this fails [TS]

  without Simon sighs you and other [TS]

  elements to the show you have a show [TS]

  that's on the on the cusp of getting [TS]

  renewed hey bring in the the stars of [TS]

  that show to compete in the Battle of [TS]

  the Network Stars Hunger Games style and [TS]

  we'll figure out if if community [TS]

  deserves another season hope you're good [TS]

  at cycling joel mchale because that's [TS]

  the only way your show is coming back [TS]

  maybe it should be like the like the [TS]

  all-star game where May sweeps decides [TS]

  which network gets the home-field [TS]

  advantage [TS]

  I like the way you're thinking yeah yeah [TS]

  we watch which junior college gets the [TS]

  penny pollack and how it's going to be a [TS]

  pepper done it has to be a pepper done I [TS]

  i think that the one factor if you'll [TS]

  notice when battle of the Network Stars [TS]

  really lost its cultural cachet as it [TS]

  were was when they replaced Howard [TS]

  Cosell as the the host of it they they [TS]

  brought me you brought dick Van Patten [TS]

  on and I I'm sure we all dearly love [TS]

  dick Van Patten and his contributions to [TS]

  the world poker tour but quite honestly [TS]

  he's no Howard Cosell so the only person [TS]

  that I could think of that brings that [TS]

  equal party either love him or you hate [TS]

  him would be Gus Johnson who's a fox [TS]

  sports announcer who is most famous [TS]

  currently for screaming at people when [TS]

  when things of varying degrees of [TS]

  excitement happen i don't see I think he [TS]

  would be a fantastic uh co celion like [TS]

  addition to a show that i'm calling [TS]

  battle of the stars 21st cent battle of [TS]

  the Network Stars 21st century edition [TS]

  maybe down up with tim mccarver just for [TS]

  extra hate I i think so i think you're [TS]

  on behalf of mr. vice guys like I'm [TS]

  definitely be on board with this because [TS]

  especially like if you really update the [TS]

  obstacle course because i would love to [TS]

  see Lena Dunham have to do the wipeout [TS]

  course or the American Ninja Warrior [TS]

  first and fore and forced to keep trying [TS]

  until she finishes everybody because [TS]

  everybody has those like TV people they [TS]

  really don't like and you can't and [TS]

  usually because they're on popular shows [TS]

  they don't wind up on those bottom of [TS]

  the basement reality TV shows like i'm a [TS]

  celebrity get out of here let's get me [TS]

  out of here but yeah if you if your [TS]

  basic contractually say you also current [TS]

  work we're contracting it for 12 super [TS]

  12 episodes [TS]

  + 1 special and they don't tell you that [TS]

  by the way if we don't if you give us [TS]

  some guff about about your per diem that [TS]

  one special is going to have to be [TS]

  Battle Network Stars and yes it will be [TS]

  the the Ninja Warrior course we won't [TS]

  shift to show around we'll leave it on [TS]

  for 10 weeks in a row but you have to do [TS]

  the dunk tank we've heard a lot of [TS]

  pitches tonight but I don't think we've [TS]

  heard one bad idea involving battle of [TS]

  the Network Stars all of this is gold [TS]

  oh yeah and you know where we're having [TS]

  some last what happens [TS]

  having some chuckles but I i really [TS]

  wouldn't fight everyone within the sound [TS]

  of my voice to go on youtube and lookup [TS]

  battle of the Network Stars clip where [TS]

  Robert Conrad is in said step out some [TS]

  sort of rules violation that's what I [TS]

  was it's it's also something that would [TS]

  fill all of these networks primetime [TS]

  schedule we're having trouble coming up [TS]

  with stuff that actually works it's [TS]

  literally on all of them at the same [TS]

  time [TS]

  yeah because I mean Hollywood game night [TS]

  please shoot me [TS]

  ya know but I'm not another week I was [TS]

  sitting here fired up [TS]

  youtube on the appletv and we watched [TS]

  about I don't know three hours of old [TS]

  battle of the Network Stars clips and [TS]

  the kids were fascinated like TV stars [TS]

  used to do this and I had to explain why [TS]

  the one the one set of Clips had billy [TS]

  crystal and Howard Cosell and why that [TS]

  was a big deal and david letterman [TS]

  telecasters and and and they were like [TS]

  why is Billy Crystal doing that because [TS]

  you can do a Howard Cosell impression [TS]

  who's Howard Cosell that guy that guy [TS]

  and by the end by the end of that they [TS]

  were totally they're like why don't we [TS]

  do this [TS]

  no Phil Phil has given us the gift that [TS]

  will keep on giving which is that [TS]

  there's not like there's literally is [TS]

  not a bad part of this pitch it would [TS]

  even be once I don't want to reboot [TS]

  celebrity bowling i love was a little [TS]

  boy I would like to just run by anmol [TS]

  that November because it used to be [TS]

  twice a year that battle of the Network [TS]

  Stars would come along and here is the [TS]

  November 1978 CBS team as Captain by [TS]

  McLean Stevenson he had valerie [TS]

  bertinelli he had LeVar Burton he had [TS]

  Lou Ferrigno he had David Letterman he [TS]

  had Tim breed he had shearling Tilton [TS]

  and someone named Pat Klaus yep [TS]

  from veteran hi that is a fantastic team [TS]

  i should say that they are bringing mac [TS]

  celebrity bowling is apparently being [TS]

  done by Nerdist industries and this they [TS]

  are they did a bunch of episodes over [TS]

  yeah it's gonna be awful but I would [TS]

  know what's good [TS]

  it's actually not yet daytime maximum [TS]

  karen gillan bowling a comic con that [TS]

  was kind of hilarious to watch doctor [TS]

  who tried to bolt [TS]

  you know i will go say go find the [TS]

  celebrity bowling episode with Michael [TS]

  Douglas as one of the guests because the [TS]

  whole time he has this look on his face [TS]

  of just fury that he has been trapped in [TS]

  a bowling alley and forced to do this [TS]

  it's a BCS change of San Francisco's [TS]

  michael douglas and not the talk show [TS]

  host Mike Douglas right yeah okay [TS]

  yes and over an extinction talk talk [TS]

  show host Mike Douglas raging with fury [TS]

  is a beautiful thing to there is in fact [TS]

  a a multi DVD set of celebrity bowling [TS]

  which are you can probably order using [TS]

  the incomparables amazon affiliate code [TS]

  it's like 20 bucks and it has it has [TS]

  shatter it has loads of really great [TS]

  celebrity bowling episodes on it and i [TS]

  would argue that it is more enjoyable [TS]

  than most things that you could buy on [TS]

  DVD these days [TS]

  several years ago I I live-tweeted a [TS]

  marathon of it under a celebrity bowling [TS]

  account [TS]

  Jamie Farr was a two-time captain of the [TS]

  CBS team on battle of the Network Stars [TS]

  other multiple captain that magic figure [TS]

  included several merchants jamie farr [TS]

  I'd like to I'd like to take a moment to [TS]

  pause for word from our sponsor the [TS]

  battle of the Network Stars page on [TS]

  wikipedia now i'm reading through it [TS]

  I I have lost all interesting thought [TS]

  you people who i am in a battle of the [TS]

  Network Stars wormhole yeah yeah pretty [TS]

  much all right if there's nothing more [TS]

  than i'm going to close up the TV reboot [TS]

  pitch but we just got just one note one [TS]

  or more oh I got a black and brown or [TS]

  dancing around it i hope you will bring [TS]

  out our dead now if you've got other [TS]

  pitches you'd like to make quickly [TS]

  please go okay well I've got one that [TS]

  serious and one that's less serious the [TS]

  one that serious and this is something [TS]

  not more serious its user it's it's more [TS]

  it's more serious than very serious fair [TS]

  enough [TS]

  firefly the animated series it's [TS]

  literally the only way to get that cast [TS]

  back together [TS]

  there's an audience for it and even with [TS]

  the comic adaptations which are being [TS]

  treated as canonical go ahead and do [TS]

  that as something like what DC [TS]

  Entertainment has been doing with their [TS]

  features do that as a as a feature kick [TS]

  off to an actual netflix or hulu series [TS]

  or something like that [TS]

  why not do it i mean i literally can get [TS]

  each of the actors as their availability [TS]

  allows into a studio there you go over [TS]

  and done great idea less serious less [TS]

  serious WKRP FM a show about johnny [TS]

  fever doing podcasts peridot FM don't [TS]

  have him yeah well there's somebody I [TS]

  just checked and somebody actually owns [TS]

  WKRP dot FM and it looks awful and I [TS]

  think it's hosted on godaddy yeah well [TS]

  by well and replace it but please can we [TS]

  please David you have something I have [TS]

  to one that I I'd be very serious about [TS]

  because i have about I don't know 80 [TS]

  outlines for stories for this and I [TS]

  don't have to do it under this name but [TS]

  it would be so much more fun to do it [TS]

  under the name twilight zone because [TS]

  it's just because the main things might [TS]

  the main rules i have for that is it's [TS]

  got to be in black and white [TS]

  it's got to be in period it's it's like [TS]

  film noir it's like science noir it [TS]

  never works in in modern-day color and I [TS]

  mean they're ok they're just not all [TS]

  that entertaining and and it has to kind [TS]

  of ignore science reality because how [TS]

  many of those episodes I mean how many [TS]

  millions of miles are we from the Sun [TS]

  but according to Rod Serling where three [TS]

  so so it's like it you don't need [TS]

  science fact [TS]

  necessarily it's not important the other [TS]

  one is also kind of serious but it's a [TS]

  show that nobody knows and I fell in [TS]

  love with it and i think it would really [TS]

  work these days 60 minutes will [TS]

  reanimate more least I'm I'm ways on [TS]

  Eddie I'm seeing John Hodgman is more of [TS]

  a safer world one john hodgman is Morley [TS]

  Safer Josh Holloway is mike wallace yes [TS]

  no wait he'd be Dan Rather he'd be dan [TS]

  Rather jack black is mike wallace but no [TS]

  I like Holloway's mike wallace Jackie [TS]

  Jackie black as more of a sudden [TS]

  everything kosher salt lake city really [TS]

  that's good yeah [TS]

  will smith is it brand ok no no this is [TS]

  what you want to know is actually this [TS]

  this was on for 13 weeks in 1964 between [TS]

  Gilligan's Island Gunsmoke and there's [TS]

  just no logical reason why they [TS]

  scheduled this was a show called mr. [TS]

  Broadway with all what's-his-name friend [TS]

  Broadway the Craig Craig what's this who [TS]

  was Peter Gunn as as a Broadway press [TS]

  agent who is sometimes he would solve [TS]

  murders and sometimes he would deal with [TS]

  christine celebrities and it i just see [TS]

  this is like you know the good parts of [TS]

  smash with with a little bit of mad men [TS]

  with a little bit of crime story all [TS]

  hearts of smash so you mean all of them [TS]

  the songs [TS]

  oh we're going to have it about smash [TS]

  aren't me [TS]

  no I don't think there'll be a lot of [TS]

  fun and ok thank God but there's there's [TS]

  a dave brubeck album he did the music [TS]

  for it and it's called jazz impressions [TS]

  of New York gorgeous gorgeous music so [TS]

  it'd be great to to just like take that [TS]

  and give it life [TS]

  alright and we can we get quick can we [TS]

  get dave brubeck for the reboot we'd [TS]

  have to reanimate but josh holloway [TS]

  would make a good Dave group [TS]

  alright good good to know good to know [TS]

  and and it would start John John Hodgman [TS]

  as mr. Broadway reality narrowness [TS]

  Broadway the deranged millionaire ok [TS]

  goes to tear it out and make condos [TS]

  that's right but there's going to be a [TS]

  bikini car wash that will earn money [TS]

  to prevent him from destroying broadway [TS]

  and replace mr. and mr. Broadway's rival [TS]

  is Freddie park place [TS]

  yep and just mock see if this next show [TS]

  is a hit I bringing the bulldozers head [TS]

  off Broadway let's count avenue of the [TS]

  americas this is archenemy [TS]

  uh Andy did you have introduced fifty [TS]

  first Street how do you have anymore [TS]

  one-line neil patrick harris alan [TS]

  cumming and kristin chenoweth in cop [TS]

  Rock oh my god so we go perfectly [TS]

  oh my god and smash it's a it's about a [TS]

  bunch of it's about a bunch of cops who [TS]

  get stranded on a large rock it's it's [TS]

  about Broadway cops you'd want to show [TS]

  called Broadway cops [TS]

  alright rum tum tugger we're bringing [TS]

  you in [TS]

  sorry anything else out there we are we [TS]

  done i have no other pitches that was I [TS]

  i I'm i justjust the Exile storing [TS]

  gambit and professor and spyware where [TS]

  they were the throw a jokes a star trek [TS]

  the next next generations or wagered our [TS]

  track return to Voyager island i do [TS]

  think there needs to be a star trek show [TS]

  in all seriousness and and that I don't [TS]

  want to set it in the JJ Abrams reboot [TS]

  universe in that time period i think [TS]

  that would be great because it there [TS]

  unencumbered by a lot of continuity then [TS]

  but i do think Star Trek actually works [TS]

  better on happening on through the third [TS]

  move on TV so they need to do [TS]

  yeah yeah it's happening after the third [TS]

  me what I wanted to do a show called [TS]

  before mash alright it's just the [TS]

  adventures of Hawkeye Pierce and main if [TS]

  that really takes off you could follow [TS]

  the sequel during mash Terry mashed [TS]

  potato mash the young Hawkeye Pierce [TS]

  adventures yes sir [TS]

  during match what sort of me this [TS]

  Rashomon version of mass where it's the [TS]

  same plots but filmed from different [TS]

  perspectives [TS]

  I i think it's a good time to end I [TS]

  think this has been an interesting [TS]

  exercise i like that it wasn't a draft i [TS]

  like it was a little bit more [TS]

  collaborative I don't know why we are [TS]

  not producing shows at at TV networks [TS]

  today however I haven't listened to this [TS]

  episode yet so that might give give it [TS]

  away but i thought this was a lot of fun [TS]

  and I do think that there [TS]

  I mean Hollywood is dedicated to [TS]

  bringing back all the old stuff and [TS]

  turning it into movies or TV [TS]

  shows again so if you're gonna do it do [TS]

  it right and and I think we've got some [TS]

  suggestions so you know where r please [TS]

  contact us we have a reasonable fee if [TS]

  you would if you would like to to get in [TS]

  on our brilliant ideas about how the [TS]

  back bring back some old TV shows [TS]

  I'd like to thank my guests for [TS]

  participating in this most excellent of [TS]

  panels David lower thanks for being here [TS]

  thanks for having me and not oh thank [TS]

  you very much for being here tonight i [TS]

  actually went upstairs and got a second [TS]

  pillow case for all the money that I'm [TS]

  going to be given for the for the magnet [TS]

  before the for the Rockford Files reboot [TS]

  pilot excellent excellent [TS]

  Phil Michaels thank you so much for [TS]

  being here battleon you network stars [TS]

  and voice s to yawn [TS]

  thanks for being here I thank you for [TS]

  having me Magnum Magnum Magnum Magnum [TS]

  Magnum John Hodgman will be here next [TS]

  week as the new host of income for bowl [TS]

  and Josh Holloway will be his cast until [TS]

  then thanks everybody listening [TS]

  thanks my guess and we hope we could [TS]

  watch the shows we talked about the [TS]

  original sir are generally pretty good [TS]

  do especially that battle of the Network [TS]

  Stars anyway until next time on the [TS]

  uncomfortable I've been Jason still your [TS]

  host and i will continue to be see you [TS]

  next time [TS]