319: Squirting Milky Fluid
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the uncomfortable number 319 September's
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2016 welcome back everybody to being
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we're going to talk about uh it's
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actually kind of an old movie but it's
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not a movie club it is a virus i have to
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say by request has been on the schedule
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for a little while
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it's 1979 alien classic sci-fi horror
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movie directed by ridley scott starring
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Sigourney Weaver many other interesting
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actors in this movie too
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we're doing this episode in part because
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it's an awesome old side scary side
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movie and in part because Anthony
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Johnston demanded it
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Anthony welcome hello hello Jason
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that's not a system i had had your name
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right next to it for a long time and I
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like okay let's just yeah that's good
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let's let's do it it's that's because i
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oh god what more than two years ago to
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another to another episode earlier
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episode of the show and I wasn't even a
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podcast or the time and you and I'd
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correspondent a little and you mentioned
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that will have to do a in some time and
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I immediately emailed you at 1am from
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bed saying if you ever do that i would
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love to be on that episode and so he
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will and the system works is quite the
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wheels of the podcasting grind very
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slowly but they don't eventually reached
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also joining us to talk about alien Liz
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hello hello is this like a regular
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episode yeah it is
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Wow no it's not it's not because you're
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on it's a very special
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because you're on it is on my list of
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like this my bucket list thing I can't
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figure out that we are changing lives in
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this episode of what I'm saying there's
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momentous things happening in this
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episode later we'll have the the dog
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draft will be happening anyway
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Monty ashley is also here hi Monty
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Snoopy oh sorry I mean hello hello just
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say that pic that so that's a good pic
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tho say that pic Erica and sign also
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alright i do that's wired strange so
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that's like an episode of Babylon 5
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people get married without knowing it
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and Steve let's of course is here
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because there's gross stuff and this
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girl stuff in a movie I think it's
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stabilized hi Steve you have my
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sympathies Jason for the the general or
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for thinking because I'm here
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yeah pictured here is present I feel bad
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for her now this has been on the
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schedule for solo has literally since
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the start of the podcast this has been
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on your list of things I remember going
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to see Prometheus specifically because
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we're going to talk about the soccer
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that was back today when we thought we
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just cover an entire franchise in an
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that was good in fact the notes that i
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have have all four alien movies in the
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Wow from the time i watch them whatever
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it was three years ago and it
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Prometheus was that so what about the
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alien vs predator franchise Steve no
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that's not canon finger let's not let's
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no no that's the very very dangerous
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place to talk to see where some of us
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don't even count alien cubed know for
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the next one anyway
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alien so alien is a movie that I think
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we are all too young to say that we went
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in and saw the movie and were surprised
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at what happens in it is that accurate
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because I always knew this is the movie
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where somebody has an alien come out of
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their chests spoilers for alien by the
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way points for almost 40 year old movie
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I definitely saw spaceballs before I saw
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Bailey I think I did too i didn't matter
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i saw alien in the theater I was seven
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at the time to be responsible
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well that's when it was out it's not
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like I could tell them to lay the movie
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for another three years until it's
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appropriate for me not surprised Steve
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not surprised one bit sudden theater
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with my sister and but I can honestly
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say that i was surprised because I had
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already i had a copy of a alien the
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illustrated story i think it was called
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i basically the heavy metal a associated
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graphic novel written by archie goodwin
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i think was i believe so and it was very
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very good and it also included several
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the scenes that were not yet clipped
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from the script at the time that the the
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graphic novel was written right met it
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was it was a revelation when the dvds
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and the blue race came out and i finally
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saw these scenes that I remember being
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in the graphic novel that were in the
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movie but yeah the the the chest burster
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thing was not a shock to me probably
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wouldn't have been that big shock
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yeah even if i had seen it sight unseen
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I hadn't I wasn't surprised me but not
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because it had been spoiled by reading a
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comic or people telling me but because i
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actually read the novelization by alan
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dean foster I ever saw the movie is
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really good novelization as well it is
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and it also featured those parts that
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were you know sort of subsequently cut
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out of the script which confuse the hell
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of me when I first did actually see the
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movie the eyesore on VHS first and that
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was what first intrigued me about the
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about the film was that the aladin
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foster novelizations on a shelf and the
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movie poster was the cover for it and I
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thought they were summarized strangely
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intriguing about that that cover and
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that was it's a classic poster is a
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classic sort even know it
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it does sort of diverging lot from what
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actually happens in the movie
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yes but and the egg doesn't even look
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like the eggs in the movie it's a it's a
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hand raised or something as well it
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certainly doesn't doesn't shoot green
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lightning out of line and hover that
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will never happen to our field and even
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the tagline on the poster i believe is
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in space no one can hear you scream
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that's correct but to quote the magazine
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parody of this movie they make an awful
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lot of noise I remember this the as a as
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a thing and pop pop culture just
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literally aliens the movie where that
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guy has is a chest ripped open by an
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alien and purse out and I I had not seen
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it in fact i read in arthur c clarke not
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ball 2010 they wanted there's a joke
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about how they stock alien on the ship's
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library when they're flying to Jupiter
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and somebody watches it and says who put
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this on here these people in the
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spaceship and at that point I still
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hadn't seen it but I knew what they were
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getting and I didn't I probably saw it
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at not too long after sometime in the
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late eighties but for me it was all
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about that one scene and not really
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knowing anything else about it i mean
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and then knowing that it was became a
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franchise I guess the other thing
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because then aliens came out and was a
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big hit to and then all the other things
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happen but I really didn't catch up with
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the alien franchise and told ya like the
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late eighties I think I so it was
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already a franchise when you I think so
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right when the aliens come out right
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alien ETS six yeah I'm pretty sure about
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aliens first and then went back to see
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alien wow I might have as well I know
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for sure like Monty I saw spaceballs
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first and first time I saw spaceballs i
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think was just on VHS it was with my
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parents who are big geeks and they
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actually had to explain the chest sorry
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spoilers for spaceballs explain the the
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chest burster seen spaceballs to me
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because I just didn't really get it
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because i didn't really know about the
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zeitgeist of of science-fiction horror
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movies at the time so they had to be
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like I don't know it's in it's the same
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guy from that from this movie where this
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happened so yeah thanks mom and dad
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yeah I had also that I had family
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disapproval when I was just being 10 or
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11 and my sister and I used to stare
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grandparents during summer holidays and
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often are young son Cole he's only a few
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years older than us and our cousins were
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there as well and they were just
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horrified to learn to be hansung alien
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or aliens or any had any opinion about
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alien so when we can we got to watch all
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three movies which is ok you know it
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wasn't ok was really weird and scary the
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most of it and it was probably worse for
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my sister who was really not kid with
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like the witches ruled else which is
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movie that scared the crap out of
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partners presumably meant for children
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it's so obvious next step is alien
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wasn't coping very well this but I want
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to help very constant comment rate so
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the chest purchasing wasn't exactly
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surprised when you've got your own
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wait for it wait for our way
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don't hurt what's your heart you're like
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yeah ok ok could be just so just chill
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relax enjoy the tension in the
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atmosphere instead of you telling me
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fact after fact that i don't know i mean
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it was talking I was told
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oh and this is tom skerritt never was
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really shocked about how is colin like
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have no idea tom skerritt it's why are
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you telling me I still want to be tom
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skerritt ya see by the time i saw this i
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had already seen top gun so I knew
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exactly who tom skerritt us part of the
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other reason that people were so shocked
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was because of course he's you know the
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heroic mail man you looking captain and
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you know that in itself was just quite a
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surprise at the time I was twelve
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thirteen when I saw this I know I kind
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of been older than 13 because I
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definitely saw it before aliens came out
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in 86 and i had a friend who was
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absolutely obsessed with this movie I
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mean to like obsessed with this with
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Geiger just everything and I became a
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little obsessed but nowhere near on the
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level of that he was and he was also
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really good artist so he would literally
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spend all day like drawing aliens and
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scenes from the movie and he had all the
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paraphernalia and it was just crazy so
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I'd try and get Gerard on your pc folder
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is a good way to get right principles
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yeah so yeah I saw this movie a lot when
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I was you know quite young but I don't
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know I I think it's one of those things
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that are it's another of those movies
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where there's so much that actually
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isn't on screen that apart from the
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chest bursting seen does not actually
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that much in it sort of physical Igor
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why is that is unsuitable for kids it's
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just that it's so tense and scary and
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just herbing yet is not very bloody at
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all it's really not apart from the
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Chester yet except for that one scene
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where everybody gets covered
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apart from that but that's that's that's
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really the Soul scene
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yeah thatthat's particular which is
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another reason it's so shocking right
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a parker gets carried off you know we
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don't see what really what happens to
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him a Dallas he gets grabbed and you
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don't see anything that happens to him
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originally destined to be a future host
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for an alien and lambert & Parker we
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just sort of see from the distance and
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there's blood dripping down but it's not
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like you see this is not even in focus
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yeah there's like I have a really quick
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shot that if you posit you can see what
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happens when the aliens little extended
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dead teeth come out and bite it
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Parker's head but that's about it that's
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it it's very low-key internet going
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it's like a slasher movie but the line
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item for fake blood instead went for KY
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jelly haha so this is what i want to
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mention is is that this is a movie with
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lots of sci-fi trappings that are very
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interesting i think that it it was a lot
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i kept I kept thinking as I watched it
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as most 1970 sci-fi movies do a tone was
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a huge debt to 2001 but it is a horror
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movie where everybody gets picked off
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one by one I think at its core like
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steve was listing be dead ways everybody
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everybody dies one by one until only
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Sigourney Weaver is left it is a horror
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movie in that way and that's one of the
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things that I think is fascinating about
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it is that it is it is just a horror
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movie set in a sci-fi world but it is
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unabashedly you know a slasher movie
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where the slasher is not a a phantasm or
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a madman but a killer alien but
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otherwise it's just don't you know it
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it's a slasher movie
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yeah actually I took a class in college
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called film styles and genre with David
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bordwell the american film theorists and
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historian and the every every semester
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he would do a different genre and I
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would I lucked out and got horror for
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the genre therefore the the semester i
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happen to be doing it an alien i think
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was one of the one of the first things
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that we actually watched and talked
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about for that class so i have just sort
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of always seen it as a horror movie
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because i know i had seen it before that
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but I had seen aliens so many more times
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and that of course is not a horror movie
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that's an actual yeah so my memories my
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memories of alien are really just Oh
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abiding Lee paying attention to the
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horror elements because that is that's
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sort of how I I really paid attention to
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it the first time I
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dug into the film actually the nastiest
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death by far is has got to be ash and
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yeah yeah i mean it and and the only
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reason I think that even would have
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passed muster as an r rating is because
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he's squirting milky fluid instead
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relies yeah it's pretty it's pretty foul
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if you watch it in the context of him
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being a human you know I think one of
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the reasons that this movie was has
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become so influential is because of that
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combination of Johnson guess it is a
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horror movie but it's a really good
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horror movie and because the sci-fi is a
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setting rather than the sort of driver
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in the sense of what we think of as hard
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sci-fi and also because it does such a
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good job of that kind of working-class
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dirty sci-fi yeah you know that you're
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so funny things like Star Wars but
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obviously very different context there
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because the size is setting it doesn't
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require sort of my friend Frankie
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right that it that it's using you know
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supposed to do this movie I I made a
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masterpiece and i think that the effects
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in the beginning and it's stuffed it in
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prepared for that sort of a slow burn to
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appreciate it properly but i-i-i show
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trajectory the movies beyond come on
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yes you must was that's right it's good
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exploration he got interested right
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around the time the chest burster
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really enjoyed it but that first hour is
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so slow and you know I just I just think
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that that's it probably lose a lot of
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people who watch it I used to think that
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opening stuff more and more and i think
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burn stuff goes I for me I take its seat
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opening where they're actually on the
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ship i love it i love that it has a
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chance to breathe because likely says
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something and giving you information
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during that point because it was slow
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something out of it
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mechanical roosters been dipping his
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see how it could be a little more
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saying that but I feel like I feel like
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it could've been a little more sort of
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sci-fi detail to intrigue you at the
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beginning that that it is just not there
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it was intriguing enough for a spaceship
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landings in the bank sorts of computers
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the more lights the computer had better
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it is banking and flashing green and
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why does that computer breathe in
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pace like a nineteen seventies indie
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movie will take forever and not do
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anything sure like to lay blacktop
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to really wanted to sort of bring up was
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think about I mean how
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influential this movie is being for a
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start but also Blade Runner and you know
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the movie ready Scott made after this he
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horror movies of all time
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almost every movie that's followed since
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in those genres has paid some kind of
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debts to either alien or blade runner
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it's astounding absolutely and half of
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that I quite like you made terrible
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movies now I thought the Martian was
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very very good yeah I i really like the
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Martian I i have no i haven't seen that
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we're not talking smack about 1492
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conquest of paradise are we but any of
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us should be so lucky to make even one
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thing half as good as any other of these
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movies you know they're just so
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influential it's almost hard unless unit
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old farts like us and you've lived
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this sort of before-and-after alien and
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1979 I think it's actually almost
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perfectly paced for the time it was made
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it's just doesn't it doesn't really work
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audiences got kicked myself forever for
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this I did not insist that we watch the
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movie in a darkened room away from all
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did not want to watch it in a darkened
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room with the other distractions she was
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obviously I originally saw it on VHS i
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early nineties did a double bill of
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alien aliens it started at 9pm so you
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powerful alien particularly was on the
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big screen like this was a by that point
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hundred times but are seeing it on the
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scenes like for example where the alien
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he kills Dallas was it i mean you know I
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knew it was coming and yet seeing get
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30-foot high in a darkened room
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surrounded by the dolby surround sound
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scared the crap out of me that's such a
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shots like that where the impact of
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seeing them at the theater on the big
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on the big screen but if anybody if you
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big screen do so because it really is
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extraordinary that was why I was glad i
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got to watch in college because we had
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you know it was a 35-millimeter print
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brought into the you know that the
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ballroom was great as great as it is to
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see it in the theater I've got to say
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the blu-ray of these look fantastic
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really does this if I didn't already
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have blu-ray this the alien City alien
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anthology they call the blu-ray set
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quadrille is the quadrille into is a
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dvds sorry you're right it's different
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made-up word that's it it's a
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magnificent set it's very well produced
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but the thing that really blows me away
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as I spent years watching this on VHS in
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and scan you know and pan and scan mrs.
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so much of the detail on the fringes and
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so much of the framing you know you
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don't i had forgotten having only seen
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in the theater once when I was seven so
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tonight it's unsurprising that i forgot
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but but those shots were they're
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approaching the derelict spaceship in
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pain and scan their boring as all hell
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because you only get that tiny little
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that tiny little close-up shot of them
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approaching the thing when you see it in
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on the blu-ray you really get the sense
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of how gigantic this thing is how tiny
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the crew is in comparison and it makes
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all the difference in the world
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those shots are all about scale and
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weird things with scale that whole thing
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is like this is much larger than it
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should be the body as much larger than
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it's all like that and you you you're
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right you completely miss it if it's
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just cropped into the infinite little
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square and it's gorgeous I mean that the
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wreath three and whatever the
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remastering that they did on the picture
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itself the original movie did not look
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that good by any stretch of the
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imagination so let's go to the planetoid
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I and talk about the crash base ship
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because this is one of these I mean that
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we don't have that many settings in this
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film I mean we're gonna end up on the
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Nostromo and people get picked up one by
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one but we start with this spaceship and
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it's huge and if they see it through the
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kind of fog of it you ash can you see
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there's a spaceship crash they find a
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dead alien in a chair it's super weird
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it's hard to understand even what you're
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seeing it's so strange and and like we
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said the scale of it is completely
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strange and it's it's a it's a scene
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that that is a scene that I could watch
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over and over again because it's so
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weird and confusing and creepy and i
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love that movie is basically saying
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figure look at this what do you think
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this looks like figure it out which is
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what it's what I feel like the scene is
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doing it makes the title of the movie
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into an adjective rather than and now
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it's like an HR giger painting looks
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like your penis is an unusual but
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otherwise it's a good yeah i lock the
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others are so many reasons i love you i
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like because it's forcing you to
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empathize with the crew and terribly for
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feeling what they're feeling is there
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exploring and texting and you know that
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I don't get that level of connection
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with a lot of movies and it's also its
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space horror in a way that's perfect for
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me because it means i can enjoy being
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scared was not being scared to leave the
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room after works because something's
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going to get me it's that there's enough
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of a disconnect that's why i'm not a fan
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of slasher movies because like that the
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world but spaced far that's brilliant
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anything can happen space horror because
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I'm never going to go into rocket
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because I'd be too scared even if i get
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so it's fine that's fine
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really why I thought this would be a
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good introductory horror movie for the
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kids because that it's like I said it's
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it's light on the blood and it's
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entirely happening somewhere that looks
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completely unlike their daily
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environment so they can disassociate
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from from anything yes I as a child who
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is reasonably easily scared that does
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help with the Space Jockey seen talking
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about scale this is where they use
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children in suits
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ah when you see longshots those are
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children wearing spacesuits walking
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around set to make everything seem
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bigger so John Hurt decides hey I know
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what I'm gonna do I'm gonna go down
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below in this weird thing and find a
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whole chamber full of things that look
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okay and there's things in the end and
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it's actually one of the moments that I
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really love in this is when he looks at
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one at the egg and there's like movement
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what's in there and it's so great Ridley
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Scott's happens that's what's in there
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and it's lit up by Pink Floyd's lasers
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appear how it works like I like the fact
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that the eggs are sweating upwards I've
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always thought all looking affect the
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thing that I like about it is is sort of
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the setup for this that that makes me
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not annoyed with his choices because if
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this was a sort of a scientific crew
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that was supposed to be going out and
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investigating new world a new life and
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all that kind of stuff i would be super
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annoyed somebody who just goes in by
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himself and starts poking at crap
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oh god don't see Prometheus this is a
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bunch of you know workaday folks who
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want to get home and get their money so
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then but they're doing what they're told
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to do just so that they can get out of
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here and this particular character has
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some genuine curiosity about this stuff
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so he does go in and start looking
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around and poking and and I don't have
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to be too annoyed at him because you
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know that's that's probably what you do
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well he's the one that's all excited
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he's the one that's excited about going
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out he's the one that volunteers there
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was like why am I not surprised because
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he's clearly the guy who's into the
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whole you know exploring other worlds
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stuff it's Kane who urges them to go on
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as well when lumber wants to go back
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he's the one who's saying no we have to
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incomparable the eggs in this is so much
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more yucky than they are in later movies
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as well from aliens almost a really sort
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of cleaned up and streamlined all the
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alien stuff including the aliens
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themselves and especially these words
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these eggs are horrible leathery oh yeah
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I love the shot when it opens and you
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see what looks like uncooked chicken on
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the top with vain
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yeah exactly how is a ladder or
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something awful and and so he gets a
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thing of space groups who was expecting
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nice job dummy talking about pacing by
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the way just here sometime code stuff
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for you that happens at 34 minutes
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almost exactly half an hour later is the
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haha yeah and almost exactly
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half an hour after that is the ash
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revelation so the whole film is divided
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into 30 minute chunks
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I would have loved to see this movie and
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not know which a horror movie because
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it's called alien and you have a half
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hour of just screwed around on a
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spaceship you're thinking all right
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where's the alien then my god what
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yes if they call this movie like space I
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scholars or something and that ice road
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spacers something like it seems like
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we're kind of going through the plot at
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this point so yeah I wanted to to bring
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in how much I appreciate having seen it
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a million times how well they do the ash
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plotline and how subtle the indications
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that he's not entirely human
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yeah kind of come in as you go along
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like and how he sort of suddenly pushing
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them to go investigate even though
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nobody really is that into it except for
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Cain like a there's a point early on
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where they land the ship has been
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damaged and Dallas a like well we can I
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think it's actually can says we can't go
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out and this because it's a you know
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it's nighttime and it's cold and the
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winds of space or blowing him and asks
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hopefully chimes in well mother says the
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sun's coming up in 20 minutes
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she's the one who also persuade your
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coast character that he should so they
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should investigate the beacon remember
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when they're right
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no just telling them all that yeah that
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we've had the SOS and he's like well
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that's not in my contract and ashes on
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his life actually it is and if you don't
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go you'll lose all your shares right
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money and really wants to go out and
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inform them that it's a warning and not
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a got call for help and he's the one who
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have chimes and well it's not much point
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in going after him by the time you get
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out there they'll know whether it's a
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warning or not so you know no bother
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ok I really have to go watch this again
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because all of this i mean i'm not
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exactly good at picking up and sort of
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plot hints that this is a luchshe never
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note and then later Ripley won't let
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them back in which is 100-percent the
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correct thing to do slightly round and
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ok just taps on the little opener go on
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in uh-huh i think my favorite to my
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favorite early bit like this is when
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he's getting ready to take his position
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at the console to watch the away team go
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out he does this really weird little jog
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in play before he heads over there and
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it's it seems completely unnatural it's
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like he's got some sort of a glitch in
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his system and he's like somehow by
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moving is his bits around he's like
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breaking rust or something
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I think that's meant to be i mean i
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don't know but i I've always wanted
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thought that's meant to be a signal to
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us for later that there is something
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wrong with him that he is malfunctioning
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because you're right there's no it's not
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like he's about to go on any kind of
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physical activity there's no point to it
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whatsoever i think that's one of this is
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one of the things that this movie does
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very well to add this entire plot point
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about ash and about the reason that this
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is all happening and I this is one of
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those cases where I think a modern movie
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would completely mess this up because
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they would a modern movie would say well
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we need to have all these reversals of
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about how they all got set up and they
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need to find out that this was always
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set up in the beginning and it needs I I
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just feel like a modern movie would
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really do a bad job of this because it
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would make they would make it more
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integral to the plot in and and the fact
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is it's not necessary it to have this
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happen it's it's cool that it happens we
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don't need a reason why we have a movie
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where a spaceship lands on a planet and
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they get infected with an alien and
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kills them all but uh but it's a nice
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bit of additional seasoning to vote to
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the reason why it happens there was a
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conspiracy it you know these people were
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set up and then you get the reveal with
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ash which is such a great sci-fi moment
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in a horror movie that it's great I just
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I feel like it is the it is a perfect
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level of integration with the plot that
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a modern movie would screw up because
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they try to do too much with it
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this is why when I show this to this to
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people who already know about the chest
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burster seen I'm not too bothered by
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that because the ash reveal is so well
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so what just happened all surprises
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because that I mean he's spinning around
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and there's fluid shooting everywhere
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don't even have the time to really deal
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with that Parker Knox's head
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yeah an air tank was some kind it's a
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fire extinguisher or something yeah his
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head flies off and he's like doing the
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chicken with his head cut off things
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it's great they use the white fluid
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because red would look too much like
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blood but that white fluid is really
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disturbing shit is like shooting out of
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his mouth while he's trying to talk it's
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so great being blowed that's so great
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now I mean that and that's where that's
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that's where we won't talk about mixing
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genres i love that the science-fiction
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aspect it's layered back in on it's
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almost like we start with a base coat
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base coat of of sci-fi then we lay some
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horror on top of that and then here we
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get the sci-fi on top of that again it's
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like what the f what everybody still
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pretty horrible it is always horrible
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but it's like sci-fi horrible and that's
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you've got you've got the alien and then
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you've got you the sense that their
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cooperation is not super great and then
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you've got scary android malfunction and
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trying to kill you as well as that is
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it's top surface layers within the Clery
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bits i also love how when they reconnect
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his head even though he's inside look
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completely organic you know he sort of
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like some weird sci-fi organic surgeries
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and but they still basically use jump
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leads so yeah I'm gonna take me is
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inside look like mostly like tubes and
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boba for some reason I've never really
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quite understood its gross that's what
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the insides of people look like Robonaut
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one of the things that I think most most
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interesting about the the
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special-edition DVDs that have the
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deleted scenes as you really get a sense
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of how well directed and edited this
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film was and and and the ash reveal i
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because there was a an early scene i
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forget if it actually was a deleted
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scene if it was just something that got
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clipped out of the script but there's a
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scene somewhere early on where Ripley
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and Lambert are discussing whether
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either of them has slept with ash
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yeah because you know you're on a long
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space trip and basically it sounds like
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the the standard operating procedures
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you just sleep around with whoever's on
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the cruise to keep yourself from dying
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of boredom and they're both surprised
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but not entirely surprised because ash
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is kind of a weirdo that neither of them
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has actually slept with him and it's
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it's it would have been an interesting
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scene but at the same time I think it
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would have been too telegraphic
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right now what is becoming a terrific
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Lou and I love the fact that they clip
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that out because as much as I'd like to
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see that scene and I think it adds an
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interesting sort of wrinkle to the life
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in space nature of the film the fact
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that he took it out i think is is is
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very telling as to how how much care was
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taken to really make that reveal workout
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but the paranoia goes then through this
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whole franchise forward and I i love
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that aspect of it that that this is not
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this is not i just love it's not an
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accident that these people people were
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horribly killed a corporation decided to
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essentially not care if they got killed
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because they wanted to get this alien
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that's basically the story and and again
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it didn't need to happen that way but
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that's that's what it is and then we
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take for that sort of corporate
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malfeasance and people being not as
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important as prophets talk about them
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talking about money in the beginning in
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the end this is this is a another
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financial calculations that's being had
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that is exposing them to this work it's
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just an attempt and began use again is
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one of the most influential things in
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the movie like you know as someone who
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has worked on a lot of sci-fi and horror
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and sci-fi our properties let me tell
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you oh yeah oh my goodness with the
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corporation's looking for weaponized
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supernatural things and prepared to
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sacrifice the search party at every
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video game right quickly share price
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such a cliché right now it's amazing i
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think it's interesting that that whole
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storyline the whole ash thing was not
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part of the script that dan o'bannon and
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run shoes that put together but it was
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something that was suggested and then
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almost forced into the story by David
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Eyler and walter hill and I i don't
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think the an abandoned was particularly
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fond of it but it was something that
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they thought was a great idea and they
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said insisted on and I think it's
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frankly one of the best things in the
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movie yeah I think that was the right
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yeah he still cashing the checks yeah
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that's just it just puts another spin
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it's not it's another thing in the pot
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right it's just another thing that's
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happening like it's a it's not just that
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monster is killing people but it's like
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and somebody on the ship is setting it
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up so that that's okay because the
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bosses don't care but i love the fact
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that there aren't like a bunch of scenes
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like a of that makes it obvious that
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there's a mole on the crew it's just
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something that suddenly appear yeah
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ashes head flies off
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yeah that milk is applied everywhere
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like oh my god what's going on here
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it's when he tries to kill quickly that
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it's really right that's yes first real
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revelation is like I'm gonna sing but
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that leads immediately into his eyes and
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that's one long scene he tries to kill
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Ripley after we see the memo that says
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yeah that's just what we talked about
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how well written and directed and edited
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and shot this movie is it's also got a
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ridiculously incredible cast
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yep yeah this movie was made 37 years
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ago and every human actor in it had a
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except for Yaphet Kotto they're all
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still working in big properties today
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and avocados heard the right to take
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some time off if he wants like you can't
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just have Harry Dean Stanton and John
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Hurt and homer standing around this
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movie does yeah they're not that
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important well any major starts to go
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any waiver you know you have cool did so
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that just looks like let's talk about
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Sigourney Weaver she is so great as we
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have talked about her a lot partially
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because we've been listening victims the
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final girl she doesn't qualify
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yeah you got your head fake right where
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she's just part of the crew but of
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course she's the one who survives and
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and and dallas has taken fairly quickly
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and it is this and she ends up being the
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one who makes everything happen in this
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in this movie and ends up being I know
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it did make a star of her and you can
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watch it you're like yep
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yeah i mean totally makes sense that
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yeah of course ripley earned her
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survival it's not like she just happens
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to be the last one she was correct so
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awfully out a lot of times in horror
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movies it is just a random girl who
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survives and I really appreciate that
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Ripley was smart and just yet barely
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smart enough to survive and I really
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liked it there wasn't anything
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incredibly like grand in her and what
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she chooses do is just a loss of times
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she makes very small decisions end up
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being the correct ones and it's that
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accumulation of all of them together
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that I her to survive rather than having
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a grand revolution moment of oh and this
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is i will save myself and sat down the
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cat and back away
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come to this decision is here that
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there's a lovely piece of this direction
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as well because you really want is right
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for the last 15 minutes of the movie
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she's the only actor on screen out you
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know apart from the guy in the alien
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sushi carries the whole rest of the
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movie but there is a lovely misdirection
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before that where is just her partner
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and lumber left and she goes off by
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herself looking for the cats looking for
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Jones and Parker Lambert are paired up
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and up until this point the alien is
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only picked off alone people so you know
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you naturally expect that she is gonna
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be the one who buys it next
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so that of course you know she doesn't
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she's busy triggering the third cat
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scare in the movie does like a literal
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cats care less where mystery but i think
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that's a lovely reversal to sort of you
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know again just kind of play with the
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audience's expectations
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although it is a little depressing that
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she sends the two of them off to collect
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coolant which apparently they don't need
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because she takes none of it with her
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onto the shuttle right i wish i would
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have been able to see this not knowing i
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mean we already talked about the chest
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burster see which of course I a new but
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I also didn't I didn't ever see it
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without knowing that sigourney weaver
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was going to survive because you know
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she went on to make the second movie so
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I hadn't even put that together that the
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movie is playing with your expectations
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when she goes off by herself because my
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expectations were always just that she
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would survive so okay good job
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filmmakers a even better than I thought
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but one thing i really like is the
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double back that happens we're so the
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idea is ok there's only three of us left
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we're gonna self-destruct and we're
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going to get out in the shuttle and that
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doesn't go well but yeah but Ripley
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starts to self-destruct which is cool
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nice little bit of of uh of set design
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and and prop design there with the whole
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like it is intricate is so tactile right
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now physical of course in an essential
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part of the self-destruct system is to
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turn on fog machines and strobe lights
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the entire shipment she's she's not just
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flipping switches and you know she's
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actually moving things and pushing
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things and yeah I just pulling things
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out of the ground is wonderful as a lot
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of disco lights to turn on but then but
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then what was great is she finds out
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uh-oh you know here's the they're dead
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the alien is here i love that she goes
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back to try and turn off the
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self-destruct and you get the ticket so
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you don't just get the countdown to
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action you get the countdown to when
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it's a replicable that it's going to be
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destroyed and she fails she does she
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doesn't get it so at that point she's
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like I guess I gotta get my cat and get
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out of here i just i love that we get to
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countdowns there and we get the the like
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okay plan a and then planet doesn't work
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she's like all right I guess I'll go
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hope that didn't work either now I'll go
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i love how it's going to definitely
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pissed off she is at that moment too
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soon ashes mother's monitor and then the
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whole way back down the hall towards the
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cat she's screaming and shouting
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obscenities fantastic i love that she
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takes care of the cat during all this
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many lesser hero would have just left
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the poor thing to die but no no she news
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priorities cat lucky
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oh I love the cat throughout i love the
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cat III have this in my notes I went to
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mention we brought up the county few
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times i love the cat i love the first
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time we see the cat where it's like
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there's this bright orange cat on this
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spaceship it's like whoa what is this
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movie like like I I could accept aliens
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bursting out of people's just but people
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just kind of have a cat on the spaceship
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it's great and strange and then they use
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the cat for scares and then she saves
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the cat I love everything about having
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the cat and the cat is a metaphor for
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ripley's humanity
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the cat is Ripley's weakness and if she
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would have let its size you have a much
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better time in the next two movies and
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Liz she does leave it in harm's way if
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you watch the directors cut the
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director's cut has the scene where the
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alien finds the captain like bats
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suicide because it's not arrested which
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thank God they cut out because to me all
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these are free and where were you just
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see the alien creeping up on the cat and
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then it cuts away before you see it
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knock it away is I originally was sure
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that the cat had been implanted with an
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alien in some ride huh
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and that that was going to be that the
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false ending at the end is going to be
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the cat you know looking creepy or maybe
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having something burst out of its chest
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for the sequel alien to an attack
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exactly by the way where does the
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cabbage leaf initially is there a little
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well yes I hope so that that's that's
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headcanon must be in somebody's pod
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somebody gets hurt
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I think there's a little kitty sleep
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kitty but what's good everybody gets one
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ship cat that's that's to cut you know
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why it's there and it's to kill its to
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kill all the rats that are on that you
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can hope to be a contributor on it or
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it doesn't have to be a cap any animal
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i'm sure glad I don't know i think they
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have a rodent dog hairs on the Nostromo
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and they need a cat too just to kill
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them to kill the rats on this room space
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rats the ranch save the that's the other
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fantastic reversal in the movie when
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they first go hunting for the alien you
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think that they're still looking for
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something about the size of a rat
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yes I'm going all you've seen is the
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chest poster and they think that
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obviously that is the most groan worthy
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scene in the movie where there's like
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the little puppet that they dragged
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across the floor and strengthen the best
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set to ruin the whole chest / seem to be
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the very first time I saw it because
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that was also explain
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there's this ridiculous little thing
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running across the screen before it
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happened so then we could all laughed
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and I was like okay that's great
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so having seen in the theater in 1979 i
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can tell you that that scene was
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actually surprisingly effective her and
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it was specifically because everybody
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lost their stuff in alien popped out
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right and then words it's across the
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table in that ridiculous fashion its
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comic relief everybody interesting and
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it wasn't like that released english it
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was like oh my god that was hilarious
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and I assume the chest burster had to go
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eat five tons of food to grow into a
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giant monster yeah it really is probably
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the result did people at becoming the
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part of the first one it it just ate
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john hurt from the inside that was just
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an its boundary well the food stores ya
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na Jeong kzg9r okay yeah acid is for it
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so it can eat metal
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so something I'll never forget it i was
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eating ship wraps
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that's why Jones began after it they
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were actually hunting together initially
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I want to put out a word for that for
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that scene 2 because that's one of my
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very favorite scenes at six weeks with
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me from this movie is when the acid
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burns through the decks and they and
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they check how far down the acid goes
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and and they like put the like little
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little pride or pencil or whatever then
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and end it end it and it smokes on the
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tip because of this acid and it's like I
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love that that's so creepy like
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oh it's asking how bad is it well how
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far down did it burn all the way down
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it's a very bad i love that because they
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don't even do anything with it in this
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movie stressed no no just so you know
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you can't cut into it was made of asking
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what they do because that's that's why
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they can't remove the facehugger off of
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well yeah but that that's just one
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moment they could have found another
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reason for that but they don't expand on
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that until the next movie when it starts
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mattering a lot it does also serve that
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scene however to emphasize the size of
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the ship yes because you know like a
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doctor who episode they are using the
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same corridor again and again and again
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with different lighting i feel i should
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point out this moment that these
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corridors that we see here were in fact
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we use in Doctor Who story really
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of course leeward what what no i want to
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know this doctor who trivia now tool is
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pleased at peter davison story terminus
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Wow no well if it was a peter davison 1
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i've seen that I think the corridors
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look exactly like the line to space
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we've got that same way about the
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warning first waste space mountain the
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when you land in 1979 strangely enough
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that's what the future looks like to me
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is tomorrow land of 1979
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yeah yeah but always my favorite one is
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to entertain my favorite thing about
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that acid scene is when Dallas hands the
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pen that he borrowed from branded him
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and he's looking at this biz pen that
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smoking and drinking and cooking you
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breakfast my pen do good
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it looks like it looks just irritated
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you and he's already concerned about his
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bonus because pens are very expensive
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it's not like you can go to the pet shop
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he's in deep space but he's probably got
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one pin yeah how many pens they can't
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run out to the to the staples to buy
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more band you gotta get one of those
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fancy space pens
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Eric I think technically all pens or
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space pens when they're in space like
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how many become space money and all
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everything else becomes space whatever
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westerville space are they still append
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that's true who makes you think actually
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talking about space technology one of
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the things that always always bugged me
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about this was a a how easily they
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design the motion trackers like that
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really is just kind of hand wave him
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just skipped right over that
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but not only that but then somehow some
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point like in between Dallas is death
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and the rest of the movie the motion
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trackers suddenly get massively upgrade
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is from we're gonna buzz when something
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moves to go now we've got a grid with
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dr. that show position isn't it beeps
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and there's no explanation for that all
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wrapped up the tench and sure but like
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this why not start with them like that
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to start with you know it's right it's
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oh I can't think of any good headcanon
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to explain that that's annoying
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I all I can it's a day the mother linked
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all of the motion sensors on the ship
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together and they were tied into that at
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the end mother did it's like a wizard
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with a comb-over
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yeah my mother's not very helpful tho
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bad another we don't yet know how
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powerful that machine is because she's
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got so many lights and even though the
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monitor is about 13 inches across you
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still have to sit about 10 feet away
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from him according to use it it's just
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that powerful and you have to get in a
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chair that revolves rather than just
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stepping into a chair that's facing her
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to start with I'd never just about the
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better to appreciate the 360 degree
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yeah but it looks great so the last
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scene so she gets on the she goes back
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to does the double back she and a CAD
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get on the shuttle and this is where we
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get that second ending right the false
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ending the Nostromo has exploded
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she's gonna owe it's all over whoo that
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was a close one lose three times while
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unless it's simple it's got different
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parts that explode slightly different
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times I guess explode surprisingly
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loudly considering that it's in space
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people who you explode they just gave
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you can hear you scream but you can hear
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every other sound I don't normally
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object to that but if you make it their
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tagline I feel and the last explosion
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has like the 2001 slits counterfeit yes
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of course very strange
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we're done we're done she's safe it's
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all okay Freddie's dead i should i want
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to point out that the false ending here
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is unfortunately probably the one thing
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that I don't think works very well
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because there's no doubt as she's
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leisurely taking off her clothes and
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getting prepared for her long space
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journey that something else is yet see
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it yeah seems a weird
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meet in the middle and then she took off
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her clothes and went in a pod the end
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ok when I was 11 years old I totally
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bought it I got shocked
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yeah when I was when I first saw this I
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remember thinking that they seen the
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revelation of the alien was you know
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hiding in plain sight was the most
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awesome thing I had ever seen in my life
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just absolutely incredible blew my mind
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I loved it to bits
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now I watching I think how would there
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be a bit gap big enough for him to fit
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in but at the time at the time I loved
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well in such convenient proximity to all
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those five machines that can be used to
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collect yeah I love that scene but but
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just use point my feeling is something
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has to be it doesn't feel like the the
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end of a movie right it doesn't feel
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like what about what to fake me out you
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need to make it feel like the credits
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are going to roll at any moment and then
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they don't and that didn't happen here
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where it's like boy it seems like we're
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waiting around a long time I guess
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something else is gonna happen even in
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79 that the fake ending was a trope I
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mean Carrie was 1976 and that was done
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better than this and they could vary i
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think they feel like they could very
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easily have made this work a little
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better by having her sit down and do her
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final transmission that sheet that they
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say for the end of the movie have her
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start that you've got a reason for her
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to be still on the ship but rather than
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flashing panties
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yeah she's coming not that I'm
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complaining about that necessarily mean
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you know receiving was a lovely woman
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but a tease that's a real shame for me
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because that is kind of the only thing
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that really sort of spoils and dates the
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movie for me it's just the completely
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gratuitous underwear shots
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yeah especially in comparison to the
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style of the underwear that all the
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dudes are wearing very like just workmen
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like just white underwear and that i
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love the fact that many characters were
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all written so they could easily be
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gender swap and that comes across in the
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script very well all the characters just
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relate to each other as people and yet
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the costuming is so vastly different it
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doesn't seem like they would have that
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different of under clothes for for each
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person when it comes to the women there
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was a huge fabric shortage because it's
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the future and well as what we had to do
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Kane seems like the kind of guy who
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would be wearing boring underwear
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though I thought the one thing i do love
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about the fact that I mean there are
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many things i love but one thing I
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really love about the fact the Ripley is
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the one who survives is that she is the
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only member of the crew who tries to
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outsmart the alien rather than taking on
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toto like everyone well I mean lumber
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just tries to you know Escape and run
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but all of the men try and take it on
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there like I'm gonna kill that thing we
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can take it out let's flush out the
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airlock I'll kill it with a flamethrower
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whatever and of course all complete felt
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she's the only one who tries to out
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think it and think how can we how can we
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escape how can we get away from it
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rather than try to actually kill it yet
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is a little weird that she strips down
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there although there is sort of a point
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to it which is to make her even more
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I'm not sure it's necessary because
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she's already so underpowered compared
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to the alien they've already shown that
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even you somebody armed with a
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flamethrower is vulnerable so yeah but
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it's kind of like those thoughts you
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have sometimes when you go in and use
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the restroom and you're like this would
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be a really bad place for a serial
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killer to pop up there
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yeah cuz i think that all the time
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you've never had that that perfect i
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will now you don't go to the same rest
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stop slavery yeah this is
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stop slavery yeah this is
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so I don't watch / movies because that's
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what would happen every day
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yeah i would not have had a problem with
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her in her underwear if it would have
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been more like you know just a t-shirt
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or a wife beater top and some you know
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like boy shorts or something like that
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because I mean those little bikini
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underwear I worn underwear like that and
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that they can be comfortable enough but
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underneath you know work suits in
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spacesuits and all that kind of stuff I
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feel like probably not the most
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appropriate choice a one-piece jumpsuit
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probably made out of polyester yeah i
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mean honestly if she had been wearing
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something that was pretty much exactly
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the same as what John Hurt was wearing
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only just tailored for her slightly
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curvy or form i think it would have been
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every bit as sexy and would have made a
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personally I would have advised against
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the use of chuck taylors as work boots
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which we do see what we're doing isn't a
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mission for the style over substance
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maybe some steel toes i think it's
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interesting that Sigourney was cast as
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this character because you kind of want
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her to be vulnerable and she is
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vulnerable but security is pretty tall
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like even when she's hanging around with
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the cast you can tell she's taller than
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a lot of the guy
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yeah well Veronica Cartwright was
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originally going to play rippling yeah
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and she would fit that she's much more
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sort of physically more you know less
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imposing more vulnerable
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yeah I'm and I'm glasses she's no I'm
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glad I'm glad we forgot the exiting
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that's something that when i noticed
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when i noticed the past old woman and
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they're not afraid to show how tall that
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one actually is this a lot in gosh there
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nor Wales the librarians we've cast era
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beckham asian is is the leading that and
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she's very tall and they don't try to
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disguise the fact she's much taller than
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the men and i love that here as well
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because it's it's just it's just one of
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those things that television does all
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the time so you get this idea that women
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are small and therefore physically
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weaker his computer so when we get a
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woman who is actually tall and powerful
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you know that's that's an important
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symbol at least to me and I also think
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it would be a shame if Veronica
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Cartwright was not playing Lambert
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because she is magnificent i know she
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was not a fan of how I guess you
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characterize the character is
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emotionally weak but I think she
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is perfect because she's the only one of
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the crew who is acting in a realistic
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fashion to the situation there has been
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yeah just completely Wiggin out and
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she's magnificent added I mean
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she'sshe's she is not running out of her
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yeah and she's not wrong she has the
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most extreme reaction to the chest
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burster as well and that's one of the
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case she was one of the people who had
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no idea who didn't know it was going to
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be as bloody as all that right at one
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extreme they were gonna go to and so her
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reaction when she saw freaks and you
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know it is just like waving her hands
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around having hysterics that's genuine
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that's really is a kind of an unscripted
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reaction Cartwright's comments but
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they're all I think I'm very sympathetic
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that mean is it's a powerpoint and movie
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like this how many times is it at a
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horror movie where the person who is
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freaking out the most who's the one who
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is crying and shrieking with destruction
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forever if it's gonna be realistic
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how many times is that guy how many
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times a woman and it's overwhelmingly is
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gonna be a woman can I direct you to
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aliens where it is a guy yeah yeah I but
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him but you have to admit that's in the
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minority men generally speaking for the
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other hand I really i do love her
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performance and I love her character and
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yet as you said she's the one who's to
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me most identifiable for the for the
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audience because for me because that is
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how i would act in that situation so
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she's also you know she's the audience
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identify so it's it's one of those
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things where I can totally understand
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where their criticisms coming from was
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also i'm more on the fence about it
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because i really really like her right
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she's cheese if not put in this
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situation she also is a tough person I
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mean you can sort of sense it from her
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sort of smartass comments about no great
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we're gonna go on the planet and that
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it's not our system and she I know that
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under breath I know that and there's
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there's actually i think a deleted scene
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that I that shows up in the director's
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cut that I think they would have been
[TS]
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well served to keep in where when when
[TS]
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Ripley comes down to see how can is
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doing after they finally let him into
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the ship she comes up to Ripley and
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smacks your heart and in there ready to
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fight oh yeah yeah and it's it's it's a
[TS]
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really good fight scene i mean it's it's
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visceral it looks like she's genuinely
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pissed and you get a sense of how
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tougher character actually is from that
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so that's one of the few where I think
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maybe they would if they would have been
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well served to keep that in although
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there again I mean that saying has a bit
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of complexity because yes strong
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character but why she's slapping Ripley
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because Ripley didn't want to let came
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back inside the ship so it's kind of
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strength because of empathy and weakness
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so yeah again I'm sure you necessarily
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want to tie empathy and weakness
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together well but you know better if
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we're just talking sort of in terms of
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pure character stuff i just think it is
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good it makes for a more complex
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character which she is and it would be
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very easy for her to have just been the
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scream queen of the movie and I think
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yes she clearly does much more than that
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in the role her reaction to that empathy
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is not to you know Stu and didn't make a
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little side long comment she smacks
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Ripley heard its two components ready to
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it's so good this movie i just i love it
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so much so so many things about it I
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haven't even covered half of my notes
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but yeah well this is that this is your
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chance this is the we you know she's
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going out today so she yeah well i mean
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i can tell you what happens at the end
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which is she basically fires a grappling
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hook at the thing and and blows it out
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the door but oh no it's still let the
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end because it if it sticks in the like
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the doorway so then she has to turn on
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the engines and like Senate if it's the
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biggest flamethrower she's got left and
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that's the last moment that she she has
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with the alien and then she can just go
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with the cat into the stasis pod and
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that's the actual end of the movie and
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should reach the frontier in six weeks
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yeah yeah it's gonna be fine everyone
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good luck gonna be mine
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I like that they don't milk that second
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false ending it's not like oh no the
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alien is floating in space and it's
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gonna claw its way into the ship knows
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seconds later she couldn't have engines
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Mac I actually kind of wish that they
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didn't have I mean the voice-over at the
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end is good it's fine you know it's not
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sort of an offensive voiceover like
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later or something haha
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alright disagree with you but I almost
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wish that they didn't do it because
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that's the only dialogue for like the
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last 10 minutes of the movie and the
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movie starts with almost 10 minutes of
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complete lighting not silence but no
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it's almost seven minutes into the movie
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before anybody speaks at all like any
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human sounds at all and it's longer than
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that at the end of the movie or would be
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if she didn't you know do the Captain's
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Log thing so I was just kind of a shame
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that there isn't that symmetry I think
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what it is you know it is still a good
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speech I i can if you're looking at i
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need the end because I I need some I
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I you know be as subtle as you like all
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through the movie no animals you have to
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do that but give me an anvil issues
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conclusion ok slap their animal down
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there getting offensive closure that's
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so for for for me that was that was
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something cool actually liked Steve's
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idea of veggie that she says that she
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filed her report at the beginning and
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then discovers that the alien is there
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and then at the end after she killed the
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alien maybe she just press the send
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button like done let's go
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yeah I hadn't really thought about it
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but if you're thinking in terms of
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symmetry maybe you can forgive that
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false ending for being because it's just
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her being silent in the ship briefly she
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talks to the cat but otherwise she just
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cruising around so that is sort of
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similar to the beginning of the film
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again in that respect I i think the time
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where I ask anybody have anything we
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haven't covered the day that you'd like
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to mention those but there was one thing
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that I just wanted to say about the the
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seems we're talking about pacing earlier
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that seemed takes minutes minutes
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minutes of screen time leading up to you
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know when Brett's looking for the cat
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well it starts with like three of them
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looking for the catalyst and break off
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by himself and you get if you listen to
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I mean it's really well directed well
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staged it takes ages that are so many
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false you know sort of false beats where
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you think this is where it's gonna die
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but he doesn't you know and then you
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know this is really gonna die any
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doesn't and but if you listen to the
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sound design of that it's amazing they
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combine all these mechanical sounds more
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minutes it sounds like like air
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conditioning all sort of
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fans another minute so I've suddenly
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sounds like a heartbeat pounding and
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then it will become something else yes i
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want to mention that as well that's
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whenever there's a kill seen they're
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almost always in a section of the ship
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where they're close to what I assume is
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some piece of the engine equipment
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because there's that from that sounds
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for all the world like a like a
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heartbeat when it's muffled and it
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happens for I think every single kill
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seen there may be one or two that are
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different but I don't know who did the
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sound design but whoever did you know
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should have won an award as well because
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the eighties when it's extraordinary
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throughout the whole movie but that
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particular scene really stands out to me
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because there is no dialogue because it
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is just Brett walking through areas of
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the ship on his own going here kitty
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and you know and that's it and so all
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you've got and there's no music either
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it's all just sound design not music so
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you go back in and watch that again and
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really pay attention to what you're
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listening to and it really kind of plays
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with you and directs your emotions and
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the anticipation you have because you
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know that's what he's gonna cock it you
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know you know this is the moment he's
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gonna die and it really plays with your
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expectations while the sound team won
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the bafta for best sound 0 did they are
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excellent so there are no worries
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so what we Brits appreciated the crap
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yeah I was going to mention that because
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that is great and I was also going to
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mention the Goldsmith score which I
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no yeah it's it's it's interesting that
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he composed an entirely almost entirely
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separate scorps it was mostly more
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traditional almost 2001 ask classical
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music and Ridley Scott I guess chopped
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all the hell and replaced a bunch of it
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was stuff from previous scores that he
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done and and I think it's great i love
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the the sort of earrings particularly in
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the opening when the letters are
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appearing on the screen and it's just
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like that sort of feedback almost more
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than actual score
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yeah the whole opening sequences so
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iconic you know and it's to the point
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where it's one of those things that
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hasn't been copied and wasn't
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influential because it's so distinct and
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so iconic you can't do it without
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everybody going on it's alien
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it's so recognizable it's of England I
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love it it's so welcome i wanted to
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recommend a couple other movies to show
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where alien came
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from in 1974 John Carpenter directed his
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first feature length film dark star
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which is fun it's super super cheap and
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the important part is that it's
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basically three different stories and
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one of them is alien butt done worse cuz
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Ridley Scott is better visuals and the
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screenplay was by dan o'bannon and after
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dark star came out crazy visionary
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director alejandro jodorowsky whose name
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I'm probably not probably correctly was
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yeah he was going to make a movie of
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dune oh I wish the documentary thing to
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guess when him he was different
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yeah the boat the other movie i'm
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recommending is the movie yer oskis do
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now which explains the movie he would
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have made which was crazy it would have
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been 18 hours long and have people of
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space sperm and all sorts of things i
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recommend Jodorowsky's holy mountain if
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you want an idea of what it might have
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looked like yeah I like your house key
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much more after watching your house keys
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dude because he seems so normal in it
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and after just watching movies i thought
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this is a crazy man crazy and have
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something relatively friends yeah he's
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quite nice is all it's just like I don't
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want to watch your movie
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I'm not terrified and here you have you
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read any of these graphic novels that he
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is a crazy crazy man yeah but for doing
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he put together a team that was dan
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o'bannon to do the special effects and
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for visual concepts Mobius and HR geeker
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and when his movie fell apart some of
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them went off and kind of coalesced
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towards alien and that's why you have a
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demo band story and HR giger designs
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some of which had been originally made
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for doing if you are familiar with alien
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and dude you may wonder where those
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images would have showed up the answer
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I'm really glad that they went with
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Geiger rather than Mobius though because
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i love Mobius you know I love him as an
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and as a graphic novelist but an alien
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designed by Mobius rather than Geiger
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would have been so so different and i'm
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just not sure it would have had the same
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impact that this movie did I feel like
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you needed someone crazy like your house
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key to look at gieger and say you should
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work on movies and then get him far
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enough into the system so that Ridley
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Scott could say yeah we can work on that
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you're gonna have to redo a lot of these
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to make them less explicit including the
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painting that actually influence the
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alien design itself which is just ease
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the alien you look at it and its light
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will okay if we just remove the giant
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penis he sees gonna know there's a whole
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lot of elements of violation in this
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obviously the implantation by the embryo
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there's the very phallic scene of ash
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trying to choke Ripley other newspaper
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which happens right in front of a bunch
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of nudie pics that are pasted to the
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wall true i mean they aren't they are
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really shy about the sexual i think the
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magazine himself that he rolls up might
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be a nudie mag probably quite like we
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didn't really talk about it but gers
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design is such an essential part of the
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whole movie you can't get bigger without
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getting penis yes but not right but you
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would have this was saying you wouldn't
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have alien I don't think without Tigers
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designs because I just don't think
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anybody I don't think any other design
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would have been so radical lighting and
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it's hard to think now be nice sometime
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this was a radical design at all
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a4a sci-fi alien creature and I don't
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think any other conceptual artist
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working at that time would have come up
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with something quite so innovative
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unusual and simultaneously horrifying
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and disturbing but yeah it's chris stuff
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i want to mention you mentioned uh the
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general Smith score and I would just
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mention this is the same year that he
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did the Star Trek the motion picture
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score that's right wow there's a lot
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going on there he also scored outland
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which I wanted to mention because it's
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got a similar vibe to it it's high noon
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based on yeah but that's a that's pure
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hi our behinds directed and sean
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connery's and that it literally is high
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noon except on Saturn the moons of
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Saturn it's it's a mining colony yeah
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it's it's a it's really good and weird
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but it has a similar vibe to this except
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of course they're the the monsters are
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us because that's what spoilers for
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outland chasing monsters are us in this
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to that's the whole reason they get sent
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down to that planet suppose that's true
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you're right Steve Martin corporate
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masters yeah a couple of quick notes i
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wanted to get too i love the fact that
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what they're flying in is a commercial
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towing vehicle because it really adds to
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the whole this is a really unglamorous
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kinds of people aspect of things
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yeah well in the design of it again is
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so it's like it's not streamlined in any
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notes utilitarian sort of yeah on
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aerodynamic industrial bulky and
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workmanlike there's no there's no
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paucity in this movie I think that's
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what separates it from a lot of sci-fi
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the game before is there's no campus or
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pomposity about it i really like the
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scene where there's there's there's a
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setup scene where Parker and bread or
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down in the bowels of the ship and
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they're complaining about their bonuses
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and they keep saying why do they never
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come down here and then later when
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Ripley decided she's going to come down
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to expect the damage from inspect the
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damage from the landing this hey what
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the hell is she coming down here for her
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yep don't worry right you'll get
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whatever is going to that's right Amen
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he does i love the set design on the
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maintenance areas that Brett goes
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through my talked about that already but
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i like the fact that they have indoor
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rain and for no apparent reason she's
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from the cooling systems yeah it's it's
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just it's condensation but he takes he
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takes a moment to take off his hat and
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enjoy the indoor range before he sets
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off to find the cat she's probably his
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own recycled sweat Ridley Scott early on
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said I like fog and rain we're gonna put
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it everywhere and I like chains banging
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into each other we need some chains
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hanging from the ceiling for some reason
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i love the lighting design in Dallas's
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traipsing through the ducts seen how
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he's just got this tiny little cone of
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light that follows him around and the
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way it reflects off of the the doors
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that sort of others in Ryan I viruses
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you have a fantastic
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and.and to add to that the lighting in
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the scene where the alien does catch up
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to him and it looks like he's reaching
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for him to give them a real big hug but
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it speaks to what I think was the genius
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of this which is a they wanted to reveal
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as little of the alien as possible
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Intel they absolutely had to show more
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of it alright well this has been has
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been good good good i'm glad we got to
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talk about this movie i hope everybody
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got through without being too scared my
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daughter didn't she got too scared
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oh but it's a classic will have to come
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back and talk about that aliens movie
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someday it's a very different movie on
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all before that happens therefore I
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don't know I don't know what it was
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seven years between the movies yeah so
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you go i'm not going to promise an
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episode number for the aliens because
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then somebody will notice and then go
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get back to me by the way i'm going to
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choose the Siberian Husky him dog
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drafted anyway k-9s on camera for me
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theist to is coming maybe you can con me
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into going and seeing that bike went
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away the rest of the alien will be
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there's ever an alien 3 podcast i just
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want to say I'm totally up for that
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because i know it will be very popular
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but Charles dances of that maybe there's
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a doggy can draw this is the 30th
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anniversary of aliens maybe we should
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rush into it right away anyway I'm gonna
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leave that as a cliffhanger and of
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course my guess is that 40 so check that
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out list miles thank you for being here
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thank you for having me Steve let's
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we had here in 10 minutes Jason we won't
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need no rocket to fly through space
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Monty and space no one can hear you
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scream that I'm sorry I saw a picture of
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a cat on the internal mention of it
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Erica and time thank you for being here
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thank you for having me you guys you are
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all my lucky stars
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oh and Anthony Justin I hope it was a
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good experience for you it and maybe
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worth the wait no don't worry Jason you
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will get whatever is coming back and
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with that I'm gonna file my log and
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drift into hopefully a transit sector
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sometime in the next few
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but we'll see but if you receive this
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message to our position our coordinates
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and hopefully your ears again next time
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