Cortex 1: I Don't Really Like Work


00:00:00   you're going to be really natural right now that's what you're going to do a [TS]

00:00:03   natural ok go for it so I guess we should probably tell people who I am I [TS]

00:00:10   think everybody knows who you are when they hear this British voice I should [TS]

00:00:14   probably explain a little bit about me [TS]

00:00:17   ok that sounds good I am Mike Hurley and I am the co-founder of real FM podcast a [TS]

00:00:22   full time I've been podcasting for like five years and I've been full-time [TS]

00:00:27   forecasting for maybe like six months and we're going to talk a little bit [TS]

00:00:30   more about kind of where I came from where you came from work wise a little [TS]

00:00:36   bit later on but I just wanted people to know who I am as we starters and of [TS]

00:00:41   course I have the pleasure of being joined on cortex every week by mister [TS]

00:00:46   CGP grey although I've only agreed to 10 episodes though so far yes make that [TS]

00:00:52   very clear you have you have successfully pestered me into doing this [TS]

00:00:56   you have been very convincing but I have agreed to do ten episodes of this [TS]

00:01:00   podcast with you I basically force third-grade coffee and got him to agree [TS]

00:01:06   to doing this with me yes yes you were you were very consistent over several [TS]

00:01:12   lunches together of getting to me getting me to do this with you here we [TS]

00:01:18   are because I mean I am a big fan of your work especially of how internet [TS]

00:01:23   that is my favorite thing I love you and Brady every week but there's the one [TS]

00:01:27   thing that when I listen to her internet thought I would love to hear more of and [TS]

00:01:31   that's what I'm trained that's what the cortex in her be where initially I want [TS]

00:01:36   to talk about the way the work because every now and then you drop a little [TS]

00:01:42   interesting tidbit of information about the way that you work and I am kind of [TS]

00:01:49   fascinated to understand a little bit more about that and the decisions that [TS]

00:01:55   you make a father up and that's what this is going to be ok so I have many [TS]

00:02:01   I've been keeping a big long list of things i would like to tease something [TS]

00:02:08   every every time I told somebody about the show [TS]

00:02:10   I give them one piece of information as to why I think cortex is going to be [TS]

00:02:14   interesting because of a recent lunch that we had I found out that great put [TS]

00:02:20   sleep on his calendar you seem transfixed by this this this really [TS]

00:02:24   struck you everybody that I i tell about this when I am when I'm talking to [TS]

00:02:29   people about why I think this show is going to be also is exactly this thing I [TS]

00:02:35   told them and they all react the way I reacted calmly I don't understand it [TS]

00:02:41   seems very logical to me but we will save this comes hella tail with this [TS]

00:02:44   conversation 'cause will lose the entire show to this will put that to the side [TS]

00:02:49   for now that will be on the calendar episode but that this is the type of [TS]

00:02:52   thing that I want to the I hope we will come across on cortex and as we try and [TS]

00:02:57   understand a little bit more about the inner workings of your robotic mind and [TS]

00:03:02   the way that the gears turn we can see how this goes [TS]

00:03:05   although I am aware that I seem to have developed a bit of a reputation for [TS]

00:03:10   being some kind of productive robots and one of the reasons why I have only [TS]

00:03:17   agreed to 10 episodes is I don't really think that there's that much to talk [TS]

00:03:21   about because even though I have this reputation I don't I don't actually [TS]

00:03:27   really like work very much like working and I'm constantly trying to think of [TS]

00:03:33   ways to minimize work or to sort of maximize the output that I can get from [TS]

00:03:39   the minimum amount of input so I'm not a huge fan of work so I'm not sure there's [TS]

00:03:46   going to actually be allowed to talk about BC that's that's the thing for me [TS]

00:03:50   that is why we're in the interesting stuff lies because you are a person who [TS]

00:03:55   is successful what you do and you have a good output of work and your work that [TS]

00:04:01   you put out of high quality and you seem to be quite efficient about the way that [TS]

00:04:05   you do it simply because he wanted to do too much of it so I think there is there [TS]

00:04:10   is something really interesting [TS]

00:04:11   not a workaholic right now instance the humor found interesting ways to get [TS]

00:04:18   maximum output with minimum input perhaps we'll find out it works for me [TS]

00:04:24   anyway many people wish I i mean more videos but this is this is the way I [TS]

00:04:29   work that's actually a topic I am fully so you know you have agreed to 10 but I [TS]

00:04:34   have like 20 topic so I see we'll see how we go to press your luck Michael I'm [TS]

00:04:42   planning listen to 2020 get away from it was a big deal for me to put something [TS]

00:04:47   weekly on my schedule this is a carved out a lot of time for this I don't know [TS]

00:04:51   about this already trying to reserve decades ahead this like a podcast Trojan [TS]

00:04:57   horse ok that's how this works we'll see so everybody knows that listens to be [TS]

00:05:04   used to be a teacher is that there is that the gondola primary part of your [TS]

00:05:09   background your working background yes before I started making videos on on [TS]

00:05:15   YouTube being a teacher here in the UK was really my only job as a as a [TS]

00:05:22   full-grown adults I have no long list of interesting careers are basically went [TS]

00:05:28   to school and then after university a dream to be a teacher and became a [TS]

00:05:34   teacher for a number of years and then eventually left that to YouTube is the [TS]

00:05:37   short version of that story there are other things that happened in between [TS]

00:05:39   there but that's the gist of it why did you want to be a teacher you gonna start [TS]

00:05:43   out making me look bad you know the answer to this [TS]

00:05:47   ok so we have a hard time convincing people that this is actually my answer [TS]

00:05:53   but I became a teacher because of the time off that was really the main thing [TS]

00:06:02   that drew me to that career and wild while that can can come office hunting [TS]

00:06:12   very lazy the reason that it it attracted me is that I wanted to be able [TS]

00:06:17   to have [TS]

00:06:18   have big chunks of time to be able to work on my own side projects I'm always [TS]

00:06:25   a person who's had side projects in my life even even now that my side projects [TS]

00:06:29   have become I mean living I still have other side projects this is just a [TS]

00:06:33   fundamental part of my personality and really when you leave University and you [TS]

00:06:38   are surveying the potential jobs that are available time off from those jobs [TS]

00:06:45   is a very very rare and very precious resource you know the the standard in [TS]

00:06:52   America for people I know who friends of mine you are living there is two weeks [TS]

00:06:57   off a year and i know i know i dont think this is hyperbole when I say that [TS]

00:07:05   thats barbaric for a few modern Western society it's it's extra barbaric when [TS]

00:07:11   you consider that most Americans then have to take their two weeks off and [TS]

00:07:16   spend most of that time with their families at at Thanksgiving or Christmas [TS]

00:07:22   which usually not times most people think of as very relaxed very low key [TS]

00:07:29   times so in america is the standard is is two weeks and here in the UK usually [TS]

00:07:35   about I think four weeks as the legally required minimum I don't you use to work [TS]

00:07:40   like a office job would you get four weeks that right I think I started off [TS]

00:07:45   in like 23 days over my eight years gone up to 28 wow I know that loyalty I was [TS]

00:07:56   always the rewarded employee they were able to not keep you on with those are [TS]

00:08:04   words now but yes I will when I was looking at a what am I going to do with [TS]

00:08:10   with my adult working life teaching has this unique aspect that there there are [TS]

00:08:16   very few jobs that can give you big chunks of time off so that it that [TS]

00:08:23   really is one of the main reasons why I went into teaching i mean there are [TS]

00:08:26   other contributing factors the reasons why that was easier for me than other [TS]

00:08:29   things [TS]

00:08:30   having a degree in physics also meant that I could pretty much guarantee that [TS]

00:08:34   I could get a job at a good school instead of having to start my way at the [TS]

00:08:39   bottom of the chain and hopefully work my way into a good school over a number [TS]

00:08:42   of years I could just I could just walk into a very nice private school as it [TS]

00:08:46   totally brand new teacher so those things helped and those things [TS]

00:08:50   contributed to my decision but it really was the time off and I wanted to indeed [TS]

00:08:55   use those big chunks of time on my side projects one of which obviously [TS]

00:08:59   eventually paid off which is the YouTube videos I find it interesting that you [TS]

00:09:04   like you start off the conversation with it being like a thing [TS]

00:09:09   Europe maybe a little bit embarrassed say because it people may judge you [TS]

00:09:13   because you say you wanted time off but it's not like you wanted that time off [TS]

00:09:18   to sit on a beach lake shore there was some of that but you were looking at it [TS]

00:09:22   primarily as a way to do other things to be productive in other areas I think [TS]

00:09:27   that that is a very small decision and this is exactly the type of thing right [TS]

00:09:34   for why I think it's interesting to talk to you about these things because that [TS]

00:09:39   was a very calculated decision made in so much that you look eat you didn't [TS]

00:09:45   want to assume you always wanted to work for yourself right as I will make that [TS]

00:09:49   assumption yes that's that's something I have been aware of [TS]

00:09:53   ever since I can remember thinking my own thoughts is that if I can become [TS]

00:09:58   self-employed in some manner that is something I would I would like to do and [TS]

00:10:02   I grew up seeing my father he's self-employed and seeing how he was in [TS]

00:10:08   control of his own life in in the way that you can only be if you're [TS]

00:10:12   self-employed so that was always there was always a goal that I had so because [TS]

00:10:17   of that when you know it's it's difficult to just go from university to [TS]

00:10:21   self-employment like that is a hard thing to do especially with the course [TS]

00:10:24   that you took like to the Rudy to the degree that I don't really know if you [TS]

00:10:28   can just like right now [TS]

00:10:31   really that's not a thing I don't think there are very many freelancing for the [TS]

00:10:36   kids go to the yellow pages of something like this [TS]

00:10:41   know that happened made a decision in that you do you look for a job working [TS]

00:10:47   for the man that gave you the most amount of time to build your side [TS]

00:10:51   business to take you to be self-employed that that decision is what is the kind [TS]

00:10:56   of thing that I find to be really interesting about the way that you you [TS]

00:11:00   put things out and don't get me wrong there there were some summers were spent [TS]

00:11:03   basically on a beach vacations as well yeah but yes I wanted the time off to do [TS]

00:11:09   things on the side to me like I have been podcasting for five years as I [TS]

00:11:13   mentioned I have been studied relay with my co-founder Steve inaccurate in August [TS]

00:11:19   of 2000 and 14 having done been around but been like that bunch of different [TS]

00:11:26   places doing podcast over the years but I had been working in finance I was [TS]

00:11:32   working in retail banking for like six years and then I moved into the [TS]

00:11:36   marketing department I was there for about two years so I worked the man from [TS]

00:11:40   the age of 18 I didn't go to university I took a gap year to get a job which [TS]

00:11:47   turned eight years the gap almost decade so maybe maybe one day I'll go to [TS]

00:11:52   university announced on that gap year so who knows what happened but I'd I over [TS]

00:11:57   that time decided I also had work people you'd enjoy your marketing position in [TS]

00:12:02   finance not really I don't like big corporations gray that is not a thing [TS]

00:12:10   that I enjoy I don't like talking about bringing people or circling back to [TS]

00:12:15   people it's just not a thing that i'm too interested in the less than talking [TS]

00:12:21   about your devices so I can on a star at the base and so your computer devices [TS]

00:12:28   your computing things you want to talk hardware and this is what we gonna stop [TS]

00:12:34   but even if you if you want to talk hardware and you won't talk computers do [TS]

00:12:38   gonna start to start a religious war here over over particular computers and [TS]

00:12:42   things that they could the good way to lose have to listen to straightaway [TS]

00:12:45   especially with some of the questions and then asked you in a minute ago great [TS]

00:12:48   great which is gonna come out on massive like straight straight out the door [TS]

00:12:54   after minute 12 what computer do you use I am talking to you right now on my [TS]

00:13:01   computer which is a 27 inch iMac what I would say is that this is the computer [TS]

00:13:07   that I have been waiting a very long time for because I bought this solely [TS]

00:13:15   because of the retina scream I was just waiting for Apple to come out with a [TS]

00:13:19   large Retina screen and as soon as they did at like yes I will take that [TS]

00:13:24   computer and that was you haven't heard how much it is and I said I don't care [TS]

00:13:27   I've been waiting for this just give it to me and I'll go sign the sign this [TS]

00:13:33   document in your own blood and I fine fine fine whatever I just need a big [TS]

00:13:37   Retina screen to work on it may mean computer although it may not be my main [TS]

00:13:42   computing device but I am I am very happy with it and the Retina screen [TS]

00:13:46   makes a huge difference to me and that's why do my podcasting from and all the [TS]

00:13:51   animating from you have any other Macs while she was gonna make people angry [TS]

00:13:57   there's a lot of Apple gear in my house yet as a lot of applicator yeah I mean [TS]

00:14:02   look we just have to accept that that's where this conversation is going I [TS]

00:14:07   apologize to everyone for taking trade on the spot in the room behind me I have [TS]

00:14:12   a little laptop that I sometimes use for doing work around the house because a 27 [TS]

00:14:16   inch iMac doesn't doesn't translate well to doing stuff on the couch if you need [TS]

00:14:20   to do computer work they have a little very old MacBook Air from years and [TS]

00:14:26   years ago and then I also have a nearby here I have a coworking office space [TS]

00:14:32   that I go to sometimes and I have another laptop in there like redundant [TS]

00:14:39   here so I have basically it an office computer in an actual office that I use [TS]

00:14:44   as well and with your [TS]

00:14:47   with your iMac what what keyboard and mouse to use the keyboard now everyone [TS]

00:14:54   will know there goes that's a sound when Brady's talking when my my podcasting [TS]

00:15:02   co-host is talking very often you can hear me looking up stuff in the [TS]

00:15:06   background when he saying things and trying to find facts to contradict him [TS]

00:15:11   or just you know watching YouTube videos or something I look forward to hearing [TS]

00:15:14   that so much but yes I I bought this keyboard from company called WASD which [TS]

00:15:23   makes old-fashioned mechanical keyboards which I was very very excited to find [TS]

00:15:28   when someone mentioned it to me on Twitter or something but yes it is very [TS]

00:15:33   heavy it is very solid it is not remotely portable you could be the man [TS]

00:15:38   to death with it and I absolutely love it and it has been customized so that it [TS]

00:15:44   uses the Dvorak keyboard layout which is how I actually type all day that is my [TS]

00:15:49   that my keyboard again the dvorak think that's a whole I have a whole show [TS]

00:15:54   planned around that is that is like something I don't even nearly begin to [TS]

00:16:01   understand like using a different people but again we will come to that day what [TS]

00:16:06   Mounties anything specific that you just go about Apple mouth I had this strange [TS]

00:16:11   setup I don't actually have a mouse on my desk what I have in front of me are [TS]

00:16:15   two different pointing devices the thing that I used mainly is that I have a [TS]

00:16:22   Wacom pen tablets that use name D percent of the time for for drawing [TS]

00:16:29   stuff and even if I'm not animating if I'm just using the computer just [TS]

00:16:34   browsing the web or whatever I still use the pen tablet almost all the time I had [TS]

00:16:39   no idea that you something similar I guess not I use when I'm editing I use [TS]

00:16:46   magic trackpad in one hand and then [TS]

00:16:50   than a mouse in the other so I used to track pad for like panning and zooming [TS]

00:16:55   in the mouse like precision editing of audio died I had no idea you had had a [TS]

00:17:02   pent-up [TS]

00:17:03   guess it kinda makes sense because you animate but that is that's really [TS]

00:17:07   interesting to me and even more interesting that used to browse the web [TS]

00:17:11   yeah I use it for everything I am I i dont really use mice very much at all so [TS]

00:17:18   I do really like this pen tablet that I have that's that is on the right hand [TS]

00:17:22   side of my keyboard and then on the left hand side of my keyboard I have like you [TS]

00:17:25   do have a magic trackpad and I think for the same reason that I find it very [TS]

00:17:31   helpful when doing animations are doing podcast sometimes to have that space to [TS]

00:17:36   do [TS]

00:17:37   gestures or secondary task secondary pointing tasks little bit hard to [TS]

00:17:42   explain how I use it but I find it useful enough that I'm in the weird [TS]

00:17:47   situation sometimes it having the the the pen in one hand and my hand on the [TS]

00:17:52   Magic Trackpad one on each and it looks very strange but I find it can be quite [TS]

00:17:57   useful sometimes that that's that's kind of my desk set up right here that's why [TS]

00:18:04   I've so what do you use every day well like I have an iPhone six-plus which is [TS]

00:18:14   entirely also because of your badgering originally got an iPhone 6 and other [TS]

00:18:22   podcast I complained quite mightily and for a very long time about how much I [TS]

00:18:26   did not like the iPhone 6 and over are many lunches together you eventually [TS]

00:18:31   convinced me to try out these six plus which I have done and now my main phone [TS]

00:18:37   is the iPhone six-plus and I'm a big fan of it I like it a lot better than I ever [TS]

00:18:42   liked the six and it is a strange time to talk about my gear because I i'm [TS]

00:18:49   finding I'm in a minute period of transition now I'm aware that I'm using [TS]

00:18:54   the phone very differently than I use my old phone before and then that's [TS]

00:18:58   affecting how I use their knock-on effects from using the phone more to [TS]

00:19:02   other devices [TS]

00:19:03   and I also have the Apple watch now which is affecting a little bit how I [TS]

00:19:07   work so it feels like things are in a period of flux right now but yes i phone [TS]

00:19:12   surpluses my current phone and I guess the fun is AT&T iPad uses regular and [TS]

00:19:18   iPad user yeah I am I am a big iPad he was there and I would go so far as to [TS]

00:19:25   say that my iPad is my primary computing device that most of my work for the [TS]

00:19:35   videos is actually not animating or doing the audio it's mostly [TS]

00:19:39   scriptwriting just writing what I'm going to say and then rewriting it and [TS]

00:19:45   rewriting it and rewriting it forever and ever so it's a lot of typing and for [TS]

00:19:50   some reason I find the iPad is is the best advice for me to do that on to do [TS]

00:19:55   lots and lots of it it's on it's it's very comfortable to have like a little [TS]

00:20:01   external keyboard that I use of that I can take around London and worked from [TS]

00:20:04   various cafes and things and in addition if I'm doing research I also spend a lot [TS]

00:20:10   of time reading and copying pasting sentences in making notes on stuff and I [TS]

00:20:15   really like doing that on the iPad as well so in terms of hours spent on a [TS]

00:20:21   device the iPad is is almost certainly the big leader in that it's it's where I [TS]

00:20:26   have spent most of my time but I am really aware that with the iPhone [TS]

00:20:30   six-plus much to my surprise the iPhone is is very much eating into my iPad time [TS]

00:20:38   which I would not have guessed I would never have thought that would be the [TS]

00:20:40   case but it's definitely happening some sort of three figuring how amusing some [TS]

00:20:45   of my devices and do a full sized iPad Mini have many iPads I almost don't want [TS]

00:20:57   to say how many iPads I have in use iPads oh yeah you cite any I want to you [TS]

00:21:04   Antonio me is it more than five well if every time I it depends on what you mean [TS]

00:21:11   by in use [TS]

00:21:12   ok so here's the here's the thing let's let's back up a minute [TS]

00:21:16   origin story with iPads after the iPad came out I remember being hugely [TS]

00:21:22   disappointed because like other people I thought oh I didn't want a giant iPhone [TS]

00:21:27   I want I want OSX West End sorry I can never I read it in my brain [TS]

00:21:32   Oosten many people I know the people gonna be mad at you for saying you like [TS]

00:21:38   Apple [TS]

00:21:39   the people that like Apple gonna be more mad you said acts then then Android or [TS]

00:21:44   Windows users as it has a slight side note here I often find myself in [TS]

00:21:49   situations where I end up with both groups mad at me on a particular topic [TS]

00:21:54   this is this is a common phenomenon in my life is in the middle of two groups [TS]

00:22:02   both of which are angry with me over something so that's what I've just done [TS]

00:22:05   here but I was disappointed with the iPad I wanted a desktop computing [TS]

00:22:09   experience on a tablet and I thought all the stupid iPad it's gets totally [TS]

00:22:13   useless for me I'm never gonna I'm never going to have any interest in it but my [TS]

00:22:17   wife ended up getting one and overtime I thought that looks useful this thing [TS]

00:22:23   that she's doing over here and I started stealing more and more of her iPad time [TS]

00:22:28   away from her and eventually started experimenting with writing on it with an [TS]

00:22:32   external keyboard which I quite liked and then my my wife is getting annoyed [TS]

00:22:36   that her iPad was always missing that it was it was in you know it was in my [TS]

00:22:40   control but when I eventually saw the iPad 3 with once again the Retina screen [TS]

00:22:45   as soon as I saw it I thought man I have to have this this thing is just great [TS]

00:22:50   that was the first real sized Retina screen had ever seen and it was a [TS]

00:22:55   similar thing like how much Apple how much they just need this right now and [TS]

00:23:01   so since then because the iPad is my main computing devices the thing that I [TS]

00:23:08   spend most of my time on I have gotten each generation of the iPad [TS]

00:23:13   had since the three so it's the 32 for the air and the air to have that right [TS]

00:23:20   and then I also did get a mini so that makes it technically there are five [TS]

00:23:26   iPads in my house that are mine but they all do have uses I swear they really do [TS]

00:23:31   use them all ok so we gonna have to really run through the Sinai yeah ok [TS]

00:23:36   thanks yourself into a corner now gray ok so the iPad 3 is in is in retirement [TS]

00:23:43   is the way I like to think about it the iPad 3 sits in my bedroom and they can [TS]

00:23:50   only do one thing because it's very old and it only has it has limited memory [TS]

00:23:54   like an old iPod through his retirement is that it functions as a white noise [TS]

00:24:02   machine for when i sleep because ok I I have to say it still exists in my ears I [TS]

00:24:10   can't sleep in a silent room so I need something that makes noise like a [TS]

00:24:14   ringing noise as long as I have been alive I have always had a ringing sound [TS]

00:24:20   years it seems very normal to me but I kind of forget that other people don't [TS]

00:24:25   have this as well but but it means that I can't sleep in a perfectly quiet room [TS]

00:24:32   which is one of the few times I really notice it but it's there so I have to [TS]

00:24:34   have something making noise that's my iPad 3 does what kind type type of white [TS]

00:24:39   noise you play out interest there is a website that I highly recommend for [TS]

00:24:44   anybody else who has this called white noise mp3 use.com and as far as I can [TS]

00:24:51   tell it's it's run by just one woman who goes around and requires various [TS]

00:24:57   soundscapes now over my whole life I have listened to a lot of different [TS]

00:25:02   kinds of white noise but she does a very very good job with the recordings there [TS]

00:25:07   very long she picks interesting soundscapes so if you have if you have [TS]

00:25:14   this problem I highly recommend her website to go buy some of those mp3's [TS]

00:25:18   and the one that I sleep with most of the time is actually it's a recording [TS]

00:25:23   from the interior [TS]

00:25:24   of passenger airplane so it's that jet cabin sound is the one that I play most [TS]

00:25:30   of the time but I use a number of her mp3's for various other other things [TS]

00:25:35   sometimes sometimes when I'm just at home if it is bothering me I have [TS]

00:25:39   thunder scape have a under sound the storm that I'll play just the glow in [TS]

00:25:45   the background just there's a little bit of noise but it's not distracting so I [TS]

00:25:49   use a number of mp3's so we've established the iPad 3 does I forgot [TS]

00:25:56   that we were doing okay now I have to explain some other ones ok so let me [TS]

00:26:01   work backwards then the iPad 4 lives in my office so like to have redundant [TS]

00:26:07   equipment and other places so the iPad 4 lives with my macbook in the coworking [TS]

00:26:13   space yes in the coworking space for the iPad air and the iPad air to fit into [TS]

00:26:18   this crazy system that I know you are interested in which I call my redundant [TS]

00:26:23   bags system where I have two different backpacks that I use based on what I'm [TS]

00:26:29   doing on a particular day again I like to have everything just set and ready to [TS]

00:26:33   go so each of those iPads leaves in like kinda permanently in a backpack so that [TS]

00:26:39   in the morning depending on what state is I can grab one or the other and I'm [TS]

00:26:42   just also charged up overnight and so they're just ready and the iPad Mini is [TS]

00:26:47   probably one of my least favorite but it has ended up as a as a dedicated e-book [TS]

00:26:53   reader so I have it set up that it's very it's always using the low-light [TS]

00:26:58   settings and it's always said on dark and it has a very dark background so [TS]

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00:29:50   so the question that you'd read why Apple but why Apple devices the diesel a [TS]

00:29:56   specific choice did nothing is is getting outside of the Apple ecosystem [TS]

00:30:00   for you why do you personally think that Apple devices are right for you [TS]

00:30:07   not why they should be right for the rest of the world I wanna make that very [TS]

00:30:10   clear that I will speak the gray and that he is purely saying why he [TS]

00:30:14   personally CGP grey likes Apple devices [TS]

00:30:17   implicit in this question is people assume that you are are constantly [TS]

00:30:22   scanning the horizon and comparing all other options in every possible way [TS]

00:30:28   every day to make sure using the thing that is perfect for you and and that and [TS]

00:30:33   that's not what I do so I get into discussions with people sometimes where [TS]

00:30:36   they say oh you know have you have you tried windows lately I haven't used [TS]

00:30:40   windows in whatever it is in size since I quit teaching three years four years I [TS]

00:30:45   don't know exactly what you have and use Windows today it's completely different [TS]

00:30:49   as always these moving the goalposts yeah I looked at an Android phone [TS]

00:30:53   year ago and I didn't like it out but you didn't look at an Android phone [TS]

00:30:56   today I looked at Android phone last week and they know it totally different [TS]

00:31:00   today it's it's it's much better you can never you can never have looked at [TS]

00:31:04   something recent enough to satisfy the person who you are [TS]

00:31:07   are talking with like but you're not looking at the Android phone right now [TS]

00:31:10   he just looked at it a minute ago when you handed it back to me but it's [TS]

00:31:13   totally better now so I think what happens is I made a decision back when I [TS]

00:31:22   was in college to switch to Macs for a variety of reasons and I like Max and I [TS]

00:31:29   have continued using Macs and I have found that they have fit me and I [TS]

00:31:33   haven't found any wildly compelling reason to switch and so I use I use [TS]

00:31:38   Apple stuff is theirs in some ways it's it's very simple I grew up using dogs [TS]

00:31:46   like that's where I learned how to use computers and then I went off to college [TS]

00:31:49   and in college my wild experimental days I was building my own computers and [TS]

00:31:54   using Linux and all the rest of this and then when I left college I switch to [TS]

00:32:00   Macs and i've i've stuck with them and it was partly because I was tired of [TS]

00:32:04   messing around with Linux all the time I try to customize my system and keep up [TS]

00:32:08   to date on everything I thought you know what I just I don't have time and [TS]

00:32:11   frankly I don't have the interest in this anymore [TS]

00:32:14   of staying on top of all of the packages and compiling from source and all this [TS]

00:32:17   stuff so I members switching to Mac partly because they had UNIX [TS]

00:32:22   underpinnings I thought oh well the terminal is there if I ever want to use [TS]

00:32:25   it I can still do all the UNIX stuff it's not like I am gonna waste that [TS]

00:32:28   knowledge but fast forward 10 years and you know it's a it's a rare quarter when [TS]

00:32:33   I open the terminal to do anything now so I don't have that the satisfactory [TS]

00:32:38   answer but thats but that is definitely the case and then once you've you've [TS]

00:32:42   picked a group it makes sense to to double down on that so I tend to use now [TS]

00:32:47   I use final cut to animate my videos which I have to say I really like I [TS]

00:32:54   think that program is is very nicely designed and I like it and I use logic [TS]

00:32:58   to edit the podcast which is OK although it is crashed a killer I'm sure there is [TS]

00:33:04   a better system for which you agree with that to use logic that my favorite thing [TS]

00:33:09   about logic is if you have a project and you try to open another project oh yes [TS]

00:33:15   and it's like an adult pops up and it basically says to you you sure you want [TS]

00:33:20   to do this because if you do this [TS]

00:33:22   everything will go wrong think you can choose to do it but when you close I'm [TS]

00:33:27   not making any promises they were going to keep any of your changes if you're [TS]

00:33:31   going to have to project open it once it's like sometimes I'm doing that [TS]

00:33:35   unlike recording in one and assembling in the number of something like that and [TS]

00:33:39   I basically all I do is press play and the entire think it's the fundamental [TS]

00:33:45   thing I just press the play button [TS]

00:33:47   everything's gone yes yes on the internet podcast with Brady I i probably [TS]

00:33:54   over edit that podcast end up with a couple hundred audio cuts every time but [TS]

00:33:59   I'm aware that as that number spiked up if I want to just know you know a bunch [TS]

00:34:04   of clips a little bit left logic like I don't know I don't know if we can handle [TS]

00:34:08   this man you want to move [TS]

00:34:10   clips together to cut out a bit of white space I know this is the primary [TS]

00:34:13   function of an audio program but you know spinning wheel of death [TS]

00:34:17   logic is probably not the best example of how isn't this Apple products just [TS]

00:34:22   absolutely amazing but when I started doing the pockets I looked around a [TS]

00:34:27   little bit in terms of what else was available and I can't even remember why [TS]

00:34:32   but at the time I decided I'm going to bite the bullet and learn logic and now [TS]

00:34:36   I have for both of us the reason that we use logic is the perfect example why we [TS]

00:34:41   use Apple products like this is why I do and I seem is probably the same to you [TS]

00:34:46   it's what I know now I used logic because whilst it frustrates me I really [TS]

00:34:51   know how to use logic to get what I need done with it and that's like as far as [TS]

00:34:55   much as I mean I am pretty much exactly the same as you I use all Apple products [TS]

00:35:01   have a Mac Pro i7 iMac MacBook Pro as well die use I used two different [TS]

00:35:05   machines and Apple devices at Trenton quite frankly frustrate the hell out of [TS]

00:35:13   me for myriad of reasons why I know how to use them they are the things that I [TS]

00:35:20   chose to use like 10 years ago so now it's just the stuff that I use in and I [TS]

00:35:24   use an iPhone as well because once I think there is a real benefit with Apple [TS]

00:35:30   devices especially if you get one of them it makes your life easier to get [TS]

00:35:34   others and that's not so much with Android right because there isn't a [TS]

00:35:37   Android desktop as such but you it helps you then to be in Google's complete [TS]

00:35:44   system in general because it helps if you read the same as if you have a [TS]

00:35:50   Windows Phone probably helps that I have a Windows PC can get stuck in these [TS]

00:35:54   teams but one should there it's really hard to break out no matter how great [TS]

00:35:59   something might be if it's not what you know it can be really hard to go away [TS]

00:36:04   from it [TS]

00:36:05   and it's not even that it's it's hard to go away from it it's just what's the [TS]

00:36:09   point you have to spend you have to spend an enormous amount of time [TS]

00:36:14   relearning a whole new system for what you know maybe 5% or 10% improvement [TS]

00:36:21   maybe not even that maybe it's just the same and you don't know what other [TS]

00:36:25   problems or wait for you in a different system so I'm always amazed at the [TS]

00:36:29   opinion that if you're going to ask me to change everything about my computing [TS]

00:36:34   life which is now many devices across personal and work you need a hell of a [TS]

00:36:40   good reason to switch this can be like oh it's 10 percent better this has to be [TS]

00:36:44   ten times better because I've also issued my family an ultimatum when I [TS]

00:36:51   made the switch to Mac which was you guys can keep using Windows but I can no [TS]

00:36:57   longer I can no longer support you on your Windows systems we I will I will [TS]

00:37:02   drift away in knowledge of how to fix your your Windows problems and if you [TS]

00:37:07   want continued free technical support from your son you are going to need to [TS]

00:37:12   switch over and they were no fools they switched over so if not even its not [TS]

00:37:17   even like oh convincing me to change to a different thing is just me making a [TS]

00:37:21   personal decision it's is then the whole the whole network of people in my life [TS]

00:37:26   whose devices I also support in my immediate family and friends at all like [TS]

00:37:31   it has big big knock-on effects of their their network effect to this as well but [TS]

00:37:37   I was I did a lot of weird habits when I was working at school because the school [TS]

00:37:46   used windows for everything and I was still using a Mac so I brought my [TS]

00:37:51   personal laptop into work every day and then kind of juggling back and forth [TS]

00:37:56   between the two systems and I was very aware of keeping documents platform [TS]

00:38:02   agnostic so I I still have to this day [TS]

00:38:06   remnants of the system which is entirely based on storing information in text [TS]

00:38:09   files are other ways that are portable back and forth between the two systems [TS]

00:38:12   but when I got my first iPhone which was the iPhone [TS]

00:38:18   for that that was really I didn't know it then but that was really the moment [TS]

00:38:24   when I start to get locked in big-time where it started to no longer mattered [TS]

00:38:29   to me about trying to keep all of my document formats transferable in the [TS]

00:38:35   future I started to make more decisions about I'm really all in on this and I I [TS]

00:38:42   am very glad that I made that decision because it has made lots of things much [TS]

00:38:45   easier for me and just the system's working together so we've spoken about [TS]

00:38:50   hardware and we've we've established that you know you have a Mac and iPhone [TS]

00:38:56   and twenty-eight pants I think I think I got that right I think I was following [TS]

00:39:02   me so I want to see what's on them right understand a little bit about how you [TS]

00:39:08   set them up because again listening to talent and I know that you're very [TS]

00:39:12   particular about the way the organizations in your house and I wonder [TS]

00:39:15   if that comes to your devices as well right so i phone first maybe your iPad [TS]

00:39:22   as well but i think is it for your iPhone is the most important of the two [TS]

00:39:27   if I had to pick between the two of you only have one that's a difficult [TS]

00:39:33   question I have to sit down and think about that for a while that does not [TS]

00:39:36   immediately answerable surprising to me as a difference in the way that that [TS]

00:39:41   mean you work I don't even use iPad I have one just don't either because my my [TS]

00:39:47   iphone is like like the most important device I think it's closer it's closer [TS]

00:39:54   for me it's my my iPad's do not live unloved on the floor somewhere in my [TS]

00:39:59   house is as presumably yours does it's like somewhere if ever need it I always [TS]

00:40:04   have to search for its never it's never in a place that's immediately obvious [TS]

00:40:07   like the only thing I ever ever use it for us to watch video on there there are [TS]

00:40:13   good for browsing stuff but what you want you want like a screenshot of my [TS]

00:40:16   iphone is that what you want you can give me one really lovely for the [TS]

00:40:19   Shannons Soundwave you excited about that I really hope that people find this [TS]

00:40:24   is interesting as I do cause I just am fascinated by [TS]

00:40:27   and I think that I've whenever we talk about these sorts of things that people [TS]

00:40:32   it seems to get people seem to be excited about it I am very excited about [TS]

00:40:37   the way that people arrange their devices and legs decisions that they [TS]

00:40:42   make it's just fascinating to me to see like the icons of people I think I [TS]

00:40:47   remember seeing a screenshot of your iPhone previously and I was kind of [TS]

00:40:52   little bit fascinated by their they're like there were things on that I just [TS]

00:40:55   couldn't understand I will send you will send you an unmodified ok here's how it [TS]

00:41:01   looked right now as we're talking I didn't know you were gonna do this [TS]

00:41:04   screenshot message but yes as you might imagine I'm a very fussy person in in [TS]

00:41:12   some ways and I have spent far far more men hours than I care to admit trying to [TS]

00:41:21   select a wallpaper that is acceptable and the way that I arrange the icons on [TS]

00:41:25   my phone and on my iPad I really don't I really don't want to know how much time [TS]

00:41:31   has been spent on it but it has been a lot and I am in an acceptable place now [TS]

00:41:35   with the way all the icons are but you know you can always be improved ok so [TS]

00:41:41   I'm looking at this I am looking at this image here and people can find this [TS]

00:41:44   image they want to in a couple of different ways so should mention we've [TS]

00:41:48   mentioned shown its right place to even go for the show nerds there on the web [TS]

00:41:52   they're relay done FM's cortex / one and they're also in if you use a modern at [TS]

00:42:01   modern podcast app you will tend to find the show as in there and some will even [TS]

00:42:06   show this image like embedded in that it is interesting to see that right there's [TS]

00:42:11   a link it'll be right there you see so I have I think we may spend the next four [TS]

00:42:17   hours talking about what I can see here wow this podcast is going to be so [TS]

00:42:22   exciting I think it is I really hope people enjoy I mean for me now but I [TS]

00:42:31   really like [TS]

00:42:33   well as you know I think it's a nice balance I'm crazy about the things [TS]

00:42:39   you're crazy about that I guess that I guess that works for me everything is on [TS]

00:42:44   one screen this took a little while to set up but I do not like multiple [TS]

00:42:49   screens for various reasons I have to accept multiple screens on my iPad but [TS]

00:42:54   on my iPhone especially with the six plus I was absolutely determined to fit [TS]

00:42:59   everything onto a single screen I don't want to have to swipe left or right for [TS]

00:43:03   anything I just want to open up the phone and it's all right there [TS]

00:43:07   ok so the way I arrange that is I have four folders across the top and then [TS]

00:43:16   there are three rows of four icons each so that's that's it's a four-by-four [TS]

00:43:22   greedy in total and everything that I use my phone is there is no secondary [TS]

00:43:27   page to go to so one of the things that interest me the most is the fact that [TS]

00:43:32   you have three items in the dock of your own ok I discusses with people this [TS]

00:43:38   seems so obvious to me it it looks visually so much more pleasing if you [TS]

00:43:43   have three icons in your doctor if you have four icons in your dog look i mean [TS]

00:43:49   look at that screams unlike you have to agree right doesn't it look nicer except [TS]

00:43:54   for the folders there's nothing I can do about the folders but I mean the three [TS]

00:43:57   icons in the doc doesn't that look nicer don't know if it would be wrong it does [TS]

00:44:03   look nice feeling like you're wasting a space you have like that's prime real [TS]

00:44:12   estate there must be one of the apps in that grid of 12 that is good enough or [TS]

00:44:20   used enough that it could take that for place ok here's the thing like since I [TS]

00:44:26   only have one page the doc is less important than it might be on other [TS]

00:44:31   peoples phones so while I agree that it is still prime real estate is very thin [TS]

00:44:37   reachable for me the importance is demoted but those are definitely my [TS]

00:44:43   three most important apps that I use most of the time that I [TS]

00:44:47   havin my doctors the notes out launched into pro and only focus yes those are [TS]

00:44:51   the three three my dark and having them visually offset from the grid above I [TS]

00:44:57   find makes them easier to kind of see and to go to it it highlights their [TS]

00:45:03   importance having only three and then having them center like that it it's [TS]

00:45:08   it's much much better but the other problem that I have is this took a while [TS]

00:45:11   to to settle is that because have a large number of iOS devices I wanted to [TS]

00:45:16   make sure that the doc would always be the same on all of those devices because [TS]

00:45:22   I set up my iPad slightly differently depending on the context of what they're [TS]

00:45:26   being used for but on every doc on every devices those three icons in the same [TS]

00:45:31   quarter notes Launch Center pro and on the focus so I always want that to be [TS]

00:45:36   the same something else that I find interesting why is the absolute you use [TS]

00:45:40   the absolute that are out on that grid of 12 a.m. that they are the prime that [TS]

00:45:46   sit in this group [TS]

00:45:47   read their outside of the folders you have elevated these apps to the status [TS]

00:45:53   of must be always available so I wanna I wanna look at this and I want to ask you [TS]

00:46:00   a few quick questions about some of the choices that you've made so one of the [TS]

00:46:05   things I find really interesting is you have pages byword editorial notes [TS]

00:46:10   they're all text entry apps I assume then that you have different uses each [TS]

00:46:17   of these applications ok so I'm on my phone screen here there are the rose [TS]

00:46:24   orange arbitrarily chosen they are arranged in a particular way [TS]

00:46:28   and the bottom row within near the closest reach of the thumb on the iPhone [TS]

00:46:34   six-plus is basically my writing stuff bro so the the four icons on the bottom [TS]

00:46:41   are in order [TS]

00:46:42   messages pages by word and editorial messages has to be in that spot because [TS]

00:46:47   that's the easiest spot to hit with the thumb and it's a very frequently used [TS]

00:46:51   app but then I have those three slots and conveniently i basically use the [TS]

00:46:56   rewriting apps and yes you are right they they serve different purposes from [TS]

00:47:00   least important to most important pages is the least important of the three I [TS]

00:47:05   use that for Shared Documents with some people primarily Brady so we do our show [TS]

00:47:13   notes actually using pages which his [TS]

00:47:17   you and I have talked in private about that you would not abide for this show [TS]

00:47:21   you a very insistent on using Google Docs unacceptable unacceptable for a [TS]

00:47:27   variety of reasons but I but I I relented I appreciate cannot even begin [TS]

00:47:32   to understand how much I but pages works for free D&I for doing the show notes [TS]

00:47:40   because if you are a professional youtuber you end up with a million [TS]

00:47:44   Google accounts and it can be very frustrating to try and find the correct [TS]

00:47:48   one for the show not so that's why pages works for us we have some shared [TS]

00:47:54   documents in there and I also have a series of Shared Documents / [TS]

00:48:01   instructions for my personal assistant which are in pages so I can I can make [TS]

00:48:07   changes in pages and then she can see it's on her end about you know how bad [TS]

00:48:11   things need to be done in a particular order so pages is is largely for sharing [TS]

00:48:16   documents with those two people and a few other things but that's like 95% of [TS]

00:48:20   the use case ok next over then is by word and by word is where I contain an [TS]

00:48:28   enormous number of lists and documents in in text format this can be [TS]

00:48:37   anything from I keep a list of movies to watch and books to read or I'll have a [TS]

00:48:44   document just a whole bunch of notes for potential project in the future or half [TS]

00:48:49   finished scripts that are not working on at the moment almost it's almost [TS]

00:48:55   anything that doesn't have a dedicated police kind of lives in byword so [TS]

00:49:01   there's just a ton of lists in there and and and I like to have that immediately [TS]

00:49:04   accessible because I can think of [TS]

00:49:06   oh there's a lot of a place that I would like to go on holiday at some point so I [TS]

00:49:11   have a list of places to visit at some point so I can just quickly open up my [TS]

00:49:14   word and add that onto the list and then the one that is the furthest over is the [TS]

00:49:20   most important to me which is editorial and that is the app that I actually used [TS]

00:49:27   to write the scripts for my videos and I keep a very very limited number of [TS]

00:49:35   documents in there I try very hard to keep it at five or under of videos that [TS]

00:49:42   I can say in some sense are active that I am currently working on and currently [TS]

00:49:48   writing so that it that is what editorials for the notes at right you [TS]

00:49:52   keep it in the dock the note is basically just like a pile of crap is [TS]

00:49:58   kinda think of notes notes is some thought popped into my head and I just [TS]

00:50:04   want to write it down I don't even necessarily know what it is or where [TS]

00:50:09   it's going to go I just put it in notes if if something comes into my mind and I [TS]

00:50:15   i have a regular review session that I do with myself I will go through just [TS]

00:50:21   everything that got dumped into notes and I'll sort it out later but I very [TS]

00:50:26   often find myself in situations where there's just something that I want to [TS]

00:50:29   write down quickly and I'm not even sure exactly what it is or where it's going [TS]

00:50:33   to go and i just i just wrote in notes and the reason I use notes is because I [TS]

00:50:38   want that to be available everywhere and I often go through that stuff on my [TS]

00:50:43   computer so i won an application where I can have [TS]

00:50:47   have all of these little like scraps of paper almost as virtual scraps of paper [TS]

00:50:51   but I can then turn through them on my computer one at a time and then very [TS]

00:50:56   quickly oh yes this goes on this list this goes over here this I can just [TS]

00:50:59   delete it is kind of scratch pad sort of application but it's on the dock because [TS]

00:51:05   it is a very very frequently used it just I want to write this thing down [TS]

00:51:08   really quick [TS]

00:51:09   the next row up is the audio the only error yes musical double of a class [TS]

00:51:14   Spotify rights audubon over caustic encinas those users right audio books [TS]

00:51:19   podcasts music and Spotify so I assume you have some staff the you want on your [TS]

00:51:24   device not on Spotify music system is kind of a mess because I have a bunch of [TS]

00:51:31   music that I bought through iTunes awhile back and I don't know a few [TS]

00:51:36   months ago I thought over these kids these days they're talking about this [TS]

00:51:39   streaming music let me try that so I signed up for Spotify and I'm kind of [TS]

00:51:44   some kind of waiting to see what Apple does with its like can you just just [TS]

00:51:49   solve something for me here I feel like I'm halfway between two music systems [TS]

00:51:53   and everything is just a mess everywhere so I have some stuff that's in music [TS]

00:51:57   where I've made particular playlists like I have playlist for when I'm [TS]

00:52:01   writing or for exercise or other stuff but then Spotify is a source where I can [TS]

00:52:06   get new music or it has a little radio feature each does things that I like but [TS]

00:52:10   my music system is just a total mess which is why have the two of them there [TS]

00:52:13   I am unhappy with the current state of music and ideally I would like to [TS]

00:52:17   compress those two icons down to one icon in the future but this is where we [TS]

00:52:23   are at the moment so I'm gonna guess like clear is the lists but I'm so clear [TS]

00:52:30   clear is a very very recent newcomer on this front page here [TS]

00:52:34   promotion it's a big deal when you decided you know it is going to have a [TS]

00:52:40   new one that's on the homepage I can't remember who was there there so [TS]

00:52:47   unimportant they've slipped out of my mind but get clear is clear is a new one [TS]

00:52:53   and I'm experimenting with what I'm calling that the top to wear I'm trying [TS]

00:52:59   to figure out what are the two most important things that I do on a [TS]

00:53:03   particular day like what are the two best things that I can accomplish today [TS]

00:53:07   and I'm keeping them in clear that's all clear is a list of two items and the [TS]

00:53:15   reasons they're on my phone is mainly because of actually on my computer setup [TS]

00:53:19   since I use OmniFocus to run all of my life everything is in focus on my actual [TS]

00:53:26   desktop computer I also always have now clear open on the side showing the two [TS]

00:53:32   things that I think are really what needs to be accomplished and I'm finding [TS]

00:53:37   that it helpful to have that visually present all the time and separate from [TS]

00:53:42   the running through this enormous checklist of stuff I need to do when I'm [TS]

00:53:46   uploading a new video or hear that the bunch of minor errands then you to run [TS]

00:53:52   today kind of suffering only focuses on top of all of that but I like having it [TS]

00:53:56   visually separate and omnipresent these two items that I'm selecting as [TS]

00:54:01   particularly important items for the day that's why clear is there I don't use it [TS]

00:54:04   a lot on the phone but I like to be able to change or tick off those items [TS]

00:54:09   immediately and these two items things that you would like to do the things [TS]

00:54:13   that you have to do this can be a whole other conversation I i would say that [TS]

00:54:18   they are they are important items that they are very rarely things that have to [TS]

00:54:26   happen but this this can be another conversation so I mean do you do you do [TS]

00:54:33   struggle to say do do de do you [TS]

00:54:38   Tue do every time I talk about this app I have to spell it because I just know [TS]

00:54:43   that I say ridiculously like a totally different word I i do you like reminders [TS]

00:54:51   and alarms and things ok so I the crazy thing when you look at this screen shot [TS]

00:54:55   is this guy has three icons on home screen that have check boxes on them [TS]

00:54:59   clear OmniFocus and do think it seems like it alot of items but I don't [TS]

00:55:05   actually use do for the reminder that all I use due solely because they have [TS]

00:55:11   the best timer feature of any app I have tried a hundred percent it's amazing [TS]

00:55:17   yeah when I am trying to find a new app you can look through my purchase history [TS]

00:55:21   as like this guy bought 20 timer at the door and he tried every single one of [TS]

00:55:28   them but do is the only one that does this thing which are now especially with [TS]

00:55:34   the Apple watch is just amazing because I used homers constantly for when I work [TS]

00:55:40   and the thing that I really like about do is when the timer goes off you can [TS]

00:55:46   have it automatically notify you in a minute and keep free notifying you every [TS]

00:55:52   minute until the time until you tell it to stop I love that feature so much its [TS]

00:55:58   almost hard to explain why that the useful but there are many there are very [TS]

00:56:01   many occasions where I don't wanna time are to constantly rain until I tell it [TS]

00:56:07   to stop I wanted to poke me every minute meaning that you need to wrap it up [TS]

00:56:12   buddy but keep reminding me until I tell it yes I have finished this thing that [TS]

00:56:17   I'm doing its it is life changing this this time are and the way it works with [TS]

00:56:24   the Apple watch with sort of tapping you on the wrist is absolutely phenomenal [TS]

00:56:28   outset I I use at least right now I use basically no third party apps on my [TS]

00:56:34   watch except do and I use do all day long but the actual Apple watch as [TS]

00:56:39   brilliant as you can you can enter things there [TS]

00:56:42   you can reschedule things as well I do is probably my favorite apple one [TS]

00:56:48   example of the great it's absolutely great so unexpectedly I have now kind of [TS]

00:56:56   just like took you put you through the store of your iOS device right and [TS]

00:57:01   pointed out things I find interesting and somewhat weird would you like the [TS]

00:57:05   opportunity to the same to mine [TS]

00:57:07   well i gonna give me an honest screenshot yeah I go get my son right [TS]

00:57:12   now and I will send a message for comparison what have you got there in [TS]

00:57:17   one second my Chris iPhone is hideous ok awesome right let's do this what's the [TS]

00:57:24   problem [TS]

00:57:25   451 hey what's wrong with this ok I almost home who said this when I was [TS]

00:57:34   talking about my iPhone but now I have to say to you I don't understand people [TS]

00:57:40   who fill up every slot with icons and you're one of those people who have an [TS]

00:57:46   iPhone iPhone 6 plus its 1234567 rose including the doc seven rows completely [TS]

00:57:54   full with four icons on each row by problem is does like maybe I don't want [TS]

00:58:00   to be there but I can't make it an even and plus I just like to fill the screen [TS]

00:58:05   to screen full screen my God look at these three that you don't want to be [TS]

00:58:12   here at least at least demote one app and leave that that row on the bottom [TS]

00:58:19   clear [TS]

00:58:20   having having at least one row clear is very nice it's very pleasing I used to [TS]

00:58:25   do that I don't know maybe maybe this this this will force me to do I need to [TS]

00:58:30   think more carefully [TS]

00:58:32   the phone why the heck is the phone icon on your home screen [TS]

00:58:37   dunno what's there okay there we go have solved your problem for you get rid of [TS]

00:58:41   the phone icon get rid of whatever those other three are and I mean what I look [TS]

00:58:47   at this this to me is just like you believe I've never seen this in person I [TS]

00:58:52   feel [TS]

00:58:52   i think you must have been hiding this from me in person when you feel like [TS]

00:58:56   grabbed and thrown it belongs to fix this right now buddy this is just this [TS]

00:59:02   is a horrifying visual noise and I have to say your wallpaper wallpaper isn't [TS]

00:59:08   helping [TS]

00:59:09   are you gonna put this in the show notes are people yeah that's one of the bill [TS]

00:59:12   inland Apple give you that is that one built in now that's not bill I promise [TS]

00:59:17   you it is that is an apple designs and telling you if they do occasionally they [TS]

00:59:23   make horrifying decisions that that is no there's no way I mean it is just it [TS]

00:59:28   is just triangles of color there's a blue tinted one and a red tinted one eye [TS]

00:59:34   at the Red Tent drunks ever and I think case open your settings go to wallpaper [TS]

00:59:38   open right now I'm scrolling through though dear god you're right [TS]

00:59:44   see I told you I can't believe that when the built in ones it's great how his [TS]

00:59:49   listeners listeners go look at the show notes and ask yourself which phone would [TS]

00:59:58   you rather use you know with the end of my personality grades it's like you know [TS]

01:00:04   it's like a robot in there but I've got likely clowns on this looks like this [TS]

01:00:10   looks like someone just a bunch of neon and squares are all over the place I do [TS]

01:00:17   feel like they're having their looked like scoring some looking at my laptop [TS]

01:00:22   here is bigger than usual and it's like Charlie looks like it doesn't help [TS]

01:00:31   because I have a lot of color on the icons well yeah I mean well this is an [TS]

01:00:36   even wanna get into my my crazy obsession with this but part of the [TS]

01:00:38   problem with me arranging the icons you have to distribute colors appropriately [TS]

01:00:42   and I and the various icons I have our way to white and orange heavy and it [TS]

01:00:47   took forever to try to figure out how to arrange them but you have a lot of color [TS]

01:00:51   I can see but you have the camera icon on your home screen but you can just get [TS]

01:00:54   that from control center you don't need that icon [TS]

01:00:57   also serves two purposes is also the where get my photos to that that is the [TS]

01:01:05   life you have three pages of this because i'm looking you three dots on [TS]

01:01:09   the bottom [TS]

01:01:09   yeah you want to see the other pages I don't know if I can I don't know if I [TS]

01:01:13   can handle the other pages is lots of stuff and lots of folders this is the [TS]

01:01:17   thing like if I have to move things off this homepage I don't know whether gonna [TS]

01:01:20   go that's the problem is one of the main reasons these days [TS]

01:01:23   ok similar ones this show is meant to be looking at the interesting ways you work [TS]

01:01:30   and now it has actually turned into I expected which was you really killing [TS]

01:01:34   the way that I may have to say what they were looking and looking at this on my [TS]

01:01:40   phone [TS]

01:01:40   get the full experience that's that's a good idea I like that because they're I [TS]

01:01:44   can tap it and then it takes up the whole screen and so it is though I'm [TS]

01:01:48   using your phone and now that I have all three pictures I can swipe back and [TS]

01:01:51   forth just like its three pages this I mean I don't know any other way to [TS]

01:01:55   describe this then just disgusting this is just disgusting I assume right now [TS]

01:02:02   that this is like attacking your senses I don't know I don't know how you I [TS]

01:02:08   don't know how you do anything on here I don't know how you find anything on here [TS]

01:02:12   to use the search everything just looks like crap ok so this is what I was going [TS]

01:02:16   to ask I mean please include a note he can but if you know please include these [TS]

01:02:20   other two screenshots so people can see the first of all your folders are just [TS]

01:02:25   random place it makes no sense at all to you I don't think it makes sense to you [TS]

01:02:31   I don't think I'm hoping you can possibly make sense to you now one thing [TS]

01:02:36   I really don't like I don't like having like apps are second and third page of [TS]

01:02:41   folder that that frustrates me I don't like that ok I wish that there was no [TS]

01:02:47   preview of the icons because then that's why I consider it like on that makes if [TS]

01:02:53   if they're on the second page I don't like that I wish it was just no icon at [TS]

01:02:57   all I can see any savings in the folders then I could put more stuff I don't like [TS]

01:03:01   him I wish there was a way to just specify that I do things that I want to [TS]

01:03:07   have a will never give me [TS]

01:03:08   I want opaque folders so it doesn't even show me what's in there or maybe I can [TS]

01:03:14   select a representative icon or something [TS]

01:03:16   yeah but but but that's the thing that I hate the most about my phone now is seen [TS]

01:03:20   as junkie folders at the top but i'm i'm willing to pay that visual price for [TS]

01:03:25   having the one screen [TS]

01:03:27   the second thing that I want is I want the option to turn off the words [TS]

01:03:32   underneath the icons what why does why does it have to say audible below the [TS]

01:03:37   icon I know what that icon is you know what's gonna happen now right [TS]

01:03:40   what Andrew people I know I know I know and we will tell us I know what happens [TS]

01:03:48   it can never mentioned if I ever mention a setting that listen and read people I [TS]

01:03:51   know that you have settings to change everything I'm fully aware that see our [TS]

01:03:55   previous twenty minute discussion about changing but I want to be able to take [TS]

01:04:00   away the words I find the words are visual clutter that I have no need the [TS]

01:04:05   purpose of the icon is to be able to identify the app I don't need to read it [TS]

01:04:10   I'm not looking at that screen going I wonder what the pink music notice so [TS]

01:04:14   it's music thank you word below the picture there's no need for this I wish [TS]

01:04:18   I could get rid of that I would love it if I could get rid of those words but [TS]

01:04:22   but i cant so I want to visually simplify this even better but ok so so [TS]

01:04:27   does the step back for a second because you mention that because you have no [TS]

01:04:32   kind of system and all you use search to try to find your stuff because it's just [TS]

01:04:36   crap everywhere but you have to do now I use search for everything basically [TS]

01:04:44   that's not immediately visible and what I'm wondering is I may have more apps on [TS]

01:04:50   my phone than you do I want you to look it up on your phone right now you know [TS]

01:04:54   where to go get my phone what are you doing what we leaving the phone all over [TS]

01:05:00   the place is charging is charging is joining why don't you have a charger [TS]

01:05:04   where you sitting there is a thing you need to do where's he going plus I [TS]

01:05:12   didn't want it so I was distracted by my full attention [TS]

01:05:17   to maintain focus so yeah I know it so yes it's under Settings General about ok [TS]

01:05:24   I have a hundred and thirteen applications on my phone how many do you [TS]

01:05:28   have [TS]

01:05:28   194 even know why I have no idea the things when I got this phone I started [TS]

01:05:39   fresh I dunno what's happened I don't know how I've done this you have done [TS]

01:05:43   this you have done this to yourself you've ruined everything I have ruined [TS]

01:05:48   nothing you have ruined everything I have just pointed to the ruins now I [TS]

01:05:52   want my phone to look like yours I mean you gotta do something about that Mike [TS]

01:05:59   see this is why you know of right you know the three icons on the bottom looks [TS]

01:06:05   much nicer you know the one page is nicer will not have three icons on the [TS]

01:06:10   bottom I will always have for anyone looking at this picture still and it [TS]

01:06:13   just seems like there's no rhyme or reason to anything there's no rhyme or [TS]

01:06:17   reason to any of this but there is so I mean you can try the dark consisted [TS]

01:06:28   Tweetbot mailbox chrome and other costs they are my most used most beloved [TS]

01:06:33   applications so they live there I use them constantly I don't even think you [TS]

01:06:37   should have Twitter on your phone but that's a whole other conversation I'm [TS]

01:06:40   writing it down ok then I have messaging applications messages whatsapp and slack [TS]

01:06:56   right they have their uses them and i dont have beats right link as it sits [TS]

01:07:02   above a cast as the audio portion then I have one Password fantastic how only [TS]

01:07:09   focus on work flow that is the productivity section where I get stuff [TS]

01:07:15   done on your home screen [TS]

01:07:19   countering absurd [TS]

01:07:22   then Launch Center pro lives above workflow I can't I mean I can't imagine [TS]

01:07:27   a worse way would you use your phone [TS]

01:07:30   right-handed don't you ok ok then thats I'm looking at that thing that's a [TS]

01:07:34   terrible place if you're using it right handed and that's fine [TS]

01:07:37   that was actually picked as one of the prime places that is that an easy spot [TS]

01:07:42   then I have camera stuff Instagram periscope periscope on the homepage get [TS]

01:07:48   out was a bad mistake that needs to come off I was really excited about it one [TS]

01:07:56   day and then moved to ask but then I have this next line makes no sense [TS]

01:08:02   your RSS reader Evernote Dropbox Google Maps oh yeah those all those for go [TS]

01:08:07   together [TS]

01:08:08   obviously there's nothing clear and do they go together because they're kind of [TS]

01:08:13   reminder eat things how do you say again do do that I have Foursquare cuz this is [TS]

01:08:23   also I mean look at you but you're putting the to the two white colored [TS]

01:08:27   absent next to each other and even unread above the camera used to [TS]

01:08:30   grayscale apps right above each other and then above one Password it's just [TS]

01:08:34   it's it's visually hard to parts of editorial above do which are you have [TS]

01:08:39   the older version of editorial so it's quite this is this is no good i mean the [TS]

01:08:43   new doc you have mail box and chrome next to each other which are visually [TS]

01:08:46   similar of any of the phone at the top left you already admit that you don't [TS]

01:08:49   use so that's that's the phone the top left is there because I think it's [TS]

01:08:53   always been there right you never thought about it you never went about it [TS]

01:08:56   in any kind of rational way just left it there okay and then day one generally [TS]

01:09:03   application I need to seriously rethink this now [TS]

01:09:07   yeah you do like a little sit down next time we meet up for lunch I wanted to [TS]

01:09:14   now I've decided I want to make my fun look like your phone I think that would [TS]

01:09:19   be good for you for icons in dark because I'm civilized 3 icon to the doc [TS]

01:09:24   because it looks much nicer [TS]

01:09:27   have been missing one you don't need to eat but we prob does eliminate the most [TS]

01:09:32   very now goodbye to be part of the reason even installed on my phone you [TS]

01:09:38   shouldn't have to it on your phone then how I talked to him there and we will [TS]

01:09:49   discuss it an episode on this episode of cortex is also brought to you by a clue [TS]

01:09:55   the internet you actually like we're talking about work and another so many [TS]

01:09:59   people are used to be one of those people are believed great honors people [TS]

01:10:03   as well have to use internet internet products that are so boring and horrible [TS]

01:10:08   to look at and terrible to use you have to like just accept a job policies on [TS]

01:10:13   and basically just read some important announcement from a stuffy executive [TS]

01:10:17   somewhere some boring stuff like that that's the stuff we all had to do nobody [TS]

01:10:21   wants to use in trend that way is boring and it looks like these things are built [TS]

01:10:25   in the nineties designed by somebody who actually probably feels like they hate [TS]

01:10:29   you because they just make everything look so horrible to use all those days [TS]

01:10:33   are over and this is what it is all about it allows you to make your company [TS]

01:10:37   internet feel like a place that you actually want to be is super [TS]

01:10:41   configurable you can completely rebranded to give it the look and feel [TS]

01:10:44   of your team you can make you feel home by having a drag-and-drop interface [TS]

01:10:48   allows you to drop the widgets you can reorganize the whole platform to fit [TS]

01:10:52   exactly how your teams and the different departments in your company work is [TS]

01:10:56   pretty pretty cool with igloo as well you don't have to be changed your desk [TS]

01:11:00   to do your work you can manage your task list from a laptop during a meeting you [TS]

01:11:04   can share status updates were you got one foot out the door on Friday and you [TS]

01:11:08   can also access the latest version of a file from home you can even do this in [TS]

01:11:12   your pajamas and nobody will know nobody would judge you I won't judge you these [TS]

01:11:16   days everything should be on mobile your work should be too and so should your [TS]

01:11:21   internet one of the problems with living world while lives like we have these [TS]

01:11:25   days is that people sign up for lots of different services like box and Google [TS]

01:11:29   Drive Dropbox and they want to keep their stuff with them right because [TS]

01:11:32   they're going to be out of the office so they put them in Dropbox or they can [TS]

01:11:35   access this can be problematic for so many reasons because you can [TS]

01:11:40   a security problems right they can happen they can be serious security [TS]

01:11:44   problems having customer data in Dropbox and also because their files all over [TS]

01:11:50   the place [TS]

01:11:50   well it allows you to integrate those services into one big easy to use easy [TS]

01:11:56   to manage easy to secure platform so people can still use Dropbox and stuff [TS]

01:12:00   but is inside a vehicle as well as this just makes it safer just makes it easier [TS]

01:12:04   if you know terms like 256 bit encryption single sign-on an Active [TS]

01:12:09   Directory integrations when you gonna know just how rock-solid igloo is if you [TS]

01:12:13   don't know any that means just trust me with a glue you can share files of your [TS]

01:12:18   coworkers you all to collaborate on you can track has read them have read [TS]

01:12:21   receipts as can be super useful for remember that a child policy document [TS]

01:12:25   was talking about earlier rather than you having to go around in check of [TS]

01:12:28   every single person that has been done cuz you know Sasa stuff needs to needs [TS]

01:12:31   to be signed with include you can see who has read it because it will pop up [TS]

01:12:35   and say they have it's time to break away from the internet that you hate [TS]

01:12:39   going sign up right now and you can try out for free for any team up to 10 [TS]

01:12:44   people for as long as you want go slut right now includes software dot com [TS]

01:12:48   slash cortex thank you so much to a group supporting the show and all [TS]

01:12:52   related to how much do you even consider using your Mac in this way do you even [TS]

01:12:57   think about like what goes in your dog magazine new menu bars an important [TS]

01:13:01   thing I have nothing in my dark now we need to go back to this again nothing in [TS]

01:13:08   your dog to a first approximation that is true for the two there are two [TS]

01:13:15   applications that I do leave in my dog but that is only because I always want [TS]

01:13:19   them in the same location on the dock but otherwise I have no applications in [TS]

01:13:23   my dog the only two things that live there permanently our activity monitor [TS]

01:13:28   because I just want to be able to see it happen next to find her in the same spot [TS]

01:13:31   every time bring up the doc and have a program called auntie RSI which is too [TS]

01:13:36   remind me to stop using the computer at particular times so those two are in my [TS]

01:13:41   dog but it is only because I want their icons in the same place all the time [TS]

01:13:45   otherwise no dock icons my doctor is minimized and there are no Hans season [TS]

01:13:53   tom is on the bottom it is on the bottom but why does this bother you [TS]

01:14:02   takes up so much green real estate but can't tell you something that's probably [TS]

01:14:06   gonna drive you crazy [TS]

01:14:07   have a couple of computers and actually the doc location is inconsistent between [TS]

01:14:10   them on a couple of them it's on the side and some of these are some of them [TS]

01:14:13   is on the bottom I don't understand how I can be criticized about much because I [TS]

01:14:20   never used the dark to launch anything and because it's always hidden I don't I [TS]

01:14:25   don't even really ever pull it up I never thought I never look at the dock [TS]

01:14:28   so where if it's hidden it doesn't matter what's on there I never they [TS]

01:14:31   never use it so it doesn't make any difference if it's on the side of it on [TS]

01:14:34   the bottom one of these days I'll make all the computers consistent but i just [TS]

01:14:37   i dont care because I never look at it [TS]

01:14:39   activity monitor those really that that's crazy to me that this that [TS]

01:14:43   important that is not only open time but is one is pretty much the only at pray [TS]

01:14:49   because the RSI things like utilities thing that keeps the on the app really [TS]

01:14:54   that you ordain to live I mean you have a really powerful computer like what's [TS]

01:14:59   the issue you're finding they're the reason is there is exporting stuff it is [TS]

01:15:04   useful to see if programs have frozen or if there if they're busy and they don't [TS]

01:15:09   use it at the time but it did just give me a sense of what the system up to [TS]

01:15:13   in situations where it might be ambiguous when I'm exporting animations [TS]

01:15:18   is the usual culprit of to the system just three years or is it busy for the [TS]

01:15:22   next couple hours turning away at a two hour long internet video for you to buy [TS]

01:15:28   it that's why I have it there but I don't use it very much it's just more [TS]

01:15:31   than I wanted consistent if it is open on all the systems so I can quickly go [TS]

01:15:34   look and see if there's a problem with something or something needs to be [TS]

01:15:36   killed [TS]

01:15:37   do you care about what is in your menu bar that that I am very picky about and [TS]

01:15:41   definitely for the show notes for listeners if you are picky about the [TS]

01:15:44   icons that live on the top of your menu bar [TS]

01:15:48   I use bartender which is excellent at an exit little app that gives me a little [TS]

01:15:53   box on the menu bar which I can hide a million ugly little icons in there are [TS]

01:16:00   there are very very few icons that are actually visible all the time on my menu [TS]

01:16:05   bar there's the Bluetooth status [TS]

01:16:08   there's a volume do have time machine but that's only because I need to keep [TS]

01:16:14   an eye on that I just switched over systems and I want to make sure it's [TS]

01:16:16   working right there is the input menu so that I can see that my computer is in [TS]

01:16:22   Dvorak because every once in awhile it likes to switch over to a different [TS]

01:16:26   keyboard which is super fun I I use the Microsoft ergonomic keyboard which is a [TS]

01:16:31   PC keyboard rally at another one so I have to change my mind to like PC [TS]

01:16:36   British or otherwise nothing works just love basically it might as well as I may [TS]

01:16:42   as well be using a Dvorak keyboard at that point it does it's just like you [TS]

01:16:45   just don't recognize any yes I have the Dvorak keyboard thing I have the wifi [TS]

01:16:52   indicator and then the one that drives some people are easy when they see my [TS]

01:16:58   computer is that I have what's called a fuzzy clock I used to use one of these [TS]

01:17:04   are my cock right now it doesn't it doesn't display the time as a number it [TS]

01:17:10   displays it is a little sentence so it says quarter past for the words are [TS]

01:17:14   written out on my computer right now people it's actually 1617 yeah but who [TS]

01:17:22   cares I don't care I don't need to know the time that precisely and I really [TS]

01:17:26   like having the fuzzy clock I don't like having little number and for some reason [TS]

01:17:30   I just find it much easier and I don't live a life that that I need to know to [TS]

01:17:35   the minute what time it is I just doesn't matter to me so I I like I like [TS]

01:17:40   the the ambiguity and it somehow it just helped clear in my mind the notion of oh [TS]

01:17:45   it is five o clock 2503 maybe I don't care yeah I get that I do I like that [TS]

01:17:53   because well they confuse an analog watch face that's how you told the time [TS]

01:17:57   yeah it's it's it's very similar to the analog watch me [TS]

01:18:00   thing you don't you don't look at an hour clock and be like oh let me just [TS]

01:18:04   hang on a minute just where exactly 1230 nobody does that they're essential that [TS]

01:18:11   thing for your Wii massively diverged from the overall point of what I was [TS]

01:18:17   driving it today if it is this what you wanted [TS]

01:18:20   is this what you wanted this conversation to be yes I feel like it [TS]

01:18:23   got away from it wasn't what I planned [TS]

01:18:26   looking back on it this is exactly what I want like it went when I wanted us to [TS]

01:18:32   do this show that last 20 minutes was exactly why I hope right basically I [TS]

01:18:39   don't understand you and your really disappointed me how aids the next few [TS]

01:18:46   episodes to go I'm glad that what you wanted and had that what you got [TS]

01:18:53   guarantee disappointed I wanted to set out with you to to start looking at the [TS]

01:19:02   devices that use and the choices you make in the way that you arrange them to [TS]

01:19:06   ask the simple question of do you think that any of this actually makes you work [TS]

01:19:12   the hardware decisions the way to organize things two choices that you [TS]

01:19:16   make do you think that they actually make you work faster harder or smarter [TS]

01:19:21   or do you think it's just the thing that we do you do to just make you feel more [TS]

01:19:27   comfortable to do the work that the actual choices that you make in terms of [TS]

01:19:32   their choice doesn't help you do the work it's just you feel more comfortable [TS]

01:19:35   to get work done all we have in life are the choices we make [TS]

01:19:41   I've made a whole bunch of choices with regards to the hardware and the software [TS]

01:19:46   that I use and then I observe the changes in my own behavior as a as a [TS]

01:19:54   result of this and a lot of it is just making a decision so that a a piece of [TS]

01:20:01   technology becomes almost invisible like I don't really think about my Mac very [TS]

01:20:08   much it's it's almost semi invisible in my life in a way it's just a machine [TS]

01:20:13   that i sat down at [TS]

01:20:14   at and I have my desk in my chair and sit here and I do work on it and that's [TS]

01:20:19   that's what I want from it but I'm always messing around and and tinkering [TS]

01:20:24   with my system to try to see how can things potentially be better and I [TS]

01:20:30   mentioned earlier the thing with clear is something that I'm trying now to have [TS]

01:20:33   two items always visible today does this make a difference I think it does but I [TS]

01:20:38   haven't been doing it long enough to be able to tell so some decisions yes they [TS]

01:20:46   do they help the workflow I don't necessarily it's hard to say if I'm [TS]

01:20:53   faster with particular decisions like if I had learned a different audio program [TS]

01:20:57   would I be faster with that the logic probably not probably wouldn't make much [TS]

01:21:03   of a difference I just had to pick some audio program so I might as well [TS]

01:21:06   continue with my doubling down on Apple so I went with men with logic but things [TS]

01:21:12   like selecting timer applications or task manager applications those things I [TS]

01:21:18   can observe they do make a difference having a better time her application [TS]

01:21:22   matters having a better to do list manager matters it makes a difference [TS]

01:21:29   but then there's stuff just like arranging all of the icons on my phone [TS]

01:21:33   and picking a pleasing background is just because i dont I don't want to live [TS]

01:21:39   a life where a clown has vomited on my phone and I have to deal with that every [TS]

01:21:42   day I would like a nice calming relaxing easily easily visually possible [TS]

01:21:49   environment in which to work unlike some people we have a couple of mechanisms to [TS]

01:21:57   receive follow-up feedback cortex now you can email us but we will probably [TS]

01:22:05   get to this point we would both really prefer if you didn't you [TS]

01:22:11   you can go there if you go to a page online go to realize that I think [TS]

01:22:16   psychotics you will be able to click a button that says contact and it will [TS]

01:22:20   open your email application and you can write me an email and it will go to me [TS]

01:22:24   it will go to great night [TS]

01:22:28   a hundred percent it will never go to him just go to me so you know treat that [TS]

01:22:33   as well as he may but both me angry and not big fans of email if you have [TS]

01:22:40   something that is long you wanna say you really must say it feel free to do it [TS]

01:22:43   just get out there but if it's something you can say over Twitter or on Reddit or [TS]

01:22:49   something like that please do it there because that is a way that we both [TS]

01:22:53   prefer to receive feedback because it's easier to digest I think yes we are [TS]

01:22:59   recording the show [TS]

01:23:00   fairly well in advance the wind it actually goes live I will have a I will [TS]

01:23:05   put up a thread on my subreddits where people can discuss this and people can [TS]

01:23:11   tweet at you or me and that is that is that is the way in which your feedback [TS]

01:23:15   will probably be much more well-received than emailing Mike although I have no [TS]

01:23:21   problem with emailing like that works fine by me but you know it is probably [TS]

01:23:25   better would say that I can I can copy you into all my responses I can create a [TS]

01:23:31   thought I would I was multiple email accounts and use different subject lines [TS]

01:23:38   from me how do people get to the red at like what is the way to do that of [TS]

01:23:45   course for example I have no clue so you need to tell me read it is so [TS]

01:23:50   omnipresent in my life who wouldn't know how to get to the record you go to [TS]

01:23:55   Reddit Retd I T dot com slash are / CGP grey and on there you'll see a link that [TS]

01:24:05   will say cortex number one and you can click that and participate in the [TS]

01:24:09   comment thread [TS]

01:24:11   gray mentioned Twitter as well we are both on Twitter [TS]

01:24:16   great is at CGP grey and I am i Mike I am y ke [TS]

01:24:20   and also something I want to do for the show so we're gonna do the regular [TS]

01:24:24   follow-up and South Asia bureau here many showers but there is there is [TS]

01:24:29   something I would like to do at the end of each show which will be called asked [TS]

01:24:34   great now this is a method of other shows that I host a real FM and what it [TS]

01:24:40   does is it allows you to ask us I guess especially great questions so this can [TS]

01:24:47   be doesn't even necessarily have to be follow-up it can be to be things you [TS]

01:24:50   wanna know you know about you'll hear us talk a lot about work and stuff like [TS]

01:24:55   that you may have seen an app for example on my home screens all grades [TS]

01:24:59   homescreens you wanna know little bit more about you could try and ask us a [TS]

01:25:02   question or maybe you want to understand a little bit more about activity monitor [TS]

01:25:07   and why oh why you would consider it all by you know maybe you have a just a [TS]

01:25:17   quick comment about why a magnifying the doc is like it's just the worst thing [TS]

01:25:21   you could ever do you can if you just tweet with the hashtag ask gray ASX GRT [TS]

01:25:27   why it will go into a document we will control and then we'll be able to bring [TS]

01:25:32   in those who want to talk about it we can we can mention that is a really fun [TS]

01:25:35   way to ask questions and be involved in the showed great way to get followup [TS]

01:25:39   feedback I've never done anything like this so I'm curious to see how this goes [TS]

01:25:45   we'll see how this goes but we will not be able to do it for the next episode [TS]

01:25:49   because I believe we recording that in advance so we won't have asked for a [TS]

01:25:53   next time but we'll have it under third episode I guess is that the way this is [TS]

01:25:57   going to work yesterday episodes we recording before we release them like [TS]

01:26:04   you know before the show is even live to the internet so episode 3 expect to be [TS]

01:26:10   chock full of follow-up questions and feedback on the computer that episode [TS]

01:26:17   maybe before then I would have changed my entire just the way I do everything [TS]

01:26:21   in my life [TS]

01:26:23   who knows as early as I am pushed into changing things but I think that's [TS]

01:26:30   probably about it [TS]

01:26:32   ok I i am glad this is what you wanted I don't know if I and I wanted something I [TS]

01:26:40   got what I was intending alright I'll see you next week [TS]