Cortex 13: Trail of Tears


  so you'll see a link in our little shirts here which I told you not to [TS]

  click until we start the episode and it is the totals of RT shock collars over [TS]

  open the tablet PC so thank you to everybody who bought t-shirts I really [TS]

  appreciate that and so I want to give the world the colors totals so you [TS]

  obviously gray one it's just domination is not even I wouldn't I wouldn't agree [TS]

  with that I wouldn't say is domination I I was quite pleased with how I ended up [TS]

  coming out I say I is just the color blue one the scenario so it was in total [TS]

  433 gray t-shirts and one hundred and eighty-four blue tisha be doing some [TS]

  calculations yes I am doing some calculations it is 70% gray that is the [TS]

  the relevant thing here that works out for me look at this was an actual [TS]

  popularity contest then I would be happy with 30 percent popularity will be [TS]

  pretty happy with thirty percent of the vote [TS]

  yeah I think I bought about a hundred and sixteen of the Blueshirts [TS]

  day so you can you imagine I just take all the money you know I made in just [TS]

  pumped into it would be a good investment [TS]

  terrible terrible investment I I was talking to a dinner about this and i [TS]

  said i was like understand the popularity contest aspect of it i do [TS]

  think that even if it was I was great and you will blue gray would still with [TS]

  people like gray t-shirts oh yeah I honestly honestly think if we reversed [TS]

  at the numbers would be no different I think people by the color that they want [TS]

  to buy I still wanted to just seafood boost the political in a cause de day [TS]

  was it wasn't a strong chance but there was a chance that I was gonna win and [TS]

  then it would have been incredible the fact that I didn't is fine but if I did [TS]

  it would have been glorious right it would have been really sweet I'm very [TS]

  much looking forward to receiving my tisha yeah that's great global bunch how [TS]

  many did you buy a bike for for me and one for India that's quite a lot of [TS]

  T-shirts [TS]

  obviously below blue [TS]

  right well I this is the same as the man of redundancies you are these douches [TS]

  navajo print again so I wanted to have a few of them so I've got a few spare case [TS]

  I don't know one day I'm really angry and just telling off just in case [TS]

  sound possible possible yeah I ordered to the great ones obviously and so i [TS]

  cant wait to see them in person he didn't even get one did you get one [TS]

  great one [TS]

  no you didn't yeah I bought two of each I don't miss that part I thought you [TS]

  were you were stuffing ballot boxes for blue ones to feature keep things fair [TS]

  nice and balanced around now I feel slightly bad but its leading I'm happy [TS]

  I'm happy to have my two gray t-shirts on the way I feel ok I felt bad for just [TS]

  a second and then yeah but that works [TS]

  kyle's Kyle did exactly what I hope somebody would do and he slowed down the [TS]

  court extreme 10000 times it sounds ridiculous the lot of time I don't know [TS]

  if he needed to do it as much as he did I feel like maybe a thousand [TS]

  device but he went all the way to 10,000 and it is horrific [TS]

  it's just I playing in my ears I click the link and it is a very very very long [TS]

  single changes another very very very yes I'm listening to my headphones now [TS]

  and this is extraordinarily unpleasant the majesty that jurassic park does [TS]

  really which is a shame maybe somebody could try and slow down an episode see [TS]

  how that sounds [TS]

  maybe our voices are more melodic then I jingles know that that's got that going [TS]

  to be going to be WAY worse but yes this is definitely the first slow music that [TS]

  I do not enjoy I do not enjoy this while I appreciate your work just I do not [TS]

  appreciate the outcome but there's nothing you could have done about that [TS]

  that's awful [TS]

  me and we made a horrible mistake last episode did wing did we really make you [TS]

  want to talk about you want to talk about the lingua franca thing yeah not [TS]

  French with a lot of feedback which I have to say I enjoyed I enjoyed the all [TS]

  over the board nature of it because originally got some corrections people [TS]

  saying oh you idiots it is not French that phrase is an Italian but then as [TS]

  these things happen as the day goes on we start hearing from other people that [TS]

  oh no it's Latin no its Portuguese know it [TS]

  coalition I just everything across the board accepts French all of them all of [TS]

  the languages lingua franca is correct in except for French right and i was [TS]

  just curious to see what the actual answer is and yes it is pretty much the [TS]

  phrase is in Italian and it is not in reference to French language it is in [TS]

  reference to a language used around the eastern Mediterranean Sea according to [TS]

  Wikipedia during the 18th century as like a common language for commerce and [TS]

  diplomacy that had a whole mix of a bunch of other languages in it so this [TS]

  is this is what this is referring to if not French I'm going to go out on a limb [TS]

  and say there's no way we could I mean we obviously could have known that that [TS]

  is a thing that doesn't know what it's it this is not is not like some [TS]

  philosophical question about the fundamental nature of the universe that [TS]

  might be unknowable do you survive being transported in a Star Trek transporter [TS]

  for example possibly unknowable this is definitely think that we could have [TS]

  known but we just didn't we just didn't feel right now though ask you what do [TS]

  you think about that do you think that people in Star Trek transporter stay [TS]

  alive what do you think they like broken up into pieces in a brand new person you [TS]

  know obviously they die every time every time they died yeah I think that we're [TS]

  not gonna have a big argument about it we can't let that happen on the red like [TS]

  the rhetoric can do that [TS]

  now you just put that out there for debate just throw in various lately that [TS]

  this is seriously one of the few questions that really does haunt me [TS]

  sometimes I think about a little bit because I think the answer might be [TS]

  unknowable and then that says like wait what do you mean that there might be an [TS]

  unknowable question but anyway we're not really gonna get into that now because [TS]

  we have plenty to talk about as it is in the show notes like the role of to all [TS]

  of the feedback reading through all the red stuff about this has been glorious I [TS]

  think my favorite question though comes from house to house their asks what [TS]

  about wives or husbands of course but what about partners gray do not need two [TS]

  partners to have one partner how does this work I need you I need to know well [TS]

  I mean ideally would you would want to do is back up your wife I think I would [TS]

  love a backup of my wife I just like I would love a backup of myself but when [TS]

  we're not in that we're not in that scenario right now this is what skelly [TS]

  rapidly gone back to start track world and what is possible and what is not [TS]

  possible but yes humans are in a situation where there's only one of you [TS]

  twin different people like I'm not sure if you're aware but actually different [TS]

  people [TS]

  3 thing isn't it just the same actually was my high school one set of identical [TS]

  twins that I never realize existed until my senior year when I saw the two of [TS]

  them in the same place and in my mind was blown call wow I thought there was [TS]

  just one of you but there are two of you just around a lot basically that is what [TS]

  I discovered my senior year that I was just so ideally you would like to back [TS]

  yourself up because there's only one copy of me if I get hit by a truck like [TS]

  this is what death is you know there's no back up there's no redundancy and so [TS]

  of course if my wife dies or anyone partner dies you don't have a backup of [TS]

  that person and that's why yes unfortunately with human life we are in [TS]

  a one is none [TS]

  situation and also you know morals you don't have to two partners because [TS]

  they're your morals to see Big Love My Big Love was this show on [TS]

  HBO us a while back which is a drama about a polygamous Mormon family and is [TS]

  very good for the first two seasons I would say after that it went downhill [TS]

  very fast but I used to watch that show and I just thought I could never be [TS]

  polygamous mainly because I am NOT I am NOT like a good people person and I find [TS]

  having a single partner seems complicated enough but having two or [TS]

  three partners this is one of these like when you graph it out on a piece of [TS]

  paper the number of relationships now between three people as opposed to just [TS]

  between two people its way to complicated so used to watch that show [TS]

  and just thing I could not be polygamous simply because of the stress of it all [TS]

  it would just be way way too high of an anxiety situation so no polygamy for me [TS]

  a lot of people person I didn't get any of the references have rules to there [TS]

  are many and I didn't get any of them it just felt like I was the great was just [TS]

  talking to me and giving me some some sage advice that's just how I took it [TS]

  obviously the most pointed at the references is to star wars [TS]

  rights with and i did some googling on this and the idea being the master and [TS]

  apprentice insist that the Apprentice is always ready to take place the master [TS]

  and then they get their apprentices ways to process these two that I would love [TS]

  to know from the Lord nerds when was the exact phrase the rule of two first used [TS]

  in Star Wars because I have a feeling this was a relatively recent addition it [TS]

  was in one of the books it was to a pair of city I'd never heard off [TS]

  ok that makes sense because that I was thinking I know for a fact that was not [TS]

  in the original movies it might have been in the prequels but I wasn't really [TS]

  paying a lot of attention because they're so boring yes he does why didn't [TS]

  get it cuz I've never [TS]

  indulged anything stores outside I've never looked into any of the books are [TS]

  any law or anything like that [TS]

  Millie just seen the movies yes but so I'm pretty sure that the the origin of [TS]

  this phrase the rule of two as far as I know comes from the military and it [TS]

  seems that a few people on the reddit backed me up on this one I just think [TS]

  Luke is still it for Star Wars because it sounds nice but yes the full thing in [TS]

  the military as far as I'm aware is that it's you say that three years 22 is 11 [TS]

  is none and that this comes from vital equipment to the ideas like say you're [TS]

  setting up a military base somewhere and you need electrical power for your base [TS]

  you need to have the real electrical generators because if one of them is a [TS]

  sabotage now you have to electrical generators and you need that backup [TS]

  system where each is backing up the other one while you are replacing and/or [TS]

  fixing the third one so that that's the idea of like the optimal tradeoff for [TS]

  stability without incredible redundancy is three years to do was one in one is [TS]

  not and I just love saying it because it's fine I've been thinking a lot about [TS]

  it as many people have and just considering in my life selling need to [TS]

  know everything [TS]

  yeah we're going to duplicate my live I'm in thinking about my equipment do [TS]

  not use and thinking how I need to know have already have to say now I feel like [TS]

  I need to have three [TS]

  I have like a backup of all my equipment have a microphone and I have some kind [TS]

  of USB interface and I have a different computer in my son now thinking I need [TS]

  to know by a novel things so I end up with three I would suggest that maybe he [TS]

  might be a little bit of overkill [TS]

  well this is what you've done so eventually you tell me for his three and [TS]

  then I'll just be screwed this is actually I'm doing the long con on you [TS]

  right now [TS]

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  their continued support of the show to Mike how are you feeling today I'm [TS]

  jetlagged this is the whole veil of this podcast is basically about jet lag and I [TS]

  am currently experiencing now I came back from America yesterday yesterday [TS]

  yesterday what time did you wake up this morning that I woke up 10 a.m. [TS]

  when I was intended to wake up at eight didn't go well nope basically we mean it [TS]

  denotes alarms they did no new tile [TS]

  well I don't even though we love it when you're coming from the West Coast you [TS]

  just right there's no way around that goes back to London yeah good luck buddy [TS]

  it is always terrible I was even about flying out this time the day after we [TS]

  arrived the next morning I woke up for couldn't go back to sleep with the day [TS]

  when you arrived in Portland I woke up at 4 a.m. and then at 4:30 so we just [TS]

  taking a long morning looking out the window at the people getting ready for [TS]

  their day and then the next hour work of a 510 610 seven then eight and then lost [TS]

  two days I was fine why does come back and show that we are all basically we're [TS]

  awake until like 2 a.m. and then we both woke up at like 330 but why does that [TS]

  happen and then to stay then I managed to sleep until what was supposed to be a [TS]

  and ended up to be ten the question always with jet lag is was it worth it [TS]

  for your xoxo conference it was yeah I mean yeah it's a minor annoyance really [TS]

  when the whole trip was fantastic I had a great time we had a great time I liked [TS]

  having Indiana with me its first conference like a thing like this that [TS]

  she's been to with me as you got to me a bunch of my friends and I and it was a [TS]

  worthwhile experience to explain xoxo because even though I'm not entirely [TS]

  sure about my mind here's my impression from the outside xoxo they even the name [TS]

  oK so it's all like hugs and kisses and it's a bunch of like hipsters who get [TS]

  together in Portland to talk about their artisanal creations of some kind to each [TS]

  other and there's hugs and kisses is that the conflict is that what is that [TS]

  what it is how long am I in a nutshell kind of yes kind of ok [TS]

  so it started four years ago project and it's set up by two guys and eBay and [TS]

  animal who have both been around for a long time and he is the guy in charge of [TS]

  waxy dole [TS]

  yeah and so basically they they wanted to see if they could have a festival / [TS]

  conference importance of Pixar british Foreign everybody who backed it got to [TS]

  get and it did really well and then they went to the second 12 years ago [TS]

  absolutely loved it and then I couldn't go to last one because I just quit my [TS]

  job so I went back this year and it's basically it is both the conference and [TS]

  festival they have two days of the conference where they have independent [TS]

  creators as you kind of summed up talk about the stuff that they make like [TS]

  bloggers and cartoonists artists and musicians they'd give talks about the [TS]

  stuff that they do then also around these two days in the evenings and on [TS]

  the other side they have what they call the festival part where they have people [TS]

  do what they call story which is basically podcast stage and have reply [TS]

  all there this year they do music on a night of music they do a video games [TS]

  video games and they do some board games well so they bring those in like [TS]

  securing list and then people play them so you can buy a Festival Pass which is [TS]

  just that stuff you can get the conference pass which is everything so [TS]

  the talks and all that stuff around and effectively is very like everybody is [TS]

  very emotional by the end because it's a lot of people being [TS]

  talking about themselves and kinda telling their stories and everybody [TS]

  there is even a in an independent creators inclined or be wants to be [TS]

  right I remember when I went first time I just wanted to quit my job [TS]

  day and this time I felt really good vindicated my choices but also terrified [TS]

  because there are people telling stories about the stuff that has gone wrong and [TS]

  you know like all of these things it was really good this time so a bigger group [TS]

  of my friends were there are lots of my friends had made the trip so it's really [TS]

  nice to hang out people and see people and I did that was actually the best [TS]

  part of it for me really should hang out with my friends know then you're seeing [TS]

  some great talks and going to see some of the video game stuff and some music [TS]

  stuff and it was really nice venue they they actually put all the talks on [TS]

  inside of an old high school which had now been converted into a co-working [TS]

  space which is fantastic venue said great story I'm also like they had the [TS]

  outside area let the grass area where the benches and food trucks and a stage [TS]

  musical all the time and they had free beer free soda coffee weekend was pretty [TS]

  good it was it's really good fun actually I do really really great time I [TS]

  recommended gray splitting it up like that is good because on the occasions I [TS]

  get conference invitations it's always about who else is going to the [TS]

  conference if I know a bunch of people going to the conference I'm Way more [TS]

  likely to go to the conference and what is this conference about whatever bunch [TS]

  of people I know are going so maybe I'll go but then the problem with conferences [TS]

  is often this feeling of oh we're just we're just overbooked and watching talks [TS]

  all the time and I feel like I will this is now this conflict because I came here [TS]

  for the people and I have spent two days just watching a whole bunch of people [TS]

  give talks in a seat that sounds really good the way xoxo breaks it up and has [TS]

  two days of free playtime for adults to just socialize and hang out with each [TS]

  other that sounds really good [TS]

  the first day the Fridays actually called social and they arranged a bunch [TS]

  of meetups like I spent about time they podcasters meetup a bunch of people who [TS]

  even made podcasts are fans of podcasts quite you cut taxes [TS]

  want to meet those guys who came up to me to tell me that I blew his mind about [TS]

  the Arab thing [TS]

  he was he just came up to me like I can do that I know what you're talking about [TS]

  so yeah that was fun but yeah it's a great festival in there is more like it [TS]

  has more that festival feeling especially this one because they had [TS]

  this like permanent grounds area with like a bunch of benches and stuff so I [TS]

  actually spent more time like just spending time with people then actually [TS]

  attending the talks which was different for me but I loved that definitely [TS]

  sounds like an excellent conference and I i have been to only one conference [TS]

  which was my first conference that was a bit free-form like that and it was an [TS]

  amazing it was an amazing experience I feel like on xoxo these it sits on my [TS]

  radar then maybe for the future since they've done it interesting when I'm [TS]

  really recommend it like a third custody venue like the area being portland is [TS]

  great [TS]

  like this great food great drinks the slow stuff to do their mom and so many [TS]

  teenagers had a great time and then we stayed for a couple of days afterwards [TS]

  we saw the Foo Fighters on Monday which was brilliant because Dave coral had [TS]

  broken his leg and I had tickets to see him in London and they had to cancel the [TS]

  tour [TS]

  those dates so randomly happened upon the fact that they were playing showing [TS]

  on the Monday in parliament will take it was great and then we just hung around a [TS]

  bit when it does everybody left which is nice because it gave us a couple of days [TS]

  just relax those things was they are a mean sounds like it has lots of friends [TS]

  they can be very like training courses so much stuff happening all the time you [TS]

  know oh yeah I find those things exhausting my wife knows if I come back [TS]

  from a conference I cannot speak for a couple of days like it's a ton of fun [TS]

  because it's so much fun constantly for four days it exalts it drains all of the [TS]

  chemicals in your brain that are related to socializing and conceptualizing the [TS]

  minds of other people like I'm sorry I'm tapped out I'm unable to speak this is [TS]

  just over so you only have two questions then which is one is there much hugging [TS]

  at xoxo yes there's much hugging you mean it's all consensual [TS]

  ok I know someone's not just gonna like appear behind you and hug you have had [TS]

  that happen and it is disconcerting just like in the street somebody you knew now [TS]

  it's like surprise fan backwards hugging and like not really appreciated but [TS]

  thanks but then I guess my second question did you take a DNA to a [TS]

  supermarket or Walmart cuz I know from talking to you that this was on the list [TS]

  of things to take her to a gigantic store it's incredibly difficult to find [TS]

  those in poland business that i was thinkin [TS]

  portland is like the ante boxed or land you are in the wrong city for gigantic [TS]

  americana and so it was basically impossible to find stuff like that we [TS]

  didn't have a lot of like the American experience which is basically tied up in [TS]

  food but the two to find those kinds of things was was really was actually [TS]

  really difficult you gotta go to North Carolina for gigantic box stores you [TS]

  hear about that like the stores inside stores banks in wal-mart's any lessons [TS]

  from xoxo that you want to talk about I think the main one [TS]

  I took away was just considering the change in advertising and how that can [TS]

  change over time [TS]

  like they had a lady called Heather Armstrong and she is known as deuce on [TS]

  Twitter when she was kind of the premier mommy bloggers she kind of started all [TS]

  that well and she had a really really great talk about pulling away from the [TS]

  industry because of a lot of the sponsored content stuff like when a [TS]

  company comes to you and they're like can you write about this about us will [TS]

  take you away this weekend and they proved enormously stuff and she was [TS]

  responsible for some big changes in that role I won't spoil her talk xoxo do put [TS]

  out the videos are some points [TS]

  but it did make me think about how I just need to be aware of changing tides [TS]

  in advertising because a lot of my business is dependent on advertising you [TS]

  love our advertisers and we love working with them but we love working with them [TS]

  in the way that things are currently done right you know like I don't want to [TS]

  be like hey would you like to make an episode about this and we'll pay you [TS]

  i've had companies that don't work with contact me about that kind of stuff [TS]

  would you like to talk about fishing not today so you know about thinking about [TS]

  this thing seeing of the industry's going also just considering me about the [TS]

  way the money and thinking about that in the long term two sets of it's an [TS]

  important thing so I was just going to see people that were much further down [TS]

  the line in their path and considering how I should be looking at my path over [TS]

  the next 10 15 20 years sounds like it was worthwhile almost definitely worth [TS]

  the jet lag [TS]

  yes well yes and yes my main thing that I came away with his just about how [TS]

  there are things you can't be prepared for so you should just be prepared for [TS]

  something that makes sense like you can't always be prepared for the stuff [TS]

  that's going to happen so you can plan for it but you just need to make sure [TS]

  you got all times he has I will completely it will completely agree with [TS]

  that everything is going to happen but if you have a good plan B that could [TS]

  affect many different areas think good and currently I don't have that and I'm [TS]

  happy with that right now but it's a Sunday yeah I think that that's [TS]

  definitely a good piece of advice [TS]

  a plan B but it is a bit of the fallback is is part of the reason why I have an [TS]

  e-mail list to notify my subscribers from YouTube to feel like you know I [TS]

  don't know what is going to happen at YouTube on any particular day ago I [TS]

  can't plan for particular problems but the email list is a general backup [TS]

  solution for lots of potential problems even if I don't know the exact [TS]

  she bought them so yeah definitely on board with being aware of things might [TS]

  change and how can you be prepared for changes that you don't know about it is [TS]

  very hard to do it so hard to do but it is something I definitely think about [TS]

  alright so I S nine is now out [TS]

  yeaa so I seem to have it installed on all of your devices today take about a [TS]

  week to do probably right around to all go to get a car drive to the safe the [TS]

  safe harbor from the save install a new mic although to be fair to be fair I do [TS]

  gather up all the things in the house when the operating system has been [TS]

  released and it is a bunch of devices because it's all of my stuff plus it's [TS]

  all of my wife stuff yeah and it's just kind of easier to just have me update [TS]

  them all at once and to just do it otherwise otherwise if they could be [TS]

  annoyed over time about updating everything but no not everything has [TS]

  been updated yet because there is my office iPad and I haven't been to the [TS]

  office yet still has to be updated but other than that everything is now on I [TS]

  was nine and I am very happy that it is it is officially out I'm not running the [TS]

  bases anymore I see you run the basis for a while and we've spoken about it a [TS]

  little bit when the basis for announced but have you had any thoughts or [TS]

  feelings about I was nine and how it helps you work on the well here's the [TS]

  thing the beta was a really frustrating experience in some ways because they all [TS]

  look at all these cool things I S nine can do except it can only do them with [TS]

  Apple's built-in apps and so the Fed there were many things that I would want [TS]

  to do like for example writing a script while having a webpage open that I [TS]

  couldn't do because the programs are just not compatible [TS]

  some writing in notes and then using Safari I can't do this and I wasn't [TS]

  going to use notes to be writing my script that would be just craziness so I [TS]

  always nine is out now and finally finally we can use apps the bit like [TS]

  actual third party apps side-by-side [TS]

  once the developers update them and i like it so far the some of the things [TS]

  that I would I was doing but it's still frustrating just waiting for people to [TS]

  update and that they are some really worried about is my go-to markdown [TS]

  editor of choice is editorial which I absolutely love but I cannot help but [TS]

  remember that last year it took almost a year but that after get updated to the [TS]

  iPhone 6 plus size and that was extremely frustrating trying to use that [TS]

  on my phone and so does wonder like how long is it going to be before this gets [TS]

  updated to be able to use it side by side with other things so I feel a bit [TS]

  like right now my go-to editors are editorial and by word and I'm just [TS]

  waiting to see who update to iOS nine first and I will just use them to write [TS]

  scripts and to work with something on the side of the screen [TS]

  whoever gets there first that's what I'm going to be using for the foreseeable [TS]

  future [TS]

  yeah in this moment as well like my my thing is Google Drive at docs and sheets [TS]

  and mailbox they like the ones I'm really waiting on still and I don't have [TS]

  confidence in any of them [TS]

  it's funny you mention that because I don't use the Google Apps except for [TS]

  this very show because you use Google Docs and I was preparing for the show [TS]

  earlier today and to increase the way I do this as I have my iPad out I open up [TS]

  our show notes on the iPad and going through things and I think I wanna make [TS]

  notes for myself about little things that we're going to discuss or want to [TS]

  look at some of the links that you put in the show notes and I was like ok this [TS]

  is a perfect time where I could be doing stuff side-by-side [TS]

  and Google Docs doesn't yet support the side by side thing and I want to be able [TS]

  to have a little story about how oh yes I was praying for the show you the side [TS]

  by side thing but it just it wasn't doable at this stage yet and so this is [TS]

  this is that frustrating transition period that always happens when Apple [TS]

  does something new of waiting for the apps to update whether it's the Retina [TS]

  screen or it's the larger phone or it's the larger phone again or now we're [TS]

  going to go through this with the 3d touch on iOS devices in the future [TS]

  presumably like there's always these changes transition phase of that you're [TS]

  waiting to get through and this is this is where we are right now and so I find [TS]

  myself sometimes forgetting that I can do the split screen thing because not [TS]

  everything that I want to use can do it but I will say that the place where it [TS]

  is most useful and most glorious is with being able to pull instant messenger [TS]

  over on the side because this message conversations it's always so ambiguous [TS]

  when the end it's irritating to be flipping back and forth between I [TS]

  message and whatever it is you're doing and so a couple times now I've been like [TS]

  reading something and I books and someone wants to talk to me and it is [TS]

  great to be able to pull over the instant message conversation and just [TS]

  have it there on the side [TS]

  welcome browsing the web and habit they're on the side so that that is [TS]

  practically the most useful thing so far but i just i just cant wait until my [TS]

  whole writing research work flow has the necessary components to do the side by [TS]

  side thing that I am just cannot wait for crossing my fingers and hoping a [TS]

  markdown editor supports this very soon as well I love the slack slack update [TS]

  last night as we report this to include their split screen that's great that's [TS]

  great that makes me very happy cuz I used like so much my messaging im I'm [TS]

  now basically I just need Google to get their act together an update crime using [TS]

  on my iPad still there at like dogs amps and my email [TS]

  mailbox once they're done then that's enough for me I'm happy that there were [TS]

  things I do the most good I'm just unconvinced that any of the ones I need [TS]

  the most are actually going to change this is the feeling of you were at the [TS]

  mercy of other companies to support things that you want to know who that [TS]

  was last support anything banks yeah my bank will one of the banks time we've [TS]

  just updated to the iPhone 6 layout Wow like two days ago [TS]

  really really keeping it together but overall I am pretty happy with iOS 9 [TS]

  they've introduced new features but it doesn't feel like it was rushed and a [TS]

  gigantic buggy mess like iOS 7 was which was a real disaster for the first six [TS]

  months so I I was not feel like a nice compromise between new stuff and [TS]

  stability so far I have to say I have been more impressed than I would expect [TS]

  with some of the app suggestion things so as listeners will know I have a [TS]

  million apps that are in folders that I just searched for by swiping down on the [TS]

  screen and typing and I thought to be a little bit gimmicky this thing where [TS]

  they want to predict what app you're going to use I thought oh certainly is [TS]

  going to be my most for used out there all the time but I have to say I've been [TS]

  pretty impressed with how many times I go to swipe down on the screen and I [TS]

  intend to type but the thing that I'm going to use is already there [TS]

  it seems that they're doing it relatively smartly figuring out you know [TS]

  what time of day it is or whatever they're doing it works much better than [TS]

  I would have thought it did so I have to say I I quite like that feature that's [TS]

  been really good for me so far I like that I don't like the news [TS]

  oh ok this took me forever to figure out because it was driving me crazy but if [TS]

  you if you swipe not from the top down but from the side over it shows you news [TS]

  stories and I don't want to see this I was getting really angry about it [TS]

  because I couldn't figure out where to turn it off but I did figure it out [TS]

  here's the trick to get rid of the news [TS]

  great way it's doesn't here's a trick to eliminate [TS]

  and I mean I hate to say it but the news that the headlines I kept seeing where [TS]

  it was exactly like the worst example of the kind of news that I don't want it [TS]

  about yeah I'm swiping over and it's like oh with the latest on the [TS]

  republican primaries in the United States and plane crashes and you know a [TS]

  terrorist incidents across the world is like I just don't need to see this stuff [TS]

  just don't need to see it but I okay so anyway [TS]

  spotlight search under General Settings it lists all of this stuff now would you [TS]

  would think it would be and what I foolishly thought it was is turned off [TS]

  the news option I thought surely the news option is where you want this to go [TS]

  now if you keep scrolling down scrolling down scrolling down scrolling down there [TS]

  is this button which is labeled spotlight suggestions now is not the [TS]

  serious suggestions up at the top but at the very very bottom the spotlight [TS]

  suggestions button now I don't know why on earth this label is this because as [TS]

  far as I can tell if you turn it off the only thing it removes is the news [TS]

  everything else it'll still show you it'll still show you results from your [TS]

  documents which is exactly what I want to be able to search files it'll still [TS]

  show you everything that you have turned on but it seems to just not fill that [TS]

  screen with something if there are no results [TS]

  that's my guess about what that button is like if you swipe over and there's [TS]

  space on the screen it must have a fallback of like oh just show whatever [TS]

  is lovely just in the news so turning off thats which gets rid of the news [TS]

  that will make it go away it's very weird I cannot figure out why it's [TS]

  labeled that way because I mean I know you and I we never really talked about [TS]

  on the podcast we both have this a similar opinion about following the news [TS]

  on a day-to-day basis and in particular like following the news when I'm trying [TS]

  to do something else on my iPad like please this is the last place I ever [TS]

  want to see the news but surely we're not the only people who feel this way [TS]

  and that is just the strangest place to make this change anybody's looking to [TS]

  get rid of the news that's where you go [TS]

  spotlight suggestion [TS]

  and if anybody knows what else that's turning off I would love to know it must [TS]

  be doing something else it can't be just that right [TS]

  it must be other stuff gets rid of any sense to label it wouldn't but when I [TS]

  was playing around with it I couldn't figure out what else it was like the new [TS]

  seem to be the only thing that changed and so I'm happy I can still search all [TS]

  my documents I can still get everything that I want and I don't have anything [TS]

  that I don't want it I just flip that switch magic goodbye news I've heard [TS]

  thought it was news right now this is news that thing was I was getting really [TS]

  furious because I flip that news which and like oh I'm still hearing I'm still [TS]

  hearing all about Donald Trump my phone I why is this the case and I was getting [TS]

  really mad like don't tell me that there is no way to turn this off there has to [TS]

  be a way to turn this off and yeah that's where it was but I was going to [TS]

  tweet up a storm of fury if there is no way to watch our Apple exactly as stock [TS]

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  the iPad program it's real I know we're going to upset people that don't want to [TS]

  talk about Apple products but you know this is this is the Apple show now this [TS]

  is this is what you've got today if you don't want to hear about Apple you [TS]

  should just stop the show right now this is your warning there you go now talk [TS]

  about Google [TS]

  I Felpro is this what you were looking for so if you are and where we have like [TS]

  a 12 inch iPad it's incredibly powerful will get some of the other features [TS]

  there is this the kind of thing you were looking for this was really interesting [TS]

  to watch during the Apple announcement to set the stage for this I had released [TS]

  my most recent video the morning of the Apple events and I spent all day kind of [TS]

  tracking and doing the normal stuff that I do on release day so it's very [TS]

  exhausting but then at the end of the day was like oh this is time so nicely [TS]

  there's going to be a big Apple event and i sat down on the couch with my wife [TS]

  we had some wine can we watch the Apple event live Wow in style [TS]

  did you know what happened with being on the plane and not being able to see a [TS]

  live know so massive diversion we get to the airport check-in and dinners torches [TS]

  to go and see somebody at the desk she goes to the desk and I am kinda standing [TS]

  behind her legs a gap between us at bar behind like to check-in agent see her [TS]

  face while I watch her face change to us scared face Canada would not let her fly [TS]

  to Vancouver acres she has an American visa genuine reason they gave us if we [TS]

  needed to take a emergency landing in Canada she wouldn't have a visa for [TS]

  Canada right but we're going to Vancouver where you don't pass for [TS]

  Canadian customs American customs in Vancouver their their own section to the [TS]

  airport for the us- I don't know that makes sense yeah but it doesn't help [TS]

  feed the DR Congo doesn't help if you're doing a forced landing in Alberta [TS]

  apparently I mean distance logic is so mad it's like you have to get a visa for [TS]

  every country you fly over that doesn't feel right so [TS]

  no matter what we did so we had to basically run around the airport and [TS]

  find a new another airline that would allow a dinner to fly over summer in so [TS]

  we booked on a flight with united so she had to go on her own i to go on my own [TS]

  Francisco I arrived in Portland like three hours earlier so I watched the [TS]

  Apple event on my own in October [TS]

  life very said yes so that was my about how I watched it very different to you [TS]

  with your lovely wife and a glass of wine [TS]

  yeah I was on my my couch recliner all the way [TS]

  feeling like when enjoyable thing to do after a difficult day I had not been on [TS]

  any planes it was delightful and then onto planes sorry mike thanks I [TS]

  appreciate your concern that I look for the most in a fright of empathy and [TS]

  concerned yeah that's what you go to great for the foundations of our [TS]

  friendship it would normally when I was the Apple events it's just like on my [TS]

  computer on the side and I'm doing something else or just leaving it there [TS]

  or whatever but this time I thought you know what Apple has been a long day I'm [TS]

  just going to wait I'm just going to hope for the iPad pro and I just had to [TS]

  sit here [TS]

  expectedly hopeful and see what you deliver and Apple delivered the iPad Pro [TS]

  which I have to say I was quite surprised about I figured this was going [TS]

  to be until October but they did everything all at once in a single show [TS]

  and I Pad Pro was there so yes we have bigger screen and most obviously [TS]

  visually different thing there's a stylist there is a keyboard it's an it's [TS]

  an interesting device and I cannot wait to see one in person because with so [TS]

  many of these things it's hard to judge them until you have one in your hands is [TS]

  like the Apple watches like you can you can look in as many pictures of it or [TS]

  videos of it on somebody's wrist and as as like your monkey brains says I don't [TS]

  understand this until I'm holding it in my paws and then once it's in your [TS]

  policy you have a much better sense of ok this is how it feels this is the wait [TS]

  what is this object mean to me so i cant wait until then the stores to actually [TS]

  take a look at [TS]

  it but nonetheless i pre-ordered it immediately sorry I would say I am going [TS]

  to preorder it's just immediately 30 today in your mind [TS]

  that's basically what happened there I was like I'm already and warranty as he [TS]

  talked about in negotiations speak like I am past the sale in way past that in [TS]

  my mind to look at bank account [TS]

  siphoned off that money in your mind 30 gone what do you imagine doing this [TS]

  like why do you want missus is better than the the current iPad 2 that you [TS]

  have a couple things we will leave aside the stylist for the moment about which [TS]

  there can be a whole conversation but even if the stylus didn't exist for me [TS]

  the bigger screen is a is a selling feature just to have a larger surface to [TS]

  work on is an advantage for me and it's it's almost like you soon as you hear [TS]

  computer programmers talk about this thing that how much of the program you [TS]

  can see on the screen when you're working on it is an important factor to [TS]

  how easy it is to work on a computer program and as soon as tough start [TS]

  scrolling off the screen you are dealing with a very different problem and I feel [TS]

  like I'm writing my script there's a little bit of this that the more of the [TS]

  script I can see it once it's just helpful to have a better overall sense [TS]

  of the structure of what I'm trying to write and part of the problem is that I [TS]

  have always cranked up the text size on my iPad than anything ever right on to [TS]

  Ludacris size like I just love to have the words really big I don't know why [TS]

  but I have a hard time reading when things are are what most people consider [TS]

  to be normal sizes I wanted to be like twice the size of normal size so I [TS]

  always crank up the text really big which means that on an iPad screen I can [TS]

  see far less of the [TS]

  the script than I could have I was a normal person so just straight out of [TS]

  the box [TS]

  simply having a larger screen means I can see more of the texts at once which [TS]

  is very helpful to me and I have a sense of like where I come from in the script [TS]

  and where am I going in this script and then of course you multiply that with I [TS]

  do expect to be using more thing side-by-side so bigger screen again [TS]

  helpful there even if it had no other features then Apple just made a bigger [TS]

  iPad here you go I would still without question that I asked you Mike are you [TS]

  gonna buy the iPad I will buy it was into that hesitation in your voice [TS]

  because I don't know if I wanted to let me explain now that's the reverse of how [TS]

  it normally works only if you think all I want it but I'm not going to buy it [TS]

  for some reason but you're thinking you're going to buy it even though you [TS]

  don't want it so explain why I might want it so I have a recent love affair [TS]

  with the iPod again I'm finding since I've been able to kind of pick and [TS]

  choose when and where and how I work the iPad fits into back into my life again [TS]

  as I'm able to do more I am able to do work from it and I'm able to do it in [TS]

  situations where am I wanna be relaxing at the same time on the computer or [TS]

  maybe not side on sofas and I can do some simple work on here counting [TS]

  working email that kinda stuff or reading Twitter [TS]

  its kind of work I don't know if I could do more if it was bigger right I don't [TS]

  know if that makes me do bigger work right I don't know if that's what [TS]

  happens but I like the idea of crap that's how it was I can do big things [TS]

  with a bigger I've had your tweets will be twice as big two hundred and eighty [TS]

  characters and as the iPod's seems to be becoming more powerful with the ability [TS]

  to have these screens I'm able to do different kinds of work more effectively [TS]

  if I'm able to use to AP's full size of pretty much side-by-side as you can do [TS]

  on the iPad pro that's even better right there is no compromise on not just [TS]

  having one app that's kinda small or too upset to full size that can do more with [TS]

  those I like the idea of a stylist [TS]

  Apple pencil as it scored because I'ma note-taking person I take notes on pen [TS]

  and paper I wonder if I could transfer that completely to an iPad I've been [TS]

  unhappy with all stylist really for not taking the drawing they tend to be five [TS]

  that such sketches that I do is I tentatively sketching something that is [TS]

  going to be turned into something else I'm not making art sketching a layer of [TS]

  a webpage right now have done this or stop on my iPad but with the precision [TS]

  that it seems that the Apple pencil can give I may be able to take real notes on [TS]

  this Apple didn't really focus on note-taking so I'm not sure yet they [TS]

  never much more like doing markup of documents and sketching so i'm waiting [TS]

  to see about note taking [TS]

  there's nothing I want to try and now I am currently as well in a state of [TS]

  change completely with all of my computing I have a Mac Pro which I will [TS]

  be getting rid of and getting iMac as soon as anyone's welcome available once [TS]

  I'm done I i'm finding that currently don't use my laptop anymore except when [TS]

  I'm traveling I'm of Trance [TS]

  I've basically using my desktop Mac for all of my main work so I'm wondering if [TS]

  I keep the laptop around when I like you need to edit the podcast on a plane that [TS]

  then just turn the iPad probe into the work when I'm not home computer when I [TS]

  go to coworking spaces or whatever and then do all of my audio work on my [TS]

  desktop machine and I'm thinking that that might be a nice setup the MacBook [TS]

  the current MacBook I understand why people want to use it I don't [TS]

  necessarily want that device [TS]

  it's not very fast I don't know I couldn't do the stuff that I need a [TS]

  laptop for like audio editing everyone on that machine [TS]

  thinking is why don't I just not get an underpowered [TS]

  like computer and just get an iPad Pro which has some interesting stuff that [TS]

  you can do it because I like Wes sun block of the time warner Western 22 as [TS]

  an operating system and the absurd but there are just certain things that I [TS]

  cannot do or cannot too easily on wireless mic audio editing or this [TS]

  disarm or patent things that take more screen real estate which is why I choose [TS]

  a match to them on rather than an iPad but the bigger iPad deliberation here at [TS]

  the library what's going on here you you are thinking out loud and trying to talk [TS]

  yourself into an iPad pro but the main reason is not for my own purposes it is [TS]

  I will be getting it and deciding if I wanna keep it because of the shows so I [TS]

  will be getting one because I don't think any of my overcoat will or can get [TS]

  one immediately I think this is totally reasonable because in a real way this is [TS]

  a business expense [TS]

  you you talk on many podcasts about Apple stuff you want to have the ability [TS]

  to talk about a knowledgeably so yes I can totally understand that now that you [TS]

  are getting one and you will see if you want one [TS]

  as in if you will keep it after the original two weeks exactly because I [TS]

  genuinely feel that the people that you into our shows that are focused on that [TS]

  type of stuff they want to hear what people think about it and if i dont have [TS]

  none of us have 11 federico it doesn't come out in November in Italy then it is [TS]

  me who can and will get one and now decide if I like it later on but I'm [TS]

  planning on getting completely that talent he will get styles I think I [TS]

  think they really are packaged order three things make the product which is [TS]

  interesting to me they do so little separately yeah let's let's talk about [TS]

  the stylist [TS]

  about the style of pencil hate that name I don't do not like that name I wish [TS]

  they called it the Apple pen and pencil I don't like pencil I think one of the [TS]

  reasons why don't like pencils and immediately makes me think you can flip [TS]

  it over to erase stuff like that to me seems the defining characteristic of a [TS]

  pencil is currently from self I've seen unknown as to whether the hip actually [TS]

  has some kind of thing I saw a demo video yup we're from that trial room [TS]

  where someone did exactly what I would expect which is that they were drawing [TS]

  they flipped over the Apple pencil to try to erase the thing and then the [TS]

  Apple person with them said oh no there's there's nothing in the back it [TS]

  doesn't make sense because there's the Lightning connector in the back there [TS]

  but I think that's a real problem with the name pencil is it just makes you [TS]

  think of these two ends that are useful they should have just called it the [TS]

  Apple pan I have no idea why not [TS]

  or really should have called it the Steve Jobs stylist because everyone [TS]

  likes to make those jokes okay so when I'm watching this this Apple event and [TS]

  Apple comes out and they're like oh look at our gigantic iPad that we're [TS]

  marketing with Jupiter on the front of it which I thought was a nice touch like [TS]

  it was funny but it was also good yeah I like that I like the planet type stuff [TS]

  like this is he whoever was in the marketing dept for that one like thumbs [TS]

  up on the planet imagery was excellent choice but to then they come out in the [TS]

  only have a stylist for it and of course have been leaning back you know my wife [TS]

  is leaning on me I'm drinking my wine and the other hand watching the thing [TS]

  but then the promo video comes on for the stylus and it's like okay [TS]

  concentrate now lean forward we're going to look at this video very closely this [TS]

  is what you've been asking for more importantly I want to see the details in [TS]

  this video because it's all about the details because here's the thing here's [TS]

  the thing I'm pretty sure that I have purchased every stylist that has ever [TS]

  been manufactured anywhere in the world that is say over the $20 more [TS]

  it's not just like cheapo styluses that aren't meant to be good any style is [TS]

  that was meant to be good I have bought them all all of the Kickstarter style I [TS]

  bought the Evernote stylists I have bought all of them because I wanted a [TS]

  good stylist but my journey from each one of them from rubber tip style I to [TS]

  mess style I to find point style i has been nothing but a trail of tears [TS]

  because each stylist was disappointing in its own unique way and I was thinking [TS]

  along time ago about writing a review of the hill like does in style I that I had [TS]

  and why each one was was terrible but it just made me so sad that I couldn't even [TS]

  bring myself to write like a comprehensive review about all of them [TS]

  because they were just there were just never up to task or never up to task for [TS]

  a long period of time that you could use them for a while and then the [TS]

  irritations would really get to you and I feel like this is more trouble than [TS]

  it's really worth and so I am keenly aware of the deficiencies that can exist [TS]

  in stylized that's why I wanted to watch this video very closely and there were [TS]

  two things that I picked up on the first thing that concerns me is there was a [TS]

  lot of hover hand in the video so I couldn't help but notice that in the [TS]

  Apple promo 1 [TS]

  almost everybody who was drawing something like they had their hands just [TS]

  above the iPad right hand was not touching the iPad sometimes it would be [TS]

  like 80 percent of the shots it was a hover hand maneuver of someone holding [TS]

  their hand over and dry and then the second thing was even in the promo [TS]

  videos you could see that there was some lag between the tip of the Apple pencil [TS]

  and the line on the screen now not a lot of lag not much compared to stuff before [TS]

  but some lag [TS]

  you know and so these things are a little bit of a cause for concern for me [TS]

  because like you one of my primary use cases for stylists and the reason I have [TS]

  been so frustrated with previous ones is to write things in the English language [TS]

  and so I have this workflow that is sadly under use my computer but we're at [TS]

  any moment I can pull up a PDF version of any of the script that I'm working on [TS]

  and I used to use the stylus is to on the screen markup and make corrections [TS]

  to like a piece of paper version of the script because that's a very different [TS]

  writing experience and I always felt that it made the scripts stronger when I [TS]

  could read it and work on them in this fashion so I want to do this but it [TS]

  means that I need a stylist that is relatively precise and it also means [TS]

  that I need to be able to rest my hand on the screen and not have any errors [TS]

  really about OSU tapping here did he mean to zoom in [TS]

  because this is hugely frustrating when that happens so I am extremely [TS]

  interested to try the pencil in person but like you I couldn't help but notice [TS]

  like they're focusing on art they're focusing on big broad movements and I'm [TS]

  not going to get my hopes up for the pencil because like I said before I have [TS]

  nothing but but broken broken hearts from all of my relationships with all of [TS]

  my style I in the past so I wanted to be great but I'm not counting on it being [TS]

  great the latency stuff can be fine I think one of the things that they're [TS]

  trying to build into this is the idea that the pencil always moves a little [TS]

  bit quicker see it's not covering up the writing so I think it seems that they've [TS]

  improved latency is always going to be some and as long as it's barely [TS]

  noticeable I can live with that we have in regards to the risk detection [TS]

  I'm confident they've got that sorted partly because this is a Bluetooth [TS]

  stylist here [TS]

  so if they are doing this the way I expect they are doing this and they kind [TS]

  of hint towards this in the marketing copy the idea of this stylist touching [TS]

  the screen is kinda over two-fold maneuver it knows it's being touched but [TS]

  just the Bluetooth stylist itself measures some of the movement and there [TS]

  between the two of them they're making the line I did see some hands-on demos [TS]

  that look promising [TS]

  with people being able to use the pen and then say tap on the screen with [TS]

  their fingers or have their hand touch it but it just like I was seen demos or [TS]

  cases where it works like that with all previous styluses but that's very [TS]

  different from I'm going to be writing on the screen for 45 minutes and at no [TS]

  point do I want the screen to just suddenly jumped to 800% zoom or flip [TS]

  over to the next page because it wrongly interpreted my hand resting on the [TS]

  screen as an input this is the thing with the pen is that the reason all the [TS]

  other styluses had the problem is because they were they had these [TS]

  limitations around them and so you need Apple to build this into the iPad in [TS]

  order to make it work right so that it can work right and I really hope that it [TS]

  works right [TS]

  pencil is exciting to me I mean a thing if it works I will be very happy but [TS]

  like you I'm just hesitant of being like this is gonna be great and then it's not [TS]

  great exactly because you can get it so wrong so easily see people have died [TS]

  without without a doubt there's a couple of things they do want to mention about [TS]

  the pencil which are also on my mind one of them that I find a little concerning [TS]

  is the fact that it's not included with your purchase of the iPad Pro for me [TS]

  this is this is not like I'm cheap and I don't want to buy the pencil like I'm [TS]

  going to buy the pencil almost certainly I'm going to buy too because one is none [TS]

  of this thing there's no way to click anywhere like it's just gonna get lost [TS]

  forever always listen the dual thing that worries me it's not included and [TS]

  there's there's nowhere to put it and it just feels to me like Apple I know you [TS]

  have a lot of space in this iPad because of the weird shot they did with the [TS]

  speakers like that the these huge cavities for the speakers he also didn't [TS]

  make the battery life any longer so is like 10 hours ago fundamental law of the [TS]

  universe that no iPad could have more battery life than 10 hours you had space [TS]

  to put this super thin stylist why isn't there a little slot that I can put this [TS]

  style is into and then it charges inductively wallet in that slot even in [TS]

  the case [TS]

  yea or even in the case some like just a loop of fabric to put it in just do [TS]

  something like that why this concerns me is it will hinder adoption rates for the [TS]

  software side of things not everybody who buys an iPad Pro also buys a pencil [TS]

  how much incentive is there for lots of other programs to try to work with the [TS]

  pencil as much as possible so I'm thinking a lot to like the new taking [TS]

  apps that I use like Shirley Apple has some API's 44 this pencil that they [TS]

  would want people to to use the pencil feel like it's such a fundamental part [TS]

  of this thing I would really want to see it come with the iPad pro [TS]

  solely to really encourage adoption and use of it that like that's why I wanted [TS]

  their ok the keyboard some people are complaining only don't include the [TS]

  keyboard the cheap keyboard I can totally understand selling as an [TS]

  accessory because some people might not wanna keyboard cover case right that [TS]

  that's fine and the keyboard is not a fundamentally new input device it's a [TS]

  keyboard there are many keyboards we've established that keyboards are a [TS]

  standard input but that [TS]

  pan is not a standard input it's kind of this isn't a fair comparison it's a bit [TS]

  like with the Apple TV about how Apple doesn't have a game controller to go [TS]

  with the Apple TV and that shows that Apple is like not really concerned about [TS]

  games on the AppleTV that there that their whole perspective on it is if you [TS]

  can put a casual game on the Apple TV you know that's fine but we're not we're [TS]

  not really interested in having complicated games on the AppleTV whereas [TS]

  if Apple had shipped and Apple TV with the game controller that came by default [TS]

  you would know like ok Apple is serious about games but they clearly aren't and [TS]

  so I'm just worried that the pen is a little bit like this with the iPad pro [TS]

  at Apple's like yeah we're kind of into it but we're not into it enough to [TS]

  really sell this as an input device that everybody who makes professional apps [TS]

  should consider actually agree view especially the game and consulting my [TS]

  feeling will be at stake are already built for note-taking will adopt this [TS]

  immediately and there were nine some new API's around touch sensitivity which is [TS]

  how the in the notes at how the drawing stuff is so good is because they added [TS]

  these new API's for such things anyway so they've added some more stuff for the [TS]

  pencil so I'm confident that apps are centered around the idea of taking notes [TS]

  drawing stuff like that will in put this stuff in that may be announced that [TS]

  aren't necessarily focused on that so much like so for example I think one [TS]

  that you're probably thinking of and I'm considering is on the gravel there are [TS]

  few apps that are on my mind on the gravel is one of them like doesn't [TS]

  necessarily need the stylist might be nice if you had it right so there's [TS]

  there's a site that were it's like well so no I'm not sure [TS]

  introduced this as a as a thought for input method or like GeoTrust [TS]

  are about PDFs for example enabling you to use me you see people like Microsoft [TS]

  and Microsoft showed off their the way that they're going to put the pencil [TS]

  into office [TS]

  looms like okay because he could also do that stuff with your finger dropped like [TS]

  doing the markup things and stuff like that but I do I completely understand [TS]

  where you're coming from [TS]

  yeah I just what I wanted my thoughts is okay here's something that I am I [TS]

  wouldn't use but just under conceptually thinking about it is you could imagine [TS]

  doing something like editing audio on an iPad pro where if the application [TS]

  understands the difference between say here's my left hand which is on the [TS]

  screen and use the pencil is in my right hand I can imagine away like you can be [TS]

  doing selections with the pencil and gestures with the left hand that could [TS]

  make a professional level task like audio editing possible to do on the iPad [TS]

  pro as long as the app understands that so it's not a finger on the other side [TS]

  like it's a pencil and we're going to move into this different mode where it's [TS]

  just always selecting like we know it's a selected device and then the gestures [TS]

  on the left hand are always what to do with the selections I can I can just [TS]

  imagine building apps around the presumption that someone has a stylus as [TS]

  an input device that really could make a difference in how you work and I just [TS]

  worry that those things won't necessarily come about because operators [TS]

  can't assume that everyone who has a pro also has access to a pencil that's [TS]

  that's that's what I worry about you also have one very minor completed on [TS]

  the pencil you ready please why is it white why is the pencil white I R O is [TS]

  dark colors everywhere in the world we understand this every Apple app that's [TS]

  pro is dark colors when you buy pro equipment it's dark colors [TS]

  the iPad Pro is available only in space grey why does it come with a white [TS]

  pencil is only available space great yeah I Pad Pro is just dark forces might [TS]

  beat me to Google I was wrong [TS]

  season in Gold Coast warned that it was it was just the space grey Lexus [TS]

  although a lot of promises I think if you're gonna make a white one fine why [TS]

  is there no black one [TS]

  yeah I don't understand why there is no it doesn't make sense why why did you [TS]

  choose one and if you chose why why if you just go only white kid right doesn't [TS]

  make any sense I don't know why they did it some [TS]

  Jony ive thing I honestly think Apple's doing it because its eye-catching if [TS]

  someone is using a white input device that is rare and the white input device [TS]

  like the pencil it looks very big and so I feel this this little grain of sand in [TS]

  my mind of resentment of you could have made it black I think you didn't make it [TS]

  black because you want people in cafes or in airports to notice someone using [TS]

  this different thing this different thing that you also didn't include by [TS]

  default so I just it just irks me that it's in white like none of the equipment [TS]

  that I have is white everything is black or dark gray like eight matches and it [TS]

  just seems like it's a more professional color you can have it in white but also [TS]

  have it in black I just think it doesn't look good like when they when you have [TS]

  to do that thing when you plug it into the bottom is like oh wow this black [TS]

  iPad and now plugging in this white pencil in a boon to leave it on the desk [TS]

  here for a minute it it's just I don't like the look of it it just it shouldn't [TS]

  matter but it really does irritate me that is not available in black and i [TS]

  think is just a marketing things that as it stands out more obviously that's my [TS]

  guess I have a car yet what's your great it's perfectly round is it but there's [TS]

  no way it's not right [TS]

  all of the pictures show it was that way there's no way that it's not so I'm just [TS]

  looking at the photos I can see that this [TS]

  thing is a perfect cylinder which is the worst thing to do for an Apple device [TS]

  could you put it down on the desk and it will roll away again thinking of [TS]

  thinking is my thought when I was very young kid in school and trying to learn [TS]

  how to write my primary school teachers thought that I couldn't hold a pencil [TS]

  correctly and so they attached onto the pencil this triangular solid yeah those [TS]

  rubber grip things though I had to write with her grip things for forever as a [TS]

  kid it seemed like I was using them embarrassingly long because I was just [TS]

  not able to hold depend directly so if this thing is perfectly round which I [TS]

  just don't think it's also necessary ergonomic for a pencil it may be home by [TS]

  those triangles again I mean what else you gonna do [TS]

  someone's gotta make that those little rubber tile things yeah I love they [TS]

  share the pictures on the desk that picture is not real there's no way you [TS]

  put that thing down its state still if if it really is a perfect cylinder this [TS]

  is again Johnny Ives war against ergonomic use of anything like you know [TS]

  people hold pencils in their hand Jony ive for long periods of time presumably [TS]

  you want people to use this for long periods of time maybe it should be [TS]

  comfortable grip mobile maybe you should be able to put on a surface and it [TS]

  doesn't roll way ticket a while I want great what he wants considering that the [TS]

  tip that the end sorry let the end of the pencil does nothing at all it is a [TS]

  cat that has a lightning connector on the end I want to serve pi Kappa flat [TS]

  edge that's all they would need to do that so somebody make that and you will [TS]

  get my money [TS]

  a third party can the girls on the end that a flat edge to stop it roll out the [TS]

  desk [TS]

  I'm excited about using this but like all of these things we're talking about [TS]

  is to the reasons for why I think I might not be keeping it feels like that [TS]

  it will be later more frustration but could be life changing all the other [TS]

  things that we had to everyone who has listened to us complained about this for [TS]

  the past 20 minutes [TS]

  deep down in my heart excited but I just can't let that excitement grow because [TS]

  of all of the signs like it's gonna it's gonna be this all over again if you if [TS]

  you just let yourself be completely taken over where the excitement you are [TS]

  building you are setting yourself up for never operate exactly exactly is that [TS]

  that is love while I'm looking at these pages have you looked at the hyper pro [TS]

  pro pages oh yeah of course I have you seen the way that people hope this thing [TS]

  in in the in the images impossible is possible this this was my this is one of [TS]

  my bullet points about this as well which is i wonder about the weights of [TS]

  this device and this is one of the I have to see this in person kind of [TS]

  things because the pictures are showing these again [TS]

  tiny little hands holding this thing in the very bottom corner you couldn't even [TS]

  call it the bottom 8th if the bottom 16th of the device is where your thumb [TS]

  in your fingers are holding it and I'm just assuming that this is a two-handed [TS]

  all the time device but every promo shot shows that with just a single hand [TS]

  holding it floating in space with a picture of jupiter on the center of it [TS]

  if this mixed messages like is it is it really big or is it really easy to hold [TS]

  in one hand because I doubt it can be both and all in all it reminds me of is [TS]

  I often think of the difference between the original iPad air and the iPad air [TS]

  to now if you look on Apple's products back pages and if you have two of them [TS]

  side by side and look at them these devices are [TS]

  so close it's remarkable that the weight between them is a tiny difference the [TS]

  height of them is a tiny difference but when I got my iPad air I really disliked [TS]

  it and I would say it's one of my mom I've had like a rank all of my Apple [TS]

  stuff it is very close to the bottom of that list of things that I've ever liked [TS]

  that I got from Apple because I felt it was it was just like centimeters over [TS]

  the actually comfortable to use with one hand line and the iPad air to is one of [TS]

  my favorite Apple devices ever because it's on the other side of that line it [TS]

  is genuinely comfortable for me to use with a single hand to not think about [TS]

  this is white right way is the is the key point way is the key point it's also [TS]

  ever so slightly the thickness I do think matters as well but it's it's just [TS]

  a tiny tiny weight difference that is like if the difference that makes the [TS]

  difference and his this feeling of like I really don't like you i pad area like [TS]

  I love you with all my heart I better to like what the difference [TS]

  0.05% 2005 pounds like that's the difference between these things like [TS]

  nothing but it it's just enough to make a difference and so I think like their [TS]

  marketing of the iPad pro with people holding it with one hand just like don't [TS]

  do this it can't possibly be a one-handed device if I don't think my [TS]

  iPad air is genuinely a one-handed device there is no way the iPad Pro [TS]

  which is more than half a pound heavier and several inches larger in the diag [TS]

  know is going to be a one-handed device to show people holding it with two hands [TS]

  Apple its fine everyone will be happier if you do show it that way you know you [TS]

  know the way says 1.5 seven pounds you know what else weighed about that is [TS]

  that the way the first iPad original iPad which was not comfortable solid in [TS]

  one hand [TS]

  I think was heavy like I know one and a half pounds isn't heavy right that is [TS]

  not heavy weight but if you're holding it in one hand that is is heavy and my [TS]

  my feeling about this is the balance is gonna be all often because it's so large [TS]

  that that's the big problem is where where is the center of gravity and that [TS]

  was kind of my feeling with the iPad or two it was more of a torque issue and [TS]

  you can feel it turning out of your hand and so you're pushing against it is not [TS]

  is not really the direct way and that like that's what the iPad Pro is going [TS]

  to be if you try to hold in that tiny corner he's gonna be a lot of torque [TS]

  from the center of mass pushing down that you have to you have to counteract [TS]

  with your little thumb on the other end but let's talk let's go back to talking [TS]

  about what we can to use this thing so I mean I was something I wanted to mention [TS]

  earlier with what you were talking about how much you you know using iOS and that [TS]

  kind of stuff and wanting a device that why you want to use iOS over-used in [TS]

  these scenarios because like you know like I was going through you could just [TS]

  buy a really like that he had their several reasons why don't want to buy a [TS]

  laptop [TS]

  one of which is I really like being able to physically separate the screen from [TS]

  the keyboard if I ever can I like to prop up the iPad screen on a little [TS]

  stand and I'll put it on maybe like a book so that the up the screen is closer [TS]

  to eye level then the keyboard is and if I'm going around two cafes and things [TS]

  depending on the height of the table I like to be able to sometimes put the [TS]

  keyboard on my lap and have the iPad on the table and so is that physical [TS]

  separation that makes a big difference for me it's surprisingly comfortable to [TS]

  be able to do that and you kind of don't realize with the laptop how easy it is [TS]

  to end up just like hunched over the screen when the two things are in [TS]

  inseparable are inseparable so that that's one big advantage to me [TS]

  of the iPad and the second reason that I use the iPad so much for writing is it's [TS]

  just last [TS]

  distractible of an environment then OSX there are far fewer things that I can do [TS]

  on it and that was one of the things that really attracted me to using an [TS]

  iPad the first time it was it was the Retina screen plus the fact that like [TS]

  when I'm when I'm writing and here is my writing app and this is just what I'm [TS]

  working on you know what I can't do I can't mess around with automated scripts [TS]

  on my computer I don't have the whole world of Steam games available to me at [TS]

  any moment now of course as time has gone on his end as the iPad have gotten [TS]

  more and more capable that is less and less true now you can mess around with [TS]

  saying that like workflows you think there's other distractions that are [TS]

  available but I still find iOS is just a calmer operating system was done to say [TS]

  out loud but this is the mental feeling of it is a bit more like ok this is [TS]

  simple and this is clear and it facilitates focus on what am i doing [TS]

  right now so I just find it more enjoyable experience to work on iOS then [TS]

  OS X and plus my big laptop at home this is really become for me a kind of work [TS]

  machine so when I am sitting at my desk I know what I'm doing I am editing [TS]

  podcasts or I am and a meeting for an upcoming video and then and not now like [TS]

  now it's almost like there's this separation in my mind of which devices [TS]

  are for what and so when I'm sitting at my computer I feel like I'm very much [TS]

  now in ok I'm doing podcasts animating or editing audio this is the mode that I [TS]

  am in when I am at my desk and then I am in writing and research mode when I'm on [TS]

  my iPad and I find that that split just in and of itself is helpful that each [TS]

  device is not necessarily for everything that there's different modes for working [TS]

  that's what that's really wide [TS]

  I really like using the iPad right so let's talk about sharing those modes do [TS]

  you think that you could use the iPad Pro for editing or production of videos [TS]

  or would you want to if you could there's no way that some of the final [TS]

  animation studios ever going to happen on an iPad just it's very unlikely for [TS]

  all while never say never [TS]

  yeah I should be clear about that I am a techno optimists and of course [TS]

  eventually when you get full haptic feedback so it feels like you're [TS]

  pressing this green stuff of course then you can do stuff but the iPad as it [TS]

  currently exists today that said my last video was an interesting example of [TS]

  trying out some basic animation stuff on an iPad and so the video that are most [TS]

  recently put up was the royal family video where I go through this whole big [TS]

  family tree from 1066 until now and I did the rough draft of that entirely in [TS]

  the gravel on an iPad and it was partly just to see how can I use this for some [TS]

  animation work and the answer was under the right circumstances yes but even [TS]

  then that was still much more [TS]

  the writing and the research phase because what I was really doing is like [TS]

  ok I'm building and building out this big graph of the relationships between [TS]

  all of these people and as I'm doing this like I'm reading other stuff I'm [TS]

  researching stuff or making corrections so it still felt like these script [TS]

  creation process but once I had the basic outline then for the more detail [TS]

  work i switch right back to the computer so adding in all the photos making sure [TS]

  the alignment everywhere is perfectly correct adding in text labels all over [TS]

  the place like that stuff it still makes more sense and its way faster to do on [TS]

  the computer [TS]

  there's definitely a place for a kind of rough animation research animation that [TS]

  can be done on an iPad and that's partly why I'm also really excited about the [TS]

  iPad [TS]

  stylist like a being able to make that easier [TS]

  means that I would do it much more on an iPad CI my family I would like it if I [TS]

  could do podcast production well like to a standard who so then I wouldn't need a [TS]

  laptop anymore I'm not holding out hope that that's going to happen for a while [TS]

  yeah audio editing thats I think that is that is asking for a lot I can imagine [TS]

  it happening as I mentioned before but you know I think I might just take a [TS]

  while to develop the software as I imagined manipulate those files directly [TS]

  being a much nicer experience so like taking the pencil and using it to [TS]

  control the actual waveforms yes feels nice but we're a long way away from them [TS]

  yet especially if they get a little bit of haptic feedback that would be very [TS]

  nice yet this is the magic that we can assume in our future right not today not [TS]

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  space but it beautiful [TS]

  you can get the new iPhone unlike the iPad Pro which I have apparently just [TS]

  pre-ordered in my mind I have actually pre-ordered the next iPhone 6 S Plus [TS]

  good work these names are getting too long had to think about that really hard [TS]

  which phone is it the 60 S Plus is too many letters too many words themselves [TS]

  into a corner with that as yeah they really have but so anyway yes I have [TS]

  ordered one and it will well depending on UK parcel services eventually be [TS]

  arriving [TS]

  at my house of the few EC gray I wasn't willing to accept any more because I [TS]

  have this problem the problem in the UK for those of you that is not so much [TS]

  though it could come at any time today with the iPhone orders they just can't [TS]

  cope with the amount and it could basically comment any point in any day [TS]

  in the future [TS]

  delivered on Wednesday old know now it's Thursday on the now it's Friday like it [TS]

  just goes on so this time I have reserved in stopping I missed that [TS]

  option and I am now supremely disappointed that I missed that I would [TS]

  have totally done that otherwise I was looking for it it was in the Apple Store [TS]

  app so when you go into the app for the ordering right at the very top underwear [TS]

  basically where it says the shipping when you select you want it's like would [TS]

  you like to reserve like just something changes check availability so I now have [TS]

  a time frame between April 25 at 9:00 a.m. come pick up my iPhone from my [TS]

  nearest UPS Store and this makes me very happy I might seriously consider after [TS]

  the show just cancel my order and trying to do it again to see if I can do is [TS]

  pick up I would do that the other way around I would see if you can maybe get [TS]

  one thank counsel point that that's all I've done and I'll be picking mine up [TS]

  which I'm very happy about because I was just gonna clean up job done before but [TS]

  that's what i was gonna do I was gonna go ahead and just line up for it because [TS]

  I like to have my destiny my own hands of UK mail which had great potential e [TS]

  the worst company ever created without a doubt those deliveries super unreliable [TS]

  every time every time every single time I think I have been on the yearly [TS]

  upgrades cycles since the five as think I've gotten everyone since then and [TS]

  before that I was on the every other year cycle [TS]

  have done it in many ways there's not much different about the new iPhone but [TS]

  as I was saying to my wife before the event Apple only needs to say two words [TS]

  to convince me to buy the new phone can I guess what they'll take a guess its [TS]

  foster no better camera ok Tim Cook could come onstage hold up the iPhone [TS]

  say the words better camera drop it on the stage [TS]

  walk off and if that was the end of the event I would still have pre-ordered it [TS]

  just as fast I know that you used to be a photography guy to some reason didn't [TS]

  imagine you take in LA pictures on your iPhone it's not that I take a lot of [TS]

  pictures but it's just that my iphone is my camera now ok I used to have [TS]

  professional camera equipment I mean I still have it collecting dust somewhere [TS]

  in the house but on the past several vacations that my wife and I have taken [TS]

  both of us have just have said like is it really worth bringing this extra gear [TS]

  and I understand that the pictures are better don't get me wrong I really [TS]

  deeply better than most people understand how much better the pictures [TS]

  are if you take your DSLR but the truth of it is like when I'm on vacation home [TS]

  in such a lazy mode on vacation I don't want to carry around anything more than [TS]

  I absolutely have to [TS]

  and so my iphone is essentially exclusively the only camera that I use I [TS]

  get that I have to say the difference between the five and the six was a [TS]

  really big difference and I think that this is this is now at the level where [TS]

  this really can be your only camera and it takes good enough pictures under most [TS]

  circumstances and so that's why i think is well I used to spend a bunch of money [TS]

  on camera equipment and I don't spend that money now and so if I look at it in [TS]

  some ways like oh buying the phone is just like buying a new camera [TS]

  it's a it's a no-brainer like of course do I want pictures of my wife and my [TS]

  family to be better than they were before [TS]

  yes I do am i willing to purchase a new phone to get that yes I am so even if it [TS]

  came with no additional features that Sammy would be the total sale at her [TS]

  camera done take my money Tim Cook here you go I can't remember who I was having [TS]

  this conversation with the conversation this was a few weeks before but when you [TS]

  know the new phone is coming and I came to the realization that my iphone is the [TS]

  most important computer that I am I use it the most is the marketing line but it [TS]

  is kind of like the hub of everything right in my life it all goes into here [TS]

  where some devices don't have that so much so I'm at the point now where if I [TS]

  can make this computer betta I will do that and I'm happy to do that once a [TS]

  year [TS]

  yeah I think that is a very reasonable thing to decide and I i have a little [TS]

  nude in our show notes for this thing which I haven't really thought through [TS]

  very well but I run into this notion from people that I think of as upgrade [TS]

  guilt where people feel guilty about upgrading their devices now whenever [TS]

  whenever I think about upgrades did like this there's really only two things to [TS]

  consider one do you have the disposable income if you don't have that the [TS]

  conversation is over and do you have the desire for this new thing whatever that [TS]

  might mean like you do you think this thing is going to is going to make your [TS]

  life better in some way and like for you you have recognized that this is your [TS]

  primary computer or the center of your digital life in some ways and so any [TS]

  improvement in it is a big improvement overall it makes sense to to get it [TS]

  any improvement the some improve the total improvements will have to my life [TS]

  is magnified exactly [TS]

  any any small improvement is that could potentially make the bed at like it [TS]

  faster any speed increased I get from my iphone is big bucks right because you [TS]

  use it so much it is just the center of it some people have this feeling up [TS]

  again I know people in real life in the situation where they have these two [TS]

  things that buying a new iPhone is not going to be a big deal like they have [TS]

  the disposable income for it and they also have the desire for it but they [TS]

  feel this guilt like they're not supposed to buy a new thing when just [TS]

  when the new thing comes out even if it's only slightly better and this this [TS]

  seems to always be focused around electronics like electronics fit into [TS]

  this category in people's mind that is somehow different from things I just I [TS]

  just find this an interesting phenomenon like I know when enough people who want [TS]

  the things and they have the money for the thing and they know that things will [TS]

  be better on the axes that they care about but they don't want to buy it out [TS]

  of some sense of guilt or some sense that they shouldn't [TS]

  well the thing is how much money you can spend on Friday I am getting the 128 [TS]

  gigabytes 100 pounds right that is it that is why people get weirded out about [TS]

  it it's a very very large sum of money but if two would be definitely but [TS]

  that's that's why I'm starting with the leg do you have free income to spend on [TS]

  this thing exactly am i think is my business is going to buy it right this [TS]

  is for me this is like as as warranted for me anyway as a business expense [TS]

  becomes and then you know it's tell people there are a bunch of different [TS]

  benefits for having a business plan on this type of equipment and that is a [TS]

  thing that i'm gonna be doing and it makes sense to me but even if it wasn't [TS]

  because before I still bought one every year [TS]

  ear because I could make the money for it I'm dead space for the money for it [TS]

  because it's important to me and I think that's the most important thing without [TS]

  a doubt and I i think back to a thing that I used to do back when I was a [TS]

  teacher my laptop was the absolute center of my life so because I didn't [TS]

  want to use the Windows computers at school I was always lugging my laptop [TS]

  back and forth and using it everyday and using it all day and let like you with [TS]

  your phone I at the time recognize like I spend so much time on this laptop that [TS]

  almost any improvement is a huge deal like 10 percent faster if I use it [TS]

  12 to 16 hours a day it makes a difference and so when I was a teacher [TS]

  he had a separate savings account which was just for new laptops and every month [TS]

  I put money into the laptop savings account and the way it worked was I put [TS]

  enough money aside so that I was on it I figured it out so was like every 18 [TS]

  months if Apple had something new I was able to get it I felt very guilty about [TS]

  that because I'm acknowledging I spend an inordinate amount of time on this [TS]

  device it is worth upgrading it even if it is 20% faster or with the laptops [TS]

  slightly lighter like whenever they made it a little bit later with the laptop at [TS]

  the time like that was a big deal when you're carrying it back and forth all [TS]

  the time I've had the money set aside for this iPhone about two months right [TS]

  just waiting [TS]

  yeah yeah because I knew this was gonna happen and you know I am NOT at that [TS]

  point where I could just be like oh I was magical the money today but I've [TS]

  been saving for it I still have money set aside for electronics as well which [TS]

  is the exact same thing like I know Apple's going to come out with the new [TS]

  thing [TS]

  is there money available for it yes in my budget like I have it here its in [TS]

  this account is ready to go [TS]

  is waiting and the moment that I can turn this into a new phone [TS]

  excellent this is this is great and is a similar kind of things like I can get [TS]

  better pictures out of it this is exactly the purpose that i want for it [TS]

  and also like I use it so much if for example Safari doesn't lose all of my [TS]

  work when a busy filling in a form just because I've switched over to one [TS]

  password then I come back and it refreshes the page because it has no RAM [TS]

  like if I avoid doing that because the new one has more RAM like this is great [TS]

  improvement and it is 100% worth I have now started saving money for the opera [TS]

  there ya business expense for you can we finish up today with your crazy theory [TS]

  that you have shared of me and I would like these show because it it's kinda [TS]

  crazy and I think it's crazy enough to make sense and I'm interested in it and [TS]

  I'm very interested to see what our audience believes of it i think is crazy [TS]

  like a fox maybe yeah a little bit kinda like you really go okay so I we were [TS]

  talking over lunch about this and the theory is about why does Apple still [TS]

  sell a 16 gigabyte iPhone now [TS]

  friend of the show underscore David Smith has recently written an excellent [TS]

  article where he has a bunch of data about how terrible it can experience the [TS]

  16 gigabyte iPhone is and many people are talking about you know Apple still [TS]

  sells this and why it's awful Apple it themselves kind of admitted with iOS 8 [TS]

  that they had upgrade problems because people didn't have enough space on their [TS]

  phones upgrade their devices and the thing that I keep hearing from everybody [TS]

  is Apple's doing this for two reasons that it's profitable for them and that [TS]

  it also like it pushes people up to these 64 gigabyte model so that the the [TS]

  motivation behind this is money on the talk show even John Gruber asked Phil [TS]

  Schiller about selling the smaller phones and we got an entirely [TS]

  unsatisfactory answer [TS]

  I don't think it's about the money I think Apple knows it's a bad enough [TS]

  experience that they don't want to sell a 16 gigabyte iPhone my crazy theory is [TS]

  that this is a supply chain issue that Apple sells so many iPhones around the [TS]

  world that they are consuming a significant portion of the global supply [TS]

  of the kind of memory that is used in iPhones and that they are actually [TS]

  supply constrained and I mentioned to you at lunch one of the things that was [TS]

  my prediction the back of my theory is if on the 26 S or if on the theoretical [TS]

  pro the don't have 256 gigabytes versions that they don't increase the [TS]

  top size two-year like maybe this is a little bit of evidence for Apple just [TS]

  can't get their hands on enough NAND chips for the memory that this is the [TS]

  real reason why the 16 gigabyte iPhone still exists not because they want to [TS]

  but because they have to keep selling it makes sense to me because I i genuinely [TS]

  con understand why they're doing it at this point they understand the cost [TS]

  cutting thing but it doesn't meet with the customer satisfaction metrics apple [TS]

  and Tim Cook seems so much to care about right Tim Cook loves his customer sets [TS]

  tax assets will be back within the chance if they if they keep doing the 16 [TS]

  Gigabyte because it upsets people cause they get frustrated so it makes that the [TS]

  only logical explanation for me is that there is some sort of technical [TS]

  limitation and a supply limitation would make sense but I just don't know how it [TS]

  works like in regards to like the chips are the chips the same and you need more [TS]

  of them or are there like less of the 16 gig white ships in general I don't feel [TS]

  like I fully understand the weather production works balloon but it makes [TS]

  sense to me [TS]

  your reasoning [TS]

  like that there is only so many that they can use and if they wanna go 32 [TS]

  everywhere they won't have enough of it [TS]

  yeah and and i actually even think that the underscore David Smith article backs [TS]

  me up even more because his numbers are that it was something like what 40 45 [TS]

  percent of people maybe are buying the bottom and iPhone 6 so you figure forty [TS]

  percent of the people who buy iPhones are buying the 16 Gigabyte model and if [TS]

  you upgraded that 232 you'd have to double the amount of memory in forty [TS]

  percent of the global iPhone sales feels like too much yeah I think that is not a [TS]

  trivial amount of of demand for this this product and I I honestly think it's [TS]

  it's an issue of the ability in the global electronics world to supply this [TS]

  stuff and we do kind of know from some documents that Apple the dealings with [TS]

  companies is to lock down and pre purchase all of their supply and so this [TS]

  this happens when competitors go around to the the companies that manufacture [TS]

  parts for Apple and they say oh hey can you manufacture tiny hard drives for us [TS]

  too and the company has to say oh no Apple has free bot 100% of our output [TS]

  over the next five years and so it is the fact that Apple does that kind of [TS]

  stuff to that makes me just feel like it's the memory chip that are in short [TS]

  supply here like this is the precious resource Apple has already locked down [TS]

  as much of this as they possibly can but it is just still not enough it's still [TS]

  not enough because otherwise I just feel like all of the evidence points toward [TS]

  Apple doesn't really wants to do this but they are constrained to do this so [TS]

  that's my theory six I feel like I don't I don't know how these things are made [TS]

  but assuming it takes more material and or more work to make a 32 gigabyte then [TS]

  it makes sense [TS]

  me because they write if its half of the of the iPhone sold which we know is [TS]

  quarter billions of ice to millions like it's just a number that doesn't even [TS]

  make any sense [TS]

  quarter-on-quarter if that keeps going up like where does the material how do [TS]

  you get these chips if they have to double all of that I understand that [TS]

  like it feels like a problem that is too tough to solve so they're just gonna [TS]

  keep ignoring what keep doing it and then eventually will have to change but [TS]

  not this time I just think that they're they're stuck with the alternative is if [TS]

  we give him more RAM it means we have to sell fewer phones because we simply [TS]

  can't supply the memory all the cost has to go up in some way to offset some part [TS]

  of my theory here is that this isn't even a cost issue but if it really is [TS]

  just a a physical limitation in the in the production lines that there's [TS]

  there's some bottleneck in the production of chips like they just they [TS]

  just couldn't do it that they have to sell fewer phones if they wanted to [TS]

  double the memory in the bottom in the bottom line is it does seem super weird [TS]

  right eco 1664 128 look at this point that's just strange why that huge gap in [TS]

  the middle it doesn't make any sense unless you don't have enough of these [TS]

  chips it doesn't make it just doesn't make any sense of course I could be [TS]

  totally wrong it could be that Apple is is trying to push people up the chain [TS]

  but it's just it's been 16 gigabytes so long I just don't think that that is [TS]

  really the reason I just don't think it is so that's my theory at this point I [TS]

  don't care if you're wrong because I like that there is so much that's how [TS]

  things work by consensus that is it case closed [TS]