Cortex 19: Brick of Obligation


00:00:00   you know what my personal assistant got [TS]

00:00:02   me for christmas mike star wars coloring [TS]

00:00:05   books for grown-ups [TS]

00:00:07   I got one of them oh yeah [TS]

00:00:10   was this from one of the many many [TS]

00:00:13   pictures that you sent me of coloring [TS]

00:00:15   books yet from around the world [TS]

00:00:17   I'm proving a point to you right so [TS]

00:00:19   listeners I have been taking photos of [TS]

00:00:21   every bookstore that go into and going [TS]

00:00:24   into bookstore specifically to take [TS]

00:00:26   photos as well to just proved too great [TS]

00:00:29   that coloring is everywhere and now it's [TS]

00:00:32   been proven that is everywhere because [TS]

00:00:33   it's becoming a general gifts that [TS]

00:00:35   people buy each other and now you have [TS]

00:00:37   Star Wars and we may have the same 1i [TS]

00:00:39   have Star Wars inspire creativity or [TS]

00:00:42   something like that images to inspire [TS]

00:00:44   creativity got a picture of your honor [TS]

00:00:45   front [TS]

00:00:46   mhm that's probably what it is i will be [TS]

00:00:49   cracking that book out to Color up [TS]

00:00:52   whilst i'm editing this episode not [TS]

00:00:54   touch the up and waiting do you have to [TS]

00:00:56   have coloring implements no I don't have [TS]

00:00:59   any coloring book implements that I have [TS]

00:01:00   I hope nothing [TS]

00:01:01   alright i'll buy you those for Christmas [TS]

00:01:02   then I i do not want christmas gifts but [TS]

00:01:06   you need the coloring pens and I'm gonna [TS]

00:01:07   get you good stuff because otherwise [TS]

00:01:09   you'll get something crap i know i won't [TS]

00:01:11   get anything [TS]

00:01:12   crap i just won't get anything I don't [TS]

00:01:13   need coloring instruments I don't need [TS]

00:01:15   any of this [TS]

00:01:16   how can you color in the book that [TS]

00:01:17   you've been given that you see i phrase [TS]

00:01:19   that in a very careful way which is that [TS]

00:01:21   this is what she got me for Christmas [TS]

00:01:24   but I was like please don't send this to [TS]

00:01:25   me i do not think it was purchased and [TS]

00:01:29   you denied it [TS]

00:01:30   yeah that's exactly what happened that [TS]

00:01:32   were you expecting gifts know and this [TS]

00:01:36   is why I was like you know what i want [TS]

00:01:37   for christmas [TS]

00:01:37   nothing nothing from everyone is what i [TS]

00:01:40   want for christmas [TS]

00:01:42   do you get any gifts i try not to but [TS]

00:01:45   for some reason in our document here you [TS]

00:01:48   have a gift recommendation for everybody [TS]

00:01:50   else [TS]

00:01:51   oh yeah LOL of your gifts is that the [TS]

00:01:53   recommendation like take all of my [TS]

00:01:55   presence [TS]

00:01:56   exactly that is my recommendation to you [TS]

00:01:58   all this year take mine that I don't [TS]

00:02:00   want them [TS]

00:02:01   no don't take my things and I like the [TS]

00:02:02   things that I have because I mean people [TS]

00:02:04   took your things they don't have to take [TS]

00:02:06   about one thing you have no things [TS]

00:02:07   unless it was iPads you could take one [TS]

00:02:09   of my iPad and everything [TS]

00:02:10   in a minute we're therefore here before [TS]

00:02:13   you just sit down the cash and what is [TS]

00:02:16   that you just pull one out from the [TS]

00:02:17   couch cushions you open a cabinet and [TS]

00:02:19   they will stop pouring out on um yeah [TS]

00:02:21   that's exactly what my eyes [TS]

00:02:23   [Music] [TS]

00:02:25   yes I was thinking I was thinking a a [TS]

00:02:29   gift recommendation if if you listener [TS]

00:02:32   have a geek in your life that you want [TS]

00:02:35   to get a gift for because i bought this [TS]

00:02:37   thing i'm going to recommend a couple [TS]

00:02:40   months ago and I've been surprised how [TS]

00:02:43   much I use it and how much of the a [TS]

00:02:45   game-changer it is for me and i also got [TS]

00:02:48   one for my wife and what this is is just [TS]

00:02:51   an external battery to charge your phone [TS]

00:02:56   or your tablet [TS]

00:02:59   how could you not have one of these okay [TS]

00:03:01   so here's the reason i didn't get one of [TS]

00:03:02   these before but i have a specific [TS]

00:03:04   recommendation and then now of course I [TS]

00:03:06   should have been prepared i'm not [TS]

00:03:08   prepared for the show as Mike knows [TS]

00:03:10   because some stuff came up with required [TS]

00:03:11   my attention right before so when he was [TS]

00:03:14   too busy giving these gifts away [TS]

00:03:17   what is it movie seven but it's a [TS]

00:03:23   specific one that i want to recommend is [TS]

00:03:25   it the one that has the lightning [TS]

00:03:26   yeah into that I have that one is black [TS]

00:03:29   right now has a little dorrit ok there's [TS]

00:03:31   two there's two different ones that i [TS]

00:03:34   want to recommend hold on okay here it [TS]

00:03:38   is [TS]

00:03:38   okay here we go sorry Mike ok here we go [TS]

00:03:41   okay [TS]

00:03:42   universal that's not this is not what I [TS]

00:03:45   want my cannot find the thing okay here [TS]

00:03:48   we go okay [TS]

00:03:49   exactly the one that i have is power [TS]

00:03:51   station plus and i got for myself the [TS]

00:03:56   Forex version but I am seriously [TS]

00:03:58   regretting having not gotten the a text [TS]

00:04:01   version but yes the thing that I like [TS]

00:04:03   about this the thing that makes it for [TS]

00:04:05   me really great is that it does have the [TS]

00:04:09   integrated lightning cable so there's [TS]

00:04:12   like a little cover that opens on the [TS]

00:04:14   front of it and out pops the lightning [TS]

00:04:16   cable so if you have the battery you [TS]

00:04:19   also have the cable to charge whatever [TS]

00:04:21   you want [TS]

00:04:22   and of course for the non-apple people [TS]

00:04:25   out there you can get it with i believe [TS]

00:04:27   it's microUSB built-in instead [TS]

00:04:30   yeah this to me is the whole thing [TS]

00:04:31   because you know what I don't want I [TS]

00:04:32   don't want to have to think about ok I [TS]

00:04:36   need something to charge this and I need [TS]

00:04:38   the wire to plug into the battery to [TS]

00:04:40   then also plug into my phone I've never [TS]

00:04:42   wanted to get any of those but when i [TS]

00:04:43   saw one that had just the integrated [TS]

00:04:45   cable in it as that thought okay I'm [TS]

00:04:47   gonna buy this and I i just love this [TS]

00:04:50   and I cannot believe how much it changes [TS]

00:04:53   my i am out in the city working workflow [TS]

00:04:57   because with this i have enough charge [TS]

00:05:00   to like top up and ipad a little bit [TS]

00:05:03   like I never quite get through a full [TS]

00:05:04   day with an ipad even though apple says [TS]

00:05:06   like oh you get 10 hours like me know [TS]

00:05:08   Apple I don't get 10 hours out of that [TS]

00:05:10   ipad not ever more like six or seven [TS]

00:05:12   depending on what I'm doing but it also [TS]

00:05:14   means that i don't i don't have to pick [TS]

00:05:17   a table that is near an electrical [TS]

00:05:19   outlet like this is not remotely [TS]

00:05:22   required like I can just go in sit down [TS]

00:05:25   at any table I want and charge myself up [TS]

00:05:28   with the power station plus i'm really [TS]

00:05:32   surprised that you didn't have one of [TS]

00:05:34   these considering how much time you work [TS]

00:05:37   and spend outside of home [TS]

00:05:39   yeah well what I had before was just a [TS]

00:05:42   regular plug to plug into the wall and [TS]

00:05:45   then I bought there like three meter [TS]

00:05:47   cables so that I could I could sit [TS]

00:05:49   further away from from a spot and maybe [TS]

00:05:52   but I don't know I just I just never [TS]

00:05:54   thought it would be as convenient as as [TS]

00:05:57   it is and i totally love it and the [TS]

00:05:58   thing that I really like doing which I [TS]

00:06:00   feel sometimes sneaky about is that [TS]

00:06:02   sometimes if I there like a good table [TS]

00:06:05   at a cafe that I want to set it's like [TS]

00:06:07   okay great i considered a good table but [TS]

00:06:09   sometimes you'll see like on the floor [TS]

00:06:11   in and out of the out-of-the-way area [TS]

00:06:13   there's a electrical socket and so i can [TS]

00:06:15   plug in my battery somewhere else in the [TS]

00:06:19   same cafe and just like leave it there [TS]

00:06:21   to charge up for a little bit and then [TS]

00:06:23   when i leave i just grab it and take it [TS]

00:06:24   with me and plug it into my ipad in my [TS]

00:06:26   backpack while walking around so it [TS]

00:06:28   charges i go to my next location and [TS]

00:06:30   then i have my iPad like happily happily [TS]

00:06:32   topped up [TS]

00:06:33   that's a pretty ninja move I keep [TS]

00:06:35   waiting for someone to free [TS]

00:06:36   gonna go like what the hell is this [TS]

00:06:37   thing plugged into our wall but no one [TS]

00:06:39   has either ever noticed or if they've [TS]

00:06:41   noticed they haven't cared i think [TS]

00:06:42   people know enough now like with those [TS]

00:06:44   kinds of things are because it would [TS]

00:06:45   look really weird right this box sitting [TS]

00:06:47   in them in the corner of the cafe [TS]

00:06:49   yeah yeah probably probably the the [TS]

00:06:51   waiters do now because you're not the [TS]

00:06:53   only person that I guess yeah one of [TS]

00:06:56   these days I'm gonna go to plug mine and [TS]

00:06:58   there's already going to be one there [TS]

00:06:59   i'm gonna have to like sneakily take it [TS]

00:07:00   out and put mine instead [TS]

00:07:02   especially now you've shared you know [TS]

00:07:03   tricks mmm yeah yeah there's going to be [TS]

00:07:06   more people into doing it yep they have [TS]

00:07:08   a super small version which is called [TS]

00:07:11   the power reserve which is just this [TS]

00:07:14   tiny little one that movie cells that [TS]

00:07:17   also has an integrated lightning cable [TS]

00:07:20   and it's only enough power to take your [TS]

00:07:23   phone from dead too maybe like forty [TS]

00:07:26   percent but what I've done with this is [TS]

00:07:29   I have gotten my wife 12 just keep in [TS]

00:07:32   her purse all the time and i'll tell you [TS]

00:07:34   it's one of those things where once you [TS]

00:07:36   have it [TS]

00:07:37   she's been in enough situations where [TS]

00:07:39   she's out somewhere and like you know [TS]

00:07:41   it's low cell connection or something [TS]

00:07:43   and the battery runs down and the whole [TS]

00:07:46   point of having that little battery [TS]

00:07:47   there is it's like okay look there's [TS]

00:07:49   just a little backup here which can just [TS]

00:07:51   power up your phone and it's enough [TS]

00:07:52   energy to like get you to call an uber [TS]

00:07:54   to go home or something and so she just [TS]

00:07:56   loves having one of these in her bag as [TS]

00:07:59   a backup and I know that she's getting [TS]

00:08:00   them for a couple of her friends in the [TS]

00:08:02   same situation of like just keep it in [TS]

00:08:04   your bag so that you don't have to worry [TS]

00:08:06   about your phone running out and then [TS]

00:08:08   you're stranded somewhere late at night [TS]

00:08:09   so I've never used battery packs before [TS]

00:08:11   I know who like the latest person in the [TS]

00:08:13   world to this but I really think like [TS]

00:08:15   the integrated cable is what makes all [TS]

00:08:17   of the difference that was like it's one [TS]

00:08:19   thing to keep track of its not two [TS]

00:08:20   things that's a that's great stocking [TS]

00:08:23   stuffer recommendation for geeks for [TS]

00:08:25   Christmas so considering I soon you'll [TS]

00:08:27   still away from the internet you know [TS]

00:08:29   have you happened upon apples battery [TS]

00:08:31   case if you've seen that no i'm so happy [TS]

00:08:33   that i get your response from this right [TS]

00:08:35   now okay I'm going I'm going to bring up [TS]

00:08:37   a link and I'm gonna send you it [TS]

00:08:39   okay because we're talking about [TS]

00:08:41   batteries and I just wanted to see what [TS]

00:08:43   you think about this because i think [TS]

00:08:45   that you're gonna go co raised there [TS]

00:08:47   well don't predict my reaction for [TS]

00:08:49   like now you're just setting me on a [TS]

00:08:50   product it perfectly alright so Apple [TS]

00:08:53   have created and release the battery [TS]

00:08:54   pack for the iphone 6s only iphone 6s [TS]

00:08:57   only yep [TS]

00:08:59   what kind of bullshit is that exactly [TS]

00:09:01   take a look at it and you see huh that's [TS]

00:09:03   interesting looking and I'll go right [TS]

00:09:08   I wouldn't i'm not sure i would go so [TS]

00:09:10   far as to say that it's ugly [TS]

00:09:13   i mean it's it's no it's no UFO Apple [TS]

00:09:18   watch charger thing like that you know [TS]

00:09:20   that docking station that they made me [TS]

00:09:22   an Apple watch that thing is fugly if [TS]

00:09:25   that thing came out of jony ive's brain [TS]

00:09:27   you know I think Johnny I've Jenny I've [TS]

00:09:30   might need to be sent out to pasture but [TS]

00:09:33   this battery this battery case thing i'm [TS]

00:09:37   gonna i'm gonna say it's in elegant but [TS]

00:09:41   if they made one for the 6s plus i might [TS]

00:09:45   get one cry i don't i don't think it's [TS]

00:09:48   so hideous that I wouldn't want to use [TS]

00:09:49   it [TS]

00:09:50   here's my guests about this product this [TS]

00:09:52   to me looks like Apple is trying to make [TS]

00:09:55   something that gives you more battery [TS]

00:09:57   but that is also the lightest and [TS]

00:10:00   thinnest thing they can possibly make [TS]

00:10:03   that's my guess about what this looks [TS]

00:10:04   like i'm really irritated that they [TS]

00:10:06   don't have a 6s plus yeah I don't know [TS]

00:10:09   why this is because and people are going [TS]

00:10:10   like oh if you have a6 this will give [TS]

00:10:13   your battery so it can be like the 6s [TS]

00:10:15   plus know cause think it's like 18 hours [TS]

00:10:17   more battery life this the the place [TS]

00:10:19   doesn't have 18 hours more [TS]

00:10:21   whoa ok that is crazy i was looking at [TS]

00:10:23   this thing i was looking at this thing [TS]

00:10:24   my guess was maybe it's fifty percent [TS]

00:10:26   more battery life you know like it the [TS]

00:10:27   top up Apple was saying it will give 18 [TS]

00:10:30   hours more button also won't take your [TS]

00:10:33   phone from zero to a hundred percent [TS]

00:10:35   yeah but they may be doing some clever [TS]

00:10:38   charging tricks with that right like [TS]

00:10:41   digging a taking a battery from empty to [TS]

00:10:43   full is a very different chemical [TS]

00:10:46   process than than keeping a battery hi i [TS]

00:10:50   think is that there's a there's a lot of [TS]

00:10:52   really non intuitive physics for [TS]

00:10:53   batteries that people think of it as [TS]

00:10:55   like oh it's like a liquid right now [TS]

00:10:57   it's filled with mountain dew and if you [TS]

00:10:58   add fifty percent more mountain dew you [TS]

00:11:00   fifty percent was like oh no batteries [TS]

00:11:01   and capacity [TS]

00:11:02   there's they don't work like this at all [TS]

00:11:04   so I can totally understand if people [TS]

00:11:06   are doing tests where they say oh here's [TS]

00:11:07   my dead battery [TS]

00:11:08   how far does it go up like that might [TS]

00:11:11   not be very representative of how i can [TS]

00:11:13   work that's a good point because you [TS]

00:11:14   can't you can't turn this on off like it [TS]

00:11:18   just charges on when it wants to see [TS]

00:11:22   that's interesting that's very [TS]

00:11:24   interesting and I know I feel like to me [TS]

00:11:28   that's a feature because I also don't [TS]

00:11:30   like the little fiddly switches on the [TS]

00:11:32   movie cases like you know what movie [TS]

00:11:33   can't you just solve this for me like [TS]

00:11:35   just charge it when it's supposed to be [TS]

00:11:36   good but so I don't know I feel like you [TS]

00:11:39   wanted me to mock this case but the the [TS]

00:11:41   more I'm hearing about it the more all [TS]

00:11:43   of thinking is why is there not one for [TS]

00:11:45   the six plus we might talk about this [TS]

00:11:47   later but i was recently traveling and [TS]

00:11:49   normally I don't put a case on my phone [TS]

00:11:52   but when I travel I do because it's a [TS]

00:11:55   situation if I drop it now this is a [TS]

00:11:57   really awkward and inconvenient time to [TS]

00:11:59   try to replace a phone is when you're [TS]

00:12:00   traveling so when I travel I do put a [TS]

00:12:03   case on my phone and why was saying that [TS]

00:12:05   I would get this is this to me would [TS]

00:12:06   seem like for my 6 plus the perfect [TS]

00:12:09   thing to have while traveling because it [TS]

00:12:11   is exactly while traveling that you want [TS]

00:12:13   all of the extra battery that you can [TS]

00:12:14   get and then plus a case like I wouldn't [TS]

00:12:16   use this all the time but i definitely [TS]

00:12:18   would have a use case scenario for this [TS]

00:12:20   now i'm just irritated apple that they [TS]

00:12:22   don't make one for the six plus we'll [TS]

00:12:24   send the muleta this episode of cortex [TS]

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00:12:53   ton of little phrases that i use text [TS]

00:12:55   expander for for example when I'm at the [TS]

00:12:58   office and i'm on my way home I use text [TS]

00:13:00   expander to just write hoq so this is my [TS]

00:13:04   abbreviation hoq because it's not [TS]

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00:13:11   from the office [TS]

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00:13:15   every time i'm coming home and I also [TS]

00:13:17   want to see if my wife needs me to run [TS]

00:13:19   an errand on the way back [TS]

00:13:20   I just want to type my little [TS]

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00:13:31   abbreviations for my cell phone number I [TS]

00:13:33   just right cell q and then it spits out [TS]

00:13:35   my cell phone number i have no idea what [TS]

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00:13:53   i use text expander to do when I'm [TS]

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00:15:27   people to work out how many degrees i am [TS]

00:15:29   away from Kevin Bacon oh yeah we [TS]

00:15:32   mentioned this it turns out five is the [TS]

00:15:35   best number we've got into so far [TS]

00:15:37   oh yeah what's the what's the chain from [TS]

00:15:39   you too Kevin Bacon i interviewed [TS]

00:15:40   animals girl once who has worked with a [TS]

00:15:43   director called ryan Johnson who [TS]

00:15:45   directed a movie that Bruce Willis's in [TS]

00:15:47   and then from bruce willis you go to [TS]

00:15:49   sarah jessica parker actually been in a [TS]

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00:15:52   Kevin Bacon if you're five degrees to [TS]

00:15:54   kevin bacon and I am exactly six degrees [TS]

00:15:56   of Kevin Bacon yeah I like this it's [TS]

00:15:59   kind of crazy to me that I am in within [TS]

00:16:01   that realm now and so are you like that [TS]

00:16:04   there is there is some way now that I as [TS]

00:16:07   a regular mere mortal are within the six [TS]

00:16:10   degree line but this is this is this is [TS]

00:16:13   the whole this is the whole thing that [TS]

00:16:14   with the with the six degrees of Kevin [TS]

00:16:16   Bacon thing is it's non-intuitive pneus [TS]

00:16:18   that everybody is much closer than you [TS]

00:16:21   think they are [TS]

00:16:22   it's just that the connections are [TS]

00:16:24   invisible like that's until you get [TS]

00:16:26   people into the point them out to you [TS]

00:16:27   until you get people pointing them in [TS]

00:16:29   twitter but but even then you're only [TS]

00:16:30   using publicly known connections between [TS]

00:16:33   people right like that's that's what [TS]

00:16:36   makes six degrees really interesting is [TS]

00:16:38   is they give you if you could somehow [TS]

00:16:41   see all of the connections you would see [TS]

00:16:44   that humans are much more closely [TS]

00:16:46   connected to each other than it seems [TS]

00:16:48   possible but i like being 60 together [TS]

00:16:51   bacon exactly so it is a very beautiful [TS]

00:16:53   thing [TS]

00:16:54   thank you to the people that time to [TS]

00:16:55   work that out [TS]

00:16:57   you can now give money directly to me [TS]

00:17:01   and gray [TS]

00:17:01   oh ok so this is this is the thing I [TS]

00:17:06   felt extraordinarily guilty because of [TS]

00:17:08   my internet hiatus I completely missed a [TS]

00:17:12   huge relay announcement that the the day [TS]

00:17:17   or two afterward I was like oh hey did [TS]

00:17:19   you guys do that thing like yeah it's [TS]

00:17:21   already like oh groups so a real FM now [TS]

00:17:27   has a membership program [TS]

00:17:28   mm and the real and membership program [TS]

00:17:31   is something that allows you as [TS]

00:17:33   listeners to give money directly to the [TS]

00:17:35   host of your favorite shows if you so [TS]

00:17:37   choose [TS]

00:17:38   and if you do choose you have some perks [TS]

00:17:39   for you so members will [TS]

00:17:41   members on the newsletter which will be [TS]

00:17:43   a monthly newsletter we give you kind of [TS]

00:17:44   an inside look at what's happening at [TS]

00:17:46   relay of them we also have a store where [TS]

00:17:48   you can buy t-shirts and stickers many [TS]

00:17:50   of you but cortex occurs and we will be [TS]

00:17:53   doing more stuff in the store next year [TS]

00:17:54   some new stuff as well you'll get [TS]

00:17:56   15-percent discount on anything in the [TS]

00:17:58   store as a real phone number and once a [TS]

00:18:01   year we're going to be doing a bonus [TS]

00:18:02   episode of every show for members [TS]

00:18:04   remembers anything and it's going to be [TS]

00:18:06   in August which coincides with real a [TS]

00:18:08   friend's birthday so there will be a [TS]

00:18:10   special episode with some fun stuff of [TS]

00:18:12   each of your favorite shows you're [TS]

00:18:14   signing up for a bonus episode [TS]

00:18:15   yes I didn't know this August that's [TS]

00:18:17   terrible time for me we're gonna have to [TS]

00:18:18   record that ahead of time because it can [TS]

00:18:20   be about anything but they will be [TS]

00:18:21   purposefully out of continuity so it [TS]

00:18:24   doesn't affect for the uh you know what [TS]

00:18:27   we'll do you know we'll do what we do [TS]

00:18:29   that thing will do the thing [TS]

00:18:31   oh yeah did you originally in planning [TS]

00:18:33   for this month yep but that we're not [TS]

00:18:34   going to do for reasons that we can do [TS]

00:18:37   that's a thing like ladies and gentlemen [TS]

00:18:40   I know this is a long way away august [TS]

00:18:42   but trust me you will want to be a [TS]

00:18:45   member [TS]

00:18:45   viscum the record i had this whole big [TS]

00:18:49   elaborate thing plan for a Christmas [TS]

00:18:51   special but great didn't want to do it [TS]

00:18:53   which is probably also a good time for [TS]

00:18:54   me to say that we're not going to back [TS]

00:18:56   now into the middle of January this [TS]

00:18:58   episode is the last one of this year's [TS]

00:18:59   grace going on some another walkabout I [TS]

00:19:02   think to find these feelings are not [TS]

00:19:04   really sure what he's doing but he's not [TS]

00:19:05   gonna be around so we're going to be [TS]

00:19:07   away for a few weeks but yes a great [TS]

00:19:09   didn't want to do this christmas special [TS]

00:19:10   suit will be a member special in august [TS]

00:19:12   so yeah long long story short [TS]

00:19:14   Mike was trying to plan like this [TS]

00:19:16   elaborate court xmas that I just kept [TS]

00:19:18   going no you don't understand mike i am [TS]

00:19:22   taking Christmas off and like was like [TS]

00:19:24   no but we can work more than just my [TS]

00:19:28   kept sending me all these plans like [TS]

00:19:29   he's gonna do this thing it's going to [TS]

00:19:31   be amazing and all you need to do is say [TS]

00:19:34   yes and I was like no you can't close [TS]

00:19:37   though my nearly got you I very nearly [TS]

00:19:40   got you now you think you nearly got me [TS]

00:19:42   but you didn't okay so listen if there's [TS]

00:19:44   this thing that great does write that [TS]

00:19:47   I've noticed over time it's like how [TS]

00:19:48   we're going to do this show in the first [TS]

00:19:49   place like you'll say no I brushes it [TS]

00:19:52   off but then you say something and he [TS]

00:19:53   goes [TS]

00:19:54   hmm and instruct his face and looks up [TS]

00:19:59   and when you've got in there [TS]

00:20:01   you've just got him on the line and all [TS]

00:20:03   you need to do is is really meant [TS]

00:20:04   difficult to get him on that line but [TS]

00:20:06   when you do i'm just going to close it [TS]

00:20:08   down and I didn't close it down well [TS]

00:20:09   enough i left it too long and then we [TS]

00:20:12   missed out but you will get it as a real [TS]

00:20:14   remember [TS]

00:20:15   so the few things you can do for this [TS]

00:20:16   because we giving want to give up money [TS]

00:20:19   directly to our host right that's what [TS]

00:20:21   we're all about real family of companies [TS]

00:20:23   and taking money from this so blog [TS]

00:20:25   transaction fees the money that you [TS]

00:20:27   choose a real FM over where you want it [TS]

00:20:29   to go we'll go to the host of favorite [TS]

00:20:31   shows [TS]

00:20:32   so you can go to really defend such [TS]

00:20:34   membership and every show is there and [TS]

00:20:36   you can give to any of the shows that [TS]

00:20:37   you want to but if you just love cortex [TS]

00:20:40   which you probably do because you're [TS]

00:20:41   listening [TS]

00:20:42   you can go to relay daughter fam / [TS]

00:20:44   cortex you'll see our buttons right at [TS]

00:20:46   the top we have a silver gold annual [TS]

00:20:47   membership that you can do you get the [TS]

00:20:50   same parks no matter what you do but if [TS]

00:20:51   you can just choose how much money you [TS]

00:20:52   want to give us so it could be five [TS]

00:20:54   dollars a month ten dollars a month or a [TS]

00:20:56   hundred dollars a year it's completely [TS]

00:20:57   up to you and we really appreciate it [TS]

00:20:59   you don't have to do this is completely [TS]

00:21:00   optional nothing is going to change [TS]

00:21:02   about the show but we've had people for [TS]

00:21:05   the whole time the show's been around [TS]

00:21:06   want to give us money because you have [TS]

00:21:08   like patreon and stuff for some other [TS]

00:21:10   things that you do know but we wanted to [TS]

00:21:12   build our own system which we could grow [TS]

00:21:13   and adapt as we go forward into the way [TS]

00:21:16   that makes most sense to us so you can [TS]

00:21:18   now give money to show if you choose [TS]

00:21:19   so Mike mhm i get the impression from [TS]

00:21:22   the way you reeled all of that off that [TS]

00:21:26   maybe you haven't spoken about this on [TS]

00:21:28   some other podcasts prior to doing this [TS]

00:21:30   cortex show [TS]

00:21:31   yeah I spoke about it a lot the last few [TS]

00:21:34   days when I want to know right because [TS]

00:21:36   you gotta tell people they don't know [TS]

00:21:38   about it so right [TS]

00:21:40   I've been refining a kind of internal [TS]

00:21:43   add in my brain over the last week or so [TS]

00:21:46   and it and that is the best it has been [TS]

00:21:48   so far but I'm imagining maybe that this [TS]

00:21:51   is the last show that you're talking [TS]

00:21:52   about this i like it is I felt like that [TS]

00:21:54   was very well-rehearsed yeah there might [TS]

00:21:56   be like one more button but that's it [TS]

00:21:59   but this is this is the end of the line [TS]

00:22:00   area i mean i guess the the thing here [TS]

00:22:03   is i feel like--okay this is towards the [TS]

00:22:05   end [TS]

00:22:05   of shows that you have spoken about this [TS]

00:22:07   on this is also about cortex which is in [TS]

00:22:10   theory sort of about our businesses and [TS]

00:22:13   things so you've given you've given the [TS]

00:22:16   pitch to members for what they will [TS]

00:22:18   receive why they might want to become a [TS]

00:22:21   member if they want to support the show [TS]

00:22:22   but like from your perspective that you [TS]

00:22:25   mentioned this to me a while back that [TS]

00:22:27   this was something that you and Stephen [TS]

00:22:30   were noodling with the idea of maybe [TS]

00:22:33   bringing to rely in the future so like [TS]

00:22:35   as much as you want to go into detail [TS]

00:22:37   like I would be kind of curious to know [TS]

00:22:39   like what what are the reasons that you [TS]

00:22:43   wanted to bring this to really like from [TS]

00:22:45   a business perspective one of the key [TS]

00:22:48   ones was just that people have asked for [TS]

00:22:51   and if people are asking to give you [TS]

00:22:53   money [TS]

00:22:54   it feels like you should maybe try and [TS]

00:22:57   make that happen [TS]

00:22:58   mhm right and and I don't expect that [TS]

00:23:01   and we have no intention that this is [TS]

00:23:02   gonna make us like billions of dollars [TS]

00:23:04   we are still in advertising business [TS]

00:23:06   like this show still going to have ants [TS]

00:23:08   on it i'm not going to talk about the [TS]

00:23:10   membership all the time but I don't want [TS]

00:23:11   to mix those two things up too much [TS]

00:23:12   because i don't think that we would make [TS]

00:23:15   enough money to kind of Eclipse that [TS]

00:23:17   anytime soon [TS]

00:23:18   who because that's what our business is [TS]

00:23:20   built on but it felt like something that [TS]

00:23:22   we could do that would get more money [TS]

00:23:25   for all of our hosts which just feels [TS]

00:23:28   like a thing that we would like to do [TS]

00:23:29   and then also maybe you've already [TS]

00:23:32   bought products more of our sponsors who [TS]

00:23:34   so you can't support us in any other way [TS]

00:23:36   and I've heard people say that to all [TS]

00:23:38   they're like I don't want this or I [TS]

00:23:39   don't want that but i do want to support [TS]

00:23:41   you [TS]

00:23:41   well now you can do it it's just like [TS]

00:23:44   another way for us to maybe grow the [TS]

00:23:46   business and get more money for the [TS]

00:23:48   people that work with us and stuff like [TS]

00:23:49   that which is important to me is the one [TS]

00:23:51   of the others business right [TS]

00:23:53   yeah it's your responsibility to grow [TS]

00:23:54   the business owner mm that's a business [TS]

00:23:57   has to do it grows or it dies or or it [TS]

00:24:03   levels off successfully individuality [TS]

00:24:05   but we don't you talk about those [TS]

00:24:07   businesses right a board-certified there [TS]

00:24:09   either infinite growth to the sky right [TS]

00:24:12   or crushing ran to the ground [TS]

00:24:14   so this is part of the this is part of [TS]

00:24:18   the relay dot FM ever upwards business [TS]

00:24:23   growth because otherwise we crash and I [TS]

00:24:25   apparently what are you worried about [TS]

00:24:27   how the sponsors might feel about this [TS]

00:24:29   now because I don't think that it [TS]

00:24:31   attracts from one of the other like [TS]

00:24:34   people can people will spend their money [TS]

00:24:36   and what they want to spend their money [TS]

00:24:37   on and if they want to buy a mattress [TS]

00:24:40   I don't think giving 5,000 month to us [TS]

00:24:42   is going to change their mind buying a [TS]

00:24:43   mattress you-know-who [TS]

00:24:45   so the other thing then is like you [TS]

00:24:48   mentioned very briefly in your spiel but [TS]

00:24:51   the this is you're not going with [TS]

00:24:54   something like patreon is the big player [TS]

00:24:58   in this game now right like what is the [TS]

00:25:01   business reason for not doing something [TS]

00:25:03   like patreon because I mean from my [TS]

00:25:04   perspective it seems like patreon is [TS]

00:25:07   just the easy thing to do right like you [TS]

00:25:09   can just go you sign up and like they [TS]

00:25:11   they kind of handle everything and [TS]

00:25:13   you've sort of built your own thing but [TS]

00:25:16   like why why did you do that instead of [TS]

00:25:20   going with patreon patrons like really [TS]

00:25:22   restrictive for business and size of [TS]

00:25:24   ours I think because if we wanted to [TS]

00:25:27   just do give money to relay FM LLC like [TS]

00:25:31   patron would've made sense we have one [TS]

00:25:33   patreon account we bring all the money [TS]

00:25:35   in and then we even keep it only [TS]

00:25:36   distributed amongst our host that that [TS]

00:25:39   was that's the decision we could have [TS]

00:25:40   could have made but that's not the one [TS]

00:25:42   that we wanted we wanted to have the [TS]

00:25:44   ability for people to give directly to a [TS]

00:25:46   show we have the ability so you can give [TS]

00:25:49   money to all of our shows but when you [TS]

00:25:51   do that which is awesome if you want to [TS]

00:25:52   do that but then the money gets [TS]

00:25:55   distributed amongst everybody and it's [TS]

00:25:56   quite a lot of people so we set it up [TS]

00:25:58   that if you loved one or two shows i [TS]

00:26:00   collect a lot like you really love those [TS]

00:26:02   shows the most you can give your money [TS]

00:26:04   to those and those hoes get more money [TS]

00:26:06   right [TS]

00:26:07   so if we didn't want to set up like 25 [TS]

00:26:08   pages on accounts to do that okay like [TS]

00:26:11   that seems like a nightmare and we [TS]

00:26:14   looked into a bunch of different systems [TS]

00:26:15   and the one that we settled on was the [TS]

00:26:18   one that made the most sense and kind of [TS]

00:26:20   treats everything like its own little [TS]

00:26:22   plan and then we can build it into our [TS]

00:26:24   website and manage it that way [TS]

00:26:26   mm and also like the the patreon system [TS]

00:26:29   with goals and that kind of stuff is not [TS]

00:26:32   really what we wanted to do [TS]

00:26:35   yeah the goal thing on patreon can be a [TS]

00:26:37   bit weird sometimes [TS]

00:26:39   look with the goal to keep doing the [TS]

00:26:41   things yeah exactly and then it's like [TS]

00:26:43   oh we end up at whatever moves patreon [TS]

00:26:47   makes we have to go along with those mm [TS]

00:26:50   so if they're like now you have to have [TS]

00:26:53   seven goals a month that you add [TS]

00:26:55   otherwise it doesn't work anymore and [TS]

00:26:58   like and then they have the whole thing [TS]

00:26:59   you have to publish staff into their [TS]

00:27:01   system for it to trigger the payments [TS]

00:27:03   and it just doesn't scale the way that [TS]

00:27:05   we want to like we don't get to make our [TS]

00:27:07   own decisions but with our system we can [TS]

00:27:10   do whatever we want and we own it all [TS]

00:27:11   which it makes things more complex but [TS]

00:27:14   it allows us to have a starting point [TS]

00:27:16   which is where we are now and we're [TS]

00:27:18   listening to what people are saying and [TS]

00:27:19   we're trying to to grow and adapt it in [TS]

00:27:21   a way that makes the most sense that [TS]

00:27:23   everyone going forward but i think that [TS]

00:27:24   this one was a lot better for us this is [TS]

00:27:27   one show or if we were just taking in [TS]

00:27:30   money just for the business then maybe [TS]

00:27:31   patreon would make more sense but that's [TS]

00:27:34   not the way that we wanted to do it [TS]

00:27:36   it also sounds like this is a bit of the [TS]

00:27:37   platform problem that yeah yearning [TS]

00:27:41   yearning that patreon is now in a weird [TS]

00:27:44   way [TS]

00:27:45   sort of like youtube or any of these [TS]

00:27:47   services where it itself is becoming a [TS]

00:27:50   platform upon which if your business is [TS]

00:27:54   big enough like depending on patreon now [TS]

00:27:56   becomes its own kind of weird problem [TS]

00:28:00   yeah we're a little logic two platforms [TS]

00:28:02   and if we don't need to join one then we [TS]

00:28:05   won't do it and this is a this is [TS]

00:28:08   showing that like we just decided that [TS]

00:28:11   we would build on our own instead right [TS]

00:28:13   so you are you are treating convenience [TS]

00:28:15   for independence excess what's occurring [TS]

00:28:18   here where that is a that is a [TS]

00:28:21   fundamental pillar of my thinking about [TS]

00:28:23   business you can build yourself do it [TS]

00:28:26   because otherwise you you are at the [TS]

00:28:29   mercy of the whims of Industry a right [TS]

00:28:33   but I also i feel the need at this [TS]

00:28:36   moment to just [TS]

00:28:38   it's just a city official i love you [TS]

00:28:42   no no no I'm thinking as is mike mike is [TS]

00:28:45   here talking big about oh you know you [TS]

00:28:48   build it you build it you build that [TS]

00:28:49   it's you know it's good but like haven't [TS]

00:28:51   you had Steven be handling most of this [TS]

00:28:55   behind-the-scenes isn't that the case [TS]

00:28:57   yeah but funny on the business together [TS]

00:28:59   like it's like he's my whipping boy or [TS]

00:29:02   something you own the business together [TS]

00:29:05   but it's also oh yeah we're going to [TS]

00:29:07   build this thing like one person has [TS]

00:29:09   shouldered most of the burden it seems [TS]

00:29:12   like a putting the membership into [TS]

00:29:13   action yeah and I just pop in the night [TS]

00:29:15   before and I'm like change this bit [TS]

00:29:17   change that bit and let you and pretty [TS]

00:29:19   sure he wanted to kill me [TS]

00:29:20   uh-huh but yeah but this is definitely a [TS]

00:29:23   royal we' scenario that wasn't me i just [TS]

00:29:28   had my ideas everything right but yes [TS]

00:29:31   Steven did this like elongated far great [TS]

00:29:34   development team will Jason really is [TS]

00:29:36   not just my curly is mike and Stephen [TS]

00:29:40   and so this is definitely a case of mike [TS]

00:29:43   has an idea like one person has to make [TS]

00:29:46   it actually come into existence which is [TS]

00:29:48   the harder part than thinking of the [TS]

00:29:49   thing i don't know if it was my idea [TS]

00:29:51   even I don't know where it came from i [TS]

00:29:53   think it was just a thing that we [TS]

00:29:54   decided we would do [TS]

00:29:55   waiter might have been even steven idea [TS]

00:29:57   and then Steve work as well not very [TS]

00:29:59   likely yeah what do you do here Mike [TS]

00:30:01   I don't do anything i just talk to you [TS]

00:30:03   for hours that's my contribution that is [TS]

00:30:06   hard work [TS]

00:30:06   to be fair it's called you mentioned a [TS]

00:30:09   moment ago about businesses ever growing [TS]

00:30:11   infinitely like ours is or crashing in a [TS]

00:30:15   fiery death to the ground [TS]

00:30:16   mm that's happened the one that is very [TS]

00:30:19   important to me which mailbox [TS]

00:30:21   oh yeah this was a mailbox was your [TS]

00:30:23   email client of choice back and we did [TS]

00:30:26   our let's talk about all the email [TS]

00:30:28   clients and why they make a sad [TS]

00:30:30   yeah well we we started talking about [TS]

00:30:32   that because i was under the belief that [TS]

00:30:34   this was going to happen and it has now [TS]

00:30:37   happened so dropbox has killed mailbox [TS]

00:30:41   yeah absorbed it absorbed it amoeba-like [TS]

00:30:44   I guess is probably what really happened [TS]

00:30:47   while they're working as they have [TS]

00:30:48   sunsetted it [TS]

00:30:49   oh wow [TS]

00:30:51   oh yeah that a way to say that you do [TS]

00:30:54   the thing lots and lots of people have [TS]

00:30:56   been tweeting and emailing to me about [TS]

00:30:59   this either a letting me know it [TS]

00:31:02   happened right they heard us talk about [TS]

00:31:04   on the show and B which is happening [TS]

00:31:06   more frequently now begging and pleading [TS]

00:31:09   for me to get them a solution please [TS]

00:31:13   help us [TS]

00:31:14   you know that is some kind of starwars [TS]

00:31:16   scenario now right [TS]

00:31:17   I'm i am the peoples only hope at this [TS]

00:31:18   scenario now did this is where we are [TS]

00:31:21   I have to help people see that this kind [TS]

00:31:23   of thing is you're saying right now is [TS]

00:31:25   exactly the sort of overly noble [TS]

00:31:27   viewpoint that I expect people who [TS]

00:31:28   always play the good guys in video games [TS]

00:31:30   to have this like an email client has [TS]

00:31:33   disappeared and mike is viewing himself [TS]

00:31:35   as many peoples only hope for solving [TS]

00:31:38   this problem there's nothing wrong plan [TS]

00:31:40   a good guy video games as many people [TS]

00:31:42   pointed out and many people like me are [TS]

00:31:44   questioning you now as a person who [TS]

00:31:46   likes to play evil people not relevant [TS]

00:31:49   I'm just I'm seeing from your comments [TS]

00:31:51   exactly what i suspected envision [TS]

00:31:53   yourself with wings and a sword [TS]

00:31:55   yeah nothing wrong with trying to be the [TS]

00:31:57   good guy but so anyway Mike are you [TS]

00:31:58   going to solve these people's problem do [TS]

00:32:00   you have a masterful solution for them [TS]

00:32:02   i'm going to tell them what I'm doing [TS]

00:32:04   mmm the features that i want don't exist [TS]

00:32:08   in one app so there is no way for me to [TS]

00:32:11   recreate the system so the recreation is [TS]

00:32:15   in a few different things cross-platform [TS]

00:32:16   snoozing and reordering of email right [TS]

00:32:20   that is like my they were the features [TS]

00:32:22   that I like the most about mailbox there [TS]

00:32:24   is no system that exists right now that [TS]

00:32:27   does all of those things right out of [TS]

00:32:30   everything I've looked at there is no [TS]

00:32:31   other email app I have found that allows [TS]

00:32:35   for manual reordering of email just [TS]

00:32:37   nothing does that so i have to give that [TS]

00:32:39   one up there are lots of different apps [TS]

00:32:41   and services that do snoozing of email [TS]

00:32:44   for example spark the email app that we [TS]

00:32:47   mentioned does that outlook does it [TS]

00:32:50   wasn't there are a few more there there [TS]

00:32:52   are many that allow for email to be [TS]

00:32:53   snooze [TS]

00:32:54   however none of these have a good [TS]

00:32:58   cross-platform solution and when you're [TS]

00:33:01   doing things like snoozing email you [TS]

00:33:02   kind of need to use the same service [TS]

00:33:04   every [TS]

00:33:05   we're because snoozing email is a real [TS]

00:33:07   hockey thing like put into like a hidden [TS]

00:33:09   folder and their weights and moves it [TS]

00:33:11   back to your inbox again it doesn't [TS]

00:33:13   really work very graciously unless you [TS]

00:33:16   use one platform everywhere [TS]

00:33:18   yeah if you use any of these services [TS]

00:33:21   like like when I was trying out the [TS]

00:33:23   whole bunch of different email clients [TS]

00:33:24   to to see which one might work for me [TS]

00:33:26   you learn very quickly like oh I can't [TS]

00:33:29   actually log into gmail and look at the [TS]

00:33:31   folder structure anymore cuz has each [TS]

00:33:34   individual male client is creating its [TS]

00:33:36   own arcane folder structure that it's [TS]

00:33:38   absorbing messages into try to keep [TS]

00:33:40   track of what it views as news messages [TS]

00:33:43   yeah so it's like if you're going to use [TS]

00:33:45   one of these things you really have to [TS]

00:33:48   be all in on it everywhere you have to [TS]

00:33:51   be making the decision that like i am [TS]

00:33:52   going to use mail client x everywhere [TS]

00:33:56   all the time and I'm just not going to [TS]

00:33:59   be able to access my email directly in [TS]

00:34:01   the same way that I used to some [TS]

00:34:03   solutions that I have potentially found [TS]

00:34:06   that i am not using currently our mail [TS]

00:34:09   pilot which we mentioned last time that [TS]

00:34:10   was the one that made me scream and cry [TS]

00:34:12   because they didn't have notifications [TS]

00:34:13   that was a probably my leading contender [TS]

00:34:16   i think in that last show of alternative [TS]

00:34:18   male clients because it seems to do [TS]

00:34:20   everything except that one thing which i [TS]

00:34:21   do really need plus they have their own [TS]

00:34:23   peculiar way of looking at email from [TS]

00:34:27   home which is which would take some [TS]

00:34:28   learning and one of the things that I am [TS]

00:34:30   coming to a conclusion now is to stop [TS]

00:34:33   relying on the service to provide me [TS]

00:34:35   with a new way to look at email because [TS]

00:34:37   it goes away and I have to rethink [TS]

00:34:39   everything which is why I'm going [TS]

00:34:41   through right now people have been [TS]

00:34:44   suggesting SaneBox to me [TS]

00:34:46   same box has a as the part of their [TS]

00:34:48   service is something called sane later [TS]

00:34:51   whether you can snooze email same box [TS]

00:34:53   isn't an app it's just like a service [TS]

00:34:55   that you can do software and they also [TS]

00:34:56   do some like inbox cleaning things which [TS]

00:34:59   I'm always very cautious of but i know a [TS]

00:35:02   lot of people that use same box and it's [TS]

00:35:05   they seem to love it so that's one [TS]

00:35:07   definitely to check out if you are [TS]

00:35:08   looking at it but it is you still need [TS]

00:35:10   apps and stuff like same box is just a [TS]

00:35:12   little layer that sits on top of things [TS]

00:35:14   and then you know you've got some of the [TS]

00:35:17   apps already mentioned like sparkle [TS]

00:35:19   Sparkle working our iPad and a mac [TS]

00:35:21   client which is also that they're [TS]

00:35:22   working on it but it's not here now is [TS]

00:35:24   it so it's not really a solution but [TS]

00:35:25   many peoples and we just use spark it's [TS]

00:35:28   like yeah like they're gonna be cost [TS]

00:35:30   platforms like mhm and not other if [TS]

00:35:34   there's if there's one thing that I have [TS]

00:35:36   learned with software stuff is when [TS]

00:35:39   someone says a feature or a service on a [TS]

00:35:42   platform is coming it's like I'm just [TS]

00:35:44   going to count that as it isn't until [TS]

00:35:47   it's here yet because i had played the [TS]

00:35:49   waiting game and lost too many times do [TS]

00:35:53   i switch to this new thing while they're [TS]

00:35:55   working on their new one and like nope [TS]

00:35:57   it'll never come if you do that just you [TS]

00:35:59   have to evaluate things as they are in [TS]

00:36:01   their current state because you never [TS]

00:36:03   know how long it's going to take to get [TS]

00:36:04   what you're looking for [TS]

00:36:06   so for me personally I've decided that [TS]

00:36:08   my way forward is to have to think about [TS]

00:36:12   email differently again and I need to a [TS]

00:36:15   pro approach it from a more simplistic [TS]

00:36:17   view [TS]

00:36:18   sounds like you're headed towards my [TS]

00:36:20   solution which is the native mail app [TS]

00:36:22   app it's gonna come get you Mike sooner [TS]

00:36:27   or later all my iPhone and my ipad i am [TS]

00:36:30   using outlook [TS]

00:36:32   uh-huh because i like it a lot outlook [TS]

00:36:35   is a great app it has all of the [TS]

00:36:37   standard features that i need like a [TS]

00:36:38   real great integration with services [TS]

00:36:41   like Dropbox and Google Drive so i can [TS]

00:36:42   very easily grab files and attach them [TS]

00:36:44   and it looks really nice and i like it a [TS]

00:36:48   lot it's a great app it has great apple [TS]

00:36:51   watch support I can preview a lot of the [TS]

00:36:53   email from a notification like I really [TS]

00:36:55   like Outlook a lot but outlook on the [TS]

00:36:57   desktop is nowhere near the same [TS]

00:36:59   application microsoft bought a company [TS]

00:37:01   they turned out look they turned that [TS]

00:37:03   app into outlook on iOS and Android but [TS]

00:37:07   their mac app is in need of a lot of [TS]

00:37:09   love because for example outlook does [TS]

00:37:11   scheduling and snoozing of email but it [TS]

00:37:13   doesn't work on a desktop who [TS]

00:37:15   so again i'm not using it and I'm now [TS]

00:37:19   currently I say currently using that [TS]

00:37:24   male the Apple my mac i hate mail [TS]

00:37:27   I hate it so much the thing that I'm [TS]

00:37:29   noticing currently is it's getting stuck [TS]

00:37:32   when I try and do swiping gestures on [TS]

00:37:34   email like you make all of this you make [TS]

00:37:38   the trackpad and makeup yeah why is this [TS]

00:37:42   not working so i'm looking currently at [TS]

00:37:45   some i'm looking at desktop apps right [TS]

00:37:47   now air mail has been one that I've used [TS]

00:37:49   in the past and i'm going to look at [TS]

00:37:51   that again they're making an iphone app [TS]

00:37:52   which it looks incredible but i'm making [TS]

00:37:55   an ipad app so there's another one and [TS]

00:37:58   i'm also looking at them on Alpha for a [TS]

00:38:01   nap which I think anybody can sign up [TS]

00:38:03   for now I haven't I haven't opened it [TS]

00:38:05   yet but it's called Polly mail and it [TS]

00:38:07   looks really really pretty and it's a [TS]

00:38:08   mad man if there's anything I don't want [TS]

00:38:11   to use an alpha or beta for it's [TS]

00:38:13   something that is interacting I an email [TS]

00:38:15   i had that's why i haven't opened it yet [TS]

00:38:17   but it doesn't look really nice but i [TS]

00:38:19   may not put my real family email account [TS]

00:38:21   into their like I might just put my [TS]

00:38:23   personal email account into there right [TS]

00:38:24   now and see what happens [TS]

00:38:26   yeah that sounds like a deal with the [TS]

00:38:27   devil like a look at this beautiful [TS]

00:38:29   attractive female clients but it's going [TS]

00:38:31   to eat everything our civilian which you [TS]

00:38:35   actually might be a great thing you [TS]

00:38:37   should sign for I have no email anymore [TS]

00:38:40   how makes it okay so my other thing is [TS]

00:38:45   like so now it's like well how do I [TS]

00:38:47   think about email differently so now I'm [TS]

00:38:48   trying to just pay attention to the list [TS]

00:38:51   and keep the list small so i'm doing i'm [TS]

00:38:53   setting up a bunch of folders and stuff [TS]

00:38:55   and putting things in folders and hoping [TS]

00:38:57   that it works so like one of the things [TS]

00:38:59   i would you snoozing forward say i had [TS]

00:39:01   feedback for cortex I don't need to look [TS]

00:39:03   at that immediately when it comes in I [TS]

00:39:05   just need to look at it at the days that [TS]

00:39:07   i know i do prep for cortex where so i [TS]

00:39:09   would snooze it to like monday right [TS]

00:39:11   come on monday i do a little bit and do [TS]

00:39:12   it on wednesday and thursday to get [TS]

00:39:14   everything ready for it so I don't need [TS]

00:39:16   to see on on like friday and plus we do [TS]

00:39:19   this every two weeks i said there's a [TS]

00:39:20   whole week where I don't need it in my [TS]

00:39:21   inbox so I used to snooze until that day [TS]

00:39:24   but now i'm setting up folders for the [TS]

00:39:26   shows and putting that [TS]

00:39:27   in the feedback in those folders when it [TS]

00:39:29   comes in and then the plan is to go in [TS]

00:39:32   and look at them and do something with [TS]

00:39:34   them but then there's other things like [TS]

00:39:35   invalid sponsor requests and keeping on [TS]

00:39:37   top of those and having to put those in [TS]

00:39:39   folders and I'm trying to work out like [TS]

00:39:41   at what point is OmniFocus come into [TS]

00:39:43   this and then instead of setting what [TS]

00:39:45   would be a snooze and the email will pop [TS]

00:39:46   up as a reminder when it comes in to [TS]

00:39:49   follow up on an email i'm now starting [TS]

00:39:51   to set OmniFocus ask for it so it's [TS]

00:39:53   basically everything everything and this [TS]

00:39:55   has been a real valuable lesson to me in [TS]

00:39:58   trusting a system which you cannot [TS]

00:40:01   control as a really important part of [TS]

00:40:05   your business because now like if i look [TS]

00:40:06   at this in the right way and approach it [TS]

00:40:08   the right way the system that I'm [TS]

00:40:09   creating i can use with any email [TS]

00:40:12   service and any to do service [TS]

00:40:14   yeah because it's purely reading email [TS]

00:40:16   filing email and setting tasks anything [TS]

00:40:20   can do that where the mailbox once like [TS]

00:40:22   that system became so important to the [TS]

00:40:25   way that I do my stuff that when it goes [TS]

00:40:27   away I'm like lost and have to rethink [TS]

00:40:30   everything which is a situation i don't [TS]

00:40:32   want to find myself in this is this is [TS]

00:40:34   like one of the fundamental problems [TS]

00:40:36   with a lot of computing stuff is you [TS]

00:40:39   want to be all-in on systems or [TS]

00:40:42   particular products really because they [TS]

00:40:44   give you bigger advantages but then [TS]

00:40:46   you're you're at the mercy of them going [TS]

00:40:48   away or changing and so it's like you [TS]

00:40:51   know the the software giveth and [TS]

00:40:54   software take it away right with one [TS]

00:40:55   hand and with the other and and so it's [TS]

00:40:58   just making it just making me think [TS]

00:41:00   maybe she maybe about 10 12 years ago I [TS]

00:41:08   made a very conscious decision that [TS]

00:41:10   everything that I was doing on the [TS]

00:41:12   computer if it was possible to keep it [TS]

00:41:15   as a plain text file i was going to keep [TS]

00:41:18   it as a plain text file like I had come [TS]

00:41:20   out of college and using word documents [TS]

00:41:22   and all these other kinds of things but [TS]

00:41:24   I made a real decision like okay I'm [TS]

00:41:26   going to convert as much to text as [TS]

00:41:28   possible and I still do just a ton of [TS]

00:41:32   stuff as raw text files and that has [TS]

00:41:34   served me very well as various [TS]

00:41:37   particular writing apps [TS]

00:41:39   come and gone or various other ways to [TS]

00:41:42   store data have coming honestly yes but [TS]

00:41:44   txt files remain because they are just [TS]

00:41:47   this very slow-moving will be around [TS]

00:41:49   forever can be read by anything [TS]

00:41:51   structure and and your problem with [TS]

00:41:57   email is a similar thing where it's like [TS]

00:41:58   okay I map which is this which is the [TS]

00:42:00   system behind most emails and imap will [TS]

00:42:03   probably be around for another 50 years [TS]

00:42:06   and so if you can come up with some kind [TS]

00:42:09   of email-based workflow that is around [TS]

00:42:11   imap that reduces you're worried about [TS]

00:42:13   this particular program going away in [TS]

00:42:17   the future and like okay i can i can [TS]

00:42:19   just have my email system because I'm [TS]

00:42:21   trying to build it on the lowest [TS]

00:42:23   possible level but the trade-off there [TS]

00:42:25   is like you don't get the amazing [TS]

00:42:26   features of being all in on one specific [TS]

00:42:29   app but then you're not sad when it's [TS]

00:42:33   sunset at that app even then like even [TS]

00:42:35   not even thinking about imap it's like [TS]

00:42:37   creating a system which is just [TS]

00:42:39   fundamentally what emails about just [TS]

00:42:42   building on that so even if I you moved [TS]

00:42:44   to a different system or if i'm at went [TS]

00:42:46   away and I was like I'm apt to like the [TS]

00:42:49   things I'm doing or trying to do a very [TS]

00:42:52   likely very very likely to still exist [TS]

00:42:53   like receiving emails and filing emails [TS]

00:42:56   is interesting for me because I used to [TS]

00:42:58   be a real purist about how email should [TS]

00:43:01   work and like how people should handle [TS]

00:43:02   email but I've given that up over time [TS]

00:43:05   both as like my my amount of female has [TS]

00:43:08   grown to be unmanageable and also just [TS]

00:43:10   really like man email like the whole [TS]

00:43:12   notion of like receiving messages from [TS]

00:43:14   people and how to sort them like this is [TS]

00:43:16   just an endless topic and it is so [TS]

00:43:19   particular to the individuals who are [TS]

00:43:21   trying to manage it that like there is [TS]

00:43:24   there is no one way to handle this and [TS]

00:43:26   things that might horrify one person [TS]

00:43:28   about the way they do their email are [TS]

00:43:29   exactly what what somebody else needs [TS]

00:43:32   but you have fundamentally if you can [TS]

00:43:34   reduce it to messages are coming in and [TS]

00:43:37   i have a system of folders that they get [TS]

00:43:41   filed into or maybe you have a couple of [TS]

00:43:43   server-side rules that help you filter [TS]

00:43:45   stuff out like that feels like a pretty [TS]

00:43:47   good long-term will be around forever [TS]

00:43:50   kind of solution i wish you luck with [TS]

00:43:52   this [TS]

00:43:53   it seems like it it really cuts you up [TS]

00:43:55   inside [TS]

00:43:56   it does but I tell you what the this [TS]

00:43:58   show has really helped me in dealing [TS]

00:44:00   with this like this therapeutic for you [TS]

00:44:02   well know just not this episode like [TS]

00:44:04   this show in general like thinking more [TS]

00:44:05   about the way I do things and talking to [TS]

00:44:07   you about your system when this happened [TS]

00:44:09   I was like okay I now know what you need [TS]

00:44:12   to do which is as you're right like what [TS]

00:44:15   you do make it very simple and then [TS]

00:44:17   maybe the next step is getting somebody [TS]

00:44:18   to just look after my email for me so I [TS]

00:44:20   never need to read it in first place [TS]

00:44:21   right method that my email system now is [TS]

00:44:25   I ignore it for weeks and weeks until my [TS]

00:44:27   personal assistant tells me that there's [TS]

00:44:29   something that really needs my attention [TS]

00:44:30   i'm very excited because this week's [TS]

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00:45:16   oh yes you heard that right my favorite [TS]

00:45:19   thing beard oil is now at need and have [TS]

00:45:23   a fantastic one that they are selected [TS]

00:45:25   the you to rub into that lovely face of [TS]

00:45:27   yours and it's called tree Ranger beard [TS]

00:45:30   oil tree Ranger you can let out that in [TS]

00:45:33   a woodsman inside of you or just the [TS]

00:45:35   hipster in you like I do right so this [TS]

00:45:37   is oil right but it's not going to make [TS]

00:45:39   your beard feel or greasy tree Ranger [TS]

00:45:41   has been designed to keep your beard [TS]

00:45:44   well-conditioned shiny and smelling [TS]

00:45:46   great it's going to be like you've just [TS]

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00:45:52   bearded person like me [TS]

00:45:53   this is something that you should be [TS]

00:45:55   adding to your Christmas list this year [TS]

00:45:56   because gray it really does make a big [TS]

00:46:00   difference need agree of me too [TS]

00:46:02   they even told me to say that so you [TS]

00:46:04   know I hope you listen to this mr. grey [TS]

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00:46:42   this show and for giving me the chance [TS]

00:46:44   to talk about beard oil again i want to [TS]

00:46:47   tell our listeners a very short story [TS]

00:46:50   ok after our last episode you sent me a [TS]

00:46:55   text message or an iMessage i should say [TS]

00:46:58   and you said to me you know when do you [TS]

00:47:00   think you have the Edit on them [TS]

00:47:01   I told you when I thought I was gonna [TS]

00:47:02   get it done and you like great I might [TS]

00:47:05   be a little bit less responsive than [TS]

00:47:07   usual because I've decided I'm going on [TS]

00:47:09   a trip and I said you where are you [TS]

00:47:12   going and you said i don't know i'm [TS]

00:47:14   going to the train station [TS]

00:47:16   I'm like a leaf on the wind this is the [TS]

00:47:18   exact conversation that we had and then [TS]

00:47:21   you went away for a few days i was very [TS]

00:47:24   confused by all of this the the idea of [TS]

00:47:27   you just your friend we have travel is [TS]

00:47:30   sharing to travel it's like a time when [TS]

00:47:33   I most stressed and prepared [TS]

00:47:35   you seem to just not care about it like [TS]

00:47:37   the whole flying standby stuff and now [TS]

00:47:41   you're just going to a train station and [TS]

00:47:43   getting on a train that you don't even [TS]

00:47:44   know what you where you going hmm so you [TS]

00:47:47   went on a little trip and so what was [TS]

00:47:49   this trip [TS]

00:47:50   yeah yeah i did i did go on a bit of an [TS]

00:47:53   unexpected trip so the listeners of the [TS]

00:47:58   show we'll know very well that normally [TS]

00:48:00   normally what I do after videos this is [TS]

00:48:03   right after the last video without [TS]

00:48:04   normally my plan is that I take a day or [TS]

00:48:07   two off and I just kind of edge out and [TS]

00:48:09   I just play video games and I don't [TS]

00:48:10   really do very much and that's just [TS]

00:48:11   that's just my down time to recover from [TS]

00:48:13   video production and we spoke about this [TS]

00:48:15   last time but i don't know if you [TS]

00:48:16   remember any [TS]

00:48:17   from the episode yeah FML i'm just i'm [TS]

00:48:20   just setting the stage like that's [TS]

00:48:22   normally what I would do [TS]

00:48:23   ok but for a for a variety of reasons it [TS]

00:48:27   wasn't possible to do this time I still [TS]

00:48:29   had too much to do but i was also just [TS]

00:48:31   kind of still feeling like I'm just I'm [TS]

00:48:34   overwhelmed but i also need to just [TS]

00:48:35   recover a little bit like I can't just [TS]

00:48:37   take a couple days off what am I gonna [TS]

00:48:38   do so what I ended up deciding to do at [TS]

00:48:41   the very last moment was like okay I am [TS]

00:48:44   going to take a working vacation right [TS]

00:48:48   now and I'm going to figure out what are [TS]

00:48:52   the working things that I can delay [TS]

00:48:55   what are the working things that I [TS]

00:48:57   cannot delay and I'm just going to go [TS]

00:49:01   somewhere else so that it's like my [TS]

00:49:03   brain has this feeling of like okay [TS]

00:49:05   things are different like this is nice [TS]

00:49:07   and i'm going to just work on the [TS]

00:49:09   limited number of things that I need to [TS]

00:49:11   work on so I packed my microphone [TS]

00:49:14   because i need to record some podcast [TS]

00:49:16   ads which I had not done ahead of time I [TS]

00:49:19   packed my laptop I packed my ipad pro [TS]

00:49:21   which we might talk about later and i [TS]

00:49:23   headed to the train station and I [TS]

00:49:26   eventually just ended up in Amsterdam at [TS]

00:49:29   a nice hotel not stay there for a while [TS]

00:49:32   why is that funny to you Mike but i [TS]

00:49:37   ended up like that that's the phrase [TS]

00:49:40   like I thought you were gonna go to like [TS]

00:49:41   warm earth or something like you know I [TS]

00:49:43   think they did you just get experience I [TS]

00:49:46   don't know somewhere in the north [TS]

00:49:47   maybe who knows that explains nobody [TS]

00:49:50   knows where it is but you know I just [TS]

00:49:52   like I go there and that's where i am [TS]

00:49:54   going to be and I'm just kidding i'll be [TS]

00:49:56   able to take me like an hour together [TS]

00:49:57   like ending up in Amsterdam is is quite [TS]

00:49:59   a big undertaking you had to [TS]

00:50:04   did you have your possible with you even [TS]

00:50:05   did you take that [TS]

00:50:07   yeah yeah i took my passport didn't know [TS]

00:50:09   where you were going to be right like so [TS]

00:50:10   being outside of the country that the [TS]

00:50:14   long and short of it is that i was [TS]

00:50:16   combining this with a visit to a friend [TS]

00:50:20   who was in Germany and so I didn't know [TS]

00:50:23   that I was going to be heading out of [TS]

00:50:25   the UK so I did bring my passport so [TS]

00:50:28   that's why I had that ahead of [TS]

00:50:29   almost is in the south by the way what's [TS]

00:50:32   in the south [TS]

00:50:32   yeah it's like on the coast it's the [TS]

00:50:34   cards in Scotland know something self so [TS]

00:50:37   it sounds like an old coal mining town [TS]

00:50:39   but I guess it isn't already said Warren [TS]

00:50:42   sorry full month [TS]

00:50:43   yeah sorry not really but just don't [TS]

00:50:45   know anything about you but yeah so [TS]

00:50:48   that's that's just that's just how this [TS]

00:50:49   ended up working and so yeah I even [TS]

00:50:51   though I mean the thing is I didn't it [TS]

00:50:53   didn't really matter where I went [TS]

00:50:54   because I spent most of my time indoors [TS]

00:50:56   at a hotel [TS]

00:50:58   I think editing cortex and editing hello [TS]

00:51:01   internet and doing a bunch of [TS]

00:51:02   administrative related work but yeah [TS]

00:51:06   well it was a good thing it was a good [TS]

00:51:07   thing to do and it's something I haven't [TS]

00:51:11   I haven't done it recently but [TS]

00:51:13   particularly particularly when I was [TS]

00:51:16   still working as a teacher and also [TS]

00:51:19   trying to do stuff on the side I as [TS]

00:51:23   somewhat regularly did these things that [TS]

00:51:25   my wife and I came to refer to as hotel [TS]

00:51:28   weekends where if I had just a lot to do [TS]

00:51:31   i found it much easier to change [TS]

00:51:34   locations go to a place that is just [TS]

00:51:38   like a self-contained unit in the way a [TS]

00:51:41   hotel is and so that is like I have [TS]

00:51:43   nothing really to worry about except [TS]

00:51:45   just the work that i have brought with [TS]

00:51:47   me and it's very easy to focus on this [TS]

00:51:49   and I don't have any of the [TS]

00:51:51   responsibilities of normal life like oh [TS]

00:51:53   my gonna take out the trash like oh now [TS]

00:51:55   i need to do the laundry as I know [TS]

00:51:56   everything that i need is just here and [TS]

00:51:59   so it's easy to focus on this stuff and [TS]

00:52:01   so yes that's what I did for I think [TS]

00:52:04   three days four days in the end in [TS]

00:52:06   amsterdam for finishing up the trip and [TS]

00:52:08   it was lovely when you're on [TS]

00:52:10   yeah it was just me kind of dumbfounded [TS]

00:52:15   by all really oh yeah i mean what's [TS]

00:52:19   what's dumbfounding about it seems quite [TS]

00:52:21   reasonable to me [TS]

00:52:22   yeah but there's just some things you do [TS]

00:52:24   I am death [TS]

00:52:25   they're so out of character and i know [TS]

00:52:27   that you know your character right so [TS]

00:52:29   that sounds like a weird thing to say [TS]

00:52:31   yeah it's not out of character because I [TS]

00:52:32   did it yeah well now it's part of your [TS]

00:52:34   character but before I don't think [TS]

00:52:37   anybody would guess that you would do [TS]

00:52:38   something like this [TS]

00:52:40   because I certainly didn't yeah well I [TS]

00:52:43   mean is this is probably the first time [TS]

00:52:45   I have [TS]

00:52:47   well it's not really sure I was gonna [TS]

00:52:49   say probably the first time I've gone [TS]

00:52:50   somewhere without a clear destination [TS]

00:52:52   but then again like I used to road trip [TS]

00:52:53   across america and that's the entire the [TS]

00:52:55   winter road trip is like I'm vaguely [TS]

00:52:57   heading west and I don't really know [TS]

00:52:59   where I'm going to go but it's it seems [TS]

00:53:02   it seems very reasonable thing seems [TS]

00:53:04   reasonable to me [TS]

00:53:05   yeah thanks i just i find it is a useful [TS]

00:53:07   tool to be separated from your normal [TS]

00:53:11   routine and to be able to focus on an [TS]

00:53:13   amount of work and so it for me it is an [TS]

00:53:16   interesting combination of this is more [TS]

00:53:20   relaxing the normal life which is kind [TS]

00:53:22   of what I needed right after the video [TS]

00:53:24   but i am still able to focus on the work [TS]

00:53:28   that needs to get done so was it was a [TS]

00:53:30   productive like working vacation kind of [TS]

00:53:34   thing that I ended up doing that was the [TS]

00:53:36   trip i recommend it to try people [TS]

00:53:39   yeah wish I could but a lot of my work [TS]

00:53:41   requires a lot of audio equipment and [TS]

00:53:44   that's not so easy to move around i [TS]

00:53:47   brought my microphone with me it's easy [TS]

00:53:49   plug it in here but you sounded super [TS]

00:53:51   weird in the room that you're and that's [TS]

00:53:53   true i didn't sound very weird in the [TS]

00:53:54   room that I was in what I actually need [TS]

00:53:56   to bring us some soundproofing equipment [TS]

00:53:58   and then how do you bring that you know [TS]

00:54:00   okay I am rapidly realizing that maybe [TS]

00:54:03   this is not as as possible for you as I [TS]

00:54:05   was originally expecting yeah I mean I [TS]

00:54:08   guess you were traveling at the same [TS]

00:54:09   time that i was traveling and I believe [TS]

00:54:12   did you record any podcasts while you [TS]

00:54:14   were gone I recorded one but it was a [TS]

00:54:17   special episode like it was i recorded [TS]

00:54:19   top-four will man identified with tiff [TS]

00:54:22   amaka ok but that doesn't count because [TS]

00:54:25   Marco must have sound rooms in his house [TS]

00:54:28   somewhere like he's a little obsessed [TS]

00:54:30   with audio so he would be all ready to [TS]

00:54:31   go for a guest [TS]

00:54:32   yeah he had enough microphones and they [TS]

00:54:34   were all good quality microphones and [TS]

00:54:36   write all the leftovers from his reviews [TS]

00:54:38   that he does [TS]

00:54:39   yep just laying around mark has got [TS]

00:54:42   microphones like I've got ipads he was [TS]

00:54:44   tricking me the because I now have all [TS]

00:54:47   new audio equipment [TS]

00:54:49   ok [TS]

00:54:50   he gave me a microphone to use very [TS]

00:54:53   specifically and then play it back to me [TS]

00:54:54   and I splice and fantastic so I've been [TS]

00:54:57   spent hundreds and hundreds of pounds [TS]

00:54:59   but yeah well to answer your question I [TS]

00:55:03   didn't recording shows and i'm away [TS]

00:55:05   before i go away like that everything's [TS]

00:55:07   done advanced who so I precor so I can't [TS]

00:55:10   just be that leaf on the wind that you [TS]

00:55:12   are that free spirit you know your whole [TS]

00:55:15   business you're building a little kids [TS]

00:55:16   around yourself that's what that's [TS]

00:55:17   what's happening here you know all these [TS]

00:55:19   all these shows that you have to record [TS]

00:55:21   at specific times you can't go anywhere [TS]

00:55:23   otherwise it's a it's a big deal if you [TS]

00:55:25   leave an ethical a cage exactly look [TS]

00:55:31   very strong metaphor haha at from my [TS]

00:55:35   dream job [TS]

00:55:36   ok have you do you think it's an [TS]

00:55:38   intentionally provocative metaphor maybe [TS]

00:55:40   I think it might be now I would never do [TS]

00:55:42   such a thing [TS]

00:55:43   mhm you mentioned the ipad pro now you [TS]

00:55:48   spoke about it a little bit in your [TS]

00:55:49   general interest podcast on hello [TS]

00:55:52   Internet Brady was wanting to know if [TS]

00:55:53   you should buy a ipad pro so we [TS]

00:55:56   mentioned it in in brief on there i just [TS]

00:56:00   figured if if we're calling this one the [TS]

00:56:02   fetish podcast then that one is the [TS]

00:56:05   general interest podcast Oh American I [TS]

00:56:09   feel like I feel like I'm not getting [TS]

00:56:11   involved in this [TS]

00:56:11   that's what's happening here I have no [TS]

00:56:13   comment on this yeah I feel like [TS]

00:56:14   especially stay out of it [TS]

00:56:16   yeah so you you know you were talking [TS]

00:56:21   about it a little bit there but this was [TS]

00:56:22   many weeks ago but I could tell because [TS]

00:56:25   you said you didn't have a pencil then [TS]

00:56:26   which I know that you do now because we [TS]

00:56:29   we both had them like i have i have the [TS]

00:56:31   keyboard now too so we both kind of [TS]

00:56:32   fully equipped yeah that's the timing of [TS]

00:56:35   this is interesting because we didn't [TS]

00:56:37   really discuss the ipad pro or the Apple [TS]

00:56:40   pencil on the last episode of cortex [TS]

00:56:43   no we left it out even though at the [TS]

00:56:45   time of that recording i already had the [TS]

00:56:48   Apple pencil because I specifically [TS]

00:56:50   didn't want to do what kind of like oh [TS]

00:56:52   here's my first impressions of of the [TS]

00:56:54   thing because i was viewing this as this [TS]

00:56:57   is a tool that I need to figure out if [TS]

00:57:00   it integrates into my workflow both for [TS]

00:57:03   the ipad pro [TS]

00:57:04   the end for the Apple pencil and so we [TS]

00:57:06   didn't talk about it last time on [TS]

00:57:07   purpose because i wanted to let it [TS]

00:57:09   simmer for awhile and try to see like [TS]

00:57:12   where does this fit how well does this [TS]

00:57:14   work not just like who i tried it out [TS]

00:57:16   and I can sign my name [TS]

00:57:18   how does this actually fit into into my [TS]

00:57:20   life and into my work so yes now we're [TS]

00:57:23   going to talk about ipad pro and Apple [TS]

00:57:26   pencil like what is it three weeks on [TS]

00:57:29   three and a half weeks on something like [TS]

00:57:31   that so you I assume you said you took [TS]

00:57:34   it with you on your trip [TS]

00:57:36   how much were you using it yeah so this [TS]

00:57:39   is a this was very fortuitous timing [TS]

00:57:41   that I got to pencil in time for my trip [TS]

00:57:45   to Amsterdam and I had the keyboard and [TS]

00:57:47   I had everything and I think the theme [TS]

00:57:52   of this conversation can be summarized [TS]

00:57:55   by how I felt packing which was [TS]

00:57:59   oh boy i'm packing this ipad pro and [TS]

00:58:01   unpacking the keyboard case cover and I [TS]

00:58:04   got my pencil in my pocket isn't isn't [TS]

00:58:06   this exciting and then I look over and [TS]

00:58:08   on the floor is like oh right and [TS]

00:58:10   there's you 15-inch macbook pro yeah [TS]

00:58:15   yup that was how I felt going to New [TS]

00:58:16   York because i was like this will be the [TS]

00:58:19   first time something comes up right [TS]

00:58:24   yeah the macbook pro felt like this [TS]

00:58:27   total brick of obligation that I had to [TS]

00:58:32   bring with me I oh well I'm going to be [TS]

00:58:36   editing podcasts and so everything is [TS]

00:58:39   already in logic and so I have to bring [TS]

00:58:42   this laptop with me and also i'm [TS]

00:58:45   bringing the microphone and I just don't [TS]

00:58:47   want to figure out how to record it for [TS]

00:58:48   the first time on the ipad pro so it's [TS]

00:58:51   like you're comin with me laptop and the [TS]

00:58:53   laptop is also always the like you said [TS]

00:58:56   that the device of last resort that [TS]

00:58:57   sometimes you run into a weird problem [TS]

00:58:59   where there's something you just can't [TS]

00:59:01   do on the ipad it's like AI gotta bring [TS]

00:59:03   out the laptop but it was it was just [TS]

00:59:07   quite quite striking this feeling that [TS]

00:59:10   I've never really had before I like it [TS]

00:59:13   always previously felt like my ipad is [TS]

00:59:15   an accessory to my lap [TS]

00:59:17   about the laptop was obviously the main [TS]

00:59:19   thing and this trip was the first time [TS]

00:59:21   it felt so clearly reverse like [TS]

00:59:23   everything I wanted to do i was doing on [TS]

00:59:27   the ipad pro and then the macbook was [TS]

00:59:31   just like oh right I'm gonna go back to [TS]

00:59:33   my hotel room and sit at a desk and use [TS]

00:59:36   this thing for a while [TS]

00:59:38   it's a real it's a real shifting moment [TS]

00:59:41   I think having this ipad pro and having [TS]

00:59:44   worked with it for a while [TS]

00:59:45   couldn't agree more like I am finding [TS]

00:59:48   more and more that i am using my iPad [TS]

00:59:52   pro over my imank who and then my imac [TS]

00:59:56   is like need to do the recording now or [TS]

00:59:59   like need to do the [TS]

00:59:59   like need to do the [TS]

01:00:00   addressing now and I sit down at it or [TS]

01:00:02   there might be some specific task that I [TS]

01:00:03   need to do but more often than not i am [TS]

01:00:07   i'm working on my iPad pro like today I [TS]

01:00:10   i woke up a little later than normal i [TS]

01:00:12   woke up at like 10 and we were recording [TS]

01:00:17   until like three o'clock and i sat down [TS]

01:00:20   in front of my imac at three o'clock but [TS]

01:00:23   I've been working all day [TS]

01:00:24   mhm so from the moment like from 10 to [TS]

01:00:26   3i was working and I was doing it all my [TS]

01:00:30   ipad pro yeah i've been i've been trying [TS]

01:00:33   to think about how to express this [TS]

01:00:35   feeling that I've had increasingly [TS]

01:00:37   towards my OSX devices but that with the [TS]

01:00:43   ipad pro is really crystallized and and [TS]

01:00:45   what is it feels like every machine in [TS]

01:00:48   my house that runs OSX so whether it's [TS]

01:00:51   my imac or whether it's my laptop they [TS]

01:00:56   feel to me [TS]

01:00:57   increasingly like like how the toaster [TS]

01:01:02   feels or how the refrigerator feels like [TS]

01:01:05   it's it's a machine that is there to do [TS]

01:01:10   a specific job but it's not something in [TS]

01:01:14   a way that i am particularly interested [TS]

01:01:16   in or excited about you familiar with [TS]

01:01:20   the cars and trucks metaphor and I mean [TS]

01:01:23   vaguely but give me the give me like the [TS]

01:01:25   rundown of this is this new job thing [TS]

01:01:27   right [TS]

01:01:27   yeah and he was talking about tablet [TS]

01:01:29   computers like Ambrose the ipad and what [TS]

01:01:32   they might do some day 22 desktop [TS]

01:01:34   machines and saying that there are [TS]

01:01:36   people that will always need trucks and [TS]

01:01:39   they are pcs right because they do [TS]

01:01:42   specific things and they're very [TS]

01:01:45   powerful and you need them for very [TS]

01:01:47   specific reasons so things that only the [TS]

01:01:49   trucks can do but some people own trucks [TS]

01:01:52   when they don't actually need trucks and [TS]

01:01:54   they'd be better off of a car which is [TS]

01:01:56   the ipad and eventually a lot of those [TS]

01:01:59   truck people will realize that they can [TS]

01:02:01   be car people [TS]

01:02:05   yeah I'm not sure you think I'm not sure [TS]

01:02:08   that metaphor i can see what he's going [TS]

01:02:09   for and it's very like Steve Jobs kind [TS]

01:02:11   of thing to say she's always like [TS]

01:02:14   pooh-poohing the last thing that they've [TS]

01:02:16   just done and talking about how exciting [TS]

01:02:17   the new thing that they're doing is I [TS]

01:02:19   think the reason that i am i'm not quite [TS]

01:02:21   going along with that is i am really [TS]

01:02:23   aware of how all of the most interesting [TS]

01:02:28   and also all of the most important work [TS]

01:02:32   that I do i do on iOS now and the ipad [TS]

01:02:37   pro feels like it is really the like the [TS]

01:02:41   final nail in the coffin that has has [TS]

01:02:44   turned OSX machines from like Oh general [TS]

01:02:47   purpose exciting computer to pure [TS]

01:02:50   utility alright what's interesting and [TS]

01:02:53   exciting work then because I mean you [TS]

01:02:54   create your videos and recording [TS]

01:02:56   podcasts on s10 so when I'm thinking [TS]

01:02:58   about my business [TS]

01:02:59   the videos are the core of my business [TS]

01:03:03   they are there what brings in the most [TS]

01:03:05   money they are what consumes the largest [TS]

01:03:07   part of my time and attention and to [TS]

01:03:11   that end as we've discussed many times [TS]

01:03:12   the writing and the research is the [TS]

01:03:16   biggest part of that and so that is what [TS]

01:03:18   i am doing on my iPad all the time and [TS]

01:03:22   we can talk about it in a little bit [TS]

01:03:24   like the Apple pencil has really changed [TS]

01:03:26   some things with the way that I do the [TS]

01:03:28   writing workflow but so considering that [TS]

01:03:32   that that is where my time and attention [TS]

01:03:34   goes that's why I spend so much time and [TS]

01:03:38   attention on iOS as opposed to OSX and [TS]

01:03:43   so it's like I was thinking about my [TS]

01:03:46   office earlier today and which I am [TS]

01:03:48   sitting in right now which is where I [TS]

01:03:49   record a podcast so just like now it's [TS]

01:03:51   cortex week so I sit down and recording [TS]

01:03:54   cortex with you and I come into my [TS]

01:03:55   office to do that or you next week I'm [TS]

01:03:58   going to record hello internet with [TS]

01:03:59   Brady so I come in here and I sit down [TS]

01:04:01   and I do that and then realizing like [TS]

01:04:05   okay but what other times do I sit down [TS]

01:04:07   my computer when I have a big animation [TS]

01:04:09   week to come in [TS]

01:04:10   that's when I come in and I sit down at [TS]

01:04:12   my computer but I sort of realized that [TS]

01:04:14   i have this office in my new apartment [TS]

01:04:17   she's two years old now which we'll get [TS]

01:04:19   to in a second but I have this office [TS]

01:04:22   that the centerpiece of it is this big [TS]

01:04:25   retina iMac which takes up essentially [TS]

01:04:28   the whole desk when I realized that I [TS]

01:04:31   spend relatively speaking very few of my [TS]

01:04:34   working hours sitting at this desk in [TS]

01:04:37   front of the computer and the reason for [TS]

01:04:40   that is because there's no space on this [TS]

01:04:42   desk to also use my iPad so I'm always [TS]

01:04:45   somewhere else there's like a kitchen [TS]

01:04:47   table in our in our apartment that I'm [TS]

01:04:49   very often finding myself sitting at [TS]

01:04:51   during the day because I'd rather be [TS]

01:04:53   working on an iPad then the gigantic [TS]

01:04:56   computer which seems like it should be [TS]

01:04:58   the thing that I'm working on which is [TS]

01:05:00   now 15 feet away [TS]

01:05:02   I just think that is a really [TS]

01:05:04   interesting shift and like what what I [TS]

01:05:07   was even thinking of is we've been [TS]

01:05:09   toying with the idea of possibly moving [TS]

01:05:11   into a new apartment at some point in [TS]

01:05:15   the near ish future and I was thinking [TS]

01:05:18   about planning out what my office would [TS]

01:05:21   be like if I could have a slightly [TS]

01:05:22   bigger space and I realized like oh I [TS]

01:05:25   think I know what I would do if I had a [TS]

01:05:26   bigger office i would take the desk that [TS]

01:05:30   I am sitting at now which is like the [TS]

01:05:31   centerpiece of my current office and put [TS]

01:05:35   it up against some side of that room and [TS]

01:05:39   just leave it as the machine where I go [TS]

01:05:42   to do very specific kinds of work [TS]

01:05:45   sometimes and i would get a bigger desk [TS]

01:05:48   with nothing on it that that would be [TS]

01:05:52   where i would actually spend most of my [TS]

01:05:54   time working because that's where i [TS]

01:05:56   could sit with an ipad and I just I [TS]

01:06:00   think that is a phenomenal change to me [TS]

01:06:02   that I am even considering relegating my [TS]

01:06:06   computer to side of the room [TS]

01:06:10   non central focus for work like I find [TS]

01:06:13   it amazing that i have come to that [TS]

01:06:15   point and and pass me would never have [TS]

01:06:17   guessed that that that would even be [TS]

01:06:19   something I would consider i find myself [TS]

01:06:21   frequently wishing that my work wasn't [TS]

01:06:27   tied to OS 10 [TS]

01:06:29   mm because i have to make all of these [TS]

01:06:33   considerations like I didn't want to [TS]

01:06:35   take my laptop with me on that trip [TS]

01:06:37   right but i had to because i had some [TS]

01:06:39   shows to finish and even if i didn't [TS]

01:06:41   have shows to finish i would be worried [TS]

01:06:43   that if something came up and I need to [TS]

01:06:46   do something with an audio file that I [TS]

01:06:48   could grab it really easily and just go [TS]

01:06:50   into the workforce that i need and have [TS]

01:06:51   all of the apps that i need and it be as [TS]

01:06:53   simple as I need you meant there are [TS]

01:06:54   stuff starting to pop up for iOS now [TS]

01:06:57   that can do some of this stuff but it's [TS]

01:07:00   not seasoned enough yet for me now i [TS]

01:07:04   need to see that that stuff has been [TS]

01:07:06   around for a long time is being added to [TS]

01:07:08   that kind of stuff before I think about [TS]

01:07:09   going to there because i use logic as [TS]

01:07:12   we've mentioned but if logic explodes [TS]

01:07:14   and goes away [TS]

01:07:15   there are other options that i can go to [TS]

01:07:16   who it's we haven't got to that point on [TS]

01:07:19   iOS yet but I expect it will be at some [TS]

01:07:22   point and then maybe I can think [TS]

01:07:25   differently about it again but right now [TS]

01:07:27   that's where I am because I would like [TS]

01:07:30   to i would like to pull a federally [TS]

01:07:33   cover teaching and just always work on [TS]

01:07:36   iOS because all of my favorite apps on [TS]

01:07:39   iOS like and I don't mean like Tweetbot [TS]

01:07:43   saying like always also iOS just like my [TS]

01:07:47   favorite versions of all of my favorite [TS]

01:07:49   apps also an iOS as well like I prefer [TS]

01:07:52   the iOS versions of stuff to anything [TS]

01:07:54   else and i really like like yesterday I [TS]

01:07:59   went to my co-working space and I had a [TS]

01:08:02   bunch of stuff that I needed to do that [TS]

01:08:04   day like it was a real big like 2016 [TS]

01:08:07   planning day that I knew who take care [TS]

01:08:08   of who and I threw caution to the wind [TS]

01:08:12   and I picked up my ipad pro I put in my [TS]

01:08:14   bag and left who i was like i'm staying [TS]

01:08:17   out of the house I have to do everything [TS]

01:08:19   I need to do today on my iPad and I [TS]

01:08:22   worked for like six hours and got a ton [TS]

01:08:25   of stuff done and i was able to do it [TS]

01:08:28   all on my iPad pro with my pencil and my [TS]

01:08:30   keyboard and it felt really great and I [TS]

01:08:34   knew when I was doing it that i know a [TS]

01:08:36   lot of my friends that could not have [TS]

01:08:38   coped with what i was doing who because [TS]

01:08:41   it is so far away from [TS]

01:08:42   whether they do things some things were [TS]

01:08:44   a little bit more difficult but some [TS]

01:08:46   things way easier but the whole thing [TS]

01:08:48   was more enjoyable [TS]

01:08:50   yeah that that's definitely something [TS]

01:08:52   that is hard to articulate but iOS to me [TS]

01:09:01   is a much more enjoyable user experience [TS]

01:09:05   even with some of the stuff that's like [TS]

01:09:07   a little clumsy sometimes where yes it [TS]

01:09:09   is it's a bit awkward sometimes to do [TS]

01:09:11   some things on iOS but the whole of it [TS]

01:09:14   is just more enjoyable to use even when [TS]

01:09:19   you're doing things that you don't [TS]

01:09:21   really like to do right and and I think [TS]

01:09:25   part of what makes OSX feel like it's a [TS]

01:09:28   real utility is quite naturally like [TS]

01:09:31   this slowing pace of development and [TS]

01:09:33   change for it like it is solidifying [TS]

01:09:37   over time more into like this is what we [TS]

01:09:40   understand a computer to be in the same [TS]

01:09:42   way as like microwaves or there's not a [TS]

01:09:44   huge amount of revolution in microwave [TS]

01:09:47   interfaces like okay we all understand [TS]

01:09:49   where it is and how these buttons work [TS]

01:09:52   and so it's just not going to change all [TS]

01:09:55   that much [TS]

01:09:56   where's the ipad pro plus the latest [TS]

01:09:59   version of iOS there's no other way to [TS]

01:10:03   put it [TS]

01:10:04   this feels like and is the future of [TS]

01:10:08   computing it is just I think there is no [TS]

01:10:11   argument about that and and I i am just [TS]

01:10:17   drawn to it as the platform to do as [TS]

01:10:20   much on it as i possibly can and who one [TS]

01:10:24   of the big things holding me back now [TS]

01:10:26   aside from the podcast which will [TS]

01:10:28   probably i will be doing on a computer [TS]

01:10:31   for a long time coming if not simply [TS]

01:10:34   because i have finally learned how to [TS]

01:10:35   cobble it together with logic and I [TS]

01:10:37   don't feel like learning a new program [TS]

01:10:39   for that like I just want to get it done [TS]

01:10:40   fast but one of the things that's [TS]

01:10:43   holding me back [TS]

01:10:44   going back to our earlier conversation [TS]

01:10:46   about waiting for software is I am [TS]

01:10:48   waiting for someone to come out with the [TS]

01:10:51   first fully capable vector drawing [TS]

01:10:55   program [TS]

01:10:55   for iOS like there's some things that [TS]

01:10:58   kind of work around the edges but [TS]

01:11:00   there's there's nothing that is what i [TS]

01:11:02   need in order to do the animations for [TS]

01:11:04   the videos but i can say like man as [TS]

01:11:08   soon as Adobe decides that they're the [TS]

01:11:11   one who's going to come out with their [TS]

01:11:13   full version of illustrator on the ipad [TS]

01:11:15   or I forget i'll try to find it for the [TS]

01:11:18   show notes but there's another company [TS]

01:11:19   that looks like it's making a very nice [TS]

01:11:21   full-featured vector drawing program [TS]

01:11:24   that can I imagine myself sitting at my [TS]

01:11:29   new desk in a new apartment with just a [TS]

01:11:31   big ipad in front of me doing the [TS]

01:11:34   drawings that way [TS]

01:11:35   yeah I sure can see that as as the [TS]

01:11:37   future and the alternative to doing it [TS]

01:11:39   on my big computer you'd still probably [TS]

01:11:42   be using final cut tho to put it [TS]

01:11:44   together in the same way that you happy [TS]

01:11:47   to use and will continue to use logic [TS]

01:11:49   yeah that's exactly right like Final Cut [TS]

01:11:52   final cut is a program I actually quite [TS]

01:11:54   like and I'm always a little bit sad [TS]

01:11:56   that i actually use Final Cut very [TS]

01:11:59   little like what by when I do all the [TS]

01:12:01   animations when the audio is all done [TS]

01:12:04   it's just a matter of of like lining [TS]

01:12:06   that stuff up and in final cut and I [TS]

01:12:08   mean I you know I can do that in like an [TS]

01:12:11   hour when all the the audio and [TS]

01:12:13   animations are done so that like that is [TS]

01:12:15   just the again getting back to it like [TS]

01:12:17   this is the utility part like this is [TS]

01:12:19   just a little grinding mechanical thing [TS]

01:12:21   I guess lineup this this animation [TS]

01:12:25   transition when I say this word but it's [TS]

01:12:27   it's not the interesting and important [TS]

01:12:31   work which is creating the illustrations [TS]

01:12:35   in the first place which is also hugely [TS]

01:12:37   time-consuming like that's that's what i [TS]

01:12:41   mean by this new platform being [TS]

01:12:43   interesting and the ipad pro as as being [TS]

01:12:47   really a big enough screen to really [TS]

01:12:52   make it feel like [TS]

01:12:54   quite quite the working device you [TS]

01:12:57   mentioned you want to get a big desk [TS]

01:12:59   mhm now the ipad pro is smaller than [TS]

01:13:02   your computer [TS]

01:13:03   hmm so what is this desk is it going to [TS]

01:13:06   be like some battle station with ipad [TS]

01:13:09   mini [TS]

01:13:09   these mounted into it or something like [TS]

01:13:11   yeah is it a desk made out of your old [TS]

01:13:13   iPad so you can just touch everything [TS]

01:13:15   always okay okay so like you're joking [TS]

01:13:20   Mike but ok so here's you here's the [TS]

01:13:22   thing here's the thing right [TS]

01:13:24   I forget you have you watched much Star [TS]

01:13:27   Trek in your life mike i'm not i can [TS]

01:13:28   remember and there you have it [TS]

01:13:31   ok so longtime viewers of Star Trek will [TS]

01:13:34   know this little bit of a cliché that [TS]

01:13:36   they do on the show [TS]

01:13:37   the captain will say something like oh [TS]

01:13:39   we've flown into this new region of [TS]

01:13:40   space and they'll tell some enson I need [TS]

01:13:43   you to bring me all the research on [TS]

01:13:45   everything we know about this sector of [TS]

01:13:47   space that I'm prepared for whatever is [TS]

01:13:48   coming up and so the instant goes away [TS]

01:13:50   and then the answer will come back and [TS]

01:13:53   because it's TV because they have to [TS]

01:13:55   visually show you like oh boy look at [TS]

01:13:57   all this work this person has done the [TS]

01:13:59   answer will come back with what is the [TS]

01:14:01   equivalent of like an arm full of iPad [TS]

01:14:04   minis and it's just like you know why [TS]

01:14:08   they're doing it on TV because they have [TS]

01:14:10   to show it to you but it it does look [TS]

01:14:13   kind of ridiculous when you think about [TS]

01:14:15   it I was like do they need all of those [TS]

01:14:17   ipads it is that like is that really [TS]

01:14:21   necessary [TS]

01:14:22   I'm sure given the amazing state of [TS]

01:14:24   Technology everything this dude has [TS]

01:14:26   looked up could fit on one ipad i like [TS]

01:14:29   it's not really necessary and then [TS]

01:14:31   they'll show the captain later on to [TS]

01:14:33   indicate like oh boy look at all the [TS]

01:14:35   work Janeway's been doing you know [TS]

01:14:36   she'll be there and her hair will be [TS]

01:14:38   like you know messed up because she's [TS]

01:14:39   been working all night long and there [TS]

01:14:40   will be in front of her on the desk 10 [TS]

01:14:43   equivalent of ipads just strewn all over [TS]

01:14:46   the place and so it's this visual image [TS]

01:14:48   like look at all the work she's doing [TS]

01:14:49   and it's sort of ridiculous but at the [TS]

01:14:55   same time when I think about the future [TS]

01:14:58   of computing and the future of how i'm [TS]

01:15:02   doing my work I don't think that is [TS]

01:15:07   actually a a crazy scenario because can [TS]

01:15:10   I imagine and have I already done a [TS]

01:15:13   couple of times [TS]

01:15:14   yes sitting somewhere and i am using my [TS]

01:15:18   iPad pro to take notes with my Apple [TS]

01:15:22   pencil [TS]

01:15:22   so I'm using it like a clipboard and [TS]

01:15:26   then i'm watching something else on a [TS]

01:15:28   separate screen or i'm reading something [TS]

01:15:31   else on a separate screen [TS]

01:15:33   I don't think it's actually a crazy [TS]

01:15:36   scenario to have two devices being used [TS]

01:15:41   side-by-side and I already see people do [TS]

01:15:44   this like when i'm out of the cafes and [TS]

01:15:45   I'm working I'm always fascinated by [TS]

01:15:47   seeing what other people are doing I'm [TS]

01:15:50   always very interested like what other [TS]

01:15:51   equipment to people have how to other [TS]

01:15:53   people you use stuff and the number of [TS]

01:15:55   times I see people working on ipads or [TS]

01:15:58   surfaces who are then also clearly using [TS]

01:16:02   their iPhone or whatever phone they have [TS]

01:16:05   as a secondary screen that's a nonzero [TS]

01:16:07   use case i do it [TS]

01:16:09   yeah so there you go so that like I [TS]

01:16:11   think people like to laugh at that idea [TS]

01:16:13   like how you're going to use two ipads [TS]

01:16:15   at once like you lunatic like yeah but [TS]

01:16:18   like you have to think of them not as [TS]

01:16:20   iPads but as screens and screens that [TS]

01:16:25   you can input into and that you can [TS]

01:16:28   receive information from and if you're [TS]

01:16:30   just thinking of that in an abstract way [TS]

01:16:32   is that a crazy thing to want more of AI [TS]

01:16:35   I don't think so at all and so what I've [TS]

01:16:37   seen people sometimes in Star Trek like [TS]

01:16:39   they will criticize the visual look of a [TS]

01:16:41   captain sitting in front of a bunch of [TS]

01:16:43   these little iPads is like but is that [TS]

01:16:46   unreasonable [TS]

01:16:47   I mean people have sat in front of desks [TS]

01:16:49   with papers all over the desk each paper [TS]

01:16:53   they want to be able to look at the same [TS]

01:16:55   time so I'm not saying that we're like [TS]

01:16:57   we're necessarily there now that this [TS]

01:16:59   makes sense for a lot of people's work [TS]

01:17:02   but I can say that thinking about the [TS]

01:17:04   future of how i'm going to work and and [TS]

01:17:07   what I might want to do like I can [TS]

01:17:09   definitely see that that a a multiple [TS]

01:17:12   flexible iOS screen-based workflow makes [TS]

01:17:18   more sense than continuing to invest in [TS]

01:17:21   the imac as the centerpiece of my [TS]

01:17:24   working life which it just it just [TS]

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01:19:36   alright so one big change then and [TS]

01:19:39   probably why you would want to have this [TS]

01:19:41   ipad desk is because you are able to use [TS]

01:19:46   the pencil like I just see that is [TS]

01:19:47   something that is probably very [TS]

01:19:49   important [TS]

01:19:49   it's something that I know that we both [TS]

01:19:51   really cared about so I'm interested in [TS]

01:19:54   how that has come for you and working on [TS]

01:19:57   your scripts and stuff [TS]

01:19:59   yes because we were both very very [TS]

01:20:03   cautious about the pencil before they [TS]

01:20:08   cut into our actual hands and so now we [TS]

01:20:12   have had it I've been using it for a [TS]

01:20:14   little while and my review of the Apple [TS]

01:20:24   pencil could be summarized in one word I [TS]

01:20:28   say that the Apple pencil in the stylist [TS]

01:20:31   world has risen to the Magnificent [TS]

01:20:36   height of acceptable it is 100-percent [TS]

01:20:42   acceptable for its intended purpose [TS]

01:20:46   yeah which if you go back and you listen [TS]

01:20:48   to our earlier podcast like we made [TS]

01:20:50   offhand reference to previous styluses [TS]

01:20:53   every other stylist has been just awful [TS]

01:20:58   i mean frankly unacceptable if that is [TS]

01:21:00   what they have all been they have all [TS]

01:21:02   had some just deal-breaking flaw and [TS]

01:21:08   I've seen lots of people saying like [TS]

01:21:09   they think it's just amazing [TS]

01:21:11   I i am not in the camp of someone who [TS]

01:21:13   says it is amazing but I think that [TS]

01:21:16   acceptability is super high praise in [TS]

01:21:20   the stylus world in all honesty [TS]

01:21:22   acceptable from you your standards of [TS]

01:21:27   acceptable is probably the exact same [TS]

01:21:30   standard of a bitch some people's [TS]

01:21:32   amazing i think apple should make ads [TS]

01:21:36   for their Apple pencil and they should [TS]

01:21:37   just put on their acceptable [TS]

01:21:39   cgpgrey right hello my name is gb gray [TS]

01:21:42   and i'm here to tell you about the Apple [TS]

01:21:45   pencil now I'm envisioning those posters [TS]

01:21:47   they like to do where everything is all [TS]

01:21:49   white all right so it's just a white [TS]

01:21:50   background it's just the white pencil [TS]

01:21:51   and the word acceptable cgpgrey Apple [TS]

01:21:54   marketing department you can have that [TS]

01:21:55   one if you want to run with it I'm [TS]

01:21:56   perfectly fine using that as my review [TS]

01:21:59   but on the block's guys yeah but yes [TS]

01:22:03   so there are there are many things about [TS]

01:22:05   it then I would like to be improved [TS]

01:22:10   I I think largely that's the reason why [TS]

01:22:13   i have it as acceptable is again the [TS]

01:22:16   number of people who say that the [TS]

01:22:17   latency is very very low i think those [TS]

01:22:19   are crazy people who maybe don't play a [TS]

01:22:22   lot of games or who aren't highly [TS]

01:22:24   attuned to latency like when I'm when I [TS]

01:22:26   am writing with it is very clearly a [TS]

01:22:30   half maybe three-quarters of a letter [TS]

01:22:32   behind what I am actually writing like [TS]

01:22:35   it is noticeable but it is acceptable [TS]

01:22:38   like it is within acceptable boundaries [TS]

01:22:40   and quite frankly i am thrilled about [TS]

01:22:43   that because it latency isn't a problem [TS]

01:22:45   because it picks up everything which is [TS]

01:22:48   not the case previously it doesn't [TS]

01:22:50   matter what movement i make no matter [TS]

01:22:52   how precise the Apple pencil gets it so [TS]

01:22:54   i'm happy about being a little bit [TS]

01:22:56   behind me so you also find it acceptable [TS]

01:22:58   make almost definitely good i'm glad [TS]

01:23:00   that you find it acceptable it does you [TS]

01:23:02   know it is the closest representation of [TS]

01:23:05   of looking like my handwriting on any [TS]

01:23:07   computer i've ever used so what have you [TS]

01:23:10   been using it for um I use it for taking [TS]

01:23:15   some notes which i do hit here and there [TS]

01:23:18   but more really more that the thing i [TS]

01:23:20   love it the most for is operating iOS [TS]

01:23:23   like a pen tablet [TS]

01:23:25   mm-hmm and this is partly your fault why [TS]

01:23:30   like so much anyway is because you have [TS]

01:23:32   indoctrinated me into the wacom world [TS]

01:23:35   who so now using a computer with a pen [TS]

01:23:38   is what I like all I like that a lot [TS]

01:23:40   like it's just so much more precise they [TS]

01:23:42   can text selection and things like that [TS]

01:23:44   just way better with the Apple pencil [TS]

01:23:46   but I like just clicking around the [TS]

01:23:48   interface it's very enjoyable to me i [TS]

01:23:51   find it very pleasurable experience I [TS]

01:23:53   like dragging things around with a [TS]

01:23:55   pencil and you know I take some notes [TS]

01:23:56   and do some doodles and stuff like that [TS]

01:23:58   like the things that are intended to use [TS]

01:23:59   it for the majority of the time it's [TS]

01:24:02   just purely the way that i use iOS now [TS]

01:24:05   we use my iPad like I just tap things [TS]

01:24:07   with the pencil this is the thing that I [TS]

01:24:09   have gotten into many an argument about [TS]

01:24:11   both on the internet and with real [TS]

01:24:13   people is I like iOS but i think that [TS]

01:24:20   touch screens are fundamentally an organ [TS]

01:24:23   omikami because if if you think about [TS]

01:24:26   the position that you hold your hand in [TS]

01:24:28   when you touch screen now so most people [TS]

01:24:31   think i'm touching the screen and they [TS]

01:24:33   imagine what they're doing is I is [TS]

01:24:35   holding out there index finger right in [TS]

01:24:37   front of them and pressing straight [TS]

01:24:38   ahead of them but that's not what people [TS]

01:24:40   do if you look at that because you have [TS]

01:24:42   the ipad in front of you and so what'd [TS]

01:24:45   you do to touch the screen very often as [TS]

01:24:47   you have to spread out your hand and [TS]

01:24:49   then hold it up in front of you in this [TS]

01:24:52   in this kind of awkward position and I [TS]

01:24:54   think it's a lot like when you have your [TS]

01:24:56   hand on a mouse a lot of times you're [TS]

01:24:59   holding your two fingers up above the [TS]

01:25:02   buttons because you don't want to [TS]

01:25:03   accidentally press them [TS]

01:25:05   I just think there's something really [TS]

01:25:06   under gunawan about that over the long [TS]

01:25:08   run and holding a pencil in your hand or [TS]

01:25:12   any pointing device is just so natural [TS]

01:25:16   because then in order to have that the [TS]

01:25:19   pencil tip hit the screen your hand is [TS]

01:25:21   in front of you in a very natural [TS]

01:25:24   position and so this is one of the few [TS]

01:25:28   things that I continue to use stylist is [TS]

01:25:30   for when long after I gave up trying to [TS]

01:25:32   use them to write I still very often [TS]

01:25:35   kept styluses around because i like to [TS]

01:25:38   use them as pointing devices to hit [TS]

01:25:41   targets on touchscreens see I never did [TS]

01:25:43   that and I didn't like that because it [TS]

01:25:46   just felt like I was holding somebody [TS]

01:25:48   else's finger previously because it just [TS]

01:25:51   didn't really add anything to the [TS]

01:25:53   experience I mean it was like I was just [TS]

01:25:55   using my mushy fat fingers to hit a [TS]

01:25:57   mushy thing into the screen like it's [TS]

01:25:59   not really useful look for me should [TS]

01:26:01   have the Pacific the pencil is so [TS]

01:26:03   precise and so accurate that I can hit [TS]

01:26:05   everything I want to hit ya you're never [TS]

01:26:07   going to miss something when you hit it [TS]

01:26:09   with the pencil exactly that the only [TS]

01:26:11   thing that i have noticed because I I i [TS]

01:26:13   mean here's the thing the ipad pro in [TS]

01:26:15   some ways has totally ruined me for all [TS]

01:26:17   my other eye pads because i want to use [TS]

01:26:22   the pencil on everything that I'm using [TS]

01:26:24   to nap [TS]

01:26:25   the gate right now i have to write I [TS]

01:26:27   want to use it to hit touch targets say [TS]

01:26:30   it was a thing I kept doing yesterday so [TS]

01:26:31   i was using I wanted to be able to split [TS]

01:26:35   screen that application because they [TS]

01:26:38   needed to see two agencies appreciate a [TS]

01:26:40   webpage but google sheets man why even [TS]

01:26:43   bother like oh yeah those google docs [TS]

01:26:46   they're great [TS]

01:26:46   I'm so glad to open up the cortex show [TS]

01:26:48   notes on them it's lovely every time so [TS]

01:26:50   i had to use google sheets on my iPad [TS]

01:26:52   and I had to look at something else on [TS]

01:26:53   my iPhone because I was entering in some [TS]

01:26:55   information and I kept tapping my iphone [TS]

01:26:58   with the pencil [TS]

01:26:59   yeah even though i know i know it [TS]

01:27:01   doesn't work [TS]

01:27:02   yeah but I kept doing it anyway I did [TS]

01:27:05   that for the first time today a few [TS]

01:27:08   hours ago my phone was on the desk i was [TS]

01:27:11   using the ipad pro and I just very [TS]

01:27:13   naturally took the pencil and went to [TS]

01:27:15   swipe the lock screen open on the on the [TS]

01:27:17   phone it's like oh right of course now [TS]

01:27:19   it's not going to work and now i am sad [TS]

01:27:23   it's a very natural tool that you want [TS]

01:27:25   to use everywhere and I think it really [TS]

01:27:28   it it makes navigating iOS a more easy [TS]

01:27:35   and enjoyable experience than constantly [TS]

01:27:37   trying to reach up in this awkward [TS]

01:27:38   matter with your hand to hit the various [TS]

01:27:41   touch targets i really do think that [TS]

01:27:43   this is only more enjoyable people that [TS]

01:27:45   use pen tablets i really do think that [TS]

01:27:48   but I think once for me anyway i believe [TS]

01:27:51   and i think you believe that if you are [TS]

01:27:53   used to it it is just flat-out better [TS]

01:27:55   but you need to click get over the [TS]

01:27:58   initial hump until you do it doesn't [TS]

01:28:01   feel better you so you really think that [TS]

01:28:03   this is only because i have infected you [TS]

01:28:05   with the tablet use on a computer that's [TS]

01:28:06   what everyone at like bored with this [TS]

01:28:08   yeah it's a you and I are just total [TS]

01:28:10   freaks in this world and we will see in [TS]

01:28:12   comments in the reddit that just [TS]

01:28:13   everyone disagrees with us is that your [TS]

01:28:15   is that your prediction that is my [TS]

01:28:16   hypothesis but but I stand by the fact [TS]

01:28:19   that if you can accept it and get used [TS]

01:28:21   to it you will like it more than you did [TS]

01:28:23   before but you need that I believe that [TS]

01:28:25   there is a hump that you have to go over [TS]

01:28:27   like I have this perfectly good finger [TS]

01:28:29   why would I put something in my hand [TS]

01:28:31   I hate that are given so much also do I [TS]

01:28:36   but I had everybody said that people [TS]

01:28:38   bring up like Oh Steve Jobs said you [TS]

01:28:39   have ten perfectly good stylist is like [TS]

01:28:41   no you don't you did not in your hands [TS]

01:28:44   like this and it's not styluses it's not [TS]

01:28:46   remotely the same the only thing i have [TS]

01:28:48   noticed is that Apple has clearly built [TS]

01:28:54   into the ipad the ability to know that [TS]

01:28:57   it is the pencil and to ignore it in [TS]

01:28:59   certain circumstances so at least in my [TS]

01:29:03   own testing it is impossible to pull up [TS]

01:29:06   control center or pull down notification [TS]

01:29:08   center or anything of the split view [TS]

01:29:10   start it doesn't work i can pull down [TS]

01:29:13   the notification center i have done [TS]

01:29:15   Notification Center but that was like [TS]

01:29:17   randomly one time [TS]

01:29:19   ok I I thought I was just being an idiot [TS]

01:29:22   and i sat down i tried it for a while [TS]

01:29:24   and then I came to the conclusion that [TS]

01:29:26   Apple has programmed this to ignore the [TS]

01:29:29   like the meta user interface this stuff [TS]

01:29:32   that is not in the apps but that is over [TS]

01:29:35   or outside of the apps so everything all [TS]

01:29:37   the slide over stuff and any of the [TS]

01:29:39   split view stuff it pretends like the [TS]

01:29:41   pencil is not able to to register those [TS]

01:29:43   those marks i think it's an interesting [TS]

01:29:46   choice i don't think it's necessarily [TS]

01:29:47   the the wrong choice but it is notable [TS]

01:29:49   when you get used to manipulating the [TS]

01:29:51   interface with a pencil that there are [TS]

01:29:52   these couple things that it just won't [TS]

01:29:54   let you do even though it obviously [TS]

01:29:55   knows you're touching the screen [TS]

01:29:57   I think I'm okay with it like it doesn't [TS]

01:29:59   bother me i can see I don't know why you [TS]

01:30:02   would make that decision by can see that [TS]

01:30:04   you would if that makes sense like I [TS]

01:30:06   don't know what your reasoning is like [TS]

01:30:07   when it comes up you like all know we [TS]

01:30:09   can't have the pencil operate those [TS]

01:30:10   parts of the US but the fact that they [TS]

01:30:12   that they say is built that way can kind [TS]

01:30:15   of make some with sense to me that I can [TS]

01:30:16   explain [TS]

01:30:17   yeah I i think it is not unreasonable [TS]

01:30:19   decision to make because you might be [TS]

01:30:21   using the pencil in a drawing app and [TS]

01:30:23   come up against the edge a lot and so [TS]

01:30:24   they want to ignore edge input like I [TS]

01:30:26   think that's not unreasonable [TS]

01:30:27   yeah like if you want to draw a line [TS]

01:30:29   from the edge right you would but you [TS]

01:30:31   can't do it anywhere like us you know [TS]

01:30:33   you're gonna pull down the notifications [TS]

01:30:35   after yeah there are ya there are these [TS]

01:30:38   are these funny things with the edge [TS]

01:30:40   swipe gestures now that sometimes make [TS]

01:30:41   some apps [TS]

01:30:42   particularly infuriating think I use I [TS]

01:30:45   use I books to read all my books now and [TS]

01:30:48   I don't know any way to try to get slide [TS]

01:30:51   over or split view to happen while [TS]

01:30:52   you're using a book that doesn't also [TS]

01:30:54   turn the page of the book it's [TS]

01:30:56   impossible to do i SAT there for a while [TS]

01:30:58   like okay I'm going to slide over I [TS]

01:31:01   messages without turning a page in my [TS]

01:31:04   book like there must be a way to do it [TS]

01:31:05   and like now is no way to do this [TS]

01:31:07   because they just don't understand what [TS]

01:31:09   you're trying to do from the edge of the [TS]

01:31:10   screen there's a few apps that are like [TS]

01:31:12   that have edged gestures now which are a [TS]

01:31:13   little bit frustrating into iOS but it's [TS]

01:31:16   a small price to pay [TS]

01:31:17   so DG use the pencil for marking up [TS]

01:31:19   scripts because i know that was one of [TS]

01:31:20   your big designers for ya so getting [TS]

01:31:23   back to the getting back to the pencil [TS]

01:31:25   the reason why I can say it is [TS]

01:31:27   acceptable is that this allows me to do [TS]

01:31:30   the thing that I wanted to do that i [TS]

01:31:32   have tried to do with limited success in [TS]

01:31:35   past years which is that i can now mark [TS]

01:31:38   up scripts just like I had printed them [TS]

01:31:42   off from a printer and was using a real [TS]

01:31:43   pen and it is not an exaggeration to say [TS]

01:31:48   that this is just a game-changing for me [TS]

01:31:51   the ability to do this so I'll just [TS]

01:31:55   described briefly like what what I'm [TS]

01:31:57   doing and I can actually just as i can i [TS]

01:31:58   can share some of this with that [TS]

01:32:00   listeners if anyone wants to try it I [TS]

01:32:02   was trying to figure out how to generate [TS]

01:32:05   a PDF with custom formatting on iOS i [TS]

01:32:11   was messing around for a while I was [TS]

01:32:13   trying to figure out like how can I do [TS]

01:32:14   this how can i do this i have these [TS]

01:32:16   markdown files that i want to turn into [TS]

01:32:17   pdfs but i need custom formatting I [TS]

01:32:20   can't figure it out [TS]

01:32:21   so of course i asked the master the [TS]

01:32:24   teaching and within two seconds he was [TS]

01:32:26   like oh here's the thing that you can do [TS]

01:32:28   like oh thank you [TS]

01:32:29   so he sent me a little workflow in [TS]

01:32:32   editorial which I've been modified for [TS]

01:32:34   my own purposes and i realize i can [TS]

01:32:37   share the link so people want to check [TS]

01:32:38   it out or try it they can they can do [TS]

01:32:39   with themselves so all of my scripts are [TS]

01:32:41   synchronized through dropbox so i can [TS]

01:32:44   open up editorial which has access to [TS]

01:32:46   the current scripts that i'm working on [TS]

01:32:47   press this little button to invoke the [TS]

01:32:50   custom workflow and it spits out a PDF [TS]

01:32:54   of what i want to work [TS]

01:32:56   on and the key thing here is that it it [TS]

01:32:59   triple spaces the words and it makes the [TS]

01:33:01   text really big so i end up with this [TS]

01:33:03   this PDF where there's a lot of space [TS]

01:33:06   that's the gate so i don't know what [TS]

01:33:08   your problem is but now i get its this [TS]

01:33:10   with format you have to do there are [TS]

01:33:13   plenty there are plenty of apps that [TS]

01:33:16   will just convert mark down into a PDF [TS]

01:33:18   but the key is I want lots of space to [TS]

01:33:22   write and actually like let me I'll send [TS]

01:33:25   you a link here let me show you you'll [TS]

01:33:28   have to keep the secret because this is [TS]

01:33:30   a currently in work projects so I i have [TS]

01:33:33   sent Mike so he can see an example of a [TS]

01:33:36   script that I marked up recently using [TS]

01:33:39   this method where I've created a PDF and [TS]

01:33:41   then i can write on top of it with the [TS]

01:33:43   Apple pencil but you listener it can go [TS]

01:33:45   and if you just take a look at that old [TS]

01:33:47   blog post that I wrote called iteration [TS]

01:33:49   which talked about some of the working [TS]

01:33:50   process you can see basically what I'm [TS]

01:33:52   doing there [TS]

01:33:53   although then I did it on paper but I'm [TS]

01:33:57   telling you the ability to at any moment [TS]

01:33:59   make this PDF from any of my scripts and [TS]

01:34:03   work on it in this editing fashion where [TS]

01:34:06   I'm striking out lines where I'm able to [TS]

01:34:09   make little notes it makes such a huge [TS]

01:34:11   difference [TS]

01:34:13   so on this trip and I took a couple of [TS]

01:34:15   trains and I took a couple of flights [TS]

01:34:17   and on on both of these on trains and on [TS]

01:34:20   planes i was able to make these pdfs and [TS]

01:34:23   in like a plane you're sitting in a not [TS]

01:34:25   super comfortable seat like there are [TS]

01:34:27   people around you it's a bad time to [TS]

01:34:29   pull out your mac pro and try to type [TS]

01:34:33   away in a script like there's nothing [TS]

01:34:34   about that that's conducive to this but [TS]

01:34:36   i found with the ipad pro and with the [TS]

01:34:38   pencil i could edit and make notes [TS]

01:34:41   really easily and comfortably in my lap [TS]

01:34:45   on a train or on a plane in a way that I [TS]

01:34:47   would never have worked on a script like [TS]

01:34:49   that in the past but now it's like boom [TS]

01:34:52   i can just do it at any point and i love [TS]

01:34:56   it i absolutely love being able to work [TS]

01:34:58   like this [TS]

01:34:59   I can see it in the work right like an [TS]

01:35:03   looking at what you're doing here i can [TS]

01:35:06   see why it's so beneficial to you to be [TS]

01:35:08   able to do that [TS]

01:35:09   like this is I can see why this is such [TS]

01:35:11   an important tool the kids not only you [TS]

01:35:15   able to make all those notes and to make [TS]

01:35:18   them in a fantastically easy way right [TS]

01:35:20   you just bring on the actual notes [TS]

01:35:22   themselves that are on the screen [TS]

01:35:24   who nothing is printed nothing scanned [TS]

01:35:27   it's all there digitally it's all saved [TS]

01:35:30   everywhere it's like the ideal i used to [TS]

01:35:33   only print out scripts on paper when I [TS]

01:35:35   was kind of stuck with a script that was [TS]

01:35:37   always aware that this was a tool that [TS]

01:35:39   if I'm having a hard time with the [TS]

01:35:40   script printing it out and working on it [TS]

01:35:43   in pen and paper is a helpful thing to [TS]

01:35:44   unstick it because I think about my [TS]

01:35:48   writing has these two phases where it's [TS]

01:35:49   like if I am typing a script at a [TS]

01:35:52   computer or I'm doing the thing where [TS]

01:35:53   I'm talking it out loud but i'm also on [TS]

01:35:55   the computer i'm in a kind of growing [TS]

01:35:58   phase i'm usually adding things to the [TS]

01:36:01   script like it's very easy when you're [TS]

01:36:02   typing to add more but editing is the [TS]

01:36:05   exact reverse we're doing this thing [TS]

01:36:08   where it's a PDF and I'm making notes on [TS]

01:36:10   it it's way easier here to cut things [TS]

01:36:13   and so when I was stuck on scripts [TS]

01:36:15   printing them out and working on them [TS]

01:36:17   like this it made it more obvious [TS]

01:36:19   sections that needed to be cut like okay [TS]

01:36:21   this is bloated this is bloated like [TS]

01:36:23   just cross it all out scribble it all [TS]

01:36:25   out get rid of its garbage and now i [TS]

01:36:29   have i have really worked it into my [TS]

01:36:31   workflow that like because i don't have [TS]

01:36:33   the hassle of printing and scanning and [TS]

01:36:35   doing all this crap like it's just right [TS]

01:36:37   here I have done so much more of this [TS]

01:36:41   editing on scripts than ever before and [TS]

01:36:45   I just love having it as an optional way [TS]

01:36:48   to work and it's also just a much lower [TS]

01:36:52   barrier to work like it's easier to do [TS]

01:36:55   this [TS]

01:36:56   editing on a script then it is to do the [TS]

01:36:58   thing where I want to talk out loud [TS]

01:37:00   because first of all I need to be in the [TS]

01:37:01   environment where i can do it this kind [TS]

01:37:03   of thing like I'm on a plane I have an [TS]

01:37:05   hour like boom I can make this PDF and I [TS]

01:37:08   can work on it it's just it's just [TS]

01:37:10   perfect for me i absolutely love it so [TS]

01:37:14   the pencil has immediately immediately [TS]

01:37:19   become and [TS]

01:37:22   irreplaceable tool for the kind of work [TS]

01:37:24   that I do it's just astounding I presume [TS]

01:37:28   that you're using it to color in that's [TS]

01:37:31   what you're doing your coloring books [TS]

01:37:32   no because for some insane reason nobody [TS]

01:37:36   has made a good coloring appiah money on [TS]

01:37:40   the table people i'm lying on the table [TS]

01:37:43   I like petitioning some friends like [TS]

01:37:45   that Allah like this will make you [TS]

01:37:47   millions of dollars and i understand [TS]

01:37:50   that purchases for books and oh but they [TS]

01:37:54   just won't listen to me but yeah so I [TS]

01:37:57   don't know from it for me like i said [TS]

01:37:58   this pencil absolutely vital and so now [TS]

01:38:01   i am just terrified that i'm going to [TS]

01:38:04   lose it because it's two things like [TS]

01:38:06   this massive about if I no delays for [TS]

01:38:09   the shipping like I went to look online [TS]

01:38:10   the other day and still like 4-5 weeks [TS]

01:38:12   for shipping and so I am just constantly [TS]

01:38:16   focused on where is it do I have it like [TS]

01:38:18   every time I move i have to make sure [TS]

01:38:20   that I don't love it lose it because if [TS]

01:38:22   I lost it now i will I would be crushed [TS]

01:38:24   I i would be one of these people paying [TS]

01:38:27   scalpers anything on ebay to get it back [TS]

01:38:30   like someone selling one on ebay for [TS]

01:38:32   twice as much great here you got to take [TS]

01:38:34   my money like I need it now because this [TS]

01:38:36   is just part of my workflow immediately [TS]

01:38:39   but I bolt a pen loop that I have stuck [TS]

01:38:43   to my ipad pro even so it has somewhere [TS]

01:38:47   to live [TS]

01:38:48   so I don't lose it we're getting into [TS]

01:38:50   we're getting into the lucrative pencil [TS]

01:38:52   accessory market very soon I imagine [TS]

01:38:55   oh yeah yep i also bought a little a [TS]

01:38:57   clip that goes on a pan called official [TS]

01:39:00   span it's not very elegant clip is way [TS]

01:39:03   too small it looks kind of jokey but it [TS]

01:39:04   stops it from moving [TS]

01:39:05   i sent you a picture my one complaint [TS]

01:39:07   about the pencil or by Jeff I'm gonna [TS]

01:39:10   have a long list of complaints but [TS]

01:39:11   that's not for today conditions [TS]

01:39:13   acceptable but i find it too slippery [TS]

01:39:16   and so I i am indeed i have one of these [TS]

01:39:20   little pencil grips like i used to use [TS]

01:39:21   in kindergarten attached to my Apple [TS]

01:39:24   pencil and I've been trying out a few of [TS]

01:39:27   them i've also been like I'm trying to [TS]

01:39:30   sometimes use the pencil without it [TS]

01:39:31   because i would really prefer not to but [TS]

01:39:34   I do find like if I am right [TS]

01:39:35   in for an hour my hand kind of keeps [TS]

01:39:38   slipping towards the front of the pencil [TS]

01:39:40   like it's a little too slippery for me [TS]

01:39:42   so I do need a grip on it but happy I [TS]

01:39:44   feel like I'm in kindergarten like oh [TS]

01:39:46   hello triangular pencil grip like we [TS]

01:39:49   meet again [TS]

01:39:50   I thought we could I thought I left you [TS]

01:39:51   in my path but no yeah it does make me [TS]

01:39:56   wonder like I had a little bit of a [TS]

01:39:58   thought which is an apple watch edition [TS]

01:40:02   version of the pencil in the future [TS]

01:40:04   yeah I've already suspect this out by [TS]

01:40:07   the way if Apple made something like [TS]

01:40:09   this I would be willing to spend a not [TS]

01:40:14   insubstantial amount of money for [TS]

01:40:17   something that made this feel like one [TS]

01:40:20   of the mechanical pencils i used to use [TS]

01:40:21   doing physics back in college [TS]

01:40:24   Apple there's there's no speaking of [TS]

01:40:25   money on the table like there's money on [TS]

01:40:27   the table here because we already know [TS]

01:40:29   there's a high-end pen market out there [TS]

01:40:31   and I just I wonder if this is something [TS]

01:40:33   Tim Cook seems to love his margins on [TS]

01:40:36   products like i wonder if there's [TS]

01:40:37   something like this in the back of their [TS]

01:40:39   mind for for version two of the pencil [TS]

01:40:41   but what if you suspect out like so you [TS]

01:40:43   could very easily make something that [TS]

01:40:45   costs what you would sell for five [TS]

01:40:46   hundred dollars and make it out of [TS]

01:40:48   materials that a usual in the world that [TS]

01:40:52   I frequent so in my mind this would be [TS]

01:40:55   aluminium mm because then it fits of [TS]

01:40:58   apple products which should be any way [TS]

01:41:00   that is the thing that I absolutely hate [TS]

01:41:02   it I hate the whiteness of it yeah i [TS]

01:41:04   look like i knew i wouldn't like it and [TS]

01:41:06   using it in person in the real world [TS]

01:41:09   I loathe the whiteness of it is too [TS]

01:41:11   conspicuous and to solve your grip [TS]

01:41:13   problem and also to fit with the design [TS]

01:41:16   aesthetic aluminium they would know the [TS]

01:41:18   grip be familiar with Nolan gray like [TS]

01:41:20   I'm thinking about the old mechanical [TS]

01:41:21   pencils that I used to use in college [TS]

01:41:23   and I'm thinking this is like that [TS]

01:41:24   cross-hatching you get around the place [TS]

01:41:26   where you're gripping it like [TS]

01:41:27   that'sthat's what you're talking about [TS]

01:41:28   schooled knowing ya ok darling [TS]

01:41:30   so they would do that to that to the [TS]

01:41:32   grip section yep i think they could put [TS]

01:41:35   a nice clip on it i think that would be [TS]

01:41:37   really nice to people can clip it into [TS]

01:41:38   their pockets more than anything like [TS]

01:41:40   it's not necessarily about the moving [TS]

01:41:42   thing although that is a thing for me [TS]

01:41:43   and something i would really like to see [TS]

01:41:45   them do in a very elegant way which is [TS]

01:41:47   definitely [TS]

01:41:48   possible is a retractable lightning [TS]

01:41:52   lightning plug or whatever you call it [TS]

01:41:55   know you could do it [TS]

01:41:58   ok ok Mike Mike you could [TS]

01:42:01   ok I understand you want like a little [TS]

01:42:03   quickie thing at the end where the [TS]

01:42:05   Lightning port comes out right [TS]

01:42:07   I imagine a twisting mechanism ok or [TS]

01:42:10   twisting mechanism whatever you know [TS]

01:42:12   everyone who uses pens is familiar with [TS]

01:42:13   this right-click on the end or something [TS]

01:42:15   if there's one thing we know about Apple [TS]

01:42:17   is that they hate moving parts that they [TS]

01:42:20   have a war against moving parts and so [TS]

01:42:23   there's no way there's no way they're [TS]

01:42:26   going to have anything like a [TS]

01:42:27   retractable like everyone says this to [TS]

01:42:29   me that I say this too and I understand [TS]

01:42:31   why people feel this way but trust me if [TS]

01:42:35   you like it's this high-end feel there [TS]

01:42:37   are a couple of fountain pens that [TS]

01:42:38   exists that kind of do this type of [TS]

01:42:40   thing and you can it really feels [TS]

01:42:43   incredible late that you twist something [TS]

01:42:46   or you click something and then the the [TS]

01:42:48   Lightning port would pop out the top i [TS]

01:42:50   would very much like that but i can see [TS]

01:42:51   why so many people wouldn't like that my [TS]

01:42:54   aunt might not do it but that is of the [TS]

01:42:56   things that I think they could make that [TS]

01:42:58   is the least important of that scenario [TS]

01:43:01   it's really it's the making out of [TS]

01:43:03   aluminium which is that the key part of [TS]

01:43:05   it and just making a real nice finish on [TS]

01:43:08   it then I think you don't think that'd [TS]

01:43:10   be set at that point and you could sell [TS]

01:43:12   that thing for four or five hundred [TS]

01:43:13   dollars you just gotta wait it really [TS]

01:43:14   nicely like they did a good job at the [TS]

01:43:16   waiting we just pay a lot of attention [TS]

01:43:18   to the way that is weighted and they [TS]

01:43:20   would let you know that would be the [TS]

01:43:22   basis for people like you and me [TS]

01:43:24   yeah i would i would 500 and 500 seems a [TS]

01:43:28   lot but when I considering something [TS]

01:43:30   that would be a tool that I would use [TS]

01:43:32   everyday when I mean like since i got [TS]

01:43:34   the Apple pencil i have used it every [TS]

01:43:36   day intensely for writing for an hour [TS]

01:43:39   two hours and then i'm using it in [TS]

01:43:42   additionally to navigate the interface [TS]

01:43:44   for the rest of the day I know why 500 [TS]

01:43:47   sounds a lot but i'm basing it on the [TS]

01:43:50   pen world i have pens made of acrylic [TS]

01:43:52   that cost four hundred dollars [TS]

01:43:54   yes this is the thing where I'm just I'm [TS]

01:43:56   just not familiar with this [TS]

01:43:58   and whereas when apple released their [TS]

01:44:01   their pricing for the app [TS]

01:44:02   watch like I am dimly aware of the [TS]

01:44:04   high-end watch world and so when they [TS]

01:44:06   announced their prices for the Apple [TS]

01:44:08   watch I was like yeah it's a lot but [TS]

01:44:11   it's not it's not like a crazy number in [TS]

01:44:15   the in the high-end watch world and i'm [TS]

01:44:17   just not familiar with like what-what [TS]

01:44:18   are super high-end pens and pencils like [TS]

01:44:22   what do they go for I don't smell super [TS]

01:44:24   high-end okay.what okay.what super [TS]

01:44:27   high-end pencil a pencil or pen rai been [TS]

01:44:31   super high in penn you for you'd be [TS]

01:44:34   looking for figures or maybe like [TS]

01:44:35   clothes tools that like the nine 800-900 [TS]

01:44:38   mark the most expensive pen my own cost [TS]

01:44:43   about six hundred dollars very easy to [TS]

01:44:46   get there [TS]

01:44:48   well i guess for people who want to know [TS]

01:44:49   the details of how you get there you [TS]

01:44:51   have a podcast we should go listen to [TS]

01:44:52   which is the pen addict [TS]

01:44:54   yes they should this this is this [TS]

01:44:57   specific plan that was custom made it [TS]

01:44:59   was like so expensive I even picked out [TS]

01:45:01   and sourced the material great i'm sure [TS]

01:45:04   i'm sure you had some organic free-range [TS]

01:45:07   bamboo or something that you had your [TS]

01:45:10   super high-end pen made out of that [TS]

01:45:12   sounds like what you do it's a material [TS]

01:45:14   called to boldy what is the body just [TS]

01:45:17   google it [TS]

01:45:18   just google to bowl deep n t iba ldi [TS]

01:45:22   yeah i am not able to tell what this [TS]

01:45:24   material is by looking at it is in a [TS]

01:45:26   crazed an acrylic like material [TS]

01:45:29   ok and it is stunning [TS]

01:45:32   it is absolutely stunning and it's so [TS]

01:45:34   difficult to photograph because the [TS]

01:45:37   beauty in it is all in the way that the [TS]

01:45:38   lights hit spoken like a man who runs [TS]

01:45:41   the pen podcast we're looking at these [TS]

01:45:42   pictures and I couldn't tell the [TS]

01:45:43   difference from plastic from the photos [TS]

01:45:45   like I was a plastic I like this picture [TS]

01:45:48   that i found hear of someone who has a [TS]

01:45:51   pen that matches their Bentley this is [TS]

01:45:55   like a place in there Bentley car for [TS]

01:45:57   this matching pen [TS]

01:45:58   I'm sure you've already seen this [TS]

01:46:00   ridiculous photo i look at that so i [TS]

01:46:02   guess like this is this is just a thing [TS]

01:46:04   that exists in the luxury world this is [TS]

01:46:06   you want to have a you want to have a [TS]

01:46:08   thousand-dollar pen that matches the [TS]

01:46:10   interior of your car perfectly [TS]

01:46:13   this is the kind of thing that you can [TS]

01:46:15   do [TS]

01:46:15   if I as high and cars would be that one [TS]

01:46:18   you really into these bends Mike I [TS]

01:46:21   really am yes I've opened opened a [TS]

01:46:24   terrible door by bringing it up on that [TS]

01:46:25   like that like that have time to close [TS]

01:46:27   it before we lose all of our sins if you [TS]

01:46:30   have but if you are at all interested if [TS]

01:46:32   there is a weekly podcast which has been [TS]

01:46:34   going on for over three years we are and [TS]

01:46:38   we're approaching episode 208 scorp an [TS]

01:46:41   addict and we talk about this stuff [TS]

01:46:43   every single week and lots of people [TS]

01:46:46   listen to it can't believe with weekly [TS]