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◼   ► hey great where are you hi mike i am in [TS]

◼   ► north carolina now start of the summer [TS]

◼   ► of fun is no some summer fun with you [TS]

◼   ► get summer fun from this is this is not [TS]

◼   ► a thing what it is is a hashtag summer a [TS]

◼   ► vastly more travel than i would like not [TS]

◼   ► fun that's test the summer hashtag [TS]

◼   ► occurring here I don't think you [TS]

◼   ► understand our hashtags work [TS]

◼   ► what do you mean flow along slowly looks [TS]

◼   ► like I think I I think I'm fantastic and [TS]

◼   ► hashtags someone will use that hashtag [TS]

◼   ► but they will now someone's having that [TS]

◼   ► summer to use that hashtag little group [TS]

◼   ► of people who are I know also having [TS]

◼   ► summers of many travels and and not fun [TS]

◼   ► discussing the amount of hashtag that's [TS]

◼   ► how it works [TS]

◼   ► I use Twitter I know how the Twitter [TS]

◼   ► works Mike sounds like it but yes for [TS]

◼   ► the moment for the moment I am visiting [TS]

◼   ► my parents in North Carolina and I'm [TS]

◼   ► talking to you from my temporary [TS]

◼   ► recording studio means cool text [TS]

◼   ► messages on the way [TS]

◼   ► oh yeah summer court xmas one of the six [TS]

◼   ► annual cortex mrs. coming up very [TS]

◼   ► shortly grow it multiplies when is that [TS]

◼   ► coming up [TS]

◼   ► I don't know what I forget when is that [TS]

◼   ► what I think it's in august sometime [TS]

◼   ► okay you want the people to know that [TS]

◼   ► there's going to be a missing episode in [TS]

◼   ► August I I feel like I have to tell them [TS]

◼   ► i know you would prefer to just never [TS]

◼   ► tell them but i want to listen to know I [TS]

◼   ► think you should not tell them i think [TS]

◼   ► people should just be surprised when its [TS]

◼   ► core Texas you never know when it's [TS]

◼   ► going to be court xmas I don't think [TS]

◼   ► it's a surprise if something doesn't [TS]

◼   ► arrive I don't think like all surprised [TS]

◼   ► no episode i don't think people think [TS]

◼   ► that well I mean we know we know there's [TS]

◼   ► the regular right there's this Christmas [TS]

◼   ► court xmas of course right there's a [TS]

◼   ► summer court xmas and then and then [TS]

◼   ► there are you know maybe eight to ten [TS]

◼   ► random cortex mrs. throughout the year [TS]

◼   ► there are many attempts at multiple [TS]

◼   ► texts around the year but Mike always [TS]

◼   ► pulls me back people [TS]

◼   ► the point is trying to eke an extra [TS]

◼   ► quart xmas Adam I think innocently [TS]

◼   ► messaging him and now it's like oh no [TS]

◼   ► we're going to record a show today some [TS]

◼   ► recording show today with you and I'm [TS]

◼   ► very happy to be here Mike say something [TS]

◼   ► I was very happy about and in the rennet [TS]

◼   ► from the last episode many people who [TS]

◼   ► had applied for the animation [TS]

◼   ► illustration position in cgpgrey [TS]

◼   ► industries were posting their videos in [TS]

◼   ► the red thread which was really cool so [TS]

◼   ► there's a bunch and now I'll include a [TS]

◼   ► couple links in the show notes to some [TS]

◼   ► threads where you'll find some of the [TS]

◼   ► videos that will put in the in the red [TS]

◼   ► and it was just really interesting to [TS]

◼   ► see the different takes that people had [TS]

◼   ► and I really liked it so I'll encourage [TS]

◼   ► anybody else to post in the reddit their [TS]

◼   ► videos that they submit if they're [TS]

◼   ► interested in sharing them because it [TS]

◼   ► was really cool to see and also think [TS]

◼   ► considering how much we've spoken about [TS]

◼   ► this and you know you kind of gone [TS]

◼   ► through the process I think it adds a [TS]

◼   ► lot of context to kind of the way that [TS]

◼   ► it's going through and maybe people can [TS]

◼   ► control I insist to type of thing you're [TS]

◼   ► looking for by looking at what maybe [TS]

◼   ► didn't get through [TS]

◼   ► I think it's really interesting to see [TS]

◼   ► how its evolving I was kind of surprised [TS]

◼   ► at how much interest there was around [TS]

◼   ► this but I saw a whole bunch of people [TS]

◼   ► were seem to be having fun [TS]

◼   ► no posting those applications and and [TS]

◼   ► talking about them maybe even some [TS]

◼   ► people were like you know it was like a [TS]

◼   ► little a little group of people who were [TS]

◼   ► also each critiquing yeah the [TS]

◼   ► applications and like giving feedback [TS]

◼   ► the internet always surprises me in in [TS]

◼   ► in these ways and then this is one of [TS]

◼   ► those times in my all this there was a [TS]

◼   ► lot of a lot of interest in this and a [TS]

◼   ► lot of interesting discussion so yes if [TS]

◼   ► you are listening to cortex [TS]

◼   ► presumably this is the thing that was [TS]

◼   ► probably of interest to you since you've [TS]

◼   ► stuck with that stuck with us through [TS]

◼   ► whatever it is so far two or three [TS]

◼   ► episodes of me talking about hiring a [TS]

◼   ► person so if you were if you want to see [TS]

◼   ► a bit more of the behind-the-scenes of [TS]

◼   ► that Mike will put the appropriate links [TS]

◼   ► in the show notes whilst we're talking [TS]

◼   ► about other people promoting something [TS]

◼   ► that they're doing i would like to [TS]

◼   ► promote something that I'm doing so I [TS]

◼   ► have it I have a new project and I [TS]

◼   ► wanted to let the cortex listeners know [TS]

◼   ► about great i have a question Mike is a [TS]

◼   ► podcast it is about cars how could you [TS]

◼   ► have guessed how could you have guess i [TS]

◼   ► have to say it seems quite out of [TS]

◼   ► character for you to an enemy starting a [TS]

◼   ► new podcast it seems I am very surprised [TS]

◼   ► by this show called ingenious and [TS]

◼   ► ingenious explores weird and wonderful [TS]

◼   ► with [TS]

◼   ► superior articles so this is me and my [TS]

◼   ► real FM co-founder Steven accurate we [TS]

◼   ► did this show together and like 2011 was [TS]

◼   ► our first ever show together and we [TS]

◼   ► decided to bring it back for a new [TS]

◼   ► season when you listen to a genius to [TS]

◼   ► you will gain some interesting knowledge [TS]

◼   ► about things you'll probably never use [TS]

◼   ► again fantastic that's what we promised [TS]

◼   ► the first episode is about action park [TS]

◼   ► which is probably the most dangerous [TS]

◼   ► water park in US history [TS]

◼   ► no but that's all I'm going to say for [TS]

◼   ► now but I want to know more [TS]

◼   ► I want to know more right now where do i [TS]

◼   ► need to go for this free later femslash [TS]

◼   ► ingenious and there will be a link in [TS]

◼   ► the show notes to all right go check out [TS]

◼   ► this news a fun show is something that [TS]

◼   ► kind of different for us [TS]

◼   ► I really I really I really enjoy making [TS]

◼   ► it and I think people will enjoy [TS]

◼   ► listening to it we've got some really [TS]

◼   ► weird stuff in the pipeline [TS]

◼   ► I do i do have to say I've seen a little [TS]

◼   ► bit of the the behind-the-scenes stuff [TS]

◼   ► and I can see that you put you put a lot [TS]

◼   ► of work into this one and it sounds [TS]

◼   ► super interesting what I want to know [TS]

◼   ► mike is how on earth do you have time in [TS]

◼   ► your schedule for another podcast how [TS]

◼   ► many how many podcasts is this now in [TS]

◼   ► total that you do eat maybe eight maybe [TS]

◼   ► why I forget the number [TS]

◼   ► that can't be right one no listen lose [TS]

◼   ► them out Mike do this right what are the [TS]

◼   ► shows what do you do [TS]

◼   ► analog ok analog ananza ananza connected [TS]

◼   ► connected cortex cortex remaster [TS]

◼   ► remaster the panicked the pan addict [TS]

◼   ► thoroughly considered thoroughly [TS]

◼   ► considered ingenious ingenious and [TS]

◼   ► upgrade and upgrade [TS]

◼   ► ok so that's nine podcasts [TS]

◼   ► yeah that's a lot a lot but it's my job [TS]

◼   ► this is what I do for a living oh is [TS]

◼   ► that believe it or not I did not I did [TS]

◼   ► not realize that that that it's amazing [TS]

◼   ► i don't know i don't know how you do it [TS]

◼   ► i am super impressed that you are able [TS]

◼   ► to do as as many as you do and enjoy [TS]

◼   ► this thing to a whole bunch of them and [TS]

◼   ► i'm glad you make them [TS]

◼   ► I just I just don't know how you do it [TS]

◼   ► I'm very impressed and there's yet [TS]

◼   ► another one level and is more on the way [TS]

◼   ► home or on the way constant what's up [TS]

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◼   ► before we started recording today [TS]

◼   ► you tweeted something that piqued my [TS]

◼   ► interest immediately it was a photograph [TS]

◼   ► of to apple devices one on top of the [TS]

◼   ► other one of them is an interesting [TS]

◼   ► color it's a space gray color and it's a [TS]

◼   ► macbook when you've bought a macbook [TS]

◼   ► have bought a macbook [TS]

◼   ► ok a macbook one the macbook one the [TS]

◼   ► little tiny one with the single USB port [TS]

◼   ► i'm recording on it right now as we [TS]

◼   ► speak oh my i finished setting it up a [TS]

◼   ► mere hour ago before we started at [TS]

◼   ► position did you like forget to bring a [TS]

◼   ► mac or something on your trip here I I [TS]

◼   ► didn't bring them back on my trip I had [TS]

◼   ► this shipped to my parents house waitin [TS]

◼   ► for me because apple stuff is way [TS]

◼   ► cheaper in america i knew i wanted to [TS]

◼   ► get one of these and so that would be [TS]

◼   ► foolish to hide in the UK and I won't [TS]

◼   ► need it to live in my parents house and [TS]

◼   ► i'm recording a podcast with Mike so I [TS]

◼   ► just had it shipped in advance waiting [TS]

◼   ► for me in a little box and then finish [TS]

◼   ► setting up this morning that I could be [TS]

◼   ► recording this podcast with you right [TS]

◼   ► now [TS]

◼   ► why did you buy this why did you want [TS]

◼   ► one when you have the macbook pro right [TS]

◼   ► okay yeah i have a macbook pro hey look [TS]

◼   ► up no judgment i have two ipads right [TS]

◼   ► like I'm just talking [TS]

◼   ► did I don't feel I don't feel judged for [TS]

◼   ► what I feel is I posted this because I [TS]

◼   ► ok so i got the this little macbook one [TS]

◼   ► and I brought with me on my travels my [TS]

◼   ► 12.9 inch iPad bro and it's just funny [TS]

◼   ► when you unbox the macbook one next to [TS]

◼   ► an ipad pro because it's a tiny little [TS]

◼   ► thing it's it's a weird moment when you [TS]

◼   ► realized wait a minute i own an ipad [TS]

◼   ► that is significantly bigger then my [TS]

◼   ► laptop and my mac laptop is it so it's a [TS]

◼   ► weird little moment [TS]

◼   ► yeah and so i I just I thought like oh [TS]

◼   ► this is this is kind of interesting that [TS]

◼   ► these tooth like the size difference in [TS]

◼   ► these two things it's it feels like a [TS]

◼   ► bizarre crossover moment in technology [TS]

◼   ► like this like this should never happen [TS]

◼   ► but here we are like we're through the [TS]

◼   ► looking glass people iPads are bigger [TS]

◼   ► than max and so I just thought oh let me [TS]

◼   ► take a picture of this like I thought [TS]

◼   ► this was kind of interesting as always [TS]

◼   ► these things on Twitter you seem like a [TS]

◼   ► surprising reaction from just a bunch of [TS]

◼   ► people who are like what the hell is [TS]

◼   ► going on like what is happening what's [TS]

◼   ► this crazy is like why would anybody do [TS]

◼   ► this and so is always with the stuff I [TS]

◼   ► just find myself surprised that what [TS]

◼   ► from my perspective seem like i just [TS]

◼   ► thought about some stuff for the summer [TS]

◼   ► and I made [TS]

◼   ► the decision and I got a piece of [TS]

◼   ► equipment and then there's the seems to [TS]

◼   ► feel like people freaking out and like [TS]

◼   ► riding in the streets but like why is [TS]

◼   ► this happening I don't understand [TS]

◼   ► explain it to me I feel like I don't [TS]

◼   ► know what to explain it's all it's all [TS]

◼   ► quite reasonable from my perspective I [TS]

◼   ► think part of it comes from the fact [TS]

◼   ► that this is a controversial computer [TS]

◼   ► right that you know it has the single [TS]

◼   ► USBC port which is kind of weird and not [TS]

◼   ► widely supported and adopted its super [TS]

◼   ► thin and it's has been underpowered and [TS]

◼   ► it's a little better now and it's um [TS]

◼   ► it's just a strange computer room [TS]

◼   ► anyways the keyboard is different and [TS]

◼   ► not more than a lot of people like it so [TS]

◼   ► just seeing a seeing anybody buy this [TS]

◼   ► machine over the last few months that [TS]

◼   ► has been available this is always been [TS]

◼   ► like what is your reason for this so [TS]

◼   ► that is why it's interesting to me [TS]

◼   ► especially because a lot of the stuff [TS]

◼   ► that you do on a Mac takes em probably [TS]

◼   ► more computing power than this thing [TS]

◼   ► comfortably gives em because you use a [TS]

◼   ► mac now for very specific task right [TS]

◼   ► we've outlined in the show making videos [TS]

◼   ► recording podcasts and playing games and [TS]

◼   ► I don't think that this computer will be [TS]

◼   ► really good any of those things so like [TS]

◼   ► partly what I wanted to talk to you [TS]

◼   ► about this i just wanted to check the [TS]

◼   ► even you that we added did you think me [TS]

◼   ► out like I just didn't know what I was [TS]

◼   ► even buying it as well [TS]

◼   ► shiny right you do look how small and [TS]

◼   ► light [TS]

◼   ► I like that the first of all I was [TS]

◼   ► perfectly aware of this look let me let [TS]

◼   ► me let me let me walk you through this [TS]

◼   ► and so I've actually i was in [TS]

◼   ► preparation for the summer which I've [TS]

◼   ► been dreading for months and and [TS]

◼   ► reference many times like I have the [TS]

◼   ► summer of just a ton of flights and [TS]

◼   ► family stuff and then and just like so [TS]

◼   ► much travel occurring that I'm just [TS]

◼   ► exhausted thinking about it you know [TS]

◼   ► telling of how many how many flights [TS]

◼   ► going to do and also thinking that the [TS]

◼   ► course of this summer is essentially [TS]

◼   ► that I'm i have pretty much three months [TS]

◼   ► in a row of a very heavy constant travel [TS]

◼   ► so I'm going I'm going to be moving [TS]

◼   ► around a lot [TS]

◼   ► write a and I've been thinking about and [TS]

◼   ► and preparing for this in a whole bunch [TS]

◼   ► of ways of trying to think about how can [TS]

◼   ► I make this summer as tolerable as [TS]

◼   ► possible but all and and also a question [TS]

◼   ► of okay i know that i am going to in one [TS]

◼   ► way because i'm doing so much stuff I [TS]

◼   ► have to ramp down some of the work that [TS]

◼   ► i'm doing like I can't keep up my normal [TS]

◼   ► work schedule and then also add on top [TS]

◼   ► of it like all of this this travel and [TS]

◼   ► like family obligations and things like [TS]

◼   ► it's just it's just not possible but I [TS]

◼   ► just like but i do need to do some work [TS]

◼   ► like what's happening at this very [TS]

◼   ► moment like we're recording an episode [TS]

◼   ► of the podcast stuff still needs to [TS]

◼   ► happen and so I was I've been thinking [TS]

◼   ► about it for a while about like what am [TS]

◼   ► I gonna do what am I going to do and I [TS]

◼   ► was kind of running through all of the [TS]

◼   ► pieces of software that I use and and I [TS]

◼   ► was essentially working on an article [TS]

◼   ► trying to outline a bunch of these [TS]

◼   ► thoughts and in the process of writing [TS]

◼   ► that article i came to the conclusion of [TS]

◼   ► I I know what I can do I have a solution [TS]

◼   ► for this [TS]

◼   ► what I'm going to do is I'm going to buy [TS]

◼   ► the macbook one and bring that with me [TS]

◼   ► as my work computer for a few very [TS]

◼   ► specific tasks and while it is not the [TS]

◼   ► most powerful computer i did test out [TS]

◼   ► the thing that matters most to me which [TS]

◼   ► is podcasting on the road is is this a [TS]

◼   ► machine that can do podcasting on the [TS]

◼   ► road it's the home and actually did was [TS]

◼   ► I uploaded a couple of audio files to a [TS]

◼   ► private and anonymous dropbox URL and [TS]

◼   ► then I went into an apple store and I [TS]

◼   ► went to one of the macbook ones that [TS]

◼   ► they had on the table huh [TS]

◼   ► and i downloaded those files and was [TS]

◼   ► doing some audio editing with them in [TS]

◼   ► the store on the macbook just to make [TS]

◼   ► sure like can I do this [TS]

◼   ► can this machine comfortably handle [TS]

◼   ► doing audio and like it doesn't have to [TS]

◼   ► be the fastest thing it doesn't have to [TS]

◼   ► act [TS]

◼   ► sport these things you know at at the [TS]

◼   ► drop of a hat but can i edit audio [TS]

◼   ► without it stuttering can adjust handle [TS]

◼   ► all of this stuff and it handled it [TS]

◼   ► completely fine and i was looking at [TS]

◼   ► some of the cpu numbers on it about like [TS]

◼   ► how powerful is this compared to [TS]

◼   ► previous computers that i own and while [TS]

◼   ► people talk about how it's super slow [TS]

◼   ► but i also look back at some of the old [TS]

◼   ► computers i own and realize yes but I [TS]

◼   ► you know I've made videos on computers [TS]

◼   ► that were way slower than this thing [TS]

◼   ► currently it yes it did just get a lot [TS]

◼   ► better for the record like a lot of the [TS]

◼   ► complaints about it it's [TS]

◼   ► underperformance when it was originally [TS]

◼   ► released [TS]

◼   ► yeah and and the new one is is better [TS]

◼   ► but it's you know something like twenty [TS]

◼   ► percent better in a yeah it's it's it's [TS]

◼   ► still it's still not like a [TS]

◼   ► top-of-the-line computing machine it's [TS]

◼   ► not that but as always with thinking [TS]

◼   ► about work right and thinking about the [TS]

◼   ► way that we're doing stuff but like what [TS]

◼   ► I'm always trying to look for is what is [TS]

◼   ► the appropriate tool for the task at [TS]

◼   ► hand and this machine really seemed to [TS]

◼   ► just fit perfectly as an appropriate [TS]

◼   ► tool for the task at hand because i was [TS]

◼   ► looking at my brick of obligation my [TS]

◼   ► 15-inch 30-pound macbook pro and I [TS]

◼   ► thought I will not bring you any where [TS]

◼   ► machine right especially with the [TS]

◼   ► knowledge that like what I'm doing [TS]

◼   ► tonight today that over the course of [TS]

◼   ► the summer the number of times i'm going [TS]

◼   ► to need an open this machine is maybe [TS]

◼   ► once or twice a week like I do not want [TS]

◼   ► to have to bring this incredible heavy [TS]

◼   ► bulky big thing in what I'm trying to [TS]

◼   ► make like the smallest lightest possible [TS]

◼   ► suitcase that i can bring with me [TS]

◼   ► everywhere that i go like I want to [TS]

◼   ► maximize for travel pneus and this [TS]

◼   ► machine has adequate power to do the [TS]

◼   ► things that I needed to do and if it if [TS]

◼   ► I have to let it run for half an hour to [TS]

◼   ► export an episode of a podcast because [TS]

◼   ► it doesn't do it super fast it doesn't [TS]

◼   ► matter you know AI can just let it run [TS]

◼   ► all that matters is what i'm using it [TS]

◼   ► doesn't stutter and and it seemed to it [TS]

◼   ► seem to be the case and even some of the [TS]

◼   ► complaints that people had about this [TS]

◼   ► computer about [TS]

◼   ► like the the keyboard and while I don't [TS]

◼   ► love the keyboard it doesn't matter [TS]

◼   ► because you don't write on it exactly [TS]

◼   ► doing podcasting or if I'm doing a [TS]

◼   ► little bit of animating or illustrating [TS]

◼   ► i'm not using the keyboard right that's [TS]

◼   ► like I have I brought my Amex wireless [TS]

◼   ► mouse with me to use an input devices [TS]

◼   ► like I'm not gonna use the keyboard the [TS]

◼   ► keyboard for my work is just a row of [TS]

◼   ► buttons that happened to do things if [TS]

◼   ► i'm going to type something i'm going to [TS]

◼   ► take out my lovely ipad pro and i'm [TS]

◼   ► going to write something on that because [TS]

◼   ► i love that keyboard and like and that [TS]

◼   ► thing is absolutely fantastic [TS]

◼   ► so even though it seemed kind of strange [TS]

◼   ► i came to the conclusion that this pair [TS]

◼   ► of machines my big ipad and now a tiny [TS]

◼   ► little adorable macbook is actually a [TS]

◼   ► fantastic working pair for me if I'm [TS]

◼   ► going to be doing a lot of travel and [TS]

◼   ► and I've just you know was just setting [TS]

◼   ► it up and just playing around with a [TS]

◼   ► little bit and so far it's like this is [TS]

◼   ► great like this this thing seems like [TS]

◼   ► it's it's it's well suited to the task [TS]

◼   ► and i just i absolutely love how small [TS]

◼   ► is so I so far i'm a big fan big fan of [TS]

◼   ► the macbook adorables I've gotten close [TS]

◼   ► to doing this exact thing multiple times [TS]

◼   ► for the exact same reasons that i am [TS]

◼   ► about to go on a trip and I'm going to [TS]

◼   ► be taking my macbook pro with me in case [TS]

◼   ► of podcast editing emergencies and I [TS]

◼   ► couldn't be less happy about this [TS]

◼   ► scenario [TS]

◼   ► yeah because I'm taking my 9.7 inch iPad [TS]

◼   ► pro and this like huge honkin piece of [TS]

◼   ► metal with me which feels like a [TS]

◼   ► comparatively it weighs a million pounds [TS]

◼   ► it really died because i wouldn't even [TS]

◼   ► know why i pad was in my bag it really [TS]

◼   ► does [TS]

◼   ► so I have considered this for the same [TS]

◼   ► reason of like honestly now i only use a [TS]

◼   ► mac book when i travel for podcast [TS]

◼   ► editing so really I need a computer that [TS]

◼   ► is more suited to that exact ask so thin [TS]

◼   ► and light is exactly what I'm looking [TS]

◼   ► for five held off on the macbook I was [TS]

◼   ► gonna get one [TS]

◼   ► I thought to myself when they were [TS]

◼   ► revved so the one usual [TS]

◼   ► so it'd be a bit more powerful but now [TS]

◼   ► there are like rumors on the horizon at [TS]

◼   ► the new macbook pro mhm and basically if [TS]

◼   ► that is much thinner a much lighter than [TS]

◼   ► what I've currently got it's gonna be an [TS]

◼   ► improvement [TS]

◼   ► even if it's not the thinnest and [TS]

◼   ► lightest right and it will also have the [TS]

◼   ► power that I'm used to so I'm gonna wait [TS]

◼   ► to see what that looks like but I'm [TS]

◼   ► considering doing the same thing because [TS]

◼   ► I think if anybody can draw some kind of [TS]

◼   ► like overall feeling that me and you [TS]

◼   ► both have and you know people say that I [TS]

◼   ► seem to agree of you a lot [TS]

◼   ► it's because i'm super reasonable that's [TS]

◼   ► what of course i think if we just think [TS]

◼   ► about some things in the same way and [TS]

◼   ► one of those things that mean you really [TS]

◼   ► seem to agree on a lot is having the [TS]

◼   ► right tool for the right job [TS]

◼   ► yeah and the macro that I have right now [TS]

◼   ► is not the right tool for the right job [TS]

◼   ► because it is big and heavy because it's [TS]

◼   ► powerful right it has the maximum power [TS]

◼   ► but I don't need maximum power I need [TS]

◼   ► maximum portability now right because [TS]

◼   ► i'm only using this machine when I am [TS]

◼   ► away from home so I need the best [TS]

◼   ► machine for traveling so if the new [TS]

◼   ► macbook pro too thin and light macbook [TS]

◼   ► pro isn't thin enough and light enough [TS]

◼   ► then i will go the macbook route what [TS]

◼   ► you say there it makes me think of of [TS]

◼   ► the sunk cost fallacy of where people [TS]

◼   ► overvalue investments that they have [TS]

◼   ► made in the past for thing that they are [TS]

◼   ► working on when thinking about decisions [TS]

◼   ► today and so that the like the way you [TS]

◼   ► think about it is you and I have each in [TS]

◼   ► the past bought macbook pros because i [TS]

◼   ► got mine two summers ago when i was when [TS]

◼   ► i was looking at a similar thing like i [TS]

◼   ► am going to be away for the summer but [TS]

◼   ► my work was also relatively different [TS]

◼   ► than I was planning on doing a [TS]

◼   ► significant amount of work it's like [TS]

◼   ► okay well this machine is the best [TS]

◼   ► machine at that time to to get i'm going [TS]

◼   ► to be working on a bunch of going to [TS]

◼   ► doing a bunch of animating i got was [TS]

◼   ► using it as a primary production machine [TS]

◼   ► back then it was like okay so i got that [TS]

◼   ► whatever was two years ago i think and i [TS]

◼   ► own that machine and so in some ways it [TS]

◼   ► feels foolish to just get another tiny [TS]

◼   ► laptop but it's it's a case of sunk cost [TS]

◼   ► fallacy [TS]

◼   ► see if I didn't own that macbook pro and [TS]

◼   ► I was standing in an apple store laptop [TS]

◼   ► 'less and looking around and thinking [TS]

◼   ► what is the best computer for me to take [TS]

◼   ► with me this summer [TS]

◼   ► there's no way i would pick that macbook [TS]

◼   ► pro it wouldn't even it wouldn't even be [TS]

◼   ► in the running as a possible machine to [TS]

◼   ► take and that's an example like trying [TS]

◼   ► to to reframe decision-making in the [TS]

◼   ► context of now and like whatever that [TS]

◼   ► what are the resources available now [TS]

◼   ► what are the requirements for what you [TS]

◼   ► need now what is the best solution to [TS]

◼   ► solve this problem now [TS]

◼   ► like don't get don't get distracted by [TS]

◼   ► the sunk cost fallacy like oh I used to [TS]

◼   ► do things this way right or I happen to [TS]

◼   ► have this this equipment currently as I [TS]

◼   ► know what is the solution now that is [TS]

◼   ► the optimal solution for this problem [TS]

◼   ► and as you mentioned i think night it [TS]

◼   ► just occurred to me but maybe one of the [TS]

◼   ► reasons why people are no seams on [TS]

◼   ► Twitter to have a surprising amount of [TS]

◼   ► reaction to to be posting this was like [TS]

◼   ► was as you said this is what we're [TS]

◼   ► recording this probably literally days [TS]

◼   ► before Apple might be announcing new [TS]

◼   ► macbook pros like it seems very likely [TS]

◼   ► that they're going to announce new [TS]

◼   ► macbook pros at WWDC and it vaguely [TS]

◼   ► crossed my mind but but that was also a [TS]

◼   ► case of well if they announce new [TS]

◼   ► macbooks that that still doesn't that [TS]

◼   ► doesn't help me this summer right he [TS]

◼   ► even if I could literally go to WWDC and [TS]

◼   ► Tim Cook was handing out macbook pros to [TS]

◼   ► everybody and it's like I'm gonna fly to [TS]

◼   ► WWDC like it is going to hand me a [TS]

◼   ► macbook pro right like even if i could [TS]

◼   ► get macbook pros on day one it doesn't [TS]

◼   ► change the fact that well there's some [TS]

◼   ► things that I need to do before their [TS]

◼   ► announcement right it's just like well I [TS]

◼   ► i need a computer now for things that [TS]

◼   ► happened this week and if i bring my [TS]

◼   ► macbook pro that means i'm traveling [TS]

◼   ► with this macbook pro for at least five [TS]

◼   ► weeks before i come to a break we could [TS]

◼   ► like swap over machines that's not going [TS]

◼   ► to happen it's not gonna happen so it's [TS]

◼   ► yeah I think you're right it is it is a [TS]

◼   ► case of trying [TS]

◼   ► you think about what is what is the best [TS]

◼   ► tool for the job available and even [TS]

◼   ► though it's like it's a funny little [TS]

◼   ► machine and there's a bunch of [TS]

◼   ► complaints about it I'd I think it I [TS]

◼   ► think it is is the best solution for me [TS]

◼   ► right now and also thinking about the [TS]

◼   ► future of my work you know we talked a [TS]

◼   ► lot about how we have both been [TS]

◼   ► transitioning to ipad pros and doing [TS]

◼   ► more and more of our work on there and [TS]

◼   ► I've been thinking about that a lot but [TS]

◼   ► the one thing that I wonder you know [TS]

◼   ► even a year or two from now that I might [TS]

◼   ► not ever be able to get away from is [TS]

◼   ► doing podcasting on a mac for a variety [TS]

◼   ► of reasons like I'm very curious to see [TS]

◼   ► if that's a thing that I can ever get [TS]

◼   ► rid of and i'm not super convinced that [TS]

◼   ► that I will be able to do that and and [TS]

◼   ► so I i wonder if this is just going to [TS]

◼   ► end up being my new working solution for [TS]

◼   ► a very long time in the same way that I [TS]

◼   ► used to have a mac desktop and a laptop [TS]

◼   ► that I would work with that now my my [TS]

◼   ► default computer setup will be the [TS]

◼   ► biggest ipad i can bring with me and the [TS]

◼   ► smallest mac that i can bring with me [TS]

◼   ► and now this is just for the next couple [TS]

◼   ► of years maybe the default traveling [TS]

◼   ► situation I wonder this whole scenario [TS]

◼   ► is one of the best and worst things [TS]

◼   ► about doing the type of work that we do [TS]

◼   ► which is creating things that are part [TS]

◼   ► of the internet because what happens is [TS]

◼   ► you end up moving with the times and as [TS]

◼   ► computers become more powerful the type [TS]

◼   ► of work that we do on them becomes more [TS]

◼   ► complex so you end up in a scenario [TS]

◼   ► where your workflows are changing and [TS]

◼   ► the tools are changing around you so you [TS]

◼   ► buy new ones and you adapt and you [TS]

◼   ► change which is why we spend so much [TS]

◼   ► money on this stuff but it's because we [TS]

◼   ► both see it as a necessary thing to get [TS]

◼   ► the work done in the best fastest most [TS]

◼   ► productive way the interesting and the [TS]

◼   ► difficult part about being self-employed [TS]

◼   ► it is getting good just talking about [TS]

◼   ► you know getting this machine it relates [TS]

◼   ► to a bunch of our conversations in the [TS]

◼   ► past about how when you are on your own [TS]

◼   ► and when it is just you you are [TS]

◼   ► responsible for building the environment [TS]

◼   ► around you right and and and that [TS]

◼   ► environment is his things like what are [TS]

◼   ► the email clients that you're using for [TS]

◼   ► example right or how do you arrange your [TS]

◼   ► calendar or how do you think about [TS]

◼   ► routines or what are the tools that your [TS]

◼   ► you're using because there there's [TS]

◼   ► nobody else who's saying welcome to [TS]

◼   ► giant corporate co enjoy using outlook [TS]

◼   ► express forever and that's just not a [TS]

◼   ► decision that you make [TS]

◼   ► it's like every every tiny bit about the [TS]

◼   ► working world and the environment that [TS]

◼   ► you are operating in is under your [TS]

◼   ► control which is amazing but it is also [TS]

◼   ► your responsibility and obligation to [TS]

◼   ► continually reevaluate as part of your [TS]

◼   ► job [TS]

◼   ► I think it's really interesting that [TS]

◼   ► there's this phenomenon I don't have a [TS]

◼   ► better way to describe it it's how i [TS]

◼   ► noticed that things can become invisible [TS]

◼   ► to people like things that are just [TS]

◼   ► either the way they do stuff or objects [TS]

◼   ► in their environment it's like if you're [TS]

◼   ► for example like with this laptop of [TS]

◼   ► them of having an old macbook pro is [TS]

◼   ► like the macbook pro can in a way become [TS]

◼   ► an invisible thing that you just don't [TS]

◼   ► think about or you just don't really you [TS]

◼   ► ate and I feel that way about routines [TS]

◼   ► and about all kinds of tools that it is [TS]

◼   ► in the course of human life right it is [TS]

◼   ► it is just valuable to consciously cast [TS]

◼   ► the eye of your mind and the the focus [TS]

◼   ► of your attention on all of the aspects [TS]

◼   ► of your life because these things just [TS]

◼   ► become invisible and they become normal [TS]

◼   ► and you don't really value ate them and [TS]

◼   ► you don't think if I was starting a new [TS]

◼   ► today [TS]

◼   ► hey is this the way that I would set up [TS]

◼   ► things like is the way that I'm [TS]

◼   ► currently doing things now the most [TS]

◼   ► effective way to work [TS]

◼   ► it's it's just very very useful to [TS]

◼   ► consciously refocus your mind on these [TS]

◼   ► things from time to time and it's it is [TS]

◼   ► not easy to do again it's not easy to do [TS]

◼   ► but I i think it is a useful endeavor [TS]

◼   ► and it's partly why you when i do this [TS]

◼   ► show together and we know we talked for [TS]

◼   ► many hours about in some sense seemingly [TS]

◼   ► minor decisions about which which tool [TS]

◼   ► is the best under under which [TS]

◼   ► circumstances but it's because we we are [TS]

◼   ► both aware of this thing of like rethink [TS]

◼   ► your environment rethink your tools we [TS]

◼   ► think the way that you do things and [TS]

◼   ► just look about for if there is a better [TS]

◼   ► way to do what you are currently doing [TS]

◼   ► I think it's like we work a Jason to an [TS]

◼   ► industry that is constantly moving and [TS]

◼   ► evolving then that's true it's very [TS]

◼   ► beneficial for us to remain nimble and [TS]

◼   ► be willing to adapt and change so we're [TS]

◼   ► actually able to look at and and and [TS]

◼   ► work within and around the industry that [TS]

◼   ► we're focused on em at least that's what [TS]

◼   ► I tell myself when I'm spending 500 [TS]

◼   ► pounds in the app store whatever you [TS]

◼   ► gotta do man whatever you got to do i do [TS]

◼   ► have one thing to say Mike about this [TS]

◼   ► macbook adorable so we calling about [TS]

◼   ► well it's adorable it is it is like the [TS]

◼   ► you know but it's like I just it's so [TS]

◼   ► funny because I just keep thinking like [TS]

◼   ► look at this big powerful like ipad pro [TS]

◼   ► it's such a beast like it's an immediate [TS]

◼   ► work with young and then and the next [TS]

◼   ► was like I look at that adorable little [TS]

◼   ► mac i look at that little guy yeah [TS]

◼   ► that's how I feel about my 9.7 inch ipad [TS]

◼   ► i have more feelings towards it because [TS]

◼   ► he's so little [TS]

◼   ► right there and lie tangent here but i [TS]

◼   ► remember reading years ago that this is [TS]

◼   ► an actual human cognitive bias that [TS]

◼   ► humans are more forgiving of problems [TS]

◼   ► with objects that are smaller than [TS]

◼   ► objects that are bigger just in [TS]

◼   ► Adam and objects so that if they think [TS]

◼   ► that is a smaller physical object [TS]

◼   ► doesn't work perfectly humans are much [TS]

◼   ► more likely to forgive it in a big [TS]

◼   ► object that doesn't work perfectly so [TS]

◼   ► but it's like I can feel this bias and [TS]

◼   ► looking at these two devices like hey [TS]

◼   ► little guy hey little mac you up for [TS]

◼   ► recording a podcast stay like can you do [TS]

◼   ► this like let's give it go like let's [TS]

◼   ► give it a try right whereas if I was [TS]

◼   ► trying to do something on the ipad pro [TS]

◼   ► the big one it didn't work if you like [TS]

◼   ► you need to do this right every time [TS]

◼   ► buddy like c'mon were all lying on you [TS]

◼   ► hear you know it's like this is not an [TS]

◼   ► appropriate feeling for inanimate object [TS]

◼   ► but it's totally is so along those lines [TS]

◼   ► of hey buddy are you up for the podcast [TS]

◼   ► today the thing that did not occur to me [TS]

◼   ► as I was setting up the macbook adorable [TS]

◼   ► just this morning [TS]

◼   ► finishing before we started is that it [TS]

◼   ► does only have one port and how one port [TS]

◼   ► is connected to my microphone and we are [TS]

◼   ► rapidly running to the battery on my [TS]

◼   ► never fully charged macbook adorable so [TS]

◼   ► little [TS]

◼   ► will we get to the end of the show [TS]

◼   ► before my battery runs out [TS]

◼   ► stay tuned to find out we have [TS]

◼   ► sufficient time it'll it'll give me a [TS]

◼   ► warning you no don't you worry buddy [TS]

◼   ► let's just keep going let's keep going [TS]

◼   ► what's next on your list Mike you can [TS]

◼   ► hear it in your voice [TS]

◼   ► well now haha it's not to worry about [TS]

◼   ► now that I just don't think about it was [TS]

◼   ► next [TS]

◼   ► this episode of cortex is brought to you [TS]

◼   ► by igloo the internet you'll actually [TS]

◼   ► like with a glue you don't have to be [TS]

◼   ► stuck in your desk to do your work you [TS]

◼   ► can manage your task list from your [TS]

◼   ► laptop during a meeting share status [TS]

◼   ► updates from your phone as you're [TS]

◼   ► leaving the client site and access the [TS]

◼   ► latest version of a file from home these [TS]

◼   ► days everything is mobile and your work [TS]

◼   ► should be too [TS]

◼   ► now you're probably listening to the [TS]

◼   ► sound of my voice possibly at work and [TS]

◼   ► probably while using a terrible terrible [TS]

◼   ► internet igloo is not like that igloo [TS]

◼   ► allows you to make an Internet feel like [TS]

◼   ► a place that you actually want to get [TS]

◼   ► work done [TS]

◼   ► it's surprisingly configurable and you [TS]

◼   ► can completely rebrand it to give the [TS]

◼   ► look and feel of you [TS]

◼   ► for team and as an internet it's not [TS]

◼   ► separated from the outside world [TS]

◼   ► igloo also integrates with services like [TS]

◼   ► box Google Drive and Dropbox if your [TS]

◼   ► company right now with an internet that [TS]

◼   ► you just cannot stand to use you want to [TS]

◼   ► go find whoever is in charge of making [TS]

◼   ► this decision and tell them about a glue [TS]

◼   ► and when you do tell them to sign up at [TS]

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◼   ► knows where you came from [TS]

◼   ► it's time to escape that internet that [TS]

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◼   ► software.com / cortex and thanks so much [TS]

◼   ► to a glue for sporting cortex and all of [TS]

◼   ► real afm you recently put out a new [TS]

◼   ► video which was a kind of different [TS]

◼   ► style different kind of even from a [TS]

◼   ► business perspective type of a crossover [TS]

◼   ► video with in a nutshell cuz that curves [TS]

◼   ► cuts because that we talked a longtime [TS]

◼   ► listeners war remember me and you try to [TS]

◼   ► pronounce this channel quite some time [TS]

◼   ► ago and you put together a video about [TS]

◼   ► the left brain right brain which people [TS]

◼   ► should go and definitely watch but [TS]

◼   ► rather than talking about the video [TS]

◼   ► itself [TS]

◼   ► I'm interested in why and how this came [TS]

◼   ► about this like kind of a two-part [TS]

◼   ► crossover video so I Philip who is the [TS]

◼   ► main writer behind courts because that [TS]

◼   ► he and I have been some colleagues in [TS]

◼   ► business associates for awhile i don't [TS]

◼   ► remember exactly how we met in in the [TS]

◼   ► first place but don't worry we've known [TS]

◼   ► each other for maybe about a [TS]

◼   ► year-and-a-half at this point and we had [TS]

◼   ► always just vaguely talked about doing [TS]

◼   ► some kind of collaboration that at some [TS]

◼   ► stage and and like with I think with [TS]

◼   ► many YouTube creators you don't [TS]

◼   ► necessarily know what it is that you [TS]

◼   ► want to do but it's it's useful just to [TS]

◼   ► have it in the back of your mind about [TS]

◼   ► is is there an interesting thing that we [TS]

◼   ► can do and so every once in a while we [TS]

◼   ► would just talk and sort of discuss [TS]

◼   ► projects that we were working on [TS]

◼   ► sometimes because we were trying to make [TS]

◼   ► sure we didn't accidentally overlap with [TS]

◼   ► each other [TS]

◼   ► which did occur sometimes of like one or [TS]

◼   ► the other of us trying to avoid a topic [TS]

◼   ► because we knew that the other one was [TS]

◼   ► doing it like we don't want to get [TS]

◼   ► messed up with that of you know [TS]

◼   ► releasing a video the day after on the [TS]

◼   ► same thing but it's at some point we [TS]

◼   ► eventually came across these two topics [TS]

◼   ► one of which is about how your mind may [TS]

◼   ► be composed of these separate autonomous [TS]

◼   ► smaller elements and then he was [TS]

◼   ► thinking about a video about how your [TS]

◼   ► physical body is composed of these [TS]

◼   ► separatists onimous smaller elements [TS]

◼   ► that like exist in and of themselves and [TS]

◼   ► as we were talking about it we realized [TS]

◼   ► oh this is actually this is nice like [TS]

◼   ► these are related like there are two [TS]

◼   ► sides of the same coin that they both [TS]

◼   ► are touching on the notion of how you as [TS]

◼   ► a person are not as singular as you [TS]

◼   ► think you are you are a combination of a [TS]

◼   ► bunch of smaller things that can exist [TS]

◼   ► independently of what you think of is [TS]

◼   ► you and so we were talking about this [TS]

◼   ► and thought of this this is nice like [TS]

◼   ► this this works very well together and [TS]

◼   ► so this was actually we looked up the [TS]

◼   ► first conversations about this were back [TS]

◼   ► in November home early and so just to [TS]

◼   ► give people the timeframe the final [TS]

◼   ► videos were uploaded at the end of may [TS]

◼   ► and we were working on those videos for [TS]

◼   ► that length of time you know doing other [TS]

◼   ► projects at the same time but this was [TS]

◼   ► in the works and these things can [TS]

◼   ► sometimes take quite a long time to go [TS]

◼   ► from initial discussion to final final [TS]

◼   ► completed output i think from the style [TS]

◼   ► of your videos for very different [TS]

◼   ► reasons [TS]

◼   ► ok that's why do you say that uh there [TS]

◼   ► is a level of animation in the courses [TS]

◼   ► that videos which is a very different to [TS]

◼   ► yours you know [TS]

◼   ► oh yeah and I think that you are one man [TS]

◼   ► band mom and I believe there are [TS]

◼   ► multiple people that work on the couch [TS]

◼   ► because that videos [TS]

◼   ► yeah there's a big team that works on [TS]

◼   ► those things out there and and ungodly [TS]

◼   ► amount of human hours goes into the [TS]

◼   ► development [TS]

◼   ► of those videos and it certainly shows [TS]

◼   ► in the animation i was watching the [TS]

◼   ► videos and they're like these parts [TS]

◼   ► where they create these like mythical [TS]

◼   ► beasts as it were that there are these [TS]

◼   ► the good part animal part robotic pieces [TS]

◼   ► i guess and the amount of tiny detail of [TS]

◼   ► movement mom I just can't believe it I [TS]

◼   ► cannot believe how this stuff exists on [TS]

◼   ► youtube it doesn't make sense in my [TS]

◼   ► brain [TS]

◼   ► who the caller is insane and that's what [TS]

◼   ► means that the differences [TS]

◼   ► there's a team who make incredibly [TS]

◼   ► complex things and initials you who's [TS]

◼   ► making things that are difficult to make [TS]

◼   ► for just one person right and that was [TS]

◼   ► my ends up taking even though they're [TS]

◼   ► very different the same amount of time [TS]

◼   ► yeah that that's exactly like that the [TS]

◼   ► the courses that path was a much [TS]

◼   ► straighter line than was the when there [TS]

◼   ► was the production of mine because as a [TS]

◼   ► slight behind-the-scenes thing it was at [TS]

◼   ► some point in very late februari i took [TS]

◼   ► the script that I had been working on [TS]

◼   ► for that whole length of time so from [TS]

◼   ► november until late februari and I was [TS]

◼   ► walking around and I was thinking about [TS]

◼   ► the video and then it crossed my mind [TS]

◼   ► about how to do the thing that I [TS]

◼   ► eventually did which was to film it from [TS]

◼   ► a first-person perspective as a way to [TS]

◼   ► try to explain some of the complicated [TS]

◼   ► things that are going on and once that [TS]

◼   ► idea came into my head I thought oh this [TS]

◼   ► is a really great way to explain this [TS]

◼   ► phenomenon that is otherwise difficult [TS]

◼   ► to explain but if i'm going to film [TS]

◼   ► myself doing these things i need to [TS]

◼   ► throw out everything that I've written [TS]

◼   ► so far this this whole script just does [TS]

◼   ► not work at all in this is the way that [TS]

◼   ► I'm going to explain this and so I [TS]

◼   ► started over right i started brand-new [TS]

◼   ► over i essentially halfway through the [TS]

◼   ► collaboration between the two of us [TS]

◼   ► because like nope this script won't work [TS]

◼   ► if i do it this way [TS]

◼   ► start again select all delete and start [TS]

◼   ► typing this is a superb Atlantic [TS]

◼   ► question but not have a good reason for [TS]

◼   ► it he didn't really saw over again [TS]

◼   ► though did you like I know what you mean [TS]

◼   ► but all of the work that you've done to [TS]

◼   ► that point was useful [TS]

◼   ► helping you create the final product [TS]

◼   ► faster yeah that is true right i mean [TS]

◼   ► like if you would have had this idea in [TS]

◼   ► November it may have still taken you [TS]

◼   ► that amount of time to make it you you [TS]

◼   ► are totally right and look for example I [TS]

◼   ► didn't have to redo the research exactly [TS]

◼   ► that doesn't that doesn't occur [TS]

◼   ► the reason I say just like I'm starting [TS]

◼   ► over is because as we have discussed [TS]

◼   ► before that my writing process is really [TS]

◼   ► very largely and editing and re-editing [TS]

◼   ► process and so that that that's the [TS]

◼   ► thing that I mean like I know that even [TS]

◼   ► if I'm thinking about doing it this way [TS]

◼   ► i have to do just a ton of drafts before [TS]

◼   ► it it becomes a thing [TS]

◼   ► yeah it is basically new text file kind [TS]

◼   ► of start over right yeah and it was [TS]

◼   ► really interesting because again in in [TS]

◼   ► working with Philip you know he saw some [TS]

◼   ► of the drafts you know we were we reach [TS]

◼   ► commenting on the other person's [TS]

◼   ► scripting try to help each other along [TS]

◼   ► but he he saw unfold the thing which i [TS]

◼   ► always feel when i'm working but I [TS]

◼   ► thought oh maybe I'm kidding myself [TS]

◼   ► about how basically like this basically [TS]

◼   ► have my script is not very good for the [TS]

◼   ► first 15 or 20 drafts and then it is the [TS]

◼   ► last one or two drafts where suddenly I [TS]

◼   ► feel like this is the thing all of a [TS]

◼   ► sudden and now what is good and it was [TS]

◼   ► interesting to kind of get that [TS]

◼   ► confirmed from somebody back of like boy [TS]

◼   ► what did you do between this draft in [TS]

◼   ► the last draft because suddenly this [TS]

◼   ► really feels like a thing and the [TS]

◼   ► previous ones all felt like they were [TS]

◼   ► kind of rough like you know you could [TS]

◼   ► film it and it would be fine but it's [TS]

◼   ► not really fantastic when do you start [TS]

◼   ► reading them aloud I start reading them [TS]

◼   ► aloud when there is something to read [TS]

◼   ► aloud so I usually end up writing [TS]

◼   ► depending on depending on the script [TS]

◼   ► something like 5,000 words of garbage [TS]

◼   ► let's say I've just like thoughts of how [TS]

◼   ► to explain stuff and that's that's just [TS]

◼   ► largely typing and i end up with that [TS]

◼   ► with that big text file and then that is [TS]

◼   ► the point where I just start reading [TS]

◼   ► those notes allowed in in my office [TS]

◼   ► I you know with my standing desk the [TS]

◼   ► Thunder and that's right and the Thunder [TS]

◼   ► I was actually you put this you put this [TS]

◼   ► idea in my mind I can't get rid of about [TS]

◼   ► being like you know in some sort of evil [TS]

◼   ► lair because the end when i was working [TS]

◼   ► on this at one point I really i saw [TS]

◼   ► myself like through your eyes as though [TS]

◼   ► you would be standing there like oh this [TS]

◼   ► is slightly uncomfortable like I'm [TS]

◼   ► standing in a room i am reading out loud [TS]

◼   ► a script that has to do with horrific [TS]

◼   ► brain surgery that's been done to people [TS]

◼   ► right I'm making gestures with my hands [TS]

◼   ► about how I think this is going to go on [TS]

◼   ► the screen as i am reading out loud as i [TS]

◼   ► am playing Thunder sounds and I was also [TS]

◼   ► playing like this [TS]

◼   ► classical violin album amok recordings [TS]

◼   ► number is like for a moment is like I [TS]

◼   ► see what I must look like to Mike and [TS]

◼   ► this it is let me talk about your braids [TS]

◼   ► that's there's someone inside you what I [TS]

◼   ► am still yeah like I'm hoping my hand [TS]

◼   ► like this is this music and the Thunder [TS]

◼   ► like maybe mike has a point anything [TS]

◼   ► like as a point about what you said you [TS]

◼   ► know I can't imagine someone wants to [TS]

◼   ► just come in to check something right [TS]

◼   ► they just opened the door just to peek [TS]

◼   ► in you know to say i don't know all this [TS]

◼   ► cake in the lobby and I just like back [TS]

◼   ► away maybe that happens if I don't know [TS]

◼   ► cuz ya i basically I wondered if like [TS]

◼   ► there is a correlation between you [TS]

◼   ► reading what you have allowed and the [TS]

◼   ► script getting good [TS]

◼   ► yeah it but I do i would say easily more [TS]

◼   ► than half of the drafts are done in this [TS]

◼   ► semi allowed stage or completely allowed [TS]

◼   ► to take much and it's but it's like I [TS]

◼   ► don't know what it is but I can just [TS]

◼   ► feel towards the end when something [TS]

◼   ► finally clicks of like this this is the [TS]

◼   ► rhythm like this is the exact way the [TS]

◼   ► surprising thing that often happens is [TS]

◼   ► like the very last draft i will [TS]

◼   ► radically move around a bunch of [TS]

◼   ► paragraphs the paragraphs might not [TS]

◼   ► change but I'll suddenly realized like [TS]

◼   ► oh these are all in the wrong order [TS]

◼   ► why on earth was i ever writing them in [TS]

◼   ► this order like I've been writing them [TS]

◼   ► in this order for months this doesn't [TS]

◼   ► make any sense [TS]

◼   ► this one has to [TS]

◼   ► with the beginning not the end these two [TS]

◼   ► have to go together this one in the [TS]

◼   ► middle i can just take this whole thing [TS]

◼   ► out and it's like boom suddenly it just [TS]

◼   ► kind of gels I understand that because [TS]

◼   ► you know every now and then I will have [TS]

◼   ► some kind of flash of an idea when [TS]

◼   ► editing show em like oh I could put the [TS]

◼   ► girl from ipanema in here [TS]

◼   ► mhm you know it's like this is a great [TS]

◼   ► like I get it it's like you just have [TS]

◼   ► these like random flashes of of ideas [TS]

◼   ► and then everything just starts to fall [TS]

◼   ► into place [TS]

◼   ► yeah it and the having someone else see [TS]

◼   ► the drafts as i was doing them it was it [TS]

◼   ► was just interesting to have it [TS]

◼   ► confirmed back to me that it's not in my [TS]

◼   ► imagination that this thing is occurring [TS]

◼   ► somebody else sees it and somebody else [TS]

◼   ► comments that suddenly it's way better [TS]

◼   ► and I don't know why it's like yes [TS]

◼   ► that's right perfect like great now it's [TS]

◼   ► ready to go [TS]

◼   ► I thought it was ready to go and you [TS]

◼   ► agree that this final thing is suddenly [TS]

◼   ► much better I am NOT I am NOT crazy like [TS]

◼   ► I'm not imagining that it takes this [TS]

◼   ► long like someone else sees that I do [TS]

◼   ► need to go through all of these [TS]

◼   ► revisions before it becomes the final [TS]

◼   ► thing that I'm ready and happy to record [TS]

◼   ► there's an interesting process [TS]

◼   ► considering the changes that you're [TS]

◼   ► currently embarking on in your [TS]

◼   ► production process [TS]

◼   ► mm what did it feel like to work so [TS]

◼   ► closely with someone [TS]

◼   ► well with it was just it was interesting [TS]

◼   ► to have the the feedback back and forth [TS]

◼   ► on on what we were doing [TS]

◼   ► yeah i would say like this this was in [TS]

◼   ► the YouTube world people talk about [TS]

◼   ► collaborations right doing collaboration [TS]

◼   ► videos all the time and I didn't use [TS]

◼   ► that word for what we were doing i kept [TS]

◼   ► using the word crossover the like what [TS]

◼   ► we're doing here is like a crossover [TS]

◼   ► video [TS]

◼   ► yes we weren't deeply collaborating and [TS]

◼   ► that's what made that word feel like the [TS]

◼   ► wrong word like I was not popping up in [TS]

◼   ► the middle of the courts because that [TS]

◼   ► video being like hey well you want [TS]

◼   ► narrating that one or something yeah [TS]

◼   ► like it we weren't doing those reverse [TS]

◼   ► kind of things personally I think those [TS]

◼   ► things are very hard to do [TS]

◼   ► I've seen a few that are absolutely [TS]

◼   ► amazing and I will always hold up the [TS]

◼   ► destined from smarter every day and [TS]

◼   ► Derek [TS]

◼   ► veritasium they did crossover video on [TS]

◼   ► the Coriolis effect that i think i will [TS]

◼   ► forever hold up as the most the most [TS]

◼   ► amazing example of collaborating with [TS]

◼   ► another person like they they did two [TS]

◼   ► videos that each really depends on the [TS]

◼   ► other one they did this fantastic thing [TS]

◼   ► with the timing of the videos it's [TS]

◼   ► really quite an achievement what they [TS]

◼   ► did like that is an amazing [TS]

◼   ► collaboration video but lots of [TS]

◼   ► collaboration videos i sometimes feel [TS]

◼   ► like people are just in somebody else's [TS]

◼   ► video just to be there and when I watch [TS]

◼   ► them feel like is this adding or is this [TS]

◼   ► like is like a little jarring moment but [TS]

◼   ► if the feeling suddenly changes and so [TS]

◼   ► we didn't think that this topic lent [TS]

◼   ► itself to true collaboration and so [TS]

◼   ► that's why I was always using the word [TS]

◼   ► crossover of at the end we are crossing [TS]

◼   ► over that each topic forms a nice little [TS]

◼   ► circle of this one leads into that one [TS]

◼   ► and that one leads into this one so it [TS]

◼   ► makes sense for each of us to point to [TS]

◼   ► the other at the end and so I think it [TS]

◼   ► it was interesting to do it's always [TS]

◼   ► stressful trying to time something with [TS]

◼   ► another person as well especially [TS]

◼   ► because we have vastly different [TS]

◼   ► production cycles and and it's like okay [TS]

◼   ► well we have to release on the same day [TS]

◼   ► but like how long is it going to take [TS]

◼   ► for all his animation to happen [TS]

◼   ► how long is it gonna take me to come to [TS]

◼   ► the end of creating the the scripts like [TS]

◼   ► who knows who knows how long it's going [TS]

◼   ► to take it when you're trying to [TS]

◼   ► coordinate with someone that stuff is [TS]

◼   ► quite stressful and then of course [TS]

◼   ► because i am the person that I am I [TS]

◼   ► start immediately worrying like somebody [TS]

◼   ► else is working on split-brain video [TS]

◼   ► right now we're going to upload the day [TS]

◼   ► before and all of that stuff is ya [TS]

◼   ► titles high-stakes but it seems to have [TS]

◼   ► paid off the videos are doing very well [TS]

◼   ► I think they're they're helping each [TS]

◼   ► other so I definitely worth it [TS]

◼   ► the main reason that people do these [TS]

◼   ► types of things is to guess point people [TS]

◼   ► to other channels right like I think [TS]

◼   ► that's why the business reason for doing [TS]

◼   ► this type of stuff [TS]

◼   ► oh yeah did you find that to be [TS]

◼   ► beneficial did the work that you did [TS]

◼   ► together that payoff business-wise this [TS]

◼   ► this kind of thing is is very good and [TS]

◼   ► it is also one of those cases where [TS]

◼   ► her as we have talked about before in [TS]

◼   ► some ways I'm i am this very like [TS]

◼   ► spreadsheet oriented return on [TS]

◼   ► investments person and I should be doing [TS]

◼   ► crossover collaboration videos all the [TS]

◼   ► time write like this the spreadsheet [TS]

◼   ► said she would say like do this every [TS]

◼   ► single time but i only want to do it [TS]

◼   ► when it feels like it's it's a good [TS]

◼   ► topic again it and it totally works to [TS]

◼   ► do but you can build a pretty successful [TS]

◼   ► YouTube career by intensely [TS]

◼   ► collaborating with literally everybody [TS]

◼   ► who will do collaborations with you and [TS]

◼   ► and you can see that as a kind of career [TS]

◼   ► paths on on youtube sometimes but I'm [TS]

◼   ► just pulling up the numbers here and so [TS]

◼   ► forth for people who want to know in [TS]

◼   ► terms of success metrics and subscriber [TS]

◼   ► numbers in the 48 hours after the video [TS]

◼   ► went up we each gained about 80,000 [TS]

◼   ► additional subscribers is no joke [TS]

◼   ► yeah it's a big number it's a big number [TS]

◼   ► of subscribers also limey that videos [TS]

◼   ► done well looking at a few numbers [TS]

◼   ► whoa holy moly yet wow that's this is a [TS]

◼   ► big success one [TS]

◼   ► yeah it's it's it's done it's done very [TS]

◼   ► well I think you'll find its holy moly [TS]

◼   ► well clearly i made that very clear I [TS]

◼   ► haven't looked at in awhile what is it [TS]

◼   ► up to them a 2.4 million pretty good [TS]

◼   ► pretty good pretty good [TS]

◼   ► yeah I was gonna say for comparison for [TS]

◼   ► the listeners so they have a sense of [TS]

◼   ► scale on a on a normal nothing happens [TS]

◼   ► cgpgrey hasn't uploaded a video in six [TS]

◼   ► months or something at six months haha [TS]

◼   ► one day will be six months yet one day [TS]

◼   ► will be six months hasn't uploaded a [TS]

◼   ► video in in six weeks kind of thing a [TS]

◼   ► normal day is like a thousand [TS]

◼   ► subscribers somewhere in that ballpark [TS]

◼   ► ok so this this puts it you know sort of [TS]

◼   ► again ballparking it's kind of an order [TS]

◼   ► of magnitude larger roughly sort of so [TS]

◼   ► it'sit's business-wise like this this [TS]

◼   ► kind of thing is very good to do I [TS]

◼   ► should in theory do it way more than I [TS]

◼   ► do [TS]

◼   ► but again just just the way my working [TS]

◼   ► cycle is and and also my my own quite [TS]

◼   ► laggy and long production cycles like it [TS]

◼   ► does make it hard for other people to [TS]

◼   ► work with me and it's one of the reasons [TS]

◼   ► why Phillip and I could collaborate [TS]

◼   ► quite easily because he also has the [TS]

◼   ► same kind of like a very long very laggy [TS]

◼   ► production cycles so we each know very [TS]

◼   ► well understand we are talking in [TS]

◼   ► November it might be almost half a year [TS]

◼   ► until this thing is actually done it up [TS]

◼   ► and that's okay [TS]

◼   ► 21 for millions of views yeah a lot of [TS]

◼   ► people watching a video with my hands [TS]

◼   ► moving stuff around while I feel later [TS]

◼   ► it's a little weird to think sometimes [TS]

◼   ► yeah it's a little weird to think like I [TS]

◼   ► went to toys r us [TS]

◼   ► yeah I ball kylo Ren mosque ya got some [TS]

◼   ► My Little Ponies got some Rubik's cubes [TS]

◼   ► and some blocks for babies and put it on [TS]

◼   ► my business card at the guy the [TS]

◼   ► toys-r-us was like these for you like [TS]

◼   ► now it's a business expense [TS]

◼   ► I don't think he believed me well [TS]

◼   ► because what business is that so [TS]

◼   ► however that I like I think this could [TS]

◼   ► see in his eyes like a little bit of [TS]

◼   ► doubt and I was like why don't you [TS]

◼   ► believe me have a walking away it's like [TS]

◼   ► of course he has no reason to believe me [TS]

◼   ► that i need some blocks for babies for [TS]

◼   ► business expense [TS]

◼   ► why would you even ask someone that [TS]

◼   ► question like you know how many people [TS]

◼   ► goes and go into toys r us and buy [TS]

◼   ► things for children like isn't that the [TS]

◼   ► whole purpose of the store [TS]

◼   ► what a strange thing to ask and I don't [TS]

◼   ► know I don't know why clerks always ask [TS]

◼   ► stuff from stores and you probably had a [TS]

◼   ► weird look on your face right thank you [TS]

◼   ► anyway you knew you shouldn't be there [TS]

◼   ► buying those things and he could tell is [TS]

◼   ► that what you think it was [TS]

◼   ► that's what I think it was that why [TS]

◼   ► clerks always talk to me everywhere I go [TS]

◼   ► because I have a weird look at my face [TS]

◼   ► is that what you're saying you know like [TS]

◼   ► the idea that magicians when they're [TS]

◼   ► pulling somebody out of the audience [TS]

◼   ► they pull the person who looks the most [TS]

◼   ► awkward right like they can just tell [TS]

◼   ► like I'm going to get this person [TS]

◼   ► because they clearly don't want to do [TS]

◼   ► this I expect that that's the kind of [TS]

◼   ► face that you have when you're [TS]

◼   ► interacting with anybody in a retail [TS]

◼   ► environment so people just instinctively [TS]

◼   ► want to ask [TS]

◼   ► questions because you look like you [TS]

◼   ► don't want to be there hmm maybe maybe [TS]

◼   ► that's why that's my experience [TS]

◼   ► everywhere I go people want to talk to [TS]

◼   ► me about things to work on that poker [TS]

◼   ► face [TS]

◼   ► yeah but if I'm ever in a magic show I [TS]

◼   ► always do my best to give the the guy on [TS]

◼   ► stage like a death stare like I will [TS]

◼   ► look right into his eyes and lingual and [TS]

◼   ► I'm thinking thoughts like you don't [TS]

◼   ► want to pick me but I don't like looking [TS]

◼   ► right at him just like blank face [TS]

◼   ► I am NOT your person i figured that's [TS]

◼   ► like the fastest way to communicate at [TS]

◼   ► every now and then you say something [TS]

◼   ► that like the phrase is funny to me and [TS]

◼   ► this time was every time i'm at a magic [TS]

◼   ► show [TS]

◼   ► haha how often how often this is what [TS]

◼   ► you're secretly in the Magic Circle [TS]

◼   ► nobody knew I don't ever just thinking [TS]

◼   ► like a soft Penn & Teller oh I've wanted [TS]

◼   ► to do that in vegas i saw them when they [TS]

◼   ► were in in London a little while ago [TS]

◼   ► that was probably the last magic show [TS]

◼   ► that i was at i would love to see [TS]

◼   ► panatela yeah but I'm also i'm also [TS]

◼   ► thinking of like circus Olay shows and [TS]

◼   ► things like that like they're all just [TS]

◼   ► the same kind of like someone is getting [TS]

◼   ► pulled on stage like it all in my brain [TS]

◼   ► it's all filed under like magic show [TS]

◼   ► right when they're pulling someone on [TS]

◼   ► the stage like this is what this is [TS]

◼   ► even if its clowns at circus Olay or [TS]

◼   ► whatever you call them clowns [TS]

◼   ► I don't think clouds that I would know [TS]

◼   ► circus Olay has the clowns they always [TS]

◼   ► have clowns did I seen these shows yet i [TS]

◼   ► don't like clowns and I've never been so [TS]

◼   ► closely [TS]

◼   ► okay well don't go that's my [TS]

◼   ► recommendation if you don't like clowns [TS]

◼   ► don't go I'm not going I don't like the [TS]

◼   ► clouds either but it's the same thing of [TS]

◼   ► like I want to make them feel like don't [TS]

◼   ► think anybody on the weirdo in the [TS]

◼   ► audience is looking right at you with [TS]

◼   ► the dead deadpan face like I'm trying to [TS]

◼   ► signal that i am not the person you're [TS]

◼   ► gonna have a fun time with you picking i [TS]

◼   ► will be the most resistant exactly swear [TS]

◼   ► to God I will that I want a signal like [TS]

◼   ► I will be lots of trouble and no fun for [TS]

◼   ► you look elsewhere look elsewhere [TS]

◼   ► I could push stuff over today's episode [TS]

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◼   ► continued support of this very program [TS]

◼   ► so your favorite ever email ab Unimogs [TS]

◼   ► has recognized the cortex love [TS]

◼   ► yes yes i saw this morning I think that [TS]

◼   ► you need box put up a very nice little [TS]

◼   ► post saying that they are [TS]

◼   ► heard us talking about the app on the [TS]

◼   ► show and I really like that they did is [TS]

◼   ► they took the time to write out a few [TS]

◼   ► things discussing some of the the points [TS]

◼   ► that we brought up and showing like a [TS]

◼   ► few extra tips and tricks for those of [TS]

◼   ► you in the audience who are joining me [TS]

◼   ► in the Uni box way for the endless wheel [TS]

◼   ► of email [TS]

◼   ► basically they did a better job of [TS]

◼   ► explaining it then we did as they should [TS]

◼   ► but yeah there's the sum of the things [TS]

◼   ► that you were trying to help me with [TS]

◼   ► they do a much better job of explaining [TS]

◼   ► them [TS]

◼   ► yeah reading reading through their [TS]

◼   ► article i was thinking oh that's why [TS]

◼   ► Mike and I had such a different [TS]

◼   ► experience when we set up our apps like [TS]

◼   ► I just happened to press a button and I [TS]

◼   ► didn't even remember didn't even think [TS]

◼   ► about it that there's one thing there's [TS]

◼   ► one thing in there that i really like [TS]

◼   ► which which I was just looking at like [TS]

◼   ► oh this this totally makes sense is I [TS]

◼   ► was talking about being able to swipe on [TS]

◼   ► just messaged subjects when we were [TS]

◼   ► having the conversation you were like [TS]

◼   ► that's really weird and confusing ahead [TS]

◼   ► and they were very nicely took the time [TS]

◼   ► to say you can sleep anywhere on the [TS]

◼   ► message right you don't have to swipe on [TS]

◼   ► this one little narrow strip and so I [TS]

◼   ► actually just installed on my phone just [TS]

◼   ► to try and like oh wow I don't use email [TS]

◼   ► on my phone but if you are an email on [TS]

◼   ► your phone person this you can swipe [TS]

◼   ► anywhere on the message anywhere on the [TS]

◼   ► screen and perform a couple of actions [TS]

◼   ► on on the message like boy that would be [TS]

◼   ► amazing if I was an email on the phone [TS]

◼   ► guy this is a fantastic feature so i [TS]

◼   ► would say thanks thanks to the team for [TS]

◼   ► writing up some additional information [TS]

◼   ► that we missed in our attempt to try and [TS]

◼   ► explain the app thankfully they were [TS]

◼   ► there to help [TS]

◼   ► yes hey great you know what time it is [TS]

◼   ► it is 118 in the afternoon as we are [TS]

◼   ► recording this [TS]

◼   ► now that's correct that's the answer I [TS]

◼   ► was looking for that what you're looking [TS]

◼   ► for [TS]

◼   ► yep moving on this great blouse cortex [TS]

◼   ► okay great [TS]

◼   ► Magnus wrote in gray and Magnus wanted [TS]

◼   ► to ask how does one handle to-do items [TS]

◼   ► that are dependent on another person in [TS]

◼   ► order to be completed so [TS]

◼   ► Magnus hit with his job a large part of [TS]

◼   ► it is gathering information from people [TS]

◼   ► that are not necessarily directly [TS]

◼   ► incentivize to get the info [TS]

◼   ► incentivize to get the info [TS]

◼   ► nation for him all Magnus Magnus I i [TS]

◼   ► love the way you describe that and boy [TS]

◼   ► have I been there was gonna say this [TS]

◼   ► sounds like you've got some some [TS]

◼   ► camaraderie here like yeah and Magnus [TS]

◼   ► goes on to say that they're not [TS]

◼   ► necessarily directly incentivized to [TS]

◼   ► give the information which means that [TS]

◼   ► deadlines don't exist of these people so [TS]

◼   ► how do we handle to-do items that are [TS]

◼   ► dependent on other people whether [TS]

◼   ► they're incentivized or not so we both [TS]

◼   ► use OmniFocus and i know that a long [TS]

◼   ► time ago great you'd mentioned using [TS]

◼   ► vandal list and I wonder how you [TS]

◼   ► continue to do this especially with the [TS]

◼   ► expanding organization that is great [TS]

◼   ► industries has that the good point [TS]

◼   ► oh how do how do I handle this [TS]

◼   ► um well first of all to Magnus you know [TS]

◼   ► my sympathies go out to you because we [TS]

◼   ► all know people are the worst [TS]

◼   ► you can't depend on people they take [TS]

◼   ► forever to get back to you and I include [TS]

◼   ► myself in this crew right i think i [TS]

◼   ► think of for Mike reaching out to me [TS]

◼   ► sometimes sending me a message [TS]

◼   ► it's like I get back to him later but [TS]

◼   ► like when does later come I don't know [TS]

◼   ► will be there it now don't say never it [TS]

◼   ► comes eventually later comes eventually [TS]

◼   ► so this is a problem that we all face [TS]

◼   ► and that if we look deep into our own [TS]

◼   ► selves we all sometimes also create I [TS]

◼   ► mean that the short answer is high try [TS]

◼   ► to eliminate dependencies and other [TS]

◼   ► people as much as possible to minimize [TS]

◼   ► this inevitable problem but when i do [TS]

◼   ► have something something that I need to [TS]

◼   ► keep track of like the other person [TS]

◼   ► needs to get back to me on this thing i [TS]

◼   ► have a context in OmniFocus that's just [TS]

◼   ► called waiting and this is this is a [TS]

◼   ► kind of hold over from the strict [TS]

◼   ► getting things done implementation days [TS]

◼   ► of yore that I used to do but i find [TS]

◼   ► this one little thing is is quite a [TS]

◼   ► handy of being able to mark in a project [TS]

◼   ► like the next step is me waiting on this [TS]

◼   ► person to get back to me about a thing [TS]

◼   ► and that like that's just my stake in [TS]

◼   ► the ground so that I don't forget [TS]

◼   ► because i know that i am very likely to [TS]

◼   ► forget that i'm waiting on another [TS]

◼   ► person for another thing and just [TS]

◼   ► totally lose track of it so that that's [TS]

◼   ► that's my general catch-all for people [TS]

◼   ► that I'm not necessarily formerly [TS]

◼   ► working with I still with my assistant [TS]

◼   ► we do you use Wunderlist as a as a [TS]

◼   ► shared list to keep a record of all of [TS]

◼   ► the various things that we are working [TS]

◼   ► on and she really likes that app I [TS]

◼   ► really like that app i have to say i [TS]

◼   ► highly recommend if you are working in [TS]

◼   ► probably a very small team i'm not sure [TS]

◼   ► Wunderlist would scale very well to a [TS]

◼   ► large team of people but maybe for you [TS]

◼   ► know five or less individuals i think [TS]

◼   ► it's a fantastic little app for keeping [TS]

◼   ► track of who is doing what and so I can [TS]

◼   ► assign to my assistance that is these [TS]

◼   ► little subtasks these are your [TS]

◼   ► responsibilities and then she can go [TS]

◼   ► through it and also assigned subtasks to [TS]

◼   ► me and it's very easy to see like who [TS]

◼   ► who is who is the block in moving this [TS]

◼   ► project forward and the answer is not [TS]

◼   ► surprisingly always i am but at least [TS]

◼   ► like it's clear like we know who is the [TS]

◼   ► person that needs to get back about a [TS]

◼   ► thing so I really recommend that i [TS]

◼   ► really recommend that a lot but to the [TS]