Cortex 31: Later Comes Eventually
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hey great where are you hi mike i am in
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north carolina now start of the summer
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of fun is no some summer fun with you
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get summer fun from this is this is not
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a thing what it is is a hashtag summer a
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vastly more travel than i would like not
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fun that's test the summer hashtag
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occurring here I don't think you
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understand our hashtags work
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what do you mean flow along slowly looks
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like I think I I think I'm fantastic and
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hashtags someone will use that hashtag
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but they will now someone's having that
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summer to use that hashtag little group
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of people who are I know also having
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summers of many travels and and not fun
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discussing the amount of hashtag that's
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I use Twitter I know how the Twitter
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works Mike sounds like it but yes for
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the moment for the moment I am visiting
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my parents in North Carolina and I'm
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talking to you from my temporary
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recording studio means cool text
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messages on the way
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oh yeah summer court xmas one of the six
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annual cortex mrs. coming up very
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shortly grow it multiplies when is that
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I don't know what I forget when is that
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what I think it's in august sometime
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okay you want the people to know that
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there's going to be a missing episode in
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August I I feel like I have to tell them
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i know you would prefer to just never
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tell them but i want to listen to know I
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think you should not tell them i think
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people should just be surprised when its
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core Texas you never know when it's
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going to be court xmas I don't think
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it's a surprise if something doesn't
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arrive I don't think like all surprised
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no episode i don't think people think
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that well I mean we know we know there's
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the regular right there's this Christmas
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court xmas of course right there's a
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summer court xmas and then and then
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there are you know maybe eight to ten
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random cortex mrs. throughout the year
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there are many attempts at multiple
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texts around the year but Mike always
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pulls me back people
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the point is trying to eke an extra
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quart xmas Adam I think innocently
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messaging him and now it's like oh no
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we're going to record a show today some
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recording show today with you and I'm
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very happy to be here Mike say something
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I was very happy about and in the rennet
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from the last episode many people who
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had applied for the animation
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illustration position in cgpgrey
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industries were posting their videos in
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the red thread which was really cool so
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there's a bunch and now I'll include a
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couple links in the show notes to some
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threads where you'll find some of the
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videos that will put in the in the red
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and it was just really interesting to
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see the different takes that people had
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and I really liked it so I'll encourage
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anybody else to post in the reddit their
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videos that they submit if they're
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interested in sharing them because it
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was really cool to see and also think
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considering how much we've spoken about
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this and you know you kind of gone
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through the process I think it adds a
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lot of context to kind of the way that
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it's going through and maybe people can
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control I insist to type of thing you're
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looking for by looking at what maybe
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didn't get through
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I think it's really interesting to see
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how its evolving I was kind of surprised
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at how much interest there was around
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this but I saw a whole bunch of people
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were seem to be having fun
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no posting those applications and and
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talking about them maybe even some
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people were like you know it was like a
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little a little group of people who were
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also each critiquing yeah the
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applications and like giving feedback
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the internet always surprises me in in
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in these ways and then this is one of
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those times in my all this there was a
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lot of a lot of interest in this and a
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lot of interesting discussion so yes if
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you are listening to cortex
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presumably this is the thing that was
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probably of interest to you since you've
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stuck with that stuck with us through
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whatever it is so far two or three
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episodes of me talking about hiring a
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person so if you were if you want to see
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a bit more of the behind-the-scenes of
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that Mike will put the appropriate links
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in the show notes whilst we're talking
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about other people promoting something
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that they're doing i would like to
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promote something that I'm doing so I
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have it I have a new project and I
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wanted to let the cortex listeners know
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about great i have a question Mike is a
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podcast it is about cars how could you
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have guessed how could you have guess i
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have to say it seems quite out of
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character for you to an enemy starting a
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new podcast it seems I am very surprised
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by this show called ingenious and
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ingenious explores weird and wonderful
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superior articles so this is me and my
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real FM co-founder Steven accurate we
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did this show together and like 2011 was
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our first ever show together and we
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decided to bring it back for a new
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season when you listen to a genius to
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you will gain some interesting knowledge
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about things you'll probably never use
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again fantastic that's what we promised
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the first episode is about action park
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which is probably the most dangerous
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water park in US history
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no but that's all I'm going to say for
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now but I want to know more
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I want to know more right now where do i
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need to go for this free later femslash
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ingenious and there will be a link in
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the show notes to all right go check out
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this news a fun show is something that
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kind of different for us
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I really I really I really enjoy making
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it and I think people will enjoy
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listening to it we've got some really
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weird stuff in the pipeline
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I do i do have to say I've seen a little
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bit of the the behind-the-scenes stuff
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and I can see that you put you put a lot
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of work into this one and it sounds
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super interesting what I want to know
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mike is how on earth do you have time in
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your schedule for another podcast how
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many how many podcasts is this now in
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total that you do eat maybe eight maybe
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why I forget the number
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that can't be right one no listen lose
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them out Mike do this right what are the
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shows what do you do
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analog ok analog ananza ananza connected
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connected cortex cortex remaster
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remaster the panicked the pan addict
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thoroughly considered thoroughly
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considered ingenious ingenious and
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upgrade and upgrade
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ok so that's nine podcasts
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yeah that's a lot a lot but it's my job
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this is what I do for a living oh is
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that believe it or not I did not I did
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not realize that that that it's amazing
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i don't know i don't know how you do it
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i am super impressed that you are able
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to do as as many as you do and enjoy
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this thing to a whole bunch of them and
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i'm glad you make them
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I just I just don't know how you do it
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I'm very impressed and there's yet
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another one level and is more on the way
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home or on the way constant what's up
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you tweeted something that piqued my
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interest immediately it was a photograph
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of to apple devices one on top of the
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other one of them is an interesting
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color it's a space gray color and it's a
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macbook when you've bought a macbook
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have bought a macbook
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ok a macbook one the macbook one the
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little tiny one with the single USB port
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i'm recording on it right now as we
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speak oh my i finished setting it up a
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mere hour ago before we started at
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position did you like forget to bring a
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mac or something on your trip here I I
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didn't bring them back on my trip I had
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this shipped to my parents house waitin
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for me because apple stuff is way
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cheaper in america i knew i wanted to
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get one of these and so that would be
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foolish to hide in the UK and I won't
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need it to live in my parents house and
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i'm recording a podcast with Mike so I
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just had it shipped in advance waiting
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for me in a little box and then finish
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setting up this morning that I could be
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recording this podcast with you right
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why did you buy this why did you want
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one when you have the macbook pro right
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okay yeah i have a macbook pro hey look
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up no judgment i have two ipads right
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like I'm just talking
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did I don't feel I don't feel judged for
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what I feel is I posted this because I
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ok so i got the this little macbook one
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and I brought with me on my travels my
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12.9 inch iPad bro and it's just funny
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when you unbox the macbook one next to
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an ipad pro because it's a tiny little
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thing it's it's a weird moment when you
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realized wait a minute i own an ipad
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that is significantly bigger then my
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laptop and my mac laptop is it so it's a
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weird little moment
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yeah and so i I just I thought like oh
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this is this is kind of interesting that
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these tooth like the size difference in
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these two things it's it feels like a
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bizarre crossover moment in technology
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like this like this should never happen
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but here we are like we're through the
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looking glass people iPads are bigger
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than max and so I just thought oh let me
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take a picture of this like I thought
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this was kind of interesting as always
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these things on Twitter you seem like a
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surprising reaction from just a bunch of
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people who are like what the hell is
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going on like what is happening what's
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this crazy is like why would anybody do
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this and so is always with the stuff I
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just find myself surprised that what
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from my perspective seem like i just
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thought about some stuff for the summer
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the decision and I got a piece of
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equipment and then there's the seems to
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feel like people freaking out and like
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riding in the streets but like why is
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this happening I don't understand
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explain it to me I feel like I don't
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know what to explain it's all it's all
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quite reasonable from my perspective I
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think part of it comes from the fact
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that this is a controversial computer
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right that you know it has the single
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USBC port which is kind of weird and not
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widely supported and adopted its super
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thin and it's has been underpowered and
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it's a little better now and it's um
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it's just a strange computer room
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anyways the keyboard is different and
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not more than a lot of people like it so
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just seeing a seeing anybody buy this
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machine over the last few months that
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has been available this is always been
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like what is your reason for this so
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that is why it's interesting to me
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especially because a lot of the stuff
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that you do on a Mac takes em probably
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more computing power than this thing
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comfortably gives em because you use a
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mac now for very specific task right
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we've outlined in the show making videos
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recording podcasts and playing games and
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I don't think that this computer will be
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really good any of those things so like
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partly what I wanted to talk to you
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about this i just wanted to check the
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even you that we added did you think me
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out like I just didn't know what I was
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even buying it as well
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shiny right you do look how small and
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I like that the first of all I was
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perfectly aware of this look let me let
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me let me let me walk you through this
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and so I've actually i was in
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preparation for the summer which I've
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been dreading for months and and
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reference many times like I have the
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summer of just a ton of flights and
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family stuff and then and just like so
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much travel occurring that I'm just
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exhausted thinking about it you know
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telling of how many how many flights
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going to do and also thinking that the
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course of this summer is essentially
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that I'm i have pretty much three months
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in a row of a very heavy constant travel
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so I'm going I'm going to be moving
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write a and I've been thinking about and
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and preparing for this in a whole bunch
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of ways of trying to think about how can
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I make this summer as tolerable as
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possible but all and and also a question
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of okay i know that i am going to in one
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way because i'm doing so much stuff I
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have to ramp down some of the work that
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i'm doing like I can't keep up my normal
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work schedule and then also add on top
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of it like all of this this travel and
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be the fastest thing it doesn't have to
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sport these things you know at at the
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drop of a hat but can i edit audio
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computers i own and realize yes but I
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tool for the task at hand because i was
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thought I will not bring you any where
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machine right especially with the
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knowledge that like what I'm doing
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tonight today that over the course of
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bulky big thing in what I'm trying to
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make like the smallest lightest possible
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suitcase that i can bring with me
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everywhere that i go like I want to
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maximize for travel pneus and this
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machine has adequate power to do the
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things that I needed to do and if it if
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export an episode of a podcast because
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it doesn't do it super fast it doesn't
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matter you know AI can just let it run
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all that matters is what i'm using it
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doesn't stutter and and it seemed to it
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complaints that people had about this
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like the the keyboard and while I don't
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love the keyboard it doesn't matter
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because you don't write on it exactly
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doing podcasting or if I'm doing a
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little bit of animating or illustrating
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i'm not using the keyboard right that's
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like I have I brought my Amex wireless
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mouse with me to use an input devices
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like I'm not gonna use the keyboard the
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keyboard for my work is just a row of
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buttons that happened to do things if
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i'm going to type something i'm going to
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going to write something on that because
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thing is absolutely fantastic
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little adorable macbook is actually a
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fantastic working pair for me if I'm
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going to be doing a lot of travel and
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little bit and so far it's like this is
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great like this this thing seems like
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it's it's it's well suited to the task
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the macbook adorables I've gotten close
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to doing this exact thing multiple times
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for the exact same reasons that i am
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about to go on a trip and I'm going to
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of podcast editing emergencies and I
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couldn't be less happy about this
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yeah because I'm taking my 9.7 inch iPad
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pro and this like huge honkin piece of
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metal with me which feels like a
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comparatively it weighs a million pounds
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it really died because i wouldn't even
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know why i pad was in my bag it really
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reason of like honestly now i only use a
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mac book when i travel for podcast
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editing so really I need a computer that
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is more suited to that exact ask so thin
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for five held off on the macbook I was
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I thought to myself when they were
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revved so the one usual
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so it'd be a bit more powerful but now
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there are like rumors on the horizon at
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the new macbook pro mhm and basically if
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that is much thinner a much lighter than
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what I've currently got it's gonna be an
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even if it's not the thinnest and
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lightest right and it will also have the
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power that I'm used to so I'm gonna wait
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to see what that looks like but I'm
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considering doing the same thing because
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I think if anybody can draw some kind of
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like overall feeling that me and you
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it's because i'm super reasonable that's
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what of course i think if we just think
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one of those things that mean you really
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right tool for the right job
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yeah and the macro that I have right now
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is not the right tool for the right job
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because it is big and heavy because it's
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powerful right it has the maximum power
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but I don't need maximum power I need
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maximum portability now right because
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i'm only using this machine when I am
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away from home so I need the best
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machine for traveling so if the new
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macbook pro too thin and light macbook
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pro isn't thin enough and light enough
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then i will go the macbook route what
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you say there it makes me think of of
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the sunk cost fallacy of where people
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overvalue investments that they have
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made in the past for thing that they are
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working on when thinking about decisions
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today and so that the like the way you
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think about it is you and I have each in
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the past bought macbook pros because i
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got mine two summers ago when i was when
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i was looking at a similar thing like i
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my work was also relatively different
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than I was planning on doing a
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significant amount of work it's like
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okay well this machine is the best
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machine at that time to to get i'm going
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to be working on a bunch of going to
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doing a bunch of animating i got was
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using it as a primary production machine
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back then it was like okay so i got that
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whatever was two years ago i think and i
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own that machine and so in some ways it
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feels foolish to just get another tiny
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laptop but it's it's a case of sunk cost
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see if I didn't own that macbook pro and
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I was standing in an apple store laptop
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'less and looking around and thinking
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what is the best computer for me to take
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with me this summer
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there's no way i would pick that macbook
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pro it wouldn't even it wouldn't even be
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in the running as a possible machine to
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take and that's an example like trying
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context of now and like whatever that
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what are the resources available now
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what are the requirements for what you
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need now what is the best solution to
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solve this problem now
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like don't get don't get distracted by
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the sunk cost fallacy like oh I used to
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do things this way right or I happen to
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have this this equipment currently as I
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know what is the solution now that is
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the optimal solution for this problem
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just occurred to me but maybe one of the
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reasons why people are no seams on
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recording this probably literally days
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before Apple might be announcing new
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macbook pros like it seems very likely
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that they're going to announce new
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macbook pros at WWDC and it vaguely
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crossed my mind but but that was also a
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case of well if they announce new
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macbooks that that still doesn't that
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doesn't help me this summer right he
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even if I could literally go to WWDC and
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Tim Cook was handing out macbook pros to
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everybody and it's like I'm gonna fly to
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WWDC like it is going to hand me a
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macbook pro right like even if i could
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get macbook pros on day one it doesn't
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change the fact that well there's some
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things that I need to do before their
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announcement right it's just like well I
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i need a computer now for things that
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happened this week and if i bring my
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macbook pro that means i'm traveling
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with this macbook pro for at least five
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weeks before i come to a break we could
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to happen it's not gonna happen so it's
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you think about what is what is the best
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tool for the job available and even
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though it's like it's a funny little
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machine and there's a bunch of
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complaints about it I'd I think it I
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future of my work you know we talked a
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transitioning to ipad pros and doing
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the one thing that I wonder you know
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even a year or two from now that I might
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not ever be able to get away from is
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doing podcasting on a mac for a variety
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of reasons like I'm very curious to see
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if that's a thing that I can ever get
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rid of and i'm not super convinced that
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that I will be able to do that and and
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so I i wonder if this is just going to
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end up being my new working solution for
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a very long time in the same way that I
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default computer setup will be the
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biggest ipad i can bring with me and the
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smallest mac that i can bring with me
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and now this is just for the next couple
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situation I wonder this whole scenario
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you end up moving with the times and as
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computers become more powerful the type
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of work that we do on them becomes more
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complex so you end up in a scenario
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where your workflows are changing and
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the tools are changing around you so you
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buy new ones and you adapt and you
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change which is why we spend so much
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money on this stuff but it's because we
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the work done in the best fastest most
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productive way the interesting and the
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it is getting good just talking about
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you know getting this machine it relates
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responsible for building the environment
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environment is his things like what are
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the email clients that you're using for
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example right or how do you arrange your
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calendar or how do you think about
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routines or what are the tools that your
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you're using because there there's
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nobody else who's saying welcome to
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giant corporate co enjoy using outlook
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express forever and that's just not a
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decision that you make
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it's like every every tiny bit about the
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working world and the environment that
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you are operating in is under your
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control which is amazing but it is also
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your responsibility and obligation to
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continually reevaluate as part of your
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there's this phenomenon I don't have a
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better way to describe it it's how i
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either the way they do stuff or objects
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in their environment it's like if you're
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for example like with this laptop of
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them of having an old macbook pro is
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like the macbook pro can in a way become
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an invisible thing that you just don't
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think about or you just don't really you
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ate and I feel that way about routines
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and about all kinds of tools that it is
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in the course of human life right it is
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it is just valuable to consciously cast
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the eye of your mind and the the focus
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of your attention on all of the aspects
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of your life because these things just
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you don't think if I was starting a new
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hey is this the way that I would set up
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things like is the way that I'm
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currently doing things now the most
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effective way to work
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it's it's just very very useful to
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what's next on your list Mike you can
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collaborations right doing collaboration
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videos all the time and I didn't use
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collaboration video but lots of
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collaboration videos i sometimes feel
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like people are just in somebody else's
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video just to be there and when I watch
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them feel like is this adding or is this
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crossover of at the end we are crossing
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another person as well especially
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for all his animation to happen
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how long is it gonna take me to come to
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the end of creating the the scripts like
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who knows who knows how long it's going
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to take it when you're trying to
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quite stressful and then of course
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because i am the person that I am I
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right now we're going to upload the day
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titles high-stakes but it seems to have
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the main reason that people do these
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spreadsheet oriented return on
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investments person and I should be doing
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single time but i only want to do it
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when it feels like it's it's a good
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topic again it and it totally works to
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do but you can build a pretty successful
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YouTube career by intensely
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collaborating with literally everybody
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who will do collaborations with you and
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numbers in the 48 hours after the video
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additional subscribers is no joke
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yeah it's a big number it's a big number
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of subscribers also limey that videos
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done well looking at a few numbers
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whoa holy moly yet wow that's this is a
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well I think you'll find its holy moly
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scale on a on a normal nothing happens
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it'sit's business-wise like this this
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laggy and long production cycles like it
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does make it hard for other people to
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production cycles so we each know very
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November it might be almost half a year
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people watching a video with my hands
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moving stuff around while I feel later
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it's a little weird to think sometimes
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yeah it's a little weird to think like I
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and some blocks for babies and put it on
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my business card at the guy the
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toys-r-us was like these for you like
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now it's a business expense
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doubt and I was like why don't you
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believe me have a walking away it's like
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that i need some blocks for babies for
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business expense
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why would you even ask someone that
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question like you know how many people
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things for children like isn't that the
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whole purpose of the store
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what a strange thing to ask and I don't
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know I don't know why clerks always ask
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stuff from stores and you probably had a
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weird look on your face right thank you
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anyway you knew you shouldn't be there
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buying those things and he could tell is
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that what you think it was
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that's what I think it was that why
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clerks always talk to me everywhere I go
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is that what you're saying you know like
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they pull the person who looks the most
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environment so people just instinctively
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that's why that's my experience
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everywhere I go people want to talk to
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me about things to work on that poker
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always do my best to give the the guy on
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stage like a death stare like I will
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every now and then you say something
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this time was every time i'm at a magic
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haha how often how often this is what
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you're secretly in the Magic Circle
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nobody knew I don't ever just thinking
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panatela yeah but I'm also i'm also
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thinking of like circus Olay shows and
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things like that like they're all just
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it's all filed under like magic show
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the stage like this is what this is
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even if its clowns at circus Olay or
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whatever you call them clowns
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circus Olay has the clowns they always
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have clowns did I seen these shows yet i
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okay well don't go that's my
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clouds either but it's the same thing of
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think anybody on the weirdo in the
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gonna have a fun time with you picking i
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to God I will that I want a signal like
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I will be lots of trouble and no fun for
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but yeah there's the sum of the things
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that you were trying to help me with
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they do a much better job of explaining
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yeah reading reading through their
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experience when we set up our apps like
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about it that there's one thing there's
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which which I was just looking at like
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was talking about being able to swipe on
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just messaged subjects when we were
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having the conversation you were like
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that's really weird and confusing ahead
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and they were very nicely took the time
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to say you can sleep anywhere on the
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message right you don't have to swipe on
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this one little narrow strip and so I
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actually just installed on my phone just
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to try and like oh wow I don't use email
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on my phone but if you are an email on
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your phone person this you can swipe
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anywhere on the message anywhere on the
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on on the message like boy that would be
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amazing if I was an email on the phone
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guy this is a fantastic feature so i
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would say thanks thanks to the team for
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writing up some additional information
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that we missed in our attempt to try and
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explain the app thankfully they were
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yes hey great you know what time it is
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it is 118 in the afternoon as we are
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now that's correct that's the answer I
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was looking for that what you're looking
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yep moving on this great blouse cortex
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to ask how does one handle to-do items
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that are dependent on another person in
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order to be completed so
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Magnus hit with his job a large part of
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it is gathering information from people
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that are not necessarily directly
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incentivize to get the info
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incentivize to get the info
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nation for him all Magnus Magnus I i
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love the way you describe that and boy
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have I been there was gonna say this
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sounds like you've got some some
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camaraderie here like yeah and Magnus
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goes on to say that they're not
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necessarily directly incentivized to
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give the information which means that
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deadlines don't exist of these people so
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how do we handle to-do items that are
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dependent on other people whether
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they're incentivized or not so we both
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use OmniFocus and i know that a long
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time ago great you'd mentioned using
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vandal list and I wonder how you
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continue to do this especially with the
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expanding organization that is great
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industries has that the good point
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oh how do how do I handle this
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um well first of all to Magnus you know
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my sympathies go out to you because we
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all know people are the worst
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you can't depend on people they take
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forever to get back to you and I include
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myself in this crew right i think i
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think of for Mike reaching out to me
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sometimes sending me a message
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it's like I get back to him later but
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like when does later come I don't know
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will be there it now don't say never it
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comes eventually later comes eventually
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so this is a problem that we all face
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and that if we look deep into our own
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selves we all sometimes also create I
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mean that the short answer is high try
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to eliminate dependencies and other
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people as much as possible to minimize
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this inevitable problem but when i do
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have something something that I need to
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keep track of like the other person
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needs to get back to me on this thing i
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have a context in OmniFocus that's just
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called waiting and this is this is a
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kind of hold over from the strict
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getting things done implementation days
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of yore that I used to do but i find
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this one little thing is is quite a
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handy of being able to mark in a project
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like the next step is me waiting on this
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person to get back to me about a thing
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and that like that's just my stake in
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the ground so that I don't forget
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because i know that i am very likely to
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forget that i'm waiting on another
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person for another thing and just
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totally lose track of it so that that's
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that's my general catch-all for people
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that I'm not necessarily formerly
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working with I still with my assistant
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we do you use Wunderlist as a as a
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shared list to keep a record of all of
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the various things that we are working
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on and she really likes that app I
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really like that app i have to say i
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highly recommend if you are working in
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probably a very small team i'm not sure
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Wunderlist would scale very well to a
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large team of people but maybe for you
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know five or less individuals i think
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it's a fantastic little app for keeping
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track of who is doing what and so I can
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assign to my assistance that is these
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little subtasks these are your
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responsibilities and then she can go
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through it and also assigned subtasks to
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me and it's very easy to see like who
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who is who is the block in moving this
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project forward and the answer is not
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surprisingly always i am but at least
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like it's clear like we know who is the
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person that needs to get back about a
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thing so I really recommend that i
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really recommend that a lot but to the
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the later part of his question I'm much
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more interested in what mike tells about
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this because in terms of incentivizing
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people I would just have to go right
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like struck my shoulders like I have I
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have no idea how to get people to do
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what you want if they are not
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incentivized to do that and so I am
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hoping to learn something from Mike in
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the very next moment about how to make
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the incentivization portion of this is
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very difficult if you're working within
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uh-huh this is like office politics
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yeah that's the only way you can do it
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so in my experience there are two ways
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you can sensitize people you can even be
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or you can loosely threaten them or is
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this is this actually your advice
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the threat usually comes in the form of
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whomever has direct line management
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oh god is this like the stuff I used to
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see it schools like let's see somebody's
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boss on this like yeah that would you
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mean the only thing to do and i found
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and i would very rarely use this but
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sometimes you just gotta throw that CC
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and man if that person is refusing to
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help you and you've been as nice as you
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can be sometimes the only thing you can
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do is get the person who has the ability
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to directly incentivize good or bad get
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look this not the way around it there's
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no way around it so i will tell you now
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though i am not in a position to really
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do that with the people that I need
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things from so I go the nice route which
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is tends to be my default route anyway
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nice guy Mike good cop Mike we're gonna
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cut a good cup i'll bug people where i
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need to you know extended mouth but you
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know eventually is only so far you can
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go but i don't i don't use the CC
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anymore because it doesn't really work
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for the type of stuff that I'm doing
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Lydia I'm sorry Magnus I will say though
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just from the idea from our handling
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tasks respective i have tried one
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duelist and I agree that it is actually
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quite wonderful but so good but he stop
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that man it's awful but know that i will
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never stop my problem with it is i don't
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like having multiple to-do apps to check
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from a dependency perspective and now
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many people will point out the amount of
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to-do apps i have on my screen but
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they're different things for me they're
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like reminders and to do like my to do
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is all-in-one task management system to
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ask management system and that is only
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focused like that is where my stuff
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needs to be done goes in there things
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like take out the trash things like
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remember that TV shows on that sort of
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stuff lives in do right like I see those
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different types of things completely but
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the things that would go in an
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application like Wunderlist are like
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tasks they are things that for me
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mentally living only focus so when I am
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waiting on somebody to do something for
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me I put that in OmniFocus mmm
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it's like discussion has had and then
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task of check with X about why goes in
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my personal only focus yet tool tool
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wise I i agree with you there that that
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is the one thing that I don't like about
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using Wunderlist it is that feeling of I
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can't in OmniFocus always have an
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overview of everything that's occurring
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because they're there's this subset of
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tasks that have to live somewhere else
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because they are being worked on by
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another person and I i don't i don't
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like that split very much i would prefer
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I if an OmniFocus there was a way to say
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share a list with somebody else and I
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understand this that's not a thing is
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probably going to happen but so that so
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that is a little bit of a that is a
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little bit of a downside but yeah I find
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like it's the it's the only way to to
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keep track of that stuff but yeah in
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theory i would want absolutely
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everything to be in in one spot and I
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actually also recommend doing the thing
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that you're talking about here of
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separating out a lot of those smaller
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tasks and like those reminder tasks in
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something else and I have it's actually
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over the past few weeks i used to use do
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for that but but I've actually been
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migrating a bunch of my little reminders
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and tasks like take out the trash do
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some laundry you know that that kind of
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stuff I've been migrating them over to
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my old friend to do and and having
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taking advantage of some of its little
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reminder and nagging features to bug me
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about things at certain levels one
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interesting overpowered application for
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the classics like that
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yeah it's it is comically overpowered
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for that particular purpose and in
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theory i should be all of these names
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in theory i should be using do instead
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of to do is to solve this problem but
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because it's considered 325 now I'm
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gonna make an app called you do who do
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you do we do the Hoodoo
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right because all of the do apps but I i
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ran into some problems with do correctly
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sinking across my various devices and so
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I was going slowly insane with do trying
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to remind me on a whole bunch of
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different things about like to do
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laundry I guess I've ticked off on the
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laundry fun for different iPads I've
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done it like I've done the laundry you
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know just you don't have to tell me on
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every single it was kind of driving me
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crazy i can never quite get to work but
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then but then i remembered like my old
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friend to do how ridiculously
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overpowered but has rock-solid sinking
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and has better flexible reminders about
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nagging me about this thing every minute
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or every 15 minutes or every hour and so
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a lot of those kind of things like you
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know take vitamins
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I'm moving those little things out of
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OmniFocus and into to do and I quite
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liked having that division and and that
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feels quite natural in my head like oh
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these aren't projects these are just
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little reminders throughout the day it
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makes sense to handle them someplace
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else and to leave the the heavy lifting
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of project management to OmniFocus you
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know 44 wear it for where it shines
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somebody did actually asked us an
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overall scores question like if we used
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you on different devices
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I don't do that for me like I just don't
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want those things popping up everywhere
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like for me to you is a phone and watch
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app that's all it is
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yeah and sometimes I'm like I wish I
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could put this task in on my iPad but I
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know that if I put it there is that the
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notifications turned off and that's kind
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of going crazy in the background but I
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don't ya any of that so I just I've
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restrict it to phone and watch and most
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of the time I can you get the watch to
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enter the task right right way more the
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time so like I'm i'm good with that
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there i think that's a totally sensible
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solution the reason that I don't do that
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is because i am using the timer's of the
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do app that is its primary feature to me
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and I i want to on any device that
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anybody anytime be able to start like I
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am beginning a work unit
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now click 40-minute time ago and i love
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the way that reminds me that i can set
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it was just a banner across the top of
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the screen to poke me like the timer's
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up the time is up but it doesn't
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interrupt me so that's why I want that
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immediately available on every device at
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any time but then it like the the
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sinking of reminders and things can be
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crazy making so that's why it's like out
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here i am i've got to separate out how
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can like three apps with check marks on
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my on my system here you know for for
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managing different kinds of things but
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that that's that's why I went with that
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solution and then ago you mentioned
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shared tasks and only focus who if
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anything from history has shown us know
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by what did begin people the good people
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at OmniFocus they have been so
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accommodating I will not let you do what
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you're about to do I didn't say anything
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ok alright we're not saying you didn't
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see anything moving right along
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Sam asked what RSS readers you use i
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will ask do you even use one anymore
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RSS is dead and oh ok here's the
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technically my answer is no I don't use
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however I sort of have an RSS reader in
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in that there are a very few websites
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that i do follow and read but what i
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have setup is in if this then that a
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trigger that follows those RSS feeds and
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automatically dumps the articles and
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instapaper so ice sort of don't have an
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RSS reader but I sort of do because i
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have a small number of hand-picked
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websites that i want to read what they
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have and so like I guess
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instapaper is kind of my RSS reader but
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the difference is when I had a proper
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RSS reader and speaking of fantastic
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names i used reader are eedris my RSS
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reader along with my do a poor timers
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we're headed to the guys come on like
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let's have names
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wunderlist like it's a name its thing
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people can use it as a work often you
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have 200 it's not butter last night the
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my RSS reader at that stage I had just
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tons and tons of RSS items for all kinds
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lists and and I like to be able to blast
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through a bunch of stuff that I follow
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that way it's like I don't use
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instapaper like that at all i think i
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have maybe five websites that are
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automatically dumping articles instance
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the paper and all of those websites like
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if they post one thing a week it's a lot
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so it's it's ridiculously low volume but
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so you don't have anything
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RSS serves one purpose in my life now
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and podcasts that's the ultimate RSS use
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it's not costing so overcast is your RSS
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reader that selectively yes it's the
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only application i use i believe that
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has any kind of RSS and I you know I
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still subscribe to a feed wrangler like
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it's still there right like i have an
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RSS thing in the background i used to
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use probably reader and unread as well
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I've used those applications in the past
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of their finance I just don't read news
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in this way anymore so what I found out
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was I would find every article i needed
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because i've read twitter who everything
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I need to see comes through there most
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of the time it's for RSS feeds that I
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was never subscribed to anyway right
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like it would be something that came
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from Bloomberg that I would need to read
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by don't subscribe to Bloomberg's RSS
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feed because it's too much or you know
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the verge I would want to know their
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stuff but in an RSS reader is like all
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he's like 50 things that I don't care
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about for the one thing that I do so I
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follow a bunch of Twitter accounts for
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you know sports I like to read including
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the blog's my friends and stuff and then
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you know like I'll subscribe to kc
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Lissa's twitter account i will follow
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marcos twitter account student org a
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like and I get everything I need to get
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that way because to officials what i
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read this where I get that stuff the and
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the idea of opening up an RSS
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application and looking at all of the
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things inside it just doesn't serve a
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purpose of me anymore
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yeah I remember when I for
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are signed up for Twitter a while ago I
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remember having the spin like I don't
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really get twitter like I was having a
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hard time figuring like what what
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purpose does this serve in my life like
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what it wouldn't exactly use for but i
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do remember at some point it dawned on
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me that oh this this is RSS for non
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nerds like that this is in some ways a
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much easier RSS like system it's not as
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complete as RSS but it's way easier for
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a normal person to sign up to a twitter
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account and follow a bunch of sites that
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are interesting to them and then be able
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to log on and see stuff and I remember
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that was the first time the Twitter
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started to gel for me of work how do
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people use this why do people use this
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and and so yeah I I used to think over
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twitter is nothing like RSS when people
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say that one has replaced the other that
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doesn't make any sense because our says
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all these features but as I know how the
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the 2i think it we really had like I
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think what really has supplanted the
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need for RSS in you know 99 percent of
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the population that would be using an
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RSS reader Joel ask what fonts do you
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using your spreadsheets or any document
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that requires formatting what's funny
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have how fantastically specific i really
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what fun to use in your spreadsheet i
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like the evo spreadsheets first
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yeah I develop that that's what's making
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me laugh is i don't i don't know it's
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bought font i use in my spreadsheet it's
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whatever the default one in numbers is i
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think i had no idea if i if I'm using
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something like it's like a numbers
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spreadsheet or a google doc spreadsheet
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I'll tend to just go with whatever the
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standard formatting is in stuff like
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Google Docs and quit like they have a
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bunch of options I just choose you know
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a space sans-serif font that I like the
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look of but for me like if I'm
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formatting a document for somebody so
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say like advertising proposal or
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something i'm partial to feature a venir
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and proximate over response that I like
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to use I think that they're nice
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I'm a couple of the couple of them
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actually fit in with the kind of the
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funds that we use on our website and
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stuff like that and I just like those
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fonts a lot so I would form at those
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like for external documents and stuff
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from outside of that I tend to just
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cover the defaults i'm not i appreciate
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a good-looking font but i'm not a font
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nerd in such a way that i will go out of
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my way to put a nice fun on my like
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Google sheet that tracks some rubbish
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that nobody else needs to see who this
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like that i like the way you phrase that
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like I appreciate a good-looking font
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was walking down the street you know but
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i won't go chase after that I'll turn my
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head of black you know i'm happy with
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the fonts that I've got doesn't mean I
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have to go after you that that's like
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that's what we're hearing you know I'm
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another after all with four lots of
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internal stuff I usually find that the
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default is fine you know like I I don't
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I'm but I'm trying to run through
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mentally think but there are places
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where i am picky about fonts realize I
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have three things which is to reading
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things and writing and so in my mind
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when i'm reading articles and instapaper
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well that just has to be a sans-serif
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because articles are less serious than a
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book and a book requires serif fonts
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it's like just this makes sense now it
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doesn't make any sense at all but it's
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totally a thing in my mind like I cannot
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read this book in sans-serif this book
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is not being serious enough and then if
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instapaper when i install it on
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something like if it for some reason has
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the the serif fonts installed by default
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I feel like oh come on who are you
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kidding article urs serif font right
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you're not putting on all of these
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errors with these serif now i will only
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read an article in serif fonts not serif
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font right so that so that's two places
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where I do have a preference for books
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seraphs articles sans serifs and then
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for for writing it is the one place
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where i am a little bit picky about the
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fonts that i use and i like to write
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with a good programmer font so if i say
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font is fixed with
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you know what that means yeah kind of I
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her people of explaining soon before I
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can't really see the difference in a lot
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of stuff but I understand what people
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are saying yeah that all the characters
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are fixed width apart right right
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this goes back to the olden days of
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computing and when you could fit
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characters only in certain places on the
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screens like because of the way the
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programs were written or actually what I
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thought but I think of is is like the
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old style notice boards in train
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stations where they're rolling over a
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bunch of letters and and to spell out
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the name of a town that is a place where
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you would write a4a use a fixed width
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font because you want all of the letters
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to be approximately the same with
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otherwise it will read strange if on a
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board that's flipping over letters you
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have a thin I that's just floating in
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the middle of its little box and on one
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side of it is is like a big fat 0 taking
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up all the space it just it looks weird
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if if they're not all the same size and
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for some reason when i am writing I i
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really want a nice fixed width font and
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so there are a whole family of fonts
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that are designed to to do this for
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programmers because if you are a
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computer programmer there are many
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advantages to doing to being able to
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look at the length of the line that
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something of something that you have
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written and knowing approximately how
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many characters it is knowing that you
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can compare the line above the line
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below about how many characters are in
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it and so I for a long time i have been
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using inconsolata and is the name of a
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font that I quite like four as a writing
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font there's if there's a few others out
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there but if you just if you're the kind
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of person who cares about this stuff if
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you just Google programmer fonts you
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will find there are a bunch of options
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of different fonts that you can try out
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that RR nyce for this sort of thing and
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so on the ipad for anybody who was
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wondering I because the ipad has a
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limited number of fonts there is an app
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called any font that will allow you to
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install a custom font that you can then
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use in other applications and so that's
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how I'm able to get a font like
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inconsolata onto my ipad 2 then use in
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the writing environment even if it's not
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built into the ipad by default
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Sammy lost what kind of headphones do
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you guys use which made me think you
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back to using headphones because
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remember when you you took your time
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away from the internet you also kind of
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stopped listening to stuff right so you
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weren't using headphones or maybe we're
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mean you made up that day and you didn't
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have headphones on and i was very
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au back to using headphones again when
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you're kind of walking around town when
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I walking around the town like looking
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at fonts that i have three headphones
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that i can recommend for very specific
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purposes are you ready I'm so ready
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ok big heavy-duty headphones which I've
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mentioned before on the show are the
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bose noise cancelling headphones which
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are worth their weight in gold
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when you are on an airplane and there
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was a crying baby because their noise
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cancelling can mute the sound of that
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baby and and make it like he's sitting
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way further behind than he actually is
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and those are the headphones I'm also
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wearing right now as I record because
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they're nice and big
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over-ear headphones so I think of these
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like the heavy-duty headphones i'm
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recording a podcast or i am on an
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airplane trying to artificially create
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more space between myself and the people
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around me they are fantastic but because
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the noise cancelling they are i think a
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legitimate hazard to ever wear outside
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because if you have them on you will not
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hear cars approaching you will not hear
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any kind of warning sounds it is very
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easy to be oblivious with these outside
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so I cannot recommend them under those
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circumstances i strongly believe if you
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were nice counseling headphones outside
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it is just a matter of time until you
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get hit by a vehicle
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yeah it really is i'm like that i have
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done it on occasion if I'm like I don't
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have anything else available to me
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but the first couple of times I did it
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and I had them on my head all the way I
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was like whoa you cannot do this you
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have to have one year open to the world
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otherwise it is like you're just asking
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to die that's the thrill it's all your
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but even with one head with only the
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only one here covered i still don't
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recommend it if you just don't realize
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how effective they are at making things
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sound way further away than they are not
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even noticing stuff now the question
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that you're wanting to know is like my
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walking around headphones and for those
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i recommend the jaybird x2 bluetooth
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headphones they are fantastic
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they're super small in ear bluetooth
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headphones and what i want to recommend
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to people who get them is you'll see the
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picture is where people are kind of
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wearing them dangled around in front of
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them but if you open the instruction
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book that you get these headphones
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people don't notice this but they have
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this fancy way to fold them up so that
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the headphone wire goes behind your head
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so you just you just stick the two
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headphones in your years and you can run
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the wire over the top of your ear and
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around the back of your head and those
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headphones are fantastic like i'm not a
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huge audio file so i don't care a lot
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about these like super high sound
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quality like I can't speak to that they
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seem fine from my perspective by the
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thing that I love about them is they are
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ridiculously small the battery genuinely
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last for a full workday out in the world
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and they're really light and they're
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really comfortable they take a little
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while to get used to like I push these
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on people like no you gotta stick with
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it like you gotta try it out you gotta
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just go with it is going to be weird at
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first but you can like it and and i have
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yet to fail with convincing someone that
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if you give these a shot they are great
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they're especially great for something
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like the gym I cannot imagine going into
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the gym with wired headphones at this
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point and to have like a little tiny
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pair of headphones you can just put over
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years totally out of the way totally
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hands-free it is fantastic
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although i am absolutely convinced that
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the bluetooth headphones make a
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significant dent
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in how long the battery lasts on your
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phone and her i really wish Apple would
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show like Bluetooth usage in their
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little battery drain thing because it's
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like like this i can tell this makes a
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big difference but i would love to know
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how much of a difference like how much
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of the battery is the bluetooth
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headphone using from the phone I don't
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know so that is the one downside but
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otherwise I quite like them but I have
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one more wild card recommendation like
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oh god my wildcard recommendation is a
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headphone called the tracks titanium
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have you heard of this but why are you
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laughing already
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the name sounds weird so I expect it's
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gonna be really weird
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these are bluetooth headphones what on
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uh they are not over ear headphones like
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the bose noise cancelling they are not
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in ear headphones like the jaybird
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headphones they are outside of your ear
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through the bone on the side of your
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head phone vibration type things right
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right yeah so this comes from that
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there's a demonstration that I used to
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do is a physics teacher with kids which
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met you may or may not have ever done
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this listener this may or may not have
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ever done this in school but with tuning
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forks that was fantastic to really freak
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out kid sometimes some kids reacted like
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really poorly to this which is great you
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take a tuning fork right and you strike
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it so it makes a little noise and then
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you pull up like it's a magic class of
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volunteer from the audience right like
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come up and you take the tuning fork and
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you put it against the side of the kid's
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head sort of by the ear just in front of
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its and what happens is the subjective
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experience goes from i am hearing a
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sound that is coming out from the
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outside of my head too i am hearing
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something that is originating from
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inside of my head right suddenly your
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brain has a hard time placing where the
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sound is coming from and for some people
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it places the source of the sound as in
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the center of your skull which freaks
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some people really out badly would like
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the tuning forks in my head like what
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you know is right now it's just on the
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my problem is I'm yeah but if you think
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about the way your brain works right you
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are able to place where sounds are in
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the world and the end this effect of
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vibrating the bone that's in your head
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your brain can interpret it as the
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source of the sound is located in the
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center of your skull which is not
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normally a place that you hear sounds
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emanating from so some people react
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really really to it but the tracks
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titanium headphones reproduce that
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affect a little bit of creating a source
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of sound that feels to some extent like
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it is coming from inside your head
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it is not coming from outside of your
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head now the interesting thing about
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these headphones is that they leave your
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ears free there's nothing blocking your
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ears even when you're just wearing it
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over your head and so the reason that i
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have these headphones is because when my
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work office starts filling up with a
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bunch of people I don't want to be
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playing loud thunder sound storms and
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music in this environment so I do want
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to put on headphones but i also want to
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hear myself speak so I got these
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headphones because they don't block the
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years and so I can still hear music or
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hear thunder sounds and also very
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clearly hear myself talking while I'm
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working on a script and writing a script
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so these headphones are are very very
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strange i'm sure look at these
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headphones definitely don't add to the
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whole weirdness of the scenario that
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yeah he's also wearing his crazy future
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advisor to that's good to know it
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doesn't feel these things don't really
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occur to me until you say the mic like
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nothing I can see this this is why you
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need me in your office
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no I do not need you in my office but so
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anyway these headphones are there
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they're very interesting
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they're very different but but this is
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going to be one of those things where I
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mentioned as the wild-card of your
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either going to love it or you're not
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going to like it at all but but like you
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maybe a person for which this sounds
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like exactly the thing you want i really
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want to try these I I do really want to
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this is because I've never experienced
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that before but I don't know if I really
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I really want to 110 pounds try them
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right next time next time we meet up
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i'll remind me to bring them along and
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I'll bring along the headphones will try
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the headphones will do the spreadsheet
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thing just like I promised I haven't
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forgotten like will do that and and so
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you can you can try out these various
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things the the apple one of the
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applications that they mentioned on
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their website which i think is really
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interesting is for blind people that
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this allows if you are applying for you
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to be able to listen to a source of
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audio while not blocking the primary way
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that you know where you are in the world
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right of hearing what's going on around
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you basically so you can listen to music
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about sensory deprivation exactly right
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it's like it's one of those things like
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it would never have occurred to me but
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like yes this is this is this is a
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fantastic feature if you are blind like
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the these are the headphones you never
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knew that you wanted and must be amazing
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to use it's like I happen to have a
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particularly narrow use case for how I
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want to use these things but I can see
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where they're useful to other people as
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well as anybody uses these I be quite
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curious like why would you want to use
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them or or like what do you see cuz I I
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just kinda wonder like how many people
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buy them or how big is the market who
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who else has a need for these but i but
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i really like them and I found myself
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using them much more than i anticipated
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that I that I would so I quite like them
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some people might really hate them and
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and deeply just like the the sound is
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coming from the inside of my head effect
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so my have fun pics are nowhere near as
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interesting you should have gone first
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my know the gun first tell me about your
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boring had fun i use their pods the
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Apple earpods quite a lot because I
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always had them in my pocket so like I
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all my god could it be more boring
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Minimum Viable had fun for all times i
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have sent as Paris sennheiser MM 400ex
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stereo bluetooth on ear headphones they
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have physical controls on the side that
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I really liked so I can play and pull
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stuff they do not sound good at all
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that's the Marco recommendation isn't
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yes there is a theme for my have fun
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things here look at the theme is Michael
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the theme is somebody else told you to
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literally he did was I was in his house
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seems like he get put them in my hands
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like they're the ones you need to buy
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and he's right because they're good for
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podcasting the terrible for music but
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they have the physical buttons on the
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side which which are really good
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I really don't like two things about
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headphones i don't like in here and I
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don't like noise cancelling for some
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reason in-ear headphones never stay in
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my left ear doesn't matter what type
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they will never stay in my left ear and
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noise cancelling makes me feel nauseous
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yeah the other noise cancelling does
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have that effect on some people of not
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feeling great and I think it might be an
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offshoot of motion sickness
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now I wouldn't i wouldn't be surprised
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if it's something like that although I I
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am increasingly susceptible to motion
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sickness but the the noise cancelling
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doesn't bother me but have some people
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just react very poorly to it they don't
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the headphones i am wearing right now my
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recording headphones are the bear
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dynamic dt 770 dt sep DET seven haha
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c'mon man you can do it
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tell her killer I think I can I think I
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can i buy the baby a dynamic dt 770 pro
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headphones 32 arm
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wow sounds pretty serious they will put
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on my head and marcos house right here
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going and continuing the theme i listen
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to some music and I heard things in the
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music had never heard before my only use
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these to record they are incredibly good
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letting me hear things in the audio that
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that I want to hear and they are very
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comfortable for me to wear for multiple
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hour stretches a day which is so the day
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on my recording headphones right that
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that's a requirement for you
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the one thing i don't like about these
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is the cable i really like it when the
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cable is coiled because it stays out of
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the way more this isn't I don't like the
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cable on these but everything else is
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fantastic i have some pair of bose
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headphones that i bought in an airport a
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long time ago that i use for airport
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travel just because they cover my ears
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so it's the closest I can get they're
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I don't necessarily recommend them but
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they do that job I've had my eye on the
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Bang & Olufsen h6 second-generation
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another Marco pick and a few of my
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friends of all of them and I've tried
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them and they're amazing but i only use
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headphones like this when I
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travel and I just haven't I haven't felt
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the desire to spend a few hundred pounds
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on these yet whenever my current
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traveling headphones like but the dust
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this is probably why what I will go
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ahead and buy that this is something I
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have my own but I just haven't I haven't
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pulled the trigger on it just because
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the use cases so is so slim and the ones
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that i have really do the job that I
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need them to do to be honest we have my
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headphones nowhere near as exciting
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right like I he did interrupt you there
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but we have to go and we have to go
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right now gotta go guy who
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goodbye goodbye thank you adorable
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