Cortex 35: An Episode Out of Time 2: Out of Timer


00:00:00   so listen ian has found the perfect new [TS]

00:00:02   game for you [TS]

00:00:03   oh yes what is it so you know in the [TS]

00:00:05   past you spoken about the fact that you [TS]

00:00:07   like games that feel like work you know [TS]

00:00:09   like you like truck simulator 2 [TS]

00:00:11   factorial like work games [TS]

00:00:13   yeah their work simulator games in my [TS]

00:00:15   mind what we found the ultimate cgpgrey [TS]

00:00:17   work simulator is called youtubers life [TS]

00:00:20   you to his life is the ultimate life [TS]

00:00:23   simulation tycoon via game in which you [TS]

00:00:25   become the world's greatest video [TS]

00:00:26   blogger in history edit videos [TS]

00:00:28   expand the amount of fans and turn [TS]

00:00:30   yourself into a wealthy fellow that [TS]

00:00:34   sounds horrible [TS]

00:00:34   super day at work imitates life imitates [TS]

00:00:37   work imitates life that little little [TS]

00:00:40   too close to home [TS]

00:00:41   the screenshots are amazing because they [TS]

00:00:43   show a bedroom with an unmade bed and [TS]

00:00:46   somebody working on a computer [TS]

00:00:48   remarkably by total coincidence i [TS]

00:00:51   watched PewDiePie do a playthrough of [TS]

00:00:54   YouTube simulator just yesterday [TS]

00:00:58   oh really it showed up in that here's [TS]

00:01:00   what YouTube thinks you should watch [TS]

00:01:02   section they were really write the right [TS]

00:01:05   like that sometimes that YouTube thing [TS]

00:01:06   freaks me out because they're like oh [TS]

00:01:08   yeah i know i would like to see that [TS]

00:01:10   video thank you so much YouTube right [TS]

00:01:12   well this this one strike me as [TS]

00:01:14   particularly funny because it's it's i [TS]

00:01:16   am not subscribed to PewDiePie i have [TS]

00:01:19   probably watched fewer than five maybe [TS]

00:01:22   ten of his videos ever and but youtube [TS]

00:01:26   just knows right there little algorithms [TS]

00:01:28   their data algorithms simply know hey [TS]

00:01:30   we're going to suggest you a peopie [TS]

00:01:33   video that you cannot possibly resist on [TS]

00:01:35   clicking and they were correct and i [TS]

00:01:36   clicked it and i watched it and they [TS]

00:01:38   were right it was very entertaining [TS]

00:01:39   video but what do you think of youtubers [TS]

00:01:43   life I will never play a game like that [TS]

00:01:46   it looks it looks terrible it looks like [TS]

00:01:49   the kind of work simulator that I hate [TS]

00:01:51   which is not really work simulator it's [TS]

00:01:53   just the game randomly rewarding you at [TS]

00:01:56   times with stuff i don't know I I have [TS]

00:02:00   no interest in ever playing that game [TS]

00:02:01   but i can recommend PewDiePie's video [TS]

00:02:03   where he plays that game like he's very [TS]

00:02:06   good [TS]

00:02:06   he's very funny and he turns it into a [TS]

00:02:09   bizarre meta commentary on his own life [TS]

00:02:13   as a youtuber so of course he ends up [TS]

00:02:15   making a little character that looks [TS]

00:02:17   just like him and just makes all of [TS]

00:02:20   these comments about feeding the Machine [TS]

00:02:22   and gotta keep going there's a reason [TS]

00:02:24   that guys number one youtuber I wouldn't [TS]

00:02:26   watch all these videos they're not all [TS]

00:02:27   for me but anybody who thinks he's just [TS]

00:02:30   an idiot playing video games in his room [TS]

00:02:32   like you don't understand what this man [TS]

00:02:33   is doing [TS]

00:02:34   you don't understand what he's doing [TS]

00:02:35   when we talk about that talent thing and [TS]

00:02:38   when we were talking about a long time [TS]

00:02:39   ago about having that spark and we use [TS]

00:02:42   them k PhD is a an example of that from [TS]

00:02:44   his first video right right little [TS]

00:02:46   little tiny twelve-year-old mkbhd yeah [TS]

00:02:49   PewDiePie doesn't really have a sparky [TS]

00:02:51   has a fire [TS]

00:02:52   yeah like that man there's there is no [TS]

00:02:54   doubt absolutely no doubt whether you [TS]

00:02:56   don't like these videos are not you [TS]

00:02:58   cannot deny that they are well made [TS]

00:02:59   their well made and that he is just [TS]

00:03:03   engaging I'm engaging in this way that [TS]

00:03:06   is difficult to describe [TS]

00:03:07   yep yes really youtube algorithms you [TS]

00:03:11   know you know what I wanted even and I [TS]

00:03:13   didn't know what I wanted and what I [TS]

00:03:15   wanted was watching the number one [TS]

00:03:16   youtuber play youtube simulation game [TS]

00:03:19   this is an episode out of time [TS]

00:03:22   indeed it is Mike because from my [TS]

00:03:25   perspective this is insanity because i [TS]

00:03:29   just spoke to you yesterday we did we [TS]

00:03:32   just did an episode yesterday we did our [TS]

00:03:34   cortex versuri episode yesterday for [TS]

00:03:38   people who are interested in the cortex [TS]

00:03:44   annuity of the show [TS]

00:03:45   I'm so proud of you right now but then [TS]

00:03:48   again in service and this episode you [TS]

00:03:54   are probably listening to sometime in [TS]

00:03:56   july maybe august i don't even know [TS]

00:03:59   where this is going to happen so people [TS]

00:04:01   will be listening to this at some point [TS]

00:04:03   in the late summer [TS]

00:04:05   mhm months after we are recording it yep [TS]

00:04:09   so this is what will be passed me [TS]

00:04:14   talking to you after what is intended to [TS]

00:04:17   be a very long very busy very unusual [TS]

00:04:22   summer for me which is part of the [TS]

00:04:23   reason why [TS]

00:04:24   you're recording this well ahead of time [TS]

00:04:26   but it makes the verb usage here seem [TS]

00:04:30   very strange like in the future i will [TS]

00:04:33   have had done things that we will [TS]

00:04:37   certainly have had already talked about [TS]

00:04:40   Anya shows we will record but from the [TS]

00:04:44   perspective of people listening we've [TS]

00:04:46   already recorded and they have already [TS]

00:04:47   listened to because it's very confusing [TS]

00:04:49   because in theory now looking to the [TS]

00:04:54   future so that people can judge our [TS]

00:04:56   predictions we have participated in real [TS]

00:05:00   icon to gether right we will have been [TS]

00:05:02   to relay con you have been to VidCon i [TS]

00:05:06   will have been to VidCon we will is [TS]

00:05:08   recorded off first in-person episode of [TS]

00:05:11   cortex [TS]

00:05:11   that's right as well and now we are [TS]

00:05:15   approaching the second annual court xmas [TS]

00:05:18   very confusing it is all very confusing [TS]

00:05:22   and the very fact that i'm going to [TS]

00:05:25   relay khan and the very fact that i'm [TS]

00:05:27   going to VidCon are things that i have [TS]

00:05:29   stated publicly nowhere at this stage [TS]

00:05:32   which is what makes it all the more [TS]

00:05:33   exciting dimension [TS]

00:05:35   it's like a fun little secret at this [TS]

00:05:38   moment I i may not even mention anything [TS]

00:05:41   about being at VidCon until after I have [TS]

00:05:44   left I don't know we'll have to see him [TS]

00:05:46   listener will already know if I did or [TS]

00:05:47   didn't yep haha but that might be a [TS]

00:05:50   surprise so yeah it's it's just it's a [TS]

00:05:54   strange thing but we are trying to plan [TS]

00:05:57   in advance for what is going to be a a [TS]

00:06:00   busy summer so the reason we are [TS]

00:06:02   recording this is because there's going [TS]

00:06:04   to be just a ton of stuff going on and I [TS]

00:06:08   know that later in the summer in [TS]

00:06:10   addition to all of this crazy business [TS]

00:06:11   stuff i also have a ton of family stuff [TS]

00:06:14   that I'm doing later in the summer so [TS]

00:06:16   this very morning for this episode I was [TS]

00:06:19   actually telling up [TS]

00:06:20   what is the theoretical number of [TS]

00:06:22   flights that I am taking this summer and [TS]

00:06:24   I haven't bought them that there's a [TS]

00:06:26   there's a few events in a few things [TS]

00:06:27   that are still a bit uncertain but i [TS]

00:06:29   will be taking no fewer than eight and [TS]

00:06:32   no more than 14 flights this summer [TS]

00:06:34   why [TS]

00:06:34   my blood yeah I know it's it is quite a [TS]

00:06:38   lot but that is high a little while ago [TS]

00:06:42   I said Mike we need it we need to talk [TS]

00:06:44   about the summer cortex schedule and [TS]

00:06:47   that is why this episode is happening [TS]

00:06:49   right now also because mean you have [TS]

00:06:53   been for something like this already so [TS]

00:06:56   last year you were away for a lot of the [TS]

00:06:58   summer and we didn't prepare for it and [TS]

00:07:02   it was a nightmare yet last summer last [TS]

00:07:06   summer was a bit of a disaster and very [TS]

00:07:08   many ways for me probably one of the [TS]

00:07:10   biggest ways was that somehow i don't [TS]

00:07:13   really know how but you convinced me not [TS]

00:07:16   only where we going to launch cortex [TS]

00:07:19   last summer but we're also going to be [TS]

00:07:21   doing weekly episodes which was insanity [TS]

00:07:24   I don't know how you convinced me of [TS]

00:07:25   this i don't know why past me would have [TS]

00:07:28   agreed to such a thing but how was way [TS]

00:07:31   way too many episodes to be doing at [TS]

00:07:35   once but we tried and then we had to try [TS]

00:07:38   and squeeze it into a schedule and you [TS]

00:07:41   are on standby flights arriving at we're [TS]

00:07:43   days it was it was a nightmare so we [TS]

00:07:47   also we have learned together and are [TS]

00:07:49   working together over the last year or [TS]

00:07:51   so and we are now recording an episode [TS]

00:07:54   about time [TS]

00:07:56   yes that is what this episode is but [TS]

00:07:57   there is an interesting lesson in there [TS]

00:07:59   i think about the whole idea of this [TS]

00:08:02   thing existing is that we are [TS]

00:08:04   collaborating better now than we have [TS]

00:08:08   before because we now understand the [TS]

00:08:11   habits and patterns of each other and we [TS]

00:08:14   are working to respect those so I know [TS]

00:08:19   that you'll be traveling and you know [TS]

00:08:22   that I want an episode right with with [TS]

00:08:24   what Mike is trying to say here [TS]

00:08:26   listeners is a respected Mike knows that [TS]

00:08:29   i want a bunch of time off this summer [TS]

00:08:31   not the michael has a bunch of episodes [TS]

00:08:33   that summer we have these mutually [TS]

00:08:36   incompatible desires and so we have [TS]

00:08:38   compromised on one court xmas there was [TS]

00:08:42   going to be one fewer episode of cortex [TS]

00:08:44   the summer and also doing this episode [TS]

00:08:48   code in advance so this is the thing [TS]

00:08:50   this is the compromise that we have come [TS]

00:08:52   to this is another one of those CEO to [TS]

00:08:55   CEO discussions that we had that we've [TS]

00:08:57   mentioned in the past which again I will [TS]

00:08:59   underscore the importance of anybody who [TS]

00:09:02   is self-employed working with [TS]

00:09:03   self-employed people that it is very [TS]

00:09:05   very useful to be able to have these [TS]

00:09:07   conversations so useful so useful and we [TS]

00:09:10   were able to come to an agreement [TS]

00:09:12   because I wanted more episodes then [TS]

00:09:15   we're doing and you wanted more time [TS]

00:09:16   often you have so we can take me to a [TS]

00:09:20   compromise [TS]

00:09:21   uh-huh yes we did come to a compromise [TS]

00:09:23   because as we may discuss later in the [TS]

00:09:26   episode in theory i would just like the [TS]

00:09:28   whole summer off i would like the whole [TS]

00:09:29   summer off to LA and I can't eat right [TS]

00:09:34   that's not how it looks right but that's [TS]

00:09:36   what I mean right here and that is there [TS]

00:09:38   are all of these various constraints and [TS]

00:09:40   things in life i do also just want to [TS]

00:09:42   again reiterate your point to anybody [TS]

00:09:44   listening who is self-employed works [TS]

00:09:46   with the people I i really think if you [TS]

00:09:50   can try to introduce the the explicit [TS]

00:09:54   language like that can we will say like [TS]

00:09:57   we are talking CEO to co now like do [TS]

00:10:01   that as a mode shift when you're having [TS]

00:10:04   a business conversation with someone it [TS]

00:10:06   is hard to express how much easier and [TS]

00:10:09   clearer that makes things it really [TS]

00:10:12   really does [TS]

00:10:13   I i highly highly recommend anybody [TS]

00:10:16   working with other people like trying to [TS]

00:10:18   do that try to institute that as a [TS]

00:10:20   company culture in both of your [TS]

00:10:22   company's it's extraordinarily [TS]

00:10:23   beneficial and just makes things much [TS]

00:10:25   easier but yeah so in addition to this [TS]

00:10:27   being a bit of a negotiation between the [TS]

00:10:29   two of us [TS]

00:10:30   this is also one of these cases for me [TS]

00:10:34   where it's important to know yourself [TS]

00:10:38   and i found myself as this summer was [TS]

00:10:43   approaching really constantly thinking [TS]

00:10:47   back towards last summer and just [TS]

00:10:50   realizing how last summer was a bit of a [TS]

00:10:52   disaster across all fronts like this [TS]

00:10:56   summer I had a bunch of family [TS]

00:10:57   responsibilities and also about [TS]

00:10:59   of work responsibilities so there was [TS]

00:11:00   cortex is also the Helena podcast is [TS]

00:11:03   also the youtube videos that I did [TS]

00:11:04   there's some other business stuff and [TS]

00:11:07   also a bunch of family things and last [TS]

00:11:11   summer i just did a frankly terrible job [TS]

00:11:14   of trying to manage all of those things [TS]

00:11:16   and as a result i had a kind of grumpy [TS]

00:11:19   summer I felt that I was not doing [TS]

00:11:21   necessarily really great with a lot of [TS]

00:11:24   the business side of things and then I [TS]

00:11:26   also felt that I wasn't doing really [TS]

00:11:28   great with a lot of the family [TS]

00:11:29   responsibilities like it was just torn [TS]

00:11:31   between these two different worlds and [TS]

00:11:35   not being able to give either that the [TS]

00:11:38   time and the mental energy that they [TS]

00:11:41   required and so I think this is this is [TS]

00:11:45   such an important skill in life is to be [TS]

00:11:48   able to look on a thing objectively [TS]

00:11:51   evaluate yourself on it to recognize oh [TS]

00:11:54   I didn't do very well last summer with [TS]

00:11:56   these kinds of things and then think [TS]

00:11:58   forward to the Future about what are the [TS]

00:12:00   structural changes that can be done to [TS]

00:12:03   improve the situation and so reducing [TS]

00:12:07   the number of cortex episodes by one and [TS]

00:12:10   also doing one in advance like we're [TS]

00:12:11   doing now like that is one thing that is [TS]

00:12:13   definitely happening and i'm doing a [TS]

00:12:15   similar thing with hello internet i [TS]

00:12:18   think one maybe two i still have to [TS]

00:12:21   finalize it but there's going to be a [TS]

00:12:22   few fewer episodes than would otherwise [TS]

00:12:25   be normal [TS]

00:12:26   over the course of the year during the [TS]

00:12:27   summer and i'm also making a conscious [TS]

00:12:29   decision like I do most summers to [TS]

00:12:31   intentionally do one fewer video then in [TS]

00:12:35   theory would come out over the same [TS]

00:12:38   three-month span if i was working [TS]

00:12:40   another point in the year and I feel [TS]

00:12:44   like this is one of those times where [TS]

00:12:45   well i have a bunch of things to do this [TS]

00:12:48   summer in particular is going to be [TS]

00:12:50   filled with a huge amount of social time [TS]

00:12:54   and family time like I always find that [TS]

00:12:56   very energy-intensive and so i am not [TS]

00:13:01   like last year going to think i can just [TS]

00:13:03   truck through this like normal i'm just [TS]

00:13:06   i'm just going to keep doing all the [TS]

00:13:07   amount of work that I normally do and [TS]

00:13:08   i'm also going to have all of these [TS]

00:13:10   other responsibilities [TS]

00:13:11   and everything is going to be fine so no [TS]

00:13:13   I'm going to learn from last year's [TS]

00:13:15   experience and intentionally turn down [TS]

00:13:17   the work dial so that hopefully the [TS]

00:13:21   whole of the summer goes more smoothly [TS]

00:13:24   than it did last time this episode of [TS]

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00:15:11   show in the balance of all of that is [TS]

00:15:14   time off right now understanding that [TS]

00:15:18   you should be putting your efforts into [TS]

00:15:20   the right places one of those places [TS]

00:15:21   should be time off because if you work [TS]

00:15:24   in [TS]

00:15:25   Anthony you get time off and you get [TS]

00:15:28   time off because there's a very good [TS]

00:15:30   reason because everybody needs brakes [TS]

00:15:31   right and in more traditional companies [TS]

00:15:35   everybody takes it and it's all done and [TS]

00:15:37   like when the company that I worked at [TS]

00:15:39   you had to write it wasn't even a joke [TS]

00:15:42   like this was just the thing you had to [TS]

00:15:44   do and one of those brakes had to be two [TS]

00:15:46   weeks right later like all things that [TS]

00:15:48   like you had to do them and I know a lot [TS]

00:15:50   more kind of new companies these days [TS]

00:15:53   there are like these trends which on the [TS]

00:15:56   face of it seemed quite good but [TS]

00:15:57   actually work out to not be too great [TS]

00:15:59   like unlimited vacation time you [TS]

00:16:01   familiar with this [TS]

00:16:02   oh man I i love i love unlimited [TS]

00:16:06   vacation time I companies because this [TS]

00:16:08   to me is is the embodiment of corporate [TS]

00:16:12   evil [TS]

00:16:12   yep but so for listeners who may be [TS]

00:16:16   unaware this is a trend I feel like over [TS]

00:16:19   the past few years of companies saying [TS]

00:16:22   there is an unlimited amount of vacation [TS]

00:16:24   time for you to take you take as much as [TS]

00:16:27   you feel that you need because we the [TS]

00:16:30   company we love you and we want you to [TS]

00:16:32   be happy and it sounds great and I think [TS]

00:16:36   especially for people walking out of [TS]

00:16:40   university and into their first job like [TS]

00:16:42   oh this sounds like an amazing bonus but [TS]

00:16:44   the end result is that without knowing [TS]

00:16:47   how much vacation time is ok to take [TS]

00:16:50   that people who work at companies that [TS]

00:16:52   give unlimited vacation time essentially [TS]

00:16:54   take no vacation time that they can [TS]

00:16:56   never take time off because everybody [TS]

00:16:59   has this paranoid feeling about how much [TS]

00:17:01   time is appropriate to take off when is [TS]

00:17:03   it okay i don't understand what the [TS]

00:17:05   boundaries are and so yeah it's just is [TS]

00:17:07   total total corporate evil to do that [TS]

00:17:11   kind of thing but it is very important [TS]

00:17:13   to make sure that you do it and that [TS]

00:17:15   like unlimited vacation time in a [TS]

00:17:17   strange way is exactly the way that mean [TS]

00:17:20   you live our lives in and with so many [TS]

00:17:23   self-employed people right it's like I [TS]

00:17:25   can take as much time off as I want [TS]

00:17:27   because I make I call the shots but what [TS]

00:17:29   happens is i think man right here so I [TS]

00:17:33   am I have become better and better maybe [TS]

00:17:35   in the last year [TS]

00:17:37   about taking some breaks but one of the [TS]

00:17:40   things that I do which is good and bad [TS]

00:17:42   as a lot of those brakes have some kind [TS]

00:17:44   of what component in them one that helps [TS]

00:17:47   me justify a lot of it to myself and you [TS]

00:17:50   know i'm definitely not working as much [TS]

00:17:51   as usual in those scenarios but there is [TS]

00:17:55   more relaxation time occurring than [TS]

00:17:57   usual as I laughing before because the [TS]

00:18:03   comparison between unlimited vacation [TS]

00:18:04   time companies and self-employment is [TS]

00:18:06   just is perfectly spot-on and again in [TS]

00:18:11   the into thinking about my upcoming [TS]

00:18:13   summer which will have passed by the [TS]

00:18:15   time people are listening to this and [TS]

00:18:17   thinking about my last summer that's [TS]

00:18:21   going on and thinking about just how I [TS]

00:18:22   spend my working time I am so very much [TS]

00:18:26   aware that in the past two years [TS]

00:18:29   this is also an area that i have been [TS]

00:18:31   just very bad at is taking time off and [TS]

00:18:36   I recognize that as one of these things [TS]

00:18:38   that I want to try to improve and I want [TS]

00:18:40   to try to get better at but it is in no [TS]

00:18:43   small part because there is a bit of a [TS]

00:18:45   lull this feeling of like Oh in theory i [TS]

00:18:47   could take any day off but you never [TS]

00:18:49   want to take any particular day off [TS]

00:18:51   because there's always stuff to do when [TS]

00:18:52   you're self-employed this is this is the [TS]

00:18:54   downside that we talked about it being [TS]

00:18:56   self-employed that is very hard for the [TS]

00:18:58   job to leave your mind or for you to [TS]

00:19:00   leave the job it's always it's always [TS]

00:19:02   there there's always stuff that you can [TS]

00:19:04   do and you know I'll i look and look [TS]

00:19:08   back quite fondly on my time as a [TS]

00:19:10   teacher when you had those brakes and [TS]

00:19:14   there is stuff to do during the breaks [TS]

00:19:16   like I was always working on side [TS]

00:19:17   projects or whatever but there was a way [TS]

00:19:21   that you could genuinely completely [TS]

00:19:23   leave the job behind for regular [TS]

00:19:26   stretches of time and that was without [TS]

00:19:28   doubt hugely mentally beneficial to do [TS]

00:19:31   such a thing and i particularly love the [TS]

00:19:34   UK schedule for teachers which is very [TS]

00:19:36   different from in america in america you [TS]

00:19:38   usually have a one really big long [TS]

00:19:40   summer and a few short breaks throughout [TS]

00:19:41   the year but in the UK it's like six [TS]

00:19:45   weeks of teaching and then one week off [TS]

00:19:47   six weeks of teaching two weeks off six [TS]

00:19:50   weeks of [TS]

00:19:50   g one week off it's an amazing amazing [TS]

00:19:52   schedule that I think I need to move [TS]

00:19:54   closer to that in the future because my [TS]

00:19:59   current schedule of iwork almost every [TS]

00:20:03   day some amount after probably pretty [TS]

00:20:07   close to two years of doing that is like [TS]

00:20:08   now this needs this needs to change this [TS]

00:20:11   is a thing that I need to improve upon [TS]

00:20:13   and it is one of the areas in which i [TS]

00:20:14   have not been so great time office [TS]

00:20:17   interest vacations though no it's not [TS]

00:20:20   just vacations i'm thinking of vacations [TS]

00:20:22   because that is the area in which i have [TS]

00:20:24   been the worst at you and I'm also [TS]

00:20:25   thinking about that because I am I keep [TS]

00:20:28   comparing that oh this summer would be a [TS]

00:20:30   lot easier if I could just have it be [TS]

00:20:33   like my summers were when I was a [TS]

00:20:35   teacher that's why I'm thinking about [TS]

00:20:37   vacations but i have been much better [TS]

00:20:40   this past year in particular of making a [TS]

00:20:42   really conscious effort that no work [TS]

00:20:46   happens on Saturdays so I have [TS]

00:20:49   Saturday's blocked off in my calendar as [TS]

00:20:51   just no workdays think nothing's going [TS]

00:20:54   to happen here [TS]

00:20:55   you know i'm spending time on my own i'm [TS]

00:20:56   spending time with my wife but i'm going [TS]

00:20:58   to have one really dedicated day out of [TS]

00:21:01   the week that i know i'm not going to [TS]

00:21:03   work on that day and simply doing that [TS]

00:21:07   has been much more helpful like to to [TS]

00:21:11   really treat that day [TS]

00:21:12   respectfully like to not just blow it [TS]

00:21:14   off and it's very easy to do some [TS]

00:21:16   low-level work but like no no I'm very [TS]

00:21:18   serious about this [TS]

00:21:19   it's again it's very funny in this way [TS]

00:21:21   like when you are something you have to [TS]

00:21:22   be quite disciplined with this kind of [TS]

00:21:24   stuff that you have to take time off [TS]

00:21:26   really seriously [TS]

00:21:27   otherwise you won't do it and that is a [TS]

00:21:31   thing that has has worked for me but [TS]

00:21:33   like what is it that you do in in your [TS]

00:21:38   schedule with regards to time off [TS]

00:21:39   because you have all these shows that [TS]

00:21:42   you record and it seems like you record [TS]

00:21:45   shows constantly from my perspective I [TS]

00:21:48   mean do you have a day in your schedule [TS]

00:21:52   that is perfectly clear do you do [TS]

00:21:54   something similar or how does it work [TS]

00:21:56   for you know haha like well yes and no [TS]

00:22:01   okay i have no [TS]

00:22:03   today that is like absolutely no work [TS]

00:22:06   like categorically none [TS]

00:22:10   weekends are low to none mm and and that [TS]

00:22:14   is a regular thing for me there might be [TS]

00:22:17   some low-level work that I do on a [TS]

00:22:20   Sunday there might be something like [TS]

00:22:21   just bits and bobs that pop up that I [TS]

00:22:23   take care of but it's not one or the [TS]

00:22:27   other for me on weekends but it tends to [TS]

00:22:29   be that they are like significantly [TS]

00:22:31   lower work at a point where it feels [TS]

00:22:33   like I'm not working [TS]

00:22:35   who's right but I know there's always [TS]

00:22:36   stuff going on because our companies are [TS]

00:22:38   very different from mine runs with [TS]

00:22:40   people right and some and I like to be [TS]

00:22:43   available for people if they need me [TS]

00:22:45   so it is a different scenarios set up [TS]

00:22:48   slightly differently but I'm totally [TS]

00:22:50   happy with that I wouldn't want to work [TS]

00:22:52   any other way and that doesn't have to [TS]

00:22:54   be any people involved but you know but [TS]

00:22:57   I wanted there to be that there would [TS]

00:23:00   have been a way to to run real and very [TS]

00:23:02   differently than the way that we run it [TS]

00:23:05   we didn't have to create a slight group [TS]

00:23:07   that had every hosting for dinner [TS]

00:23:10   we just didn't have to do any of that [TS]

00:23:11   you know because that makes everybody [TS]

00:23:13   much more available to each other so it [TS]

00:23:15   has 11 requirements to that but that's [TS]

00:23:16   the way that I like to run my business [TS]

00:23:18   but what I do is in my theme at the year [TS]

00:23:22   of less i have two days every two weeks [TS]

00:23:27   i mentioned this many times where there [TS]

00:23:29   is way less work and also one week where [TS]

00:23:32   there is just less work anyway yeah like [TS]

00:23:34   less shows recording I is specifically [TS]

00:23:37   stack one week heavier than the other [TS]

00:23:39   blue and i'm running some side projects [TS]

00:23:42   through some of that stuff too but it [TS]

00:23:45   doesn't feel so much like work and like [TS]

00:23:47   you know the way that you do that and [TS]

00:23:49   one thing that I'm very mindful of is [TS]

00:23:51   taking many breaks throughout the day [TS]

00:23:53   that is something that I put a lot of [TS]

00:23:55   focus on making sure that I do and [TS]

00:23:58   working with a predominantly us audience [TS]

00:24:01   means that's very possible because there [TS]

00:24:04   are a lot of people that are asleep for [TS]

00:24:06   the majority of my morning and afternoon [TS]

00:24:09   so I'm able to do work that is isolated [TS]

00:24:13   during that time where I'm able to take [TS]

00:24:15   care of things that people want a hug me [TS]

00:24:17   for I'm able to take care of things [TS]

00:24:19   where i can send stuff to people and [TS]

00:24:22   they won't get back to me immediately [TS]

00:24:23   and then I'm also able to relax a little [TS]

00:24:26   bit before working in the evening [TS]

00:24:29   yeah I think that's I think that's good [TS]

00:24:31   and it's sort of along this the same [TS]

00:24:35   lines we are talking about many breaks [TS]

00:24:37   one of the behaviors i have been trying [TS]

00:24:41   to be much more conscious about is [TS]

00:24:45   deciding when work isn't happening at [TS]

00:24:49   particular times and as I mentioned [TS]

00:24:52   before [TS]

00:24:52   for me the afternoons are always my [TS]

00:24:54   least productive time and while i have [TS]

00:24:57   been bad about taking a dedicated time [TS]

00:25:00   off like a vacation [TS]

00:25:01   one other thing that I have gotten much [TS]

00:25:03   much better at is is really accepting [TS]

00:25:07   the afternoons as my unproductive time [TS]

00:25:09   and deciding to not feel the guilt of [TS]

00:25:12   there are things that you could be [TS]

00:25:14   working on right now and to say instead [TS]

00:25:18   know i'm i am accepting that this is low [TS]

00:25:20   productivity time for me and if in the [TS]

00:25:24   afternoon i want to sit down and I want [TS]

00:25:27   to watch a couple episodes of TV or I [TS]

00:25:30   just want to read a book or something [TS]

00:25:31   that is fine because this is the time of [TS]

00:25:35   day when it makes most sense to do that [TS]

00:25:37   when you'd be the least effective [TS]

00:25:38   working on something else anyway and you [TS]

00:25:42   might as well take this as your down [TS]

00:25:45   time I try and do this and I do this I [TS]

00:25:49   still struggle with it the M and funnily [TS]

00:25:51   enough time so I struggle with it the [TS]

00:25:53   most also times when i need it the most [TS]

00:25:56   what do you mean you needed the most [TS]

00:25:59   so when when I have a lot on my mind so [TS]

00:26:02   when I have a lot going on when I'm very [TS]

00:26:05   busy [TS]

00:26:06   it makes me feel overwhelmed and when I [TS]

00:26:09   feel overwhelmed I usually need to take [TS]

00:26:11   more breaks because typically when I [TS]

00:26:14   have that overwhelmed feeling it's not [TS]

00:26:16   as bad as I think it is and what will [TS]

00:26:19   usually happen in [TS]

00:26:20   is adina will come home and I will be in [TS]

00:26:24   a bad mood like usually not angry but [TS]

00:26:27   upset like I feel upset won't be Mike [TS]

00:26:29   grant peace might even the right word [TS]

00:26:32   for liking it so it's a weird feeling of [TS]

00:26:35   like maybe more vulnerable it's straight [TS]

00:26:40   something is very difficult for me to [TS]

00:26:42   explain but the only way that I [TS]

00:26:43   described it is also the high feel [TS]

00:26:45   overwhelmed and then she'll say to me [TS]

00:26:47   tell me all the things that you have [TS]

00:26:49   going on and then I'll list them and [TS]

00:26:52   realize it's not as many as I think it [TS]

00:26:53   is this is a very common thing maybe [TS]

00:26:56   happens every few months or so but it's [TS]

00:26:59   not something that I can really see [TS]

00:27:01   until I'm able to express it but it's [TS]

00:27:04   funny that like the more and more it [TS]

00:27:06   happens the more that I'm realizing that [TS]

00:27:09   it's in those times is typically where [TS]

00:27:12   I'm not taking breaks [TS]

00:27:14   mm and it's when i'm not taking breaks [TS]

00:27:16   I'm working maybe a little bit more than [TS]

00:27:19   I should and then I feel like there's [TS]

00:27:20   always more happening there is yeah that [TS]

00:27:24   it's funny you mention that because at [TS]

00:27:30   just this thing that I do fairly fairly [TS]

00:27:34   regularly maybe like you maybe every [TS]

00:27:36   couple of months I don't know exactly [TS]

00:27:38   but i am also aware that feeling of [TS]

00:27:40   overwhelm Ennis and a as much before [TS]

00:27:44   sometimes like just this feeling like [TS]

00:27:47   there is so much to do and so little [TS]

00:27:52   time to do it [TS]

00:27:54   I almost like that feeling is auntie [TS]

00:27:57   correlated with actually how many things [TS]

00:28:00   there are to do and so just the other [TS]

00:28:05   day again this is now months ago from [TS]

00:28:07   whatever people on this may have [TS]

00:28:09   happened three times to be known [TS]

00:28:11   yeah I may have done it several times [TS]

00:28:12   now but I just the other day I posted on [TS]

00:28:15   Twitter about how I always know like all [TS]

00:28:18   things are serious when I feel the need [TS]

00:28:19   to break out a second to do app and so I [TS]

00:28:23   I more like if I have this feeling of [TS]

00:28:25   overwhelming asst i do the same thing [TS]

00:28:29   that Athena is walking you through [TS]

00:28:31   of let me let me not look at my normal [TS]

00:28:36   system let me not look at all of my [TS]

00:28:38   normal things [TS]

00:28:39   let me just list what are all of the [TS]

00:28:42   things that are on my mind right now [TS]

00:28:44   what are all of the things that are top [TS]

00:28:46   of my mind that's taking up all of this [TS]

00:28:48   mental attention and what am I feeling [TS]

00:28:50   overwhelmed about and it's always the [TS]

00:28:53   same experience of ok once i write this [TS]

00:28:55   down in a list there maybe nine things [TS]

00:28:58   on that list but i often find is I'm [TS]

00:29:03   feeling overwhelmed or or busy because a [TS]

00:29:05   bunch of these things are new or unusual [TS]

00:29:09   things [TS]

00:29:11   it's not that they're actually i may not [TS]

00:29:14   actually be tremendously more busy than [TS]

00:29:16   I currently am but it's just there's [TS]

00:29:18   uncertainty here and writing it down on [TS]

00:29:22   a list like clarifies and refined that [TS]

00:29:24   uncertainty and helps get rid of that [TS]

00:29:26   feeling of being too busy and too [TS]

00:29:30   overwhelmed [TS]

00:29:31   yeah they're there is something quite [TS]

00:29:32   funny and that you talk to it to do app [TS]

00:29:34   and I talked to my girlfriend and I used [TS]

00:29:38   to write it down on a piece of paper but [TS]

00:29:39   now I know now I i use do out for a [TS]

00:29:41   little bit in the future come on we're [TS]

00:29:43   living in the future but yes it's like [TS]

00:29:46   having just gone through this like this [TS]

00:29:49   week i had been feeling very overwhelmed [TS]

00:29:50   when I wrote it all down what i realize [TS]

00:29:52   is ok i am actually quite busy because [TS]

00:29:55   this week i am working on a video we're [TS]

00:29:59   doing these two podcast one which is the [TS]

00:30:01   bank episode in the future so that is a [TS]

00:30:03   thing that counts for me as a bit of oh [TS]

00:30:05   this is unusual [TS]

00:30:06   this is different the video that i am [TS]

00:30:10   working on again I can't talk about this [TS]

00:30:11   now even though it hasn't yet happened [TS]

00:30:13   is a collaboration video with somebody [TS]

00:30:17   else and so that also adds to the [TS]

00:30:20   different pneus of the project i like [TS]

00:30:22   that you said somebody else you still [TS]

00:30:24   trying to god don't know why I did that [TS]

00:30:26   from the people that know right yeah [TS]

00:30:30   it's a it's a it's a crossover video [TS]

00:30:33   with Curtis that I don't know why on [TS]

00:30:34   earth I said somebody else very proud of [TS]

00:30:36   you right now that was part of my brain [TS]

00:30:38   really not sure if we're supposed to [TS]

00:30:40   reveal this yet but no no one will hear [TS]

00:30:41   this but so that's the thing it's it's [TS]

00:30:43   different [TS]

00:30:44   and then the other thing is i have a [TS]

00:30:47   bunch of stuff that's just related to [TS]

00:30:48   finalizing and preparing for all of the [TS]

00:30:51   summer travels [TS]

00:30:52   now that is a busier week than normal [TS]

00:30:55   but overwhelmingly the feeling of [TS]

00:30:59   busyness or the feeling of overwhelming [TS]

00:31:01   this is was just coming from a bunch of [TS]

00:31:03   these things are different than they [TS]

00:31:04   normally are [TS]

00:31:05   and so when you write them all down on a [TS]

00:31:07   list you can see okay this is clearer [TS]

00:31:10   than I thought it was before [TS]

00:31:12   yeah and this helps focus the mind on [TS]

00:31:17   what you're going to do and what I also [TS]

00:31:19   really like about this this process of [TS]

00:31:21   writing things down in these moments is [TS]

00:31:23   forcing the list to be in what order are [TS]

00:31:28   you going to work on it like this [TS]

00:31:30   here's the thing at the top this is the [TS]

00:31:32   thing that you're doing right now the [TS]

00:31:33   next most important thing is below it [TS]

00:31:35   and then just so on [TS]

00:31:36   I i find that is extremely helpful and I [TS]

00:31:40   know I always want to use a hippie word [TS]

00:31:42   like centering I don't know I i get it's [TS]

00:31:45   a similar thing i have a hard time [TS]

00:31:47   verbalizing the mental feeling it's like [TS]

00:31:50   decluttering yeah yeah that'sthat's [TS]

00:31:53   actually that's pretty good that that's [TS]

00:31:55   a very similar feeling of like a [TS]

00:31:59   decluttering is how much stuff is here [TS]

00:32:01   maybe not necessarily a lot but what you [TS]

00:32:03   really need to do is get rid of a few [TS]

00:32:04   items and better arrange the items that [TS]

00:32:07   you have and then you realize how it [TS]

00:32:08   wasn't actually that cluttered but I [TS]

00:32:10   didn't need to do a bit of decluttering [TS]

00:32:11   that's that's pretty good [TS]

00:32:13   that's pretty good so going back to the [TS]

00:32:15   time off em so the time off the isn't [TS]

00:32:18   vacations you mentioned TV shows the ICM [TS]

00:32:22   you do video gaming and stuff like that [TS]

00:32:25   during those periods as well yeah video [TS]

00:32:27   gaming actually quite recently it's it's [TS]

00:32:29   been much more TV than video games I [TS]

00:32:32   always tend to go in cycles with video [TS]

00:32:33   games are playing a lot then not being [TS]

00:32:35   very much at all yet depends what [TS]

00:32:37   weather is something out that you wanna [TS]

00:32:38   play right as well yeah thats part [TS]

00:32:41   that's partly it but I think it's [TS]

00:32:43   there's also just something in my brain [TS]

00:32:44   which is more or less engaged by that [TS]

00:32:46   activity and so I think that the like [TS]

00:32:49   the video game TV cycles are our [TS]

00:32:51   opposite cycles that that go on so so [TS]

00:32:55   yeah those are things that I do it [TS]

00:32:57   if I'm feeling dizzy or I sometimes I [TS]

00:33:00   feel like there's something that's on my [TS]

00:33:01   mind in a in a way that is difficult to [TS]

00:33:04   articulate and so that's a time when I [TS]

00:33:06   also really like to just go walking [TS]

00:33:08   around the city and just just kind of [TS]

00:33:10   explore go to a different place got a [TS]

00:33:13   shoe over something in my mind I feel [TS]

00:33:15   like I often don't even know exactly [TS]

00:33:17   what it is that my brain is thinking [TS]

00:33:18   about but going for a long walk and [TS]

00:33:21   really resolve that kind of stuff and [TS]

00:33:24   again an afternoon is a perfect time for [TS]

00:33:25   that kind of thing like what else am I [TS]

00:33:26   gonna do [TS]

00:33:27   I'm not you know I'm gonna record a [TS]

00:33:29   podcast like not every day we should [TS]

00:33:31   look into that [TS]

00:33:32   no we should I mean we've been doing it [TS]

00:33:34   for two days in a row and is one day [TS]

00:33:38   more than enough [TS]

00:33:39   yeah this is supposed to be fortnightly [TS]

00:33:41   that's what this is supposed to be on [TS]

00:33:44   this show we spend an awful lot of time [TS]

00:33:46   talking about side projects as i'm sure [TS]

00:33:48   many of you out there have them those [TS]

00:33:50   side projects they need a website those [TS]

00:33:53   websites need domain names Hoover is the [TS]

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00:33:58   I've bought my domain names from the [TS]

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00:34:14   to have to deal with and stuff you're [TS]

00:34:15   not interested in that's why haha only [TS]

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00:35:06   what about you Mike like for your time [TS]

00:35:10   off be [TS]

00:35:11   I I always just think about your [TS]

00:35:12   schedule like you have this crazy [TS]

00:35:13   schedule that I think I could not live [TS]

00:35:16   with and it seems like your day is just [TS]

00:35:18   very fragmented yeah so it's like what [TS]

00:35:22   like what does that look like for you [TS]

00:35:24   it has been a real problem for me this [TS]

00:35:26   week mmm [TS]

00:35:27   yesterday I had a feeling which I do not [TS]

00:35:30   have very often boredom food so [TS]

00:35:35   yesterday morning I was very bored and [TS]

00:35:39   when I started thinking about it [TS]

00:35:41   what I realized is I haven't been [TS]

00:35:44   outside of the house [TS]

00:35:46   mm in five days mmhmm yeah [TS]

00:35:50   previously to that I was in a relative's [TS]

00:35:53   house for the day [TS]

00:35:55   who and then before that i was home for [TS]

00:35:57   four days [TS]

00:35:58   so what I realized is really i haven't [TS]

00:36:01   left the house in two weeks because the [TS]

00:36:03   times that i left the house I was going [TS]

00:36:05   to other houses you've been a housecat [TS]

00:36:10   for two weeks exactly and this is where [TS]

00:36:12   my there are two factors here that make [TS]

00:36:15   this difficult which is schedule and [TS]

00:36:17   location now why was talking to a dinner [TS]

00:36:22   about this issue saying just go for a [TS]

00:36:24   walk and but the walk is not the thing [TS]

00:36:26   that I need [TS]

00:36:27   it's not being being out of the house is [TS]

00:36:30   not what I need its stimulation when [TS]

00:36:32   they leave the house who and just [TS]

00:36:34   leaving here walking around my outer rim [TS]

00:36:38   planet right is no good for me that he's [TS]

00:36:41   got cattle skulls Jack over you just [TS]

00:36:43   tumbleweed I can chase the tumbleweed [TS]

00:36:45   down the street but that's not gonna do [TS]

00:36:46   much good [TS]

00:36:47   there's not really any benefit to me [TS]

00:36:49   that I feel for doing that you know [TS]

00:36:51   other than the exercise I do exercise on [TS]

00:36:54   don't worry I'm not turning into a blob [TS]

00:36:56   here so this is like an issue that i [TS]

00:36:59   have hand mainly because the last two [TS]

00:37:02   weeks have been uncharacteristically [TS]

00:37:04   busy because of upcoming travel so is [TS]

00:37:09   one of the reasons why the year of less [TS]

00:37:12   quiet week which I'm currently in [TS]

00:37:14   actually busier than my previous busily [TS]

00:37:17   because there is travel coming up [TS]

00:37:20   I presume that this means you are like [TS]

00:37:23   you're doing with me right now recording [TS]

00:37:25   other shows in advance or getting in and [TS]

00:37:28   getting ready in some way for a a [TS]

00:37:31   Content drought while you are at WWDC [TS]

00:37:33   and not going to be recording a ton of [TS]

00:37:35   stuff [TS]

00:37:35   exactly and also other people like of a [TS]

00:37:40   co-host and stuff are moving around a [TS]

00:37:42   lot so there's like it's just a lot of [TS]

00:37:43   like things moving around on my show [TS]

00:37:46   Joel we've had news things that we're [TS]

00:37:48   trying to get ready to do and all that [TS]

00:37:50   sort of stuff so it's like additional [TS]

00:37:51   pressures that maybe wouldn't be here [TS]

00:37:54   usually blue and the other part that you [TS]

00:37:56   mention my schedule combined with the [TS]

00:37:59   fact that i am kind of on the outer rim [TS]

00:38:00   my showed you all will throw things in [TS]

00:38:03   the middle of the day [TS]

00:38:04   yeah yeah so we record a two o'clock i [TS]

00:38:09   record some other shows at three o'clock [TS]

00:38:11   so once i'm done with my morning work i [TS]

00:38:15   can't really go anywhere because I [TS]

00:38:18   wouldn't make it back in time because [TS]

00:38:20   I'm like an hour away from anything I [TS]

00:38:23   want to do right so this is where the [TS]

00:38:26   location is a problem which is why you [TS]

00:38:29   know when we move which is getting [TS]

00:38:31   closer and closer one of the key things [TS]

00:38:33   that we're looking for is to be in [TS]

00:38:36   civilization as some kind [TS]

00:38:38   so I won't have to have this feeling [TS]

00:38:40   because I can just go take a walk and [TS]

00:38:42   maybe go get a coffee in a different [TS]

00:38:43   location or they take a nice walk around [TS]

00:38:46   a nice place to a thing go to the store [TS]

00:38:49   you know I can do all of these things [TS]

00:38:50   and they'll be more pleasant for me who [TS]

00:38:53   but the good thing is I don't feel like [TS]

00:38:55   this very frequently because I do make [TS]

00:38:57   an effort in usual times to plan things [TS]

00:39:01   outside of the home going to visit [TS]

00:39:03   people having lunches of people and [TS]

00:39:04   stuff like that but it was very [TS]

00:39:06   interesting to me to confirm or I [TS]

00:39:09   expected would be the case which is if I [TS]

00:39:11   stay in the house too long i would get [TS]

00:39:13   the boredom feeling but it is funny that [TS]

00:39:16   it's maybe the first time I felt this in [TS]

00:39:20   the two years I've been self-employed [TS]

00:39:22   hmm yes it's it's a funny thing is [TS]

00:39:26   boredom is a feeling for children and [TS]

00:39:30   for office monkeys that's where that [TS]

00:39:32   feeling seems like it would be the most [TS]

00:39:33   part [TS]

00:39:34   sent in the population and to be [TS]

00:39:38   self-employed there's always something [TS]

00:39:40   to do I I I think boredom [TS]

00:39:43   I caught myself feeling slightly bored a [TS]

00:39:48   few weeks ago and i just noticed it as a [TS]

00:39:51   bizarre feeling like oh I haven't felt [TS]

00:39:53   this way in forever I haven't felt this [TS]

00:39:55   way in a really long time [TS]

00:39:57   yep that's how I was like I put my ipad [TS]

00:39:59   down and I went poof [TS]

00:40:01   I was like oh no haha like patting your [TS]

00:40:05   legs with your hands and I was looking [TS]

00:40:07   around there's nothing to do there's [TS]

00:40:09   nothing to do list i have something [TS]

00:40:11   later on but nothing to do right now [TS]

00:40:13   I've already watched on my youtube [TS]

00:40:14   videos I've already mentally and [TS]

00:40:16   uncharted there's nothing to do [TS]

00:40:18   yeah this like like my summer planning [TS]

00:40:23   like some of the other stuff we're [TS]

00:40:24   talking about now I feel like this is [TS]

00:40:25   all falling into the category of this [TS]

00:40:27   meta skill of observing yourself [TS]

00:40:30   yeah and it is a really key skill to in [TS]

00:40:35   those moments take note of your own [TS]

00:40:38   mental state and what's occurring and [TS]

00:40:42   that i know i think that that's sounds [TS]

00:40:44   kind of obvious but I really think this [TS]

00:40:46   is a learned skill to cognitively learn [TS]

00:40:51   to watch yourself and then walk yourself [TS]

00:40:54   through precisely what you're talking [TS]

00:40:56   about here thinking like why do I feel [TS]

00:40:58   bored and trend tracking it back as [TS]

00:41:00   opposed to just accepting that boredom [TS]

00:41:02   is a feeling that you occasionally [TS]

00:41:03   experience and projecting outward like [TS]

00:41:06   oh my media is not entertaining enough [TS]

00:41:09   for me right now that's why I'm being [TS]

00:41:11   bored like no now that's that's not what [TS]

00:41:13   it is there's something there's [TS]

00:41:15   something that you are doing that is [TS]

00:41:17   causing this in yourself and so then you [TS]

00:41:20   recognize ago I have been a housecat for [TS]

00:41:22   14 days in a row now I'm feeling bored [TS]

00:41:25   yeah there's there's been no external [TS]

00:41:27   stimulation everything is just the same [TS]

00:41:29   for everything is just media consumption [TS]

00:41:31   but things really key to be able to [TS]

00:41:33   recognize that in yourself and then be [TS]

00:41:36   able to try to course-correct and and [TS]

00:41:39   act on that I was also quite pleased [TS]

00:41:41   because it proved a hypothesis that i [TS]

00:41:43   had about myself [TS]

00:41:45   you know and i was able to i was i was [TS]

00:41:48   happy in the sense i was able to [TS]

00:41:50   understand that this could happen and [TS]

00:41:52   then when it did happen i recognized it [TS]

00:41:54   right and it also just makes me very [TS]

00:41:57   wary of allowing it to happen which is [TS]

00:42:01   why you know as dead as we get closer [TS]

00:42:04   and closer to the end of the year I mean [TS]

00:42:06   still halfway for the year but you know [TS]

00:42:08   we're about to be on the other end of [TS]

00:42:12   the middle right so we're moving towards [TS]

00:42:14   the end of the year [TS]

00:42:15   I'm beginning already to think about [TS]

00:42:17   what does 2017 look like commitments [TS]

00:42:20   why's this is this is this is perfect [TS]

00:42:25   because this is exactly what I've been [TS]

00:42:26   thinking about so intensely and in the [TS]

00:42:28   past several weeks as well it is almost [TS]

00:42:31   mentally like well the rest of the year [TS]

00:42:34   is is kind of set yeah i'm not going to [TS]

00:42:36   make any changes now [TS]

00:42:37   yeah i might do new stuff but i'm not [TS]

00:42:39   going to get rid of anything because [TS]

00:42:40   it's all planned it's all there also [TS]

00:42:42   exists will accept it that is it there's [TS]

00:42:45   a schedule in place yet but already [TS]

00:42:47   thinking forward towards next year and [TS]

00:42:50   like what what does next year look like [TS]

00:42:52   and doing the same thing on a bigger [TS]

00:42:54   scale of what is this year looks like [TS]

00:42:55   what his last year look like what do you [TS]

00:42:57   do again they along with the meta [TS]

00:43:00   cognition that this feeling of the the [TS]

00:43:04   project of a human life is to design a [TS]

00:43:06   life that it wants to live like this [TS]

00:43:09   this is the ultimate thing that you want [TS]

00:43:10   to try to do is make your life more of a [TS]

00:43:14   life that you want to live and so doing [TS]

00:43:18   the same thing of thinking forward to [TS]

00:43:19   2017 and thinking okay how can 2017 be [TS]

00:43:26   better than 2016 what structural changes [TS]

00:43:30   are there that can be made in the future [TS]

00:43:32   that will place me in a situation where [TS]

00:43:36   i like my life even better than I [TS]

00:43:38   already liked it i think this is one of [TS]

00:43:40   these things you kind of naturally end [TS]

00:43:41   up thinking about because it's just [TS]

00:43:43   funny that you say that you again at [TS]

00:43:46   this point which is essentially not yet [TS]

00:43:49   but barely halfway through the year [TS]

00:43:51   you already are quite naturally thinking [TS]

00:43:53   forward toward next year like that's [TS]

00:43:55   just something that's that's coming [TS]

00:43:56   across your mental horizons [TS]

00:43:57   I think it's you know a lot of it is [TS]

00:43:59   because by this point in the year I at [TS]

00:44:03   least accumulates and new things and I [TS]

00:44:05   want to work on some new stuff so I'm [TS]

00:44:08   like okay you're at the halfway point [TS]

00:44:09   now and how are you feeling okay you're [TS]

00:44:12   going to feel like maybe you've got a [TS]

00:44:13   lot going on but wait you're not [TS]

00:44:15   stopping em so it's just a case of over [TS]

00:44:19   the hump time to consider what next year [TS]

00:44:22   looks like and it's just like you know [TS]

00:44:24   how we were talking in January about new [TS]

00:44:29   year being time to reflect who i feel [TS]

00:44:31   like in the same vein half-year is just [TS]

00:44:34   in the time to start making yourself [TS]

00:44:36   aware of next year just like a little [TS]

00:44:39   mental clock thing that happens around [TS]

00:44:42   like okay I've been doing this what I [TS]

00:44:45   set out in January for six months now [TS]

00:44:48   now just time to start preparing myself [TS]

00:44:51   for what the next part looks like i [TS]

00:44:53   should buy this point in the year of [TS]

00:44:55   worked out if the 2016 plan was an [TS]

00:44:58   effective one moving now how do i [TS]

00:45:00   tweaked it to create 2017 plan right and [TS]

00:45:03   the the rest of 2016 is in some sense [TS]

00:45:06   execution on the what has already been [TS]

00:45:09   set up yet right it's like we're just [TS]

00:45:12   going to continue to execute what has [TS]

00:45:14   been set up and then thinking thinking [TS]

00:45:15   forward toward the next year [TS]

00:45:17   yeah there's no point for course [TS]

00:45:19   correction in unless there's something [TS]

00:45:20   significantly wrong in which there isn't [TS]

00:45:23   I mean you know your course correcting [TS]

00:45:25   in some way in that you're getting help [TS]

00:45:28   yes that's true although i will still [TS]

00:45:30   say that all of this is falling under [TS]

00:45:32   the year of less this is fish is this is [TS]

00:45:35   why that project was set up for this [TS]

00:45:37   year and two to go even on a1a like zoom [TS]

00:45:41   out one additional level is another part [TS]

00:45:45   of the motivation behind the year of [TS]

00:45:47   last was also also relates to what we [TS]

00:45:50   were discussing before which is [TS]

00:45:51   recognizing I have been really bad at [TS]

00:45:54   taking vacation time for myself and the [TS]

00:45:58   last vacation time that I theoretically [TS]

00:46:01   had over the summer I was not very good [TS]

00:46:03   at doing that I was bad at vacationing [TS]

00:46:05   uh-huh and so the year of less is in a [TS]

00:46:08   larger part of way of thinking of okay [TS]

00:46:10   well [TS]

00:46:11   how can i setup structures so that it is [TS]

00:46:13   easier for me to take some dedicated [TS]

00:46:16   amount of time off right and and but [TS]

00:46:18   that but even that is like okay I need [TS]

00:46:20   to get those systems in place in 2016 if [TS]

00:46:25   there is any hope of rearranging [TS]

00:46:27   schedules or commitments in 2017 his [TS]

00:46:31   it's funny to think of these things on [TS]

00:46:34   such a long term but if you don't think [TS]

00:46:37   about this stuff you can't do any kind [TS]

00:46:39   of course correction in our life and [TS]

00:46:41   everything always takes longer than you [TS]

00:46:44   think it's it's going to so that's why [TS]

00:46:46   can take a whole year to think about how [TS]

00:46:48   can i reduce the number of hours that i [TS]

00:46:51   am working on stuff while not [TS]

00:46:54   dramatically reducing the actual output [TS]

00:46:56   and then if that is successful that can [TS]

00:46:59   have knock-on effects towards what [TS]

00:47:02   happens in the future do anything that [TS]

00:47:05   you want to reveal about your 2017 like [TS]

00:47:06   to see your plans you don't tell people [TS]

00:47:08   about I don't have secret plans yeah so [TS]

00:47:12   what are you thinking about that towards [TS]

00:47:13   2017 like what what is pulling your mind [TS]

00:47:16   in that direction the same thing as last [TS]

00:47:18   year so that the 2016 change was cutting [TS]

00:47:23   a show and reducing the shedule some [TS]

00:47:26   others em so it will be the same kind of [TS]

00:47:30   thing I expect like that's one thinking [TS]

00:47:33   now is like okay that worked pretty well [TS]

00:47:36   what can I do [TS]

00:47:38   so are there any shows which would be [TS]

00:47:40   natural to end at the end of the year [TS]

00:47:42   and are there any shows which would be [TS]

00:47:45   natural to reduce commitment in some way [TS]

00:47:47   maybe who I don't change the publishing [TS]

00:47:51   schedule of them but maybe there are [TS]

00:47:53   parts of the process which I won't need [TS]

00:47:55   I won't do anymore [TS]

00:47:57   whoever that is planning it differently [TS]

00:47:59   or editing it differently [TS]

00:48:01   what are the the changes that i can make [TS]

00:48:04   to reduce that and this is the thing [TS]

00:48:07   it's not for me about reducing the [TS]

00:48:09   amount of work it's freeing up time [TS]

00:48:13   again Lou so I'm not looking to like do [TS]

00:48:16   less and chill who you know I'm not [TS]

00:48:19   getting into the grey mentality is just [TS]

00:48:21   just chill i'm looking to [TS]

00:48:24   juice commitments so i can do new things [TS]

00:48:28   because I like working i like it a lot [TS]

00:48:32   and a lot of the time off stuff that I [TS]

00:48:35   do is to enable myself to be able to [TS]

00:48:38   work more effectively because I give [TS]

00:48:40   myself the time to relax because i know [TS]

00:48:42   that helps me but in the same vein I [TS]

00:48:45   also then try and find ways and other [TS]

00:48:47   than if this is good or bad to turn the [TS]

00:48:49   things that I enjoy into work so it all [TS]

00:48:52   comes full circle [TS]

00:48:54   it doesn't stop my enjoyment of those [TS]

00:48:55   things i still play video games for 12 [TS]

00:48:57   hours but then I just doing a podcast [TS]

00:48:59   episode about it and it feels like it [TS]

00:49:01   was all ok right getting [TS]

00:49:03   return-on-investment front retainment [TS]

00:49:04   time there huh yeah well this i think [TS]

00:49:08   this is this is a very natural thing and [TS]

00:49:15   my version of this as well is it i am I [TS]

00:49:20   know that I am happier with side [TS]

00:49:23   projects and other things to work on [TS]

00:49:25   aside from the main things and it's [TS]

00:49:27   similar thing of feeling that I want to [TS]

00:49:31   be able to clear time on my schedule and [TS]

00:49:35   part of that means like and I always [TS]

00:49:36   have like projects that i'm thinking [TS]

00:49:39   about maybe this would work out maybe [TS]

00:49:40   this this would work out [TS]

00:49:41   I'm filtering them all now through the [TS]

00:49:43   year of less filter that if they're [TS]

00:49:47   successful other people need to be able [TS]

00:49:48   to do the morning to be able to pass the [TS]

00:49:50   monitor they need to be completed things [TS]

00:49:51   again very happy to have that mental [TS]

00:49:54   filter in place but i'm still very much [TS]

00:49:57   in the mindset of as well freeing up [TS]

00:49:59   time and very consciously not working on [TS]

00:50:01   any of those side projects until I have [TS]

00:50:02   freed up a significant number of hours [TS]

00:50:04   but then the thing that I'm also [TS]

00:50:06   wondering about is I agree with you that [TS]

00:50:08   that vacation time is necessary recovery [TS]

00:50:11   time and recognizing like I haven't been [TS]

00:50:13   good at that and so feeling is there a [TS]

00:50:15   way to aggregate a bunch of these hours [TS]

00:50:18   together so that in the future at some [TS]

00:50:20   point i can say i am taking a legitimate [TS]

00:50:22   one hundred percent week off [TS]

00:50:23   I'm doing nothing and i am going to feel [TS]

00:50:26   glorious about it and that will be ok [TS]

00:50:29   and then after that recovery period [TS]

00:50:31   going back into the regular schedule [TS]

00:50:35   because [TS]

00:50:36   even though again our very first episode [TS]

00:50:39   was titled I don't really like work i am [TS]

00:50:44   very aware that I am still in the [TS]

00:50:45   category of the kind of person who if I [TS]

00:50:48   don't have something to work on [TS]

00:50:50   I would go crazy like I i need to have [TS]

00:50:54   some kind of work to do and without that [TS]

00:50:57   it would just be a descent into madness [TS]

00:51:01   there always has to be stuff to work on [TS]

00:51:03   but there's the interesting question of [TS]

00:51:06   how do you rearrange hours in the day [TS]

00:51:08   how do you how do you arrange your time [TS]

00:51:11   to be most effective so that you can [TS]

00:51:13   work on the things that are of interest [TS]

00:51:17   to you and that are also hopefully [TS]

00:51:20   profitable in some way to pay the bills [TS]

00:51:23   and to fulfill all of the various [TS]

00:51:25   financial obligations that we all have [TS]

00:51:27   what is a great vacation or a great [TS]

00:51:31   vacation if you will let me hit here's [TS]

00:51:34   the thing those trips to Amsterdam which [TS]

00:51:36   we have made fun of various times on [TS]

00:51:38   this show locations [TS]

00:51:41   yeah those were in a way my attempts [TS]

00:51:46   this year to try to do a vacation sort [TS]

00:51:50   of but i knew i wasn't able to actually [TS]

00:51:54   take time off to do nothing but I found [TS]

00:51:58   those very interesting experiences [TS]

00:51:59   because i was working in a very very [TS]

00:52:04   focused way but I also felt like I am [TS]

00:52:08   getting a lot of the same benefits that [TS]

00:52:11   I would get from a vacation and I think [TS]

00:52:14   this is this is just simply the again [TS]

00:52:17   knowing yourself and knowing how to work [TS]

00:52:20   with yourself and because i am quite [TS]

00:52:24   naturally and an introverted person [TS]

00:52:26   those trips were intentionally arranged [TS]

00:52:29   so that I'm not really talking to [TS]

00:52:32   anybody when I'm there and I was also [TS]

00:52:34   very consciously minimizing as much as [TS]

00:52:37   possible my communication with the [TS]

00:52:39   outside world and so those were really [TS]

00:52:44   interesting experiences to me of i feel [TS]

00:52:47   like i am able to have some kind of [TS]

00:52:49   recovery [TS]

00:52:50   while still working as long as i am very [TS]

00:52:55   conscious about being aware of what are [TS]

00:52:57   the things that are most draining to me [TS]

00:52:59   and it's like oh ok well one of those [TS]

00:53:02   things are unusual or new social [TS]

00:53:05   engagements or more thing or things like [TS]

00:53:07   the podcast where this is not an unusual [TS]

00:53:11   or new social engagement but there is [TS]

00:53:13   there is something about this which is [TS]

00:53:17   always a bit mentally draining in the [TS]

00:53:18   same way because there is the awareness [TS]

00:53:20   of the audience that is listening like [TS]

00:53:22   this is a thing that is going out into [TS]

00:53:24   the public world this is not mike and i [TS]

00:53:27   just meeting for lunch conversation so [TS]

00:53:31   those trips are really interesting and I [TS]

00:53:34   think oftentimes many people's idea of [TS]

00:53:37   what a vacation might be like oh we're [TS]

00:53:40   going to go away with a bunch of people [TS]

00:53:41   to a fun place like that can actually be [TS]

00:53:43   hugely draining for me like that's [TS]

00:53:45   what's that is what is going to happen [TS]

00:53:48   this summer in no small part with some [TS]

00:53:50   of the family obligations that i have is [TS]

00:53:52   to any outside observer the the [TS]

00:53:55   activities that i am doing they will [TS]

00:53:57   look like vacations but i will be [TS]

00:53:59   totally exhausted by them [TS]

00:54:01   it's like oh I don't i'm not doing a [TS]

00:54:04   whole lot of work there's just a whole [TS]

00:54:05   bunch of hanging out with people and [TS]

00:54:07   like oh there's things to do and [TS]

00:54:10   activities to participate in and this [TS]

00:54:11   looks like a vacation but it is not it [TS]

00:54:14   is not if you are me so I think for me [TS]

00:54:18   vacations at their best are always about [TS]

00:54:22   limits inactivity or very conscious [TS]

00:54:27   choices about what is being engaged in [TS]

00:54:31   that that that to me is what a vacation [TS]

00:54:33   is that is what I feel like is the the [TS]

00:54:36   best return on investment per hour spent [TS]

00:54:39   of recovery received so is Amsterdam the [TS]

00:54:43   best type of vacation and all is it [TS]

00:54:46   sitting on a beach for you all that kind [TS]

00:54:51   of holiday the not doing anything all [TS]

00:54:53   day what's best then if it's like low [TS]

00:54:58   low social interaction and low work [TS]

00:55:02   interaction is you know the Amsterdam is [TS]

00:55:05   high work interaction [TS]

00:55:07   yeah I this is this is what i'm trying [TS]

00:55:11   to think about towards towards for next [TS]

00:55:13   year is like how am I going to do this [TS]

00:55:16   and one of the things I'm thinking about [TS]

00:55:17   is an Amsterdam type trip is very [TS]

00:55:22   effective because it is it is high work [TS]

00:55:24   but low social interaction high recovery [TS]

00:55:28   but i still need trips or vacations [TS]

00:55:33   every once in a while that have some [TS]

00:55:35   period of time which is just absolute [TS]

00:55:38   nothingness and so last summer which was [TS]

00:55:42   which was quite busy at the end of the [TS]

00:55:45   trip the best decision that my wife and [TS]

00:55:47   I made was that after a whole bunch of [TS]

00:55:49   things we were doing a place we're going [TS]

00:55:51   like things to do we intentionally [TS]

00:55:54   scheduled a mini post vacation recovery [TS]

00:55:59   time by going to Las Vegas and we just [TS]

00:56:03   rented a nice room in Las Vegas and did [TS]

00:56:07   nothing for a few days and it was just [TS]

00:56:09   glorious and and that was a real kind of [TS]

00:56:12   like this is this is great i can i can [TS]

00:56:15   relax i can just there's nothing to do i [TS]

00:56:18   need this every once in awhile of [TS]

00:56:19   there's no responsibility [TS]

00:56:21   there's no getting up there is no [TS]

00:56:23   writing is just a total break and [TS]

00:56:26   because that is a thing that went really [TS]

00:56:28   well last summer that is actually what [TS]

00:56:30   we're planning on doing again this [TS]

00:56:31   summer is like I have this incredibly [TS]

00:56:33   unusual busy summer but at the very end [TS]

00:56:36   of it the last thing that we're going to [TS]

00:56:38   do is we are once again we're going to [TS]

00:56:41   go to Las Vegas we're renting a nice [TS]

00:56:42   room [TS]

00:56:43   we're going to spend a few days there [TS]

00:56:44   and we're just going to do nothing and i [TS]

00:56:49   feel like i need i need a little bit [TS]

00:56:51   more of the do nothing at all time in my [TS]

00:56:54   life that i currently have like I feel [TS]

00:56:57   over the past two years in particular I [TS]

00:56:59   have [TS]

00:57:00   had two little do nothing time I don't [TS]

00:57:03   need a ton of it but i need some of it [TS]

00:57:07   on a one as honest um somewhat of an [TS]

00:57:10   interval that it doesn't just randomly [TS]

00:57:11   it doesn't just randomly occur but now [TS]

00:57:14   this is one of these cases where I [TS]

00:57:17   imagine Mike that you might be a little [TS]

00:57:19   bit different from me in this scenario [TS]

00:57:21   what some with the mic asian like hello [TS]

00:57:26   I recently most of my vacations are [TS]

00:57:32   centered around conferences em and it's [TS]

00:57:36   because I take my vacations as times to [TS]

00:57:39   see my friends because very few of my [TS]

00:57:42   friends live in the same country as me [TS]

00:57:43   right [TS]

00:57:45   I'm you do which is great which means i [TS]

00:57:47   see you often other friends and maybe [TS]

00:57:50   see once a year or twice a year [TS]

00:57:52   something like that so I'm able to [TS]

00:57:54   couple these things and because they're [TS]

00:57:55   also like interesting locations i very [TS]

00:57:59   much like going to America and is [TS]

00:58:01   usually nice places in America that i'll [TS]

00:58:03   go to for the source stuff and they are [TS]

00:58:06   kind of work occasions because there are [TS]

00:58:08   working type things happening but it's [TS]

00:58:11   way lower [TS]

00:58:12   I tend not to record on these things if [TS]

00:58:14   I do it's very few and I've tried exam [TS]

00:58:18   Francisco largely WTC last year was [TS]

00:58:21   quite a lot of show recordings and other [TS]

00:58:23   things happening and this year was [TS]

00:58:27   planned very differently to hopefully [TS]

00:58:29   maybe it did who knows it's already [TS]

00:58:32   happened but maybe it was rather a be it [TS]

00:58:34   wasn't ok we'll find out and adjust [TS]

00:58:36   again recording with you was an [TS]

00:58:39   unexpected thing on the calendar by hey [TS]

00:58:43   huh that's how these things go [TS]

00:58:45   it's all about cooperation and I do like [TS]

00:58:49   though the do-nothing vacation I just [TS]

00:58:52   don't really plan for those as much who [TS]

00:58:55   because one of the things that has [TS]

00:58:58   occurred is me and Deena like to make [TS]

00:59:00   sure we try and take trips together [TS]

00:59:02   which typically means that she will take [TS]

00:59:05   a trip with me to a friend its location [TS]

00:59:08   and America sent around a thing [TS]

00:59:09   happening and then maybe i will take [TS]

00:59:12   trips of her [TS]

00:59:13   to Romania and we'll see friends but it [TS]

00:59:16   you know we are thinking again for later [TS]

00:59:19   this year to maybe take a trip with my [TS]

00:59:22   family which will be a do-nothing [TS]

00:59:25   location because i feel like i could do [TS]

00:59:30   that like when i take family vacations [TS]

00:59:32   or have taken or would take family [TS]

00:59:35   vacations I would feel way let's [TS]

00:59:37   obligated like do stuff with my family [TS]

00:59:40   Lou that maybe you do I feel like there [TS]

00:59:42   is an obligation within you to when [TS]

00:59:44   you're on a family vacation family [TS]

00:59:46   activities i don't really do that and my [TS]

00:59:50   family understand that about me which is [TS]

00:59:53   actually quite interesting they're going [TS]

00:59:55   talking about this is i may be more you [TS]

00:59:58   with my family then you [TS]

00:59:58   with my family then you [TS]

01:00:00   haha yeah with my immediate family there [TS]

01:00:03   is no obligation to really do things uh [TS]

01:00:05   I have a very small family Z so I think [TS]

01:00:09   that's why I'm able to get away with it [TS]

01:00:11   but people tend not to bother me and my [TS]

01:00:14   family with stuff because they know i [TS]

01:00:16   just have no tolerance for it which is [TS]

01:00:19   quite nice [TS]

01:00:20   so on a family vacation I wouldn't do [TS]

01:00:23   anything like that and if we don't do [TS]

01:00:25   that trip I would very much before the [TS]

01:00:27   end of the year like for us to do a [TS]

01:00:29   do-nothing vacation the house buying [TS]

01:00:31   process might kind of get in the way of [TS]

01:00:33   that arm but yeah I i like to try and do [TS]

01:00:36   that as well but the majority of my [TS]

01:00:38   vacations are centered around some kind [TS]

01:00:40   of big activity that brings people [TS]

01:00:41   together [TS]

01:00:42   yeah for me and interesting intersection [TS]

01:00:45   of sort of doing nothing but also [TS]

01:00:49   engaging was a few years ago my parents [TS]

01:00:54   treated my wife and I to a cruise so the [TS]

01:00:59   four of us went on a cruise and it was [TS]

01:01:05   just fantastic because a cruise ship is [TS]

01:01:08   an environment in which while there are [TS]

01:01:12   many things going on [TS]

01:01:14   I again really enjoyed the constraint of [TS]

01:01:18   it so well it's not actually a whole lot [TS]

01:01:21   to do you know you this [TS]

01:01:23   the internet is unusable because it's [TS]

01:01:26   going through a satellite and they all [TS]

01:01:28   actually that's a benefit [TS]

01:01:29   I like this there's there's not really [TS]

01:01:31   any internet to use there's very little [TS]

01:01:34   to do except kinda like sit and read a [TS]

01:01:38   book and watch the scenery go by and the [TS]

01:01:41   cruise ship is also a a nice environment [TS]

01:01:44   oh because it's relatively small I keep [TS]

01:01:46   bumping into my parents right you can't [TS]

01:01:49   you cannot run into people and it's it's [TS]

01:01:51   like an artificial tiny village [TS]

01:01:54   almost yeah yeah and in this really [TS]

01:01:57   constrained but enjoyable way and [TS]

01:02:01   there's always something to like remark [TS]

01:02:04   upon because the cruise ship is going [TS]

01:02:06   past interesting places and i just i [TS]

01:02:09   found that was just a really pleasant [TS]

01:02:13   a to have a trip that just totally felt [TS]

01:02:16   like recovery time but also had the [TS]

01:02:19   thing that is beneficial and best about [TS]

01:02:22   traveling which is novelty like your [TS]

01:02:25   brain needs some kind of novelty [TS]

01:02:27   otherwise you become like Mike was your [TS]

01:02:30   board or you feel like you're an indoor [TS]

01:02:32   cat and I don't know is that i found [TS]

01:02:35   that was just a really great interaction [TS]

01:02:38   like this is this is this is just [TS]

01:02:40   perfect [TS]

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01:04:39   space for supporting cortex and really a [TS]

01:04:42   fan I feel like we've been really [TS]

01:04:44   philosophical on this episode Mikey this [TS]

01:04:48   episode being an episode out of time it [TS]

01:04:51   has a totally different feel to it [TS]

01:04:53   do you feel that it is weird right I [TS]

01:04:55   feel way more raw than usual yeah i'm [TS]

01:05:00   looking for a very strange it is Rhys a [TS]

01:05:04   good word maybe the continuity somehow [TS]

01:05:08   keeps the safe [TS]

01:05:10   maybe when were out of continuity [TS]

01:05:12   everything just go out the window [TS]

01:05:14   yeah but it almost feels like i'm just [TS]

01:05:17   i'm here in my office just floating in [TS]

01:05:22   the black void of space talking into a [TS]

01:05:25   microphone that that is the feeling of [TS]

01:05:27   this episode is where my perspective [TS]

01:05:30   because I don't wear so much uncertainty [TS]

01:05:31   to it [TS]

01:05:33   yeah what will have happened to our [TS]

01:05:35   lives in between now on this episode [TS]

01:05:37   being released we don't even look [TS]

01:05:39   yeah who knows nobody knows it's just [TS]

01:05:43   been it's been very strange this episode [TS]

01:05:46   out of time and I think and we need to [TS]

01:05:49   try to try to get ourselves back into [TS]

01:05:53   the regular space-time continuum with [TS]

01:05:56   some normality and I think we should do [TS]

01:06:00   that with a little bit of ass cortex [TS]

01:06:01   that's a great idea let's bring the [TS]

01:06:02   people back to us yeah yeah that's what [TS]

01:06:05   it is this is like calling out in the [TS]

01:06:06   void into the other voices that have [TS]

01:06:09   spoken to us please tell me that you [TS]

01:06:11   have some ass cortex questions ideal [TS]

01:06:14   agreement i do and the first ones from [TS]

01:06:16   kevin i look at that your voice is even [TS]

01:06:18   normal now or he's not happy again if [TS]

01:06:22   the normal Mike voice okay Kevin would [TS]

01:06:24   like to know what is your relationship [TS]

01:06:27   with magic the gathering apparently [TS]

01:06:30   kevin has recognized some references in [TS]

01:06:32   the video almost wondering if you have [TS]

01:06:35   played and if you do play [TS]

01:06:37   do you know what Matt Magic the [TS]

01:06:38   Gathering is my know what [TS]

01:06:40   it is yes a trading card game okay yeah [TS]

01:06:43   yeah magic is a trading card game it is [TS]

01:06:48   i I'm I'm not it is one of the first I [TS]

01:06:52   ever came across [TS]

01:06:54   I don't know how early it is in the [TS]

01:06:56   history of these actual things of [TS]

01:06:58   collectible card game I feel understands [TS]

01:07:02   the one though right [TS]

01:07:04   like it is the trading card game it [TS]

01:07:07   feels like the progenitor of the modern [TS]

01:07:10   idea you know what trading card games [TS]

01:07:13   are and i am I got into magic when I was [TS]

01:07:19   in high school I think I can't remember [TS]

01:07:21   how but it was it was right at the very [TS]

01:07:22   beginning because i remember reading [TS]

01:07:25   some article in some physical magazine [TS]

01:07:28   that was talking about this new thing [TS]

01:07:30   and I thought it looked cool and i [TS]

01:07:34   remember bugging my parents to take me [TS]

01:07:36   to some game shops that I could buy [TS]

01:07:39   these cards [TS]

01:07:40   mhm and of course I didn't realize that [TS]

01:07:44   these card games are set up to be like [TS]

01:07:48   drug habits that he might he's you can [TS]

01:07:52   get in really easy right you can you can [TS]

01:07:54   start out by just over here you go you [TS]

01:07:56   buy yourself a starter deck and it may [TS]

01:07:58   maybe kid you want to buy some expansion [TS]

01:08:00   packs and yeah i would like to buy some [TS]

01:08:02   expansion packs and then next year they [TS]

01:08:05   come out with a more powerful version of [TS]

01:08:06   the drug and so you have to buy more [TS]

01:08:08   expansion packs if you want to you want [TS]

01:08:10   to keep up with what's happening in the [TS]

01:08:12   game and I really liked it [TS]

01:08:15   magic just super fit the kind of thing [TS]

01:08:20   that my brain likes thinking about all [TS]

01:08:22   of the different cards and how all of [TS]

01:08:24   the cards interact with all the other [TS]

01:08:25   cards and the systems of it I really [TS]

01:08:28   really liked it but I did not have a [TS]

01:08:32   large enough wallet at the time to [TS]

01:08:35   express how much I liked magic and so my [TS]

01:08:39   feeling of magic from from being a kid [TS]

01:08:41   was mostly i do not have enough money to [TS]

01:08:44   play this came i always have to play it [TS]

01:08:47   with whatever cards i have just scrounge [TS]

01:08:48   together [TS]

01:08:50   so I i really i really liked it a lot as [TS]

01:08:52   a kid as an adult I have played some of [TS]

01:08:54   the ipad versions of it because that's a [TS]

01:08:56   much cheaper way to get into the game [TS]

01:08:57   i'm not super into it as an adult in no [TS]

01:09:01   small part because there have been so [TS]

01:09:04   many expansions and so many add-ons that [TS]

01:09:06   the game is horrific really complicated [TS]

01:09:10   now if you haven't been following it [TS]

01:09:12   every year with all the little changes [TS]

01:09:14   that they make but yeah [TS]

01:09:16   magic the gathering quite like it got [TS]

01:09:18   into it as a kid and if i can make a 15 [TS]

01:09:23   years out-of-date magic the gathering [TS]

01:09:24   reference in my videos i'm not gonna [TS]

01:09:27   pass up on that you have a plane hast on [TS]

01:09:29   hearthstone is really fun [TS]

01:09:34   have you played hard stone yeah I I've [TS]

01:09:37   have played and suck so bad [TS]

01:09:41   listen there's never a discussion about [TS]

01:09:43   how good we are at these things it's [TS]

01:09:45   just a question of have you played yeah [TS]

01:09:47   I have played heart hearthstone is for [TS]

01:09:50   listeners it's to me it feels like the [TS]

01:09:54   next generation of magic the gathering [TS]

01:09:56   it's it's all on the ipad or on desktop [TS]

01:10:00   is its cross-platform yeah right i [TS]

01:10:02   always forget that it's on desktop yeah [TS]

01:10:03   it's a collectible card game but what I [TS]

01:10:06   love about it is they so understand that [TS]

01:10:08   nobody has physical cards here it is the [TS]

01:10:11   abstract idea of a card and it allows [TS]

01:10:13   them to do a lot of really interesting [TS]

01:10:14   things digitally with the game [TS]

01:10:17   hearthstone is a thing that is i slide [TS]

01:10:19   in and out of but i think it's it's [TS]

01:10:21   really fun but hard stone totally killed [TS]

01:10:26   my ability to play magic because all of [TS]

01:10:29   the things that you learn in magic that [TS]

01:10:31   make you a good magic player i think [TS]

01:10:33   hard stone was designed specifically so [TS]

01:10:35   that all of your magic habits will just [TS]

01:10:39   be like sliding a knife into your own [TS]

01:10:43   gut when you play the game if you play [TS]

01:10:45   it like i love i love magic based card [TS]

01:10:48   games let me play hearthstone and it's [TS]

01:10:50   well i'm going to die immediately [TS]

01:10:52   everything that I would do in magic [TS]

01:10:54   which would be a more smart strategic [TS]

01:10:55   move will get you killed immediately a [TS]

01:10:57   hearthstone [TS]

01:10:58   so I I think I'm probably never going to [TS]

01:11:01   go back to playing magic because once [TS]

01:11:02   you do hearthstone it's it's hard to go [TS]

01:11:04   back but it's super fun i really like it [TS]

01:11:07   and I it's fun to play people [TS]

01:11:10   anonymously online i'm not very good at [TS]

01:11:14   all but i don't care like that's not the [TS]

01:11:15   point is to be good [TS]

01:11:17   the point is I'm doing something fun [TS]

01:11:18   while I'm sitting on the couch in [TS]

01:11:21   trading card game physical trading card [TS]

01:11:23   game of a plate was the Pokemon Trading [TS]

01:11:24   Card Game of course which was awesome [TS]

01:11:27   they even made a gameboy version of the [TS]

01:11:31   card game which was great to Pokemon [TS]

01:11:35   Trading Card Game yeah it's still going [TS]

01:11:37   it's still a very popular trading card [TS]

01:11:40   game is still making it and still [TS]

01:11:41   produce impacts and stuff like that [TS]

01:11:44   I i used to play it with my friends you [TS]

01:11:46   know during the whole massive pokemon [TS]

01:11:48   phase [TS]

01:11:49   mmm yes that's the only one I've ever [TS]

01:11:51   played but i remember when i would buy [TS]

01:11:53   my packs that magic were always in the [TS]

01:11:55   same cases from the places that i bought [TS]

01:11:57   them from that's how I know about magic [TS]

01:11:59   because it was always there when I was [TS]

01:12:01   buying the booster packs for the pokemon [TS]

01:12:04   I'm so i was looking at ya when you [TS]

01:12:08   gonna get that shiny Charizard that was [TS]

01:12:10   the cars and that was the card [TS]

01:12:15   oh and of course i just realized [TS]

01:12:17   everyone will want to know all the magic [TS]

01:12:19   players will want to know when I played [TS]

01:12:21   magic my preferred colors were blue and [TS]

01:12:24   black [TS]

01:12:25   so yeah fun memories to play the pokemon [TS]

01:12:27   game very much anymore [TS]

01:12:29   no I I don't even have any cards anymore [TS]

01:12:31   like I don't know where they are had a [TS]

01:12:33   big collection cards used to love it i [TS]

01:12:35   still have a box of magic cards at my [TS]

01:12:37   parents house that they have in a box of [TS]

01:12:39   a bunch of like stuff from when I was a [TS]

01:12:40   kid I expect to love my pokemon cards or [TS]

01:12:43   my grandma's i find it really hard not [TS]

01:12:47   to look through them when I remember [TS]

01:12:49   that they exist like I just pull them [TS]

01:12:50   out and look at them and I guess I [TS]

01:12:52   remember setting up this deck [TS]

01:12:53   I guess this wasn't in this is a really [TS]

01:12:55   fun deco this is the little good [TS]

01:12:56   combination [TS]

01:12:57   it's just a thing that my mind likes to [TS]

01:12:59   turn over and over that you can escape [TS]

01:13:03   some of that stuff now I have a question [TS]

01:13:06   I've been wanting to ask you just [TS]

01:13:09   because it's going to be so difficult to [TS]

01:13:10   ask the question [TS]

01:13:11   oh ok so this comes from Allen and Allen [TS]

01:13:16   says when gray uses this face then [TS]

01:13:19   inserts character [TS]

01:13:21   where does that face come from do you [TS]

01:13:22   have it locally and copy and paste it [TS]

01:13:24   onto google it every time [TS]

01:13:25   now how would you describe the face [TS]

01:13:29   character Allen has used to send it to [TS]

01:13:33   me over I message [TS]

01:13:34   how would you describe this face [TS]

01:13:36   character what is this this is the face [TS]

01:13:39   of disapproval [TS]

01:13:41   uh-huh that's what this faces now it's [TS]

01:13:42   not an emoji write it in a text-based [TS]

01:13:45   it's more I guess it's not an emoji it's [TS]

01:13:48   an old-school emoticon [TS]

01:13:50   yeah back in the day we used to build [TS]

01:13:52   our little facial expressions out of the [TS]

01:13:54   characters that we had available [TS]

01:13:56   you're not that much older than me ice [TS]

01:13:58   to do this we didn't have people just [TS]

01:14:00   drawing emoji for us we had to build [TS]

01:14:03   them with our own hands my autism and [TS]

01:14:04   created the emoticons and of course of [TS]

01:14:08   nature would think oh you're right to [TS]

01:14:10   artisanal now something artisanal we're [TS]

01:14:13   just chilling them out of characters [TS]

01:14:16   what is this physical is it got a name [TS]

01:14:18   that you know I think it's just called [TS]

01:14:20   the disapproving face i'm going to check [TS]

01:14:24   out right now [TS]

01:14:24   so where does it come from for you when [TS]

01:14:26   you use it you have like a text expander [TS]

01:14:27   stupid or something [TS]

01:14:29   it's official name is called the look of [TS]

01:14:32   disapproval em and if it'll be an it'll [TS]

01:14:36   be in the show notes [TS]

01:14:37   anybody who's ever been on read it will [TS]

01:14:38   know exactly what we're talking about [TS]

01:14:40   yes it is this stern-looking emoticon [TS]

01:14:44   face with little horizontal mouth and I [TS]

01:14:47   think they're ty symbols or something [TS]

01:14:48   which are the eyes but that end up just [TS]

01:14:50   looking like eyes that are staring into [TS]

01:14:52   your soul with furrowed brows but I came [TS]

01:14:56   I came across this on reddit you know [TS]

01:14:58   ages and ages ago and i think that it is [TS]

01:15:00   just an absolute perfect emoticon for [TS]

01:15:04   very many situations and so i have it [TS]

01:15:07   set up as one of those at the sinking [TS]

01:15:09   keyboard shortcuts that Apple has yes so [TS]

01:15:13   i can i can whip it out at the [TS]

01:15:16   appropriate moment immediately that sort [TS]

01:15:19   of my type i don't even know I just [TS]

01:15:20   built into my [TS]

01:15:22   now thinking about it don't do it okay [TS]

01:15:27   what am I type I type D is Q and that is [TS]

01:15:31   my little shortcut for disapproval face [TS]

01:15:34   mhm and so the the moment that I need to [TS]

01:15:38   over the internet glare at someone with [TS]

01:15:40   a disapproving face [TS]

01:15:41   I have it right at my fingertips room 33 [TS]

01:15:44   ask are there any side projects that [TS]

01:15:47   gray wishes would have been the big [TS]

01:15:49   things take off instead of YouTube [TS]

01:15:50   that's an interesting question the the [TS]

01:15:53   thing that's that's tricky to answer [TS]

01:15:56   about that is to express appropriately [TS]

01:15:58   my feelings towards all of the projects [TS]

01:16:02   that I worked on and my feelings of them [TS]

01:16:04   is I love them as much as they have been [TS]

01:16:06   successful and so like I really like the [TS]

01:16:11   YouTube project because it has been [TS]

01:16:14   really successful and I'd I don't have a [TS]

01:16:17   feeling toward any of the past projects [TS]

01:16:19   of oh I wish this one had been the one [TS]

01:16:23   to catch on [TS]

01:16:25   it's more feeling like I worked on this [TS]

01:16:27   thing for a while and it didn't really [TS]

01:16:29   go anywhere and then I moved on to the [TS]

01:16:32   next thing and so no I don't I don't [TS]

01:16:37   look backward on it and in that way it [TS]

01:16:41   it [TS]

01:16:44   i I don't know if this is the best [TS]

01:16:46   analogy but i always think of it as like [TS]

01:16:47   placing bets on a table and so this [TS]

01:16:50   question is almost like asking do you [TS]

01:16:53   wish that any of the bets that you had [TS]

01:16:55   previously made had paid off so well I [TS]

01:16:59   think you're thinking about this in the [TS]

01:17:01   wrong way if you know you're placing a [TS]

01:17:03   bunch of bets and you're hoping that [TS]

01:17:05   some of them are successful and then you [TS]

01:17:08   are happy when one of them turns out to [TS]

01:17:10   be successful but you don't you don't [TS]

01:17:13   think about like oh that black 32 six [TS]

01:17:17   weeks ago I really wish that had been [TS]

01:17:18   the one I guess it's much more of a like [TS]

01:17:21   a system than it is a series of events [TS]

01:17:24   that that's kind of where I think about [TS]

01:17:26   it yet because it was always about which [TS]

01:17:28   one will be the one to provide the the [TS]

01:17:31   result you're looking for right which [TS]

01:17:34   was to be able to control my own [TS]

01:17:36   schedule [TS]

01:17:36   well and work on my own right like that [TS]

01:17:38   was the thing that I was aiming for and [TS]

01:17:42   the various projects were different [TS]

01:17:44   attempts to to try and get there like I [TS]

01:17:48   did you know maybe we maybe we can talk [TS]

01:17:49   about it in more detail on some future [TS]

01:17:53   maybe past show I don't know what we [TS]

01:17:55   will have spoken about it but i think [TS]

01:17:59   the the closest thing that it to that is [TS]

01:18:02   a feeling of it was actually frustrating [TS]

01:18:04   more for some of the projects that were [TS]

01:18:07   partially paying off because i feel like [TS]

01:18:10   those were things that sucked up a lot [TS]

01:18:13   of my time because it felt like our man [TS]

01:18:16   if I can make this a little bigger [TS]

01:18:18   this will be great and so in some sense [TS]

01:18:21   i prefer the things that i worked on [TS]

01:18:23   that were immediately obviously terrible [TS]

01:18:26   ideas that just didn't work whereas i [TS]

01:18:29   had for a while there I had a few things [TS]

01:18:31   that I was working on was like I'm [TS]

01:18:32   learning a little bit of money from this [TS]

01:18:34   and I'm running a little bit of money [TS]

01:18:35   from that and I had this is this very [TS]

01:18:37   frustrating feeling of like like can I [TS]

01:18:39   just Kabul this together or can I make [TS]

01:18:40   this twice as big and so those in a [TS]

01:18:44   sense were bets that in a way we're like [TS]

01:18:46   more unsuccessful than my just [TS]

01:18:49   straight-up unsuccessful bets because [TS]

01:18:52   they were not winners and they also took [TS]

01:18:55   up a bunch of my time [TS]

01:18:56   all right Tobias wants to know if we [TS]

01:18:58   make all beds every morning I already [TS]

01:19:01   know from surprising you on facetime [TS]

01:19:04   that one time should have seen this [TS]

01:19:05   coming [TS]

01:19:06   that you do not make your bed every [TS]

01:19:07   morning I don't make my bed everyone [TS]

01:19:09   one of the great pleasures in my life is [TS]

01:19:13   the fact that it doesn't bother my [TS]

01:19:14   girlfriend about if that is made you are [TS]

01:19:18   a lucky man then that never of us seem [TS]

01:19:20   to care about it every now and then [TS]

01:19:22   we'll do it but like hang on a second [TS]

01:19:24   ya know it's an absolute disaster right [TS]

01:19:26   now it's right behind you right now it's [TS]

01:19:30   right behind me right now we're both [TS]

01:19:31   pretty cool about that i think it maybe [TS]

01:19:33   she's I don't know harboring some kind [TS]

01:19:35   of resentment towards me that I'm not [TS]

01:19:37   aware of yet great power point is idea [TS]

01:19:39   it's very possible i think everyone in [TS]

01:19:41   my life has some kind of resentment [TS]

01:19:43   towards me now I've got some data that [TS]

01:19:45   says so right now but no I don't make my [TS]

01:19:50   bed every morning I bet you do [TS]

01:19:54   so you I used to not because I used to [TS]

01:19:59   fall under the category of what is this [TS]

01:20:01   matter i'm just going to mess it up [TS]

01:20:02   later anyway yeah him and I think that [TS]

01:20:05   is there's a totally reasonable position [TS]

01:20:06   my camera i came across it but at some [TS]

01:20:09   point i came across on a podcaster some [TS]

01:20:11   something someone was really selling the [TS]

01:20:13   idea of you need to make your bed every [TS]

01:20:16   morning and I'm always open to trying [TS]

01:20:21   stuff like I can't remember what they [TS]

01:20:23   said but whatever they said it I felt [TS]

01:20:24   like it was convincing and so I went [TS]

01:20:27   through a period where i was going [TS]

01:20:30   through an effort of making sure that [TS]

01:20:31   the bed was made every morning and say [TS]

01:20:34   oh this does seem to have intangible [TS]

01:20:40   benefits that I cannot quite quantify [TS]

01:20:43   that do make making the bed worthwhile [TS]

01:20:48   it's again hard to put into words but it [TS]

01:20:52   feels like it is definitely something [TS]

01:20:54   and so I now do try to make the bed in [TS]

01:20:59   the morning if it is unmade there's a [TS]

01:21:01   there's a little bit of a little bit of [TS]

01:21:02   a thing here with the morning schedule [TS]

01:21:03   that I am usually up and out of the [TS]

01:21:05   house before my wife is even awake and [TS]

01:21:08   then it depends on like she has varying [TS]

01:21:10   schedules about when she needs to be [TS]

01:21:12   someplace in the morning so sometimes [TS]

01:21:13   she makes the bed sometimes she doesn't [TS]

01:21:14   have time and if i come home and i see [TS]

01:21:16   the bed is unmade i will sometimes try [TS]

01:21:18   to make it like what I don't know like [TS]

01:21:20   randomly sometimes the better [TS]

01:21:21   we made it sometimes it will be unmade [TS]

01:21:23   but the thing that my wife has noticed [TS]

01:21:27   is that i am not perfectly consistent [TS]

01:21:29   about making the bed in a way that I [TS]

01:21:31   don't notice but of course she is aware [TS]

01:21:33   and she is able to use the maid miss of [TS]

01:21:38   the bed as a proxy for how on top of his [TS]

01:21:42   life does my husband feel night Mariano [TS]

01:21:45   home line right there my friend that's [TS]

01:21:46   exactly it [TS]

01:21:47   so I don't know maybe maybe [TS]

01:21:50   intentionally she leaves the bed unmade [TS]

01:21:52   sometimes as like a little test to see [TS]

01:21:55   is he feeling really busy and [TS]

01:21:57   overwhelmed right now so overwhelmed [TS]

01:21:58   that he's not going to make the bed or [TS]

01:22:00   is he feeling totally on top of things I [TS]

01:22:02   guess I'll know when I'll come home [TS]

01:22:03   maybe that's what she does [TS]

01:22:04   I don't know gray yeah it's a trap [TS]