Cortex 36: Cortex Cottage


  so every time that we record i have a [TS]

  coffee with me was to help give me the [TS]

  energy that I desperately need to do the [TS]

  show of you who and I wanted to just [TS]

  tell you about the glassware that the [TS]

  method of which I'm drinking this from [TS]

  today because I think you might enjoy it [TS]

  if you become a fancy coffee person is [TS]

  yes sitting here [TS]

  ok so i have an iced coffee today that I [TS]

  made for myself kind of an iced latte [TS]

  style yes very nice and my receptacle is [TS]

  made of glass [TS]

  who and I have cork like a cork grip [TS]

  that goes around the outside of that you [TS]

  know so i can make sure that I don't [TS]

  drop their right and if the the drink [TS]

  inside is hot I'm not touching the hot [TS]

  glass right to protect your delicate [TS]

  little fingers yeah i mean they're the [TS]

  moneymakers right Frank yes of course [TS]

  and i'm not drinking from the glass [TS]

  itself i'm drinking from a straw now but [TS]

  my stories made a stainless steel I [TS]

  think you're beginning to live a very [TS]

  strange lifestyle mike i went to the [TS]

  seaside and we went to an iced coffee [TS]

  place and they serve me a coffee with a [TS]

  stainless steel straw and I thought it [TS]

  was the best thing ever so I went [TS]

  straight to amazon and bought myself a [TS]

  box of 8 are there bends in the [TS]

  stainless steel straw i have for that [TS]

  have ben's in them and for don't have [TS]

  four straight straws and four straws of [TS]

  a slight bend in them [TS]

  I've only encountered one problem with [TS]

  the stainless steel straw hitting my [TS]

  teeth again yeah usually is not a [TS]

  problem with plastic store soon as he [TS]

  said there was one problem yes that is [TS]

  what part of my mind is seems like you [TS]

  can enjoy yourself with this because [TS]

  you're not used two straws being objects [TS]

  of potentially cutting power as well [TS]

  like little thin edge pressed up against [TS]

  you but it's it's making me take more [TS]

  care when drinking my coffee you know [TS]

  which is kinda part of my process now [TS]

  you know that doesn't sound like a good [TS]

  idea [TS]

  you don't know why do you want more [TS]

  effort with your coffee drinking [TS]

  because otherwise it's just not worth it [TS]

  that makes no sense [TS]

  that doesn't make any sense at all I [TS]

  have eight you want one now [TS]

  now I don't do not want one of your [TS]

  stainless steel struts they even come [TS]

  with a little cleaning brush and it in a [TS]

  frame sientes rise a bit if there was [TS]

  any way you could have instantly made [TS]

  that infinitely unappealing that was the [TS]

  thing [TS]

  yeah tell me that the straw requires [TS]

  cleaning this did not this did not cross [TS]

  my mind because it does i'm not like a [TS]

  scrooge mcduck kind of person like I'm [TS]

  not just using him one serving of [TS]

  throwing them away [TS]

  they're not the okay you know the little [TS]

  single use stainless steel straws [TS]

  I'm not crazy i was i was more thinking [TS]

  that maybe they could go in the washing [TS]

  machine in the dishwasher [TS]

  I'm sure that they can I just don't have [TS]

  100k you're one of those i just can't [TS]

  fit one in the house what do you want [TS]

  for me back one of those unfortunate [TS]

  people whose kitchens too small they are [TS]

  out there in gray mansion when my wife [TS]

  and I moved out of our first flat in [TS]

  London together which was literally a [TS]

  single room with bear partitions I [TS]

  remember the door right i remember the [TS]

  door [TS]

  yeah we upgraded to Doors not one of my [TS]

  absolute requirements was now that we [TS]

  have more than like five square meters [TS]

  worth of space between two human beings [TS]

  we absolutely have to have a dishwasher [TS]

  this is this is non-negotiable there's [TS]

  no way this is not going to happen [TS]

  because i just cannot possibly spend any [TS]

  more of my time manually washing dishes [TS]

  like it's the sixteen hundreds of Xena [TS]

  is totally the gray in this situation [TS]

  she is making a very similar demand we [TS]

  got it might talk about this later but [TS]

  we're getting ready to move hopefully [TS]

  our own place and the kitchen doesn't [TS]

  have a dishwasher right now [TS]

  but it has space for it and it has the [TS]

  electricals for it so at some point in [TS]

  the not-too distant future a dishwasher [TS]

  will be joining the household but [TS]

  following if I actually quite like doing [TS]

  the dishes because it's a chore that I [TS]

  can do which add some real value is an [TS]

  incredibly taxing and I can listen to my [TS]

  podcast want to do it but you could do [TS]

  other things you could be driving [TS]

  American Truck Simulator what you're [TS]

  listening to your podcast instead yeah [TS]

  but then I'm not contributing so much to [TS]

  the household but you know what you're [TS]

  not really contributing to the household [TS]

  now write a robot could just do this for [TS]

  you [TS]

  you're just you're just feeling like [TS]

  you're making a contribution here this [TS]

  is leo i enjoy vacuuming by hand what a [TS]

  pleasant experience this is like or you [TS]

  can get a room behind the roomba vacuum [TS]

  for you [TS]

  I think I'm gonna get ya see I really [TS]

  won't want you have one we don't have a [TS]

  roomba in our place but we have someone [TS]

  who vacuums so we should have a human [TS]

  Roomba i get up i was gonna make the [TS]

  joke but I can't make better i love so [TS]

  happy you did but we could go a Huber so [TS]

  listen you have to like this is again no [TS]

  you just wanted to tell like a little [TS]

  funny story about your metal straws that [TS]

  should be clean by hand with a tiny [TS]

  brush but really what you're just [TS]

  telling me is a story about sounds like [TS]

  you don't value your own time very [TS]

  highly that you're sitting around [TS]

  washing dishes by hand when there's a [TS]

  machine that could do it and I am I am [TS]

  totally with adina on this issue there [TS]

  needs to be a dishwasher in your new [TS]

  place in our place there was no [TS]

  dishwasher either and we are renting a [TS]

  place it is it is not ours so any [TS]

  improvements made to the place are just [TS]

  like throwing money down the drain [TS]

  except for the fact that we live there [TS]

  so we actually paid someone to to [TS]

  essentially like take out some of the [TS]

  cabinetry on the bottom of our kitchen [TS]

  put in a dishwasher that doesn't even [TS]

  really fits because our kitchen is [TS]

  really really small when you go to open [TS]

  the dishwasher door [TS]

  it cannot come down all the way because [TS]

  the wall is in the way this is serious [TS]

  dishwasher [TS]

  hey hey of it right it is serious [TS]

  dishwashing hate so since i am like I'm [TS]

  very tall it's very awkward for me to [TS]

  kinda get down on the floor basically [TS]

  only the top rack of the dishwasher is [TS]

  available from my perspective I can't [TS]

  really access the bottom when it's super [TS]

  inconvenient so I just run the [TS]

  dishwasher you know twice as much as I [TS]

  need to because i only use the top rack [TS]

  because that's the only one that I can [TS]

  fully access when the dishwasher door is [TS]

  open but I don't care because I'm not [TS]

  washing the dishes [TS]

  the robots washing the dishes so what [TS]

  does it matter if the robot has to do it [TS]

  twice doesn't matter to make dishwasher [TS]

  you need to have one without a doubt [TS]

  don't spend your time like this Mike [TS]

  hate that you just in our show have [TS]

  moved the priority of the things i need [TS]

  to spend money on what what do you what [TS]

  do you mean I'm trying to help you [TS]

  she's gonna hear this right and then the [TS]

  dishwasher is gonna move higher and the [TS]

  priority order right because it's the [TS]

  correct decision yeah let's just because [TS]

  like I'm not siding with anybody in an [TS]

  argument [TS]

  I'm simply telling you what the better [TS]

  thing to do is you're siding with your [TS]

  robot kinda know you know I'm just I [TS]

  mean look at those more robots maybe [TS]

  that's better for everybody but look [TS]

  it's the right thing to do so you need [TS]

  to get you need to get the dishwasher [TS]

  it's like not having a washing machine [TS]

  for your clothes and spinning me some [TS]

  tale about how you really enjoy racking [TS]

  your underpants over one of those little [TS]

  bumpy things that you see in old movies [TS]

  where people are why don't even know [TS]

  what they're called the washing [TS]

  Bordeaux's Mabel alright ya when ya i [TS]

  dont you mean yeah right you you're [TS]

  there with the barrel and one of those [TS]

  washing boards and scrubbing your [TS]

  clothes over that I'd like if you were [TS]

  spinning me at hello i enjoy listening [TS]

  to podcasts while I do that I mean [TS]

  you're just wrong right you to spending [TS]

  your time poorly if the instead you [TS]

  should be spending your time playing [TS]

  American Truck Simulator listening to [TS]

  podcasts because it's purely enjoyable i [TS]

  found one setback with the straw method [TS]

  here we go [TS]

  ok that's the setback trying to get the [TS]

  coffee out of the bottom of the it's not [TS]

  as easy [TS]

  enjoy your strong like it sounds sounds [TS]

  like an improvement to your life [TS]

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  actually officially over now so like we [TS]

  have this we've had an episode which [TS]

  broke court xmas for the listener [TS]

  mm but now this is cortex mrs. over for [TS]

  us because i heard on the last episode [TS]

  that was an episode out time to out of [TS]

  time and which basically was recorded [TS]

  such a long time ago that neither me or [TS]

  you could remember what we've spoken [TS]

  about yeah it was very strange [TS]

  it was as i predicted the closest i [TS]

  think i will ever get to being able to [TS]

  listen to my own podcast in the way [TS]

  listener does because most of the time [TS]

  when I'm editing podcasts or listening [TS]

  to edits I know what's going to be said [TS]

  like I in my head I know how this [TS]

  conversation unfolds i know what i'm [TS]

  going to say I know what the next person [TS]

  is going to say and that's part of the [TS]

  process of editing thinking about the [TS]

  sentences that are coming up the [TS]

  sentences that just went behind maybe [TS]

  how to rearrange things maybe how to [TS]

  make them a little tighter [TS]

  that's part of the whole thing whereas i [TS]

  was listening to this one when i was [TS]

  doing that the the final listen through [TS]

  I just had no idea what was going to [TS]

  happen [TS]

  everything was a surprise oh ok i have [TS]

  no idea what's coming up this this me [TS]

  from the past [TS]

  it could be me from a hundred years ago [TS]

  and remembered nothing about that [TS]

  podcast and i think it was in actuality [TS]

  three months ago maybe two months ago I [TS]

  don't even know but it was a surreal [TS]

  experience to listen to that the funny [TS]

  thing for me was when listening back and [TS]

  just shaking my head how pass Mike [TS]

  thought his summer was gonna be awesome [TS]

  it was also but not like he's easy and [TS]

  simple as you thought it was going to be [TS]

  a poor guy had no idea [TS]

  yes yes that was there was definitely [TS]

  the case which i think is is always the [TS]

  case with when you try to project [TS]

  forward about what you're going to be [TS]

  doing it is [TS]

  way too easy to underestimate how much [TS]

  stuff you going to do [TS]

  how long things take how much stuff is [TS]

  going to take up your time and again I [TS]

  was just thinking of the past me in that [TS]

  episode and he's talking about how he is [TS]

  going to be going to WWDC with you which [TS]

  at that point was like a little secret [TS]

  yep and it was so funny because you you [TS]

  were really hesitant to admit that to [TS]

  justin area [TS]

  yes whistle in secret-keeping mode there [TS]

  but listening to that i was thinking [TS]

  like oh you many months ago gray you [TS]

  don't know how busy that WWDC week is [TS]

  going to be you just have no idea you're [TS]

  still imagining in your mind that it's [TS]

  going to be a relaxing time with [TS]

  occasional things to do but you don't [TS]

  know you don't know what's going to [TS]

  actually happen but also we were living [TS]

  in a different reality then you know [TS]

  before we experience the second reality [TS]

  of virtual reality lives are very [TS]

  different [TS]

  that's true that is very true that is [TS]

  the pre virtual reality experiencing us [TS]

  that is that big schism in my life now [TS]

  preview our and post vr so yes there it [TS]

  was basically like listening to the [TS]

  tales of a Deadman right like i was so [TS]

  long ago in so many experienced ago you [TS]

  were just like a totally different [TS]

  person [TS]

  one of the things that made me check my [TS]

  head about myself as i was talking about [TS]

  coming out more time you know like have [TS]

  quiet days and busier days you know so i [TS]

  had a busy week in the quiet week but I [TS]

  was talking about how my thursdays and [TS]

  fridays i was trying to keep them as [TS]

  busy as as empty as possible since then [TS]

  I've now filled them up with new [TS]

  projects and i was listening to myself [TS]

  and be like all that was a nice time so [TS]

  you no longer have the the busy week and [TS]

  the not busy week where I'm on the not [TS]

  busy week everybody else is on the busy [TS]

  week [TS]

  everything is just the same I now have a [TS]

  busy weekend a busy week [TS]

  mmm [TS]

  what do you think about that Mike I [TS]

  don't like it I don't think it's a good [TS]

  development now it's a bad development [TS]

  so it was you know how we were also [TS]

  talking in that show about like [TS]

  approaching you know with we might come [TS]

  past the halfway point of the year it's [TS]

  like there's nothing so like I'm I'm [TS]

  inches away from grabbing my iPad and [TS]

  opening notability i genuinely did this [TS]

  yesterday i'm writing out all of my [TS]

  projects and working out where they go [TS]

  next year who you know what things have [TS]

  to be adjusted how they're going to be [TS]

  adjusted and i'm also think I'm thinking [TS]

  about some other stuff like just from a [TS]

  business perspective not just like all [TS]

  the shows that i'm on but what parts of [TS]

  the business to I maybe need to adjust [TS]

  so i can free up time for myself that [TS]

  kind of thing so that that is a finely [TS]

  enough to see in all seriousness 2017 is [TS]

  going to be the year of less common me [TS]

  oh is it i think so mm so let me ask you [TS]

  that some a bit unclear this this [TS]

  situation that you have made for [TS]

  yourself [TS]

  yeah well you have a busy weekend a busy [TS]

  your week is this [TS]

  are you planning on this being a [TS]

  temporary thing until the end of the [TS]

  year and then 2017 will be nothing like [TS]

  this and you'll get back to your busy [TS]

  week and less busy week or or not I [TS]

  don't think I've got the specifics [TS]

  nailed down [TS]

  all i know is i want to change the [TS]

  current situation [TS]

  Lou so I want to get it back closer to [TS]

  busy weekend quiet week who one of the [TS]

  problems is I've started one new weekly [TS]

  show and who it's taking up more of my [TS]

  time but even within that I'm trying to [TS]

  work out ways to limit those types of [TS]

  things and and and maybe look at some of [TS]

  the other stuff that I do and see if [TS]

  there's any adjustments that can be made [TS]

  to the frequencies they're like I did [TS]

  start of this year where I just adjusted [TS]

  the frequencies are some of the shows [TS]

  that i was recording so i need to do [TS]

  that again but maybe maybe I need to be [TS]

  a bit harsher about it and maybe as I [TS]

  selling to look at some things that [TS]

  aren't just recording time who think [TS]

  that our business time or even things [TS]

  that are production maybe i need to [TS]

  change some production processes as well [TS]

  so this is it you know i i'm gonna live [TS]

  with it for now plus it's been a [TS]

  possibly a super busy time for me since [TS]

  june and i think that is adding a lot of [TS]

  weight onto this as well [TS]

  yeah it sounds like it sounds like [TS]

  that's the case you know there's a bunch [TS]

  of stuff going on that we will get to in [TS]

  a little bit but I what I'm just [TS]

  wondering is how did you walk yourself [TS]

  into the busy weekend busier week it was [TS]

  it was it one of these cases where you [TS]

  just keep slowly adding on one project [TS]

  at a time and then when you look in the [TS]

  when you look in their rearview mirror [TS]

  somehow at the end of the summer [TS]

  all of a sudden you're realizing that [TS]

  you have blocked away all of what was [TS]

  previously free time like is that how [TS]

  you got this this situation pretty much [TS]

  and this is it is me is my eternal [TS]

  struggle of being excited about [TS]

  something and just doing it [TS]

  whoo-hoo and and that has added more [TS]

  time and so one of the things that I've [TS]

  done some people may notice about me [TS]

  some may not [TS]

  I am a fan of professional wrestling i [TS]

  have been since I was a kid I i know [TS]

  it's fake [TS]

  you don't need to tell me or as we like [TS]

  to say great predetermined predetermined [TS]

  ok the things that you're seeing are [TS]

  actually happening and some smoke and [TS]

  mirrors but there is an outcome of the [TS]

  end I treat it like my soap opera right [TS]

  that's why I think of it and etcetera [TS]

  like I don't need to get into this right [TS]

  now with you i love how pretty defensive [TS]

  you are about this like i can i can hear [TS]

  you're trying to shut down all the [TS]

  things that people are going to say and [TS]

  my feeling is always there's no [TS]

  explaining what people like or what [TS]

  they're interested in it just is it so [TS]

  Mike likes wrestling deal with it people [TS]

  it's called my podcast is called the [TS]

  ring post a link in the show notes if [TS]

  you're interested go check it out anyway [TS]

  ok bring post on FM if it's your if [TS]

  that's your bag but anyway so i did that [TS]

  no this this is a new weekly show of [TS]

  mine and I've been trying to do some fun [TS]

  things of it and record like multiple [TS]

  times in the week like I can't keep [TS]

  doing that [TS]

  that's one thing and then you know I I'm [TS]

  just that it's been a busy time where [TS]

  we've had the membership stuff looks are [TS]

  facilitating all that recording the [TS]

  extra episode adding the extra episodes [TS]

  no spending 15 hours on our episode you [TS]

  know I've had just some extra stuff [TS]

  going on recently so now as well next [TS]

  year I know that I need to structure [TS]

  that time a bit differently in August [TS]

  them i thought that i was doing a good [TS]

  job pre-recording things early but I [TS]

  need to maybe start recording and even [TS]

  earlier than i thought so it's just I've [TS]

  learned some lessons but there are just [TS]

  some things that I'm adding in which it [TS]

  just too much I've and I've overloaded [TS]

  myself again I think and it's it's super [TS]

  easy to do because this is this is a [TS]

  problem with creative people and again [TS]

  in the broadest possible sense of of [TS]

  making a thing whether that's starting a [TS]

  business writer creating a podcast or [TS]

  whatever if you are making something in [TS]

  the world i think by definition you have [TS]

  to be a person who gets excited and [TS]

  interested in things way more than a [TS]

  normal person does [TS]

  because that that is the thing that [TS]

  motivates you to to start creating a [TS]

  thing that's new and so I think if you [TS]

  are of that bent it is very easy to keep [TS]

  adding on more and more projects because [TS]

  that you get you get excited about [TS]

  things we've spoken about in the past [TS]

  that you have that feeling that you seem [TS]

  to have a better internal barometer of [TS]

  letting them goes so far before you stop [TS]

  how I don't know how you do that like [TS]

  once I have an idea like the idea of [TS]

  having a show about professional [TS]

  wrestling has been something I've wanted [TS]

  to do for a long time and I had to do it [TS]

  who write that there was no question in [TS]

  my mind like I love talking about this [TS]

  thing i want to talk about the single my [TS]

  friends and I want to make a podcast a [TS]

  bit but that's what I've always done all [TS]

  of my shows come from a love of talking [TS]

  about something with the people and and [TS]

  I couldn't not do it but you seem to [TS]

  have some kind of barrier that something [TS]

  has to get four like you can be excited [TS]

  about something but you take it so far [TS]

  and then you stopped and I don't know [TS]

  how you do it well for me it's easier [TS]

  with external projects or things that [TS]

  are new [TS]

  lately we discussed a while back you [TS]

  know I was getting pretty close to doing [TS]

  something like a like a video game [TS]

  review youtube channel and then I shut [TS]

  that down as like now this isn't this [TS]

  isn't going to happen and part of that [TS]

  is is thinking through the you know that [TS]

  the maximum benefit maximum award a [TS]

  project like that but it doesn't mean [TS]

  that like I haven't spent a bunch of [TS]

  time on it and I think with external [TS]

  projects like a new YouTube channel or [TS]

  say doing another podcast or getting [TS]

  involved with businesses right these are [TS]

  all kinds of things that you know [TS]

  sometimes I say yes to these decisions [TS]

  sometimes I say no to these decisions [TS]

  but I try to think about the risk-return [TS]

  reward like what is the best possible [TS]

  way this could go what how much does [TS]

  this look like what it's going to take [TS]

  up with my time so for new stuff i find [TS]

  it relatively easy at some point to sit [TS]

  down and seriously think about it and [TS]

  end to cut stuff but to be perfectly [TS]

  open with you like my version of your [TS]

  podcast stuff is that some mornings when [TS]

  I go into work and I go to right there [TS]

  is something that I am really excited [TS]

  about or something that's really on my [TS]

  mind as a thing that I want to talk [TS]

  about in a video and i'll end up [TS]

  spending and you know an entire morning [TS]

  or maybe two days working on a script [TS]

  that ultimately doesn't go anywhere [TS]

  right but it's like but this this thing [TS]

  has kind of like taken over my mind for [TS]

  a while I'm really thinking about this [TS]

  thing and I end up writing a whole bunch [TS]

  of of stuff that that ultimately goes in [TS]

  nowhere because I eventually decided I [TS]

  don't want to do this video or just it [TS]

  just isn't quite working out but i have [TS]

  no ability to really say no mentally to [TS]

  those kind of things like well you you [TS]

  arrive in the office and whatever it is [TS]

  you want to write about whatever it [TS]

  feels like this is the thing that you're [TS]

  going to write about that's what you're [TS]

  going to write about it you don't really [TS]

  have a choice in it I actually I get [TS]

  that but like my point is like you still [TS]

  are able to stop it right like you don't [TS]

  keep going like [TS]

  because many more could be like artists [TS]

  isn't working i need to start again [TS]

  thank you know to stop [TS]

  yeah I mean I guess it's a kind of a [TS]

  kind of focus on a sunk cost fallacy [TS]

  that you know just always keep in mind [TS]

  that the hours you have put into a thing [TS]

  and the resources that have you you have [TS]

  put into a thing are meaningless the the [TS]

  only thing that matters is thinking [TS]

  about the future hours and resources [TS]

  that you're going to put into a project [TS]

  and what you can expect the return is [TS]

  going to be maybe it's just because I [TS]

  don't really I don't really value my [TS]

  past self very highly and whatever he [TS]

  has been upto or whatever he has done so [TS]

  maybe that's why I find it a little bit [TS]

  easier to let go or projects or to have [TS]

  been writing something for a few days [TS]

  and then to realize that this isn't [TS]

  going to go anywhere just forget it and [TS]

  just just leave it and not and not feel [TS]

  like i am going to spend the next three [TS]

  weeks massaging this into with thing [TS]

  that is ultimately publishable like I'm [TS]

  very happy letting stuff go [TS]

  maybe that's why I don't know another [TS]

  thing I wonder is the difference in our [TS]

  attitudes towards the things that we do [TS]

  slow like I was I started podcast is [TS]

  just a fun thing little my hobby like [TS]

  the thing i love it and i ended up being [TS]

  my business and I don't think you [TS]

  necessarily feel that way about YouTube [TS]

  videos like it was always intended as [TS]

  like a business endeavor first loop so [TS]

  like I have this like once I have an [TS]

  idea for podcasting like I got to do it [TS]

  even when you have an idea for a video [TS]

  like you get so far and it's like this [TS]

  doesn't make business sense anymore em [TS]

  so like it goes back to the original [TS]

  feeling about the thing with me it was [TS]

  like this seems like it's gonna be so [TS]

  much fun i got to do it [TS]

  therefore make any money you're [TS]

  passionate about what you do my do it [TS]

  several fire in my belly [TS]

  it is it is your strength and possibly [TS]

  your ultimate downfall [TS]

  mhm it's you know when you go to a job [TS]

  interview in your strength or weakness [TS]

  this is it for me write my strength is [TS]

  my witness [TS]

  I'm too focused that's my problem i [TS]

  don't know when to stop working [TS]

  I'm too strong of a leader I'm too much [TS]

  of a team player [TS]

  yeah exactly how's your summer been [TS]

  I know you've been on vacation well out [TS]

  by the way i have to mention this and [TS]

  just because it's such a good joke where [TS]

  I called your vacations a great vacation [TS]

  right Lou and you called my name I [TS]

  occasion [TS]

  who y-yes that on the red it said surely [TS]

  you mean a holy day how good is that [TS]

  have that causes me physical pain it's [TS]

  so good [TS]

  that's how we know it's good because it [TS]

  hurts you just don't think I don't think [TS]

  that the barometer by which we measure [TS]

  of things are good because i do not [TS]

  approve of this parameter hydrometer is [TS]

  little good you would without parts of [TS]

  that i don't i don't think i can use [TS]

  early days and i'm not sure i can bring [TS]

  myself to do that we've discussed how my [TS]

  holy day when this how did your [TS]

  gradation go it went well it went well [TS]

  what I had in mind for this hashtag [TS]

  summer of lots of travel and not fun [TS]

  summer you keep changing it did the [TS]

  thing about hashtags and happy the same [TS]

  keep changing it doesn't work anymore [TS]

  now i think its fine there's twitter is [TS]

  really good about that kind of stuff I'm [TS]

  sure that's just the lot of margin or [TS]

  whatever yeah billion surface [TS]

  yeah it's literally perfect my whole [TS]

  frame of reference was last summer [TS]

  not the summer most recently passed with [TS]

  the summer last summer yeah you're ready [TS]

  you really helped narrow that down i'm [TS]

  just i'm aiming for maximum clarity is [TS]

  you're doing a great job [TS]

  it was a disaster that summer that had [TS]

  passed that was not the most recent [TS]

  summer do you mean the one before the [TS]

  one off to the next one [TS]

  no that does not sound right now that [TS]

  was around no that's wrong like you did [TS]

  you not you don't know how to do this [TS]

  following nationals yeah but so that [TS]

  somebody didn't go well because it is a [TS]

  terrible job of manage [TS]

  in work and personal life and a bunch of [TS]

  other things and so my my goal for this [TS]

  summer was it needs to be better needs [TS]

  to be better than last time [TS]

  what's better better is is measured by [TS]

  2i feel worse after having taken had [TS]

  taken a vacation or do I feel better [TS]

  after having taken a vacation and when I [TS]

  came back from vacation two summers ago [TS]

  I ended up coming back feeling frazzled [TS]

  like I did not feel like I what a great [TS]

  break [TS]

  I had this was a fantastic time I ended [TS]

  up feeling like I did everything poorly [TS]

  i did work poorly and I did vacationing [TS]

  poorly and it just it wasn't a great [TS]

  experience and ended up leading into [TS]

  like a grumpy September gray who had [TS]

  returned it just it wasn't it wasn't a [TS]

  good situation [TS]

  so this summer when I mean by better is [TS]

  it's almost measured by a kind of like a [TS]

  like a mindfulness or or a presence in [TS]

  the moment so that the feeling is [TS]

  whatever I'm doing this summer at that [TS]

  moment that should be the thing that's [TS]

  on my mind I shouldn't be also having [TS]

  other stuff in the back of my mind and i [TS]

  would say for the most part I was pretty [TS]

  successful this summer it it fell down a [TS]

  little bit towards the end of august [TS]

  when work life started to intrude again [TS]

  but for the most part i was able to have [TS]

  the feeling of like being a WC i am at [TS]

  WWDC this is really the only thing that [TS]

  I have to think about or that I have to [TS]

  focus on or again for the most part i [TS]

  was at VidCon and it's like this is what [TS]

  I'm focusing on i'm here at VidCon let [TS]

  me do this thing and then later in the [TS]

  summer it's i am with my family and [TS]

  again not entirely but mostly I'm able [TS]

  to focus on this thing right and then [TS]

  there's a family reunion that happens [TS]

  later on it's like am I able to focus on [TS]

  this thing again mostly not entirely [TS]

  this is where work starts to intrude [TS]

  like a little [TS]

  little bit but it's still relatively [TS]

  minor and then and then after that like [TS]

  my wife and I went on our own to las [TS]

  vegas for a bit of downtime it was like [TS]

  yes I'm able to to focus on down time [TS]

  here for the most part where as last [TS]

  year again I just felt like I was trying [TS]

  to do everything at once vastly vastly [TS]

  overestimating how much could possibly [TS]

  be done and this year since I cut down [TS]

  the number of videos that i would [TS]

  theoretically be working on over this [TS]

  course of time and of course I cut down [TS]

  the number of podcast I was doing I was [TS]

  much much more successful in being able [TS]

  to be present in the moment for the [TS]

  things that I was doing instead of [TS]

  always having something running in the [TS]

  back of my mind about like you need to [TS]

  be thinking about the next podcast of [TS]

  what are you going to be talking about [TS]

  and you need to be thinking about the [TS]

  videos that you need to be writing and [TS]

  what it's like what are you going to do [TS]

  about that i was able to mostly kind of [TS]

  calm that and and move that out of my [TS]

  mind for the vast majority of the summer [TS]

  again only falling down slightly towards [TS]

  the end of august but so i would say was [TS]

  mostly success i'm pretty pleased with [TS]

  the way things went [TS]

  yeah it sounds better sounds way better [TS]

  and you were gone for a long time so the [TS]

  fact that you were able to manage that [TS]

  nicely is good [TS]

  yeah it did it did work out i think [TS]

  again what one of these things is really [TS]

  trying to just really trying to know [TS]

  about yourself and to make accurate [TS]

  estimates about yourself and and one of [TS]

  those things that I just couldn't ignore [TS]

  when I was thinking forward to the [TS]

  summer was the sheer number of flights [TS]

  that I was going to be getting on and [TS]

  just recognizing like that kind of stuff [TS]

  is surprisingly draining for me that [TS]

  there's an any day that involves any [TS]

  kind of plane travel i just have to [TS]

  write off the possibility of even doing [TS]

  work because it's just like it's just [TS]

  not going to happen because i know i'm [TS]

  going to be thinking about the flight [TS]

  for the whole time until I get on the [TS]

  plane and then since I'm going to be [TS]

  moving locations like a kind of spend [TS]

  the rest of the day like settling into [TS]

  wherever it is that I am just like you [TS]

  can't possibly do [TS]

  podcasts on any of these days you're [TS]

  never gonna do any kind of quality [TS]

  writing on a day like this so just [TS]

  looking at your calendar there's so many [TS]

  days that you're flying [TS]

  you just have to knock all of those off [TS]

  and then also the thing that I have to [TS]

  recognize is both times I went to [TS]

  America when I was coming back to the EU [TS]

  I would be coming back from my favorite [TS]

  time zone in the world [TS]

  california time which is just horrific [TS]

  for me for jet lag when I come back it [TS]

  always knocks out a real week before I [TS]

  feel like a normal person coming back [TS]

  and again it's like it's it's easy to [TS]

  look at an empty calendar and to be able [TS]

  to overestimate how much it is that [TS]

  you're going to do or to think the days [TS]

  are like normal days but I was really [TS]

  trying to think about that upcoming [TS]

  summer think about things like people [TS]

  that i was going to be interacting with [TS]

  and just accepting and really [TS]

  understanding how much time and focus [TS]

  and energy does this really represent [TS]

  not how much you wanted to represent and [TS]

  try to plan for that and as always with [TS]

  these things even when you think about [TS]

  that there's always going to be more [TS]

  that happens then you expect and you're [TS]

  going to be able to do even less than [TS]

  you think so it's like just trying to [TS]

  just trying to plan for for all of that [TS]

  so no yourself i guess is what I'm [TS]

  trying to say here and i feel like i did [TS]

  a much better job of knowing myself this [TS]

  summer and i think i will will do an [TS]

  even better job of knowing myself next [TS]

  summer about how to how to work and how [TS]

  to not work and how to do great [TS]

  vacations I need to know myself better [TS]

  well you know like i said it's it [TS]

  well here's the problem i know myself [TS]

  and what I ignore what I know [TS]

  well that's that's a whole different [TS]

  situation [TS]

  well I mean if we imagine a mic early as [TS]

  a black box knowing yourself and [TS]

  ignoring what you know about yourself [TS]

  from a black box perspective is [TS]

  functionally equivalent to not knowing [TS]

  about yourself so i don't really give [TS]

  you any credit for that [TS]

  ok I'm sorry Mike I'm looking for credit [TS]

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  laugh and part of the problem I have had [TS]

  this summer [TS]

  who is a huge disruption in my life [TS]

  which is taking place over the last few [TS]

  weeks [TS]

  yes and that is a second job that I've [TS]

  taken on which is trying to buy a house [TS]

  hmm it seems like buying a house i don't [TS]

  know i have this irrational feeling that [TS]

  buying a house should be like buying [TS]

  anything again how hard can it be [TS]

  all i want to do is add house to cart [TS]

  and checkout that's that's exactly right [TS]

  that's what I want to do yeah every once [TS]

  in a while I do look at like property [TS]

  price apps you know to see houses in an [TS]

  area cuz i'm curious about this kind of [TS]

  thing I do feel like all of those real [TS]

  estate afterwards you can browse through [TS]

  the houses and you're like oh here's [TS]

  here's the house think they should have [TS]

  a little ad house to cart at the bottom [TS]

  i guess i would like to buy this house [TS]

  can we just can we just do this can I [TS]

  just press a button and like mortgage [TS]

  approved it all just it all just goes [TS]

  through but now it sounds like from your [TS]

  experience that is not nearly [TS]

  it's not really that simple no it's a [TS]

  nightmare I can't imagine doing this on [TS]

  my own like a manatee not buying this [TS]

  house together is the only things able [TS]

  to keep me sane because she is a very [TS]

  detail-oriented person and is reading [TS]

  all the paperwork on spending time on it [TS]

  like things that I don't want to do but [TS]

  while she's doing a lot of that stuff [TS]

  there's just more that's happening in [TS]

  your life and it really does feel like [TS]

  having another job because it's adding [TS]

  stress man it's like a new job it's like [TS]

  when you start a job because of [TS]

  everything you're learning is completely [TS]

  new who and then you're dealing with a [TS]

  ton of paperwork right so it feels like [TS]

  when it starts it's a new job then it [TS]

  starts to feel like a job that you're [TS]

  settled in with because you then have to [TS]

  start chasing people [TS]

  the thing that you need and this happens [TS]

  by email and it happens by phone you [TS]

  start getting a bunch of emails that you [TS]

  don't want and the problem that I have [TS]

  found is you have this new job that you [TS]

  have to pay a lot of attention to and it [TS]

  takes up a lot of your time but you [TS]

  still doing the job that you have [TS]

  already as well so I'm working two jobs [TS]

  right now so this is part of the [TS]

  background radiation behind you the busy [TS]

  week and the busier week is also [TS]

  essentially you feel like you have a [TS]

  whole other job you're trying to find [TS]

  and buy house [TS]

  yeah it's it's a real big thing and [TS]

  something that's making it a little bit [TS]

  harder for us there are a bunch of [TS]

  circumstances around the house that [TS]

  we're buying which means that we from [TS]

  putting in the offer have one month 28 [TS]

  days to buy the house who this process [TS]

  usually takes 12 weeks three moves to do [TS]

  and we have to compress it to one month [TS]

  so it has been fast paced and action [TS]

  packed exciting i'm sure it is exciting [TS]

  it is [TS]

  it's also terrifying it's terrifying [TS]

  when you are self-employed who to think [TS]

  about owning a home you know that is a [TS]

  scary thing to think about and it's [TS]

  something that I am coming to terms we [TS]

  have been trying to come to terms with [TS]

  and I'm sure it's gonna take a little [TS]

  while [TS]

  why do you think it's particularly scary [TS]

  when you're self-employed like what is [TS]

  what is the thing that keeps me up at [TS]

  night it's on you the money that you [TS]

  make is on you who now there is as much [TS]

  risk of me getting fired from a job as [TS]

  series from my business fall into pieces [TS]

  right in fact if anything I would say [TS]

  it's less likely for my business to fall [TS]

  to pieces because if something is going [TS]

  wrong by and large I can know about it [TS]

  maybe try and fix it right [TS]

  blue and if something's going wrong in [TS]

  the company here employed by [TS]

  most of the time you can't do anything [TS]

  about it right it's not even in your [TS]

  view that there's a problem even if [TS]

  there was you probably couldn't be to [TS]

  want to fix it right right companies go [TS]

  bust it happens and then if you want one [TS]

  of those companies then you're in [TS]

  trouble so in that sense like okay I [TS]

  maybe I have a little bit more security [TS]

  in a weird way [TS]

  however the money that comes through the [TS]

  company of the money that comes to me [TS]

  i'm responsible for making a lot of it [TS]

  who you know that running you're running [TS]

  this company i am responsible for the [TS]

  directions that goes in and that is [TS]

  scary when you then have to couple on a [TS]

  financial commitment and our home and i [TS]

  mortgaged it payment that you have to me [TS]

  every month right and having people rely [TS]

  on you to bring that money in so you can [TS]

  continue living in the house right that [TS]

  is a very very different feeling it is a [TS]

  feeling I didn't expect this quite close [TS]

  to what it was like when I originally [TS]

  quit my job [TS]

  who because it is the dish it just got [TS]

  real feeling and it's all on you now [TS]

  buddy [TS]

  yeah that's how it feels i can i can [TS]

  definitely sympathize with that like I [TS]

  don't even know if I'm how much more [TS]

  busy i really am [TS]

  Lou but everything feels more busy so [TS]

  I've noticed the think this week where I [TS]

  felt that this week that i have been [TS]

  jam-packed and my calendar says so that [TS]

  I've had lots of stuff on my task [TS]

  manager says I have lots of stuff on [TS]

  however this week every day I've got my [TS]

  task manager 20 which is not something [TS]

  that usually happens who usually has a [TS]

  couple of things left i moved to the [TS]

  next day by being clearing my tasks more [TS]

  and I don't fully understand what's [TS]

  going on here [TS]

  Eva I am overworking because i feel like [TS]

  i'm busy blue or more correctly planning [TS]

  things or this is just like a freaking [TS]

  aging I don't know what is the cause and [TS]

  effect is here but all I know is I feel [TS]

  like I'm busier and I'm doing more stuff [TS]

  it's very strange and i don't actually [TS]

  think that those two things are [TS]

  connected in a weird way like I feel [TS]

  busier and then more work it's not that [TS]

  I'm doing more work and then feeling [TS]

  busier you think the busyness is causing [TS]

  you to do more where I think maybe which [TS]

  is very strange [TS]

  I don't understand how things work in [TS]

  your mind no I think it's like the [TS]

  stress of knowing there's so much stuff [TS]

  on its been pushing me to work longer [TS]

  hours i think that might be what's going [TS]

  on here [TS]

  right because things are real you have a [TS]

  deadline with this house [TS]

  yep it has to get done and it's all on [TS]

  you [TS]

  so somebody has to stay up and do all [TS]

  these things because maybe like that the [TS]

  fact i have this insane deadline of a [TS]

  house is making every deadline feel [TS]

  tough back right it's like deadlines [TS]

  means something [TS]

  yeah this is this is actually a deadline [TS]

  means something [TS]

  yes I do i do find that one of the [TS]

  things that you learn in life is many [TS]

  deadlines they're not really deadlines [TS]

  this is actually very few things that [TS]

  are real deadline so things have to [TS]

  happen by a certain date many deadlines [TS]

  have a kind of squishiness to them but [TS]

  it seems like this house deadline is a [TS]

  real deadline like if you don't hit this [TS]

  you lose this house and then maybe you [TS]

  start all over and that's not something [TS]

  that you want to do now you have to [TS]

  start all over is one of the worst are [TS]

  all of those you can be at right like he [TS]

  lost the house go back to jail do not [TS]

  pass go do not collect 200 pounds it's [TS]

  really stressful man i'm very sorry but [TS]

  it's stressful for you I think I'll give [TS]

  a little background but I've never [TS]

  rented a place you know so like there's [TS]

  a lot of new things here for me even [TS]

  just like going to look at somewhere and [TS]

  I i live at home right now [TS]

  and I will be moving straight into her [TS]

  house that I own them so there's so many [TS]

  new things happening right now like I've [TS]

  never well I move once in my life you [TS]

  know and I wasn't controlling the move [TS]

  my parents did that so oh you mean move [TS]

  once just as as a human being ever [TS]

  yeah from born until now until this [TS]

  moment yeah what never moved while [TS]

  technically it's twice but i don't [TS]

  remember the first one right look at but [TS]

  you know we moved to the place that [TS]

  we're now about 11 years ago who but I i [TS]

  wasn't in control of any of that [TS]

  everything was just done around me but [TS]

  like this is like everything [TS]

  everything's on on me on us and it's [TS]

  just a really strange thing and it is [TS]

  playing into a problem that i have of a [TS]

  feeling of busyness stressing me out [TS]

  you know when I spoke about on the show [TS]

  in the past where like I feel like I'm [TS]

  busy and I'm like get super stressed out [TS]

  about it want to sit down and work out [TS]

  why actually have it becomes a lot more [TS]

  manageable i think a lot of people like [TS]

  to sit down and write a list of stuff [TS]

  you've got it feels better but this time [TS]

  i actually can't do that because I can't [TS]

  write out the house buying process [TS]

  because every day new things are [TS]

  happening that I cannot foresee so when [TS]

  i do when i put on my to-do list by [TS]

  house I have no idea what that means [TS]

  right until the moment that it's done [TS]

  yeah this feels like one of those [TS]

  moments where you know that someone's [TS]

  going to chime in like oh you just crank [TS]

  they're getting things done methodology [TS]

  right you just think well what's the [TS]

  next physical action i have to take it [TS]

  like you know what for some big projects [TS]

  especially projects where there's just a [TS]

  huge cloud of unknowing ability around [TS]

  them it it's not that simple [TS]

  notebook right like you this is the [TS]

  problem of unknown unknowns that you [TS]

  don't know what you don't know yet and [TS]

  and that makes that makes estimation and [TS]

  difficulty level just meaningless just [TS]

  thrown out the window you have no [TS]

  ability to know how hard this is going [TS]

  to be or how long it's going to take or [TS]

  what needs to happen because you don't [TS]

  know the step that you don't know [TS]

  because you've never bought a house [TS]

  before I have a great example of this [TS]

  Lou this week we knew that we were [TS]

  expecting information from our solicitor [TS]

  little lawyer and we call it was him and [TS]

  this was going to be a bunch of [TS]

  information about the property contracts [TS]

  and stuff like that what we need to look [TS]

  over so we were expecting these [TS]

  documents to come through they said 50 [TS]

  documents right so I knew this paperwork [TS]

  was coming through didn't expect 50 [TS]

  documents that we have to read [TS]

  uh-huh did you read the mic i didn't [TS]

  know this happens when you say that we [TS]

  had to read all I have a stack to read [TS]

  it's just not the full stack ok they [TS]

  have been vetted now I have been giving [TS]

  me this is the thing you have to read [TS]

  this read it [TS]

  that's what i've been told i'm very [TS]

  grateful for this but it's like even the [TS]

  amount that i have to read is more than [TS]

  I thought you know like I have like [TS]

  maybe like 15 things 15 document have to [TS]

  read [TS]

  I thought we were gonna get like five [TS]

  who writes this is like you cannot plan [TS]

  for this but then even in the back of my [TS]

  mind I know I'm not reading on that [TS]

  stuff but it's there in my head right as [TS]

  this thing that is there that needs to [TS]

  be done [TS]

  I like that you just admitted on the [TS]

  show that you have been handed a [TS]

  pre-screen like please read these things [TS]

  all I'm so long list of things but [TS]

  you're still not even gonna read the [TS]

  thing is I I did it [TS]

  this is the thing that was on me does [TS]

  not all those documents we read i would [TS]

  have read an amount of them because i [TS]

  couldn't find the time for like I will [TS]

  within the deadlines that have been set [TS]

  for us there's no way that I would be [TS]

  able to do that land it's because dinner [TS]

  is amazing and she will stay up to a [TS]

  very late doing it like I just can't [TS]

  bring myself to do that again it adds [TS]

  into the business feeling right well [TS]

  like my brain I'm doing right now my [TS]

  brain is saying you can't there's no way [TS]

  you can do this right yes this is the [TS]

  thing that there is something eating [TS]

  away at your mind even if you're not [TS]

  actually doing it yep it's still [TS]

  consuming some part of your brain that [TS]

  worries about it and contribute to the [TS]

  feeling of business if this whole thing [TS]

  is just crazy [TS]

  but the next episode we may own this [TS]

  house which is amazing i'm gonna have an [TS]

  office gray who you're gonna have an [TS]

  actual dedicated podcasting office mega [TS]

  office is what it's called mega offer [TS]

  yeah i've given it the name mega office [TS]

  i have a Pinterest board setup called [TS]

  mega office now or I'm adding things in [TS]

  i'm looking at ikea catalogs who I'm [TS]

  looking at smart home devices and very [TS]

  accept it [TS]

  that's what I'm excited about I'm [TS]

  excited about mega office that is [TS]

  exciting that's the reason that you're [TS]

  doing this right to get a place that you [TS]

  can make your own space [TS]

  this is one of the key reasons yeah [TS]

  we're getting a two-bedroom place and [TS]

  when i'm going to finally have an office [TS]

  to work in and we're going to be in the [TS]

  inner rim [TS]

  oh wow you're really upgrading your life [TS]

  there's a coffee shop I can walk to the [TS]

  potential because another coffee with [TS]

  later we went to view the house again [TS]

  yesterday and I had amazing french toast [TS]

  at this place [TS]

  there is a gym in our building gray [TS]

  oh that's nice where we are moving into [TS]

  civilization that's what we're doing [TS]

  here [TS]

  that's very exciting we will be able to [TS]

  jump on a train and be in central London [TS]

  in 15 minutes you can fantasize about [TS]

  how productive you're going to be in [TS]

  this new environment it's gonna be [TS]

  amazing [TS]

  I gonna do four times the shows and I'm [TS]

  gonna be a bodybuilder is gonna be [TS]

  brilliant [TS]

  i can'twe well it seems like a very good [TS]

  reason to buy a house that [TS]

  yep i mean that in all seriousness like [TS]

  it's going to make big changes to our [TS]

  lives in good and bad ways right but i [TS]

  think the net result i'm very positive [TS]

  that the net result of this is going to [TS]

  be all upside well you know like we're [TS]

  going to have our own space [TS]

  we're going to be happy in it we're [TS]

  going to be back in in London again my [TS]

  clothes into London we actually go do [TS]

  things i think it's going to make a lot [TS]

  of positive effects on our life because [TS]

  if it's going to add some stuff too [TS]

  it's gonna add I feel like a super adult [TS]

  back [TS]

  this is something something a friend [TS]

  mentioned this to me the other day the [TS]

  term super adult and that is how this [TS]

  feels like everything's got an [TS]

  incredible [TS]

  we got engaged in between the time of [TS]

  recorded TV shows as well right [TS]

  oh yeah so even mention that on the show [TS]

  and all we did [TS]

  no I asked the DNA to marry me and [TS]

  foolishly enough she said yes so like [TS]

  him doing everything like [TS]

  congratulations to the two you but this [TS]

  is what you mean by super adults that [TS]

  you are engaged you're going to be a [TS]

  married man you're going to have a [TS]

  mortgage [TS]

  I guess you need you need like a car [TS]

  payment next we're thinking about [TS]

  getting a call yeah haha that will also [TS]

  mean I have to get driving license first [TS]

  because i don't have one because I'm [TS]

  alumna right right [TS]

  why would you need a driver's license is [TS]

  not exactly have no need for it but we [TS]

  get a parking space [TS]

  so now we're thinking about que la now [TS]

  see that's a terrible reason to get a [TS]

  car is because you have a part not [TS]

  immediately [TS]

  first we can bring out the parking space [TS]

  yeah rented out thats exactly hit your [TS]

  parking space in London it's like owning [TS]

  a goldmine get that out so through that [TS]

  but we are thinking about like [TS]

  eventually getting a car you know like [TS]

  where we're moving head on into adult [TS]

  life here [TS]

  wow how do you feel about that Mike does [TS]

  it feel like mortality crushing down [TS]

  upon you or you mostly excited I'm [TS]

  mostly excited [TS]

  good I'm glad you are I haven't had the [TS]

  mortality feeling yet just you wait [TS]

  oh yeah those documents right it's not [TS]

  coming my way lots of life insurance [TS]

  paperwork stuff you know who that [TS]

  mortality is going to be outlined to me [TS]

  and black-and-white excellent excellent [TS]

  there's a lot going on right now and I'm [TS]

  hoping that once i get through this [TS]

  probably year-long process i'll be back [TS]

  to wear to a better feeling against it [TS]

  like my feeling right now in my brain is [TS]

  like you are feeling really stressed [TS]

  right now you have a lot of things going [TS]

  on you have new projects and stuff that [TS]

  you're working on but in 2017 who you [TS]

  hopefully we'll have got through a lot [TS]

  of this so then you can start to relax [TS]

  and then you gotta plan a wedding [TS]

  congratulations [TS]

  right yeah you'll be don't worry you'll [TS]

  be through this in a short for months [TS]

  that's the that's what you're planning [TS]

  on here that at least the buying of the [TS]

  house will be done [TS]

  yeah we will be moved in and I have mega [TS]

  office so what can go wrong what can go [TS]

  wrong when I could visit you there [TS]

  it'll be fun yep i feel like the lesson [TS]

  for the listener is to not do what Mike [TS]

  is done [TS]

  yeah take this as a warning yeah if [TS]

  you're going to buy a house or do some [TS]

  other equivalently large unknowable [TS]

  project don't also take on a bunch of [TS]

  other new projects right before you do [TS]

  this [TS]

  that's it that's a bad idea you should [TS]

  do the ante my clan and try to pare down [TS]

  everything to the bare minimum if you're [TS]

  taking on a big project like this [TS]

  because it's going to be a second job [TS]

  don't do what Mike did cut everything to [TS]

  the bone then embarked on a big project [TS]

  like getting a house I feel like being [TS]

  self-employed this is the key problem [TS]

  here because at least i know in my old [TS]

  day job I could have just walked less [TS]

  right like look just like i like how you [TS]

  said that like yeah you know I should [TS]

  have just looked busy for awhile and at [TS]

  but also be working on the house after [TS]

  my work day [TS]

  yep because i was running and starting a [TS]

  business whilst i was in my workday but [TS]

  I can't really do that now because the [TS]

  output is directly responsible for me as [TS]

  the owner of the business and as a [TS]

  contributor to the business right [TS]

  so with the self-employed stuff it's [TS]

  like if I don't do the work I don't get [TS]

  paid but it's when I was in my old job i [TS]

  could do less work but still got same [TS]

  amount of money every month because I [TS]

  could hide it so i think it's it died [TS]

  for me I feel like at least my own [TS]

  experience this put this house buying [TS]

  stuff is harder on me because of my [TS]

  working situation because if I would've [TS]

  still been at the bank [TS]

  I could have carved out sometime in my [TS]

  day [TS]

  to do and think about this stuff more so [TS]

  than what I can currently do [TS]

  yeah i agree with that I was just trying [TS]

  to find but i'm i'm not going to be able [TS]

  to remember it now maybe i'll see if i [TS]

  can find it for the show notes but I [TS]

  read a book a long time ago which was [TS]

  essentially about office culture it was [TS]

  particularly in the United Kingdom but [TS]

  they were doing studies of essentially [TS]

  watching office monkeys all day and [TS]

  trying to figure out how much are they [TS]

  actually doing and the main thesis of [TS]

  the book was that an enormous number of [TS]

  white-collar employees are vastly [TS]

  underemployed that the the joke in in [TS]

  office space where someone comes in and [TS]

  he's like I actually probably do about [TS]

  20 minutes of real intense work in a day [TS]

  is like for lots of jobs like that's not [TS]

  necessarily that far off [TS]

  so this is the difference with being [TS]

  self-employed versus having a job where [TS]

  what you were saying before about the [TS]

  the relative security of either [TS]

  yeah I do i do think you may have a very [TS]

  good point that being self employed in a [TS]

  bizarre way is actually more of a secure [TS]

  job but the the advantage that an office [TS]

  job has is that kind of coasting what [TS]

  you can do is the thing I can do that I [TS]

  can do the coasting right or like you [TS]

  know i i'm not saying it but you know [TS]

  you just a ton of time off right which [TS]

  is the equivalent of all the coasting [TS]

  right you took all the coasting that you [TS]

  live in here and you put it in one block [TS]

  you know and I could do that you could [TS]

  do that like the business will continue [TS]

  to run I could just stop things now for [TS]

  all we stopped cortex for a bit right [TS]

  well I made us money with that but [TS]

  that's exactly it it's like when you're [TS]

  self-employed I i can put i can put a [TS]

  very exact number [TS]

  unlike the opportunity cost of this [TS]

  summer yep and that that's a thing that [TS]

  you just can't escape from and when [TS]

  you're coasting in an office job that [TS]

  salary still keeps coming in and you [TS]

  can kind of you can feel better about it [TS]

  when you're focusing on some other [TS]

  project for some other length of time [TS]

  like I had a busy I'd love to travel [TS]

  this summer as well so i was happy for [TS]

  court xmas right for that like made it [TS]

  easier because I put a lot of work into [TS]

  this show we both do and it's probably [TS]

  the show that i put the most time into [TS]

  because of the way that we plan and the [TS]

  way that we added and that kind of stuff [TS]

  but I needed starting right now I'm at [TS]

  the point now where like show needs to [TS]

  come back because buying a house key [TS]

  card cortexes can't last forever [TS]

  Mikey's gonna get paid for [TS]

  so this is the house that cortex built [TS]

  this is what I'm hearing right because [TS]

  we can't we can't keep canceling the [TS]

  show we can't keep taking off forever [TS]

  yet where we're actually naming it [TS]

  cortex cottage so fantastic I hope to [TS]

  see that above the door when I come and [TS]

  visit of course cortex college a million [TS]

  people wrote in to tell us that [TS]

  Microsoft have launched an Evernote [TS]

  importing tool [TS]

  yes yes so this is at all written by [TS]

  Microsoft to look at your Evernote [TS]

  database i guess and imported i'm [TS]

  guessing cleanly ish into OneNote and [TS]

  I'm wondering if you have tried this at [TS]

  all [TS]

  no i haven't tried this and I i received [TS]

  what what seemed like all of the [TS]

  messages in the world from people [TS]

  letting me know about this imp [TS]

  letting me know about this imp [TS]

  order which may just seem like want one [TS]

  of these prime examples of I don't think [TS]

  you understand what my problem is [TS]

  and while yes i did complain about the [TS]

  lack of an importer i think i also made [TS]

  it pretty clear on the show that I tried [TS]

  very hard to make microsoft onenote work [TS]

  for me but its fundamental structure of [TS]

  notebooks with tabs is unworkable for [TS]

  the way that I want to use it it's just [TS]

  too clumsy I i tried it as like it is [TS]

  not designed for hierarchies in the way [TS]

  that i need ABI so I'm very very glad [TS]

  for lots of people that the OneNote [TS]

  importer exists on the mac very happy [TS]

  for everybody but it is it is of no use [TS]

  to me what was what was much more useful [TS]

  was the feedback that people sent with [TS]

  regards to evernote about tags which we [TS]

  touched on briefly last time that there [TS]

  are different ways to think about [TS]

  organizing your data and Evernote with [TS]

  tags as opposed to using notebooks which [TS]

  is what i did and at this point i have [TS]

  spent a pretty considerable amount of [TS]

  time reworking my Evernote system from [TS]

  notebooks two tags in a way that [TS]

  Evernote was clearly i don't want to say [TS]

  grumpy with but like boy has Evernote [TS]

  spent a lot of time syncing between all [TS]

  of my device it's going through all of [TS]

  these changes but so yes this is this is [TS]

  what I have mostly moved toward at this [TS]

  point I think I'm about 80% done i'm [TS]

  going to guess with trying to convert [TS]

  everything into tags and it's workable [TS]

  as is as is always the frustration like [TS]

  I find Evernote is is just really clunky [TS]

  on iOS so I have essentially had to do [TS]

  all of this on my computer and and i'm [TS]

  just using Evernote on iOS to save [TS]

  things but I can't really organize [TS]

  things on an iOS with tags but like you [TS]

  know what [TS]

  this is one of these cases where I'm [TS]

  have to weigh the pros and cons of [TS]

  trying to move to a disk different [TS]

  system what those systems have how did [TS]

  they work versus sticking with the way [TS]

  Evernote is and like making it worth [TS]

  with work with tags and so my conclusion [TS]

  is at least from from playing around [TS]

  with it for a while is that like yes the [TS]

  tag solution is workable non-ideal in [TS]

  very many ways but it is workable and [TS]

  far less of a time investment than other [TS]

  things would would be so even though I'm [TS]

  gave that huge rant about Evernote and [TS]

  even though i am still concerned deeply [TS]

  about the future of the company this is [TS]

  this is one of these cases where I'm [TS]

  going to be sticking with it i'm going [TS]

  to use tags and you know if the day [TS]

  comes when Evernote gets shut down or [TS]

  acquired which is often the same thing [TS]

  in the software world like that'sthat's [TS]

  future Gray's problem that is not [TS]

  current great problem he can deal with [TS]

  that [TS]

  exactly i'm sure that guy has lots of [TS]

  time on his hands he can fix it [TS]

  well he's got nothing plan right now [TS]

  exactly calendar is clear in with the [TS]

  only 19 when with the facebook buys [TS]

  Evernote I had spoken about my system [TS]

  you know if not being basically just [TS]

  about the holiday planning for me right [TS]

  now i have taken some trips I wasn't [TS]

  using Evernote at all who and I have [TS]

  been completely happy with saving pdfs [TS]

  to apple notes and writing out some [TS]

  information about my trips into notes I [TS]

  found it to be a great system very happy [TS]

  of with it so I'm moving away from [TS]

  haven't completely so you are probably [TS]

  one of the throngs of customers who has [TS]

  decided that the alternatives are [TS]

  cheaper and adequate compared to [TS]

  evernote exactly [TS]

  exactly give me great confidence in the [TS]

  future of the company [TS]

  yeah I'm sorry about that there was this [TS]

  article that got sent to us about the [TS]

  fact that kind of stabilizing as a [TS]

  company like they did this big I think [TS]

  in the wall street journal finder for [TS]

  the show notes but it seems like [TS]

  Evernote making money again and they've [TS]

  stripped down and they've gotten rid of [TS]

  a lot of those crazy benefits that we [TS]

  spoken about the man they seem like [TS]

  they're getting a bit [TS]

  they seem very confident in the common [TS]

  in the future of the company i remain [TS]

  unconfident the food but I'm happy that [TS]

  they're confident [TS]

  yeah I mean I make jokes blade a [TS]

  genuinely hope that Evernote does well [TS]

  because you're still using me to exist [TS]

  because i'm still here regularly exactly [TS]

  because this particular rad has not has [TS]

  no exit from this particular ship its I [TS]

  really love this chip is doing about we [TS]

  spoken in the past about the strange [TS]

  ways in which things can happen you know [TS]

  you spoke about this in the past about [TS]

  videos like you have an idea for a video [TS]

  and you see in other places [TS]

  Lou something weird happened with [TS]

  YouTube life the YouTube simulated game [TS]

  with the one we talked about on the [TS]

  episode out of time to a timer and we [TS]

  spoke about two things we spoke about [TS]

  YouTube life and we'll talk about [TS]

  PewDiePie's video about YouTube life me [TS]

  youtube simulation game [TS]

  PewDiePie has announced that he is [TS]

  making his own YouTube simulation game [TS]

  and he announced this about two days [TS]

  after we published the episode which to [TS]

  make it even funnier was recorded months [TS]

  ago [TS]

  that's what i like the most about this [TS]

  is we release the episode a couple of [TS]

  late has happened it was like are you [TS]

  two spoke about this but we recorded the [TS]

  show in June writes very weird but yeah [TS]

  PewDiePie is making his own game is [TS]

  called tuba simulator i'm very excited [TS]

  to play this because I bet is gonna be [TS]

  hilarious [TS]

  yeah right we spoke about this but not [TS]

  this at all [TS]

  we were talking about a different [TS]

  youtube simulate [TS]

  they're not pewdiepie simulator yep yeah [TS]

  it's it's just it's a funny thing I [TS]

  think he's I think he's put out some [TS]

  other game before if I'm if I'm not yeah [TS]

  you can get a an iOS game called legend [TS]

  of the brofist ok pictures like an [TS]

  action-adventure side-scrolling game [TS]

  yeah I thought I will be curious to see [TS]

  what he puts out with this and I don't [TS]

  know why but I just I just have a [TS]

  feeling like it might be ridiculous and [TS]

  fun i i'm i'm basing this on nothing i [TS]

  have no experience with this but it i [TS]

  can totally imagine that after putting [TS]

  together that first video that he did [TS]

  what he was talking about YouTube [TS]

  simulator which I still think is a [TS]

  magnificent strange meta video [TS]

  yep i can just imagine that this got [TS]

  under his skin like I can see how this [TS]

  would happen where he would keep [TS]

  thinking about like how would i make a [TS]

  youtube simulator and also he would do [TS]

  any kind of return on investment [TS]

  calculations like pewdiepie making a [TS]

  YouTube simulator game that the gold [TS]

  mine is no way if he puts effort into it [TS]

  like that does not incredibly successful [TS]

  so it would I can just see how it it [TS]

  would be a thing that would be stuck in [TS]

  his mind as an obvious project to do so [TS]

  i'm going to be very curious to see what [TS]

  this is when it comes out also like this [TS]

  is not important and not really news but [TS]

  since we talked about that and I watched [TS]

  that video I've been watching quite a [TS]

  lot of people by videos that was one [TS]

  thing that stuck out to me when I listen [TS]

  to the episode out of time to our timer [TS]

  was referenced in there not really [TS]

  watching very much PewDiePie and since [TS]

  since watching that YouTube simulator 1 [TS]

  i've ended up watching more and more of [TS]

  his video [TS]

  well I bet that what happened to you is [TS]

  what happened to me is nothing getting [TS]

  suggested to me exactly i watched a [TS]

  couple of them and then I decided to [TS]

  type of PewDiePie video I like the type [TS]

  that I don't like who [TS]

  and then I just started cherry picking [TS]

  them out but I've been watching more and [TS]

  more like [TS]

  couple weeks at least he post like [TS]

  everyday basically yeah this is this is [TS]

  the power of the YouTube algorithm in [TS]

  action is like he wants one cutie pie [TS]

  video we're going to pick the most [TS]

  probable ones that you will probably [TS]

  like yeah that's the weird thing is [TS]

  everyone is suggested i love to but then [TS]

  when i started watching them all I [TS]

  didn't like them all so much the [TS]

  algorithm knows better than I do what I [TS]

  want to watch and what I have learned is [TS]

  I don't really have any interest in [TS]

  watching his videos that are about video [TS]

  games or him doing video game [TS]

  playthroughs and I never realized that [TS]

  he does a bunch of videos that our blog [TS]

  like yeah I like stuff about his life [TS]

  yeah i think those are those are really [TS]

  well done those are interesting and it [TS]

  just confirms to me what I always [TS]

  suspect because PewDiePie ends up being [TS]

  like the butt of jokes because he is the [TS]

  number one youtuber but even even back [TS]

  when I didn't watch him very much [TS]

  I thought like well but you don't get to [TS]

  be the number one person without being [TS]

  good at what you're doing [TS]

  even if it's not a thing that everybody [TS]

  likes and and I feel like just doubly [TS]

  confirmed in this of yes of course the [TS]

  person who is the number one youtuber is [TS]

  good at creating engaging content like [TS]

  an EMP cuts together [TS]

  vlogs and talking about his life or or [TS]

  what's going on with him in a very funny [TS]

  when he's he's very good at it [TS]

  I mean he had this whole drama with [TS]

  trying to get his diamond play button [TS]

  that remember the videos that got me [TS]

  sucked in [TS]

  yeah and that those videos are hilarious [TS]

  you need to put them in the show notes [TS]

  Mike but of him like arguing with you [TS]

  too many he's like bragging about all of [TS]

  his subscribers in this very funny way I [TS]

  he's he is just capable of producing [TS]

  captivating video even if you don't want [TS]

  to watch everything that he does and i [TS]

  can see why lots of people wouldn't like [TS]

  him but you don't get to be the number [TS]

  one person just randomly and lots of [TS]

  people always make jokes like oh he's [TS]

  just an idiot who's making videos about [TS]

  video games and just like dumb luck his [TS]

  weight [TS]

  number one like I think that's what lots [TS]

  of people on the outside seem to think [TS]

  it's like that that's not how this stuff [TS]

  actually works on the inside like of [TS]

  course he's talented he has to be missed [TS]

  it's got the conversation is kind of [TS]

  ridiculous in the way to like two old [TS]

  men discover PewDiePie like this it's [TS]

  kind of ridiculous but i will say [TS]

  another video of his that I really [TS]

  really loved was when he did a video [TS]

  about when there was that youtube bug or [TS]

  something that was clearing out [TS]

  subscribers [TS]

  no yeah it looks like 27,000 he was [TS]

  going crazy and like demanding his [TS]

  subscribers back from YouTube it was a [TS]

  brilliant if you don't [TS]

  in case you don't know this like you [TS]

  might not know but PewDiePie has 47 [TS]

  million 625,000 subscribers so that's [TS]

  why 27,000 going missing is really funny [TS]

  exactly because he got really upset [TS]

  about it in the video right its end up [TS]

  his stuff is is weird in places but [TS]

  there is a lot to be enjoyed in there [TS]

  that you know what I think he knows this [TS]

  right i mean again obviously he does [TS]

  super-smart make different kinds of [TS]

  videos to different people [TS]

  mmm yeah it's really interesting model I [TS]

  I i see a lot of channels that try to do [TS]

  a bunch of different videos and I think [TS]

  that they often don't work but it seems [TS]

  like he's able to pull it off really [TS]

  well to have very different styles of [TS]

  videos and to have the mix together on [TS]

  his channel in in a in a seamless kind [TS]

  of way words and and maybe this is again [TS]

  the strength of the YouTube algorithm [TS]

  that the YouTube algorithm seems to know [TS]

  that I'm not super interested in [TS]

  watching him play video games and [TS]

  doesn't seem to suggest those videos to [TS]

  me very much and mostly suggest more [TS]

  vlog like videos to me this guy [TS]

  PewDiePie's you've got really good [TS]

  youtube video should go check them out [TS]

  the sense of cortex love very exactly [TS]

  help give this guy a good kick start [TS]

  yeah this is this is the part where like [TS]

  slowly and awkwardly spell out his name [TS]

  for people [TS]

  that's the reason he ewd IE p IE [TS]

  PewDiePie go check amount [TS]

  yeah kids really talented yep gonna get [TS]

  going to go places this [TS]

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  let's do a cat x square section we have [TS]

  a carrot a question now it's care tex [TS]

  isn't that what I said now you say / k [TS]

  at the end [TS]

  yeah caretech no that's cool attack as [TS]

  the other one is that the other one [TS]

  that's that's the technology one [TS]

  yeah care tax is the caring one yeah [TS]

  caretech no let's do it ok up i think [TS]

  actually use it should we get people to [TS]

  send them with the hashtag care tax [TS]

  now my cute now now don't do this Mike [TS]

  guy trying to get this too complicated i [TS]

  try to make this way too complicated [TS]

  let's just do court hashtag has cortex [TS]

  for a second i totally forgot about it [TS]

  it's haha i'm just a bit rusty [TS]

  yeah it's been awhile you can remember [TS]

  all the names you give like court xmas [TS]

  anything else and it all goes out the [TS]

  window [TS]

  Evercore is my favorite elephant but [TS]

  call wrote in with his hashtag care text [TS]

  question no I shouldn't do that however [TS]

  tell now I can amass the people up i [TS]

  read it wrong call wrote in and said i'm [TS]

  currently working on some side projects [TS]

  but i'm not making any money from them i [TS]

  just graduated from college but my [TS]

  degree doesn't relate to what I'm doing [TS]

  with my side stuff [TS]

  should I go and get a high-paying job [TS]

  that relates to my degree then quit when [TS]

  I able to make money from my side [TS]

  projects or should I just get a simple [TS]

  job at McDonald's to get me through and [TS]

  work on my side stuff who is very [TS]

  interesting question we is the answer is [TS]

  kind of unclear so to kind of boil this [TS]

  down to the essence right call has a [TS]

  thing that he likes to do that thing has [TS]

  nothing at all to do with the degree [TS]

  that you spent years get that degree can [TS]

  get a good job who but it's not what he [TS]

  wants to do what he wants to do is what [TS]

  you doing on the side so do you ever get [TS]

  a high-paying job which probably also [TS]

  means high stress and time job or get a [TS]

  simple job so you haven't got anything [TS]

  to worry about and intricate work on [TS]

  your side stuff that's how I look at [TS]

  this question because there's some [TS]

  trade-offs here you know your stress and [TS]

  time and money they're big factors in [TS]

  these two and deciding where you want to [TS]

  sit on either side of those problems [TS]

  yeah what are you going to do while [TS]

  you're supporting yourself working on [TS]

  your side projects [TS]

  now I actually one point sort of face [TS]

  this question not in quite the same way [TS]

  but we mentioned a couple shows ago [TS]

  about how I was a teacher and then took [TS]

  a break for a while I was trying to get [TS]

  side stuff spun up it didn't work out [TS]

  the first time and then I had to go back [TS]

  to teaching but it at that point my wife [TS]

  and I did have a few discussions about [TS]

  essential essentially this like you have [TS]

  no money we need some money but Dewey [TS]

  like should I just get a simple job or [TS]

  should i go back into teaching like [TS]

  which way should I go about it and I [TS]

  went back into teaching and i feel like [TS]

  my gut response as always a little bit [TS]

  tricky when you don't know the exact [TS]

  details like what is the college degree [TS]

  what are the side projects but my gut [TS]

  feeling is I would say go for the high [TS]

  paying job that relates to the degree [TS]

  and I have a couple reasons for this [TS]

  the first is I think it's probably easy [TS]

  to underestimate how taxing like a [TS]

  simple job would be i think it's it's [TS]

  easy to think like oh it's it's a thing [TS]

  that's not necessarily going to take a [TS]

  lot of my mental time but i think i [TS]

  think any job is going to be big blocks [TS]

  out of your life [TS]

  yeah but if you're walking in a [TS]

  high-stress job you're probably taking [TS]

  work home with you in your brain [TS]

  Lou if you're working in mcdonalds I [TS]

  don't know if you do that yet that is [TS]

  that is definitely the advantage of [TS]

  mcdonalds there might still be things [TS]

  that play on your mind right like [TS]

  company politics are still there but I [TS]

  don't think you're going home and [TS]

  worrying about the deadline on the [TS]

  project [TS]

  yeah that is without a doubt true that [TS]

  the the advantage of a simple job is [TS]

  that you leave this simple job at work [TS]

  and everyone I know who has worked those [TS]

  kind of jobs has said that [TS]

  it is the best part you work as a [TS]

  barista at starbucks and when you come [TS]

  home [TS]

  that's it it's just over you don't have [TS]

  to keep thinking about it and your time [TS]

  is probably fixed as well you don't stay [TS]

  late to get the project done so much and [TS]

  i think yet you don't [TS]

  that is also true that is also true the [TS]

  other thing though [TS]

  again this is it's not a simple thing to [TS]

  decide between but my feeling about the [TS]

  high-paying job is I feel like there are [TS]

  more potential advantages there [TS]

  one of one of which is possible you can [TS]

  save more money so that you can leave it [TS]

  with a bit of buffer sooner if one of [TS]

  the project seems like it's paying off [TS]

  one of your side projects [TS]

  the other thing is i also just without [TS]

  knowing the details of the job i just i [TS]

  think that there is the possibility that [TS]

  a more complicated job of picking up [TS]

  skills that might be useful in the [TS]

  future whereas a simple job that is [TS]

  probably not going to happen so I don't [TS]

  know my my gut feeling would be take the [TS]

  high-paying job and I would do side [TS]

  projects in the morning with the best [TS]

  part of your brain and then go to that [TS]

  job that's what I would think but it [TS]

  feels like Mike you're on the other side [TS]

  of this I feel like I definitely was [TS]

  until you mentioned the skills part [TS]

  that's a really good point i hadn't [TS]

  properly considered because when i think [TS]

  about my abilities to talk to in deal [TS]

  with businesses now that came from [TS]

  working in a corporation my wouldn't [TS]

  know that language to use the [TS]

  terminology to use or know any of that [TS]

  stuff I could stab at it [TS]

  the reason that i could probably live in [TS]

  a corporation was because I had had a [TS]

  good handle on just communicate with [TS]

  people anyway but it's more forgivable [TS]

  if I get something wrong once in a [TS]

  company because I might just upset [TS]

  someone but whatever but if i upset [TS]

  someone will do something wrong in the [TS]

  business then that person might never [TS]

  working again [TS]

  exactly there are worse consequences and [TS]

  exactly and and this is a skill that at [TS]

  least in my observation of your working [TS]

  life is an incredibly valuable skill [TS]

  that you have you know that that even [TS]

  though the listeners here the public [TS]

  side of you which is on the podcast like [TS]

  an enormous amount of stuff is behind [TS]

  the scenes stuff working with sponsors [TS]

  working with companies and you do have [TS]

  you do have these skills of talking to [TS]

  companies that to me seemed like magic [TS]

  incantations the g you know the words to [TS]

  say to make things easier for the person [TS]

  on the other end or to help get stuff [TS]

  done and that's an example of a skill [TS]

  that you learned on the job and so I [TS]

  mean look at the other the other flip [TS]

  side of this that is the unpleasant [TS]

  thing to think about is also the [TS]

  possibility of failure right side [TS]

  projects might never go anywhere if you [TS]

  have a bunch of side projects you're [TS]

  increasing your odds of success but you [TS]

  can just be unlucky and have a string of [TS]

  side projects and none of them ever pans [TS]

  out all the ones you're working on right [TS]

  now one work that's something later that [TS]

  will but you'll be more tomorrow eyes [TS]

  when you feel like you wasted your time [TS]

  of a simple job that's a possibility as [TS]

  well so I I view the like risk/reward [TS]

  balance here that the high-paying job [TS]

  related to the degree is the way that I [TS]

  would go you can possibly Marshall more [TS]

  resources save more money as you're [TS]

  going along in the high-paying job it is [TS]

  more probable that you will learn skills [TS]

  that might be useful later on or that [TS]

  you'll simply in the process of doing [TS]

  that [TS]

  come across something and actually [TS]

  thinking about this just like you know [TS]

  you you had the skill of talking with [TS]

  businesses i think when i was working as [TS]

  a teacher like I definitely refined my [TS]

  ability of the [TS]

  explaining thing oh yeah that's why you [TS]

  can't change people think that's that's [TS]

  a thing that I got better at by doing [TS]

  that and if I had taken a job as a [TS]

  barista for those last two years when I [TS]

  was doing side project that eventually [TS]

  turned into youtube like I'm not sure [TS]

  would have been the same effect you [TS]

  might make some really good coffee [TS]

  videos though I might have made some [TS]

  really good coffee videos this is true [TS]

  there is one thing about the money [TS]

  though who the more money you make from [TS]

  your job the more money you have to make [TS]

  from the side project this is the this [TS]

  is the main downside is not only that [TS]

  but there's a certain amount of i'm [TS]

  going to say possibility of complacency [TS]

  yep with the high-paying job that you're [TS]

  right you your side projects have to be [TS]

  more successful before you feel like [TS]

  you're going to want to leave them [TS]

  because we're again getting into loss [TS]

  aversion territory here that if you have [TS]

  a good salary and you have a side [TS]

  project that starts making money you're [TS]

  going to be hesitant to give up that [TS]

  good salary to dedicate more time to the [TS]

  side project and as a person who is [TS]

  clearly very motivated who a simple job [TS]

  my drive me crazy [TS]

  it is also very possible that you will [TS]

  go crazy in a simple job call i don't [TS]

  think we have a good answer for you [TS]

  I think I do have a good answer and that [TS]

  answer is to take the high-paying job I [TS]

  think risk rewarding it thinking about [TS]

  it thinking about the possible outcomes [TS]

  I feel very strongly that my advice is [TS]

  the high-paying job well refinance a [TS]

  clear i don't think the answer is clear [TS]

  I think there's a lot of caveats think [TS]

  I'm think I'm leaning towards the only [TS]

  thing i know right which is I didn't [TS]

  have a very high paying job that is [TS]

  professional position it was a [TS]

  high-stress job who there are a lot of [TS]

  problems of that you need to go into [TS]

  this job if you take it [TS]

  setting some boundaries for yourself [TS]

  about how long you're willing to work [TS]

  out how much you're going to let it [TS]

  affect your life and you need to try and [TS]

  keep those things in clear mind and also [TS]

  if you're starting the job save [TS]

  immediately cut down the amount of money [TS]

  that you're living on immediately put [TS]

  that like work out the minimum amount [TS]

  and live to that I think both me and [TS]

  great didn't do this and it made it [TS]

  harder for us but if you're starting [TS]

  from step 0 from college money who live [TS]

  frugally you can save money so you'll be [TS]

  able to support yourself later and then [TS]

  you won't need to make as much money [TS]

  from the side roles i give this advice [TS]

  to anyone who is in college right now [TS]

  getting ready to take their first job [TS]

  but they have this thing that they want [TS]

  to do save money save it [TS]

  yes and and keep living cheaply [TS]

  yeah it's like you are more used to that [TS]

  and it is it is easier to just continue [TS]

  definitely definitely do that [TS]

  good luck all good luck all take the [TS]

  bank job but again [TS]