Cortex 36: Cortex Cottage


00:00:00   so every time that we record i have a [TS]

00:00:02   coffee with me was to help give me the [TS]

00:00:04   energy that I desperately need to do the [TS]

00:00:06   show of you who and I wanted to just [TS]

00:00:09   tell you about the glassware that the [TS]

00:00:12   method of which I'm drinking this from [TS]

00:00:14   today because I think you might enjoy it [TS]

00:00:15   if you become a fancy coffee person is [TS]

00:00:18   yes sitting here [TS]

00:00:19   ok so i have an iced coffee today that I [TS]

00:00:22   made for myself kind of an iced latte [TS]

00:00:24   style yes very nice and my receptacle is [TS]

00:00:27   made of glass [TS]

00:00:29   who and I have cork like a cork grip [TS]

00:00:33   that goes around the outside of that you [TS]

00:00:36   know so i can make sure that I don't [TS]

00:00:38   drop their right and if the the drink [TS]

00:00:41   inside is hot I'm not touching the hot [TS]

00:00:43   glass right to protect your delicate [TS]

00:00:45   little fingers yeah i mean they're the [TS]

00:00:48   moneymakers right Frank yes of course [TS]

00:00:50   and i'm not drinking from the glass [TS]

00:00:54   itself i'm drinking from a straw now but [TS]

00:00:59   my stories made a stainless steel I [TS]

00:01:03   think you're beginning to live a very [TS]

00:01:04   strange lifestyle mike i went to the [TS]

00:01:06   seaside and we went to an iced coffee [TS]

00:01:07   place and they serve me a coffee with a [TS]

00:01:11   stainless steel straw and I thought it [TS]

00:01:13   was the best thing ever so I went [TS]

00:01:14   straight to amazon and bought myself a [TS]

00:01:16   box of 8 are there bends in the [TS]

00:01:19   stainless steel straw i have for that [TS]

00:01:21   have ben's in them and for don't have [TS]

00:01:24   four straight straws and four straws of [TS]

00:01:26   a slight bend in them [TS]

00:01:28   I've only encountered one problem with [TS]

00:01:32   the stainless steel straw hitting my [TS]

00:01:35   teeth again yeah usually is not a [TS]

00:01:39   problem with plastic store soon as he [TS]

00:01:43   said there was one problem yes that is [TS]

00:01:45   what part of my mind is seems like you [TS]

00:01:48   can enjoy yourself with this because [TS]

00:01:49   you're not used two straws being objects [TS]

00:01:52   of potentially cutting power as well [TS]

00:01:55   like little thin edge pressed up against [TS]

00:01:59   you but it's it's making me take more [TS]

00:02:02   care when drinking my coffee you know [TS]

00:02:03   which is kinda part of my process now [TS]

00:02:05   you know that doesn't sound like a good [TS]

00:02:07   idea [TS]

00:02:08   you don't know why do you want more [TS]

00:02:09   effort with your coffee drinking [TS]

00:02:12   because otherwise it's just not worth it [TS]

00:02:14   that makes no sense [TS]

00:02:16   that doesn't make any sense at all I [TS]

00:02:18   have eight you want one now [TS]

00:02:21   now I don't do not want one of your [TS]

00:02:23   stainless steel struts they even come [TS]

00:02:24   with a little cleaning brush and it in a [TS]

00:02:26   frame sientes rise a bit if there was [TS]

00:02:33   any way you could have instantly made [TS]

00:02:35   that infinitely unappealing that was the [TS]

00:02:38   thing [TS]

00:02:39   yeah tell me that the straw requires [TS]

00:02:41   cleaning this did not this did not cross [TS]

00:02:44   my mind because it does i'm not like a [TS]

00:02:46   scrooge mcduck kind of person like I'm [TS]

00:02:48   not just using him one serving of [TS]

00:02:50   throwing them away [TS]

00:02:51   they're not the okay you know the little [TS]

00:02:54   single use stainless steel straws [TS]

00:02:57   I'm not crazy i was i was more thinking [TS]

00:03:00   that maybe they could go in the washing [TS]

00:03:01   machine in the dishwasher [TS]

00:03:03   I'm sure that they can I just don't have [TS]

00:03:04   100k you're one of those i just can't [TS]

00:03:09   fit one in the house what do you want [TS]

00:03:10   for me back one of those unfortunate [TS]

00:03:15   people whose kitchens too small they are [TS]

00:03:17   out there in gray mansion when my wife [TS]

00:03:20   and I moved out of our first flat in [TS]

00:03:24   London together which was literally a [TS]

00:03:27   single room with bear partitions I [TS]

00:03:30   remember the door right i remember the [TS]

00:03:32   door [TS]

00:03:32   yeah we upgraded to Doors not one of my [TS]

00:03:36   absolute requirements was now that we [TS]

00:03:40   have more than like five square meters [TS]

00:03:44   worth of space between two human beings [TS]

00:03:45   we absolutely have to have a dishwasher [TS]

00:03:49   this is this is non-negotiable there's [TS]

00:03:52   no way this is not going to happen [TS]

00:03:54   because i just cannot possibly spend any [TS]

00:03:59   more of my time manually washing dishes [TS]

00:04:01   like it's the sixteen hundreds of Xena [TS]

00:04:05   is totally the gray in this situation [TS]

00:04:07   she is making a very similar demand we [TS]

00:04:10   got it might talk about this later but [TS]

00:04:12   we're getting ready to move hopefully [TS]

00:04:13   our own place and the kitchen doesn't [TS]

00:04:15   have a dishwasher right now [TS]

00:04:17   but it has space for it and it has the [TS]

00:04:19   electricals for it so at some point in [TS]

00:04:23   the not-too distant future a dishwasher [TS]

00:04:24   will be joining the household but [TS]

00:04:27   following if I actually quite like doing [TS]

00:04:28   the dishes because it's a chore that I [TS]

00:04:31   can do which add some real value is an [TS]

00:04:33   incredibly taxing and I can listen to my [TS]

00:04:36   podcast want to do it but you could do [TS]

00:04:39   other things you could be driving [TS]

00:04:40   American Truck Simulator what you're [TS]

00:04:42   listening to your podcast instead yeah [TS]

00:04:43   but then I'm not contributing so much to [TS]

00:04:45   the household but you know what you're [TS]

00:04:47   not really contributing to the household [TS]

00:04:49   now write a robot could just do this for [TS]

00:04:51   you [TS]

00:04:51   you're just you're just feeling like [TS]

00:04:53   you're making a contribution here this [TS]

00:04:56   is leo i enjoy vacuuming by hand what a [TS]

00:04:59   pleasant experience this is like or you [TS]

00:05:00   can get a room behind the roomba vacuum [TS]

00:05:02   for you [TS]

00:05:03   I think I'm gonna get ya see I really [TS]

00:05:05   won't want you have one we don't have a [TS]

00:05:07   roomba in our place but we have someone [TS]

00:05:10   who vacuums so we should have a human [TS]

00:05:13   Roomba i get up i was gonna make the [TS]

00:05:19   joke but I can't make better i love so [TS]

00:05:22   happy you did but we could go a Huber so [TS]

00:05:32   listen you have to like this is again no [TS]

00:05:35   you just wanted to tell like a little [TS]

00:05:36   funny story about your metal straws that [TS]

00:05:38   should be clean by hand with a tiny [TS]

00:05:40   brush but really what you're just [TS]

00:05:41   telling me is a story about sounds like [TS]

00:05:44   you don't value your own time very [TS]

00:05:47   highly that you're sitting around [TS]

00:05:48   washing dishes by hand when there's a [TS]

00:05:51   machine that could do it and I am I am [TS]

00:05:53   totally with adina on this issue there [TS]

00:05:56   needs to be a dishwasher in your new [TS]

00:05:58   place in our place there was no [TS]

00:06:00   dishwasher either and we are renting a [TS]

00:06:03   place it is it is not ours so any [TS]

00:06:05   improvements made to the place are just [TS]

00:06:08   like throwing money down the drain [TS]

00:06:10   except for the fact that we live there [TS]

00:06:11   so we actually paid someone to to [TS]

00:06:14   essentially like take out some of the [TS]

00:06:15   cabinetry on the bottom of our kitchen [TS]

00:06:17   put in a dishwasher that doesn't even [TS]

00:06:20   really fits because our kitchen is [TS]

00:06:22   really really small when you go to open [TS]

00:06:24   the dishwasher door [TS]

00:06:26   it cannot come down all the way because [TS]

00:06:28   the wall is in the way this is serious [TS]

00:06:30   dishwasher [TS]

00:06:31   hey hey of it right it is serious [TS]

00:06:33   dishwashing hate so since i am like I'm [TS]

00:06:36   very tall it's very awkward for me to [TS]

00:06:38   kinda get down on the floor basically [TS]

00:06:40   only the top rack of the dishwasher is [TS]

00:06:43   available from my perspective I can't [TS]

00:06:45   really access the bottom when it's super [TS]

00:06:46   inconvenient so I just run the [TS]

00:06:48   dishwasher you know twice as much as I [TS]

00:06:50   need to because i only use the top rack [TS]

00:06:52   because that's the only one that I can [TS]

00:06:53   fully access when the dishwasher door is [TS]

00:06:55   open but I don't care because I'm not [TS]

00:06:58   washing the dishes [TS]

00:06:59   the robots washing the dishes so what [TS]

00:07:00   does it matter if the robot has to do it [TS]

00:07:02   twice doesn't matter to make dishwasher [TS]

00:07:04   you need to have one without a doubt [TS]

00:07:07   don't spend your time like this Mike [TS]

00:07:08   hate that you just in our show have [TS]

00:07:11   moved the priority of the things i need [TS]

00:07:14   to spend money on what what do you what [TS]

00:07:16   do you mean I'm trying to help you [TS]

00:07:17   she's gonna hear this right and then the [TS]

00:07:21   dishwasher is gonna move higher and the [TS]

00:07:23   priority order right because it's the [TS]

00:07:25   correct decision yeah let's just because [TS]

00:07:27   like I'm not siding with anybody in an [TS]

00:07:29   argument [TS]

00:07:30   I'm simply telling you what the better [TS]

00:07:32   thing to do is you're siding with your [TS]

00:07:34   robot kinda know you know I'm just I [TS]

00:07:36   mean look at those more robots maybe [TS]

00:07:38   that's better for everybody but look [TS]

00:07:40   it's the right thing to do so you need [TS]

00:07:42   to get you need to get the dishwasher [TS]

00:07:44   it's like not having a washing machine [TS]

00:07:45   for your clothes and spinning me some [TS]

00:07:47   tale about how you really enjoy racking [TS]

00:07:50   your underpants over one of those little [TS]

00:07:52   bumpy things that you see in old movies [TS]

00:07:54   where people are why don't even know [TS]

00:07:55   what they're called the washing [TS]

00:07:56   Bordeaux's Mabel alright ya when ya i [TS]

00:07:59   dont you mean yeah right you you're [TS]

00:08:01   there with the barrel and one of those [TS]

00:08:04   washing boards and scrubbing your [TS]

00:08:05   clothes over that I'd like if you were [TS]

00:08:06   spinning me at hello i enjoy listening [TS]

00:08:08   to podcasts while I do that I mean [TS]

00:08:10   you're just wrong right you to spending [TS]

00:08:11   your time poorly if the instead you [TS]

00:08:14   should be spending your time playing [TS]

00:08:15   American Truck Simulator listening to [TS]

00:08:17   podcasts because it's purely enjoyable i [TS]

00:08:19   found one setback with the straw method [TS]

00:08:22   here we go [TS]

00:08:23   ok that's the setback trying to get the [TS]

00:08:27   coffee out of the bottom of the it's not [TS]

00:08:30   as easy [TS]

00:08:31   enjoy your strong like it sounds sounds [TS]

00:08:34   like an improvement to your life [TS]

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00:10:44   a better way to cook court xmas is [TS]

00:10:46   actually officially over now so like we [TS]

00:10:50   have this we've had an episode which [TS]

00:10:52   broke court xmas for the listener [TS]

00:10:55   mm but now this is cortex mrs. over for [TS]

00:10:58   us because i heard on the last episode [TS]

00:11:00   that was an episode out time to out of [TS]

00:11:04   time and which basically was recorded [TS]

00:11:08   such a long time ago that neither me or [TS]

00:11:12   you could remember what we've spoken [TS]

00:11:15   about yeah it was very strange [TS]

00:11:18   it was as i predicted the closest i [TS]

00:11:21   think i will ever get to being able to [TS]

00:11:24   listen to my own podcast in the way [TS]

00:11:29   listener does because most of the time [TS]

00:11:31   when I'm editing podcasts or listening [TS]

00:11:34   to edits I know what's going to be said [TS]

00:11:36   like I in my head I know how this [TS]

00:11:39   conversation unfolds i know what i'm [TS]

00:11:41   going to say I know what the next person [TS]

00:11:43   is going to say and that's part of the [TS]

00:11:45   process of editing thinking about the [TS]

00:11:47   sentences that are coming up the [TS]

00:11:48   sentences that just went behind maybe [TS]

00:11:50   how to rearrange things maybe how to [TS]

00:11:52   make them a little tighter [TS]

00:11:53   that's part of the whole thing whereas i [TS]

00:11:55   was listening to this one when i was [TS]

00:11:57   doing that the the final listen through [TS]

00:11:59   I just had no idea what was going to [TS]

00:12:01   happen [TS]

00:12:01   everything was a surprise oh ok i have [TS]

00:12:05   no idea what's coming up this this me [TS]

00:12:08   from the past [TS]

00:12:09   it could be me from a hundred years ago [TS]

00:12:11   and remembered nothing about that [TS]

00:12:14   podcast and i think it was in actuality [TS]

00:12:17   three months ago maybe two months ago I [TS]

00:12:19   don't even know but it was a surreal [TS]

00:12:22   experience to listen to that the funny [TS]

00:12:25   thing for me was when listening back and [TS]

00:12:27   just shaking my head how pass Mike [TS]

00:12:29   thought his summer was gonna be awesome [TS]

00:12:31   it was also but not like he's easy and [TS]

00:12:34   simple as you thought it was going to be [TS]

00:12:35   a poor guy had no idea [TS]

00:12:39   yes yes that was there was definitely [TS]

00:12:43   the case which i think is is always the [TS]

00:12:47   case with when you try to project [TS]

00:12:50   forward about what you're going to be [TS]

00:12:53   doing it is [TS]

00:12:55   way too easy to underestimate how much [TS]

00:12:59   stuff you going to do [TS]

00:13:01   how long things take how much stuff is [TS]

00:13:03   going to take up your time and again I [TS]

00:13:08   was just thinking of the past me in that [TS]

00:13:11   episode and he's talking about how he is [TS]

00:13:14   going to be going to WWDC with you which [TS]

00:13:17   at that point was like a little secret [TS]

00:13:19   yep and it was so funny because you you [TS]

00:13:20   were really hesitant to admit that to [TS]

00:13:22   justin area [TS]

00:13:23   yes whistle in secret-keeping mode there [TS]

00:13:27   but listening to that i was thinking [TS]

00:13:29   like oh you many months ago gray you [TS]

00:13:33   don't know how busy that WWDC week is [TS]

00:13:36   going to be you just have no idea you're [TS]

00:13:39   still imagining in your mind that it's [TS]

00:13:41   going to be a relaxing time with [TS]

00:13:44   occasional things to do but you don't [TS]

00:13:45   know you don't know what's going to [TS]

00:13:47   actually happen but also we were living [TS]

00:13:50   in a different reality then you know [TS]

00:13:53   before we experience the second reality [TS]

00:13:55   of virtual reality lives are very [TS]

00:13:57   different [TS]

00:13:58   that's true that is very true that is [TS]

00:13:59   the pre virtual reality experiencing us [TS]

00:14:02   that is that big schism in my life now [TS]

00:14:04   preview our and post vr so yes there it [TS]

00:14:09   was basically like listening to the [TS]

00:14:10   tales of a Deadman right like i was so [TS]

00:14:12   long ago in so many experienced ago you [TS]

00:14:15   were just like a totally different [TS]

00:14:16   person [TS]

00:14:17   one of the things that made me check my [TS]

00:14:19   head about myself as i was talking about [TS]

00:14:21   coming out more time you know like have [TS]

00:14:24   quiet days and busier days you know so i [TS]

00:14:26   had a busy week in the quiet week but I [TS]

00:14:28   was talking about how my thursdays and [TS]

00:14:31   fridays i was trying to keep them as [TS]

00:14:34   busy as as empty as possible since then [TS]

00:14:36   I've now filled them up with new [TS]

00:14:37   projects and i was listening to myself [TS]

00:14:40   and be like all that was a nice time so [TS]

00:14:44   you no longer have the the busy week and [TS]

00:14:47   the not busy week where I'm on the not [TS]

00:14:49   busy week everybody else is on the busy [TS]

00:14:51   week [TS]

00:14:51   everything is just the same I now have a [TS]

00:14:53   busy weekend a busy week [TS]

00:14:54   mmm [TS]

00:14:55   what do you think about that Mike I [TS]

00:14:58   don't like it I don't think it's a good [TS]

00:15:00   development now it's a bad development [TS]

00:15:02   so it was you know how we were also [TS]

00:15:05   talking in that show about like [TS]

00:15:06   approaching you know with we might come [TS]

00:15:09   past the halfway point of the year it's [TS]

00:15:11   like there's nothing so like I'm I'm [TS]

00:15:13   inches away from grabbing my iPad and [TS]

00:15:16   opening notability i genuinely did this [TS]

00:15:18   yesterday i'm writing out all of my [TS]

00:15:20   projects and working out where they go [TS]

00:15:22   next year who you know what things have [TS]

00:15:24   to be adjusted how they're going to be [TS]

00:15:26   adjusted and i'm also think I'm thinking [TS]

00:15:29   about some other stuff like just from a [TS]

00:15:30   business perspective not just like all [TS]

00:15:33   the shows that i'm on but what parts of [TS]

00:15:35   the business to I maybe need to adjust [TS]

00:15:37   so i can free up time for myself that [TS]

00:15:39   kind of thing so that that is a finely [TS]

00:15:42   enough to see in all seriousness 2017 is [TS]

00:15:46   going to be the year of less common me [TS]

00:15:48   oh is it i think so mm so let me ask you [TS]

00:15:53   that some a bit unclear this this [TS]

00:15:54   situation that you have made for [TS]

00:15:56   yourself [TS]

00:15:57   yeah well you have a busy weekend a busy [TS]

00:15:58   your week is this [TS]

00:16:00   are you planning on this being a [TS]

00:16:02   temporary thing until the end of the [TS]

00:16:04   year and then 2017 will be nothing like [TS]

00:16:06   this and you'll get back to your busy [TS]

00:16:09   week and less busy week or or not I [TS]

00:16:12   don't think I've got the specifics [TS]

00:16:14   nailed down [TS]

00:16:15   all i know is i want to change the [TS]

00:16:18   current situation [TS]

00:16:19   Lou so I want to get it back closer to [TS]

00:16:22   busy weekend quiet week who one of the [TS]

00:16:26   problems is I've started one new weekly [TS]

00:16:28   show and who it's taking up more of my [TS]

00:16:30   time but even within that I'm trying to [TS]

00:16:32   work out ways to limit those types of [TS]

00:16:34   things and and and maybe look at some of [TS]

00:16:37   the other stuff that I do and see if [TS]

00:16:39   there's any adjustments that can be made [TS]

00:16:41   to the frequencies they're like I did [TS]

00:16:44   start of this year where I just adjusted [TS]

00:16:46   the frequencies are some of the shows [TS]

00:16:47   that i was recording so i need to do [TS]

00:16:49   that again but maybe maybe I need to be [TS]

00:16:52   a bit harsher about it and maybe as I [TS]

00:16:55   selling to look at some things that [TS]

00:16:56   aren't just recording time who think [TS]

00:16:59   that our business time or even things [TS]

00:17:01   that are production maybe i need to [TS]

00:17:03   change some production processes as well [TS]

00:17:05   so this is it you know i i'm gonna live [TS]

00:17:07   with it for now plus it's been a [TS]

00:17:09   possibly a super busy time for me since [TS]

00:17:11   june and i think that is adding a lot of [TS]

00:17:14   weight onto this as well [TS]

00:17:16   yeah it sounds like it sounds like [TS]

00:17:17   that's the case you know there's a bunch [TS]

00:17:19   of stuff going on that we will get to in [TS]

00:17:22   a little bit but I what I'm just [TS]

00:17:24   wondering is how did you walk yourself [TS]

00:17:27   into the busy weekend busier week it was [TS]

00:17:31   it was it one of these cases where you [TS]

00:17:33   just keep slowly adding on one project [TS]

00:17:36   at a time and then when you look in the [TS]

00:17:38   when you look in their rearview mirror [TS]

00:17:39   somehow at the end of the summer [TS]

00:17:41   all of a sudden you're realizing that [TS]

00:17:43   you have blocked away all of what was [TS]

00:17:45   previously free time like is that how [TS]

00:17:47   you got this this situation pretty much [TS]

00:17:50   and this is it is me is my eternal [TS]

00:17:53   struggle of being excited about [TS]

00:17:56   something and just doing it [TS]

00:17:59   whoo-hoo and and that has added more [TS]

00:18:02   time and so one of the things that I've [TS]

00:18:03   done some people may notice about me [TS]

00:18:06   some may not [TS]

00:18:07   I am a fan of professional wrestling i [TS]

00:18:09   have been since I was a kid I i know [TS]

00:18:12   it's fake [TS]

00:18:13   you don't need to tell me or as we like [TS]

00:18:14   to say great predetermined predetermined [TS]

00:18:18   ok the things that you're seeing are [TS]

00:18:19   actually happening and some smoke and [TS]

00:18:20   mirrors but there is an outcome of the [TS]

00:18:22   end I treat it like my soap opera right [TS]

00:18:24   that's why I think of it and etcetera [TS]

00:18:26   like I don't need to get into this right [TS]

00:18:27   now with you i love how pretty defensive [TS]

00:18:30   you are about this like i can i can hear [TS]

00:18:32   you're trying to shut down all the [TS]

00:18:34   things that people are going to say and [TS]

00:18:37   my feeling is always there's no [TS]

00:18:38   explaining what people like or what [TS]

00:18:40   they're interested in it just is it so [TS]

00:18:43   Mike likes wrestling deal with it people [TS]

00:18:45   it's called my podcast is called the [TS]

00:18:48   ring post a link in the show notes if [TS]

00:18:49   you're interested go check it out anyway [TS]

00:18:51   ok bring post on FM if it's your if [TS]

00:18:56   that's your bag but anyway so i did that [TS]

00:18:58   no this this is a new weekly show of [TS]

00:19:00   mine and I've been trying to do some fun [TS]

00:19:01   things of it and record like multiple [TS]

00:19:03   times in the week like I can't keep [TS]

00:19:05   doing that [TS]

00:19:06   that's one thing and then you know I I'm [TS]

00:19:08   just that it's been a busy time where [TS]

00:19:11   we've had the membership stuff looks are [TS]

00:19:13   facilitating all that recording the [TS]

00:19:15   extra episode adding the extra episodes [TS]

00:19:18   no spending 15 hours on our episode you [TS]

00:19:22   know I've had just some extra stuff [TS]

00:19:24   going on recently so now as well next [TS]

00:19:27   year I know that I need to structure [TS]

00:19:28   that time a bit differently in August [TS]

00:19:30   them i thought that i was doing a good [TS]

00:19:32   job pre-recording things early but I [TS]

00:19:34   need to maybe start recording and even [TS]

00:19:36   earlier than i thought so it's just I've [TS]

00:19:39   learned some lessons but there are just [TS]

00:19:40   some things that I'm adding in which it [TS]

00:19:43   just too much I've and I've overloaded [TS]

00:19:46   myself again I think and it's it's super [TS]

00:19:50   easy to do because this is this is a [TS]

00:19:53   problem with creative people and again [TS]

00:19:57   in the broadest possible sense of of [TS]

00:19:59   making a thing whether that's starting a [TS]

00:20:01   business writer creating a podcast or [TS]

00:20:03   whatever if you are making something in [TS]

00:20:05   the world i think by definition you have [TS]

00:20:08   to be a person who gets excited and [TS]

00:20:11   interested in things way more than a [TS]

00:20:14   normal person does [TS]

00:20:16   because that that is the thing that [TS]

00:20:17   motivates you to to start creating a [TS]

00:20:20   thing that's new and so I think if you [TS]

00:20:22   are of that bent it is very easy to keep [TS]

00:20:26   adding on more and more projects because [TS]

00:20:31   that you get you get excited about [TS]

00:20:32   things we've spoken about in the past [TS]

00:20:34   that you have that feeling that you seem [TS]

00:20:37   to have a better internal barometer of [TS]

00:20:39   letting them goes so far before you stop [TS]

00:20:42   how I don't know how you do that like [TS]

00:20:45   once I have an idea like the idea of [TS]

00:20:47   having a show about professional [TS]

00:20:48   wrestling has been something I've wanted [TS]

00:20:49   to do for a long time and I had to do it [TS]

00:20:52   who write that there was no question in [TS]

00:20:55   my mind like I love talking about this [TS]

00:20:58   thing i want to talk about the single my [TS]

00:20:59   friends and I want to make a podcast a [TS]

00:21:02   bit but that's what I've always done all [TS]

00:21:04   of my shows come from a love of talking [TS]

00:21:06   about something with the people and and [TS]

00:21:08   I couldn't not do it but you seem to [TS]

00:21:11   have some kind of barrier that something [TS]

00:21:15   has to get four like you can be excited [TS]

00:21:18   about something but you take it so far [TS]

00:21:19   and then you stopped and I don't know [TS]

00:21:22   how you do it well for me it's easier [TS]

00:21:24   with external projects or things that [TS]

00:21:29   are new [TS]

00:21:30   lately we discussed a while back you [TS]

00:21:32   know I was getting pretty close to doing [TS]

00:21:34   something like a like a video game [TS]

00:21:36   review youtube channel and then I shut [TS]

00:21:38   that down as like now this isn't this [TS]

00:21:40   isn't going to happen and part of that [TS]

00:21:42   is is thinking through the you know that [TS]

00:21:46   the maximum benefit maximum award a [TS]

00:21:49   project like that but it doesn't mean [TS]

00:21:51   that like I haven't spent a bunch of [TS]

00:21:53   time on it and I think with external [TS]

00:21:58   projects like a new YouTube channel or [TS]

00:22:00   say doing another podcast or getting [TS]

00:22:05   involved with businesses right these are [TS]

00:22:08   all kinds of things that you know [TS]

00:22:09   sometimes I say yes to these decisions [TS]

00:22:11   sometimes I say no to these decisions [TS]

00:22:12   but I try to think about the risk-return [TS]

00:22:16   reward like what is the best possible [TS]

00:22:18   way this could go what how much does [TS]

00:22:19   this look like what it's going to take [TS]

00:22:20   up with my time so for new stuff i find [TS]

00:22:24   it relatively easy at some point to sit [TS]

00:22:27   down and seriously think about it and [TS]

00:22:29   end to cut stuff but to be perfectly [TS]

00:22:33   open with you like my version of your [TS]

00:22:38   podcast stuff is that some mornings when [TS]

00:22:41   I go into work and I go to right there [TS]

00:22:45   is something that I am really excited [TS]

00:22:47   about or something that's really on my [TS]

00:22:50   mind as a thing that I want to talk [TS]

00:22:52   about in a video and i'll end up [TS]

00:22:54   spending and you know an entire morning [TS]

00:22:57   or maybe two days working on a script [TS]

00:23:00   that ultimately doesn't go anywhere [TS]

00:23:02   right but it's like but this this thing [TS]

00:23:04   has kind of like taken over my mind for [TS]

00:23:06   a while I'm really thinking about this [TS]

00:23:08   thing and I end up writing a whole bunch [TS]

00:23:10   of of stuff that that ultimately goes in [TS]

00:23:13   nowhere because I eventually decided I [TS]

00:23:15   don't want to do this video or just it [TS]

00:23:17   just isn't quite working out but i have [TS]

00:23:18   no ability to really say no mentally to [TS]

00:23:22   those kind of things like well you you [TS]

00:23:24   arrive in the office and whatever it is [TS]

00:23:26   you want to write about whatever it [TS]

00:23:28   feels like this is the thing that you're [TS]

00:23:29   going to write about that's what you're [TS]

00:23:31   going to write about it you don't really [TS]

00:23:32   have a choice in it I actually I get [TS]

00:23:34   that but like my point is like you still [TS]

00:23:36   are able to stop it right like you don't [TS]

00:23:39   keep going like [TS]

00:23:41   because many more could be like artists [TS]

00:23:43   isn't working i need to start again [TS]

00:23:45   thank you know to stop [TS]

00:23:49   yeah I mean I guess it's a kind of a [TS]

00:23:54   kind of focus on a sunk cost fallacy [TS]

00:23:55   that you know just always keep in mind [TS]

00:23:59   that the hours you have put into a thing [TS]

00:24:01   and the resources that have you you have [TS]

00:24:03   put into a thing are meaningless the the [TS]

00:24:06   only thing that matters is thinking [TS]

00:24:08   about the future hours and resources [TS]

00:24:12   that you're going to put into a project [TS]

00:24:13   and what you can expect the return is [TS]

00:24:15   going to be maybe it's just because I [TS]

00:24:17   don't really I don't really value my [TS]

00:24:21   past self very highly and whatever he [TS]

00:24:24   has been upto or whatever he has done so [TS]

00:24:26   maybe that's why I find it a little bit [TS]

00:24:28   easier to let go or projects or to have [TS]

00:24:32   been writing something for a few days [TS]

00:24:34   and then to realize that this isn't [TS]

00:24:35   going to go anywhere just forget it and [TS]

00:24:37   just just leave it and not and not feel [TS]

00:24:39   like i am going to spend the next three [TS]

00:24:41   weeks massaging this into with thing [TS]

00:24:44   that is ultimately publishable like I'm [TS]

00:24:46   very happy letting stuff go [TS]

00:24:48   maybe that's why I don't know another [TS]

00:24:50   thing I wonder is the difference in our [TS]

00:24:52   attitudes towards the things that we do [TS]

00:24:54   slow like I was I started podcast is [TS]

00:24:58   just a fun thing little my hobby like [TS]

00:25:01   the thing i love it and i ended up being [TS]

00:25:03   my business and I don't think you [TS]

00:25:06   necessarily feel that way about YouTube [TS]

00:25:08   videos like it was always intended as [TS]

00:25:10   like a business endeavor first loop so [TS]

00:25:13   like I have this like once I have an [TS]

00:25:15   idea for podcasting like I got to do it [TS]

00:25:17   even when you have an idea for a video [TS]

00:25:18   like you get so far and it's like this [TS]

00:25:21   doesn't make business sense anymore em [TS]

00:25:23   so like it goes back to the original [TS]

00:25:25   feeling about the thing with me it was [TS]

00:25:27   like this seems like it's gonna be so [TS]

00:25:29   much fun i got to do it [TS]

00:25:32   therefore make any money you're [TS]

00:25:35   passionate about what you do my do it [TS]

00:25:37   several fire in my belly [TS]

00:25:38   it is it is your strength and possibly [TS]

00:25:43   your ultimate downfall [TS]

00:25:44   mhm it's you know when you go to a job [TS]

00:25:46   interview in your strength or weakness [TS]

00:25:48   this is it for me write my strength is [TS]

00:25:50   my witness [TS]

00:25:52   I'm too focused that's my problem i [TS]

00:25:57   don't know when to stop working [TS]

00:25:59   I'm too strong of a leader I'm too much [TS]

00:26:03   of a team player [TS]

00:26:04   yeah exactly how's your summer been [TS]

00:26:09   I know you've been on vacation well out [TS]

00:26:13   by the way i have to mention this and [TS]

00:26:15   just because it's such a good joke where [TS]

00:26:18   I called your vacations a great vacation [TS]

00:26:20   right Lou and you called my name I [TS]

00:26:23   occasion [TS]

00:26:24   who y-yes that on the red it said surely [TS]

00:26:27   you mean a holy day how good is that [TS]

00:26:30   have that causes me physical pain it's [TS]

00:26:35   so good [TS]

00:26:36   that's how we know it's good because it [TS]

00:26:37   hurts you just don't think I don't think [TS]

00:26:40   that the barometer by which we measure [TS]

00:26:41   of things are good because i do not [TS]

00:26:45   approve of this parameter hydrometer is [TS]

00:26:46   little good you would without parts of [TS]

00:26:49   that i don't i don't think i can use [TS]

00:26:52   early days and i'm not sure i can bring [TS]

00:26:54   myself to do that we've discussed how my [TS]

00:26:56   holy day when this how did your [TS]

00:26:59   gradation go it went well it went well [TS]

00:27:04   what I had in mind for this hashtag [TS]

00:27:08   summer of lots of travel and not fun [TS]

00:27:10   summer you keep changing it did the [TS]

00:27:13   thing about hashtags and happy the same [TS]

00:27:15   keep changing it doesn't work anymore [TS]

00:27:18   now i think its fine there's twitter is [TS]

00:27:20   really good about that kind of stuff I'm [TS]

00:27:21   sure that's just the lot of margin or [TS]

00:27:23   whatever yeah billion surface [TS]

00:27:25   yeah it's literally perfect my whole [TS]

00:27:29   frame of reference was last summer [TS]

00:27:33   not the summer most recently passed with [TS]

00:27:35   the summer last summer yeah you're ready [TS]

00:27:37   you really helped narrow that down i'm [TS]

00:27:40   just i'm aiming for maximum clarity is [TS]

00:27:43   you're doing a great job [TS]

00:27:44   it was a disaster that summer that had [TS]

00:27:48   passed that was not the most recent [TS]

00:27:50   summer do you mean the one before the [TS]

00:27:51   one off to the next one [TS]

00:27:53   no that does not sound right now that [TS]

00:27:55   was around no that's wrong like you did [TS]

00:27:57   you not you don't know how to do this [TS]

00:27:58   following nationals yeah but so that [TS]

00:28:01   somebody didn't go well because it is a [TS]

00:28:03   terrible job of manage [TS]

00:28:04   in work and personal life and a bunch of [TS]

00:28:07   other things and so my my goal for this [TS]

00:28:11   summer was it needs to be better needs [TS]

00:28:15   to be better than last time [TS]

00:28:17   what's better better is is measured by [TS]

00:28:23   2i feel worse after having taken had [TS]

00:28:28   taken a vacation or do I feel better [TS]

00:28:30   after having taken a vacation and when I [TS]

00:28:33   came back from vacation two summers ago [TS]

00:28:35   I ended up coming back feeling frazzled [TS]

00:28:38   like I did not feel like I what a great [TS]

00:28:40   break [TS]

00:28:41   I had this was a fantastic time I ended [TS]

00:28:44   up feeling like I did everything poorly [TS]

00:28:46   i did work poorly and I did vacationing [TS]

00:28:48   poorly and it just it wasn't a great [TS]

00:28:50   experience and ended up leading into [TS]

00:28:52   like a grumpy September gray who had [TS]

00:28:55   returned it just it wasn't it wasn't a [TS]

00:28:56   good situation [TS]

00:28:58   so this summer when I mean by better is [TS]

00:29:01   it's almost measured by a kind of like a [TS]

00:29:07   like a mindfulness or or a presence in [TS]

00:29:10   the moment so that the feeling is [TS]

00:29:12   whatever I'm doing this summer at that [TS]

00:29:16   moment that should be the thing that's [TS]

00:29:18   on my mind I shouldn't be also having [TS]

00:29:21   other stuff in the back of my mind and i [TS]

00:29:24   would say for the most part I was pretty [TS]

00:29:29   successful this summer it it fell down a [TS]

00:29:32   little bit towards the end of august [TS]

00:29:35   when work life started to intrude again [TS]

00:29:38   but for the most part i was able to have [TS]

00:29:41   the feeling of like being a WC i am at [TS]

00:29:45   WWDC this is really the only thing that [TS]

00:29:48   I have to think about or that I have to [TS]

00:29:49   focus on or again for the most part i [TS]

00:29:52   was at VidCon and it's like this is what [TS]

00:29:54   I'm focusing on i'm here at VidCon let [TS]

00:29:57   me do this thing and then later in the [TS]

00:29:59   summer it's i am with my family and [TS]

00:30:02   again not entirely but mostly I'm able [TS]

00:30:05   to focus on this thing right and then [TS]

00:30:07   there's a family reunion that happens [TS]

00:30:09   later on it's like am I able to focus on [TS]

00:30:11   this thing again mostly not entirely [TS]

00:30:14   this is where work starts to intrude [TS]

00:30:16   like a little [TS]

00:30:17   little bit but it's still relatively [TS]

00:30:19   minor and then and then after that like [TS]

00:30:21   my wife and I went on our own to las [TS]

00:30:24   vegas for a bit of downtime it was like [TS]

00:30:26   yes I'm able to to focus on down time [TS]

00:30:30   here for the most part where as last [TS]

00:30:33   year again I just felt like I was trying [TS]

00:30:35   to do everything at once vastly vastly [TS]

00:30:37   overestimating how much could possibly [TS]

00:30:40   be done and this year since I cut down [TS]

00:30:47   the number of videos that i would [TS]

00:30:50   theoretically be working on over this [TS]

00:30:51   course of time and of course I cut down [TS]

00:30:53   the number of podcast I was doing I was [TS]

00:30:55   much much more successful in being able [TS]

00:30:59   to be present in the moment for the [TS]

00:31:02   things that I was doing instead of [TS]

00:31:04   always having something running in the [TS]

00:31:06   back of my mind about like you need to [TS]

00:31:08   be thinking about the next podcast of [TS]

00:31:09   what are you going to be talking about [TS]

00:31:10   and you need to be thinking about the [TS]

00:31:12   videos that you need to be writing and [TS]

00:31:13   what it's like what are you going to do [TS]

00:31:14   about that i was able to mostly kind of [TS]

00:31:16   calm that and and move that out of my [TS]

00:31:19   mind for the vast majority of the summer [TS]

00:31:22   again only falling down slightly towards [TS]

00:31:25   the end of august but so i would say was [TS]

00:31:27   mostly success i'm pretty pleased with [TS]

00:31:29   the way things went [TS]

00:31:30   yeah it sounds better sounds way better [TS]

00:31:32   and you were gone for a long time so the [TS]

00:31:34   fact that you were able to manage that [TS]

00:31:35   nicely is good [TS]

00:31:37   yeah it did it did work out i think [TS]

00:31:41   again what one of these things is really [TS]

00:31:43   trying to just really trying to know [TS]

00:31:47   about yourself and to make accurate [TS]

00:31:50   estimates about yourself and and one of [TS]

00:31:52   those things that I just couldn't ignore [TS]

00:31:54   when I was thinking forward to the [TS]

00:31:56   summer was the sheer number of flights [TS]

00:31:59   that I was going to be getting on and [TS]

00:32:02   just recognizing like that kind of stuff [TS]

00:32:05   is surprisingly draining for me that [TS]

00:32:09   there's an any day that involves any [TS]

00:32:12   kind of plane travel i just have to [TS]

00:32:14   write off the possibility of even doing [TS]

00:32:16   work because it's just like it's just [TS]

00:32:17   not going to happen because i know i'm [TS]

00:32:19   going to be thinking about the flight [TS]

00:32:20   for the whole time until I get on the [TS]

00:32:22   plane and then since I'm going to be [TS]

00:32:24   moving locations like a kind of spend [TS]

00:32:26   the rest of the day like settling into [TS]

00:32:28   wherever it is that I am just like you [TS]

00:32:30   can't possibly do [TS]

00:32:31   podcasts on any of these days you're [TS]

00:32:33   never gonna do any kind of quality [TS]

00:32:34   writing on a day like this so just [TS]

00:32:36   looking at your calendar there's so many [TS]

00:32:38   days that you're flying [TS]

00:32:39   you just have to knock all of those off [TS]

00:32:41   and then also the thing that I have to [TS]

00:32:44   recognize is both times I went to [TS]

00:32:47   America when I was coming back to the EU [TS]

00:32:51   I would be coming back from my favorite [TS]

00:32:53   time zone in the world [TS]

00:32:55   california time which is just horrific [TS]

00:32:58   for me for jet lag when I come back it [TS]

00:33:01   always knocks out a real week before I [TS]

00:33:04   feel like a normal person coming back [TS]

00:33:07   and again it's like it's it's easy to [TS]

00:33:10   look at an empty calendar and to be able [TS]

00:33:14   to overestimate how much it is that [TS]

00:33:16   you're going to do or to think the days [TS]

00:33:18   are like normal days but I was really [TS]

00:33:20   trying to think about that upcoming [TS]

00:33:23   summer think about things like people [TS]

00:33:26   that i was going to be interacting with [TS]

00:33:28   and just accepting and really [TS]

00:33:31   understanding how much time and focus [TS]

00:33:35   and energy does this really represent [TS]

00:33:39   not how much you wanted to represent and [TS]

00:33:42   try to plan for that and as always with [TS]

00:33:45   these things even when you think about [TS]

00:33:48   that there's always going to be more [TS]

00:33:50   that happens then you expect and you're [TS]

00:33:52   going to be able to do even less than [TS]

00:33:55   you think so it's like just trying to [TS]

00:33:58   just trying to plan for for all of that [TS]

00:34:00   so no yourself i guess is what I'm [TS]

00:34:03   trying to say here and i feel like i did [TS]

00:34:05   a much better job of knowing myself this [TS]

00:34:08   summer and i think i will will do an [TS]

00:34:10   even better job of knowing myself next [TS]

00:34:13   summer about how to how to work and how [TS]

00:34:16   to not work and how to do great [TS]

00:34:18   vacations I need to know myself better [TS]

00:34:23   well you know like i said it's it [TS]

00:34:28   well here's the problem i know myself [TS]

00:34:30   and what I ignore what I know [TS]

00:34:32   well that's that's a whole different [TS]

00:34:34   situation [TS]

00:34:35   well I mean if we imagine a mic early as [TS]

00:34:39   a black box knowing yourself and [TS]

00:34:41   ignoring what you know about yourself [TS]

00:34:43   from a black box perspective is [TS]

00:34:44   functionally equivalent to not knowing [TS]

00:34:46   about yourself so i don't really give [TS]

00:34:48   you any credit for that [TS]

00:34:49   ok I'm sorry Mike I'm looking for credit [TS]

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00:36:50   laugh and part of the problem I have had [TS]

00:36:54   this summer [TS]

00:36:55   who is a huge disruption in my life [TS]

00:36:58   which is taking place over the last few [TS]

00:37:01   weeks [TS]

00:37:02   yes and that is a second job that I've [TS]

00:37:03   taken on which is trying to buy a house [TS]

00:37:07   hmm it seems like buying a house i don't [TS]

00:37:11   know i have this irrational feeling that [TS]

00:37:14   buying a house should be like buying [TS]

00:37:17   anything again how hard can it be [TS]

00:37:20   all i want to do is add house to cart [TS]

00:37:22   and checkout that's that's exactly right [TS]

00:37:25   that's what I want to do yeah every once [TS]

00:37:29   in a while I do look at like property [TS]

00:37:30   price apps you know to see houses in an [TS]

00:37:33   area cuz i'm curious about this kind of [TS]

00:37:34   thing I do feel like all of those real [TS]

00:37:36   estate afterwards you can browse through [TS]

00:37:37   the houses and you're like oh here's [TS]

00:37:38   here's the house think they should have [TS]

00:37:40   a little ad house to cart at the bottom [TS]

00:37:43   i guess i would like to buy this house [TS]

00:37:44   can we just can we just do this can I [TS]

00:37:47   just press a button and like mortgage [TS]

00:37:49   approved it all just it all just goes [TS]

00:37:50   through but now it sounds like from your [TS]

00:37:53   experience that is not nearly [TS]

00:37:55   it's not really that simple no it's a [TS]

00:37:57   nightmare I can't imagine doing this on [TS]

00:38:01   my own like a manatee not buying this [TS]

00:38:05   house together is the only things able [TS]

00:38:08   to keep me sane because she is a very [TS]

00:38:10   detail-oriented person and is reading [TS]

00:38:13   all the paperwork on spending time on it [TS]

00:38:15   like things that I don't want to do but [TS]

00:38:18   while she's doing a lot of that stuff [TS]

00:38:19   there's just more that's happening in [TS]

00:38:22   your life and it really does feel like [TS]

00:38:24   having another job because it's adding [TS]

00:38:28   stress man it's like a new job it's like [TS]

00:38:31   when you start a job because of [TS]

00:38:32   everything you're learning is completely [TS]

00:38:34   new who and then you're dealing with a [TS]

00:38:37   ton of paperwork right so it feels like [TS]

00:38:39   when it starts it's a new job then it [TS]

00:38:43   starts to feel like a job that you're [TS]

00:38:45   settled in with because you then have to [TS]

00:38:47   start chasing people [TS]

00:38:49   the thing that you need and this happens [TS]

00:38:52   by email and it happens by phone you [TS]

00:38:55   start getting a bunch of emails that you [TS]

00:38:57   don't want and the problem that I have [TS]

00:39:02   found is you have this new job that you [TS]

00:39:05   have to pay a lot of attention to and it [TS]

00:39:07   takes up a lot of your time but you [TS]

00:39:09   still doing the job that you have [TS]

00:39:10   already as well so I'm working two jobs [TS]

00:39:13   right now so this is part of the [TS]

00:39:18   background radiation behind you the busy [TS]

00:39:21   week and the busier week is also [TS]

00:39:23   essentially you feel like you have a [TS]

00:39:25   whole other job you're trying to find [TS]

00:39:27   and buy house [TS]

00:39:29   yeah it's it's a real big thing and [TS]

00:39:32   something that's making it a little bit [TS]

00:39:34   harder for us there are a bunch of [TS]

00:39:36   circumstances around the house that [TS]

00:39:38   we're buying which means that we from [TS]

00:39:40   putting in the offer have one month 28 [TS]

00:39:45   days to buy the house who this process [TS]

00:39:48   usually takes 12 weeks three moves to do [TS]

00:39:52   and we have to compress it to one month [TS]

00:39:54   so it has been fast paced and action [TS]

00:39:57   packed exciting i'm sure it is exciting [TS]

00:40:03   it is [TS]

00:40:04   it's also terrifying it's terrifying [TS]

00:40:08   when you are self-employed who to think [TS]

00:40:13   about owning a home you know that is a [TS]

00:40:17   scary thing to think about and it's [TS]

00:40:20   something that I am coming to terms we [TS]

00:40:22   have been trying to come to terms with [TS]

00:40:24   and I'm sure it's gonna take a little [TS]

00:40:25   while [TS]

00:40:26   why do you think it's particularly scary [TS]

00:40:27   when you're self-employed like what is [TS]

00:40:29   what is the thing that keeps me up at [TS]

00:40:32   night it's on you the money that you [TS]

00:40:35   make is on you who now there is as much [TS]

00:40:38   risk of me getting fired from a job as [TS]

00:40:43   series from my business fall into pieces [TS]

00:40:45   right in fact if anything I would say [TS]

00:40:47   it's less likely for my business to fall [TS]

00:40:50   to pieces because if something is going [TS]

00:40:52   wrong by and large I can know about it [TS]

00:40:56   maybe try and fix it right [TS]

00:40:57   blue and if something's going wrong in [TS]

00:40:59   the company here employed by [TS]

00:41:01   most of the time you can't do anything [TS]

00:41:02   about it right it's not even in your [TS]

00:41:04   view that there's a problem even if [TS]

00:41:06   there was you probably couldn't be to [TS]

00:41:08   want to fix it right right companies go [TS]

00:41:10   bust it happens and then if you want one [TS]

00:41:12   of those companies then you're in [TS]

00:41:14   trouble so in that sense like okay I [TS]

00:41:17   maybe I have a little bit more security [TS]

00:41:20   in a weird way [TS]

00:41:21   however the money that comes through the [TS]

00:41:24   company of the money that comes to me [TS]

00:41:25   i'm responsible for making a lot of it [TS]

00:41:28   who you know that running you're running [TS]

00:41:31   this company i am responsible for the [TS]

00:41:34   directions that goes in and that is [TS]

00:41:38   scary when you then have to couple on a [TS]

00:41:41   financial commitment and our home and i [TS]

00:41:44   mortgaged it payment that you have to me [TS]

00:41:46   every month right and having people rely [TS]

00:41:50   on you to bring that money in so you can [TS]

00:41:53   continue living in the house right that [TS]

00:41:56   is a very very different feeling it is a [TS]

00:41:58   feeling I didn't expect this quite close [TS]

00:42:02   to what it was like when I originally [TS]

00:42:05   quit my job [TS]

00:42:06   who because it is the dish it just got [TS]

00:42:11   real feeling and it's all on you now [TS]

00:42:15   buddy [TS]

00:42:16   yeah that's how it feels i can i can [TS]

00:42:20   definitely sympathize with that like I [TS]

00:42:24   don't even know if I'm how much more [TS]

00:42:27   busy i really am [TS]

00:42:28   Lou but everything feels more busy so [TS]

00:42:32   I've noticed the think this week where I [TS]

00:42:34   felt that this week that i have been [TS]

00:42:36   jam-packed and my calendar says so that [TS]

00:42:38   I've had lots of stuff on my task [TS]

00:42:40   manager says I have lots of stuff on [TS]

00:42:41   however this week every day I've got my [TS]

00:42:45   task manager 20 which is not something [TS]

00:42:49   that usually happens who usually has a [TS]

00:42:51   couple of things left i moved to the [TS]

00:42:53   next day by being clearing my tasks more [TS]

00:42:55   and I don't fully understand what's [TS]

00:42:58   going on here [TS]

00:42:59   Eva I am overworking because i feel like [TS]

00:43:02   i'm busy blue or more correctly planning [TS]

00:43:06   things or this is just like a freaking [TS]

00:43:07   aging I don't know what is the cause and [TS]

00:43:09   effect is here but all I know is I feel [TS]

00:43:12   like I'm busier and I'm doing more stuff [TS]

00:43:14   it's very strange and i don't actually [TS]

00:43:16   think that those two things are [TS]

00:43:17   connected in a weird way like I feel [TS]

00:43:21   busier and then more work it's not that [TS]

00:43:23   I'm doing more work and then feeling [TS]

00:43:25   busier you think the busyness is causing [TS]

00:43:28   you to do more where I think maybe which [TS]

00:43:30   is very strange [TS]

00:43:32   I don't understand how things work in [TS]

00:43:33   your mind no I think it's like the [TS]

00:43:36   stress of knowing there's so much stuff [TS]

00:43:38   on its been pushing me to work longer [TS]

00:43:41   hours i think that might be what's going [TS]

00:43:42   on here [TS]

00:43:43   right because things are real you have a [TS]

00:43:47   deadline with this house [TS]

00:43:48   yep it has to get done and it's all on [TS]

00:43:52   you [TS]

00:43:53   so somebody has to stay up and do all [TS]

00:43:55   these things because maybe like that the [TS]

00:44:01   fact i have this insane deadline of a [TS]

00:44:03   house is making every deadline feel [TS]

00:44:05   tough back right it's like deadlines [TS]

00:44:08   means something [TS]

00:44:10   yeah this is this is actually a deadline [TS]

00:44:14   means something [TS]

00:44:15   yes I do i do find that one of the [TS]

00:44:20   things that you learn in life is many [TS]

00:44:21   deadlines they're not really deadlines [TS]

00:44:24   this is actually very few things that [TS]

00:44:26   are real deadline so things have to [TS]

00:44:29   happen by a certain date many deadlines [TS]

00:44:32   have a kind of squishiness to them but [TS]

00:44:34   it seems like this house deadline is a [TS]

00:44:36   real deadline like if you don't hit this [TS]

00:44:38   you lose this house and then maybe you [TS]

00:44:40   start all over and that's not something [TS]

00:44:42   that you want to do now you have to [TS]

00:44:44   start all over is one of the worst are [TS]

00:44:46   all of those you can be at right like he [TS]

00:44:50   lost the house go back to jail do not [TS]

00:44:53   pass go do not collect 200 pounds it's [TS]

00:44:56   really stressful man i'm very sorry but [TS]

00:44:58   it's stressful for you I think I'll give [TS]

00:45:00   a little background but I've never [TS]

00:45:01   rented a place you know so like there's [TS]

00:45:03   a lot of new things here for me even [TS]

00:45:06   just like going to look at somewhere and [TS]

00:45:08   I i live at home right now [TS]

00:45:11   and I will be moving straight into her [TS]

00:45:13   house that I own them so there's so many [TS]

00:45:16   new things happening right now like I've [TS]

00:45:18   never well I move once in my life you [TS]

00:45:21   know and I wasn't controlling the move [TS]

00:45:24   my parents did that so oh you mean move [TS]

00:45:27   once just as as a human being ever [TS]

00:45:30   yeah from born until now until this [TS]

00:45:33   moment yeah what never moved while [TS]

00:45:35   technically it's twice but i don't [TS]

00:45:36   remember the first one right look at but [TS]

00:45:38   you know we moved to the place that [TS]

00:45:40   we're now about 11 years ago who but I i [TS]

00:45:43   wasn't in control of any of that [TS]

00:45:45   everything was just done around me but [TS]

00:45:47   like this is like everything [TS]

00:45:49   everything's on on me on us and it's [TS]

00:45:52   just a really strange thing and it is [TS]

00:45:56   playing into a problem that i have of a [TS]

00:46:00   feeling of busyness stressing me out [TS]

00:46:03   you know when I spoke about on the show [TS]

00:46:05   in the past where like I feel like I'm [TS]

00:46:07   busy and I'm like get super stressed out [TS]

00:46:09   about it want to sit down and work out [TS]

00:46:10   why actually have it becomes a lot more [TS]

00:46:12   manageable i think a lot of people like [TS]

00:46:14   to sit down and write a list of stuff [TS]

00:46:16   you've got it feels better but this time [TS]

00:46:19   i actually can't do that because I can't [TS]

00:46:23   write out the house buying process [TS]

00:46:24   because every day new things are [TS]

00:46:26   happening that I cannot foresee so when [TS]

00:46:30   i do when i put on my to-do list by [TS]

00:46:32   house I have no idea what that means [TS]

00:46:34   right until the moment that it's done [TS]

00:46:36   yeah this feels like one of those [TS]

00:46:38   moments where you know that someone's [TS]

00:46:41   going to chime in like oh you just crank [TS]

00:46:42   they're getting things done methodology [TS]

00:46:44   right you just think well what's the [TS]

00:46:45   next physical action i have to take it [TS]

00:46:46   like you know what for some big projects [TS]

00:46:48   especially projects where there's just a [TS]

00:46:51   huge cloud of unknowing ability around [TS]

00:46:54   them it it's not that simple [TS]

00:46:56   notebook right like you this is the [TS]

00:46:59   problem of unknown unknowns that you [TS]

00:47:02   don't know what you don't know yet and [TS]

00:47:05   and that makes that makes estimation and [TS]

00:47:09   difficulty level just meaningless just [TS]

00:47:12   thrown out the window you have no [TS]

00:47:14   ability to know how hard this is going [TS]

00:47:16   to be or how long it's going to take or [TS]

00:47:17   what needs to happen because you don't [TS]

00:47:19   know the step that you don't know [TS]

00:47:21   because you've never bought a house [TS]

00:47:22   before I have a great example of this [TS]

00:47:24   Lou this week we knew that we were [TS]

00:47:27   expecting information from our solicitor [TS]

00:47:30   little lawyer and we call it was him and [TS]

00:47:34   this was going to be a bunch of [TS]

00:47:35   information about the property contracts [TS]

00:47:38   and stuff like that what we need to look [TS]

00:47:39   over so we were expecting these [TS]

00:47:41   documents to come through they said 50 [TS]

00:47:44   documents right so I knew this paperwork [TS]

00:47:50   was coming through didn't expect 50 [TS]

00:47:53   documents that we have to read [TS]

00:47:54   uh-huh did you read the mic i didn't [TS]

00:47:56   know this happens when you say that we [TS]

00:48:00   had to read all I have a stack to read [TS]

00:48:02   it's just not the full stack ok they [TS]

00:48:05   have been vetted now I have been giving [TS]

00:48:08   me this is the thing you have to read [TS]

00:48:10   this read it [TS]

00:48:11   that's what i've been told i'm very [TS]

00:48:13   grateful for this but it's like even the [TS]

00:48:16   amount that i have to read is more than [TS]

00:48:18   I thought you know like I have like [TS]

00:48:20   maybe like 15 things 15 document have to [TS]

00:48:22   read [TS]

00:48:22   I thought we were gonna get like five [TS]

00:48:24   who writes this is like you cannot plan [TS]

00:48:27   for this but then even in the back of my [TS]

00:48:29   mind I know I'm not reading on that [TS]

00:48:30   stuff but it's there in my head right as [TS]

00:48:32   this thing that is there that needs to [TS]

00:48:35   be done [TS]

00:48:35   I like that you just admitted on the [TS]

00:48:37   show that you have been handed a [TS]

00:48:39   pre-screen like please read these things [TS]

00:48:42   all I'm so long list of things but [TS]

00:48:44   you're still not even gonna read the [TS]

00:48:45   thing is I I did it [TS]

00:48:47   this is the thing that was on me does [TS]

00:48:49   not all those documents we read i would [TS]

00:48:51   have read an amount of them because i [TS]

00:48:52   couldn't find the time for like I will [TS]

00:48:55   within the deadlines that have been set [TS]

00:48:56   for us there's no way that I would be [TS]

00:48:59   able to do that land it's because dinner [TS]

00:49:03   is amazing and she will stay up to a [TS]

00:49:05   very late doing it like I just can't [TS]

00:49:08   bring myself to do that again it adds [TS]

00:49:12   into the business feeling right well [TS]

00:49:14   like my brain I'm doing right now my [TS]

00:49:16   brain is saying you can't there's no way [TS]

00:49:18   you can do this right yes this is the [TS]

00:49:21   thing that there is something eating [TS]

00:49:23   away at your mind even if you're not [TS]

00:49:25   actually doing it yep it's still [TS]

00:49:27   consuming some part of your brain that [TS]

00:49:30   worries about it and contribute to the [TS]

00:49:32   feeling of business if this whole thing [TS]

00:49:34   is just crazy [TS]

00:49:35   but the next episode we may own this [TS]

00:49:38   house which is amazing i'm gonna have an [TS]

00:49:41   office gray who you're gonna have an [TS]

00:49:44   actual dedicated podcasting office mega [TS]

00:49:48   office is what it's called mega offer [TS]

00:49:51   yeah i've given it the name mega office [TS]

00:49:53   i have a Pinterest board setup called [TS]

00:49:54   mega office now or I'm adding things in [TS]

00:49:57   i'm looking at ikea catalogs who I'm [TS]

00:50:01   looking at smart home devices and very [TS]

00:50:04   accept it [TS]

00:50:05   that's what I'm excited about I'm [TS]

00:50:07   excited about mega office that is [TS]

00:50:09   exciting that's the reason that you're [TS]

00:50:10   doing this right to get a place that you [TS]

00:50:12   can make your own space [TS]

00:50:13   this is one of the key reasons yeah [TS]

00:50:15   we're getting a two-bedroom place and [TS]

00:50:17   when i'm going to finally have an office [TS]

00:50:20   to work in and we're going to be in the [TS]

00:50:23   inner rim [TS]

00:50:24   oh wow you're really upgrading your life [TS]

00:50:27   there's a coffee shop I can walk to the [TS]

00:50:30   potential because another coffee with [TS]

00:50:31   later we went to view the house again [TS]

00:50:33   yesterday and I had amazing french toast [TS]

00:50:36   at this place [TS]

00:50:37   there is a gym in our building gray [TS]

00:50:41   oh that's nice where we are moving into [TS]

00:50:43   civilization that's what we're doing [TS]

00:50:45   here [TS]

00:50:46   that's very exciting we will be able to [TS]

00:50:48   jump on a train and be in central London [TS]

00:50:50   in 15 minutes you can fantasize about [TS]

00:50:52   how productive you're going to be in [TS]

00:50:54   this new environment it's gonna be [TS]

00:50:56   amazing [TS]

00:50:56   I gonna do four times the shows and I'm [TS]

00:50:59   gonna be a bodybuilder is gonna be [TS]

00:51:01   brilliant [TS]

00:51:02   i can'twe well it seems like a very good [TS]

00:51:03   reason to buy a house that [TS]

00:51:05   yep i mean that in all seriousness like [TS]

00:51:08   it's going to make big changes to our [TS]

00:51:11   lives in good and bad ways right but i [TS]

00:51:13   think the net result i'm very positive [TS]

00:51:17   that the net result of this is going to [TS]

00:51:18   be all upside well you know like we're [TS]

00:51:20   going to have our own space [TS]

00:51:22   we're going to be happy in it we're [TS]

00:51:23   going to be back in in London again my [TS]

00:51:26   clothes into London we actually go do [TS]

00:51:28   things i think it's going to make a lot [TS]

00:51:30   of positive effects on our life because [TS]

00:51:32   if it's going to add some stuff too [TS]

00:51:33   it's gonna add I feel like a super adult [TS]

00:51:37   back [TS]

00:51:40   this is something something a friend [TS]

00:51:41   mentioned this to me the other day the [TS]

00:51:43   term super adult and that is how this [TS]

00:51:44   feels like everything's got an [TS]

00:51:47   incredible [TS]

00:51:48   we got engaged in between the time of [TS]

00:51:50   recorded TV shows as well right [TS]

00:51:52   oh yeah so even mention that on the show [TS]

00:51:55   and all we did [TS]

00:51:56   no I asked the DNA to marry me and [TS]

00:51:58   foolishly enough she said yes so like [TS]

00:52:03   him doing everything like [TS]

00:52:05   congratulations to the two you but this [TS]

00:52:09   is what you mean by super adults that [TS]

00:52:12   you are engaged you're going to be a [TS]

00:52:14   married man you're going to have a [TS]

00:52:16   mortgage [TS]

00:52:17   I guess you need you need like a car [TS]

00:52:21   payment next we're thinking about [TS]

00:52:23   getting a call yeah haha that will also [TS]

00:52:26   mean I have to get driving license first [TS]

00:52:28   because i don't have one because I'm [TS]

00:52:31   alumna right right [TS]

00:52:33   why would you need a driver's license is [TS]

00:52:34   not exactly have no need for it but we [TS]

00:52:36   get a parking space [TS]

00:52:38   so now we're thinking about que la now [TS]

00:52:41   see that's a terrible reason to get a [TS]

00:52:42   car is because you have a part not [TS]

00:52:43   immediately [TS]

00:52:44   first we can bring out the parking space [TS]

00:52:46   yeah rented out thats exactly hit your [TS]

00:52:49   parking space in London it's like owning [TS]

00:52:51   a goldmine get that out so through that [TS]

00:52:55   but we are thinking about like [TS]

00:52:56   eventually getting a car you know like [TS]

00:52:58   where we're moving head on into adult [TS]

00:53:01   life here [TS]

00:53:02   wow how do you feel about that Mike does [TS]

00:53:07   it feel like mortality crushing down [TS]

00:53:09   upon you or you mostly excited I'm [TS]

00:53:11   mostly excited [TS]

00:53:12   good I'm glad you are I haven't had the [TS]

00:53:14   mortality feeling yet just you wait [TS]

00:53:16   oh yeah those documents right it's not [TS]

00:53:18   coming my way lots of life insurance [TS]

00:53:20   paperwork stuff you know who that [TS]

00:53:21   mortality is going to be outlined to me [TS]

00:53:23   and black-and-white excellent excellent [TS]

00:53:27   there's a lot going on right now and I'm [TS]

00:53:29   hoping that once i get through this [TS]

00:53:31   probably year-long process i'll be back [TS]

00:53:34   to wear to a better feeling against it [TS]

00:53:37   like my feeling right now in my brain is [TS]

00:53:39   like you are feeling really stressed [TS]

00:53:40   right now you have a lot of things going [TS]

00:53:42   on you have new projects and stuff that [TS]

00:53:43   you're working on but in 2017 who you [TS]

00:53:47   hopefully we'll have got through a lot [TS]

00:53:49   of this so then you can start to relax [TS]

00:53:51   and then you gotta plan a wedding [TS]

00:53:53   congratulations [TS]

00:53:54   right yeah you'll be don't worry you'll [TS]

00:53:56   be through this in a short for months [TS]

00:54:00   that's the that's what you're planning [TS]

00:54:02   on here that at least the buying of the [TS]

00:54:04   house will be done [TS]

00:54:06   yeah we will be moved in and I have mega [TS]

00:54:08   office so what can go wrong what can go [TS]

00:54:10   wrong when I could visit you there [TS]

00:54:12   it'll be fun yep i feel like the lesson [TS]

00:54:16   for the listener is to not do what Mike [TS]

00:54:21   is done [TS]

00:54:21   yeah take this as a warning yeah if [TS]

00:54:24   you're going to buy a house or do some [TS]

00:54:28   other equivalently large unknowable [TS]

00:54:32   project don't also take on a bunch of [TS]

00:54:36   other new projects right before you do [TS]

00:54:39   this [TS]

00:54:39   that's it that's a bad idea you should [TS]

00:54:41   do the ante my clan and try to pare down [TS]

00:54:46   everything to the bare minimum if you're [TS]

00:54:50   taking on a big project like this [TS]

00:54:51   because it's going to be a second job [TS]

00:54:54   don't do what Mike did cut everything to [TS]

00:54:56   the bone then embarked on a big project [TS]

00:54:59   like getting a house I feel like being [TS]

00:55:01   self-employed this is the key problem [TS]

00:55:03   here because at least i know in my old [TS]

00:55:06   day job I could have just walked less [TS]

00:55:09   right like look just like i like how you [TS]

00:55:13   said that like yeah you know I should [TS]

00:55:15   have just looked busy for awhile and at [TS]

00:55:19   but also be working on the house after [TS]

00:55:21   my work day [TS]

00:55:23   yep because i was running and starting a [TS]

00:55:26   business whilst i was in my workday but [TS]

00:55:29   I can't really do that now because the [TS]

00:55:33   output is directly responsible for me as [TS]

00:55:36   the owner of the business and as a [TS]

00:55:38   contributor to the business right [TS]

00:55:40   so with the self-employed stuff it's [TS]

00:55:42   like if I don't do the work I don't get [TS]

00:55:44   paid but it's when I was in my old job i [TS]

00:55:47   could do less work but still got same [TS]

00:55:49   amount of money every month because I [TS]

00:55:51   could hide it so i think it's it died [TS]

00:55:54   for me I feel like at least my own [TS]

00:55:56   experience this put this house buying [TS]

00:55:59   stuff is harder on me because of my [TS]

00:56:01   working situation because if I would've [TS]

00:56:03   still been at the bank [TS]

00:56:04   I could have carved out sometime in my [TS]

00:56:06   day [TS]

00:56:07   to do and think about this stuff more so [TS]

00:56:10   than what I can currently do [TS]

00:56:11   yeah i agree with that I was just trying [TS]

00:56:13   to find but i'm i'm not going to be able [TS]

00:56:15   to remember it now maybe i'll see if i [TS]

00:56:17   can find it for the show notes but I [TS]

00:56:19   read a book a long time ago which was [TS]

00:56:22   essentially about office culture it was [TS]

00:56:27   particularly in the United Kingdom but [TS]

00:56:29   they were doing studies of essentially [TS]

00:56:33   watching office monkeys all day and [TS]

00:56:35   trying to figure out how much are they [TS]

00:56:38   actually doing and the main thesis of [TS]

00:56:41   the book was that an enormous number of [TS]

00:56:44   white-collar employees are vastly [TS]

00:56:47   underemployed that the the joke in in [TS]

00:56:51   office space where someone comes in and [TS]

00:56:52   he's like I actually probably do about [TS]

00:56:54   20 minutes of real intense work in a day [TS]

00:56:57   is like for lots of jobs like that's not [TS]

00:56:59   necessarily that far off [TS]

00:57:02   so this is the difference with being [TS]

00:57:04   self-employed versus having a job where [TS]

00:57:08   what you were saying before about the [TS]

00:57:10   the relative security of either [TS]

00:57:14   yeah I do i do think you may have a very [TS]

00:57:16   good point that being self employed in a [TS]

00:57:18   bizarre way is actually more of a secure [TS]

00:57:21   job but the the advantage that an office [TS]

00:57:27   job has is that kind of coasting what [TS]

00:57:29   you can do is the thing I can do that I [TS]

00:57:32   can do the coasting right or like you [TS]

00:57:35   know i i'm not saying it but you know [TS]

00:57:37   you just a ton of time off right which [TS]

00:57:39   is the equivalent of all the coasting [TS]

00:57:42   right you took all the coasting that you [TS]

00:57:44   live in here and you put it in one block [TS]

00:57:46   you know and I could do that you could [TS]

00:57:49   do that like the business will continue [TS]

00:57:51   to run I could just stop things now for [TS]

00:57:53   all we stopped cortex for a bit right [TS]

00:57:54   well I made us money with that but [TS]

00:57:58   that's exactly it it's like when you're [TS]

00:58:01   self-employed I i can put i can put a [TS]

00:58:04   very exact number [TS]

00:58:07   unlike the opportunity cost of this [TS]

00:58:09   summer yep and that that's a thing that [TS]

00:58:12   you just can't escape from and when [TS]

00:58:16   you're coasting in an office job that [TS]

00:58:18   salary still keeps coming in and you [TS]

00:58:20   can kind of you can feel better about it [TS]

00:58:23   when you're focusing on some other [TS]

00:58:25   project for some other length of time [TS]

00:58:27   like I had a busy I'd love to travel [TS]

00:58:29   this summer as well so i was happy for [TS]

00:58:31   court xmas right for that like made it [TS]

00:58:34   easier because I put a lot of work into [TS]

00:58:36   this show we both do and it's probably [TS]

00:58:38   the show that i put the most time into [TS]

00:58:41   because of the way that we plan and the [TS]

00:58:43   way that we added and that kind of stuff [TS]

00:58:44   but I needed starting right now I'm at [TS]

00:58:48   the point now where like show needs to [TS]

00:58:50   come back because buying a house key [TS]

00:58:57   card cortexes can't last forever [TS]

00:58:59   Mikey's gonna get paid for [TS]

00:59:03   so this is the house that cortex built [TS]

00:59:05   this is what I'm hearing right because [TS]

00:59:06   we can't we can't keep canceling the [TS]

00:59:08   show we can't keep taking off forever [TS]

00:59:09   yet where we're actually naming it [TS]

00:59:12   cortex cottage so fantastic I hope to [TS]

00:59:16   see that above the door when I come and [TS]

00:59:18   visit of course cortex college a million [TS]

00:59:21   people wrote in to tell us that [TS]

00:59:24   Microsoft have launched an Evernote [TS]

00:59:28   importing tool [TS]

00:59:29   yes yes so this is at all written by [TS]

00:59:32   Microsoft to look at your Evernote [TS]

00:59:35   database i guess and imported i'm [TS]

00:59:40   guessing cleanly ish into OneNote and [TS]

00:59:44   I'm wondering if you have tried this at [TS]

00:59:46   all [TS]

00:59:47   no i haven't tried this and I i received [TS]

00:59:52   what what seemed like all of the [TS]

00:59:55   messages in the world from people [TS]

00:59:57   letting me know about this imp [TS]

00:59:57   letting me know about this imp [TS]

01:00:00   order which may just seem like want one [TS]

01:00:03   of these prime examples of I don't think [TS]

01:00:06   you understand what my problem is [TS]

01:00:09   and while yes i did complain about the [TS]

01:00:10   lack of an importer i think i also made [TS]

01:00:13   it pretty clear on the show that I tried [TS]

01:00:15   very hard to make microsoft onenote work [TS]

01:00:18   for me but its fundamental structure of [TS]

01:00:21   notebooks with tabs is unworkable for [TS]

01:00:25   the way that I want to use it it's just [TS]

01:00:27   too clumsy I i tried it as like it is [TS]

01:00:31   not designed for hierarchies in the way [TS]

01:00:35   that i need ABI so I'm very very glad [TS]

01:00:39   for lots of people that the OneNote [TS]

01:00:41   importer exists on the mac very happy [TS]

01:00:43   for everybody but it is it is of no use [TS]

01:00:47   to me what was what was much more useful [TS]

01:00:51   was the feedback that people sent with [TS]

01:00:53   regards to evernote about tags which we [TS]

01:00:56   touched on briefly last time that there [TS]

01:00:58   are different ways to think about [TS]

01:01:01   organizing your data and Evernote with [TS]

01:01:03   tags as opposed to using notebooks which [TS]

01:01:07   is what i did and at this point i have [TS]

01:01:12   spent a pretty considerable amount of [TS]

01:01:16   time reworking my Evernote system from [TS]

01:01:21   notebooks two tags in a way that [TS]

01:01:25   Evernote was clearly i don't want to say [TS]

01:01:28   grumpy with but like boy has Evernote [TS]

01:01:30   spent a lot of time syncing between all [TS]

01:01:32   of my device it's going through all of [TS]

01:01:35   these changes but so yes this is this is [TS]

01:01:39   what I have mostly moved toward at this [TS]

01:01:42   point I think I'm about 80% done i'm [TS]

01:01:44   going to guess with trying to convert [TS]

01:01:46   everything into tags and it's workable [TS]

01:01:51   as is as is always the frustration like [TS]

01:01:54   I find Evernote is is just really clunky [TS]

01:01:57   on iOS so I have essentially had to do [TS]

01:02:00   all of this on my computer and and i'm [TS]

01:02:03   just using Evernote on iOS to save [TS]

01:02:06   things but I can't really organize [TS]

01:02:08   things on an iOS with tags but like you [TS]

01:02:11   know what [TS]

01:02:12   this is one of these cases where I'm [TS]

01:02:14   have to weigh the pros and cons of [TS]

01:02:17   trying to move to a disk different [TS]

01:02:18   system what those systems have how did [TS]

01:02:20   they work versus sticking with the way [TS]

01:02:21   Evernote is and like making it worth [TS]

01:02:24   with work with tags and so my conclusion [TS]

01:02:26   is at least from from playing around [TS]

01:02:28   with it for a while is that like yes the [TS]

01:02:31   tag solution is workable non-ideal in [TS]

01:02:34   very many ways but it is workable and [TS]

01:02:37   far less of a time investment than other [TS]

01:02:40   things would would be so even though I'm [TS]

01:02:44   gave that huge rant about Evernote and [TS]

01:02:45   even though i am still concerned deeply [TS]

01:02:48   about the future of the company this is [TS]

01:02:49   this is one of these cases where I'm [TS]

01:02:52   going to be sticking with it i'm going [TS]

01:02:54   to use tags and you know if the day [TS]

01:02:58   comes when Evernote gets shut down or [TS]

01:03:01   acquired which is often the same thing [TS]

01:03:04   in the software world like that'sthat's [TS]

01:03:06   future Gray's problem that is not [TS]

01:03:09   current great problem he can deal with [TS]

01:03:11   that [TS]

01:03:11   exactly i'm sure that guy has lots of [TS]

01:03:14   time on his hands he can fix it [TS]

01:03:16   well he's got nothing plan right now [TS]

01:03:17   exactly calendar is clear in with the [TS]

01:03:20   only 19 when with the facebook buys [TS]

01:03:23   Evernote I had spoken about my system [TS]

01:03:28   you know if not being basically just [TS]

01:03:30   about the holiday planning for me right [TS]

01:03:34   now i have taken some trips I wasn't [TS]

01:03:38   using Evernote at all who and I have [TS]

01:03:42   been completely happy with saving pdfs [TS]

01:03:45   to apple notes and writing out some [TS]

01:03:47   information about my trips into notes I [TS]

01:03:49   found it to be a great system very happy [TS]

01:03:52   of with it so I'm moving away from [TS]

01:03:56   haven't completely so you are probably [TS]

01:03:58   one of the throngs of customers who has [TS]

01:04:02   decided that the alternatives are [TS]

01:04:03   cheaper and adequate compared to [TS]

01:04:05   evernote exactly [TS]

01:04:07   exactly give me great confidence in the [TS]

01:04:10   future of the company [TS]

01:04:11   yeah I'm sorry about that there was this [TS]

01:04:14   article that got sent to us about the [TS]

01:04:18   fact that kind of stabilizing as a [TS]

01:04:20   company like they did this big I think [TS]

01:04:22   in the wall street journal finder for [TS]

01:04:23   the show notes but it seems like [TS]

01:04:25   Evernote making money again and they've [TS]

01:04:27   stripped down and they've gotten rid of [TS]

01:04:28   a lot of those crazy benefits that we [TS]

01:04:30   spoken about the man they seem like [TS]

01:04:32   they're getting a bit [TS]

01:04:34   they seem very confident in the common [TS]

01:04:36   in the future of the company i remain [TS]

01:04:38   unconfident the food but I'm happy that [TS]

01:04:41   they're confident [TS]

01:04:43   yeah I mean I make jokes blade a [TS]

01:04:45   genuinely hope that Evernote does well [TS]

01:04:48   because you're still using me to exist [TS]

01:04:50   because i'm still here regularly exactly [TS]

01:04:53   because this particular rad has not has [TS]

01:04:58   no exit from this particular ship its I [TS]

01:05:00   really love this chip is doing about we [TS]

01:05:05   spoken in the past about the strange [TS]

01:05:08   ways in which things can happen you know [TS]

01:05:12   you spoke about this in the past about [TS]

01:05:14   videos like you have an idea for a video [TS]

01:05:15   and you see in other places [TS]

01:05:17   Lou something weird happened with [TS]

01:05:20   YouTube life the YouTube simulated game [TS]

01:05:23   with the one we talked about on the [TS]

01:05:25   episode out of time to a timer and we [TS]

01:05:28   spoke about two things we spoke about [TS]

01:05:31   YouTube life and we'll talk about [TS]

01:05:33   PewDiePie's video about YouTube life me [TS]

01:05:36   youtube simulation game [TS]

01:05:38   PewDiePie has announced that he is [TS]

01:05:40   making his own YouTube simulation game [TS]

01:05:43   and he announced this about two days [TS]

01:05:46   after we published the episode which to [TS]

01:05:49   make it even funnier was recorded months [TS]

01:05:54   ago [TS]

01:05:55   that's what i like the most about this [TS]

01:05:57   is we release the episode a couple of [TS]

01:05:59   late has happened it was like are you [TS]

01:06:01   two spoke about this but we recorded the [TS]

01:06:03   show in June writes very weird but yeah [TS]

01:06:06   PewDiePie is making his own game is [TS]

01:06:08   called tuba simulator i'm very excited [TS]

01:06:11   to play this because I bet is gonna be [TS]

01:06:13   hilarious [TS]

01:06:14   yeah right we spoke about this but not [TS]

01:06:17   this at all [TS]

01:06:18   we were talking about a different [TS]

01:06:19   youtube simulate [TS]

01:06:20   they're not pewdiepie simulator yep yeah [TS]

01:06:24   it's it's just it's a funny thing I [TS]

01:06:25   think he's I think he's put out some [TS]

01:06:27   other game before if I'm if I'm not yeah [TS]

01:06:30   you can get a an iOS game called legend [TS]

01:06:33   of the brofist ok pictures like an [TS]

01:06:36   action-adventure side-scrolling game [TS]

01:06:39   yeah I thought I will be curious to see [TS]

01:06:41   what he puts out with this and I don't [TS]

01:06:45   know why but I just I just have a [TS]

01:06:47   feeling like it might be ridiculous and [TS]

01:06:50   fun i i'm i'm basing this on nothing i [TS]

01:06:53   have no experience with this but it i [TS]

01:06:56   can totally imagine that after putting [TS]

01:06:59   together that first video that he did [TS]

01:07:02   what he was talking about YouTube [TS]

01:07:03   simulator which I still think is a [TS]

01:07:05   magnificent strange meta video [TS]

01:07:09   yep i can just imagine that this got [TS]

01:07:13   under his skin like I can see how this [TS]

01:07:15   would happen where he would keep [TS]

01:07:16   thinking about like how would i make a [TS]

01:07:18   youtube simulator and also he would do [TS]

01:07:22   any kind of return on investment [TS]

01:07:23   calculations like pewdiepie making a [TS]

01:07:26   YouTube simulator game that the gold [TS]

01:07:29   mine is no way if he puts effort into it [TS]

01:07:33   like that does not incredibly successful [TS]

01:07:35   so it would I can just see how it it [TS]

01:07:37   would be a thing that would be stuck in [TS]

01:07:39   his mind as an obvious project to do so [TS]

01:07:42   i'm going to be very curious to see what [TS]

01:07:44   this is when it comes out also like this [TS]

01:07:47   is not important and not really news but [TS]

01:07:50   since we talked about that and I watched [TS]

01:07:52   that video I've been watching quite a [TS]

01:07:54   lot of people by videos that was one [TS]

01:07:55   thing that stuck out to me when I listen [TS]

01:07:58   to the episode out of time to our timer [TS]

01:08:00   was referenced in there not really [TS]

01:08:03   watching very much PewDiePie and since [TS]

01:08:07   since watching that YouTube simulator 1 [TS]

01:08:11   i've ended up watching more and more of [TS]

01:08:13   his video [TS]

01:08:14   well I bet that what happened to you is [TS]

01:08:16   what happened to me is nothing getting [TS]

01:08:18   suggested to me exactly i watched a [TS]

01:08:21   couple of them and then I decided to [TS]

01:08:24   type of PewDiePie video I like the type [TS]

01:08:26   that I don't like who [TS]

01:08:28   and then I just started cherry picking [TS]

01:08:30   them out but I've been watching more and [TS]

01:08:32   more like [TS]

01:08:33   couple weeks at least he post like [TS]

01:08:36   everyday basically yeah this is this is [TS]

01:08:38   the power of the YouTube algorithm in [TS]

01:08:40   action is like he wants one cutie pie [TS]

01:08:42   video we're going to pick the most [TS]

01:08:45   probable ones that you will probably [TS]

01:08:47   like yeah that's the weird thing is [TS]

01:08:49   everyone is suggested i love to but then [TS]

01:08:51   when i started watching them all I [TS]

01:08:52   didn't like them all so much the [TS]

01:08:53   algorithm knows better than I do what I [TS]

01:08:56   want to watch and what I have learned is [TS]

01:08:58   I don't really have any interest in [TS]

01:09:00   watching his videos that are about video [TS]

01:09:03   games or him doing video game [TS]

01:09:04   playthroughs and I never realized that [TS]

01:09:07   he does a bunch of videos that our blog [TS]

01:09:10   like yeah I like stuff about his life [TS]

01:09:13   yeah i think those are those are really [TS]

01:09:15   well done those are interesting and it [TS]

01:09:17   just confirms to me what I always [TS]

01:09:19   suspect because PewDiePie ends up being [TS]

01:09:21   like the butt of jokes because he is the [TS]

01:09:24   number one youtuber but even even back [TS]

01:09:27   when I didn't watch him very much [TS]

01:09:29   I thought like well but you don't get to [TS]

01:09:30   be the number one person without being [TS]

01:09:32   good at what you're doing [TS]

01:09:34   even if it's not a thing that everybody [TS]

01:09:35   likes and and I feel like just doubly [TS]

01:09:38   confirmed in this of yes of course the [TS]

01:09:41   person who is the number one youtuber is [TS]

01:09:45   good at creating engaging content like [TS]

01:09:50   an EMP cuts together [TS]

01:09:52   vlogs and talking about his life or or [TS]

01:09:55   what's going on with him in a very funny [TS]

01:10:00   when he's he's very good at it [TS]

01:10:03   I mean he had this whole drama with [TS]

01:10:04   trying to get his diamond play button [TS]

01:10:07   that remember the videos that got me [TS]

01:10:08   sucked in [TS]

01:10:09   yeah and that those videos are hilarious [TS]

01:10:12   you need to put them in the show notes [TS]

01:10:13   Mike but of him like arguing with you [TS]

01:10:16   too many he's like bragging about all of [TS]

01:10:18   his subscribers in this very funny way I [TS]

01:10:21   he's he is just capable of producing [TS]

01:10:24   captivating video even if you don't want [TS]

01:10:27   to watch everything that he does and i [TS]

01:10:29   can see why lots of people wouldn't like [TS]

01:10:31   him but you don't get to be the number [TS]

01:10:33   one person just randomly and lots of [TS]

01:10:36   people always make jokes like oh he's [TS]

01:10:39   just an idiot who's making videos about [TS]

01:10:42   video games and just like dumb luck his [TS]

01:10:46   weight [TS]

01:10:47   number one like I think that's what lots [TS]

01:10:48   of people on the outside seem to think [TS]

01:10:50   it's like that that's not how this stuff [TS]

01:10:52   actually works on the inside like of [TS]

01:10:54   course he's talented he has to be missed [TS]

01:10:57   it's got the conversation is kind of [TS]

01:10:59   ridiculous in the way to like two old [TS]

01:11:01   men discover PewDiePie like this it's [TS]

01:11:04   kind of ridiculous but i will say [TS]

01:11:06   another video of his that I really [TS]

01:11:08   really loved was when he did a video [TS]

01:11:11   about when there was that youtube bug or [TS]

01:11:14   something that was clearing out [TS]

01:11:15   subscribers [TS]

01:11:16   no yeah it looks like 27,000 he was [TS]

01:11:18   going crazy and like demanding his [TS]

01:11:20   subscribers back from YouTube it was a [TS]

01:11:23   brilliant if you don't [TS]

01:11:25   in case you don't know this like you [TS]

01:11:27   might not know but PewDiePie has 47 [TS]

01:11:30   million 625,000 subscribers so that's [TS]

01:11:35   why 27,000 going missing is really funny [TS]

01:11:38   exactly because he got really upset [TS]

01:11:41   about it in the video right its end up [TS]

01:11:44   his stuff is is weird in places but [TS]

01:11:48   there is a lot to be enjoyed in there [TS]

01:11:50   that you know what I think he knows this [TS]

01:11:52   right i mean again obviously he does [TS]

01:11:55   super-smart make different kinds of [TS]

01:11:56   videos to different people [TS]

01:11:58   mmm yeah it's really interesting model I [TS]

01:12:01   I i see a lot of channels that try to do [TS]

01:12:04   a bunch of different videos and I think [TS]

01:12:05   that they often don't work but it seems [TS]

01:12:07   like he's able to pull it off really [TS]

01:12:09   well to have very different styles of [TS]

01:12:12   videos and to have the mix together on [TS]

01:12:14   his channel in in a in a seamless kind [TS]

01:12:17   of way words and and maybe this is again [TS]

01:12:19   the strength of the YouTube algorithm [TS]

01:12:21   that the YouTube algorithm seems to know [TS]

01:12:23   that I'm not super interested in [TS]

01:12:25   watching him play video games and [TS]

01:12:27   doesn't seem to suggest those videos to [TS]

01:12:28   me very much and mostly suggest more [TS]

01:12:31   vlog like videos to me this guy [TS]

01:12:33   PewDiePie's you've got really good [TS]

01:12:34   youtube video should go check them out [TS]

01:12:35   the sense of cortex love very exactly [TS]

01:12:39   help give this guy a good kick start [TS]

01:12:42   yeah this is this is the part where like [TS]

01:12:44   slowly and awkwardly spell out his name [TS]

01:12:47   for people [TS]

01:12:48   that's the reason he ewd IE p IE [TS]

01:12:52   PewDiePie go check amount [TS]

01:12:55   yeah kids really talented yep gonna get [TS]

01:12:58   going to go places this [TS]

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01:14:47   let's do a cat x square section we have [TS]

01:14:50   a carrot a question now it's care tex [TS]

01:14:52   isn't that what I said now you say / k [TS]

01:14:56   at the end [TS]

01:14:56   yeah caretech no that's cool attack as [TS]

01:14:59   the other one is that the other one [TS]

01:15:01   that's that's the technology one [TS]

01:15:03   yeah care tax is the caring one yeah [TS]

01:15:06   caretech no let's do it ok up i think [TS]

01:15:10   actually use it should we get people to [TS]

01:15:11   send them with the hashtag care tax [TS]

01:15:14   now my cute now now don't do this Mike [TS]

01:15:16   guy trying to get this too complicated i [TS]

01:15:18   try to make this way too complicated [TS]

01:15:19   let's just do court hashtag has cortex [TS]

01:15:23   for a second i totally forgot about it [TS]

01:15:25   it's haha i'm just a bit rusty [TS]

01:15:30   yeah it's been awhile you can remember [TS]

01:15:32   all the names you give like court xmas [TS]

01:15:34   anything else and it all goes out the [TS]

01:15:36   window [TS]

01:15:37   Evercore is my favorite elephant but [TS]

01:15:39   call wrote in with his hashtag care text [TS]

01:15:42   question no I shouldn't do that however [TS]

01:15:44   tell now I can amass the people up i [TS]

01:15:47   read it wrong call wrote in and said i'm [TS]

01:15:49   currently working on some side projects [TS]

01:15:51   but i'm not making any money from them i [TS]

01:15:53   just graduated from college but my [TS]

01:15:55   degree doesn't relate to what I'm doing [TS]

01:15:57   with my side stuff [TS]

01:15:59   should I go and get a high-paying job [TS]

01:16:01   that relates to my degree then quit when [TS]

01:16:04   I able to make money from my side [TS]

01:16:05   projects or should I just get a simple [TS]

01:16:08   job at McDonald's to get me through and [TS]

01:16:11   work on my side stuff who is very [TS]

01:16:15   interesting question we is the answer is [TS]

01:16:20   kind of unclear so to kind of boil this [TS]

01:16:24   down to the essence right call has a [TS]

01:16:26   thing that he likes to do that thing has [TS]

01:16:28   nothing at all to do with the degree [TS]

01:16:30   that you spent years get that degree can [TS]

01:16:34   get a good job who but it's not what he [TS]

01:16:36   wants to do what he wants to do is what [TS]

01:16:38   you doing on the side so do you ever get [TS]

01:16:40   a high-paying job which probably also [TS]

01:16:43   means high stress and time job or get a [TS]

01:16:45   simple job so you haven't got anything [TS]

01:16:47   to worry about and intricate work on [TS]

01:16:50   your side stuff that's how I look at [TS]

01:16:54   this question because there's some [TS]

01:16:56   trade-offs here you know your stress and [TS]

01:16:58   time and money they're big factors in [TS]

01:17:01   these two and deciding where you want to [TS]

01:17:04   sit on either side of those problems [TS]

01:17:06   yeah what are you going to do while [TS]

01:17:10   you're supporting yourself working on [TS]

01:17:14   your side projects [TS]

01:17:16   now I actually one point sort of face [TS]

01:17:23   this question not in quite the same way [TS]

01:17:27   but we mentioned a couple shows ago [TS]

01:17:29   about how I was a teacher and then took [TS]

01:17:32   a break for a while I was trying to get [TS]

01:17:34   side stuff spun up it didn't work out [TS]

01:17:36   the first time and then I had to go back [TS]

01:17:38   to teaching but it at that point my wife [TS]

01:17:42   and I did have a few discussions about [TS]

01:17:44   essential essentially this like you have [TS]

01:17:46   no money we need some money but Dewey [TS]

01:17:49   like should I just get a simple job or [TS]

01:17:53   should i go back into teaching like [TS]

01:17:55   which way should I go about it and I [TS]

01:17:58   went back into teaching and i feel like [TS]

01:18:01   my gut response as always a little bit [TS]

01:18:04   tricky when you don't know the exact [TS]

01:18:05   details like what is the college degree [TS]

01:18:08   what are the side projects but my gut [TS]

01:18:11   feeling is I would say go for the high [TS]

01:18:15   paying job that relates to the degree [TS]

01:18:18   and I have a couple reasons for this [TS]

01:18:24   the first is I think it's probably easy [TS]

01:18:28   to underestimate how taxing like a [TS]

01:18:33   simple job would be i think it's it's [TS]

01:18:38   easy to think like oh it's it's a thing [TS]

01:18:41   that's not necessarily going to take a [TS]

01:18:43   lot of my mental time but i think i [TS]

01:18:47   think any job is going to be big blocks [TS]

01:18:49   out of your life [TS]

01:18:50   yeah but if you're walking in a [TS]

01:18:54   high-stress job you're probably taking [TS]

01:18:56   work home with you in your brain [TS]

01:18:58   Lou if you're working in mcdonalds I [TS]

01:19:00   don't know if you do that yet that is [TS]

01:19:02   that is definitely the advantage of [TS]

01:19:04   mcdonalds there might still be things [TS]

01:19:06   that play on your mind right like [TS]

01:19:08   company politics are still there but I [TS]

01:19:11   don't think you're going home and [TS]

01:19:12   worrying about the deadline on the [TS]

01:19:14   project [TS]

01:19:15   yeah that is without a doubt true that [TS]

01:19:18   the the advantage of a simple job is [TS]

01:19:20   that you leave this simple job at work [TS]

01:19:22   and everyone I know who has worked those [TS]

01:19:25   kind of jobs has said that [TS]

01:19:27   it is the best part you work as a [TS]

01:19:29   barista at starbucks and when you come [TS]

01:19:30   home [TS]

01:19:31   that's it it's just over you don't have [TS]

01:19:34   to keep thinking about it and your time [TS]

01:19:35   is probably fixed as well you don't stay [TS]

01:19:38   late to get the project done so much and [TS]

01:19:40   i think yet you don't [TS]

01:19:42   that is also true that is also true the [TS]

01:19:46   other thing though [TS]

01:19:47   again this is it's not a simple thing to [TS]

01:19:50   decide between but my feeling about the [TS]

01:19:53   high-paying job is I feel like there are [TS]

01:19:57   more potential advantages there [TS]

01:20:03   one of one of which is possible you can [TS]

01:20:05   save more money so that you can leave it [TS]

01:20:09   with a bit of buffer sooner if one of [TS]

01:20:10   the project seems like it's paying off [TS]

01:20:12   one of your side projects [TS]

01:20:14   the other thing is i also just without [TS]

01:20:18   knowing the details of the job i just i [TS]

01:20:22   think that there is the possibility that [TS]

01:20:24   a more complicated job of picking up [TS]

01:20:27   skills that might be useful in the [TS]

01:20:30   future whereas a simple job that is [TS]

01:20:33   probably not going to happen so I don't [TS]

01:20:36   know my my gut feeling would be take the [TS]

01:20:39   high-paying job and I would do side [TS]

01:20:43   projects in the morning with the best [TS]

01:20:46   part of your brain and then go to that [TS]

01:20:49   job that's what I would think but it [TS]

01:20:52   feels like Mike you're on the other side [TS]

01:20:53   of this I feel like I definitely was [TS]

01:20:56   until you mentioned the skills part [TS]

01:20:58   that's a really good point i hadn't [TS]

01:21:01   properly considered because when i think [TS]

01:21:03   about my abilities to talk to in deal [TS]

01:21:05   with businesses now that came from [TS]

01:21:07   working in a corporation my wouldn't [TS]

01:21:10   know that language to use the [TS]

01:21:12   terminology to use or know any of that [TS]

01:21:14   stuff I could stab at it [TS]

01:21:17   the reason that i could probably live in [TS]

01:21:18   a corporation was because I had had a [TS]

01:21:22   good handle on just communicate with [TS]

01:21:23   people anyway but it's more forgivable [TS]

01:21:26   if I get something wrong once in a [TS]

01:21:28   company because I might just upset [TS]

01:21:30   someone but whatever but if i upset [TS]

01:21:31   someone will do something wrong in the [TS]

01:21:34   business then that person might never [TS]

01:21:36   working again [TS]

01:21:37   exactly there are worse consequences and [TS]

01:21:39   exactly and and this is a skill that at [TS]

01:21:42   least in my observation of your working [TS]

01:21:47   life is an incredibly valuable skill [TS]

01:21:49   that you have you know that that even [TS]

01:21:53   though the listeners here the public [TS]

01:21:55   side of you which is on the podcast like [TS]

01:21:58   an enormous amount of stuff is behind [TS]

01:22:00   the scenes stuff working with sponsors [TS]

01:22:02   working with companies and you do have [TS]

01:22:04   you do have these skills of talking to [TS]

01:22:07   companies that to me seemed like magic [TS]

01:22:11   incantations the g you know the words to [TS]

01:22:14   say to make things easier for the person [TS]

01:22:17   on the other end or to help get stuff [TS]

01:22:19   done and that's an example of a skill [TS]

01:22:21   that you learned on the job and so I [TS]

01:22:26   mean look at the other the other flip [TS]

01:22:29   side of this that is the unpleasant [TS]

01:22:31   thing to think about is also the [TS]

01:22:34   possibility of failure right side [TS]

01:22:37   projects might never go anywhere if you [TS]

01:22:40   have a bunch of side projects you're [TS]

01:22:42   increasing your odds of success but you [TS]

01:22:45   can just be unlucky and have a string of [TS]

01:22:48   side projects and none of them ever pans [TS]

01:22:50   out all the ones you're working on right [TS]

01:22:52   now one work that's something later that [TS]

01:22:55   will but you'll be more tomorrow eyes [TS]

01:22:58   when you feel like you wasted your time [TS]

01:23:00   of a simple job that's a possibility as [TS]

01:23:03   well so I I view the like risk/reward [TS]

01:23:07   balance here that the high-paying job [TS]

01:23:11   related to the degree is the way that I [TS]

01:23:14   would go you can possibly Marshall more [TS]

01:23:19   resources save more money as you're [TS]

01:23:22   going along in the high-paying job it is [TS]

01:23:25   more probable that you will learn skills [TS]

01:23:27   that might be useful later on or that [TS]

01:23:32   you'll simply in the process of doing [TS]

01:23:34   that [TS]

01:23:35   come across something and actually [TS]

01:23:39   thinking about this just like you know [TS]

01:23:41   you you had the skill of talking with [TS]

01:23:45   businesses i think when i was working as [TS]

01:23:48   a teacher like I definitely refined my [TS]

01:23:51   ability of the [TS]

01:23:52   explaining thing oh yeah that's why you [TS]

01:23:55   can't change people think that's that's [TS]

01:23:58   a thing that I got better at by doing [TS]

01:24:01   that and if I had taken a job as a [TS]

01:24:04   barista for those last two years when I [TS]

01:24:08   was doing side project that eventually [TS]

01:24:09   turned into youtube like I'm not sure [TS]

01:24:12   would have been the same effect you [TS]

01:24:15   might make some really good coffee [TS]

01:24:16   videos though I might have made some [TS]

01:24:19   really good coffee videos this is true [TS]

01:24:20   there is one thing about the money [TS]

01:24:22   though who the more money you make from [TS]

01:24:26   your job the more money you have to make [TS]

01:24:29   from the side project this is the this [TS]

01:24:32   is the main downside is not only that [TS]

01:24:35   but there's a certain amount of i'm [TS]

01:24:39   going to say possibility of complacency [TS]

01:24:42   yep with the high-paying job that you're [TS]

01:24:45   right you your side projects have to be [TS]

01:24:47   more successful before you feel like [TS]

01:24:50   you're going to want to leave them [TS]

01:24:51   because we're again getting into loss [TS]

01:24:54   aversion territory here that if you have [TS]

01:24:56   a good salary and you have a side [TS]

01:24:58   project that starts making money you're [TS]

01:25:01   going to be hesitant to give up that [TS]

01:25:03   good salary to dedicate more time to the [TS]

01:25:06   side project and as a person who is [TS]

01:25:07   clearly very motivated who a simple job [TS]

01:25:11   my drive me crazy [TS]

01:25:12   it is also very possible that you will [TS]

01:25:15   go crazy in a simple job call i don't [TS]

01:25:18   think we have a good answer for you [TS]

01:25:20   I think I do have a good answer and that [TS]

01:25:21   answer is to take the high-paying job I [TS]

01:25:23   think risk rewarding it thinking about [TS]

01:25:25   it thinking about the possible outcomes [TS]

01:25:27   I feel very strongly that my advice is [TS]

01:25:29   the high-paying job well refinance a [TS]

01:25:31   clear i don't think the answer is clear [TS]

01:25:33   I think there's a lot of caveats think [TS]

01:25:36   I'm think I'm leaning towards the only [TS]

01:25:38   thing i know right which is I didn't [TS]

01:25:41   have a very high paying job that is [TS]

01:25:43   professional position it was a [TS]

01:25:44   high-stress job who there are a lot of [TS]

01:25:46   problems of that you need to go into [TS]

01:25:48   this job if you take it [TS]

01:25:50   setting some boundaries for yourself [TS]

01:25:52   about how long you're willing to work [TS]

01:25:55   out how much you're going to let it [TS]

01:25:57   affect your life and you need to try and [TS]

01:25:58   keep those things in clear mind and also [TS]

01:26:03   if you're starting the job save [TS]

01:26:06   immediately cut down the amount of money [TS]

01:26:09   that you're living on immediately put [TS]

01:26:13   that like work out the minimum amount [TS]

01:26:15   and live to that I think both me and [TS]

01:26:17   great didn't do this and it made it [TS]

01:26:19   harder for us but if you're starting [TS]

01:26:21   from step 0 from college money who live [TS]

01:26:26   frugally you can save money so you'll be [TS]

01:26:30   able to support yourself later and then [TS]

01:26:32   you won't need to make as much money [TS]

01:26:33   from the side roles i give this advice [TS]

01:26:36   to anyone who is in college right now [TS]

01:26:38   getting ready to take their first job [TS]

01:26:41   but they have this thing that they want [TS]

01:26:42   to do save money save it [TS]

01:26:48   yes and and keep living cheaply [TS]

01:26:52   yeah it's like you are more used to that [TS]

01:26:54   and it is it is easier to just continue [TS]

01:26:56   definitely definitely do that [TS]

01:27:00   good luck all good luck all take the [TS]

01:27:04   bank job but again [TS]