Cortex 41: Spiralling


00:00:00   ready set go [TS]

00:00:05   we do now why is that funny to you [TS]

00:00:10   well I would you say ready set go I'm [TS]

00:00:13   telling me that it's it's time to do the [TS]

00:00:15   show [TS]

00:00:16   that's what I'm doing d usually mute [TS]

00:00:18   yourself when you say that I don't [TS]

00:00:19   usually don't usually say it but no you [TS]

00:00:21   go into mental marker that ok now the [TS]

00:00:24   show is beginning like it don't you [TS]

00:00:27   I don't need to say ready set go to [TS]

00:00:29   myself no I don't need that [TS]

00:00:30   okay well you're better podcaster than I [TS]

00:00:33   am [TS]

00:00:34   on your marks yeah mark get set go all [TS]

00:00:40   right Mike [TS]

00:00:41   where is my my curly vlog well I thought [TS]

00:00:45   that I thought these things were up on [TS]

00:00:47   sundays i understand from you from you [TS]

00:00:50   of all people the incredible importance [TS]

00:00:52   of schedules yet there was there was no [TS]

00:00:54   blog this weekend [TS]

00:00:55   I cannot believe that you're the first [TS]

00:00:57   person to say this to me like of [TS]

00:00:59   everyone in the world to ask where's the [TS]

00:01:02   vlog I think I'd really didn't think it [TS]

00:01:04   would be mister mister schedule over [TS]

00:01:06   there [TS]

00:01:07   well here's here's the reason I'm asking [TS]

00:01:09   it's your fault for setting up these [TS]

00:01:10   expectations but it's that they're on a [TS]

00:01:12   regular basis [TS]

00:01:14   I know you said you said that you had [TS]

00:01:15   like your little get-out-of-jail-free [TS]

00:01:16   phrase whatever it was you're like oh [TS]

00:01:18   frequent but not something i don't even [TS]

00:01:22   remember what it was that you said you [TS]

00:01:23   know then you go ahead and upload at [TS]

00:01:25   like the same time on the same day for [TS]

00:01:27   four weeks in a row and so now you've [TS]

00:01:30   set a schedule and so now you have [TS]

00:01:32   failed to meet my expectations and I'm [TS]

00:01:33   disappointed the uploading on the [TS]

00:01:35   Sunday's was just because the only time [TS]

00:01:37   i had to work on the videos was the [TS]

00:01:39   weekend right it was like what is done [TS]

00:01:40   by sunday because now i'm going to get [TS]

00:01:42   to back to work on Monday which is fun [TS]

00:01:44   actually because it makes it feel more [TS]

00:01:46   like a side project in a weird way like [TS]

00:01:48   I'm stealing like my weekend evening [TS]

00:01:50   hours to do it right but no i haven't [TS]

00:01:53   done one this week because we finally [TS]

00:01:56   have the keys to the house [TS]

00:01:58   hey we have we have the key to cortex [TS]

00:02:01   cottage [TS]

00:02:02   wow that was that was a hell of a Zeno's [TS]

00:02:07   paradox getting closer and closer to [TS]

00:02:09   those keys from my messages that you [TS]

00:02:12   were sending me all [TS]

00:02:12   yeah it was always like it's two months [TS]

00:02:15   away right and then two months pass and [TS]

00:02:17   it's it's one month away than one month [TS]

00:02:19   passes and you lose two weeks way like [TS]

00:02:22   we're getting closer but not right that [TS]

00:02:24   was that was my experience watching you [TS]

00:02:26   go through this i just had this like [TS]

00:02:28   mental image of the estate agent was [TS]

00:02:31   handed me the keys and they would drop [TS]

00:02:33   the keys and then every time I went to [TS]

00:02:36   pick up the key so I kicked them this [TS]

00:02:39   was like the way my brain there is [TS]

00:02:41   Persephone is it just every now and then [TS]

00:02:44   I'd been outside of just kicked it away [TS]

00:02:46   again and it just you know further and [TS]

00:02:48   further but we finally have the keys [TS]

00:02:50   wow that is that is exciting so are we [TS]

00:02:52   recording from mega office right now [TS]

00:02:53   we were supposed to be 0 because we were [TS]

00:02:57   supposed to record like three days ago [TS]

00:02:59   uh-huh but i have spent the week with [TS]

00:03:03   contractors and then the contractors [TS]

00:03:06   needed more contractors who needed more [TS]

00:03:08   contractors who needed lots of [TS]

00:03:09   contractors [TS]

00:03:10   yeah it just kept going and going and [TS]

00:03:12   going there was an apprentice at one [TS]

00:03:14   point i'm being totally serious [TS]

00:03:15   oh god that's not what you want to hear [TS]

00:03:17   right it's like subcontractors all the [TS]

00:03:19   way down [TS]

00:03:20   fine i understand this you know this is [TS]

00:03:22   how you how you build things and you [TS]

00:03:24   know why build one when you can build [TS]

00:03:25   two for twice the price but you don't [TS]

00:03:28   want the apprentice the apprentice feels [TS]

00:03:30   a bit like I don't know anymore [TS]

00:03:32   looks like your situation so bad [TS]

00:03:34   somebody can learn from it [TS]

00:03:35   yeah it's actually i was i was just was [TS]

00:03:41   just in the in the doctor's office and [TS]

00:03:43   they there was a big sign up saying that [TS]

00:03:44   there wasn't a not an apprentice but [TS]

00:03:46   like a trainee but it might as well have [TS]

00:03:47   said like we have the magician's [TS]

00:03:48   apprentice today [TS]

00:03:49   yeah and because like i don't know how i [TS]

00:03:51   feel about this also as well like I [TS]

00:03:54   completely have faith in the plumbers [TS]

00:03:58   that we haven't but every now and then [TS]

00:03:59   when I walk around the corner and the [TS]

00:04:01   apprentice putting the pipes in also can [TS]

00:04:04   you just not like switch over every time [TS]

00:04:06   you hear the door open right so like I [TS]

00:04:08   only see the fully-qualified plumber put [TS]

00:04:11   my pipes in is that ok can we do that [TS]

00:04:13   please yeah even though like she glue [TS]

00:04:16   she knew what she was doing at one point [TS]

00:04:18   of time according to had a blowtorch and [TS]

00:04:19   I was like your heart a lot better [TS]

00:04:22   everything that I am but you're handling [TS]

00:04:24   a blowtorch right now and [TS]

00:04:25   not really sure why but good luck to you [TS]

00:04:27   so it has been a tough week i had an [TS]

00:04:32   entire set of equipment ready including [TS]

00:04:35   a macbook adorable which is probably the [TS]

00:04:38   best computer in the world [TS]

00:04:40   oh that doesn't run iOS of course [TS]

00:04:43   because we know the ipad to get king but [TS]

00:04:45   that thing is it's incredible it's it's [TS]

00:04:48   like barely a computer is this is [TS]

00:04:50   nothing there is amazing i love it I [TS]

00:04:52   love it [TS]

00:04:53   wow what a convert I couldn't believe it [TS]

00:04:55   I had it for like a day and then I added [TS]

00:04:57   a show on it and it was fine [TS]

00:04:59   who's absolutely fine and it also weighs [TS]

00:05:02   nothing [TS]

00:05:03   yes I get that it's the nothing is [TS]

00:05:06   computer you can possibly own it's [TS]

00:05:07   incredible and it's gold of course of [TS]

00:05:11   course we got a gold one and it has [TS]

00:05:12   stickers on it and it looks incredible [TS]

00:05:14   already so I had all this equipment [TS]

00:05:16   ready to record from there and it was [TS]

00:05:18   gonna be this like funny episode where [TS]

00:05:20   is like all this echo and like I'm [TS]

00:05:21   sitting on the floor button but no we [TS]

00:05:23   couldn't do it because the situation [TS]

00:05:25   kept getting worse and worse and I was [TS]

00:05:28   there for two straight days in a room on [TS]

00:05:30   a chair with a little table in front of [TS]

00:05:33   me that have been left from the previous [TS]

00:05:35   people on my own with just things [TS]

00:05:38   happening around me for two straight [TS]

00:05:40   days so just contractors coming in the [TS]

00:05:43   Apple painting [TS]

00:05:44   yep and then have electricity hums [TS]

00:05:46   however as pipes were falling out the [TS]

00:05:48   wall and it you know it just [TS]

00:05:49   everything's fine and it's good now it [TS]

00:05:53   was not good for a while but like it's [TS]

00:05:56   ok now but it's just meant that this [TS]

00:05:58   week has been an absolute disaster [TS]

00:06:00   yeah justjust that the listeners [TS]

00:06:01   understand when mike says pipes were [TS]

00:06:03   falling out of the wall that is not an [TS]

00:06:05   exaggeration [TS]

00:06:06   there was a situation where a pipe [TS]

00:06:08   literally fell out of a wall [TS]

00:06:10   yeah it did that one hundred percent [TS]

00:06:11   happened he just touched it and it fell [TS]

00:06:15   off so it's been it's been a week so far [TS]

00:06:20   like it's what day is it today is [TS]

00:06:22   Thursday Wednesday Thursday Thursday [TS]

00:06:24   today it feels like it's next wednesday [TS]

00:06:26   right I i thought like it's weird in a [TS]

00:06:30   way like the buying process was it was a [TS]

00:06:32   time suck but it was completely [TS]

00:06:35   different to this one because the buying [TS]

00:06:36   process was short bursts of my [TS]

00:06:38   I'm spread out over an incredibly long [TS]

00:06:40   period who little this this part with [TS]

00:06:43   like the getting the house ready is [TS]

00:06:45   intensely long periods of time [TS]

00:06:48   who over two days it's felt way worse [TS]

00:06:50   that way because I've I've lot like [TS]

00:06:52   completely lost multiple days of work [TS]

00:06:55   but it's nearly there and not in the way [TS]

00:06:58   of like the house buying process nearly [TS]

00:07:00   there because all of the bad stuff is [TS]

00:07:04   taken care of now [TS]

00:07:05   yeah see the thing is though I like I [TS]

00:07:07   don't even want to jinx it by saying [TS]

00:07:08   when do you think you're going to be [TS]

00:07:09   moved in but it's just like but you [TS]

00:07:12   never this you're still you are still [TS]

00:07:14   deep in unknown unknown territory here [TS]

00:07:18   right like you think all of the bad [TS]

00:07:20   stuff is over but now that you are [TS]

00:07:23   actually in the house you'll find out if [TS]

00:07:25   that's true that there is a thing we [TS]

00:07:28   will be moved in [TS]

00:07:30   give or take him for weeks because we [TS]

00:07:33   had no choice we have to leave this [TS]

00:07:35   house so okay [TS]

00:07:37   the house may not be ready but ok but we [TS]

00:07:40   can't be here anymore so we're going to [TS]

00:07:42   be ejected from your current location [TS]

00:07:43   and then you need to land somewhere so [TS]

00:07:46   you will be in the house and four weeks [TS]

00:07:47   exactly because the house i'm sitting in [TS]

00:07:50   right now has been sold [TS]

00:07:52   okay i don't think they will want us to [TS]

00:07:55   be here [TS]

00:07:55   no probably not probably not the new [TS]

00:07:59   owners will not want you there [TS]

00:08:00   no they can't you see I'm recording in [TS]

00:08:02   here get out you need to be really quiet [TS]

00:08:05   I don't care that this is your bedroom I [TS]

00:08:07   don't care just get out of here so that [TS]

00:08:09   is the current situation [TS]

00:08:11   it has been a hellacious and relatively [TS]

00:08:14   expensive week let me so far [TS]

00:08:17   which brings us to our next item on the [TS]

00:08:20   agenda today we have a new t-shirt for [TS]

00:08:23   sale [TS]

00:08:24   we're bringing back the monkey brain [TS]

00:08:26   haha that this is a t-shirt design that [TS]

00:08:30   many people have asked for [TS]

00:08:31   so we are bringing it back and it's [TS]

00:08:33   currently on sale for three weeks [TS]

00:08:36   it is a limited edition variation of the [TS]

00:08:39   monkey brain shot and we have take we [TS]

00:08:41   have rejected him from the circle that [TS]

00:08:42   he was once contained in and he is now [TS]

00:08:45   adorned on the just of the shirt in [TS]

00:08:47   monkey brain glory and we have we have a [TS]

00:08:50   working title for the shirt [TS]

00:08:52   called the cortex collagen tradition [TS]

00:08:54   monkey brain t-shirt but you have to [TS]

00:08:57   understand listeners like really has [TS]

00:09:00   bought a house [TS]

00:09:01   yep and really does have expenses that [TS]

00:09:05   need to be covered [TS]

00:09:07   it's like you to do I mind my own [TS]

00:09:09   business i get messages from mike about [TS]

00:09:11   like time for a t-shirt I go why and [TS]

00:09:14   then I hear a long story about a boiler [TS]

00:09:16   that ends in total horror right total [TS]

00:09:20   horror and large unexpected expense and [TS]

00:09:23   so I said yes Mike I think not only not [TS]

00:09:27   only do we need to have a t-shirt but i [TS]

00:09:29   think that this t-shirt really does need [TS]

00:09:31   to be dedicated to the cortex cottage to [TS]

00:09:34   Mike's new house and solving some [TS]

00:09:36   serious problems for him so please [TS]

00:09:38   listeners and you should really buy one [TS]

00:09:41   of these for Mike now I want to make [TS]

00:09:44   something super clear [TS]

00:09:45   uh-huh if nobody bought this t-shirt I [TS]

00:09:49   would be okay right [TS]

00:09:51   we would be fine but if everyone places [TS]

00:09:53   t-shirt [TS]

00:09:54   I'm in a much better situation if it's [TS]

00:09:56   not like Mike loses the house if you [TS]

00:09:57   don't buy the t-shirt but Mike will feel [TS]

00:10:00   a lot better if you do we had some [TS]

00:10:02   severely unexpected costs and and if [TS]

00:10:06   they are able to be covered that would [TS]

00:10:09   be brilliant [TS]

00:10:10   that would be very nice it would make me [TS]

00:10:12   super happy [TS]

00:10:13   so we've made a really nice t-shirt and [TS]

00:10:16   there is a a a house icon on the back of [TS]

00:10:19   it and very tiny so you know that you [TS]

00:10:21   have supported cortex cottage there is [TS]

00:10:24   distribution from the US and from the EU [TS]

00:10:26   we have very very nice [TS]

00:10:29   yep so people can choose in the past [TS]

00:10:32   we've he done like you hit one Lincoln [TS]

00:10:33   you get taken to whichever country [TS]

00:10:35   around we're doing slightly differently [TS]

00:10:37   this time because they're different [TS]

00:10:38   colors available to us in the US and the [TS]

00:10:40   EU so i'm going to put both links in [TS]

00:10:44   take a look [TS]

00:10:45   choose what college you like see how the [TS]

00:10:46   pricing works out for you and you can [TS]

00:10:48   choose what you want is because the [TS]

00:10:49   supply that we have they have different [TS]

00:10:51   colors available so go take a look see [TS]

00:10:54   which ones you like and buy as many as [TS]

00:10:57   you can [TS]

00:10:59   seriously I want to just point out i'm [TS]

00:11:05   fine i'm totally fine we are fine but if [TS]

00:11:08   you buy a t-shirt i would really [TS]

00:11:10   appreciate it I do like that sales pitch [TS]

00:11:13   of drive it like you're not necessarily [TS]

00:11:15   going for breath there you're going for [TS]

00:11:17   death like if you're buying a t-shirt [TS]

00:11:18   maybe you should consider seven yeah [TS]

00:11:20   that's that's four colors right [TS]

00:11:23   choose two of them right there are there [TS]

00:11:25   are four colors and yes it really it [TS]

00:11:27   really is dedicated to mikes house i [TS]

00:11:30   really do like the little little design [TS]

00:11:32   on the back of the shirt that has a tiny [TS]

00:11:35   little house along with the the sort of [TS]

00:11:37   the serial number and a bit of the [TS]

00:11:38   redundant t-shirt moti from before so I [TS]

00:11:41   think it looks great and I think it [TS]

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00:14:03   way to cook earlier on your complaining [TS]

00:14:06   about the fact that i have employer in a [TS]

00:14:08   video yeah you've got me covered because [TS]

00:14:11   you can't stop you're a kid [TS]

00:14:13   no that's not how this works I think the [TS]

00:14:15   install you are an out-of-character [TS]

00:14:17   abundance of videos recently am I though [TS]

00:14:22   yeah but you are could you you posted [TS]

00:14:24   like a million videos across your [TS]

00:14:25   various channels what have you done [TS]

00:14:27   nothing can look now [TS]

00:14:28   no it see what we got okay look I know [TS]

00:14:31   people say this i know people say this [TS]

00:14:33   and I think it's part of the joke people [TS]

00:14:35   have to be like oh look cgpgrey is [TS]

00:14:37   uploading a bunch of videos even even [TS]

00:14:41   weirdly youtube trends got in on this [TS]

00:14:43   joke which I thought was kind of funny [TS]

00:14:45   really [TS]

00:14:46   yeah you see I don't know I don't know [TS]

00:14:47   if you are aware of this but if I don't [TS]

00:14:50   think it's not on the main site but if [TS]

00:14:51   you open up YouTube on the app yeah [TS]

00:14:54   there's the trending videos section and [TS]

00:14:57   I always kind of wondered about the [TS]

00:14:58   details of this process but some of the [TS]

00:15:00   videos have an editorial comment below [TS]

00:15:04   them like presumably I have no idea but [TS]

00:15:08   presumably there's someone at YouTube [TS]

00:15:11   who is vetting what goes on the trending [TS]

00:15:14   page to make sure that they don't end up [TS]

00:15:16   with something terrible on and that's [TS]

00:15:17   kind of my guess is probably what [TS]

00:15:18   they're up to and part of that process [TS]

00:15:21   is a key [TS]

00:15:22   usually like there's an editorial [TS]

00:15:24   comment below the trending video and [TS]

00:15:26   when I released one of the electoral [TS]

00:15:28   college ones the second one or something [TS]

00:15:30   that there was a little comment which [TS]

00:15:31   said like cgpgrey unusually releases to [TS]

00:15:35   videos in a week about the electoral [TS]

00:15:36   college it's like okay I guess even the [TS]

00:15:41   structure of YouTube wants to get in on [TS]

00:15:43   the gag that cgpgrey never releases with [TS]

00:15:45   you is very frequently so happy thanks [TS]

00:15:47   whoever that editor was but I still [TS]

00:15:49   maintain that this totally doesn't count [TS]

00:15:53   because as far as i'm concerned i [TS]

00:15:56   released like one-and-a-half real videos [TS]

00:16:02   i released the rules for rulers video [TS]

00:16:04   and then the follow-up with the death [TS]

00:16:08   and dynasties video that was whatever it [TS]

00:16:10   was I think maybe eight days 10 days [TS]

00:16:12   later something like that [TS]

00:16:14   I view that as like one-and-a-half [TS]

00:16:16   videos and then I released a bunch of [TS]

00:16:18   nonsense and your short things and that [TS]

00:16:21   like those are not those are not videos [TS]

00:16:23   I don't think those count as actual [TS]

00:16:25   video releases or anything but everybody [TS]

00:16:28   likes to joke about them so I want to [TS]

00:16:30   just just countless up here you released [TS]

00:16:33   a video of a dog in the park [TS]

00:16:36   I don't even know why you did that like [TS]

00:16:38   iconic whose is that your daughter's dog [TS]

00:16:40   is anyway roles for rollers deaf and [TS]

00:16:44   dynasties an updated version of the [TS]

00:16:46   trouble of the electoral college read [TS]

00:16:48   the trouble with the Electoral College [TS]

00:16:49   cities and then it cuts off a can see [TS]

00:16:51   from where I am right now and then also [TS]

00:16:54   a video about an apple book which is a [TS]

00:16:56   whole other can of worms [TS]

00:16:58   yeah this is a lot this is a lot for you [TS]

00:17:01   gray this is I mean I know the psycho is [TS]

00:17:04   the final video to help video this is [TS]

00:17:06   like six youtube videos in a month right [TS]

00:17:11   ok it's just it's strange it's just [TS]

00:17:13   strange to see you be so prolific if [TS]

00:17:16   you've clearly there's been a few things [TS]

00:17:18   that you've got a lot to say about [TS]

00:17:19   recently [TS]

00:17:21   well if you know it's been a it's been a [TS]

00:17:22   strange time but I will stand by my [TS]

00:17:25   remark that a I think like a 19 second [TS]

00:17:29   clip of a dog chasing some parakeets in [TS]

00:17:31   a park does not count as a video and i [TS]

00:17:33   think a [TS]

00:17:35   18 seconds comment that just changes the [TS]

00:17:38   number from a previous video does not [TS]

00:17:39   count as a video so I i I'm firmly [TS]

00:17:43   standing by that notion that I've [TS]

00:17:45   actually released one-and-a-half videos [TS]

00:17:47   over this length of time [TS]

00:17:48   sure the that dog video I think I [TS]

00:17:51   recognize a piece of hardware used to [TS]

00:17:53   make that video i would do you I do [TS]

00:17:56   yeah and I know is that in another video [TS]

00:17:58   that you tweeted you bought the Ozma [TS]

00:17:59   didn't yes i did i was i was actually [TS]

00:18:02   wondering if you were going to notice [TS]

00:18:03   that all i know is that I've just wait [TS]

00:18:05   until now to tell you that you will so [TS]

00:18:07   you tweeted a video of you walking in a [TS]

00:18:09   park [TS]

00:18:09   I think the who I don't know I I thought [TS]

00:18:11   when you have with the dog video that [TS]

00:18:13   you bought it with the walking in the [TS]

00:18:16   park and 100 percentile case anybody [TS]

00:18:18   doesn't know this is a like a gimbal [TS]

00:18:21   like a Steadicam type thing you put your [TS]

00:18:23   phone into i bought one and shoot some [TS]

00:18:25   my blog footage on it and i know that [TS]

00:18:27   some of the footage that I showed you [TS]

00:18:28   when we're all you were very excited [TS]

00:18:31   about it so i can see I can see that you [TS]

00:18:33   bought it why did you get that you just [TS]

00:18:35   interested [TS]

00:18:36   yeah I guess we hope we haven't talked [TS]

00:18:38   about that gamble on the show I think no [TS]

00:18:40   don't think we have ok it's ok so first [TS]

00:18:44   anyone who's not aware a gimbal is [TS]

00:18:46   essentially like a little handheld [TS]

00:18:47   stabilizer yeah and there are a bunch of [TS]

00:18:51   them that are used specifically with [TS]

00:18:53   phones so while something like the [TS]

00:18:55   iphone has video stabilization built [TS]

00:18:57   into it there they they are these [TS]

00:19:00   devices which will mean it's so cool to [TS]

00:19:03   see them in operation that they do their [TS]

00:19:05   best job to hold the phone in the same [TS]

00:19:08   location in space as you're walking [TS]

00:19:10   around and it's it's it's very [TS]

00:19:13   interesting to see how this little [TS]

00:19:14   mechanical arm counteracts however you [TS]

00:19:17   move it and the result is that you can [TS]

00:19:19   get some really fantastic looking [TS]

00:19:21   footage if you know what you're doing [TS]

00:19:23   with it and the company that makes this [TS]

00:19:24   one is called the Osmo mobile is DJ I [TS]

00:19:27   which is the company that also makes all [TS]

00:19:29   the best drums [TS]

00:19:30   mmm i forget that they're the drone [TS]

00:19:32   company to they make the Phantom and the [TS]

00:19:35   Maverick and inspire they make all of [TS]

00:19:37   those i have had had this on my mind for [TS]

00:19:39   a long time as a piece of hardware that [TS]

00:19:42   I wanted [TS]

00:19:42   get because basically there's a project [TS]

00:19:46   that was on my mind that I wanted to do [TS]

00:19:48   that would require some actual real-life [TS]

00:19:53   footage and so getting a gimbal had [TS]

00:19:57   always been in the back of my mind and [TS]

00:19:59   that one's I had looked at I never [TS]

00:20:01   thought of great and then I was super [TS]

00:20:02   impressed by your gamble when I saw it [TS]

00:20:05   in action and so i finally decided let [TS]

00:20:07   me get this and let me just do some test [TS]

00:20:10   footage with it to see if this thing [TS]

00:20:13   that I want to do will even work and [TS]

00:20:16   it's like right now it looks like the [TS]

00:20:17   answer to that is probably not but I i [TS]

00:20:21   definitely just wanted to get in and try [TS]

00:20:23   it out and so forth that's partly why i [TS]

00:20:24   like I have this this little video clip [TS]

00:20:26   of a stabilized dog chasing parakeets in [TS]

00:20:30   the park is I was just walking around [TS]

00:20:31   the park and kind of shooting stuff and [TS]

00:20:33   playing around with it and trying to get [TS]

00:20:34   a feel for how does this work but it is [TS]

00:20:37   a fantastic piece of equipment so cool [TS]

00:20:40   yeah and and like it's not cheap [TS]

00:20:43   nobody anybody out there if you are [TS]

00:20:45   thinking of doing any kind of logging I [TS]

00:20:48   feel like I can really hardly recommend [TS]

00:20:50   this thing like it's it's going to make [TS]

00:20:52   your footage looks so much better and [TS]

00:20:55   and it has what i think is hilariously [TS]

00:20:58   like the vlogger mode where you can have [TS]

00:21:00   the camera pointed at yourself and it [TS]

00:21:01   will track your face [TS]

00:21:03   yeah so you can write so you can be [TS]

00:21:04   holding holding out your camera in front [TS]

00:21:06   of you and doing the like look at me i'm [TS]

00:21:09   walking around shooting a blog like I [TS]

00:21:11   see people doing a lot of quite [TS]

00:21:12   frequently and you can you can be sure [TS]

00:21:15   that your face will always be in the [TS]

00:21:17   center of the frame because it's doing [TS]

00:21:19   live facial recognition on you and [TS]

00:21:22   making sure to always keep your face in [TS]

00:21:24   the center which is almost like magic [TS]

00:21:26   witchcraft levels of Technology now but [TS]

00:21:29   it's it's very cool and i think i can [TS]

00:21:31   even as someone who is not a vlogger [TS]

00:21:33   like I can totally recommend this as a [TS]

00:21:35   piece of equipment if you're thinking [TS]

00:21:35   about this [TS]

00:21:36   my favorite thing that it does you can [TS]

00:21:39   say to it i want a time lapse from here [TS]

00:21:42   to here you you move it around so like i [TS]

00:21:44   want you to go from this point to this [TS]

00:21:46   point and I want two minutes of footage [TS]

00:21:48   and you put it down [TS]

00:21:49   I've got this little stand that you can [TS]

00:21:50   put in you clip it in leave it and it [TS]

00:21:52   will just move on its own and it gives [TS]

00:21:54   you the footage it's the [TS]

00:21:55   it's awesome i did some of that stuff in [TS]

00:21:57   my Island video they could just getting [TS]

00:21:59   like the kinda time-lapse videos of the [TS]

00:22:02   mountains and stuff we got to put it [TS]

00:22:04   down and just let go [TS]

00:22:06   it's brilliant I really love it this is [TS]

00:22:08   not a sponsorship nobody ji we're [TS]

00:22:10   totally open to pick to having his [TS]

00:22:12   father just isn't what i would do one [TS]

00:22:14   but the so give us a call [TS]

00:22:18   I really love your product i also want [TS]

00:22:20   to drown because of course I do [TS]

00:22:22   and the Maverick looks really impressive [TS]

00:22:24   so send me one [TS]

00:22:27   shameless Mike yeah I really think it [TS]

00:22:32   looks cool and super expensive and I as [TS]

00:22:34   we have already out late I can't justify [TS]

00:22:36   that right now [TS]

00:22:38   so how are you doing this how are you [TS]

00:22:42   making these videos like everybody [TS]

00:22:44   listen to the show knows that it takes [TS]

00:22:46   you forever to put video together even [TS]

00:22:48   with your new process of having an [TS]

00:22:50   animator the scripts we have establishes [TS]

00:22:53   take you months at best I can I don't [TS]

00:22:56   understand how you're doing this [TS]

00:22:59   based on your own kind of very stringent [TS]

00:23:02   requirements that you set for yourself [TS]

00:23:05   I mean okay well let's just let's take a [TS]

00:23:07   look at the ones that i uploaded to them [TS]

00:23:08   the real youtube channel not the cg b [TS]

00:23:10   grade to youtube channel you know right [TS]

00:23:12   where i upload an interesting things so [TS]

00:23:15   this was this was interesting because [TS]

00:23:16   the two little Electoral College follow [TS]

00:23:20   up video that I did were actually now [TS]

00:23:22   the first time I have animated something [TS]

00:23:25   in three videos worth of time you can't [TS]

00:23:28   tell i think i think you really can't [TS]

00:23:37   tell [TS]

00:23:38   oh no you can you review you can tell ya [TS]

00:23:41   I'm used to the new style now grey I [TS]

00:23:44   gonna say no the new the new thing is [TS]

00:23:45   much better [TS]

00:23:46   uh-huh i'm and and so I had they were [TS]

00:23:51   really animated because i was partly [TS]

00:23:52   just pulling footage from my old videos [TS]

00:23:54   and and laying stuff down not on top of [TS]

00:23:57   them so that was very easy to do mean [TS]

00:24:00   that the first one where I'm just simply [TS]

00:24:01   commenting on the fact that the number [TS]

00:24:02   of times the electoral colleges had this [TS]

00:24:05   strange result has increased you know [TS]

00:24:07   that I mean that i put [TS]

00:24:09   that together in like an hour the [TS]

00:24:12   morning of the election results from my [TS]

00:24:15   perspective in the UK which would have [TS]

00:24:16   been late late night in America that was [TS]

00:24:19   really simple to do I mean here's here's [TS]

00:24:22   a funny thing which is the longer video [TS]

00:24:25   which is the the one with the ridiculous [TS]

00:24:27   title like read the trouble with the [TS]

00:24:29   electoral college that was that was just [TS]

00:24:31   a case of I was really trying to write a [TS]

00:24:36   whole new video about the Electoral [TS]

00:24:37   College recognize that i had an enormous [TS]

00:24:41   amount of stuff that I wanted to say [TS]

00:24:43   about it also recognized that there was [TS]

00:24:47   no way that I could do this in the [TS]

00:24:52   timeframe that I would want to do it and [TS]

00:24:56   i kinda shelved this big update to the [TS]

00:25:00   Electoral College video but then pretend [TS]

00:25:05   a little bit like the rules for rulers [TS]

00:25:06   thing that we discussed last time like I [TS]

00:25:08   just like I found myself just constantly [TS]

00:25:11   thinking about a couple of parts of that [TS]

00:25:15   video and so the the follow-up thing [TS]

00:25:20   that I ended up putting up on friday i [TS]

00:25:24   feel like that video was the flip side [TS]

00:25:26   of the same process that produce the [TS]

00:25:28   rules for rulers now in the case of the [TS]

00:25:31   rules for rulers like I'm really happy [TS]

00:25:33   with this video that I produced that I [TS]

00:25:34   couldn't let go that kind of drove me [TS]

00:25:36   crazy for a while but I i think that the [TS]

00:25:39   the the update video is is the flip side [TS]

00:25:42   of this coin because it's a video that [TS]

00:25:44   is is frankly like not very good [TS]

00:25:47   it was produced in an absurdly short [TS]

00:25:50   period of time [TS]

00:25:51   it's the kind of thing that like looking [TS]

00:25:53   at it almost immediately after its [TS]

00:25:55   published i can see all of the writing [TS]

00:25:59   and structural flaws with it but it's [TS]

00:26:03   like but it was produced in a day [TS]

00:26:05   essentially like I took a bunch of stuff [TS]

00:26:06   that I had written i rewrote it as a [TS]

00:26:09   different thing in the morning [TS]

00:26:10   animated in the afternoon and then put [TS]

00:26:12   it up on the YouTube channel and then I [TS]

00:26:14   felt like free right I feel like okay [TS]

00:26:17   brain you can let go of this now we've [TS]

00:26:20   done a thing [TS]

00:26:22   it's not a very good thing but at least [TS]

00:26:25   like you you you can let this go are we [TS]

00:26:27   can stop thinking about this for now and [TS]

00:26:29   we can come back to it and do it [TS]

00:26:32   properly at some point down the road but [TS]

00:26:35   but that's what was occurring here also [TS]

00:26:37   for various reasons this probably isn't [TS]

00:26:39   the right time for that video in a weird [TS]

00:26:41   way [TS]

00:26:41   yeah I like I can't even I can't even [TS]

00:26:43   judge if it is or not like who knows [TS]

00:26:45   like it's from a perspective of catching [TS]

00:26:48   the zeitgeist of course it is but to do [TS]

00:26:50   an objective video when you look at that [TS]

00:26:54   it's probably not the right time for it [TS]

00:26:55   yeah it might be better to wait until a [TS]

00:26:58   period in which nobody really cares [TS]

00:26:59   about politics and then try to release [TS]

00:27:01   the thing I i don't know i don't know [TS]

00:27:03   I've had a bunch of thoughts about it [TS]

00:27:05   but sometimes i think these things [TS]

00:27:06   happen in the working process where you [TS]

00:27:08   can see the like different outcomes that [TS]

00:27:12   result from the same process and I think [TS]

00:27:14   the rules are rules video and the read [TS]

00:27:18   the Electoral College video are just [TS]

00:27:20   like an astounding example of opposite [TS]

00:27:22   results from the same fundamental thing [TS]

00:27:24   like sometimes I can't let a thing go [TS]

00:27:27   sometimes a 20-minute video pops out of [TS]

00:27:29   that which took six months right [TS]

00:27:31   sometimes form a half minute video took [TS]

00:27:33   a day again did they spoke extremes at [TS]

00:27:36   the same thing [TS]

00:27:37   yeah and also wildly varying quality [TS]

00:27:40   levels like it'sit's just it's [TS]

00:27:42   interesting to see but it's like I keep [TS]

00:27:44   I keep sort of joking online that that [TS]

00:27:46   video was way more about catharsis guy [TS]

00:27:51   just like I need to do this so that i [TS]

00:27:54   can let it go right and then and that's [TS]

00:27:56   and that's where we are now so i think [TS]

00:27:59   that is partly why there has ended up [TS]

00:28:00   being a bunch of videos that i have put [TS]

00:28:02   up in a relatively short period of time [TS]

00:28:04   is funny to see when you go on these [TS]

00:28:07   vents the you know like I'm glad I'm [TS]

00:28:10   glad it's funny for someone because it's [TS]

00:28:12   not funny for me it's like not funny [TS]

00:28:14   ha-ha right but it's it's just like [TS]

00:28:17   every now and then I'll see you do a [TS]

00:28:19   thing and I just know that your illness [TS]

00:28:23   you're in a state [TS]

00:28:25   you know like you set up a whole new [TS]

00:28:27   reddit to help you trying combat some of [TS]

00:28:30   this like I just I just watch you you [TS]

00:28:33   just spiral and then come back again one [TS]

00:28:37   day you're gonna fall down that hole and [TS]

00:28:38   I don't know what I'm gonna do to that [TS]

00:28:41   point i'll just keep watching you from [TS]

00:28:44   can sort of forgot that I set up the [TS]

00:28:45   second read it and I do like someone [TS]

00:28:47   pointed out to me like you know you've [TS]

00:28:49   done this before set up an alternative [TS]

00:28:51   really collect totally forgot oops [TS]

00:28:55   yeah it's you know bursts of activity [TS]

00:28:59   and you know right right now I feel like [TS]

00:29:03   a a burnt-out shell of a human being at [TS]

00:29:07   the moment is is what has happened on [TS]

00:29:09   the other end of this like this is this [TS]

00:29:12   is I think an unusual amount of activity [TS]

00:29:14   like really just a lot [TS]

00:29:17   yeah I've had a bunch of videos in a [TS]

00:29:20   relatively short period of time we go [TS]

00:29:22   watch that dog video people it's like [TS]

00:29:23   that yeah thats what its last that's the [TS]

00:29:25   real money you know just go wash the dog [TS]

00:29:28   video remember last time we were talking [TS]

00:29:33   about Steve Jobs and the Apple board and [TS]

00:29:37   the end of looking at how he put his [TS]

00:29:39   keys into place [TS]

00:29:41   Sasquatch Yeti on the reddit provided [TS]

00:29:43   some some follow-up that I wanted to to [TS]

00:29:45   read so they said i remember reading [TS]

00:29:48   about this in the water [TS]

00:29:49   isaacson biography and the story is more [TS]

00:29:51   bold than great imagined who I know [TS]

00:29:54   right after job tried to make his first [TS]

00:29:57   change to the board and they wanted to [TS]

00:29:58   study it for two months before [TS]

00:29:59   implementing it he called them we [TS]

00:30:01   couldn't save the company if he wasn't [TS]

00:30:03   going to get the support he needed he [TS]

00:30:04   demanded that everybody quit or he would [TS]

00:30:06   resign immediately so the board all [TS]

00:30:09   resigned at once except one guy that job [TS]

00:30:12   said could stay then he replaced all of [TS]

00:30:16   these people with people have his [TS]

00:30:17   choosing he knew he had all the leverage [TS]

00:30:20   because who wants to be on the board [TS]

00:30:22   that brought Steve Jobs back to Apple [TS]

00:30:24   then lost him again [TS]

00:30:26   interesting and the company was doing so [TS]

00:30:30   badly at that point that they would [TS]

00:30:31   absolutely get blamed for continuing to [TS]

00:30:34   tank after landing jobs go they needed [TS]

00:30:37   him more than they even needed their own [TS]

00:30:40   board seats that is a fascinating [TS]

00:30:42   additional detail there of how was it [TS]

00:30:46   that he was able to manipulate the board [TS]

00:30:50   of directors to be so on his side yet [TS]

00:30:53   because it was just basically it's it's [TS]

00:30:55   either you do what I say or the company [TS]

00:30:57   blows up right and in addition to that [TS]

00:31:00   the board had already brought him back [TS]

00:31:02   yep and it would look terrible if he [TS]

00:31:05   quit and they're all calculating for [TS]

00:31:08   their future careers [TS]

00:31:10   it looks terrible for them as board [TS]

00:31:12   members of other companies if that is [TS]

00:31:14   that is very interesting and I feel like [TS]

00:31:16   again as an example of structures lining [TS]

00:31:18   up so that a thing can happen in a [TS]

00:31:21   particular way that if there's a very [TS]

00:31:22   interesting additional detail to the [TS]

00:31:24   story because the stars are all aligned [TS]

00:31:26   right they approve the buyout next thing [TS]

00:31:28   right next to it so S&M brought jobs [TS]

00:31:31   back into the fold and it created this [TS]

00:31:33   beautifully romantic story who the man [TS]

00:31:35   coming back to save the company and then [TS]

00:31:38   he just leaves again click with you you [TS]

00:31:41   get you don't want to get a handle and [TS]

00:31:42   that would totally have tanked the [TS]

00:31:44   company at the time like I completely [TS]

00:31:46   see that as a as just a death knell for [TS]

00:31:49   we've made an acquisition and the main [TS]

00:31:53   dude is out the door as soon as he [TS]

00:31:55   possibly can be [TS]

00:31:56   we just think of like the the way the [TS]

00:31:57   stock market reacted right job comes [TS]

00:31:59   back sees how bad it is and decides he [TS]

00:32:02   can't say that leaves [TS]

00:32:04   yeah and it's also brings that the [TS]

00:32:06   interesting thing which speaking a board [TS]

00:32:09   of directors I think this is a detail [TS]

00:32:11   that people are often unaware of is how [TS]

00:32:16   much CEOs are often boards of directors [TS]

00:32:19   for other companies like how closely [TS]

00:32:22   related lots of seemingly competitive [TS]

00:32:26   companies are and then that makes sense [TS]

00:32:29   as to why like why do the board of [TS]

00:32:31   directors about apple care a lot about [TS]

00:32:33   protecting their reputation [TS]

00:32:36   it's because they are going to be [TS]

00:32:37   connected with a bunch of other [TS]

00:32:38   companies that [TS]

00:32:39   either they are the CEOs of or that they [TS]

00:32:41   are on the board of directors of just to [TS]

00:32:45   give a tidbit on that if people don't [TS]

00:32:46   know a tim cook CEO of Apple he's on the [TS]

00:32:49   board of nike yeah [TS]

00:32:51   yep and Eddy Cue who's a senior [TS]

00:32:54   vice-president Apple he's on the board [TS]

00:32:55   ferrari loose [TS]

00:32:57   yep this is this is the thing that is so [TS]

00:32:59   much more common than you think it is [TS]

00:33:01   and if you ever dig into the details of [TS]

00:33:03   like pick a random company look at their [TS]

00:33:06   board of directors and it just it [TS]

00:33:08   spirals out into a web of other [TS]

00:33:11   companies and it's like okay this makes [TS]

00:33:14   sense as to like yr apple and nike [TS]

00:33:17   working together on an Apple watch is [TS]

00:33:18   like okay well because their senior [TS]

00:33:21   level people are like trading positions [TS]

00:33:24   with each other in their companies as [TS]

00:33:27   far as how they're related so it's I [TS]

00:33:29   think it's a very interesting phenomenon [TS]

00:33:30   of bored interconnectedness among [TS]

00:33:33   companies so Bob Iger who is the CEO of [TS]

00:33:37   disney was on the board Apple who [TS]

00:33:39   there we go wonder how that pic [TS]

00:33:41   something went down right exactly [TS]

00:33:44   exactly thats that's how this goes [TS]

00:33:46   that's that's how this goes it's another [TS]

00:33:49   one of the ways that a company can [TS]

00:33:50   distribute rewards to key supporters who [TS]

00:33:53   are also people who are in charge of [TS]

00:33:56   companies that can be quite useful to [TS]

00:33:58   the CEO of the primary company like you [TS]

00:34:00   can you can just see the structure a [TS]

00:34:02   little bit unveiled if you ever trace [TS]

00:34:05   the board relationships across company [TS]

00:34:06   so seemingly seemingly competitive [TS]

00:34:09   companies often will have key members of [TS]

00:34:12   other boards who are like on the other [TS]

00:34:13   person's company you think how much are [TS]

00:34:15   you really competing it doesn't seem [TS]

00:34:17   like maybe that much this episode of [TS]

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00:35:53   like it wasn't made for me which is [TS]

00:35:55   something that people in a store because [TS]

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00:37:44   have spent a ton of time on this show [TS]

00:37:46   talking about email [TS]

00:37:48   oh yeah and that what we have right like [TS]

00:37:51   I think it's like if you if somebody was [TS]

00:37:53   to to really kind of outline the major [TS]

00:37:56   themes of the show email has definitely [TS]

00:37:58   been one of those things [TS]

00:37:59   mm and I think it's because and I think [TS]

00:38:01   there is an element that everybody can [TS]

00:38:02   relate to because if you work in any [TS]

00:38:04   kind of company email is a big part of [TS]

00:38:06   it right no matter what you do e-mail [TS]

00:38:07   kind of it just has its way of just [TS]

00:38:09   putting its tendrils out to touch every [TS]

00:38:11   part of your life whether you like it or [TS]

00:38:12   not [TS]

00:38:13   yes it can be all-consuming did you hear [TS]

00:38:17   about the to-do about the disaster with [TS]

00:38:19   the NHS and their email system i saw [TS]

00:38:22   some headlines about as funny as i saw [TS]

00:38:24   this headline on on hacker news i think [TS]

00:38:27   ya up and I didn't pay much attention to [TS]

00:38:30   it but as i mentioned i was just [TS]

00:38:32   recently in a doctor's office and when I [TS]

00:38:33   was there I was overhearing the two [TS]

00:38:35   secretaries complaining about this thing [TS]

00:38:38   that occurred I was like okay I see what [TS]

00:38:40   happened here essentially somebody [TS]

00:38:42   accidentally sent out a message to all [TS]

00:38:46   of the two million plus members of staff [TS]

00:38:50   who are on the NHL email list which also [TS]

00:38:55   includes like return generally related [TS]

00:38:58   industries like there's tons of doctors [TS]

00:38:59   who work in private practice who would [TS]

00:39:01   also get this message just like okay so [TS]

00:39:03   a message went out with two million [TS]

00:39:05   recipients and then what everybody was [TS]

00:39:08   caught in is reply all so hope [TS]

00:39:13   with two million people there ended up [TS]

00:39:16   being a million people replying saying [TS]

00:39:20   this message wasn't supposed to be for [TS]

00:39:22   me right there replying all and then [TS]

00:39:24   other Ben's like you can see what [TS]

00:39:26   suddenly happens and the the two [TS]

00:39:28   secretaries I was overhearing them say [TS]

00:39:31   that they've got a call from someone at [TS]

00:39:33   the NHS like trying to tell everybody [TS]

00:39:34   individually how to sort out this [TS]

00:39:36   problem like don't reply to any of these [TS]

00:39:39   messages like we just need to delete [TS]

00:39:41   them we meet like this is this is a [TS]

00:39:43   terrible half-life situation we need to [TS]

00:39:45   make it go down as fast as possible but [TS]

00:39:48   but quite legitimately they were saying [TS]

00:39:50   that their inboxes were filled with [TS]

00:39:52   hundreds and hundreds of a relevant [TS]

00:39:55   messages surrounding the actual [TS]

00:39:59   legitimate messages hundreds has to be [TS]

00:40:02   understating it [TS]

00:40:03   what I mean is hundreds between each [TS]

00:40:05   legitimate message [TS]

00:40:06   oh right so list of his weaknesses but [TS]

00:40:09   for envelope [TS]

00:40:10   it's like what do you do what do you do [TS]

00:40:12   anyway that's one that's one of the joys [TS]

00:40:15   of email reply off of my favorite things [TS]

00:40:18   is when you get caught one of those and [TS]

00:40:19   then somebody replies all saying please [TS]

00:40:21   take me off this [TS]

00:40:22   yeah you are contributing to the problem [TS]

00:40:24   you're trying to solve it's infuriating [TS]

00:40:26   and and i keep saying half life because [TS]

00:40:28   like this is this is the real situation [TS]

00:40:29   and I'm i remember a the graduate school [TS]

00:40:32   that I went to it it took me years to [TS]

00:40:36   get off some reply-all emails chain that [TS]

00:40:39   it happened while I was there right and [TS]

00:40:41   it's just like it was just like much [TS]

00:40:44   smaller scale but a similar thing of you [TS]

00:40:45   know somebody sent out a message to [TS]

00:40:47   everybody who was in the graduate school [TS]

00:40:49   department which ended up being just a [TS]

00:40:50   ton of people and people were applying [TS]

00:40:52   all about taking off an argument was [TS]

00:40:53   like you know a big burst in the [TS]

00:40:56   beginning but i remember years later [TS]

00:40:58   still getting someone replying all to [TS]

00:41:00   this entire list you know complaining [TS]

00:41:01   about the existence of the list is like [TS]

00:41:03   you're the problem [TS]

00:41:04   you're the problem don't reply all like [TS]

00:41:06   if everything just stays quiet and calm [TS]

00:41:08   this can go away really fast but it [TS]

00:41:10   doesn't so I'm sure the NHS will be [TS]

00:41:13   dealing with this until the end of time [TS]

00:41:15   with two million people so the reason I [TS]

00:41:18   brought up email today and is I found a [TS]

00:41:21   new email app that I think is really [TS]

00:41:23   interesting and ya mean you spent a ton [TS]

00:41:25   of time on the show [TS]

00:41:26   talking about apps that are specific to [TS]

00:41:28   our own preferences and needs like what [TS]

00:41:31   was that one that you use univox uni [TS]

00:41:33   barks at you maybe I can't imagine [TS]

00:41:35   everybody that listens to show once or [TS]

00:41:38   needs the application because it deals [TS]

00:41:39   even a very specific way [TS]

00:41:41   look at this this one that i found this [TS]

00:41:43   app Gordon ocean it's probably the best [TS]

00:41:47   email app that I've used for specific [TS]

00:41:49   features and those features our business [TS]

00:41:53   email so it does a few things now it is [TS]

00:41:58   phone only at the moment they are [TS]

00:42:00   working on tablet apps on iOS and [TS]

00:42:02   Android and they are using machine [TS]

00:42:06   learning type stuff to make your email [TS]

00:42:09   better and to make you react to it [TS]

00:42:12   better at what you explain what you mean [TS]

00:42:14   by this right is I feel like machine [TS]

00:42:16   learning is this buzzword that everybody [TS]

00:42:17   likes to use now and it'd be like when [TS]

00:42:20   you hear machine learning just replace [TS]

00:42:22   it with magic once things that upset a [TS]

00:42:24   lot of people but like I'm mostly family [TS]

00:42:26   yes your email is going to be going [TS]

00:42:27   through somebody else's server but [TS]

00:42:29   that's pretty much how all third-party [TS]

00:42:31   let's work these days for notifications [TS]

00:42:33   cetera [TS]

00:42:33   if you don't if you don't want that [TS]

00:42:35   you're not gonna like this [TS]

00:42:37   yeah it's like shocked surprised you [TS]

00:42:39   email is not even as secure as you think [TS]

00:42:41   it is if it's not going through one of [TS]

00:42:42   these services so like if you're worried [TS]

00:42:45   about security in your email you already [TS]

00:42:46   focused on the wrong problem mmm one [TS]

00:42:49   thing that it does is it looks at your [TS]

00:42:50   inbox and tries to assume what's [TS]

00:42:52   important to you who write so it takes a [TS]

00:42:55   look at like people you've replied to [TS]

00:42:56   before stuff like that he knows that so [TS]

00:42:58   obviously it's nothing is going to keep [TS]

00:42:59   that as an important email people that [TS]

00:43:02   are going to contact you for the first [TS]

00:43:03   time or whatever maybe it thinks they [TS]

00:43:05   might not be that important to you or [TS]

00:43:06   like app emails or subscriptions or [TS]

00:43:10   newsletters and stuff like that and it [TS]

00:43:11   kind of Gray's them out a little bit [TS]

00:43:13   keeps them in the order of the inbox [TS]

00:43:14   with grace them out a little bit then [TS]

00:43:16   you get a number in the bottom [TS]

00:43:17   right-hand corner that tells you how [TS]

00:43:18   many of these emails exist and with one [TS]

00:43:20   swipe you can archive all of them so [TS]

00:43:22   that's really cool how you clean out [TS]

00:43:24   junk really easily so when you say it's [TS]

00:43:26   it's grouping it's grouping similar [TS]

00:43:29   messages according to the machine [TS]

00:43:31   learning or grouping similar messages [TS]

00:43:32   according to sender machine learning [TS]

00:43:34   though it is assuming what it thinks are [TS]

00:43:37   unimportant email [TS]

00:43:38   right and you can get rid of all of [TS]

00:43:40   those in a swipe ok you can very easily [TS]

00:43:42   just with like to tap a button to say no [TS]

00:43:45   this is important and then it will learn [TS]

00:43:46   that future but it's like I'm looking at [TS]

00:43:49   it right now and I have nine messages my [TS]

00:43:51   inbox one of them is from dropbox one of [TS]

00:43:55   them is from my plumber asking for [TS]

00:43:58   feedback and one of them is from a [TS]

00:43:59   personal email me for the first time and [TS]

00:44:02   it's indicate that these three might not [TS]

00:44:04   be that important and to be honest it's [TS]

00:44:06   got two out three the right so it's [TS]

00:44:09   doing a good job of that but it goes way [TS]

00:44:11   more than this this application this is [TS]

00:44:13   just like the tip of the iceberg of what [TS]

00:44:15   this thing does and this is why it's so [TS]

00:44:17   good for businesses it has single radar [TS]

00:44:20   radar scans your inbox and your sent [TS]

00:44:24   emails and highlights unanswered [TS]

00:44:27   questions [TS]

00:44:28   whoo that's interesting and interesting [TS]

00:44:33   it uses another part of its technology [TS]

00:44:35   of assessing all of your communications [TS]

00:44:38   between people [TS]

00:44:39   so let's say mean you don't you don't [TS]

00:44:43   even we are not even in this list but [TS]

00:44:44   we've never even met each other let's [TS]

00:44:46   just say me and you it will look at how [TS]

00:44:49   long is the usual response time between [TS]

00:44:52   me and you from the lead to you and [TS]

00:44:55   we'll assess if an email was passed that [TS]

00:44:57   point and put it in the writer so for [TS]

00:45:01   example it may know it would make me [TS]

00:45:03   very sad that you don't like your [TS]

00:45:06   outgoing points [TS]

00:45:08   oh my god i did--like i feel like i [TS]

00:45:10   don't i don't want to even though those [TS]

00:45:11   numbers i have so many people waiting on [TS]

00:45:13   me for so long for so many things like [TS]

00:45:15   right but here's the thing that right so [TS]

00:45:17   this is it knows how the app will know [TS]

00:45:20   how long it takes you to usually reply [TS]

00:45:22   to somebody it will only highlight [TS]

00:45:24   something when it's past even that point [TS]

00:45:28   yeah to be like hey you should reply to [TS]

00:45:31   this but what is really great is that [TS]

00:45:33   how it works on the other end so it [TS]

00:45:35   knows how long it usually takes somebody [TS]

00:45:37   to reply to you and it will then [TS]

00:45:39   highlight just the question part food so [TS]

00:45:43   it looks or what it thinks is the [TS]

00:45:44   question and it breaks them down into [TS]

00:45:46   these little cards and it's like you [TS]

00:45:48   asked cgpgrey and maybe a long email but [TS]

00:45:51   in [TS]

00:45:51   that email i asked you one question and [TS]

00:45:54   i have not received a reply to that [TS]

00:45:56   email which means you have not answered [TS]

00:45:57   it and then it says nudge gray and just [TS]

00:46:01   highlights the question [TS]

00:46:02   it's freaking amazing that's interesting [TS]

00:46:06   and then it says like it has a date to [TS]

00:46:08   them so like this one person who hasn't [TS]

00:46:11   emailed me i asked i also what do you [TS]

00:46:13   think [TS]

00:46:14   and they haven't replied and they're [TS]

00:46:16   late by 28 days based on our previous [TS]

00:46:18   communication who it says nudge this [TS]

00:46:22   person so you just press the button and [TS]

00:46:24   open an email for you to send again and [TS]

00:46:28   i also like I have an email in my inbox [TS]

00:46:30   to a person that is overdue by eight [TS]

00:46:33   days based on our previous communication [TS]

00:46:35   it's incredible and then also i've asked [TS]

00:46:40   questions of people that it says I can [TS]

00:46:43   expect this email in X amount of days [TS]

00:46:45   based on our previous communications got [TS]

00:46:48   that's also a thing open what beautiful [TS]

00:46:49   seeing for making out there and and then [TS]

00:46:52   it has a people tab in the people tab [TS]

00:46:54   you can go into an individual you can [TS]

00:46:57   find out what the usual response time is [TS]

00:46:59   between each of them who is the best [TS]

00:47:01   person responding in that relationship [TS]

00:47:02   it tells you who introduced you to that [TS]

00:47:06   person [TS]

00:47:07   oh that's interesting because it like [TS]

00:47:10   looks at the cc's and then what is that [TS]

00:47:12   when the first email wasn't who it came [TS]

00:47:13   from [TS]

00:47:14   I have never seen a nap do the stuff [TS]

00:47:17   that this does and then it pulls in [TS]

00:47:19   contact data and work history of the [TS]

00:47:21   individual from services like Twitter [TS]

00:47:23   and LinkedIn and their websites like I [TS]

00:47:25   can look at somebody and it tells me [TS]

00:47:27   what their personal website is because [TS]

00:47:29   it's even looked at it maybe from their [TS]

00:47:31   signature field or just from pulling in [TS]

00:47:34   data from other services [TS]

00:47:35   it's incredible like it really does a [TS]

00:47:39   good job of ensuring what's important in [TS]

00:47:41   your inbox but the thing that's most [TS]

00:47:42   important for me is i will i'm using [TS]

00:47:44   this is my email app when and if they [TS]

00:47:46   put an ipad i may do that just because [TS]

00:47:49   some of this stuff is so powerful but I [TS]

00:47:51   open it every now and then just to see [TS]

00:47:53   like your questions are outstanding [TS]

00:47:54   because how else do you know that the [TS]

00:47:56   email goes and then you may never see a [TS]

00:47:59   reply and you just forget and if you're [TS]

00:48:01   packing in some other way but this [TS]

00:48:03   application tells me all my own [TS]

00:48:05   signing questions to people awesome boy [TS]

00:48:07   that is very interesting that is that is [TS]

00:48:10   very interesting this again highlights [TS]

00:48:12   one of the best things about email that [TS]

00:48:15   it is this cross-platform open way of [TS]

00:48:20   communicating and then it ends up that [TS]

00:48:22   you can build specific tools for sifting [TS]

00:48:25   through this general-purpose thing and [TS]

00:48:29   like that like that is very interesting [TS]

00:48:31   to see like oh maybe you don't use this [TS]

00:48:34   all the time but it's useful to check to [TS]

00:48:39   make sure that you haven't overlooked [TS]

00:48:40   something like that as a very as a very [TS]

00:48:43   interesting idea and I'm just I'm just [TS]

00:48:45   looking at some of the screenshots from [TS]

00:48:47   this and I have to say I this this looks [TS]

00:48:50   again like maybe one of the most [TS]

00:48:52   different email apps i've ever seen and [TS]

00:48:56   from and from your description as well [TS]

00:48:57   as I boy that is that is worth keeping [TS]

00:49:01   an eye on for when they come out with an [TS]

00:49:03   ipad version they're also working on [TS]

00:49:07   amazon alexa skill i'm not sure if it's [TS]

00:49:10   out yet but they showed a video of it [TS]

00:49:12   and you can just do all of your email [TS]

00:49:14   through the alexa and you can just have [TS]

00:49:17   said very quietly because because Alexa [TS]

00:49:19   is listening right now my echo every now [TS]

00:49:21   and then like i'll say it and then it [TS]

00:49:23   will go like I didn't hear what you said [TS]

00:49:24   like from downstairs or like our listen [TS]

00:49:27   to me that like that video that they [TS]

00:49:29   showed off was like you can it would do [TS]

00:49:32   a lot of this stuff to you is like Mary [TS]

00:49:34   is waiting on an email for you what [TS]

00:49:35   would you like to set like it yeah [TS]

00:49:37   this app is also this is part of like me [TS]

00:49:39   i'm trying to change a few things about [TS]

00:49:42   the way that I'm working this is [TS]

00:49:44   probably gonna come up a lot like I'm [TS]

00:49:46   thinking about trying out and you to do [TS]

00:49:48   manager Lou I'm thinking about like [TS]

00:49:51   different different email apps [TS]

00:49:53   I'm thinking about like optimizing my [TS]

00:49:57   life in different ways like for 2017 the [TS]

00:49:59   year of less common who move like this [TS]

00:50:03   is the stuff that's going to come up but [TS]

00:50:04   like I found this app and I really want [TS]

00:50:06   to move everything to it just because [TS]

00:50:08   its so-called but I'm also just using it [TS]

00:50:10   frequently to check on some stuff that [TS]

00:50:13   might want to catch up on so i think [TS]

00:50:15   this this one is maybe of all of the [TS]

00:50:17   apps that we've spoke [TS]

00:50:19   about i think that I'll more of those [TS]

00:50:21   things might get some use out of this [TS]

00:50:22   a.m providing that you're able to put [TS]

00:50:26   your email for these services direct [TS]

00:50:28   depends on on your company and the [TS]

00:50:30   policies of course because it when you [TS]

00:50:32   put your email into it it says like we [TS]

00:50:35   need to go away and look at this and [TS]

00:50:36   then it gives you a push notification [TS]

00:50:37   after a period of time to say like your [TS]

00:50:40   emails now ready like right this week we [TS]

00:50:42   looked at all [TS]

00:50:44   we now know what's going on it's pretty [TS]

00:50:45   cool and our AI BOTS have have crunched [TS]

00:50:48   on this for a while and yours here's [TS]

00:50:49   what they're thinking [TS]

00:50:50   yep this is the world of artificial [TS]

00:50:52   intelligence AI like yes exactly like [TS]

00:50:56   there are plenty of ways that machine [TS]

00:50:59   learning AI neural nets and stuff like [TS]

00:51:01   they can pull out patterns that you [TS]

00:51:02   couldn't possibly do yourself [TS]

00:51:04   mhm it's like light sidebar here I can't [TS]

00:51:08   exactly know what the what the deal is [TS]

00:51:09   with this but I always always presume [TS]

00:51:11   this is apple's privacy thing always [TS]

00:51:13   feel like an apple III who I would love [TS]

00:51:16   for you to take a look at my health data [TS]

00:51:18   you know with your lady I box or [TS]

00:51:20   whatever you want to do what you feel [TS]

00:51:22   like you don't even you don't even pull [TS]

00:51:24   this health data off of the phone and [TS]

00:51:25   let it go onto an ipad or synchronized [TS]

00:51:27   anywhere it's like a super lockdown like [TS]

00:51:30   that seems like an area that is super [TS]

00:51:31   ripe for all kinds of correlations and [TS]

00:51:35   learning and in the same way that you [TS]

00:51:37   can do something with email which is [TS]

00:51:38   like an enormous corpus of data about [TS]

00:51:40   you I feel a similar thing about health [TS]

00:51:42   stuff with the phone it's like oh come [TS]

00:51:44   on like there's no device that knows [TS]

00:51:45   more about me then the phone like surely [TS]

00:51:48   there's there's something to be learned [TS]

00:51:49   here but it feels like that's locked [TS]

00:51:51   down [TS]

00:51:51   it's very private kind of thing that's [TS]

00:51:53   like that anyway that's that little [TS]

00:51:54   sidebar my own personal annoyance i'm [TS]

00:51:56   going to side by your side bar so we [TS]

00:51:59   were we were together recently at the [TS]

00:52:01   all-conference which is a great [TS]

00:52:03   conference in island compiling go for a [TS]

00:52:05   while I arrived I check in i pick up my [TS]

00:52:09   name badge whose name badges above mine [TS]

00:52:11   cgpgrey and then a couple days later I [TS]

00:52:16   pick up a bag and turn around you're [TS]

00:52:18   standing behind me so that was that was [TS]

00:52:21   interesting anyway so we are at this [TS]

00:52:22   this conference together and we were we [TS]

00:52:25   were hanging out and I get a push [TS]

00:52:26   notification on my watch to tell me that [TS]

00:52:28   Stephen hack it wants to share his [TS]

00:52:29   health date with me is activity date [TS]

00:52:31   with me [TS]

00:52:32   to which you immediately so it's like we [TS]

00:52:34   should do that too so I'm now sharing [TS]

00:52:37   activity day to have a couple of people [TS]

00:52:39   that you can do on your Apple watch and [TS]

00:52:41   when you share this stuff with people [TS]

00:52:43   you feel bad about your own life [TS]

00:52:45   it is a really good motivational tool [TS]

00:52:48   because now I know when you're seeing [TS]

00:52:51   that like today I will have not moved [TS]

00:52:53   very much and you're going to know that [TS]

00:52:54   and I don't like that makes me very [TS]

00:52:56   uncomfortable [TS]

00:52:57   I like the activity sharing in the Apple [TS]

00:52:59   watch I think it's I think it's done [TS]

00:53:01   really well i think it's actually done [TS]

00:53:02   really well in a way that protects your [TS]

00:53:04   privacy because it didn't occur to me [TS]

00:53:06   before but the way they've done it is [TS]

00:53:09   you can only see the aggregate data for [TS]

00:53:11   the other person you can't see like Oh [TS]

00:53:13   Mike was really busy running around [TS]

00:53:15   between three and four pm and you can [TS]

00:53:18   only just see here here is mike's [TS]

00:53:21   activity for the day I do get [TS]

00:53:24   notifications right now which I need to [TS]

00:53:26   arrange because I just haven't yet of [TS]

00:53:28   when you complete your workouts [TS]

00:53:30   yeah yeah i think there's those [TS]

00:53:32   notifications I think our little bit [TS]

00:53:34   much so I have turned those off for [TS]

00:53:36   everybody because i like I don't really [TS]

00:53:38   need to see when everybody completes [TS]

00:53:40   their little circles it's given me a new [TS]

00:53:42   and interesting looking to your schedule [TS]

00:53:44   okay waiting for you [TS]

00:53:46   what do you mean suddenly now suddenly [TS]

00:53:47   now I have bigger privacy concerns that [TS]

00:53:49   i did the start of this conversation I'm [TS]

00:53:51   going to show that I go push [TS]

00:53:52   notification from you like eleven [TS]

00:53:54   o'clock last night saying that you've [TS]

00:53:56   done the stair stepping exercise doing [TS]

00:54:01   so there you go i'm learning new things [TS]

00:54:05   about you work out way more than I [TS]

00:54:09   thought and it's making me feel terrible [TS]

00:54:11   i'm so happy that cortex cottage has a [TS]

00:54:13   gym at the bottom now good girl you see [TS]

00:54:16   me now like 4am mike is completed a run [TS]

00:54:20   yet up i'll be waiting for that one you [TS]

00:54:22   wait for that one waiting for a long [TS]

00:54:24   time [TS]

00:54:26   how is you you on the multi watch [TS]

00:54:28   lifestyle now like you're on that right [TS]

00:54:30   how is that working for you [TS]

00:54:32   multi watch lifestyle awesome it's it's [TS]

00:54:35   it's fantastic it's everything that I [TS]

00:54:37   dreamed it would be [TS]

00:54:38   are you using two different generations [TS]

00:54:40   of watch [TS]

00:54:41   yes I got the order they calling series [TS]

00:54:45   2 is that yeah the the newer one you had [TS]

00:54:47   the original and the series to right I [TS]

00:54:50   got the overhead i bought the original [TS]

00:54:52   watch when it came out about a series [TS]

00:54:54   two to replace it [TS]

00:54:55   which you thought was a ridiculous idea [TS]

00:54:57   and i thought was an obvious conclusion [TS]

00:55:00   to come to exert heard mumbling but we [TS]

00:55:04   can't keep track of all of these things [TS]

00:55:06   but I mean the short version of it is I [TS]

00:55:11   thrilled with the series to watch i [TS]

00:55:15   totally love it [TS]

00:55:16   the battery life is fantastic like it is [TS]

00:55:20   it is noticeably noticeably better than [TS]

00:55:23   the original watch so much so that it [TS]

00:55:25   falls into the category for me of thing [TS]

00:55:28   that I simply don't have to think about [TS]

00:55:30   which is amazing right because with so [TS]

00:55:32   many batteries in our lives and I hate [TS]

00:55:35   having to be aware vaguely of the [TS]

00:55:37   batteries of all of these things like [TS]

00:55:39   okay there's the watch battery right [TS]

00:55:41   there's the headphone battery there's [TS]

00:55:43   the phone battery there's the gimbal [TS]

00:55:45   battery has filming something right this [TS]

00:55:47   like a bazillion batteries in the world [TS]

00:55:49   and i love that the watch i essentially [TS]

00:55:51   never even have to think about it and [TS]

00:55:53   then combining that with the thing that [TS]

00:55:56   I'm doing which is at nighttime i switch [TS]

00:56:00   to the old watch which I simply leave in [TS]

00:56:03   a setup nighttime face that i have it on [TS]

00:56:06   my wrist at night so that it it helps me [TS]

00:56:08   sleep better that I can check the time [TS]

00:56:10   when i'm sort of half awake doing those [TS]

00:56:13   two things means I just like never have [TS]

00:56:16   to think about the watch or the watch [TS]

00:56:18   battery or how charged is at any point [TS]

00:56:21   in time because it's just like it never [TS]

00:56:23   gets below fifty percent either of the [TS]

00:56:26   two watches so it's it's fantastic like [TS]

00:56:29   I wouldn't go out and buy a second watch [TS]

00:56:32   if I didn't already have one but using [TS]

00:56:34   the original as [TS]

00:56:35   the nighttime sleep watch is this great [TS]

00:56:38   absolutely absolutely love having done [TS]

00:56:40   this you also mentioned couple of weeks [TS]

00:56:42   ago we spoke about this that you wished [TS]

00:56:45   that you could get like a kind of fuzzy [TS]

00:56:47   clock as we've mentioned before like you [TS]

00:56:49   have this clock on your mac which kind [TS]

00:56:51   of it doesn't say like 20 for it's like [TS]

00:56:55   it's five past three or something [TS]

00:56:56   whatever you say [TS]

00:56:57   yeah I obviously those times that make [TS]

00:56:59   any sense why just said but don't worry [TS]

00:57:01   about some a bunch of people sent us in [TS]

00:57:04   something called the fuzzy complication [TS]

00:57:05   for the watch which just tells you it's [TS]

00:57:07   about six o'clock stuff like that that [TS]

00:57:09   thing exists if you tried that and no [TS]

00:57:12   because i have i have no real use for [TS]

00:57:15   this because the way Apple sets up there [TS]

00:57:18   watch faces you always have to have the [TS]

00:57:20   exact time on the watch face Yeah Yeah [TS]

00:57:23   right hand replace the clock [TS]

00:57:24   you can never replace the HS teenage [TS]

00:57:25   have two plaques on the wall guys are [TS]

00:57:27   confusing [TS]

00:57:28   there's no version of this that allows [TS]

00:57:30   you to just have the one clock is that [TS]

00:57:32   this again is my internal frustration [TS]

00:57:34   with Apple not allowing people to design [TS]

00:57:36   watch faces which i used to have I used [TS]

00:57:39   to have used to have great hope for like [TS]

00:57:42   obviously Apple is going to open this up [TS]

00:57:45   obviously this is a thing that will [TS]

00:57:47   change will come someday but a couple of [TS]

00:57:51   personal conversations combined with [TS]

00:57:53   apples brand deals with nike animes yeah [TS]

00:57:56   I feel like have have totally ripped [TS]

00:57:59   this dream of mine away it's like there [TS]

00:58:01   is no way that they are ever going to do [TS]

00:58:03   this so yes people can design customers [TS]

00:58:05   faces provided that there are huge [TS]

00:58:07   fashion brand make their own branded [TS]

00:58:09   watches well it exactly like when gray [TS]

00:58:11   industries is a global fashion brand [TS]

00:58:14   then maybe I can get them to produce a [TS]

00:58:17   watch face for me right [TS]

00:58:19   he just needs to go back to your [TS]

00:58:20   original dream of making your own [TS]

00:58:22   t-shirts but that one that was the thing [TS]

00:58:25   yeah suddenly this is a more practical [TS]

00:58:27   idea but now it's it is frustrating and [TS]

00:58:31   i think i think this fuzzy clock [TS]

00:58:33   complication is a perfect example of [TS]

00:58:34   like theirs theirs base for this but [TS]

00:58:39   this just this is fundamentally can't [TS]

00:58:41   work or even how I would have been the [TS]

00:58:43   past couple of days for various reasons [TS]

00:58:46   I don't wanna get into at the moment [TS]

00:58:47   what I have really wanted [TS]

00:58:49   is what I think of is like a the old [TS]

00:58:52   pilots or flight attendant watches where [TS]

00:58:55   I like where you can have a watch that [TS]

00:58:58   has to clock faces on it of equivalent [TS]

00:59:01   weight so you can set one for one time [TS]

00:59:03   zone and one for the other one and I [TS]

00:59:06   feel like I've wanted to do this for a [TS]

00:59:09   couple reasons in the past few days and [TS]

00:59:10   it's just it's like it's not there's no [TS]

00:59:12   great solution to this in the setup that [TS]

00:59:16   the watch is currently have like their [TS]

00:59:18   little complications just don't do what [TS]

00:59:19   I really want [TS]

00:59:21   I like the emphasis is always on the [TS]

00:59:22   wrong time like I want to be able to [TS]

00:59:26   have the main time be somewhere else and [TS]

00:59:28   have a smaller time be the the time in [TS]

00:59:30   the current time zone but it's like no [TS]

00:59:32   no way to do this and this is the kind [TS]

00:59:35   of thing like someone could create a [TS]

00:59:37   custom watch face which would be awesome [TS]

00:59:39   for people who want to kind of dual [TS]

00:59:42   think about two time zones in a very [TS]

00:59:44   particular way but like never going to [TS]

00:59:47   happen because that market is super [TS]

00:59:48   small and apples not going to make a [TS]

00:59:50   face that that does like exactly what [TS]

00:59:52   you wanted to do so I'm sad about that [TS]

00:59:54   two watches thumbs-up lack of custom [TS]

00:59:58   watch races sat faith [TS]

00:59:58   watch races sat faith [TS]

01:00:00   no thumbs down yeah I'm I'm sadder than [TS]

01:00:04   I disapprove [TS]

01:00:05   that's why a sad face I don't into the [TS]

01:00:08   emoji very well microsite sorry [TS]

01:00:11   now the components back out again okay [TS]

01:00:13   to go back to email [TS]

01:00:15   ok so you treat the other day that you [TS]

01:00:17   have found a limited I didn't know [TS]

01:00:19   existed [TS]

01:00:20   apparently you can only have 100 VIPs [TS]

01:00:23   and apple mail system [TS]

01:00:24   ohmygod ohmygod i mean i have some [TS]

01:00:29   issues with the fact that you even reach [TS]

01:00:31   this in the first place [TS]

01:00:35   okay i'm going to have to explain what's [TS]

01:00:37   going on here yeah I think he did okay [TS]

01:00:39   for the first thing the first thing that [TS]

01:00:41   frustrates me so for the listeners i was [TS]

01:00:43   doing some email on my computer it was [TS]

01:00:47   using Apple's default mail app and in [TS]

01:00:51   there you can press a little button next [TS]

01:00:52   to a contact to immediately add them as [TS]

01:00:54   a VIP mhm and I went to press this [TS]

01:00:56   button and I got the message which said [TS]

01:00:59   something like you are only allowed to [TS]

01:01:02   have one hundred VIPs please remove some [TS]

01:01:05   VIPs and try again now is made me [TS]

01:01:10   furious because just to start with this [TS]

01:01:13   is such this is such like an apple ii [TS]

01:01:16   message like this like this there's [TS]

01:01:18   something that's like the idea of Apple [TS]

01:01:20   knows best for you which is always [TS]

01:01:22   frustrating that is embodied in this [TS]

01:01:24   idea because I look at that message and [TS]

01:01:26   i think is there some kind of physical [TS]

01:01:29   limits to to vips right like why why [TS]

01:01:34   have you decided i'm only allowed to [TS]

01:01:35   have one hundred i don't think there's [TS]

01:01:38   any real reason for this this this [TS]

01:01:40   number is obviously clearly selected by [TS]

01:01:42   a human [TS]

01:01:43   it's not even a case where like you try [TS]

01:01:45   to add a VIP and you get an error which [TS]

01:01:48   says like no into value limit reached [TS]

01:01:51   255 VIPs max right which is like okay [TS]

01:01:54   someone programmed this and just never [TS]

01:01:56   conceived of the idea that someone would [TS]

01:01:58   have more than 255 VIPs and it's just [TS]

01:02:01   like a bug in a sense like know there [TS]

01:02:03   was a meeting somewhere and Apple where [TS]

01:02:05   they sat down and they said how many [TS]

01:02:07   VIPs are we going to allow people to [TS]

01:02:08   have [TS]

01:02:09   100 no one will ever need more than 100 [TS]

01:02:12   VIPs great that's what we've decided [TS]

01:02:15   end of discussion and that kind of stuff [TS]

01:02:16   just infuriates me like a totally [TS]

01:02:18   artificial no reason for it [TS]

01:02:23   limit i love the way it's written a [TS]

01:02:26   maximum of 100 VIPs is allowed [TS]

01:02:29   please remove any unused the IPS and try [TS]

01:02:32   again [TS]

01:02:33   my favorite was allowed and unused right [TS]

01:02:36   like allowed allowed who are you [TS]

01:02:39   computer like what what are you doing [TS]

01:02:42   and then just it just the presumption [TS]

01:02:43   that you can't have more than a hundred [TS]

01:02:46   surely there must be some that are [TS]

01:02:47   unused yeah there's that there's no [TS]

01:02:49   reason for this [TS]

01:02:50   so okay so now people are wondering how [TS]

01:02:54   did I get here [TS]

01:02:55   yeah i still think that like even though [TS]

01:02:57   this is this extremely thing that that [TS]

01:02:59   is being coded in i still think that you [TS]

01:03:02   are doing it wrong that's yeah i can [TS]

01:03:05   think and feel the judgment and the [TS]

01:03:07   blame and therefore act like it okay so [TS]

01:03:09   okay so here's because when this happens [TS]

01:03:11   i have had like this this tale of woe [TS]

01:03:17   with email stretching back close to six [TS]

01:03:20   months now we're essentially at the [TS]

01:03:24   start of my summer travels before i went [TS]

01:03:27   to WWDC before i went to VidCon but I [TS]

01:03:30   was just getting on the plane to go to [TS]

01:03:31   America and start doing a bunch of stuff [TS]

01:03:33   family reunions all the rest of this i [TS]

01:03:37   have been terrible at email starting at [TS]

01:03:41   that point so much so that I essentially [TS]

01:03:44   went the entire summer without really [TS]

01:03:47   looking at email in any significant way [TS]

01:03:48   and then came back at some point in [TS]

01:03:51   September and had an overwhelming number [TS]

01:03:57   of emails to reply to just thousands and [TS]

01:04:02   thousands of messages this is like that [TS]

01:04:04   you know after after being filtered out [TS]

01:04:06   you know trying to sort out for [TS]

01:04:07   important stuff just like an incredible [TS]

01:04:09   amount of off the resulting yeah I don't [TS]

01:04:13   know yeah now this is always like this [TS]

01:04:19   is there's a situation like when you [TS]

01:04:20   have problems in life [TS]

01:04:22   problems always happen in these ways [TS]

01:04:25   that end up compounding each other and [TS]

01:04:28   so that the problem that happened which [TS]

01:04:30   which was compounding is that upgraded [TS]

01:04:34   to iOS 10 and under iOS 10 my favorite [TS]

01:04:39   email application which is the perfect [TS]

01:04:42   one to deal with this problem [TS]

01:04:43   uni box is a little buggy and weird [TS]

01:04:47   right [TS]

01:04:49   there's some problems loading messages [TS]

01:04:51   there's some problem sending replies and [TS]

01:04:54   it's like this is the exact worst [TS]

01:04:56   situation to try to use this under right [TS]

01:04:58   like that the application is going to be [TS]

01:05:00   under an unusual amount of stress with [TS]

01:05:04   it with an unusually large number of [TS]

01:05:06   messages i contacted the developers they [TS]

01:05:08   say the working on a fix but it doesn't [TS]

01:05:09   change the fact that like it hasn't been [TS]

01:05:11   available to me for the last couple [TS]

01:05:12   months and when an email problem gets so [TS]

01:05:17   enormous it's also just very hard to [TS]

01:05:18   psychologically even deal with it's like [TS]

01:05:20   maybe it'll just go away right maybe if [TS]

01:05:22   I just don't pay any attention to this [TS]

01:05:23   it'll disappear [TS]

01:05:25   turns out is not true there is an [TS]

01:05:26   element of it will you know some people [TS]

01:05:29   would just stop trying [TS]

01:05:30   yeah but then more people will try so [TS]

01:05:33   what I have been falling back on is [TS]

01:05:35   trying to just use the regular built in [TS]

01:05:37   mail.app it in terms of replying stuff [TS]

01:05:39   because it's like I can't fully trust [TS]

01:05:42   the app that I want to use right now I [TS]

01:05:44   want to try to burn through this is as [TS]

01:05:46   most reliably as i can like this is a [TS]

01:05:49   case where reliability is going to [TS]

01:05:50   matter more than speed so I'm trying to [TS]

01:05:53   get through mail and I've also been [TS]

01:05:55   trying to essentially make mail as close [TS]

01:06:00   to uni boxes i can which is male allows [TS]

01:06:04   you to have this special email inbox [TS]

01:06:06   that shows you just messages from your [TS]

01:06:08   VIPs and the way I want to use that is [TS]

01:06:12   i'm trying to filter out messages [TS]

01:06:15   essentially from people I know and [TS]

01:06:18   people i don't know which again is a I [TS]

01:06:21   understand it's a very particular [TS]

01:06:22   problem for someone in my position like [TS]

01:06:24   this is not really a general-purpose [TS]

01:06:26   problem but nonetheless what I really [TS]

01:06:29   want VIPs to be in mail when im using it [TS]

01:06:32   is essentially my address book if [TS]

01:06:35   there's anybody [TS]

01:06:36   you put in my address book i want to be [TS]

01:06:38   able to pull their messages out [TS]

01:06:40   separately from the sea of messages and [TS]

01:06:43   so that's why I've been going through [TS]

01:06:45   and essentially VIP eating every single [TS]

01:06:47   person I know who replies and i'm also [TS]

01:06:51   in the unusual position of having a sort [TS]

01:06:57   of a large group of acquaintances who I [TS]

01:07:03   want to have their messages elevated [TS]

01:07:06   above as well so for example like I met [TS]

01:07:08   a bunch of people at VidCon and they'll [TS]

01:07:10   send they send like a follow-up message [TS]

01:07:12   and said okay great i want to put this [TS]

01:07:13   person in the VIP system we probably [TS]

01:07:16   won't email very frequently but maybe [TS]

01:07:19   six months down the road they're going [TS]

01:07:21   to send me a message about a thing and i [TS]

01:07:22   would rather not have them in the same [TS]

01:07:24   group with like random people that I [TS]

01:07:26   don't know and this exact situation just [TS]

01:07:29   happened with the exact person who I was [TS]

01:07:31   actually trying to mark as a VIP when [TS]

01:07:33   that message came up like someone sent [TS]

01:07:34   me a message a while ago and I thought [TS]

01:07:36   I'm not going to be in regular contact [TS]

01:07:37   with this person but I still want their [TS]

01:07:39   message above the fray [TS]

01:07:41   I couldn't go to mark them as a VIP know [TS]

01:07:43   you're not allowed and then you know a [TS]

01:07:45   couple days ago they happen to send me a [TS]

01:07:46   question about a thing it's like I saw [TS]

01:07:48   it but it wasn't filtered the way I [TS]

01:07:50   wanted it to be so this is this is how i [TS]

01:07:52   have ended up in this position and it is [TS]

01:07:54   extra frustrating because it is a [TS]

01:07:56   totally artificial totally pointless [TS]

01:07:58   limit that is built into the mail [TS]

01:08:00   application for no reason [TS]

01:08:02   isn't this a thing a human could do [TS]

01:08:04   isn't this something your assistant [TS]

01:08:05   could do like he just have a list of [TS]

01:08:08   people I guess there's a lot to check [TS]

01:08:10   isn't it like check every email that you [TS]

01:08:11   receive against the list [TS]

01:08:13   yeah this is like this is a very [TS]

01:08:14   different thing what i did when i came [TS]

01:08:16   back from the summer was i did a kind of [TS]

01:08:19   super triage of my inbox of trying to go [TS]

01:08:22   through and find all of the genuinely [TS]

01:08:25   urgent stuff that there was to deal with [TS]

01:08:28   and essentially took aside two days to [TS]

01:08:30   be like I'm just doing email and I'm [TS]

01:08:32   just going through a bunch of this stuff [TS]

01:08:33   and so I cleared out a bunch of things [TS]

01:08:37   from there but the backlog is just so [TS]

01:08:39   incredibly huge that that the rest of it [TS]

01:08:42   is very hard to deal with and then i'm [TS]

01:08:44   having like random stuff come in and I'm [TS]

01:08:45   just missing it because im using mail [TS]

01:08:47   because i'm not seeing everybody in my [TS]

01:08:48   contacts [TS]

01:08:49   and then you know the whole bunch of [TS]

01:08:51   other stuff and I was gripped by mania [TS]

01:08:52   for the video that i want to produce [TS]

01:08:53   there's just been a whole bunch of [TS]

01:08:55   compounding problems that have led me in [TS]

01:08:57   a situation where it's like a i am very [TS]

01:08:59   sad about email [TS]

01:09:01   I'm very sad about email that's where i [TS]

01:09:03   am giving more VIP sample not too much [TS]

01:09:07   to ask [TS]

01:09:07   that's really not gonna solve your [TS]

01:09:09   problem now it's totally as bad as that [TS]

01:09:11   is the bottleneck here [TS]

01:09:12   no eat you have hit a software limit but [TS]

01:09:17   they are not your problem i think that [TS]

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01:11:25   hashtags cortex questions [TS]

01:11:27   hello it's been awhile is this the one [TS]

01:11:31   okay we got a new intro for the segment [TS]

01:11:33   hello hello Elaine what is your question [TS]

01:11:35   Elaine asks what is great do and his [TS]

01:11:37   assistant is on vacation [TS]

01:11:39   is there a backup or is he on his own I [TS]

01:11:42   thought it was fascinating because it [TS]

01:11:44   never crossed my mind before clearly [TS]

01:11:46   your assistant can't work on everything [TS]

01:11:47   forever [TS]

01:11:48   what do you do my assistant has some [TS]

01:11:51   assistants who become my assistant when [TS]

01:11:54   she's on vacation you have one assistant [TS]

01:11:56   no no two assistants because one is none [TS]

01:11:59   right exactly [TS]

01:12:01   that's perfect that's such a great [TS]

01:12:03   solution [TS]

01:12:04   it doesn't surprise me that this is [TS]

01:12:06   something that you needed like that you [TS]

01:12:07   would have gone through this already [TS]

01:12:09   like no oh yeah i will be no break it [TS]

01:12:12   totally came up this summer when I was [TS]

01:12:14   traveling it turned out that i didn't [TS]

01:12:16   actually need to call on the additional [TS]

01:12:20   assistant but I just I wanted to have [TS]

01:12:23   someone available if there was some kind [TS]

01:12:26   of problem that i was unable to deal [TS]

01:12:27   with ya and that that and that's all [TS]

01:12:29   that was like a fallback of you know the [TS]

01:12:32   situation I was trying to avoid is i'm [TS]

01:12:35   at some family event where I can't take [TS]

01:12:39   away time for business stuff i really [TS]

01:12:41   don't want to but maybe there's some [TS]

01:12:43   kind of problem like i just i need there [TS]

01:12:45   to be someone who i can at least have as [TS]

01:12:48   an option to call on for some help maybe [TS]

01:12:51   they won't be able to do anything but [TS]

01:12:52   just knowing that there was someone who [TS]

01:12:54   might be able to help in a situation [TS]

01:12:56   where i might be pressed on time that [TS]

01:12:58   was that was a thing that I definitely [TS]

01:13:00   want to have set up so my assistant has [TS]

01:13:02   an assistant who was my assistant when [TS]

01:13:05   she was on vacation this summer [TS]

01:13:07   mm okay that makes sense [TS]

01:13:09   Jordan said that they were real [TS]

01:13:13   listening to cortex number 10 long time [TS]

01:13:15   ago [TS]

01:13:15   yeah you mentioned that you would use [TS]

01:13:18   omnigraffle potentially for animations [TS]

01:13:21   of Apple ever released a large ipad in [TS]

01:13:23   the stylist who they did that [TS]

01:13:26   oh yeah did you do that no i did not do [TS]

01:13:29   about no I think the main thing that [TS]

01:13:32   changed is she to you by that point [TS]

01:13:34   you'd basically started transition away [TS]

01:13:35   from animate yourself [TS]

01:13:37   yeah when we would have first discussed [TS]

01:13:41   this i was in a different sort of [TS]

01:13:43   transition which was transitioning from [TS]

01:13:45   Mac to iOS largely which is mostly done [TS]

01:13:52   at this point i think it's it's very [TS]

01:13:54   unlikely i could transition more to iOS [TS]

01:13:57   that i currently have and so at that [TS]

01:14:01   stage I was really trying to think about [TS]

01:14:05   and look for an animation solution on my [TS]

01:14:08   ipad now two things I think are [TS]

01:14:12   interesting it is is that even now [TS]

01:14:14   however long it's been since we record [TS]

01:14:16   that episode there is nothing available [TS]

01:14:19   for the iPad pro that could be an [TS]

01:14:23   adequate solution to what I really [TS]

01:14:25   wanted like that still doesn't exist and [TS]

01:14:28   every once in a while I check in on the [TS]

01:14:29   like how is the animation illustration [TS]

01:14:32   world doing on ipad right and it's like [TS]

01:14:34   it's an interesting world that there's a [TS]

01:14:36   bunch of tools that's all very narrow [TS]

01:14:38   problems but there's nothing that's a [TS]

01:14:40   general purpose solution and I kind of [TS]

01:14:42   wonder like what's what's going on there [TS]

01:14:44   what's happening in that world so what's [TS]

01:14:48   the general solution on the mac is that [TS]

01:14:50   inkscape that you consider there's a [TS]

01:14:53   bunch of there's a bunch of different [TS]

01:14:53   tools i personally was using inkscape [TS]

01:14:57   but you could do the same things with [TS]

01:14:58   illustrator you know you have tools like [TS]

01:15:02   Final Cut Pro and after I felt like [TS]

01:15:03   there's a bunch of things that you can [TS]

01:15:05   use to solve this problem and I think [TS]

01:15:08   right now on iOS it would still be just [TS]

01:15:13   incredibly time-consuming or very very [TS]

01:15:16   difficult to actually do a serious [TS]

01:15:18   amount of [TS]

01:15:19   animation work on that platform again [TS]

01:15:23   there's a lot there's a lot of like [TS]

01:15:24   particular things that you can do but [TS]

01:15:28   less general-purpose solutions so so [TS]

01:15:32   it's it's it's interesting sitting here [TS]

01:15:33   now and having someone bring up a thing [TS]

01:15:35   from the past and realizing like oh that [TS]

01:15:36   that was a different problem that passed [TS]

01:15:39   gray was dealing with that wouldn't have [TS]

01:15:42   even been solved if he had stuck with it [TS]

01:15:44   and he instead went down a different [TS]

01:15:47   path which is now working with an [TS]

01:15:49   animator that which is as a as a slight [TS]

01:15:52   sidebar here i'm now in the process of [TS]

01:15:56   trying to learn after effects for the [TS]

01:16:00   computer because this is the system that [TS]

01:16:02   I'm transitioning to away from xscape [TS]

01:16:05   and final cut pro and instead working [TS]

01:16:08   with the adobe suite of applications to [TS]

01:16:12   do animations partly because they're [TS]

01:16:14   better for working in a group and partly [TS]

01:16:17   because I think they're just a generally [TS]

01:16:19   better solution what I well I had [TS]

01:16:20   cobbled together for myself over the [TS]

01:16:22   past few years so you looking to move [TS]

01:16:23   into after effects and premier moving to [TS]

01:16:26   after effects from Final Cut Pro oh [TS]

01:16:29   interesting huh [TS]

01:16:32   this is partly because of your animator [TS]

01:16:33   this is partly because this is the tool [TS]

01:16:35   the animator is using it's also partly [TS]

01:16:37   because i know people who are running [TS]

01:16:40   serious animation outputs on after [TS]

01:16:43   effects and I've seen and I so I've been [TS]

01:16:46   able to see behind the scenes like how [TS]

01:16:47   does this work and it has some really [TS]

01:16:50   really good solutions for some of the [TS]

01:16:52   things that I'm trying to do so i think [TS]

01:16:53   it's probably the best tool for what I [TS]

01:16:56   am trying to accomplish [TS]

01:16:58   yeah I guess final cut is really fitting [TS]

01:16:59   setting video together final cut is a [TS]

01:17:03   fantastic program but its core skill is [TS]

01:17:08   really stitching together pre-existing [TS]

01:17:11   clips of video like let's say for [TS]

01:17:14   example you wanted to start a vlog with [TS]

01:17:17   a little but def final cut is exactly [TS]

01:17:20   the tool that you would probably want to [TS]

01:17:22   get started with because i think it's [TS]

01:17:23   really easy [TS]

01:17:24   it's really intuitive you can do a [TS]

01:17:27   tremendous amount in it but it is also [TS]

01:17:32   just [TS]

01:17:33   so not designed for animation right this [TS]

01:17:36   is like clearly not its skill set [TS]

01:17:39   whereas after effects is much more [TS]

01:17:41   designed for animation I mean that there [TS]

01:17:43   are some things that that actually that [TS]

01:17:46   rules for rulers videos is a really good [TS]

01:17:48   example of there were a couple of [TS]

01:17:51   changes that we made at the last [TS]

01:17:53   possible second to the video in after [TS]

01:17:57   effects that would have just never ever [TS]

01:18:00   ever been possible with final cut pro [TS]

01:18:02   like the morning of we actually ended up [TS]

01:18:05   changing the background that was used in [TS]

01:18:07   the video which might normally be like a [TS]

01:18:10   relatively simple thing to do except for [TS]

01:18:13   the fact that i have this this weird [TS]

01:18:15   thing that people sometimes tune into [TS]

01:18:16   and sometimes don't but the stick [TS]

01:18:19   figures that i use almost always their [TS]

01:18:22   heads are actually transparent [TS]

01:18:24   I don't like to fill in the heads with [TS]

01:18:26   any color but so this means that there [TS]

01:18:29   has to be like an artificial background [TS]

01:18:31   behind some of their heads in some of [TS]

01:18:33   the scenes and that that kind of thing [TS]

01:18:36   it's like man if I had done this in [TS]

01:18:37   Final Cut Pro changing the background [TS]

01:18:39   would be another 20 hours of work [TS]

01:18:42   whereas with the tool that is designed [TS]

01:18:45   much more specifically for animation [TS]

01:18:47   it's not nothing but it is way easier to [TS]

01:18:51   do because the application natively [TS]

01:18:54   understand like this is an animation [TS]

01:18:56   that this is an animated molasses-like [TS]

01:18:58   here are the different properties of [TS]

01:19:00   this animatable asset so I'm just [TS]

01:19:03   beginning to get into after effects and [TS]

01:19:06   that's that's what I'm taking a look at [TS]

01:19:07   as almost certainly the future of how [TS]

01:19:10   the videos are going to be produced [TS]

01:19:12   hmm this is interesting because i have [TS]

01:19:16   been very tempted by the microsoft [TS]

01:19:20   studio [TS]

01:19:22   which is Microsoft's new kind of desktop [TS]

01:19:25   that they've made it's like a 28 inch [TS]

01:19:28   screen on a pivot which you can bring [TS]

01:19:30   down in front of you and it has native [TS]

01:19:32   stylus support that's the one that the [TS]

01:19:35   one that folds down it has little thing [TS]

01:19:37   on the screen [TS]

01:19:38   I've just seen that one video clip [TS]

01:19:39   everywhere yeah it looks like an imac [TS]

01:19:41   and you can grab the screen and bring it [TS]

01:19:42   down in front of you and it's like a [TS]

01:19:43   drafting table [TS]

01:19:44   yeah that not only does it look like an [TS]

01:19:46   imac it looks exactly like something [TS]

01:19:48   Apple should have produced but didn't [TS]

01:19:50   but now I said that like that computer [TS]

01:19:54   is like the perfect form factor for the [TS]

01:19:58   way that I work on my mac with final cut [TS]

01:20:00   and with logic of using the pen stylus [TS]

01:20:04   interactive it and i believe if i was a [TS]

01:20:08   user of Adobe's product i would be very [TS]

01:20:11   tempted to use that machine instead of [TS]

01:20:15   my imac because it lets my movement more [TS]

01:20:18   in the way that I had it with gestures [TS]

01:20:20   on the trackpad and Pentonville fine [TS]

01:20:22   motion you are moving to something like [TS]

01:20:25   adobe suite of products [TS]

01:20:28   who would you be more tempted to try [TS]

01:20:30   something like this because we we both [TS]

01:20:33   headed in the same way and this would be [TS]

01:20:35   like direct on-screen manipulation of [TS]

01:20:38   the work as opposed to augmenting it to [TS]

01:20:41   a stylist and pad next year I mean it as [TS]

01:20:46   crazy as it sounds in some ways like yes [TS]

01:20:48   it is totally a tempting interesting [TS]

01:20:51   thing especially because of the way mean [TS]

01:20:53   use our max like function machines for [TS]

01:20:56   us the mac is like this is this is a [TS]

01:20:59   toaster right is a machine that does a [TS]

01:21:00   particular thing and I don't really care [TS]

01:21:03   about it outside of that particular [TS]

01:21:04   thing and in addition this gets over one [TS]

01:21:09   of the main problems i'm always talking [TS]

01:21:11   about which is transition costs [TS]

01:21:13   I was like well the transition costs of [TS]

01:21:16   learning a new way of animating is [TS]

01:21:21   something that I have to go through [TS]

01:21:22   anyway like I have to pay that price now [TS]

01:21:24   but if I'm switching to a tool that is [TS]

01:21:29   actually cross-platform well then it [TS]

01:21:32   matters way less like what is the [TS]

01:21:35   operating system running [TS]

01:21:36   underneath it i get in at that [TS]

01:21:38   perspective it's like well this [TS]

01:21:40   Microsoft computer from my production [TS]

01:21:43   perspective is essentially just and [TS]

01:21:45   adobe machine right it's the machine [TS]

01:21:48   that runs adobe stuff and it's it's [TS]

01:21:50   funny you mention that because if it's [TS]

01:21:52   been vaguely crossing my mind of like [TS]

01:21:54   well i'm using logic to edit all my [TS]

01:21:57   podcasts but I think adobe has some kind [TS]

01:22:00   of audio editing tool into its cool [TS]

01:22:02   audition yeah like maybe I should look [TS]

01:22:05   into that like I've heard it's much [TS]

01:22:06   better for doing podcasts and me and you [TS]

01:22:08   know what the only the only roadblock in [TS]

01:22:10   that is that's you Mike if the other [TS]

01:22:13   person I work with who we need to share [TS]

01:22:15   compatible file formats but it's it's [TS]

01:22:18   like it's just a thing like you can see [TS]

01:22:20   how if I'm transitioning to a layer [TS]

01:22:24   above the operating system for my [TS]

01:22:28   production stuff then it totally makes a [TS]

01:22:31   transition to Windows way more likely [TS]

01:22:34   for a production machine right like I [TS]

01:22:37   will always personally be using iOS [TS]

01:22:40   devices and so be personally much more [TS]

01:22:43   connected into the Apple operating [TS]

01:22:45   system but I i can very easily imagine [TS]

01:22:49   having an office in the future where I [TS]

01:22:53   have a machine that is an Adobe machine [TS]

01:22:54   and then something interesting like this [TS]

01:22:56   Microsoft drafting table makes that a [TS]

01:22:58   much more tempting option than otherwise [TS]

01:23:01   maybe Mike learns adobe audition I usual [TS]

01:23:05   edition for a few things processing wise [TS]

01:23:08   like pre-processing of audio and some of [TS]

01:23:11   the stuff that does is brilliant blue [TS]

01:23:13   I don't understand how to edit using it [TS]

01:23:15   I got it looked at it and I just can't [TS]

01:23:19   get it it's like it it doesn't just [TS]

01:23:20   transfer easily to my brain [TS]

01:23:22   maybe one day maybe I'll learn i'll give [TS]

01:23:25   you a crash course the only way I'm ever [TS]

01:23:29   moving this show to after effects is if [TS]

01:23:31   you do provide a training course for me [TS]

01:23:34   just so you know same as when i took the [TS]

01:23:36   videos over you made that great little [TS]

01:23:39   screen Causton and everything was great [TS]

01:23:41   news will find who knows that we're [TS]

01:23:43   running the show on windows in here [TS]

01:23:44   can you imagine [TS]

01:23:46   the reddit would be happy at least know [TS]

01:23:49   but you know but you don't understand [TS]

01:23:50   you don't look it [TS]

01:23:51   listen use the key thing you're never [TS]

01:23:53   going to make the people on the internet [TS]

01:23:55   happy [TS]

01:23:56   oh yeah because we had make the people [TS]

01:23:57   happy that say we should switch to the [TS]

01:23:58   surface but then we just upset all the [TS]

01:24:00   people that use macross exactly right [TS]

01:24:02   that's all that happens like all you're [TS]

01:24:04   ever doing is trading one group of angry [TS]

01:24:06   people for another group of angry people [TS]

01:24:08   so if you use apple stuff you're gonna [TS]

01:24:10   hear from all the windows people if you [TS]

01:24:11   use Windows you're going to hear from [TS]

01:24:12   all the Apple people right so it's it's [TS]

01:24:14   it's not about them Mike about you and [TS]

01:24:16   what do you want to do [TS]

01:24:17   alright alright there's a bunch of [TS]

01:24:19   questions that come from that came from [TS]

01:24:21   12-5 37 on reddit great read it name [TS]

01:24:26   that matter questions about this show [TS]

01:24:29   when i get these every now and then like [TS]

01:24:32   one or two of them but this individual [TS]

01:24:34   just gave a bunch so I think it might [TS]

01:24:36   answer a lot of questions and all make [TS]

01:24:38   more questions who knows but it might at [TS]

01:24:40   least 25 people who are interested in [TS]

01:24:42   this stuff like about cortex so they [TS]

01:24:45   start with what is the usual time spent [TS]

01:24:47   recording an episode [TS]

01:24:49   this is the most interesting part to me [TS]

01:24:51   because we probably record for on [TS]

01:24:56   average about four hours we were on the [TS]

01:25:00   phone together [TS]

01:25:01   would you agree that feel about right [TS]

01:25:03   there feels about right sometimes it's [TS]

01:25:05   less but sometimes it's not six [TS]

01:25:07   yeah i'm not exaggerating [TS]

01:25:10   that is not an exaggeration not an [TS]

01:25:12   exaggeration at all but do you want to [TS]

01:25:15   explain to the people why it is that [TS]

01:25:17   it's four or six hours when they're [TS]

01:25:20   listening to a show that maybe an hour [TS]

01:25:23   and 22 yahoo hours long [TS]

01:25:25   I feel like we should because otherwise [TS]

01:25:27   people going to ask for all of it there [TS]

01:25:31   is a probably on average about 45 to 60 [TS]

01:25:34   minutes before the show begins where [TS]

01:25:37   we're booting up [TS]

01:25:39   yeah right where we are just like [TS]

01:25:41   preparing for the show like this is the [TS]

01:25:44   stuff we're going to talk about a lot of [TS]

01:25:46   the time we'll look at the document [TS]

01:25:47   together that that we prepared a more [TS]

01:25:49   trim or rearrange then there's just like [TS]

01:25:52   a little bit is gas in we're just [TS]

01:25:53   getting ready then about 15 minutes of [TS]

01:25:56   saying I'm ready now are you ready now [TS]

01:25:58   yes I'm ready [TS]

01:25:59   are you ready now we do that a bunch [TS]

01:26:01   then you'll go get another coffee sure [TS]

01:26:03   usually done by that point they're [TS]

01:26:07   usually breaks in the middle that we [TS]

01:26:09   take one day we took like a two hour [TS]

01:26:11   break in the middle brother with and [TS]

01:26:15   then usually after the show's done this [TS]

01:26:17   is a bit decompressing time it it's not [TS]

01:26:20   interesting in any way but it exists [TS]

01:26:25   yeah I find interesting like i don't i [TS]

01:26:28   don't have this with anything else but [TS]

01:26:29   there is a kind of we were actually [TS]

01:26:31   discussing it today to start sort of [TS]

01:26:33   unrelated to this but for this show [TS]

01:26:36   I don't know what it is but and we both [TS]

01:26:39   agree that this is the case that we kind [TS]

01:26:42   of feel like we need to talk to each [TS]

01:26:44   other about nothing in particular for a [TS]

01:26:46   while [TS]

01:26:47   yeah before either of us is kind of set [TS]

01:26:50   to go [TS]

01:26:51   mhm and and that's it that's a strange [TS]

01:26:53   thing like it doesn't happen to me with [TS]

01:26:55   other things you know you said you don't [TS]

01:26:57   have the same thing with other shows [TS]

01:26:59   i I don't I don't know what it is but [TS]

01:27:02   for some reason I know that I i could [TS]

01:27:05   not possibly just walk into an episode [TS]

01:27:07   cold that they're there is this phase of [TS]

01:27:11   warming up that is absolutely required [TS]

01:27:13   and sometimes is hilariously long and [TS]

01:27:18   when you're saying about the there comes [TS]

01:27:20   a moment were both saying like are you [TS]

01:27:21   ready are you ready I am always aware of [TS]

01:27:24   how often we then have another little [TS]

01:27:26   diversion after that point it's like all [TS]

01:27:28   the recording equipment setup like okay [TS]

01:27:30   we're great in theory we should start [TS]

01:27:33   the show at that moment but one or the [TS]

01:27:35   other of us just brings up something [TS]

01:27:37   that we end up talking about for a while [TS]

01:27:38   it is really strange and it is why [TS]

01:27:41   honestly i set my entire day like [TS]

01:27:45   nothing else will go in the diary on [TS]

01:27:46   thursdays because it it this to it just [TS]

01:27:50   takes that amount of time and I'm really [TS]

01:27:52   proud of the show and I believe that it [TS]

01:27:55   takes six hours for us to get 90 minutes [TS]

01:27:57   and if that's what it takes and then [TS]

01:27:59   i'll keep giving it that [TS]

01:28:00   yeah and that's why this can be on the [TS]

01:28:01   easy way for you is like this is the [TS]

01:28:03   only thing that you have to do you know [TS]

01:28:05   you know it's the single got that right [TS]

01:28:06   your task quiet week super quiet week [TS]

01:28:10   super quiet week [TS]

01:28:12   how long is the gap usually between [TS]

01:28:14   recording and posting so typically we [TS]

01:28:17   record on Thursday and release them on [TS]

01:28:20   monday [TS]

01:28:21   typically if we don't release on monday [TS]

01:28:25   it's probably been 24 hours since [TS]

01:28:28   recorded attention to me the way that it [TS]

01:28:31   goes right like we're recording this [TS]

01:28:33   it's thursday and our will probably be [TS]

01:28:36   out friday because if it's if we haven't [TS]

01:28:40   because we're late we're super light [TS]

01:28:41   like we really like this week like a [TS]

01:28:43   weekly at this point I'm but yeah that [TS]

01:28:45   tends to be how it goes right we'd be [TS]

01:28:47   kind of get it out over a weekend mostly [TS]

01:28:50   yeah i feel like these these are the two [TS]

01:28:52   modes there's Mike is happy with the [TS]

01:28:55   schedule mode which is we record on [TS]

01:28:57   Thursday and it goes up on monday and [TS]

01:28:59   then there's oh no we need a cortex and [TS]

01:29:03   there was some reason why the regular [TS]

01:29:05   schedule didn't work and then because in [TS]

01:29:08   particular like your schedule is very [TS]

01:29:10   booked it hard for you to necessarily [TS]

01:29:13   find time to record like a random other [TS]

01:29:16   show that's going to suck up your entire [TS]

01:29:17   day that yes otherwise we have shows [TS]

01:29:21   they're like recorded one day and then [TS]

01:29:23   put up the next day and admit this show [TS]

01:29:25   is going to be that case and the the [TS]

01:29:28   previous one recorder was the same as [TS]

01:29:29   well I think rightly recorded it and [TS]

01:29:31   then it was up the following day I don't [TS]

01:29:33   even know anymore [TS]

01:29:34   yeah I'm pretty sure the the last one [TS]

01:29:36   was a was up at less than 24 hours after [TS]

01:29:39   record it so so if those are the two [TS]

01:29:42   focus with the two ways that this is [TS]

01:29:44   done but I much prefer the other way [TS]

01:29:46   because what's going to happen today is [TS]

01:29:48   we will finish recording i will take a [TS]

01:29:52   break for an hour and then I will listen [TS]

01:29:54   back to what we just recorded that's [TS]

01:29:57   tough man that's tough to relive the [TS]

01:30:00   conversation you just had but yeah I [TS]

01:30:03   have specific for anyone who who doesn't [TS]

01:30:06   do this kind of work like I i have had [TS]

01:30:09   to do that with podcasts a number of [TS]

01:30:10   times where it's like you just spent [TS]

01:30:12   three hours recording and now you have [TS]

01:30:14   to edit you talking for the previous [TS]

01:30:17   three hours [TS]

01:30:18   is it is not fun I get it is not fun at [TS]

01:30:22   all [TS]

01:30:22   i partly partly because you don't [TS]

01:30:24   necessarily have a lot of distance from [TS]

01:30:25   the conversation that you have just had [TS]

01:30:27   and so it i think it is much harder to [TS]

01:30:30   work to edit immediately after it is and [TS]

01:30:33   I find when I do that I am vastly more [TS]

01:30:36   aware of all the kind of of ways that [TS]

01:30:39   conversations go when you're not good at [TS]

01:30:41   explaining yourself like you think you [TS]

01:30:42   said a thing in a correct way and you [TS]

01:30:45   realize like oh I actually did a [TS]

01:30:46   terrible job explaining what i was [TS]

01:30:48   trying to say I I find if I editor show [TS]

01:30:50   immediately after recording all of that [TS]

01:30:53   stuff is way worse like I'm just much [TS]

01:30:54   more aware of it and it is harder [TS]

01:30:56   because you don't have a little bit of [TS]

01:30:58   distance from the show itself if anyone [TS]

01:31:01   ever record the podcast out there the [TS]

01:31:02   edited later i really recommend giving [TS]

01:31:04   it at least one day like 11 sleep cycle [TS]

01:31:08   before you go into the editing process I [TS]

01:31:11   think that really helps just to give [TS]

01:31:13   yourself a little bit of distance from [TS]

01:31:15   the thing that you've just made so I'll [TS]

01:31:17   addendum here which is it depends on the [TS]

01:31:19   show so all of pretty much all of my [TS]

01:31:22   other shows they're posted on the same [TS]

01:31:25   day that they're recorded but I added [TS]

01:31:27   them differently so that's it that's a [TS]

01:31:29   very different editing priority for work [TS]

01:31:31   for that was supposed to say with one of [TS]

01:31:33   my shows like connected or upgrade their [TS]

01:31:36   like news focus shows the way that i [TS]

01:31:38   added those shows as whilst i'm [TS]

01:31:39   recording i take notes of the parts that [TS]

01:31:41   need to be fixed you know maybe we [TS]

01:31:43   talked over each other or right with [TS]

01:31:45   somebody kind of stumbled a little bit [TS]

01:31:47   and then I'll go in and I'll just fix [TS]

01:31:49   those specific parts so i can add it a [TS]

01:31:52   90-minute show in 15-20 minutes because [TS]

01:31:56   we're doing is just cleaning out [TS]

01:31:57   specific parts of the way that we added [TS]

01:31:59   this show which is the next question is [TS]

01:32:01   how long does the editing process take [TS]

01:32:03   and with this show and I do this with [TS]

01:32:05   maybe one or two other shows [TS]

01:32:07   I and we listened to the whole show and [TS]

01:32:11   edit all of the audio so this can be [TS]

01:32:14   like restructuring things cutting parts [TS]

01:32:16   out snipping outwards cutting out on [TS]

01:32:18   some arse and stuff like that there is a [TS]

01:32:21   very different style of editing and it [TS]

01:32:24   is nice to have a break between those [TS]

01:32:26   and for me one of the benefits i have [TS]

01:32:29   from the break is let's say I take like [TS]

01:32:31   a day or two before [TS]

01:32:32   back to it it just percolates my brain a [TS]

01:32:34   little bit and i'll just be like i'll be [TS]

01:32:37   doing something and a part of the [TS]

01:32:39   conversation will pop into my brain and [TS]

01:32:40   I'll be like yeah I'm going to cut that [TS]

01:32:41   bit blue it's red and then when i come [TS]

01:32:43   back to it [TS]

01:32:44   I've already had the thoughts and it's [TS]

01:32:45   easier for me to do it but when i'm just [TS]

01:32:47   going straight back in again I have to [TS]

01:32:49   make a lot of those decisions as they're [TS]

01:32:50   happening which is a bit trickier for me [TS]

01:32:52   yeah that is the number one benefit that [TS]

01:32:55   you get from time away from a project is [TS]

01:32:58   it's easier to recognize what parts [TS]

01:33:00   don't belong which actually to tie this [TS]

01:33:03   back to the very thing that was talking [TS]

01:33:05   about in the beginning is part of the [TS]

01:33:07   reason why like that one of the videos [TS]

01:33:09   are released the three electoral college [TS]

01:33:11   video games not as good and I can see [TS]

01:33:13   it's not as good because I never had any [TS]

01:33:15   time away from that to realize like oh I [TS]

01:33:18   can restructure this and move this [TS]

01:33:19   around her like this thing in the [TS]

01:33:20   beginning is obviously like nobody cares [TS]

01:33:22   why you even talking about it right when [TS]

01:33:24   you're just doing a thing immediately [TS]

01:33:26   its way harder to see that and so yeah [TS]

01:33:29   I'm I'll back it up entirely like more [TS]

01:33:31   distance between the editing and [TS]

01:33:33   creation phase results in better [TS]

01:33:36   products by far then I do think it's [TS]

01:33:39   funny that you don't take notes for this [TS]

01:33:42   show about what needs fixing because you [TS]

01:33:45   know ways like all of it needs fixed [TS]

01:33:47   right you know you're recording it in a [TS]

01:33:50   very different way that there's a [TS]

01:33:52   there's a reason all of my shows are [TS]

01:33:53   done in this kind of very heavy editing [TS]

01:33:55   intense fashion because I'm not [TS]

01:33:58   necessarily the best extemporaneous [TS]

01:34:00   speaker in the world and so like this [TS]

01:34:03   this helps make the show easier for the [TS]

01:34:06   listener to digest right rather than [TS]

01:34:09   easier for the producer to produce that [TS]

01:34:13   is a self-fulfilling in a way that the [TS]

01:34:15   extemporaneous part because you lean [TS]

01:34:19   into the fact that you know the edits [TS]

01:34:21   happening this is a subconscious thing [TS]

01:34:23   because for example i am way worse [TS]

01:34:26   extemporaneously talking on this show [TS]

01:34:28   than any of my other shows because i [TS]

01:34:30   know there's something in the back of my [TS]

01:34:32   brain that tells me it could just be [TS]

01:34:33   fixed later i need to cut myself on this [TS]

01:34:36   show in ways that doesn't happen on my [TS]

01:34:39   other shows little it's very strange but [TS]

01:34:42   it's like yeah this is what it is and I [TS]

01:34:43   prefer the show cut that [TS]

01:34:45   I but it is a strange thing that my [TS]

01:34:47   brain does it's like maybe two or three [TS]

01:34:50   shows that i do where somebody will [TS]

01:34:52   listen before it's done and and I am way [TS]

01:34:55   was at expressing myself and no shows in [TS]

01:34:57   a coherent manner [TS]

01:34:59   yeah i mean this is this is this is a [TS]

01:35:00   whole other topic for a whole other time [TS]

01:35:02   but there's there is a huge difference [TS]

01:35:04   between producing something live when [TS]

01:35:09   you know an audience is listening and [TS]

01:35:10   producing something when you know that [TS]

01:35:12   it is not live and it is going to be [TS]

01:35:13   heavily edited later and I think that my [TS]

01:35:17   skill sets do not line up very well with [TS]

01:35:20   the live production and line up much [TS]

01:35:22   better with the heavy post-production [TS]

01:35:24   and that that's part of the way i do [TS]

01:35:26   that this way there is only one time [TS]

01:35:28   that mean you have recorded life right [TS]

01:35:31   that's right when we did the when you're [TS]

01:35:33   part of the real icon connected event [TS]

01:35:35   that we did with in san francisco and it [TS]

01:35:37   wasn't cortex [TS]

01:35:39   yeah it was something completely [TS]

01:35:40   different yeah go to the link in the [TS]

01:35:43   show notes for anyone who hasn't heard [TS]

01:35:45   that to hear a totally different version [TS]

01:35:50   of me in public [TS]

01:35:52   it was effectively cortex life it was [TS]

01:35:54   like a totally different thing it was a [TS]

01:35:56   performance it was very strange it was [TS]

01:35:58   that good but totally different to the [TS]

01:36:01   show yeah and then and had a mic totally [TS]

01:36:05   on edge the whole time I was railroaded [TS]

01:36:07   yeah it wasn't able to me and not [TS]

01:36:10   necessarily think I want to reproduce [TS]

01:36:11   all the time [TS]

01:36:12   no i got like my heart can't take that [TS]

01:36:14   I've been only what you're going to do [TS]

01:36:16   is terrifying but the question from [TS]

01:36:19   contours how long is the editing process [TS]

01:36:20   take now for me and it takes effectively [TS]

01:36:23   two minutes to every minute that you [TS]

01:36:25   here right [TS]

01:36:27   so if it is an hour long it took me [TS]

01:36:29   about two hours to do and that's kind of [TS]

01:36:32   like a good average so it takes me about [TS]

01:36:34   twice the amount of time to get the Edit [TS]

01:36:36   done [TS]

01:36:36   whoo yeah then when you're done with the [TS]

01:36:39   Edit it's passed to me through dropbox [TS]

01:36:41   for editing in logic and I do another [TS]

01:36:46   listen through and because you have done [TS]

01:36:49   the heavy lifting in the edit it [TS]

01:36:51   probably takes me about a minute in 10 [TS]

01:36:54   seconds on average for every minute of [TS]

01:36:56   actual content so I'm i mostly listening [TS]

01:36:58   through to the show and making a few [TS]

01:37:01   minor changes or cutting out a few [TS]

01:37:03   things but it's it's not remotely the [TS]

01:37:05   amount of work that you're doing and [TS]

01:37:07   that's that's why it can take me much [TS]

01:37:09   less time to do the other than it takes [TS]

01:37:11   you to do besides youtube uploading what [TS]

01:37:15   is the least liked part of creating and [TS]

01:37:17   posting an episode with your answer to [TS]

01:37:20   this mic for me is the actual posting of [TS]

01:37:22   the audio nothing's ever gone wrong but [TS]

01:37:27   eventually it will and the fact that [TS]

01:37:31   we've posted this will be the 40th time [TS]

01:37:34   and there's never been a disaster means [TS]

01:37:37   it's only getting closer until the point [TS]

01:37:38   where like the audio is out of sync or [TS]

01:37:41   something like that and it doesn't [TS]

01:37:43   matter i notice matter how many times I [TS]

01:37:45   check it which i do many many times [TS]

01:37:47   eventually I'm going to get it wrong [TS]

01:37:48   that's yours part it is like the [TS]

01:37:50   immediate 30 minutes after posting to [TS]

01:37:52   just wait if I did it wrong [TS]

01:37:54   yeah it is so easy to mess up at the [TS]

01:37:58   last second when you doing in exports [TS]

01:37:59   for do like what especially with our [TS]

01:38:01   like insane house of cards that we set [TS]

01:38:04   because recently we've come across this [TS]

01:38:06   bug that when gray sends me back the [TS]

01:38:08   audio there's like this horrific noise [TS]

01:38:10   gate compression put on it I have to fix [TS]

01:38:12   and we cannot look out why this is [TS]

01:38:14   happening but it is and it's like this [TS]

01:38:17   is all these little things that we are [TS]

01:38:19   using logic in a way that it shouldn't [TS]

01:38:21   be used with like two people working on [TS]

01:38:23   the same file like yeah it is obviously [TS]

01:38:26   not designed for this and we have [TS]

01:38:28   obviously run into bugs where it's like [TS]

01:38:31   there's something about the fact that [TS]

01:38:33   we're sharing this file that is messing [TS]

01:38:34   it up and so-and-so listeners if one day [TS]

01:38:38   my voice sounds like terrible quality in [TS]

01:38:42   the podcast you know what happened right [TS]

01:38:44   is like this this thing that we have to [TS]

01:38:45   manually fix each time that we can't [TS]

01:38:47   figure out why it occurs like we missed [TS]

01:38:49   it this time like that's it's just going [TS]

01:38:51   to happen it's going to happen one of [TS]

01:38:52   these days now like these little things [TS]

01:38:55   that we have to do where we have to [TS]

01:38:56   confirm to each other the size of the [TS]

01:38:58   file present backwards and forwards [TS]

01:39:00   because it's just yeah we're we're [TS]

01:39:02   really kind of stretching it to its to [TS]

01:39:04   its limit [TS]

01:39:05   yeah it shouldn't be used this way we [TS]

01:39:07   should probably be switching to [TS]

01:39:08   something like the adobe suite maybe [TS]

01:39:11   basic collaborative audio editing i [TS]

01:39:13   doubt it they do they have a whole [TS]

01:39:15   section 14 projects for the various yeah [TS]

01:39:17   really well we could talk about it later [TS]

01:39:20   oh ok then well my is just picked up i [TS]

01:39:24   was just investigating this morning but [TS]

01:39:25   they have a whole section for [TS]

01:39:27   cloud-based collaboration project [TS]

01:39:29   between teams [TS]

01:39:30   ok we can add it at the same time [TS]

01:39:34   oh can you imagine well I've been a [TS]

01:39:37   nightmare [TS]

01:39:38   let's not do that what's your least like [TS]

01:39:40   pop my least favorite part is that you [TS]

01:39:42   are a slave driver with the schedule III [TS]

01:39:44   I I don't like schedules that's not [TS]

01:39:49   clear to my audience by now I don't know [TS]

01:39:51   what could possibly make it more clear [TS]

01:39:52   but good god do I not like schedules I [TS]

01:39:56   think schedules are antique creative I [TS]

01:39:58   just personally don't like them and Mike [TS]

01:40:01   over here is a task driver he's always [TS]

01:40:04   got the whip out he's like it's time to [TS]

01:40:05   record another cortex always like we [TS]

01:40:07   just recorded a cortex and he's like no [TS]

01:40:09   it's actually been two weeks but there's [TS]

01:40:11   something about the like the regular [TS]

01:40:13   newness of it that it really does slowly [TS]

01:40:16   drive me crazy you need me alive inside [TS]

01:40:18   okay i think the show's battle for it [TS]

01:40:21   how silent shows more frequent for it [TS]

01:40:25   that's for sure [TS]

01:40:26   what are some backstage horror stories [TS]

01:40:29   about the creation of anything cortex [TS]

01:40:32   related i think you have to answer this [TS]

01:40:34   because from my perspective everything [TS]

01:40:35   is smooth but that's because i do a [TS]

01:40:38   vastly smaller portion of the work [TS]

01:40:40   alright well i have one ok there was an [TS]

01:40:43   episode recorded last summer I think it [TS]

01:40:47   was the one before we were complaining [TS]

01:40:50   about how hard it was it was there was [TS]

01:40:53   one episode where mean you spent an [TS]

01:40:54   amount of time complaining about the [TS]

01:40:55   heat now you because I wouldn't let you [TS]

01:40:58   have your air conditioning on because [TS]

01:41:00   yeah the episode the week before i think [TS]

01:41:02   it was in our first 10 maybe or like [TS]

01:41:04   that one previous you left your air [TS]

01:41:07   conditioning on blue and it could be [TS]

01:41:10   clearly heard in the audio and I tried [TS]

01:41:13   to minimize that and I was trying to fix [TS]

01:41:16   that edit from the early afternoon until [TS]

01:41:19   about 2am trying to get the audio to be [TS]

01:41:23   cleaner that will you give [TS]

01:41:24   me and I have a very clear memory [TS]

01:41:28   sitting downstairs in my current house [TS]

01:41:31   on the sofa because i couldn't be in the [TS]

01:41:36   bedroom anymore because edina was [TS]

01:41:38   sleeping and I was sweating out of heat [TS]

01:41:42   and frustration at 2am trying to make [TS]

01:41:47   your audio possible that is the biggest [TS]

01:41:50   horror story and that is why I will not [TS]

01:41:52   like gray have the air-conditioning on [TS]

01:41:54   anymore i can add that to my list at [TS]

01:41:56   least favorite things about creating the [TS]

01:41:58   show is that Mike won't let me run my [TS]

01:42:00   air-conditioning while recording this is [TS]

01:42:02   for you listener because that episode I [TS]

01:42:04   hate the way that one sounds because you [TS]

01:42:07   can hear the air conditioning and it [TS]

01:42:08   cuts in and out every now and then it's [TS]

01:42:10   oh it's terrible [TS]

01:42:12   yeah but I was thirty percent more [TS]

01:42:14   comfortable what happened [TS]

01:42:17   haha good really good really hear the [TS]

01:42:21   emotion in your voice there Mike it's [TS]

01:42:23   just not if you like ninety percent more [TS]

01:42:25   than maybe I could swing it [TS]

01:42:27   thirty percent is not enough man ok [TS]

01:42:30   on average how much of the wrong [TS]

01:42:32   recording is posted as he says if you [TS]

01:42:35   see 90-minute see that was like three [TS]

01:42:37   and a half hours of stuff that's [TS]

01:42:38   unusable [TS]

01:42:39   yeah however i think we have a pretty [TS]

01:42:42   good ratio of when we actually seriously [TS]

01:42:45   start recording the show and when we [TS]

01:42:47   seriously stop recording the show I [TS]

01:42:50   think I mean that ratio has to be like [TS]

01:42:52   ninety percent of what we record really [TS]

01:42:55   for the show makes it in these days it's [TS]

01:42:57   probably about max 10 minutes get cut [TS]

01:43:00   whoo yeah we have a very focused show it [TS]

01:43:05   when we begin but it and i think it [TS]

01:43:09   the focus is hated by the fact that we [TS]

01:43:11   have guests for a while [TS]

01:43:13   yeah exactly because I believe in the [TS]

01:43:16   show being focused because of the [TS]

01:43:18   underlining thing that we're talking [TS]

01:43:21   about which is productivity right into [TS]

01:43:24   the way that we work in the way that [TS]

01:43:26   people work i think having a focus show [TS]

01:43:29   with a nice outline that feels right to [TS]

01:43:32   me a little [TS]

01:43:35   how do you feel I mean I i love the fact [TS]

01:43:38   that you have a bunch of topics that you [TS]

01:43:42   outline because again as as the theme [TS]

01:43:46   with the entirety of the [TS]

01:43:47   behind-the-scenes production of the show [TS]

01:43:49   it means that i can do less which is one [TS]

01:43:51   of the reasons why the show can exist in [TS]

01:43:53   the first place [TS]

01:43:54   this is the thing right like i will i [TS]

01:43:56   will write the outline i will prepare i [TS]

01:43:59   wore you know take the first edit post [TS]

01:44:02   the show make the youtube video all you [TS]

01:44:04   need to do is show up every second [TS]

01:44:05   Thursday it's not hot in case you get [TS]

01:44:12   dull listeners mike is driving at a [TS]

01:44:14   thing that we've been talking about [TS]

01:44:15   making is making a little points on the [TS]

01:44:21   show only once every second Thursday you [TS]

01:44:24   know you to show up every second [TS]

01:44:26   Thursday and it's all taken care of some [TS]

01:44:28   nice so frequent a peacoat xmas [TS]

01:44:32   everybody okay [TS]