5: Child Service Intervals


00:00:00   speaking of license plate i was behind [TS]

00:00:02   someone from Tennessee recently and I'm [TS]

00:00:04   pretty sure they use their states shape [TS]

00:00:06   as a hyphen [TS]

00:00:07   okay that's very common how does that to [TS]

00:00:09   this disgusting looking like the worst [TS]

00:00:15   the worst hyphen it's terrible it's you [TS]

00:00:18   know its shape Tennessee is right it's [TS]

00:00:19   not hyphen shape you like it it's it [TS]

00:00:23   looks like a lovely intern finish of [TS]

00:00:24   someone's butt is like laying between [TS]

00:00:25   years three sets of you two sets of [TS]

00:00:28   numbers and letters and its just oh I [TS]

00:00:30   just did not like it [TS]

00:00:31   no that's terrible and was present with [TS]

00:00:35   Tennessee plates doing in our state [TS]

00:00:36   anyway get the matter i mentioned in the [TS]

00:00:38   last episode my friend shown in [TS]

00:00:40   Connecticut he ran a nissan 240sx and I [TS]

00:00:44   thought it was with winter tires and he [TS]

00:00:46   wrote in to correct me and say no you [TS]

00:00:49   moron actually that had summer tires and [TS]

00:00:51   I still made it work in the snow as [TS]

00:00:52   silly as it might have been but the [TS]

00:00:55   other thing he said which I thought was [TS]

00:00:56   really interesting was and i'm gonna [TS]

00:00:57   read the read the email one final [TS]

00:01:00   comment that's probably completely [TS]

00:01:01   off-topic not all boxer motor sound [TS]

00:01:03   terrible [TS]

00:01:04   Porsches flats it Porsches flat-six [TS]

00:01:06   sounds downright amazing so white subaru [TS]

00:01:09   doesn't do it well from the factory so [TS]

00:01:12   the white while the white subaru doesn't [TS]

00:01:13   do it well from factory it can be done [TS]

00:01:16   and we also got in got a Levendi million [TS]

00:01:19   other people right in about the fact [TS]

00:01:21   that Porsha's sound very good block as [TS]

00:01:24   to why others aren't using them they're [TS]

00:01:26   expensive four-cylinder counter for two [TS]

00:01:28   heads when an inline 4 is only going to [TS]

00:01:30   use one etc which I thought was really [TS]

00:01:32   interesting i never thought of that the [TS]

00:01:34   fact that there are actually two [TS]

00:01:35   different heads on a boxer engine which [TS]

00:01:37   for a four-cylinder seems a little [TS]

00:01:38   overkill that in their wide and can be [TS]

00:01:41   hard to fit in a given chassis but [TS]

00:01:43   they're certainly unique and have a [TS]

00:01:44   character all their own or so says the [TS]

00:01:46   two-time owner of Subarus with flat [TS]

00:01:48   fours so I just thought that was kind of [TS]

00:01:49   interesting something I hadn't thought [TS]

00:01:50   of before [TS]

00:01:51   welcome to the world of podcasting Casey [TS]

00:01:54   they're really infinite follow-up i will [TS]

00:01:57   be able to address almost none of it I [TS]

00:01:58   know and and it will keep coming lot [TS]

00:02:02   like so we we've recorded episodes now [TS]

00:02:04   we recorded the first episodes in [TS]

00:02:06   january $MONTH $DAY of $MONTH 2013 in [TS]

00:02:09   2015 you will still be getting people [TS]

00:02:11   who have just discovered the show that [TS]

00:02:13   downloads up [TS]

00:02:13   episodes and are now going to write and [TS]

00:02:15   tell you all the things you were wrong [TS]

00:02:17   about two years ago i'm very much [TS]

00:02:19   looking forward to it [TS]

00:02:20   I enjoyed seeing complete disagreement [TS]

00:02:24   among five people sending an email like [TS]

00:02:26   you definitely need to know times you [TS]

00:02:27   don't need them i live in the tundra and [TS]

00:02:29   you need to my live in the North Pole [TS]

00:02:31   you don't need the rear wheel drive is [TS]

00:02:32   but a firm like no agreement no [TS]

00:02:34   consensus what's up yeah completely [TS]

00:02:35   unhelpful feed thanks but in the only [TS]

00:02:38   other piece of follow-up I had a ck subs [TS]

00:02:43   wrote in do you have any project cars [TS]

00:02:46   now none of us do that was an [TS]

00:02:48   interesting email like that the whole [TS]

00:02:49   concept of of project cars i think is is [TS]

00:02:52   worth discussing like you know like it's [TS]

00:02:54   it's a pretty a pretty big culture of [TS]

00:02:57   people who love buying you know usually [TS]

00:02:59   really old cars and fixing them up and [TS]

00:03:02   working on them and I don't know if it's [TS]

00:03:05   a generational thing or what I never [TS]

00:03:07   even had a little temptation to do that [TS]

00:03:11   like not I have zero including to do [TS]

00:03:14   that because I just I've never had [TS]

00:03:16   anyone else in my life too [TS]

00:03:17   who did that whoo hoo I would want to do [TS]

00:03:20   it with and I'm sure about you guys you [TS]

00:03:25   guys would be useless [TS]

00:03:26   indeed and and I don't know I i'm not [TS]

00:03:29   sure i have the patience for that like I [TS]

00:03:30   think I'd rather you know it back back [TS]

00:03:33   when like the whole story with with the [TS]

00:03:37   founding of apple computer and [TS]

00:03:38   everything how you know they're i think [TS]

00:03:40   i think it was Steve Jobs theory about [TS]

00:03:42   how there were or actually maybe it was [TS]

00:03:45   Bill Gates theory and I think about it [TS]

00:03:46   that they were all these hardware [TS]

00:03:49   hackers but there were a whole bunch of [TS]

00:03:52   people who didn't want to assemble a [TS]

00:03:54   computer themselves from from parts or [TS]

00:03:56   from electrical components and you just [TS]

00:03:58   want to mess around software who just [TS]

00:03:59   want to like use the computer on and [TS]

00:04:02   that's kind of how i feel about about [TS]

00:04:04   messing with car hardware to like I [TS]

00:04:06   don't when I get my car's I I don't want [TS]

00:04:09   to modify them i don't want to work on [TS]

00:04:11   them [TS]

00:04:12   I don't want any access to the inner [TS]

00:04:14   workings really i just i just want to [TS]

00:04:16   use that I just want to enjoy them [TS]

00:04:17   working and I don't really want to [TS]

00:04:19   invest the time into doing anything more [TS]

00:04:23   with the hardware wise is that roughly [TS]

00:04:25   how you guys feel you know [TS]

00:04:27   it's funny my dad actually he had he [TS]

00:04:29   works for IBM now but had this kind of [TS]

00:04:32   weird way of ending up there and there [TS]

00:04:34   was a couple years when he was pretty [TS]

00:04:36   young that he was a professional [TS]

00:04:37   mechanic for buick and so seven a lot of [TS]

00:04:40   work it [TS]

00:04:42   y-you oh my god he had exactly those [TS]

00:04:45   lots of space to work in those cars [TS]

00:04:47   well it's funny you say that because I i [TS]

00:04:49   know you say that slightly jokingly but [TS]

00:04:51   that's actually legitimately true and so [TS]

00:04:53   to this day he has a 1970 dodge dart [TS]

00:04:55   swinger 340 that he's bored and stroked [TS]

00:04:59   and i want to say it's like 406 cubes [TS]

00:05:01   now and he basically rebuilt that motor [TS]

00:05:04   from the block up in before that car he [TS]

00:05:08   had a 1977 corvette that had for all [TS]

00:05:13   intents and purposes been my only older [TS]

00:05:15   sibling on the eldest of three boys and [TS]

00:05:17   that car was basically my older brother [TS]

00:05:19   or sister depending on how you look at [TS]

00:05:20   it and at one point he had actually [TS]

00:05:23   totaled the car and then rebuilt it from [TS]

00:05:26   the frame-up and this was when i was [TS]

00:05:27   like 10 so this was what early nineties [TS]

00:05:30   and at that point especially in New York [TS]

00:05:32   that was a fairly rare in odd thing for [TS]

00:05:36   a person to rebuild a car from the frame [TS]

00:05:38   up and he is a bit my dad is a very good [TS]

00:05:41   mechanic he is uncanny at diagnosing [TS]

00:05:44   mechanical issues and I got none of [TS]

00:05:47   those jeans and so too [TS]

00:05:49   in short Marco I i mostly feel the same [TS]

00:05:51   way you do I feel like I understand a [TS]

00:05:53   lot in theory although we've gotten a [TS]

00:05:54   lot of feedback that that tells me I'm [TS]

00:05:57   wrong and that I know nothing but in [TS]

00:06:00   application i unequivocally no [TS]

00:06:01   absolutely zilch [TS]

00:06:03   now John I imagine you could fix cars in [TS]

00:06:07   your driveway but if you did fix car [TS]

00:06:09   driver they would end up with a lot of [TS]

00:06:10   small holes in the engine block is that [TS]

00:06:12   is that roughly how that would go and i [TS]

00:06:14   have I come from a similar background [TS]

00:06:16   caseyville maybe not so much my father [TS]

00:06:18   my my grandfather was heavily into cars [TS]

00:06:21   that remember every time I went over to [TS]

00:06:22   my grandfather's house he had his car [TS]

00:06:24   parked in our driveway with the hood [TS]

00:06:26   open it was doing something to it like [TS]

00:06:28   this is it was constantly monkeying [TS]

00:06:30   around with his car but it's not that I [TS]

00:06:32   didn't get those jeans like when i was a [TS]

00:06:33   kid i made real control cars which is [TS]

00:06:36   you know like that the training wheels [TS]

00:06:38   version of a big car that's pretty cool [TS]

00:06:40   and yet but those you know but as I [TS]

00:06:43   guess they get bigger [TS]

00:06:44   I viewed as i went to adult that I've [TS]

00:06:46   used cars the same way that we probably [TS]

00:06:47   now have you someone who has a boat it's [TS]

00:06:50   like a giant pit where you shove money [TS]

00:06:53   like because they're they're just so [TS]

00:06:54   expensive and you can spend unlimited [TS]

00:06:57   money on car stuff you know no matter no [TS]

00:07:00   matter what you the every part of a car [TS]

00:07:02   can be tremendously expensive and where [TS]

00:07:04   you know it's not that's not where the [TS]

00:07:06   the pit that water money to go down the [TS]

00:07:08   pit that I wanted my mind to go down [TS]

00:07:09   head like cpus in it and ram which the [TS]

00:07:12   different that you can shove money into [TS]

00:07:13   which is also almost as deep but way [TS]

00:07:16   less money though I don't know [TS]

00:07:18   well I really depends on what you do [TS]

00:07:19   because some people some people have a [TS]

00:07:21   complete complete all consumed hobby was [TS]

00:07:24   messin with their cars and it does not [TS]

00:07:25   cross more than our copies are happy [TS]

00:07:27   buying you know iPads and computers and [TS]

00:07:29   data plans for our cell phones and stuff [TS]

00:07:31   but i really like you know i have used [TS]

00:07:33   cars transportation and I didn't want to [TS]

00:07:35   be messing with something that also had [TS]

00:07:38   to serve you know because I can mess [TS]

00:07:39   with my computer I screw up my computer [TS]

00:07:40   so what right it's not a big deal i got [TS]

00:07:43   her own computer that I don't screw with [TS]

00:07:45   and everything's fine but if I was [TS]

00:07:48   messing with the cards like all you you [TS]

00:07:49   know one of the cars out of commission [TS]

00:07:51   because i'm not changing the head gasket [TS]

00:07:53   like well you know I needed that car an [TS]

00:07:54   outside you know I don't wanna mess with [TS]

00:07:56   the type of thing that it doesn't have a [TS]

00:07:58   lower there's a lot of like expensive [TS]

00:08:00   hobbies and i can imagine myself being [TS]

00:08:02   into if I wasn't already into so many [TS]

00:08:03   other expensive hobbies and [TS]

00:08:05   time-consuming to ya mate and also i [TS]

00:08:08   think i think it a little bit has to do [TS]

00:08:10   with the weather because if you don't [TS]

00:08:11   have a big kind of heated indoor garage [TS]

00:08:13   to mess with your car car messing with [TS]

00:08:16   season is much shorter in New England [TS]

00:08:19   you know because you're not going to be [TS]

00:08:20   out there in the middle of februari [TS]

00:08:21   deciding that now is the time to change [TS]

00:08:24   your own timing belt because that's just [TS]

00:08:26   no fun that's really a decent segue into [TS]

00:08:29   I want to talk about having multiple [TS]

00:08:32   cars and this is this is kind of a this [TS]

00:08:35   could be a big topic I don't know but so [TS]

00:08:38   so for for my entire adult life until [TS]

00:08:41   last year i only had one car at a time [TS]

00:08:45   and it was it was fine or zero car so [TS]

00:08:48   depending on what time it was [TS]

00:08:50   and last year I i bought the 1m and I [TS]

00:08:55   got it I I was kind of thinking you know [TS]

00:08:57   maybe I maybe I want a fun car because I [TS]

00:08:59   was like I was right in the middle of my [TS]

00:09:01   328 least my 328 with the family car and [TS]

00:09:04   I was and you know it was it wasn't [TS]

00:09:06   quite as fast as I wanted to be and I i [TS]

00:09:08   was interested in the idea of having [TS]

00:09:12   like a small 2-door zip-around car [TS]

00:09:16   because most of the driving i do is [TS]

00:09:17   running local errands by myself usually [TS]

00:09:20   like I'll go out and get lunch everyday [TS]

00:09:22   or most days I do most of the grocery [TS]

00:09:24   shopping [TS]

00:09:25   my wife stays home with the baby and and [TS]

00:09:27   does house stuff so I'm doing most of [TS]

00:09:30   the driving by myself so I thought it'd [TS]

00:09:32   be nice to have a little fun car but at [TS]

00:09:34   the same time I also need a family car [TS]

00:09:37   that I like to drive because on family [TS]

00:09:39   trips i'm using the driver because [TS]

00:09:40   that's what I like so I didn't want to [TS]

00:09:42   just have tips car be a family car one [TS]

00:09:44   that I could drive my car was also [TS]

00:09:46   bigger so it's better as a family car [TS]

00:09:48   anyway and it's better all-wheel drive [TS]

00:09:51   and everything else and doesn't have the [TS]

00:09:53   lexus touchscreen which I hate [TS]

00:09:55   so I got the idea in my head [TS]

00:09:58   oh maybe I'll start looking for like a [TS]

00:10:01   like a 135 and and then of course are [TS]

00:10:04   looking at the 1m as a as a possible [TS]

00:10:06   like reach and i was looking at listings [TS]

00:10:08   for for a probably a good six months and [TS]

00:10:11   I I eventually found one that I thought [TS]

00:10:12   was a fantastic deal and jumped on it [TS]

00:10:14   and it was but you know having so now i [TS]

00:10:18   have i have two cars that are mine and [TS]

00:10:20   one cards my wife's and this is not that [TS]

00:10:24   I recognize this is a tremendous you [TS]

00:10:25   know first world problems / white wine [TS]

00:10:28   this is it this is obviously you know [TS]

00:10:31   not not a problem per se but there are a [TS]

00:10:34   lot of annoyances about having multiple [TS]

00:10:37   cars and so you know and it's kinda like [TS]

00:10:41   having multiple computers in in this in [TS]

00:10:44   a lot of sense is actually so are you [TS]

00:10:47   know that the most obvious problem with [TS]

00:10:49   having multiple cars is where do you [TS]

00:10:51   store them where do you put them if you [TS]

00:10:53   have a garage do you have enough space [TS]

00:10:55   in your garage for for all your cars or [TS]

00:10:57   do some of them have to live outside of [TS]

00:10:58   the garage or in the same thing if you [TS]

00:11:00   have a driveway energy enough space to [TS]

00:11:03   park one this [TS]

00:11:04   if you don't have a garage or driveway [TS]

00:11:05   and you need to park all of your cars in [TS]

00:11:08   the street is there enough space on the [TS]

00:11:09   street and if you have to move your car [TS]

00:11:13   like once a week for street cleaning or [TS]

00:11:14   something like that [TS]

00:11:16   do you want to have to move two cars he [TS]

00:11:18   really does basically i I've never [TS]

00:11:22   really loved the idea of having like a [TS]

00:11:24   driveway full of cars could and then [TS]

00:11:25   like you know what happens when you want [TS]

00:11:27   to take one out you got you know you [TS]

00:11:29   gotta move car a two-car be in or out of [TS]

00:11:31   the driveway or the garage and [TS]

00:11:32   everybody's moving cars so it's annoying [TS]

00:11:36   so for us we have our driveways two cars [TS]

00:11:39   wide and we have a two-car garage and a [TS]

00:11:42   fairly small one at that [TS]

00:11:44   but because it's an old house it's not [TS]

00:11:46   like the new house where a two-car [TS]

00:11:47   garage was pretty much like a two-car + [TS]

00:11:50   17 motorcycle garage they have a lot of [TS]

00:11:52   free space ours is not that side so [TS]

00:11:56   we're doing the car stuff all the time [TS]

00:11:58   now it and that's that's pretty annoying [TS]

00:12:01   there's also like other small things [TS]

00:12:03   there's you know there's multiple [TS]

00:12:05   registrations multiple licenses to deal [TS]

00:12:08   with multiple inspections you have to [TS]

00:12:10   get every couple of years i have to have [TS]

00:12:12   different easy passes for the different [TS]

00:12:14   cars we had and like little things you [TS]

00:12:16   have different ice scrapers for hey [TS]

00:12:18   let's give a nice great british car i [TS]

00:12:20   have to have you know like I my I don't [TS]

00:12:22   keep that much in my car generally [TS]

00:12:24   speaking for like creature comfort stuff [TS]

00:12:26   I basically keep attend of altoids and a [TS]

00:12:30   little bottle of some kind of hand [TS]

00:12:32   sanitizer so if I pump gas in my hand [TS]

00:12:34   smells like the crappy gas pump smell [TS]

00:12:36   then i can i can squirt it on my hand [TS]

00:12:38   and have it not smell so then like that [TS]

00:12:41   that's two things have to keep stocked [TS]

00:12:42   in both cars so i have to have you know [TS]

00:12:44   like my gas and liquid and my Altoids [TS]

00:12:47   keeping keep stocked in both cars like [TS]

00:12:49   it's a little annoying things like that [TS]

00:12:50   and there's always like there's the oh [TS]

00:12:54   that's in the other car syndrome which [TS]

00:12:56   is very anybody with the anybody with [TS]

00:13:00   multiple computers always know that that [TS]

00:13:02   files on my other computer you know it's [TS]

00:13:04   like that same thing with cars like if [TS]

00:13:05   you have something in the trunk grocery [TS]

00:13:07   bags or you know stuff like that you [TS]

00:13:09   know stuff for the baby you know [TS]

00:13:11   whatever it is [TS]

00:13:12   oh I i think i have that thing in my [TS]

00:13:13   trunk and you go to the grocery store [TS]

00:13:15   and yours are all my bags or anything [TS]

00:13:16   car but there's there's little things [TS]

00:13:18   like that that that build up and get [TS]

00:13:21   pretty annoying and there's also like [TS]

00:13:23   more hot me no more noise things like [TS]

00:13:26   you have multiple maintenance schedules [TS]

00:13:28   for the cars when you have multiple cars [TS]

00:13:31   there's there's more of a chance that [TS]

00:13:33   any given time . something's going to go [TS]

00:13:36   wrong on one of them you know or [TS]

00:13:38   something or something is going to need [TS]

00:13:39   maintenance so you end up spending more [TS]

00:13:41   time getting your car maintain or doing [TS]

00:13:43   it yourself so there's there's all these [TS]

00:13:45   quite significant costs in in either [TS]

00:13:49   money or time or annoyance in having [TS]

00:13:53   multiple cars so I've decided that my [TS]

00:13:57   next car that I get which I guess we'll [TS]

00:13:59   talk about shortly my next car i get i [TS]

00:14:02   I've decided to consolidate and i'm [TS]

00:14:05   probably going to sell the 1m this [TS]

00:14:07   summer and consolidate into you know [TS]

00:14:10   rather than having a rather than having [TS]

00:14:14   one big car and one fun car i'd rather [TS]

00:14:18   just have one big fun car so i know what [TS]

00:14:23   you guys think about having his case you [TS]

00:14:25   you still have you got your like 17 [TS]

00:14:27   white super in your driveway right yeah [TS]

00:14:30   I do have one and only one white super [TS]

00:14:32   in my driveway so really quickly the the [TS]

00:14:35   story there is that like I have not [TS]

00:14:38   talked about ad nauseam [TS]

00:14:39   you know I found this 335 pounced on it [TS]

00:14:41   fairly quickly and it was a internet [TS]

00:14:45   dealer in the sense that they didn't [TS]

00:14:46   really have a showroom it wasn't a BMW [TS]

00:14:49   dealer it was just a kind of a few guys [TS]

00:14:51   in some warehouse outside philly that's [TS]

00:14:54   not sandwiches at all it's in all my [TS]

00:14:56   Connie was so sketchy driving up to it [TS]

00:14:58   but actually they had unbelievable cars [TS]

00:14:59   there in any case and then they were BMW [TS]

00:15:02   concentrated but regardless of that we [TS]

00:15:05   did that whole deal without involving [TS]

00:15:08   the subaru at all and so the subaru has [TS]

00:15:10   been sitting out front waiting to get [TS]

00:15:12   sold to like a climax or some other [TS]

00:15:15   dealer since sep tember or somesuch and [TS]

00:15:19   I there have been times that I could [TS]

00:15:21   justifiably teaches taking the subaru [TS]

00:15:24   over the BMW like for example it snowing [TS]

00:15:27   like if it's snowing because I've summer [TS]

00:15:29   tires on the [TS]

00:15:30   when that all joking aside that's it's [TS]

00:15:32   pretty dangerous being out in more than [TS]

00:15:34   a quarter inch of snow in summer tires [TS]

00:15:36   or even in the cold for that matter and [TS]

00:15:39   yet I cannot find a reason to get behind [TS]

00:15:43   the wheel the subaru it's not that I [TS]

00:15:44   don't like the car I mean I do like it [TS]

00:15:46   but it's not it's not my new car it's [TS]

00:15:48   not it's not the thing that I really [TS]

00:15:51   really enjoy driving and so out of pure [TS]

00:15:54   laziness temporary laziness and [TS]

00:15:55   procrastination the super is still [TS]

00:15:58   sitting out there or maybe it's just [TS]

00:16:00   because I really subconsciously enjoy [TS]

00:16:02   you guys making fun of me I don't know [TS]

00:16:03   but it's still sitting out in the [TS]

00:16:04   driveway now the advantage that we have [TS]

00:16:06   is that our driveways just barely big [TS]

00:16:08   enough to be able to squeeze are two [TS]

00:16:10   cars in and out without having to move [TS]

00:16:12   the subaru and I know that your driveway [TS]

00:16:13   like you had said is not like that but [TS]

00:16:16   regardless it's sitting out there [TS]

00:16:18   waiting for me to clean it up and then [TS]

00:16:20   just go give it to a dealer and sell it [TS]

00:16:22   and i'm just lazy and I there's no [TS]

00:16:25   reason for it being there and I want to [TS]

00:16:26   get rid of it so if you if you happen to [TS]

00:16:28   live in richmond virginia and want a [TS]

00:16:29   white super let me know now it's a [TS]

00:16:31   famous white super now it's the same as [TS]

00:16:33   e kc list your dad for so long to write [TS]

00:16:36   something like that [TS]

00:16:38   John what do you think I mean you know [TS]

00:16:41   you and your wife both have cars do you [TS]

00:16:42   have any of these problems with just [TS]

00:16:44   like the practicalities of having [TS]

00:16:45   multiple cars you know when you're [TS]

00:16:47   talking about multiple cars the only [TS]

00:16:49   thing I can think of is that you can [TS]

00:16:51   replay the transcript of the audio from [TS]

00:16:53   that segment and replace car with child [TS]

00:16:56   because almost all the things are [TS]

00:16:57   analogous like especially like the ones [TS]

00:16:59   with like you know one thing going to [TS]

00:17:00   shop there are different service [TS]

00:17:01   intervals one is second i'm not going to [TS]

00:17:04   one is in kindergarten was still you [TS]

00:17:06   know in daycare or preschool and yeah [TS]

00:17:08   it's a it's good training but yet so we [TS]

00:17:11   had multiple cars & R R it's kind of [TS]

00:17:14   like it's because you're used to you are [TS]

00:17:16   used to not having multiple cars that [TS]

00:17:18   all this is weird because we're kind of [TS]

00:17:19   used to having multiple ones and the [TS]

00:17:21   things we do to deal with it are not [TS]

00:17:24   solutions for you is just kind of like [TS]

00:17:25   that's like your problems are solutions [TS]

00:17:28   so for example up are we have a driveway [TS]

00:17:31   it did if it's two cars on it one behind [TS]

00:17:33   the other two small relatively small [TS]

00:17:35   cars will be on the other and in one [TS]

00:17:36   tiny little carriage sighs garages that [TS]

00:17:39   the cars almost never in [TS]

00:17:40   because it's filled with junk and [TS]

00:17:42   because we don't have an opener and you [TS]

00:17:45   know many other reasons i actually [TS]

00:17:46   showed the civic in it tonight because [TS]

00:17:47   of the snow but that's pretty much the [TS]

00:17:49   only time we put the car in there is a [TS]

00:17:51   if we notice a big snow coming if it [TS]

00:17:53   helps to be able to shovel and plow as [TS]

00:17:55   part of the driveway without having the [TS]

00:17:56   car blocking everything up up but that [TS]

00:17:59   means basically that you know it's that [TS]

00:18:03   you can't get the only card you can get [TS]

00:18:04   out is the one of the end of the [TS]

00:18:05   driveway and so how do we deal with that [TS]

00:18:07   but you know we come home at different [TS]

00:18:09   times stuff like that well we deal with [TS]

00:18:10   it by you know if someone needs to go [TS]

00:18:12   out somewhere they take the car that [TS]

00:18:14   scene at the end of the driveway like [TS]

00:18:16   that's the solution right you know it's [TS]

00:18:17   like a witch's which is your car which [TS]

00:18:19   is your whiskey a stack right yeah i [TS]

00:18:21   mean the only the only violation of that [TS]

00:18:24   I'm the one who's constantly trying to [TS]

00:18:25   cause a violation that rule decided [TS]

00:18:27   don't just take the car that's the end [TS]

00:18:28   of the driveway and then I'll volunteer [TS]

00:18:29   to go out and move the other car because [TS]

00:18:32   i want if anyone is taking the children [TS]

00:18:34   i like to stick the accord because this [TS]

00:18:36   is safer car because it's bigger [TS]

00:18:37   so then it's a two-person job you both [TS]

00:18:39   hop in the car you know one person goes [TS]

00:18:41   in the accord with the kids the other [TS]

00:18:42   person goes the civic specific backs out [TS]

00:18:44   of the driveway the cord comes out the [TS]

00:18:46   silver goes back in right easy pass we [TS]

00:18:49   just have one of them and we just moved [TS]

00:18:50   from car to car because we know you know [TS]

00:18:52   go on toll roads that often when we do [TS]

00:18:53   we just remember to get the e-zpass same [TS]

00:18:55   thing with navigation we got one [TS]

00:18:56   navigation thing we just put them on the [TS]

00:18:58   cards going to navigation at the time so [TS]

00:19:01   those are all those annoyances are just [TS]

00:19:03   like the way we know where we deal with [TS]

00:19:05   our cars right i would love a [TS]

00:19:08   side-by-side driver with two cars [TS]

00:19:09   because that would eliminate a lot of [TS]

00:19:10   the things because I do i am the one who [TS]

00:19:12   is always a stickler for like it look at [TS]

00:19:14   you taking any of the kids take the [TS]

00:19:15   accord my car doesn't matter was going [TS]

00:19:16   to start like just take the card and I [TS]

00:19:19   don't want to move the car move it for [TS]

00:19:20   you you know you always use that voice [TS]

00:19:23   when doing it it's it's a constant you [TS]

00:19:27   know please my wife is not as obsessed [TS]

00:19:29   with taking the accord when she takes so [TS]

00:19:31   I'm just taking one kid is like it [TS]

00:19:32   doesn't matter you know what I mean I [TS]

00:19:34   like having two cars we've had to cart [TS]

00:19:37   we had one car we were first married we [TS]

00:19:38   just had the 92 $YEAR civic and I was [TS]

00:19:39   just the two of us with no kids and [TS]

00:19:41   eventually was to us and a dog and I [TS]

00:19:42   hated having one car because it's like [TS]

00:19:44   single point of failure for like your [TS]

00:19:46   whole life [TS]

00:19:46   shuts down the cars to be in the shop [TS]

00:19:48   and you know the places he would bring [TS]

00:19:51   our Civic to we're not giving us free [TS]

00:19:52   rental cars it's not like a lexus [TS]

00:19:54   dealership [TS]

00:19:54   take out the car while we're working in [TS]

00:19:56   yours not was like well we have your car [TS]

00:19:58   you can take public transportation back [TS]

00:19:59   home or you can sit here for hours and [TS]

00:20:01   wait for it to you so that was always [TS]

00:20:05   problematic right and as that car age [TS]

00:20:08   shows like boy I just I can't we adopt [TS]

00:20:09   it now having two cars like all you know [TS]

00:20:11   it's it's a miracle we can still have a [TS]

00:20:13   functioning life and run errands is [TS]

00:20:14   level 1 cars in the shop so I enjoy it [TS]

00:20:17   and to that end we well now the BMW has [TS]

00:20:23   navigation but the super did not and so [TS]

00:20:25   we only have one ez pass because believe [TS]

00:20:27   it or not easy path stretches all the [TS]

00:20:29   way as far south as we are and in we [TS]

00:20:32   would do the same thing John that you do [TS]

00:20:35   that we would take the e zpass and look [TS]

00:20:36   into the one car that the two of us are [TS]

00:20:38   in for a road trip was aware that you [TS]

00:20:41   can go onto easy passes website and just [TS]

00:20:42   ask for another transponder and another [TS]

00:20:45   set of everything ok you'll be eligible [TS]

00:20:46   for free [TS]

00:20:47   I think they used to charge money for [TS]

00:20:49   that's why we didn't do it we should [TS]

00:20:50   just do it know they are so I could [TS]

00:20:52   swear that that maybe it's a Virginian [TS]

00:20:54   thing but I could swear that they're [TS]

00:20:55   starting to charge money for [TS]

00:20:56   transponders and developer of things you [TS]

00:20:58   can get for free just ask you any other [TS]

00:21:01   things are terrible a museum now they're [TS]

00:21:04   only awesome the first time you stick [TS]

00:21:06   them on [TS]

00:21:06   well yeah if you're single you were if [TS]

00:21:08   you remove not the sticky part the [TS]

00:21:09   velcro part it's like super duper mega [TS]

00:21:12   velcro like wow this is the best work in [TS]

00:21:14   the world but if you take it off and on [TS]

00:21:15   and off and on the velcro part several [TS]

00:21:17   times eventually there goes nope not [TS]

00:21:18   working anymore [TS]

00:21:19   yeah actually not made for that I mean [TS]

00:21:20   that's why that's why I think you should [TS]

00:21:21   just get a second transponder leave and [TS]

00:21:24   maybe they'll charge you five bucks I [TS]

00:21:25   mean it's not gonna be a lot of money [TS]

00:21:26   that I think it's 123 [TS]

00:21:29   ya think I think it's like I great [TS]

00:21:30   getting into the cable box that it's not [TS]

00:21:32   because i have we now have three e-zpass [TS]

00:21:34   transponders I can carry it to you it's [TS]

00:21:36   not monthly and I look at you can time [TS]

00:21:39   it right all the same credit card the [TS]

00:21:40   same account it's really nice anyway [TS]

00:21:41   this episode's sponsored by e-zpass use [TS]

00:21:45   that fast lane for right now i actually [TS]

00:21:47   used to be the best switch to Fastlane [TS]

00:21:49   we keep going back and forth because it [TS]

00:21:50   was a hassle we had easy pass for a [TS]

00:21:52   while and my parents lived in New York [TS]

00:21:53   because I cable will get e-zpass when we [TS]

00:21:56   can use in both places and I think maybe [TS]

00:21:57   Fastlane wasn't using both places back [TS]

00:21:59   then or something but then we kept [TS]

00:22:01   getting the thing where they would send [TS]

00:22:03   us a ticket in the mail because the [TS]

00:22:04   transponder didn't work and they got a [TS]

00:22:06   little picture your license plate and [TS]

00:22:07   got to prove to them that uh you know [TS]

00:22:10   the biggest Fastlane didn't have a [TS]

00:22:12   record of us loading easy pass because [TS]

00:22:13   fast lane was Massachusetts an easy [TS]

00:22:14   password in New York and so you'd have [TS]

00:22:16   to write the e-zpass and get them to [TS]

00:22:18   prove the fast lane that we have a [TS]

00:22:19   transponder and it's just a big mess so [TS]

00:22:21   I think we're back on fast lane to [TS]

00:22:23   remember but yeah they need to get their [TS]

00:22:25   acts together [TS]

00:22:26   hey guys real-time follow-up from ez [TS]

00:22:28   pass vagcom starting September 2012 a [TS]

00:22:31   monthly account maintenance fee will be [TS]

00:22:33   charged to your account if he will be [TS]

00:22:35   fifty cents for each standard [TS]

00:22:36   transponder in one dollar for each flex [TS]

00:22:38   transponder issued after july nine 2012 [TS]

00:22:40   i felt that i am I mean it and it's [TS]

00:22:43   probably worth twelve dollars you're not [TS]

00:22:44   going to have the annoyance but it's [TS]

00:22:46   like the principal you know that i'm [TS]

00:22:48   driving right exactly in to be honest we [TS]

00:22:50   so rarely need an e-zpass that it's we [TS]

00:22:54   almost never use it anyway [TS]

00:22:55   yeah I don't like it being stuck on the [TS]

00:22:56   window i think it's an aesthetic I sorry [TS]

00:22:58   don't around the window what you do it [TS]

00:23:00   once you put it in in the visual shadow [TS]

00:23:03   behind the mirror so that you put this [TS]

00:23:05   on the driver can't see it at all [TS]

00:23:07   some mirrors don't allow that depending [TS]

00:23:09   on how they're attached but we keep ours [TS]

00:23:11   in the glove box that is it's our system [TS]

00:23:13   same here and then we all have the same [TS]

00:23:15   dance with the Valentine one as well [TS]

00:23:17   which by the way we can't put up until [TS]

00:23:19   we leave Virginia but that's a whole [TS]

00:23:20   other story [TS]

00:23:21   whatever anyway so Marco what car you [TS]

00:23:24   buying to fix all your woes [TS]

00:23:26   well before we get to that I was [TS]

00:23:28   thinking about trying the ad read myself [TS]

00:23:29   this week [TS]

00:23:30   what do you think should i should i [TS]

00:23:31   attempt or John to you i do not want to [TS]

00:23:35   be funny . you can give it a go and if [TS]

00:23:37   it doesn't work you can tap your wife [TS]

00:23:39   sounds in a pro k alright so this [TS]

00:23:44   episode like the previous four episodes [TS]

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00:23:49   you know they could be a big script to [TS]

00:23:52   read you know for tips Rita but they're [TS]

00:23:54   pretty cool so I think they're gonna [TS]

00:23:55   they're gonna be fine if i go off-script [TS]

00:23:57   what I like about Squarespace so we put [TS]

00:23:59   our site there and I actually hosted our [TS]

00:24:00   site there before asking to be our [TS]

00:24:02   sponsor just because it made sense and [TS]

00:24:04   it's a little weird coming from me [TS]

00:24:06   because i'm i'm the co-founder I guess [TS]

00:24:09   of tumblr which in some ways compete [TS]

00:24:11   with squarespace but the reason I went [TS]

00:24:13   to squarespace for this was you know [TS]

00:24:16   tumblr and and many other things like [TS]

00:24:18   that but mostly tumblr are [TS]

00:24:20   are made for a lot of different types of [TS]

00:24:23   things but when you just want to put up [TS]

00:24:25   a website for like your business or [TS]

00:24:27   something like Squarespace is way better [TS]

00:24:29   for that it's just it's optimized for [TS]

00:24:30   that tumblr is really more like the [TS]

00:24:32   social posting interaction stuff like [TS]

00:24:34   that Squarespace is made for here's a [TS]

00:24:36   website [TS]

00:24:37   here's a portfolio here's a sight from [TS]

00:24:39   my restaurant my business and even like [TS]

00:24:41   and you can do like blogs are fun too so [TS]

00:24:43   we have a podcast there they will [TS]

00:24:45   actually host your podcast files which I [TS]

00:24:48   don't know how they can afford to do [TS]

00:24:49   that but somehow they can which is [TS]

00:24:51   awesome okay so I like Squarespace a lot [TS]

00:24:54   of the theme that we picked for our site [TS]

00:24:56   is just one of the built-in themes i [TS]

00:24:58   even hacked it to i had with javascript [TS]

00:25:00   to show the download links and the and [TS]

00:25:04   the the duration of each mp3 file and [TS]

00:25:07   you can you can just you know type in [TS]

00:25:08   random javascript to inject into your [TS]

00:25:10   page and it will do it and i also tweak [TS]

00:25:12   the CSS a little bit just because this [TS]

00:25:15   tweet couple of things I didn't care for [TS]

00:25:16   about the theme but you don't even have [TS]

00:25:18   like so you can do that you can tweak if [TS]

00:25:20   you want to if you don't want to get you [TS]

00:25:22   don't have to it's really great so [TS]

00:25:24   anyway it's Squarespace go to [TS]

00:25:27   squarespace.com it's a eight bucks a [TS]

00:25:29   month and you can save some money if you [TS]

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00:25:38   squarespace.com / neutral i believe use [TS]

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00:25:45   you checkout that's neutral to cause [TS]

00:25:47   it's too number number month number 250 [TS]

00:25:50   weary use neutral to coupon code you [TS]

00:25:53   will get a 10-percent discount so thank [TS]

00:25:55   you four square space for supporting [TS]

00:25:57   five-by-five back to work I mean I mean [TS]

00:25:59   neutral [TS]

00:26:01   alright so how is that alright that's [TS]

00:26:05   pretty good accurate [TS]

00:26:06   look at all this at all right haha so so [TS]

00:26:11   you know I was saying you know I so my [TS]

00:26:14   least for the 3-series up in a few [TS]

00:26:16   months I've said before i got to pick [TS]

00:26:18   something else and so my options are i [TS]

00:26:21   mean not technically don't have to be [TS]

00:26:22   something else i could buy the 3-series [TS]

00:26:24   at the end of the lease and the fact [TS]

00:26:27   that was actually a tempting idea [TS]

00:26:29   actually because [TS]

00:26:30   I'm very happy with the car i like it a [TS]

00:26:32   lot 328 is an awesome car and there's a [TS]

00:26:36   few things about that are annoying so [TS]

00:26:38   one the whole reason that my wife has to [TS]

00:26:42   have her own cars because she doesn't [TS]

00:26:43   really drive stick and well that's [TS]

00:26:47   that's the primary means of the reason [TS]

00:26:48   but that's the primary reason and so [TS]

00:26:51   it's annoying like you for taking a long [TS]

00:26:53   car trip with my car and my car use is [TS]

00:26:57   usually the one that we take long trips [TS]

00:26:58   with we're taking a long trip it is [TS]

00:26:59   annoying that she can't really help with [TS]

00:27:02   the driving and at the same time I don't [TS]

00:27:07   want to give up a stick so the car was [TS]

00:27:13   looking at for the most part is the [TS]

00:27:15   5-series and you know syracuse of [TS]

00:27:17   alluded to this earlier the 3-series is [TS]

00:27:20   very very good [TS]

00:27:21   I i would like a little bit more rear [TS]

00:27:24   legroom which helps a lot with car seats [TS]

00:27:26   if you put a car seat especially a [TS]

00:27:28   rear-facing car seat when you have a [TS]

00:27:29   really young kid and we are planning on [TS]

00:27:31   one probably trying to have one more [TS]

00:27:33   kids so and that'll probably happen [TS]

00:27:35   during the next Carly's so so we're [TS]

00:27:39   thinking you know if we're going to car [TS]

00:27:41   seats in the back a little bit more leg [TS]

00:27:43   room in the back would be very helpful [TS]

00:27:44   in the front passenger's don't screw [TS]

00:27:46   their seats all the way up in the car [TS]

00:27:47   seats back there so a little bit more [TS]

00:27:49   rear legroom and more trunk space would [TS]

00:27:52   also be very welcome [TS]

00:27:53   because as everyone knows kids come with [TS]

00:27:55   lots of stuff and even adults come with [TS]

00:27:57   lots of stuff so it would be nice to [TS]

00:27:59   have a little bit more trunk space and [TS]

00:28:03   that said we don't know i don't think we [TS]

00:28:05   need to go to like a van or an SUV [TS]

00:28:06   because 328 has served us very well for [TS]

00:28:10   this time we've had we've had we had our [TS]

00:28:12   first kid and he's now nine months old [TS]

00:28:14   and we've had the 328 this whole time [TS]

00:28:16   and it's been enough oftentimes not with [TS]

00:28:19   the whole lot of room to spare but it [TS]

00:28:21   has been enough so I don't think we need [TS]

00:28:22   to go like to a massively differently [TS]

00:28:24   shaped car or anything [TS]

00:28:26   some people do when they have kids it's [TS]

00:28:28   it doesn't really our last value doesn't [TS]

00:28:30   really need that you know we don't bring [TS]

00:28:32   that much stuff with us and maybe that [TS]

00:28:34   will change in the future who knows but [TS]

00:28:36   for now being nine months into kid one I [TS]

00:28:41   i think we'll be fine with with sedans [TS]

00:28:43   for for the foreseeable future [TS]

00:28:44   for the most part so I'm looking at the [TS]

00:28:48   $YEAR 5 series the five series has an [TS]

00:28:50   annoying limitation though you can't get [TS]

00:28:54   both all-wheel drive and a stick all the [TS]

00:28:58   drives in the 5-series have have [TS]

00:29:01   automatic transmissions only and so I [TS]

00:29:03   was a little bummed about this for a [TS]

00:29:04   while but I drove one and it's actually [TS]

00:29:06   really good it's aight i gotta say you [TS]

00:29:08   know as I had as i talked at length in [TS]

00:29:10   episode 2 about bs manual modes and [TS]

00:29:14   automatics the BMW quote sport automatic [TS]

00:29:17   making air quotes with my fingers the [TS]

00:29:19   sport management mission is actually [TS]

00:29:21   really good it the it's it's fairly [TS]

00:29:23   responsive it is fairly sporty you know [TS]

00:29:27   how you can like set and software to be [TS]

00:29:28   sporty or not and everything it's it's [TS]

00:29:30   pretty good at I could be very happy [TS]

00:29:33   with that student so I could be very [TS]

00:29:37   happy with that but I yeah otherwise you [TS]

00:29:42   know the car the $YEAR 5 series is [TS]

00:29:43   grateful it's a little expensive [TS]

00:29:45   well that's an understatement it's a [TS]

00:29:46   pretty expensive car but otherwise it's [TS]

00:29:49   a fantastic car has lots of good options [TS]

00:29:52   but then I got the rocket the 1m and the [TS]

00:29:58   1m gave me a taste of what M cars are [TS]

00:30:02   like so naturally I thought well I've [TS]

00:30:04   always joked about wanting an m5 let me [TS]

00:30:06   go test drive one just to see you know [TS]

00:30:09   and because i was looking at probably [TS]

00:30:12   the 550 as the as the most likely car [TS]

00:30:16   pics won't let me go to 75 had this this [TS]

00:30:19   was an experience that I just could not [TS]

00:30:22   believe because here here's how this [TS]

00:30:24   goes you now you know I described an [TS]

00:30:27   earlier episode about how I i took the [TS]

00:30:29   the toyota mr2 for a test drive when I [TS]

00:30:31   was like 19 and it was like the thrill [TS]

00:30:34   of my year that year I was always the [TS]

00:30:37   guy who would go into the car dealership [TS]

00:30:38   and go just like just days at the like [TS]

00:30:44   high-end sports car that they had [TS]

00:30:45   sitting in the showroom and you know [TS]

00:30:48   that was like nobody would was allowed [TS]

00:30:50   to really test drive that they would [TS]

00:30:51   never take it out of the showroom I kind [TS]

00:30:53   of felt like self-conscious and like I [TS]

00:30:55   didn't even belong there even just like [TS]

00:30:56   looking at our opening the door [TS]

00:30:58   sitting in it like that would make me [TS]

00:30:59   feel self-conscious have you guys had [TS]

00:31:01   that experience [TS]

00:31:02   yeah definitely i never go into [TS]

00:31:05   expensive car transmission so and even [TS]

00:31:09   just like like a year ago when we were [TS]

00:31:12   worth almost two years ago now when we [TS]

00:31:14   were looking for tips car one of the car [TS]

00:31:16   she was looking at as it was the audi a3 [TS]

00:31:17   and I remember going to a dealership and [TS]

00:31:20   then there's the r8 sitting there just [TS]

00:31:22   like 130 hundred forty thousand dollar [TS]

00:31:24   car something like that really expensive [TS]

00:31:27   high-end audi sports car and I remember [TS]

00:31:30   like I was afraid like they had like a [TS]

00:31:32   little velvet ropes around the ra like [TS]

00:31:34   you couldn't even go near it [TS]

00:31:36   like I was afraid to even get too close [TS]

00:31:38   to it and look in the window and look at [TS]

00:31:40   the controls and the dash and everything [TS]

00:31:42   you know to say that's a really quickly [TS]

00:31:44   interrupt every time i go and look at a [TS]

00:31:46   really nice car which typically is only [TS]

00:31:48   because I happen to be in the dealer for [TS]

00:31:50   some other reason so typically that [TS]

00:31:51   means a BMW i always make a point of if [TS]

00:31:55   I'm wearing a coat grabbing my if it's [TS]

00:31:57   not zipped up hey grab it grab the [TS]

00:31:59   zipper just hold them behind my body i [TS]

00:32:02   did that and or if it's summertime make [TS]

00:32:04   sure if i might sunglasses like dangling [TS]

00:32:06   off my t-shirt or polo shirt or whatever [TS]

00:32:08   grabbing onto them to show dude i'm [TS]

00:32:10   being respectful don't worry I'm not [TS]

00:32:12   gonna screw up your car [TS]

00:32:13   yeah so I I totally hear you like and [TS]

00:32:15   like sometimes like if if they're [TS]

00:32:17   actually accessible to get that close to [TS]

00:32:18   if they don't have velvet ropes like out [TS]

00:32:20   like if I sit in the car I won't put my [TS]

00:32:23   feet and I'll just like put my butt on [TS]

00:32:24   the seat with my feet still out the door [TS]

00:32:26   you know yeah I know what you said but [TS]

00:32:29   it's so anyway so that was that was like [TS]

00:32:32   a year and a half ago that i saw the r8 [TS]

00:32:34   went and you know what kind of afraid to [TS]

00:32:36   go near it [TS]

00:32:36   well I'd expressed interest in the [TS]

00:32:40   intestine having an m5 too much to the [TS]

00:32:43   dealer i go to and I'd already tested in [TS]

00:32:45   the 550 with them so that they knew that [TS]

00:32:47   I was I was serious about it and so my [TS]

00:32:52   guy calls me up a few months ago my guy [TS]

00:32:54   at the dealership and he says hey we [TS]

00:32:55   just got an m5 been so it you know you [TS]

00:32:58   want to come in like today and yeah but [TS]

00:33:01   you know who would say no to that I [TS]

00:33:03   guess I've got a corporate stooge shot [TS]

00:33:06   i mean hell even syracuse would say yes [TS]

00:33:08   to that yeah i think both of us would [TS]

00:33:11   absolutely say yes to that so I thought [TS]

00:33:12   all right let me go test drive this [TS]

00:33:14   thing and a strike is the 550 still [TS]

00:33:16   there because i would like to do is a [TS]

00:33:18   test drive back to back you know just [TS]

00:33:20   because you know that the cars get the [TS]

00:33:22   change in your mind like if you're [TS]

00:33:24   trying to compare two cars he ideal you [TS]

00:33:26   want to get back to back so you can have [TS]

00:33:28   have the other test drive fresh in your [TS]

00:33:30   mind when you do want to do the next one [TS]

00:33:32   so this is perfect perfect so I go down [TS]

00:33:36   there now you know havent having come [TS]

00:33:39   from my my modest background and having [TS]

00:33:43   always admired cars it was amazing that [TS]

00:33:46   i showed up the car dealer and the m5 is [TS]

00:33:50   not is not on a lot [TS]

00:33:52   no it's in the showroom behind on m6r [TS]

00:33:56   know behind a a was a 650 and so I get [TS]

00:34:01   there they open the doors to the [TS]

00:34:04   showroom and they take the 75 that was [TS]

00:34:08   this car that I would be the one you [TS]

00:34:10   know gazing at longing for thinking I [TS]

00:34:12   could never have they drive the EMSA or [TS]

00:34:16   the 650 out and they pull out the m5 out [TS]

00:34:19   of the showroom for me to drive that has [TS]

00:34:22   got to be the most surreal feeling in [TS]

00:34:24   the world and i would also feel like [TS]

00:34:25   such a tool and i don't mean that a [TS]

00:34:27   jerky way I mean I would almost be [TS]

00:34:29   embarrassed to be causing all this [TS]

00:34:31   ruckus even though you had a perfectly [TS]

00:34:33   legitimate reason to do so I want in [TS]

00:34:35   fact you were invited to do that but I [TS]

00:34:37   would be so embarrassed by it i was very [TS]

00:34:40   self-conscious I mean the good thing is [TS]

00:34:41   it was like a weekday afternoon so there [TS]

00:34:43   was nobody else really there if you know [TS]

00:34:45   if if it was like a Saturday ethnic was [TS]

00:34:47   like a show room full of people I would [TS]

00:34:49   have felt like a dick like I would have [TS]

00:34:51   felt really self-conscious about that [TS]

00:34:53   so anyway so they put this ridiculous [TS]

00:34:56   Cocker up for me to test drive even they [TS]

00:34:59   knew that I wasn't planning on buying [TS]

00:35:01   one anytime soon and possibly at all [TS]

00:35:06   fours you know so that all right so I [TS]

00:35:08   did the m5 first and then you're [TS]

00:35:10   starting the m5 and I was going to 550 [TS]

00:35:12   when I got back with it and the m5 just [TS]

00:35:16   a ridiculous car i mean it is [TS]

00:35:18   I previously driven one at that at the [TS]

00:35:21   the race day thing but that was like [TS]

00:35:23   with her racing helmet on on track for [TS]

00:35:25   15 minutes so it wasn't wasn't like a [TS]

00:35:28   whole lot of experience with it was [TS]

00:35:29   nothing like driving on the road so this [TS]

00:35:32   one I actually I didn't really ask until [TS]

00:35:35   we were already in the car and I'll ok [TS]

00:35:37   can we take this on the highway just you [TS]

00:35:38   know a good 15 miles and they don't like [TS]

00:35:42   this was explained to me they don't even [TS]

00:35:44   get to test driving themselves like when [TS]

00:35:47   it was super high-end car comes in like [TS]

00:35:49   that [TS]

00:35:49   generally people who are going to buy an [TS]

00:35:51   m5 don't want a whole lot of miles on it [TS]

00:35:53   from people taking test drives so they [TS]

00:35:55   will only let quote qualified buyers but [TS]

00:35:58   even test drive the car so apparently [TS]

00:36:01   myself going to go as manager and get [TS]

00:36:03   permission for this and what got him [TS]

00:36:06   permission to let me test drive it was [TS]

00:36:07   he told me I had a one end and he's like [TS]

00:36:09   okay well that's it [TS]

00:36:11   if you have one and obviously you're [TS]

00:36:12   you're serious and a pipe that you might [TS]

00:36:14   really be considering an m5 it's just [TS]

00:36:16   all you spend all your money on the one [TS]

00:36:18   that is every penny I have the world so [TS]

00:36:23   anyway that was apparently enough to [TS]

00:36:24   qualify so so yes sir i'm taking it out [TS]

00:36:28   and like the salesman has never even [TS]

00:36:29   been in this car he's never driven it he [TS]

00:36:32   wasn't even allowed to drive on my test [TS]

00:36:33   drive i just really trying to deal with [TS]

00:36:35   them okay you know i was driving for 10 [TS]

00:36:37   minutes of a give you a good price upon [TS]

00:36:39   but so anyway so we take this thing out [TS]

00:36:44   and he is just as amazed as I am during [TS]

00:36:46   the ride because you know it's just as [TS]

00:36:47   new to him and so that felt amazing i [TS]

00:36:51   mean i really felt like I was king of [TS]

00:36:52   the world that day I it was ridiculous [TS]

00:36:54   so I Drive the m5 on the highway and [TS]

00:36:56   back all throughout the local roads and [TS]

00:36:58   everything and it's a fantastic car I [TS]

00:37:00   mean compared to the one and it's [TS]

00:37:01   extraordinarily different i don't know [TS]

00:37:03   how much our listeners actually care [TS]

00:37:04   about the the minutiae of those [TS]

00:37:05   differences but it is it is just as fun [TS]

00:37:09   just as fast if it is a much bigger and [TS]

00:37:11   heavier car of course but it is an [TS]

00:37:13   amazing car and it has way more luxury [TS]

00:37:17   features and that's saying a lot as the [TS]

00:37:18   one and is a pretty luxurious car [TS]

00:37:20   actually it's almost all the features of [TS]

00:37:22   three series so it's a it's a pretty [TS]

00:37:26   it's a pretty great bard to be but the [TS]

00:37:28   m5 no question was a better car for [TS]

00:37:31   foremost [TS]

00:37:32   purposes and so I end and it was also [TS]

00:37:36   way easier to keep traction and you know [TS]

00:37:38   the 1m is a really overpowered car its [TS]

00:37:41   it is very very easy to lose grip on the [TS]

00:37:44   rear tires in the 1m when you don't even [TS]

00:37:46   mean to and with the m5 it just felt way [TS]

00:37:49   more controlled when it did lose grip it [TS]

00:37:51   it uh recovered way faster and you know [TS]

00:37:54   it's it's a much bigger heavier and more [TS]

00:37:56   refined car so okay then i get back and [TS]

00:38:00   I think oh my god this car is ridiculous [TS]

00:38:03   then I take the test drive in the 550 [TS]

00:38:05   where 550 by all means is the more [TS]

00:38:08   sensible car mostly for my purposes [TS]

00:38:11   because it's all-wheel drive and as we [TS]

00:38:13   talked about before I like I'll Drive a [TS]

00:38:15   lot so I Drive the 550 right after [TS]

00:38:18   having the m5 and honestly it wasn't [TS]

00:38:20   that different like that the difference [TS]

00:38:22   between the two was not nearly as big as [TS]

00:38:26   i expected it to be and I remember [TS]

00:38:28   thinking like with a fight like this is [TS]

00:38:30   this is surprisingly close even some of [TS]

00:38:33   the things that people think are really [TS]

00:38:34   big differences like the steering being [TS]

00:38:37   more more communicative you know you [TS]

00:38:39   feel more of the road feel with the [TS]

00:38:41   hydraulic system in the m5 vs the [TS]

00:38:42   electric power system and in the [TS]

00:38:44   5-series all these things that people [TS]

00:38:47   cited as major things they weren't that [TS]

00:38:50   major when i was driving it wasn't that [TS]

00:38:52   big of a difference it was a noticeable [TS]

00:38:53   difference but it wasn't as big as I [TS]

00:38:55   thought even the dct which I love in the [TS]

00:39:00   m5 the automatic and the 550 is pretty [TS]

00:39:04   fast you know it's not a dct and and [TS]

00:39:07   obviously you know you don't you notice [TS]

00:39:08   the difference but it's pretty fast so I [TS]

00:39:12   remember coming out at the end of course [TS]

00:39:14   the dr feels great so I'm were coming [TS]

00:39:15   out of thinking I don't want the m5 [TS]

00:39:18   after all like all this time I've been [TS]

00:39:20   fantasizing about this car and the 550 [TS]

00:39:24   is so good that ok you know I i think i [TS]

00:39:28   can and you know the m5 like the m5 is [TS]

00:39:32   fantastic car the 550 is a really good [TS]

00:39:35   car to like so and so I thought you know [TS]

00:39:37   what is it really worth the loss of [TS]

00:39:40   all-wheel drive to go at the m5 and [TS]

00:39:42   communicate you know pay more to but is [TS]

00:39:43   it really lock worth lots of older [TS]

00:39:45   I've and and that there's like a few [TS]

00:39:47   options that you can't get on the 5ft [TS]

00:39:49   like the the radar cruise control or you [TS]

00:39:51   can get 15 people . the m5 and the black [TS]

00:39:54   ceramic control your school [TS]

00:39:56   syracuse it makes so much fun if you [TS]

00:39:58   knew what all these things cost so so I [TS]

00:40:03   came out of there thinking you know what [TS]

00:40:04   I'd be fine with the 550 and that's true [TS]

00:40:09   but I ordered the m5 anyway and the main [TS]

00:40:14   reason why is because the difference [TS]

00:40:18   that's there even though the 550 is a [TS]

00:40:21   fantastic car the difference to the m5 [TS]

00:40:25   is the m5 makes you feel more it the [TS]

00:40:30   throttle response is very different that [TS]

00:40:32   the feel of what you know that the [TS]

00:40:35   gearing is very different like this one [TS]

00:40:37   thing I really don't like about the new [TS]

00:40:38   eight-speed automatic is that the second [TS]

00:40:42   gear is a really weird ratio and [TS]

00:40:44   coverage range and it doesn't shift the [TS]

00:40:48   way I want to [TS]

00:40:49   between second and third like a train [TS]

00:40:50   that speed range it's weird because they [TS]

00:40:52   insert another gear there but the m5 is [TS]

00:40:58   for my purposes i just loved that car I [TS]

00:41:02   felt something with that car the 550i [TS]

00:41:05   liked it a lot but I didn't like I [TS]

00:41:07   didn't love it [TS]

00:41:08   the m5 makes enough of a different that [TS]

00:41:10   I loved it and the m5 is is so good that [TS]

00:41:16   without question when i get the m5 i [TS]

00:41:20   will be able to sell the 1m and not and [TS]

00:41:23   not regret having sold it [TS]

00:41:25   whereas if i get the 550i would regret [TS]

00:41:28   not having the one and as i discussed [TS]

00:41:31   earlier i really don't like having [TS]

00:41:33   multiple cars like for me like we're [TS]

00:41:35   still going to have a car between me and [TS]

00:41:36   my wife [TS]

00:41:37   we're going to cars in total there [TS]

00:41:39   having two cars fine having three cars I [TS]

00:41:41   really really don't want everyone to [TS]

00:41:42   stop having three cars that because that [TS]

00:41:44   had that ended up being not nearly as [TS]

00:41:45   fun as I thought it would be so my next [TS]

00:41:48   car will be an m5 and i'm going to pick [TS]

00:41:50   it up in Germany with casey on April [TS]

00:41:52   second i am extremely excited to live [TS]

00:41:57   vicariously through you and [TS]

00:41:59   actually so it's funny because Marco had [TS]

00:42:01   said Marko and tiff both had said to [TS]

00:42:03   Aaron and I a long time ago yeah we [TS]

00:42:06   should all whatever whatever we get next [TS]

00:42:08   to european delivery and and we should [TS]

00:42:10   all go and it'll be fun and so Aaron and [TS]

00:42:13   I kind of always thought oh they're [TS]

00:42:14   there they're very nice people they're [TS]

00:42:16   probably just saying that they're not [TS]

00:42:17   they're not gonna want to take us along [TS]

00:42:18   and so then a few months ago Marco start [TS]

00:42:21   stalking me a lot about to get the 550 [TS]

00:42:24   check out the m5 not to say that I [TS]

00:42:25   necessarily influence market all but we [TS]

00:42:28   start talking about it a lot and what [TS]

00:42:29   are the pros and the cons and then he [TS]

00:42:30   said well you know you're here where [TS]

00:42:33   you're going right you're still you and [TS]

00:42:34   your silly right oh yeah sure whatever [TS]

00:42:36   well then you know Marco says something [TS]

00:42:39   to the effect of well I place the order [TS]

00:42:40   so when are you guys available and [TS]

00:42:43   that's when I realized holy God we're [TS]

00:42:44   gonna go live vicariously through [TS]

00:42:45   marketing and i am very very excited for [TS]

00:42:48   it [TS]

00:42:49   so if all things worked out well this [TS]

00:42:51   should be fun and it's funny to me [TS]

00:42:53   because I didn't want to ruin things [TS]

00:42:55   when you were talking about winter tires [TS]

00:42:57   and other countries but we I know [TS]

00:42:59   exactly why you know about winter tires [TS]

00:43:01   and other countries and it's because of [TS]

00:43:04   this very trip yeah and and I should [TS]

00:43:06   point out also this trip is also one of [TS]

00:43:09   the factors that let us consider that [TS]

00:43:11   led me to decide on the m5 because i [TS]

00:43:12   thought you know we're not planning on [TS]

00:43:15   going to Germany every three years for [TS]

00:43:18   pickup for like a week long trip to go [TS]

00:43:19   pick up our new lease like that it's so [TS]

00:43:21   this is this is probably going to be a [TS]

00:43:23   regular occurrence so you know this is [TS]

00:43:25   like we're taking a big trip going to be [TS]

00:43:27   there for like a week and be there with [TS]

00:43:29   you guys are friends and we're gonna be [TS]

00:43:32   driving a brand-new BMW across Europe [TS]

00:43:34   what happened like that that to me is so [TS]

00:43:37   much cooler if it's an m5 and click that [TS]

00:43:40   you can't drive it across the ocean you [TS]

00:43:42   know I don't know what they told you the [TS]

00:43:44   BMW dealership haha [TS]

00:43:45   there's no partnership between the [TS]

00:43:47   University the jet skis don't come out [TS]

00:43:48   the pontoons don't come out the side [TS]

00:43:50   gate will have to stop can you get ski [TS]

00:43:52   tires [TS]

00:43:54   well you could do the the james bond [TS]

00:43:56   thing like the lotus oh yeah a [TS]

00:43:57   little-little dive planes come out the [TS]

00:43:59   side windows roll under it has enough [TS]

00:44:01   horsepower that's true well the [TS]

00:44:04   interesting thing is what what John [TS]

00:44:05   doesn't realize is that marker when I [TS]

00:44:07   have signed him up for all of us to meet [TS]

00:44:11   the m5 [TS]

00:44:12   it arrives in the states in Spartanburg [TS]

00:44:15   or spartansburg always forget there's an [TS]

00:44:16   S they're not at the BMW factoring in [TS]

00:44:19   the in America so the three of us can go [TS]

00:44:21   mooning around on the BMW factory track [TS]

00:44:24   granted you can take the m5 on the [TS]

00:44:26   factory track but we can go visit the [TS]

00:44:27   factory and enact like 12 year olds or [TS]

00:44:29   if I guess sixteen-year-olds and so John [TS]

00:44:32   you you have been volunteered for that [TS]

00:44:33   in the same way that that Aaron and I [TS]

00:44:35   were volunteered to go pick up the car [TS]

00:44:37   wasn't supposed to happen [TS]

00:44:39   I guess two months after i'll be like [TS]

00:44:42   reason [TS]

00:44:43   yeah yeah somebody wanted everything so [TS]

00:44:45   I was about to say when we're all in WWE [TS]

00:44:47   battling loops it but we'll just hold [TS]

00:44:50   the car there indefinitely quick so yeah [TS]

00:44:54   so that's that's what i'm doing and [TS]

00:44:55   that's and the all-wheel-drive decision [TS]

00:44:57   was was the hardest decision if if they [TS]

00:44:59   made an m5 with all-wheel drive it [TS]

00:45:03   wouldn't have even been a consideration [TS]

00:45:04   not together I mean that i would have [TS]

00:45:05   gone for that in a heartbeat but losing [TS]

00:45:09   level drive [TS]

00:45:10   i I really don't like that however I [TS]

00:45:13   feel so good about the rest of the car [TS]

00:45:16   that I'm willing to lose that and and [TS]

00:45:17   one of the things that helps is is that [TS]

00:45:19   my wife's car has all the driver you [TS]

00:45:20   know as we discussed last episode you [TS]

00:45:24   know because we're you know both of us [TS]

00:45:26   don't need to go anywhere everyday we [TS]

00:45:28   usually were traveling together that is [TS]

00:45:30   there's very rare times we're taking [TS]

00:45:31   separate cars somewhere so it will be [TS]

00:45:35   perfectly fine if her car has all-wheel [TS]

00:45:37   drive and good good snow handling and my [TS]

00:45:41   car gets to be parked for the a few days [TS]

00:45:44   a year where even a good pair of winter [TS]

00:45:46   tires wouldn't be a good idea with with [TS]

00:45:48   a rear-wheel-drive car really where you [TS]

00:45:51   know where I live there really aren't [TS]

00:45:53   that many days every year where there's [TS]

00:45:56   there's actively like snow on the roads [TS]

00:45:59   it hasn't all been cleared away by plows [TS]

00:46:00   and salt and so I really think of that [TS]

00:46:03   will all be fine for most the time and [TS]

00:46:04   her car right now her her I at her Lexus [TS]

00:46:07   IS which i would not recommend getting [TS]

00:46:11   pretty sure she wouldn't recommend [TS]

00:46:12   either but her alexis is is not a [TS]

00:46:14   fantastic car but it works for a while [TS]

00:46:16   when the lease for that is up [TS]

00:46:19   we actually saw just just today at BWW [TS]

00:46:21   officially announced the the 3-series GT [TS]

00:46:23   have you seen this [TS]

00:46:25   yeah it's a car without a purpose John [TS]

00:46:27   have you seen that I have not i'm [TS]

00:46:29   googling for it [TS]

00:46:30   I it's I don't understand BMWs GT cars [TS]

00:46:34   and candidly I don't understand the [TS]

00:46:36   whole four-door coupe thing and I can't [TS]

00:46:40   remember what Mercedes did this i want [TS]

00:46:43   to i feel like it was first I'm probably [TS]

00:46:44   wrong don't email me but it's like the [TS]

00:46:47   big shooting brake like swoop be i just [TS]

00:46:50   i don't really care i'm looking at it [TS]

00:46:53   now I don't like it either did not like [TS]

00:46:55   it at all [TS]

00:46:56   I don't think I like the a7 but i do not [TS]

00:46:59   like this thing to the a7 it here i'll [TS]

00:47:01   paste the link this is in case you'd [TS]

00:47:03   because it's different when you have [TS]

00:47:04   full of good pictures on and I I should [TS]

00:47:08   be clear I think the BMW 5 Series GT is [TS]

00:47:12   an abomination [TS]

00:47:13   i I don't know what they were thinking [TS]

00:47:14   with the 5 Series GT you know BMW is not [TS]

00:47:17   perfect date they make a lot of weird [TS]

00:47:19   moves just like everyone else and [TS]

00:47:20   there's a lot of a lot of stuff i don't [TS]

00:47:23   like the 3-series GT is a car that I [TS]

00:47:27   would never choose for myself [TS]

00:47:29   however for the purposes of my wife's [TS]

00:47:32   car [TS]

00:47:33   I think it's actually perfect i mean i [TS]

00:47:35   haven't seen one yet haven't haven't set [TS]

00:47:37   your drivel yet she hasn't driven one [TS]

00:47:38   yet but it was like we were looking at [TS]

00:47:41   this page earlier and saying thats [TS]

00:47:42   that's actually really promising because [TS]

00:47:45   it has a whole lot of cargo space with [TS]

00:47:48   him right [TS]

00:47:49   why am i hearing your skype sounds I [TS]

00:47:54   don't think it's me all right i got [TS]

00:47:55   $MONEY so it is a whole lot of cargo [TS]

00:47:58   space and at the same time it's it's a [TS]

00:48:01   modified 3-series so and and it still [TS]

00:48:05   looks like a sedan right like it's still [TS]

00:48:07   for the most part it's no no no I got [TS]

00:48:10   across towards looks good judges well [TS]

00:48:13   that's what I want to see I want to see [TS]

00:48:14   like you know how like is it is it to [TS]

00:48:16   lifted like it's kind of hard to tell [TS]

00:48:18   like is that it's not good [TS]

00:48:20   so John pasted in the chat a picture a [TS]

00:48:22   profile picture of the hike and we keep [TS]

00:48:24   my crap together a picture of the honda [TS]

00:48:26   crosstour which connects to the three [TS]

00:48:29   people that own them this is one of the [TS]

00:48:31   most hideous cars members [TS]

00:48:32   in my life and it is it is worse than [TS]

00:48:35   the 3-series GT but I don't know to me [TS]

00:48:37   that's reasonably resemblance [TS]

00:48:39   oh yeah there is so there is oh yeah [TS]

00:48:41   i'll give you that it I just I feel like [TS]

00:48:43   you're halfway between a wagon and sedan [TS]

00:48:45   and so your gear compromise you you are [TS]

00:48:48   the microsoft surface of cars right now [TS]

00:48:50   so does well it's actually though it's [TS]

00:48:53   it's bigger than the wagon gets its [TS]

00:48:54   longer than the wagon and has less [TS]

00:48:57   usable cargo space doesn't it I'm not [TS]

00:49:00   only will i have to see it in person did [TS]

00:49:02   according to the official ratings which [TS]

00:49:04   of course you know those are mostly [TS]

00:49:05   worthless the official ratings say it [TS]

00:49:07   has more you so we'll see that because [TS]

00:49:10   the 3 series wagon for HS that it's just [TS]

00:49:14   a 3-series trunk with a higher roof it's [TS]

00:49:16   not it's not really any longer [TS]

00:49:18   I don't be right over there or you know [TS]

00:49:20   it's been a couple inches it doesn't [TS]

00:49:21   matter [TS]

00:49:22   so this is actually a longer card it's [TS]

00:49:24   like it's basically the length of a [TS]

00:49:26   5-series but with a three series with [TS]

00:49:29   and you know and a little bit taller of [TS]

00:49:31   course so I'm curious like if it's too [TS]

00:49:33   tall then you're right look too much [TS]

00:49:35   like a like most crossovers that we see [TS]

00:49:37   that hideous but I I have high hopes for [TS]

00:49:40   this car i think it might be really [TS]

00:49:42   perfect because and and of course it'll [TS]

00:49:44   it'll come out with xDrive this fall so [TS]

00:49:47   right before the winter but that i'll [TS]

00:49:49   have the m5 this up so we'll see i think [TS]

00:49:52   this this car I I have high hopes it [TS]

00:49:55   might end up sucking I hope it doesn't [TS]

00:49:56   end up sucking but I really think this [TS]

00:49:58   could be my wife next car and I would be [TS]

00:50:01   very happy driving it for long trips and [TS]

00:50:03   stuff in the winter [TS]

00:50:04   did you look closely at this page on f30 [TS]

00:50:07   posts that you put the chat at the [TS]

00:50:09   bottom of the description and this is [TS]

00:50:11   almost entirely unrelated doctors are [TS]

00:50:14   active on your spoiler BMWs first car to [TS]

00:50:17   be fitted with an active rear spoiler [TS]

00:50:19   which extends automatically once the car [TS]

00:50:20   reaches 68 miles an hour or hundred and [TS]

00:50:22   ten kilometers an hour to maintain [TS]

00:50:24   stability at higher speeds ok that's [TS]

00:50:26   really kinda douchey stupid using the [TS]

00:50:28   villa and not haven't but what's [TS]

00:50:30   interesting and i really mean seriously [TS]

00:50:31   spoiler reduces lift to on the rear axle [TS]

00:50:33   by more than thirty-five percent that's [TS]

00:50:36   actually pretty cool as douchey as the [TS]

00:50:39   911 knockoff spoiler maybe [TS]

00:50:42   and I feel like you you can only get [TS]

00:50:44   away with active aerodynamics like 911 [TS]

00:50:46   is the is the entry bar like when you [TS]

00:50:50   get away with your dad also 911 up you [TS]

00:50:52   can get away really know they were on [TS]

00:50:53   your on your mclaren p1 yeah are active [TS]

00:50:56   whatever we don't care what you know [TS]

00:50:57   have to have it to be a transformer in [TS]

00:50:59   turning a different shape but I don't [TS]

00:51:01   have it ok fine we'll accept that but [TS]

00:51:03   once you go down below that once you're [TS]

00:51:04   like in your fifty-thousand-dollar car [TS]

00:51:06   and and it's it's having active area [TS]

00:51:09   advocates like no I don't think so I'm [TS]

00:51:12   like so see what i like about this car [TS]

00:51:14   though is that I think it will have [TS]

00:51:17   actually probably more cargo space in [TS]

00:51:19   the a7 because these I saw an e7 a [TS]

00:51:22   dealer and I open the tri 7 is [TS]

00:51:23   attractive though I'm saying it looks [TS]

00:51:26   nice i'm not sure the I'm kind of torn [TS]

00:51:28   on that like I think it's I think it [TS]

00:51:30   looks really weird from the side and [TS]

00:51:32   it's it's very oddly long like it's it's [TS]

00:51:35   kind of a weird proportioned car [TS]

00:51:37   I don't like the a7 that much i think [TS]

00:51:39   it's ok it's also ridiculously expensive [TS]

00:51:41   for what it is [TS]

00:51:43   so the man who just ordered an m5 yes [TS]

00:51:46   area that's a different type of car I [TS]

00:51:48   mean you know this it's truly a seven is [TS]

00:51:50   is is very similar to the a6 with a [TS]

00:51:53   different shape but so I don't know what [TS]

00:51:55   the 3g t is going to cost but it's [TS]

00:51:56   probably gonna be like 20 grand at least [TS]

00:51:58   less than the a7 and it's and it's gonna [TS]

00:52:01   have like it has a little bit more than [TS]

00:52:03   your leg bigger car every day 7 a bigger [TS]

00:52:04   car isn't it [TS]

00:52:06   each reichenberger it is i think i'll [TS]

00:52:09   have to check the dimensions and and [TS]

00:52:10   have everybody email us they made the [TS]

00:52:13   3-series GT a little bit they need like [TS]

00:52:16   eight inches longer it's a pretty it's [TS]

00:52:18   noticeably longer car than the regular [TS]

00:52:19   3-series and a good few inches of that [TS]

00:52:22   goes to backseat room and the rest of it [TS]

00:52:24   goes to the trunk so you actually have [TS]

00:52:26   like a 5-series class backseat I think [TS]

00:52:29   that see this is why I'm i really want [TS]

00:52:31   to see this car i think this might be [TS]

00:52:32   really great for people who aren't us [TS]

00:52:36   I don't know I I it's very it's a [TS]

00:52:40   curiosity [TS]

00:52:41   you know I really want to see in person [TS]

00:52:42   and I'm not understanding why the a7 [TS]

00:52:46   looks so much better than any of these [TS]

00:52:48   other shooting brake whatever they call [TS]

00:52:50   them is because it's not jacked up as [TS]

00:52:51   much that [TS]

00:52:52   like and I think I like I've seen him in [TS]

00:52:53   person on the road and they just seem [TS]

00:52:55   like lower and wider and as compared to [TS]

00:52:57   with the studio looks like it looks like [TS]

00:52:59   you know looks like Ross looks like [TS]

00:53:00   upright and narrower and just not maybe [TS]

00:53:02   it's a styling thing where they're able [TS]

00:53:03   to like emphasize that low wideness like [TS]

00:53:06   billion i was out he has the very thin [TS]

00:53:08   head and tail lights that are all about [TS]

00:53:10   horizontal you know maybe that maybe [TS]

00:53:11   silver you know a fashion trick but it [TS]

00:53:15   works in person night I saw the a7 and [TS]

00:53:17   magazines and I thought wow that's [TS]

00:53:18   really weird looking but now I see them [TS]

00:53:19   on the road like that's pretty actually [TS]

00:53:21   pretty nice [TS]

00:53:22   I don't plus the new grill that out he [TS]

00:53:25   has its for the last year to where it [TS]

00:53:27   goes from the hood line all the way down [TS]

00:53:29   to the bottom of the bumper and I so [TS]

00:53:31   they also lexus me with a bowtie shape [TS]

00:53:34   well I like the lexus more than this [TS]

00:53:36   although I don't totally love the lexus [TS]

00:53:38   either in marco just pasted in the chat [TS]

00:53:40   a picture of the hindquarters the a7 and [TS]

00:53:43   I was going to say the same thing that [TS]

00:53:44   that it's got a badonkadonk [TS]

00:53:46   it looks low and what looks like the [TS]

00:53:48   back of an re ah John usually you and I [TS]

00:53:51   are so much in agreement but I didn't [TS]

00:53:54   get it I was like I didn't I don't think [TS]

00:53:56   it looks like great pictures i agree but [TS]

00:53:57   i think i see them frequently in person [TS]

00:53:59   on the road and every time I see one in [TS]

00:54:01   person I'm struck by how much how much [TS]

00:54:03   nicer look so nice [TS]

00:54:04   I thought it would and that maybe i'll [TS]

00:54:06   have to see one person to that point but [TS]

00:54:07   looking at pictures I don't get it going [TS]

00:54:10   to see a lot of a sevens tooling around [TS]

00:54:11   Virginia know now I see tons of a fours [TS]

00:54:15   and the 3 series especially in the part [TS]

00:54:16   of richmond wearing the 3-series is like [TS]

00:54:19   the Yuppie civic so we see tons of those [TS]

00:54:22   but no not a lot of big Audis and not a [TS]

00:54:26   lot of big BMWs either for that matter [TS]

00:54:28   and we see a ton of it in my area are [TS]

00:54:31   Panamera's even it was buying a car [TS]

00:54:33   every night see people many of them [TS]

00:54:36   around here it's like I don't know what [TS]

00:54:37   happened i don't i didn't think they [TS]

00:54:39   were gonna sell single one of those is [TS]

00:54:40   something i think that that guy and I [TS]

00:54:42   didn't think they were gonna sell any of [TS]

00:54:43   those but I said you see those around [TS]

00:54:45   and then somebody started being replaced [TS]

00:54:46   with Panamera the Panamera again I you [TS]

00:54:48   know it does not look good in pictures [TS]

00:54:50   in person [TS]

00:54:52   it still doesn't look good but it looks [TS]

00:54:53   better than it does in the pictures [TS]

00:54:55   let's say like I think first of all I I [TS]

00:54:57   think anybody's gonna sell a lot of [TS]

00:54:58   these things that these three T's I even [TS]

00:55:00   though like nerds like us want things to [TS]

00:55:03   be you know shorter or smaller sleeker [TS]

00:55:06   the fact is the market especially in the [TS]

00:55:08   u.s. at least in the rest of the world [TS]

00:55:09   everything crazy and and fat but you [TS]

00:55:13   know our market demands vehicles like [TS]

00:55:15   this that have more cargo space bigger [TS]

00:55:17   everything long no longer everything [TS]

00:55:19   bigger everything more you know more [TS]

00:55:21   versatility and the reason why these [TS]

00:55:24   weird crossovers exists is because they [TS]

00:55:27   sell my seat I you know you said you [TS]

00:55:30   only see like manatees hundreds i see [TS]

00:55:31   tons of those honda things I see them [TS]

00:55:33   all the time i see people here have had [TS]

00:55:36   the weird BMW x6 which is there with [TS]

00:55:39   their abbreviations sack the sports [TS]

00:55:41   activity coupe they actually call it [TS]

00:55:43   that I mean it's like and what people [TS]

00:55:45   here by them here but you can always [TS]

00:55:48   take it too far when the cautionary [TS]

00:55:49   tales and remember the Mercedes our [TS]

00:55:51   class [TS]

00:55:52   no yeah I don't know most people don't [TS]

00:55:54   remember the Mercedes our class but like [TS]

00:55:56   you can like oh so people like wagons in [TS]

00:55:59   the Cadillac SUV type things that like [TS]

00:56:01   they want to get there they don't want [TS]

00:56:02   you to not buy their car because you [TS]

00:56:03   don't have room for your stuff like it [TS]

00:56:05   so they're constantly trying to find a [TS]

00:56:06   way to make you know make the B&O you [TS]

00:56:07   still cool but have more room for stuff [TS]

00:56:09   well Mercedes took that to its logical [TS]

00:56:10   conclusion and produce what was [TS]

00:56:12   essentially a minivan [TS]

00:56:14   alright 474 70 grand gotta hang a [TS]

00:56:17   picture i don't think a lot of people [TS]

00:56:19   bought those I see them around what [TS]

00:56:20   you're gonna see them I sent you pay [TS]

00:56:22   seventy thousand dollars for a minivan [TS]

00:56:23   that's what I semi-transparent you think [TS]

00:56:25   it's funny to how like almost all of [TS]

00:56:27   these new car shapes and sizes [TS]

00:56:29   almost all of them are so that Americans [TS]

00:56:32   can get this the benefits of a minivan [TS]

00:56:34   without buying one or at least some of [TS]

00:56:36   the benefits of independent like like [TS]

00:56:38   largely everyone in America like there's [TS]

00:56:41   this cultural bias against minivans [TS]

00:56:45   they're just seen as like these will see [TS]

00:56:46   things that nobody can have any fun and [TS]

00:56:49   it's just like what I mean that it's [TS]

00:56:50   like dry it's like driving advanced like [TS]

00:56:52   driving a bus with your family grow from [TS]

00:56:54   a car to like now being the bus driver [TS]

00:56:56   to a big thing you buy them because [TS]

00:56:58   especially if you have larger children [TS]

00:56:59   like imagine if you had a family with [TS]

00:57:01   four kids and they're all teenagers like [TS]

00:57:02   you can't wedge them and no one was [TS]

00:57:04   right with those people in the [TS]

00:57:05   background you want to have like big [TS]

00:57:07   seating like you're on a big bus and [TS]

00:57:08   then you get to be the driver of the bus [TS]

00:57:10   and it's it's like driving a bus Europe [TS]

00:57:12   I the steering wheel is horizontal you [TS]

00:57:14   know it's bright its and forever the way [TS]

00:57:16   people added more capacity more cargo or [TS]

00:57:19   people or both capacity to their [TS]

00:57:21   vehicles for decades was to either get [TS]

00:57:23   wagons or mini vans or full-size vans [TS]

00:57:25   and and in America now nobody wants vans [TS]

00:57:30   or our wagons but we have all these [TS]

00:57:32   other car types that are similar like [TS]

00:57:36   Suu know that like especially the [TS]

00:57:37   compact SUVs which are whole areas you [TS]

00:57:40   know at most suvs the whole reason they [TS]

00:57:42   came about was that they they pretty [TS]

00:57:43   much replaced minivans in the US and at [TS]

00:57:47   least four in and most of the market I [TS]

00:57:49   think that they replacement advanced as [TS]

00:57:50   what people want to be when I had been [TS]

00:57:52   you get that they get to drive a truck [TS]

00:57:53   like you can do i'm not driving a van [TS]

00:57:56   driving a truck example right it's [TS]

00:57:59   shaped more square little drier trucks [TS]

00:58:02   and I like trucks and drive like vans [TS]

00:58:04   and BMW is doing the opposite [TS]

00:58:07   let's try to keep selling 3 Series will [TS]

00:58:08   make them look like ugly SUVs but have [TS]

00:58:11   them drive like three series but I [TS]

00:58:12   honestly I think this thing's gonna sell [TS]

00:58:14   like crazy because that there are people [TS]

00:58:15   here who want that I mean we want one [TS]

00:58:17   probably like it's crazy and Italy if it [TS]

00:58:21   doesn't look too SUV like we're probably [TS]

00:58:23   going to buy one of these things for [TS]

00:58:24   tiff you know it's weird here we were [TS]

00:58:28   alluding to the differences between [TS]

00:58:29   Americans and and the rest of the world [TS]

00:58:31   and it's it's odd because I feel like [TS]

00:58:33   Americans have a particular bias against [TS]

00:58:37   station wagons or about want to say it's [TS]

00:58:40   a states in British parlance if i'm not [TS]

00:58:42   mistaken then we only know some top gear [TS]

00:58:45   yes and so we have this this real hatred [TS]

00:58:49   for wagons for hatchbacks in for diesels [TS]

00:58:52   and hatchbacks to me or kind of the [TS]

00:58:55   surface and that yeah they have room but [TS]

00:58:58   that I don't know I just feel like it's [TS]

00:58:59   kind of a let's take something tiny and [TS]

00:59:02   give it a monochrome of extra space and [TS]

00:59:05   now suddenly that's supposed to make [TS]

00:59:07   everything better a hatchback contact [TS]

00:59:09   wagon right and I just doesn't make [TS]

00:59:11   sense to me want to get a wagon but [TS]

00:59:13   nobody in America Lex wagons [TS]

00:59:14   well you know like whereas we be burned [TS]

00:59:16   out and wagons you're right you're like [TS]

00:59:18   where you have one food all the time [TS]

00:59:19   eventually like it's backlash like with [TS]

00:59:21   wagon back lash happened sometime we [TS]

00:59:23   when we were growing up everyone so [TS]

00:59:25   that's it no more of this wagon crap mom [TS]

00:59:27   and dads have wagons I'm sick of wagons [TS]

00:59:29   wagons are gone then [TS]

00:59:30   advanced came and we very quickly [TS]

00:59:32   decided that those were not you know [TS]

00:59:35   cool or interesting even forget buying [TS]

00:59:37   for their families right and so it's [TS]

00:59:38   like I was hoping ok now we can go back [TS]

00:59:40   to wagons right guys cuz now like [TS]

00:59:42   minivan so the uncool thing and now [TS]

00:59:43   maybe wet now you realize the driving a [TS]

00:59:45   car that just has like the back pumped [TS]

00:59:47   out at least you're still driving a car [TS]

00:59:49   it's not like a minivan right guys but [TS]

00:59:50   we didn't see your research and wagons [TS]

00:59:52   only people who have researchers and [TS]

00:59:53   wagons with volvo how to research and [TS]

00:59:55   hot wagons my dad had that was the v70 [TS]

00:59:59   or whatever the [TS]

00:59:59   or whatever the [TS]

01:00:00   they're really really fast turbocharged [TS]

01:00:02   five-cylinder volvo wagon wheels only [TS]

01:00:06   had the sedan version of it but they [TS]

01:00:07   made a wagon of that I the cadillac [TS]

01:00:09   cts-v like the the wagon version of that [TS]

01:00:12   and a couple of the high-end things like [TS]

01:00:15   you know BMW Mercedes and how he had two [TS]

01:00:17   wagons the various time but there was no [TS]

01:00:19   mainstream resurgence of wagons it [TS]

01:00:20   wasn't like everybody all of a sudden [TS]

01:00:23   had a wagon addition to the minivan and [TS]

01:00:24   so now like we've run out of shapes and [TS]

01:00:26   I like your wagons are no minivans are [TS]

01:00:28   no how about some mutant hybrid you know [TS]

01:00:30   what SUVs like all those are cool now so [TS]

01:00:32   they keep making SUVs but now they want [TS]

01:00:34   to make something that's not an SUV [TS]

01:00:35   that's not a wagon and there's not a [TS]

01:00:38   minivan and we end up with these [TS]

01:00:39   missions in the shape and freaks that [TS]

01:00:40   are like I just get just give me a wagon [TS]

01:00:43   I'll be perfectly happy with you know a [TS]

01:00:45   decent way because a wagon is a really [TS]

01:00:47   efficient use of length of the car but [TS]

01:00:50   we don't want you know we don't want [TS]

01:00:52   them aesthetically usually like they I [TS]

01:00:54   think they look so much better than one [TS]

01:00:55   of these crossover like what did you [TS]

01:00:57   think would you would you rather have [TS]

01:00:58   this GT thing or a three series wagon i [TS]

01:01:01   have to drive the GT first you know I [TS]

01:01:03   have to see it especially in person to [TS]

01:01:04   see how tall is it you know I'd rather [TS]

01:01:06   have the Wizards i think on paper i [TS]

01:01:08   think it's only like two inches taller [TS]

01:01:09   than the three series and that might be [TS]

01:01:11   a big difference i don't really know [TS]

01:01:12   what you're gonna have to see it and [TS]

01:01:14   have to drive it honestly i think i [TS]

01:01:17   think i might pick the GT if I had to [TS]

01:01:19   say I think I picked the wagon and it's [TS]

01:01:21   it it's funny John that I feel like you [TS]

01:01:24   and I are back in the same corner again [TS]

01:01:25   it's funny you mentioned cts-v wagon [TS]

01:01:27   because there's a part of me and I [TS]

01:01:29   couldn't afford to cts-v wagon even used [TS]

01:01:31   or not the not the fun supercharged ones [TS]

01:01:33   anyway but I really tried to get a cts-v [TS]

01:01:37   sedan only because i really have no need [TS]

01:01:40   for a wagon but before I got 335 and it [TS]

01:01:44   was just an affordable but I there's a [TS]

01:01:46   part of me that will always kind of wish [TS]

01:01:48   that I could have a cts-v wagon and i [TS]

01:01:51   actually was exchanging tweets with [TS]

01:01:53   somebody earlier today and I don't have [TS]

01:01:55   their name in front of me but they had a [TS]

01:01:57   legacy subaru legacy wagon and a part of [TS]

01:01:59   you always wonder man how fun would it [TS]

01:02:01   be to have like a cts-v wagon or legacy [TS]

01:02:04   GT wagons something a wagon that's fast [TS]

01:02:06   you know how fun would it be to smoke [TS]

01:02:09   something [TS]

01:02:10   that you have no business being quicker [TS]

01:02:12   than in a wagon while you're hauling [TS]

01:02:15   crap and they made an m5 wagon in the [TS]

01:02:17   last generation but somebody BMW said [TS]

01:02:20   recently they only sold like a few [TS]

01:02:21   hundred of them totally saying they made [TS]

01:02:24   it for years [TS]

01:02:25   unlike the Mercedes i want to say it's a [TS]

01:02:27   c63 I think that's right you know they [TS]

01:02:29   they sold a few hundred of those in the [TS]

01:02:31   states and actually a friend of mine his [TS]

01:02:34   wife drives one and I've not been ended [TS]

01:02:36   up not seen it but just being in an [TS]

01:02:38   absurdly fast wagon I think that'd be [TS]

01:02:40   fun but to your point John it's like [TS]

01:02:42   we've run out of shapes and we've we've [TS]

01:02:44   we've overdosed on wagons we don't like [TS]

01:02:46   those and i just i don't get it i wish i [TS]

01:02:49   wish it was more socially acceptable if [TS]

01:02:52   it to have a wagon in the same thing [TS]

01:02:55   with diesels you know Americans are [TS]

01:02:56   obsessed with hybrids no hybrid this [TS]

01:02:59   hybrid that starting to fall away now [TS]

01:03:01   but to my mind I'd much rather have a [TS]

01:03:03   diesel and hybrid I don't get the hybrid [TS]

01:03:06   thing at all [TS]

01:03:07   yeah me too actually the hybrids hybrids [TS]

01:03:11   are a good idea for a lot of reasons but [TS]

01:03:14   in practice a lot of times the mileage [TS]

01:03:17   isn't as much as you would think [TS]

01:03:19   Diesel's on the other hand our way [TS]

01:03:22   simpler environmentally their pride I [TS]

01:03:25   don't know offhand you know because [TS]

01:03:27   hybrid of the problem of battery [TS]

01:03:28   creation and battery disposal both of [TS]

01:03:31   which are really inconvenient truths [TS]

01:03:34   that for environmental people look [TS]

01:03:36   they're having disposed of all those [TS]

01:03:39   batteries is really not pretty so if you [TS]

01:03:43   look like total carbon footprint of of [TS]

01:03:46   having a hybrid versus having just a [TS]

01:03:48   really efficient gas or diesel engine [TS]

01:03:50   the hybrid space still come out ahead i [TS]

01:03:52   think because you have to factor in the [TS]

01:03:54   carbon footprint of remaining for them [TS]

01:03:57   to get not mining but drilling for the [TS]

01:03:58   fossil fuels that are going to power [TS]

01:04:00   your I a car but it turns out to be not [TS]

01:04:03   as big of an advantage of people think I [TS]

01:04:04   i think i think the method is the [TS]

01:04:06   outcome anyway please email Casey with [TS]

01:04:08   that information thanks but you know yet [TS]

01:04:12   diesels or even just very efficient gas [TS]

01:04:14   engines i think for if you're trying to [TS]

01:04:17   be really environmentally conscious and [TS]

01:04:19   and especially total carbon footprint [TS]

01:04:21   wise if you have to have a [TS]

01:04:23   are all I mean are diesels much worse [TS]

01:04:28   for emissions or heavy fix all that ever [TS]

01:04:30   historically but there with these [TS]

01:04:33   standards have gone up such that i think [TS]

01:04:35   the emissions her very close i forget [TS]

01:04:38   who's leading on diesel emissions case [TS]

01:04:39   it was it was the Europe that went to [TS]

01:04:40   like the super clean diesels first visit [TS]

01:04:42   America I couldn't us there's no way it [TS]

01:04:44   was awesome yeah I don't think it was [TS]

01:04:45   awesome and didn't didn't like Mercedes [TS]

01:04:48   and and Volkswagen start doing something [TS]

01:04:51   with like he had urea things yeah yeah [TS]

01:04:55   mercedes bluetec think yeah yeah diesel [TS]

01:04:57   is your way i like when we were kids [TS]

01:04:59   diesels were like they smelled look at [TS]

01:05:01   the look and smell like that sounded [TS]

01:05:03   like trucks now today with modern [TS]

01:05:05   diesels you know a regular person can't [TS]

01:05:08   even tell it's these looks up this [TS]

01:05:09   little d somewhere on the patch right [TS]

01:05:11   oh yeah you can't find this gas thing [TS]

01:05:12   doesn't fit yeah that's the only way you [TS]

01:05:14   can tell don't have time to tell my [TS]

01:05:17   tesla model s story [TS]

01:05:19   yeah how god I almost forgot about that [TS]

01:05:21   yes please do speaking speaking of [TS]

01:05:23   hybrids and BMW wagon so I i got a [TS]

01:05:26   chance this week to riding but not [TS]

01:05:29   actually drive a tesla model s because a [TS]

01:05:31   friend of mine was test driving it and [TS]

01:05:33   actually buying one I believe so you [TS]

01:05:37   know we're having not driven it [TS]

01:05:38   certainly not gonna stop me from [TS]

01:05:41   reviewing it certainly was open we have [TS]

01:05:43   a Tesla store in the mall i don't know [TS]

01:05:45   if you guys have these been in our local [TS]

01:05:46   multiple is online you go in there and [TS]

01:05:49   as the store and I've been in the store [TS]

01:05:50   before and seen a little bit assembled [TS]

01:05:51   car and then filled around with a [TS]

01:05:52   regular one that's the only car they had [TS]

01:05:54   in our store they just have to [TS]

01:05:55   disassemble model s and put the other [TS]

01:05:57   model s and then like the one you test [TS]

01:05:59   drive is not you don't drop out of the [TS]

01:06:01   mall they have it out in the parking lot [TS]

01:06:02   or whatever and so this is a pretty [TS]

01:06:07   interesting car we talk about the [TS]

01:06:08   interior last time about the touchscreen [TS]

01:06:11   everything and even though i had seen it [TS]

01:06:12   before I hadn't like you know spent [TS]

01:06:14   serious time with it but now I got a [TS]

01:06:16   test-drive what they do is they take you [TS]

01:06:17   through and like it's like a guided tour [TS]

01:06:19   of the car tell you how everything works [TS]

01:06:21   i need to go you know go through all [TS]

01:06:22   that stuff when you get to drive around [TS]

01:06:23   a little bit [TS]

01:06:24   and it since i couldn't actually drive [TS]

01:06:27   it i was paying most attention to all [TS]

01:06:28   the way all the stuff works and how [TS]

01:06:31   they're trying to justify the price of [TS]

01:06:32   this car think like it goes from like 50 [TS]

01:06:35   grand for the one that only goes like a [TS]

01:06:36   hundred and fifty miles all the way up [TS]

01:06:38   to like 90 grand for the for the Model S [TS]

01:06:41   performance that a has the bigger [TS]

01:06:43   batteries 300-mile range and other stuff [TS]

01:06:45   that's quite a range of cars you're [TS]

01:06:47   spending many thousand dollars for car [TS]

01:06:48   you have certain expectations of about [TS]

01:06:50   like everything about the car that the [TS]

01:06:52   buying experience that the sort of [TS]

01:06:54   dealership experience the way the [TS]

01:06:55   interior looks and feels the amenities [TS]

01:06:57   and stuff like that and I was trying to [TS]

01:06:59   decide like is this a ninety thousand [TS]

01:07:01   dollar car is this a ninety thousand [TS]

01:07:02   dollar car experience and you can see [TS]

01:07:04   Tesla's trying like you know so they [TS]

01:07:06   have the person to give you the test [TS]

01:07:07   drive and it's clear that the person at [TS]

01:07:09   first of all the person had given a test [TS]

01:07:10   drive my impression was that she did not [TS]

01:07:12   live in our state even if she was just [TS]

01:07:15   traveling like with the dealership or [TS]

01:07:17   going around like she's a professional [TS]

01:07:18   Tesla sales sales person test drive you [TS]

01:07:22   know whatever like looking for some [TS]

01:07:23   local person that hired you know it was [TS]

01:07:25   very polished presentation the the [TS]

01:07:28   little thing that used to get into the [TS]

01:07:30   car is shaped like a tiny model s like a [TS]

01:07:33   little Matchbox car with no buttons or [TS]

01:07:36   anything i'm gonna keep smiling yet [TS]

01:07:37   yeah and you press on you press on like [TS]

01:07:39   the front of the card open up the front [TS]

01:07:40   thing the back of the car back in the [TS]

01:07:42   middle like so that's all very you know [TS]

01:07:43   you know high-end car things like do [TS]

01:07:45   weird stuff with their keys this is a [TS]

01:07:46   weird thing to do with this thing is [TS]

01:07:47   shaped like a little car proximity door [TS]

01:07:51   handle things the door handle slide out [TS]

01:07:53   of the car again if you're buying a [TS]

01:07:55   lecture car we talked about this last [TS]

01:07:56   week you want to feel like you're buying [TS]

01:07:57   futuristic car was door and slide out i [TS]

01:07:59   could have seen that in a sci-fi movie [TS]

01:08:01   in the eighties and it's about as good [TS]

01:08:03   idea now as it was then when you open [TS]

01:08:08   the door so you know touch-sensitive [TS]

01:08:09   like that Ferrari has doors like this [TS]

01:08:10   where you don't actually pull handle you [TS]

01:08:12   just touch your hand to it a minute [TS]

01:08:13   it unlocks the door automatically for [TS]

01:08:15   you there's no yanking and yanking is [TS]

01:08:16   unseemly right so all that they're doing [TS]

01:08:20   pretty well it interior of the car the [TS]

01:08:22   Mercedes switchgear supposedly and I [TS]

01:08:25   guess if you're I don't haven't been in [TS]

01:08:27   a Mercedes long time but there they have [TS]

01:08:28   that the two stocks on the left is [TS]

01:08:29   anyone now I don't know what are the [TS]

01:08:32   aristocracy's I think they have this [TS]

01:08:34   they do two stocks and left will get [TS]

01:08:35   email if i'm wrong about this but anyway [TS]

01:08:36   this thing has to start from left [TS]

01:08:38   on the right the generations of it it's [TS]

01:08:40   a column column shift gear shift which I [TS]

01:08:42   hadn't seen in forever you know but of [TS]

01:08:44   course there's no there's no gears to [TS]

01:08:46   speak of is like park you know reverse [TS]

01:08:47   and and drives like isn't like the whole [TS]

01:08:50   airship the whole area where we we [TS]

01:08:52   usually have gear shifts now is not all [TS]

01:08:53   empty in the model s yeah so like you've [TS]

01:08:56   got the big the touchscreen thing the [TS]

01:08:57   big you know it's it's actually bigger [TS]

01:08:59   than I thought it would be the big [TS]

01:09:00   touchscreen thing and the software on [TS]

01:09:02   there is not they have nothing to be [TS]

01:09:04   ashamed of it is not embarrassing it's [TS]

01:09:05   not as responsive as an ipad is not as [TS]

01:09:07   responsive as it should be and as we [TS]

01:09:08   talked about the last show like knobs [TS]

01:09:11   they need mobsters need them but like [TS]

01:09:12   this is their vision statement no knobs [TS]

01:09:14   no buttons and you know they have you [TS]

01:09:16   have controls on the steering wheel to [TS]

01:09:17   do stuff and I'll some controls on [TS]

01:09:19   steering wheel that can also control the [TS]

01:09:21   touchscreen but the bottom line is i [TS]

01:09:22   would rather have knowledge but you know [TS]

01:09:23   this is their vision statement this is [TS]

01:09:24   the big screen you can do a lot of [TS]

01:09:26   things from it you know it's I give them [TS]

01:09:29   a pass on the first generation thing [TS]

01:09:30   your seats and everything and interior I [TS]

01:09:34   think the interior looks like a [TS]

01:09:36   fifty-thousand-dollar card not like a [TS]

01:09:38   ninety thousand dollar car in terms of [TS]

01:09:39   materials not fit and finish because [TS]

01:09:41   it's been finishing fine but in terms of [TS]

01:09:43   materials that didn't look like the [TS]

01:09:45   inside of Marcos and five is gonna like [TS]

01:09:46   this is a comparably priced car right it [TS]

01:09:48   just it just did not it wasn't up to [TS]

01:09:50   that level of like you know tiny jeweled [TS]

01:09:52   chrome things and even though you can [TS]

01:09:54   pick different things you can pick what [TS]

01:09:56   in the interior you can pick piano [TS]

01:09:57   finish you can pick real graphite in all [TS]

01:09:59   sorts of things just didn't look quite [TS]

01:10:02   that fancy and part of it is the fact [TS]

01:10:04   that to your right is just get you goes [TS]

01:10:08   flat to the floor like there's nothing [TS]

01:10:09   better there's no if there's no tunnel [TS]

01:10:11   there's still no gearshift lever this [TS]

01:10:13   like little little ridges so actually I [TS]

01:10:15   think this is people love this in [TS]

01:10:17   practice because that's where you know [TS]

01:10:18   but my wife Drive want to put her purse [TS]

01:10:20   somewhere the person would go perfectly [TS]

01:10:22   that you can put the biggest price you [TS]

01:10:23   could possibly imagine it fit perfectly [TS]

01:10:24   flat on the floor between states but [TS]

01:10:26   there's nothing else there except a [TS]

01:10:27   little plastic ridge thing and you know [TS]

01:10:29   a little leather thing with the armrest [TS]

01:10:31   and and cupholders and stuff but just [TS]

01:10:33   the interior was not quite up to 90,000 [TS]

01:10:36   da levels but again this is a car the [TS]

01:10:38   single-car ranges from about 50 to 90 so [TS]

01:10:40   I guess it's got a [TS]

01:10:41   yeah you know span the range there I [TS]

01:10:44   headroom I couldn't buy one of these [TS]

01:10:46   because it you know my hits the head [TS]

01:10:48   it's that line of cases were probably [TS]

01:10:49   the same problems in the front seat the [TS]

01:10:51   seat all we're going I'm surprised it's [TS]

01:10:53   a pretty roomy car for the most part I'm [TS]

01:10:55   kind of surprised to hear that it's not [TS]

01:10:56   about it's not it's roomy for for short [TS]

01:10:58   people but anybody yet this is a problem [TS]

01:11:00   with a lot of luxury cars and [TS]

01:11:02   helicopters that I but i can't buy them [TS]

01:11:04   with a sunroof because my head will hit [TS]

01:11:05   the headliner not like hit but just [TS]

01:11:06   enough so that your hair is rubbing [TS]

01:11:08   that's super-annoying right yeah I don't [TS]

01:11:10   want have no idea what that's like [TS]

01:11:11   getting yes haha it on many fronts and [TS]

01:11:14   and so that it's it's a little bit tight [TS]

01:11:17   you can get it with him without the [TS]

01:11:18   sunroof and look at both of them that I [TS]

01:11:19   couldn't tell because i was in the front [TS]

01:11:21   seat of the one without but the backseat [TS]

01:11:23   for sure on the one without the sunroof [TS]

01:11:25   is worse because of the backseat the one [TS]

01:11:27   with the sunroof they have a little [TS]

01:11:28   scoop out area where this glass of [TS]

01:11:30   whatever the backseat for looks [TS]

01:11:32   basically and for according to my friend [TS]

01:11:34   drag coefficient but I know if I could [TS]

01:11:36   only buy that because I feel like give [TS]

01:11:37   me an extra 2 inches of headroom and [TS]

01:11:38   then you drag coefficient go down too [TS]

01:11:40   much [TS]

01:11:42   it's really tight in the back because it [TS]

01:11:45   you know it looks really nice on the [TS]

01:11:46   outside and the sacrifice that [TS]

01:11:47   nice-looking this is in the back you [TS]

01:11:49   really don't want adults 6 foot or [TS]

01:11:51   taller adults sitting in the back seat [TS]

01:11:53   like that leg room also was not as roomy [TS]

01:11:55   as you would you would think they're so [TS]

01:11:58   passenger in the car it was a pretty [TS]

01:12:03   long test drive and we got to try out [TS]

01:12:04   you know everything about your respects [TS]

01:12:05   trout highways exit ramps entrance ramps [TS]

01:12:08   you know stop-and-go traffic all that [TS]

01:12:10   stuff the performance of his car is it's [TS]

01:12:14   it's quite an anomaly because the Tesla [TS]

01:12:18   Model S performance 0-16 4.4 seconds [TS]

01:12:20   which is a respectable number for our 90 [TS]

01:12:23   thousand dollar car like it's not it's [TS]

01:12:24   not a supercar but it's pretty darn good [TS]

01:12:26   you know right i mean what marcos m3 is [TS]

01:12:28   like 36 or something like that are and [TS]

01:12:30   five rather 36 or not they're actually I [TS]

01:12:32   believes that they made a bunch of waves [TS]

01:12:34   and in the YouTube seen a few months ago [TS]

01:12:36   I believe that the tesla model s beats [TS]

01:12:39   the m5 a drag race the m5 will only be [TS]

01:12:42   that if you have to turn now this about [TS]

01:12:45   maybe once it goes over 60 things are [TS]

01:12:46   happening but the thing is that the 0-60 [TS]

01:12:48   time is time is really good but the top [TS]

01:12:50   speed is a hundred thirty now if you [TS]

01:12:52   guys hear about how you [TS]

01:12:53   ever remember a car that went 0-16 4.4 [TS]

01:12:56   seconds but had 230 miles an hour tops [TS]

01:12:58   that those respects from two different [TS]

01:12:59   errors because back when Cartman had [TS]

01:13:01   topped out at 230 they took seconds to [TS]

01:13:04   60 right that like in any color any [TS]

01:13:06   modern car that goes to 60 in less than [TS]

01:13:09   five seconds does not top out at [TS]

01:13:10   one-thirty so i'm i'm curious as to why [TS]

01:13:12   they top out but I don't think it's the [TS]

01:13:14   tires i think maybe there's like since [TS]

01:13:16   there is no gearing maybe that's how [TS]

01:13:18   fast you know it's an RPM limit on the [TS]

01:13:20   electric motors me completely it's like [TS]

01:13:21   a heat issue if you go mommy like [TS]

01:13:24   sustain a speed much faster than that [TS]

01:13:25   for very long [TS]

01:13:26   yeah i'm not sure what it is but but [TS]

01:13:28   anyway so we we got to you know do some [TS]

01:13:30   performance run to end it is it's weird [TS]

01:13:33   because during of performing our and [TS]

01:13:36   acceleration run like that my brain was [TS]

01:13:39   inserting the downshift noises or the [TS]

01:13:41   upshift noises rather like Werner and [TS]

01:13:44   there were no such noises because there [TS]

01:13:45   is no gear changing like it's not [TS]

01:13:47   happening but and and you know you feel [TS]

01:13:49   the surge of acceleration there's no [TS]

01:13:51   pauses and there's no hitches and that's [TS]

01:13:52   why would there be it's just a motor [TS]

01:13:54   connected to a wheel and you just make [TS]

01:13:55   it go fast [TS]

01:13:56   I they had the test car governed at 85 [TS]

01:14:00   miles an hour which we immediately found [TS]

01:14:02   out and he said it's because people were [TS]

01:14:03   going a little bit too fast and 85 miles [TS]

01:14:06   an hour [TS]

01:14:06   rivers really quickly especially when [TS]

01:14:08   there's no noise and no like you know [TS]

01:14:11   herky-jerky just press the bell and you [TS]

01:14:13   like up but 85 they're just stop you [TS]

01:14:15   know very strange experience stranger i [TS]

01:14:19   think then the experience of like enough [TS]

01:14:21   if anyone's ever been and hybrids like [TS]

01:14:23   there's no noise you know you're just [TS]

01:14:25   like you just roll out of your parking [TS]

01:14:26   spot [TS]

01:14:26   this is no power and ivory yeah well no [TS]

01:14:29   but there's nothing there's nothing [TS]

01:14:30   there's no engine noise that you can [TS]

01:14:31   hear your public yet your tires just [TS]

01:14:33   rolling over the pebbles that's what [TS]

01:14:35   it's like you're you know the car is [TS]

01:14:36   free falling right but yeah very strange [TS]

01:14:38   experience and the other strange that i [TS]

01:14:39   read about it and many reviews and [TS]

01:14:41   experiencing it was definitely odd was [TS]

01:14:43   it this car corners and breaks like like [TS]

01:14:47   it's an Enzo like the body there is no [TS]

01:14:50   squat during heavy braking going around [TS]

01:14:52   the entrance ramp the car does not tilt [TS]

01:14:53   to the side like it's just dead flat [TS]

01:14:55   unbelievably flat because it's got a [TS]

01:14:57   human-like the batter if you seen in the [TS]

01:14:59   store the batteries is the entire like [TS]

01:15:00   floor plan a fourth floor pan of the car [TS]

01:15:03   so huge amount of weight is very low in [TS]

01:15:07   the sky [TS]

01:15:07   r it does not like about ordering from [TS]

01:15:10   side-to-side yes it's it is is a boxer [TS]

01:15:13   engine x 28 but I incredibly flat [TS]

01:15:16   through fruit everyone over this thing [TS]

01:15:18   was actually wearing pirelli snow tire [TS]

01:15:20   so is not we did not reach the [TS]

01:15:22   performance limits of this car going an [TS]

01:15:24   entrance and exit ramps and those kinds [TS]

01:15:26   of tires [TS]

01:15:27   ah but very very flat and that was it [TS]

01:15:31   made it made it feel like you were [TS]

01:15:32   riding like one of those haha monorail [TS]

01:15:35   to disneyland likely the acceleration [TS]

01:15:37   and deceleration and the fact that did [TS]

01:15:39   not tilt it was fascinating and i have [TS]

01:15:42   to say the like the dashboard like the [TS]

01:15:45   gauge cluster when you look at the you [TS]

01:15:47   know they have to have the LCD screen [TS]

01:15:48   the big one in the center console but [TS]

01:15:50   then the gauge cluster is also a screen [TS]

01:15:52   and I think they pull it off pretty well [TS]

01:15:54   that screen quality could be a little [TS]

01:15:56   bit better [TS]

01:15:57   like I think like a redhead macbook pro [TS]

01:15:59   screen is better than the screen is this [TS]

01:16:01   thing but you know what can you do but [TS]

01:16:02   like when you if you type in her speak [TS]

01:16:05   your destination [TS]

01:16:06   it does a google map search on the big [TS]

01:16:07   screen and then once you've found your [TS]

01:16:09   destination it switches over that map [TS]

01:16:11   appears to the left of your like tax [TS]

01:16:13   pedo thing and that's actually garments [TS]

01:16:16   off over there it's weird that they have [TS]

01:16:17   two different lenders for but you said [TS]

01:16:18   you see the little garmin like 3d you're [TS]

01:16:20   going down the road and navigating type [TS]

01:16:21   of thing to the left of your attack [TS]

01:16:23   instead of having to glance over to the [TS]

01:16:25   center console to say it but it's if [TS]

01:16:28   they do a pretty good job with the [TS]

01:16:29   software integration and it's [TS]

01:16:31   fascinating talking to the person about [TS]

01:16:32   all the software tweaks that they've [TS]

01:16:34   been doing like the government that you [TS]

01:16:35   know the speed governor is one thing but [TS]

01:16:37   they are constantly sending software [TS]

01:16:38   updates to tweak out the car works the [TS]

01:16:41   other strange thing about electric cars [TS]

01:16:42   total electric cars is like you don't [TS]

01:16:44   have to break almost at all if you drive [TS]

01:16:47   the thing the correct way because when [TS]

01:16:49   you take off the gas pedal it's like [TS]

01:16:50   you're applying the brakes on a regular [TS]

01:16:52   car because the regenerative braking you [TS]

01:16:53   can basically just drive with the gas [TS]

01:16:55   pedal press down to go pick up slightly [TS]

01:16:56   to slow down you know which is really [TS]

01:16:59   weird like you you know we thought the [TS]

01:17:01   driver of the car was breaking but he [TS]

01:17:03   was not breaking he was really lifting [TS]

01:17:05   up on the gas and that's what you know [TS]

01:17:06   the regenerative braking slow the car [TS]

01:17:08   now and that's the type of thing they [TS]

01:17:09   can totally tweak with software how much [TS]

01:17:11   you want to do that you want [TS]

01:17:12   regenerative braking on heavy light [TS]

01:17:13   non-existent all these different things [TS]

01:17:16   you can do with software too [TS]

01:17:18   to make the car behave entirely [TS]

01:17:20   differently because so much of it is [TS]

01:17:21   electronically controlled and and this [TS]

01:17:24   is a united breaks are not like a Wimpy [TS]

01:17:27   breaks you the gigantic disc brakes and [TS]

01:17:30   i'm assuming the j and disc brakes [TS]

01:17:31   because the car weighs 400 pounds and [TS]

01:17:33   you know regenerative braking can only [TS]

01:17:35   do so much but in practice you can [TS]

01:17:37   actually just drive this car with gas [TS]

01:17:39   pedal which is like you know forget [TS]

01:17:40   about losing your clutch pedal you know [TS]

01:17:41   you're practically losing the brake [TS]

01:17:42   pedal now it's like a one-button [TS]

01:17:43   push-button appliance type car so I [TS]

01:17:48   overall i was very impressed with his [TS]

01:17:49   car if you told me his car costs $15,000 [TS]

01:17:51   that this is amazing this is a [TS]

01:17:52   fifty-thousand-dollar car that anybody [TS]

01:17:54   who does not need to travel more than [TS]

01:17:56   250 miles should it should look at at [TS]

01:17:59   90,000 i have to say that I this would [TS]

01:18:03   not be my choice even though it's a very [TS]

01:18:05   interesting experience very very very [TS]

01:18:07   smooth ride reasonably quiet in terms of [TS]

01:18:10   you know noise isolation and everything [TS]

01:18:11   like that but you know holding up [TS]

01:18:14   against marcos and five outside it it [TS]

01:18:17   doesn't compete at that level but it has [TS]

01:18:19   many characteristics that you know the [TS]

01:18:21   m5 can't can't touch in terms of just [TS]

01:18:23   plain weirdness and futuristic miss of [TS]

01:18:25   driving around this thing when it [TS]

01:18:27   doesn't the reason have to compete at [TS]

01:18:29   that level like you know liquid the pre [TS]

01:18:30   I don't know what previous pricing is [TS]

01:18:31   now in the previous first came out it [TS]

01:18:33   was way more expensive then then its [TS]

01:18:37   segment of you know interior quality and [TS]

01:18:39   stuff like that but it didn't matter [TS]

01:18:41   people bought it anyway because they [TS]

01:18:42   wanted they wanted that hyper they [TS]

01:18:44   wanted those features same thing with [TS]

01:18:45   this like people are going to pay a [TS]

01:18:47   premium for this they're going to be [TS]

01:18:48   willing to pay 90 grand 48 48 50 grand [TS]

01:18:52   interior because it's such a cool [TS]

01:18:55   different futuristic are ya and it does [TS]

01:18:58   like the feelings that you get it [TS]

01:19:00   doesn't feel like driving a regular car [TS]

01:19:01   with it you know whether you like it or [TS]

01:19:02   not it feels it feels different because [TS]

01:19:04   of the weird electric motor acceleration [TS]

01:19:06   and you know that the priests had that [TS]

01:19:08   too but like the priest had no [TS]

01:19:09   acceleration to speak of this is [TS]

01:19:11   actually a very quick powerful car but [TS]

01:19:14   you know in a very strange way I was [TS]

01:19:16   also we're looking at the exterior of [TS]

01:19:17   the car in it that the whole thing like [TS]

01:19:20   you know you've got the the trunk of the [TS]

01:19:23   backward just huge it's gigantic like it [TS]

01:19:25   so you should see what how many cubic [TS]

01:19:26   feet are in this this GT truck i think [TS]

01:19:28   this thing is bigger with this kind of [TS]

01:19:29   like a pseudo hatchback [TS]

01:19:30   type thing it's a very high and drunk [TS]

01:19:32   very drunk and then in the front another [TS]

01:19:35   truck because my here because why not [TS]

01:19:37   like it's not it's not like all the the [TS]

01:19:39   engine of his cars you know this dude is [TS]

01:19:40   two trunks and the trunk in the front is [TS]

01:19:42   reasonably sized as well I and you look [TS]

01:19:45   at the car and it's almost like a fake [TS]

01:19:47   car because I like where is the where's [TS]

01:19:50   the stuff like if you open it looks like [TS]

01:19:52   an apple carpet when you open up the [TS]

01:19:53   hood of it [TS]

01:19:54   discipline is the trunk and there's one [TS]

01:19:57   blue little place where you put the [TS]

01:19:59   wiper fluid like that's like that's like [TS]

01:20:01   the only thing and you know it's just [TS]

01:20:03   plastic everywhere else and it's like [TS]

01:20:05   it's like it's like a fake model cycle [TS]

01:20:07   here is not only with the engine be we [TS]

01:20:08   just covered it with plastic and like [TS]

01:20:10   that's it that's all there is in this [TS]

01:20:11   too little rubber nubbins for the thing [TS]

01:20:13   to you know for the hood to rest down on [TS]

01:20:15   it you get confused about where the car [TS]

01:20:18   is in this car because it's not on the [TS]

01:20:19   inside look inside there's nothing in [TS]

01:20:21   there there's no tunnel is whatever [TS]

01:20:22   you're looking truck nothing in there [TS]

01:20:23   you look at the front of the card is [TS]

01:20:24   nothing in there it shows the be amazing [TS]

01:20:27   packaging flexibility you have one like [TS]

01:20:29   the car is not there is no car to speak [TS]

01:20:31   of except for it's like it's like it's a [TS]

01:20:34   bunch of suspension tires brakes shocks [TS]

01:20:36   and steering mechanism as the whole car [TS]

01:20:38   the one odd thing that I found and I [TS]

01:20:40   have to you know find something to [TS]

01:20:42   complain about all things wherever right [TS]

01:20:43   before we left I was looking at and I [TS]

01:20:45   was like you know how do you lift the [TS]

01:20:48   windshield wipers up you know whenever [TS]

01:20:49   you come away from the car so i could [TS]

01:20:50   scrape is often whatever you pick the [TS]

01:20:52   windshield wipers up these ones can't do [TS]

01:20:55   that because they have hinges they're [TS]

01:20:57   like it's clear that they could do that [TS]

01:20:58   but the hood of the car blocks them and [TS]

01:21:01   we ask the people that were there like [TS]

01:21:02   maybe maybe happens when the hood up [TS]

01:21:03   with the hood up you still can't get up [TS]

01:21:05   well maybe you can stop the wipers and I [TS]

01:21:06   when they're vertical and then they can [TS]

01:21:08   fold down nope can't stop them on their [TS]

01:21:09   vertical seems like they'll have to [TS]

01:21:11   provide some sort of software mode or [TS]

01:21:13   some sort of maintenance thing where [TS]

01:21:14   it's like I need to change my wiper [TS]

01:21:15   blades now quite a lot of one reason [TS]

01:21:17   please put the wiper in the upright [TS]

01:21:19   position and stop them so i don't know [TS]

01:21:22   if that's like a first-generation bug or [TS]

01:21:23   maybe the person to deal should just did [TS]

01:21:25   not know how to stop them in that [TS]

01:21:26   position but these are obviously all [TS]

01:21:27   just being sold in California you know [TS]

01:21:30   you can have to change the wiper blades [TS]

01:21:31   eventually you know so now you're [TS]

01:21:35   already at the next electric car it had [TS]

01:21:37   fewer like gin 1 i'm looking at this [TS]

01:21:40   like you look like a new macbook pro it [TS]

01:21:41   had fewer genuine [TS]

01:21:43   bugs than I thought it would but it's [TS]

01:21:45   still kind of curly gentlemen car but I [TS]

01:21:47   can understand why someone who's into [TS]

01:21:49   who wants to try something new once have [TS]

01:21:51   something cool futuristic you would not [TS]

01:21:53   be sacrificing anything to get this car [TS]

01:21:56   except for you know except a range if [TS]

01:21:57   you want to do a 600-mile trip and you [TS]

01:21:59   have to like strategically plan to go [TS]

01:22:00   through these you know places [TS]

01:22:02   superchargers but you would not be [TS]

01:22:03   sacrificing anything or if you use this [TS]

01:22:05   as your daily car it's you know it's [TS]

01:22:07   nice enough its luxurious enough it's [TS]

01:22:10   roomy enough and it's interesting enough [TS]

01:22:12   to make up for all the places where it's [TS]

01:22:13   not as good as an audi or BMW Mercedes [TS]

01:22:15   for a similar amount of money so i can [TS]

01:22:18   wait more impressed after driving it [TS]

01:22:20   than just looking at in the mall but [TS]

01:22:22   still would not buy one [TS]

01:22:23   what's interesting is I'm looking at the [TS]

01:22:25   Tesla website and one of the things they [TS]

01:22:28   mention is a battery replacement option [TS]

01:22:31   will be available for purchase soon the [TS]

01:22:33   option allows you to pre-purchase a new [TS]

01:22:35   battery to be installed after eight [TS]

01:22:36   years for fixed price eight thousand [TS]

01:22:38   dollars for 40 kilowatt-hour batteries [TS]

01:22:40   $10,000 460 kilowatt-hour batteries and [TS]

01:22:43   twelve thousand dollars 485 [TS]

01:22:45   kilowatt-hour batteries [TS]

01:22:46   that's insane right now you're talking [TS]

01:22:49   about I didn't say no because it's [TS]

01:22:50   actually fairly like for what they're [TS]

01:22:53   doing [TS]

01:22:54   that's actually not a terrible price [TS]

01:22:56   like they're I don't think they're [TS]

01:22:57   gathering people with that price knowing [TS]

01:22:59   the reason I think this is reasonable as [TS]

01:23:00   the reason I don't like hybrids is [TS]

01:23:02   because I know like you we all know from [TS]

01:23:04   using laptops and stuff like those [TS]

01:23:05   batteries are gonna go bad and then p.m. [TS]

01:23:07   every bit as a visceral level like [TS]

01:23:09   they're just they're just going to go [TS]

01:23:10   and you like always never worth it [TS]

01:23:12   you're busted but in this car the rest [TS]

01:23:14   of the car is a reasonably good [TS]

01:23:17   high-quality I mean what else is there [TS]

01:23:20   to the car besides that like that the [TS]

01:23:22   electric motors I think they're gonna be [TS]

01:23:24   fine after eight years right because you [TS]

01:23:25   know we're going to make industrial [TS]

01:23:26   electric motors they should be fine [TS]

01:23:28   it's the suspension components all look [TS]

01:23:30   good the shock absorbers the steering [TS]

01:23:32   linkage there's not much else in it is [TS]

01:23:34   like a compressor for the air [TS]

01:23:35   conditioner like a pump for the [TS]

01:23:37   hydraulics for the brakes so i'm saying [TS]

01:23:39   what i'm saying is in eight years [TS]

01:23:41   it's not you need to throw this car away [TS]

01:23:42   in eight years putting another 12 grand [TS]

01:23:44   into into a car that you really love [TS]

01:23:46   that gets you a brand like basically a [TS]

01:23:47   brand-new car again I mean you think you [TS]

01:23:49   know there's no other parts that were [TS]

01:23:51   actually but you know the brake pads [TS]

01:23:53   probably gonna last forever because the [TS]

01:23:54   region and breaking that you barely need [TS]

01:23:56   years yeah you gotta get new tires [TS]

01:23:57   because the treadwear but if you really [TS]

01:23:59   love your Tesla Model S and i can [TS]

01:24:01   imagine someone really loving and [TS]

01:24:02   trusting little less after eight years [TS]

01:24:04   you don't want to throw it away you're [TS]

01:24:05   like I find is about 12 grand i bought [TS]

01:24:07   90,000 dolla dolla car has another 12 [TS]

01:24:08   grand [TS]

01:24:09   give me my Tesla Model S that I love [TS]

01:24:11   back again and and having that option [TS]

01:24:12   also makes the used market a lot more [TS]

01:24:14   viable because like it's pretty unwise [TS]

01:24:18   to buy an old hybrid most of the time [TS]

01:24:20   because the batteries have you know they [TS]

01:24:21   don't last forever and they don't even [TS]

01:24:22   last that long felt like you know most [TS]

01:24:25   you know the toyota prius was basically [TS]

01:24:27   a toyota echo with hybrid stuff added to [TS]

01:24:30   it a toyota echo with last way longer [TS]

01:24:33   than a Prius and in most most usage [TS]

01:24:35   because the code doesn't have batteries [TS]

01:24:37   to wear out you know the Tesla you know [TS]

01:24:40   generally speaking I if I were buying a [TS]

01:24:42   hybrid i would not buy one that was more [TS]

01:24:44   than five years old because of that [TS]

01:24:46   because of that battery issue but this [TS]

01:24:48   if if I knew this was an option it's a [TS]

01:24:50   pretty expensive option but it's also a [TS]

01:24:52   pretty expensive car [TS]

01:24:53   I mean you know if I was gonna buy one [TS]

01:24:55   of these use in a couple years get like [TS]

01:24:57   a three-year-old model for like 40 grand [TS]

01:25:00   that's not you know like one of the [TS]

01:25:03   90,000 zinc get like a three-year-old [TS]

01:25:05   daughter like 40 grand it's actually not [TS]

01:25:06   that scary of a concept anymore knowing [TS]

01:25:09   that those things are replaceable and to [TS]

01:25:12   argue with myself for a minute i [TS]

01:25:14   remember vividly seeing the the cost of [TS]

01:25:17   an e39 m5 which by the way was probably [TS]

01:25:20   my favorite BMW ever just seeing the [TS]

01:25:23   cost of an e39 m5 motor in it was absurd [TS]

01:25:26   it was like fifteen or twenty thousand [TS]

01:25:28   dollars and so 2 to both of your points [TS]

01:25:30   thinking about it a little more and [TS]

01:25:32   argue with myself is 12 grand really [TS]

01:25:34   that bad for what is effectively [TS]

01:25:36   amounted to a brand-new motor yes i know [TS]

01:25:38   it's not literally the motor but this is [TS]

01:25:40   the the part is the only is the part [TS]

01:25:41   that you expect to wear right you're [TS]

01:25:43   right so review other parts like aside [TS]

01:25:45   from just tires i think like I think you [TS]

01:25:47   go 80,000 miles on one set of brake pads [TS]

01:25:49   and my sister when 70,000 miles on her [TS]

01:25:51   integra once that first set of integra [TS]

01:25:52   brake pads and that car does not have [TS]

01:25:54   regenerative braking and also I you know [TS]

01:25:56   this i think these will have because [TS]

01:25:58   there's so few things it's kind of like [TS]

01:26:00   the the apple design of like you know [TS]

01:26:03   just remove everything get rid of [TS]

01:26:04   everything why do you need any of this [TS]

01:26:05   the end is nothing there's nothing left [TS]

01:26:07   except for [TS]

01:26:08   and hopefully they make the stuff that [TS]

01:26:09   is they're good they may hopefully they [TS]

01:26:10   do the door seals well and and the you [TS]

01:26:13   know the motors for the windows and [TS]

01:26:15   stuff [TS]

01:26:15   one funny thing on the the central [TS]

01:26:17   display is like at the top of its got [TS]

01:26:19   like a status bar I think it's got the [TS]

01:26:20   time or something on there and has the [TS]

01:26:21   little horizontal you know don't double [TS]

01:26:24   a battery symbol with like a bar chart [TS]

01:26:28   in the middle of it like a green little [TS]

01:26:29   line filling up right just like you [TS]

01:26:30   would see on the top of an ipad on your [TS]

01:26:32   maternity back in your ipad but it's not [TS]

01:26:34   the battery meter for the for the like [TS]

01:26:38   that little iPad in your dashboard is [TS]

01:26:39   the battery meter for the car but it's [TS]

01:26:41   the same size is this the battery hurt [TS]

01:26:43   for you know for your ipad and i was [TS]

01:26:45   looking like let's look at this that [TS]

01:26:47   this test the battery you know another [TS]

01:26:50   friend who i was with said what if you [TS]

01:26:51   just park the car and just use the [TS]

01:26:53   little tablet interface how long would [TS]

01:26:54   it last night her head off with the [TS]

01:26:56   battery that's not what i did some math [TS]

01:26:57   before the show it would power so the [TS]

01:27:00   ipad of the 25 watt hour battery that [TS]

01:27:03   lasts about 10 hours so if you just ran [TS]

01:27:05   an ipad off of the Tesla battery that [TS]

01:27:08   you're sitting on top of a stationary [TS]

01:27:09   car would last for thirty-four thousand [TS]

01:27:11   hours or about 3.9 years [TS]

01:27:13   well that's convenient means either you [TS]

01:27:15   know this self-discharge faster than [TS]

01:27:17   they do have two charging USB sockets [TS]

01:27:20   and plus a 12 volt socket there so if [TS]

01:27:22   you need to recharge your ipad look for [TS]

01:27:23   something with the test because they've [TS]

01:27:24   got all the juice you need guys like I'd [TS]

01:27:26   be worried if I didn't know about how [TS]

01:27:27   different that side would i be worried [TS]

01:27:29   about like um I draining the car's [TS]

01:27:31   battery too much and i plug in my iphone [TS]

01:27:33   four years you will have granted yes [TS]

01:27:35   right but wow i do want to mention i [TS]

01:27:38   know we're running along but who cares i [TS]

01:27:40   do want to mention this article I found [TS]

01:27:43   in Autoweek last month i placed going up [TS]

01:27:46   in the show notes if we have show notes [TS]

01:27:48   and it's about haha there there's [TS]

01:27:53   apparently this this proposal by the [TS]

01:27:55   National you know that it should [TS]

01:27:58   nationally the graduation it's a [TS]

01:28:01   something like that and I don't get as [TS]

01:28:03   much society who knows and said [TS]

01:28:05   automakers would would need to make [TS]

01:28:07   hybrids and electric vehicles emit [TS]

01:28:09   artificial sounds like you're in 5i yes [TS]

01:28:13   that's why under these rules because the [TS]

01:28:16   problem is that electric vehicles are so [TS]

01:28:18   quiet you pretty much only here [TS]

01:28:21   iron toys and that's pretty quiet most [TS]

01:28:23   of the solar electric fields are so [TS]

01:28:24   quiet that they're posing additional [TS]

01:28:26   risks to pedestrians who don't realize a [TS]

01:28:29   car is coming and we asked about that we [TS]

01:28:31   asked the test the person about that in [TS]

01:28:33   the test drive and what she said which [TS]

01:28:35   sounded like a rehearsed answer s all [TS]

01:28:37   for instance rehearse pictures are [TS]

01:28:38   professional was that Tesla ask their [TS]

01:28:41   prospective buyers how they felt about [TS]

01:28:43   this issue and the the prospective [TS]

01:28:46   buyers all were only said that they [TS]

01:28:48   liked the idea of the car being quiet [TS]

01:28:50   and do not want doesn't want to add any [TS]

01:28:52   arbitration always the car obviously [TS]

01:28:54   whoever mandates they're going to but a [TS]

01:28:56   test was trying to satisfy the people [TS]

01:28:58   you know for people who are interested [TS]

01:28:59   in and fifty to ninety thousand dollar [TS]

01:29:01   cars do they do they want us to add some [TS]

01:29:04   sort of sound to it for safety and the [TS]

01:29:06   answer was no and which makes sense when [TS]

01:29:08   I was like yeah it's the these people [TS]

01:29:09   just want to that Medicare pedestrians [TS]

01:29:10   will plow them down they want the car [TS]

01:29:12   right well actually i should point to [TS]

01:29:14   like you know like the m5 articles and [TS]

01:29:16   when I was doing the test drives on the [TS]

01:29:19   engines do sound different between the [TS]

01:29:21   m5 with artificial speaker thing and the [TS]

01:29:22   550 without it but not that different [TS]

01:29:25   and it was it was a good halfway to the [TS]

01:29:29   test drive before I even remembered that [TS]

01:29:31   it had that sound feature before i even [TS]

01:29:34   thought to pay attention to it like it [TS]

01:29:35   was I I hardly even noticed it until i [TS]

01:29:37   remembered that it existed and then I [TS]

01:29:39   tried paying attention to it and I [TS]

01:29:41   couldn't notice it at all [TS]

01:29:42   so that's a little different words with [TS]

01:29:43   this like this it to meet the [TS]

01:29:45   requirements automakers would need to [TS]

01:29:47   add speaker that are audible from the [TS]

01:29:48   street speakers need you to processor [TS]

01:29:51   this they were played shows and sound [TS]

01:29:53   often a humming noise similar to that of [TS]

01:29:55   a gasoline burning engine only at low [TS]

01:29:57   speeds so I think like it will be way [TS]

01:30:01   weirder the m5 fake sound is is very [TS]

01:30:04   much not noticeable for the most part [TS]

01:30:06   with this that you're taking a vehicle [TS]

01:30:09   that is silent and having to generate [TS]

01:30:12   like a noticeable sound from it that [TS]

01:30:14   would be I can't imagine that not just [TS]

01:30:16   sounding really cheesy I think it'll be [TS]

01:30:18   sacrilegious I'm I've driven and a [TS]

01:30:20   couple of priuses and they make much [TS]

01:30:22   more whiny electric noise like I know [TS]

01:30:24   that like the previous is quiet and [TS]

01:30:26   doesn't sound like an engine but when [TS]

01:30:27   you're inside the prius and outside the [TS]

01:30:29   priest [TS]

01:30:29   it's a whiny and noisy and this thing [TS]

01:30:31   this test when you're inside it with [TS]

01:30:33   really really really quite incredibly [TS]

01:30:36   quiet maybe just he's better noise [TS]

01:30:37   insulation maybe because the motors are [TS]

01:30:39   higher quality and it would just be such [TS]

01:30:41   a shame to spoil that beautiful quite [TS]

01:30:44   experienced by having some sort of loser [TS]

01:30:47   buzzer going off in your tool and fuck [TS]

01:30:49   off thats why i feel like this I feel [TS]

01:30:51   like we win either way you know either [TS]

01:30:52   they don't put this rule into effect and [TS]

01:30:55   we get hybrid cars and R&B electric cars [TS]

01:30:58   that are tasteful or they put this role [TS]

01:31:01   into effect i'm going to laugh everybody [TS]

01:31:02   for a few years until they finally [TS]

01:31:04   figure out they don't need it anymore [TS]

01:31:05   but we really kill it is like everyone's [TS]

01:31:07   next round of supercars has some sort of [TS]

01:31:09   electric component like that the enzyme [TS]

01:31:10   replacement has electric component to [TS]

01:31:13   the NSX is going to have you know hybrid [TS]

01:31:15   powertrain imagine of those cars like [TS]

01:31:17   your million-dollar and so replacement [TS]

01:31:19   has to make a little buzzing noise when [TS]

01:31:20   you're pulling out of the parking lot [TS]

01:31:21   though that's just that's just beyond [TS]

01:31:25   the terrible you can't like going fine [TS]

01:31:27   if you wanna make a prius making noise [TS]

01:31:28   please don't make my supercar make a [TS]

01:31:31   noise when I back it up [TS]

01:31:43   have you seen the wienermobile I have [TS]

01:31:46   yes I somehow I've seen the weekend [TS]

01:31:49   maybe like three times in the last year [TS]

01:31:50   I guess maybe one of them like parks [TS]

01:31:52   nearby or something I don't know [TS]

01:31:53   you know it's funny because you guys [TS]

01:31:55   don't have krogers up where you are do [TS]

01:31:57   you [TS]

01:31:57   their groceries having a high of [TS]

01:31:59   southern thing what you say John it's a [TS]

01:32:01   southern thing for me is one myself I oh [TS]

01:32:04   yeah it's Ohio license out it kind of is [TS]

01:32:07   honestly I mean it's like it has it has [TS]

01:32:09   all the same things as the south is just [TS]

01:32:11   over there and it's just really the left [TS]

01:32:15   only do I bring it up because there was [TS]

01:32:17   a wienermobile parked in front of a one [TS]

01:32:19   of the 74 local krogers last summer i [TS]

01:32:22   want to say and i'm an idiot because I [TS]

01:32:25   didn't go in when we were walking into [TS]

01:32:27   kroger I figured all just running on the [TS]

01:32:29   way out then it disappeared you can go [TS]

01:32:30   into the wienermobile I think so I don't [TS]

01:32:33   think it's just like a truck right i [TS]

01:32:35   mean it's yeah with like Beyonce hmmm [TS]

01:32:38   yeah and it's not like Trans Am [TS]

01:32:40   taillights it's a Frankenstein mobile we [TS]

01:32:44   should we should maybe I see it for [TS]

01:32:47   something that adds to on your break now [TS]

01:32:48   Tiffany I want to at some point not only [TS]

01:32:51   be anywhere be able to actually want to [TS]

01:32:53   drive one and I wonder like what what is [TS]

01:32:56   involved in making that happen [TS]

01:32:58   yeah you have to be a college student i [TS]

01:33:00   think we like the people who is rather [TS]

01:33:02   than that you know there are doing [TS]

01:33:03   promotional things it's like those red [TS]

01:33:04   bull vans like they like it's just it's [TS]

01:33:06   a job somebody it drives all over the [TS]

01:33:08   place to do like promotional events or [TS]

01:33:10   just maybe I don't know maybe like I [TS]

01:33:14   wonder maybe the people who drive it [TS]

01:33:15   aren't actually oscar meyer employees [TS]

01:33:17   they're just people who oscar meyer pays [TS]

01:33:19   to drive the wienermobile around [TS]

01:33:21   different places like what if they're [TS]

01:33:22   just like you know plumbers for [TS]

01:33:24   something that they happen to be driving [TS]

01:33:25   around a lot anyway era [TS]

01:33:28   what do you think you're going together [TS]

01:33:29   this driving the wienermobile experience [TS]

01:33:31   will be able to say we drove the [TS]

01:33:33   wienermobile and we and we wouldn't know [TS]

01:33:34   we would have the satisfaction of having [TS]

01:33:36   driven the wienermobile just a truck you [TS]

01:33:38   know i know it i mean from I'm sure be a [TS]

01:33:41   very boring drive but we would just know [TS]

01:33:43   that we had driven the wienermobile on [TS]

01:33:45   that be very satisfied crash part of the [TS]

01:33:47   wienermobile into some other structure [TS]

01:33:49   that would be something [TS]

01:33:50   ok little wieners to the Windows Store [TS]

01:33:52   like the back one good at pretty far [TS]

01:33:55   yeah it takes something like it you're [TS]

01:33:57   making make a sharp turn the parking lot [TS]

01:33:59   knocked over the lights [TS]

01:34:00   yeah they like maybe crossed you know [TS]

01:34:02   crash into a Starbucks window that would [TS]

01:34:03   be fun [TS]

01:34:04   hey guys guys guess what real-time [TS]

01:34:06   follow-up tradition i know i know is [TS]

01:34:10   awesome [TS]

01:34:11   the hot dogger position of driving the [TS]

01:34:12   wienermobile is open the US citizens in [TS]

01:34:14   the job last from the first of june [TS]

01:34:15   until the following first of june only [TS]

01:34:17   college seniors who are about to [TS]

01:34:18   graduate are eligible both current [TS]

01:34:20   hotdoggers and Oscar my recruiters visit [TS]

01:34:23   the college campuses across the country [TS]

01:34:24   search of the next round of hot doggers [TS]

01:34:26   candidates are screened from an average [TS]

01:34:28   of two thousand applicants every March a [TS]

01:34:30   pool of 30 final-round candidates are [TS]

01:34:32   brought to kraft foods and oscar meyer [TS]

01:34:34   headquarters in madison wisconsin for [TS]

01:34:35   interviews each vehicle can hold two hot [TS]

01:34:38   doggers and 12 people are chosen [TS]

01:34:40   wait a minute so like I said it's a [TS]

01:34:43   college so what is the job then like do [TS]

01:34:45   you just sell hot dogs and i don't know [TS]

01:34:48   i don't think you saw how she just drive [TS]

01:34:49   around in Europe and make people happy [TS]

01:34:51   so you're so you're continuously head [TS]

01:34:53   and you just get to have it like as your [TS]

01:34:55   car for a year so you like parking on [TS]

01:34:57   campus somewhere that giant no no I [TS]

01:34:59   think the pageant ask traveling home [TS]

01:35:01   right you travel around for a year going [TS]

01:35:04   to krogers and sitting [TS]

01:35:06   oh that's why your heart that you have [TS]

01:35:07   to be a senior because you have to be [TS]

01:35:08   about I not have to do anything for a [TS]

01:35:10   year assuming any job prospects [TS]

01:35:12   this is your judgment and if you're [TS]

01:35:14   driving the winner ability probably [TS]

01:35:15   honestly and what do you do what do you [TS]

01:35:17   do after that you've really put it on [TS]

01:35:20   your résumé right you show up but you [TS]

01:35:21   sort of trying to get a job afterwards [TS]

01:35:22   so how have you spent the last year if [TS]

01:35:26   you want to drive any other kind of [TS]

01:35:27   novelty food shape vehicle haha the real [TS]

01:35:30   foot in the door in the industry [TS]