12: Vomit Ruins Everything


00:00:00   big week huge week we didn't record it [TS]

00:00:07   was before we got her it was a huge week [TS]

00:00:10   for most of the neutral hosts for the [TS]

00:00:12   majority oh man at and we went on a [TS]

00:00:17   vacation together and did not kill each [TS]

00:00:19   other [TS]

00:00:19   no this is good this was this is for [TS]

00:00:22   both you and TIFF and I was our first [TS]

00:00:24   couples vacation not only with each [TS]

00:00:27   other but in general and I i think we [TS]

00:00:29   survived and I know Aaron and I had [TS]

00:00:30   really gosh darn good time and that and [TS]

00:00:32   so I hope hope with the same can be said [TS]

00:00:34   for you guys although I think we're [TS]

00:00:36   about to find out the same can be said [TS]

00:00:37   for you regardless of whether or not we [TS]

00:00:39   were total turds [TS]

00:00:40   so well in fact my wife as it has [TS]

00:00:43   suggested that she misses you guys [TS]

00:00:45   during breakfast every morning now see [TS]

00:00:47   same thing you know we at least like you [TS]

00:00:49   during breakfast now that was it though [TS]

00:00:51   that was that was the only part every [TS]

00:00:53   other time totally sucked i feel like i [TS]

00:00:55   should have come just to show you what [TS]

00:00:57   it would be like traveling with someone [TS]

00:00:58   who does not make your time more fun [TS]

00:01:00   you'll get a bad impression of you know [TS]

00:01:04   like what it's like to all this is great [TS]

00:01:07   couples vacations be going this all the [TS]

00:01:09   time and you would have been in the [TS]

00:01:11   middle seat which would have been even [TS]

00:01:12   more funny because you wouldn't [TS]

00:01:13   interpret that i would say for i lifted [TS]

00:01:17   a tweet about this but it would have [TS]

00:01:19   been so much more for me I can't be in I [TS]

00:01:23   get motion sick very easily i can't be [TS]

00:01:25   in a car while you're racing around like [TS]

00:01:26   a maniac and well both of our lives both [TS]

00:01:30   of our wives claim the same problem and [TS]

00:01:32   yet it was a problem for neither of them [TS]

00:01:33   when they were in the room where they [TS]

00:01:35   were in the back seat belt if said that [TS]

00:01:37   she was almost puked tweeting something [TS]

00:01:38   once from the Nurburgring that's what [TS]

00:01:41   I'm saying halloween everything ahead of [TS]

00:01:43   ourselves that we get ahead of ourselves [TS]

00:01:44   alright vomit ruins everything [TS]

00:01:49   title I i tend to a groupie [TS]

00:01:52   instead you've got a kid now you know [TS]

00:01:55   then [TS]

00:01:57   well okay so we should probably explain [TS]

00:01:59   what what the heck we did and I don't [TS]

00:02:03   know if we if we adequately preface this [TS]

00:02:05   in previous episodes but we did we did [TS]

00:02:08   previously talked about how I had chosen [TS]

00:02:10   for my next car after much deliberation [TS]

00:02:13   chosen to go all out and be totally [TS]

00:02:15   ridiculous and get my dream car [TS]

00:02:18   the m5 and one of the reasons i was able [TS]

00:02:22   to do this is because of bmw's european [TS]

00:02:25   delivery discount and what most people I [TS]

00:02:29   i wish i had known about this so so [TS]

00:02:31   there's two things that you can do to [TS]

00:02:33   save money on a new BMW besides just [TS]

00:02:36   good negotiation which you should also [TS]

00:02:38   be doing one of them which i still [TS]

00:02:40   couldn't take advantage of is if you [TS]

00:02:43   join the BMW car club of america it what [TS]

00:02:46   Casey what is it costs like the 30 40 [TS]

00:02:48   bucks it was 48 I think something like [TS]

00:02:51   that it was between 1450 so they have a [TS]

00:02:54   rebate program through BMW and like BMW [TS]

00:02:57   supports this car club of fans It's in a [TS]

00:03:00   few little endorsement in different ways [TS]

00:03:02   if you are a member of this thing for at [TS]

00:03:06   least a year before you take delivery of [TS]

00:03:09   a new BMW the police or to buy they will [TS]

00:03:13   give you a credit and in the amount of [TS]

00:03:15   the credit depends on which model you [TS]

00:03:16   buy but like a 3-series credits $500 [TS]

00:03:19   5-series I think it's a thousand dollars [TS]

00:03:21   so if you plan to buy a BMW at least one [TS]

00:03:26   year from now you should really go join [TS]

00:03:28   the BMW CCA you'll get a cool magazine [TS]

00:03:31   every month etc so and then because you [TS]

00:03:34   know you paid forty bucks and then you [TS]

00:03:35   say like five hundred dollars when you [TS]

00:03:36   buy the car so that's one way to save [TS]

00:03:39   the other way to save is if you do [TS]

00:03:41   european delivery on the higher-priced [TS]

00:03:43   models you end up it ends up being such [TS]

00:03:47   a savings that actually can pay for the [TS]

00:03:49   trip and and so and and you know even if [TS]

00:03:52   not you still get a very heavily [TS]

00:03:53   discounted vacation out of it so [TS]

00:03:55   basically european delivery shaves off [TS]

00:03:59   about seven percent off the cost of the [TS]

00:04:01   car if you negotiated equally with how [TS]

00:04:04   you would have negotiated a regular [TS]

00:04:06   purchase so you can go online you can [TS]

00:04:09   find what the invoice prices are [TS]

00:04:12   throughout the NW forms and everything [TS]

00:04:13   you can find european delivery invoice [TS]

00:04:15   prices regular voice prices and you can [TS]

00:04:18   see the difference is usually about 7% [TS]

00:04:19   and and a common myth is that this is [TS]

00:04:23   because when the car is imported then [TS]

00:04:26   it's used and instead of new and then [TS]

00:04:28   the tariffs different from what I've [TS]

00:04:30   around various wiki's that is actually a [TS]

00:04:32   myth and the actual difference in tariff [TS]

00:04:34   is negligible and that it's mainly [TS]

00:04:37   cheaper because you're bypassing a lot [TS]

00:04:38   of the dealer network anyway so european [TS]

00:04:42   delivery is basically you fly over to [TS]

00:04:45   the main factory / office / showroom [TS]

00:04:49   world thing in munich germany and you [TS]

00:04:53   pick up your car in Munich you drive it [TS]

00:04:55   to any of a number of different ports or [TS]

00:04:58   you can drive it right back into munich [TS]

00:05:00   or just leave it there and and then they [TS]

00:05:02   put on a boat for you and ship it back [TS]

00:05:04   to the US and then you get your car like [TS]

00:05:06   you know month and a half two months [TS]

00:05:07   later so by doing that I saved seven [TS]

00:05:13   percent which is and so I got a really [TS]

00:05:15   great deal on this so i decided let's go [TS]

00:05:17   all out and get the ridiculous m5 and so [TS]

00:05:21   I was joking with casey about bringing [TS]

00:05:25   him and his wife along on this trip [TS]

00:05:27   probably for what two years something [TS]

00:05:29   like that well we actually did it and it [TS]

00:05:32   turned out great as you said we didn't [TS]

00:05:34   kill each other in fact we still like [TS]

00:05:35   each other quite a lot as far as i know [TS]

00:05:36   and you [TS]

00:05:38   yeah it was awesome so this this episode [TS]

00:05:42   of neutral which we've we've declared to [TS]

00:05:44   be the final episode at least for now [TS]

00:05:47   possibly ever we don't know yet you know [TS]

00:05:49   maybe there might be a season to someday [TS]

00:05:51   but you know probably not no no there's [TS]

00:05:53   no guarantees of that as I fair to say i [TS]

00:05:56   think that's fair John yep so this might [TS]

00:06:00   be the final episode at least the final [TS]

00:06:01   one for a while and we decided this [TS]

00:06:03   would be a great ender 22 basically [TS]

00:06:06   recap this trip and and what it's like [TS]

00:06:08   to take a european delivery vacation and [TS]

00:06:11   and how the m5 is in various situations [TS]

00:06:14   and and just what this was like and [TS]

00:06:17   casey and i both profusely apologized to [TS]

00:06:21   John in advance for how wonderful this [TS]

00:06:25   is going to be for him it's a time I [TS]

00:06:28   don't like to travel though so it's I [TS]

00:06:30   every time you talk about travel I just [TS]

00:06:32   think about how miserable I would be [TS]

00:06:33   doing it but it would be so great to be [TS]

00:06:36   there listening to you be miserable now [TS]

00:06:38   you have you think that now [TS]

00:06:39   but saying no I like the car though I [TS]

00:06:44   count for something oh you don't even [TS]

00:06:46   know John no didn't even know I'd like [TS]

00:06:48   the color though black yeah what you've [TS]

00:06:51   gotten is an attractive car I wouldn't [TS]

00:06:53   affect black for it but you picked white [TS]

00:06:55   I'd like kind of like that blue yeah [TS]

00:06:57   yeah like that the one is another press [TS]

00:06:59   shots that ya later tonight i don't i [TS]

00:07:01   don't mind that I don't know if I would [TS]

00:07:02   get in that color but i like that i [TS]

00:07:03   think this is a very attractive car [TS]

00:07:05   there's no reason to hide so having [TS]

00:07:07   having seen having seen most of the [TS]

00:07:09   colors available in person at some point [TS]

00:07:11   for various things I i think the blue [TS]

00:07:14   and the orange that comes in are [TS]

00:07:15   actually tied for my favorite that arms [TS]

00:07:17   are really well it yeah I like the black [TS]

00:07:19   better than that it the orange looks [TS]

00:07:20   really nice in person because it looks [TS]

00:07:22   almost read and and so it's just a [TS]

00:07:24   little bit towards orange you know from [TS]

00:07:27   red and it's actually it again in person [TS]

00:07:30   it's a very very nice color i would say [TS]

00:07:32   it's just as good as that blue and if I [TS]

00:07:35   were more of a showy flashy person I [TS]

00:07:37   would have gotten one of those colors [TS]

00:07:38   but i'm not and so I got it in black and [TS]

00:07:41   i happen to like black a lot you know [TS]

00:07:43   iíve mentioned in the past how I don't [TS]

00:07:44   think I could ever really drive around [TS]

00:07:46   like a Porsche or Lamborghini or [TS]

00:07:48   anything crazy like that you know even [TS]

00:07:50   if money were no object just because i [TS]

00:07:52   don't i don't want to be that [TS]

00:07:53   conspicuous I don't think they'll let [TS]

00:07:55   you buy it if you say porsche to so haha [TS]

00:07:58   sorry everyone can please email john the [TS]

00:08:01   proper pronunciation of that so you know [TS]

00:08:05   I I don't like big flashy cars i like [TS]

00:08:08   nice cars that happen to be really fast [TS]

00:08:11   but you know to to the casual observer [TS]

00:08:12   it looks like every other nice car like [TS]

00:08:15   not not like a crazy sports car the [TS]

00:08:17   casual observer is going to notice those [TS]

00:08:19   wheels that's all I'm saying maybe well [TS]

00:08:21   you know a lot of cars now getting [TS]

00:08:23   bigger sport your wheels even even [TS]

00:08:26   pretty far down market so you know i [TS]

00:08:29   don't i don't know i think it's [TS]

00:08:30   definitely still stand out I hadn't [TS]

00:08:31   noticed the wheels that much until you [TS]

00:08:33   started posting pictures of yours and my [TS]

00:08:34   co well now now I'll know if I cm3 be [TS]

00:08:37   there in five because those jump out at [TS]

00:08:38   me [TS]

00:08:39   well you know it's even what's even [TS]

00:08:40   crazier so it is still quite wintry over [TS]

00:08:44   in Germany and and because they require [TS]

00:08:47   snow tires in certain conditions through [TS]

00:08:50   april fifteenth [TS]

00:08:52   we had to vent snow tires for this and [TS]

00:08:55   there's a great program that BMW [TS]

00:08:56   officially authorizes and works with run [TS]

00:08:59   by like one guy who just happens to love [TS]

00:09:01   doing this stuff and from what I gather [TS]

00:09:04   he doesn't really make much money on it [TS]

00:09:05   but he just he does snow tire rental for [TS]

00:09:08   European deliveries for cars that don't [TS]

00:09:10   come with all-season tires so which is [TS]

00:09:13   all take all the end models and some of [TS]

00:09:15   them support packages on regular cars so [TS]

00:09:17   anyway so what you saw is actually the [TS]

00:09:20   snow tires and those who are only I [TS]

00:09:22   believe 19-inch rims [TS]

00:09:24   that's right and and the ones i'm the [TS]

00:09:25   the regular summer tires our twenties [TS]

00:09:28   and so the regular ones will be and [TS]

00:09:30   there are similar design but but 2719 so [TS]

00:09:33   they're even more outrageous even bigger [TS]

00:09:35   even even more obvious and supported to [TS]

00:09:37   everyone except past Marco as i [TS]

00:09:41   mentioned in in previous shows i would [TS]

00:09:42   never noticed wheels before about six [TS]

00:09:45   months ago and the funny thing is when [TS]

00:09:47   there was a time where we needed to know [TS]

00:09:50   how fast we could go on the snow tires [TS]

00:09:53   and we'll get to that in a minute [TS]

00:09:54   and so I looked at the snow tires and [TS]

00:09:56   they were freaking Pirellis they were [TS]

00:09:58   pirelli snow tires and at that to me two [TS]

00:10:01   strikes me saying they're 19-inch [TS]

00:10:03   pirelli snow tires that that's absurd in [TS]

00:10:06   every possible way [TS]

00:10:07   why is that a curiosity because I'm I'm [TS]

00:10:10   not enough of a tired to know why don't [TS]

00:10:11   worry I'm not a big-tire nerd but [TS]

00:10:13   probably is generally speaking are not [TS]

00:10:15   cheap tires and and so here it is that [TS]

00:10:18   you're not getting some like falken snow [TS]

00:10:21   tire or something like that you know [TS]

00:10:22   some crap brand its Pirellis noted John [TS]

00:10:26   doesn't uh doesn't for use Pirellis [TS]

00:10:29   water making that up but the competition [TS]

00:10:31   among tire manufacturers to get like the [TS]

00:10:34   you know the prestige appointments I i [TS]

00:10:38   get the impression that each round for [TS]

00:10:41   each new car each sort of prestige [TS]

00:10:42   carmaker they just sick the tire makers [TS]

00:10:44   against each other and so I'm always [TS]

00:10:46   surprised when you know like something [TS]

00:10:47   like Goodyear ends up on like some [TS]

00:10:49   supercar it's like they they just beat [TS]

00:10:50   everybody out for whatever they're [TS]

00:10:52   willing to do but but yet pirelli has [TS]

00:10:54   been heavily featured in Italian [TS]

00:10:56   performance cars and many performance [TS]

00:10:58   cars for many years like it's got a [TS]

00:11:00   reputation as a performance brand you [TS]

00:11:02   think you're saying do you say Italian [TS]

00:11:05   I did not you sure I'm pretty darn sure [TS]

00:11:09   alright sorry continue I think you did [TS]

00:11:10   i'm going to playback Italian [TS]

00:11:14   performance cars and italian performance [TS]

00:11:15   cars at a time a time I i mean if i did [TS]

00:11:18   it was my mouth betraying me anyway yeah [TS]

00:11:23   so they have a reputation for making [TS]

00:11:24   performance tires and so when you think [TS]

00:11:26   about are gonna put on the winter tires [TS]

00:11:28   you think you're going to get a brand [TS]

00:11:29   that does not have that receptor [TS]

00:11:30   reputation of examine that makes all [TS]

00:11:32   season tires are just like every man [TS]

00:11:34   tires and like really what's the point [TS]

00:11:35   of paralysis whole thing is a [TS]

00:11:36   high-performance high-speed great grip [TS]

00:11:40   it's like won't be in the winter I don't [TS]

00:11:41   want to really be going that fast and i [TS]

00:11:43   want that i want two different [TS]

00:11:44   performance characteristics in terms of [TS]

00:11:46   gripping onto snow and yeah i dunno they [TS]

00:11:49   do make winter tires because [TS]

00:11:50   occasionally I see them advertised or [TS]

00:11:52   mentioned in car magazines and they're [TS]

00:11:54   not cheap i mean for reference [TS]

00:11:56   I i have here what BMW charges for the [TS]

00:11:59   the rim entire sets and this is for for [TS]

00:12:04   both for all four wheels a room entire [TS]

00:12:06   set for this is nice big 19 inch rim and [TS]

00:12:10   they're probably w 240 so 20 s tues [TS]

00:12:13   total price is like 3200 those are [TS]

00:12:19   staggered right so the rears are bigger [TS]

00:12:20   than the front so I didn't even look [TS]

00:12:21   calm I no actually I don't [TS]

00:12:23   I don't believe so many so check you [TS]

00:12:24   know know that there they are square [TS]

00:12:27   normally the in on summer tires the car [TS]

00:12:29   is staggered the readers of a wider but [TS]

00:12:31   the the winter tires r square anyway so [TS]

00:12:36   I i forgot we were even more in the [TS]

00:12:40   store anyway we were in Germany driving [TS]

00:12:41   fast so anyway the thing that that's [TS]

00:12:45   cracks me up about this trip is that so [TS]

00:12:48   Aaron and I drove from Richmond Virginia [TS]

00:12:50   up to marketing tips house because we [TS]

00:12:53   wanted to make sure that we're all going [TS]

00:12:55   to be on the same transatlantic flight [TS]

00:12:56   so if somebody gets doomed we're all [TS]

00:12:58   doomed and we were going to fly up to [TS]

00:13:00   JFK and just meet you guys in the [TS]

00:13:02   airport but as it turns out it was about [TS]

00:13:04   the same money for the two of us to go [TS]

00:13:07   to JFK by plane as it was for one of us [TS]

00:13:10   to go to Munich biplane and so we were [TS]

00:13:12   like you know that the heck with it will [TS]

00:13:14   just drive up [TS]

00:13:15   well we arrived there in in I pack [TS]

00:13:17   terribly and aaron is a lady so by [TS]

00:13:21   definition she tends to pack a lot and I [TS]

00:13:24   apparently milady as well email Marco so [TS]

00:13:28   anyway so mark when I look at all of our [TS]

00:13:30   luggage and realize this could be an [TS]

00:13:31   issue and so what do to nerds do when [TS]

00:13:34   they are posed with this sort of problem [TS]

00:13:36   and they don't want to get some munich [TS]

00:13:37   and realize oh crap we can't fit all the [TS]

00:13:39   John wait John what would you have done [TS]

00:13:41   this situation that's a good question [TS]

00:13:42   thank you you might have too much [TS]

00:13:44   luggage and you don't really know how [TS]

00:13:46   much the car will hold when you get [TS]

00:13:47   there what do you do I would have [TS]

00:13:49   thought of this before packing i don't [TS]

00:13:51   think i would be in a situation where I [TS]

00:13:52   had completed packing and then started [TS]

00:13:55   looking at this stuff and five hey wait [TS]

00:13:57   a second we have to fit all this in the [TS]

00:13:58   car and i would plan ahead i can still [TS]

00:14:01   light [TS]

00:14:01   Aaron and I kind of did that picky but [TS]

00:14:03   carry on market with what you and I [TS]

00:14:05   concluded [TS]

00:14:06   well we were you know for adults with [TS]

00:14:08   four large square suitcases and we know [TS]

00:14:11   the cars don't have infinite space and [TS]

00:14:13   that would have been fairly [TS]

00:14:14   uncomfortable for whoever was sitting in [TS]

00:14:16   the back seat at the time which turned [TS]

00:14:17   out to be a senior most of the time or [TS]

00:14:20   almost all the time actually sorry but [TS]

00:14:22   we would do wouldn't feel uncomfortable [TS]

00:14:25   be sitting with somebody's giant [TS]

00:14:26   rectangular suitcase in the back seat [TS]

00:14:27   with you so we decided well we know that [TS]

00:14:32   the car and picking up is a 5-series [TS]

00:14:35   let's just go to a dealer with all of [TS]

00:14:37   our luggage and put it in the trunk of a [TS]

00:14:39   5-series and see if it's i would not [TS]

00:14:42   have done that we did when he certainly [TS]

00:14:46   did and the worst part is this is this [TS]

00:14:48   is kind of to build on what you were [TS]

00:14:50   saying John is that Aaron and I packed [TS]

00:14:51   one suitcase each but they were [TS]

00:14:53   reasonably large I don't remember a [TS]

00:14:55   number off the top of my head but we [TS]

00:14:56   knew enough to realize this could end up [TS]

00:14:58   badly and so what we ended up doing was [TS]

00:15:01   putting in the back of our car to [TS]

00:15:03   smaller suitcases so if if desperation [TS]

00:15:06   came we could swap the two small guys [TS]

00:15:09   for one big guy [TS]

00:15:10   thus leaving us with one large suitcase [TS]

00:15:13   and two smaller suitcases instead of two [TS]

00:15:15   large suitcases and she was not adjusted [TS]

00:15:17   duffel bags that's what i would suggest [TS]

00:15:19   it because they're squishing you can [TS]

00:15:20   fill more of the trunk volume I did [TS]

00:15:22   suggest that however you know at tate [TS]

00:15:25   like packing a duffel bag it's like who [TS]

00:15:27   who's gonna be the one to pack a duffel [TS]

00:15:28   bag you know nobody wanted [TS]

00:15:30   you can get like duffel bags that have [TS]

00:15:31   like a kind of a stiffer bottom where [TS]

00:15:33   your clothes won't be entirely it's not [TS]

00:15:35   like you're just taking us not like a [TS]

00:15:36   laundry bag we just jam your clothes in [TS]

00:15:38   there can be done that I would have [TS]

00:15:41   required somebody buying a whole new [TS]

00:15:42   luggage just for the joy that you don't [TS]

00:15:44   have either one of you guys have I have [TS]

00:15:46   some beautiful bags [TS]

00:15:47   I don't have sturdy ones i have some [TS]

00:15:48   like college duffel bag somewhere right [TS]

00:15:50   everybody has that but yeah so we ended [TS]

00:15:53   up going to the BMW dealer this was [TS]

00:15:54   friday afternoon Saturday morning [TS]

00:15:57   Saturday morning we end up going to the [TS]

00:15:58   local BMW dealer in going to then they [TS]

00:16:00   actually had an m5 in the showroom in [TS]

00:16:02   white one a white one I was very pleased [TS]

00:16:05   but I and it's terrible it shut up [TS]

00:16:08   sofas attendants we spent a solid half [TS]

00:16:10   an hour playing tetris in the trunk and [TS]

00:16:12   surprisingly none nobody at the dealer [TS]

00:16:14   gave us any lip about it nor did we get [TS]

00:16:16   that many cross looks or side eyes or [TS]

00:16:18   anything like that which I was very [TS]

00:16:19   happy about [TS]

00:16:21   well it was like it was like nine in the [TS]

00:16:23   morning they just opened [TS]

00:16:24   that's true and I i had spent the better [TS]

00:16:27   part of the entire week beforehand in [TS]

00:16:29   that dealership doing paperwork and [TS]

00:16:31   finance apps [TS]

00:16:32   ok I think about that . they were very [TS]

00:16:34   comfortable with me doing weird things [TS]

00:16:36   in the dealership so yeah so we actually [TS]

00:16:38   went and we we figure out how they fit [TS]

00:16:41   and we took pictures of exactly how to [TS]

00:16:43   do the arrangement so we would know when [TS]

00:16:44   we got there and and it worked so we [TS]

00:16:48   figured out we we got ourselves to [TS]

00:16:50   Munich and it was snowing freezing it [TS]

00:16:54   turns out this is like the the coldest [TS]

00:16:55   marks they've ever had a record or [TS]

00:16:57   something like that and it was it was [TS]

00:16:59   pretty great so we get there we decided [TS]

00:17:02   to kill we had to kill two days in [TS]

00:17:04   Munich before we got the car because we [TS]

00:17:07   were ready when you are so easy with him [TS]

00:17:10   yeah so and and in Germany [TS]

00:17:13   not only is Easter Sunday a holiday but [TS]

00:17:15   the monday following it is also a [TS]

00:17:17   holiday so we had to pick up the car on [TS]

00:17:19   Tuesday and yes so sunday and monday we [TS]

00:17:22   had all day to kill so we did the BMW [TS]

00:17:25   Welt it's kind of like BMW world it's [TS]

00:17:27   like disney world full of people use in [TS]

00:17:29   a giant building and gift shop and [TS]

00:17:32   and tours and everything and pretty cool [TS]

00:17:35   in the museum across the street full of [TS]

00:17:38   all the old BMWs engines motorcycles a [TS]

00:17:42   couple of boat engine plane engines and [TS]

00:17:46   all every classic BMW model you can [TS]

00:17:48   think of all the animals of course the [TS]

00:17:50   one after that the m1 rather and there [TS]

00:17:53   was honor there was not a wanna but [TS]

00:17:55   there was an m1 and you know that [TS]

00:17:57   everybody's favorite am-5 now they did [TS]

00:18:01   not they did not have any 39 m5 I was [TS]

00:18:03   very sad about that they had the the [TS]

00:18:05   original i believe was the original in [TS]

00:18:07   five and i can't remember the model [TS]

00:18:08   designation off the top of my head but [TS]

00:18:09   it was from like 89 I think something [TS]

00:18:12   like that or it may be earlier than that [TS]

00:18:14   and usually three or that anyway so that [TS]

00:18:18   was a blast [TS]

00:18:18   highly recommended we we killed a whole [TS]

00:18:20   day just at the Museum between them [TS]

00:18:22   Welton museum yeah we killed the entire [TS]

00:18:24   day and and I I can only speak for Aaron [TS]

00:18:26   but Aaron had said that she had quite [TS]

00:18:29   like the museum and not to say that [TS]

00:18:30   Aaron doesn't like cars or that she's [TS]

00:18:31   not amused by museums but I mean let's [TS]

00:18:34   be honest the cars aren't your cup of [TS]

00:18:35   tea if they don't rip your engine haha [TS]

00:18:38   then that i could imagine that would be [TS]

00:18:40   boring and I know Aaron really like 10 [TS]

00:18:42   tips certainly looked like she enjoyed [TS]

00:18:44   it a lot as well yeah she was enjoying [TS]

00:18:46   taking a ridiculous quantity of pictures [TS]

00:18:50   of me looking at engines giving the [TS]

00:18:53   exact same relatively blank expression [TS]

00:18:56   in almost every picture and so that was [TS]

00:18:59   spotted but yeah so the museum was a lot [TS]

00:19:02   of fun it's extremely well-designed and [TS]

00:19:04   and very cool very interesting even if [TS]

00:19:07   you aren't total BMW nerds like us [TS]

00:19:09   even John you might you might have maybe [TS]

00:19:12   25 minutes of happiness in there and [TS]

00:19:15   that's really sad I'm happy all the time [TS]

00:19:18   I'm happy on the inside kind of clown [TS]

00:19:20   haha and you hit so alright so after [TS]

00:19:26   then sunday went to the deutsches museum [TS]

00:19:28   which was awesome you know big like [TS]

00:19:31   science tech museum and in Munich and [TS]

00:19:32   that was fantastic we only saw like half [TS]

00:19:34   of it i feel i mean monday and yeah oh [TS]

00:19:36   yeah we we saw probably less than half [TS]

00:19:38   because turns out it's ridiculously huge [TS]

00:19:40   and there we saw even more engines and [TS]

00:19:42   we explained we both went over to the [TS]

00:19:45   torque converter hand exhibit and [TS]

00:19:47   demonstrated to our wives separately [TS]

00:19:49   demonstrate to our wives how automatics [TS]

00:19:52   work and why is that [TS]

00:19:55   yeah that was that was an excellent [TS]

00:19:57   moment for me to be here and yeah so [TS]

00:20:01   then tuesday morning we got to go pick [TS]

00:20:02   up the car okay so we go and and really [TS]

00:20:06   and so we went back to be to BMW Welt [TS]

00:20:08   and we go to the premium lounge which is [TS]

00:20:10   where everybody can when they have [TS]

00:20:11   infinite free food and free coffee and [TS]

00:20:14   everything and you can sit around there [TS]

00:20:15   forever which we later made our wives [TS]

00:20:17   actually do for a reason that I can't [TS]

00:20:19   discuss in the show but regardless you [TS]

00:20:22   go to be able to be lounge and me we [TS]

00:20:25   weren't taking a dump or anything about [TS]

00:20:26   something else but now I'm intrigued [TS]

00:20:31   I'll tell you afterward and so so we go [TS]

00:20:34   to this lounge and everything I mean so [TS]

00:20:38   I i went with my in-laws to buy a lexus [TS]

00:20:41   before and tiff has alexis i want i [TS]

00:20:44   guess that's probably a better example [TS]

00:20:46   buying most luxury cars they treat you [TS]

00:20:49   pretty well the experience is pretty [TS]

00:20:50   good by buying most cars experiences at [TS]

00:20:53   least alright but the luxury brands tend [TS]

00:20:55   to go out of their way to really make it [TS]

00:20:57   you know [TS]

00:20:58   plush they did they give you here here's [TS]

00:21:00   a pot of water and let you know let me [TS]

00:21:01   offer you like you want a glass of wine [TS]

00:21:03   or anything like that mean there they go [TS]

00:21:04   they go crazy and make you does not put [TS]

00:21:07   your guard up though you weren't born in [TS]

00:21:10   New York but now technically I guess you [TS]

00:21:12   are new yorker so I train you in the [TS]

00:21:13   ways of New York little start start [TS]

00:21:15   doing things that to put you at ease and [TS]

00:21:18   make you comfortable [TS]

00:21:19   you're the warning ladies to go up [TS]

00:21:21   because especially when they're about to [TS]

00:21:22   extract thousand the hospital [TS]

00:21:25   well yeah I mean you know it obviously [TS]

00:21:28   is not applicable in this particular [TS]

00:21:29   situation but i'm saying that's what my [TS]

00:21:31   instinct would be even though i know [TS]

00:21:33   very well like I you know I'm taking [TS]

00:21:35   delivery of a car that you know I've [TS]

00:21:37   already bought it [TS]

00:21:37   they're trying to make it nice because [TS]

00:21:39   they're trying to be nice but it's just [TS]

00:21:40   yeah I mean usually usually agree with [TS]

00:21:44   you like like it makes me it makes me [TS]

00:21:45   uncomfortable or rather it makes me feel [TS]

00:21:48   like I'm getting scammed whenever it's [TS]

00:21:50   very obvious that whatever i'm about to [TS]

00:21:52   buy has such a ridiculously large profit [TS]

00:21:55   margin and even afford to do this to be [TS]

00:21:57   don't really like really super [TS]

00:21:59   over-the-top nice like yeah then I'm [TS]

00:22:01   like okay well I i am paying for all [TS]

00:22:03   this in a way and ghosts are more like [TS]

00:22:05   it's worth it to them to put the money [TS]

00:22:07   into that experience to distract you [TS]

00:22:08   from how they're screwing us right [TS]

00:22:10   exactly but yeah but this obviously [TS]

00:22:13   already had already established the [TS]

00:22:14   money and paid and you know establish [TS]

00:22:16   the pricing so this is just picking it [TS]

00:22:18   up and and every stage of the way and I [TS]

00:22:22   should point out to we we were there for [TS]

00:22:25   a little while and we saw a bunch of [TS]

00:22:27   deliveries including Casey was that one [TS]

00:22:30   series you saw that was super super [TS]

00:22:33   inexpensive well i think was a 120 [TS]

00:22:35   diesel if i'm not mistaken and it was so [TS]

00:22:38   inexpensive and i don't mean this to [TS]

00:22:41   sound disrespectful or snarky or [TS]

00:22:43   anything but it was so inexpensive for [TS]

00:22:44   BMW that actually a hub caps which I [TS]

00:22:46   didn't think BMW did anymore right but [TS]

00:22:48   now they have a hole low end of cars [TS]

00:22:51   they just don't sell in the US but they [TS]

00:22:52   saw a lot of them in Germany which by [TS]

00:22:54   the way is a quick aside one thing that [TS]

00:22:56   mark when i noticed that i thought was [TS]

00:22:57   really incredible made me very jealous [TS]

00:22:59   was that apparently the guy i would say [TS]

00:23:02   the overwhelming majority of bmw's that [TS]

00:23:04   we saw were not badge so they would say [TS]

00:23:08   BMW of course but they would not say x [TS]

00:23:10   54 m 5 or 3 35 or whatever the case may [TS]

00:23:13   be there was no model designation on the [TS]

00:23:16   trunk or boot depending on what country [TS]

00:23:18   you live in [TS]

00:23:18   and I thought that was really awesome [TS]

00:23:20   and i'm kinda jealous that that's a [TS]

00:23:21   no-cost option for them [TS]

00:23:23   yeah and it wasn't just being w it just [TS]

00:23:24   seemed like that seemed like that was [TS]

00:23:26   just more normal they're like many cars [TS]

00:23:28   just weren't badge or were minimally [TS]

00:23:31   badge so we had to identify things by [TS]

00:23:34   like you know the exhaust tips and [TS]

00:23:36   things like that like that is that an [TS]

00:23:37   option because you don't want people to [TS]

00:23:39   know that you don't have the fanciest [TS]

00:23:40   one is that the idea behind think it's I [TS]

00:23:43   think it's because if you don't want [TS]

00:23:44   that either extreme either you don't [TS]

00:23:47   want people to know that you have the [TS]

00:23:48   super flashy car or that you don't want [TS]

00:23:50   people to know they have a 120 diesel [TS]

00:23:52   that that for BMW was absurdly to get [TS]

00:23:54   that seems so strange to me though [TS]

00:23:56   because the only people who care car [TS]

00:23:57   people and car we can tell anyway that's [TS]

00:24:00   true well I just a little community [TS]

00:24:02   could just be like a cultural thing like [TS]

00:24:03   a cultural preference thing like you [TS]

00:24:05   know here we we have pretty big [TS]

00:24:07   divisions between smart people like us [TS]

00:24:11   and people who let dealer badging be [TS]

00:24:13   attached to their car forever [TS]

00:24:15   yeah ? ground behind one of those people [TS]

00:24:18   like boy I hope you got a lot of money [TS]

00:24:19   off my car [TS]

00:24:20   yeah the ones that have like not you [TS]

00:24:22   know like you know my dealer gives me a [TS]

00:24:24   license plate frame that's fine I can [TS]

00:24:26   take it off but the ones that actually [TS]

00:24:28   extends all their own logo like on the [TS]

00:24:30   other side of the trunk lid opposite the [TS]

00:24:32   real car look it has big baby quietly [TS]

00:24:35   shiny plastic things that big blue on [TS]

00:24:38   dear let it like that you know stick out [TS]

00:24:41   yeah it's terrible but like but hey I i [TS]

00:24:43   can be bought you know give me a couple [TS]

00:24:44   thousand dollars off the carhop i'll put [TS]

00:24:46   a permanent silver add-on you're on the [TS]

00:24:48   back of my car and if it falls off on a [TS]

00:24:50   year oops [TS]

00:24:52   nice anyway so and and one thing to you [TS]

00:24:56   know that seeing the cars over there [TS]

00:24:58   gas is way more expensive over there [TS]

00:25:00   shouldn't be news anybody really [TS]

00:25:02   listening to this gas is so much more [TS]

00:25:05   expensive that not only were diesel [TS]

00:25:06   obviously a lot more common because [TS]

00:25:07   diesel is generally cheaper but just [TS]

00:25:11   overall the the engines of the cars we [TS]

00:25:14   saw where we're mostly very small [TS]

00:25:16   efficient engines we saw a lot of like [TS]

00:25:19   you know in the BMW line if you have [TS]

00:25:20   like the 320 the 520 that you know the [TS]

00:25:24   318 118 like all like the small engines [TS]

00:25:27   with those last two digits there [TS]

00:25:29   I didn't see anything above a 30 so by [TS]

00:25:33   BMWs parlance that's nothing above [TS]

00:25:34   roughly a 3.8 liter v6 or i6 whatever it [TS]

00:25:38   is and I don't even know what they use [TS]

00:25:43   the thirties for exactly with the [TS]

00:25:45   current model anyway they were very very [TS]

00:25:47   few like large engine super-big high-end [TS]

00:25:51   ones that we saw even even out on the [TS]

00:25:53   roads or you know anywhere we saw very [TS]

00:25:55   very few large engine car just because [TS]

00:25:57   it's so it's so ridiculous over there to [TS]

00:26:01   have one because the gas is so expensive [TS]

00:26:03   like filling up filling up the m5 tank [TS]

00:26:06   which is 21 gallons filling it up costs [TS]

00:26:09   over a hundred euros and so its current [TS]

00:26:13   rate something like a hundred and twenty [TS]

00:26:14   dollars and so it's quite a bit of money [TS]

00:26:17   anyway obviously I i think if i lived [TS]

00:26:22   there that would if that would have more [TS]

00:26:24   relevance on my decision to get one and [TS]

00:26:26   that's why nobody does over there [TS]

00:26:28   so anyway so we pick up the car and and [TS]

00:26:32   so the luxury was was really quite [TS]

00:26:35   something because this is there this is [TS]

00:26:37   like their flagship place there the [TS]

00:26:40   their flagship store in a way and its [TS]

00:26:43   really good premium experience and the [TS]

00:26:44   whole time I just kept thinking I can't [TS]

00:26:45   believe that this cost me less money [TS]

00:26:48   than picking it up in the states and [TS]

00:26:50   everything that this is something that [TS]

00:26:53   echoed throughout the entire BMW [TS]

00:26:56   european delivery experience and i [TS]

00:26:58   really i really do mean this at a very [TS]

00:27:01   deep level everyone did their job right [TS]

00:27:04   and everything worked and and that's [TS]

00:27:06   really you know here in the US and I [TS]

00:27:08   don't know how many other places but [TS]

00:27:09   certainly in the u.s. you are accustomed [TS]

00:27:12   to a lot of people just screwing things [TS]

00:27:15   up routinely a lot of things not working [TS]

00:27:19   the way they should and and so there's a [TS]

00:27:22   lot of little details like like when [TS]

00:27:24   they bring you to your car they bring [TS]

00:27:26   you down the stairwell and you overlook [TS]

00:27:28   your car and all the cars are on little [TS]

00:27:31   spinning turntables and when you when [TS]

00:27:35   you approach this overlook the salesman [TS]

00:27:38   who's bringing you to the car [TS]

00:27:39   it's not really a Salesman that's [TS]

00:27:41   already been made anyway that the person [TS]

00:27:43   bring you to the car website an ipad and [TS]

00:27:46   use a custom a full of German I could [TS]

00:27:48   understand to start a spotlight on your [TS]

00:27:52   car and to start the turntable spinning [TS]

00:27:55   as you approach and the best part about [TS]

00:27:57   it to me was that I'd like you said it's [TS]

00:28:00   on you you go down a level and on this [TS]

00:28:02   landing while you're still on the [TS]

00:28:03   stairwell you haven't you gone halfway [TS]

00:28:05   down the stairwell [TS]

00:28:06   that's when they turn on the spotlight [TS]

00:28:07   and they engage the turntable and and i [TS]

00:28:09   was listening to to the delivery [TS]

00:28:11   specialist or whatever he calls himself [TS]

00:28:13   and he was telling you about why the car [TS]

00:28:15   was designed the way it was and what was [TS]

00:28:17   even more interesting was it to me [TS]

00:28:19   anyway I don't know what your impression [TS]

00:28:21   was but to me it didn't sound like just [TS]

00:28:22   bullcrap sales talk [TS]

00:28:24   it sounded like he genuinely had [TS]

00:28:26   researched have been taught or learned [TS]

00:28:28   why event was placed there or why that [TS]

00:28:33   you know this this line was done in this [TS]

00:28:36   way [TS]

00:28:37   total and I it was very very interesting [TS]

00:28:39   and very cool [TS]

00:28:40   yeah and and so just you know every [TS]

00:28:43   every part of it was very carefully [TS]

00:28:45   designed very carefully orchestrated and [TS]

00:28:47   everything worked its I've never been to [TS]

00:28:50   disney world but from what I understand [TS]

00:28:52   from what people have said about 20 it [TS]

00:28:54   sounds like they have a lot of the same [TS]

00:28:55   philosophies thereof like you know you [TS]

00:28:58   shouldn't see any seams and everything [TS]

00:29:00   should always work like it's like they [TS]

00:29:01   really nailed that it is you know it you [TS]

00:29:05   know if that if that was anywhere in [TS]

00:29:06   America even at a BMW facility in [TS]

00:29:08   America cannot likelihood you know that [TS]

00:29:12   like if there be like one turntable that [TS]

00:29:14   just didn't work and so like you know a [TS]

00:29:16   tenth of the deliveries that day just [TS]

00:29:17   wouldn't have the turntable working and [TS]

00:29:19   have to explain how sorry [TS]

00:29:21   normally it's been good don't know [TS]

00:29:22   what's broken you know you know that [TS]

00:29:24   would happen here [TS]

00:29:25   yeah but that definitely is the ethos in [TS]

00:29:27   disney world but it's a lot harder to [TS]

00:29:29   hold that line in a gigantic theme park [TS]

00:29:31   filled with screaming children and [TS]

00:29:33   certain tourists than it is in the end [TS]

00:29:35   in the environment that you're in [TS]

00:29:37   of course but but you know it's it's [TS]

00:29:39   that it's that work ethic and that [TS]

00:29:42   attention to detail that this needs to [TS]

00:29:44   work correctly [TS]

00:29:46   did you notice that like in the rest of [TS]

00:29:47   Germany like that this is not you know [TS]

00:29:49   that the sort of Germany toasted the [TS]

00:29:51   stereotype we have over here is that [TS]

00:29:52   every part of their societies like that [TS]

00:29:54   from the guy who serves your coffee at [TS]

00:29:56   the coffee shop to like the street signs [TS]

00:29:59   and traffic lights and you know [TS]

00:30:01   everything [TS]

00:30:02   it wasn't I mean it wasn't absolutely [TS]

00:30:04   perfect everywhere obviously that that's [TS]

00:30:06   probably impossible or at least [TS]

00:30:08   unhealthy but it was surprisingly close [TS]

00:30:11   it really like and we'll get into the [TS]

00:30:14   drivers in a bit but it was it was [TS]

00:30:16   surprisingly good just just in general [TS]

00:30:19   think like people did their jobs right [TS]

00:30:22   and things worked one was interesting to [TS]

00:30:25   me as well i am i'm probably reading too [TS]

00:30:27   much into this but again like John [TS]

00:30:30   saying that the the American stereotype [TS]

00:30:31   of a German is that they're very [TS]

00:30:32   efficient very serious not mean or not [TS]

00:30:35   bad tempered with serious and everything [TS]

00:30:38   is very specific and and i don't know i [TS]

00:30:40   just got such a laugh over the fact that [TS]

00:30:42   your delivery time was nine ten [TS]

00:30:44   it wasn't 909 it wasn't 911 [TS]

00:30:48   it was nine ten and I mean we walked out [TS]

00:30:51   there i think nine ten on the nose and [TS]

00:30:53   and it was your there and at what I [TS]

00:30:55   believe his name is Michael was right [TS]

00:30:56   there waiting for us [TS]

00:30:57   yeah i mean 'animal again it was just so [TS]

00:30:59   delightfully German and i don't mean [TS]

00:31:01   that just in inside in a sarcastic way I [TS]

00:31:03   mean I genuinely I thought it was so [TS]

00:31:05   delightfully German that that was the [TS]

00:31:06   case right well if we were even joking [TS]

00:31:08   like we were after we pick the car we [TS]

00:31:11   come back to the lounge to get our stuff [TS]

00:31:13   and get like a get a little bit of [TS]

00:31:14   coffee or something and and so it was [TS]

00:31:17   like eleven o'clock and they had said [TS]

00:31:19   like you know what are serving lunch at [TS]

00:31:22   eleven at this forgot about the human [TS]

00:31:24   lounge and exactly at eleven o'clock [TS]

00:31:27   somebody had walked out and was replayed [TS]

00:31:30   misplacing sandwiches on on the buffet [TS]

00:31:32   and everything it was like exactly on [TS]

00:31:34   the nose eleven o'clock [TS]

00:31:35   BAM lunch like me and you can case you [TS]

00:31:38   you notice that in common that like that [TS]

00:31:39   that is so stereotypically chicken but [TS]

00:31:42   it's truly get it [TS]

00:31:44   that's a and again you know that John's [TS]

00:31:46   good question like how much this how [TS]

00:31:48   much this applies outside of this [TS]

00:31:50   magical BMW you know fairytale land but [TS]

00:31:52   but really it did seem like in are [TS]

00:31:57   admittedly limited travels it did seem [TS]

00:32:00   like that was that was more way more the [TS]

00:32:02   norm than it is over here in the US [TS]

00:32:05   would agree with that especially on the [TS]

00:32:08   west coast especially on the west coast [TS]

00:32:10   welcoming and I like that a lot like I i [TS]

00:32:12   am part german I've always I mean you [TS]

00:32:15   know well it long ancestry ago was [TS]

00:32:17   German but like I've always worked very [TS]

00:32:19   well under German bosses I had a few it [TS]

00:32:21   with my various like terrible high [TS]

00:32:23   school jobs and everything like I've [TS]

00:32:25   always gotten along well with German [TS]

00:32:27   bosses I've always liked you know i'm [TS]

00:32:29   i'm the kind of nerd where if somebody [TS]

00:32:31   tells me to be there you know to be at a [TS]

00:32:33   party from 6 to 9 i'm there at six and [TS]

00:32:36   of course that's not what anybody means [TS]

00:32:38   acceptable government's I'm told you're [TS]

00:32:40   not supposed to do that I'm repeatedly [TS]

00:32:42   told by my wife that we're not supposed [TS]

00:32:43   to do right you're a nerd so you think [TS]

00:32:45   the same way like well it's said to be [TS]

00:32:48   there at six something I was a button [TS]

00:32:50   simon doesn't make any sense [TS]

00:32:51   exactly shoot the hell with you guys on [TS]

00:32:54   their 555 @ don't want to be looking [TS]

00:32:57   the songs are so we got at your grasp so [TS]

00:33:01   we're halfway down the stairwell your [TS]

00:33:02   car spinning and you're getting explain [TS]

00:33:04   to you why the lines were drawn in such [TS]

00:33:06   a way it exactly so yeah so anyway that [TS]

00:33:09   I mean you know the whole thing [TS]

00:33:11   normally when you when you buy a car and [TS]

00:33:13   most most branded dealers they will take [TS]

00:33:16   a little bit to show you all the [TS]

00:33:18   features to go over like here's how you [TS]

00:33:19   do the climate control and and of course [TS]

00:33:22   as we've discussed in the test with with [TS]

00:33:24   the with software interfaces taking over [TS]

00:33:26   and and with media things being able to [TS]

00:33:28   do more and more [TS]

00:33:29   this process is taking longer to explain [TS]

00:33:32   it but but you know this guy he came [TS]

00:33:34   down there and so we go down to the car [TS]

00:33:37   and the first thing they'd have me do [TS]

00:33:40   and when we when we walked into this [TS]

00:33:43   whole thing they checked our bags when [TS]

00:33:46   we went down to the car they had all of [TS]

00:33:48   our bags ready to go into the car right [TS]

00:33:50   there next to it like on the best thing [TS]

00:33:52   we'd have to ask [TS]

00:33:53   yeah and it wasn't that they brought the [TS]

00:33:55   bags nearby the car those bags were [TS]

00:33:58   brought as physically close to the car [TS]

00:34:01   as you would comfortably allow them to [TS]

00:34:03   be handled by anyone other than you and [TS]

00:34:05   again I mean that in a good way not in a [TS]

00:34:06   bad way they brought them directly to [TS]

00:34:09   the trunk and had them within six inches [TS]

00:34:11   of the trunk so we wouldn't have to lift [TS]

00:34:12   them any further if we didn't want to [TS]

00:34:14   hear and the first thing they have you [TS]

00:34:16   do is somebody is a photographer comes [TS]

00:34:19   up and takes a picture of you in front [TS]

00:34:21   of the car [TS]

00:34:22   oh I'm way to pictures when we just [TS]

00:34:24   meeting with me my wife and I and then a [TS]

00:34:29   few seconds look at a few minutes later [TS]

00:34:30   they give you not only the printouts of [TS]

00:34:33   those pictures that they had like gone [TS]

00:34:34   to the back to get they give you the [TS]

00:34:37   printouts and they give you a USB key [TS]

00:34:38   with those pictures on them [TS]

00:34:40   july didn't know that yeah I I never [TS]

00:34:41   notice on now the question roar jpg it [TS]

00:34:45   doesn't matter they had a flash such a [TS]

00:34:49   snob [TS]

00:34:50   hey don't the Germans make amazing [TS]

00:34:52   cameras [TS]

00:34:53   why did they make amazing lenses i don't [TS]

00:34:56   know if i don't know what cameras they [TS]

00:34:57   make yeah I am [TS]

00:34:59   which by the way I don't remember when [TS]

00:35:01   it was in this process that the [TS]

00:35:03   following happened but I also thought it [TS]

00:35:04   very interesting and to build on what [TS]

00:35:06   you're saying Marco about American vs [TS]

00:35:07   German ways when we got to the call [TS]

00:35:10   one of the first things that happened [TS]

00:35:13   was Michael the delivery specialist open [TS]

00:35:15   the hood and showed you know you anymore [TS]

00:35:17   and then he went and he got something [TS]

00:35:19   from some cabinet and the cabinet was [TS]

00:35:21   delightfully a simple and very clean [TS]

00:35:26   very clean lines and he gets this cable [TS]

00:35:29   out and I noticed that there's jumper [TS]

00:35:30   leads on one end and some sort of plug [TS]

00:35:33   on the other and so he takes these [TS]

00:35:35   jumper leads plug them into the jump [TS]

00:35:37   location under the hood and then under [TS]

00:35:40   the front of the car perfectly under the [TS]

00:35:42   center of the front of the car [TS]

00:35:44   there's this hidden little doorway where [TS]

00:35:46   he plugs in the other end and I presume [TS]

00:35:49   this was done so that the car was [TS]

00:35:50   running off the building's power and [TS]

00:35:53   while he was spending an hour explaining [TS]

00:35:54   to you about I Drive and this and that [TS]

00:35:56   the other thing you're not destroying [TS]

00:35:58   this brand new bat yes that's it in fact [TS]

00:36:00   he explained that he was doing it he [TS]

00:36:01   explained that is what he was doing and [TS]

00:36:02   why because he was about to launch into [TS]

00:36:05   like this half-hour demo of the stuff [TS]

00:36:06   and didn't want and didn't want me to [TS]

00:36:08   have a partially drained battery left [TS]

00:36:10   but it's so and so and so when they [TS]

00:36:13   drive these cars onto these turntables [TS]

00:36:15   they have to align them so that these [TS]

00:36:18   things line up like it's just every [TS]

00:36:20   little attention to detail at everything [TS]

00:36:22   was was a was just pay attention to and [TS]

00:36:25   was done correctly [TS]

00:36:27   yeah by the way the people who drive [TS]

00:36:28   them from the car elevator to the [TS]

00:36:31   turntable are wearing white gloves it [TS]

00:36:34   I mean I'm not Joe this thing with [TS]

00:36:36   spotless and it had the the odometer [TS]

00:36:38   read to when they first got it it so i [TS]

00:36:42   have to imagine they were not a lot of [TS]

00:36:43   overhead of driving this thing around to [TS]

00:36:45   get it where it had to go so it's [TS]

00:36:48   actually begs the question will Marco [TS]

00:36:50   where do they store these cars until [TS]

00:36:52   delivery right that's another thing so [TS]

00:36:54   we found out late the night before [TS]

00:36:55   picking it up somebody on a forum link [TS]

00:36:58   to it somehow somebody a forum had [TS]

00:37:01   gotten pictures and then they later [TS]

00:37:02   confirmed we ask the people like kind of [TS]

00:37:05   we have some kind of leading questions [TS]

00:37:06   and they confirmed everything the form [TS]

00:37:07   guy said that they store all these cars [TS]

00:37:11   in a giant warehouse under where we were [TS]

00:37:14   and in order to prevent or to reduce the [TS]

00:37:19   damage of firewood cause you had a whole [TS]

00:37:21   bunch of vehicles full of gasoline [TS]

00:37:23   first of all they are only allowed to [TS]

00:37:25   put four gallons of gas and each one [TS]

00:37:26   which is kind of annoying when you leave [TS]

00:37:28   you don't have a full tank but that's [TS]

00:37:29   apparently some kind of regulation but [TS]

00:37:31   they have to follow but they keep these [TS]

00:37:33   inner in a room a giant warehouse that [TS]

00:37:35   is dropped down to only thirteen percent [TS]

00:37:38   oxygen so that if there's a fire it [TS]

00:37:42   doesn't spread very easily and they said [TS]

00:37:44   like if you try to light a lighter won't [TS]

00:37:46   even light at that at that concentration [TS]

00:37:47   i keep thieves out other people still [TS]

00:37:49   able to breathe [TS]

00:37:50   it's like being on a high mountain I i [TS]

00:37:52   forget the exact elevation he told us [TS]

00:37:54   there's like I had some kind of [TS]

00:37:55   elevation equivalent but like you know [TS]

00:37:58   you'd survive but it can be done heading [TS]

00:38:00   right for your car and actually had like [TS]

00:38:04   a robotic forklift truck thing that goes [TS]

00:38:07   and fetches each car from its little [TS]

00:38:10   holding bay to bring it over to where it [TS]

00:38:13   needs to go when when a car's requested [TS]

00:38:15   i mean it's it's a it's a heck of a [TS]

00:38:17   system and the guy was saying they do [TS]

00:38:19   roughly a hundred 230 deliveries per day [TS]

00:38:22   and they only have out of what would you [TS]

00:38:25   say case maybe like 10 turntables yet no [TS]

00:38:28   more than 15 I think closer to 10 and [TS]

00:38:30   they're only doing roughly 12 to a time [TS]

00:38:34   so you gotta figure like this whole [TS]

00:38:37   thing is it's quite an efficient system [TS]

00:38:39   to be able to pump that out you know [TS]

00:38:42   tend to have that kind of throughput on [TS]

00:38:44   on such relatively small inventory [TS]

00:38:49   anyway so or bandwidth rather speaking [TS]

00:38:53   of bandwidth this would be reinstated [TS]

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00:40:38   aside the the turntable that we happen [TS]

00:40:41   to be on this again was another [TS]

00:40:43   delightfully german thing that I noticed [TS]

00:40:45   the turntable we happen to be on had a [TS]

00:40:47   sculpture nearby and it took me just a [TS]

00:40:50   moment to realize wait a second that [TS]

00:40:51   sculptures and exhaust manifold and so [TS]

00:40:53   while marco was getting his dissertation [TS]

00:40:56   on all the things about the m5 I went [TS]

00:40:58   wandering over 10 feet away to see the [TS]

00:41:00   sculpture little up look up close and it [TS]

00:41:03   was mounted on what appears to me to be [TS]

00:41:05   marble and i took a picture of the the [TS]

00:41:07   inscription on that marble of what the [TS]

00:41:09   sculpture was and I'm not gonna read you [TS]

00:41:11   the German because I can't but they had [TS]

00:41:13   an English translation right below and i [TS]

00:41:14   will read it to you verbatim it says BMW [TS]

00:41:17   10 cylinder performance manifold 421 [TS]

00:41:20   scale new line technology and its most [TS]

00:41:23   beautiful form and again so awesome and [TS]

00:41:27   i probably sound like I'm being [TS]

00:41:29   sarcastic but I really mean this [TS]

00:41:30   genuinely that just warms my heart so [TS]

00:41:32   much that the again just so delightfully [TS]

00:41:36   German so anyway so he's just plug the [TS]

00:41:38   car into the into the butt into the [TS]

00:41:40   building and you're getting your lecture [TS]

00:41:43   yet and it's you know it's great hehe [TS]

00:41:45   sets everything up he pairs my phone to [TS]

00:41:47   the bluetooth I mean [TS]

00:41:48   you know it goes through everything just [TS]

00:41:51   as well if not better than I've ever had [TS]

00:41:52   a dealer do it you know really really [TS]

00:41:54   good good intro to everything smoke [TS]

00:41:57   great English that magazine excellent [TS]

00:41:59   English that was never a problem and [TS]

00:42:02   even like we were never given the [TS]

00:42:03   paperwork you know that was a different [TS]

00:42:04   person and she was explaining you know [TS]

00:42:07   if you here's your insurance here's this [TS]

00:42:08   this and this [TS]

00:42:09   everything was like no deductible I mean [TS]

00:42:11   it was really just a great set up [TS]

00:42:13   everything we were very well prepared [TS]

00:42:15   for everything [TS]

00:42:16   everyone told us what was going to [TS]

00:42:17   happen what to expect like you know with [TS]

00:42:19   with the the road permits and the [TS]

00:42:22   insurance and the paperwork and the [TS]

00:42:24   drop-off you know everything we're very [TS]

00:42:26   well prepared for and they just everyone [TS]

00:42:28   just did their job right and i really i [TS]

00:42:31   wish that was just something that we [TS]

00:42:35   could assume of everybody all the time [TS]

00:42:36   and it and it's so isn't and so it was [TS]

00:42:41   really quite something [TS]

00:42:43   so anyway I finished the tour we're all [TS]

00:42:46   ready to go and and and again we and we [TS]

00:42:48   have for people with us you know we had [TS]

00:42:50   me know I've encasing his wife and that [TS]

00:42:54   was never a problem that was never week [TS]

00:42:56   they were they never made us feel like [TS]

00:42:57   we were imposing because we had four [TS]

00:43:00   people instead of two or 2 plus kid or [TS]

00:43:02   whatever they do everything they just ok [TS]

00:43:05   here's you here's for access car so the [TS]

00:43:07   executor the premium lounge and and here [TS]

00:43:10   and when we left they gave us free [TS]

00:43:12   little bottles of water here's four [TS]

00:43:13   bottles of water because it's for if you [TS]

00:43:15   like it was everything was just [TS]

00:43:16   incredibly delightful and you know [TS]

00:43:20   people often now I got a lot of [TS]

00:43:23   responses when I when I've mentioned BMW [TS]

00:43:25   in the past I always get responses to [TS]

00:43:27   the effect of why do so many apple fans [TS]

00:43:30   like BMWs and and I think there is a [TS]

00:43:35   connection there and and you know maybe [TS]

00:43:37   that's maybe that's why BMW care so much [TS]

00:43:39   about iphone and ipod integration and [TS]

00:43:42   why they've been often first to it are [TS]

00:43:44   done it best for a while I think there's [TS]

00:43:48   a lot of overlap there and I think the [TS]

00:43:49   reason why is because people who like [TS]

00:43:54   delightful things and delightful design [TS]

00:43:57   tend to really appreciate apple products [TS]

00:44:00   because apple provides [TS]

00:44:02   a lot of delight and I think BMW is is [TS]

00:44:07   that same way in so many regards and so [TS]

00:44:09   many respects and they aren't the only [TS]

00:44:11   ones to do to be that way certainly I [TS]

00:44:13   mean little delightful things little by [TS]

00:44:16   for features are a lot of what makes [TS]

00:44:18   luxury cars luxury cars and so pretty [TS]

00:44:20   much all the luxury brands that even [TS]

00:44:21   someone on larger brands do but they [TS]

00:44:25   really do BWW really does nail that they [TS]

00:44:28   really do provide so many opportunities [TS]

00:44:31   for delight in their products in their [TS]

00:44:33   service in these experiences that they [TS]

00:44:36   that they offer you like there's so much [TS]

00:44:39   of that I think that's why there's that [TS]

00:44:41   overlap is because the same people who [TS]

00:44:44   appreciate that and apple products if [TS]

00:44:46   they are ever exposed to BWW will [TS]

00:44:49   probably appreciate it there to my [TS]

00:44:52   recognize that you know they cared about [TS]

00:44:54   that they did that and and that's that [TS]

00:44:57   makes me happy for the question why do [TS]

00:45:00   you think they don't do this in America [TS]

00:45:03   is kind of delivery experience her beer [TS]

00:45:06   that you do that as far as I know they [TS]

00:45:07   don't I think well talk about for BMW [TS]

00:45:11   orgastic I mean I didn't love you [TS]

00:45:13   they do a subset of it you know like [TS]

00:45:15   they'll but you know they do the subset [TS]

00:45:17   of that every luxury brand does where [TS]

00:45:19   they'll have given away as we said [TS]

00:45:21   earlier they'll give you the bottle of [TS]

00:45:22   water or the glass of wine if you want [TS]

00:45:23   and they'll make your experience at a [TS]

00:45:25   dealership very helpful and very nice [TS]

00:45:27   and and very comfortable but this whole [TS]

00:45:30   setup of having like the car and [TS]

00:45:32   turntable and everything I don't know I [TS]

00:45:35   don't act is you just because that would [TS]

00:45:37   put a lot of bourbon and a lot of costs [TS]

00:45:39   on the individual dealers where I mad [TS]

00:45:42   when I was thinking of like it just one [TS]

00:45:44   place somewhere in the United States so [TS]

00:45:45   that you know you would have to fly [TS]

00:45:46   overseas for you know you like someone [TS]

00:45:48   like somewhere near where they sell a [TS]

00:45:49   lot of their cars or maybe it's like to [TS]

00:45:51   drive to another state and do it but if [TS]

00:45:52   you want to go to the big BMW back and [TS]

00:45:55   then you can get that experience you [TS]

00:45:56   know I don't they don't do this in [TS]

00:45:59   Spartans is it Spartanburg's your [TS]

00:46:01   ensberg smart hands berg don't matter is [TS]

00:46:03   an astronaut but anyway I don't think [TS]

00:46:04   they do this at Spartanburg do they I [TS]

00:46:06   don't think so [TS]

00:46:07   I i I'm not sure if they do this or not [TS]

00:46:10   anywhere in the u.s I've still never [TS]

00:46:11   heard about it if they have [TS]

00:46:12   but i think the place to do it would [TS]

00:46:15   probably be like New Jersey thick like [TS]

00:46:18   that's New Jersey has lots of space lots [TS]

00:46:20   of car people and it's close to a lot of [TS]

00:46:22   people on the East Coast maybe probably [TS]

00:46:23   have one on the west coast to it they [TS]

00:46:25   did that but yeah I've never heard is [TS]

00:46:26   isn't it [TS]

00:46:27   yeah but yeah I've never heard of of [TS]

00:46:31   that being done here and that's a good [TS]

00:46:32   question i don't know why but the only [TS]

00:46:35   thing I can say is I from what I recall [TS]

00:46:36   a couple years ago [TS]

00:46:38   I'm want to say was the zr1 maybe the [TS]

00:46:40   new zr1 i think that there was some [TS]

00:46:43   program that Chevy briefly did where you [TS]

00:46:45   could actually go in to go to Kentucky [TS]

00:46:47   and build the matter you would help [TS]

00:46:49   assemble the end right right that's a [TS]

00:46:51   different kind of experience for a [TS]

00:46:52   different kind of customer it's the same [TS]

00:46:53   thing like it what do you want you want [TS]

00:46:55   to have this experience was like well if [TS]

00:46:57   you're into if you're a gearhead and you [TS]

00:46:59   want to it's like wow I got to help [TS]

00:47:00   build you know the engine to my own car [TS]

00:47:02   I'm sure they let you do whatever I [TS]

00:47:04   think it's nearly impossible to screw up [TS]

00:47:06   right what do you like Titan one nut or [TS]

00:47:07   something anybody about it that you do [TS]

00:47:09   you know the parts that are hard to [TS]

00:47:10   screw up but you can participate in the [TS]

00:47:12   process you push a button anyway so [TS]

00:47:16   after picking up the car we did you eat [TS]

00:47:19   you get to do like this little victory [TS]

00:47:20   lap around the entire platform of all [TS]

00:47:23   the turntables and where all the cars [TS]

00:47:24   are and to be clear you know with Marco [TS]

00:47:27   picked up this car on the second floor [TS]

00:47:29   of a three-story building it ain't so [TS]

00:47:31   you know next thing you know that I see [TS]

00:47:34   the code well you signed something on an [TS]

00:47:36   ipad i didn't see specifically what [TS]

00:47:39   and that was the final thing I saw you [TS]

00:47:40   sign yeah and then he hands you the keys [TS]

00:47:44   for like you know here this is it we're [TS]

00:47:46   done have fun and you're on the second [TS]

00:47:49   story in your inside in the second story [TS]

00:47:51   of a of a three-story building right and [TS]

00:47:54   and of course I'm feeling very [TS]

00:47:55   self-conscious that just started up a v8 [TS]

00:47:57   indoors [TS]

00:47:59   i'm thinking like a carbon monoxide yet [TS]

00:48:01   but I'm sure that everything's pretty [TS]

00:48:03   big building with marisa different it is [TS]

00:48:07   also a lot of cars being started up and [TS]

00:48:09   it was I looking at these pictures i'm [TS]

00:48:12   looking like that the video people [TS]

00:48:13   getting delivery like the big white [TS]

00:48:15   floor you know you could probably leave [TS]

00:48:17   some really neat tire tracks along just [TS]

00:48:20   the people out to black stripes as you [TS]

00:48:22   leave the that's what I told him he [TS]

00:48:24   should have done but I will [TS]

00:48:25   there's no prob probably frowned upon . [TS]

00:48:27   you not only not only was I little [TS]

00:48:29   scared to be frowned upon but a this was [TS]

00:48:33   a dct so I was little I was a little [TS]

00:48:36   vague as to whether you're neutral or [TS]

00:48:38   not like and now that I know what I I'd [TS]

00:48:39   be able to do it comfortably but at the [TS]

00:48:41   time i was i was not comforting to know [TS]

00:48:42   like if I floor it for a second am I [TS]

00:48:44   gonna actually go forward right now or [TS]

00:48:46   not any of the other thing is it's a [TS]

00:48:49   very very it's a relatively tight space [TS]

00:48:52   you know when you're walking it's very [TS]

00:48:54   spacious when you're driving a $YEAR 5 [TS]

00:48:56   series because a large vehicle you don't [TS]

00:49:00   feel like you have a ton of space to get [TS]

00:49:03   to go around like you know there's [TS]

00:49:05   there's a wall there that overlooks of [TS]

00:49:07   show room full of people up [TS]

00:49:09   that's the United wasn't going to take [TS]

00:49:11   any risks there anyway so you can lean [TS]

00:49:14   on the horn at least at representing [TS]

00:49:15   American some of noxious play haha go [TS]

00:49:19   again [TS]

00:49:20   I'm serious i'm sure people do the head [TS]

00:49:21   you do all of that custom horn that uh [TS]

00:49:24   plays the pics added theme when you hit [TS]

00:49:27   somebody please not corruption now [TS]

00:49:29   Wow but anyway so we we do a victory lap [TS]

00:49:32   we head out and then we just go [TS]

00:49:35   immediately park and go back in because [TS]

00:49:36   we were doing next was the factory tour [TS]

00:49:39   and this this is pretty cool [TS]

00:49:43   you can take any pictures on the factory [TS]

00:49:45   tour they're very serious about that so [TS]

00:49:47   I don't have any pictures of it but they [TS]

00:49:49   actually walk you through the factory [TS]

00:49:51   that's across the street that produces [TS]

00:49:53   something like I think they said about [TS]

00:49:55   903 series cars a day and I saw some x5 [TS]

00:50:00   shells as well if i'm not mistaken you [TS]

00:50:02   are mistaken as are making it made in [TS]

00:50:04   the US [TS]

00:50:05   see that's what I thought but there were [TS]

00:50:06   some sort of SUV I thought wasn't or [TS]

00:50:08   maybe i'm thinking of the tour yet every [TS]

00:50:09   just they were just the touring / wagon [TS]

00:50:11   models of the 3c right i was just [TS]

00:50:13   kidding i was testing you and you passed [TS]

00:50:15   that's good but anyway just like when [TS]

00:50:17   you when you failed to spot the the new [TS]

00:50:20   4-series in the museum the new 4-series [TS]

00:50:23   design mockup yes yes you're right [TS]

00:50:26   anyway did so we did the factory tour [TS]

00:50:30   and and it's it's really something if [TS]

00:50:32   you know if any listeners have the [TS]

00:50:33   opportunity to go to the music factory [TS]

00:50:35   tour I I would have [TS]

00:50:36   recommend it it's really really great it [TS]

00:50:39   was one of the highlights of the trip [TS]

00:50:40   for sure and just society they tell you [TS]

00:50:43   why they don't let you take pictures [TS]

00:50:45   no it's probably for some kind of like [TS]

00:50:47   legal trade secrets things similar to [TS]

00:50:49   how like you know one of the reasons why [TS]

00:50:51   Apple did the iOS developer n da back in [TS]

00:50:54   the early days was because they were [TS]

00:50:55   some kind of technicality where like if [TS]

00:50:57   you if if something is unpublished [TS]

00:51:00   officially then it afford you some like [TS]

00:51:04   a little bit of extra time on the patent [TS]

00:51:06   or something like that or or filing for [TS]

00:51:08   a patent and so there's some [TS]

00:51:09   technicality we're like even though [TS]

00:51:11   everyone was breaking the NDA constantly [TS]

00:51:13   it was as long as it was officially [TS]

00:51:15   under NDA then you know Apple had some [TS]

00:51:18   legal benefit it was it's probably the [TS]

00:51:20   same thing here we're like obviously [TS]

00:51:22   you're not going to see anything that's [TS]

00:51:24   gonna be like a massive trade secret or [TS]

00:51:26   anything and they're going to show [TS]

00:51:27   everyone the street that but by by [TS]

00:51:31   saying this is secret and not letting [TS]

00:51:34   you take pictures and everything there [TS]

00:51:36   is probably some kind of legal advantage [TS]

00:51:39   they get by that but i was asking [TS]

00:51:41   because I'm looking at this this video I [TS]

00:51:43   just paste in a you know european [TS]

00:51:45   delivery or whatever and they do the [TS]

00:51:48   factory tour too and they're taking [TS]

00:51:49   video so one of these jokers get to do [TS]

00:51:51   video you can you take pictures i just [TS]

00:51:53   passed you're talking about the autoblog [TS]

00:51:55   yeah thing [TS]

00:51:56   oh yeah let me see how I'm kind of busy [TS]

00:51:59   i would assume i'll assume attack was [TS]

00:52:01   there its press and so press get [TS]

00:52:04   affordances that we don't get it was [TS]

00:52:05   probably a special deal but that's a [TS]

00:52:07   good question like why why is that ok [TS]

00:52:09   oh well I don't know anyway it was [TS]

00:52:12   awesome at as you can see this video [TS]

00:52:14   thanks for ruining it [TS]

00:52:15   as you can see it's video the factory it [TS]

00:52:19   not only is there a lot going on there [TS]

00:52:21   it's pretty cool to see like all the [TS]

00:52:22   crazy robots up up close and everything [TS]

00:52:25   but it was impeccably clean oh I would [TS]

00:52:29   have been a gourmet meal off the floor [TS]

00:52:31   that factory and I say that only mildly [TS]

00:52:33   sarcastically like yeah unbelievable it [TS]

00:52:36   I the the floors in that factory are [TS]

00:52:39   cleaner than the floors in my house by [TS]

00:52:41   probably by a lot i mean.they it would [TS]

00:52:46   like there wasn't even like like metal [TS]

00:52:48   shavings or [TS]

00:52:50   fine layer of dust from all this [TS]

00:52:51   machining nothing like it was impeccably [TS]

00:52:55   clean and and just everything about it [TS]

00:52:57   was as stereotypically German like [TS]

00:53:00   incredibly efficient clever reliable and [TS]

00:53:04   and they you know these explanations [TS]

00:53:06   were fantastic of everything and and we [TS]

00:53:08   were just like walking on like you know [TS]

00:53:11   one catwalk overlooking everything we [TS]

00:53:14   will actually like any there was a bit [TS]

00:53:16   of that we were actually walking like [TS]

00:53:17   right through the factory floor and [TS]

00:53:19   walking you know 10 feet away from the [TS]

00:53:21   people who are building engines and [TS]

00:53:23   everything I mean it was it was pretty [TS]

00:53:24   cool and we really saw a lot of great [TS]

00:53:27   stuff there and it was it was extremely [TS]

00:53:29   worthwhile highly recommended [TS]

00:53:31   yeah I couldn't agree more in a couple [TS]

00:53:32   of highlights that I thought [TS]

00:53:34   firstly the paint process which I guess [TS]

00:53:37   this is covered in what show was it that [TS]

00:53:40   you said you had watched you and tiff [TS]

00:53:41   out on the Iron ya how it's made and I [TS]

00:53:44   guess a lot of this is cut been covered [TS]

00:53:46   in TV shows and documentaries and [TS]

00:53:47   whatnot like how it's made [TS]

00:53:49   but I thought it was incredible the way [TS]

00:53:51   the painting process worked and so at [TS]

00:53:53   one point were brought into a room where [TS]

00:53:55   we see a hood it looked to me to be a [TS]

00:53:56   3-series hood but it was a hold of some [TS]

00:53:58   say wasn't f30 3-series ok [TS]

00:54:00   or was it bonnet if you're British is [TS]

00:54:02   that right anyway so we see this hood [TS]

00:54:04   and it's shows like the seven different [TS]

00:54:06   seven ish different stages of the [TS]

00:54:08   painting process and so it shows you [TS]

00:54:10   know the raw metal and then it's getting [TS]

00:54:12   a getting that gets a base coat and this [TS]

00:54:14   and that and the other thing than all [TS]

00:54:15   the way through to the clear coat and [TS]

00:54:17   another great example of people caring [TS]

00:54:20   about their jobs like Marcos been been [TS]

00:54:21   saying all along is that the woman who [TS]

00:54:24   was the tour guide [TS]

00:54:26   somebody asked her not me i don't [TS]

00:54:27   remember how they phrase the question [TS]

00:54:28   but basically hey for what is it Arctic [TS]

00:54:31   I was grows along [TS]

00:54:32   Thank You frozen for the frozen that [TS]

00:54:34   coat jobs the matte colors [TS]

00:54:36   what do you do is it not clear coated or [TS]

00:54:39   is it did you just skip the clearcoat [TS]

00:54:41   step what happens in immediately without [TS]

00:54:44   a hesitation she said no no it's just a [TS]

00:54:46   different clearcoat process what does it [TS]

00:54:48   have silicon or something absolutely [TS]

00:54:49   Angeles and and so it was just really [TS]

00:54:52   rewarding to have a tour guide that [TS]

00:54:54   clearly knew what the crap she was [TS]

00:54:56   talking about writing was able to answer [TS]

00:54:58   without having to be like Oh arm [TS]

00:55:00   hmm let me think i've been told this [TS]

00:55:03   once during my training program for and [TS]

00:55:06   I we were never there was no one who [TS]

00:55:08   ever said oh we can't tell you that [TS]

00:55:11   like that's a secret like every question [TS]

00:55:13   somebody asked they answered and maybe [TS]

00:55:16   i'm sure there were questions we could [TS]

00:55:18   have come up with they wouldn't answer [TS]

00:55:19   but every like there was nothing that [TS]

00:55:22   was like oh we can only tell you what's [TS]

00:55:24   been approved for the store like what is [TS]

00:55:26   the stereo mic engine noises that come [TS]

00:55:29   up we'll talk about that well the [TS]

00:55:30   5-series wasn't made in this plant this [TS]

00:55:32   is a 3-series plant alright and the [TS]

00:55:35   although the engine was the v8 is made [TS]

00:55:37   in this plan so the other bit about the [TS]

00:55:40   paint that i thought was incredible and [TS]

00:55:42   again I guess this was old news to [TS]

00:55:43   everyone but me but apparently and I'll [TS]

00:55:45   get this backwards but the paint is [TS]

00:55:47   positively charged in the chassis is [TS]

00:55:49   negatively charged or perhaps vice versa [TS]

00:55:51   so that when the paint is atomized and [TS]

00:55:54   sprayed it's actually attracted to the [TS]

00:55:57   body of the car which I just thought was [TS]

00:55:59   so incredibly it like minimizes [TS]

00:56:01   overspray and paint waste and everything [TS]

00:56:03   right and then they had this likes this [TS]

00:56:05   truth underneath the painting process [TS]

00:56:07   that had running water beneath and [TS]

00:56:09   apparently they can save like [TS]

00:56:10   ninety-nine percent of the paint in that [TS]

00:56:13   water that that's over spray it was [TS]

00:56:14   really it was really ridiculous and then [TS]

00:56:16   the other thing I thought was really [TS]

00:56:17   incredible but the about the factory [TS]

00:56:19   tour was we were able like Marco said a [TS]

00:56:21   minute ago we were able to go see the [TS]

00:56:23   engine building area engine room [TS]

00:56:26   whatever you called it which i guess is [TS]

00:56:28   not normal because I talked to a friend [TS]

00:56:29   of mine who had just done it a few [TS]

00:56:31   months ago and he said he didn't see [TS]

00:56:32   that well anyway we got to go through [TS]

00:56:35   and see some of these engines getting [TS]

00:56:36   built and to be honest I mean it's [TS]

00:56:38   exactly what you would expect about how [TS]

00:56:40   an engine gets built but just seeing it [TS]

00:56:42   live was extremely cool and I just [TS]

00:56:45   geeked out on every moment of it I [TS]

00:56:47   thought it was awesome it was [TS]

00:56:49   interesting too late to hear so like [TS]

00:56:50   takes that as part of the part of the [TS]

00:56:52   tour they they told us what ratios they [TS]

00:56:55   make these things and they were saying [TS]

00:56:56   like everyday they make about a thousand [TS]

00:56:59   of the new and 20 engines are the turbo [TS]

00:57:01   four-cylinder the the 22 liter [TS]

00:57:04   four-cylinder that are going into all of [TS]

00:57:05   the x 28 models now and and they make it [TS]

00:57:10   basically made like 1200 of those a day [TS]

00:57:12   and then they don't they don't make the [TS]

00:57:15   six cylinders in this plant but they [TS]

00:57:16   made them in the four cylinders the [TS]

00:57:18   eight and the giant 12 for the the 760 [TS]

00:57:23   and the rolls-royce's hit they said they [TS]

00:57:27   make like 1200 of the of the [TS]

00:57:29   four-cylinder i forgot i think it was [TS]

00:57:31   like 200 or so of the eights and then [TS]

00:57:35   like 30 of the to a house that's gonna [TS]

00:57:39   give you some idea of why the the giant [TS]

00:57:42   v12 engines cost so much [TS]

00:57:44   it's because they're making like 30 of [TS]

00:57:46   them a day in this giant Factory [TS]

00:57:50   anyway that was awesome highly [TS]

00:57:52   recommended and we're running a little [TS]

00:57:54   long so I want to move on to the driving [TS]

00:57:56   part [TS]

00:57:57   so we leave here and the first thing we [TS]

00:57:59   do is drive through the apps and go to [TS]

00:58:01   our next destination which was lucerne [TS]

00:58:04   switzerland and so we get to drive the [TS]

00:58:07   autobahn the first time you just drive [TS]

00:58:09   through the Alps a little bit and oh my [TS]

00:58:13   god this car is ridiculous I mean I i [TS]

00:58:17   cannot say it enough so ridiculously app [TS]

00:58:21   with this car and even just having it [TS]

00:58:25   for the few days i had it so far [TS]

00:58:28   oh my god so first of all the dct is [TS]

00:58:33   exactly as I as I thought it was it was [TS]

00:58:35   exactly as I remembered it from that [TS]

00:58:37   track day it was [TS]

00:58:39   it's just awesome it compared to a [TS]

00:58:42   six-speed this is the first and they [TS]

00:58:45   were like North mystic and I'm very very [TS]

00:58:49   happy I made the choice to go with it I [TS]

00:58:51   don't regret not having a stick [TS]

00:58:52   even now coming back to my stick cars [TS]

00:58:54   for the next month and a half or two I I [TS]

00:58:58   don't regret making that choice at all [TS]

00:58:59   i'm very very happy with that choice now [TS]

00:59:01   to that end so at this point in our [TS]

00:59:04   story i have not driven the m5 yet i'm [TS]

00:59:07   only a passenger and I i firstly I one [TS]

00:59:11   note is that I wouldn't i don't think i [TS]

00:59:12   will ever forget when we cleared munich [TS]

00:59:15   and all of a sudden the speed [TS]

00:59:17   restrictions one away and you unwound [TS]

00:59:19   that car and next thing you know we're [TS]

00:59:21   doing 110 120 easy Kelly [TS]

00:59:24   legally and and and i cannot say enough [TS]

00:59:27   good things about the German drivers [TS]

00:59:29   because in America as we complained and [TS]

00:59:31   moaned in in the episode alternate which [TS]

00:59:33   was like 46 or something like that it [TS]

00:59:35   was six American drivers especially [TS]

00:59:38   Virginia anyway they tend to think that [TS]

00:59:40   the left lane is a perfectly permissible [TS]

00:59:42   travel lane and in Germany that is not [TS]

00:59:45   the case people stayed right or state to [TS]

00:59:48   the middle and only got left if they had [TS]

00:59:49   to and if he and i was watching from the [TS]

00:59:52   backseat if marco was approaching [TS]

00:59:54   quickly someone in front of him [TS]

00:59:55   eighty to ninety percent of the time [TS]

00:59:57   that person got the crap out of the way [TS]

00:59:59   is quickly [TS]

00:59:59   is quickly [TS]

01:00:00   possible and it was really unbelievable [TS]

01:00:01   to watch but the other thing i want to [TS]

01:00:04   note is that about the dct again at this [TS]

01:00:07   point I have not yet driven it but from [TS]

01:00:09   the backseat [TS]

01:00:10   it was surprisingly good and I was in [TS]

01:00:13   I've talked about this before my friend [TS]

01:00:15   brian's r32 volkswagen r32 which had one [TS]

01:00:18   of the earliest implementations of a [TS]

01:00:20   dual-clutch gearbox and it was wonderful [TS]

01:00:24   when you are driving hard but atrocious [TS]

01:00:26   when you were just driving and it took [TS]

01:00:29   Marco maybe a day to get to the point [TS]

01:00:32   that he knew he understood the car well [TS]

01:00:35   enough that you're driving around town [TS]

01:00:36   it was like the world's best standard [TS]

01:00:39   transmission driver and when you got on [TS]

01:00:41   the gas [TS]

01:00:42   it was the world's fastest standard [TS]

01:00:44   transmission driver in from the back [TS]

01:00:45   seat anyway it was really really nice [TS]

01:00:49   and i remembers their full auto mode [TS]

01:00:50   though as well [TS]

01:00:51   yes mhm so i can use that around town as [TS]

01:00:54   it just drive like you know and an [TS]

01:00:57   automatic the only the only learning [TS]

01:00:58   curve that I had that I had to do well [TS]

01:01:00   there's to learn cause obviously there [TS]

01:01:01   there's the break responsiveness [TS]

01:01:02   learning curve which I I think whenever [TS]

01:01:04   anybody gets into any different car it [TS]

01:01:07   takes a moment you know a few minutes at [TS]

01:01:09   least two to become smooth on the brakes [TS]

01:01:11   especially when you have ridiculously [TS]

01:01:13   large breaks like a like a high-end [TS]

01:01:15   sports car where they're very powerful [TS]

01:01:18   but the only learning curve ahead with [TS]

01:01:21   the dct was when you go from zero to [TS]

01:01:23   going you know in a regular standard [TS]

01:01:26   transmission car you can kind of ease [TS]

01:01:29   off the clutch and gradually make you [TS]

01:01:31   know gradually get into it so that you [TS]

01:01:33   take off fairly smoothly and when you're [TS]

01:01:35   learning how to drive stick [TS]

01:01:37   learning how to do that smoothly is not [TS]

01:01:39   easy and and with the dct you know the [TS]

01:01:43   dct is normally optimized for quick gear [TS]

01:01:46   changes and so you're going from 0 to [TS]

01:01:48   first if you want to quickly do that [TS]

01:01:50   it's not going to be smooth it's going [TS]

01:01:51   to be rich connect jolt you forward to [TS]

01:01:54   starting second that's an option [TS]

01:01:56   actually but that might have had the [TS]

01:01:58   same issue anyways it's over 500 [TS]

01:02:00   horsepower is that is here is it's not [TS]

01:02:02   graceful what's going on it but it has [TS]

01:02:05   like this some kind of special detection [TS]

01:02:07   we like it if it detects that you're [TS]

01:02:09   trying to be gentle on the gas pedal [TS]

01:02:10   going from 0 to first [TS]

01:02:12   it will engage it slowly so it does it [TS]

01:02:17   like sense that that's good to like if [TS]

01:02:19   you're parallel parking or something you [TS]

01:02:21   can creep you know as you as you need to [TS]

01:02:23   win when you're doing small maneuvers [TS]

01:02:25   like that so it but so it took me to be [TS]

01:02:28   a solid day and a half or two days to [TS]

01:02:30   learn how to do that reliably it's just [TS]

01:02:32   like a feel thing you know but anyway [TS]

01:02:34   yeah like once you learn to do that it [TS]

01:02:36   it really is an incredibly smooth ride [TS]

01:02:39   and in fact my wife commented on that a [TS]

01:02:41   lot too because she is often in the car [TS]

01:02:43   with me driving stick and I'm not that [TS]

01:02:46   great at it that I can be perfectly [TS]

01:02:47   smooth all the time and and so so she [TS]

01:02:52   even commented how much smoother by far [TS]

01:02:54   the dct was compared to the way I [TS]

01:02:57   usually drive a stick and I was just so [TS]

01:03:00   blown away by how fast an awesome it was [TS]

01:03:02   I didn't I didn't care about the loss of [TS]

01:03:04   roughness it's anyway so driving this [TS]

01:03:08   thing you know as cases at the autobahn [TS]

01:03:09   is fantastic 11 also a little little [TS]

01:03:11   note that i thought was just one of [TS]

01:03:13   those little delightful things that's [TS]

01:03:15   just commonly good this speedometer in [TS]

01:03:18   in this new car does not have because [TS]

01:03:20   the us-spec are normally the aspect cars [TS]

01:03:22   will have both km/h and miles per hour [TS]

01:03:25   markings on them [TS]

01:03:26   this one didn't this one only had miles [TS]

01:03:29   per hour because it tests for the US and [TS]

01:03:31   I guess the new one just don't do both [TS]

01:03:32   anymore so I thought oh crap all the [TS]

01:03:36   speed limit signs are in km/h i'm going [TS]

01:03:38   to have to memorize what all of these [TS]

01:03:40   translate two miles per hour to be to be [TS]

01:03:42   able to drive legally and place the dual [TS]

01:03:44   speed limits which is most places and so [TS]

01:03:49   i think i think i mentioned in the in [TS]

01:03:51   the extras show that one of the features [TS]

01:03:55   of this car is a speed limit in feature [TS]

01:03:57   that you actually use a camera mounted [TS]

01:03:59   on the rear view mirror it skin it looks [TS]

01:04:02   forward on the road and finds speed [TS]

01:04:05   limit signs it detects them just by [TS]

01:04:07   image recognition and it tells you what [TS]

01:04:10   the current speed limit is and then it [TS]

01:04:13   matches up that data sometimes it will [TS]

01:04:15   it will have it in the navigation [TS]

01:04:16   systems little know what the speed limit [TS]

01:04:18   isn't certain roads it'll match it up [TS]

01:04:19   with navigation system if it doesn't [TS]

01:04:20   have a sign of hasn't seen the sign in [TS]

01:04:22   awhile [TS]

01:04:23   so anyway I this feature as we're [TS]

01:04:28   driving you know that but here I am with [TS]

01:04:31   a miles per hour meter seeing km/h signs [TS]

01:04:34   it recognized the km/h signs and [TS]

01:04:38   converted it for me two miles per hour [TS]

01:04:41   rounded to the nearest five and so all [TS]

01:04:46   the time i was driving [TS]

01:04:47   whenever I saw speed limit sign about [TS]

01:04:50   two seconds later it would pop up on the [TS]

01:04:52   heads-up display and the speedometer [TS]

01:04:53   little icon showing me what the current [TS]

01:04:56   speed limit was in miles per hour [TS]

01:04:58   that is awesome you got you clearly [TS]

01:05:03   agree we had worked really well and well [TS]

01:05:06   from what little i could tell from the [TS]

01:05:07   backseat and the other thing I thought [TS]

01:05:09   was really awesome is that they gave you [TS]

01:05:11   and I mean I guess this isn't surprising [TS]

01:05:12   but they gave you the maps for Europe [TS]

01:05:14   because like you said this is a [TS]

01:05:15   us-backed car doesn't usually come with [TS]

01:05:17   European maps and the nav was perfectly [TS]

01:05:20   from my perspective was perfectly easy [TS]

01:05:22   to use granted every every Road in [TS]

01:05:24   German is about 350 characters long for [TS]

01:05:27   every road name is significant [TS]

01:05:28   characters long but space to our [TS]

01:05:29   extensive their spaces are very [TS]

01:05:31   expensive and so two hours later when we [TS]

01:05:33   finally wore through the eye dr and [TS]

01:05:36   basically wore it down to a little [TS]

01:05:38   numbing because we've been spinning it [TS]

01:05:40   back and forth constantly entering all [TS]

01:05:41   these 3 50 letters it actually worked [TS]

01:05:44   really flawlessly and I thought that was [TS]

01:05:45   awesome as well [TS]

01:05:46   yeah and and reading speed limit thing [TS]

01:05:49   like it there was never a time where [TS]

01:05:51   things like I think twice it gets the [TS]

01:05:54   wrong number or or interpret something [TS]

01:05:56   that what that was supposed to interpret [TS]

01:05:57   but like it's I mean it's even smart [TS]

01:05:59   enough that a lot of the a lot of the [TS]

01:06:01   roads there we'll have we'll have us a [TS]

01:06:04   different speed limit if it's raining [TS]

01:06:05   and and it's you know it's marked with a [TS]

01:06:08   different sign will have like a speed [TS]

01:06:09   limit sign and below a little rainy car [TS]

01:06:12   sign it recognizes that and it checks in [TS]

01:06:15   with the windshield wiper system and if [TS]

01:06:17   the windshield wipers are on it will [TS]

01:06:19   tell you that speed limit [TS]

01:06:20   otherwise it'll keep the big speed limit [TS]

01:06:23   i mean it's it's really crazy good [TS]

01:06:26   so unexpectedly good anyway so it was [TS]

01:06:31   really quite easy driving in foreign [TS]

01:06:33   countries having both [TS]

01:06:36   navigation system and the speed limit [TS]

01:06:38   recognize her things so that there's [TS]

01:06:41   rarely any doubt as to you know whether [TS]

01:06:43   what I was doing was legal and what when [TS]

01:06:45   where the heck we were going so that was [TS]

01:06:47   that was quite nice technology certainly [TS]

01:06:50   has made this kind of thing probably [TS]

01:06:51   weighed easier LOL possibly less [TS]

01:06:53   adventurous but but certainly way easier [TS]

01:06:56   than it probably wasn't in the recent [TS]

01:06:57   past [TS]

01:06:58   well into that and one of us asked you [TS]

01:07:00   or maybe you just shared it up of your [TS]

01:07:02   own accord [TS]

01:07:03   you know hey if this was 5 10 years ago [TS]

01:07:05   navigation wasn't a normal thing would [TS]

01:07:07   you have done the european delivery and [TS]

01:07:10   and I mean that the time you had said [TS]

01:07:11   yeah probably not [TS]

01:07:13   yeah I probably wouldn't have you know [TS]

01:07:14   because I would have been too [TS]

01:07:15   intimidated to the drive-in unknown [TS]

01:07:18   foreign countries especially where I [TS]

01:07:20   have you know extremely limited to no [TS]

01:07:23   communication abilities because it's not [TS]

01:07:26   my home country and you know if I if I [TS]

01:07:28   don't have a cell phone either [TS]

01:07:29   forget about it but anyway so it was [TS]

01:07:33   just a ridiculously awesome drive it's a [TS]

01:07:36   ridiculously awesome car the autobahn is [TS]

01:07:38   is so great and so much fun and you know [TS]

01:07:41   to some extent it's just a highway you [TS]

01:07:44   know and and a highway in one country [TS]

01:07:46   and highway in another country they're [TS]

01:07:48   in there they're mostly the same but I [TS]

01:07:51   the experience of of seeing both both [TS]

01:07:55   the quality of the roads and the quality [TS]

01:07:58   of the drivers real and people in [TS]

01:08:02   Germany think that there's a bunch of [TS]

01:08:03   idiots on the road but trust me you you [TS]

01:08:05   don't know that's trusting didn't know [TS]

01:08:07   you don't [TS]

01:08:09   so I mean the funny thing is i did not [TS]

01:08:12   see not one instance of an idiot driver [TS]

01:08:15   i saw some instances of people getting [TS]

01:08:17   the left lane when I didn't think it was [TS]

01:08:19   really necessary but it wasn't like [TS]

01:08:21   people getting in the left lane and [TS]

01:08:23   slowing down to 20 miles an hour it was [TS]

01:08:26   people getting the left lane trying to [TS]

01:08:27   pass when I wish they hadn't gotten in [TS]

01:08:29   front of you you know was nothing it was [TS]

01:08:31   nothing egregious and nothing terribly [TS]

01:08:33   bad and I didn't see not one instance of [TS]

01:08:35   anything that could even be mildly [TS]

01:08:37   construed as road annoyance let alone [TS]

01:08:39   let alone road rage [TS]

01:08:41   yeah i don't think i saw this i mean if [TS]

01:08:43   I caused any I didn't notice [TS]

01:08:45   no i did not even just with you I mean [TS]

01:08:47   just in general a lot of times when I'm [TS]

01:08:48   driving on [TS]

01:08:49   on a long trip like say to and from your [TS]

01:08:51   guys's house you know you'll see people [TS]

01:08:53   getting pissed off at each other and [TS]

01:08:54   tailgating and waving their arms and so [TS]

01:08:56   on and so forth and I saw none of that [TS]

01:08:58   yeah it was the drivers were [TS]

01:09:00   unbelievable yeah it was fantastic and [TS]

01:09:03   and the roads are all at least the ones [TS]

01:09:04   we drove on were just in fantastic shape [TS]

01:09:07   and so that and that's why you know we [TS]

01:09:09   we pose the question to ourselves and [TS]

01:09:12   then later Twitter you know why can't [TS]

01:09:14   the u.s. do this why can't the US have [TS]

01:09:17   higher or no speed limits on many of its [TS]

01:09:21   highways and we got a lot of good [TS]

01:09:23   answers and I think part of the answer [TS]

01:09:24   is just you know our roads our are often [TS]

01:09:27   not in this good of shape I'm various [TS]

01:09:30   you know vegetarian priority reasons . [TS]

01:09:33   that's why are guys so cheap right let's [TS]

01:09:35   get all those taxes on gasoline and go [TS]

01:09:37   to pay for make the roads nice to drive [TS]

01:09:39   LOL but we do have quite a bit of that [TS]

01:09:42   and built into our prices but obviously [TS]

01:09:43   not as much as they do I don't know that [TS]

01:09:46   actually but I don't think it's as much [TS]

01:09:48   as they do but so you know part of its [TS]

01:09:51   just you know the roads they're the ones [TS]

01:09:53   we were on where we're very well paved [TS]

01:09:54   they weren't full of massive potholes or [TS]

01:09:57   rough areas you know that they were [TS]

01:09:59   really good shape and and part of its [TS]

01:10:02   also just that the Dave it's always been [TS]

01:10:05   this way for them or at least it's been [TS]

01:10:07   this way for long enough with them so [TS]

01:10:09   they're used to it you know I feel like [TS]

01:10:11   if you if you took a section of the US [TS]

01:10:14   and took some section of like you know I [TS]

01:10:17   80 going through Pennsylvania which is [TS]

01:10:20   basically the MPS road in the universe [TS]

01:10:22   until it gets to ohio when it gets even [TS]

01:10:24   emptier yeah someone's I have some [TS]

01:10:27   experience with take you know the [TS]

01:10:30   massive segments of i-80 where there is [TS]

01:10:32   very little traffic and just very long [TS]

01:10:36   stretches of mostly nothingness in a [TS]

01:10:38   straight line you can easily safely go [TS]

01:10:43   90 miles an hour on those easily and you [TS]

01:10:46   can probably go faster than that in many [TS]

01:10:47   many sections without really any major [TS]

01:10:51   safety changes and so obviously that [TS]

01:10:55   there are places in the US where we [TS]

01:10:57   could do that and in Germany it's not [TS]

01:10:59   that there's it's not that the highways [TS]

01:11:00   never have speed limits [TS]

01:11:02   just you know large sections of them [TS]

01:11:04   will have no splits somebody on Twitter [TS]

01:11:06   told me that roughly seventy percent of [TS]

01:11:08   them have speed limits and so I'm not [TS]

01:11:11   really sure how accurate that is you [TS]

01:11:12   know one person told me that but that [TS]

01:11:16   certainly seem to match up to what we [TS]

01:11:17   saw [TS]

01:11:19   what's interesting though is that their [TS]

01:11:21   speed limit most the most common people [TS]

01:11:24   but I saw there when it was limited was [TS]

01:11:28   130 km/h which is roughly 85 miles an [TS]

01:11:31   hour [TS]

01:11:32   I hope that's right that's what the [TS]

01:11:33   speed limit in 41 ok so i told me 50 s [TS]

01:11:40   it round up to the nearest fire will [TS]

01:11:42   also consider that I don't know about [TS]

01:11:43   your BMW is all three of them at this [TS]

01:11:46   particular moment but I'm I one BMW my [TS]

01:11:48   pedestrian 1 B&W all kidding aside my [TS]

01:11:51   speedometer seems to roll or seems to [TS]

01:11:53   run about 45 miles an hour fast so 80 [TS]

01:11:57   miles an hour in my car as 80 miles an [TS]

01:12:00   hour indicated is act is about seventy [TS]

01:12:02   six ish actual that's good i mean that's [TS]

01:12:05   that's that's the way that's the direct [TS]

01:12:07   if it's going to be an error you want to [TS]

01:12:08   be in that direction [TS]

01:12:09   I wonder if the the snow tires affected [TS]

01:12:11   your speedo accuracy [TS]

01:12:13   actually that's a good point well [TS]

01:12:14   because they are BMWs official rims and [TS]

01:12:17   tires and they have like you know custom [TS]

01:12:19   pressure sensors and everything I would [TS]

01:12:21   imagine the car has some way that's how [TS]

01:12:23   that also this car isn't stock it runs [TS]

01:12:27   19 inch wheels and the 20-inch wheels [TS]

01:12:30   are an option so it's possible that it [TS]

01:12:33   detects which one you're running order [TS]

01:12:35   some kind of setting somewhere i'm not [TS]

01:12:37   really sure but it's AII it's obvious [TS]

01:12:40   it's made to run both of those sizes and [TS]

01:12:43   presumably even if the circumference [TS]

01:12:44   azhar different between 1920 the gps is [TS]

01:12:46   going to be accurate [TS]

01:12:47   regardless that's true but the party is [TS]

01:12:51   entitled anyway so you know I'm one [TS]

01:12:56   thing I thought was interesting too is [TS]

01:12:57   in the areas where there was no speed [TS]

01:13:01   limit i was paying attention to see how [TS]

01:13:04   fast do people choose to go but I think [TS]

01:13:07   that's an interesting question like okay [TS]

01:13:08   if it's totally unlimited and you're [TS]

01:13:10   only limits are you know practicality [TS]

01:13:12   safety and fuel economy [TS]

01:13:15   how fast do people generally choose to [TS]

01:13:16   go and and it seemed like what I what I [TS]

01:13:20   mostly saw four people going between 80 [TS]

01:13:23   and 90 and it didn't really seem that [TS]

01:13:27   fast it seemed normal [TS]

01:13:29   everyone's going that same speed roughly [TS]

01:13:30   and and and i mean that in miles of [TS]

01:13:34   course and it just worked that was like [TS]

01:13:37   that was like everyone's like kind of [TS]

01:13:39   natural cruising speed on these roads [TS]

01:13:41   they do that in Atlanta to but it [TS]

01:13:43   doesn't feel so good [TS]

01:13:44   well like you know here at you know most [TS]

01:13:47   of the roads around here where the speed [TS]

01:13:50   limit is 65 on the interstates I usually [TS]

01:13:55   see people going about 75 to 80 that [TS]

01:13:58   seems to be the average cruising speed [TS]

01:14:00   on like the new york thruway and various [TS]

01:14:03   large highways around here is roughly 75 [TS]

01:14:05   to 80 and so it seems like you know it [TS]

01:14:10   seems like we're already going almost [TS]

01:14:12   that speed and it were just breaking the [TS]

01:14:15   law is there and it's usually legal to [TS]

01:14:18   do that speed that's an income source [TS]

01:14:20   like it whenever you take a long trip [TS]

01:14:21   everyone is cruising around 75 80 85 [TS]

01:14:24   depending on the car but this is periods [TS]

01:14:26   of time where everyone goes slow the way [TS]

01:14:28   down and then you go past the cop and [TS]

01:14:30   everyone's back up again writing sample [TS]

01:14:31   dance that you do on your way to [TS]

01:14:33   wherever you're going exactly what I [TS]

01:14:36   also thought it was interesting because [TS]

01:14:37   we were able to visit with a friend of [TS]

01:14:40   Marco and tips and Marco ask this [TS]

01:14:42   question to to his friend and she had [TS]

01:14:45   said what did you say that she would do [TS]

01:14:47   somewhere in the range of ninety to a [TS]

01:14:49   hundred miles an hour is that right she [TS]

01:14:51   said she would do up to about 180 [TS]

01:14:52   kilometers so what does that miles about [TS]

01:14:54   hundred that's i don't know i had 110 [TS]

01:14:56   someone that anyway yeah so and yeah I [TS]

01:14:59   think I think it's about 110 anyway [TS]

01:15:02   regardless and and I found you know when [TS]

01:15:05   I when I had no limit in this car that [TS]

01:15:07   can very very easily do these speeds you [TS]

01:15:11   know might the highest speed i reach [TS]

01:15:12   that i noticed at least the highest-paid [TS]

01:15:14   arias was about a hundred and forty-one [TS]

01:15:16   and we actually have a picture of the [TS]

01:15:18   speedometer thanks to its quick and it's [TS]

01:15:21   a really good picture actually posted on [TS]

01:15:22   Twitter few days ago so about a hundred [TS]

01:15:25   forty-one with my highest i found that [TS]

01:15:27   in the moment areas I [TS]

01:15:28   is most comfortable going about 115 and [TS]

01:15:33   a lot of that of course it was that was [TS]

01:15:34   that the winter tires you know there was [TS]

01:15:36   there's a good amount of vibration of [TS]

01:15:38   those pieces that you can feel through [TS]

01:15:39   the wheels i would imagine the summer [TS]

01:15:41   tires would feel squishy here at those [TS]

01:15:44   speeds and and therefore may be [TS]

01:15:45   encouraged me to go even faster but you [TS]

01:15:48   know there's it's not just you on the [TS]

01:15:49   road there's all the other cars on the [TS]

01:15:51   road and you know you don't want to you [TS]

01:15:53   don't want to blow past somebody who's [TS]

01:15:55   like at a stop in the next Lane you [TS]

01:15:58   don't blow past them at 115 you know [TS]

01:16:00   what if they cut out and go into your [TS]

01:16:01   lane you want to leave yourself leave [TS]

01:16:04   yourself good amount of safety overhead [TS]

01:16:06   so I generally found it like you know [TS]

01:16:09   with with all no limit stuff i would i [TS]

01:16:12   would generally crews about 115 so you [TS]

01:16:15   know we're not that far off from that [TS]

01:16:17   here like you know it if we could if we [TS]

01:16:20   could raise the speed limits here into [TS]

01:16:22   the 85 range you know that that's that's [TS]

01:16:26   not bad i don't want normal cars can't [TS]

01:16:29   do that though like so many people Mars [TS]

01:16:31   can't came 250 or shouldn't do anything [TS]

01:16:33   they can they can hit that speed but it [TS]

01:16:35   feels like the world's going to end well [TS]

01:16:37   they should not be you shouldn't take [TS]

01:16:38   your like none of my car that I own [TS]

01:16:40   should I ever been going 215 and ever in [TS]

01:16:43   any circumstance not because they can [TS]

01:16:44   attain that speed but because it was [TS]

01:16:46   like at that point that we will be [TS]

01:16:47   shaking the steering will feel like it's [TS]

01:16:49   disconnected from the road and like a [TS]

01:16:51   fit any second . it's not I mean cars it [TS]

01:16:53   that's the guy's a big problem i think [TS]

01:16:55   the the at maybe it's I don't know the [TS]

01:16:57   system status but every time I see [TS]

01:16:59   pictures of Europe and stuff people seem [TS]

01:17:00   to have not nicer cars not bigger cars [TS]

01:17:03   not more powerful cars but like either [TS]

01:17:05   better maintained or newer looking cars [TS]

01:17:07   because I see lots of giant rusted-out [TS]

01:17:10   hunk of junk cars around here that they [TS]

01:17:12   shouldn't even be going 80 let alone [TS]

01:17:14   hundred something do you have state [TS]

01:17:16   inspections there and are they very true [TS]

01:17:17   but it's not a scam i mean you know like [TS]

01:17:20   anyway I i look at cars in the room like [TS]

01:17:21   there's no way that that estimate but it [TS]

01:17:24   . you know you just find the guy who [TS]

01:17:25   will you know Brian inspection thing or [TS]

01:17:27   you just just don't get inspected and [TS]

01:17:28   just you know [TS]

01:17:29   press your locking although the one [TS]

01:17:32   thing i will say isn't this might all be [TS]

01:17:34   in my head but especially when we were [TS]

01:17:36   in the cities like with in Munich I feel [TS]

01:17:38   like the the emissions regulations in [TS]

01:17:41   your [TS]

01:17:42   must be considerably less strict than [TS]

01:17:44   America because I felt like everywhere I [TS]

01:17:47   went I smelled exhaust and I don't know [TS]

01:17:49   Marco did you notice that as well but [TS]

01:17:51   there was yeah it was more certainly [TS]

01:17:53   more than I smell here [TS]

01:17:55   right exactly where you'd like it isn't [TS]

01:17:57   a diesel their diesel standards are not [TS]

01:17:58   as crazy as our switches way you'll get [TS]

01:18:00   away with driving diesel so some [TS]

01:18:02   combination of lower standards for [TS]

01:18:04   diesel admission and way way more [TS]

01:18:05   diesels gives you you know exactly and [TS]

01:18:08   that's also why a lot of the great [TS]

01:18:09   diesel models can't make it over to the [TS]

01:18:10   US because they don't pass our [TS]

01:18:12   certifications and it's not worth the [TS]

01:18:14   manufacturers you know doing what it [TS]

01:18:16   takes to pass them for the for the few [TS]

01:18:18   Americans who by diesels [TS]

01:18:20   so anyway yeah I didn't decide and [TS]

01:18:24   that's weird because you would expect [TS]

01:18:25   Europe to have more strict standards and [TS]

01:18:27   i was like i usually how it works with [TS]

01:18:29   environmental stuff but but in this case [TS]

01:18:32   they actually yeah it I i did notice [TS]

01:18:34   that that was definitely odd but anyway [TS]

01:18:38   so and and I i should say too if anyone [TS]

01:18:42   is interested in this topic [TS]

01:18:44   who knows if you are if you're not sorry [TS]

01:18:45   driving 140 and at these speeds that [TS]

01:18:50   high on a road that's made to be driven [TS]

01:18:53   fairly fast I isn't really that it [TS]

01:18:59   doesn't really feel that crazy it feels [TS]

01:19:01   it feels intense to some degree like [TS]

01:19:03   it's more it's more exhausting of your [TS]

01:19:07   concentration and it's more mentally [TS]

01:19:10   exhausting because you are going so much [TS]

01:19:13   faster [TS]

01:19:14   you know you're going so much faster you [TS]

01:19:16   need to concentrate harder on keeping [TS]

01:19:19   the car straight and steady cut and and [TS]

01:19:21   making sure you don't hit anything or [TS]

01:19:23   making sure you're minimizing your [TS]

01:19:24   chances of hitting somebody else like i [TS]

01:19:27   said earlier you know you gotta get a [TS]

01:19:29   wonder like somebody if i'm passing [TS]

01:19:31   somebody and I'm going 30 miles an hour [TS]

01:19:34   faster than they are you know what [TS]

01:19:36   happens if they decide to quickly change [TS]

01:19:38   in my land they don't see how fashion [TS]

01:19:40   coming up you know and what you know do [TS]

01:19:42   i will have time to see that and slow [TS]

01:19:43   down etc so those kind of considerations [TS]

01:19:47   make it more stressful and more mentally [TS]

01:19:50   draining but that's really the extent of [TS]

01:19:54   it like if you're in a car [TS]

01:19:55   made for that or at least if your car is [TS]

01:19:57   not rattling and falling apart at those [TS]

01:20:00   speeds that for me is what I find to be [TS]

01:20:03   the biggest challenge was just just [TS]

01:20:05   mentally keeping up with it and but [TS]

01:20:08   otherwise it was it was quite awesome [TS]

01:20:10   that [TS]

01:20:11   yeah and it was interesting to be in the [TS]

01:20:13   backseat while this was going on because [TS]

01:20:15   to be honest the difference between [TS]

01:20:17   American highway speeds and unlimited [TS]

01:20:19   autobahn speeds was that the wind was [TS]

01:20:22   louder other than Nick there at it [TS]

01:20:25   really didn't seem that different and in [TS]

01:20:28   fact when we slowed down to American [TS]

01:20:30   highway speeds [TS]

01:20:31   I felt like we were doing like 30 miles [TS]

01:20:34   an hour it felt so low it's crucial it [TS]

01:20:36   was it was terrible from the backseat [TS]

01:20:38   and I mean it let's be honest if I was [TS]

01:20:40   going to choose a car to be in the [TS]

01:20:42   backseat of it i would choose a car with [TS]

01:20:45   rear heated seats with rear dual-zone [TS]

01:20:47   climate with an engine that had infinite [TS]

01:20:50   power from any RPM in any gear [TS]

01:20:53   I mean it was it was it was a lovely [TS]

01:20:56   place to be [TS]

01:20:57   even in the backseat and I mean it's [TS]

01:21:00   it's an incredible vehicle you know I [TS]

01:21:02   don't want to hurt too much on it [TS]

01:21:03   because i know we're gonna get ahold of [TS]

01:21:05   people who think I'm a total for buy an [TS]

01:21:07   expensive car and and that's that's [TS]

01:21:09   warranted i am told and I apologize for [TS]

01:21:12   being a total but oh well now i can't do [TS]

01:21:16   anything about it now as well but so you [TS]

01:21:18   know I don't hurt too much on the car [TS]

01:21:20   but it is a ridiculously great car and [TS]

01:21:23   it has totally ruined my 3 series by a [TS]

01:21:28   long shot now coming back to a totally [TS]

01:21:30   ruin that car and and i like that car a [TS]

01:21:32   lot to have you driven the 1m since the [TS]

01:21:34   trip [TS]

01:21:34   I in fact I driver today for the first [TS]

01:21:36   time and how was that you know it was [TS]

01:21:40   interesting it was first of all it it [TS]

01:21:42   was not ruined by the m5 I'm good [TS]

01:21:45   I I still I still love driving it [TS]

01:21:47   however it still is and i even thought [TS]

01:21:51   briefly during the ride [TS]

01:21:52   you know maybe I should try to keep it [TS]

01:21:54   somehow and keep it with the m5 and keep [TS]

01:21:58   having three cars but as much as I [TS]

01:22:02   because it is it is an incredible [TS]

01:22:04   american amount amount of power the m5 [TS]

01:22:07   has more power [TS]

01:22:08   but the the 1m is an incredible amount [TS]

01:22:10   of power in a very small nimble car and [TS]

01:22:15   the m5 is many things but it is not [TS]

01:22:17   small and and so I thought briefly you [TS]

01:22:22   know I should really maybe consider this [TS]

01:22:24   but then when I went over the other half [TS]

01:22:27   of the trip that the way home was so [TS]

01:22:31   incredibly rough and bumpy from the [TS]

01:22:32   terrible roads here and the 1m is really [TS]

01:22:36   really firm and so to go over rough you [TS]

01:22:39   know rough potholes and stuff an old [TS]

01:22:41   pavement it is pretty uncomfortable on [TS]

01:22:43   the one hand and and going over that I [TS]

01:22:47   realize you know what a I i think you [TS]

01:22:50   know it it is a great car had so much [TS]

01:22:53   fun with it but as i've mentioned in [TS]

01:22:56   previous shows having three cars is [TS]

01:22:58   greatly annoying to me or you know [TS]

01:22:59   having two primaries myself is greatly [TS]

01:23:02   annoying to me and it has many small and [TS]

01:23:06   large annoyances every single day and [TS]

01:23:08   it's just as great of cars it is it's [TS]

01:23:11   not worth it to me if I if I have [TS]

01:23:13   something as awesome as the m5 it's not [TS]

01:23:15   worth it to me so I'm going to sell it [TS]

01:23:19   anyway so I forget we also wanted to go [TS]

01:23:24   with oh yes so the other place we went [TS]

01:23:26   with the m5 so so we did we did we get [TS]

01:23:28   our trip around Europe and it was a [TS]

01:23:29   blast [TS]

01:23:30   one of the places we stopped was to [TS]

01:23:34   visit our friend in bond and bond is [TS]

01:23:37   only about 45 minutes from newburgh and [TS]

01:23:41   most people listen to the show have [TS]

01:23:45   probably heard of a track in nürnberg [TS]

01:23:48   now whatever you think of the [TS]

01:23:52   Nurburgring and of cars you know being [TS]

01:23:55   made for it and being optimized for it [TS]

01:23:58   and the kinds of people who drive the [TS]

01:24:00   Nurburgring i would suggest if you ever [TS]

01:24:04   have a chance to do it if you're ever in [TS]

01:24:07   the area with a car that you can drive [TS]

01:24:09   on or if you want to rent one that which [TS]

01:24:11   they have services that you can rent [TS]

01:24:13   cars to drive on the rink [TS]

01:24:15   I cannot recommend it highly enough [TS]

01:24:19   and so here the Nurburgring is not [TS]

01:24:22   explained very well no it is not that we [TS]

01:24:28   so we we went I went to the Nurburgring [TS]

01:24:31   site and found its address and GPS [TS]

01:24:34   coordinates and so I find a dress and [TS]

01:24:37   touching the gps I had a great turns out [TS]

01:24:41   that the Nurburgring I knew it was two [TS]

01:24:45   tracks there's like the Grand Prix one [TS]

01:24:47   and then I'm so sorry for the [TS]

01:24:48   pronunciation the North she'll if I [TS]

01:24:51   don't know that's when people refer to [TS]

01:24:53   the Nurburgring they're usually [TS]

01:24:54   referring to the north left which is [TS]

01:24:55   like the the long 13-mile very twisty [TS]

01:24:59   turny track i wasn't mean like North [TS]

01:25:01   circuit or something like that or [TS]

01:25:03   something like that yeah actually that [TS]

01:25:05   makes it ok anyway so the place called [TS]

01:25:10   nürburgring on the GPS system was for [TS]

01:25:13   the grand prix circuit it was like it [TS]

01:25:15   was this giant like info building and [TS]

01:25:17   like gift shop and bought this stuff for [TS]

01:25:19   the grand prix rollercoaster yeah [TS]

01:25:21   exactly what it was like a little mini [TS]

01:25:22   theme park so we got week [TS]

01:25:25   it took us a good 45 minutes to find the [TS]

01:25:31   to find out how to get the little credit [TS]

01:25:33   card thing that lets you onto the track [TS]

01:25:36   and then define the entrance to the [TS]

01:25:38   track we had like running and ask people [TS]

01:25:40   it was it was a it was comical we we [TS]

01:25:44   barely made it in time to get any laps [TS]

01:25:46   in and they're only open for like two [TS]

01:25:48   hours at night on weekdays for to the [TS]

01:25:51   public the rest like the whole day [TS]

01:25:52   they're booked by private people and [TS]

01:25:54   they're open they're open to the public [TS]

01:25:55   and the evenings and none of the posted [TS]

01:25:58   times were accurate like the website so [TS]

01:26:00   they were open from five to 530-730 [TS]

01:26:03   turns out they're open from 5 15 7 15 [TS]

01:26:06   and the and the ticket office closes at [TS]

01:26:09   five like there's all sorts of little [TS]

01:26:10   crazy crazy little like gotchas in the [TS]

01:26:13   process and all you have to get you to [TS]

01:26:15   get the ring card from this machine but [TS]

01:26:16   that machine's broken or that mission is [TS]

01:26:17   closed and then you get the ring card [TS]

01:26:20   you put the money in the ring card but [TS]

01:26:21   your credit card because the interface [TS]

01:26:23   sucks and I knew he finally got the [TS]

01:26:25   money on the credit card and you go try [TS]

01:26:27   to pull up and get into the ring but you [TS]

01:26:28   didn't get the money into laps you go to [TS]

01:26:30   a different machine for the [TS]

01:26:31   it was it was comical to John's point I [TS]

01:26:35   think Johnny would ask early on when did [TS]

01:26:37   things go wrong things went very wrong [TS]

01:26:39   at the nürburgring yeah and and not [TS]

01:26:41   currently not in the collision sense but [TS]

01:26:43   in the sense of just trying to find it [TS]

01:26:45   and get on it was they were you trying [TS]

01:26:47   to get on the the formula one short [TS]

01:26:49   thing or the build a big thing the big [TS]

01:26:50   liar and a long one and it was just it [TS]

01:26:53   was impossibly poorly supplied named [TS]

01:26:55   there was an assumption that you knew [TS]

01:26:57   what you were doing before you even got [TS]

01:26:59   there right [TS]

01:27:00   it was just it was not well done which [TS]

01:27:03   maybe is why they're bank robbers it [TS]

01:27:04   isn't does not noob friendly at all no [TS]

01:27:07   although I will say it was pretty it was [TS]

01:27:09   a pretty good sign when we decided to [TS]

01:27:11   fuel up before the Nurburgring which I [TS]

01:27:13   know all the real racecar drivers like [TS]

01:27:14   Jesus Christ why did you do that right [TS]

01:27:16   before you went on the track but we [TS]

01:27:18   wanted to make sure we have enough gas [TS]

01:27:19   and so we pulled into this gas station [TS]

01:27:20   and i think i tweeted a picture of like [TS]

01:27:23   six or seven different Porsches a [TS]

01:27:25   Ferrari of some flavor I john i'm sorry [TS]

01:27:27   i don't recall what it was there was a 1 [TS]

01:27:29   series am like 22 spots down there must [TS]

01:27:32   laminating east and now it was really [TS]

01:27:35   really i didn't see I don't but it [TS]

01:27:36   doesn't matter the point is that was [TS]

01:27:37   like one or two million dollars with the [TS]

01:27:39   cars at this like kind of junky gasps [TS]

01:27:42   very small gas to hit I had like six [TS]

01:27:44   pumps you know it's not exactly [TS]

01:27:45   yeah so it was crazy but anyway so [TS]

01:27:48   eventually Marco in in tiffin Darren and [TS]

01:27:51   I figure out how to get onto the ring [TS]

01:27:54   yeah and so Marco of course goes first [TS]

01:27:57   yeah and and it was you know we were [TS]

01:28:00   prepped early on by by lots of our [TS]

01:28:03   various internet friends and i had [TS]

01:28:05   actually I had purchased I think for [TS]

01:28:08   staff or whatever xbox racing game has [TS]

01:28:12   the Nurburgring in it and it's fairly [TS]

01:28:13   recent I think it's 44 I don't know much [TS]

01:28:16   about those those uh so sorry if I got [TS]

01:28:18   it wrong but i purchased this game like [TS]

01:28:20   three months ago knowing I was going to [TS]

01:28:23   try to drive the Nurburgring just to try [TS]

01:28:25   to train myself on a little bit just to [TS]

01:28:27   familiarize myself with the track just [TS]

01:28:28   to know you know what turns are coming [TS]

01:28:29   up and and and I at the time i posted on [TS]

01:28:33   Twitter first asking you know what game [TS]

01:28:35   I should get to do this and then you [TS]

01:28:37   know later on just seeing responses from [TS]

01:28:39   people asking how it was going and [TS]

01:28:41   by far the most common response i got [TS]

01:28:43   after got through all the people [TS]

01:28:46   fighting over whether granturismo or [TS]

01:28:49   Forza was the better game to get because [TS]

01:28:51   i have a ps3 and so I said okay I can do [TS]

01:28:54   either of these systems you know what [TS]

01:28:56   should i get oh my god don't don't ask [TS]

01:28:58   about video game rivalries on Twitter it [TS]

01:29:01   is so so unhelpful but it anyway [TS]

01:29:05   the most common response i got besides [TS]

01:29:08   that was don't even bother it won't help [TS]

01:29:11   you at all because this track has like [TS]

01:29:13   70-something turns you're not going to [TS]

01:29:16   learn from the video game it people who [TS]

01:29:17   drive it every day for years don't know [TS]

01:29:19   it like it you know it don't even bother [TS]

01:29:21   is it is what these people usually said [TS]

01:29:24   and and overall I can say that was [TS]

01:29:26   exactly correct that all my videogame [TS]

01:29:30   training for this track was completely [TS]

01:29:32   unhelpful in real life of course in real [TS]

01:29:35   life it's way easier than a video game [TS]

01:29:37   because you know you're controlling a [TS]

01:29:38   real car just way easier than driving a [TS]

01:29:40   videogame car of course the penalties [TS]

01:29:42   are hired to hit the law but overall I [TS]

01:29:46   it was awesome it would we were scared [TS]

01:29:50   out of our minds and we didn't drive [TS]

01:29:53   very fast i think we we didn't measure [TS]

01:29:55   most Alaskans with another thing people [TS]

01:29:57   said online was don't even bother time [TS]

01:30:00   your laughs because then it will [TS]

01:30:01   encourage you to go faster and you don't [TS]

01:30:03   need that kind of encouragement your [TS]

01:30:04   first time to bring in your own car and [TS]

01:30:08   that was also very wise so we did not [TS]

01:30:11   time our laps except for Casey stuck in [TS]

01:30:13   a time of the last lap I wish that which [TS]

01:30:15   was about 15 minutes and it felt we had [TS]

01:30:17   passengers in the car for every lap [TS]

01:30:19   obviously we're driving it feels [TS]

01:30:20   different when you're a passenger that [TS]

01:30:21   you can kind of get an idea for you know [TS]

01:30:23   how how well you're doing and and it [TS]

01:30:26   seemed like all the last week is roughly [TS]

01:30:28   the same time ring so I think we all [TS]

01:30:30   managed about 15-minute laps but what I [TS]

01:30:34   was very happy with but so anyway 111 [TS]

01:30:37   problem we had was okay we got there and [TS]

01:30:40   there was like an hour and a half left [TS]

01:30:41   of time the track was open and we had [TS]

01:30:44   four people and we knew we wanted to at [TS]

01:30:46   least two laps at least me and casey and [TS]

01:30:48   the wires were both kind of on the fence [TS]

01:30:50   whether they wanted to do it or not they [TS]

01:30:52   were a wait-and-see and so [TS]

01:30:55   I did my lap it was ridiculous it was [TS]

01:30:58   how it was so awesome and again you know [TS]

01:31:02   we're doing like 15 minutes we weren't [TS]

01:31:03   even going that fast [TS]

01:31:05   you know I think most of the time we [TS]

01:31:06   were going maybe 50 miles an hour [TS]

01:31:07   through a lot of the terms and through a [TS]

01:31:09   lot of the sections or or less you know [TS]

01:31:11   I went faster on the Autobahn really [TS]

01:31:13   like my top speed of the Nurburgring [TS]

01:31:15   that big straight away at the end was [TS]

01:31:16   like 120 you know I'd like I haven't [TS]

01:31:19   passed on the Autobahn did on the [TS]

01:31:20   Nurburgring by the the lap record for [TS]

01:31:23   the long track is six minutes 11 seconds [TS]

01:31:25   yeah to give you an idea of how fast the [TS]

01:31:27   crazy fast people are going right and i [TS]

01:31:29   think i think people in this exact car i [TS]

01:31:33   think they've done it in like 7 55 or [TS]

01:31:35   seven something in in the seven-minute [TS]

01:31:38   range but regardless doesn't matter you [TS]

01:31:41   know we were we were doing it to do it [TS]

01:31:43   not to get a good time on it where there [TS]

01:31:46   are other people on the track who were [TS]

01:31:47   going really fast that you had to get [TS]

01:31:49   out of the way of the that we lucked out [TS]

01:31:52   though that it wasn't very crowded they [TS]

01:31:54   were there weren't that many cars i [TS]

01:31:56   would say for each 15-minute lap we were [TS]

01:31:59   probably passed by it maybe 10 people at [TS]

01:32:01   most i wasn't it wasn't a large number [TS]

01:32:04   and there were a lot of people there [TS]

01:32:05   did you see any super exotics I'm not [TS]

01:32:08   really they were there were a lot of [TS]

01:32:10   porsche 911 and out of them a few m [TS]

01:32:14   threes and a couple of little hot [TS]

01:32:15   hatches that I didn't recognize there [TS]

01:32:17   was a Corvette yeah there's one Corvette [TS]

01:32:19   I don't know why that is anyone but it [TS]

01:32:22   was exotic 01 its kind of exotic to see [TS]

01:32:24   what not only think it was a zr1 I [TS]

01:32:26   didn't get a good look [TS]

01:32:27   we were surprised to see in Germany and [TS]

01:32:30   and there was one really decked out [TS]

01:32:33   lexus is-f that was just being obviously [TS]

01:32:38   being driven by somebody there either [TS]

01:32:40   very good or very stupid i think [TS]

01:32:42   probably just very good because that car [TS]

01:32:45   passed us faster than any car we saw [TS]

01:32:47   that it got there is a factory test [TS]

01:32:50   driver [TS]

01:32:50   no but I think I got a picture of it and [TS]

01:32:53   it was actually a rental car so wow I [TS]

01:32:55   don't like I believe i might be wrong [TS]

01:32:57   about this it was an orange is f and it [TS]

01:33:00   was our very last lap which is when [TS]

01:33:01   Aaron was driving and it it was followed [TS]

01:33:04   reasonably closely by modern m3 but just [TS]

01:33:07   like Marco said [TS]

01:33:08   far away in my opinion the quickest [TS]

01:33:10   thing that passed us was that is f it [TS]

01:33:13   blew our doors off and again like Marco [TS]

01:33:15   said it's important to know that we were [TS]

01:33:17   I I can only speak for myself but I was [TS]

01:33:19   driving it like five tenths because a [TS]

01:33:21   it's a card never been in be I've never [TS]

01:33:24   driven on a track before see it's still [TS]

01:33:27   under break-in you know I don't win [TS]

01:33:29   indeed it's on winter tires i mean it [TS]

01:33:30   was it was a confluence of reasons not [TS]

01:33:32   to drive like an idiot and in especially [TS]

01:33:36   I don't want Marco to never talk to me [TS]

01:33:37   again after i wrapped his m5 around a [TS]

01:33:40   pole because I drove like a moron right [TS]

01:33:41   so now I mean we were all driving like [TS]

01:33:44   grandma's but it was still one of the [TS]

01:33:47   coolest experiences I've ever had in my [TS]

01:33:49   intent and what made it great to is it [TS]

01:33:51   all four of us drove me and Casey drove [TS]

01:33:53   and both our wives drove and and KN 0 KC [TS]

01:33:56   case your wife is a pretty confident [TS]

01:33:58   driver [TS]

01:33:59   my wife is is medium confidence you know [TS]

01:34:02   not not especially confident about [TS]

01:34:04   driving but not you know not scared just [TS]

01:34:07   right in the middle is which one of you [TS]

01:34:11   felt the least inhibited you would think [TS]

01:34:13   Marco at least interview sites his car [TS]

01:34:15   you can do whatever you want to but on [TS]

01:34:16   the other hand it's his card maybe baby [TS]

01:34:18   it so I was thinking that uh before [TS]

01:34:20   hearing that yeah tiff is kind of a [TS]

01:34:22   timid driver that she would be the one [TS]

01:34:23   most willing to flog it because hey it's [TS]

01:34:26   not her car and if she breaks it was [TS]

01:34:28   gonna do [TS]

01:34:29   tiff actually had i measured are times i [TS]

01:34:32   bet she did a faster lap than I did [TS]

01:34:34   because she she took some of the terms [TS]

01:34:37   faster than I was willing to because i [TS]

01:34:39   had i did the first lap and and so when [TS]

01:34:43   I was driving it we didn't know what to [TS]

01:34:45   expect with things like other people [TS]

01:34:47   being on the track things like track [TS]

01:34:48   conditions like there's one part of the [TS]

01:34:51   track that had snow on the shoulder [TS]

01:34:53   because it was in the shade and you know [TS]

01:34:56   anyway like there were no we don't know [TS]

01:34:57   what the conditions would be we didn't [TS]

01:34:59   know what it would be you know how it be [TS]

01:35:01   in real life we didn't know if it would [TS]

01:35:02   be full of crazy motorcyclists or [TS]

01:35:04   anything we had no idea and so my lap [TS]

01:35:07   was the very first lap so I was overly [TS]

01:35:10   cautious i think and I'm very I'm [TS]

01:35:13   perfectly fine having having done that [TS]

01:35:15   like I lost grip for a split second on [TS]

01:35:19   one turn and that was the only time I [TS]

01:35:20   lost grip [TS]

01:35:21   at all and I don't I didn't notice [TS]

01:35:25   anyone i was in the car for all four [TS]

01:35:26   laps i didn't notice anyone else losing [TS]

01:35:27   me grip but that all the the electric [TS]

01:35:30   nannies are on the right yes [TS]

01:35:31   oh yeah i would not I i know that's [TS]

01:35:33   probably tip terrible for purest I [TS]

01:35:35   didn't even use the M dynamic mode that [TS]

01:35:37   the M cars have to allow a little bit of [TS]

01:35:39   sleep and then get back on track [TS]

01:35:41   I didn't even turn that on because I [TS]

01:35:43   knew like you know what this is because [TS]

01:35:45   I we were also told by our friend and i [TS]

01:35:48   think this is true that insurance [TS]

01:35:50   doesn't really apply if something [TS]

01:35:52   happens to you on the Nurburgring so and [TS]

01:35:55   more than that if we bust the ring it's [TS]

01:35:58   on us to fix it yet like they bill us to [TS]

01:36:00   fix it you have you like if you hit the [TS]

01:36:02   wall though the ability to repair the [TS]

01:36:03   wall its oh but I mean obviously [TS]

01:36:06   preparing your car's probably more money [TS]

01:36:08   than that so you know we were we were [TS]

01:36:12   nervous you know I was nervous because [TS]

01:36:13   of unfamiliarity with this and not want [TS]

01:36:16   to wreck my car and everyone else was [TS]

01:36:18   nervous to not wrecked my car [TS]

01:36:20   pickens oh very much so its eggs except [TS]

01:36:23   for every tip well she was new it was [TS]

01:36:27   funny because Aaron went last it was it [TS]

01:36:29   was Marco than me then [TS]

01:36:31   tifton Aaron and I actually feel to my [TS]

01:36:35   to my butt dyno as they say I actually [TS]

01:36:38   feel like erin was the one that drove [TS]

01:36:40   hardest in I don't know if that's [TS]

01:36:43   because i was in the front for that lap [TS]

01:36:45   and so I could see it a little better [TS]

01:36:46   whereas i thought i don't know i was [TS]

01:36:48   looking for you were to confer tips left [TS]

01:36:50   i wasn't in the car for I was not in the [TS]

01:36:52   car for tips lap so i can't speak for [TS]

01:36:53   how hard she was driving but i think [TS]

01:36:55   both Tiffany and had the benefit of [TS]

01:36:57   having been through at least one or two [TS]

01:36:59   laps before your hands athlete and I [TS]

01:37:01   think you would have driven a lot harder [TS]

01:37:02   i don't know if i had the the cojones to [TS]

01:37:05   drive any harder than i did and i drove [TS]

01:37:06   like a grandmother i'll be the first to [TS]

01:37:08   admit it but I there a couple times [TS]

01:37:11   where I reached for my my break in the [TS]

01:37:13   passenger seat when Aaron was driving [TS]

01:37:15   and I don't undergo good way i mean i [TS]

01:37:17   thought i was very proud of her i was [TS]

01:37:19   very excited for how well she did their [TS]

01:37:21   minds are reaching for a stick shift [TS]

01:37:22   occasionally more pressing your left [TS]

01:37:25   foot down [TS]

01:37:26   I did not actually i think when i [TS]

01:37:27   started the car i put my foot on the [TS]

01:37:30   clutch exactly was not much but other [TS]

01:37:31   than that I didn't [TS]

01:37:32   and again I mean at this point now I'm I [TS]

01:37:35   have driven the m5 and i would still [TS]

01:37:37   personally love to have a clutch it's [TS]

01:37:41   slower it's clunkier but it's just more [TS]

01:37:44   involved with that said and I'm a [TS]

01:37:46   butcher the simpsons quote you know it I [TS]

01:37:49   for one welcome our future dct overlords [TS]

01:37:52   I mean I i never thought i'd say this [TS]

01:37:54   but if if the m5 transmission is where [TS]

01:37:56   our future is I'll be sad but I'll be [TS]

01:38:00   okay with it is really unbelievably [TS]

01:38:03   incredibly awesomely great i cannot say [TS]

01:38:06   enough good things about it and by all [TS]

01:38:08   accounts the stick on the m5 is not a [TS]

01:38:10   good stick correct by any standards let [TS]

01:38:12   alone BMW standards well yeah I'm not [TS]

01:38:14   really much of a choice there yet [TS]

01:38:15   I mean I saw the reviews have all pretty [TS]

01:38:18   much pan the m5 stick but they they seem [TS]

01:38:20   to pan it in in relation to the dct I [TS]

01:38:24   mean it is it isn't that it's a bad [TS]

01:38:26   stick is that he seems like a good it [TS]

01:38:28   seems like it's a bad stick like that [TS]

01:38:30   you know it [TS]

01:38:32   I especially when you're reading [TS]

01:38:33   magazines that are enthusiastic [TS]

01:38:34   magazines let's say look we know its [TS]

01:38:36   lower whatever we find more trouble [TS]

01:38:37   they're like we don't find it more fun [TS]

01:38:39   to drive like so there's no reason to [TS]

01:38:41   get this DVD is better and all these [TS]

01:38:43   other ways and this isn't even more fun [TS]

01:38:44   it's it's dino to chor beyond the on the [TS]

01:38:49   prior m5 whose model designation I don't [TS]

01:38:51   recall but the v10 m5 everything i read [TS]

01:38:53   was that the standard transmission which [TS]

01:38:55   by the way for both that car in Marcos [TS]

01:38:57   f10 is only available in America [TS]

01:38:59   everyone said on the prior general that [TS]

01:39:02   the standard transmission was very [TS]

01:39:04   poorly suited for the v10 engine and I [TS]

01:39:07   never really looked into why that was [TS]

01:39:08   and so I I couldn't even tell you but [TS]

01:39:10   they said it was a bad combination i [TS]

01:39:12   guess the gearing was bad as paired with [TS]

01:39:14   that engine and I don't know if thats [TS]

01:39:16   related for for the f10 like Marco has [TS]

01:39:18   but I tell you what that that [TS]

01:39:20   transmission was incredible in and [TS]

01:39:22   driving the Nurburgring was just [TS]

01:39:23   unbelievably awesome and I'm so thankful [TS]

01:39:25   that that we're all late that any of us [TS]

01:39:28   were able to do what I would've been [TS]

01:39:29   happy if Marco did it and said to us you [TS]

01:39:30   know what new we gotta go but thankfully [TS]

01:39:34   he was dumb enough to hand me the keys [TS]

01:39:36   figuratively speaking and then dumb [TS]

01:39:38   enough to I can't speak for tiff but to [TS]

01:39:40   hand Aaron the keys as well and that's [TS]

01:39:42   not insulting her driving just I mean [TS]

01:39:43   it's one thing to have your wife destroy [TS]

01:39:46   your brand-new car it's another thing to [TS]

01:39:47   have [TS]

01:39:48   friend or your friend's wife to strike [TS]

01:39:49   and destroy your brand new car so I it [TS]

01:39:51   was it was phenomenal and it was funny [TS]

01:39:53   because to in market was starting to say [TS]

01:39:55   this earlier but it was kinda like hmm i [TS]

01:39:58   don't know if i want to go right and you [TS]

01:39:59   and she actually so I want first thing [TS]

01:40:01   case you want to prolong from my lap got [TS]

01:40:04   very intimidated and set out for casey's [TS]

01:40:08   lap and what made her get back in and [TS]

01:40:11   decided she wanted to do it is that she [TS]

01:40:14   saw the kind of car that we're getting [TS]

01:40:16   on the track and it wasn't just all [TS]

01:40:18   crazy racer nuts [TS]

01:40:20   it was like families and people with [TS]

01:40:23   like car seats in their car and I think [TS]

01:40:25   really regular people just getting on to [TS]

01:40:28   have some fun you know and not to drive [TS]

01:40:30   crazily and she could also see like how [TS]

01:40:32   relatively few cars are getting on the [TS]

01:40:34   track and so it was it was not crowded [TS]

01:40:36   committed very very friendly towards [TS]

01:40:38   newbies and and even know when somebody [TS]

01:40:41   crazy wants to pass you [TS]

01:40:42   there's etiquette you could use signal [TS]

01:40:44   right and you slowly and you stay to the [TS]

01:40:46   right and that tells them [TS]

01:40:48   ok I'm let you pass me and they pass you [TS]

01:40:50   and I said it's really easy and and so [TS]

01:40:52   like it's not really a problem that [TS]

01:40:55   there's different skill levels and [TS]

01:40:56   different speeds going on and at least [TS]

01:41:00   we were there there was really nobody [TS]

01:41:01   being like unsafely crazy i mean i know [TS]

01:41:03   that happens but we saw in a state that [TS]

01:41:07   it was extremely newbie friendly once [TS]

01:41:10   you could figure out where the heck the [TS]

01:41:11   entranceways people in the other nice [TS]

01:41:14   thing was well we had all decided about [TS]

01:41:16   a hundred yards into marcos lap that hey [TS]

01:41:19   you know what we'll do is anyone who is [TS]

01:41:21   not driving will at least periodically [TS]

01:41:23   look behind us and start to let the [TS]

01:41:26   driver know there's somebody approaching [TS]

01:41:28   us 15 seconds ten seconds five seconds [TS]

01:41:30   alright get right and that helped me i [TS]

01:41:33   can't speak for anyone else but it [TS]

01:41:34   helped me a lot a lot because because [TS]

01:41:37   this way you don't have to worry about [TS]

01:41:38   what's behind you all you care about is [TS]

01:41:40   what's in front of you and just like [TS]

01:41:41   Marco said the etiquette is you if [TS]

01:41:43   you're going to get past you stay to the [TS]

01:41:44   right [TS]

01:41:45   even if that's the inside line you [TS]

01:41:47   signal to the right as an indicator to [TS]

01:41:49   the person behind you I understand [TS]

01:41:51   you're here and you're going to pass me [TS]

01:41:53   and then the other thing i noticed which [TS]

01:41:55   I hadn't heard advanced was a lot of [TS]

01:41:56   times they would signal to the left as [TS]

01:41:58   kind of a confirmation as a gon [TS]

01:42:01   that they've seen you seeing them which [TS]

01:42:05   is silly as that sounds was actually [TS]

01:42:06   also really really helpful to see and [TS]

01:42:09   know that everyone is in agreement [TS]

01:42:11   you're about to get your doors blown off [TS]

01:42:12   but you know if you stick to the right [TS]

01:42:14   side of the track everyone will be ok [TS]

01:42:15   right and and people who are who are [TS]

01:42:17   good / crazy enough to go around the [TS]

01:42:20   track really fast they're accustomed to [TS]

01:42:22   passing people all the time because they [TS]

01:42:24   have to you know because that's because [TS]

01:42:26   there's always going to be you know that [TS]

01:42:27   no matter what speed you go you're going [TS]

01:42:28   to pass you will accept us i don't think [TS]

01:42:30   we have to pass anybody entire time I [TS]

01:42:32   don't think any of us did go out again I [TS]

01:42:34   wasn't with tiff but i don't think i'm [TS]

01:42:36   pretty sure we didn't press my stomach [TS]

01:42:37   and there were a lot of really really [TS]

01:42:40   comparatively crummy cars that passed us [TS]

01:42:42   like a lot of it yet case you got passed [TS]

01:42:45   by what we what we charitably are [TS]

01:42:46   calling a crossover but it was a minivan [TS]

01:42:49   it really is that is not a lie and I'm [TS]

01:42:51   okay with it because again I'm just so [TS]

01:42:53   thankful that we were able to do it i am [TS]

01:42:55   so thankful that not a one of us wrapped [TS]

01:42:57   marcos car around a pole [TS]

01:42:59   I'm also thankful for so yeah I mean it [TS]

01:43:03   was we should wrap it up pretty soon but [TS]

01:43:05   i think it was it was an incredible [TS]

01:43:08   experience doing european delivery [TS]

01:43:10   driving this particular car especially [TS]

01:43:13   and and being on these roads being on [TS]

01:43:17   the Autobahn be a driving in the Alps [TS]

01:43:20   being you know going to the Nurburgring [TS]

01:43:23   and it was it was just incredible and if [TS]

01:43:28   you have if you're already buying a new [TS]

01:43:31   BMW which I recognize that's that's a [TS]

01:43:34   big barrier but if you're if you're [TS]

01:43:36   buying financing or leasing a new BMW [TS]

01:43:39   that is produced in Europe which rules [TS]

01:43:42   out i believe the x3 and x5 but [TS]

01:43:45   regardless I you know if if you can do [TS]

01:43:49   this i highly recommend that you do and [TS]

01:43:53   your own what you almost did the ferris [TS]

01:43:54   bueller quote almost will give you [TS]

01:43:56   partial credit [TS]

01:43:56   haha if you have the means i highly [TS]

01:43:59   suggest that I mean it's fun it's really [TS]

01:44:02   a no cost wise the higher-end car you [TS]

01:44:06   buy the more money you saved as the [TS]

01:44:07   percentage in many cases it can cover [TS]

01:44:10   most or all of the cost of the trip just [TS]

01:44:12   the savings alone so [TS]

01:44:14   you so if you have the time and if [TS]

01:44:17   you're willing to go out here and do [TS]

01:44:19   this it's almost a no-brainer and [TS]

01:44:21   certainly you know because this this [TS]

01:44:24   cars gonna be a lease if I don't buy it [TS]

01:44:26   at the end of the lease and I if I if I [TS]

01:44:28   decide to leave something else if i'm [TS]

01:44:31   still buy a BMW 3 years I would almost [TS]

01:44:33   certainly do this again and it's really [TS]

01:44:36   quite good and I think aaron and i will [TS]

01:44:39   invite ourselves along whether or not [TS]

01:44:40   we're welcome and it was funny because [TS]

01:44:42   the so that we did the Nurburgring on [TS]

01:44:44   Thursday Friday basically all we needed [TS]

01:44:47   to do is get to Munich and then saturday [TS]

01:44:48   we drop the car off and left and i think [TS]

01:44:52   doing the Nurburgring at the tail into [TS]

01:44:54   the trip and doing it the way we did we [TS]

01:44:57   were very lucky because you know the [TS]

01:44:59   trip was already really fun and I and I [TS]

01:45:01   can only speak friend and I but we were [TS]

01:45:02   having a really good time but I feel [TS]

01:45:03   like all four of us once we once we got [TS]

01:45:07   out of the driver's seat of that car [TS]

01:45:08   just were on this unbelievable high and [TS]

01:45:12   it was such a wonderful incredible [TS]

01:45:14   experience even without the Nurburgring [TS]

01:45:16   i agree that European deliveries worth [TS]

01:45:18   it's cool it's a once-in-a-lifetime [TS]

01:45:19   opportunity but having done the [TS]

01:45:22   Nurburgring especially even driving it [TS]

01:45:24   like a ninety-year-old it was so [TS]

01:45:27   phenomenally awesome and I felt like all [TS]

01:45:29   of us were on such a high I'm still [TS]

01:45:31   there you know it's been almost a week [TS]

01:45:33   now later it was the most one of the [TS]

01:45:36   most incredible things I've ever done [TS]

01:45:37   and then after the Nurburgring we would [TS]

01:45:39   we stayed at this wonderful [TS]

01:45:40   bed-and-breakfast not far from there and [TS]

01:45:42   then we went to this really nice hotel [TS]

01:45:44   in Munich that was right near the [TS]

01:45:46   airport and just kind of children and [TS]

01:45:48   had some time with each other and it was [TS]

01:45:51   it was really phenomenal and then I'm so [TS]

01:45:53   glad that mark . if you're dumb enough [TS]

01:45:54   to invite me along i'm sure they [TS]

01:45:57   probably have invited aaron anyway but [TS]

01:45:58   infidel enough to invite me along [TS]

01:46:00   you ready for your life but not you yeah [TS]

01:46:02   I wouldn't fault you never next one [TS]

01:46:04   anyway but no okay i mean it would [TS]

01:46:06   surely it was an unbelievable experience [TS]

01:46:07   i'm a little sad that John you weren't [TS]

01:46:09   there but as well but you know it is [TS]

01:46:11   what it is i don't believe in vacations [TS]

01:46:12   are traveling that I was really hoping [TS]

01:46:14   that we that we would see John and his [TS]

01:46:17   civic on the Nurburgring i was i was [TS]

01:46:20   going to post a picture take a picture [TS]

01:46:21   of my speedo when I was traveling on the [TS]

01:46:23   the road [TS]

01:46:24   that runs along the river on my way to [TS]

01:46:26   work where the speed limit is 30 and [TS]

01:46:28   there's a police officer there every [TS]

01:46:29   single day [TS]

01:46:30   that's what I think a picture me having [TS]

01:46:32   it pinned at 30 which I can do like now [TS]

01:46:34   you know without even looking at the [TS]

01:46:35   speedometer as i slowly go down which [TS]

01:46:38   would actually fun it would actually be [TS]

01:46:40   a fun road to drive quickly and it's [TS]

01:46:41   kind of windy it's just a little tiny [TS]

01:46:42   strip but yeah that that's what i was [TS]

01:46:44   doing keeping it exactly 30 [TS]

01:46:47   well if it makes you feel better we got [TS]

01:46:48   to JFK got a taxi after leaving JFK and [TS]

01:46:51   promptly did five miles an hour on [TS]

01:46:53   I don't remember what road we were on [TS]

01:46:54   but it was it was sobering yeah it does [TS]

01:46:58   who's welcome back to the US and screw [TS]

01:47:02   you that I was it was bad a couple of [TS]

01:47:05   quick notes that i just want to share [TS]

01:47:06   because i know we it i'm very pleased to [TS]

01:47:08   say it seems like we have a decent [TS]

01:47:09   amount of European listeners and [TS]

01:47:10   oftentimes when they're not correcting [TS]

01:47:13   us about how wrong we are about Europe [TS]

01:47:14   which is pretty much all the time [TS]

01:47:16   surely they hold and deservedly so yeah [TS]

01:47:19   they've often asked you what you were [TS]

01:47:21   certainly since we were there what do [TS]

01:47:22   you think what did you joy what did you [TS]

01:47:24   what did you think about everything I [TS]

01:47:26   know that I was very stressed about [TS]

01:47:28   whether or not people speak english and [TS]

01:47:30   i think i speak for everyone saying that [TS]

01:47:31   I found in my personal opinion that [TS]

01:47:35   everywhere we went [TS]

01:47:36   almost everyone spoke at least [TS]

01:47:38   conversational English in my experience [TS]

01:47:40   of usually people that apologize [TS]

01:47:44   profusely for how bad their English was [TS]

01:47:46   were effectively fluent in English it [TS]

01:47:48   was hysterical that was the bells of I'm [TS]

01:47:50   so sorry it was so bad after they've [TS]

01:47:52   talked you know an entire paragraph in [TS]

01:47:54   perfect flawless English yep better than [TS]

01:47:57   mark over me or wives but it was better [TS]

01:47:59   than many Americans yep everything was [TS]

01:48:03   extremely clean with the exception of [TS]

01:48:04   the exhaust that we talked about earlier [TS]

01:48:06   and that wasn't a good that was a smell [TS]

01:48:08   issue not a not a visual issue [TS]

01:48:10   everything was unbelievably clean the [TS]

01:48:13   hofbrau house in Munich it's one of the [TS]

01:48:15   beer gardens probably most famous beer [TS]

01:48:17   garden in munich even as a non beer [TS]

01:48:19   drinker that was unbelievably fun and [TS]

01:48:21   cool and Indian whose need to meet [TS]

01:48:22   people from all different countries and [TS]

01:48:24   in walks of life there i mean i really [TS]

01:48:27   had an unbelievable time and I would [TS]

01:48:29   absolutely go back and I can't agree [TS]

01:48:31   more with Marco that if you have [TS]

01:48:33   the means i highly suggest trying it is [TS]

01:48:35   unbelievably fund and you know it's for [TS]

01:48:39   an American as you said it's it's an [TS]

01:48:40   easy place to go because English is so [TS]

01:48:43   widely spoken and you can get along with [TS]

01:48:47   knowing almost no German at all and you [TS]

01:48:50   know you can you can learn you'll pick [TS]

01:48:51   up a few phrases or a few words like [TS]

01:48:54   from road signs and stuff but you know [TS]

01:48:56   you can you can get around without it [TS]

01:48:57   and and I mean the foot we we didn't [TS]

01:49:01   have I don't think we had a single bad [TS]

01:49:02   meal we were there and definitely that [TS]

01:49:05   an inmate in a wide variety of like [TS]

01:49:07   hotels and restaurants and and different [TS]

01:49:10   places [TS]

01:49:12   the food is just really incredibly good [TS]

01:49:15   and you know like II think now like [TS]

01:49:19   today i bought a bag of pretzels and and [TS]

01:49:22   I know it's because I'm I'm trying so [TS]

01:49:24   hard to recreate one aspect of the food [TS]

01:49:27   that I like so much their actions the [TS]

01:49:28   breakfast pretzel chat which you can't [TS]

01:49:32   find these in the u.s. that you just [TS]

01:49:33   can't find a pretzel that good but like [TS]

01:49:36   you know no one in the US ever is like [TS]

01:49:38   Oh what kind of food you want tonight [TS]

01:49:40   italian mexican how about German I know [TS]

01:49:42   I never no one ever thinks of that is [TS]

01:49:44   like one of the one of the common [TS]

01:49:46   restaurant ethnicity targets 222 want if [TS]

01:49:50   you're going out for dinner but but man [TS]

01:49:53   it's really good and I think it's a [TS]

01:49:54   shame that we don't have more german [TS]

01:49:56   food coming over here and being served [TS]

01:49:58   here because it is just so good and that [TS]

01:50:02   was a yes so food is great that people [TS]

01:50:04   were great everyone's in there so friend [TS]

01:50:06   extracting the gentleman at the coffee [TS]

01:50:08   shop the the four of us were theorizing [TS]

01:50:10   about things to do i think this was our [TS]

01:50:12   first stator sunday and there was a [TS]

01:50:15   gentleman that was sitting seated at the [TS]

01:50:17   table next to us who was and i would say [TS]

01:50:20   eavesdropping by any stretch it's just [TS]

01:50:21   we were within three feet of him so he [TS]

01:50:23   couldn't have not listened and so we [TS]

01:50:25   were talking about what you what should [TS]

01:50:26   we do tomorrow when he took it upon [TS]

01:50:28   himself in the most polite and kind way [TS]

01:50:30   possible to have like a 20-minute [TS]

01:50:32   conversation with us about what we [TS]

01:50:34   should do and oh this is going to be [TS]

01:50:35   closed but this isn't and man I bet [TS]

01:50:37   you'd really like this in my god it was [TS]

01:50:40   so fantastic and everyone we met was [TS]

01:50:42   like that they were all so nice and so [TS]

01:50:44   helpful it was really great [TS]

01:50:46   like it wasn't it none of these were [TS]

01:50:47   isolated incidents like everybody was [TS]

01:50:50   this good [TS]

01:50:51   all the all the roads were this good all [TS]

01:50:54   the drivers with this good all the food [TS]

01:50:56   was this good [TS]

01:50:57   all the hotels like I mean it was just a [TS]

01:51:00   fantastic trip and again we can't [TS]

01:51:02   recommend highly enough so Johnny coming [TS]

01:51:06   next time maybe if you teleport me all [TS]

01:51:11   the plane wasn't that bad i don't think [TS]

01:51:12   i would mind being in Germany all the [TS]

01:51:15   plane was a glowing recommendation he [TS]

01:51:17   has don't think i would mind being there [TS]

01:51:19   at the traveling there and the traveling [TS]

01:51:23   back it was a what it was a direct [TS]

01:51:26   flight it's no different than ella era [TS]

01:51:27   this story about la it's no different [TS]

01:51:29   than san francis and the way they're [TS]

01:51:30   using long are you supposed to sleep the [TS]

01:51:32   whole time I'm telling you John you can [TS]

01:51:34   do it it's worth it [TS]

01:51:35   what will argue will argue about it over [TS]

01:51:37   the next three years until the lease is [TS]

01:51:39   up man [TS]

01:51:43   I guess we should probably wrap it up is [TS]

01:51:45   that it think that's it I mean I don't [TS]

01:51:48   you have any closing remarks [TS]

01:51:49   John I don't think so unless you want to [TS]

01:51:54   explain why were why this is the last [TS]

01:51:57   episode for now [TS]

01:51:58   well you know we we had started this out [TS]

01:52:02   as we call it a podcast miniseries and [TS]

01:52:06   you know we John had both recently done [TS]

01:52:10   our respective shows a five-by-five and [TS]

01:52:12   they had each gone for a while his 14 [TS]

01:52:15   exactly a hundred episodes moment for [TS]

01:52:16   like a hundred and eight so we just got [TS]

01:52:20   his long-running shows and one of the [TS]

01:52:22   reasons why I stopped my show at five by [TS]

01:52:25   five was because I was you I felt it was [TS]

01:52:29   getting too repetitive and I was running [TS]

01:52:31   out of like original topics to talk [TS]

01:52:34   about an original things to say and and [TS]

01:52:36   I just needed a break from it and I [TS]

01:52:41   didn't want to start up a car show that [TS]

01:52:43   was going to go on for two years and be [TS]

01:52:46   about just all the news of the day you [TS]

01:52:48   know like I I didn't want to get myself [TS]

01:52:50   for you guys into that and because it's [TS]

01:52:53   just so it's just a very big commitment [TS]

01:52:56   and [TS]

01:52:57   and we didn't want to be that kind of [TS]

01:52:59   show we're just talking about news [TS]

01:53:01   because none of us as has the the [TS]

01:53:06   feedback emails and itunes reviews have [TS]

01:53:09   often suggested none of us are experts [TS]

01:53:13   enough to really have a car news show of [TS]

01:53:16   much interest of people so we wanted to [TS]

01:53:19   just like a general fun thing and we [TS]

01:53:21   wanted to go into it from the beginning [TS]

01:53:22   as like a a short like a limited-run [TS]

01:53:26   concept of we aren't starting up to go [TS]

01:53:29   indefinitely we start we're starting up [TS]

01:53:31   to go X episodes and then you know we'll [TS]

01:53:34   see what happens then we'll probably end [TS]

01:53:36   it and so the original number we gave [TS]

01:53:38   was eight and then roughly it like [TS]

01:53:40   episode six or seven we decided you know [TS]

01:53:43   what we still have a lot more to say [TS]

01:53:44   let's bump it forward a little bit more [TS]

01:53:46   but we could see like the end was in [TS]

01:53:48   sight and so this is now episode 12 we [TS]

01:53:53   decided back in episode 10 we decided [TS]

01:53:56   roughly to end it here and I think this [TS]

01:53:58   is good because I think we covered all [TS]

01:54:02   of the major general purpose topics we [TS]

01:54:04   wanted to cover is that is that fair to [TS]

01:54:05   say i think so I mean I think it's funny [TS]

01:54:09   because I was sort of kind of the [TS]

01:54:11   self-appointed topic maven guru dictator [TS]

01:54:15   guy and obviously we all contributed [TS]

01:54:17   topics here and there but I've kept a [TS]

01:54:19   list and i still have a list of topics [TS]

01:54:21   to talk about but it's things that [TS]

01:54:23   nobody wants to listen to like hey let's [TS]

01:54:24   discuss what our favorite top gear [TS]

01:54:26   episodes are in an equally boring things [TS]

01:54:28   like that and materials dream I had [TS]

01:54:31   yeah exactly and last two or three [TS]

01:54:32   episodes I've why we've all gotten on [TS]

01:54:35   skype together and i have not had any [TS]

01:54:38   particular agenda or arc or anything to [TS]

01:54:40   talk about and we've been walking off [TS]

01:54:42   that between the three of us [TS]

01:54:43   somebody's been able to come up with [TS]

01:54:45   something worth talking about but just [TS]

01:54:46   like you said market we don't know we [TS]

01:54:48   want to beat the horse that may already [TS]

01:54:49   have been dead before we even started [TS]

01:54:51   the podcast exact we don't want we don't [TS]

01:54:54   beat it any further in that I can only [TS]

01:54:56   speak for myself but I've had a really [TS]

01:54:57   wonderful time in the listeners by and [TS]

01:54:59   large although they're there are many [TS]

01:55:00   that point out how ignorant we are [TS]

01:55:02   that's frankly pretty well we love them [TS]

01:55:04   we love them too but all of the [TS]

01:55:07   listeners I [TS]

01:55:08   I know we really appreciated when and by [TS]

01:55:10   and large we've gotten a lot of [TS]

01:55:12   unbelievably positive and welcome [TS]

01:55:14   feedback and and I think every single [TS]

01:55:15   one of you for dealing dealing with me [TS]

01:55:19   and everyone else for however many hours [TS]

01:55:20   the shows run [TS]

01:55:21   yeah I think maybe we weren't clear [TS]

01:55:23   enough that it was going to be limited [TS]

01:55:24   run because now that people are knowing [TS]

01:55:25   this is ending we're getting the people [TS]

01:55:27   coming out of the woodworks I know you [TS]

01:55:29   don't stop the show is my favorite [TS]

01:55:31   podcast over it you know like we said it [TS]

01:55:33   but like i said in all the introductory [TS]

01:55:35   blog post i always said a miniseries but [TS]

01:55:38   they didn't know was never in the audio [TS]

01:55:40   of the show that's where it had to be [TS]

01:55:41   right people to I mean maybe it did we [TS]

01:55:43   ever mentioned you want to I don't even [TS]

01:55:45   know I don't think so [TS]

01:55:46   it was so prominent all of our minds and [TS]

01:55:47   I was on the website and everything that [TS]

01:55:49   it just seems we just assumed everybody [TS]

01:55:50   knew but clearly not so if you're [TS]

01:55:52   finding out now surprise sorry [TS]

01:55:54   yeah and that's it [TS]

01:56:01   let's get a real career something that [TS]

01:56:03   probably if you want to use naturally [TS]

01:56:05   that we should God for such amateurs i [TS]

01:56:09   love it that's the test it but I didn't [TS]

01:56:11   see the review recently there was like [TS]

01:56:13   it does no intro and no outro like this [TS]

01:56:16   the car door [TS]

01:56:17   why does no one hear the car there's a [TS]

01:56:19   card or deafness bringing down podcast [TS]

01:56:23   it's a car i thought that was so clever [TS]

01:56:25   when I heard the Carpenters episode no [TS]

01:56:27   one gets area they're completely [TS]

01:56:28   inaudible to everyone else [TS]