The Talk Show

41: See You on Larry`s Island


  I'm gonna play they've been working lately and when I got a lot of work on [TS]

  causing the fire I was going to guess that they have the same goes I have been [TS]

  butchering lady holes in the fire got a lot of coals in the fire lane if you [TS]

  have some understanding in insisting that the term is unique causing a fire [TS]

  so that you can put iron irons in there i think thats blacksmith thing or it [TS]

  could just be I don't know what you think that's the buxman thing right [TS]

  right but that doesn't make any sense to me that I'm trying to say is I'm working [TS]

  on multiple projects but it seems to me that just put in a lot more calls in [TS]

  here fire doesn't necessarily imply I know you're out you're absolutely saying [TS]

  it wrong [TS]

  irons in the fire we did and at the risk of making it seem like you work for a [TS]

  circus I think you might see a lot of balls in the air [TS]

  scenario maybe it's better to better really is a little bit more like a lot [TS]

  of balls on the ground all over the place [TS]

  okay that's a good when I heard one time my friend we're working at the dot-com [TS]

  right before the final implosion he said they're still in the stock market he [TS]

  said there's still a lot of grenades rolling around have always liked that [TS]

  one who had his baby got a lot of you know maybe get some grenades thrown [TS]

  around and maybe maybe you'll kick him out the door I don't know I can always [TS]

  tell like a lot of people I can tell when you're posting via mobile [TS]

  as you say but no you're you're you're putting less likely say seem that you [TS]

  have some goals and I know what you we don't talk enough but I assume you have [TS]

  colds or grenades [TS]

  you can talk about it for you I i calls you could sit out tha well you know I'm [TS]

  a student I can figure things out [TS]

  yeah yeah yeah you got less of the four-star posts lately I figure that's [TS]

  you know and into care but that's exciting this is that this is exciting [TS]

  goals plausible deniability [TS]

  but possibly exciting that I am calls and I don't know more when it's when [TS]

  it's time to review your goals you know I can I can do I can announce because [TS]

  the show hasn't while we're recording this is not been announced but by the [TS]

  time the show airs gonna do wanna do a live show at the WBC again wow at the [TS]

  event [TS]

  yeah well now I now like last year to be you know it's not a officially [TS]

  sanctioned it would be incidental with WWDC life into a lot of your life shows [TS]

  during the BBC but it's usually in that one bar did it the one time at 1:11 [TS]

  Minna no I didn't say it was recorded I just think that's a lot of hot wings in [TS]

  that place becomes lighters that's exciting now are you in a position to [TS]

  say when when that'll be in who will be visiting with you it's going to be on [TS]

  Tuesday I believe whatever the day of the month is in general is that what's [TS]

  it gonna be [TS]

  Tuesday Tuesday that the 11th Tuesday June 11 tickets there's you gotta have [TS]

  to go to a certain thing to go and take a taxi by the time you hear this the [TS]

  tickets will probably be gone but maybe not maybe you should go check you can go [TS]

  sure that by now there's a weird thing that probably announce it on [TS]

  i've a web site called during fireball if probably announced that they're [TS]

  linked to the place where you'll go to get the tickets and then you could go [TS]

  and and I would I did a really great time last year [TS]

  meeting the couple hundred fans of the show well i heard I first [TS]

  congratulations on selling out I also heard that a lot of people were [TS]

  disappointed that they couldn't get tickets and at the website was kind of [TS]

  unresponsive which I understand as you said briefly was not your fault for my [TS]

  shower for WBC that's awesome dean of the venue at a place called mezzanine [TS]

  SFA ever been there never been so it should be a little bigger than last year [TS]

  should have more seating than last year but it will still having an open bar [TS]

  like last year that's that's wow how great is it a this we have a couple [TS]

  sponsors for the show but we have a headline like a mainline event sponsor a [TS]

  big yea big ticket sponsor gonna be Microsoft's Azure web services mobile [TS]

  web services how great said gonna be to have a bunch of WBC nerds drinking on [TS]

  the gates is done it's coming right at the Gates Foundation you you're taking [TS]

  algebra straight out of children's mouths as if it were the flu shots were [TS]

  to what it was the Gates Foundation to the new flu shots right whether it's a [TS]

  malaria polio [TS]

  i think is new is on polio now that we know that you know what we did but we [TS]

  didn't hundred-percent eradicated and as his debts like he's been making the [TS]

  rounds and then you know god bless and guide you know I really do think he's [TS]

  doing great work on this front but it's that he's making the case that you [TS]

  really have to get to a hundred percent 99.9% eradication isn't good enough [TS]

  because you know twenty thirty years later all of a sudden you get these [TS]

  little many outbreaks like a parent lead you know it's heartbreaking but it does [TS]

  seem like there's more kids with polio right now than there were you know since [TS]

  jonas salk invented the [TS]

  the vaccine because there's more people get well I don't know and I guess [TS]

  because you know not every you know these idiots vaccinated and stuff like [TS]

  infographic which ones that you know I don't think so you know it started out [TS]

  saying graphic somebody didn't you know if a graphic and five bucks a good cup [TS]

  of coffee but it was a big bubble graphs to do they did it to do basically life [TS]

  before and after vaccines and liked what he really meant and you know this is [TS]

  breastfeeding and circumcision you know I guess so you know it's a little bit [TS]

  more [TS]

  side to side a inside be really don't hold equal weight I don't have the same [TS]

  thing really gets to me I told i 100% agree with you when I was a kid you know [TS]

  my grandparents I i cant say that I recall any times are they SAT me down [TS]

  and told me you know that afternoon should be all about you know here's what [TS]

  life was like you know when I was your age at the turn of the last century i [TS]

  mean my grand my dad's dad was born in 1903 or something like that but I knew [TS]

  enough though that like having been born in like nineteen 0322 like have lived to [TS]

  be a grandfather in like the nineteen seventies with a bunch of grandkids and [TS]

  stuff that he he he died the lot of grenades you like people he knew got [TS]

  shot up in World Wars people got just walking down the street just pick up [TS]

  some polio and then next thing you know you know your legs don't work and that's [TS]

  you know that's the sort of thing that happened well yeah and also my [TS]

  grandmother was was one of the many people of her three siblings one of them [TS]

  died from the flu the flu epidemic when it went to one is going around but it [TS]

  also you get this this this craziness I think it was polio while sucking my [TS]

  wonderful mother lie about this and the time when I'm gonna get this wrong but [TS]

  it's a long lines it that they knew polly was a thing they knew there was [TS]

  really bad news but it was still I think someone someone or very unclear like how [TS]

  people got it [TS]

  and so you would just like to keep your kids in the house I guessed it was sort [TS]

  of maybe like the early days of aids like he didn't know there's a timely the [TS]

  people thought you got aids from you know I'm nitrates so you know in the [TS]

  early days of that stuff it's so frightening but your point yet during [TS]

  the depression for a variety of reasons or really anytime before this era were [TS]

  talking about you just have kids die and you just see the kids the kids and it's [TS]

  you know as somebody who had the opportunity our parents and grandparents [TS]

  had the opportunity to have their kids night have to deal with that sort of [TS]

  strange to look back at ya you know and I don't you know it shouldn't be [TS]

  political ads you know any sort of thing that should have united everybody but [TS]

  there is this you know like after world war two at the fifties sixties there is [TS]

  this just a sense that you know each time we click a decade forward we're [TS]

  gonna make great progress I'm gonna beat things like polio and and it was [TS]

  something to celebrate its like hey we beat this terrible thing that that's [TS]

  been [TS]

  you know crippling us for decades and there was a celebration and everybody [TS]

  you know ran out and did it and it's like people just what goes through [TS]

  people's minds today I don't know what they think the world would be like [TS]

  without vaccination a post you a link post you had I'm gonna have two guests [TS]

  2008 2008 2008 but it was you cited a statistic that's maybe you remember the [TS]

  something like 25 percent of Americans long after he had been conclusively [TS]

  shown 22 baap urban myth or whatever that's only like 25 percent of americans [TS]

  still thought that Obama was not qualified to be president that he was [TS]

  like not american I don't know it's ridiculous the number but it was at the [TS]

  time you posted that it was it was at that time was like guys is there's [TS]

  nothing else to can be proven here to anybody who's not bananas it this is a [TS]

  thing it's your but you know but that's you know that's how it is I mean there [TS]

  there are always going to be people who are the most common that book that book [TS]

  don't think of an elephant there are there are people who have we all do we [TS]

  all have a frame of reference for understanding the world and there are [TS]

  certain people who use different kinds of information and to be honest gut [TS]

  feelings about how things go to a very emotional responses to things we we all [TS]

  have this but you know and and in that instance there's no amount of evidence [TS]

  that will convince people that that is incorrect because it's so closely [TS]

  comports with the frame of reference about how things really are and I think [TS]

  something really ties in to the way I think television in particular [TS]

  legitimizes anything that any vintage on TV's carries a legitimacy that isn't [TS]

  really wanted but it somehow it psychologically is and and famously I [TS]

  don't know if it was the Oprah show I think I might have been the Oprah show [TS]

  but it's the one on the vaccinations and Jenny McCarthy's then they brought out [TS]

  the actual science guy actually made like [TS]

  Carl Sagan style look I know this stuff like you know world literally one of [TS]

  them may be the top minds in the world [TS]

  vaccination medicine and and laid it out beautifully in layman's terms that there [TS]

  is absolutely zero scientific evidence that vaccinations lead to autism is no [TS]

  evidence and you know any more than he just said that he made the case he [TS]

  showed that there is no evidence and told about the studies that showed this [TS]

  and how the studies worked in that there's not even a dispute about it in [TS]

  the scientific terms this isn't even a dispute and Attorney Jenny McCarthy and [TS]

  she says well my son is my evidence was your son has autism is probably the last [TS]

  name for what she did that sounds like a return trip will end and you know I'm [TS]

  not a vaccine expert but it's my understanding puts it in your mind if [TS]

  your home and your your kid you love your kid right but it didn t drawn-out [TS]

  didn't know British Medical Society or whatever drum out the guy who's various [TS]

  study last year was the was the nominee all use this off I mean there is one [TS]

  thing that came out in England that was interesting about that in the back of [TS]

  the frame of reference thing because if it applies to everything from how people [TS]

  think about their inbox to have people think about Apple from my apple computer [TS]

  is that people is I think people come kind of preloaded any bit of cultural [TS]

  heritage cultural warfare but any kind of cultural opposition you know first of [TS]

  all let's just say we're all expected to pick a side about everything whatever [TS]

  but there are certain people who come out that with a certain point of you who [TS]

  are let's just say charitably going to cherry pick evidence to support their [TS]

  point of view and again that's probably something we all do but it's the part of [TS]

  it that I think a little bit lamentable is that it's one thing to say well I got [TS]

  said it I believe it that settles it like there's a certain that you that I [TS]

  you know I don't agree with that but I can respect that [TS]

  but when it comes to things we're like we have the evidence for this but no no [TS]

  no [TS]

  as long as you're going through all this quote unquote science at me let me point [TS]

  at this study I heard about third-hand that disagrees with that so they feel [TS]

  like I think in that instance they feel they have more than enough basis to back [TS]

  up their emotion they didn't start out with the data I mean how many people [TS]

  even go out and read the abstract for something that not Gladwell's crying [TS]

  about to start it but through reading books actually this is stupid but I [TS]

  think you know we all do that we all look for evidence to support our own [TS]

  point of view and then get more and more sort of dug-in about it but I think I [TS]

  mentioned this a few weeks ago to there's also this this weird unfortunate [TS]

  aspect of human psychology where we forget the term but it's a loss [TS]

  avoidance that that you feel if I give you a dollar to hear there's a dollar [TS]

  and then I tossed a coin and comes up tails and they say well you lost I give [TS]

  me the dollar back you feel worse than if I tossed the coin first and it comes [TS]

  up tails and I say if it came up heads I have given you a dollar it's the exact [TS]

  same math right there is you know you've got a 50 percent chance of gaining a [TS]

  dollar in this incident but that you had in your hand and I took it away makes [TS]

  you feel wares and the way it plays into the vaccination things they do recycle [TS]

  polls that somebody did where they they like Paul parents and said I might get [TS]

  the numbers wrong here but more or less [TS]

  let's say there's a disease that there's one in a thousand chance that your child [TS]

  will get and if your child gets it it'll be fit but there's a vaccine that will [TS]

  make sure your child doesn't get it but if you give your child the vaccine [TS]

  there's one in 10,000 chance that the vaccine ok [TS]

  right if you just you know if you even just play the basic odds I mean if [TS]

  you're if your kid if your kid this is the support that you know if your kid [TS]

  swallow something and you're not sure if it's poison you know you probably call [TS]

  911 for the sake of argument you know what are the chances of that kid being [TS]

  really sick from poison forces were the chances that kid dying in an automobile [TS]

  accident on the way there's risk to everything you know what i mean it's [TS]

  like you don't have to wait you have to weigh all that do you weigh the risk of [TS]

  you know of a flying in a plane somewhere or of you know again so many [TS]

  things that are you know turns out culture so many things that are good for [TS]

  us and then back for a few member you member in the nineties when it was all [TS]

  about avoiding fat and say you go out and buy a snack box a snack wells you [TS]

  know which is basically like eating a bag of flour is just a green box green [TS]

  course it was really really way ahead of its time in the senate low-fat you oh [TS]

  great like I can eat like ninety of these you know or be honest we do know [TS]

  what's your position of plastic in the market are you dealing with this weird [TS]

  idea I'm dealing heavily with this in my household you know i i i do feel like [TS]

  why take a chance so we've actually you know I don't think we rushed out and and [TS]

  you know like immediately banned all plastic in the microwave but we while I [TS]

  say we it was really a me and i dont older stuff like this which we recently [TS]

  ordered like new all the stuff that you put leftovers in and then put it in the [TS]

  fridge we got this news [TS]

  dog last now only take something out of the fridge when heated up you already in [TS]

  like little glass things you don't have to put a clean it you know i mean when [TS]

  they make when they make a a class apart bag I'll start rethinking this if I [TS]

  can't put if I can't put saran wrap on a bowl of vegetables like a gentleman I'm [TS]

  not sure I want to live anymore [TS]

  he wanted to I don't really microwave alot of stuff cuz 'cause your right to [TS]

  say no you get a local shopping at Whole Foods there to get you get everything [TS]

  artists and and and then you you cook it [TS]

  steamer that involved in the preparation of a lot of meals now I really don't [TS]

  know where I just wake up they drink fizzy water and coffee all day long and [TS]

  then added you know someday at some point when the Sun Goes Down my blood [TS]

  sugars is in desperate situation and I'm ready to pass out and then provides me [TS]

  with the night and sweet as I'm sure you have at some point we eventually each [TS]

  have interventions in our life I think one of the things I'll be forced to [TS]

  confront is the most of my day is built around which beverage i'm having like [TS]

  you don't even need a clock exactly how might I think the way you and I get [TS]

  along so yeah thanks a lot a lot of caffeine in the waking hours and then [TS]

  and then there's a long stretch in the middle filled with lots over carbonated [TS]

  water and then in the evening as you know some yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah and I [TS]

  think as long as you keep those you know I it's sort of like the writer you got [TS]

  the you know you want to try and minimize the number of fats or whatever [TS]

  you know you got fats carbohydrates [TS]

  fats carbohydrates what's the other one and only food trying to say as long as [TS]

  you can keep the alcohol to less than a third of your waking hours I think even [TS]

  the FDA would say you're on the right track when you get to half of your day [TS]

  even at let's be honest even if its stagger through the day you can't start [TS]

  with it a little bit sheet or just an all-star with a lot like an Irish coffee [TS]

  in the morning of the amazing argue about that helped us your local families [TS]

  out of the house right I might be so mad at me on on st. Patrick's Day because [TS]

  she wanted an Irish coffee and we do I mean when I don't they have a gigantic [TS]

  liquor Collection in the house but it's not in any given time it's a [TS]

  well-stocked bar but we do not we did not have any Irish whiskey and and I [TS]

  said well you could just you know you can make an Irish coffee with bourbon [TS]

  and it was as though I told her you know I don't know you could make wine out of [TS]

  cherries or something like the way some people are about martinis in vodka [TS]

  invention would say that it's absolutely not a martini it as a separate separate [TS]

  Cocteau that's how to how to resolve that did you did you did you go out to [TS]

  give fuller [TS]

  clicking noise and just for Scotch in there with what you do and I don't think [TS]

  I'm gonna get a Sunday this year we were out of town at the time and so we missed [TS]

  it it was a Sunday it was a Sunday so you and Pennsylvania's no booze on [TS]

  Sundays town though there are they lightened up a little bit more now [TS]

  there's most of the liquor stores they're all state-run but most are not [TS]

  open at all on Sundays there is at least one within walking distance but my [TS]

  wife's from Rhode Island and you know there's a little islands of different [TS]

  laws in New England it's it's very weird but I mean it seems strange to me that [TS]

  you know they would do this in highschool you know when she was a kid [TS]

  you can't liquor [TS]

  like little dry islands [TS]

  but she did you know you could drive over the next town like five minutes in [TS]

  there's a liquor store like right by the county line or the city line or whatever [TS]

  the seams it seems so odd it's in our neighborhood like New Years Eve you know [TS]

  people who don't drink often like you know like I New Years Eve every [TS]

  everybody thinks they're great drunk driver nobody can get drunk right and so [TS]

  everybody in our neighborhood which is a lot of ways people don't know their [TS]

  limits and pretty much our entire neighborhood is puking on on st. [TS]

  Patrick's Day which is a shame because I'm largely Irish and I think that's [TS]

  something you learn you know get a warm up you know you gotta keep going to [TS]

  practice you know Mariano Rivera didn't get good but just showing up and only [TS]

  got good by drinking she totally totally out now it's gone as he's he's going out [TS]

  right yes i guess i mean i recover from that really he he had a horrible bizarre [TS]

  freak knee injury last year you know in April and it was only did only shown up [TS]

  in nine games you know what I don't you call that thing but it is not the ACL [TS]

  but it's it's it's that is there anything you don't want to hurt ruptured [TS]

  practice and he wasn't doing anything like he's turned wrong or something what [TS]

  he does he's a pitcher but he's always done his whole career is before games [TS]

  it's called shagging flies where he's out in the outfield and a guy you know [TS]

  at home plate as is taking batting practice just hitting real deep fly [TS]

  balls all the way from home plate out to the outfield wall and he run you know [TS]

  runs out to them and catches him and he was just running after a deep fly ball [TS]

  and just took like a funny step on the [TS]

  there's always a warning track before the walls you know like the grass right [TS]

  well it's like maybe like a 10 foot wide patch of dirt or something around the [TS]

  walls so if you're an outfielder running toward the wall and all you have to do [TS]

  is no I'm not on grass anymore so I know I'm near the law took one step on it [TS]

  just like a look funny stuff and just snapped ligament or tendon whatever it [TS]

  is in his name so he was out you know how to have that surgically repaired is [TS]

  43 years old and and a parent you know the idea of what you know he didn't say [TS]

  officially but everybody seems to think that last year he was planning to be his [TS]

  last year and and he just didn't want to go down you know go out like that so he [TS]

  did all the work to rehab is back this year and he's amazing he's 43 years old [TS]

  complete ligament tear in his need a year ago and at this point he's appeared [TS]

  in 16 games and 16 saves well raised as a relief pitcher does it matter it [TS]

  doesn't like around two which is that's insane he says there's like maybe three [TS]

  people in sports in the last 10 years that I would sit around and watch and [TS]

  he's one of them a place that video opposes [TS]

  track is breaking pitch yeah it's it's it's hard to be a grown up and then [TS]

  realize how many things around all day right we we we pick up our day by [TS]

  beverage would push to the internet and then we don't think that much about how [TS]

  really close we are to basically being ruined all the time you know we go out [TS]

  and stand by a street where cars are going by you know forty or sixty miles [TS]

  an hour I get on this multi-time train that's being driven by a crazy person [TS]

  and I don't think about like how closely I'm dying all the time and in that [TS]

  instance of what could be more like a freak accident and that guy's [TS]

  admittedly as you say he's he's not a young man but still you know he needs [TS]

  every part of his body to be working to do what he does [TS]

  is amazing and it's one of those things right now that you know I post stuff [TS]

  occasionally to my website and a lot of people during fire ball as it is but the [TS]

  Mariana Rivera stuff I often when I do I often getting mail from people who like [TS]

  say I don't even know the rules of baseball but that's amazing that thing [TS]

  that letting last year with the New York Times had the thing that tracked his [TS]

  pitches was given our good friend guy English who lives in Montreal and said I [TS]

  get don't even hardly even know the rules of baseball but he was like that [TS]

  was amazing [TS]

  well i i think that sports team might have played our sports team in an [TS]

  important event a few years ago one of the local sports teams play the Yankees [TS]

  sports team and we watched it and it was my first exposure to that guy and I have [TS]

  no allegiance to anything in sports apart from enjoying it but watching that [TS]

  guy pitch what it's like wats rush like yitzhak pearlman or something [TS]

  wearing a month you're just sitting there and you going how how is this [TS]

  happening and I mention this on punt on the back to work for him [TS]

  couple shows ago but like the thing i really admire about that guy is how [TS]

  steely he is a seemingly unknown but he can't be unhinged serene yeah I guess so [TS]

  but like yeah that's a good word for it he is really the sort of guy but there [TS]

  is something almost mystical about him he has a serenity to him that is [TS]

  inspiring honestly he's just very different there is something very very [TS]

  different about him and he can he can come up there and just throw impossible [TS]

  pitch after impossible pitch and then finally somebody hits it impossible to [TS]

  reach and gets gets like a two-run homer and then he goes straight back to [TS]

  throwing impossible pitches and that to me is a model that if if I could one [TS]

  pattern of grit to my life it would be the ability to do that instead of [TS]

  sitting and crying like a little girl when the slightest thing goes wrong that [TS]

  you know what I mean like that's it is it is inspiration both family involved [TS]

  but like to me that that's the thing is to look at somebody like that there's [TS]

  nothing to say about Tiger Woods is a golfer they used to say [TS]

  you know that you don't start you don't practice less when you become a pro you [TS]

  practice more and I don't know I think it's inspiring yeah and he's weird thing [TS]

  too is that he plays the position is for those who don't follow baseball it's [TS]

  fairly easy concept as you know your picture and most pitches you think of [TS]

  the guys is the guy who starts the game and you first inning you're you're the [TS]

  picture in your pitch until your arm gets tired and then other guys come in [TS]

  this like this like a pretty average issue number like they'll start with 60 [TS]

  pitches like you to certain that you go wow this guy still in there and he's [TS]

  throwing this many pitches yeah like sixty seventy is when you start thinking [TS]

  let's keep an eye on that he's really on the right side of the curve at that [TS]

  point and then a hundred is generally considered in the modern game is [TS]

  considered a lot the old days they would fit into their arms fell off and then [TS]

  you know but in general the starting pitchers of the best pitchers and then [TS]

  the relief pitchers are guys who were good but really good in small doses or a [TS]

  really good in particular situations like this guy gets out left-handers and [TS]

  you just bring them in [TS]

  against a left-handed guy and then you take amounted to much more defensive [TS]

  kind of pitching in some ways ya situational i think is you know in the [TS]

  modern game is that you bring in these guys for certain situations but then you [TS]

  get all the way to the end of the pitching staff and almost every team has [TS]

  a guy that they called the closer and thats Mariano Rivera and that's a guy [TS]

  who you only bring in when you have a lead and it's a small lead because if [TS]

  it's a big lead you don't bother wasting them because you don't want to be too [TS]

  tired for the next day but I forget that there's a stat called the save and I [TS]

  think the save is if you can only get a save as a picture if the tying run comes [TS]

  to the on-deck circle of the tying run is going to come up next [TS]

  you can get a save so it's gotta be you know to three runs or something like [TS]

  that it's it's stupid stat really but in other words though you only come in in [TS]

  the ninth inning the last inning in a game where your team has a narrow lead [TS]

  so every inning that the guy pitches in general I mean every once in a while if [TS]

  he goes like a week without coming in [TS]

  there wasn't a save situation to bring them in because it you know they don't [TS]

  want to go a week without ever throwing but in general the closer only comes in [TS]

  in a high-pressure situation and the only other suitcase when you bring her [TS]

  closer and would be at home in a tie game so any gamer your team as a narrow [TS]

  lead in the last inning or a or a tie in the in home game is when you come in and [TS]

  so it tends to the home team you would give one more appt right so it's you [TS]

  know any kind of professional sports is obviously a lot of pressure involved in [TS]

  the thousands of fans and and all this attention and stuff like that and I'm [TS]

  not saying if you're a starting pitcher and it's the third inning of just one of [TS]

  a hundred and sixty two games in May [TS]

  you know in this season and it's a middle of May and a long season ahead of [TS]

  you that you know that the third inning of any one particular game isn't high [TS]

  pressure but you know come on baseball's a little you know where is the closer is [TS]

  always high pressure and so it tends to attract personalities like what's his [TS]

  name out there in your town the beard that appeared I don't know these [TS]

  nationally guys but you know i mean these guys who are eccentrics guys who [TS]

  are very very high strung you know wild characters and they don't tend to last [TS]

  very long and it tends to be guys who can throw the ball exceedingly hard and [TS]

  fast and then you know they burn out because it's such a high-pressure [TS]

  situation Mariano Rivera's been doing it for sixteen or seventeen years which is [TS]

  just it's just unprecedented like being I don't know like like you know the bomb [TS]

  squad or something especially today and thanks for getting me into my area of [TS]

  expertise which sports bra but you're right into it thank you thank you can we [TS]

  get back to vaccines after this by the way breastfeeding terrible idea [TS]

  you guys I read a thing turns out formula actually formula and putting [TS]

  your child into a dryer literally the dryer at your home put it in there don't [TS]

  turn it on and leave a crack in it but just given formula we find this is [TS]

  apparently especially true it's true in baseball is true everything I hear is [TS]

  that it's extremely true football is getting bigger faster than getting [TS]

  better better trained and you have to be more why are we talking about you have [TS]

  to be so much more [TS]

  really truly athletic then look at babe ruth i mean babe ruth babe ruth wouldn't [TS]

  be able to survive a whole game handing out peanuts today you know he's you know [TS]

  a slugger as they say in another slugger always connote [TS]

  you also strike out a lot that you also in in the sense that you you if you hit [TS]

  your gonna hit real far it doesn't always connote that I think average [TS]

  would be the amount of times that you're able two counts as it was a home run [TS]

  know it's the number of bases you get out of it so in other words I guess [TS]

  loggerheads more double not just home runs but doubles and triples but I mean [TS]

  the athleticism being being a football player today you know the the escalating [TS]

  changes in the technology and the training and all of that stuff you know [TS]

  it's it's also to some extent room baseball where as you say you would have [TS]

  temperance baseballs fifteen hit but Christie Christie Brinkley with a with a [TS]

  baseball player Christy Turlington [TS]

  Christy Turlington or or goose Gossage or Rollie Fingers anyway you could be [TS]

  somebody right mustache man he was the Rolaids relief man of the year [TS]

  memories remember that were kids yeah yeah I do responsibly Rolaids Christy [TS]

  Mathewson guy I love PBS and baseball but 1889 I'm sure I'm going with this [TS]

  except that that but today it seems like it must be it always seemed so I [TS]

  actually did hear this one time was waiting for a hot dog and everything I [TS]

  know about TV basically comes from tumblr and where I get my hot dog [TS]

  and they said Safi said something like described one of the people playing the [TS]

  game as being being extremely athletic and that's it still bothers me but you [TS]

  know athleticism obviously it's more than just simply being an athlete and is [TS]

  why it is so funny to even to even win I guess Utoya where we were kids we want [TS]

  you back you watch one of the things I can still has this place to buy this and [TS]

  they'll be like old games you could watch on iTunes here i mean like I went [TS]

  and bought the Reds vs the Red Sox 75 World Series game I think it what time [TS]

  you going by the monomer Reggie Jackson hit 40 home runs or whatever in that one [TS]

  game but it's so strange to see what those people look like you remember [TS]

  fernando valenzuela yep or was it someone Letterman used to make fun was a [TS]

  film niekro is warning that I mean the kind of the compound sir you know that [TS]

  valenzuela guy who can cut your lawn he was short he was he was pulled its John [TS]

  races but that it yet today you see these guys and it's just the level of [TS]

  training that people get and again it's a Gulf Wars week we can we can prevent [TS]

  so many kinds of injuries which training but that just means the injuries moved [TS]

  to a different spot rate and I don't know I just one of the things I love [TS]

  about baseball those in baseball's the ones where a guy like Fernando you know [TS]

  short fat guy can come up and all of a sudden be a sensation whereas Fernando [TS]

  was never going to make it in the NBA [TS]

  yeah you don't see him being like a decathlete I don't want to nearly as [TS]

  much basketball is a used as basketball thing I've given up that's what she's [TS]

  played the most of the ad is this point I actually was at some aptitude for I [TS]

  don't watch it anymore not because I don't like it but just had you know [TS]

  there's only so much time working families shirt [TS]

  that the NBA playoffs on one thing I have no doubt that's what you're saying [TS]

  NBA players look like like action figures now like when we were just [TS]

  Barkley like when you at first when it first thought that was really big but [TS]

  that guy was just funny as hell was he didn't look like that like Wilt [TS]

  Chamberlain did not look like that you know you know when larry bird shirt [TS]

  Larry Bird he he he could have been a picture you know that guy right but let [TS]

  you know that Bird and Magic Johnson a good comparison obviously they were very [TS]

  tall both of them are six foot nine so I mean that's that's that's right larry [TS]

  bird was that tall Larry Bird and Magic Johnson both six-foot nightly also you [TS]

  know that they came out you know they played each other in college they played [TS]

  each other pros they were the exact same height 69 which is very very tall but [TS]

  you know you look at pictures of them from their heyday and they're kinda like [TS]

  string bean type guys where is the NBA players now they're ripped like become [TS]

  more physical and that time to think you know it's I don't know I don't know when [TS]

  I'm not I don't watch enough to say I think so I think it has become a little [TS]

  chilly becoming a lot faster than it used to be I definitely think so and i [TS]

  think that I did and I think that the guys you know to keep up the day really [TS]

  you know I work out like nonstop in between games I don't know I mean most [TS]

  of what I know about again most of what I know about tennis comes from watching [TS]

  my mother play in reading David Foster Wallace but I will tell you this [TS]

  watching C Bjorn Borg and John McEnroe in 1984 says Washington is today it [TS]

  feels like a completely different fare is so many Asus now there's just so much [TS]

  of it depends on having given to believe this has been true for awhile it just [TS]

  kind of fun to watch it would be like watching a hockey game where it's all [TS]

  about the puck from the from the other side of the net on the other side you [TS]

  look well I kinda like the following you know that's kind of what makes that's [TS]

  what makes soccer to me one of the most interesting [TS]

  things to watch . is that is extremely athletic they're running for whatever [TS]

  ninety minutes however long it is and they're moving that whole time and and [TS]

  and it's really is very much about about teamwork and basketball is almost [TS]

  everybody's involved almost all the time [TS]

  yeah I have to ask you can you can parlay this american pie or spending [TS]

  also talking about sports but but I i have asked questions I would like to get [TS]

  it before we leave but we could we could parlay that into something like a [TS]

  back-to-work type you know collaboration type thing about basketball is [TS]

  definitely a sport where if you have one guy in the team who's an asshole that [TS]

  matter how good the team is your probably gonna lose the team one guy on [TS]

  the court who doesn't get along with the other four and and it that more talented [TS]

  team might lose if he's not on the same page in terms of snowing like like which [TS]

  which kind of Defense we gonna play and stuff like that but like you know with [TS]

  five people on your team like you each have to be giving at least 20% rate I [TS]

  mean you've got to be thinking so many moves ahead cuz you're going to be [TS]

  called upon to do even if you don't handle the ball great football [TS]

  everybody's got a guide to protect but in that instance like your your you have [TS]

  to be taking so many moves ahead and so quickly and based on communicating so [TS]

  well and knowing the patterns of what the other guys are likely to do that [TS]

  you're gonna be in the right place at the right time to a sponsor break would [TS]

  be great detail about how lucky I famously I I don't do this on purpose I [TS]

  really don't I don't know how to pronounce a lot of words so I can I just [TS]

  told you before about my life [TS]

  upcoming live episode with the Windows Azure Zuari I pronounced it when they [TS]

  sponsored to show couple episodes ago as or I thought that that word thats like a [TS]

  shade of blue [TS]

  39 years of my life for 40 [TS]

  I thought the world was pronounced as or I didn't know but apparently it's Hazar [TS]

  while there's not a sure as your yeah yeah I don't know but you know you like [TS]

  I said it's part of the deal that sponsors get is that you used you get [TS]

  the attention of the audience and you get a couple of unique pronunciations [TS]

  from me [TS]

  here's this week's first sponsor is a company called mail route now it's emai [TS]

  L carro ute now would you say mail route or mail route be asking me if I'm using [TS]

  it out of the context of that product I would say mail route but I think mail [TS]

  route scans better yeah but i dont wanna say mail route because then I don't want [TS]

  people to go and google it and spell it R 00 T that's like saying pin number [TS]

  just a pin [TS]

  juncture cases happy but people may not know what you mean you see him number [TS]

  there's no ambiguity exactly but I'm all over the place on this casarse route 66 [TS]

  route [TS]

  well look mel r out or rude if you prefer but it's spelled with you it's a [TS]

  super super simple service and it's all based on the fact that email is still [TS]

  the number one way that everybody gets in touch with each other we've got all [TS]

  the different messaging stuff like that but lucky mouse told everybody knows [TS]

  that it's the thing we use the most [TS]

  here's the most amazing statistic ninety percent of every email sent on the [TS]

  internet as spam and I don't think for me it's got to be more than 90% of what [TS]

  mail route does it from the team that created Microsoft Forefront these guys [TS]

  have a long history of of great email services [TS]

  you take your domain [TS]

  your email for your domain you set your MX records 2.2 Mail Airmail goes their [TS]

  first goes through their filters then it comes to your mail server takes about a [TS]

  second per message so your mail is delayed by one second I mean if that [TS]

  bothers you then get stopped listening to my show listen to much you think [TS]

  that's a problem [TS]

  their spam filtering takes all the spam out and it just goes right in and it can [TS]

  take a domain or an email address that is inundated with spam and make it [TS]

  usable again and it's just phenomenal and you go to their website and read [TS]

  about and they tell you how they do it there's no magic involved right it's [TS]

  it's really really smart clever stuff I talked about this last week I love this [TS]

  idea they have this greatest thing which is what they do is out proper mail [TS]

  server you have a good clean mail server you contact me a mail server your mail [TS]

  server you contact me you say I have a message for John Gruber I can say hey [TS]

  I'm not ready to take this message right now come back in a minute and then you [TS]

  as a proper mail server will be ready to handle that that's a normal situation in [TS]

  email communication in a minute later you'll say hey I'm back I've got that [TS]

  message for John Gruber ok here I go and I'll take it and I'll put it in the box [TS]

  for that account [TS]

  the thing is is that sort of hate come back and try again in a minute I'm busy [TS]

  right now [TS]

  thing doesn't work with all the machines that send spam which almost all of them [TS]

  are you know they're they're these botnets you know their PCs that have [TS]

  been taken over by now we're and stuff like that they just blast the spam out [TS]

  thousands and thousands of messages a minute and never come back to it right [TS]

  they deserve a big list of emails they blasted out so this little just this is [TS]

  one of the ways that takes the spam out but I to me that's brilliant because it [TS]

  not even getting to the point of doing the sort of Bayesian analysis and [TS]

  looking at keywords and you know you know a grand the subject in all of this [TS]

  sort of analysis it's just a simple but to me it's such a great trick of getting [TS]

  on top of that from the outside and you know it's also the sort of thing that's [TS]

  never going to flag a good message the wrong way so it's a great service they [TS]

  match pricing on Postini or forefront all you have to do your interest in this [TS]

  go to check them out its mail route died in that round dot net dot dot com dot [TS]

  net just like Darren fireball that check them out and if you go to mail route [TS]

  dotnet / the talk show even a little better because then I know you came from [TS]

  the show without you I like that without you can see here's the question number [TS]

  what's on your mind as you're potentially career-ending injury now [TS]

  you've already had a close call but about a year or two ago you had a very [TS]

  close call for somebody who types and doesn't want to talk to the computer [TS]

  through Pearl by John Siracusa you you had to have what could have almost been [TS]

  a career-ending injury I like you think even broader [TS]

  you could you talk about your hand what's a career ending injury what is a [TS]

  Mariano Rivera need her [TS]

  hair look like I would say I'm gonna give you notice your show but it seems [TS]

  to me that could be something happens at Whole Foods it could be something [TS]

  happens at the liquor store your artist you gotta go abroad head injury [TS]

  obviously comes to mind but there's a top man you don't want that you should [TS]

  wear a helmet when you were a head injury but obviously I mean I think that [TS]

  would take a lot of people assume you've already had one [TS]

  well maybe you know you know like one of those movies where the guy gets cummed [TS]

  on the head and gets a super power and then he gets Congdon had again it goes [TS]

  away regardless you know even if even if my success is due to a previous head [TS]

  injury a subsequent one might take it away and I would guess secondarily I [TS]

  think I would do really poorly if I lost my sight I think a lot of what I care [TS]

  about and write about is what I see if you got that I want to mention it but [TS]

  the diagnostic is easy to get the macular degeneration [TS]

  you know about that we are you certain losing your vision from the Middle you [TS]

  know what it's actually know a lot about it because [TS]

  I was back when I used to build websites as a freelancer I was in charge of the [TS]

  website for foundation really for macular degeneration to get them some [TS]

  money that scare the pants off me I had pants I was actually founded by a guy [TS]

  who invented the Chicken McNugget stop I swear I got his wife about that kind in [TS]

  PR and he sold the idea to McDonalds right now but said they had all these [TS]

  parts that all these parts didn't know what to do with and they made nuggets [TS]

  and he wasn't one of those things where he sold the idea for 15 bucks it was [TS]

  like he sold the idea had some like equity in it and that's that guy came up [TS]

  with the automatic windshield wipers you know that guy got the shaft the guy who [TS]

  invented [TS]

  yes intermittent yeah I know exactly what you mean right guy you know it used [TS]

  to be two speeds slow and fast and this guy invented the little clock on the [TS]

  thing and yeah you could you could say wait 3 seconds [TS]

  yeah I love that guy got a sandwich out of it like maybe maybe have much left [TS]

  over like tuna fish sandwich now when when you build on that and his wife came [TS]

  down with the macular degeneration and so he devoted the fortunate it made 22 [TS]

  trying to find a cure finds help in Jamesburg think the whole connections [TS]

  episode about that how we get to diagnose disease that's that's that's a [TS]

  really cool story and it really is it's sort of like the worst way to lose your [TS]

  vision you lose it from the center out and of course the center is exactly you [TS]

  know it seems like it would be maddening as bad as it would be the start losing [TS]

  your peripheral vision will you should look at the things you want to look at [TS]

  by turning your red dress macular degeneration that's a cute you lose [TS]

  exactly what you're talking about but yeah I think I would think that would [TS]

  hurt my work you made your bones if I may say such as they are with with the [TS]

  during fireball site it seems to have talked about this I forget you [TS]

  elsewhere but I feel like you made your reputation [TS]

  a time when Paul was not certain that the Apple that they are now but where it [TS]

  was four people had every reason in the world to be suspicious about whether [TS]

  Apple was gonna survive was gonna turn into something and and then Apple you [TS]

  know better and you were there for that I mean you must wonder i guess im [TS]

  wondering was there ever a time when that felt like a career-ending injury on [TS]

  the horizon like given that I mean like given that you make your career really [TS]

  started at a time when you could provide a same counterpoint the people you know [TS]

  who were constantly announcing the death of Apple did you worry when I started [TS]

  getting better I mean it's cool because you're not the guy he like Apple but did [TS]

  you ever worry that they could too good and you don't have a job anymore [TS]

  no i i do I i will say though that I worried you know that's I don't know [TS]

  what's more statistically likely some kind of in probably an injury to me or [TS]

  something like that but I do worry though that if if Apple does stop being [TS]

  popular in suffers their next 10 years our decline instead of the last ten [TS]

  years which is great a scent that it would bode poorly for you know the [TS]

  sponsorship in ad revenue that I use you know primarily to turn my living but on [TS]

  the other hand I thought from the outset I never you know we've talked about this [TS]

  I never really set out just to write about Apple I set out to write about [TS]

  whatever is on my mind for the last ten years an awful lot of what's been on my [TS]

  mind is what Apple's up to Apple got to me the worst will be available got [TS]

  boring that's that's was gonna say yeah was gonna be my guest is the obvious [TS]

  get booked on the head you get a power goes away at opposite wouldn't just be a [TS]

  matter of Apple sucks Apple's really doing great couple sex again that the [TS]

  big concern would be without mentioning names a lot of companies that I think [TS]

  you and I have had a lot of respect for over the years simply got big and [TS]

  contracted and got boring and got weird and even if they just got boring it [TS]

  wouldn't be fun I mean the rumors rumors I here are that it's [TS]

  it is getting harder to retain practitioner and manager talent at apple [TS]

  just because there's not a Steve thing necessarily but that there is a sense [TS]

  that the most interesting problems at this point may have been solved [TS]

  you know that's just what I hear I don't that's accurate or not but you know how [TS]

  to certain point every company is gonna have to get if they're lucky they get [TS]

  big enough to where it is about scale and it is about a different kind of [TS]

  problem so the problem is going from my iPhone another problem but the somebody [TS]

  a company that can go from the iPhone to the iPad in three years is saying but [TS]

  you know making it easier for me to not have my Apple tibi tibi broken for two [TS]

  weeks is not as interesting of a headline but there's an awful lot of [TS]

  kids taking you know just just just not exciting work but just hard work that I [TS]

  Apple obviously has to do over the next few years just to sustain the iPhone and [TS]

  iPad in the stuff they already have that which is not the sort of exciting stuff [TS]

  that the real a-plus superstar Mariano Rivera type engineers and designers want [TS]

  to be doing right you know I mean somebody at Apple over the next three [TS]

  four five years one person that obviously there's a team is obviously [TS]

  just gonna spend an awful lot the time just like correcting the names of parks [TS]

  and putting the post office on the right side of the street and all the map data [TS]

  rate there's you know it's not exciting work like new said like somebody's got [TS]

  to do the work of sort of you you know making these Apple IDs a little bit more [TS]

  centralized so that you sign in once and everything is there and then sign in [TS]

  Game Center separately then I message and stuff like that not exciting work [TS]

  that is extent is in my experience having having worked on a single sign-in [TS]

  internet for a very very very large one company it was unbelievable how much [TS]

  work was involved in getting an apple this is gonna be easier than a place [TS]

  that has such different silence is a place where we did this work but that is [TS]

  whenever [TS]

  whenever I want to find out how much they really understand I'll say have you [TS]

  ever hurt I'm trying to implement even the most basic single sign in for [TS]

  something cuz it could hardly be horrible problems that could hardly [TS]

  seemed simpler to anybody else in a in a Google post Google world people are used [TS]

  to having a page with one or two or maybe three fields and you hit anything [TS]

  happens right but in actuality that is so hard if you doing that for a char ok [TS]

  well so yet seen the sign in the first of all this information is by design in [TS]

  different places the stuff about your health insurance is not sitting in the [TS]

  same place as your for example like when you were hired it may not be in that [TS]

  same thing with this updated address information do we keep me signed in to [TS]

  the extremely sensitive health data section as long as we keep you log into [TS]

  the what's happening at the picnic this weekend section [TS]

  heart problems and then the stuff that Apple that a lot of people in there are [TS]

  so many things that everybody thinks I do but a common theme is that they still [TS]

  haven't gotten a lot of people would like them to be with things like web [TS]

  services and boy is that ever gonna not seem super interesting to have a [TS]

  headline about uptime Justin Williams Show Justin Williams guess that's why I [TS]

  was actually thinking of his whole areas that I will be home to it I will add [TS]

  it's all good things and all the things that Apple although it wasn't all the [TS]

  things that Apple needs to announce at WWDC right in three weeks the internet [TS]

  and it's a big long list and it's really pretty good actually it's actually good [TS]

  in a couple of our little jokey but for the most part it's pretty serious and [TS]

  obviously they're not going to announce all it's not only the beauty of it is [TS]

  it's not just a few people go it'd be neat if they made a blue iPhone as much [TS]

  stuff like that it's stuff like this if you hear people saying the the success [TS]

  and longevity of this company [TS]

  rides on what you have in front of it [TS]

  is good man everything happen needs introducing WBC to appease the internet [TS]

  completely refreshed design language for iOS 7 modernize an updated system apps [TS]

  for iOS that match the new design language etc [TS]

  multiple people on FaceTime calls an update I message that makes a reliable [TS]

  and update I message that allows people to leave group chats these are all [TS]

  really good features right i mean it's along listen as little as you heard a [TS]

  lot of people actually say it's really liked it sticking it's just that I'm not [TS]

  saying that it's there's no satisfaction in doing it but it's not exciting you [TS]

  know it is it's a sort of thing where it's hard to keep you know you're a plus [TS]

  guys working on something like that as opposed to working on going off on her [TS]

  own and doing something new with you when you were a developer I was never I [TS]

  was never like a real developer but I mean even even making web pages which is [TS]

  what I really did he was so much more interesting to me to get to do to make a [TS]

  design to do the UX I mean I was the fun bringing stuff and then a satisfying [TS]

  even all the way down to do production graphics was always really fun for me I [TS]

  really liked all of that but then something like okay well we're moving to [TS]

  this different content management system and now we're gonna have to change and [TS]

  change these variables in these things were going to have to certainly find [TS]

  replace but I always go for the guys to the real developing it was never that [TS]

  fun to have to take the code base and go make it work in this different place for [TS]

  total but did you ever experienced that like it's one thing to get to write this [TS]

  script that does a thing and then it's another thing to have to go all did you [TS]

  do this like scrubbing with a toothbrush to try and make this thing a little [TS]

  better it's not well and that's why I admire the developers like bare-bones [TS]

  software or the Omni group who [TS]

  who build apps and then spend years iterating an interesting and iterating [TS]

  and keeping them up-to-date and keeping them relevant whereas the most exciting [TS]

  part is the original version right [TS]

  BBEdit you know 1.0 is the one that was the most exciting you know actually 22 [TS]

  points 2.1 was the first public version that's that's that's all 44 until I got [TS]

  a WYSIWYG editor that is literally starting in 1995 those are pretty much [TS]

  that's all I used to make web pages was it just be used includes when they came [TS]

  out I think rich I think just tweeted yesterday that date it was the 20th [TS]

  anniversary of the first public version of BB at it he said in its first three [TS]

  days away from the first public griping about the practice but I think that [TS]

  twenty years working on an editor that is still one of the top most relevant [TS]

  programming text editors for the Mac right and I just salute that because it [TS]

  is you know most of those twenty years most of those twenty days and 20 years [TS]

  retrievals been working on the app and most of those days of not been exciting [TS]

  work it's just hard work you know and same with you know the group's another [TS]

  great example where these these guys have been working on this web stuff so [TS]

  hard you know I again companies I work with again a job it's the stuff that [TS]

  they sweat that you will hopefully never notice how hard they sweated it and you [TS]

  have no I mean nothing new to this year the user you the Apple fan you're used [TS]

  to you are wonderfully lucky and you're fortunate to not have to notice how good [TS]

  this is but it is it is difficult work and in the case of some of these things [TS]

  he's he's certainly been around when you have to do a giant teardown of something [TS]

  to do you know where it's almost like a western town where all you see as the [TS]

  viewer are are the fronts of these stores but sometimes you know [TS]

  but some like Snow Leopard something to talk about this on the accidental tech [TS]

  podcast to tick tock tick thing is that a real term with a making that up now [TS]

  that that's a real turn like every something like roughly every other stain [TS]

  release is that right but has had some seniors but certainly Snow Leopard was [TS]

  very controversial in some ways because 22 somebody a simpleton like me you can [TS]

  ok well where's where's the publish and subscribe [TS]

  where is the theming I'm sure you know what I mean like what wears these as in [TS]

  this but knowing if you can actually read what happened there so that they [TS]

  tore the guts out and change so much stuff about that right it's it was not a [TS]

  trivial thing with just being lazy it's just that we couldn't as a user you [TS]

  shouldn't notice how much changed about it right right and it was a tough thing [TS]

  to sell I think because of what people expect from Apple's people expect you [TS]

  know everything every time a positive end they expect steve Jobs pulling the [TS]

  iPhone out of his pocket and blowing at the world away with something that seems [TS]

  like it's literally from five to ten years in the future and then instead [TS]

  they said well we went into the guts and we cleaned out a lot of the junk and we [TS]

  modernize the plumbing and somehow pits did in a way that that didn't have [TS]

  people you know works I do think though that its exact sort of thing that they [TS]

  could not get away with today maybe a couple of years but right now at this [TS]

  fever pitch of sort of you know Apple can't do anything without Steve Jobs [TS]

  doom and gloom they couldn't they couldn't do that today [TS]

  now now I think you're right but it's yeah I did so in terms of career ending [TS]

  injury I think you'll still have a very long live careers only picked ahead and [TS]

  let your [TS]

  related to the cooking but you know my career ending injury I think I've [TS]

  already had most of them and that's why do i do i mean this isn't much of a [TS]

  career John but you know so they could always go wrong it had a tensioner for a [TS]

  while and so that's that's that's probably good doctor about that but what [TS]

  about your voice [TS]

  see i three d-iii sound like somebody trying to throw a clarinet but what [TS]

  about if you got like this Larry Page old instrument yeah yeah yeah yeah he s [TS]

  got till it's got delbert what's-his-name [TS]

  Gilbert he's been he's been diagnosing him remotely did you know that now you [TS]

  know Scott Elbert the Dilbert guys got out of you hehe he's pretty sure he [TS]

  knows with Larry Page has caused kathy has something very similar and it sounds [TS]

  and other one it's it's it's like the vocal person generation it's in the [TS]

  listings that sounds just awful when Rush Limbaugh had had the hearing thing [TS]

  that's where I live in fear of his waking up one day and and it's like [TS]

  something out of kafka story you know I wouldn't mind waking up as a road show [TS]

  me my office is already pretty good environment for that but you know it's [TS]

  as you get older and your body starts working with less dependability and [TS]

  symmetry he is a day when I wake up and don't understand how rush limbaugh does [TS]

  what he does him he's he's like legally death is that is is it so they didn't [TS]

  they couldn't fix that he's so I mean he's not likes to stone cold death but I [TS]

  think he's effectively death but yet somehow does for our daily radio show [TS]

  the Jets intended to make that that's that's actually really amazing that you [TS]

  know me to be able to continue doing that you know it just seems to me like [TS]

  you would do poorly if I got the vocal cord thing I may have to stop doing this [TS]

  show so if I lost my voice like I have to go back to not writing or not [TS]

  web developing yeah that see that will be a hard move for me this is pretty [TS]

  much on time comfortable to me is beyond 34 podcast today so I'm gonna make a [TS]

  possibly and I don't mean this to be disparaging now is not take any notes he [TS]

  gave me john shirt with the Larry Page thing did you see him did you seem [TS]

  talked the other day now and I you know it's off to him you know it came out the [TS]

  day before I O The Post and just said look here's what's been going on with my [TS]

  boys for the last year [TS]

  and and you know that he did you know that they don't know what the causes but [TS]

  he lost his left use of his left vocal cord while back and then the same thing [TS]

  couple years later the same things started happening to his right vocal [TS]

  cord but it's not complete but its left him his voices couple people described [TS]

  as frog it's not you know it makes it so it makes them quietly needed like a [TS]

  different microphone on stage but he did well and and and as as his stint in [TS]

  animals on stage it was a very long they were up there for over four hours but he [TS]

  was on for only 45 minutes and his voice was to me it seemed stronger at the end [TS]

  when he first came out but it does remind me of the way that like in the [TS]

  bond James Bond movies that the Bond villain usually has some kind of very [TS]

  unusual and distinct physiological [TS]

  car felt like a metal claws for hands you know and I feel like it adds a sort [TS]

  of Bond villain aspect to Larry Page is that what you know the thing is you know [TS]

  the other thing is like he's got a lot to do if he were to get a clock hand I [TS]

  think that would make me very distinctive for example I would know [TS]

  that it's him versus the other guy I don't know he's also proposing to me [TS]

  some sort of Bond villain ask grandiose things like hehe no I Larry pagey [TS]

  offhandedly said look there's a you know it would be nice if technologists had [TS]

  her own special island we can have our own laws and we could try out new things [TS]

  that maybe the real world isn't ready for yet [TS]

  you know we could get rid of all these pesky regulations on medical records and [TS]

  stuff like that and see what happens if Google can have access to everybody's [TS]

  medical records in this controlled environment is no way where I'm at home [TS]

  I have bookmarked ready he's he's basically in this in this dystopian in [TS]

  this utopian environment we would finally get to do what our league of [TS]

  developers would really love to do we want to get our hands on this [TS]

  information so we can do it right and it you know when you start talking about [TS]

  setting up islands like Cobra Commander right there's no question about it at [TS]

  that time the Cobra Commander they like set off a new band and the Gulf of [TS]

  Mexico and it made it an island rise up and then they planted a cobra flag on it [TS]

  and boom had a country it was that easy easy but if you want you put your flight [TS]

  on the land and answers and they made new land line of comics fan but when you [TS]

  get chance Google for magneto engine osha as it sounds a little bit like this [TS]

  X Men villain who on a variety of occasions he started his own meteor at [TS]

  one point he had a utopia and dystopia if you like for these things that sounds [TS]

  kinda like what you're talking about it does to me like this fellow is just a [TS]

  little bit away from a purple metal hood and maybe some laser beam sharks [TS]

  unless be honest John like milk law notwithstanding he's got to go he's got [TS]

  the dough and he's got the developers they could be again in my parlance it [TS]

  would be more like Hydra when your case of these GI Joe solace he could [TS]

  certainly have his own standing army of people wearing Google glass Google glass [TS]

  perfect for the future [TS]

  self-driving cars right with a couple of guns on the self-driving cars and you've [TS]

  got an army oh you gotta cut all this out I think you know I think about this [TS]

  now because there is so much they're so he's going to get all the information [TS]

  he's got the standing armies got an island he may have a cloth armor pretty [TS]

  sure he may eventually have a cool synthesized voice all he needs now is he [TS]

  needs some kind of an affectation like again maybe he's really into playing [TS]

  competitive chess or maybe get a bullwhip he should have something that [TS]

  he could put into the electronic law that would give him the comedian if you [TS]

  an action figure of it right if you had if you had something where you could [TS]

  make an action figure [TS]

  him data in one hand and within the other austerity policies that is what [TS]

  would you date a guy come up with says you could just go out and get to know [TS]

  name right there would be only the second sponsor our second sponsor you [TS]

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  yeah I'm thinking about that all day we met when I'm wrapped around a little [TS]

  while I think with a little preparation we could come up with a pretty good [TS]

  pitch pitch that idea and the thing is if you're super villain you know you're [TS]

  super villain it's looking like an Avengers Iron Man spoilers but Iron Man [TS]

  figures out the look is a lot like him right he figures out that part of the [TS]

  thing with low key as he wants to be seen doing he wants he wants to be [TS]

  noticed so maybe it's the kind of thing where Larry Page but actually find [TS]

  himself maybe as an infomercial for page island [TS]

  yeah maybe that's a better now and even to the Bond villain because of buying [TS]

  don't always have some kind of dastardly plot to take over the world and you know [TS]

  it's something that needs to be stopped whereas a comic book it's you got it you [TS]

  got a long term it's a saga right you know a bond thing is gonna get wrapped [TS]

  up in two hours in the guys probably gonna be dead where is the comic book [TS]

  thing is gonna go on for twenty thirty years as gonna say right talking about [TS]

  Google twenty years from now and Larry Page is probably still going to be the [TS]

  CEO on the different kinds of different kinds of super villains whether Tim bond [TS]

  or whether it's in whatever and I think as with a lot of Eli preferences in [TS]

  certain kinds of time travel time line ideas I think in this case everybody's [TS]

  different kinds of villains that they really like you got you some classics [TS]

  you got you got the villain who has a grudge rate it could be somebody like [TS]

  you know oh he wants to get that spider-man because he's so much cooler [TS]

  than him it is always the money villain there is no goldfinger do you think he's [TS]

  he's kind of a straight-up money villain right yeah he he wanted the money you [TS]

  got the you got the net what about what about the guy from the country for old [TS]

  men he he's he is he's a revenge gradual [TS]

  is a code of honor this going back he's going back after M 44 what she did to [TS]

  his job right [TS]

  ok that's great I mean like three times and then you got to get that kind of [TS]

  course you've always got the the anarchistic know you've got the [TS]

  sociopaths psychotic kind of person who just wants to cause me [TS]

  Joker in the Dark Knight give a sense of not seeing very pages a super villain [TS]

  with a clock for him but if he would if you were if he were what would the [TS]

  nature of his villainy does he doesn't have to be evil you know I would say I [TS]

  would say he's the misguided utopia and he actually it does not I do not believe [TS]

  that he is [TS]

  a bad person he has bad intentions I actually think that he truly is utopian [TS]

  with the best interests [TS]

  magneto is him that's that's assuming but he's but he is I think misguided and [TS]

  erroneous and that it's a you know you know dr. Frankenstein that good [TS]

  intentions that's a good point so if you you could you could even with the best [TS]

  intentions and a self-driving island and everybody wearing a pair of glasses she [TS]

  could create an environment it seems like everybody would be happy even if [TS]

  you're not allowed to live on the island like it would be better to like and what [TS]

  I say by that is that it would be better if I'm wrong and that he gets everything [TS]

  he wants and it works out the way he's saying because that would actually be [TS]

  great for everybody [TS]

  yeah right what i'm saying is that I think what I think is that this stuff is [TS]

  just going to be a disaster in terms of privacy and other aspects like that and [TS]

  that the utopian things aren't gonna it's hard it's hard to say right now for [TS]

  me it's hard to see how it turns out great you know but you know as churchill [TS]

  said you know history is written by the guys with the plans we only have a [TS]

  minute or two but I do think there is something weird going on I feel you know [TS]

  and I feel like the tech stuff goes through great cycles and it's what makes [TS]

  it such an interesting thing to write about and I do feel like reaching this [TS]

  inflection point where things are dividing and and the Google glass really [TS]

  as much as it right now it's just a curiosity that there's only a couple [TS]

  thousand pairs that haven't put out people's hands and they cost us [TS]

  ridiculous amount and they're not trying to sell it to the mass market but it [TS]

  it's clearly one of the most divisive things that come out in ever since I've [TS]

  been writing about technology right and Nick Nick Bilton great piece in the New [TS]

  York Times today he's at the Google i/o conference [TS]

  which ended this place he says there might be you know it seems as though [TS]

  there maybe even a thousand people here wearing right so instead of like where [TS]

  where people out in the valley on San Francisco hey I actually saw a guy at [TS]

  the Peet's joined the other day wearing Google glass wow I saw somebody here if [TS]

  you go to the loan you go to Google i/o and there's a thousand people where he [TS]

  you know Nick Bilton really seem to its great piece up shown it but it really [TS]

  seems like you know it's it's a divergence [TS]

  he had this thing where he was talking to a guy who's talking about how great [TS]

  the winky APIs which is the actual name of the app takes a photo by a nice [TS]

  gesture [TS]

  writer and the guy was saying he's addicted to it and that he wasn't [TS]

  wearing his glasses other day and he was winking to take a picture and nothing [TS]

  happened and he realized that his brains been wired that he just assumed that [TS]

  when he wakes he's gonna get a pic and so yeah and then builtin says and then I [TS]

  gotta go to the restroom I'm gonna go take a leak and get away from this for a [TS]

  little bit and he went in and it's you know it's a tech conference the line [TS]

  again in the men's room as long you gotta wait wait wait and then he goes to [TS]

  take a leak and he looks and the four guys next to him all wearing glass and [TS]

  all sort of looking around whether taking the lead in iran right and that [TS]

  that's something that's weird thats [TS]

  indicate the activity is there anything like a rhetoric is nothing to indicate [TS]

  what's happening inside the glass to somebody who's not wearing and you have [TS]

  no idea man well you know I think you know I think you're right thing I think [TS]

  you're right it's it's it's hard to tell until the time is past like one [TS]

  something important has happened to me think something important happened but [TS]

  you know he seemed like a really big deal when Google search came out because [TS]

  as a consumer we saw how different that was even from me at the time amazing [TS]

  AltaVista [TS]

  but the real story in some ways was advertising like what make Google Google [TS]

  in some ways I think we could probably agree is advertising the search was [TS]

  great but I wonder if there's a part of me that really does wonder if Google [TS]

  glass will be that thing but here's the thing about sauce for the gander I've [TS]

  been roundly criticized by many of my friends house skeptical am about lauding [TS]

  products before they've come out I think it's pretty interesting the number of [TS]

  people i've seen [TS]

  and again this is this is just don't follow the stuff as you know but in the [TS]

  aggregate there are a lot of people including me who are little bit freaked [TS]

  out the whole notion of it and the fact that it's tied to Google who's already [TS]

  getting freaky but given the massive number of people have talked about that [TS]

  I think it's also pretty interesting that how many people are saying oh but [TS]

  once you put him on its pretty cool have you heard people say that I have and [TS]

  it's interesting though it's like we always talk about our products you can [TS]

  sell you one about it but it's a hold in your hand use it for a couple days [TS]

  that's the aha moment so did you think we might be on the wrong side of this do [TS]

  we need to like around and I could be you know definitely might be an hour and [TS]

  I also see to how this is this this is need the Michael what's his name from [TS]

  the Wall Street movie this is his you know that big brick size cell phone that [TS]

  he had 1986 where his bathroom right and we were really impressed by that you [TS]

  could be on the beach and beyond a phone call it the thing is the size of you [TS]

  know the size of a briefcase you know Google glass is that for these heads-up [TS]

  displays I mean I don't think there's any doubt there's no doubt in my mind [TS]

  that it won't be you know five ten years from now that you'll be able to buy a [TS]

  normal pair of eyeglasses [TS]

  and our committee contacts contact seems hard battery was quite you know I'm not [TS]

  quite sure how you something electronic could be reduced to a contact lens a 10 [TS]

  in the near future I mean but you'll never have a computer in your pocket [TS]

  well I'm not saying never I'm just saying that seems yeah maybe a little [TS]

  bit further out in the event horizon but so we look at it looks a little bit [TS]

  wonky but but who knows what the next to her third iteration of this I don't [TS]

  think people are going to get used to Google glass as it exists today not [TS]

  making it look like a complete jackass I fully acknowledge though that they'll be [TS]

  able to quickly be able to her aid and get it looks a lot more like a normal [TS]

  para classes at which point you know something like that I guess is [TS]

  inevitable I don't know you know you know I never gonna have to get used to [TS]

  it just just putting your foot in the standard your hand up in here and saying [TS]

  this is creepy is irrelevant because people are gonna do it anyway I don't [TS]

  know let's check back in saying I can't wait to be i cant wait though to tell my [TS]

  habit of looking at my cell phone every five minutes makes me a curmudgeon [TS]

  rather than the old fashioned guys you're staring at your external dingus [TS]

  instead of just creepily eight-minute the strip right Johnson anti-social here [TS]

  than anybody else P right instead of me looking at attention deficit disorder I [TS]

  look like the guy with the monk like serenity I gotta go well thanks for [TS]

  having me on this is great you the best I I'll see you in a couple weeks you [TS]

  will be on your time and if not I'll just see on his own [TS]