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  time critical number 230 fine [TS]

  februari 2015 welcome back everybody to [TS]

  be uncomfortable i am your host Jason [TS]

  Steele we're here I'm convening another [TS]

  meeting of the old movie club or Movie [TS]

  Club the big and mean it [TS]

  our topic today will be two films from [TS]

  alfred hitchcock this has been pitched [TS]

  to me as the underappreciated Hitchcock [TS]

  segment we're going to be talking about [TS]

  1943 shadow of a doubt and 1940s rope [TS]

  and I i will introduce my panelists now [TS]

  David lower hello [TS]

  gucci me Monty ashley i only watch these [TS]

  movies to demonstrate that I could [TS]

  commit a perfect murder [TS]

  it didn't work now I find a lot of holes [TS]

  in all these laws will eventually since [TS]

  she just confessed in a podcast like [TS]

  tragic flaw indeed and Enoch oh hello hi [TS]

  there I i I'm gonna be a bit late coming [TS]

  in here because i'm selling a newspaper [TS]

  to a suspiciously portly gentleman whose [TS]

  back is turned to the camera open up [TS]

  he's already left i'm ok now you look [TS]

  familiar [TS]

  I don't I couldn't go to play these it [TS]

  was just through so quickly that I [TS]

  couldn't place it could really see his [TS]

  face and a moron hello [TS]

  no one will convict me for killing all [TS]

  of you that's probably accurate [TS]

  well Steve let's also out there who [TS]

  could forget Steve let's I can't imagine [TS]

  a person could forget Steve lot when [TS]

  you're using our theme song for the old [TS]

  movie club its reward movie clubs young [TS]

  not really a theme or a song not the [TS]

  theme song for the old movie it is [TS]

  anyway [TS]

  and the instigator of this whole thing [TS]

  is Philip Michaels can you explain your [TS]

  thinking in this that the concept that [TS]

  you you you chose for us with these two [TS]

  films i would be happy to jason i think [TS]

  when you mention alfred hitchcock of the [TS]

  movies that most rapidly spring to mind [TS]

  are your psychos and your North by [TS]

  Northwest and maybe your rear windows or [TS]

  if you're if you're really a film snoot [TS]

  of vertigo or or even the birds but for [TS]

  my money basically the movies at high [TS]

  anxiety [TS]

  yes what what well I'll of North by [TS]

  Northwest I think that's a really good [TS]

  movie i think some of Hitchcock's best [TS]

  work is some of his earlier stuff and I [TS]

  think it often gets overlooked for one [TS]

  reason or another and I I i wanted to 2a [TS]

  bring these movies one of which is my [TS]

  favorite Hitchcock movie and the other [TS]

  of which is I i think is really a neat [TS]

  neat bit of film film trickery that I i [TS]

  think we can talk about all right should [TS]

  we start with then with shadow of a [TS]

  doubt from 1943 and not a spoiler alert [TS]

  this is my favorite Hitchcock uh-oh [TS]

  you've ruined the rest of the podcast [TS]

  yeah books and if you--if interviews [TS]

  with alfred hitchcock ER to be believed [TS]

  this was his favorite movie of all truth [TS]

  singing that man is a liar [TS]

  yeah haha sell shadow of a doubt as he [TS]

  said it's a 1943 and it is filmed in a [TS]

  place very very near to where Jason [TS]

  Meyer podcasting tonight Santa Rosa [TS]

  California but i get i get ahead of [TS]

  myself the movie opens up in what is [TS]

  some sort of urban hellscape I assume [TS]

  it's Philadelphia it enslaves numerous [TS]

  Heller hellscape is when I got it it has [TS]

  that whole eastcoast life is [TS]

  deteriorating vibe and it looks rather [TS]

  newcastle s Caswell oh yeah exactly [TS]

  uh-huh i had a direct a kazoo parade to [TS]

  walk through in the Alliance a shout out [TS]

  to earlier and yes that's right that's [TS]

  some old movie club continuity their [TS]

  catalog the right people get it [TS]

  up and they want to appreciate it but [TS]

  they'll get it I don't appreciate a nice [TS]

  set it good [TS]

  Joseph copy this line of a bad then ma [TS]

  indeed all right [TS]

  as it turns out some some dudes are [TS]

  looking for him and and he looks to be a [TS]

  cat and a spot of trouble so he loots [TS]

  that the two guys that are looking for [TS]

  him and sends a telegram to his family [TS]

  in santa rosa california that he's gonna [TS]

  come out for a visit [TS]

  meanwhile at that same time in santa [TS]

  rosa california uh the family who is a [TS]

  represented by Teresa Wright who plays [TS]

  also a young lady named Charlie I should [TS]

  mention the joseph cotten is uncle [TS]

  Charlie so they have that connection you [TS]

  see and also they may be the only two [TS]

  intelligent people in their entire fam [TS]

  well we'll get to that I think later in [TS]

  the whole town of Santa Rosa yes it's [TS]

  it's not a very bright family haha so [TS]

  Teresa Wright is a bit down in the dumps [TS]

  she's feeling that there in Iraq and [TS]

  then she gets on the idea to invite [TS]

  uncle Charlie out for a visit [TS]

  Oh uncle Charlie sent a telegram that [TS]

  he's coming yeah they have a connection [TS]

  you see and uncle Charlie arrives and [TS]

  almost immediately the time I stop you [TS]

  for a moment as I enjoy the line i enjoy [TS]

  the exchange between the lady at the [TS]

  telegraph company and any young Charlie [TS]

  where she says have you ever thought [TS]

  about telepathy and the old ladies like [TS]

  to look at these my business I don't [TS]

  believe it [TS]

  yeah yeah I wanted to what struck me was [TS]

  the fact we are your ass lady seemed [TS]

  genuinely worried about her business [TS]

  model for a second there like a white [TS]

  wait wait you can communicate with [TS]

  outliers was going to bubble was never [TS]

  gonna burst [TS]

  it's over but for telegrams anyhow so [TS]

  uncle Charlie arrives in town and almost [TS]

  immediately both the viewer and Teresa [TS]

  Wright can spot there's something not [TS]

  quite right but he's he's got some [TS]

  secrets he does some very weird things [TS]

  he's snatching newspapers out of peoples [TS]

  and dismissed [TS]

  he's giving out gifts with other [TS]

  people's names engraved on that and he [TS]

  talks about how elderly women should [TS]

  probably be choked just on principle [TS]

  well we're getting ahead for getting [TS]

  ahead of ourselves and a lot of fun at [TS]

  dinner parties [TS]

  yes [TS]

  so also I that moment of like hey it's [TS]

  joseph cotten I remember him from such [TS]

  movies as as the third man and citizen [TS]

  came and I now suspect him of everything [TS]

  right except in those movies like he's [TS]

  yes he's a nice guy and and here he [TS]

  shows up and he's East he immediately [TS]

  gives off a creepy vibe and and the [TS]

  first time I ever saw this movie instead [TS]

  of talking to be ok because Joseph [TS]

  gotten a nice guy [TS]

  no he's not thank you know he's very bad [TS]

  at being a nice guy in this that [TS]

  newspaper here and again [TS]

  yeah well trying to cover his tracks and [TS]

  all it doesn't make everybody in the [TS]

  house say hey look what uncle Charlie [TS]

  did to that newspaper you stole a page [TS]

  hey everybody he ripped up dad's [TS]

  newspaper dad's gonna be upset even [TS]

  before that like when he shows up at the [TS]

  station and he let everybody else carry [TS]

  his bags from even like the little kids [TS]

  are like carrying his bags like I'm just [TS]

  gonna stand back here i'm not you know [TS]

  if you pretend to be sick to first right [TS]

  ladies getting off the green he looks [TS]

  all feeble and then he's like spring [TS]

  along and sauntering and then he's like [TS]

  yes children carry my heavy bags for [TS]

  being the newspapers cost the equivalent [TS]

  of about six hundred dollars in 1940's [TS]

  that must be unbelievably anal about [TS]

  that newspaper the kids are terrified [TS]

  remember the back then if you missed out [TS]

  on that paper that's only gonna be [TS]

  another four hours wait until the next [TS]

  10 dare take the comics Clarence will [TS]

  fly into a murderous rage and see how I [TS]

  i assume that everyone's Oh uncle [TS]

  Charlie he's always playing tricks and [TS]

  stunts that's why why you have that so [TS]

  two gentlemen show up and they're [TS]

  they're pretending to do a survey of the [TS]

  fat American family [TS]

  it basically the FBI in those days has [TS]

  has no no skillet subterfuge and more [TS]

  recently with suppressed because it's [TS]

  quite clear that they are there solely [TS]

  to check up on Uncle Charlie they had as [TS]

  much skill as they needed [TS]

  yes good just for this is very much a [TS]

  hey your shoelace is untied kind of [TS]

  people you need to deal with their on [TS]

  behalf of money girion prince who's got [TS]

  a bank account for him where we're at [TS]

  the point where uh-uh FBI man a square [TS]

  jaw breaks the nineties [TS]

  just so that's fo marks i honestly [TS]

  thought for a moment he was a postmark [TS]

  he's just had that sort of wave the air [TS]

  yeah he knows a long torso breaks the [TS]

  news to Charlie that I thought he was at [TS]

  Martin after several good punches to the [TS]

  face that her uncle might actually be a [TS]

  murderer [TS]

  yes and not just any murder but a serial [TS]

  killer who goes around like women widows [TS]

  and taking their money and then leaving [TS]

  him for dead and it's either it's either [TS]

  him or another guy in the east coast so [TS]

  they're they're following him so that's [TS]

  like week 11 of American Idol we know [TS]

  it's gonna be one of these to stay tuned [TS]

  after the break to find out feel good [TS]

  about the crime-fighting of 1943 they're [TS]

  like we got it narrowed down to two guys [TS]

  who has been murdering everybody what is [TS]

  the evidence is there someone is like [TS]

  Schrodinger's cat evidence somewhere [TS]

  that it's like it's definitely one of [TS]

  these two guys the things that will one [TS]

  later on is that they have the same [TS]

  initials is the thing like when they [TS]

  when they talk later on about like the [TS]

  guy they captured his initials are also [TS]

  like co-owned so Mike apparently he left [TS]

  like a monogrammed handkerchief is [TS]

  significant rock and there's nothing I i [TS]

  believe this is what we call in the [TS]

  business MacGuffin just keep moving [TS]

  along but apparently the way it works is [TS]

  that as soon as one suspect is dead all [TS]

  of the others are exhausted yeah well my [TS]

  top yeah well I realized realized this [TS]

  was j edgar Hoover's FBI so first step [TS]

  eliminate all the Protestants really [TS]

  narrows the suspect pulled down if [TS]

  they're positive they know which one of [TS]

  these two guys I feel like they could [TS]

  have turned up their investigation a [TS]

  little more than without the older may [TS]

  long fake survey said that doesn't that [TS]

  does indicate their entire manpower on [TS]

  this case was four guys can split them [TS]

  into two guys that way two guys the [TS]

  other way [TS]

  probably not enlisting the help of an 18 [TS]

  year old ladies you mean operative is it [TS]

  is also about law enforcement strategic [TS]

  resell em now young charlie is beginning [TS]

  to have her suspicions about Uncle [TS]

  Charlie who is getting creepier and [TS]

  creepier with every sea and it is not a [TS]

  lot for a room for him to go there is [TS]

  not good pretty creepy and also those [TS]

  two are flirting with each other yeah [TS]

  what you see is what the weird and [TS]

  uncomfortable sexual tension [TS]

  well I think that's quite intentional on [TS]

  num Hitchcock's part and speaking of [TS]

  movies that Teresa Wright would go on to [TS]

  make she later made a movie with joseph [TS]

  cotten which he could place my fabulous [TS]

  yeah um but yeah I know basically a [TS]

  uncle Charlie starts off at the ceiling [TS]

  of creepy and then like high recovery [TS]

  that burrow through the ceiling [TS]

  I don't have you would happen and [TS]

  because Andy mentioned already that the [TS]

  monologue that on the uncle Charlie [TS]

  gives about widows is is is it is quite [TS]

  delightful one of my favorite bits of [TS]

  dialogue in any Hitchcock movie uh [TS]

  because it and and what did the wives do [TS]

  these useless women you see them in the [TS]

  hotel's the best hotels every day by the [TS]

  thousands drinking their money eating [TS]

  their monthly notices money at the [TS]

  bridge they not did night smelling of [TS]

  money proud of their jewelry but if [TS]

  nothing else horrible faded fat greedy [TS]

  women are they are the human are they [TS]

  fat we had an amazing animals and what [TS]

  happens to animals when they get too fat [TS]

  too old and and and and the context of [TS]

  this is he supposed to give a speech to [TS]

  the local women's clothing and Trump his [TS]

  mother uncle Charlie sister sister but I [TS]

  hope you don't give that speech to the [TS]

  club was good yeah he's really great [TS]

  speechifying I'm workshopping a few open [TS]

  legs tonight for you used to see the [TS]

  roses greatest orators of all time by [TS]

  contrast my favorite dialogue in the [TS]

  movie is say I've never had a wristwatch [TS]

  the fellows at the bank will think I'm [TS]

  quite a sport it's evidenced by the fact [TS]

  that doesn't know how to put it on and [TS]

  try z fumbles with ya that anyhow uh [TS]

  everyone uh in santa rosa just embraces [TS]

  uncle Charlie to their beliefs because [TS]

  because he is the most wonderful thing [TS]

  which I i think is again and a very [TS]

  intentional thing that Hitchcock did [TS]

  because that the terror in this movie is [TS]

  what if you know something horrible [TS]

  about someone that you previously loved [TS]

  and admired and no one believes you [TS]

  everybody like yeah yeah because you [TS]

  never said anything to any [TS]

  buddy so at as we've mentioned there are [TS]

  two suspects and charlie is consumed [TS]

  uncle Charlie he needs to leave town and [TS]

  the and he's about to bolt and then all [TS]

  of a sudden word comes over the radio [TS]

  that suspect number two has a fled from [TS]

  the FBI and run into a propeller blade [TS]

  and was closing the case then offered [TS]

  his cock master of plot not to [TS]

  foreshadow but if you're if you're a [TS]

  serial murderer i suggest watching out [TS]

  for various forms of transportation that [TS]

  just like your undoing it yeah and if [TS]

  it's down to you and one other guy find [TS]

  any other guy take care of the other guy [TS]

  as we've mentioned Hume Cronyn is in [TS]

  this movie as the as the next door [TS]

  neighbor who has a fascination with true [TS]

  crime and murders and he literally says [TS]

  at that point when the news comes up [TS]

  over the radio [TS]

  well I guess that wraps up this case and [TS]

  it's not like the rick moranis of this [TS]

  i'm fascinated by the human Cronin's [TS]

  character and also his relationship with [TS]

  the dad where they have these [TS]

  conversations of how they will kill how [TS]

  I will kill you [TS]

  I get away with it this way it makes [TS]

  perfect sense though because he murders [TS]

  the dad who then goes on to become [TS]

  Clarence the angel so it all worked out [TS]

  with the nineteen-forties it was the [TS]

  love that could not speak its name [TS]

  they're great though I think they're my [TS]

  favorite part of the whole help although [TS]

  how freaky was it to see I actually had [TS]

  to like look up his age he was 32 years [TS]

  old my God he's like a young Hume Cronyn [TS]

  I didn't know they even made through [TS]

  that I had never seen a non raise any [TS]

  human Cronin i'm going to show you [TS]

  exactly what he has kind of a like a [TS]

  henry winkler meets val kilmer thing [TS]

  going to be like just just a dash of [TS]

  Crispin Glover throne energy i even more [TS]

  than a dashi may have a whole cup of [TS]

  Crispin Glover through it was a weird [TS]

  weird character that's that's a pretty [TS]

  strong just get Andy magnet right there [TS]

  um Cronin is the uncomfortable neighbor [TS]

  who really likes talking about killing [TS]

  PTF now it shows up it always shows up [TS]

  or like in the middle entertainer [TS]

  because he's a lonely man yeah he'll [TS]

  just walk into the house at dinnertime [TS]

  it's my god he does all he has his [TS]

  mother and his murders [TS]

  that's a key plot point yea cantonese is [TS]

  lowest le yeah the way i read that [TS]

  character to as I kept sort of expecting [TS]

  that he would be blamed for a for a [TS]

  murder [TS]

  down the down the line because you know [TS]

  we always talk about murders me super [TS]

  creepy and kind of a weirdo [TS]

  he had an outbreak has happened to swing [TS]

  by with a basket of poison mushrooms [TS]

  just to explain how easy it would be to [TS]

  slip these on the people's food also i [TS]

  love the part where he poisons coffee [TS]

  with soda that's yeah oh yeah that was [TS]

  that was some great bending I don't get [TS]

  the mushrooms are poison that he brings [TS]

  over i think he just brings them as an [TS]

  example of much yes you can discuss [TS]

  poisoned by agents see these mushrooms [TS]

  because if i had not brought the visual [TS]

  aid you would had no idea what I was [TS]

  talking about [TS]

  he's a prop comic uncle Charlie just [TS]

  bounds up the stairs joyful that he's [TS]

  off the hook up and then he turns around [TS]

  and looks at young Charlie and realize [TS]

  oh god she knows i have to totally kill [TS]

  her yeah and so the remainder of the [TS]

  movie which at this point we've got like [TS]

  20 minutes half an hour left is just [TS]

  basically him trying to kill his niece [TS]

  over and over again and being really bad [TS]

  at it a couple things one is i love the [TS]

  scene where he's on the stairs their [TS]

  first there are a lot of staircases in [TS]

  this BS this movie is is this in case in [TS]

  the house in the back staircase that [TS]

  same i think it's all yes I and then [TS]

  he's full staircase staircase staircase [TS]

  yes i love the scene where Joseph Cotten [TS]

  gets to the top of the stairs and he [TS]

  just stops and you're still looking at [TS]

  his back you know you and and and he's [TS]

  just standing there and that's that [TS]

  realization that she's down there in the [TS]

  doorway looking at him and that this is [TS]

  going to be a problem and that's just a [TS]

  fantastic fantastic seen the other thing [TS]

  i want to mention is that the you will [TS]

  talk about movies we often talk about [TS]

  pacing and I I don't want to say this in [TS]

  a negative way I what I would let me [TS]

  phrase it this way if there were a [TS]

  modern retelling of this film we would [TS]

  get to the he's going to try to kill her [TS]

  repeatedly like 10 minutes in and then [TS]

  it would go on for two hours and that's [TS]

  not what happens in this movie there's [TS]

  like an hour of setup before we even get [TS]

  close to realizing where this movie is [TS]

  going to end up whereas a modern movie [TS]

  with just the whole movie would just be [TS]

  like final destination except it's [TS]

  Charlie trying to kill Charlie Charlie [TS]

  versus Charlie ok [TS]

  that could be what we call anyway so I [TS]

  appreciated that it was sort of it [TS]

  escalates to this moment and then we get [TS]

  this sort of frenzied last half hour [TS]

  where [TS]

  there's the back-and-forth of him trying [TS]

  to kill her and I think in a way that's [TS]

  why this is Hitchcock's favorite movie [TS]

  because it it is it is the slow build to [TS]

  perfection [TS]

  where where it builds and builds and [TS]

  builds and the tension increases [TS]

  throughout the movie until until the [TS]

  last act which is basically yeah things [TS]

  are happening and so there you go [TS]

  I mean there's that whole wonderful [TS]

  conversation about basically what is an [TS]

  earworm that goes for about five minutes [TS]

  early on because she can't get the song [TS]

  out of your head and then I think songs [TS]

  like that transfer from head-to-head and [TS]

  if I hum it long enough you'll think [TS]

  what it is and then he has to distract [TS]

  them before anyone realizes it's the [TS]

  merry widow you so who's who started off [TS]

  humming The Merry Widow I i missed on [TS]

  who it was that initiate that young [TS]

  charter yeah because there was another [TS]

  day telepathy thing [TS]

  yeah even you think you're the clever [TS]

  little girl who knows something [TS]

  there's so much you don't know so much [TS]

  what do you know really you're just an [TS]

  ordinary girl limited an ordinary little [TS]

  town you wake up every morning if your [TS]

  life and you know perfectly well that [TS]

  there's nothing in the world to trouble [TS]

  you [TS]

  you go through your ordinary little date [TS]

  night you sleep you're troubled ordinary [TS]

  little sleep filled with peaceful stupid [TS]

  dreams and I brought you nightmares [TS]

  Uncle Chuck broke the movie meter with [TS]

  that dialogue he at me [TS]

  that's a culturally to his beloved nice [TS]

  moments was when he was seven and he [TS]

  started talking that way that it was [TS]

  really creepy he tries to knock her down [TS]

  the stairs he tries to as asphyxiate ER [TS]

  in a in a garage with the door slams [TS]

  shut and she's stuck in there without [TS]

  which almost works [TS]

  yeah look are you know about human krone [TS]

  and saves the day destination doesn't [TS]

  rescuer just goes and tells everyone [TS]

  else that this was there when she wasn't [TS]

  did that seem like a red herring anybody [TS]

  else I almost felt as though [TS]

  oh they're going to indicate that he's [TS]

  actually the detective because no he [TS]

  didn't just happen to be walking by he [TS]

  was actually casing and keeping an eye [TS]

  on things and I was pretty surprised to [TS]

  find that no he was just being human [TS]

  Cronin I think they did that because it [TS]

  creates the stagecraft where uncle [TS]

  Charlie can put the keys back in the car [TS]

  and and make it look like it wasn't a [TS]

  total setup [TS]

  yeah because otherwise you say well how [TS]

  did this happen [TS]

  well someone was trying to kill her [TS]

  obviously was here it looks just like an [TS]

  accident uncle Charlie is the first into [TS]

  the into the garage which she is in that [TS]

  scene although he's got to get back [TS]

  first before anybody else doesn't kick [TS]

  the thing out from under the door [TS]

  you know right to carry it off as kind [TS]

  of a problem with a plan and I i think [TS]

  the only I don't think was that specific [TS]

  i think it was just because everybody [TS]

  else is inside the house when you're [TS]

  writing the screenplay oh well how did [TS]

  they find me easy he's also turned [TS]

  cranked up the radio but coincidentally [TS]

  two seconds into and news from knows [TS]

  from from washington state as hard for [TS]

  the cliq hey let's listen to some really [TS]

  loud music now why is it a lot of [TS]

  Charlie okies you like a nice you don't [TS]

  get the base until you crank it out [TS]

  which is actual line i think that it was [TS]

  like okay who do we have that's not in [TS]

  the house right now as a screenwriter [TS]

  Unicron ok whatever mobile just say he [TS]

  happened to be passing by there may have [TS]

  been humans suggestion i noticed i'm not [TS]

  in the scene guys [TS]

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  the reason that Charlie why I mean I I [TS]

  take the point that everybody likes him [TS]

  he's giving a speech or he's about to go [TS]

  when he tries a killer he's get going to [TS]

  go give a speech that's going to go down [TS]

  as one of the finest speeches in santa [TS]

  rosa history a minister says so Jason [TS]

  yeah this now you guys are right near [TS]

  santa rosa houses that speech stack up i [TS]

  sent over history [TS]

  I'm gonna have to check i just i think [TS]

  there's a plaque somewhere about Grayson [TS]

  Rosa home of the legendary 1947 speech [TS]

  by to the Unitarian you know by uncle [TS]

  Charlie I think Charles Schulz gave a [TS]

  speech a few years later that went over [TS]

  well but other than that it was known to [TS]

  Charlie they said no no your talk of [TS]

  peanuts interesting mr. Schultz but [TS]

  unless you mentioned phat weezy very [TS]

  without yeah i took my point is that [TS]

  young charlie is the thing that he's got [TS]

  over her that prevents her from telling [TS]

  anybody this you know it's not until the [TS]

  very very end that he's even well-liked [TS]

  in the town it's that it would break her [TS]

  mother's heart which is why i wanted to [TS]

  mention this because her mother is an [TS]

  idiot you know what else might break [TS]

  mom's heart when daughter dies mascot [TS]

  char math breaks her heart into it to [TS]

  his credit he does this really my [TS]

  sinister speed say well you could talk [TS]

  but you know you're ill ruin your mother [TS]

  and hey what about your dad's job at the [TS]

  bank you'll probably get fired from that [TS]

  your whole family's gonna be ruined only [TS]

  going to do is just not say anything and [TS]

  your family will still be perfectly fine [TS]

  you know periodically i'll try to kill [TS]

  you but you [TS]

  no you can ignore that it was just in [TS]

  this motley crew of like mental [TS]

  negatives you have to like maintain this [TS]

  this girl is so into the one person the [TS]

  cast who has a good head on her [TS]

  shoulders [TS]

  you wouldn't want your father to lose [TS]

  that job just when everybody decided he [TS]

  was quite a sport [TS]

  yeah I start asking how how how can i [TS]

  was talking a small wheel like him go [TS]

  for the pocket wristwatch of all things [TS]

  anyway I I her mother drives me nuts [TS]

  because she is just it is not a really [TS]

  great performance it is not our or [TS]

  character it's a difficult character to [TS]

  watch she's flighty and silly and [TS]

  pointless and I mean it gets across the [TS]

  fact that she'll be completely destroyed [TS]

  because she loves her she loves her [TS]

  brother so much that but yeah it's um I [TS]

  don't like that character at all [TS]

  yeah we don't hear about how she drove [TS]

  into a streetcar three times and are you [TS]

  but I think the lightness is quite [TS]

  intentional so that so that it's driven [TS]

  home that young Charlie's between a rock [TS]

  and a hard place yes I just don't like I [TS]

  I get why that character exist in that [TS]

  way i just don't really like that I i [TS]

  found that are really incredibly great [TS]

  character [TS]

  it did have the effect of making me [TS]

  think the two charlies are like i said [TS]

  at the top of the show the smartest [TS]

  people the sharpest people in this [TS]

  family by far i can see why they feel [TS]

  they have a connection because you know [TS]

  they're not sporting a new watch at the [TS]

  bank or doing whatever the heck it is [TS]

  that the mom is doing which is and the [TS]

  mom has that one moment of clarity right [TS]

  after the attempted murder in the garage [TS]

  where she's trying to piece it together [TS]

  in your oh you're so closer to 0 we [TS]

  asked you to think you have to agree [TS]

  with you on how she's extremely [TS]

  irritating but I do know that the scene [TS]

  where uh where the detectives are still [TS]

  trying to pull off their whole service [TS]

  commentary was regretting it because [TS]

  there's a 45-minute discussion about the [TS]

  proper time to break eggs and cake yeah [TS]

  you don't want to miss it hilarious that [TS]

  isn't like I can't cream the butter [TS]

  after I've broken the hay know let's [TS]

  let's linger on this though it is like a [TS]

  Monty Python cielo daughter documentary [TS]

  weekend for a documentary today [TS]

  come on [TS]

  yeah I don't know you can't photograph [TS]

  that Chad so we got the new sub clip [TS]

  cover over it but you're welcome to go [TS]

  film me as I wick egg in the remake [TS]

  cherry jones would play that part doing [TS]

  anything right the x-jet so uncle [TS]

  Charlie goes to give a speech [TS]

  yeah greatest coach ever leaving young [TS]

  Charlie behind since she nearly [TS]

  asphyxiated so why not you can't go to [TS]

  south and she nicely manipulates the [TS]

  situation this is the moment where she [TS]

  gets the upper hand on him she makes it [TS]

  so he has to go give the speech and she [TS]

  because he tried to kill her gets to [TS]

  stay behind unguarded in the house and [TS]

  go through his things and try to find [TS]

  incriminating evidence it's a really [TS]

  really nice moment where she yeah she [TS]

  maneuvers him and he knows she's doing [TS]

  it and there's nothing he can do about [TS]

  it and the incriminating evidence as it [TS]

  turns out is this ring that he gave her [TS]

  earlier in the movie and that that he [TS]

  then [TS]

  well she gave it back to him because she [TS]

  was disgusted give it back or did she [TS]

  just leave it at the library and it went [TS]

  in the library lost and found I feel [TS]

  better okay left it at the bar your you [TS]

  know and uh the ring has the engravings [TS]

  of one of the different window victims [TS]

  I guess I i was thinking charlie you [TS]

  know Uncle Charlie's really great [TS]

  shopping on a budget because it turns [TS]

  out that you can you can give away [TS]

  almost anything after you murdered [TS]

  somebody [TS]

  uh-huh one and that the the ring thing [TS]

  one of the things i love about this i [TS]

  mean because i love the exposition news [TS]

  network on the radio the newspaper that [TS]

  she finds at the library is so [TS]

  beautifully written it's not at all like [TS]

  a newspaper not be written but it tells [TS]

  you everything you need to know [TS]

  including the only victim whose initials [TS]

  match the ring [TS]

  none of the other victims we never learn [TS]

  anything else about any of them and the [TS]

  movie lingers on it for so long because [TS]

  you're expected to read every order oreo [TS]

  do that that's why you have to subscribe [TS]

  to the plot advancement Tribune that's [TS]

  right because it moves things right [TS]

  along [TS]

  yes we learn for all of her intellect [TS]

  Nancy is apparently a very slow reader [TS]

  can we also keep some praise upon that [TS]

  wonderful actress who played the part of [TS]

  the waitress who that who was it was it [TS]

  was in her class in high school never [TS]

  left out [TS]

  oh I can that's a real die that's a real [TS]

  emerald gee I can always tell that's not [TS]

  looking at it I don't even have to put [TS]

  it aside and have to ask you if it's [TS]

  real she had dirt on someone at the [TS]

  studio [TS]

  yeah either that or you're was her [TS]

  acting coach don't mind me [TS]

  I enjoy whatever duh now she was that [TS]

  was again I think that's a beautiful [TS]

  small town touch ya somethin yes [TS]

  rear-ended broken-down she's a sort of [TS]

  character that Bruce Springsteen sings [TS]

  about in songs i like the librarians I [TS]

  can't let you in i got a ride ology only [TS]

  five minutes and then you get the sense [TS]

  that this is like one of the smartest [TS]

  kids in town and she's always the [TS]

  library is Michael okay Charlie for you [TS]

  but if I let you in all those other [TS]

  hordes of people trying to get into the [TS]

  library after hours will have to be let [TS]

  in [TS]

  no I like 1i let one of you in I'm gonna [TS]

  have to let our right fine you got five [TS]

  minutes to get him I'm just kidding [TS]

  nobody else comes to the ones nobody [TS]

  else ever been to this library also have [TS]

  to just Charlie I have a friend who's a [TS]

  librarian and he easiest the librarian [TS]

  is the secret hero of them [TS]

  it's the little kid that's always [TS]

  reading ivanhoe that's in the library [TS]

  all the time yeah we have been talking [TS]

  about and how she's the Greek chorus of [TS]

  this movie even getting really good shot [TS]

  struck what time the library closes what [TS]

  did you do should know how much as you [TS]

  should [TS]

  that that would be Chekhov's library [TS]

  hours if you mention the library hours [TS]

  it has to come back [TS]

  she's got the smart little sister who is [TS]

  always commenting on the action that is [TS]

  happening in the movie which is I'm [TS]

  Ellie cousin Oliver I like to think of a [TS]

  complete with less uncle Charlie [TS]

  finishes his speech speech ever greatest [TS]

  speech ever [TS]

  there's a party downstairs and that and [TS]

  we're all invited [TS]

  yeah we are all invited the Episcopalian [TS]

  his ministers there and is often nothing [TS]

  for me and my wife thanks I that's very [TS]

  forward of the minutes but the rest of [TS]

  you should get loaded [TS]

  yeah pretend like we're not here ok well [TS]

  we won't see um because the clergy don't [TS]

  drink [TS]

  apparently anyhow two hours it's at this [TS]

  point that young Charlie soccer is down [TS]

  to chill [TS]

  down the stairs prominently displaying [TS]

  the ring that she is yes which is when [TS]

  Uncle Charlie says well the house and I [TS]

  hate to break it did you break it to you [TS]

  like yeah just gotta pick up the town [TS]

  widow and i'll be out here huh you don't [TS]

  want to leave town without a window that [TS]

  so yeah like that's gonna drag it was [TS]

  careless like milano cookies you may as [TS]

  well eat consume all the ones in that [TS]

  little layer and they take it out get [TS]

  what you see more widows goodness grand [TS]

  I mean you can't just one exactly the [TS]

  next day Charlie uncle Charlie is [TS]

  boarding the train out of town stupidly [TS]

  now he invites the kids to come on the [TS]

  train to see them off stupidly Charlie [TS]

  gets on the train with them [TS]

  yeah that this is the one really dumb [TS]

  things that the Charlie does movie not [TS]

  well I i really think so this is the one [TS]

  thing where he can't come on Charlie [TS]

  you're you're in full possession of the [TS]

  facts and you get on the train with your [TS]

  your murderous uncle and so yeah but [TS]

  she's protecting the kids the kids [TS]

  yeah I guess so and he does the matador [TS]

  thing where you like let the kids run [TS]

  along and it's like stop and then i'm [TS]

  not sure why she protects the kids [TS]

  because they're both horrible and really [TS]

  hard with anyone missed them know how [TS]

  many dads gonna be more concerned with [TS]

  his newspaper i'm not sure that the dad [TS]

  and mom would even notice they were gone [TS]

  for a couple of months while the mother [TS]

  certainly would but there's some little [TS]

  ones around here is my newspapers so [TS]

  much straighter now that they're wait a [TS]

  minute the kids are missing my brother [TS]

  is gone we left again I cannot stand it [TS]

  why don't care it's like I don't do the [TS]

  hot children with my brother is gone but [TS]

  human Cronin is there ya go whoo crowd [TS]

  they're using you know if I i put some [TS]

  baking powder in that cake instead of [TS]

  soda will be like always it uncle [TS]

  Charlie makes it so that the train is [TS]

  pulling out and Charlie's still on the [TS]

  train because it becomes quite prepared [TS]

  he's gonna throw her off the during just [TS]

  as soon as it gets up to speed but [TS]

  there's a struggle on young Charlie [TS]

  manages to grab onto a solid handle and [TS]

  uncle Charlie staggers off in fosston [TS]

  front of it [TS]

  oncoming train badly timed oncoming [TS]

  train [TS]

  bad luck for uncle Charlie there and [TS]

  he's dead [TS]

  yep that the entire town turns out to [TS]

  mourn him I young Charlie stands outside [TS]

  with FBI agent dark square jaw and and [TS]

  she says basically yeah he was terrible [TS]

  and he's dead now and you're the only [TS]

  one who knows how terribly was and and [TS]

  that's the end of the no no and that and [TS]

  then I can't believe we didn't mention [TS]

  at one point before the attempt on her [TS]

  life to love directional square just [TS]

  announces that he's in love with her [TS]

  yeah and it's known her for roughly two [TS]

  I don't want to go back to Washington [TS]

  you'll see me back but i'm not going to [TS]

  be here on business being an FBI agent [TS]

  is boring [TS]

  I just assume that's par for the course [TS]

  because this is in 1943 movie where [TS]

  heaven forfend there's a weave is going [TS]

  to marry you know exactly just comes out [TS]

  of nowhere although i do like the fact [TS]

  that he professed his love for her and [TS]

  she and she's like well you know never [TS]

  nice but I don't know and then but but [TS]

  then this is what happens when she is [TS]

  there alone and can call the cops he's [TS]

  nowhere to be found [TS]

  because he's I don't know he's not in [TS]

  fresno at that hotel but he said he was [TS]

  going to be at he's got a girl in every [TS]

  town where he investigates murder yeah [TS]

  but it again it's creepy because she's [TS]

  theoretically and he again seems like [TS]

  he's in his mid to late thirties so well [TS]

  that's the standard it was before do it [TS]

  existed you know near death at that [TS]

  point from some reasonable that the [TS]

  black death I think I'm bad humors [TS]

  ticket oh we're touching on the thing [TS]

  that I that I love the most about this [TS]

  movie though as opposed to later [TS]

  Hitchcock is that Charlie Teresa Wright [TS]

  is really in charge of her own destiny [TS]

  and in charge of her own salvation [TS]

  whereas later Hitchcock movies that the [TS]

  treatment of women is kind of a tough [TS]

  ball because but your psychos in your [TS]

  birds are basically Grace Kelly didn't [TS]

  love me show you must suffer to be angry [TS]

  whereas in this one square jaw can't [TS]

  save her she has to save herself and she [TS]

  she is the agent of her own [TS]

  rescue she she she figures out how to [TS]

  trap uncle Charlie and and and i really [TS]

  like that I think it's unusual among [TS]

  Hitchcock pictures particularly among [TS]

  the better-known Hitchcock pictures it [TS]

  Hitchcock brunettes fare better than [TS]

  Hitchcock blondes well absolutely [TS]

  yeah we reach the end of the of the [TS]

  synopsis what am I i obviously [TS]

  interrupted feel about 90 times I to get [TS]

  their of so what I want to ask before we [TS]

  you know move on to our next movie we [TS]

  should talk what we think about this [TS]

  movie as a whole we can we can point out [TS]

  some of the amusing things about it but [TS]

  what did what did you all think of the [TS]

  movie all all told Steve what about you [TS]

  I'm kind of two minds about it I you [TS]

  know the direction was great i really [TS]

  like the use of shadow in a lot of [TS]

  places since this movie has shadow in [TS]

  the title you have shadows in the film [TS]

  naturally I thought it was nicely tense [TS]

  and you know it ratcheted up pretty much [TS]

  throughout which I enjoyed I felt like [TS]

  the plot though could have been a lot [TS]

  better and I'm i'm going to blame it on [TS]

  Thornton Wilder because it was forced to [TS]

  read our town twice and twice about it I [TS]

  i feel like the film would have been a [TS]

  lot more effective if there had been [TS]

  some question as to Uncle Charlie's [TS]

  guilt and we weren't intimately aware [TS]

  early on that he was you know a murder [TS]

  he could still be creepy but he doesn't [TS]

  necessarily have to be so obviously it [TS]

  would be guilty of crimes but not [TS]

  horrible murders and material and your [TS]

  you kind of hope that he is and then [TS]

  later on it would be interesting if [TS]

  there was some question as to whether he [TS]

  was really responsible for the accidents [TS]

  that keep me falling young Charlie but [TS]

  again it's made abundantly clear that [TS]

  he's the one who you know locks her into [TS]

  the garage so I felt like it that could [TS]

  have made things a lot more interesting [TS]

  i can end that is a byproduct of 1943 [TS]

  probably probably it's probably just a [TS]

  they didn't want to make it to complex [TS]

  since you know the audiences were less [TS]

  jaded and it by other problem is is that [TS]

  it defies belief for me that anyone in [TS]

  town would not become suspicious of a [TS]

  guy who routinely launches into [TS]

  diatribes about horrible that feel [TS]

  greedy women and [TS]

  our table and almost you know starts [TS]

  starts accusing the father of [TS]

  embezzlement loudly at the bank [TS]

  yeah as though it's in a joking manner [TS]

  and does something similar to the bank [TS]

  president so I couldn't help but notice [TS]

  gosh she really enjoys miming strangling [TS]

  thing is that they were not wrong hands [TS]

  I think a lot of that is it is thrown in [TS]

  basically too well uncle Charlie he [TS]

  tells he has his jokes and and it's also [TS]

  told from the perspective of young [TS]

  Charlie where where she's seen these [TS]

  things through the eyes of a god he's [TS]

  really a box during these these are [TS]

  jokes these are terrible things [TS]

  why can't you people see i also find [TS]

  Charlie to be kind of a drip right [TS]

  nobody's no no no we're gonna find the [TS]

  only dripping this movie is FBI agent x [TS]

  squared and then she's a drip in the [TS]

  opening so gay which are I think young [TS]

  Charlie's first scene is so depressing [TS]

  haha [TS]

  there's nothing interesting in this town [TS]

  with all in a roxy is like you know [TS]

  granted stereo typical teenager [TS]

  uh-huh well but 18 come on 18 time to [TS]

  begin over that note nobody teenager or [TS]

  not who is remotely intelligent isn't [TS]

  going to rat out Charlie after the first [TS]

  or second time he's tried to kill her [TS]

  yes I just I find that hard to believe [TS]

  as well yeah but nobody would believe [TS]

  that's something right like oh yeah sure [TS]

  he cracked the state you know cut the [TS]

  stairs that why wouldn't a believer and [TS]

  why wouldn't she at least making a [TS]

  because everybody loves uncle Charlie [TS]

  I'm I don't think that's true though yet [TS]

  you gave the best speech ever in santa [TS]

  rosa concerned that's the whole thing I [TS]

  think defies belief me I enjoyed the [TS]

  movie let me just say that I i think [TS]

  overall it was the the direction and the [TS]

  tension were enough to carry it for me [TS]

  but you know i would like to see the [TS]

  plot be a little deeper and and less [TS]

  obviously false to my to my eyes anyway [TS]

  well I think we've learned that uncle [TS]

  Charlie is the only monster here and he [TS]

  wanted to go next [TS]

  I just right yeah I i agree with all [TS]

  that i think i like the movie I is I [TS]

  thought that was a classic example of a [TS]

  movie where [TS]

  you love all the pieces of this you just [TS]

  wish the pieces fit together a little [TS]

  bit more cleanly first edit in addition [TS]

  to the examples that are even cited when [TS]

  the you know [TS]

  assistant inspector Fred Mertz like [TS]

  takes Charlie sighs and now we're [TS]

  closing in on them so you know if he's [TS]

  gonna run away heels he's only gonna [TS]

  have a few hours to do that so I want to [TS]

  tell you about this because you know [TS]

  I've just been hit in the head with a [TS]

  coconut see and i forgot that I'm [TS]

  actually trying to capture him [TS]

  I'm about to I'm probably be hit by [TS]

  another coconut to remember that I'm [TS]

  supposed to be catching so you really [TS]

  should go and warn him right away I'm [TS]

  this is when I started thinking that oh [TS]

  so is this a double-cross is there are [TS]

  these not actual investigators there are [TS]

  actually the killers or associates of [TS]

  the killers and when you turns out that [TS]

  wasn't that was just know kind of a [TS]

  character doing dumb things that are [TS]

  contrary to their own purpose [TS]

  you're under oh ok i really wish that [TS]

  someone had circled that that page of [TS]

  the script and put a big red ? on it and [TS]

  handed it back to hitch [TS]

  all right Monty what do you think I [TS]

  thought it was a gorgeously shot movie [TS]

  like Steve said the shadows are great [TS]

  there's one scene on the top of the [TS]

  staircase where for no real reason [TS]

  they're just this amazing cabinet of dr. [TS]

  Caligari lighting going on the back wall [TS]

  and i also like to I think Charlie's on [TS]

  the phone and we're supposed to be given [TS]

  the impression that the phone calls have [TS]

  been going on for a while it's just fade [TS]

  to black [TS]

  they back up with Cameron farther back [TS]

  and in a completely random spot an angle [TS]

  and that happens a couple of time [TS]

  whether that was really effective [TS]

  I'm not sure whether this was a joke on [TS]

  purpose but remember that newspaper [TS]

  we're talking about when Charlie says [TS]

  going to fold a house heat air makes to [TS]

  tears in the paper starts to fold we cut [TS]

  away to the kid and then three seconds [TS]

  later there's this amazing paper mache [TS]

  and again he's good over there [TS]

  there are six papers delivered every [TS]

  single day they had they so much time so [TS]

  much of this material to figure out of [TS]

  clever things with he's got the strong [TS]

  strangling hands [TS]

  they're good at origami the newspaper [TS]

  industry was different than money [TS]

  I guess simplest most of the sales were [TS]

  for manufacturers of pirate hats paper [TS]

  houses boats i mostly like the movie i [TS]

  do have a lot of concerns about mostly [TS]

  just that newspaper scene because he's [TS]

  so bad at covering his tracks [TS]

  I'm not a baby uncle Charlie well that [TS]

  combined with his rants about how [TS]

  windows are bad and should die i think [TS]

  our to decide if you wanted to keep it [TS]

  on the down low but nobody noticed that [TS]

  with the newspaper even these idiots [TS]

  were like what are you doing hiding [TS]

  something [TS]

  hey there's a page missing you missing a [TS]

  page that newspaper [TS]

  hey everybody its gonna flip out early [TS]

  had this paper and there's a painting [TS]

  this thing folded nice and dad won't [TS]

  notice actually there's a really good [TS]

  chance that dad was only 26 pages in [TS]

  this newspaper [TS]

  it's a very small this week McNamara's [TS]

  missing well that's across is that that [TS]

  he is an uncontrollable maniac right i [TS]

  mean he can't he can't stop his urges [TS]

  he's going to kill the widows and tear [TS]

  newspapers that's what he's going to do [TS]

  and you know other widows yeah I liked [TS]

  it yeah yeah good David what about you [TS]

  I mean I've like this 14 years I I can [TS]

  you know i love look visually and love [TS]

  you know again the shadows the [TS]

  staircases i love the fact that usually [TS]

  Hitchcock lets you see characters think [TS]

  so you know you see just gotten thinking [TS]

  on the staircase for a minute you see [TS]

  the you know in the beginning when he [TS]

  just walks right past the the guys [TS]

  waiting on the street corner for him and [TS]

  and you see them think for a minute ago [TS]

  is that the guy we should follow let's [TS]

  follow and you know so heat so he lets [TS]

  you see the characters think for a [TS]

  minute [TS]

  they may not all be capable of thinking [TS]

  but still you know and one things that I [TS]

  i noticed this time through who the [TS]

  parallels between the Charlie's in the [TS]

  beginning the first time we see both of [TS]

  them they're lying in bed and they're [TS]

  just when someone else is talking to [TS]

  them and drawing things out of them and [TS]

  as the movie goes on you know you know [TS]

  she makes the point of [TS]

  oh I I was that's why I was named for [TS]

  right and we have something in common [TS]

  and I can sense things that you keep [TS]

  secret and I know things about you know [TS]

  we have this connection and and we know [TS]

  through the movie they diverge but in [TS]

  the beginning it's very clear that there [TS]

  they have this bond so that i think is [TS]

  also part of why she doesn't she takes [TS]

  so long to come to recesses and more and [TS]

  more about you [TS]

  i like it like a lot of these folks I i [TS]

  really enjoyed the execution of it it's [TS]

  a great-looking film I think Joseph [TS]

  Cotten entries right both to awesome in [TS]

  this movie that is fantastic for [TS]

  especially just got a new appears [TS]

  between the like charming debonair [TS]

  dashing fellow and really scarily [TS]

  psychotic guy because there's some good [TS]

  scenes you know especially like when she [TS]

  digs out the piece of newspaper from his [TS]

  jacket and we get the you know trademark [TS]

  Hitchcock POV seymour really you know [TS]

  where the camera and we're looking at [TS]

  him and you see this entire face sort of [TS]

  collapse and you get angry and starts [TS]

  yelling you know and ask the audience [TS]

  essentially at that point is where the [TS]

  stand-in he does such a good job of [TS]

  going back and forth just [TS]

  instantaneously between being terrifying [TS]

  and supercharged like maybe a little [TS]

  sleet charming but like you know [TS]

  friendly and jovial and so II and even [TS]

  the other characters i think if you even [TS]

  if they don't seem to quite fit and they [TS]

  are a little ridiculous at times I still [TS]

  enjoy most of them i really like a [TS]

  hundred traverse as the father just [TS]

  because he's got a very matter-of-fact [TS]

  way of talking about think I just enjoy [TS]

  i really enjoy his inhuman Cronin's [TS]

  discussions of the murder it's just [TS]

  they're just so delightfully charming [TS]

  because it is this whole idea of this is [TS]

  it's a boring little town nothing ever [TS]

  happens here you know and and all the [TS]

  people are nice and and picturesque in [TS]

  the the family surveys come around [TS]

  because they want the typical American [TS]

  family and yet always talking about [TS]

  murder and terrible things all the time [TS]

  and I think it's just you know it's a [TS]

  great commentary i love it [TS]

  all right fill up i guess i need to fill [TS]

  in the blanks here and say I liked it I [TS]

  liked some of the comments here I I sort [TS]

  of see this and think it could have been [TS]

  even better if and maybe you know it was [TS]

  just of the time and it was going to be [TS]

  what it was going to be but I I feel [TS]

  like your moments where it could have [TS]

  even better at doing the things that did [TS]

  well and yeah the mom really annoyed be [TS]

  and i found the FB hi to be amusingly [TS]

  incompetent especially when you throw in [TS]

  the declaration of love that happens [TS]

  later in the film i love you Charlie [TS]

  that was just a few terrible bizarre i [TS]

  was like falling in love with all of my [TS]

  cut [TS]

  but this is this film is about the leads [TS]

  and they're great [TS]

  so that's all I think Phil what you [TS]

  bring it home well as I said I I laid my [TS]

  cards on the table early i think this is [TS]

  Hitchcock's best movie i love the the [TS]

  small-town elements of it and as as I [TS]

  think even this film's harshest critics [TS]

  will point out i think Joseph Cotten and [TS]

  and uh Teresa Wright do a do a fantastic [TS]

  job playing off each other in it it [TS]

  really is a fantastic movie i think in [TS]

  many respects and I I i do love how the [TS]

  tension builds throughout I got a couple [TS]

  of favorite lines i gotta throw out [TS]

  there before we move on I like the line [TS]

  where and is hopping on the sidewalk and [TS]

  she says proudly to the detective I [TS]

  brought my mother's back three times in [TS]

  his response is not bad [TS]

  step on a crack break your mother's back [TS]

  yep i just really like it's just your [TS]

  father's way of relaxing for the [TS]

  discussion about murder [TS]

  yeah the other line i wanted to mention [TS]

  was at the end where they're discussing [TS]

  what transpired the detective and young [TS]

  Charlie and the did Dirk square job [TS]

  states that the world seems to go crazy [TS]

  every now and then like your uncle [TS]

  Charlie fact real tactful Graham realtek [TS]

  one line that entertained me not for the [TS]

  shallow reason you think was wine for [TS]

  dinner sounds so gay [TS]

  no it's not because of that just because [TS]

  what else are you drinking wine yeah [TS]

  that was that was that was that [TS]

  yes did not not just the the use of [TS]

  words then and now but for the idea of [TS]

  like normally we just eat cardboard and [TS]

  drink tap water we drink our wine [TS]

  starting at eleven o'clock in the [TS]

  morning i feel it's true for most of the [TS]

  members of this family [TS]

  I'm not talking about murder i'm talking [TS]

  about me killing her and her giving me [TS]

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  incomparable alright let's move let's [TS]

  speaking a murder [TS]

  let's talk about road adapted by human [TS]

  crewman yeah there's your connection [TS]

  take the plan adapted for the screen for [TS]

  his good friend out there is a [TS]

  connection between these two [TS]

  yes interesting yes so people who were [TS]

  in it's a wonderful less automatic [TS]

  connection to him crown and who is pitch [TS]

  cocks music apparently there's not to be [TS]

  much plot recap here because there's no [TS]

  plot this is the this is a the bottle [TS]

  episode of Hitchcock movies yes [TS]

  you want to spend one of two one of two [TS]

  lifeboat being the iphone is the other [TS]

  one it's a Colombo that's exactly what i [TS]

  thought this is sunshine colombo yeah he [TS]

  even walks out and then comes back in [TS]

  yeah yeah yeah she's I hate to bother [TS]

  you but one watching one more thing I [TS]

  forgot to mention I was 11 my life that [TS]

  i forgot to mention that you've [TS]

  misinterpreted my lectures about the [TS]

  inhumanity of man and heavy right to [TS]

  kill admit I didn't really mean it like [TS]

  that i feel really bad i hate to but I [TS]

  need to check the trunk now I got used [TS]

  to have a chest just like this it could [TS]

  I look inside this chest because it [TS]

  would be shuttered members for me as a [TS]

  child I should play with this catch [TS]

  I know mrs. never comes to these kind of [TS]

  party i know i said everybody should be [TS]

  murdered but I didn't mean everybody [TS]

  should be murdered [TS]

  I don't feel like I have to recap it [TS]

  yeah we're done [TS]

  so it's a baby basically Brandon and [TS]

  Phillip are our two are are are a gay [TS]

  couple good friends good friends so they [TS]

  are an accessory little bit this is I [TS]

  love em it's never discussed but it's [TS]

  just they're having students some [TS]

  reading on this movie and it talks about [TS]

  well the homosexual subtext I scraped [TS]

  out some subjects [TS]

  oh no it is not i gotta be honest I did [TS]

  not I did not get that initially in fact [TS]

  the only reason the only because they're [TS]

  fresh out of college they could very [TS]

  easily be respect and just bury and is [TS]

  talking about how he previously dated [TS]

  Janet the oh oh yeah yeah so anyway [TS]

  they're they're very they're a couple [TS]

  and they have this apartment in there [TS]

  they've planned to some amazing apart [TS]

  and when we first see them they are [TS]

  strangling somebody to death [TS]

  this is the thing if you're complaining [TS]

  about shadow of a doubt is boy they [TS]

  really didn't leave much in the way of [TS]

  doubt as to what their uncle Charlie's [TS]

  but they don't have this will know this [TS]

  because this is colombo that's the whole [TS]

  point of this movie that opening shot [TS]

  right as soon as the soon as the credits [TS]

  and they are strengthening their 330 [TS]

  incidentally david i-i love how idyllic [TS]

  the music is during the opening credits [TS]

  like the opening credits music yes it [TS]

  sounds like this is going to be a lovely [TS]

  piano Rob through mr. shadow of a doubt [TS]

  to but it's getting late [TS]

  he's here because that gigantic dramatic [TS]

  title card that says rope in the crazy [TS]

  fog comes up and then this string swell [TS]

  and it's sort of a lovely lilt no it [TS]

  doesn't go dark until we pan into you [TS]

  know the apartment essentially it's like [TS]

  although the curtains are drawn that's a [TS]

  little we all god somebody's being [TS]

  strangled right now has somehow [TS]

  streaming as he's being strangled which [TS]

  is a bit odd I thought yeah [TS]

  yes so so the the conceited this movie [TS]

  is that the entire film other than the [TS]

  opening shot where there's a there's a [TS]

  cut if robert zemeckis had been directed [TS]

  miss it would have gone through that [TS]

  window and through those curtains and [TS]

  all the way in but Hitchcock just cuts [TS]

  from me from the outside to the inside [TS]

  but we spend the entire time in this [TS]

  apartment the entire film is there it is [TS]

  the bottle episode but but not just the [TS]

  location but the fact that these are [TS]

  continuous takes each goes for about 10 [TS]

  minutes and then we we linger for a [TS]

  moment to ponder the back of somebody's [TS]

  can assume into somebody's jacket yeah [TS]

  there are several cuts though which is [TS]

  we always strange me because I think [TS]

  they go unnoticed refuse because it you [TS]

  kind of went out but there are several [TS]

  just like jump cuts yet are slow [TS]

  charging but but purposeful in the [TS]

  replacement like i said i think those [TS]

  actually probably are better than the [TS]

  zoom into the jacket shot yeah I don't [TS]

  like a turd in a punch but the gimmick [TS]

  cuts are super distracting to me because [TS]

  I spent the whole movie watching for [TS]

  them the jump cuts are because they had [TS]

  to physically change the real story is [TS]

  in the projectors so he he said I don't [TS]

  need to cover those they have to change [TS]

  them anyway so Brandt Brandon Phillips I [TS]

  have committed what they what they hope [TS]

  is the perfect murder for certain values [TS]

  of murderers as as John doll who plays [TS]

  Brandon says over and over and we pause [TS]

  here and examine how this could possibly [TS]

  be the perfect murder when they have [TS]

  absolutely no plan other than kill the [TS]

  guy [TS]

  well you take advantage of the country [TS]

  and cook in Connecticut and then you [TS]

  just dump his body in the lake and never [TS]

  know I i think their arguments they have [TS]

  no motive that they have they have no [TS]

  motive also also they've got they've [TS]

  phoned from the done a fake phone call [TS]

  from the city to say that [TS]

  hi I'm David I'm definitely alive and [TS]

  i'll definitely see you three hours [TS]

  later went to disguise where they are i [TS]

  think there's a lot of this plot we [TS]

  haven't we [TS]

  get the sea but I think the best thing [TS]

  would be completely completely [TS]

  appropriate this guy's arrogance is just [TS]

  that it's perfect is that I've seen I've [TS]

  looked small angles and only Son my [TS]

  genius could ya that's what happened [TS]

  with Leopold and Loeb is there yeah they [TS]

  had the perfect murder and it fell apart [TS]

  immediately even for that if if even if [TS]

  it had the initial part had worked out [TS]

  it's so unbelievably poor of a plan [TS]

  there's no way they could possibly have [TS]

  gotten away with it it's absurd yeah [TS]

  they're basically Batman villains one of [TS]

  the closest friends GI who are we going [TS]

  to question they go out of their way to [TS]

  invite people to the scene of the crime [TS]

  people that are looking for the person [TS]

  who's dead [TS]

  that's for arrogance that's the showing [TS]

  off this is the crux of the movie that's [TS]

  not a mistake that is here here it was a [TS]

  mistake i said it was like being a [TS]

  Batman villain take a look at the kind [TS]

  of people were dealing with here that [TS]

  it's not enough that they would just [TS]

  simply kill somebody for stored they [TS]

  would also want to make sure that if [TS]

  that they know that [TS]

  oh my god we actually had the body out [TS]

  in the middle of the room and nobody [TS]

  knew it aren't we brilliant yes this [TS]

  this is an rands dead poets society [TS]

  let's put let's put candles on it let [TS]

  surface lid on it let's invite the [TS]

  parents to the party give the dad the [TS]

  murder weapon exactly arguing [TS]

  surprisingly loud voice about the murder [TS]

  in full view day uh they shove poor poor [TS]

  David's body into a trunk and then [TS]

  decide hey we're gonna have a dinner [TS]

  party let's serve dinner on the trunk [TS]

  and as jason says they put the [TS]

  candelabras up there and they've invited [TS]

  David's father and what turns out to be [TS]

  his Dowager aunt I guess they've invited [TS]

  David's girlfriend invited the former [TS]

  boyfriend of David's girlfriend and most [TS]

  importantly they've invited the beloved [TS]

  a headmaster from their prep school who [TS]

  is played by Jimmy Stewart to attend the [TS]

  party as well and Jimmy's that was their [TS]

  first mistake never bring Jimmy story [TS]

  ya ever bring Jimmy Stewart to any party [TS]

  well did you love David because you know [TS]

  I understand you have to kill him that [TS]

  haha call back to earlier that's his [TS]

  deep cut I spent much of the movie [TS]

  confusing John doll for [TS]

  young Jimmy Stewart I i think the it's [TS]

  interesting the day and they talk about [TS]

  him as a potential co-conspirator and [TS]

  then right at but uh but uh who's the I [TS]

  who's the idea man is that is that [TS]

  Brandon Brandon is bringing yeah [TS]

  Brandon's the idea man Brandon's like I [TS]

  he wouldn't have the guts to pull it off [TS]

  you know we he believes in it from an [TS]

  idea standpoint but not he couldn't [TS]

  actually do it but i like that they have [TS]

  this fantasy that that Jimmy Stewart is [TS]

  one of them or almost one of them and [TS]

  they invite him sort of glee of like oh [TS]

  he gets to be part of this thing the [TS]

  idea sort of germinated in long [TS]

  discussions they had with him and he was [TS]

  there housemaster right so now that [TS]

  they're his ideas that they're putting [TS]

  into practice here I did they get sad [TS]

  that poor Farley Granger is always [TS]

  getting talked into murdering people [TS]

  actually know you know once is an [TS]

  accident by strangers on the train yes [TS]

  that's but that's the other genius of [TS]

  love just how this is constructed where [TS]

  you feel as though it's not unjust [TS]

  enough for this guy to plot a murder [TS]

  committed murder just for fun and then [TS]

  again have the dinner party with the [TS]

  body of the open [TS]

  he also is getting this big rise out of [TS]

  i have basically talked and browbeat [TS]

  this person into being my accomplice in [TS]

  this murder even though he has apps he [TS]

  does not share my belief system that [TS]

  people should die for my amusement [TS]

  I mean there's there's a little bit of a [TS]

  corollary between him and uncle Charlie [TS]

  I think from shadow of a doubt like both [TS]

  of whom kind of seem to believe that [TS]

  they are above above morals no I don't [TS]

  know I i feel as though you're Charlie's [TS]

  just seriously bent whereas this person [TS]

  is just such as as a psychopathic [TS]

  behavior and so yeah he's really [TS]

  grounded [TS]

  well he's on his way he's younger me as [TS]

  if there's a there's a difference [TS]

  between like the deserts of seeing the [TS]

  entire world is pray [TS]

  meaning that i'm a killing stalking [TS]

  beast that kills furfrou but if if [TS]

  you've got something that costs eighty [TS]

  dollars and I need that a dar think [TS]

  you're dead because that's what's power [TS]

  value human life it's another thing to [TS]

  simply say im bored I think I'll kill [TS]

  that person because the internet was [TS]

  attended the whole experiment the whole [TS]

  like rationale given by jimmy stewart is [TS]

  are talking about murder is justifiable [TS]

  way of what you want you want to get [TS]

  into the restaurant you [TS]

  get theater tickets like I think that [TS]

  the there is a overriding philosophy [TS]

  thereof you know it feels like [TS]

  everybody's stupid should be he should [TS]

  be able to kill anybody stupid that he [TS]

  wants to like he may not be at uncle [TS]

  Charlie levels yet of thinking the whole [TS]

  world's a joke but like if he kept going [TS]

  for a while he would definitely end up [TS]

  there [TS]

  well I mean that's part of why he's [TS]

  invited the the former boyfriend of the [TS]

  girl friend is like well if we get David [TS]

  out of the way they're actually a better [TS]

  couple you know we'll we'll shove them [TS]

  back together and it's it's all social [TS]

  engineering [TS]

  although I mean not there anything that [TS]

  he cares about right like he doesn't [TS]

  actually care about the happiness of [TS]

  either of those people right you just [TS]

  want to be manipulative exactly i think [TS]

  that might have been part of his plan [TS]

  though to cover for what why isn't David [TS]

  hero well he must have known that I was [TS]

  gonna be here so we just decided not to [TS]

  come that too or that you did [TS]

  come that too or that you did [TS]

  invite him because you just want to [TS]

  manipulate us into like being feeling [TS]

  awkward about the fact that we used to [TS]

  be in a relationship [TS]

  my favorite thing in this is probably [TS]

  the scene where and you know this [TS]

  happens at several points where the [TS]

  cameras view is not where the action is [TS]

  yeah or at least not when attacking not [TS]

  where the talking is and it is an animal [TS]

  and the bettin it happened several times [TS]

  the best one is as we very slowly watch [TS]

  the housekeeper's still cleaning up the [TS]

  stronger because she's going to take all [TS]

  the stuff off of the trunk and then open [TS]

  the trunk and put all the books in the [TS]

  trunk with thereby revealing the dead [TS]

  body one of the best suspense moments i [TS]

  think in any Hitchcock it's just amazing [TS]

  and there's no music and it's just a [TS]

  conversation and she walks all the way [TS]

  down the hall she's so smitten kitchen [TS]

  walks all the way better walks all the [TS]

  way down the hall again you know it's [TS]

  just it's enjoyed every time she gets a [TS]

  little closer your breath catches in [TS]

  this conversation happening and you have [TS]

  at several points in this film this [TS]

  overlapped conversation sorry Robert [TS]

  Altman asked in bits and it's like the [TS]

  point is not it's a dinner party let [TS]

  people are having different [TS]

  conversations at different places and [TS]

  that's all the hubbub is happening while [TS]

  we very slowly watch and that is just [TS]

  the realization it starts and it just [TS]

  keeps getting worse and worse that she [TS]

  is going to open that trunk and it's [TS]

  amazing and for people who aren't [TS]

  familiar with the scene it's not as [TS]

  though all they're just gonna have to [TS]

  like lift up the truck it's no it's [TS]

  completely set there's a tablecloth on [TS]

  it like empty their use plates on their [TS]

  candelabra on top of it every single [TS]

  layer it's like okay not going to blow [TS]

  out the candle state the candelabra way [TS]

  walk walk walk walk walk walk away walk [TS]

  back and only take all the guys got this [TS]

  train I'd take all these empty plates [TS]

  walk walk walk walk walk walk walk walk [TS]

  walk away it yet all the while you are [TS]

  rushing to the conclusion so that you [TS]

  get there way before she is physically [TS]

  able to get to that point and that [TS]

  creates some amazing suspense it is a [TS]

  fantastic see and the shot ends with the [TS]

  shadow of somebody suddenly walking in [TS]

  which is really impressive when you [TS]

  realize they needed to do special [TS]

  lighting just actually cast a shadow on [TS]

  the ground shot that got me even before [TS]

  that though was actually tweeted up [TS]

  because i was just i just love this shot [TS]

  so much watching us rewatching in the [TS]

  afternoon and those watchin on the iPad [TS]

  and just the shot where ever known ever [TS]

  since the dinner party's in full swing [TS]

  nobody has any suspicion anything's [TS]

  going on and then there's a conversation [TS]

  that there's a casual shot of jimmy [TS]

  stewart and then he just holds on that [TS]

  shot for I had time it out more than 20 [TS]

  seconds just count yourself right now [TS]

  not right now but like think about how [TS]

  long 20 seconds really is and imagine [TS]

  that it's just that the cameras not [TS]

  pulling in it's just a static shot of [TS]

  him listening to these two murderers [TS]

  talk idly and you sense that there's [TS]

  this little thing happening in the back [TS]

  of Jimmy stores eyes that's I don't know [TS]

  what's wrong but something's very wrong [TS]

  here and that's the first things i see a [TS]

  thread dangling at the end of this cable [TS]

  knit sweater and keep pulling start [TS]

  pulling on that thread until this whole [TS]

  thing comes apart if I can tip my hand [TS]

  here [TS]

  the reason i picked this movie is [TS]

  because i think it's indicative of [TS]

  Hitchcock's approach to a suspense movie [TS]

  and I'm going to paraphrase a quote that [TS]

  he once said where it basically a good [TS]

  suspense movie is the audience knows [TS]

  that there's a bomb and that it's gonna [TS]

  go off at one o'clock and no one no one [TS]

  on the screen knows that it's gonna go [TS]

  off at one o'clock and they're talking [TS]

  about all these trivial matters and all [TS]

  this the stupidity and the audience is [TS]

  sitting there going to come are doled [TS]

  oh and that and that is basically what [TS]

  he doesn't rope and i followed the way I [TS]

  heard it and I was gonna say this too is [TS]

  that you know if if you show two guys [TS]

  having a conversation at the table and [TS]

  it's the most boring thing in the world [TS]

  and after 10 minutes the table blows up [TS]

  you've got a quick shock and all it blew [TS]

  up [TS]

  but if you start the shot from under the [TS]

  table and you see the bomb and then you [TS]

  come up you the exact same boring [TS]

  conversation but the whole time you like [TS]

  get out of the way it's gonna blow yeah [TS]

  you know in the most boring thing is is [TS]

  exciting of the opening shot of [TS]

  touch of evil or some movie yeah exactly [TS]

  what the bomb in the car i was thinking [TS]

  of inglourious basterds yeah also be out [TS]

  with onion floor [TS]

  yeah like there's this long conversation [TS]

  that doesn't go anywhere but oh god what [TS]

  if you look over there [TS]

  similar i think when i when i watch this [TS]

  for a film class at some point you talk [TS]

  about the difference between surprise [TS]

  and suspense we're just surprised as you [TS]

  know everybody on the screen you know [TS]

  it's the jump scaring in a horror movie [TS]

  where the killer jumps out with a knife [TS]

  right and the people on the screen are [TS]

  surprised and you are also surprised the [TS]

  audience but now like Phillip saying you [TS]

  and the audience have been let in on the [TS]

  secret you know something that the [TS]

  characters don't and that's where the [TS]

  tension starts to exist and that is why [TS]

  he's so good at yeah i think because a [TS]

  psycho and birds Hitchcock wrongly gets [TS]

  painted with the the more movie brush [TS]

  and he doesn't do horror movies he does [TS]

  he does suspense movies and and really [TS]

  does spine movies too [TS]

  yeah where where where it's it's tension [TS]

  and you know what's gonna happen but the [TS]

  characters don't know what's gonna [TS]

  happen and and how in the hell are they [TS]

  gonna get out of this and that's that [TS]

  that that's what makes this movie's [TS]

  interesting what do we never see do we [TS]

  ever see Jimmy Stewart come in [TS]

  no he just appears just appears he's [TS]

  coming down the hall when we are [TS]

  distract we're distracted elsewhere he's [TS]

  been talked about i really like that and [TS]

  then and then he suddenly they're not [TS]

  all that works so effectively probably [TS]

  know season because we know because we [TS]

  know that voice and we know that person [TS]

  i think that i think that's what makes [TS]

  that work but it's great because he's [TS]

  the one they've been kind of waiting to [TS]

  see and it's also the hammer dropping of [TS]

  like here's the complication these other [TS]

  people are probably not a problem [TS]

  this guy is going to be a problem right [TS]

  and they start to get John doll gets [TS]

  nervous he freaks out right Brandon [TS]

  freaks out like you he starts stuttering [TS]

  and Jimmy Stewart notices that Yunis [TS]

  stuttering yeah very excited [TS]

  yeah I was mad about that line he says [TS]

  you always did stutter when you were [TS]

  excited if anyone in the world doesn't [TS]

  get to make fun of someone stuttering [TS]

  it's Jimmy school I just love that it's [TS]

  almost full 20 minutes before even [TS]

  appear yeah and we keep hearing about [TS]

  him and he's the important guests and [TS]

  just like Colombo yeah i like to put in [TS]

  a good word both for John doll hero [TS]

  unfortunate didn't really go on to my [TS]

  chels but he's really likes marmol [TS]

  Ygritte in this role so psychopath again [TS]

  like just disturbed and also i want to [TS]

  put in a really good word for drunk [TS]

  Farley Granger who is my favorite part [TS]

  was nothing just gets increasingly drunk [TS]

  as the camera pans away from it goes [TS]

  back it was just increasingly [TS]

  nonsensical got a John Doe gave me a [TS]

  Cumberbatch kind of ya feel that very [TS]

  similar kind of kind of feeling there I [TS]

  liked him a lot of a reptilian yeah [TS]

  and-and-and yet drunk Phillips trunk [TS]

  Phillip is awesome and so is drunk [TS]

  fairly green happened what increasingly [TS]

  out of control and you know and again [TS]

  you don't want to take Brandon side but [TS]

  you have that moment where you're like I [TS]

  love ya [TS]

  we want to just pop that's funny but you [TS]

  do take you to take brand is I'd almost [TS]

  almost up until the point where Jimmy [TS]

  Stewart returns and does colombo yeah [TS]

  because you're you're wondering how [TS]

  these guys gonna get caught and the [TS]

  tension there is not I hope somebody [TS]

  figures what out what's going on it's [TS]

  actually doesn't yeah everything is [TS]

  alright and then and then Jimmy Stewart [TS]

  turns up again and brandon has a gun and [TS]

  you realize that he's in real danger and [TS]

  then you're on Stuart side is very much [TS]

  like a Colombo also in that you do sort [TS]

  of want to root for the killer you want [TS]

  him to get away with it because you know [TS]

  Colombo is so good and you know he's not [TS]

  gonna get away [TS]

  yeah okay well yes and no I it it did [TS]

  rip it right me of colombo for almost [TS]

  exactly that reason but the thing is [TS]

  something it's not about finding out who [TS]

  the killer is or if you're gonna come to [TS]

  justice because you kind of know that [TS]

  they're going to get caught it really is [TS]

  what are we going to learn about this [TS]

  killer over the course of this these [TS]

  events especially as the pressure mounts [TS]

  and mounts and mounts how are they going [TS]

  to react to it are they going to [TS]

  increase sometimes some of the Colombo's [TS]

  they just increasingly are reason they [TS]

  know that ok I'm on borrowed time but i [TS]

  can do a few things to maybe by myself [TS]

  more time but I know this isn't it is [TS]

  inevitable their self-delusion sometimes [TS]

  and sometimes i'm going to double down [TS]

  on this I but watching watching Philip [TS]

  watching Farley Granger just unspool is [TS]

  exact [TS]

  the reason why you love this but that [TS]

  there's something there's so many [TS]

  there's so many shots there's so many [TS]

  shots you just love about this and some [TS]

  of them were just looks so cheeseball if [TS]

  they were not being done by a master how [TS]

  about he's getting it will have Farley [TS]

  Granger playing piano just sort of like [TS]

  to bleed off some of the tension and [TS]

  look casual and Jimmy Stewart just sort [TS]

  of Saunders off and say oh you're such a [TS]

  good piano player can't believe that I [TS]

  didn't think that we would have a [TS]

  metronome and he starts ticking [TS]

  yeah which is super distracting if [TS]

  you're trying to play piano intro page [TS]

  of dialogue something not just the [TS]

  slider to get go faster and faster and [TS]

  faster and using that Granger is not [TS]

  playing faster but he's making more [TS]

  mistakes now I like oh you just want to [TS]

  rewind and play that back because oh [TS]

  good heavens that is brilliant the great [TS]

  bit there is when it seems like Jimmy [TS]

  Stewart is getting off track and and [TS]

  Phillip starts to laugh and the tempo [TS]

  slows down and it starts you know [TS]

  becoming less and less dissonant and [TS]

  then Rupert kind of gets a little closer [TS]

  to the truth again and it speeds up [TS]

  again and and the whole thing starts a [TS]

  new it's just it's a fantastic scene [TS]

  when just the choreography of this i [TS]

  mean it it was based on stage play and [TS]

  it has the feel of a play [TS]

  yes film which a lot of movies that are [TS]

  adapted darkness [TS]

  it is very staging but the thing I love [TS]

  about it is just just the sheer [TS]

  choreography that had to go into it not [TS]

  just that it was the continuous takes [TS]

  but you know the walls and the furniture [TS]

  sliding in and out having to put the [TS]

  furniture back and have the camera one [TS]

  really huge cameras of the time yeah [TS]

  related on the scenery that just the [TS]

  Cyclorama behind it it's not a painting [TS]

  you know you've got lights coming on in [TS]

  buildings and still only other families [TS]

  and our got spun glass clouds that are [TS]

  moving through the whole thing and [TS]

  apparently he reshot the second half of [TS]

  the movie because he wasn't satisfied [TS]

  with the sunset [TS]

  yeah it's staging but the camera is [TS]

  always moving around and going to angles [TS]

  with the set [TS]

  you clearly could stage it so everybody [TS]

  just playing straight out and you should [TS]

  like i love lucy and [TS]

  right yeah but it i think you get a full [TS]

  view I think you get like three and 60° [TS]

  at some point where you see just about [TS]

  every angle of the room which you don't [TS]

  usually get the movie too [TS]

  well then you up the difficulty factor [TS]

  by insisting on doing eight-minute takes [TS]

  forever yeah something goes wrong in [TS]

  minutes 6 it's like oh well get another [TS]

  real in there let's get going again if [TS]

  I'm TV trivia is to be believed you know [TS]

  you have like cat camera people being [TS]

  having their feet run over by cameras [TS]

  and and like he dragged off to screen [TS]

  your way from the back so like a civil [TS]

  war Hospital in there there's so much [TS]

  you don't consider until you start [TS]

  thinking about that because I was also [TS]

  really probably the same articles you [TS]

  were I think I didn't think about that [TS]

  because these are huge cameras and [TS]

  they're huge like transatlantic pipeline [TS]

  cables connecting everything up and so [TS]

  all these actors have to like being [TS]

  stolen from the waist up while they're [TS]

  like hopscotching over these moving [TS]

  cables 31st the seam I feel like the the [TS]

  opening sequence we're looking through [TS]

  the curtains is probably a nod to the [TS]

  fact that this is basically a stage play [TS]

  being yes the current era it doesn't [TS]

  actually open but we get the impression [TS]

  i think maybe my favorite visual gag in [TS]

  the whole movie is you know when they [TS]

  open with the side curtains and there's [TS]

  that neon sign that is literally right [TS]

  on top of there ready to rain yeah and [TS]

  and it's just there and and so it's kind [TS]

  of this joke of you know here is this [TS]

  neon blinking the whole time right this [TS]

  neon in the middle now we know why he's [TS]

  insane [TS]

  well and but then at the end you know [TS]

  now it's discovered they found the body [TS]

  and and injury Stewart is fired off his [TS]

  gun and your people calling the police [TS]

  and they all just kind of settle down [TS]

  and now because of the darkness and the [TS]

  shifting of light it winds up becoming [TS]

  police lights right yeah right so for [TS]

  chance there's a foreshadow there [TS]

  yeah and it's just so nice my perception [TS]

  was that the Leon lights were in blue [TS]

  until we get to Jimmy Stewart comes back [TS]

  to find a cigarette case and that's when [TS]

  the lights are now read [TS]

  yeah well they're green to red flashing [TS]

  yeah they always say I didn't know [TS]

  something ready-to-wear that might just [TS]

  be my brain see my favorite visual [TS]

  flourishes in that movie are the [TS]

  different things they do with the road [TS]

  there's the scene there yeah well [TS]

  disposed in another part of the rope in [TS]

  the kitchen while the kitchen door is [TS]

  flat agenda enclose yeah he makes a big [TS]

  production of dropping in the drawer and [TS]

  then there's a scene where it's a [TS]

  close-up of the rope because he's tied [TS]

  the books that he's going to give [TS]

  David's father with it which is really [TS]

  sick when you think about it and then uh [TS]

  when Jimmy Stewart returns he the the [TS]

  camera zooms in on his pocket as he [TS]

  pulls the rope slowly out of it 2-2 to [TS]

  reveal that he what a sick mofo really [TS]

  the Rope should have gotten top building [TS]

  in the second let's get the name of the [TS]

  movie with the actual character starring [TS]

  some rope as soon as himself introducing [TS]

  and I one credit you know the one loose [TS]

  end I feel like they really didn't have [TS]

  that friend sorry that no I was gonna [TS]

  say the that was a funny joke not I'm [TS]

  afraid I disagree [TS]

  don't be naughty that's what you're [TS]

  hoping for Phil this is what you bought [TS]

  a promised David hat is is left in the [TS]

  closet which is kind of an amateur yeah [TS]

  it's a perfect Drive shut up and i don't [TS]

  have room for you Leopold and Loeb we [TS]

  thought they did the perfect crime and [TS]

  one of them left his glasses they're all [TS]

  criminals not-so-bright premieres every [TS]

  phase of this crime is so asinine that [TS]

  how anybody even at sociopath could [TS]

  think it was a perfect crime defy his [TS]

  logic eat it I think that's part of its [TS]

  its its elegance in some ways is that it [TS]

  is totally it's it's / the moment right [TS]

  in like it you know even if they [TS]

  premeditate with certain extent it's so [TS]

  ridiculous the idea of like it's so [TS]

  ridiculous it just might work [TS]

  so the thinking is that everybody would [TS]

  think now that's far too stupid for [TS]

  those two intelligent boys to have try [TS]

  well I think it's just no one would ever [TS]

  think that they would do right like it [TS]

  it's so ridiculous so over-the-top how [TS]

  well rather they not even Jimmy Stewart [TS]

  believes that they would do a former [TS]

  classmate of mine who is now in [TS]

  the US Justice Department once said to [TS]

  me thank God criminals are so stupid she [TS]

  is about the about the staging of it i [TS]

  wanted to say that i love that it feels [TS]

  it's got its got the dynamic feeling of [TS]

  the of a stage play with one difference [TS]

  being where the camera goes and that is [TS]

  the that is the power that the director [TS]

  has over you to point you where you [TS]

  should be looking at all times which in [TS]

  my mind actually magnifies the effect of [TS]

  this I I thought that made it a [TS]

  supremely effective because it its it's [TS]

  going to a stage play and always looking [TS]

  exactly where you need to look and I [TS]

  yeah I I i really enjoyed this i thought [TS]

  this was actually spectacularly good [TS]

  I i like the whole thing quite a lot so [TS]

  i get i give it give it a big thumbs up [TS]

  I thought it was just incredibly [TS]

  effective and intense and I like the [TS]

  fact that we were moving around in this [TS]

  in this space it was 88 you know it had [TS]

  a cinematic element with the with the [TS]

  way the cameras moving around but it [TS]

  also felt like it was just riveting [TS]

  theater and it's not an experience I've [TS]

  had in many films so I really appreciate [TS]

  it [TS]

  I just can't get over how it sits it [TS]

  really is like X Games downhill [TS]

  snowboarding where it's just see him I'm [TS]

  yes yes I could just jump this but why [TS]

  not what I just do a backflip while [TS]

  you're doing this like i'm gonna i'm [TS]

  gonna show you how to our depth i am and [TS]

  how absolutely fearless I am that [TS]

  anybody else would absolutely snap their [TS]

  neck and four places if they try to do [TS]

  some of the things that I'm trying to [TS]

  get away with here and yet when he does [TS]

  it you just viewed you don't even notice [TS]

  that the first time particularly and [TS]

  then your nose to the second time and [TS]

  you think oh I just noticed that [TS]

  Oh wasn't that interesting and what [TS]

  flare [TS]

  yeah I'm right with you here Jason I I [TS]

  loved everything about some thought the [TS]

  acting was superb [TS]

  I i loved this sort of gallows humor [TS]

  that popped up [TS]

  oh yeah ik frequently there's a line [TS]

  where Janet says I hope you knock them [TS]

  dead two fellow yeah exactly [TS]

  there's another one where she says I [TS]

  could really strangle you Brandon [TS]

  and you when you're quite a good chicken [TS]

  strangling over the chicken is a chicken [TS]

  strangling his subjects [TS]

  I'm not a chicken strangler and their [TS]

  struggle the chicken that's that's the [TS]

  equivalent of ripping the newspaper [TS]

  right like giving away a little too much [TS]

  here we know what is safety word is I [TS]

  also like the with the introduction of [TS]

  Jimmy Stewart to Nancy when she says did [TS]

  he do me justice his responses do you [TS]

  deserve justice [TS]

  i actually laughed out loud that it was [TS]

  hilarious [TS]

  there's a lot of really nice details in [TS]

  here I like the fact that at the end he [TS]

  leaves two bullets in the gun there's [TS]

  there's 130 yeah Lenny fires three out [TS]

  the window and I thought that was why he [TS]

  keeps to in the chamber in case he needs [TS]

  one for each of the boys I haven't seen [TS]

  this before and that absolutely popped [TS]

  up yeah I ran that back to actually [TS]

  count on with more shots at fired nice [TS]

  everybody left to he's gonna kill both [TS]

  yeah if a truck if they give him trouble [TS]

  that's what he's gonna do and I really [TS]

  like the way that the tables turn when [TS]

  Rupert returns because he's so cocksure [TS]

  throughout the first the party segment [TS]

  and when he comes back and it's he's [TS]

  pretty clear on the fact that the guys [TS]

  got the gun he now just seems all too [TS]

  fallible and he suddenly seems genuinely [TS]

  nervous about what he's gotten himself [TS]

  into and I think that is just that's [TS]

  fantastic [TS]

  the desperation with which he's he goes [TS]

  to he goes to Jimmy Stewart and tries to [TS]

  I've I believe that I can talk him into [TS]

  being an accomplice to because oh my god [TS]

  we are cut from the same cloth we r we r [TS]

  skindred spirits and he will be more [TS]

  than happy to help me cover up this [TS]

  murder invent a pic department actually [TS]

  thought almost up until the very end [TS]

  that he might just turn that was the [TS]

  question right and didn't think I didn't [TS]

  think so but I ok I'd I didn't have the [TS]

  same experiences i think in a modern [TS]

  film i would have thought that it was [TS]

  possible in this with Jimmy Stewart [TS]

  being the character is giving Stewart [TS]

  he's not a killer clown in this one so [TS]

  if there's a turn that I was sort of [TS]

  half wondering what's gonna happen is if [TS]

  if they if they are kind of the same [TS]

  people he would definitely come back not [TS]

  necessarily to bring them to justice but [TS]

  i know that i could inflict a lot of [TS]

  suffering if I just let them quietly try [TS]

  to figure out if I know or find just [TS]

  simply the [TS]

  website just really for my cigarette [TS]

  case and oh and the up until the time [TS]

  when he just opens the window and sticks [TS]

  his hand out there with a gun and fired [TS]

  shots into the air which is not the even [TS]

  if I thought that ok maybe he's going to [TS]

  call people and I would never have [TS]

  figured out that he's gonna do the most [TS]

  painful way possible yeah which is going [TS]

  to be no we're just going to sit out [TS]

  here while I've got the gun into bullets [TS]

  and you're gonna listen to the commotion [TS]

  and are going to listen to police siren [TS]

  start to come and they're just gonna be [TS]

  so we're gonna try to guess where that [TS]

  shot came from [TS]

  yeah it's gonna take at least its mark [TS]

  too because it because if he tries to [TS]

  make for the door there's a chance he [TS]

  could still be overpowered by those two [TS]

  I mean he's got a bum leg [TS]

  there's two of them were younger he's [TS]

  ruined the perfection of their crime at [TS]

  this point because you know you're not [TS]

  you're not getting a truck with a body [TS]

  out yet the department under these [TS]

  circumstances I so I steve and i have [TS]

  professed our approval of this one the [TS]

  the rest of you guys wanna want to jump [TS]

  in here before we wrap it up I kind of [TS]

  find it gimmicky like I spend a lot of [TS]

  the time watching the camera thinking oh [TS]

  they just had to swap that table in when [TS]

  the camera move over there oh here comes [TS]

  the hidden cut like camera work is very [TS]

  fancy i think it may be too fancy and [TS]

  maybe fancy for its own sake for me you [TS]

  know i actually got most of the way [TS]

  through the movie before I remembered [TS]

  that I had read somewhere that it was [TS]

  all done in one continuous shot and so [TS]

  that didn't distract me I could [TS]

  definitely see it doing so and i [TS]

  remember that in advance but it wasn't [TS]

  so gimmicky to me that it was always [TS]

  poking out at me and tell the jacket [TS]

  zoom seen and that was kind of reading i [TS]

  agree with with Monty that it's it's [TS]

  gimmicky but i don't think that attracts [TS]

  necessarily from it like if it's the [TS]

  kind of thing where I feel like you know [TS]

  again like I think and he was saying [TS]

  earlier in other hands it would probably [TS]

  come off a lot worse but since there's [TS]

  chops to sort of back it up here and [TS]

  because the action is so electrifying [TS]

  and that the actor to do such a great [TS]

  job of capturing your attention [TS]

  I don't find it as distracting as it [TS]

  otherwise would have been I mean I've [TS]

  seen rope a number of times now and it [TS]

  still manages that scene you know that [TS]

  Jason was talking about with the [TS]

  housekeeper walking down the hall and [TS]

  then all the way back like never [TS]

  fails to like put a catching my breath [TS]

  just it's so well-executed even having [TS]

  seen this movie several times in knowing [TS]

  exactly what was gonna happen afterwards [TS]

  you still have that moment of like oh [TS]

  dear god she's gonna open it in front of [TS]

  all these people that would be terrible [TS]

  you know and so I think that it's it's [TS]

  agree with Phil's you know casting this [TS]

  as an underrated movie since I know it [TS]

  didn't didn't do very well at the time [TS]

  but it is technically I think there's a [TS]

  lot of stuff going on here and it just [TS]

  shows the breath and range of [TS]

  Hitchcock's talent that he can do a [TS]

  movie like this as well as a movie like [TS]

  you know rear window you could argue is [TS]

  gimmicky I think it's his best movie [TS]

  that's my favorite of his but you know [TS]

  you could certainly argue make an [TS]

  argument for the gimmickry of it but he [TS]

  key in some ways does really well when [TS]

  he has those constraints to work with i [TS]

  think it really brings out some of his [TS]

  creativity [TS]

  yeah I philly you know the reading up on [TS]

  this film after I watched it to find out [TS]

  that it was it seems to have generally [TS]

  not gotten very good reviews and even [TS]

  revisited it you know decades later it [TS]

  didn't really get very good reviews also [TS]

  that Hitchcock said that he thought it [TS]

  was a failed experiment and that it was [TS]

  essentially unseen force York's a decade [TS]

  least favorite movie that he did with [TS]

  Hitchcock he'd done enjoy this movie and [TS]

  so I read all this after having watched [TS]

  it and I thought wow everybody's wrong [TS]

  yeah and maybe it's because it's 2015 [TS]

  now and and it's not 1948 but it from [TS]

  the perspective of somebody watching it [TS]

  for the first time in 2015 [TS]

  like I thought it was kinda terrific so [TS]

  I felt like it was fresh in a way that i [TS]

  have not experienced in awhile i've not [TS]

  seen a film like this it's I mean it's [TS]

  very the the language is very arch like [TS]

  at the Broadway writing at the time and [TS]

  I mean that's the only thing for me is [TS]

  that I can conserve see the the stilted [TS]

  language and that pulls me out of it a [TS]

  little bit but I don't mind because the [TS]

  tension is so good and and the yeah and [TS]

  again it's it's like a really good [TS]

  colombo like that I've seen it maybe [TS]

  eight or nine times the dialogue the [TS]

  dialogue is brackets can really take you [TS]

  out of the movie if you pay too much [TS]

  attention to it which is a weird thing [TS]

  to say and the camera work in the movie [TS]

  can really take you out of it [TS]

  if you're focused on the camera work but [TS]

  i really like the the tension of it i [TS]

  like that it is the very definition of [TS]

  suspense and I really think there's [TS]

  something to be said we have this vision [TS]

  of Jimmy Stewart as this clean-cut [TS]

  all-american guy and in this movie is a [TS]

  complete dick [TS]

  yeah and I i really like movies where [TS]

  Jimmy Stewart plays a dick anatomy after [TS]

  the Thin Man anatomy of a murder at the [TS]

  naked spur at these these are really [TS]

  enjoyable movies which I i would [TS]

  recommend even though he solves the [TS]

  crime I mean what he's really saying is [TS]

  hey I may I may have written about how [TS]

  you should go ahead and kill people [TS]

  without feeling bad but I didn't mean [TS]

  for you to do it i mean it's not it is a [TS]

  new host reaction he has because he's a [TS]

  jerk [TS]

  once and it's that he's realized that [TS]

  this was all a huge mistake if you know [TS]

  this this cause everything in his life [TS]

  into question it is the dark version of [TS]

  the Marshall McLuhan cameo and Annie [TS]

  haha no might work this 1i i thought was [TS]

  aces I really you know I think you hit [TS]

  it out of the park with with these Phil [TS]

  good i might be the best thing that I've [TS]

  seen on old movie club [TS]

  well yeah I i agree i don't have to [TS]

  correct that I think I enjoyed rope more [TS]

  than I've enjoyed any of the selections [TS]

  an old movie club so far like when we [TS]

  were done I turned to my turn to Lauren [TS]

  I was like that was terrific and I don't [TS]

  know usually it's like well that's [TS]

  another rule moving the books [TS]

  well Addison has kiss me deadly but [TS]

  people didn't bring this time I like the [TS]

  fact that it's compact they get it all [TS]

  done in an hour and 20 and we've seen [TS]

  some films that are a little stretched [TS]

  out just what you guys are saying you [TS]

  like row better than singing in the rain [TS]

  or duck soup [TS]

  well that's crazy talk about duck soup i [TS]

  cant yeah I know jack duck soup i just [TS]

  watched all the time and you know I I [TS]

  wouldn't say that is already said that [TS]

  he doesn't like singing I don't like [TS]

  singing because we're watching their [TS]

  excrement our soul should yeah i think i [TS]

  would probably it's that's that's a [TS]

  tough call money I've got to say both [TS]

  all three of those are I think quite [TS]

  great movies I like singing in the rain [TS]

  a lot i think i probably would we watch [TS]

  this [TS]

  first before I rewatching the others [TS]

  sick so I so I've said that a shadow of [TS]

  a doubt is my favorite and and more and [TS]

  said that I think rear window is his [TS]

  favorite Hitchcock movie did [TS]

  does anyone else have a favorite [TS]

  Hitchcock they want to throw out there [TS]

  but I actually like the 39 steps a whole [TS]

  lot of the 39 steps I i really enjoy the [TS]

  movie [TS]

  I we we could discuss that now but i [TS]

  think this podcast with last five hours [TS]

  indeed he started to throw out super fun [TS]

  like North by Northwest but more action [TS]

  yeah and harder to understand yeah I i [TS]

  love North by Northwest just because but [TS]

  I love fun what you love [TS]

  find anything crazy well I've seen all [TS]

  of for Hitchcock movies including these [TS]

  two and i gotta say i'm a psycho guy but [TS]

  that's you know that's just a second [TS]

  house it's charts [TS]

  secondly I think it i think the the [TS]

  great thing about psycho is there or the [TS]

  things i like about it is the is so much [TS]

  of the stuff that doesn't have to do [TS]

  with the everybody boils down to the [TS]

  shower scene or you know the Norman [TS]

  Bates reveal sort of at the end and [TS]

  there is so much more going on in that [TS]

  yes it's a fascinating movie I i just [TS]

  cannot have seen a number of times for [TS]

  film classes and things like that it's [TS]

  just everytime i watch it a secret [TS]

  there's so much stuff going on here that [TS]

  you don't even pay attention to its all [TS]

  these different movies and one and I [TS]

  think some of the best stuff happens [TS]

  with so great even turns up [TS]

  well as I mean if it is essentially a [TS]

  psychotic movie is a movie that has a [TS]

  psychotic break because it starts in one [TS]

  place and go someplace cold never ended [TS]

  well that's not really my father going [TS]

  to see psycho in the theater was one of [TS]

  his like I mean to this day one of his [TS]

  favorite film going experiences because [TS]

  nobody said anything nobody knew what it [TS]

  was about nobody boiled it [TS]

  yeah you get 20 minutes into the movie [TS]

  and suddenly wait a minute you just [TS]

  killed the main character [TS]

  what the hell's going on huh you could [TS]

  argue that's gimmicky to but it like [TS]

  again and different in different hands [TS]

  that might not that might have been a [TS]

  terrible movie but Hitchcock can pull it [TS]

  off [TS]

  I'm gonna go with the understand by the [TS]

  way and say that I think we're window is [TS]

  my favorite peanuts [TS]

  it's not a classy answer but I actually [TS]

  really like Alfred Hitchcock Presents [TS]

  there are not a lot of [TS]

  respected directors that have a theme [TS]

  song that come from their comics / [TS]

  mccobb anthology television show [TS]

  I respect that about him and there are a [TS]

  lot of good episodes that Samsung people [TS]

  still remember to yeah my favorite [TS]

  probably has to be dial M for murder [TS]

  oh because you're my love as I like [TS]

  psycho but the problem with it is that [TS]

  for me I see it once and then I see it [TS]

  twice and there's really I have to I [TS]

  have to be enjoying only like the craft [TS]

  of it there really nothing else I can [TS]

  really save her [TS]

  what I love about dial M for murder is [TS]

  Ray Milland the greatest to me the [TS]

  greatest Hitchcock murderer ever because [TS]

  he is so clever and he's showing so much [TS]

  agility he has what is legitimately a [TS]

  really really good well-thought-out plan [TS]

  and then something throws a monkey [TS]

  wrench in it and instead of like oh my [TS]

  god I got cover this up its wait a [TS]

  minute this could be even better and [TS]

  this really is the classic case of I [TS]

  kind of hope he gets away with it [TS]

  yeah because he's he deserves the win in [TS]

  that sense and the other great thing is [TS]

  that the inspector who is this little [TS]

  running around expect our it's back to [TS]

  talk to them for yall already like [TS]

  Rockets did you stab silly bunny sudden [TS]

  that you already had one key sound but [TS]

  really watching rainbow laughter watch [TS]

  ray milland do that to do that the movie [TS]

  once every month for the rest of my life [TS]

  and never get bored with it i also have [TS]

  thought was lucky enough to see a 3d [TS]

  screening of this game you're speaking [TS]

  of gimmicky yeah okay but what about of [TS]

  you don't have to see it in 3di I was on [TS]

  3d like maybe the tenth time I saw an [TS]

  obvious the shots that they set up for [TS]

  3d USA for the 3d you want all three [TS]

  dimensions happen but it's made maybe [TS]

  that's also the benefit of having had [TS]

  the opportunity to see it does i didn't [TS]

  think was terribly gimmicky whenever [TS]

  when I started like in flat land but [TS]

  when i saw it in the UU basic you have [TS]

  two of two projections in the in the in [TS]

  the lighthouse you're wearing like not [TS]

  red green glasses your we can see things [TS]

  in true color and you have this moment [TS]

  where you know that there's something [TS]

  between you and the thing you want to [TS]

  see at the entire audience leans to the [TS]

  left [TS]

  see around that lamp so i can see the [TS]

  person who just entered that's like okay [TS]

  this guy knew how to deal with 3d yeah [TS]

  so to counteract this positivity 44 [TS]

  listeners out there who wanna like dive [TS]

  into the Hitchcock cool let me steer you [TS]

  away from three movies I don't watch the [TS]

  wrong man don't watch the trouble with [TS]

  harry and for God's sake don't watch the [TS]

  birds who I like the birds with special [TS]

  effects do not hold up better it's got [TS]

  some great scenes that all the birds on [TS]

  the jungle fever still just a great as [TS]

  they doing there anyways there want a [TS]

  steak sink it [TS]

  watch two minutes of the bird it's not [TS]

  that way family plot [TS]

  not so much now to cap I don't like to [TS]

  catch a thief i know a lot of people dad [TS]

  if I something black and something [TS]

  lacking in it for me that it should be [TS]

  better than it is it has my favorite [TS]

  Hitchcock cameo but aside from that [TS]

  though I do watch notorious yeah which [TS]

  is fantastic [TS]

  no I completely forgot about Rebecca a [TS]

  new answers that you guys alright [TS]

  because I like second floor we are seven [TS]

  areas very good yes foreign [TS]

  correspondents very good i just watched [TS]

  that recently I like I want and if you [TS]

  like if you want Farley Granger and rope [TS]

  you love them and strength strangers on [TS]

  a train [TS]

  great movie this is another stupid plan [TS]

  by the way [TS]

  yeah that crisscross thank god they're [TS]

  so stupid has my friend once it's got [TS]

  nothing on putting soda in your in your [TS]

  coffee with the also to poison trick [TS]

  alright well i think has been a [TS]

  successful edition of the old movie club [TS]

  well we can't have that happen again no [TS]

  no pic heard terrible things but nobody [TS]

  should watch for a theme magic its host [TS]

  oh you've plotted the perfect cat [TS]

  interesting [TS]

  nobody look in the trunk did I mention [TS]

  that i've had something to drink I hope [TS]

  nobody looks at the trial already [TS]

  disposed of my recording so i had the [TS]

  table laid out and then they said you [TS]

  can't Sherman on the table and they made [TS]

  me all bring everything over the trunk [TS]

  for no reason reason he added that the [TS]

  podcast get Jackson you got it so that [TS]

  the crime was [TS]

  headed out something like sometimes you [TS]

  gotta kill the podcast you love your [TS]

  plan all along [TS]

  hmm ok I'd like to thank my guests for [TS]

  joining me on another edition of the old [TS]

  movie club money actually thanks for [TS]

  being here thank you I didn't kill [TS]

  anybody [TS]

  no not yet i did Laura thank you thank [TS]

  you and unlike rope I'm glad that this [TS]

  David was here for the whole thing and [TS]

  leave [TS]

  hey yes that's right go back in your [TS]

  trunk now sir [TS]

  yeah well kandi not go thank you very [TS]

  much [TS]

  I admit that I did it but the real [TS]

  criminal is the society that made me Dan [TS]

  Morgan thanks for being here i had [TS]

  equipped and then they went off the [TS]

  rails pleasure to be here now I hope [TS]

  there wasn't another train coming in the [TS]

  other direction when you're just gonna [TS]

  have you guys it was gonna be out the [TS]

  coffee you guys were all drinking I [TS]

  don't know [TS]

  and Steve let's thank you know you [TS]

  standing here I'm going to get myself a [TS]

  bottle of beer and for putting this all [TS]

  together Phil Michaels thank you with [TS]

  hope you've enjoyed our evening of tales [TS]

  of murder and now here's some sponsors [TS]

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  that's the word jimmy stewart i've ever [TS]

  had just be hosted by dr. evil always [TS]

  yeah and for the comfortable I've been [TS]

  your hostess and snow will see you next [TS]

  time [TS]